July 7, 2025 • 38 mins
The Midlife Crisisses are out celebrating the holiday weekend! On today's episode, we go back in time as Tyson Apostol (@tysonapostol) Bradley Hasemeyer (@bhaz) and William Drumm (@williamdrumm) discuss discuss feeling old, what it takes to stay healthy into your 40s, and the role sleep plays in your productivity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Age wise, like do you feel old? You notice your
body shutting down. I don't go to the doctor for
fear of them telling me that I have a finite
amount of time.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
When do you become a man? Society is like, all right,
you can become a man at eighteen, but then you
turn eighteen and you're like, I a man? I got right.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Sleep is literally the antidote to death. I wanted to
pack everything I could into a twenty four hour period,
grab life by the horns, live it to the fullest.
I'm gonna go to bed at nine thirty and feel
amazing when I wake up.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah. So when I went to Canada where we all
first met, there was part of me that wanted to
stop at the gift shop in the airport and by
all Canada stuff. Yes, when I roll into the group meet,
I have just the like red and white with maple
leaves all over my everything.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I have, Oh my gosh, you you would instantly. You
don't judge a book by its cover, but everyone would
be judging you right as you rolled up, just like, hey, guys,
I'm here in Canada. This is great that this is
your neck.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
A map of physical map in one hand, what.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Do you think people who were judging me would think.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They would think this guy is extra. I'm I going
to create a little distance. I definitely don't want to
get in a conversation with this guy. He's going to
keep me talking about nothing for forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, and they would be right at least as far
as talking about nothing for me.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That's that's why we have the podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Have the podcast, and it's not about nothing about midlife
crisises b. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Was when we were driving down and you were talking
to the bus driver. Yeah, like two hours you just
didn't want to hear any of it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And I was sleeping in the back. I was like,
I went to sleep, you were talking. I woke up,
you were talking.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It was so funny.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
When we were going home from dinner, man, I was
so wiped, and he kept hinting that he didn't want
to keep talking, and I just kept going.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
He kept using those like wow, all right, well thanks
for that talk, and you're like speaking of that and
he's like, he's.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Probably a diet coke for dinner or something. That's why
I was so oh And I was on bear watch,
So I'm just trying to find bears.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And then you woke up three hours later to go
on a sunrise ish hike.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Where I continued talking to the people who didn't want
to talk at that time.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, that's actually why I chose not to go on
that hike. I was like, well, he's just going to
keep talking.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
The thing is, I know that they're bugged, but it
makes it like more enjoyable for me for some reason.
I don't know why it is, but like, if if
you don't want to be talked to, oh yeah, you
push into that. I pushed into that really hard. And yeah,
(02:52):
and if there's like a couple people that don't want it,
like if everybody was sleeping. So I was quietsh enough
in that van, and I thought, but I knew that
the old guy didn't want it, but I gave him
a tip. Dude, I give him a hundred.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Dollars bill, Dude, I would have listened to you for
a hundred bucks.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's pretty sweet.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Plus, look, that was also you were being Papa Bear,
because that guy's got to stay awake and alert driving
all of us home, So you were just also just helping,
you know, the group there.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So I was in a passenger seat. That is my
duty is to make sure.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
The passenger princess. Yeah, you had to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Did you give him one hundred dollars bill because you
knew that you were bothering the whole time? Or yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Was it a Canadian undred? Because if not, you gave
him more. You gave him more than US one hundred. Yeah,
US hundred. I think the last step he's ever got
one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah. I mean he was hinting at tips the whole
time to everybody. But I think also that the budget
also paid him a tip already. I'm sure, Yeah found
out afterwards. I regretted my decision. I could have a
cool Hundi in my wallet right now, dude. Uh but yeah,
let's get into it. We are the midlife crisis is
(04:00):
there's three crisises here at Radleys. I always have a
hard time with your name because you say it's pronounced
one way, but that you want it pronounced another way,
or it used to be or something. We're trying to
change the pronunciation a little bit. So what is the
real pronunciation?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
What do you want us to say?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Okay? Bradley has a Meyer like like possession of Oscar
Meyer has a Meyer. That's the easiest way to say it.
When I growing up and even now and I didn't
realize it. I leaned toward the hard s to a Z,
which is a little more German. This is hawesome. Ayah
Hasamaya ah yeah, yeah, you know it's Rocknzy the nine.
(04:39):
You know it's that my parents, it was. It was
a soft s, has Samire, has Samyr, But I like
has Zemyr, like with a Z. So what are we
saying has Zamier my parents?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Is me?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I set the tone? Okay, live crisis that dude.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I have never heard of somebody changing the pronunciation of
their last name just.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It wasn't intentional. It was like one day someone was like, oh,
I thought you said Hassemeiro and I was like, I
don't think so, and my parents were like, yeah, it's
Hassemeiro and I was like, oh well so yeah. So
that's why on Instagram I'm b has haz because it's
like how I pronounce haza Meyer got it? And it's Bradley.
(05:21):
I tried Brad Brad was way too cool for me.
I'm just good old like, ah shucks, Bradley, and so
I'm sticking with that.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, I like that. And William Drum also named Confusion
because he goes by Bill to his closest dearest friend.
So off of this podcast, Bradley and I would call
you Bill here, we call you William for more professional reasons,
so that the audience knows you as William. Yeah. Is
that all correct?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That's all correct?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
On all right, William?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
All right, William?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So weird hearing it though?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Is it weird coming out of my mouth after all
the talking you heard me doing Canada?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yes, here's what makes a midlife crisis great.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Though.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Crisises are all about changing in the moment, adjusting and adapting.
If you hate us calling you William after a while,
we probably won't stop because we'll know you hate it.
But yes, we in our hearts, we will know we should.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Just for the record, correct. The premise of this show
is to address our midlife crisis, is talk about that
going on in our lives, and so each week one
of us comes up with a question. Last week we
talked about being surrounded by death.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's morbid.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Bradley stepp into the room.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I call him morbid, has Amayer, that's right. And this
week I wanted to kind of lighten the tone a
little bit, but stay on that same like mortality conversation.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, I'm forty five. That's a midlife to a ninety
year old, like exactly in the middle, which ninety is
above the age. I still feel invincible at this point,
Like I still don't feel like I'm gonna die, Like
I haven't had an experience close enough to death yet.
I don't go to the doctor for fear of them
(07:13):
telling me that I have a finite amount of time.
And so like I'm like, oh, I can't breathe through
my nose, and that's been going on for two years.
It's probably it's fine. So my question is this, and
(07:34):
I mean even further on Instagram, I'm getting bombarded with
like supplements to make you youthful, like injections, like you
give yourself your own injections. Now what hair loss like supplements?
You know all of it. And and so my question
(07:55):
is this is do you feel the same as you
did ten, fifteen, twenty years ago or do you feel
different age wise? Like do you feel old? Do you
notice your body shutting down? Are there moments where you're like,
I'm gonna fucking die, like I will die event like
this is one step closer to death, I can feel it.
(08:20):
Or are you still in that sweet spot where you're
like I still feel like I could crush anybody younger
than me at anything athletic, like what is? What are
your feelings? And how long until death gets us? You
don't have to answer that last one, but yeah, I
want to.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Hear from William because he's the younger of all three
of us. Yes, because he may either be able to say, like,
I remember my you're how are you again? Williaman thirty nine,
he's going to be forty. Man been forty. I can't
believe it. It's been so long, scar of us. Yeah, I
actually love I actually really like getting older. But I
(09:02):
I and I'll talk more about that in a second.
But I'm really curious how William feels because also William
lives a life that's a lot more on the edge,
that's a lot more face to face with what you
and I, Tyson, just regular folk would consider dangerous as
a professional diver, as someone who travels a lot more
and he goes to these remote places. Last time we
talked about like you know, sleeping and sleeping bags with
(09:24):
some crocodiles, or.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
They weren't in the sleeping bag, but.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They were right close enough if they were here on
this deserted island. If something goes south, you're dead, you know,
Like I'm not living in that realm yet I'm waking
up with a sore knee and trying to figure out why.
So I'm trying to So I'm curious, William, your perspective
on that.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
To start with, Well, I would say that, like you're saying,
how you really like getting older, I do think that
I'm starting to feel kind of the same way about that,
in that, like all of these years of doing things,
I feel like it was hard to like absorb the
wisdom that you get out of all these things. And
then once you start getting older, like you learn the
(10:02):
same lessons over and over again, and then they kind
of get ingrained in you and you and you start
getting wiser. So you, guys, you're pretty old, so you're
probably way wiser.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
So wise, congratulations, I would say that I definitely notice,
like the obvious things as far as like it takes
longer to bounce back after doing like a big trip
like that where I'm going super hard like it used
to be able to get back in town and I
was fine the next day to do whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Now like I gotta I gotta rest up a little bit,
take my time, like eat better and yeah, and that's
another big thing too. I think I don't feel like
I'm like that much older than I was and ten
years ago most of the time. But I do feel
like things like eating good and exercise like are really
important now and if I don't do those things then
(10:53):
I feel like crap. Whereas back in the day, I
could just do whatever, yeah, gone stop and feel fine
and not worry about it. Now, Like I mean my
stomach like if I if I don't eat good, I'll
have heartburn for days, and and like exercise, if I
don't exercise, I get like more tired. And so yeah,
I definitely feel like I'm a little bit older. But
(11:15):
it's really interesting thing because I've always thought about, like
when do you become a man?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Like, you know, that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Society is like, all right, you become a man at eighteen,
but then you turn eighteen, you're like, am I a man? Like?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Right? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I don't really feel like I am.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I don't know. What it is mortgage still.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, Now you see an eighteen year old and you're like,
Jesus Christ, look at how a little that guy is. Hey, yeah,
pinch his cheeks, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So then I'll like, William over here, come here, come here, And.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Then I would say that now that I'm almost forty,
I feel like I'm finally like, oh, maybe I am
actually like becoming a man after all of this time
where oh I'm a boy still like I'm of your
old boy. But whatever it might be. Uh So, yeah,
I do think I'm getting older. I still feel youthful
at times, but my body definitely lets me know that, Yeah,
(12:09):
I ain't twenty anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I think you bring up something that only recently I've
I have come to terms with, which is you know,
I think there's a number of anybody listening to this
and us as well, can can instantly highlight one or
two things that come to their brain about like what
it's like to get older, right, could you metabolism? Can't
eat like I used to, William, you brought up the
idea of like rebound, you know, like I joke with
(12:33):
my friends like I was I was, you know, running
after some kids in the neighborhood and we were playing
football and I caught them. But then the next day
I was.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Actually chasing them. They's steal something from you.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
No, we were just like hanging around like playing uh,
and but they were running full speed and I caught them. Yeah,
make here with me, trash bag, and my hamstrings were
like what I didn't couldn't even move. The next I
was like, what happened? Like did someone slice my You know,
there's that. But I think for me that one of
(13:04):
the things that I'm learning to do is embrace sleep.
Like my friend was telling me about this Ted talk
he saw, and it was all about like how sleep
is literally the antidote to death. Like what happens in
your body over the hours that you're sleeping there recouping
that either it's rebuilding of muscle, it's repairing tissue damage,
it's resetting your brain. But when I was younger man
(13:24):
in college, it was all about like what's the smallest
amount I could do? Like if I could stay up
and it wasn't even bad stuff. It was like if
I could study until two am, then I could get
up at six and go for a run and then
be at my eight o'clock class. It was like I
wanted to pack everything I could into a twenty four
hour period. Grab life by the horns, live it to
the fullest. And I think my wife has always been
(13:47):
a great sleeper, Like yeah, you know, I was like, oh, hey,
you know we first started dating. I was like, oh,
so I was thinking like eight o'clock breakfast, and she's like,
can we do eleven. I'm like, I'm having lunch at eleven,
so I don't know, you know, And I'm like, I've
already done like fifteen things before lunch. And she's like,
you know, being a mom, obviously that changes things. But
I just kind of ran from the idea of sleep.
(14:08):
It seemed lazy, it seemed unnecessary. Oh if I could
just go through my day and not sleep, I could
get so much more done. And I feel like over
the past four or five years, I've embraced that idea
of like I'm going to you know what, I'm not
going to stream five shows tonight. I'm gonna go to
bed at nine thirty and feel amazing when I wake up,
you know. And to me, that's a little bit of
like I feel like the question too, of like when
(14:30):
do we become a man. I think the definition of
like what is a man? I think is always kind
of like floating out there too. And you know it
used to be like the go hard, nothing stops you,
nothing can preventce you. You're invincible, right, Tyson, that was
your original question. Yeah, and I think I've embraced the
idea that I'm not and I need things like sleep,
like vitamins. I had this great moment, this great la moment.
(14:51):
I just turned thirty. So on the pre pref well
prefs precipice, there's the word on the precipice of this
big new change in my life. And I'm at my
doctor's office and doing it, just having a physical, you know,
routine kind of you know, every year kind of physical.
And he looks at me and he says, we need
to talk, and he shuts the door. He comes back
in with his you know, his clipboard and pen and everything,
(15:16):
and I'm like, okay, so I have cancer. Clearly this
is going to be what he's going to say. So
he looks at me very sternly and he says, do
you realize you're losing your hair? And it's such a
great LA moment of like you should think about botox
at twenty two because you know, and I was like,
whoa doc? I, you know, and he's like, and it's
(15:38):
really serious. You need to get ahead of this. And
I'm like, yeah, okay, fine, that's great. But I'm living
right like there's no you know, and so it's like,
I gotta take my Yeah, I can just lead to
oh no, I won't book rolls. I'll be the guy
without hair. Oh no, you know, but I gotta take
my vitamins. I gotta do my things. I gotta. And
I've also put in I'm not invincible in my workout
(15:59):
schedule like I would love, you know, just like I
love working out, I love being active all that. But
I've learning to value rest, which can be all kinds
of things, meditation, sleeping in, taking things off your plate.
Have a day that's not as busy, just as much
as I value the other the working out, the busy,
the travel, right, William. I mean if you go back
(16:19):
to back on like a week you know, diving in,
then a week in the rockies, and you're just going
to be crap by the end of that, there's no
real value. You're diminishing returns on your energy so I
think for me, I've just come to grips with like
maybe that's how it's supposed to be. I mean, you know,
in like the world of you know, the Bible, right
and Jewish Sabbath, like there was a day of rest
(16:41):
that was baked into everything because the idea was, like
you just your body's not made to go that long.
The fuel tank eventually runs out on your car. We
don't have mid driving refueling like you do in the
air in an airplane, Like your car has to stop
for a little bit, it needs to rest for a
few minutes while you get gas. So I kind of
feel that way about myself.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, and I it's so like last month I did.
I went to Bonair for a week, I brought my daughter,
I came back for a day, and then I flew
up to Canada to meet these guys, and then I
flew back down to the Caribbean to Saint Eustatius for
another week after being Denver for only one day, and
then I came back. And you're right, Bradley, I was
(17:22):
like a mess that week that I came back, Like yeah,
like irritable, just couldn't focus like anything, like really bad
so I think that I'm not invincible at all like
I used to be. Like we're talking about it that way,
and it if you don't build in that rest into things,
then it can really like mess you up. It can
(17:43):
affect all kinds of Like I was in a meeting
right after that trip and I got into it with
this person and we started like really getting into it,
like not really like me at all, And it was
just because I've been running so hard for three weeks
straight and no sleep, and then I came back into
this office world, sitting in front of the office all day,
and like I was not in the right headspace. So
(18:05):
if you don't build in that rest, I think it's
it can be really bad. And with work, I've I'm
trying to adjust to not doing what you're talking about, Bradley,
where I just stay up super late like and just
grind on things and like I'm I'm a creative or whatever,
(18:26):
so like I kind of have to follow those creative flows,
and for me, a lot of those to those creative
flows happen in the middle of the night and I'll
work until last weekend. I worked till four thirty am
one day. But I know now that because of getting older,
I can't just bounce back like that, Like I can't
do these crazy grind sessions and then wake up and
then work again the next day. So it's been really
(18:49):
hard trying to figure out how to still keep that
creative energy and like take advantage of that flow state
that you can get in when you're creating without killing
myself the next day. And also being like a single dad,
i have to have a routine for my daughter. So
I've got to get her to school, I've got to
pick her up, I got to take her to dance,
(19:09):
you know, whatever it might be. So it's completely opposite
of how I kind of work naturally, because naturally I'm
staying up super late, working, sleeping in until nine am
or something like that, and then getting it up and
doing it again, having breaks, working again super late at night.
But then I'll get my daughter and it's like, oh, okay,
I've got to get everything done between the time I
(19:31):
take her to school and pick her up, which means
I have to go to bed at a decent time
because I have to be able to focus really well
during that time so I could hit my goals and
still be available for her in the afternoon. So it's
been a huge adjustment. I don't I'm definitely not there yet,
but it's a fun challenge to work on.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, I've always been a sleeper. I I can see that.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
You know, there's just something about you, Dyson that just
reads snooze button.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Now, I think it's your energy level. Your energy level
just keeps going. It's got to come from somewhere. So
you don't strike me as a tired person.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
No, I get tired if I don't get enough sleep.
And but I was a pro athlete. I was a
pro cyclist, and it was like you got to get
your ten hours asleep. You can do it in multiple stages,
like you got to get at least eight or nine
hours at night and then a nap, or you can
do all ten at night. Whatever you try to want
(20:30):
to do, even collegiate swimming. It was like you got
to try and get your your sleep in. And so
that was something I always did and if I didn't,
I bounced back well, and like I could even compete
the next day off of poor sleep. And a lot
of times you get nervous the night before a competition
and you don't sleep very well. Anyways, And I always
(20:55):
thought that I had the best memory in the world.
I have great memory. But when I started getting less
sleep because I have kids, I got to get up
early there, up in the middle of the night sometimes
they need their thing for me, and I don't get
the sleep I need. And then I'm doing my thing
late so that I can catch up on stuff. And
(21:17):
it's that cycle, and then I'm forgetting stuff all the time.
I'm like, I wasn't better than anybody else. I'd just
been getting more sleep than everybody for the last three decades.
And now that I'm not, I'm just an average schmo
schlub on the street with an average memory who forgets
shit like people's last names that I went to high
school with and have been friends with for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Like so, but is that also you getting older? I mean,
is that one of those like my sight is going
my you know, Like, is that part of that you think?
You really attribute It's really just a sleep thing.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I really think it's a sleep thing. I really do,
cause if I do get my sleep for a good
amount of time, then I'm I'm fine. I'm fine with
the memory and stuff. But the second that, like I'm
laughing on that. Then I did notice that I also
wanted to touch on like Bradley, You're you're saying that
like all this sleep reset stuff is important. So would
(22:10):
you say, add ten years to your life, but all
of that is sleep or because I like the e
would you rather are you you're having the same amount
of awake hours? So so yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I mean, I think, you know, it's like it's also
about like the quality and the value of the awake time, right,
Because it's also like, if I'm honest, even when I
was staying up late working, it wasn't great work. It
certainly wasn't efficient. Like if I was editing from you know,
midnight to two, I was half as efficient in those
(22:51):
two hours than I could be from nine to two
in the morning or nine to what eleven in the morning. Right,
So it was also kind of like the reality of
it's not, you know, staying up later isn't like I'm
getting that much more out of life. I'm actually losing more,
I think. So I don't I would say, yeah, I
would say sleep in general, because also when you when
(23:13):
you decide to say I'm human, I'm going to die
one day, I need to be my best self while
I'm here, and you embrace that. I think it trickles
into other aspects to your life, right. It's knowing, oh yeah,
I shouldn't work out five straight days. I need to
take a day off, even if that's humbling, even if
you see other people like with the GYMP seven days,
(23:35):
I run five days, I cycle seven days, like whatever,
You're like, yes, stop grinding. Never mentality.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Never let a millionaires before twenty three? Did you're a
do fist?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I'm sorry? Did I just turn on my Instagram because
that's what I see. That's all I see past, Oh
my gosh, mixed.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
With the testosterone injections and yeah, hair supplements and the
face creams and all that stuff like it just like
my algorithm is like.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
We're doing so much. We're trying to do so much.
I really think sleep is a big Like people are like,
I'm not going to sleep, so I have to do
these nineteen other things. I was pre med in college
and until I failed organic chemistry. But during that time
before I failed and switched over to PR, a classic
moved the PR cliche. In fact, I saw I remember
(24:27):
witnessing an open heart surgery and The amount of equipment
it took for just what a heart does passively was
mind blowing. I mean, you have an entire person devoted
to this monitor as well as like they have to
filter the blood as it's going through because that's what
the heart doesn't pump it as well. I was just like,
that's what that little thing does that I think about,
and I think that's how sleep is a little bit.
(24:47):
It's like, yeah, you can stay up later, but now
you need extra face cream, and you need more coffee,
and you need testosterone because you're not getting enough to
So I don't know. I think sleep is one of
those things that we just as a culture, we don't
really value enough. And it it's something that I always
kind of pushed back against, like oh need that.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Man?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
If I get like five hours of sleep, I'm pretty good.
And then I just realized, you know what, No, I'm
like embracing, like, who was it? Cedric the Entertainer, hilarious comedian.
He had a whole thing one of his specials that
I saw and he's like, I'm a grown ass man,
I'm not going to go do that thing. And I
just like think about that sometimes in my mind, like
(25:25):
you know what. No, I'm a grown ass man. I'm
gonna go to bed at nine thirty. I don't care
what you think. You know, I'm a grown ass man.
I don't need to prove anything to anyone, myself included.
I don't have to grind for six days at the
gym like I'm about to compete in the Olympics. It's like, wait,
what are you doing. You're gonna be sore. Can't even
like carry your kids up the stairs because you like
pulled your back doing unnecessary like clean and jerk, Like
(25:47):
what was the point of that? So, yeah, I don't know.
That's a weird answer to your question. But I think,
to me, that's one of the biggest changes as I've
gotten older and I've accepted that I'm not invincible, and
then so then what what can I do to increase
my invincibility?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I guess, and I think that it's also like super
rewarding when you can accept that and then make changes
based on So last year, I was going to run
a twenty mile race here, and before the race, I
trained super hard. I was like running every day, like
doing big runs, and then like a month before the race,
(26:25):
I went out one night didn't get much sleep, got
up the next day and I tried or I ran
like sixteen or seventeen miles or something like that, and
I just blew out my ankles so bad. And then
I kept on like trying to train for this race.
And then by the time the race came, my ankles
were totally blown out. I couldn't do the race, and
(26:45):
I was kind of like, oh man, can I just
like is my body just too old? Like am I
not able to run? Because I'm just an old man?
But then I just stopped for a couple months, and
then I started like walking every other day, and now
I'd never run two days in a row and it's
and it's worked great and now I'm able to run
and I feel awesome when I do it. So like
(27:07):
if you're able to just kind of keep your age
or whatever it is just like reality and perspective and
then work with it, then it's awesome because it's like, oh, yeah,
I can run. I'm gonna be able to run forever.
I just need to listen to my body. I can't
push it too hard and like I can, you know,
I can get to this great point, but I can't
force it and I have to go slowly towards it.
(27:29):
But as long as I'm working towards it and paying attention,
then I can get there for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I'm even as a pro cyclist throughout my career.
When I was young, or I could train back to
back days, push hard, you know that did my recovery
rate was faster. And later in my career, which was
not a long career, I noticed that, like I had
to take extra days, bruises on my body wouldn't heal
(27:56):
as fast if I was exhausted, all of that stuff,
and I was like, well, this is already happening to me,
but now I feel like I've recovered. So follow up question,
but could you uh, oh, at least in your mind
be as good as you ever were physically if you
(28:21):
had the time and routine to get there.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I could for sure, Yeah, I think so because also
you look at easy.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I think that too. Right now, I'm forty five, but
I'm like one of the guys I raced with just
retired last year. He's forty four when he retired. So now,
like I was like, I could probably if I won,
I could have done that too, And I still could.
I could. I just don't have the time now, I.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Would say, compared to my earlier self, I don't necessarily
know if I could. There's there's plenty of people I
could not beat at various athletic you know, accomplishments. But
from where I was at, you know whatever, in my twenties,
I mean really, your thirties and your forties are like
prime testosterone prime, like like body years in terms of health,
in terms of energy, in terms of all that, and
(29:11):
then it starts to fall off clearly. You know that
as an old forty five year old, you know, I
can see you as we're coasting down. Yeah, but I
actually feel better just overall. And I've talked to a
lot of dads who feel this way, that feel better
physically because I think I'm also better mentally. I think
some you know, you can't really separate the mind and body, right,
(29:32):
so when you say physical, it really is kind of
your brain as well. And I feel like in William,
you were talking about this, William, William, William, you were
talking about how you know, like your your wisdom right
is coming around. I think there's like a whole rounding
out of a person. I feel better holistically than ever
I certainly don't have some of the stuff we talked about, right,
(29:53):
I don't have the rebound. I don't have some of that,
but I do feel like, yeah, I mean I could,
I'm at my peak. I think I would say I'm
at my peak because I also know how to do
it better. You know, Like when I was playing football
in high school, it was like I'm taking care of myself. Well,
what are you doing in high school? You're nothing. You
(30:14):
stayed up late, going on frenzy, you go to the
weight room, you kind of half asset whatever, and you
go and you play ball and you're Okay. That was it,
you know. But now I've got the maturity to be
able to know how to take care of myself in
a way that I think makes me the best version
that I've been so far.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Beautiful. Yeah, I think so too, especially just like having
like being able to do things better from experience, like
training better, getting the sleep, whatever it might be. Yeah,
and also Sam with you Bradley, like I was never
like that amazing, Like I played lacrosse, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, Well we were to Tyson, okay, because for me,
like I look back and I'm like I was a badass.
I was lean, I was mus I could do.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
For the record, you're still lean and muscular.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But I'm not the same. And could I get back
to that same like leanness and muscularity. I don't know
if I could, and I definitely like. But back then,
I thought in order to achieve that level of excellence,
I had to do thirty or forty hours of work
(31:25):
a week, writing, going to the gym, doing cross training,
eating only salads and grapefruits. And now I'm like, I
could probably at least look that fit, yeah, with ten
hours a week, but I haven't tried. That's just me
(31:48):
lying to myself, probably, but I think that that's part
of it. That's part of us feeling like we are
still in our peak. Is us saying like we could
if we wanted, but we don't want to. And that's
what that's my answer at least, is like people are like,
you think you could still do that. I was like,
I could, but I don't want to because I'm boring
And at what cost? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Everything costs, right, It's time away from your family, time
away from your business, time away from us. We can't
we can't have that, Tyson, We can't exactly have that exactly.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Okay, final thing great? Should we be taking testosterone or
HGH injections that we are seeing advertise or the boosters
or whatever they're advertising on Instagram? Like are we going
to be there eventually? Like I am not opposed to
that stuff. I just don't feel like I could stick
myself every day with a needle just to like maybe
(32:40):
lose a little bit of belly fat.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I've never really considered it until recently. My friend works
at medspa, like a medical spa here, and she's awesome.
She's so great. Like I went in there recently and
got like a facial and they gave me B twelve injection.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I could tell and it was like I could be bucks.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So it's like, now that I've got like the really
cheap hook on all that stuff, I'm like, I'm like,
I might as well try this out. Ye blast it
off like twenty little things, like little pieces from my
body with a laser. Yeah, it's really fun stuff. But
they do testosterone testing there, So I'll probably do the
testosterone testing there because it's really cheap, and because like
(33:22):
you know, if it if that is something that's super
easy to address, and it's something that I need, then
I might as well, But I've never really considered it
before that.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I just wonder if the testosterone would be like like
a like an old car and you put a new
engine in it, and all of a sudden, it's like
not performing like it's supposed to. It's making weird, like
the axles aren't used to that type of torque from
the engine, you know, Like all of a sudden, it's
like you put a new Mercedes engine in like an
old Honda Civic, and you're like, Okay, the engine's gonna last,
(33:54):
but now everything else is falling apart.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
But all the other stuff that testosterone in I think
helps at a cellular level. So like I've seen studies
of HGH where people's eyesight returns okay, the their wrinkles disappear,
their hair starts growing back, like all of that stuff.
So it's like there is a fountain of youth aspect
to some of that stuff. But I also like, uh,
(34:19):
and I'm not opposed to it necessarily, but I don't
think I'm in the place where I'm like I'm gonna
seek it out yet, but yeah, maybe it's better. Like
That's what I don't know, Like should should I be
doing this right now.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I don't know why you're getting served all those ads.
I don't get those ads. I don't know if I.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Also have friends that work for some of these companies.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Okay, so you're interacting with those kinds of accounts. Yeah, yeah,
because I was going to say, I don't know. Also
if I want it from an Instagram company, so on Instagram,
like hey we found you know, like, can you get
it on you know Ali baba? Can we have this
you know, from from China?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
You probably got to get some team testosterone sent over.
It's only a dollar for you.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
If you go to your local gym and start asking
around at THEAH.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Like those guys will have that team stuff, dude. Some
of them will be like, yeah, I got like ten
gallons of testoster. I don't even know how it comes,
Like ten gallons of testosterone from.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Their third arm is out of their neck holding that.
You haven't really seen many side effects, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
So all right, Well, we're all getting older. Get your
sleep in everyone, get your face cream regimen and routine down.
I do that. That's something I never did and tell
oh yeah recently. So now I'm doing toner, serum, moisturizer oil.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Wow, all that and you just wear all that to
bed or these are like stages of washing.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
No, I wear it all the bed and go through
the whole day without. I only do it once a day,
and that's only if I don't shower to late at
night that I have time that I have an extra
three minutes to put.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
All that minutes three that's.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Twenty yeah, ten minutes at least because I want to
dry put the next thing on.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, So I.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Started doing serum and cream twice a day, twice a
day after the recommendation for my friend at the SPA. Okay,
but then so also for me, I got this thing
that I call MEDS and I it's meditation, exercise, diet
and sleep.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Oh it's an acronym and I took it from.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Somebody but I can't remember his name, so I didn't
invent it. But it's yeah, and and for me, if
I can do those things every day, then it really
helps me mentally physically, just like overall, feel a lot
better about everything I do.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Say that again, what was the what was the MEDS?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
MEDS? So meditation, exercise, diet and sleep and I try
to do whatever I can for thing in the morning.
So if I can exercise and meditate first thing in
the morning, then that kind of sets me up for success.
And if I do all four of those things every day,
then I just feel a lot better about everything and
(37:11):
I think more clearly. And uh yeah, So that's that's
kind of my little cheat sheet that I'm trying to
use to to stay so youthful and young.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, that's great. I like how Bradley's like exercise, exercise
like that you were doing Yeah, you were doing MDS.
You were just doing the MDS. Dude, you were like
I thought it.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Was only a missing I just feel like I'm missing.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Something one big uh yeah, anything else before we shut
this thing down.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Embrace embrace it. You can't go backwards. This is it. Like,
that's why we have this podcast. To normalize the struggle,
to normalize the uncertainty, to normalize, you know, just like
what are we doing here and how can we be
the best versions of ourselves? So I think, embrace it.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, we're all having crisises, let's have them to get
how many Yeah, crisis normal normal? So many? Thank you, gentlemen,
Thanks all for tuning in until next week.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
See you, Thank guys, b
Speaker 1 (38:11):
B HM,
Age wise, like do you feel old? You notice your
body shutting down. I don't go to the doctor for
fear of them telling me that I have a finite
amount of time.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
When do you become a man? Society is like, all right,
you can become a man at eighteen, but then you
turn eighteen and you're like, I a man? I got right.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Sleep is literally the antidote to death. I wanted to
pack everything I could into a twenty four hour period,
grab life by the horns, live it to the fullest.
I'm gonna go to bed at nine thirty and feel
amazing when I wake up.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah. So when I went to Canada where we all
first met, there was part of me that wanted to
stop at the gift shop in the airport and by
all Canada stuff. Yes, when I roll into the group meet,
I have just the like red and white with maple
leaves all over my everything.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I have, Oh my gosh, you you would instantly. You
don't judge a book by its cover, but everyone would
be judging you right as you rolled up, just like, hey, guys,
I'm here in Canada. This is great that this is
your neck.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
A map of physical map in one hand, what.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Do you think people who were judging me would think.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They would think this guy is extra. I'm I going
to create a little distance. I definitely don't want to
get in a conversation with this guy. He's going to
keep me talking about nothing for forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, and they would be right at least as far
as talking about nothing for me.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That's that's why we have the podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Have the podcast, and it's not about nothing about midlife
crisises b. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Was when we were driving down and you were talking
to the bus driver. Yeah, like two hours you just
didn't want to hear any of it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And I was sleeping in the back. I was like,
I went to sleep, you were talking. I woke up,
you were talking.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It was so funny.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
When we were going home from dinner, man, I was
so wiped, and he kept hinting that he didn't want
to keep talking, and I just kept going.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
He kept using those like wow, all right, well thanks
for that talk, and you're like speaking of that and
he's like, he's.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Probably a diet coke for dinner or something. That's why
I was so oh And I was on bear watch,
So I'm just trying to find bears.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And then you woke up three hours later to go
on a sunrise ish hike.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Where I continued talking to the people who didn't want
to talk at that time.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, that's actually why I chose not to go on
that hike. I was like, well, he's just going to
keep talking.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
The thing is, I know that they're bugged, but it
makes it like more enjoyable for me for some reason.
I don't know why it is, but like, if if
you don't want to be talked to, oh yeah, you
push into that. I pushed into that really hard. And yeah,
(02:52):
and if there's like a couple people that don't want it,
like if everybody was sleeping. So I was quietsh enough
in that van, and I thought, but I knew that
the old guy didn't want it, but I gave him
a tip. Dude, I give him a hundred.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Dollars bill, Dude, I would have listened to you for
a hundred bucks.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's pretty sweet.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Plus, look, that was also you were being Papa Bear,
because that guy's got to stay awake and alert driving
all of us home, So you were just also just helping,
you know, the group there.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So I was in a passenger seat. That is my
duty is to make sure.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
The passenger princess. Yeah, you had to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Did you give him one hundred dollars bill because you
knew that you were bothering the whole time? Or yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Was it a Canadian undred? Because if not, you gave
him more. You gave him more than US one hundred. Yeah,
US hundred. I think the last step he's ever got
one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah. I mean he was hinting at tips the whole
time to everybody. But I think also that the budget
also paid him a tip already. I'm sure, Yeah found
out afterwards. I regretted my decision. I could have a
cool Hundi in my wallet right now, dude. Uh but yeah,
let's get into it. We are the midlife crisis is
(04:00):
there's three crisises here at Radleys. I always have a
hard time with your name because you say it's pronounced
one way, but that you want it pronounced another way,
or it used to be or something. We're trying to
change the pronunciation a little bit. So what is the
real pronunciation?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
What do you want us to say?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Okay? Bradley has a Meyer like like possession of Oscar
Meyer has a Meyer. That's the easiest way to say it.
When I growing up and even now and I didn't
realize it. I leaned toward the hard s to a Z,
which is a little more German. This is hawesome. Ayah
Hasamaya ah yeah, yeah, you know it's Rocknzy the nine.
(04:39):
You know it's that my parents, it was. It was
a soft s, has Samire, has Samyr, But I like
has Zemyr, like with a Z. So what are we
saying has Zamier my parents?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Is me?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I set the tone? Okay, live crisis that dude.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I have never heard of somebody changing the pronunciation of
their last name just.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It wasn't intentional. It was like one day someone was like, oh,
I thought you said Hassemeiro and I was like, I
don't think so, and my parents were like, yeah, it's
Hassemeiro and I was like, oh well so yeah. So
that's why on Instagram I'm b has haz because it's
like how I pronounce haza Meyer got it? And it's Bradley.
(05:21):
I tried Brad Brad was way too cool for me.
I'm just good old like, ah shucks, Bradley, and so
I'm sticking with that.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, I like that. And William Drum also named Confusion
because he goes by Bill to his closest dearest friend.
So off of this podcast, Bradley and I would call
you Bill here, we call you William for more professional reasons,
so that the audience knows you as William. Yeah. Is
that all correct?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That's all correct?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
On all right, William?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
All right, William?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So weird hearing it though?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Is it weird coming out of my mouth after all
the talking you heard me doing Canada?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yes, here's what makes a midlife crisis great.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Though.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Crisises are all about changing in the moment, adjusting and adapting.
If you hate us calling you William after a while,
we probably won't stop because we'll know you hate it.
But yes, we in our hearts, we will know we should.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Just for the record, correct. The premise of this show
is to address our midlife crisis, is talk about that
going on in our lives, and so each week one
of us comes up with a question. Last week we
talked about being surrounded by death.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's morbid.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Bradley stepp into the room.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I call him morbid, has Amayer, that's right. And this
week I wanted to kind of lighten the tone a
little bit, but stay on that same like mortality conversation.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, I'm forty five. That's a midlife to a ninety
year old, like exactly in the middle, which ninety is
above the age. I still feel invincible at this point,
Like I still don't feel like I'm gonna die, Like
I haven't had an experience close enough to death yet.
I don't go to the doctor for fear of them
(07:13):
telling me that I have a finite amount of time.
And so like I'm like, oh, I can't breathe through
my nose, and that's been going on for two years.
It's probably it's fine. So my question is this, and
(07:34):
I mean even further on Instagram, I'm getting bombarded with
like supplements to make you youthful, like injections, like you
give yourself your own injections. Now what hair loss like supplements?
You know all of it. And and so my question
(07:55):
is this is do you feel the same as you
did ten, fifteen, twenty years ago or do you feel
different age wise? Like do you feel old? Do you
notice your body shutting down? Are there moments where you're like,
I'm gonna fucking die, like I will die event like
this is one step closer to death, I can feel it.
(08:20):
Or are you still in that sweet spot where you're
like I still feel like I could crush anybody younger
than me at anything athletic, like what is? What are
your feelings? And how long until death gets us? You
don't have to answer that last one, but yeah, I
want to.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Hear from William because he's the younger of all three
of us. Yes, because he may either be able to say, like,
I remember my you're how are you again? Williaman thirty nine,
he's going to be forty. Man been forty. I can't
believe it. It's been so long, scar of us. Yeah, I
actually love I actually really like getting older. But I
(09:02):
I and I'll talk more about that in a second.
But I'm really curious how William feels because also William
lives a life that's a lot more on the edge,
that's a lot more face to face with what you
and I, Tyson, just regular folk would consider dangerous as
a professional diver, as someone who travels a lot more
and he goes to these remote places. Last time we
talked about like you know, sleeping and sleeping bags with
(09:24):
some crocodiles, or.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
They weren't in the sleeping bag, but.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They were right close enough if they were here on
this deserted island. If something goes south, you're dead, you know,
Like I'm not living in that realm yet I'm waking
up with a sore knee and trying to figure out why.
So I'm trying to So I'm curious, William, your perspective
on that.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
To start with, Well, I would say that, like you're saying,
how you really like getting older, I do think that
I'm starting to feel kind of the same way about that,
in that, like all of these years of doing things,
I feel like it was hard to like absorb the
wisdom that you get out of all these things. And
then once you start getting older, like you learn the
(10:02):
same lessons over and over again, and then they kind
of get ingrained in you and you and you start
getting wiser. So you, guys, you're pretty old, so you're
probably way wiser.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
So wise, congratulations, I would say that I definitely notice,
like the obvious things as far as like it takes
longer to bounce back after doing like a big trip
like that where I'm going super hard like it used
to be able to get back in town and I
was fine the next day to do whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Now like I gotta I gotta rest up a little bit,
take my time, like eat better and yeah, and that's
another big thing too. I think I don't feel like
I'm like that much older than I was and ten
years ago most of the time. But I do feel
like things like eating good and exercise like are really
important now and if I don't do those things then
(10:53):
I feel like crap. Whereas back in the day, I
could just do whatever, yeah, gone stop and feel fine
and not worry about it. Now, Like I mean my
stomach like if I if I don't eat good, I'll
have heartburn for days, and and like exercise, if I
don't exercise, I get like more tired. And so yeah,
I definitely feel like I'm a little bit older. But
(11:15):
it's really interesting thing because I've always thought about, like
when do you become a man?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Like, you know, that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Society is like, all right, you become a man at eighteen,
but then you turn eighteen, you're like, am I a man? Like?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Right? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I don't really feel like I am.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I don't know. What it is mortgage still.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, Now you see an eighteen year old and you're like,
Jesus Christ, look at how a little that guy is. Hey, yeah,
pinch his cheeks, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So then I'll like, William over here, come here, come here, And.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Then I would say that now that I'm almost forty,
I feel like I'm finally like, oh, maybe I am
actually like becoming a man after all of this time
where oh I'm a boy still like I'm of your
old boy. But whatever it might be. Uh So, yeah,
I do think I'm getting older. I still feel youthful
at times, but my body definitely lets me know that, Yeah,
(12:09):
I ain't twenty anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I think you bring up something that only recently I've
I have come to terms with, which is you know,
I think there's a number of anybody listening to this
and us as well, can can instantly highlight one or
two things that come to their brain about like what
it's like to get older, right, could you metabolism? Can't
eat like I used to, William, you brought up the
idea of like rebound, you know, like I joke with
(12:33):
my friends like I was I was, you know, running
after some kids in the neighborhood and we were playing
football and I caught them. But then the next day
I was.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Actually chasing them. They's steal something from you.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
No, we were just like hanging around like playing uh,
and but they were running full speed and I caught them. Yeah,
make here with me, trash bag, and my hamstrings were
like what I didn't couldn't even move. The next I
was like, what happened? Like did someone slice my You know,
there's that. But I think for me that one of
(13:04):
the things that I'm learning to do is embrace sleep.
Like my friend was telling me about this Ted talk
he saw, and it was all about like how sleep
is literally the antidote to death. Like what happens in
your body over the hours that you're sleeping there recouping
that either it's rebuilding of muscle, it's repairing tissue damage,
it's resetting your brain. But when I was younger man
(13:24):
in college, it was all about like what's the smallest
amount I could do? Like if I could stay up
and it wasn't even bad stuff. It was like if
I could study until two am, then I could get
up at six and go for a run and then
be at my eight o'clock class. It was like I
wanted to pack everything I could into a twenty four
hour period. Grab life by the horns, live it to
the fullest. And I think my wife has always been
(13:47):
a great sleeper, Like yeah, you know, I was like, oh, hey,
you know we first started dating. I was like, oh,
so I was thinking like eight o'clock breakfast, and she's like,
can we do eleven. I'm like, I'm having lunch at eleven,
so I don't know, you know, And I'm like, I've
already done like fifteen things before lunch. And she's like,
you know, being a mom, obviously that changes things. But
I just kind of ran from the idea of sleep.
(14:08):
It seemed lazy, it seemed unnecessary. Oh if I could
just go through my day and not sleep, I could
get so much more done. And I feel like over
the past four or five years, I've embraced that idea
of like I'm going to you know what, I'm not
going to stream five shows tonight. I'm gonna go to
bed at nine thirty and feel amazing when I wake up,
you know. And to me, that's a little bit of
like I feel like the question too, of like when
(14:30):
do we become a man. I think the definition of
like what is a man? I think is always kind
of like floating out there too. And you know it
used to be like the go hard, nothing stops you,
nothing can preventce you. You're invincible, right, Tyson, that was
your original question. Yeah, and I think I've embraced the
idea that I'm not and I need things like sleep,
like vitamins. I had this great moment, this great la moment.
(14:51):
I just turned thirty. So on the pre pref well
prefs precipice, there's the word on the precipice of this
big new change in my life. And I'm at my
doctor's office and doing it, just having a physical, you know,
routine kind of you know, every year kind of physical.
And he looks at me and he says, we need
to talk, and he shuts the door. He comes back
in with his you know, his clipboard and pen and everything,
(15:16):
and I'm like, okay, so I have cancer. Clearly this
is going to be what he's going to say. So
he looks at me very sternly and he says, do
you realize you're losing your hair? And it's such a
great LA moment of like you should think about botox
at twenty two because you know, and I was like,
whoa doc? I, you know, and he's like, and it's
(15:38):
really serious. You need to get ahead of this. And
I'm like, yeah, okay, fine, that's great. But I'm living
right like there's no you know, and so it's like,
I gotta take my Yeah, I can just lead to
oh no, I won't book rolls. I'll be the guy
without hair. Oh no, you know, but I gotta take
my vitamins. I gotta do my things. I gotta. And
I've also put in I'm not invincible in my workout
(15:59):
schedule like I would love, you know, just like I
love working out, I love being active all that. But
I've learning to value rest, which can be all kinds
of things, meditation, sleeping in, taking things off your plate.
Have a day that's not as busy, just as much
as I value the other the working out, the busy,
the travel, right, William. I mean if you go back
(16:19):
to back on like a week you know, diving in,
then a week in the rockies, and you're just going
to be crap by the end of that, there's no
real value. You're diminishing returns on your energy so I
think for me, I've just come to grips with like
maybe that's how it's supposed to be. I mean, you know,
in like the world of you know, the Bible, right
and Jewish Sabbath, like there was a day of rest
(16:41):
that was baked into everything because the idea was, like
you just your body's not made to go that long.
The fuel tank eventually runs out on your car. We
don't have mid driving refueling like you do in the
air in an airplane, Like your car has to stop
for a little bit, it needs to rest for a
few minutes while you get gas. So I kind of
feel that way about myself.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, and I it's so like last month I did.
I went to Bonair for a week, I brought my daughter,
I came back for a day, and then I flew
up to Canada to meet these guys, and then I
flew back down to the Caribbean to Saint Eustatius for
another week after being Denver for only one day, and
then I came back. And you're right, Bradley, I was
(17:22):
like a mess that week that I came back, Like yeah,
like irritable, just couldn't focus like anything, like really bad
so I think that I'm not invincible at all like
I used to be. Like we're talking about it that way,
and it if you don't build in that rest into things,
then it can really like mess you up. It can
(17:43):
affect all kinds of Like I was in a meeting
right after that trip and I got into it with
this person and we started like really getting into it,
like not really like me at all, And it was
just because I've been running so hard for three weeks
straight and no sleep, and then I came back into
this office world, sitting in front of the office all day,
and like I was not in the right headspace. So
(18:05):
if you don't build in that rest, I think it's
it can be really bad. And with work, I've I'm
trying to adjust to not doing what you're talking about, Bradley,
where I just stay up super late like and just
grind on things and like I'm I'm a creative or whatever,
(18:26):
so like I kind of have to follow those creative flows,
and for me, a lot of those to those creative
flows happen in the middle of the night and I'll
work until last weekend. I worked till four thirty am
one day. But I know now that because of getting older,
I can't just bounce back like that, Like I can't
do these crazy grind sessions and then wake up and
then work again the next day. So it's been really
(18:49):
hard trying to figure out how to still keep that
creative energy and like take advantage of that flow state
that you can get in when you're creating without killing
myself the next day. And also being like a single dad,
i have to have a routine for my daughter. So
I've got to get her to school, I've got to
pick her up, I got to take her to dance,
(19:09):
you know, whatever it might be. So it's completely opposite
of how I kind of work naturally, because naturally I'm
staying up super late, working, sleeping in until nine am
or something like that, and then getting it up and
doing it again, having breaks, working again super late at night.
But then I'll get my daughter and it's like, oh, okay,
I've got to get everything done between the time I
(19:31):
take her to school and pick her up, which means
I have to go to bed at a decent time
because I have to be able to focus really well
during that time so I could hit my goals and
still be available for her in the afternoon. So it's
been a huge adjustment. I don't I'm definitely not there yet,
but it's a fun challenge to work on.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, I've always been a sleeper. I I can see that.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
You know, there's just something about you, Dyson that just
reads snooze button.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Now, I think it's your energy level. Your energy level
just keeps going. It's got to come from somewhere. So
you don't strike me as a tired person.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
No, I get tired if I don't get enough sleep.
And but I was a pro athlete. I was a
pro cyclist, and it was like you got to get
your ten hours asleep. You can do it in multiple stages,
like you got to get at least eight or nine
hours at night and then a nap, or you can
do all ten at night. Whatever you try to want
(20:30):
to do, even collegiate swimming. It was like you got
to try and get your your sleep in. And so
that was something I always did and if I didn't,
I bounced back well, and like I could even compete
the next day off of poor sleep. And a lot
of times you get nervous the night before a competition
and you don't sleep very well. Anyways, And I always
(20:55):
thought that I had the best memory in the world.
I have great memory. But when I started getting less
sleep because I have kids, I got to get up
early there, up in the middle of the night sometimes
they need their thing for me, and I don't get
the sleep I need. And then I'm doing my thing
late so that I can catch up on stuff. And
(21:17):
it's that cycle, and then I'm forgetting stuff all the time.
I'm like, I wasn't better than anybody else. I'd just
been getting more sleep than everybody for the last three decades.
And now that I'm not, I'm just an average schmo
schlub on the street with an average memory who forgets
shit like people's last names that I went to high
school with and have been friends with for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Like so, but is that also you getting older? I mean,
is that one of those like my sight is going
my you know, Like, is that part of that you think?
You really attribute It's really just a sleep thing.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I really think it's a sleep thing. I really do,
cause if I do get my sleep for a good
amount of time, then I'm I'm fine. I'm fine with
the memory and stuff. But the second that, like I'm
laughing on that. Then I did notice that I also
wanted to touch on like Bradley, You're you're saying that
like all this sleep reset stuff is important. So would
(22:10):
you say, add ten years to your life, but all
of that is sleep or because I like the e
would you rather are you you're having the same amount
of awake hours? So so yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I mean, I think, you know, it's like it's also
about like the quality and the value of the awake time, right,
Because it's also like, if I'm honest, even when I
was staying up late working, it wasn't great work. It
certainly wasn't efficient. Like if I was editing from you know,
midnight to two, I was half as efficient in those
(22:51):
two hours than I could be from nine to two
in the morning or nine to what eleven in the morning. Right,
So it was also kind of like the reality of
it's not, you know, staying up later isn't like I'm
getting that much more out of life. I'm actually losing more,
I think. So I don't I would say, yeah, I
would say sleep in general, because also when you when
(23:13):
you decide to say I'm human, I'm going to die
one day, I need to be my best self while
I'm here, and you embrace that. I think it trickles
into other aspects to your life, right. It's knowing, oh yeah,
I shouldn't work out five straight days. I need to
take a day off, even if that's humbling, even if
you see other people like with the GYMP seven days,
(23:35):
I run five days, I cycle seven days, like whatever,
You're like, yes, stop grinding. Never mentality.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Never let a millionaires before twenty three? Did you're a
do fist?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I'm sorry? Did I just turn on my Instagram because
that's what I see. That's all I see past, Oh
my gosh, mixed.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
With the testosterone injections and yeah, hair supplements and the
face creams and all that stuff like it just like
my algorithm is like.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
We're doing so much. We're trying to do so much.
I really think sleep is a big Like people are like,
I'm not going to sleep, so I have to do
these nineteen other things. I was pre med in college
and until I failed organic chemistry. But during that time
before I failed and switched over to PR, a classic
moved the PR cliche. In fact, I saw I remember
(24:27):
witnessing an open heart surgery and The amount of equipment
it took for just what a heart does passively was
mind blowing. I mean, you have an entire person devoted
to this monitor as well as like they have to
filter the blood as it's going through because that's what
the heart doesn't pump it as well. I was just like,
that's what that little thing does that I think about,
and I think that's how sleep is a little bit.
(24:47):
It's like, yeah, you can stay up later, but now
you need extra face cream, and you need more coffee,
and you need testosterone because you're not getting enough to
So I don't know. I think sleep is one of
those things that we just as a culture, we don't
really value enough. And it it's something that I always
kind of pushed back against, like oh need that.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Man?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
If I get like five hours of sleep, I'm pretty good.
And then I just realized, you know what, No, I'm
like embracing, like, who was it? Cedric the Entertainer, hilarious comedian.
He had a whole thing one of his specials that
I saw and he's like, I'm a grown ass man,
I'm not going to go do that thing. And I
just like think about that sometimes in my mind, like
(25:25):
you know what. No, I'm a grown ass man. I'm
gonna go to bed at nine thirty. I don't care
what you think. You know, I'm a grown ass man.
I don't need to prove anything to anyone, myself included.
I don't have to grind for six days at the
gym like I'm about to compete in the Olympics. It's like, wait,
what are you doing. You're gonna be sore. Can't even
like carry your kids up the stairs because you like
pulled your back doing unnecessary like clean and jerk, Like
(25:47):
what was the point of that? So, yeah, I don't know.
That's a weird answer to your question. But I think,
to me, that's one of the biggest changes as I've
gotten older and I've accepted that I'm not invincible, and
then so then what what can I do to increase
my invincibility?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I guess, and I think that it's also like super
rewarding when you can accept that and then make changes
based on So last year, I was going to run
a twenty mile race here, and before the race, I
trained super hard. I was like running every day, like
doing big runs, and then like a month before the race,
(26:25):
I went out one night didn't get much sleep, got
up the next day and I tried or I ran
like sixteen or seventeen miles or something like that, and
I just blew out my ankles so bad. And then
I kept on like trying to train for this race.
And then by the time the race came, my ankles
were totally blown out. I couldn't do the race, and
(26:45):
I was kind of like, oh man, can I just
like is my body just too old? Like am I
not able to run? Because I'm just an old man?
But then I just stopped for a couple months, and
then I started like walking every other day, and now
I'd never run two days in a row and it's
and it's worked great and now I'm able to run
and I feel awesome when I do it. So like
(27:07):
if you're able to just kind of keep your age
or whatever it is just like reality and perspective and
then work with it, then it's awesome because it's like, oh, yeah,
I can run. I'm gonna be able to run forever.
I just need to listen to my body. I can't
push it too hard and like I can, you know,
I can get to this great point, but I can't
force it and I have to go slowly towards it.
(27:29):
But as long as I'm working towards it and paying attention,
then I can get there for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I'm even as a pro cyclist throughout my career.
When I was young, or I could train back to
back days, push hard, you know that did my recovery
rate was faster. And later in my career, which was
not a long career, I noticed that, like I had
to take extra days, bruises on my body wouldn't heal
(27:56):
as fast if I was exhausted, all of that stuff,
and I was like, well, this is already happening to me,
but now I feel like I've recovered. So follow up question,
but could you uh, oh, at least in your mind
be as good as you ever were physically if you
(28:21):
had the time and routine to get there.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I could for sure, Yeah, I think so because also
you look at easy.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I think that too. Right now, I'm forty five, but
I'm like one of the guys I raced with just
retired last year. He's forty four when he retired. So now,
like I was like, I could probably if I won,
I could have done that too, And I still could.
I could. I just don't have the time now, I.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Would say, compared to my earlier self, I don't necessarily
know if I could. There's there's plenty of people I
could not beat at various athletic you know, accomplishments. But
from where I was at, you know whatever, in my twenties,
I mean really, your thirties and your forties are like
prime testosterone prime, like like body years in terms of health,
in terms of energy, in terms of all that, and
(29:11):
then it starts to fall off clearly. You know that
as an old forty five year old, you know, I
can see you as we're coasting down. Yeah, but I
actually feel better just overall. And I've talked to a
lot of dads who feel this way, that feel better
physically because I think I'm also better mentally. I think
some you know, you can't really separate the mind and body, right,
(29:32):
so when you say physical, it really is kind of
your brain as well. And I feel like in William,
you were talking about this, William, William, William, you were
talking about how you know, like your your wisdom right
is coming around. I think there's like a whole rounding
out of a person. I feel better holistically than ever
I certainly don't have some of the stuff we talked about, right,
(29:53):
I don't have the rebound. I don't have some of that,
but I do feel like, yeah, I mean I could,
I'm at my peak. I think I would say I'm
at my peak because I also know how to do
it better. You know, Like when I was playing football
in high school, it was like I'm taking care of myself. Well,
what are you doing in high school? You're nothing. You
(30:14):
stayed up late, going on frenzy, you go to the
weight room, you kind of half asset whatever, and you
go and you play ball and you're Okay. That was it,
you know. But now I've got the maturity to be
able to know how to take care of myself in
a way that I think makes me the best version
that I've been so far.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Beautiful. Yeah, I think so too, especially just like having
like being able to do things better from experience, like
training better, getting the sleep, whatever it might be. Yeah,
and also Sam with you Bradley, like I was never
like that amazing, Like I played lacrosse, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, Well we were to Tyson, okay, because for me,
like I look back and I'm like I was a badass.
I was lean, I was mus I could do.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
For the record, you're still lean and muscular.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But I'm not the same. And could I get back
to that same like leanness and muscularity. I don't know
if I could, and I definitely like. But back then,
I thought in order to achieve that level of excellence,
I had to do thirty or forty hours of work
(31:25):
a week, writing, going to the gym, doing cross training,
eating only salads and grapefruits. And now I'm like, I
could probably at least look that fit, yeah, with ten
hours a week, but I haven't tried. That's just me
(31:48):
lying to myself, probably, but I think that that's part
of it. That's part of us feeling like we are
still in our peak. Is us saying like we could
if we wanted, but we don't want to. And that's
what that's my answer at least, is like people are like,
you think you could still do that. I was like,
I could, but I don't want to because I'm boring
And at what cost? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Everything costs, right, It's time away from your family, time
away from your business, time away from us. We can't
we can't have that, Tyson, We can't exactly have that exactly.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Okay, final thing great? Should we be taking testosterone or
HGH injections that we are seeing advertise or the boosters
or whatever they're advertising on Instagram? Like are we going
to be there eventually? Like I am not opposed to
that stuff. I just don't feel like I could stick
myself every day with a needle just to like maybe
(32:40):
lose a little bit of belly fat.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I've never really considered it until recently. My friend works
at medspa, like a medical spa here, and she's awesome.
She's so great. Like I went in there recently and
got like a facial and they gave me B twelve injection.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I could tell and it was like I could be bucks.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So it's like, now that I've got like the really
cheap hook on all that stuff, I'm like, I'm like,
I might as well try this out. Ye blast it
off like twenty little things, like little pieces from my
body with a laser. Yeah, it's really fun stuff. But
they do testosterone testing there, So I'll probably do the
testosterone testing there because it's really cheap, and because like
(33:22):
you know, if it if that is something that's super
easy to address, and it's something that I need, then
I might as well, But I've never really considered it
before that.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I just wonder if the testosterone would be like like
a like an old car and you put a new
engine in it, and all of a sudden, it's like
not performing like it's supposed to. It's making weird, like
the axles aren't used to that type of torque from
the engine, you know, Like all of a sudden, it's
like you put a new Mercedes engine in like an
old Honda Civic, and you're like, Okay, the engine's gonna last,
(33:54):
but now everything else is falling apart.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
But all the other stuff that testosterone in I think
helps at a cellular level. So like I've seen studies
of HGH where people's eyesight returns okay, the their wrinkles disappear,
their hair starts growing back, like all of that stuff.
So it's like there is a fountain of youth aspect
to some of that stuff. But I also like, uh,
(34:19):
and I'm not opposed to it necessarily, but I don't
think I'm in the place where I'm like I'm gonna
seek it out yet, but yeah, maybe it's better. Like
That's what I don't know, Like should should I be
doing this right now.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I don't know why you're getting served all those ads.
I don't get those ads. I don't know if I.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Also have friends that work for some of these companies.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Okay, so you're interacting with those kinds of accounts. Yeah, yeah,
because I was going to say, I don't know. Also
if I want it from an Instagram company, so on Instagram,
like hey we found you know, like, can you get
it on you know Ali baba? Can we have this
you know, from from China?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
You probably got to get some team testosterone sent over.
It's only a dollar for you.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
If you go to your local gym and start asking
around at THEAH.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Like those guys will have that team stuff, dude. Some
of them will be like, yeah, I got like ten
gallons of testoster. I don't even know how it comes,
Like ten gallons of testosterone from.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Their third arm is out of their neck holding that.
You haven't really seen many side effects, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
So all right, Well, we're all getting older. Get your
sleep in everyone, get your face cream regimen and routine down.
I do that. That's something I never did and tell
oh yeah recently. So now I'm doing toner, serum, moisturizer oil.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Wow, all that and you just wear all that to
bed or these are like stages of washing.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
No, I wear it all the bed and go through
the whole day without. I only do it once a day,
and that's only if I don't shower to late at
night that I have time that I have an extra
three minutes to put.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
All that minutes three that's.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Twenty yeah, ten minutes at least because I want to
dry put the next thing on.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, So I.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Started doing serum and cream twice a day, twice a
day after the recommendation for my friend at the SPA. Okay,
but then so also for me, I got this thing
that I call MEDS and I it's meditation, exercise, diet
and sleep.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Oh it's an acronym and I took it from.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Somebody but I can't remember his name, so I didn't
invent it. But it's yeah, and and for me, if
I can do those things every day, then it really
helps me mentally physically, just like overall, feel a lot
better about everything I do.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Say that again, what was the what was the MEDS?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
MEDS? So meditation, exercise, diet and sleep and I try
to do whatever I can for thing in the morning.
So if I can exercise and meditate first thing in
the morning, then that kind of sets me up for success.
And if I do all four of those things every day,
then I just feel a lot better about everything and
(37:11):
I think more clearly. And uh yeah, So that's that's
kind of my little cheat sheet that I'm trying to
use to to stay so youthful and young.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, that's great. I like how Bradley's like exercise, exercise
like that you were doing Yeah, you were doing MDS.
You were just doing the MDS. Dude, you were like
I thought it.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Was only a missing I just feel like I'm missing.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Something one big uh yeah, anything else before we shut
this thing down.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Embrace embrace it. You can't go backwards. This is it. Like,
that's why we have this podcast. To normalize the struggle,
to normalize the uncertainty, to normalize, you know, just like
what are we doing here and how can we be
the best versions of ourselves? So I think, embrace it.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, we're all having crisises, let's have them to get
how many Yeah, crisis normal normal? So many? Thank you, gentlemen,
Thanks all for tuning in until next week.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
See you, Thank guys, b
Speaker 1 (38:11):
B HM,
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