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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
Does our state have a unified vision for collective action
that draws talent and increases investment and creates a healthy
pipeline of scalable companies. Do we have the innovation? Do
we have the R and D? Do we have the
ability to make Michigan a top ten state for jobs

(01:20):
and economic growth? Business Leaders for Michigan says that's the
pathway to do it. You can learn more at Business
Leaders from Michigan dot com. They want Michigan to be
a top ten state for jobs and talent and have
a thriving economy. And to that point, Sam Singh, the
state Senator, the Democrat from East Lansing, is on our
radio stage right now. Thank you for being here. It's

(01:43):
good to hear your voice again.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, thank you for having me on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I am reading this morning that Winnie Brinks, the Senator
from Grand Rapids where we're heard on WTKG, says that
it's been more than a month since she spoke to
the House Speaker Matt Hall, and he, I guess politely said,
I don't want to contradict her, but we talk all
the time. What do you make of that?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Again, I don't know their schedule or their calendar and
how they communicate. I just know that there hasn't been
serious negotiations on the state budget, and that's very concerning
to me. We have a state law that requires a
state budget to be done by July first. Our Republican
colleagues in the House only sent over five budgets to

(02:29):
us by July first. They haven't done a Department of
Human Services, they haven't done a state police budget, they
haven't done the judiciary budget. There's fifteen other budgets they
haven't done, and we're getting very close to the October
first fiscal year, and if we don't get those budgets done,
the government's going to shut down.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So the average person listening says, you're all adults how
come you can't figure it out?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, I think that's the question you really have to
ask the Speaker of the House. You know, he's the
new equation I've been in elected office. This is going
to be my ninth budget. Every budget was done on
time when I was under when I was a legislator
under Republican Governor Rick Snyder, or the two budgets I've
done under Governor Whitmer. So to me, if the Speaker

(03:17):
is serious he wants to do it, he's got to
pass his budgets, or he's got to set targets for
each of those departments and come to the table. You know,
they weren't in session this week, for example, So it's
hard to negotiate when you're not here. And so my
hope is over the next week or two they'll get serious,
get these other budgets, at least the framework done, so

(03:38):
we can actually be in true negotiation.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
We often hear Senator saying a lot about road funding
when it comes to this budget. What's the truth about
cats and dogs when it comes to the ideas for
road funding? Since you mentioned Governor Whitmer.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, listen, I think there's you know, been good discussions
around road funding. I'm very supportive of finding a good
compromise for road funding. You know, we had obviously a
lot of federal dollars come in. The governor had a
bonding program. Both of those programs are coming to a close,
and so we need to continue to put resources in,

(04:17):
especially at the local and county level, for roads, and
so I know that Senate Democrats are ready to negotiate that.
I'm very comfortable finding more dollars and resources to go
to roads because that's what our local communities are asking for.
But that's part of the reason why we have to
be at the table to negotiate. You can negotiate the
whole budget along with roads and economic development, and we

(04:40):
can get that all done by October first, but the
Speaker has to come back to Lansing and come back
to the table.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Senator Nesbitt was with us yesterday. He's running for governor Republican,
and he was besieging the Senate to come up with
a way to get that relief money to the people
in northern Michigan who will impact by the ice storm
one hundred million dollars as I understand it, dozen counties.
No movement on that yesterday is what I'm reading. Do
you know anything about why?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, I think we're trying again. This is all part
of the budget process. We have these federal dollars. We
can do a supplemental. But there was a supplemental that
was introduced earlier in the year that would bring federal
dollars to different resources. This is one piece and that
was not passed by the House. So again, for us

(05:32):
to be able to work those dollars in resources, they're
asking them to be an agreement that we're going to
do a supplemental and do a budget. We are very
comfortable getting that money out. We want to get that
money out, but again everyone's got to be at the
table so those resources can be voted on and then
moved out into an appropriate fashion. What happens next, well,

(05:55):
I'm very you know, I'm always an optimistic person. So
even though right now I think we're in a you know,
very precarious situation, I still believe we have enough time
between now and October first to get the budget done,
to get those emergency resources out to northern Michigan, to
get a roads deal done, and so you know, my
hope is that you know, the speaker and the Republicans

(06:17):
are back in session next week, that they start putting
targets together, even if they don't do their own budgets
that they haven't done yet, and start negotiating. I think
we can come to a compromise over the next two
three weeks, then get all those bills done, and then
we can get the budget finally put to bed. There's
enough time, but the Speaker has to commit to that timeline.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I know that you were the mayor of East Lancing.
Of course, have you been following in all that situation
with East Lansing being a sanctuary city?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, obviously you know following that. You know, in
the end, the city council and the mayor of the
city make decisions, behalf of the residence, and you know,
I'm sure that they're having conversations about that issue.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Do you know who you would like to be the
next governor?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Well, you know, I having conversations with you know, a
number of the candidates on the Democratic side. Obviously as
a Democrat, you know, I'm proud of the work that
we've been able to accomplish over the last two years
and want to see that type of work continue. And
so we'll continue to have those conversations. You know, we're
still a year out from a primary type of situation

(07:34):
and then a you know, a year and a few
months before a general election, So I'll continue to have
those conversations with all of the candidates.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Does the current governor have any role or responsibility in
the fact that there is no budget yet and there
might not be won by October first, Well.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I think everyone is trying to get a budget done,
you know. I know that I've had a number of
conversations with the governor directly then with her team over
the last few months, and I know that they are
trying hard to make sure that everyone stays at the
table and continues to you know, bring ideas to the
negotiation table. But again, we've had now over a month

(08:16):
where we haven't had negotiations. I'm not at that table,
but I like everyone to come back start talking about
these budgets, especially the ones that haven't been done, because
there's a lot of implications. At the same time, the
federal government, you know, past the they call it the
big beautiful Bill. I call it a big bad bill.
But there's you know, close to a billion dollars plus

(08:37):
of impact in the negative to us. We're seeing Medicaid
cuts to you know, our hospitals, our health centers, our
number of our citizens are going to lose healthcare, and
so we have to address all those issues. And so
my hope is that over the next few weeks will
get very serious.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
About that guy who loves to travel wants everyone to
come back to work and lancing. Sam Singh, Senator, thanks,
thank you.

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Speaker 6 (09:56):
Knowing your limits as always.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
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