Ep. 3378: Friday starring Michael Patrick Shiels

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Live across the Great Lake State. You're connected to Michigan's
most engaging and influential radio and television program, Michigan's Big
Show starring Michael Patrick Shields, presented by Blue Cross, Blue
Shield Michigan and Blue Care Network.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm producer and creative director Tony Cuthberts.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Now in the shadow of the Capitol Dome and Lansing.
He's heard from the beaches of Lake Michigan, to the
halls of power and behind closed doors. Here's Michigan's Michael
Patrick Shields quietly is.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
And exactly fifteen seconds we'll be on the air.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
I speaking Good morning, Michael.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
What an honor it is to be on this show.

Speaker 6 (00:43):
You know I used to peek in on your studio
when you're.

Speaker 7 (00:45):
Next to the Grand Travers Pike Company.

Speaker 8 (00:47):
Again, that's a pretty good show.

Speaker 6 (00:49):
This much time to finally get myself on this show.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Michael Patrick Shields is on the air.

Speaker 9 (00:55):
Good morning world, Good morning Michigan. A very pleasant fire
Keeper's Sino Friday, October seventeenth to you. One bite, everyone
knows the rules. Another one as we get your Friday
morning Turkey on the road. Lapacha Sia con tutti boy
it's Michael Patrick Shields with you, and we never let

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the birthday of a beautiful person pass without taking notes.
We're going to do that right up front today on
October seventeenth. And there's a reason. That's because my son,
Harrison Ambrose Shields was born on this date in history,
nineteen ninety six in Pontiac, Michigan. He emerged about the

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size of a football. And yeah, I remember looking at
him under those hot lights, you know that they put
him on. It looks like when you go to a
buffet and they have those hot lights and there's a
little person, a little person laying on the metal there
and crying a little bit but not too much. And
I thought, this is for life, man, this is for life.

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And I think I told him that, the little infant,
little newborn baby. I said, all right, all right here
I am. Don't worry. And it was quite a day
because you know, I was kind of an idiot. I
didn't know what I was doing. And there was this
hospital suite there at Saint Joe's and Pontiac, and you know,
there was like a twenty four to forty eight hour
period of waiting where his mother, Via was. You know,

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you knew it was about to happen, but I don't know.
I always saw the movies where you got to get
in the car, drive seven hundred miles an hour and
hurry up and get there.

Speaker 10 (02:28):
No, this was like forty eight hours of.

Speaker 9 (02:31):
Oh she was home listening to music and there were candles,
and then went to the hospital thinking it was going
to happen, and they had her walking around and maybe
many of you women who've gone through this have experienced this,
walking up and down the aisles trying to sort of
induce the labor. Now go home, false starts, went back home,
came back, and then it was like a like a

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hotel room kind of, and so you know, I put
some music on and I lit some candles, and the
doctor came in and said, who in the hell lit
these candles. I don't know, because it's a.

Speaker 10 (03:01):
Hospital, you can't do that.

Speaker 9 (03:02):
So I blew out all the candles and everything. And
then it became an emergency situation because I guess he
had the umbilical cord around his neck because the heartbeat
started to dip. Then it became all business and boom,
that bed went zooming out of the room like a
formula one car and somebody, one of the nurses or
somebody just threw a packet at me, like and it

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was like a parachute packet. Put this on and follow us,
and it became a Cesarean section situation. And you know,
there was a there was a like a little wall
made of cloth. So I was by Vera's head. I
didn't see, you know, the actual procedure going on until

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they hoisted Harrison from out behind the thing. But you know,
a couple months later, I'm like, you know, I should
probably watch on TV what that actually looked like. And
they had one of those shows where you could watch
a Cesarean section on television. I probably made it about
forty five seconds, like I can't. It's a miracle, damn it.
And so he's a miracle. And so happy birthday the

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Harrison Nebro Shields. He's not the size of a football anymore,
but we've been to a lot of football games and
we played football and all of that kind of thing.
Now he's a lawyer and so on this date in history,
he shares a birthday with Alan Jackson, the country singer.
In fact, his mother and I went to an Alan
Jackson concert one time at the Palace of Auburn Hills,

(04:28):
Eminem the Rapper from Detroit, Slim shady. Yeah, Now that's
some music that Harrison would be more likely to listen to.
He's fifty three today, sharing a birthday with Harrison. Uh
who else? Oh, Pope John Paul the First was born

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on this date in history, nineteen twelve. He's the pope
that lasted only about a month and woke up dead,
as the Irish would say, after a very short reign.
And there's always been some speculation that perhaps he was murdered,
and people wondered. You know, he was from Venice, by
the way, and a battalion. Seemed like a very nice

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fellow who wanted to reform the Vatican Bank. And that's
why if you go and you look some of the speculations,
some of the books that are written about it, as
I recalled, and none went in there to give him
breakfast his tea, and he was asleep. He was dead.
So that gave us the Polish Pope, Pope John Paul
the Second, which was big where I was from in Wyandott, Michigan,
because it's a very Polish community, and I remember just

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the pride and then the historical impact of bringing down
the Berlin Wall and the end of the Soviet Union
and the lack of domination of the Russians in Poland
brought on by Pope John Paul the Second going there
and showing up in Poland Carol boy Tila and the
crowd of maybe a million people showed up chanting we

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want God, and that was impossible for the Russians to ignore.
I think, speaking of Daredevil's Evil Knieval was born on
this date in history. I did meet him once. He's
the guy that used to take his motorcycle to Las
Vegas and even tried to go over the Grand Canyon.
He was born on this date in nineteen thirty eight.
Evil canievl Oh he wrecked more than he succeeded. I

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think he was a madman from out in Montana somewhere
like that. And he came to Detroit one time and
I met him to record an interview at the hotel.
What was at the Saint Regis next to WJR. There
the Fisher Building, and Evil was ten in the morning
in the lobby.

Speaker 8 (06:33):
We met him.

Speaker 9 (06:34):
He looked a wreck man and he said, I.

Speaker 10 (06:37):
Was here last night.

Speaker 9 (06:38):
I went looking for the hookers. Where are all the hookers?
We're in midtown Detroit. I said, you went walking around
here last night at midnight? He said, yeah, I was looking.
I said, you just had your greatest dare of all time.
I mean, never mind the motorcycle jumps. I swear I
said that. Now he's not that way in Detroit anymore.
But at the time it was. Hayworth was born on

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this date in history from pal Joey, and that's like
a rat pack sort of a thing. And of course
she's not the only rat packer born on this date
in history. Well, it was a little bit of history apparently,
because well it was Joey Bishop who died on this date.
He's the last surviving member of the rat Pack. Levi Stubbs,

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the lead singer of the Motown's Four Tops, died on
this date in history. And to speak locally of Detroit,
the first Cadillac was completed in nineteen oh two in Detroit, Michigan.
In nineteen nineteen, the Radio Corporation of America was formed,
Thank you very much. Al Capone was convicted of tax
evasion and went to prison, and the Nobel Peace Prize

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was awarded to Mother Teresa in nineteen seventy nine. You
think Mother Teresa and Donald Trump should get the Nobel Prize.
Pope John Paul, the one that I just mentioned, met
Queen Elizabeth at the Vatican at this time too. In history,
and in two thousand and six, the three hundred millionth

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person was born in the United States. I don't know
how many there are now. Dali Lama got the Congressional
Medal of Honor on this state and his There was
a big day for famous people and honors, wasn't it.
Don Coriel Air Coriel invented passing in the NFL, was
born in this state. In history. Margo Kidder, who was
Lois Lane in the first Superman movie with Christopher Reeve,

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who of course was close with Jane Seymour, who I
see was back on Mckinhawe Island just a week ago.
Welcome back her. I hope she got over to Mission
Point Resort where they made that movie in the theater there.
Of course, there were some exterior from the other hotel,
and Jane Seymour visits that hotel too. But we say
a good pure Michigan morning to you on this Friday.
It's October seventeenth, George Went from Cheers and Norm MacDonald's

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share a Birthday Today too, Happy birthday to my son
Harris and Shields.

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The members of Kiss are paying tribute to the late
Ace Frehley. Frayley was the spaceman of the group and
played on all of their seventies hits. He was also
the only Kiss member to have a Top twenty solo hit,
the nineteen seventy eight hit New York Groove. On Thursday,
Frayley died at the age of seventy four, and fellow
Kiss members Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley say they are devastated.

Speaker 15 (11:27):
By his passing.

Speaker 14 (11:28):
In a statement, they say Ace Frehley was an essential
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Our expanding their residency at the Las Vegas Sphere. After

(11:49):
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People talk about the former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the
congresswoman from California, collecting, and they wondered, you know, how
did she make so much money in the stock market?
But she lost her temper recently, there was a report

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on January sixth, and this was authored by House Republicans
back in twenty twenty two, and they found that the
leadership Democrat leadership at the time, Nancy Pelosi, had concerns
over the optics of having the National Guard present at
the Capitol. This was after the summer of Black Lives

(14:29):
Matter protests, and so somebody asked Nancy Pelosi the other
day on the steps of the Capitol reporter, why didn't
you allow for the National Guard to be there to
protect the Capitol on January sixth? And here's what she said.

Speaker 20 (14:45):
Congress On Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the
new January sixth committee will find you liable for that rider?
Are you at all concerned about the new January sixth
committee finding you wiable for that day? Why did you
refuse the National Guard on January sixth?

Speaker 21 (15:02):
Shut up, I did not refuse the National Guard. The
President didn't send it. Why are you coming here with
Republican talking points as if you're as a serious journal The.

Speaker 22 (15:11):
American people want to know. We still have questions, thank you.

Speaker 9 (15:14):
Hm hm. Stasito, shut up, shut up, she said, Oh boy,
it can't be easy to be constantly battered with questions.
But then again, you're in the spot.

Speaker 23 (15:28):
Now.

Speaker 9 (15:28):
Here's what makes it ironic. There is footage of Nancy
Pelosi repeatedly admitting that she should have done more to
protect the Capitol on January sixth from the rioters. The footage,
ironically was shot on the day of the riot by
Nancy Pelosi's daughter, Alexandra Pelosi for an HBO documentary.

Speaker 10 (15:49):
And here's what she said.

Speaker 24 (15:51):
We have responsibility, Terry. We did not have any accountability
for what was going on there, and we should have.
This is ridiculous. You're gonna ask me in the middle
of the thing, when they've already breached the inaugural stuff, that, uh,
should we call the Capitol police? I mean the National Guard?

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Why weren't the national Guard there to begin with?

Speaker 22 (16:20):
They thought that they had sufficient.

Speaker 24 (16:21):
Well, there was not a question of how they they
don't know. They clearly didn't know. And I take responsibility
for not having them just prepare for more.

Speaker 9 (16:33):
Hmmm. So she's not responsible, shut up, But she told
her daughter and the people in the car there she
was responsible.

Speaker 25 (16:42):
Shut up.

Speaker 9 (16:43):
Yeah. I don't know if you want to go backwards
and hash over all these things and whatever. I also
I'm curious to know about John Bolton having secret documents
at his house and people are saying, oh, you know,
what do you do? What do you messing with that for? Well,
Joe Biden had to documents, Donald Trump had the documents,
and so is it a big deal? Who else has

(17:05):
these documents? Some people are saying it's not against the law.
I never know what to believe. President Trump has green
with the CIA to take action in Venezuela, and he
told reporters that they want to take out the Venezuelan president. Well,
actually they asked him and he didn't answer. And that's
smart because that's not US policy to take out another

(17:27):
world leader, as I understand it. New York City's mayoral
candidate Zoran Mandani says it's too soon to credit President
Trump for the ISRAELIJMA ceasefire. He wants to see lasting
peace first. I think that's fair. H jd Vance downplaying

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a young Republican group. Thousands of offensive messages said they
were edgy jokes of young boys. These texts included racists,
sexist and violent language and praise for Adolf Hitler. Is
that edgy jokes of young boys? He said, kids do
stupid things, and offensive jokes shouldn't ruin anyone's life. I

(18:10):
guess he's right about that, but odd that it's a
young Republican group. I took a trip on a train
in Amtrak service. We'll be returning to Michigan Central Station
in the Corktown neighborhood. It's been decades. They're going to
create a transit station and a transportation hub there, thirty

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acre site for passenger trains and inner city buses.

Speaker 10 (18:35):
That's cool.

Speaker 9 (18:36):
So you can take the train to Chicago, Troy, and
I guess we'll.

Speaker 10 (18:41):
Go on to Toronto. Somehow.

Speaker 9 (18:44):
How does a train get across I wonder through the tunnel.

Speaker 10 (18:49):
To find out.

Speaker 9 (18:49):
Claude Moulinari will join us in the coming days about that.
We're going to talk about rank choice voting. We have
talked about it and we will, so we'll table that
for the moment. Mel Gibson Resurrection of the Christ movie
won't be out for a while, but Jim Caviezel will
not be Jesus anymore. He aged out of the role. Okay,

(19:10):
Jesus was thirty three when he was crucified. Three hundred
horses are going off Mackinaw Island for the winter. I
think there must. There'll be more still because you can
go there at a mission point resort until the end
of the month.

Speaker 10 (19:22):
Gerald R.

Speaker 9 (19:23):
Ford Airport ranked as the best small airport in the
country in the USA today ten Best poll. Congratulations. They
even have a six hundred million dollar expansion going on there.
They're going to relocate the air traffic control tower and
build a new parking garage. Investment in the skies and
the Gordi how Bridge pushed back now to twenty twenty

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six for the opening six billion.

Speaker 10 (19:47):
Dollars across the Detroit River.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
We'll talk to Dennis much more about that in the
coming days as well. It's Michael Patrick Shields through the
AT and T microphones on a fire keeper's casino Friday.

Speaker 26 (20:00):
President Trump is unveiling a plan to make in vitro
fertilization more accessible. Speaking from the Oval Office on Thursday,
Trump said his plan will allow Americans access to the
most popular fertility drugs that reduce prices, saying Americans have
been paying seven hundred times would other countries pay. California
is launching its own affordable insulin next year, making it

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the first state to sell the medication directly to consumers.
Starting in January twenty twenty six, insulin pens will be
available for no more than fifty five dollars for a
pack of five, averaging eleven dollars a pen.

Speaker 27 (20:35):
Not subsidizing lowering the cost, not socializing and spreading the cost,
simply reducing it for all.

Speaker 26 (20:43):
Governor Gavin Newsom says pharmacies in California can buy the
insulin pens for forty five dollars. The initiative is part
of Newsom's cal Rx program, which aims to lower prescription
drug costs. Health update. I'm Sarah Lee Kessler.

Speaker 28 (21:00):
Against Big Show starring Michael Patrick Shields.

Speaker 9 (21:03):
Alex Treman is the CEO and Jerusalem Bureau chief of
the Jewish News Syndicate. Was there too much focus on
who gets the credit, specifically the American President for this
peace deal.

Speaker 29 (21:15):
I think the president deserves a lot of credit. He
did something that the Biden administration refused to do, but
of course the president didn't do it by himself.

Speaker 9 (21:26):
Politics is our family business and medias dot vertus.

Speaker 10 (21:29):
The truth is in the middle.

Speaker 9 (21:30):
Dennis much more on Kyle Mallynn on Wednesday talked about
the bridge and guess in Murr's News. There was a
write up the next day about the Gordy Howe Bridge.
So you can go back and listen to that if
you want to. That is at MI Bigshow dot com,
where all of our interviews are podcasted after they air live,
and you can even listen straight through to the show
if you want to go back in time. Sometimes we

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learned lessons back in time that instruct us for the future. Wow,
he's getting out there now, isn't he. He is a
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Speaker 30 (22:28):
So you're coming off of sort of the summer buying season,
especially in the Midwest. You know, in other sections of
the country like Florida, Arizona, this is a slower time
of the year. But either way, you know, I think
there's so much pent up demand that there's gonna be
a lot of activity. So I anticipate a very strong
purchase season in all areas of the country because so

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many folks have been waiting for a break in interest
rates to make their move. And I can't stress enough
the importance if you're buying a home of trying to
gociate with the seller if you can to pay a
couple of points towards your mortgage, because it can really
drive your interest rate down, creating so much affordability for
your family that can't be overlooked. And a good realtor

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will help you do that.

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And of course at.

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INBC News Radio, I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 31 (24:05):
President Trump was welcoming Ukrainian President Zelensky to the White
House on Friday. It's part of Trump's ongoing efforts to
end the Russia Ukraine War, but White House correspondent John
Dekker says nothing will change unless Russia's leader stops bombing civilians.

Speaker 32 (24:18):
The problem is is that Putin continues to attack civilian
areas of Ukraine with impunity.

Speaker 31 (24:25):
The President said he had a very productive phone call
with Putin on Thursday, adding he thought his relationship with
the Russia leader would have already led to peace by now.
Trump said he will discuss the call with Selenski. The
two leaders may discuss the possibility of Ukraine receiving Tomahawk
missiles as its war with Russia continues. Former National Security
Advisor John Bolton says he is the latest victim of

(24:46):
what he describes as President Trump's ongoing effort to weaponize
the Justice Department after he was indicted on Thursday. Bolton,
who held the National Security Advisor role during Trump's first
term before becoming a vocal critic, now faces federal check branches.
A grand jury indicted him on eight counts of transmitting
and ten counts of unlawfully retaining national security information. Bolton

(25:08):
faces federal accounts that are connected to the Espionage Act.
The University of Southern California and the University of Pennsylvania
have become the latest schools to reject a deal proposed
by the White House.

Speaker 33 (25:19):
Jim Rupe explains the administration wants policy changes in exchange
for federal funding benefits. The deal would have required the
universities to limit international students and otherwise align with the
priorities of the Trump administration. In exchange, the schools would
have received priority for federal funding. Brown University and MIT
have also rejected the deal.

Speaker 34 (25:39):
I'm Jim Rope.

Speaker 31 (25:41):
Three people are dead after a plane crash in Michigan.
Authority say the small jet went down in Clinton County
Thursday evening. All three of those killed were passengers on
board the plane, and it was the Bengals over the
Steelers thirty three to thirty one on Thursday Night Football.
You're listening to the latest from NBC News Radio. An
autonomous vehicle company is getting into the food delivery business.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Matt Matinson explains.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Weimo and door Dash both announced a partnership on Thursday.
The delivery app is set to use the robotaxis for
food and grocery orders. It's currently being tested in the
metro Phoenix area until the end of the year, with
a larger rollout expected in the future. This comes after
door Dash announced its own robot delivery service called dot
late last month that's also currently in its testing phase.

Speaker 31 (26:23):
Apple is making massive investments in renewable power in China
and Europe. On Tuesday, the company said it'll fund six
hundred and fifty megawats of wind and solar power in Europe.
In China, most of Apple's facilities already use green power,
but they're still investing another one hundred and fifty million
dollars into additional renewables and AI giant Anthropic is introducing
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Chech Report. I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 16 (27:11):
Love in your.

Speaker 35 (27:16):
Listen to your lad you see common man without common man?

Speaker 9 (27:29):
Oh, we're talking about conviction. Are you a man or
a woman without conviction? Is it because maybe you're not
sure what to believe anymore? Or you know? Are you
a ticket splitter? Are you somebody who thinks I like
this person for office? Maybe that person might be better?
Do you not follow r indeed, do not pull one
lever for all the Democrats or all the Republicans? How

(27:49):
do you go about that? Do you have conviction? And
is it okay? If you have varied opinions on different things?
People might say you're a flip flopper. That's what they
say if you're running for off, But you know, does
that mean you don't have conviction? Business Leaders for Michigan
is united by an ambitious goal to make Michigan a
top ten state for jobs and talent and a thriving economy.

(28:12):
For instance, I don't think they're at all a partisan group.
They know what's needed for our state is a unified
vision and a collective action that'll draw more talent, that'll
increase investment and create a healthy pipeline of scalable companies.
They want the future built right here in Michigan. However

(28:32):
we get there. Lisa Posthumous Lions is on our radio
stage right now. She's the Kent County Clerk and cares
about Michigan too. Thank you for being here. I appreciate
your presence.

Speaker 36 (28:44):
Good morning, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 9 (28:46):
Do you think right now there is in our state
a unified vision for collective action?

Speaker 36 (28:53):
I think just by nature of a collective there's not
always going to be uniformity, but definitely unity in greater vision.

Speaker 9 (29:07):
So there are people, as I mentioned earlier, who like
certain candidates, they believe in certain candidates, they've taken the
time to just kind of study them, and so they
get shut out sometimes depending on where they live in
the state. We've heard about redistricting. You know, if they
live in a region that's largely Republican, sometimes maybe they
feel their vote doesn't count. And so along comes this

(29:27):
idea of something called ranked choice voting. And I don't
know if that's used only in primaries or in general
elections or that's necessarily how it all applies. But you
get to sort of pick your favorite and your second favorite,
then your third favorite, and you fourth. So it isn't
like maybe a black or white decision this or that

(29:48):
are or deconservati You know that sounds kind of appealing,
does it or doesn't it?

Speaker 16 (29:55):
Well?

Speaker 36 (29:56):
We think any or Michigan County Clerks Association, which has
made it a practice to never really take a position,
take public stances as a group on numerous voter reform measures,
feel this proposal is so problematic that it was important

(30:18):
for our organization to take a public stance and warn
voters about the unintended consequences and what this proposal means,
so that eighty three Michigan County Clerks voted unanimously to
oppose the position. To oppose the proposal, This position transcends geography,

(30:42):
it transcends population of counties, and it transcends party lines.
That should speak volumes.

Speaker 10 (30:51):
Well, it certainly does. But what's what's wrong with that?

Speaker 36 (30:57):
We have? We have great concerns, particularly as it relates
to election administration, about conflicts with our existing constitutional provisions,
ballot length, the complexity and timing of our audits and recounts,
and the lack of transparency. As a result of this

(31:21):
and truly the inevitability of delayed results and the rank
choice voting is going to drastically take a lot longer
to determine a winner. And we've seen when results are delayed,
that creates that creates room for conspiracies, for uncertainty, for misinformation,

(31:48):
and that really erose public trust. So we're very, very
concerned about that.

Speaker 9 (31:54):
Seventeen states have banned the practice. You tell me, sixty
five percent of Michiganders, according to Poland, oppose rank choice voting.
Did I describe accurately what it is?

Speaker 8 (32:05):
Yeah? You you did.

Speaker 36 (32:07):
This proposal would would would apply to both the primary
and the general election. But yeah, you you mentioned Michael
Patrick about picking your first favorite, then your second, then
your third, than your first favorite. A lot of voters
don't have a third or a fourth or even a
second favorite, and it's really about choosing who do you

(32:30):
want to have this job? And so we're also concerned
about We're also concerned about what's called ballot exhaustion. And
that's that's a problem because you know, you either voters
are confused because it takes longer and make it makes
they make errors more errors are are are just the

(32:52):
fact of the matter with ranked choice voting, ballot exhaustion
where where the voter's ballot no longer count because all
of their ranked candidates have been eliminated. That occurs at
a significant rate, and so basically that ballot for that
race is is not counted, their voice isn't isn't counted.
And we again there's just there's a there's a certain

(33:16):
element of our elections where we where we cherish, you know,
making your voice or and having having your vote count.
So that's why we have such serious concerns with this.

Speaker 9 (33:29):
Do you know if there's any state in the nation
that uses ranked choice voting?

Speaker 36 (33:35):
Uh, there are several. There are several states. I know
Alaska uses ranked choice voting. There, Alaska uses ranked choice voting.
And that's one of the states that we've looked at
that has taken incredibly long time, you know, days, uh
potentially weeks to get our to get their ballot results

(33:55):
or their election results back.

Speaker 9 (33:58):
Does rank choice votings one party over another? According to data?

Speaker 37 (34:03):
Uh?

Speaker 36 (34:04):
No, no, I don't. We certainly don't believe so. In
the fact, I mean anecdotally, especially the fact that eighty
three Republican and Democrat county clerks unanimously opposed this proposal.
Should tell you that this isn't about partisan advantage. This
is about This is about making sure every vote counts,

(34:25):
making sure our elections remain straightforward and transparent and accurate,
and that voters get election results in a timely manner
that they deserve.

Speaker 9 (34:35):
So the push to get this done, is it being
done through like a ballot proposal or who's who's advocating it?

Speaker 36 (34:41):
Yeah, this is this is you know, out of state
special interests that are coming in putting forward petitions to
get on the ballot, to place it on the to
place a proposal before the voters in the November twenty
twenty sixth election.

Speaker 9 (34:58):
Do you know what they're telling people when they a
for signatures.

Speaker 36 (35:02):
I actually I don't know what they're saying because I
haven't seen anybody out there. I mean I've not engaged
or talked to anybody, so I really don't know what
the what the shtick is. But I really i've you know,
what we've been seeing in the media, and you know
this is our politics are so polarizing, and we need less,

(35:24):
we need less extreme candidates, and I just have to
put out there that I think this proposal is attempting
to treat a symptom. And what really we need is
for particularly in primaries, we need everybody to go out
and vote. When you're talking about primary voters, generally those

(35:45):
are the those are the most passionate voters on either
end of the political spectrum.

Speaker 9 (35:51):
Yeah, they tend to show up. These are posthumous lions.
Ken County Clerk who ever heard on WTKG, Thank you.
We'll keep in touch.

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Speaker 3 (38:02):
In BC news Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 31 (38:05):
US Senate employees won't be paid until the federal government
shutdown ends. He sent its financial clerk sent out a
letter Thursday stating that the October twentieth paycheck would be
missed unless the shutdown was resolved by.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
The end of yesterday. It wasn't.

Speaker 31 (38:18):
White House porters are Tom Homan denying allegations that he
accepted a bribe.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Jim Roop has a story.

Speaker 33 (38:23):
During a recent News Nation town hall, Homan denied accepting
a fifty thousand dollars bribe from undercover FBI agents in
exchange for contract promises. He says he's never accepted that
sum of money from anybody. He also says he has
no idea how the allegations began spreading, but notes he's
been the target of dozens of quote unquote.

Speaker 40 (38:41):
Hit pieces in recent months. I'm Jim Roop.

Speaker 31 (38:44):
And the Black Phone Too is looking to take number
one at the box office this weekend. The sequel starring
Ethan Hawk as a serial killer called The Grabber, is
looking to make twenty three to twenty nine million dollars
in its debut weekend. Mark Mayfield INBC News.

Speaker 41 (38:57):
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Did I just hear there's a movie out this weekend,
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Speaker 10 (39:29):
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Speaker 10 (40:07):
It was Saul who got all the attention in that series.

Speaker 9 (40:10):
He got his own spin off in fact, and it
was about attorneys for sure.

Speaker 10 (40:15):
I'm curious.

Speaker 9 (40:15):
I'm reading an article here, so I'm going to ask
Mike Nichols, the co founder of the Nichols Law Firm
with his wife Wendy and East Lansing, to pop in here.
I'm not going to say the city, but I'm not
a little article in a local paper says that the
police department in this city will conduct a sobriety and
driver's license checkpoints on October twenty fourth, operational from eight

(40:37):
pm until two am. All traffic will pass through the
checkpoint on this certain road, and motorists will be stopped
and contacted by uniformed officers who will be checking for
alcohol or drug impaired drivers and make sure everybody has
a valid driver's license. Kind Of interesting for them to
put it in the paper. Forewarned is forearmed on that one,

(41:00):
isn't it? Mister Nichols.

Speaker 7 (41:02):
Well, that's the requirement in almost every state that allows
sobriety checkpoints. You have to tell people, and that's why
you came across that. I'm surprised you hadn't seen one
of those before. That's not in Michigan, though, is it.

Speaker 9 (41:17):
Well? I was pulling up on one once and I said,
what's going on up there? And I said I wasn't
drinking or anything. But I'm like, I don't want any
part of that. So I just turned off on a
side street and drove away. Are you allowed to do that?

Speaker 27 (41:30):
Is that?

Speaker 9 (41:30):
Okay? Sure?

Speaker 7 (41:32):
Sobriety checkpoints are also forbidden in the state of Michigan.

Speaker 9 (41:37):
Well, if you are pulled over, we often ask, you know,
what are you allowed to do? What are they allowed
to do? And it's not that we're trying to get
people to get away with things, but it's an effort,
like that newspaper article to forewarn people. And now the
Supreme Court is looking at a case where as I
understand it, the officer may or may not have smelled marijuana.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
Yeah, that's people versus Wilkins. And it was argued in
that Supreme Court special session up at was that big
Rapids High School up in Macosta County.

Speaker 9 (42:11):
They ever heard on WBRN.

Speaker 7 (42:14):
Okay, there you go, also home of Fair State University.
And boy, there's a lot of Fourth Amendment stuff going
on in that particular case. Mister Wilkins and his passenger
not twenty one at the time of this stop. They're
pulled over for a valid reason, which was speeding. You
can stop somebody for speeding, even if you think you're

(42:35):
gonna explore other or investigate other things as an officer.
And the officer smelled marijuana when the window was rolled down,
the driver's side window, and at least that's the officer's claim,
and then from there he starts investigating. And really this
turns on whether or not you can automatically assume or

(43:01):
somehow infer that if you smell marijuana, you can pretty
much assume that it's two point five ounces of marijuana.
And that's important because that's the distinction for somebody under
twenty one between a civil infraction and a misdemeanor crime.
A civil infraction, the officer would not have had the

(43:22):
ability to just get the kids out of the car
and search the car. If he suspects a crime, then
he could. He searches the car, finds the marijuana. Of course,
then he finds a gun. And that's where things got
pretty haywire, and it turned into a serious felony because
neither mister Wilkins nor's passenger or a CPO concealed pistol

(43:45):
license owners.

Speaker 9 (43:48):
I guess does this come down to the police. If
they smell marijuana, they can make you get out of
your car so they can have a look.

Speaker 7 (43:54):
See, there's a case that is just a few months
old right before this, called people versus Armstrong that answers
that question in the negative. In other words, the smell
of marijuana alone is not enough to get you out
of the car.

Speaker 10 (44:11):
Is that true for alcohol too?

Speaker 7 (44:14):
The strong odor of alcohol under a case called people
versus Rizzo Rizzo, that's enough to order somebody out of
the car to continue in owy or drunk driving investigation.

Speaker 9 (44:26):
Boy, they don't like law school from Michael Patrick today. Yeah,
well these might be dumb questions, but it seems sort
of vague. What is strong versus the smell of alcohol?
And by the way, I thought alcohol was odorless.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Yeah, well it is.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
And that's another fair point. There's, you know, the smell
of the flavorings in alcohol that are kind of consistent
that we all kind of know. Like, you know, I
said good night to Morgan last night. She said you
like beer, and I said, I've been drinking beer. I've
been drinking beer and wine, you know, I mean it's
the odor that's consistent with an alcoholic beverage. Alcohol itself

(45:05):
is odorless, odorless.

Speaker 9 (45:08):
Yes, yeah, but.

Speaker 7 (45:10):
You kind of got me off track. I argue that
strong versus just the officer saying I detected the odor
of alcohol. I argue that a lot and a lot
of a lot of the time, the judges just kind
of blow past it.

Speaker 9 (45:23):
Hm hm. And what about speaking of blowing past it?
Can you is there a breath test for for marijuana?

Speaker 7 (45:35):
There is a roadside saliva test that is on the market,
not used in Michigan, at least not yet, but.

Speaker 42 (45:45):
You know, it's detecting.

Speaker 7 (45:47):
The enzyme in your saliva and trying to compare it
with basically a cartridge that's got the library of enzymes
that is consistent with THHC. It's not great, it's not
very specific. I wouldn't really rely on it.

Speaker 9 (46:06):
It's the people versus Freddie Wilkins. Were police allowed to
search a car without a warrant after stopping mister Wilkins
for speeding, and the Supreme Court is going to make
the decision, they would be wise to consult Mike Nichols
and his wife, Wendy, and so would you and he's
lancing on these matters and study up ahead of time,

(46:27):
and don't drink and drive and don't drive high.

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Jamar Chase with a franchise record sixteen catches for one
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Speaker 49 (49:34):
I think this series is going to be wrapped up today.
I'm just gonna throw that out there. And by the way,
they did shift the order of events today. As you
will see, we have two Major League Baseball games today
and you will see the Toronto Blue Jays take on
the Seattle Mariners. That series is tied at two games
at piece. That will be a six to eight pm
first pitch, and then this possibility of a sweep by

(49:56):
the Dodgers against the Brewers eight thirty eight pm.

Speaker 9 (50:00):
There was eight thirty oh because there was a lot
of graping on the radio about the site lines for
the batters and outfielders, because of where the sun is,
because of the strange time they started the game.

Speaker 49 (50:11):
Yeah, I watched the first couple innings of this game
and those shadows were very present, no question about it.
And it makes you think because up there in Seattle
where they're playing those games, they usually keep the roof open,
but they have the possibility to shut it if they want, so.
To put that thing in the evening time or when
the shadows are worse would make sense. I don't know

(50:31):
if there's any There still may be issues at Dodger Stadium,
there is no question about it, but maybe it'll be
a little bit lighter, if you know what I'm saying
on that.

Speaker 9 (50:39):
So it was a weird start time yesterday for sure,
and the outfielders had to shield the sun with their glove,
you know, to watch anyway. It all has to do
with television and money and all the rest of it.

Speaker 10 (50:50):
It seems to me.

Speaker 9 (50:51):
Yeah, and with either way, one thousand dollars if you
want a World Series ticket, if you're willing to buy
them ahead of time.

Speaker 49 (50:56):
Right now, Yeah, no thanks, I'll just watch it. That's
the cheapest seat in the house. Yeah, I'm good with that.
A five thirty eight first pitch local time in Los Angeles,
I imagine will be absolutely fantastic for the fans trying
to get through all of the traffic by the way
as well. Just something to be looking forward to on
that one. That might be a little bit late arriving
crowd maybe the Lions. They do not play this weekend,

(51:17):
just a reminder they will play on Monday Night Football
against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and that will be a
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Speaker 50 (51:43):
Let's keep talking.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
In VC news Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 31 (51:55):
US Senate employees won't be paid until the federal government
shutdown ends. You send its financial clerk center of the
letter Thursday, stating that the October twentieth paycheck would be
missed unless the shutdown was resolved by the.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
End of yesterday. It wasn't.

Speaker 31 (52:08):
White Houseporters are Tom Homan denying allegations that he accepted
a bribe.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Jim Roop has a story.

Speaker 33 (52:13):
During a recent News Nation town hall, Homan denied accepting
a fifty thousand dollars bribe from undercover FBI agents in
exchange for contract promises. He says he's never accepted that
sum of money from anybody. He also says he has
no idea how the allegations began spreading, but notes he's
been the target of dozens of quote unquote hit pieces
in recent months.

Speaker 40 (52:33):
I'm Jim Roop.

Speaker 31 (52:34):
And the Black Phone two is looking to take number
one at the box office this weekend. The sequel starring
Ethan Hawk as a serial killer called The Grabber, is
looking to make twenty three to twenty nine million dollars
in its debut weekend. Mark Mayfield, NBC News Radio.

Speaker 23 (52:48):
A broad range of high pressure keeps much of the
West warm and dry today, with highes running five to
ten degrees above normal from California to Oregon. Inland Valley
see breeze afternoon winds. Breezy conditions may raise fire danger
in interior valleys, while desert areas hit the upper eighties
under clear skies. Across the Rockies and Northern Plains, cooler

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air filters in behind a weak front, bringing partly cloudy
skies and highs in the sixties. The Midwest and Great
Lakes enjoy another pleasant autumn day with mild temperatures and
plenty of sunshine. Farther east, a coastal storm drenches parts
of the mid Atlantic and New England with two to
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per hour. The southeast and Gulf Coast remain humid, with
scattered afternoon thunderstorms and highs in the low to mid eighties.
Alaska endures another round of heavy rain and coastal wind.
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Powers in BC News Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 31 (54:04):
President Trump was welcoming Ukrainian President Selensky to the White
House on Friday. It's part of Trump's ongoing efforts to
end the Russia Ukraine War, but White House correspondent John
Dekker says nothing will change unless Russia's leader stops bombing civilians.

Speaker 32 (54:18):
The problem is is that Putin continues to attack civilian
areas of Ukraine with impunity.

Speaker 31 (54:24):
The President said he had a very productive phone call
with Putin on Thursday, adding he thought his relationship with
the Russia leader would have already led to peace by now.
Trump said he will discuss the call with Selenski. The
two leaders may discuss the possibility of Ukraine receiving Tomahawk
missiles as its war with Russia continues. Former National Security
Advisor John Bolton says he is the latest victim of

(54:46):
what he describes as President Trump's ongoing effort to weaponize
the Justice Department after he was indicted on Thursday. Bolton,
who held the National Security Advisor role during Trump's first
term before becoming a vocal critic now faces federal charges.
A grand jury indicted him on eight counts of transmitting
and ten counts of unlawfully retaining national security information. Bolton

(55:08):
faces federal accounts that are connected to the Espionage Act.
The University of Southern California and the University of Pennsylvania
have become the latest schools to reject a.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Deal proposed by the White House.

Speaker 33 (55:18):
Jim Roup explains the administration wants policy changes in exchange
for federal funding benefits. The deal would have required the
universities to limit international students and otherwise align with the
priorities of the Trump administration. In exchange, the schools would
have received priority for federal funding. Brown University and MIT
have also rejected the deal.

Speaker 40 (55:39):
I'm Jim Rope.

Speaker 31 (55:40):
Three people are dead after a plane crash in Michigan.
Authority say the small jet went down in Clinton County
Thursday evening. All three of those killed were passengers on
board the plane and it was the Bengals over the
Steelers thirty three to thirty one on Thursday Night football.
You're listening to the latest from NBC News Radio.

Speaker 51 (55:57):
Bank of America and the Bank of New York Belen
are being sued for allegedly knowingly providing financial services that
enabled Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking operation. They're being sued by
a woman who said she was abused by the late
sex criminal. The suit was filed Wednesday. She claimed she
was employed on paper by a sham company and told
to open a Bank of America account in which money

(56:19):
was regularly deposited. The Bank of New York is accused
of providing credit to a modeling agency Epstein used to
traffic victims. Home sales are back on the rise in
La County Daniel Martindale with the numbers.

Speaker 52 (56:31):
That is, according to new data from the California Association
of Realtors, home sales in September were up nearly twenty
one percent compared to August and up nearly fourteen percent
year over year. In Orange County, home sales declined by
more than two percent from August to September, but sales
increased by nearly eleven percent compared with September of last year.
In La County, the median home sale price was more

(56:53):
than nine hundred eighty three thousand dollars. In Orange County
was more than one point four million dollars.

Speaker 51 (56:58):
Nesley's planning to slash sixteen thousand jobs over the next
two years. NBC News also announcing some layoffs. Word came
Wednesday that about one hundred and fifty employees were being
let go ahead of NBC's upcoming split from MSNBC. That
represents about two percent of the workforce at NBC News group.
Burger King's Tricker treat buckets are back and can be
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vampire nuggets. And not to be outdone, McDonald's, of course,
is bringing back their Halloween themed boo buckets too. The
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Trickle Treatings more fun with a happy Meal buckets.

Speaker 31 (57:42):
The fast food giant says the specialized happy meals will
be available on October twenty first. The buckets will feature
the faces of a ghost, a pumpkin, and a goblin,
with two editions a cat and a zombie.

Speaker 51 (57:54):
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Speaker 45 (57:58):
Thursday Night football Joe Flaco outdueled Aaron Rodgers threw for
three hundred and forty two yards three touchdowns. Then Evan
McPherson kicked the game winning thirty six yard field goal
with seven seconds remaining. It's the Bengals rally to beat
the Steelers thirty three thirty one. Blacko talks about how
it felt to lead his new team to a thrilling
win in his second game with the Bengals.

Speaker 47 (58:20):
You're having success, and you can look at each other's
eyes and just like you get that feeling, you know,
of bonding with somebody else, and just it's a lot
of fun. It's a lot more fun when that clockets
zero and you've gotten.

Speaker 9 (58:32):
The job done.

Speaker 45 (58:32):
Jamar Chase with a franchise record sixteen catches for one
hundred and sixty one yards and a touchdown in the win.
Baseball Vladimir Guerrero Junior homeward again to help the Blue
Jays crush the Mariners eight two to even the Alcs
at two games apiece. NLCS Dodgers, with a two run
six beat the Brewers three to one. Now went away

(58:53):
from returning to the World Series. That sports, i'm Ronza Moss.

Speaker 23 (58:58):
A broad range of high pressure keeps much of the
West warm and dry today, with highs running five to
ten degrees above normal from California to Oregon. Inland valleys
see breezy afternoon winds. Breezy conditions may raise fire danger
in interior valleys, while desert areas hit the upper eighties
under clear skies. Across the Rockies and Northern Plains, cooler

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skies and highs in the sixties. The Midwest and Great
Lakes enjoy another pleasant autumn day with mild temperatures and
plenty of sunshine. Farther east, a coastal storm drenches parts
of the mid Atlantic and New England with two to
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scattered afternoon thunderstorms and highs in the low to mid eighties.
Alaska endures another round of heavy rain and coastal wind.
That's your national forecast. I'm chrisp.

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Speaker 9 (01:00:55):
We enjoy hearing the voice of tom Izzo. It's like
a kind of, you know, harbinger of a season. And
if we're gonna have to go through winter, we're gonna
go through with tom Izzo. And there are very few
things as enjoyable as in a cold, dark winter night
going into the Breslin Center and having it full of

(01:01:18):
light and color and music and basketball and you see
people you know in the concourse and you settle in
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going into a casino, you know what I mean. And
of course the game ends. It doesn't take too long,
so that's kind of nice. And you go back out
into the night. That seems like a wintertime thing to do. Now,

(01:01:39):
fall autumn is for football, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (01:01:43):
You go to Spartan Stadium.

Speaker 9 (01:01:45):
And you know, or Michigan State, any of the parks,
any of the stadiums, that seems like the thing to do.
Play football on your own front lawn and fall into
a pile of leaves and whatnot. But basketball is here,
It's already here. And tom Azo's voice heard discussing as
always not only just basketball but life.

Speaker 55 (01:02:06):
Keeping a team focused there is a number one task
at hand for everybody. I mean, there's so much noise
out there winning or losing, because there's always other things.
There's the portal, you know, there's financial things. There's always
there's always people lurking around right now, you know. And

(01:02:27):
I say the same thing that I say every year.
The biggest thing I got to do early is keep
the distractions and the dirt bags away from my program.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
And that's not easy to do.

Speaker 55 (01:02:37):
And you can classify who you want to classify as distractions,
and you can classify who you want to classify as
dirt bags, but people that are trying to get in
and dynamite your programs, and we're all going through it.
It's not at Michigan State, it's everywhere, and so it's
a different era. It's a different era. But what I

(01:03:00):
learned last year is I complained about it for a
couple of years, and I don't want to accept it
because I don't think it's good for our players. I
don't think it's good for the student athletes. I don't
think it's good for the students. But I've accepted that.
I got off those committees. I'm going to worry about
my team and Michigan State University. And it worked for

(01:03:24):
a year. You know, we weren't as talented as some
of my teams last year, we were as together. Whether
we can build on that, that's going to be the
task at hand and one that's exciting to me because
the relationships matter to me. And realistically, we haven't lost

(01:03:45):
many guys here. There's a couple of guys we told
should look other places. There's one or two guys that
I always leave. But in the general scheme of things,
in the last four or five years, we have not
had many guys out of the portal here, and that's
not what I'm to do, but I got to do
what I got to do to make sure this program
stays at the level it stays at. So I always

(01:04:07):
want to get it better. But last year was a
hell of a year, you know. We just it shows
what winning does as sometimes and when you win, you
become better than you are, but when you lose, you
sometimes become worse than you really are. And that's the
mental games now that we have to play because of

(01:04:28):
the social media, because of the number of people. I mean,
you guys aren't even as bad anymore. You know, back
when you had all the power because they didn't have
social media. They didn't we had to read those goofy
newspapers that you guys printed in.

Speaker 9 (01:04:43):
It was it was just you guys.

Speaker 55 (01:04:46):
Now anybody can have any say from any spot in
the world. And so there's a lot more on the players,
and for the little they get on a positive side,
I feel sorry for them. They get on a negative side,
and that's why the x's and o's are becoming less.

(01:05:06):
How you handle the Jimmys and Joe's is becoming more
and we owe that to our kids and to our players,
and that's kind of takes up a lot more time,
but it's kind of we're rewarding too when you have
years like you had last year. So I'm going to
still try to build, but I'm going to try to

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maintain what I believe is keys to winning and successful programs.

Speaker 9 (01:05:34):
I think he feels sorry too for Jonathan Smith, because
people are saying the football coach ought to be fired.
And tom Izoe said, you don't win games by yourself.
You win games with the support of the people you're
supposed to be supporting you. And he says, I know
what frustration is. I've been part of it as a fan,
part of it as a coach, and there's no way

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on God's green earth that I'm sitting here. I have
accomplished some of the things we've accomplished with our commune
and our fans and the people who help us win
the games. That's how it works. So Izzo has been
in Smith's shoes. Before his first season, he lost to
Detroit Mercy in Central Michigan and he was five and six.
They started feeling pressure, and yeah, the scrutiny, isn't it

(01:06:21):
interesting distractions and dirtbags coming after his team. I presume
you know, it's different. Now there's gambling and the transfer
portal and the name, image and likeness payments and extended
travel for supposed student athletes now have to fly over

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the country to get it done. It's different than Imagine
how different it is. And imagine how all the people
that he's dealt with over the time he's been there
have changed, the presidents, the athletic directors, etc. It's not
really college sports anymore, it seems to me. And then
there is no presumption that a player is going to

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stay for four years, right, So distractions and dirt bags,
and he didn't even have social media when he started,
and you know, everybody looks at that too much emphasis
placed on it. Most certainly benefits from it financially probably.

(01:07:23):
And then there's basketball. Oh and by the way, education education.
This is just minor leagues. Of course, the NBA only
has so many opportunities. I see Detroit's getting a WNBA
team again, and they're going to put in a big,
multi sixty million dollar facility and everything too. Sports Man

(01:07:47):
Tony Cuthbert is saying he's sounding like an old man
again talking like this.

Speaker 49 (01:07:51):
I tend to agree with you on many things. It's
even changed from when I was a kid, So I
feel you.

Speaker 9 (01:07:57):
It was supposed to be sort of the you know,
professional was professional, and college was to me, you know,
sort of just a charming sport.

Speaker 10 (01:08:05):
I don't know if it's that anymore.

Speaker 34 (01:08:07):
Oh No, it's it's big business. And h what was it?

Speaker 10 (01:08:10):
What it is?

Speaker 49 (01:08:10):
I'll say, dirt bags. I mean there's the stories. I mean,
mind you, all these players now in college sports have agents, this, that,
the other thing. And there's been stories about they're walking
through the handshake line at the end of a game
and somebody in that line from the opposing team, you know,
tells them, hey, we got a spot for you next
year if you want. And then we'll drop a bag
of cash at your feet as well. And there's the transaction.

(01:08:31):
It's not the trade wire, it's right on the court.

Speaker 9 (01:08:34):
And the sign stealing.

Speaker 10 (01:08:36):
Let's not forget oh.

Speaker 9 (01:08:38):
Right now, Paul Long at the Michigan Catholic Conferences saying,
don't forget sign stealing, the.

Speaker 34 (01:08:42):
Theaters and bust.

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The members of Kiss are paying tribute to the late
Ace Frehley. Frayley was the spaceman of the group and
played on all of their seventies hits. He was also
the only Kiss member to have a top twenty solo hit,
the nineteen seventy eight hit New York Groove. On Thursday,
Frayley died at the age of seventy four, and fellow
Kiss members Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley say they are devastated.

Speaker 15 (01:11:27):
By his passing.

Speaker 14 (01:11:28):
In a statement, they say Ace Frehley was an essential
and irreplaceable rock soldier during some of the most formative
foundational chapters of the band and its history, and will
always be a part of the Kiss legacy. No Doubt
are expanding their residency at the Las Vegas Sphere.

Speaker 15 (01:11:49):
After revealing six initial shows.

Speaker 14 (01:11:51):
For May, the group has now expanded their reunion run
with six additional dates due to incredible fan demand. The
new shows take place on May twenty first, twenty third,
twenty fourth, twenty seventh, twenty ninth, and thirtieth.

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The twenty twenty five Daytime Emmy Awards ceremony is today.
It's the fifty second year for the awards, which recognize
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game shows to daytime talk and children's The ceremony is
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Speaker 15 (01:12:25):
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Speaker 9 (01:12:42):
It's not Meet the Press, it's meet MPs. We have
Congressman Tom Barrett, the Republican from Charlotte on our radio stage,
our AT and T line. Lots to talk to him about.
Thank you for the valuable time and welcome to the program.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
Yeah, thank you, good morning, and thank you for having
me on. Michael Patrick appreciative this.

Speaker 9 (01:13:00):
This is a little bit out of left field, but
in bath Township yesterday an aircraft went down and created
a giant plume of smoke in the sky that had
people concerned. It was near the intersection of Clark and
Peacock Roads. All three people aboard this aircraft died and
we don't know too much about it yet except to
say that it descended from an altitude of fourteen thousand

(01:13:24):
feet and crashed within thirty seconds. And as a pilot,
I wonder if you have any I think that's in
your district geographically. Maybe it is, but it isn't. But yeah,
what might have happened to that? It's some sort of
small plane beachcraft? Parker eight hundred.

Speaker 6 (01:13:45):
Yeah, we would, you know, we'll certainly wait for the
AXIT investigation in everything, and there are ACCIT investigators on site.
We're able to verify that they were not furloughed during
the shutdown. The FA was there, I think on the
initial part, and then ultimately the NTSB will do a

(01:14:06):
thorough investigation. But something of that severity from that hive
and altitude so quickly, you know, to me, really does
indicate or imply probably some kind of catastrophic mechanical failure
that would be pretty unlikely to descend from that altitude
so quickly without some kind of mechanical interruption or mechanical

(01:14:27):
failure that would that would necessitate that kind of you know,
spontaneous event to take place, would be my, my, my
best you know hypothesis there.

Speaker 9 (01:14:39):
Thank you very much for the insight. It was took
off from Battle Creek Executive Airport as we understand it,
and will wait for the results. You mentioned the government
shutdown there, and yeah, think wondering you know when well
the rest of us feel any impact from the shutdown,
and one of the things you're concerned about is the troops,
and God bless you for that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
Yes, yeah, absolutely, and you know, I was thankful to
President Trump had the foresight to really move some resources
in order to pay the troops just a couple of
days ago on the fifteenth when their paycheck was due.
We got a lot of young men and women serving
in our military who are really kind of paycheck to paycheck.
I was a young private in the Army before. I

(01:15:22):
felt like I was paying money to be there when
I first started. And then you've got young troops with
families and expenses and other things that have accumulated. And
that was something that was able to bridge the gap temporarily,
but that's really only very short term. The funding that
the President was able to reallocate for that is not
a durable source of funding that will last beyond really

(01:15:45):
this initial pay period that they received in the middle.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
Of the month.

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
And then in addition to that, especially here in Michigan,
we have members of the full time National Guard who
were able to get paid, but the federal technicians who
support their efforts honestly, the ones who wrench on the
helicopters and keep them safe for flight and everything else
so that we can respond to incidents like the one
that tragically took place last night. Are still not getting paid.

(01:16:11):
So this is a real concern and problem that we
have to address. It's easy to get resolved. This is
a bipartisan effort to fund the government. It's had a
majority in the House and the Senate, and we simply
want to see it, you know, carried through to its
full extent the rest of the way and have a
vote in the Senate and get it through the procedural
process to get that done.

Speaker 9 (01:16:31):
Did you happen to hear in Nancy Pelosi respond to
a reporter outside the Capitol. It's been kind of going
viral here it is Congress.

Speaker 20 (01:16:39):
And Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the new
January sixth committee will find you liable for that day?

Speaker 9 (01:16:45):
And right?

Speaker 20 (01:16:46):
Are you at all concerned about the new January sixth
committee finding you wiable for that day? Why did you
refuse the National Guard on January sixth?

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
Shut up?

Speaker 21 (01:16:57):
I did not refuse the national Guard. The President didn't
send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking
points as if you're as a serious journal.

Speaker 22 (01:17:05):
The American people want to know we still have questions.

Speaker 9 (01:17:07):
Thank you, I know you weren't there when they all
can't it went down in Washington, Congressman Barrett, But what
is your reaction to that?

Speaker 6 (01:17:18):
Well, I mean, actually constantly enough. Nancy Pelosi's office is
a couple of doors down from mine, so I usually
tell people who come visit that they ought to stop
by and get their you know, daily stock trading tips
from her on their way through the building. But she
hasn't invited me in for coffee so far, but I

(01:17:38):
wouldn't say we're close, but you know, look it can come.
I will extend some grace here. People can be a
little bit harassing of members when you're you know, moving
through the hallways or whatnot, or moving between events, and
they want to kind of pounce on you about things.
But look, this is what you signed up for, right
and somebody like Nancy Pelosi has been doing this far

(01:18:00):
longer then you or I have been in our professional capacities,
and so you have to be well tempered and understand
that this is part of the part of the process
of being an elected members that you're going to have
people kind of challenge you on your positions, and that's
something to be you know, aware of and expected. So
you know, it was it was an unprofessional outburst by her,

(01:18:22):
but not seeing or knowing the full context of it,
I can't really weigh in beyond that.

Speaker 9 (01:18:27):
I would say, as a member of Congress, you now
have access to secret documents. I know the process from
what I understand. You have to go into a room,
you can't take your phone, you can't take notes, you
have to look at things and leave. John Bolton now
charged with taking documents home a diary sharing it with people,
and he says it's not a crime, and that it's

(01:18:48):
a political, you know, harassment kind of thing. We saw
this with the former president the current president. What do
you make of all this?

Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
Yeah, president have the authority to declassify or or remove
the classification of materials.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
That's really an.

Speaker 6 (01:19:08):
Executive presidential process that has done. And you know, I
learned this had a secret clearance in the Army when
I was nineteen years old and really learned the you
know care in which you have to take with classified material.

Speaker 8 (01:19:22):
For a reason, this.

Speaker 6 (01:19:22):
Isn't like hobby sport that we're like, oh, I get
this secret information and then I'm more important than everybody else.
So therefore I'm going to you know, bring it home
and put it on display at my dinner party or
something like that. These are real things that have a
real consequence to them, and we've had real national security
tragedies result when classified information leaks out, and that's a

(01:19:44):
real thing. I mean, I was able to get a briefing,
as you stated, you know, a classified brief and they're
very thorough about making sure that they are not electronic
devices present there.

Speaker 9 (01:19:54):
Thank you very much for your caution and candor Tom Barrett.

Speaker 31 (01:20:00):
One of this vehicle company, is getting into the food
delivery business.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Matt Matinson explains.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
Weimo and door Dash both announced a partnership on Thursday.
The delivery app is set to use the robotaxis for
food and grocery orders. It's currently being tested in the
metro Phoenix area until the end of the year, with
a larger rollout expected in the future. This comes after
door Dash announced its own robot delivery service called dot
late last month that's also currently in its testing phase.

Speaker 31 (01:20:25):
Apple is making massive investments in renewable power in China
and Europe. On Tuesday, the company said it'll fund six
hundred and fifty megawats of wind and solar power in Europe.
In China, most of Apple's facilities already use green power,
but they're still investing another one hundred and fifty million
dollars into additional renewables and ai Giant. Anthropic is introducing
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Chech Report.

Speaker 28 (01:20:57):
I'm Mark Mayfield, Michigan's Big Show starring Michael Patrick Shields.

Speaker 9 (01:21:03):
Alex Treman is the CEO and Jerusalem Bureau chief of
the Jewish News Syndicate. Was there too much focus on
who gets the credit, specifically the American President for this
peace deal?

Speaker 5 (01:21:15):
I think the.

Speaker 29 (01:21:15):
President deserves a lot of credit. He did something that
the Biden administration refused to do. But of course the
President didn't do it by himself.

Speaker 10 (01:21:24):
Ryan Duffy from Enbridge Energy.

Speaker 9 (01:21:26):
How many tunnel projects are happening in the country right now,
in addition to the Great Lakes Tunnel connecting the Upper
Peninsula to the Lower Peninsula.

Speaker 10 (01:21:34):
And why are there so many?

Speaker 57 (01:21:35):
Tunnels? Are everywhere and most of the time we don't
think too much about them, and the number is growing
now because there are right now at least thirty major
tunnel projects underway in the country, totaling about fifty billion dollars.
So those are being built under cities, you know, through mountains,
underwater used for traffic, drinking water, storm water, so those

(01:21:58):
are needed critical infrastructure. There's actually planned a tunnel from
the Nashville Airport to the downtown area. There's two tunnels
happening right now in Virginia. Around the world, there's big projects.
Norway's planning to build the world's longest subsea tunnel and
it's going to have a highway in it there. So

(01:22:19):
all these tunnel projects are happening, and and our tunnel,
of course, will be twenty feet wide and the pipeline
along one side of the tunnel, and then they'll be
room for other utilities to go inside it, potentially high
speed fiber cable.

Speaker 9 (01:22:35):
Blue Cross has Michigan covered head to toe, inside and out,
ready to help with health and wellness resources for the
body and mind, and you can learn more at BCBSM
dot com. Andy Hutzel, the vice president of corporate Communications
at Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, talks to us
about competition in the drug.

Speaker 42 (01:22:53):
Sector, competition, as we all know, lowers price. The more
competitors that you have selling a product, the more choice
there is in the market, and that choice lowers prices.
Companies compete on price, and that is not what's happening
in the prescription drug space right now for a lot
of drugs that are granted these patent monopolies ten fifteen

(01:23:16):
years or more. And until the government reforms that practice
and allows competition to get to the market faster, we
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innovate biosimilar We intend to introduce more as these high
cost drugs come off of patent in the future.

Speaker 9 (01:23:33):
Do you believe that minors should receive gender affirming care.
We'll talk to doctor Heather Zach about that in just
a couple of minutes. She's a psychologist. It's Michael Patrick Shields.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
In BC News Radio. I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 31 (01:24:05):
President Trump was welcoming Ukrainian President Selenski to the White
House on Friday. It's part of Trump's ongoing efforts to
end the Russia Ukraine War, but Whine House correspondent John
Dekker says nothing will change unless Russia's leader stops bombing civilians.

Speaker 32 (01:24:18):
The problem is is that Putin continues to attack civilian
areas of Ukraine with impunity.

Speaker 31 (01:24:25):
The President said he had a very productive phone call
with Putin on Thursday, adding he thought his relationship with
the Russia leader would have already led to peace by now.
Trump said he will discuss the call with Selenski. The
two leaders may discuss the possibility of Ukraine receiving Tomahawk
missiles as its war with Russia continues. Former National Security
Advisor John Bolton says he is the latest victim of

(01:24:46):
what he describes as President Trump's ongoing effort to weaponize
the Justice Department after he was indicted on Thursday. Bolton,
who held the National Security advisor role during Trump's first
term before becoming a vocal critic, now faces federal charges.
A grand jury indicted him on eight counts of transmitting
and ten counts of unlawfully retaining national security information. Bolton

(01:25:08):
faces federal accounts that are connected to the Espionage Act.
The University of Southern California and the University of Pennsylvania
have become the latest schools to reject a deal proposed
by the White House.

Speaker 33 (01:25:19):
Jim Rupe explains the administration wants policy changes in exchange
for federal funding benefits. The deal would have required the
universities to limit international students and otherwise aligned with the
priorities of the Trump administration. In exchange, the schools would
have received priority for federal funding. Brown University and MIT
have also rejected the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
I'm Jim Rope.

Speaker 31 (01:25:41):
Three people are dead after a plane crash in Michigan.
Authority say the small jet went down in Clinton County
Thursday evening. All three of those killed were passengers on
board the plane, and it was the Bengals over the
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You're listening to the latest from NBC News Radio.

Speaker 26 (01:25:57):
President Trump is unveiling a plan to make in vitro
fertilization more accessible. Speaking from the Oval Office on Thursday,
Trump said his plan will allow Americans access to the
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the first state to sell the medication directly to consumers.
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Not subsidizing lowering the cost, not socializing and spreading the cost,
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Governor Gavin Newsom says pharmacies in California can buy the
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Speaker 9 (01:27:02):
Hello, you're listening to Michael Patrick Shields. A University of
Michigan regent, spoke out Thursday against the university's decision to
end gender affirming care for minors at its hospital system.

(01:27:27):
They had a board meeting and at that board meeting
it was Paul Brown, who is by the way, running
for reelection for regents. He's a Lavonia Democrat, and he
raised the issue after the parent of a transgender child
called the decision cowardly during the public comment portion of
the meeting. They held a meeting in Flint and a

(01:27:49):
Brown says he has a family member who also is
a transgender child and frustrated with the decision. He thinks
that it's embarrassing, a horrible and dangerous precedent to set
that we would capitulate to politics. There are people who
think at that age it's a permanent change, and people

(01:28:11):
will come to regret it. Other people say it's being
driven by bad science. Doctor Heather Zak is a psychologist
in the East Lansing area. I read the story and
I was very curious to hear her thoughts on the
concept of gender changing care for minors. What is your

(01:28:31):
reaction to that?

Speaker 58 (01:28:33):
Good morning? Good morning. Well, I don't want to come
about it from a science perspective or a political perspective,
but I will share that I have had throughout my
years of practice different individuals who have wanted to seek,
I guess support for gender change, be it medically and

(01:28:59):
or hormonally, and it's been an interesting It's been an
interesting to watch because there are a lot of psychologic
dynamics to it, and there's a lot of physiologic dynamics
to it, which is why one of the courses of
actions that I have often recommended as using kind of
a comprehensive team approach. That being said, it is interesting

(01:29:25):
because for my patients, and I can only speak to
my patients. I had a couple of situations where people
in the end were glad they didn't end up making
changes because as they evolved in their brain development and
their homeown development, and this was into their twenties, they
began to have different experiences than they had had when

(01:29:46):
they were youthful, and we're glad to not have made
some permanent changes. So I can only speak to it.
Like I said, from my vantage point that I think
it's a very unique, very talking about and also one
that doesn't necessarily take automatic We ought to handle things

(01:30:07):
one two three always in this particular fashion. And again
my experience, a couple of my experiences have been pretty unique,
I think in that folks ended up really reaffirming some
different dynamics as they grew older, realizing that they were

(01:30:28):
not as comfortable in the skin that they were thinking
they were going to choose.

Speaker 9 (01:30:32):
Is it too simplistic to ad, too simplistic to ask
if someone at that age is capable of making such
a major decision, I mean medically and was surgically.

Speaker 58 (01:30:46):
Well, you know, I had an emergency call last night
as an example, and I we know that our brains
aren't fully developed until between the ages of twenty four
to twenty six. That doesn't mean that people don't have
their own feelings, their own awarenesses, their own thoughts, that
they know their needs and want. We give people the

(01:31:07):
right to vote at eighteen, right, So what we want
to understand is hormonally, our bodies are still going through
growth changes. Neurologically, our bodies are going through growth changes.
And so it's very interesting if you ever talk to
somebody who's it's like almost more anyway twenty six, twenty seven,
twenty eight for people then to say, wow, I see

(01:31:31):
the necessity in allowing ourselves to move through that. And
yet the controversy is that those are also very formative
years and years of a lot of growth within one's
life experience. And if we think we're supposed to wait
until twenty four to twenty six brain hormone development to

(01:31:51):
occur then to be able to have life experience, that
also doesn't work. So there is a fine line in there,
but we want to take that into consideration when we're
making those kind of decisions in the family system.

Speaker 9 (01:32:05):
On another matter, Jennifer Lopez J Low has been interviewed
on a radio show with Howard Stern, and she's been
engaged six times and married four times. Someone you're talking
to has similar statistics, by the way, so I'm not
passing any judgment. But here's how she answered Howard Stern

(01:32:27):
when she asked about that romantic record.

Speaker 43 (01:32:31):
No, no, And do you think you really have experienced
loving someone?

Speaker 15 (01:32:35):
Yes, you have, and when you can't get that love back.

Speaker 45 (01:32:39):
What I learned it's not that I'm not lovable, is
that they're not capable.

Speaker 15 (01:32:44):
They can't love, they don't have it in them.

Speaker 21 (01:32:47):
They need to appreciate the little person inside of them.

Speaker 11 (01:32:49):
They need to giveships.

Speaker 17 (01:32:52):
And they gave me what they had, but they gave
me all of it every time.

Speaker 15 (01:32:56):
But it's much all the rings.

Speaker 46 (01:32:58):
All the things I could ever want.

Speaker 9 (01:33:00):
I'm trying to give me the houses, the rings, the marriage,
all of it.

Speaker 10 (01:33:03):
But they didn't love you.

Speaker 9 (01:33:05):
They didn't and didn't know you, and I didn't love myself.
Doctor Zach, if j Low are on your couch talking
like that, what would you say.

Speaker 58 (01:33:16):
Oh my goodness, that's a big question.

Speaker 30 (01:33:17):
Michael.

Speaker 58 (01:33:19):
Let's just say this. I don't understand it because I
can only hear this one linear side of it. I
think what I would speak to is love is hard, right,
Love is hard. Relationships are hard. We need to know
ourselves enough. We need to love ourselves enough. There needs
to be a lot of support in our lives so
that we are not looking for one person to love us,

(01:33:40):
but we're also knowing how to ask the one person
that we're in the relationship to love us. And can
they do that? Are they willing to try? All that
being said, I wrote down this week, you know, men
and women, the differences men. Men don't think to ask,
men don't think to notice, women don't think to ask.
We are such different humans that it's fascinating how we

(01:34:04):
have all joined together. It takes work both from the
individual perspective and from the from really the partnership perspective.
But what she's identifying is right on in that for her,
she probably also didn't know what she wanted and what
she needed, and she's also evolved over time in her

(01:34:27):
six or marriages six whatever that was, six engagements, six engagements,
she's evolved to understand her own needs and her own wants, which,
similar to the initial topic, is also part of what
we do in life, right, As we evolve, we go
through different awarenesses and come to different understandings that we

(01:34:48):
couldn't have come to earlier only through life experience. So
there isn't always a you know, a right or a
wrong in relationships, but there is a learning curve. I
also think we're in a different time i'me zone at
this point, not literally figuratively fun aving h in that
what we're looking for and what we need and what

(01:35:09):
we want is so different today than what a lot
of the research has been based on. We have a
whole different societal expectation, a whole different bandwidth for what
people care about, what's important to people. We're in a
different time, and I don't think we understand it yet
in terms of love and longevity and the dynamics of

(01:35:32):
what it takes to be in this world that we
live in today's world per relationships, do.

Speaker 10 (01:35:37):
You think should get married?

Speaker 58 (01:35:41):
You know, I don't ever like to answer those kinds
of questions like that, but do I think ideally?

Speaker 8 (01:35:48):
Now?

Speaker 58 (01:35:48):
Go live your life?

Speaker 9 (01:35:50):
See big decisions made at an early age, and in
my case, at a late age.

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Speaker 31 (01:38:05):
US Senate employees won't be paid until the federal government
shutdown ends. He sent its financial clerk sent out of
a letter Thursday stating that the October twentieth paycheck would
be missed unless the shutdown was resolved by.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
The end of yesterday. It wasn't.

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White House porters are Tom Homan denying allegations that he
accepted a bribe.

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Jim Roop has a story.

Speaker 33 (01:38:23):
During a recent News Nation town Hall, Homan denied accepting
a fifty thousand dollars bribe from undercover FBI agents in
exchange four contract promises. He says he's never accepted that
sum of money from anybody. He also says he has
no idea how the allegations began spreading, but notes he's
been the target of dozens of quote unquote hit pieces
in recent months.

Speaker 40 (01:38:43):
I'm Jim Roop.

Speaker 31 (01:38:44):
And the Black Phone Too is looking to take number
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Speaker 18 (01:39:12):
Life is dull.

Speaker 33 (01:39:13):
It's nothing but one big lull and presto, you do
uskull and fine.

Speaker 9 (01:39:20):
That you're really nothing dull about fire Keepers Casino. You
can get your ring a ding ding on there, get
your vegas on there, and if you're lucky, you'll see
a tall, handsome fellow walking up to the money Keeper's
main stage by the name of Jim Wise. Pay attention,
something good's about to happen. He's the vice president of
marketing there and he's on our radio stage, our AT

(01:39:41):
and T line. All right, now, welcome back to the program.

Speaker 8 (01:39:45):
Great to be with you, Great to hear your voice. Hope,
Paul is well in Michigan, Big show Land. And you know,
I'm not walking the dog sometimes when I chat with
you in the morning, and sweet a little dark this morning,
and it makes me think of Halloween is coming. You know,
I might be a bit past the age of, you know,

(01:40:06):
costuming for Halloween, but I think Halloween's coming and we're
ready for it, MPFS, because we have our famous and
you know all about this, our famous costume contest where
we have ten thousand that's correct, ten thousand that'll scare
you dollars in cash and prizes. It's next Friday. Do

(01:40:28):
you still got a week to get ready and put
all your great costume ideas together? And what you need
to do is between five and eight thirty you come
and register in our event center so we know who
you are. We give you a number like you're running
a marathon, and then the door's open for the costume
contest participants. And man, even if you don't want to

(01:40:50):
dress up and you just want to see one of
the great shows of the year. A free show. You
just be on the gaming floor when they start and
do the costume contest, perid and parade all through the casino.
We're not talking about ten or twenty We're talking about
maybe five hundred people in different costumes. It's quite the
spectacle and we're excited for that and that is next

(01:41:13):
Friday night. Sir.

Speaker 9 (01:41:15):
This is the beautiful thing you've done. You've made it
possible for anyone at any age to wear a Halloween costume.
You do not age out of anything at fire Keepers Casino,
and so you know, you too, Jim Wise could put
a costume out if you want. I picture you in
a kind of Oh, I guess a vampire might be
suitable for you. But in the in the fostro is

(01:41:38):
that what the what was his name means? Yeah, that's
what I pictured Jim Wise as kind of But anyway,
put this.

Speaker 8 (01:41:46):
On our budget just like this, No, put it on.

Speaker 9 (01:41:50):
Your bucket list, because you don't have to pay a thing.
You go to fire Keepers, and even if you don't
want to be in a costume, he's right, I got
to I've been there a couple of times for this,
but one of the times I got to judge the
parade of people coming through in the costume contest, and
these people have put there all the creativity and effort.

(01:42:13):
This is not putting a bed sheet over your head
and being a ghost. This is an absolute parade. And
if you and your friends are looking for something to
do next Friday and you can't think of anything, do this.
Go there, whether you put a costume on or not,
because it will bring absolute delight for the entire evening.
People start registering at five o'clock, so go have a bite,

(01:42:36):
something to eat, watch some sports, do a little gaming,
and then throughout the night you'll your faith in humanity
will be restored again because it's people of all ages
getting to be kids again. And not only that, they're
real artists, aren't they, Jim.

Speaker 5 (01:42:53):
They really are.

Speaker 8 (01:42:54):
And people use the entire spectrum of things, from you know, movies,
the TV shows, to famous events to just scary consteps,
the mechanical things, you name it. You need to be
twenty one and older because you're going to be on
the gaming floor, but you can take and older all
the way as far as you want to go and

(01:43:16):
use your creativity wherever you want to go. Don't forget
first place, by the way, two thousand dollars cash and
three thousand dollars in red Hot credits. Second place one
thousand cash and one thousand Red Hot credits, third place
five hundred and five hundred, and there's prizes all the
way up to the top ten spots. So there's reason

(01:43:38):
to come out and do it. There's incentive to get
out here and do this.

Speaker 9 (01:43:43):
If you can't go out there, and I pity you
if you can't, you can get your red Hot rewards online.
I understand. Now, how does that work?

Speaker 8 (01:43:51):
So we put the characters all. First of all, we
do a Facebook live so you can see it live
next Friday night on faceboo book. But you'll also have
a chance to vote for people after the fact. So
maybe you thought maybe you thought number three should have
been number one, and you vote for them. You go
out and vote, and we'll take a voter at random

(01:44:14):
and give them some red Hawk credits as well. So
even just for voting and participating, you can be involved.

Speaker 9 (01:44:21):
Wow, So everybody can be a costume judge that night.

Speaker 8 (01:44:25):
Absolutely positively, yes, And again I think that live show
that we'll do at nine o'clock next week is a
show you don't want to miss. Everybody loves it, our
security staff finds it fun, everybody thinks this is a
great time.

Speaker 9 (01:44:41):
I'm definitely not selling you this, folks. I'm telling you
from my heart. It's magic. And by the way, I
see too, there are some lucky people who are going
to get an early shot at Jefferson Starship tickets.

Speaker 5 (01:44:55):
They are.

Speaker 8 (01:44:55):
I mean, that band has had so many hits, from
Jefferson Airplane to just when they were called Starship alone
and then eventually Jefferson Starship and those tickets for our
Red Hot Rewards members are going on sale and then
the public gets a shot at them starting tomorrow. So
what you're going to have around Christmas, between Christmas and

(01:45:17):
New Year's is people in town and they're going to
want to do things, and this is going to be
a great classic rock show. So you want to head
to our website, get the information and the link, and
you can jump in and get tickets. But again, think
about that, you're going to have people come into town,
or you're going to have days in between Christmas and
New Year's that maybe you're off and you'll want to
go see a great show. Jefferson Starship is the answer

(01:45:41):
to that question. So let's start getting those tickets and
that way you won't get shut out.

Speaker 9 (01:45:46):
Friday, October twenty fourth is the Halloween now, so week
before Halloween, so we just want to make sure you
let all your friends know that's the night to get
together and have some serious laughs and some serious inspiration.
The twenty fourth registration starts at five. You don't need
to register ahead, just show up with your costume or
without a costume. And by the way, if you don't

(01:46:06):
wear a costume and somebody says what's your costume, you
might want to consider what you're wearing these days. Hold
the line Jim Wise walking his dog right now under
the moonlight and saying October twenty fourth in the evening,
it's the world famous Halloween events and costume contest at
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Speaker 9 (01:49:09):
Jefferson Starship coming to fire Keepers Casino between Christmas and
New Year's and you can be too, as tickets will
go on sale starting tomorrow. Jim, why is at Firekeeper's
Casino in Battle Creek on I ninety four, right where
sixty nine crosses in. I thought of you about a
week ago when my son and I went into the

(01:49:30):
casino Venetzia, which you have told me in Venice is
the oldest casino in the world and it's very different
than fire Keepers. You have to pay fifty euro to
get in. First of all, there's a cover charge unless
you book through one of your hotels. However, we sat
down at the blackjack table and I lost the first

(01:49:51):
eight hands in a row.

Speaker 42 (01:49:55):
Ouch is all I can say.

Speaker 8 (01:49:57):
That's my esteemed years in gaming insight for your vast
listening audience is ouch.

Speaker 9 (01:50:07):
So I thought, this can't go on forever. I've got
a hang in there and keep at it.

Speaker 10 (01:50:14):
So by the time we left, I was ahead. Can
you believe that?

Speaker 8 (01:50:18):
Sweet? Which means you didn't overreact and over bet like crazy,
because you never know when that streak is going to
keep rolling and when it's going to stop, So then
you must have been patient, and patience often is rewarded
in life.

Speaker 9 (01:50:35):
I have a money management system and I'm very strict
about the betting and it's a regressive kind of thing,
so yeah, I have a way of doing that. Now.
One thing that did surprise me is I never saw
this happen before, but the way the cards are dealt.
My son had a twenty one that he got through
hitting and then the dealer turned over a blackjack, so

(01:50:56):
he lost with twenty one because of blackjack. Trump's the twenty.

Speaker 8 (01:51:01):
Yes, that is correct. And see what usually happens though,
at least in fire Keepers and in the US, that dealer,
whenever they have a ten valued card is going to
scan first to see if they have an ace underneath
or vice versa, if they have an ace on top,
do they have a ten underneath before they even start

(01:51:21):
doling out cards for that exact reason, so that people
don't get all pumped up that they've nailed a twenty
one only to have a guy turnover blackjack. So yes,
you know, blackjack beats all when you're the dealer, but
usually they're going to check that in that little window
when you see the dealer slide the cards over.

Speaker 9 (01:51:41):
Gaming provides so many cool stories, And your next story
is waiting for you at fire Keepers in Battle Creek,
and I will see you.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
There in VC news Radio. I'm Mark Neefield.

Speaker 31 (01:51:55):
US Senate employees won't be paid until the federal government
shutdown ends, you send its financial clerk center of a
letter Thursday stating that the October twentieth paycheck would be
missed unless the shutdown was resolved by the.

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
End of yesterday. It wasn't.

Speaker 31 (01:52:08):
White House Porters are Tom Homan denying allegations that he
accepted a bribe.

Speaker 3 (01:52:12):
Jim Roop has a story.

Speaker 33 (01:52:13):
During a recent News Nation town hall, Homan denied accepting
a fifty thousand dollars bribe from undercover FBI agents in
exchange for contract promises. He says he's never accepted that
sum of money from anybody. He also says he has
no idea how the allegations began spreading, but notes he's
been the target of dozens of quote unquote.

Speaker 40 (01:52:31):
Hit pieces in recent months. I'm Jim Roop and The.

Speaker 31 (01:52:35):
Black Phone two is looking to take number one at
the box office this weekend. The sequel starring Ethan Hawk
as a serial killer called The Grabber, is looking to
make twenty three to twenty nine million dollars in its
debut weekend. Mark Mayfield, NBC News Radio.

Speaker 23 (01:52:48):
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(01:53:12):
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(01:53:32):
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Alaska endures another round of heavy rain and coastal wind.
That's your national forecast. I'm Chris Powers.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
In BC News Radio.

Speaker 31 (01:54:03):
I'm Mark Mayfield. President Trump was welcoming Ukrainian President Selensky
to the White House on Friday. It's part of Trump's
ongoing efforts to end the Russia Ukraine war, but White
House correspondent John Dekker says nothing will change unless Russia's
leader stops bombing civilians.

Speaker 32 (01:54:18):
The problem is is that Putin continues to attack civilian
areas of Ukraine with impunity.

Speaker 31 (01:54:24):
The President said he had a very productive phone call
with Putin on Thursday, adding he thought his relationship with
the Russia leader would have already led to peace by now.
Trump said he will discuss the call with Selenski. The
two leaders may discuss the possibility of Ukraine receiving Tomahawk
missiles as its war with Russia continues. Former National Security
Advisor John Bolton says he is the latest victim of

(01:54:46):
what he describes as President Trump's ongoing effort to weaponize
the Justice Department after he was indicted on Thursday. Bolton,
who held the National Security advisor role during Trump's first
term before becoming a vocal critic, now faces federal charges.
A grand jury indicted him on eight counts of transmitting
and ten counts of unlawfully retaining national security information. Bolton

(01:55:08):
faces federal accounts that are connected to the Espionage Act.
The University of Southern California and the University of Pennsylvania
have become the latest schools to reject a deal proposed
by the White House.

Speaker 33 (01:55:18):
Jim Roup explains the administration wants policy changes in exchange
for federal funding benefits. The deal would have required the
universities to limit international students and otherwise align with the
priorities of the Trump administration. In exchange, the schools would
have received priority for federal funding. Brown University and MIT
have also rejected the deal.

Speaker 40 (01:55:39):
I'm Jim Rope.

Speaker 31 (01:55:40):
Three people are dead after a plane crash in Michigan.
Authority say the small jet went down in Clinton County
Thursday evening. All three of those killed were passengers on
board the plane, and it was the Bengals over the
Steelers thirty three to thirty one on Thursday Night Football.
You're listening to the latest from NBC News Radio.

Speaker 51 (01:55:57):
Bank of America and the Bank of New York Mellon
are being sued for allegedly knowingly providing financial services that
enabled Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking operation. They're being sued by
a woman who said she was abused by the late
sex criminal The suit was filed Wednesday. She claimed she
was employed on paper by a sham company and told
to open a Bank of America account in which money

(01:56:19):
was regularly deposited. The Bank of New York is accused
of providing credit to a modeling agency Epstein, used to
traffic victims. Home sales are back on the rise in
La County, Daniel Martindale with the numbers.

Speaker 52 (01:56:31):
That is, according to new data from the California Association
of Realtors, home sales in September were up nearly twenty
one percent compared to August and up nearly fourteen percent
year over year. In Orange County, homes sales declined by
more than two percent from August to September, but sales
increased by nearly eleven percent compared with September of last year.
In La County, the median home sale price was more

(01:56:53):
than nine hundred eighty three thousand dollars. In Orange County
was more than one point four million dollars.

Speaker 51 (01:56:58):
Nesley's planning to slash sixteen thousand jobs over the next
two years, NBC News also announcing some layoffs. Word came
Wednesday that about one hundred and fifty employees were being
let go ahead of NBC's upcoming split from MSNBC. That
represents about two percent of the workforce at NBC News Group.
Burger King's tricker treat buckets are back and can be
bought in person or at the drive through for two

(01:57:20):
bucks while supplies last. And for the first time ever,
they're offering a monster menu with mummy mozzarella fries and
vampire nuggets. And not to be outdone, McDonald's, of course,
is bringing back their Halloween themeed.

Speaker 46 (01:57:32):
Boo buckets too.

Speaker 51 (01:57:33):
The spooky scoop from Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 53 (01:57:35):
Trickle Treatings more fun with a happy Leaders buckets.

Speaker 31 (01:57:42):
The fast food giant says the specialized happy meals will
be available on October twenty first e buckets will feature
the faces of a ghost, a pumpkin, and a goblin,
with two editions a cat and a zombie.

Speaker 51 (01:57:54):
Ooh, I'm Monica Nelson with your Consumer and Business News.

Speaker 45 (01:57:58):
Thursday Night football, Joe Lacko outdueled Aaron Rodgers, threw for
three hundred and forty two yards three touchdowns, then Evan
McPherson kicked the game winning thirty six yard field goal
with seven seconds remaining. It's the Bengals rally to beat
the Steelers thirty three thirty one.

Speaker 46 (01:58:14):
Lacko talks about how it felt.

Speaker 45 (01:58:16):
To lead his new team to a thrilling win in
his second game with the Bengals.

Speaker 47 (01:58:20):
You're having success, and you can look at each other's
eyes and just like you get that feeling of bonding
with somebody else, and just it's a lot of fun.
It's a lot more fun when that clockets zero and
you've gotten the job done.

Speaker 45 (01:58:32):
Jamar Chase with a franchise record sixteen catches for one
hundred and sixty one yards and a touchdown in the win.
Baseball Vladimir Guerrero Junior homeward again to help the Blue
Jays crush the Mariners eight to two to even the
Alcs at two games apiece. NLCS Dodgers, with a two
run six beat the Brewers three to one, now went

(01:58:53):
away from returning to the World Series.

Speaker 46 (01:58:55):
That sports, i'm Ronza Moss.

Speaker 23 (01:58:58):
A broad range of high pressure keeps much of the
West warm and dry today, with highs running five to
ten degrees above normal from California to Oregon. Inland valleys
see breezy afternoon winds. Breezy conditions may raise fire danger
in interior valleys, while desert areas hit the upper eighties
under clear skies. Across the Rockies and northern Plains, cooler

(01:59:21):
air filters in behind a weak front, bringing partly cloudy
skies and highs in the sixties. The Midwest and Great
Lakes enjoy another pleasant autumn day with mild temperatures and
plenty of sunshine. Farther east, a coastal storm drenches parts
of the mid Atlantic and New England with two to
five inches of rain and gust topping forty five miles

(01:59:42):
per hour. The southeast and Gulf Coast remain humid, with
scattered afternoon thunderstorms and highs in the low to mid eighties.
Alaska endures another round of heavy rain and coastal wind.
That's your national forecast. I'm Crisp Powers.

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And what is it like out there politically speaking? You know,
it's an interesting concept. And Nate bargates who what did
he host recently the Emmys? I think and kind of bombed.
But anyway, he talked about what if what if, knowing

(02:02:22):
everything he knew now, he could go into the past
and take all that knowledge into the past, what would happen?
And here's his theory, Like if.

Speaker 63 (02:02:36):
I'd going tom tonight and go back to like the twenties,
knowing everything I know right now, I don't think I would.

Speaker 9 (02:02:43):
Make a difference.

Speaker 63 (02:02:47):
I don't think you guys would even hear about it.
I don't think you would. I just don't, like because
I don't have anything to get, you know, Like I
would go back and I would see like some guy
on an old phone, and I'd be like, hey, eventually
they have phones you like carry in your pocket and
they're like yes, Like how do they do it. I'm like,
I mean, I don't know how they do it. Oh,

(02:03:10):
I think it's a satellite. I think a satellite. They're like,
what's the satellite? I should have even said that. Uh,
it's like metal Metal's gonna go pretty high in the air.
I don't know if you guys are doing I don't
even know if I could prove them from the future,
I don't even think I could. I think I would
just get stuck because they would want something like who's

(02:03:31):
the next president?

Speaker 9 (02:03:32):
Oh boy? Uh? I mean think about it. If you
lost your mobile phone right now? Do you even know
anyone's phone number? Do you even know anyone? How would
you call someone? Because it's all in your sort of
brain in there, right, it's in your your address book.
You see call mom, it calls it, what Mom's number?

(02:03:53):
I don't know. It's a thought, and they would think
he's stupid. But he's not stupid. It's just that, you know,
we've become accustomed to the modern convenience. We don't know
how things work. We just know that they are, including
artificial intelligence. That doesn't make us stupid. Although John Cleese

(02:04:15):
from Money Python theorized about stupid.

Speaker 37 (02:04:18):
If you're very very stupid. How can you possibly realize
that you're very, very stupid. You'd have to be relatively
intelligent to realize.

Speaker 9 (02:04:26):
How stupid you are.

Speaker 37 (02:04:27):
There's a wonderful bit of research back I called David
Dunning at Cornell, who's a friend of mine, I'm proud
to say, who's pointed out that in order to know
how good you are at something requires exactly the same
skills as it does to be good at that thing
in the first place, which means it's just every funny
that if you're absolutely no good at something at all,

(02:04:48):
then you lack exactly the skills that you need to
know that you're absolutely no good at it.

Speaker 9 (02:04:56):
Right now, that's some philosophy, there isn't it. Yeah, And
you heard Matthew McConaughey at the beginning of the segment
talking about politics and talking about how we're maybe not
as divided as we think we are and all that
kind of thing. Here's a philosopher for you, the ninety
year old Woody Allen, who has now written a novel,

(02:05:17):
by the way, who made fifty movies in his time
as theorizing with Barry Weiss. In a recent interview to
promote his novel about politics and life.

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We're a failed species and that it matters to a
certain degree who's in charge. But basically, the problems of
the world are not political. The problems are much more spiritual.
And you know the fact that we're tragic.

Speaker 3 (02:05:49):
Doomed to.

Speaker 25 (02:05:51):
Existence and an empty, meaningless existence. There's a big problem.
And that's the problem.

Speaker 37 (02:05:57):
You know.

Speaker 25 (02:05:57):
So you get Republicans in, you get democrats, and so
this guy's rotten and the next guy is better, and
you know, and this goes on. But in the end,
for thousands of years, meanwhile, we're still killing each other
here and killing each other there, and and don't trust
each other and spying on each other. I mean, it's

(02:06:19):
you know, they don't they don't really make progress because
they're they try and make political progress, but spiritual progress,
you know, existential progress and philosophical progress. They don't they
don't make and and that's really unless people are All

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those movements, whether it's Christianity or Marxism or or you know,
liberalism or democracy, they're all contingent upon people being fundamentally decent.

Speaker 9 (02:06:58):
Are you decent? Am I decent? Can we depend on
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(02:13:38):
please to be here, and please to bring David Hall,
the founder and CEO of All Financial back to the
radio stage right here. And you know, we all have dreams,
and some people dream of a house, and of course
even in America, politically speaking, we once had an element
called Save the Dream Act where people could save their
home or get some government help to get a home.

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Is it a good time to buy a home or
a better time to sell a home?

Speaker 10 (02:14:06):
David Hall? How about the answer?

Speaker 30 (02:14:09):
Well, and tell you what. We've seen a shift in
the market. We've talked about this over time, and I
think it's really important for people to realize we have
more inventory housing houses for sale as what we term
inventory in our business, than we've had in years right now,
so the power of the negotiation has shifted back a

(02:14:34):
little bit towards the buyer. So as we know over
the last few years home would come out in the market,
there's way more buyers than their worst sellers and it
was very tough to get that home. That is shifting.
We expect that to continue to shift to a more
balanced market where buyers are going to have more choices.
And in the great state of Michigan, as we head

(02:14:56):
into what I think is the best time of year
for somebody to I a home November December, January, February, why
there's less competition and people that are selling their homes
are more serious about selling their homes because everybody lists
in the spring. You've got your home listed in the November, December,
January February time frame. You're serious about selling and buyers

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are going to have the power shifted back towards them,
which is great news for folks that are listening they're
thinking about buying a home.

Speaker 10 (02:15:25):
Sore.

Speaker 9 (02:15:26):
Is there such a thing as a motivated seller.

Speaker 30 (02:15:30):
I'll tell you what, there hasn't been over the last
few years because they haven't had to be as motivated
because they could just take the highest and best offer
that they would get. But yes, the motivated seller, they
need to get out of that home. They're expanding their family,
maybe that they just the neighborhood doesn't work for them anymore,

(02:15:52):
their kids want to go to a new school. Those
folks are obviously going to be looking to opportunistically get
out as quickly as they can, and so a buyer
that comes in and positions their offer correctly is going
to end up getting more value right now than they've
gotten in years. So as a real estate agent, which
we team up with a lot of great real estate agents,

(02:16:15):
looking for motivated sellers is key for the buyer to
be able to get into that home, because what's been
the number one frustration over the last three and a
half years for buyers. I'm making offers on all these
houses and I'm not getting one. That is so frustrating,
and so finding a real estate agent that finds the
motivated sellers really critical.

Speaker 9 (02:16:37):
So everybody knows I have fuzzy math. And when I
worked with Hall Financial, you made it very, very simple.
You answered questions in the crystal clear fashion. And if
you don't want to talk on the phone, you can
do it via text, you can do it via email.
But when we say that the thirty year fixed rates
are now down to six point twenty six percent, what

(02:16:57):
does that mean to a monthly payment for instance? What
does that mean at a level we can understand well.

Speaker 30 (02:17:04):
And it's a great question. And buy and large on
your average mortgage size in the state of Michigan, which
is right around three hundred thousand payments over the last
two months, that dropped by over one hundred dollars a
month on the average interest rate. So we had interest
rates up around seven. We're getting closer to six right now.
And so the opportunity for folks to both buy and

(02:17:27):
or refinance because rates have come down has been really great.
Not to mention, thirteen days from now, the Fed, with
one hundred percent certainty is going to lower rates that's
been baked into these rates moving down, and we'll see
what the comments are in thirteen days, But a lot
of folks are anticipating that we continue to see a

(02:17:47):
nice market for sellers and for folks refinancing so that
those payments continue to go down. And there is a
lot of refinancing activity, just as you did.

Speaker 9 (02:17:57):
MPs answering at a time like this too that you're
you're up until maybe now your hands might have been
a bit tied on something like that given the interest rate.

Speaker 30 (02:18:07):
True, there's no question about it, and we've seen a
lot more activity recently. And we really pride ourselves at
Hall Financial on the five star service that we give
to each client. So what you're gonna find is that
in nine business days are less on average, you're going
to go from applying to closing, which folks consider incredibly
fast because the industry averages forty three days on a transaction.

(02:18:31):
So we've really mastered the process in terms of delivering
great client service and we're really proud of that.

Speaker 9 (02:18:37):
What kind of credit score. Do you need to even call.

Speaker 30 (02:18:41):
Well, you don't need anything more than five eighty to
get in the door, but certainly seven sixty year higher
is going to get you the best terms. So make
sure that when you're gonna think about buying a home,
the first thing you do before you go out shopping
check your credit score. See if there's anything you can
do to get that score up so that you're making
sure that you get the very best terms on your mortgage.

(02:19:03):
But again, folks are purchasing and refinancing with scores at
five to eighty or.

Speaker 10 (02:19:08):
Above eight six y six.

Speaker 9 (02:19:10):
Call Hall is the number to call, or call Hall
First dot Com to begin online. Just in thirty seconds,
walk us through the journey from hearing this interview to
either buying a host or refinancing with all financial.

Speaker 30 (02:19:23):
Will they call in and one of our outstanding folks
on the phone are going to take them through all
their options, no pressure whatsoever, and you're going to have
the opportunity to then lock into a very low rate
today if you want to, and certainly find out how
much is your home worth if you're refinancing, which is
incredibly important when you're going through that process. So give

(02:19:46):
us a call today, more than happy to help you
and walk you through it, no pressure whatsoever.

Speaker 9 (02:19:52):
A Michigan based familyman, father, entrepreneur and advocate for you
whether you're buying, selling a refinancial.

Speaker 31 (02:20:00):
An autonomous vehicle company is getting into the food delivery business.
Matt Mattinson explains Weimo and door Dash both announced a
partnership on Thursday. The delivery app is set to use
the robotaxis for food and grocery orders. It's currently being
tested in the Metro Phoenix area until the end of
the year, with a larger rollout expected in the future.
This comes after door Dash announced its own robot delivery

(02:20:21):
service called dot late last month that's also currently in
its testing phase. Apple is making massive investments in renewable
power in China and Europe. On Tuesday, the company said
it'll fund six hundred and fifty megawatts of wind and
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I'm Markneyfield, Michigan's Big Show, starring Michael Patrick.

Speaker 9 (02:21:02):
Shields Steve Ford, the son of President Gerald Ford.

Speaker 65 (02:21:05):
I would see my dad on a daily basis, be
on the floor of the House of Representatives battling with Democrats.
On the other side of his best friend was Tip O'Neil,
and they would argue and finally hammer out a compromise,
and then Tip O'Neil would be at our house for dinner.
So that's how civics was supposed to be carried out.

Speaker 10 (02:21:25):
Just one other bit of civics.

Speaker 9 (02:21:27):
When you're traveling internationally as an American, please remember that
you're sort of an ambassador. And I as I was
transferring through Charles de Gaull Airport in Paris, there were
two guys in line with their girlfriends and they were
using the F word and the S word, and I thought, wow,
maybe you could just sort of be a little bit
dignified at that moment. Yeah, yeah, that star spangled woo ha.

(02:21:53):
And then the other I was in one of the
convenience stores in the airport there, and this woman American
woman starts calling her daughter over or whoever she was
with his sister, I don't know who she was, says,
you know.

Speaker 10 (02:22:05):
Like marine, marine, get over here.

Speaker 9 (02:22:08):
And they were looking at sandwiches that were in the
refrigerator and wraps, and she said, I think this means
chicken and cheese, and then she says, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think I'm getting the hang of this French s h.

Speaker 10 (02:22:21):
I t.

Speaker 9 (02:22:24):
Like this French stuff. This is their language. You're in France.
I'm getting the hang of this French stuff. I just
want to crawl into the freezers, like get away from
these people's fists.

Speaker 34 (02:22:40):
Excuse me with them this.

Speaker 9 (02:22:44):
I wouldn't want this French stuff. To put it nicely.
Oh dear, it's Michael Patrick Shields. Yeah, real proud to
be an American at that moment, an America.

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Hey.

Speaker 9 (02:23:03):
By the way, was it jd Vance who said that
they should have Lee green would be the halftime show
at the Super Bowl and not bad Bunny.

Speaker 49 (02:23:11):
I think he did say that, and I'm pretty sure
Lee Greenwood agreed to do it, at least play this song.

Speaker 34 (02:23:15):
I don't know if you can do a twenty minute set.

Speaker 9 (02:23:19):
I know. I'll due respect to Lee Greenwood and he
sang at the Lanton Country Club one time about ten
years ago or more, but I think people would really
be going for the popcorn and the bathroom at halftime
he were there. I think they'll do all right with
bad Bunny and the world won't end. It's Michael Patrick
shields with you. Jimmy Fallon on the Tonight Show says
he's going to keep his head down and avoid getting

(02:23:41):
overly political. We laugh at both sides equally, so we
salute him for that.

Speaker 31 (02:24:02):
In BC News Radio, I'm Mark Mayfield. President Trump was
welcoming Ukrainian President Selensky.

Speaker 3 (02:24:07):
To the White House on Friday.

Speaker 31 (02:24:09):
It's part of Trump's ongoing efforts to end the Russia
Ukraine War, but White House correspondent John Dekker says nothing
will change unless Russia's leader stops bombing civilians.

Speaker 32 (02:24:18):
The problem is is that Putin continues to attack civilian
areas of Ukraine with impunity.

Speaker 31 (02:24:25):
The President said he had a very productive phone call
with Putin on Thursday, adding he thought his relationship with
the Russia leader would have already led to peace by now.
Trump said he will discuss the call with Selenski. The
two leaders may discuss the possibility of Ukraine receiving Tomahawk
missiles as its war with Russia continues. Former National Security
Advisor John Bolton says he is the latest victim of

(02:24:46):
what he describes as President Trump's ongoing effort to weaponize
the Justice Department after he was indicted on Thursday. Bolton,
who held the National Security Advisor role during Trump's first
term before becoming a vocal critic, now faces federal chrie branches.
A grand jury indicted him on eight counts of transmitting
and ten counts of unlawfully retaining national security information. Bolton

(02:25:08):
faces federal accounts that are connected to the Espionage Act.
The University of Southern California and the University of Pennsylvania
have become the latest schools to reject a deal proposed
by the White House.

Speaker 33 (02:25:19):
Jim Roup explains the administration wants policy changes in exchange
for federal funding benefits. The deal would have required the
universities to limit international students and otherwise align with the
priorities of the Trump administration. In exchange, the schools would
have received priority for federal funding. Brown University and MIT
have also rejected the deal.

Speaker 40 (02:25:39):
I'm Jim Rope.

Speaker 31 (02:25:41):
Three people are dead after a plane crash in Michigan.
Authority say the small jet went down in Clinton County
Thursday evening. All three of those killed were passengers on
board the plane and it was the Bengals over the
Steelers thirty three to thirty one on Thursday Night Football.
You're listening to the latest from NBC News Radio.

Speaker 26 (02:25:58):
President Trump is unveiling a play and to make in
vitro fertilization more accessible. Speaking from the Oval Office on Thursday,
Trump said his plan will allow Americans access to the
most popular fertility drugs that reduce prices, saying Americans have
been paying seven hundred times would other countries pay. California
is launching its own affordable insulin next year, making it

(02:26:20):
the first state to sell the medication directly to consumers.
Starting in January twenty twenty six, insulin pens will be
available for no more than fifty five dollars for a
pack of five, averaging eleven dollars a pen.

Speaker 27 (02:26:34):
Not subsidizing lowering the cost, not socializing and spreading the cost,
simply reducing it For all.

Speaker 26 (02:26:42):
Governor Gavin Newsom says pharmacies in California can buy the
insulin pens for forty five dollars. The initiative is part
of Newsom's cal RX program, which aims to lower prescription
drug costs. Health Update. I'm Sarah Lee Kessler.

Speaker 30 (02:27:09):
Do you love in your time?

Speaker 11 (02:27:15):
Listen to your back?

Speaker 35 (02:27:17):
You see commonly without common man?

Speaker 9 (02:27:28):
Oh, we're talking about conviction? Are you a man or
a woman without conviction? Is it because maybe you're not
sure what to believe anymore? Or you know? Are you
a ticket splitter? You somebody who thinks I like this
person for office? Maybe that person might be better? Do
you not follow r indeed, do not pull one lever
for all the Democrats or all the Republicans? How do

(02:27:48):
you go about that? Do you have conviction?

Speaker 10 (02:27:52):
And is it okay? If you have varied.

Speaker 9 (02:27:53):
Opinions on different things? People might say you're a flip flopper.
That's what they say if you're running for office. But
does that mean you don't have conviction? Business Leaders for
Michigan is united by an ambitious goal to make Michigan
a top ten state for jobs and talent and a
thriving economy. For instance, I don't think they're at all
a partisan group. They know what's needed for our state

(02:28:16):
is a unified vision and a collective action that'll draw
more talent, that'll increase investment and create a healthy pipeline
of scalable companies. They want the future built right here
in Michigan. However we get there. Lisa Posthumous Lions is
on our radio stage right now. She's the Kent County

(02:28:37):
Clerk and cares about Michigan too. Thank you for being here.
I appreciate your presence.

Speaker 36 (02:28:42):
Good morning, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 9 (02:28:45):
Do you think right now there is in our state
a unified vision for collective action.

Speaker 36 (02:28:52):
I think just by nature of a collective there's not
always going to be, but definitely unity in greater vision.

Speaker 9 (02:29:05):
So there are people, as I mentioned earlier, who like
certain candidates, They believe in certain candidates, they've taken the
time just kind of study them, and so they get
shut out sometimes depending on where they live in the state.
We've heard about redistricting. You know, if they live in
a region that's largely Republican, sometimes maybe they feel their
vote doesn't count. And so along comes this idea of

(02:29:27):
something called ranked choice voting, and I don't know if
that's used only in primaries or in general elections or
that's necessarily how it all applies. But you get to
sort of pick your favorite, and your second favorite, then
your third favorite, and you fourth. So it isn't like
maybe a black or white decision this or that are

(02:29:47):
or deconserva. You know, is that that sounds kind of appealing?
Does it? Or doesn't it?

Speaker 24 (02:29:54):
Well?

Speaker 36 (02:29:55):
We think our county or our Michigan County Clerks Association,
which has made it a practice to never really take
a position, take public stances as a group on numerous
voter reform measures, feel this proposal is so problematic that

(02:30:16):
it was important for our organization to take a public
stance and warn voters about the unintended consequences and what
this proposal means. So that eighty three Michigan County Clerks
voted unanimously to oppose the position. To oppose the proposal,

(02:30:38):
This position transcends geography, it transcends population of counties, and
it transcends party lines. That should speak volumes.

Speaker 10 (02:30:50):
Well, it certainly does.

Speaker 9 (02:30:52):
But what's what's wrong with that?

Speaker 36 (02:30:56):
We have we have great concerns, particularly that relates to
election administration about conflicts with our existing constitutional provisions, ballot length,
the complexity and timing of our audits and recounts, and
the lack of transparency as a result of this, and

(02:31:21):
truly the inevitability of delayed results, and the rank choice
voting is going to drastically take a lot longer to
determine a winner. And we've seen when results are delayed,
that creates that creates room for conspiracies, for uncertainty, for misinformation,

(02:31:47):
and that really erose public trust. So we're very, very
concerned about that.

Speaker 9 (02:31:53):
Seventeen states have banned the practice. You tell me, sixty
five percent of Michiganders, according to polling, oppose rank choice voting.
Did I describe accurately what it is?

Speaker 8 (02:32:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 36 (02:32:05):
You you did. This proposal would would would apply to
both the primary and the general election. But yeah, you
you mentioned Michael Patrick about taking your first favorite, then
your second, than your third, than your first favorite. A
lot of voters don't have a third or a fourth

(02:32:25):
or even a second favorite, and and it's really about
choosing who do you want to have this job? And
so we're also concerned about We're also concerned about what's
called ballot exhaustion. And that's that's a problem because you know,
you either voters are confused because it takes longer and

(02:32:46):
make it makes they make errors more errors are are
are just the fact of the matter with ranked choice voting.
Ballot exhaustion where where the voters ballot no longer count
because all of their ranked candidates have been eliminated. That
occurs at a significant rate, and so basically that ballot

(02:33:07):
for that race is is not counted, Their voice isn't
isn't counted. And we again there's just there's a there's
a certain element of our elections where we where we cherish,
you know, making your voice or and having having your
vote count. So that's why we have such serious concerns
with this.

Speaker 9 (02:33:28):
Do you know if there's any state in the nation
that uses ranked choice voting?

Speaker 36 (02:33:34):
Uh, there are several. There are several states. I know
Alaska uses ranked choice voting. There Alaska uses ranked choice voting.
And that's one of the states that we've looked at
that has taken an incredibly long time, you know, days,
uh potentially weeks to get our to get their ballot
results or their election results back.

Speaker 9 (02:33:57):
Does rank choice voting favor one party over another according
to data.

Speaker 36 (02:34:03):
No, no, I don't. We certainly don't believe so. In
the fact, I mean anecdotally. Especially the fact that eighty
three Republican and Democrat county clerks unanimously opposed this proposal
should tell you that this isn't about partisan advantage. This
is about This is about making sure every vote counts,

(02:34:24):
making sure our elections remain straightforward and transparent and accurate,
and that voters get election results in a timely manner
that they deserve.

Speaker 9 (02:34:34):
So the push to get this done, is it being
done through like a ballot proposal or who's who's advocating it?

Speaker 36 (02:34:40):
Yeah, this is this is you know, out of state
special interests that are coming in putting forward petitions to
get on the ballot, to place it on the to
place the proposal before the voters in the November twenty
twenty sixth election.

Speaker 9 (02:34:57):
Do you know what they're telling people when they ask
for signatures.

Speaker 36 (02:35:00):
Yeah, I actually I don't know what they're saying because
I haven't seen anybody out there. I mean, I'm not
engaged or talked to anybody, So I really don't know
what the what the shtick is. But I really i've
you know what we've been seeing in the media, and
you know this is our politics are so polarizing, and

(02:35:22):
we need less, we need less extreme candidates and and
I just have to put out there that I think
this proposal is attempting to treat a symptom. And what
really we need is for particularly in primaries, we need
everybody to go out and vote. When you're talking about

(02:35:42):
primary voters, generally those are the those are the most
passionate voters on either end of the political spectrum.

Speaker 9 (02:35:50):
Yeah, they tend to show up. Lisa Posthumous lions Ken
County Clerk where we're heard on WTKG. Thank you, We'll
keep in touch. Have you ever I wondered why health
insurance costs seem to keep going up. I was doing
some research online and I stumbled upon some surprising information
on Blue Cross, Blue Shield of Michigan's websitemibluedaily dot com

(02:36:11):
slash affordability. I was surprised to learn that the cost
Blue Cross pays for prescription drugs rose by a staggering
fifteen percent last year. Fifteen percent. That's five times higher
than inflation. It's no wonder healthcare costs or a concern
for so many of us. That's why Blue Cross Blue
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us better understand the factors driving up healthcare costs and

(02:36:34):
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Speaker 10 (02:36:36):
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Speaker 9 (02:36:37):
Because Blue Cross knows that healthcare is personal, it needs
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Speaker 10 (02:36:49):
You'll be glad you did.

Speaker 9 (02:36:50):
It's eye opening information that can help everyone better understand
the complexities of the healthcare system and its impact on
your health insurance costs. Michael Patrick Shields here. As you
all know, I have fuzzy math, and I'm at Dusty
Cellar for my October six for sixty six dollars wine club.
And there's a surprise. It's seven for sixty six dollars

(02:37:12):
Matt Rhodes.

Speaker 66 (02:37:13):
As a thank you to all our Loyer Wine Club
members and anyone who'd like to join, we're offering a
seventh bonus bottle with the club packs.

Speaker 9 (02:37:20):
Do I get to choose the seventh bottle.

Speaker 66 (02:37:22):
We'll have a number of options for you to choose,
from being red white or a sparkling wine.

Speaker 9 (02:37:26):
I'm in for that. The club is still the same,
no cost to join, no commitments, and discounts on all
the beer and wine purchases.

Speaker 66 (02:37:34):
That's right, all the same benefits, just as you mentioned.

Speaker 9 (02:37:36):
As long as I'm here, I think I'm going to
get a gift card for a client. How can those
be used at Dusty's Matt.

Speaker 66 (02:37:42):
Nice thing the water gift cards, they can redeemed here
in the cellar for any retail purchase and also with
the tap room your local neighborhood pub.

Speaker 9 (02:37:49):
Seven for sixty six in October. For the wine club,
it's Dusty Cellar on Grand River and Okamus online too
at Dustysellar dot com. Cheers Michael Patrick.

Speaker 3 (02:38:03):
In BC News radio. I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 31 (02:38:06):
US Senate employees won't be paid until the federal government
shutdown ends. He sent its financial clerk sent out of
a letter Thursday stating that the October twentieth paycheck would
be missed unless the shutdown.

Speaker 3 (02:38:16):
Was resolved by the end of yesterday. It wasn't.

Speaker 31 (02:38:18):
White House Porters are Tom Homan denying allegations that he
accepted a bribe.

Speaker 3 (02:38:22):
Jim Roop has a story.

Speaker 33 (02:38:23):
During a recent news Nation town Hall. Homan denied accepting
a fifty thousand dollars bribe from undercover FBI agents in
exchange for contract promises. He says he's never accepted that
sum of money from anybody. He also says he has
no idea how the allegations began spreading, but notes he's
been the target of dozens of quote unquote.

Speaker 40 (02:38:42):
Hit pieces in recent months. I'm Jim Roop.

Speaker 31 (02:38:45):
And the Black Phone Too is looking to take number
one at the box office this weekend. The sequel starring
Ethan Hawk as a serial killer called The Grabber, is
looking to make twenty three to twenty nine million dollars
in its debut weekend. Mark Mayfield INBC News Radio.

Speaker 17 (02:39:08):
It could be a spoon full of diamonds. It could
be a spoon, just a little spoon of princessler, muscle women.

Speaker 16 (02:39:25):
Spot.

Speaker 19 (02:39:28):
And me and that spoony.

Speaker 18 (02:39:37):
Mean sipple, that's spoon, that's.

Speaker 16 (02:39:47):
Spoon and spoon stone.

Speaker 9 (02:39:51):
Spoonful of diamonds, or lots of money in the stock markets,
it's Michael Patrick shields with you. How about lots of
money in the lotto. The Mega Million's jack is six
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Admire why would you pay more? It was a spoonful
of money. People talk about the former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi,
the congresswoman from California, collecting, and they wondered, you know,
how did she make so much money in the stock market?
But she lost her temper recently. There was a report

(02:40:38):
on January sixth, and this was authored by House Republicans
back in twenty twenty two, and they found that the
leadership Democrat leadership at the time, Nancy Pelosi, had concerns
over the optics of having the National Guard present at
the Capitol. This was after the summer of Black Lives

(02:40:58):
Matter protests, and so somebody asked Nancy Pelosi the other
day on the steps of the Capitol reporter, why didn't
you allow for the National Guard to be there to
protect the capitol on January sixth, And here's what she said.

Speaker 20 (02:41:14):
Congress on Pelosi, Are you at all concerned that the
new January sixth committee will find you liable for that?

Speaker 16 (02:41:20):
Guy?

Speaker 20 (02:41:20):
I'm writing him, Are you at all concerned about the
new January sixth committee.

Speaker 22 (02:41:24):
Finding you liable for that day?

Speaker 20 (02:41:26):
Why did you refuse the National Guard on January sixth?

Speaker 25 (02:41:31):
Shut up?

Speaker 21 (02:41:32):
I did not refuse the national Guard. The President didn't
send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking
points as if you're as a serious journal The.

Speaker 22 (02:41:40):
American people want to know. We still have questions, thank you?

Speaker 9 (02:41:44):
Hm hmo, shut up, shut up? She said, Oh boy,
it can't be easy to be constantly battered with questions.
But then again you're in the spot. Now. Here's what
makes it ironic. There is footage of Nancy Pelosi repeatedly
admitting that she should have done more to protect the

(02:42:06):
Capitol on January sixth from the rioters. The footage, ironically,
was shot on the day of the riot by Nancy
Pelosi's daughter, Alexandra Pelosi for an HBO documentary.

Speaker 10 (02:42:19):
And here's what she said.

Speaker 24 (02:42:20):
We had responsibility, Terry. We did not have any accountability
for what was going on there, and we should have.
This is ridiculous. You're gonna ask me in the middle
of the thing, when they've already breached the inaugural stuff,
that should we call the Capitol police, I mean the

(02:42:43):
National Guard? Why weren't the national Guard there to begin with?
They thought that they had sufficient Now there was not
a question of how they don't know. They clearly didn't know.
And I take responsibility for not having the just prepare
for for hmmm.

Speaker 9 (02:43:03):
So she's not responsible, shut up, But she told her
daughter and the people in the car there she was responsible.

Speaker 25 (02:43:11):
Shut up.

Speaker 9 (02:43:13):
Yeah, I don't know if you want to go backwards
and hash over all these things and whatever. I also
I'm curious to know about John Bolton having secret documents
at his house and people are saying, oh, you know,
what do you do? What do you have messing with that?
For Well, Joe Biden had the documents, Donald Trump had
the documents, and so.

Speaker 10 (02:43:33):
Is it a big deal?

Speaker 9 (02:43:34):
Who else has these documents? Some people are saying it's
not against the law. I never know what to believe.
President Trump has green with the CIA to take action
in Venezuela, and he told reporters that they want to
take out the Venezuelan president. Well, actually they asked him,
and he didn't answer. And that's smart because that's not

(02:43:55):
US policy to take out another world leader, as I
understand it. New York City's mayoral candidate Zoran Mandani says
it's too soon to credit President Trump for the ISRAELIJMA ceasefire.
He wants to see lasting peace first. I think that's fair.

(02:44:16):
Jd Vance downplaying a young Republican group thousands of offensive messages,
said they were edgy jokes of young boys. These texts
included racists, sexist and violent language and praise for Adolf Hitler.
Is that edgi jokes of young boys? He said, kids
do stupid things, and offensive jokes shouldn't ruin anyone's life.

(02:44:39):
I guess he's right about that, but odd that it's
a young Republican group. I took a trip on a
train in Amtrak service. We'll be returning to Michigan Central
Station in the Corktown neighborhood. It's been decades. They're going
to create a transit station and a transportation hub there,

(02:45:00):
thirty acre site for passenger trains and inner city buses.

Speaker 10 (02:45:05):
That's cool, so you can take.

Speaker 9 (02:45:06):
The train to Chicago, Troy, and I guess we'll.

Speaker 10 (02:45:10):
Go on to Toronto.

Speaker 9 (02:45:12):
Somehow, how does a train get across? I wonder through
the tunnel.

Speaker 10 (02:45:18):
To find out.

Speaker 9 (02:45:19):
Claude Moulinari will join us in the coming days about that.
We're gonna talk about ranked choice voting. We have talked
about it and we will so we'll table that for
the moment. Mel Gibson Resurrection of the Christ movie won't
be out for a while, but Jim Caviezel will not
be Jesus anymore. He aged out of the role. Okay,

(02:45:39):
Jesus was thirty three when he was crucified. Three hundred
horses are going off Mackinaw Island for the winter. I
think there must There'll be more still because you can
go there at a mission point resort until the end
of the month.

Speaker 10 (02:45:52):
Gerald R.

Speaker 9 (02:45:52):
Ford Airport ranked as the best small airport in the
country in the USA today ten Best pole Gratulations. They
even have a six hundred million dollar expansion going on there.
They're going to relocate the air traffic control tower and
build a new parking garage. Investment in the skies and
the Gordi how Bridge pushed back now to twenty twenty

(02:46:14):
six for the opening six billion.

Speaker 10 (02:46:16):
Dollars across the Detroit River.

Speaker 9 (02:46:18):
We'll talk to Dennis much more about that in the
coming days as well. It's Michael Patrick Shields through the
AT and T Microphones on a fire keeper's casino Friday.

Speaker 39 (02:46:29):
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to win. When we do better by our kids, invest
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App Thursday Night Football, Joe Flacco outdueled Aaron Rodgers, threw
for three hundred and forty two yards three touchdowns, then
Evan McPherson kick the game winning thirty six yard field
goal with seven seconds remaining. It's the Bengals rally to
beat the Stealers thirty three thirty one. Flacco talks about
how it felt to lead his new team to a
thrilling win in his second game with the Bengals.

Speaker 47 (02:47:51):
You're having success, and you can look at each other's
eyes and just like you get that feeling of bonding
with somebody else, and just it's a lot of fun.
It's a lot more fun when that clock at zero
and you've gotten the job done.

Speaker 45 (02:48:03):
Jamar Chase with a franchise record sixteen catches for one
hundred and sixty one yards and a touchdown in the win.
Baseball Vladimir Guerrero Junior homeward again to help the Blue
Jays crush the Mariners eight to two to even the
Alcs at two games apiece. NLCS Dodgers with a two
run six beat the Brewers three to one. Now went

(02:48:24):
away from returning to the World Series. That's sports. I'm
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If I'm not mistaken, Tony Cuthbert, the Dodgers had trouble
with the Brewers earlier in the season, not in the postseason.
It's a different kind of ballgame, it seems to me.
And now for that sweep possible game today, the minimum

(02:49:23):
price to get in and sit way up high is
two hundred dollars, and tomorrow it's the same. In case
there is the need for another game tomorrow.

Speaker 49 (02:49:34):
I think this series is going to be wrapped up today.
I'm just gonna throw that out there. And by the way,
they did shift the order of events today. As you
will see, we have two Major League Baseball games today
and you will see the Toronto Blue Jays take on
the Seattle Mariners. That series is tied at two games
at piece. That will be a six to eight pm
first pitch, and then this possibility of a sweep by

(02:49:55):
the Dodgers against the Brewers. Eight thirty eight pm.

Speaker 9 (02:50:00):
Was eight thirty oh, because there was a lot of
graping on the radio about the site lines for the
batters and outfielders, because of where the sun is, because
of the strange time they started the game.

Speaker 49 (02:50:11):
Yeah, I watched the first couple innings of this game
and those shadows were very present, no question about it.
And it makes you think because up there in Seattle
where they're playing those games, they usually keep the roof open,
but they have the possibility to shut it if they want,
so to put that thing in the evening time or
when the shadows are worse would make sense. I don't
know if there's any There still may be issues at

(02:50:34):
Dodger Stadium. There is no question about it, but maybe
it'll be a little bit lighter, if you know what
I'm saying on that.

Speaker 9 (02:50:39):
So it was a weird start time yesterday for sure,
and the outfielders had to shield the sun with their glove,
you know, to watch anyway. It all has to do
with television and money and all the rest of it,
it seems to me. Yeah, and with by the way,
one thousand dollars if you want a World Series ticket,
if you're willing to buy them ahead of time right now.

Speaker 34 (02:50:56):
Yeah, no thanks, I'll just watch it.

Speaker 10 (02:50:57):
That's the cheapest seat in the house.

Speaker 34 (02:51:00):
I'm good with that.

Speaker 49 (02:51:00):
A five thirty eight first pitch local time in Los Angeles,
I imagine will be absolutely fantastic for the fans trying
to get through all of the traffic, by the way
as well. Just something to be looking forward to on
that one. That might be a little bit late arriving crowd.
Maybe the Lions they do not play this weekend, just
a reminder they will play on Monday Night Football against
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and that will be a seven

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o'clock total leather which is very rare on Monday night football.

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But it's perfect if you ask me.

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Last night on Thursday Night football, Bengals over the Steelers
and that is brought to you by Dean Transportation.

Speaker 9 (02:51:32):
The Bengals beat the Steelers. Yep.

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That good.

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My name's Michael Patrick Shields.

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Let's keep talking the.

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Book, the book back, and

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