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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Alarm clock starts ringing, and you could advance me saying
and it's me baby, would you have a wake up call?
How you like?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's Michael Patrick Shields, produced by Tony Cuppert and the Orchestra.
You still thank God crazy if you're standing me to
thank you love me even always dreamed about living in
your radio radio stations across the state of Michigan and
(00:41):
worldwide at MI Big show dot com. And you heard
me say, sort of very quickly with Attorney Mike Nichols
just a minute ago that at one of two University
of Michigan scholars from China smuggled biological material into the
United States and pleaded no contests. These things actually happen,
and if you think they don't, we have evidence now
(01:02):
in the court to show that it does. Four Chinese
nationals with ties to the University of Michigan were recently
charged with federal crimes. They smuggled round worms and other
bio materials into the country on three separate occasions. Now,
what are they up to? What are they doing? It's
(01:23):
kind of creepy, isn't it. And it's very unusual and
it's a criminal case right now at the University of Michigan.
We are with you politics as our family business. Five
current members of university boards, by the way, who were
nominated to their positions by Michigan Democrats, have decided to
endorse Mike Duggan, the independent for governor. That's got a
(01:47):
sting Democrats who put them in those positions presuming that
they would follow the marching orders. Well they're not. And
I find that very curious too. It's Michael Patrick Shields
with you. You can rise up and look and grow
and the greater epicenter of metro Detroit at Oakland University.
Thank you pushed beyond the four walls and think beyond.
(02:08):
Get creative opportunities for yourself and learn more at oaklandt Edu.
Speaking of education, there are I guess three finalists now
for the top education job in the state, and one
of them includes an out of state finalist for the
first time in two decades from Virginia State. The former
superintendent there is one of the three finalists. The other
(02:31):
is from Harrison Community Schools and Dearborn Public Schools if
you're following that sort of thing. Oh and speaking of
strange and unusual, California, man's been sentenced to eight years
in prison. You know what he did. He shipped weapons
and ammunition to North Korea and he said they were
to be used on a surprise attack on South Korea.
(02:53):
This is a forty two year old who came to
the US from China. Guess how on a student visa.
It happens around us right under our noses. Politics is
our family business and madis dot virtus. The truth is
in the middle. Shane Hernandez is with us right now,
president of the Michigan Forward Network and he was a
(03:14):
state legislator and ran for lieutenant governor. Thank you for
being here and welcome back to the program.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Thanks for having me back. It's been a little while.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
If you were in the legislature and House Bill forty
seven oh seven came in front of you, how would
you vote and what does it do?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I'd be voting yes for it to ban rank choice
voting in the state of Michigan. You know, you were
just talking about strange and weird, and that's what rank
choice voting is. I don't know, It's a solution in
search of a problem. Right now, one person gets one
vote for who they think is best for the job.
I'm not sure what's wrong with that and why anybody
(03:53):
wants to fix that. But rank choice voting essentially is
a system where there's four candidates. You would rank those
four candidates one through four, and if none of them
get a fifty percent of the first place votes, then
the last person gets dropped off, and whoever was ranked
number two on those ballots, then those votes become ones
(04:15):
and you go on and on with that until enough
person gets fifty percent of the one votes. So I
know that sounds confusing, because it is confusing, and it's
going to cause all kinds of problems with our election system.
If rank choice voting gets put in place in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And that process is all done in the tabulation, it's
not like you have to go back and vote again,
is it? Or is it?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You don't have to go back and vote again. But
one of the serious problems with it is if you're
somebody who just you know your candidate and you just
vote for the first place person and you don't vote
for anybody else, you could have your entire bollut invalidated
if it goes to a second round. If your person
was the last, came in last, and you didn't vote
(05:01):
for anybody else, then your entire ballot could just be
thrown out and it doesn't even get counted because you
didn't rank a second person. So causes all kinds of problems.
You know, I've seen data that says black voters are
two and a half times less likely to rank votes.
So a lot of the proponents of ranke choice voting
(05:21):
now the people saying voter ID is a burden, violates
civil rights. And then they turn around and they want
a system where the votes of a black person that
are two and a half times more likely to be
thrown out because if they don't have a second place vote,
then their ballots just invalidated.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Interestingly, Barbirom was with us a little earlier, the Ingham
County clerk. She wants to be Secretary of State, and
I asked her what she thought about ranked choice voting,
and she sat squarely on the fence and simply said
that if it's implemented, they'll make sure that it's so
that it is facilitated properly. That was our answer to
whether she supported it or not.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It's not the she's probably trying to tow the Democrat
line and not get not get in trouble with people
who she hopes vote for in the future. But the
reality is, and this was asked in the hearing yesterday,
are there any clerks who are willing to come out
and support this, because I don't think we've heard of
one yet. It causes all kinds of problems. I don't
can imagine trying to do a hand recount of ranked
(06:22):
choice ballots. I'm not even sure that's possible. And you
have people in California, they have ranked choice voting in
some cities, but when it comes to re electing statewide
candidates like Gavin Newsom, he vetoed ranked choice voting in
the state of California. It was too radical for him.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So you'd have to write, I want this person first,
I like this one, you know about half as much.
And then if we get down here and you rank them,
these candidates in order, and then it all gets tabulated
and shifted around. We have enough concern about the validity
of our elections right now. It seems like, without some mistake,
serious system. And Shane Hernandez president of the Michigan Forward Network,
(07:04):
and if he were there, he would be voting for
a house built four seven zero seven, which protects Michigan
from Rank Choice chaos, that's what they call it. Thank
you very much and also great to hear your voice
again through the AT and T microphones. It's Michael Patrick
Shields radio stations across the state of Michigan and worldwide
atmibig show dot com.
Alarm clock starts ringing, and you could advance me saying
and it's me baby, would you have a wake up call?
How you like?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's Michael Patrick Shields, produced by Tony Cuppert and the Orchestra.
You still thank God crazy if you're standing me to
thank you love me even always dreamed about living in
your radio radio stations across the state of Michigan and
(00:41):
worldwide at MI Big show dot com. And you heard
me say, sort of very quickly with Attorney Mike Nichols
just a minute ago that at one of two University
of Michigan scholars from China smuggled biological material into the
United States and pleaded no contests. These things actually happen,
and if you think they don't, we have evidence now
(01:02):
in the court to show that it does. Four Chinese
nationals with ties to the University of Michigan were recently
charged with federal crimes. They smuggled round worms and other
bio materials into the country on three separate occasions. Now,
what are they up to? What are they doing? It's
(01:23):
kind of creepy, isn't it. And it's very unusual and
it's a criminal case right now at the University of Michigan.
We are with you politics as our family business. Five
current members of university boards, by the way, who were
nominated to their positions by Michigan Democrats, have decided to
endorse Mike Duggan, the independent for governor. That's got a
(01:47):
sting Democrats who put them in those positions presuming that
they would follow the marching orders. Well they're not. And
I find that very curious too. It's Michael Patrick Shields
with you. You can rise up and look and grow
and the greater epicenter of metro Detroit at Oakland University.
Thank you pushed beyond the four walls and think beyond.
(02:08):
Get creative opportunities for yourself and learn more at oaklandt Edu.
Speaking of education, there are I guess three finalists now
for the top education job in the state, and one
of them includes an out of state finalist for the
first time in two decades from Virginia State. The former
superintendent there is one of the three finalists. The other
(02:31):
is from Harrison Community Schools and Dearborn Public Schools if
you're following that sort of thing. Oh and speaking of
strange and unusual, California, man's been sentenced to eight years
in prison. You know what he did. He shipped weapons
and ammunition to North Korea and he said they were
to be used on a surprise attack on South Korea.
(02:53):
This is a forty two year old who came to
the US from China. Guess how on a student visa.
It happens around us right under our noses. Politics is
our family business and madis dot virtus. The truth is
in the middle. Shane Hernandez is with us right now,
president of the Michigan Forward Network and he was a
(03:14):
state legislator and ran for lieutenant governor. Thank you for
being here and welcome back to the program.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Thanks for having me back. It's been a little while.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
If you were in the legislature and House Bill forty
seven oh seven came in front of you, how would
you vote and what does it do?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I'd be voting yes for it to ban rank choice
voting in the state of Michigan. You know, you were
just talking about strange and weird, and that's what rank
choice voting is. I don't know, It's a solution in
search of a problem. Right now, one person gets one
vote for who they think is best for the job.
I'm not sure what's wrong with that and why anybody
(03:53):
wants to fix that. But rank choice voting essentially is
a system where there's four candidates. You would rank those
four candidates one through four, and if none of them
get a fifty percent of the first place votes, then
the last person gets dropped off, and whoever was ranked
number two on those ballots, then those votes become ones
(04:15):
and you go on and on with that until enough
person gets fifty percent of the one votes. So I
know that sounds confusing, because it is confusing, and it's
going to cause all kinds of problems with our election system.
If rank choice voting gets put in place in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And that process is all done in the tabulation, it's
not like you have to go back and vote again,
is it? Or is it?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You don't have to go back and vote again. But
one of the serious problems with it is if you're
somebody who just you know your candidate and you just
vote for the first place person and you don't vote
for anybody else, you could have your entire bollut invalidated
if it goes to a second round. If your person
was the last, came in last, and you didn't vote
(05:01):
for anybody else, then your entire ballot could just be
thrown out and it doesn't even get counted because you
didn't rank a second person. So causes all kinds of problems.
You know, I've seen data that says black voters are
two and a half times less likely to rank votes.
So a lot of the proponents of ranke choice voting
(05:21):
now the people saying voter ID is a burden, violates
civil rights. And then they turn around and they want
a system where the votes of a black person that
are two and a half times more likely to be
thrown out because if they don't have a second place vote,
then their ballots just invalidated.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Interestingly, Barbirom was with us a little earlier, the Ingham
County clerk. She wants to be Secretary of State, and
I asked her what she thought about ranked choice voting,
and she sat squarely on the fence and simply said
that if it's implemented, they'll make sure that it's so
that it is facilitated properly. That was our answer to
whether she supported it or not.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It's not the she's probably trying to tow the Democrat
line and not get not get in trouble with people
who she hopes vote for in the future. But the
reality is, and this was asked in the hearing yesterday,
are there any clerks who are willing to come out
and support this, because I don't think we've heard of
one yet. It causes all kinds of problems. I don't
can imagine trying to do a hand recount of ranked
(06:22):
choice ballots. I'm not even sure that's possible. And you
have people in California, they have ranked choice voting in
some cities, but when it comes to re electing statewide
candidates like Gavin Newsom, he vetoed ranked choice voting in
the state of California. It was too radical for him.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So you'd have to write, I want this person first,
I like this one, you know about half as much.
And then if we get down here and you rank them,
these candidates in order, and then it all gets tabulated
and shifted around. We have enough concern about the validity
of our elections right now. It seems like, without some mistake,
serious system. And Shane Hernandez president of the Michigan Forward Network,
(07:04):
and if he were there, he would be voting for
a house built four seven zero seven, which protects Michigan
from Rank Choice chaos, that's what they call it. Thank
you very much and also great to hear your voice
again through the AT and T microphones. It's Michael Patrick
Shields radio stations across the state of Michigan and worldwide
atmibig show dot com.
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