June 9, 2025 • 39 mins
The Midlife Crisisses are back! On today's episode, Tyson Apostol (@tysonapostol) Bradley Hasemayer (@bhaz) and William Drumm (@williamdrumm) discuss looking at the past, discovering what's next, buying a car wash, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Midlife Crisis is I'm Tyson, one of
the hosts. Thank you so much for liking, subscribing, commenting,
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(00:22):
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So smash that subscribe button, that like button, that follow button,
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
And we really want to hear for you guys too.
We want to hear about your midlife crisises. We want
to know what kind of stuff you are going through
so that we can talk about it and share our
insights about trying to survive this quote as well.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You've asked the question, you're internally asking the question. You've
asked your friends. Are your best days behind you? This
is something that you probably wrestle with. This is something
we wrestle with as well. Here at the Midlife Crisis podcast,
we're bringing it up, we're talking about it, We're trying
to figure out are our best days behind us.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
We got some insights, but we got to do this together.
To join us this.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Week, Welcome back to midlife Crisis. This is where we
talk about all of the struggles, triumphs, and pain, but
also some laughs that go into being middle aged. My
name is William Drum. I'm a Denver based underwater photographer
and I'm blessed my two co hosts here today Bradley
and Tyson. Tyson, how you doing.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm doing great. You know, we're in our midlife so
it's always touch and go on these things. Whether or
not we're showing up, ail mint, worse, scheduled schedule, could
be anything, but we're all here. All three of us
made it. We got the three pack and Bradley, what's
up to you?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I always love leading with a thank you because I'm
a compassionate person. So thank you to you guys for
showing up, and thank you to the listeners for showing up,
Thanks for liking, thanks for subscribing. We love seeing the
new subs. We love seeing new mail. Sometimes, I mean
it's not male, to be honest, it's not real male,
but DMS messages all that are coming in, it's really fun. Yeah, man,
(02:11):
I'm you know what, I'm right in the middle of
a midlife crisis. My daughter turned twelve today, which is
kind of crazy happy birth, Yeah, exactly. To think like
twelve years ago, it's kind of trippy as you start
thinking about your own existence, to think like, twelve years
and one day ago, no one's ever seen her. She
didn't other than in the belly. So you could say,
(02:34):
thirteen years ago, she didn't even exist. She wasn't even
in the world. That's just kind of a wild thought,
especially when it's someone you see every day, whether it's
a spouse, you know yourself in the mirror, you know
your kids, that kind of thing. There's a little bit
of like, if you can take a second, a birthday
is a really big deal because you can think about,
like my son's five, I feel like he's been here
(02:55):
and this is all because he's a little bit high needs.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I feel like he's been here twenty years, not just five. Yeah,
so it's like.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I can't believe, you know, Or I'm coming up on
an anniversary in a week of being married. It'll be
fourteen years, and it's like, hasn't that been forever?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
There's some of these.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Statesment to do before then yeah, exactly, Yeah, whatever I wanted,
I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Whatever I want it. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
So anyway, so yeah, going through that and then you know,
I'm sure some of our listeners, especially anyone in the
parenting world or anyone who runs a small business, which
I would argue having a family is a small business.
You know, Like today we have this show in the
midst of my wife driving up to pick up our
nieces to bring them down for Ellis's birthdays, a couple
(03:44):
hour drive. I was trying to get to Costco, get
there and be back. But it's like, can you ever
get out of Costco in less than twenty or thirty minutes?
Like no one's ever done that, no way for less
than two hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And so it's a mission. If you have a mission
to pick up one thing or two things, then maybe,
but otherwise.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Now that's so rare. They don't even have a line
for that, you know what I mean. Like the grocery
store has like ten items or less because people can
do that.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
You get to Costco, it's impotty.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You're like you go in first, you know, twenty three
bell peppers and you come out with a pool floating.
It's like I didn't we don't have it is true,
Like what a good deal on that spaan.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Because you're planning to get a pool, so you may
as well stock a plastic voice.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And Tarrasco. The Costco community, that's right. You got to
stock up on everything before tariffs. The Costco community is
welcoming though. If you roll to the UH if you
go up to the check out with two items, a
lot of times those full cart people will let you
go in front.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh, everybody's nice at Costco. All the employees are so
nice it actually trucks their employees good. So the employees
are not terrible to be around. So yeah, it's another
good thing about Cosco.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Another place that does that, other than Trader Joe's. People
know Trader Joe is BUCkies. We'll get to our question
at a second. But I don't know, do you guys
know BUCkies.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I've never been. That's a then that's not an air
Arizona thing.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I know from my Florida trips.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's a Southeast thing and it's world renowned.
Oh my, people talk about it all the time. It's
the Costco of gas stations. Yeah, ultimately, but if you're
a GM, they have their like dollars posted. You can
make one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand dollars. Basically,
if you're a store manager, it's wild. So it's like wow,
and everybody there's like, hey, welcome to BUCkies. Hey, here's
fresh barbecue. Hey want a taster her, Hey want to
(05:24):
test her? Like whatever, and whatever you want. You want
BUCkies branded merch or you want regular stuff from other brands,
they got all of it.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It's great. It's a goode with tariffs.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I have a quick update from what we talked about
last week. Last week we talked about how my daughter
got on my phone, my five year old daughter, and
ordered five hundred dollars worth of babies.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
No dollars worth of babies less.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, yeah, okay, so three hundred dollars last week. I
didn't realize at the time that there was more than
one order. So on Saturday I opened the front door
and there was two more giant Amazon boxes full of
more of the idea identical the same lifelike baby. So
now I've got a stack of ten of these identical
(06:07):
lifelike babies that I'm deciding if I should send back
or if I should hold on to them for the
tariff pricing and then sign. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Absolutely, just you can only sell those out of the
trunk of your car. Nothing shout that I want to
see my baby exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I would return them, I take them a lot of Yeah,
I wouldn't wait for anything.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
King, I have a million things to sell that are
not babies.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So yes, that's my scuba tank, maybe a mask, maybe
a baby. You can diversify what you're telling wouldn't draw
any attention.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Did you check your Amazon orders? Sure there's not more incoming.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, I've got them all returned already and they're next
to me right here. I'm heading to the post office
later today between packing for Mexico tomorrow mapping up business stuff. Yeah,
it's a full day for me too, So I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Glad that you're right in the middle of when do
I do this? I can do like part of this
now and then take a break and do this thing.
And then got to do this because I got to
figure out. Instead of going to Costco, I decided I'll
stay here because Kirsten called and said, well, at two
o'clock we can go pick up like a cookie cake,
which is.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Really close there.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
So then it's like, well, I don't want to go
there and back there and back, so let me just
wrap it all in anyway. So that's you guys living
that we're all kind of going through the logistics that
Tyson's got a bunch of stuff coming up as well,
which is why we're shooting extra episodes because we love
you guys and we're here for it. So I will
admit I was not very prepared. I did not realize
(07:42):
it was my turn to bring a question, so we
all kind of spitballed. William brought it a great question
which I like and I'm going to take because it's
my week, which is all your best days behind you,
and maybe how do you define best days would be
another way to look at it, because we've talked about
this before in terms of like goals and where you are,
and you know, fifteen years ago when you set the
(08:04):
goals or even maybe just maybe they weren't goals on
a sheet of paper, but in your brain you were like,
by the time I'm forty five, this is roughly what
my life will look like. And we all basically confess
it's not where we are in our life and is
that okay?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Is it not?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
So along those same lines, I think this is something
that comes up and for me, this is an interesting
question because I'm really looking forward to, like what is
the next part of the chapter of my life.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I'm a social media content creator.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I work with brands and organizations, but that's really unstable,
as anyone in the freelance or sales world knows. You
could have a great year, you could have a terrible year,
good month, bad month, all this kind of stuff, And
so I've really been thinking about investing in like basically
buying a self served car wash. And it's so like outlandish,
but I wanted a brick and mortar. I want something
(08:51):
that kind of aligns with what I love, which are automobiles.
I'm a car journalist as well, so something like in
that world that intersects car culture and car service and
something that's basically a large vending machine from the standpoint
of like I don't have to pay a manager to
be there every day.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I don't need special license to sell stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I would love to do a coffee shop maybe eventually,
but then you're getting into you know, like the food
people have to come out make sure everything's sanitary, and
there's OSHA and you got all these things posted, and
so there's a lot of I was doing some research.
There's a lot of boomers. We're basically like, I'm kind
of done. I want to get out of this, and
so some of these are for sale. So I've been
looking at that and looking into it, and so it's
(09:29):
kind of like I'm excited by the potential of that,
which sounds really odd because it's like a car wash.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
But you know, there's something about the new it's.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
A new adventure. It's always it's like a reset on
whatever stuff you're doing. I excited about that stuff all
the time.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, So I think that kind of plays into that
question a little bit too.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You guys know, Tyson, obviously you've had a really checkered past.
You've had a bunch of variety from from pro from
pro cycling, the survivor obviously and the greatest pickleball player
the world has ever known.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yep, there it is flex, just the off screen flex.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And of course William, you know, in terms of where
you thought you'd be and what you're doing now, and
you know, all that kind of stuff. So yeah, a
good question for you guys, and I'll kind of chime
in after that.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Sure. Well, yeah, I brought the question because I'm turning
forty on Wednesday of this week, two days. In two days,
will you be in Mexico for forty I'll be on
a boat swimming with sharks searching for coler whales. Oh
and yeah, so I've got a good plan for my birthday.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But and that's cool because, like I've told you, i'll
come intern for you whenever you want. But I didn't
hear about the mix good trip until it was already.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
It's too late.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, as last minute, I just had to get out
of town.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Right around tax sees that I got to leave the
country for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, okay, yeah, with my birthday coming up, I'm just
like you know, I've talked about it a lot on
this podcast, but I thought that I would have more
kids at this time. I lost my house in the divorce,
so like it's I'm a single dad. These are all
these things that I never imagined, Like I thought I
would have three kids, a wife, a house of my own.
(11:17):
But that's not even it either.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's also just a question real quick about that we
just pleasely talked about new chapters and new adventures. Is
there any part of you that, as that was happening,
was a little bit excited to face the unknown or
the adventure or the challenge, even just the challenge and
maybe not adventures maybe too positive of a word, but
the challenge of that. Was there any part of you
(11:41):
that was in yourself again like I got this, I'm
gonna like take it head on.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And absolutely, and it comes in phases. So there's definitely
moments where so excited and you know, excited for getting
back into things that I did before the marriage, before
the family life, all of that, but everything just moves
and such weird ways, and like grief too, grief like
after the divorce, there's different phases where you know, you
(12:05):
miss your partner, you miss the family, you miss the stability,
and it comes in waves. And then like right now
it's more like I miss, well, not miss but I'm
bummed out that I don't have the house and I'm
sad that we didn't have more kids. So yeah, it
comes in waves, and I'm trying to get back to
(12:26):
that point where I'm like excited about this future and
talking about resets like I'm turning forty, it's a new decade.
I got this new house, so I'm at a great
point right now to reset. But it's so different trying
to reset on relationships and family at this point, at
this age, especially with the kids. Like part of me
(12:47):
is like, I still really really want to have more kids,
and then part of me is like, fuck, I'm tired,
and like I don't know if I could actually handle
having another kid, And how long would it take to
find a partner that I to have a kid with.
What about having like a step kid, finding a partner
with a daughter or son already, Like there's a lot
(13:07):
of things. My sister she has a step kid and
a son, and she met her partner when he was
forty years old and then they had their son. So
I know it's not impossible you have more kids, but
it's a lot and it's hard to It's very different
(13:29):
being excited about like all these things that I always
wanted at this age because of being so busy, because
of not having the energy that I used to have. Yeah,
so that's why I'm just kind of wondering, Like I mean,
not really wondering, but sometimes when I'm feeling down I
feel like fuck, like it's all the best things are done,
(13:53):
Like I've already done all of the best things in
my life, Like what else is there? Like it's it
becomes Groundhog's day, it becomes like a daily grind sometimes
where's the same shit over and over again? And when
I feel depressed, like I think that, man, whatever, now
it's just getting through life, getting through the days. Whereas
(14:14):
I used to be so excited about everything, and that's
only in the baddest days, the worst days, but it's still.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
They're still there.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
First first time in my life I've never thought about like, hey,
is this like are the best stays behind me? Or
can it still be really good? So that's why I
wanted to bring the question you guys and Bradley, I'm
glad that you thought it was interesting. You want to
jump on it too.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I'll yeah, I think a lot about what is the best.
I think about relationships, how we always remember the good
and then, like you go back some journals from years ago.
I was going through storage and stuff that like my
parents were like take this out of the basement, please,
you don't want this here. I was like, great, So
I was going through stuff that I totally forgot about.
(14:58):
And Kirsten, my wife, has an amazing memory. She remembers everything.
She's like, I remember that guy and like I liked him,
but he didn't like me back. And then there's this
guy and I liked him and like I embarrassed him
in front of these people.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I don't remember that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I barely remember anything. And she's like, how did you
feel when blah blah. I'm like, I don't even did
that even happen. I don't even know what you're.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Talking about, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I don't log the feel like I loged the thing usually.
So I went back and I looked at stuff, and
I was like, oh man, I was a mess in
my twenties. Like the idea of like my best days
are behind me is like really interesting when you look
at I just I was like, I was a lot
more nervous. I was not as self assured. I was
worried because I didn't have I was so green right
(15:40):
like I was. I wouldn't say sheltered. I did some
stuff that was really great for me In college. I
did a study abroad, which was massive. I moved around
a little bit post college, just to like just because I.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Could, and there were things like that that really grew
me up.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
But that was like those those were fun times in retrospect,
but it's almost like scary times in the middle of it.
You know, it's kind of funny to look back on that.
I don't know, Tyson, how did you feel about that
if you look back on kind of how what your
mindset was back in your glory days of sleeping in
in Europe and biking for two hundred miles.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, I mean physically I was at my peak from
like twenty six to thirty.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
No backfat was that's covered last last week ago.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Suction cup to a water slide for sure. No, yeah,
super lane felt great, had all the energy, could do
anything physically that I ever even wanted. Like you could
be like we should just go jog for ten hours.
I was like, yeah, no problem, may as well have
Nathon just woke up, haven't trained, let's go, Yeah, no problem.
(16:46):
And so that definitely I missed, but I don't miss
it enough to try and get in shape like that now.
So I just would magically like to be in that
goodive shape without doing anything. But I think, like what
William said is like the monotony of the grind, and
you know it's the same day in and out, and like,
(17:06):
are currently Yeah, I mean that's kind that can be
like the feeling of it as you're doing some of
these things right now in life. But I think that
when you look back, you're like, oh, those were the
best days. I did all the things. I did everything
I wanted. I accomplished all these things. Like I did
(17:27):
things I never even thought would Like I had no
plans to go on Survivor and win and do all
of that. And so now when I think of where
I'm at, I'm like, oh, I accomplished way more than
I even set out to do, and way different, and
like I was a pro psychlist. I lived in Europe
(17:48):
for a long time, I swam in college, went on
a Mormon mission, and lived in the Philippines for a
couple of years, been all over the world, been on
Survivor four times, just like all these things. So now
when I take a step back, I'm like, I did
all the things and more like I got extra credit.
And now the thing that is good for the thing
(18:11):
that I want to do is make sure that my
kids get extra credit too. So even though it may
be monotonous for me. Now it's new and exciting and
another chapter for my kids, and I may be reliving
some of those chapters in some capacity and be like
I've already been here, I've already done this, but my
(18:32):
kids haven't. And so if I can just put myself
in that mindset of like my chapters and adventures now
are to make sure that my kids get the most
out of their chapters and adventures.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Definitely, And that's a different thing about going into my
forties verse going to my thirties or something like I
I just want to set up rowing too and like
have the best life life for her. So I don't
know how to say it, but basically, like these things
(19:07):
that I thought.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I don't know how to say this. Sorry, I'm out.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I really thought that was Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Kind of what I mean is like a lot of
the things that I thought would be the best thing
you can do in your life, adventure all this Now
I feel like those things have to be behind me
because I'm more interested in creating stability for my daughter
and making this better future. And some of that does
(19:40):
come with like the monotony and like doing the same
thing day in and day out, so that's where it
comes into, like, well, should I have my chance to
do all these things for myself. Now that's in the past,
and now I got to just make a stable environment
for my daughter and make money for her. And is
that going to be boring or is that and to
be rewarding for having the family and everything?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I feel that because but I also I also asked
myself sometimes like and we've talked about this too, kind
of like that element of do I genuinely want to
be back in that place of the grind or the
hustle or the whatever, or is it just like and
like trade that for where I am, you know, Like
and it's okay, I think to arrive at the basically
(20:28):
I'm here to make their life better. If that's a
genuine I am there, I'm not fighting anything internally, then
I think that's a great place to be. But I
also think it's okay to be like, ah, yeah, but
like I still want to do this thing or that thing.
You know we've talked about, like the whole SNL thing,
right like if SNL came knocking on the door today,
and because that's some that was like an ever dream
(20:49):
for me, which like could you met, like that would
be deep. But if they came and they were like, hey,
we want you to be a cast member and be
like I can't do that. I mean maybe I would
try to find a way, but like it would actually
be not as fun because I actually want to be here.
I want to be in my kids' lives, I want
to be with my wife, I want to be in
this stage in the life. So you know, from that standpoint, too,
(21:09):
is like I'm glad that I'm genuinely there. Like I
remember when I first moved to La it was like
my dreams and goals. Everything was about acting, casting director workshops,
meet agents, like stay up late, read the trades. It
was like I was going full tilt and and like
I was fine just eating beans and rice.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
It's like, because it's about the career, let's go.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Baby, let's go, and you know, and then eventually I
got to the place where it was kind of like
I you know, people are like, what's your dream, Like
that's my dream, that's my dream. My dream now is
like providing for my family. That's why I want to
own a car wash, like you know, or like that's
why I you know, at sometimes I feel like an
idiot when I'm shooting a video for a brand that's
(21:50):
like it's a little pet store and little Atlanta or Fayetteville,
Georgia or whatever, and I'm kind of like, aren't I
better than this?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I'm shooting video of like a dog getting a bath,
like this was not in the equation.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
But then it's like, but the end goal of that
is putting food on the table, and I'm more now
passionate about that than growing my individual career. And that's
that's come to me slowly through time. But it kind
of sounds like that's what you're kind of asking, Slash saying, William, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And what's tricky about that is like, for me, growing
my career is how I will also ride for Rowan,
you know, right right, and with being an underwater photographer,
like traveling more is better for my career, but it's
worse for Rowan. And it's a weird life that I've
(22:41):
put myself in where I am a professional underwater photographer
living in the suburbs of Denver, Colorado, you know, trying
to figure all this out.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So that alone says everything. That dichotomy there is great.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, and it is really exciting too, Like I am
getting a little bit more excited for this next next decade,
and there's parts of being a single dad that I
really do love. And you had a really great point, Bradley,
is that a lot of times, you know, everything is
rosier in the past, Like you don't remember the bad
(23:18):
parts as much as you remember the well, depending on
what it is, a lot of times you only focus
on the best parts of it. And I think that
that is really true. I think that I have a
habit of sugarcoating the past and glorifying it. And that's
part of why I'm coming to this question of like, wow,
is every is anything going to be ever as good
(23:40):
as it was back then? Because it probably wasn't as
good as I'm remembering it like, and it could be
a lot better in the future.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So well, it's different too, like your your goals and
aspiration shift, Whereas like when I was younger, it was
like how lean can I get and how much more
dominant and an endurance sport and I be? And what
is the line between being an asshole and being likable?
Because I'm going to toe that as tight as possible,
(24:09):
Whereas now it's like for my family, yeah, drinking some
amazing landscape panoramas in person, and when I can and
see as much different wildlife as possible, and both of
those things, the panoramas and the wildlife. Most of the
time I would prefer to share it with my family.
Some of the time I want to see it by myself,
(24:30):
but most of the time that right, family too. And
so it's like it's so much different than so different
than fifteen years ago, where it was like I have
different objectives, and now it's like literally like if we
can get somewhere and I can see an amazing sunset
(24:51):
on a hill I've never been on before, you know,
once a month or something, then I'm like, that's pretty good.
I'm still doing it. So I just think it's it's
so much different. And when your kids are there, like
that's the whole goal of it. That's the new adventure
is making sure because I can't even like I try
(25:12):
to put myself in my kid's head, but it's like,
remember how excited kids were when they're young. Rowans still
might be there every time an airplane goes by, that's me. Yeah,
you can see.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
When you're a helicopter or an airplane full step side,
I'm excited to see what that is.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
If it's a helic.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Driving past horses or cows or anything, and and you're like,
oh yeah, no, more cows. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's more cows.
That's what how we eat. That's where we get our
hamburgers from. That's hilarious. But that's like, uh, I think,
like you have to understand that for them, these things
can be very very very exciting, and I don't even
(25:52):
understand how exciting it is. One thing, when I took
the girls to Vegas to do their synchronized swimming competition
and do their hair Bergen, it was a regional to
qualify for Junior Olympics, and the top three teams that
regionals qualified for Junior Olympics. They took second, so they
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qualified for Junior Olympics. There were two teams. There were
only two teams. The team was so excited, and I
didn't understand. I feel so bad for not understanding how
excited Bergen was that they qualified. In my mind, I
was like, you took last place, also took a second.
I didn't say like you lost. I just was like
it's kind of like it's kind of you know, like
(26:37):
it negates itself in a way and you're like, okay, cool,
we did it, Like that's would be my attitude. She
immediately got on her phone texted her friend's pictures of
her with her medal, oh wow, and saying we qualified.
I qualified for Junior Olympics. She was so excited. She
didn't share that excitement with me, so I didn't hype
it properly, and so I felt really bad about not
(26:58):
hyping it properly right after it happened and on the
way home. I've since been way more hype about it
around her because I realized just from because I see
her texts to her friends, I realized how pumped she was,
and she's super stoic anyways, so like I would never
(27:18):
really get that read on her anyways. So I think
that was a good check for me to be Like,
kids find things very exciting, things that you don't even
think are exciting. They get senses of accomplishment from things
that you can't even fathom they would, and so you
need to like that is part of your goal is
(27:40):
making sure that they're getting the ample hype and love
and recognition of those not only accomplishments, but those unique
things in life. Like we took the kids to go
swhen with the Well Sharks a couple of years ago.
They loved it. We loved it. It was amazing. They
were super stoked on it. And I could tell there
was were stoked on that. But like some stuff you
(28:03):
just can't and you just have to assume sometimes that
they are trying to put yourself in their shoes.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
So your kids are going to hit like like eighteen
and they'll be like, They'll be sitting having coffee and
be like.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Are our best days behind it? We swam with Weale.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Sharks, we went to we qualified for Junior Olympics. Like,
what an amazing childhood like to have some of these
great moments, you know. For me, it was like we're
going to Grandma's again, you know. And it was like,
but my kids have no clue of that. They have
no concept like all the cool stuff they get to do.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But that's I think it's cool. But that's the thing
is that to them it's so cool. It doesn't have
to be anything big.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Like, no, always forget about that. I always like go
all out for stuff. Yeah, even though the smallest things
can make rown just so excited and happy.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, cardboard box as a toy versus a.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Every dollar get Christmas. Right, the thing out, it was
like I want to play with this box.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
But that really is the mindset of like, it's not
it's not the quality that of the thing you do,
it's it's how you make it for them and and
understanding their perception of it.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
So I also think for you, William, I could see
a time when then Rowan is is accompanying you on
some of these dives.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
No, I'm the intern. Nice try Bradley, you can carry
you can carry hers.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Actually you'll be carrying Shiloh's stuff and Rowan and then
and then Williams as well, and then to show up.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, Like we went to Bonair together last year. This
year we're going to Curseol in August and she models
for me, She does some underwater photography with me, swims
with me, and that's going to just keep getting better
and better and more awesome. And that is something that
I'm really excited for. Honestly, badly, I think that just
bringing stuff into perspective about everything is sugarcoated in the past,
(30:10):
and it's not like that. And there's a lot of
stuff that I'm really excited for in my forties, like
being more developed as a person, being more stable financially,
and then incorporating Rowan into more of my adventures and
more of like my life are really exciting. It's just
(30:32):
really scary as far as finding a partner and trying
to decide, like these are like real ass decisions that
I've never had to make when I was younger, Yeah,
or because I just didn't like it didn't bother me. Now,
like I didn't realize how much I was going to
love having kids and want having kids until, like you
(30:54):
know now, honestly, Like I was with my family up
in the mountains this weekend with my nieces and nephews.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Texted to some photos. Yeah, you guys seem like you're
having a blasts all fun.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, doing stick topper. Yeah, I mean roaming through the
woods killing hot dog beasts and cooking them on an
open grill. And and just I just love kids so much,
and I really really, like, more than ever in my life,
I want to have more kids. And I'm at a
point now where it's like, fuck, if I'm going to
do that, I have to do that. So is it
(31:26):
better to like spend effort and time trying to do
that or is it better to be thankful for having
Rowan in the life that I have and how to
balance those two things?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, decisions right, already carrying the bag, You're already gonna.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Be there as well.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah. My sister was actually like, you know, you could
adopt a single dad. Adopting I don't know about that, but.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
That's that's a big lift on so many levels, just
like it is really adding a new baby. I mean,
I definitely felt like with Loick, whom we adopted, just
being like this is why people had kids when they're
like twenty three and twenty four. It's exactly getting woken
up in the middle of the night at forty one
or forty two and you're just like, what what is he?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
No, my body doesn't work like this anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I'm in great shape, and I'm still exhausted at the end,
like he just goes and I've got a lot of energy.
Everybody was always like I was doing cartwheels in the
morning at like six o'clock, just like outside. I had
tons of energy. I was like always that guy. People
always like, how are you still awake? How are you
still up?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
And I was just like let's go and that has
served me well. But I mean just the the sheer
energy it takes to and also just like sometimes there's
like I'm a grown ass man. I don't want to
be doing this. This is not for me, you know
what I mean. So, but I also think what's good.
You guys can can speak to this too. The older
(32:58):
you get, the if you can just maintain like an averageness,
you rise above the competition so quickly.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So all this time you're the hot guy at dinner
in the restaurant you walk into. You were never that guy.
You're not even doing anything. You're just like you're just
in shape and like a nice person and everyone's like
he's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, that's us three defines us three.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, so can you guys tell me then the best
days are not behind me?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Right? Yeah, the best days are not behind you. But
those also weren't worst days anyway. There's not better day,
there's they're all good days. I mean, they're not all
good days, but you have good days in the future.
They're just different days. They're different than what you your
definition of a good day was back then. So like
I saw a bird with that had like a really
(33:51):
red chest and a red face in my backyard yesterday,
fucking pump me up. You know, I don't know if
fifteen twenty years ago that would have really had the
same effect on me.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I doubt it. Yeah, so I think you would have
been married to Rachel. I think she'd walk right past
into year old bird geet. Yeah, that's cool. I think
I'm just gonna go to head over this right help
me big red.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
It was red.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
You don't see that kind of color.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
You don't see that kind of color in the United
States that often.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
That's pantone eight seven four.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You didn't know that?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, yeah, uh so, yeah, that's my my I mean takeaway.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Is the encouragement. I think there's an encouraging moment to
this for all of us. I think it's encouragement just
different days.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
They're different days, and a lot of those days aren't
you trying to seek out your best day, but it's
trying to create the best day.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
For your future?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yes, under so stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Did any other takeaways from that besides that, I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Gonna think about your forties. How's the forties going, dude?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Forties are great?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Forties are good. I I I don't know if it's
just that my I'm a narcissist or what, but I'm like,
I could be in the best shape of my life
if I wanted to in six months, if you just
challenged me to do it, for sure, I can easily
do it.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
And so I don't feel like this consciously, I don't.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
All but like.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Anything, like there's stuff I know I can't do, but
like I'm not to the point where I'm like, oh,
I can never do that. I'm to the point where
I'm like, yeah, I can do it if I want it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I just don't want to.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I just don't need to put I don't want to
put six hours a day into any into getting there.
And so like that my body, I just went in
for my physical I had my colon colonoscopy thing like
the colon where I sent it in passed with flying colors, exemplary.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And so it's like all those things are just like, Okay,
I feel good, I move pretty good. I don't have
any like reoccurring aches.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
And means ah, oh yeah that was a fire alarm.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, And so I feel Yeah, so I think and
it's different for everybody, but like Bradley said, we're average
e fitness guys and we're you know, they kind of
stay we stay active, we stay pretty fit, and I
think that's going to go a long way into the
future because I look at people, like I met a
(36:26):
dude the other day that was like, you're only three
years younger than me, and I was like, yeah, I'm
surprised too. Now you set, you're that's crazy because you
look like you are seventy.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
That's it's it, and.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
That's wherever you go. So I think being able to
just move normal when you're in your forties and fifties
is going to put you head and shoulders above anything.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
All right, I want to do this. Don't give too
much away, Tyson. I want to do an episode. Maybe
this will be our next episode. Listen, so listen up, Tyson.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
You and I both.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Individually bring maybe five bits of advice to someone entering
forty William, and then we'll kind of clear those with you.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
William.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
We'll just like, bring this is these are my five things,
and then Tyson, these will be your five things or whatever,
and then maybe let's also We're also put out a
post on social couple posts if you guys out there
have advice for William entering forty. It's a big one.
Whether you're in there or you've heard advice or whatever.
I think that'll be really interesting. I'd love to hear
(37:33):
some of that stuff too, because I've got thoughts, but
I want to save them for our next episode because
I think this will be really interesting. You only do
it once, William only turn forty once, so we're going
to make it a big deal.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
We are going to make it a big deal.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Hopefully. I am swimming with killer whales on my birthday,
maybe watching them destroy a whale shark right in front
of me, and I'll just think about Tyson and as kids.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
And no do kill or wells pray on wal sharks.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It's all then seeing a couple of times, and only recently,
but yeah, this is amazing because what they think that
they do is because whale sharks have the strongest, like
thickest skin out of any fish, so whale sharks can't
really get at them, can't really rip them up. So
what they think that they do is that they wrap
(38:20):
their lips around their private parts, around their people, suck
their guts out from their butthole.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, everybody has their things, circle of everybody.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
The best days are behind him.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
My best days are now behind me. This is the
turning point in my life. I've actually heard that before because.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I, yeah, I probably told you that.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You might have told me. You might have told me,
and I don't know where else you would get that information.
Guy too though, So I see like my Google, my
Google news feed is filled wild life stories, cyclings, updates,
and camera.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Equip Oh, we should do that for an episode two
where we just talk about like what's on your FYP?
What are their social media trying to serve you? I
think that's interesting, good way to know something.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I also want to hear from the listeners how their
forties are going, what they think about their forties compared
to their thirties. Yeah, and if they I mean, I've
heard from a lot of forty somethings that forties are
awesome and they're loving them. Yeah, so that's encouraging. And
if they're not awesome, that's okay. You can share that too, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Please do all right, that'll do it here at Midlife Crisises.
We will be back next week. See, so thank you
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(00:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
And we really want to hear for you guys too.
We want to hear about your midlife crisises. We want
to know what kind of stuff you are going through
so that we can talk about it and share our
insights about trying to survive this quote as well.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You've asked the question, you're internally asking the question. You've
asked your friends. Are your best days behind you? This
is something that you probably wrestle with. This is something
we wrestle with as well. Here at the Midlife Crisis podcast,
we're bringing it up, we're talking about it, We're trying
to figure out are our best days behind us.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
We got some insights, but we got to do this together.
To join us this.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Week, Welcome back to midlife Crisis. This is where we
talk about all of the struggles, triumphs, and pain, but
also some laughs that go into being middle aged. My
name is William Drum. I'm a Denver based underwater photographer
and I'm blessed my two co hosts here today Bradley
and Tyson. Tyson, how you doing.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm doing great. You know, we're in our midlife so
it's always touch and go on these things. Whether or
not we're showing up, ail mint, worse, scheduled schedule, could
be anything, but we're all here. All three of us
made it. We got the three pack and Bradley, what's
up to you?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I always love leading with a thank you because I'm
a compassionate person. So thank you to you guys for
showing up, and thank you to the listeners for showing up,
Thanks for liking, thanks for subscribing. We love seeing the
new subs. We love seeing new mail. Sometimes, I mean
it's not male, to be honest, it's not real male,
but DMS messages all that are coming in, it's really fun. Yeah, man,
(02:11):
I'm you know what, I'm right in the middle of
a midlife crisis. My daughter turned twelve today, which is
kind of crazy happy birth, Yeah, exactly. To think like
twelve years ago, it's kind of trippy as you start
thinking about your own existence, to think like, twelve years
and one day ago, no one's ever seen her. She
didn't other than in the belly. So you could say,
(02:34):
thirteen years ago, she didn't even exist. She wasn't even
in the world. That's just kind of a wild thought,
especially when it's someone you see every day, whether it's
a spouse, you know yourself in the mirror, you know
your kids, that kind of thing. There's a little bit
of like, if you can take a second, a birthday
is a really big deal because you can think about,
like my son's five, I feel like he's been here
(02:55):
and this is all because he's a little bit high needs.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I feel like he's been here twenty years, not just five. Yeah,
so it's like.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I can't believe, you know, Or I'm coming up on
an anniversary in a week of being married. It'll be
fourteen years, and it's like, hasn't that been forever?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
There's some of these.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Statesment to do before then yeah, exactly, Yeah, whatever I wanted,
I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Whatever I want it. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
So anyway, so yeah, going through that and then you know,
I'm sure some of our listeners, especially anyone in the
parenting world or anyone who runs a small business, which
I would argue having a family is a small business.
You know, Like today we have this show in the
midst of my wife driving up to pick up our
nieces to bring them down for Ellis's birthdays, a couple
(03:44):
hour drive. I was trying to get to Costco, get
there and be back. But it's like, can you ever
get out of Costco in less than twenty or thirty minutes?
Like no one's ever done that, no way for less
than two hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And so it's a mission. If you have a mission
to pick up one thing or two things, then maybe,
but otherwise.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Now that's so rare. They don't even have a line
for that, you know what I mean. Like the grocery
store has like ten items or less because people can
do that.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
You get to Costco, it's impotty.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You're like you go in first, you know, twenty three
bell peppers and you come out with a pool floating.
It's like I didn't we don't have it is true,
Like what a good deal on that spaan.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Because you're planning to get a pool, so you may
as well stock a plastic voice.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And Tarrasco. The Costco community, that's right. You got to
stock up on everything before tariffs. The Costco community is
welcoming though. If you roll to the UH if you
go up to the check out with two items, a
lot of times those full cart people will let you
go in front.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh, everybody's nice at Costco. All the employees are so
nice it actually trucks their employees good. So the employees
are not terrible to be around. So yeah, it's another
good thing about Cosco.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Another place that does that, other than Trader Joe's. People
know Trader Joe is BUCkies. We'll get to our question
at a second. But I don't know, do you guys
know BUCkies.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I've never been. That's a then that's not an air
Arizona thing.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I know from my Florida trips.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's a Southeast thing and it's world renowned.
Oh my, people talk about it all the time. It's
the Costco of gas stations. Yeah, ultimately, but if you're
a GM, they have their like dollars posted. You can
make one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand dollars. Basically,
if you're a store manager, it's wild. So it's like wow,
and everybody there's like, hey, welcome to BUCkies. Hey, here's
fresh barbecue. Hey want a taster her, Hey want to
(05:24):
test her? Like whatever, and whatever you want. You want
BUCkies branded merch or you want regular stuff from other brands,
they got all of it.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It's great. It's a goode with tariffs.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I have a quick update from what we talked about
last week. Last week we talked about how my daughter
got on my phone, my five year old daughter, and
ordered five hundred dollars worth of babies.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
No dollars worth of babies less.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, yeah, okay, so three hundred dollars last week. I
didn't realize at the time that there was more than
one order. So on Saturday I opened the front door
and there was two more giant Amazon boxes full of
more of the idea identical the same lifelike baby. So
now I've got a stack of ten of these identical
(06:07):
lifelike babies that I'm deciding if I should send back
or if I should hold on to them for the
tariff pricing and then sign. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Absolutely, just you can only sell those out of the
trunk of your car. Nothing shout that I want to
see my baby exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I would return them, I take them a lot of Yeah,
I wouldn't wait for anything.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
King, I have a million things to sell that are
not babies.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So yes, that's my scuba tank, maybe a mask, maybe
a baby. You can diversify what you're telling wouldn't draw
any attention.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Did you check your Amazon orders? Sure there's not more incoming.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, I've got them all returned already and they're next
to me right here. I'm heading to the post office
later today between packing for Mexico tomorrow mapping up business stuff. Yeah,
it's a full day for me too, So I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Glad that you're right in the middle of when do
I do this? I can do like part of this
now and then take a break and do this thing.
And then got to do this because I got to
figure out. Instead of going to Costco, I decided I'll
stay here because Kirsten called and said, well, at two
o'clock we can go pick up like a cookie cake,
which is.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Really close there.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
So then it's like, well, I don't want to go
there and back there and back, so let me just
wrap it all in anyway. So that's you guys living
that we're all kind of going through the logistics that
Tyson's got a bunch of stuff coming up as well,
which is why we're shooting extra episodes because we love
you guys and we're here for it. So I will
admit I was not very prepared. I did not realize
(07:42):
it was my turn to bring a question, so we
all kind of spitballed. William brought it a great question
which I like and I'm going to take because it's
my week, which is all your best days behind you,
and maybe how do you define best days would be
another way to look at it, because we've talked about
this before in terms of like goals and where you are,
and you know, fifteen years ago when you set the
(08:04):
goals or even maybe just maybe they weren't goals on
a sheet of paper, but in your brain you were like,
by the time I'm forty five, this is roughly what
my life will look like. And we all basically confess
it's not where we are in our life and is
that okay?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Is it not?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
So along those same lines, I think this is something
that comes up and for me, this is an interesting
question because I'm really looking forward to, like what is
the next part of the chapter of my life.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I'm a social media content creator.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I work with brands and organizations, but that's really unstable,
as anyone in the freelance or sales world knows. You
could have a great year, you could have a terrible year,
good month, bad month, all this kind of stuff, And
so I've really been thinking about investing in like basically
buying a self served car wash. And it's so like outlandish,
but I wanted a brick and mortar. I want something
(08:51):
that kind of aligns with what I love, which are automobiles.
I'm a car journalist as well, so something like in
that world that intersects car culture and car service and
something that's basically a large vending machine from the standpoint
of like I don't have to pay a manager to
be there every day.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I don't need special license to sell stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I would love to do a coffee shop maybe eventually,
but then you're getting into you know, like the food
people have to come out make sure everything's sanitary, and
there's OSHA and you got all these things posted, and
so there's a lot of I was doing some research.
There's a lot of boomers. We're basically like, I'm kind
of done. I want to get out of this, and
so some of these are for sale. So I've been
looking at that and looking into it, and so it's
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kind of like I'm excited by the potential of that,
which sounds really odd because it's like a car wash.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
But you know, there's something about the new it's.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
A new adventure. It's always it's like a reset on
whatever stuff you're doing. I excited about that stuff all
the time.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, So I think that kind of plays into that
question a little bit too.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You guys know, Tyson, obviously you've had a really checkered past.
You've had a bunch of variety from from pro from
pro cycling, the survivor obviously and the greatest pickleball player
the world has ever known.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yep, there it is flex, just the off screen flex.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And of course William, you know, in terms of where
you thought you'd be and what you're doing now, and
you know, all that kind of stuff. So yeah, a
good question for you guys, and I'll kind of chime
in after that.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Sure. Well, yeah, I brought the question because I'm turning
forty on Wednesday of this week, two days. In two days,
will you be in Mexico for forty I'll be on
a boat swimming with sharks searching for coler whales. Oh
and yeah, so I've got a good plan for my birthday.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But and that's cool because, like I've told you, i'll
come intern for you whenever you want. But I didn't
hear about the mix good trip until it was already.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
It's too late.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, as last minute, I just had to get out
of town.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Right around tax sees that I got to leave the
country for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, okay, yeah, with my birthday coming up, I'm just
like you know, I've talked about it a lot on
this podcast, but I thought that I would have more
kids at this time. I lost my house in the divorce,
so like it's I'm a single dad. These are all
these things that I never imagined, Like I thought I
would have three kids, a wife, a house of my own.
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But that's not even it either.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's also just a question real quick about that we
just pleasely talked about new chapters and new adventures. Is
there any part of you that, as that was happening,
was a little bit excited to face the unknown or
the adventure or the challenge, even just the challenge and
maybe not adventures maybe too positive of a word, but
the challenge of that. Was there any part of you
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that was in yourself again like I got this, I'm
gonna like take it head on.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And absolutely, and it comes in phases. So there's definitely
moments where so excited and you know, excited for getting
back into things that I did before the marriage, before
the family life, all of that, but everything just moves
and such weird ways, and like grief too, grief like
after the divorce, there's different phases where you know, you
(12:05):
miss your partner, you miss the family, you miss the stability,
and it comes in waves. And then like right now
it's more like I miss, well, not miss but I'm
bummed out that I don't have the house and I'm
sad that we didn't have more kids. So yeah, it
comes in waves, and I'm trying to get back to
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that point where I'm like excited about this future and
talking about resets like I'm turning forty, it's a new decade.
I got this new house, so I'm at a great
point right now to reset. But it's so different trying
to reset on relationships and family at this point, at
this age, especially with the kids. Like part of me
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is like, I still really really want to have more kids,
and then part of me is like, fuck, I'm tired,
and like I don't know if I could actually handle
having another kid, And how long would it take to
find a partner that I to have a kid with.
What about having like a step kid, finding a partner
with a daughter or son already, Like there's a lot
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of things. My sister she has a step kid and
a son, and she met her partner when he was
forty years old and then they had their son. So
I know it's not impossible you have more kids, but
it's a lot and it's hard to It's very different
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being excited about like all these things that I always
wanted at this age because of being so busy, because
of not having the energy that I used to have. Yeah,
so that's why I'm just kind of wondering, Like I mean,
not really wondering, but sometimes when I'm feeling down I
feel like fuck, like it's all the best things are done,
(13:53):
Like I've already done all of the best things in
my life, Like what else is there? Like it's it
becomes Groundhog's day, it becomes like a daily grind sometimes
where's the same shit over and over again? And when
I feel depressed, like I think that, man, whatever, now
it's just getting through life, getting through the days. Whereas
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I used to be so excited about everything, and that's
only in the baddest days, the worst days, but it's still.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
They're still there.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
First first time in my life I've never thought about like, hey,
is this like are the best stays behind me? Or
can it still be really good? So that's why I
wanted to bring the question you guys and Bradley, I'm
glad that you thought it was interesting. You want to
jump on it too.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I'll yeah, I think a lot about what is the best.
I think about relationships, how we always remember the good
and then, like you go back some journals from years ago.
I was going through storage and stuff that like my
parents were like take this out of the basement, please,
you don't want this here. I was like, great, So
I was going through stuff that I totally forgot about.
(14:58):
And Kirsten, my wife, has an amazing memory. She remembers everything.
She's like, I remember that guy and like I liked him,
but he didn't like me back. And then there's this
guy and I liked him and like I embarrassed him
in front of these people.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I don't remember that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I barely remember anything. And she's like, how did you
feel when blah blah. I'm like, I don't even did
that even happen. I don't even know what you're.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Talking about, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I don't log the feel like I loged the thing usually.
So I went back and I looked at stuff, and
I was like, oh man, I was a mess in
my twenties. Like the idea of like my best days
are behind me is like really interesting when you look
at I just I was like, I was a lot
more nervous. I was not as self assured. I was
worried because I didn't have I was so green right
(15:40):
like I was. I wouldn't say sheltered. I did some
stuff that was really great for me In college. I
did a study abroad, which was massive. I moved around
a little bit post college, just to like just because I.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Could, and there were things like that that really grew
me up.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
But that was like those those were fun times in retrospect,
but it's almost like scary times in the middle of it.
You know, it's kind of funny to look back on that.
I don't know, Tyson, how did you feel about that
if you look back on kind of how what your
mindset was back in your glory days of sleeping in
in Europe and biking for two hundred miles.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, I mean physically I was at my peak from
like twenty six to thirty.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
No backfat was that's covered last last week ago.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Suction cup to a water slide for sure. No, yeah,
super lane felt great, had all the energy, could do
anything physically that I ever even wanted. Like you could
be like we should just go jog for ten hours.
I was like, yeah, no problem, may as well have
Nathon just woke up, haven't trained, let's go, Yeah, no problem.
(16:46):
And so that definitely I missed, but I don't miss
it enough to try and get in shape like that now.
So I just would magically like to be in that
goodive shape without doing anything. But I think, like what
William said is like the monotony of the grind, and
you know it's the same day in and out, and like,
(17:06):
are currently Yeah, I mean that's kind that can be
like the feeling of it as you're doing some of
these things right now in life. But I think that
when you look back, you're like, oh, those were the
best days. I did all the things. I did everything
I wanted. I accomplished all these things. Like I did
(17:27):
things I never even thought would Like I had no
plans to go on Survivor and win and do all
of that. And so now when I think of where
I'm at, I'm like, oh, I accomplished way more than
I even set out to do, and way different, and
like I was a pro psychlist. I lived in Europe
(17:48):
for a long time, I swam in college, went on
a Mormon mission, and lived in the Philippines for a
couple of years, been all over the world, been on
Survivor four times, just like all these things. So now
when I take a step back, I'm like, I did
all the things and more like I got extra credit.
And now the thing that is good for the thing
(18:11):
that I want to do is make sure that my
kids get extra credit too. So even though it may
be monotonous for me. Now it's new and exciting and
another chapter for my kids, and I may be reliving
some of those chapters in some capacity and be like
I've already been here, I've already done this, but my
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kids haven't. And so if I can just put myself
in that mindset of like my chapters and adventures now
are to make sure that my kids get the most
out of their chapters and adventures.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Definitely, And that's a different thing about going into my
forties verse going to my thirties or something like I
I just want to set up rowing too and like
have the best life life for her. So I don't
know how to say it, but basically, like these things
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that I thought.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I don't know how to say this. Sorry, I'm out.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I really thought that was Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Kind of what I mean is like a lot of
the things that I thought would be the best thing
you can do in your life, adventure all this Now
I feel like those things have to be behind me
because I'm more interested in creating stability for my daughter
and making this better future. And some of that does
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come with like the monotony and like doing the same
thing day in and day out, so that's where it
comes into, like, well, should I have my chance to
do all these things for myself. Now that's in the past,
and now I got to just make a stable environment
for my daughter and make money for her. And is
that going to be boring or is that and to
be rewarding for having the family and everything?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I feel that because but I also I also asked
myself sometimes like and we've talked about this too, kind
of like that element of do I genuinely want to
be back in that place of the grind or the
hustle or the whatever, or is it just like and
like trade that for where I am, you know, Like
and it's okay, I think to arrive at the basically
(20:28):
I'm here to make their life better. If that's a
genuine I am there, I'm not fighting anything internally, then
I think that's a great place to be. But I
also think it's okay to be like, ah, yeah, but
like I still want to do this thing or that thing.
You know we've talked about, like the whole SNL thing,
right like if SNL came knocking on the door today,
and because that's some that was like an ever dream
(20:49):
for me, which like could you met, like that would
be deep. But if they came and they were like, hey,
we want you to be a cast member and be
like I can't do that. I mean maybe I would
try to find a way, but like it would actually
be not as fun because I actually want to be here.
I want to be in my kids' lives, I want
to be with my wife, I want to be in
this stage in the life. So you know, from that standpoint, too,
(21:09):
is like I'm glad that I'm genuinely there. Like I
remember when I first moved to La it was like
my dreams and goals. Everything was about acting, casting director workshops,
meet agents, like stay up late, read the trades. It
was like I was going full tilt and and like
I was fine just eating beans and rice.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
It's like, because it's about the career, let's go.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Baby, let's go, and you know, and then eventually I
got to the place where it was kind of like
I you know, people are like, what's your dream, Like
that's my dream, that's my dream. My dream now is
like providing for my family. That's why I want to
own a car wash, like you know, or like that's
why I you know, at sometimes I feel like an
idiot when I'm shooting a video for a brand that's
(21:50):
like it's a little pet store and little Atlanta or Fayetteville,
Georgia or whatever, and I'm kind of like, aren't I
better than this?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I'm shooting video of like a dog getting a bath,
like this was not in the equation.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
But then it's like, but the end goal of that
is putting food on the table, and I'm more now
passionate about that than growing my individual career. And that's
that's come to me slowly through time. But it kind
of sounds like that's what you're kind of asking, Slash saying, William, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And what's tricky about that is like, for me, growing
my career is how I will also ride for Rowan,
you know, right right, and with being an underwater photographer,
like traveling more is better for my career, but it's
worse for Rowan. And it's a weird life that I've
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put myself in where I am a professional underwater photographer
living in the suburbs of Denver, Colorado, you know, trying
to figure all this out.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So that alone says everything. That dichotomy there is great.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, and it is really exciting too, Like I am
getting a little bit more excited for this next next decade,
and there's parts of being a single dad that I
really do love. And you had a really great point, Bradley,
is that a lot of times, you know, everything is
rosier in the past, Like you don't remember the bad
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parts as much as you remember the well, depending on
what it is, a lot of times you only focus
on the best parts of it. And I think that
that is really true. I think that I have a
habit of sugarcoating the past and glorifying it. And that's
part of why I'm coming to this question of like, wow,
is every is anything going to be ever as good
(23:40):
as it was back then? Because it probably wasn't as
good as I'm remembering it like, and it could be
a lot better in the future.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So well, it's different too, like your your goals and
aspiration shift, Whereas like when I was younger, it was
like how lean can I get and how much more
dominant and an endurance sport and I be? And what
is the line between being an asshole and being likable?
Because I'm going to toe that as tight as possible,
(24:09):
Whereas now it's like for my family, yeah, drinking some
amazing landscape panoramas in person, and when I can and
see as much different wildlife as possible, and both of
those things, the panoramas and the wildlife. Most of the
time I would prefer to share it with my family.
Some of the time I want to see it by myself,
(24:30):
but most of the time that right, family too. And
so it's like it's so much different than so different
than fifteen years ago, where it was like I have
different objectives, and now it's like literally like if we
can get somewhere and I can see an amazing sunset
(24:51):
on a hill I've never been on before, you know,
once a month or something, then I'm like, that's pretty good.
I'm still doing it. So I just think it's it's
so much different. And when your kids are there, like
that's the whole goal of it. That's the new adventure
is making sure because I can't even like I try
(25:12):
to put myself in my kid's head, but it's like,
remember how excited kids were when they're young. Rowans still
might be there every time an airplane goes by, that's me. Yeah,
you can see.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
When you're a helicopter or an airplane full step side,
I'm excited to see what that is.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
If it's a helic.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Driving past horses or cows or anything, and and you're like,
oh yeah, no, more cows. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's more cows.
That's what how we eat. That's where we get our
hamburgers from. That's hilarious. But that's like, uh, I think,
like you have to understand that for them, these things
can be very very very exciting, and I don't even
(25:52):
understand how exciting it is. One thing, when I took
the girls to Vegas to do their synchronized swimming competition
and do their hair Bergen, it was a regional to
qualify for Junior Olympics, and the top three teams that
regionals qualified for Junior Olympics. They took second, so they
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qualified for Junior Olympics. There were two teams. There were
only two teams. The team was so excited, and I
didn't understand. I feel so bad for not understanding how
excited Bergen was that they qualified. In my mind, I
was like, you took last place, also took a second.
I didn't say like you lost. I just was like
it's kind of like it's kind of you know, like
(26:37):
it negates itself in a way and you're like, okay, cool,
we did it, Like that's would be my attitude. She
immediately got on her phone texted her friend's pictures of
her with her medal, oh wow, and saying we qualified.
I qualified for Junior Olympics. She was so excited. She
didn't share that excitement with me, so I didn't hype
it properly, and so I felt really bad about not
(26:58):
hyping it properly right after it happened and on the
way home. I've since been way more hype about it
around her because I realized just from because I see
her texts to her friends, I realized how pumped she was,
and she's super stoic anyways, so like I would never
(27:18):
really get that read on her anyways. So I think
that was a good check for me to be Like,
kids find things very exciting, things that you don't even
think are exciting. They get senses of accomplishment from things
that you can't even fathom they would, and so you
need to like that is part of your goal is
(27:40):
making sure that they're getting the ample hype and love
and recognition of those not only accomplishments, but those unique
things in life. Like we took the kids to go
swhen with the Well Sharks a couple of years ago.
They loved it. We loved it. It was amazing. They
were super stoked on it. And I could tell there
was were stoked on that. But like some stuff you
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just can't and you just have to assume sometimes that
they are trying to put yourself in their shoes.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
So your kids are going to hit like like eighteen
and they'll be like, They'll be sitting having coffee and
be like.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Are our best days behind it? We swam with Weale.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Sharks, we went to we qualified for Junior Olympics. Like,
what an amazing childhood like to have some of these
great moments, you know. For me, it was like we're
going to Grandma's again, you know. And it was like,
but my kids have no clue of that. They have
no concept like all the cool stuff they get to do.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But that's I think it's cool. But that's the thing
is that to them it's so cool. It doesn't have
to be anything big.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Like, no, always forget about that. I always like go
all out for stuff. Yeah, even though the smallest things
can make rown just so excited and happy.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, cardboard box as a toy versus a.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Every dollar get Christmas. Right, the thing out, it was
like I want to play with this box.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
But that really is the mindset of like, it's not
it's not the quality that of the thing you do,
it's it's how you make it for them and and
understanding their perception of it.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
So I also think for you, William, I could see
a time when then Rowan is is accompanying you on
some of these dives.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
No, I'm the intern. Nice try Bradley, you can carry
you can carry hers.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Actually you'll be carrying Shiloh's stuff and Rowan and then
and then Williams as well, and then to show up.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, Like we went to Bonair together last year. This
year we're going to Curseol in August and she models
for me, She does some underwater photography with me, swims
with me, and that's going to just keep getting better
and better and more awesome. And that is something that
I'm really excited for. Honestly, badly, I think that just
bringing stuff into perspective about everything is sugarcoated in the past,
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and it's not like that. And there's a lot of
stuff that I'm really excited for in my forties, like
being more developed as a person, being more stable financially,
and then incorporating Rowan into more of my adventures and
more of like my life are really exciting. It's just
(30:32):
really scary as far as finding a partner and trying
to decide, like these are like real ass decisions that
I've never had to make when I was younger, Yeah,
or because I just didn't like it didn't bother me. Now,
like I didn't realize how much I was going to
love having kids and want having kids until, like you
(30:54):
know now, honestly, Like I was with my family up
in the mountains this weekend with my nieces and nephews.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Texted to some photos. Yeah, you guys seem like you're
having a blasts all fun.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, doing stick topper. Yeah, I mean roaming through the
woods killing hot dog beasts and cooking them on an
open grill. And and just I just love kids so much,
and I really really, like, more than ever in my life,
I want to have more kids. And I'm at a
point now where it's like, fuck, if I'm going to
do that, I have to do that. So is it
(31:26):
better to like spend effort and time trying to do
that or is it better to be thankful for having
Rowan in the life that I have and how to
balance those two things?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, decisions right, already carrying the bag, You're already gonna.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Be there as well.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah. My sister was actually like, you know, you could
adopt a single dad. Adopting I don't know about that, but.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
That's that's a big lift on so many levels, just
like it is really adding a new baby. I mean,
I definitely felt like with Loick, whom we adopted, just
being like this is why people had kids when they're
like twenty three and twenty four. It's exactly getting woken
up in the middle of the night at forty one
or forty two and you're just like, what what is he?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
No, my body doesn't work like this anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I'm in great shape, and I'm still exhausted at the end,
like he just goes and I've got a lot of energy.
Everybody was always like I was doing cartwheels in the
morning at like six o'clock, just like outside. I had
tons of energy. I was like always that guy. People
always like, how are you still awake? How are you
still up?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
And I was just like let's go and that has
served me well. But I mean just the the sheer
energy it takes to and also just like sometimes there's
like I'm a grown ass man. I don't want to
be doing this. This is not for me, you know
what I mean. So, but I also think what's good.
You guys can can speak to this too. The older
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you get, the if you can just maintain like an averageness,
you rise above the competition so quickly.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So all this time you're the hot guy at dinner
in the restaurant you walk into. You were never that guy.
You're not even doing anything. You're just like you're just
in shape and like a nice person and everyone's like
he's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, that's us three defines us three.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, so can you guys tell me then the best
days are not behind me?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Right? Yeah, the best days are not behind you. But
those also weren't worst days anyway. There's not better day,
there's they're all good days. I mean, they're not all
good days, but you have good days in the future.
They're just different days. They're different than what you your
definition of a good day was back then. So like
I saw a bird with that had like a really
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red chest and a red face in my backyard yesterday,
fucking pump me up. You know, I don't know if
fifteen twenty years ago that would have really had the
same effect on me.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I doubt it. Yeah, so I think you would have
been married to Rachel. I think she'd walk right past
into year old bird geet. Yeah, that's cool. I think
I'm just gonna go to head over this right help
me big red.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
It was red.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
You don't see that kind of color.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
You don't see that kind of color in the United
States that often.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
That's pantone eight seven four.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You didn't know that?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, yeah, uh so, yeah, that's my my I mean takeaway.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Is the encouragement. I think there's an encouraging moment to
this for all of us. I think it's encouragement just
different days.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
They're different days, and a lot of those days aren't
you trying to seek out your best day, but it's
trying to create the best day.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
For your future?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yes, under so stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Did any other takeaways from that besides that, I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Gonna think about your forties. How's the forties going, dude?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Forties are great?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Forties are good. I I I don't know if it's
just that my I'm a narcissist or what, but I'm like,
I could be in the best shape of my life
if I wanted to in six months, if you just
challenged me to do it, for sure, I can easily
do it.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
And so I don't feel like this consciously, I don't.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
All but like.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Anything, like there's stuff I know I can't do, but
like I'm not to the point where I'm like, oh,
I can never do that. I'm to the point where
I'm like, yeah, I can do it if I want it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I just don't want to.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I just don't need to put I don't want to
put six hours a day into any into getting there.
And so like that my body, I just went in
for my physical I had my colon colonoscopy thing like
the colon where I sent it in passed with flying colors, exemplary.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And so it's like all those things are just like, Okay,
I feel good, I move pretty good. I don't have
any like reoccurring aches.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
And means ah, oh yeah that was a fire alarm.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, And so I feel Yeah, so I think and
it's different for everybody, but like Bradley said, we're average
e fitness guys and we're you know, they kind of
stay we stay active, we stay pretty fit, and I
think that's going to go a long way into the
future because I look at people, like I met a
(36:26):
dude the other day that was like, you're only three
years younger than me, and I was like, yeah, I'm
surprised too. Now you set, you're that's crazy because you
look like you are seventy.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
That's it's it, and.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
That's wherever you go. So I think being able to
just move normal when you're in your forties and fifties
is going to put you head and shoulders above anything.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
All right, I want to do this. Don't give too
much away, Tyson. I want to do an episode. Maybe
this will be our next episode. Listen, so listen up, Tyson.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
You and I both.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Individually bring maybe five bits of advice to someone entering
forty William, and then we'll kind of clear those with you.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
William.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
We'll just like, bring this is these are my five things,
and then Tyson, these will be your five things or whatever,
and then maybe let's also We're also put out a
post on social couple posts if you guys out there
have advice for William entering forty. It's a big one.
Whether you're in there or you've heard advice or whatever.
I think that'll be really interesting. I'd love to hear
(37:33):
some of that stuff too, because I've got thoughts, but
I want to save them for our next episode because
I think this will be really interesting. You only do
it once, William only turn forty once, so we're going
to make it a big deal.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
We are going to make it a big deal.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Hopefully. I am swimming with killer whales on my birthday,
maybe watching them destroy a whale shark right in front
of me, and I'll just think about Tyson and as kids.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
And no do kill or wells pray on wal sharks.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It's all then seeing a couple of times, and only recently,
but yeah, this is amazing because what they think that
they do is because whale sharks have the strongest, like
thickest skin out of any fish, so whale sharks can't
really get at them, can't really rip them up. So
what they think that they do is that they wrap
(38:20):
their lips around their private parts, around their people, suck
their guts out from their butthole.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, everybody has their things, circle of everybody.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
The best days are behind him.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
My best days are now behind me. This is the
turning point in my life. I've actually heard that before because.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I, yeah, I probably told you that.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You might have told me. You might have told me,
and I don't know where else you would get that information.
Guy too though, So I see like my Google, my
Google news feed is filled wild life stories, cyclings, updates,
and camera.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Equip Oh, we should do that for an episode two
where we just talk about like what's on your FYP?
What are their social media trying to serve you? I
think that's interesting, good way to know something.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I also want to hear from the listeners how their
forties are going, what they think about their forties compared
to their thirties. Yeah, and if they I mean, I've
heard from a lot of forty somethings that forties are
awesome and they're loving them. Yeah, so that's encouraging. And
if they're not awesome, that's okay. You can share that too, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Please do all right, that'll do it here at Midlife Crisises.
We will be back next week. See, so thank you
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