July 21, 2025 • 45 mins
The Midlife Crisisses are back! On today's episode, Tyson Apostol (@tysonapostol) Bradley Hasemeyer (@bhaz) and William Drumm (@williamdrumm) discuss teaching our kids the value of a dollar, dealing with comparison to your neighbours and peers, and how value does not always equate to monetary or material means!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Midlife Crisises. I'm Tyson, one of the hosts.
Thank you so much for liking, subscribing, commenting, sharing all
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(00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
And we really want to hear for you guys too.
We want to hear about your midlife crisises. We want
to know what kind of stuff you are going through
so that we can talk about it and share our
insights about trying to survive this boat as well.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So let's get into it, all right, fellas. Here is
the question of the week. How do we stop being
so materialistic as adults?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Because when I was young, I was so into that.
I wanted the nice stuff. I wanted the super nice car,
I wanted the big house. Whenever you step into that
you get to experience some of those things, you realize
it really is just kind of like a vapor dream.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Is that possible? Can we do it? Are we happier
not chasing the highs of the dopamine hits from buying
something cool? We'll find out.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Midlife Crisises. I'm Bradley Hazemayer. We've
got a couple great hosts here. We got some fun
times ahead, but we just want to say thank you
for being here, thanks for joining in. We're back, You're back.
We had a couple rewind episodes because hey, it's summer,
we're traveling, you're traveling. We got all the midlife stuff
going on. We're trying to pack as much as we
can into these summer weeks, either with your kids, or
(01:44):
get the doctor's appointments done or whatever. I've got a
passport appointments coming up. It's you just got to get
it all done now. And it's been hard to try
to line all of that up. So we gave ourselves
a break, because that's something else in midlife you got
to do, is just say, hey, let's be real, this
is what's going on.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So that's what we've done.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Hopefully you've enjoyed those previous episodes we got new new
for you today, and as you know, Bradley has ameyer,
content creator, father of two and a dog sleeping down
here on the ac event. That's his new jam right now.
He's so smart. He's like, yeah, I think I'm just
gonna lay there, but I'm not alone. We also got
William coming off of a bunch of cool stuff, including
a debut film and a bunch of art that was sold.
(02:23):
So I'm going to toss it to William and he
can bring you up to speed.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Hey, everybody, hope you're having a good summer. Yeah, Bradley's right,
We've been very busy. Lots of fun stuff, lots of
other stuff too. I mean, I'm trying to remember what
all we've talked about since we broke up last time.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
But the band is back together.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I lost another doggie, which was really hard. Mister Gunner
put him down a couple of weeks ago. He was
a really good boy. He was especially like when I
was going through my divorce. Every time I was emotional
at all, he just like sensed it and was like
all up on me, like on my chest.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Padding he ran over and bit your ex every time.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's kind of that version of that.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
That's great, but the opposite, yes, yeah right.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
We had our film release for Awakening, which was really fun.
Been doing some whitewater rafting last weekend, ready for a
bunch of other trips, and still moving into my house.
I did my garage. I organized all my dive gear
I've got.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I've got I bet your garage just as like racks
on racks of.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Now it was just trails on piles of ship. Now
it's racks on racks.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh wow, I.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Haven't all piled up. I mean, I've got it all
boxed up. I've got like ten big boxes of dive gear,
so I'm about to be slanging a bunch of dive gear. Also,
been doing a bunch of shooting for Citizen. They just
came up with their new Aqua Land anniversary watch, and
it's my favorite one that they've done so far. It's
got like ever it's got Yeah, it's got a digital
(04:00):
component too. It's kind of hard to seek, yeah yeah,
but so it's got like, you know, a depth gauge,
it's got alarms on it, it's got timers. So it's
the piece.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
It's all about it. So why is it Land? Aquaaland right,
because you've got it, you can wear it. You can
wear it on the land and in the water. That's
what I'm saying. So that yeah, it was like does
it have all I don't think it has now, Timeter.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
The thing about it was it was the like the
last best actual dive gauge watch before they started going
all digital, because now with a dive watch, as William
would certainly tell you, you don't really need a dive watch.
You've got so many computers on you that are telling
you everything, right, the dive watch is really just kind
of like part of the experience, part of the look.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, you can get dive computer apps now for your
smart watch, so yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Okay, but it is a super dope looking watch, and
it's a throwback to the original, which is like forty
years forty years ago, so it's got got those retro vibes.
And I guess it was actually in a movie with Genre, know,
French diving movie. Remember Genre know you mean he got
Cousto No Genre, No, the actor. It is funny that
(05:17):
their names were so similar. He always wore those circle glasses.
What was the movie he was in with Natalie Portman?
He was like an assassin.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Super young.
She was like mill and he would he was. He
would drink milk every night and then just sit awake
waiting for the bad guys to come.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
That was before got milk, that should have probably been there,
got bad.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
He ever, he'd bring like two gallons of milk ham
and then just sit down in his chair facing the
door to his apartment, waiting for trouble to come and
find him. I would watch the door, you trust, somebody
drink milk. Milk, Yes, I remember that show.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I was texting you guys the other day because I
was photographing the new Aqua land up in the mountains
here and there was a giant bull moose close to us,
and I was thinking about trying to photograph this big
bull moose. And you know, I was telling Tyson, maybe
I should build like a moose cage to photograph it,
or make a little camera inside of a robot duck
(06:21):
and try to get them up to it. So, yeah,
I have new plans. I'm actually tomorrow, Monday, I'm going
to go look for him again and see.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I'm going to tell you, William, the best shot would
be that bubble lens that's on top and underneath water.
Oh yeah, yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's pretty murky.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah yeah, but you want it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
If anything, I'll get stumped to death, but I'll still.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You're not going to find him. Yeah, it's going to
be hard to find a moose in the water again.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I know, I was pretty lucky.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
You should have tossed the watch onto one of his antlers. Yeah,
is he walking around with a watch on the anler.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I've seen stories in the water before, and I've also
I hit a moose with a snowball once when it
was it was on the cross country. It was on
the cross country ski track and it would not move,
and I sat there for like half an hour waiting
for it to get out of my way and it wouldn't.
So I threw a snowball at it, and it did
(07:22):
not care.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I do.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
A moose stop. It didn't flinch, its body didn't do anything.
It just is like took another snowball. And so I
was there like probably over an hour waiting for that
thing to clear.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I don't think people are aware how imposing a moose is.
It's like a better sized elephant, like, it's just moose.
Moosin are massive and they're big old horns. When you
get close, you're just like, wait a second, If this
thing sneezes at me, I'm dead.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Like you can think they'll have fun. They are, Yeah,
I feel just by look Snowball was just like yeah, yeah,
it did nothing, yeah, nothing, And so I, uh, yeah,
that's but and I know they can get real stompy
and hurt people, but most of the time they just
(08:17):
want to go them. No, you don't want to go
in the When they're that they get really aggressive or
like or Alaska.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I heard that when there's fruit on the ground at
ferments and they eat it and they get all drunk.
And that's what they're real rowdy drunk moose.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Drunk moose. They're angry drunk moose. Are angry moose.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Drunk moose sounds like the the mascot of a small
liberal arts school, or it sounds like a dart miss
drunk moose.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, or like drunk moose at Coachella six. Yes, all
of that sounds very good. So I think, Yeah, a
lot going on. I don't have that watch yet. I'm
jealous yet I did wear sack.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
That's how rare they are. They send it to me
for shooting and then they said you got to send
it back.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Wow. Yeah, only people like William get to hold it
to keep one in partners. Yeah right, I should reach
out and see them.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
For the whole world worldwide for the w Yeah, dang,
so get on it, Tyson.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
How much are they like five, five or six hundred? Yeah?
Oh okay, yeah, not crazy. No, it's not crazy. You
said five, and I thought five thousand. I was like, oh,
it's like their highest end. Oh d yeah, five five
hund does half a rack. I wore a one of
those surfing wave watches from them for that's been my
(09:49):
daily driver. I don't know why we're talking about watches
right now because we're midlife bros. It's all right, we're
growing up. That's part of growing up.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I've been having also whirlwind some and traveled got home
from filming House of Villains.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Have we talked about that yet that you've been on there?
I don't know if we've even I don't know if
you know, but on air here I don't know, or
on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I mean it's been announced publicly. The cast has so
it's fine to talk about. And that experience, coupled with
a few other things, have led me to my question today.
I guess the build up is, we bought a new
house last year and we've been in the process of
(10:34):
furnishing it, and we've just we hired an interior designer
and then they stockpile all the furniture and then come
and bring it all at one time, so that it's
not like a long slow burn. It's just like Bam,
there you go. Yeah, so you again, so you're not
inconvenienced a bunch of times throughout the months as furniture
(10:57):
rolls in slowly. And my question is materialism. How do
we approach materialism? How do we avoid materialism? Is like?
And how do we teach our kids not to be materialistic?
(11:18):
I know that a lot of these, like all the
influencers now, all the like finance bros on that are
telling you how to like drive cars and do all
this shit, and none of it fucking matters. It doesn't matter.
But how do you get in that mindset? And how
do you teach that to your kids? I go on
this show and I'm looking around at these people and
(11:41):
I'm like, most of these people are really sad, and
anything I would say against them is like punching down
because I'm happy, right, which is the greatest gift of all.
It's the greatest. So I'm like, what can I do?
And I think it's just that materialism does really affect people,
(12:02):
like seeing what owners have and wanting it and not
even needing it and not even getting it, and then
not even using it and being like what and where
is the line? How do you approach it? How can
you check yourself when things start getting out of control?
Those are all the questions I have, And uh, is
(12:24):
is there a world? Is there a future where humans
will just be like, you know, what can we like?
Could my neighborhood just sit around and be like, we're
all happy with what we have. Let's all just make
an agreement that we don't need to buy exotic cars
and park them in our front yards. I think, yeah,
I think that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I was actually I'll jump in because I was kind
of thinking about this recently as well too, which is
the idea of like, maybe the bigger question is kind
of like what is like the value of the dollar
from the standpoint of if you go you want to
go to. You love food, and you spend one hundred
and fifty dollars on dinner, it's gone, you ate it.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's food.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You could go to Taco Bell, you could go to Wendy's.
You go whatever and fulfill that thing that you need,
which is just to eat food for much less. So
why do you attach the value that you have to that?
So some people don't care, Like my parents, they want
a nice dinner, but it's like they'll go to like
Chili's or something like. They don't They're not going to
go out. That's crazy to them that they would do that. However, myself,
(13:30):
to me, I find value in like really curated and
prepared and like story behind it. It's an experience. My
wife and I did a twenty four hours away recently
my daughter's at camp. We went up to Tennessee, left
my son with my parents, our first night away in
like a year and a half because we don't have family.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Close by, and it's just tough.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Just the logistics of it, as well as the way
that Lowick is and all this, and so we had
twenty four hours and so it's like we're going to
go to a hotel. We could save money on a
hotel tell and go to something like medium or moderate.
We're not going to do like a four seasons, Like
we're not driving all the way to Nashville and do
something that's like eight hundred bucks a night. But we
don't want a holiday in for like you know, one
p fifty because it's like we want some of that experience,
(14:13):
but ultimately it's just a place to sleep. It was
just like we just needed to get away, and so
how do you put value on that? And I was
trying to think of that, like how has that changed
for me? Because I think we I think we found
a place for like three eighty That sounds crazy for
one night, but it was like exposed brick a you know,
a refurbished building that had a.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Cool story to it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It was it was like a Parisian It was originally
a warehouse converted to this Parisian place downtown, really great
Parisian restaurant attached to it.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
In the back. It was like secluded.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It was like a great, an amazing twenty four hour period.
We could just leave the car parks, there's all these
kind of things. But it was like I was trying
to wrestle with what's what's the price point, what's the
value of that? And then from a materialism standpoint, I
think it's the same thing we were just talking about watches, Right,
you don't really to watch anymore. If you just want
to keep track of time and you don't have a phone,
you can go get a thirty dollars watch or twenty
(15:05):
dollars watch or whatever, or just to ask people. I guess,
but maybe you find value in a piece, in a thing,
in a story, right, Like the watch that William's wearing
has a story to it. It's worth that five hundred
dollars because it has that kind of thing for you, Tyson,
you're talking about like redoing the inside of the house.
I think that's like, you know, the lifestyle element of
(15:27):
not lifestyle like Instagram, blogger, but more so like I
feel comfortable in my health, my health. I feel comfortable
in my health, Mike, Tyson, here, just joined I feel
comfortable in my house. I feel comfortable. You know, maybe
for Rachel, maybe there's a great increase in quality of
life because these things matter.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
That's my hope. And it doesn't help because we'll see
because you don't seem to care. I don't sew Right. Yeah,
and it's value all the way. I literally I've gotten
no more way out of these furniture pieces, and hopefully
Rachel has. And I just know my bank account's way
(16:07):
way way way way way way way smaller. Not getting
enjoyment out of that part, I'll tell you that much, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
So it is hard because you have to figure out
where you value. I remember I was collecting baseball cards
a long time ago, and I thought, how weird is
it that this piece of cardboard someone will pay one
hundred dollars for and then like this piece of cardboard
with this player. It's the exact same material, and yet
someone will only pay like twenty eight cents, like or
(16:33):
you know. And I was like, so I was talking
to my parents about this, because I was probably like
nine or ten. I was like, I don't understand that,
and it was the idea of value is you know,
whatever someone would pay for it. Yeah, Like that's why
something costs the way it does because there is a
market for it or whatever. But that's because people ascribe
I want that thing more, I need that thing more.
But really it's just a thing. It says, the car
(16:54):
gets you from A to B does it need to
be a Lamborghini or does it need to be a
crappy forward focus that I drove for three years in
La you know. So I think it brings up all that.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I've got a friend who is just like not materialistic
at all. He bought his house in like two thousand
and eight for like fifty grand, which for him for
nailing that, but he hasn't updated it. He hasn't upgraded.
His furniture is mad old. Like it's when I was
(17:24):
going through my divorce, I went and lived at his
house for like a month or something. Yeah, and I
had to go to Walmart and drop like a thousand
dollars just on stuff to make his house like livable
for myself. But that being said, is like he's super
content and happy with that, and there's something really to
be said for that, so that he can He likes
(17:45):
to travel a lot, so he spends his money on
sick trips, and he doesn't worry about like updating his house.
So I think that that's a really good way to go.
But also, like bettering your environment and like leveling up
kind of helps you level up as a person too,
So I think there's like a line between like not
materialistic at all and not being materialistic driven by having
(18:12):
things because other people have them, or like you feel
like you should have it, but kind of like what
you were saying Bradley, like because if it makes you
happy to have this piece of furniture in your house,
and it makes you more comfortable and it makes you
feel like, you know, more okay with how things are,
then it's a good purchase. But yeah, I think that
obviously the vast majority of people are way too far
(18:35):
on the other side and buying things because the neighbors
have it or because they think they should have it. Yeah,
but also not wanting to upgrade your life at all,
which includes your possessions. Sometimes I don't think that's a
good way to go either. But the challenging part of
all this, Tyson, is the second part of your question is, like,
(18:56):
how do you like shape your kids' views on this,
especially nowadays with you know, my daughter ordering to eight
hundred dollars of babies on Amazon. Yes, yes, having sixty
babies and like always you can't have the other day
to Dave and Busters and had a great time. We
played a bunch of games and got some tickets. Well,
(19:18):
if we went to go to Prize and we were
like having the best daddy daughter date, like so much fun,
and then she didn't have enough tickets for like a
baby that she wanted, and just full mental breakdown, like
you know, to the point where she wouldn't get into
her car seat when we left, had to sit there
and the heat just like and it was so good
and then so bad. So that's like the worst element
(19:42):
of all that. That's like the materialistic part that just oh,
it's just terrible, and I don't know how to battle it.
And especially as a single parent who has fifty to
fifty custody, it's like shaping values in your kids is
so difficult because it's like you can only do so
much if your kids are having being exposed to completely
(20:03):
different values at your co parents' house. So I just
think that for single parents they have to try twice
as hard, like really be conscious of those kind of
values that you're demonstrating and that you're showing your daughter.
And that's all that I am like trying to do.
How I'm trying to do it, especially like this summer.
I'm taking her cures now in a couple of weeks,
(20:24):
which is awesome, but also I'm just trying to take
her out into nature like as much as I can,
because that really is like that's worth all the gold
in the world. Like nature is the best thing that
we have and we've become so disconnected from it. And
like last weekend when I was camping, it was inspirational,
(20:45):
like so amazing, just remembering all these things from my
childhood growing up camping and playing outdoors, and like it's not.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Much better at National Park Service right there.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Nice, there you go. Side note, though, there were so
many satellites. Remember when we were kids and you wouldn't
see a satellite the whole time. It's kind of fucked
up these days, Like it's pretty insane how many satellites
there are, just like constantly streaking across the sky. It's
it's brutal.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Because you're just not aware of it on a daily basis,
And then you get away to somewhere like where you were,
and all of a sudden, you're like, I used to
see one, Now I just saw forty.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Like for our generation. We were in the generation where
when we were kids there was none or like yeah,
if you see one, you're like wow, satellite.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, the shooting star based likely it was like,
so rare.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I did just see a shooting star too while I
was taking a pee. It was great.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Wow, Yeah, that's a shooting start.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
On the opposite of like the materialism shit is just nature,
being outdoors and enjoying your friends and family. And I
feel like that's the best way to try to shape
my daughter's perceptions about it is instead of of like,
you know, pushing back against it when she wants all
this stuff. Obviously not catering to everything she wants, but
(22:07):
just showing her that there's this other side of things
that includes just community and the outdoors and hopefully that'll work.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah. One lesson I learned from my dad is he
is willing to share any of his possessions with anybody
without care of whether or not. Like he paid he
got a new truck when he was when I was
in high school. It was the new Dodge Ram, the
(22:40):
first round body Dodge Ram, one of the first in
the state of Utah. He had pre ordered it. He
was so excited for it. He had been driving like
this little Mazda pickup for twenty years and finally was like,
I'm going to get a truck, a real, real truck,
because he's a he's a general, he was a general contractor.
He's constructed and he got it. It was brand new
(23:02):
and it was like the sickest truck. And everywhere we'd drive,
people would wave. It was like having a Tesla when
the first teslas came out, Like people come up in
parking lots and be like, how do you like it?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Everywhere everywhere you went off, yeah, that's exactly, And everywhere
you went it was just like the Dodge Ram, the
one we signed the commercials it's here, what is it?
And it was a duly long bed, so it was
like ultra big gosh yeah. And he would just throw
the keys to people, like people he knew, not like strangers,
(23:37):
but like my friends would come over who were older
than me, who had their driver's licenses. I didn't have
mine yet, and they'd be like, can we drive it?
He's like, yeah, go get it cleaned and top it
off and they'd be like okay, and they would have
so much fun driving it around, and I was like, Dad,
aren't you worried about He's like, nobody's purposely trying to
(23:57):
break your shit. It's an accident, Like, that's an Accident's
happened all the time for whatever reason. I could have
an accident there too. It's like you just have to
assume that the people that are around you aren't purposely
trying to ruin your things and they're just things. And
I was like, okay, that's so. I try to do
that with my kids, Like they get overly protective about
(24:19):
something like, yeah, that can be harding, but hurting someone's
feelings over like not sharing or being extra protective about
something is harder to fix than yea having a stuffy
with an ear ripped off of it. That can be fixed.
So and it's hard, like they don't they still, you know,
(24:42):
will grasp on the things and or go to Target.
And we've they've been saving their money, they've been saving
their money, and we took them to the mall to
spend their birthday money and they just bought this this
stupid as shit, just like and every single purchase. I
(25:03):
was like, hey, do you want this more than fifteen dollars? Yes? Absolutely? Okay,
well it's up to you, Like that's the question you
need to ask yourself. And my youngest Marlowe actually was like,
h maybe I don't, and she actually saved some money
(25:24):
from that trip, which was impressive. Bergen on the other end,
was just like, no, I need I need to be
at zero. Yeah. I was like, okay, if that's I mean,
burn a home in the pocket. In the future, when
we do this again and you have zero money to spend,
you're going to feel And I was like, and if
you see something that's too expensive that you can't afford,
(25:46):
it might be worth it. And she's like, no, not
for me. I need all of my money out of
my purse right now. So man, it's very very tricky
and I don't know the answer, but I going on
this show getting this furniture. I just feel like stepping
(26:09):
away from it a bit or mentally detaching from it
and being content with the things that you have, Like
I have a loving family, I have two beautiful daughters.
You have your health other than my health and my
ankle's fine again, And it's like and a lot of
and I'm forty six. A lot of people don't have
(26:30):
all of that stuff, and so it's like, take the
things that you have that you know that other people
on the outside are looking at, And I mean, who
cares if they're looking at them or not the things
you're appreciative of, but people are looking at those things too.
They're definitely looking at that, like you look at William
or like, oh, he gets to travel everywhere, he gets
to take his daughter to the ocean. They're experiencing all
(26:51):
these great amazing things. Like people look at that, and
that's something that you can't really put a price tag on.
Not everybody can even do that because of who they are.
And so I think that, uh, everyone could owe it
to themselves a little bit to take a step back
and be appreciative and recognize the things you have that
(27:14):
do make you quote unquote rich. Yeah. Yeah, I think
the word rich is really a good note. You hear
all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And people who go away for like a missions project
or whatever, and they you know, they go to another
country or they have to leave.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You don't do that. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Oh yeah, just know you'll come back and you'll be like,
I'm a shitead, yes, because it's almost like you have
to come you adapt from it. I would imagine even
maybe on mission right for you guys, like you're walking around.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, so I went on a Mormon mission. We had
literally nothing. I lived in the Philippines in a hollow
block hut with mice and cockroaches. Ver are probably two years.
Oh bro, we had we had a cobra on our
front doorstep. One time a guy killed with like an
eight inch two by four nice.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Did you know a snake skill? One hundred thousand people
a year.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
They never got me.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
But people are French sharks, but snakes.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I have snakes signs on them. Yeah. I have signs
on all my doors, like look for rattles for the girls,
look for rattlesnakes, look for rattlesnakes. Smart. But uh, I
went on a mission nothing, absolutely nothing. I was on
a mattress on the floor in some of the places,
and I came home and I was so overwhelmed with
(28:35):
all the stuff my parents had in their house. I
was so bugged and overwhelmed with it. That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Stuff goes away in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I need more, and survivors the same.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
The thing is I already experienced that on my mission.
So we come home and everybody's like, I've changed. I
don't need this stuff. Give it two weeks, you're gonna say,
And the money you just spend the twelve grand and
CBS gave you to take tenth place on Survivor and
blow it on the stupidest thing immediately. So dumb. Yeah,
And so it's always waning, and I think it's important
(29:12):
to recheck yourself on that because like, yeah, like if
I nineteen, if twenty one year old me had just
come home from his mission and walked into my house,
he would have barfed everywhere and bunched you in the face. Yeah,
this is way too much. What are you doing? I
was like, I don't know. He's like, why do you
have between the living room, the kitchen and the dining
(29:36):
room you literally have nineteen chairs in there and that's
within like fifteen steps of each other. Who do you
know how many people are coming over today? Why do
we have so many chairs in that room? Now? But
it's so easy to also compare yourself the other way.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
But it's not as bad as them, you know, like internally,
you're like, but it's not as lavish. We have one
nice car, but we don't have two nice cars. You know,
we have a nice but it's only two thousand square feet.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's not you know.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I think there's a lot of justification there for me
something that as I've gotten older, because when I was
young man, like I was so into that I wanted
the nice stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I wanted the super nice car, I wanted the big
house all that.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I think as I've gotten older, whenever you step into that,
you get to experience some of those things, you realize
it really is just kind of like a vapor dream.
It's kind of like not that it doesn't give you
any of this stuff. And that's cliche. You hear it
all the time, like rich people are like I finally
got the thing, and I realized it didn't fulfill me.
But I think when the line that I've heard and
I think is like a good way to check myself
(30:37):
is is when the stuff is controlling me, that's when
it's a problem, right, Yeah, whether it's like like to
your point, like I love that your dad was like
this truck doesn't control me. I control the truck like
I'm in charge of the thing. It's not in charge
of me. So I say, yeah, go for it, go
take it out.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
It's like with kids, I've had to rethink a lot
of like like what I would want to get or
what I want to know, Like do I want to
get a watch that's a thousand dollars, I better be
willing to know that. One day my son may throw
that in the middle of a pond and I'll never
see it again, you know, like is that okay? Or
am I going to be so pissed off? So it's
(31:13):
like in those kind of concepts, it's like, oh, you
know what, that's not going to be okay. I don't
need a thousand dollars watch that. I'm not willing to
do that. So when the stuff starts controlling you and
I see that sometimes We've talked about this on here too.
You know when it's like your parents' basement is full
of stuff, or even your own, your closet, You've got
a bunch of stuff, and you're like, well, now we's.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Got to move to the garage. The garage is pack
got to.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Move that into a storage unit, storage unit we're paying for,
and you're just like, this stuff is controlling, yeah, yeah,
point yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I like what I like doing too, is what I'm
spending money is like thinking about could I spend this
on this or would this be better to spend on
rowing Like I'm my daughter no matter what, it's just
like Okay, I'm going to go drop a few hundred dollars.
Happened this weekend, ear the other day, where I was
going to buy something that was like two hundred and
fifty dollars, and then I was like, I probably don't
(32:04):
need this, and maybe I could put this money like
into her college fund or into doing something nice together.
And I didn't spend it. So I think that that's
a good check for me. And also with buying things,
it's kind of addictive too, and I think that's part
of the problem with it. Like I've noticed that once
I start buying stuff, Yeah, yeah, it goes in waves.
(32:27):
The next day totally I.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Feel the same way.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah yeah, but then I won't buy anything for exactly months.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah. I got made fun of for being underdressed on
House of Villains so often that when I got home,
I bought a bunch of clothes.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
What was the kind of Okay, well, hang on, We've
talked about this on the podcast You Don't You Don't
Care to be In the Fashion Forward, we talked about
like you're.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Just like I'm I'm gonna do. I used to love fashion.
I used to love like I was wearing Diesel jeans
save up spending it like early two thousands. You know
it's good. Did you put that in context? Yeah? Early
last week? Yeah, early two thousands. I loved fashion. I
always was like and I was like the extreme end
(33:14):
of the fashion, Like v nex are in, Okay, I
got the deepest one goes to my belly button. H
skinny jeans are in, Okay, help me get the spray
all of it. Yeah, and even to the point where
I was like wearing shoes that were a half size
too small with skinny jeans so it didn't look like
I had clown feet. Like everything, every single thing was
(33:36):
just like measured, and I loved it, and I think
my mom liked that. I was like into like, you know,
the trends and dressing nice and stuff. And then somewhere
along the way, I think it's as you age, there's
like a part where you just like lock into your
fashion and you don't change from there. Yeah, if you did,
(33:56):
I feel like it would be weird. But my friend,
my other friend, brought it up because I was telling
him the same thing. I was like, at some point
in your life, you cross this barrier where you're like, Okay,
the stuff I'm in at this moment. This is the
fashion era I will be in for the rest of
my life. And that was probably like two years ago
(34:18):
for me, where it's like not skinny, skin tight jeans,
but slim fitting enough but enough to be comfortable. And
now it's that baggy, super giant jeans can with the
past bottoms, and somebody put me in a pair of those,
and I felt like the biggest idiot. And I told
my friend this and he was like, yeah, but if
(34:39):
you wore those around, nobody would bat an eye at you,
because nobody gives a shit except for you. And I
was like, I know, but that's like, what's the most
important is how I feel. How I look at that stuff,
and I feel like I look like a try hard fool,
and so uh, I think.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
So I came home and I was just like, I
need more. I had nothing. I had no nice clothes
to like wear on the show, and I literally was like,
I should stock up a little bit. So during Amazon
Prime Week and I got a few pair of really
nice shoes and I got a few pair of nice
jeans Levi's. I'm a Levi's guy now and that's it.
(35:20):
And I was like, I should get some colored shirts,
but I haven't found a colored shirt that I really love,
and until I do, Like, I'm the type of guy
who's like, okay, Levi's five elevens. That's a fit. Even
I remember those. I'm going to buy four of those. Yeah,
it's a good fit, it's good cut. Yeah, I'm going
to buy four of those in different washes, and then
I'm set.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, if you even own a pair of geans anymore,
I haven't worn jeans and so long.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah do you what do you wear for pants? Just chinos, khakis?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Or like travel pants soon? Oh yeah, the stretchier ones.
Oh yeah, right right, joggers are or just like winter time,
the travel pants that look like slacks but are comfortable.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Your They kind of looked like joggers with their thinner Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yoga we got you.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, well, Lulu makes some of those and some of
the other quints. By the way, I got some quints.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I have TJ Max for ten dollars. It's those ones.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yes, So what was the I'm curious what the like
they're like you showed up like this or was that
your internal No, you were just saying it matters to me. Okay,
comments I'd go the host would be like, oh, thanks
for dressing up again, Tyson. Oh yeah, this isn't that important.
But also like okay, and like it was like every
(36:44):
time oh dressed up again, I was like, yeah, well
I got a card again on and cut off jeans.
So so I don't know what you're talking about. And
it didn't matter except for that. I was like, I
don't if if you were like, let's go somewhere fancy,
I wouldn't have any clothing. But also it's like, I'm
(37:04):
fine wearing a T shirt to somewhere fancy if they
let me in. Sometimes they don't let you in, right,
so just code Yeah, So I don't know which gives
us back to you, like I am materialistic again because
people judged me on a show that I have already
determined I'm victorious of because I'm maybe the only happy
(37:27):
one on the entire test.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But that's the thing is when you surround yourself with
materialistic people, you start to slowly become that. Because it's
really easy to fall into that. I think it's the
hard part is like pushing against it a little. So
if you spent a couple of weeks with people who
are all about their looks and names and all the
things because they're not happy and they're looking for their
happiness and their stuff. It'd be really easy to fall
into that. So that's an important aspect too. Is like
(37:52):
the company that you keep, and.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
The solution is just to go outside, go camping, go outside. Sure, No,
what it gives a shit? Why you look like's owner?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yes, steel better, happier, yes, and only hang out with
people who are way less financially well off than you. Yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I used to park my average car next to the
crappiest car I could find in the parking so I
felt better about like like coming out to my car.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
My cars are both over ten years old. Now, Yeah,
and got the minivan. I still have the minivan despite
the shop. Right, Think it's been fine. Now, Okay, we
went to a new shop. Nice. I said, get this
thing railroad trip ready, and they did. Drove it all
the way up to Utah ten hours, drove it all
the way back ten more hours, no issues. Felt smooth
(38:45):
as butter. It's got one hundred and fifty thousand miles
on it. Keep it going. I every time I look
at a new car. I think I'm spending some of
my kid's future on this thing, like win, So I'm
going to just drive these mofos into the ground. The
second that I don't feel like I can trust it
(39:07):
to get me on a five hour drive, that's when, yep,
it's going. I told my shop guy, the new shop guy,
who's like really built himself up as this honest mechanic,
and everybody, like all the Google reviews, all this stuff,
they all say that same thing about this shop. I said,
(39:27):
you tell me when it's time to trade it in
and get some value out of this thing. Yeah, And
he was like four death over the hill. Yep. So
we'll see if he does.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I think also having these conversations with your kid that
was one of your questions, how do you pass it on?
Is like just trying to like check in with them,
you know, like what is your value of that? Or
you know, could you trade that out for something else?
Or what if we you know, you got twenty bucks,
let's set two dollars aside, you know, kind of kind
of that idea of like financial planning with your kids
(39:59):
is hard, but I think it's also just like some
of it's just like age based. I mean, I think
ourselves included, like you're just different. When you're eight, you
haven't lived enough life to know it's okay for the
stuff you to go away, because it's like, what, I've
only had this two years, that's twenty percent of my life.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah I've had it's like long as I've known.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, yeah, exactly as long as I've known about wanting
a thing. This is the thing and it can't go away.
So you know, some of that too, is just like
age appropriate. It's it's not like you have bad kids
if they're like.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I want to spend all my fifteen No.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I introduced rowan to that concept that one of your parents,
I think has where every time they get something new,
they have to get rid of two things.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yes's mom, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
She's into it, like babies and stuff. She she like
wants to do it. So now yeah she's getting something
new or pretty good about choosing two older things and
giving them to goodwill or whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
And my thing is if you buy something, got to
be his favorite, your new favorite. Yeah, you're buying a
number two? Were a number three at number one?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
David Busters think the other day shouded up getting like
a bouncy ball. And it was like an hour, like
a crazy an Yeah, and she got a bouncing ball
that obviously she forgot about. I don't think she'll go.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
It's under the couch somewhere nobody cares exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I was thinking about carrying it around though, as a
reminder to myself, just like you know.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
What, drill a little hole through it. You can probably
put on your keychain. That'd be kind of cool. Or
wear it as a necklace. Oh even better. So hanging
from adult for our listens out there, how do we
yes three boun balls? How do we what advice do
(41:50):
we have to our listeners about not being materialistic or
to stop being as materialistic or too I don't even know.
Compartmentalize that a little bit. What's the best way to
go about that? What are our takeaways? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I think was just talking about like rich, like are
you rich? Like thinking about your health, about your family,
about the things that are important to you, and then
whether buying something is going to improve those things or
not make any difference or potentially harm those things. So
focusing on real health, your family, your community. And then
(42:28):
as I said, for me and I think it stands
for most people, even if they don't know it. Getting
out into nature and like not being around all that
materialistic crap all the time is a big way to
remind you was actually important.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I like the idea of like actively creating that space,
creating that difference. Almost like if you're trying to lose weight,
but you keep cookies on the counter, it's like, you
got to you got to do something a little different.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
You got to move those away or whatever.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
In that same vein, I think also check the people
around you, Like if you feel like maybe you're cut
up in this nobody I do need this nobody, I
do need, like look at the people around you. Are
they also in that same frame of reference, because then
maybe it's time to like get new friends. But like
you got to like at least realize why you're thinking
this way. Maybe it's them. And to Tyson's point, are
(43:19):
they even happy? You know, most likely this stuff isn't
going to make you happy. It's cliche that the materialism
isn't really going to make you happy, But we still
buy that. We still advertising is so good, Marketing is
so good. It's like, yeah, but I kind of you know,
somebody set some rules.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Were sitting in our own lives too, Like buying a
new house, for instance, Yeah, that does bring you happiness,
but even that is like it it's like a short
period of time and then it's not you know what
I mean. So I think pretty much anything you buy
you might get some joke of me.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
It's an actual chemical hit gratification there.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
For your happiness and well being, Like.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Long term, Yeah, it's true. I think buy things for
yourself or the people you really love, don't buy them
for people outside of that. Ye, Like I've caught myself
even going through my house and being like, ah, people
are gonna come over and they're gonna be like, holy crap,
look at that couch, and you're like, yes, yes, it
(44:18):
doesn't matter, Like that's that nobody's doing that. People will say, Okay,
nice couch, but like nobody really cares, and nobody's like
putting it in their family newsletter about your couch. That's
the guy down the street, you know, on the holiday newsletter.
It's like you never believe ye got a very expensive,
amazing couch that the neighborhood can't stop talking about. Nobody cares,
(44:43):
So let's do it for you, do it for your family,
do it for the people you love, and outside of that,
who cares. So that's it, that's the struggle. We're so
high to be back, and we'll make it a goal
to be less materialistic this week than we were last
week and figure out that balance all the time. So
(45:05):
thank you all for tuning in. We're back, we're happy
to be back. We should be back more regular again
after our summer hiatus. And that's it. Like share, subscribe
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Welcome back to Midlife Crisises. I'm Tyson, one of the hosts.
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
And we really want to hear for you guys too.
We want to hear about your midlife crisises. We want
to know what kind of stuff you are going through
so that we can talk about it and share our
insights about trying to survive this boat as well.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So let's get into it, all right, fellas. Here is
the question of the week. How do we stop being
so materialistic as adults?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Because when I was young, I was so into that.
I wanted the nice stuff. I wanted the super nice car,
I wanted the big house. Whenever you step into that
you get to experience some of those things, you realize
it really is just kind of like a vapor dream.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Is that possible? Can we do it? Are we happier
not chasing the highs of the dopamine hits from buying
something cool? We'll find out.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Midlife Crisises. I'm Bradley Hazemayer. We've
got a couple great hosts here. We got some fun
times ahead, but we just want to say thank you
for being here, thanks for joining in. We're back, You're back.
We had a couple rewind episodes because hey, it's summer,
we're traveling, you're traveling. We got all the midlife stuff
going on. We're trying to pack as much as we
can into these summer weeks, either with your kids, or
(01:44):
get the doctor's appointments done or whatever. I've got a
passport appointments coming up. It's you just got to get
it all done now. And it's been hard to try
to line all of that up. So we gave ourselves
a break, because that's something else in midlife you got
to do, is just say, hey, let's be real, this
is what's going on.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So that's what we've done.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Hopefully you've enjoyed those previous episodes we got new new
for you today, and as you know, Bradley has ameyer,
content creator, father of two and a dog sleeping down
here on the ac event. That's his new jam right now.
He's so smart. He's like, yeah, I think I'm just
gonna lay there, but I'm not alone. We also got
William coming off of a bunch of cool stuff, including
a debut film and a bunch of art that was sold.
(02:23):
So I'm going to toss it to William and he
can bring you up to speed.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Hey, everybody, hope you're having a good summer. Yeah, Bradley's right,
We've been very busy. Lots of fun stuff, lots of
other stuff too. I mean, I'm trying to remember what
all we've talked about since we broke up last time.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
But the band is back together.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I lost another doggie, which was really hard. Mister Gunner
put him down a couple of weeks ago. He was
a really good boy. He was especially like when I
was going through my divorce. Every time I was emotional
at all, he just like sensed it and was like
all up on me, like on my chest.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Padding he ran over and bit your ex every time.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's kind of that version of that.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
That's great, but the opposite, yes, yeah right.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
We had our film release for Awakening, which was really fun.
Been doing some whitewater rafting last weekend, ready for a
bunch of other trips, and still moving into my house.
I did my garage. I organized all my dive gear
I've got.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I've got I bet your garage just as like racks
on racks of.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Now it was just trails on piles of ship. Now
it's racks on racks.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh wow, I.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Haven't all piled up. I mean, I've got it all
boxed up. I've got like ten big boxes of dive gear,
so I'm about to be slanging a bunch of dive gear. Also,
been doing a bunch of shooting for Citizen. They just
came up with their new Aqua Land anniversary watch, and
it's my favorite one that they've done so far. It's
got like ever it's got Yeah, it's got a digital
(04:00):
component too. It's kind of hard to seek, yeah yeah,
but so it's got like, you know, a depth gauge,
it's got alarms on it, it's got timers. So it's
the piece.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
It's all about it. So why is it Land? Aquaaland right,
because you've got it, you can wear it. You can
wear it on the land and in the water. That's
what I'm saying. So that yeah, it was like does
it have all I don't think it has now, Timeter.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
The thing about it was it was the like the
last best actual dive gauge watch before they started going
all digital, because now with a dive watch, as William
would certainly tell you, you don't really need a dive watch.
You've got so many computers on you that are telling
you everything, right, the dive watch is really just kind
of like part of the experience, part of the look.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, you can get dive computer apps now for your
smart watch, so yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Okay, but it is a super dope looking watch, and
it's a throwback to the original, which is like forty
years forty years ago, so it's got got those retro vibes.
And I guess it was actually in a movie with Genre, know,
French diving movie. Remember Genre know you mean he got
Cousto No Genre, No, the actor. It is funny that
(05:17):
their names were so similar. He always wore those circle glasses.
What was the movie he was in with Natalie Portman?
He was like an assassin.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Super young.
She was like mill and he would he was. He
would drink milk every night and then just sit awake
waiting for the bad guys to come.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
That was before got milk, that should have probably been there,
got bad.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
He ever, he'd bring like two gallons of milk ham
and then just sit down in his chair facing the
door to his apartment, waiting for trouble to come and
find him. I would watch the door, you trust, somebody
drink milk. Milk, Yes, I remember that show.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I was texting you guys the other day because I
was photographing the new Aqua land up in the mountains
here and there was a giant bull moose close to us,
and I was thinking about trying to photograph this big
bull moose. And you know, I was telling Tyson, maybe
I should build like a moose cage to photograph it,
or make a little camera inside of a robot duck
(06:21):
and try to get them up to it. So, yeah,
I have new plans. I'm actually tomorrow, Monday, I'm going
to go look for him again and see.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I'm going to tell you, William, the best shot would
be that bubble lens that's on top and underneath water.
Oh yeah, yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's pretty murky.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah yeah, but you want it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
If anything, I'll get stumped to death, but I'll still.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You're not going to find him. Yeah, it's going to
be hard to find a moose in the water again.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I know, I was pretty lucky.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
You should have tossed the watch onto one of his antlers. Yeah,
is he walking around with a watch on the anler.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I've seen stories in the water before, and I've also
I hit a moose with a snowball once when it
was it was on the cross country. It was on
the cross country ski track and it would not move,
and I sat there for like half an hour waiting
for it to get out of my way and it wouldn't.
So I threw a snowball at it, and it did
(07:22):
not care.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I do.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
A moose stop. It didn't flinch, its body didn't do anything.
It just is like took another snowball. And so I
was there like probably over an hour waiting for that
thing to clear.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I don't think people are aware how imposing a moose is.
It's like a better sized elephant, like, it's just moose.
Moosin are massive and they're big old horns. When you
get close, you're just like, wait a second, If this
thing sneezes at me, I'm dead.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Like you can think they'll have fun. They are, Yeah,
I feel just by look Snowball was just like yeah, yeah,
it did nothing, yeah, nothing, And so I, uh, yeah,
that's but and I know they can get real stompy
and hurt people, but most of the time they just
(08:17):
want to go them. No, you don't want to go
in the When they're that they get really aggressive or
like or Alaska.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I heard that when there's fruit on the ground at
ferments and they eat it and they get all drunk.
And that's what they're real rowdy drunk moose.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Drunk moose. They're angry drunk moose. Are angry moose.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Drunk moose sounds like the the mascot of a small
liberal arts school, or it sounds like a dart miss
drunk moose.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, or like drunk moose at Coachella six. Yes, all
of that sounds very good. So I think, Yeah, a
lot going on. I don't have that watch yet. I'm
jealous yet I did wear sack.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
That's how rare they are. They send it to me
for shooting and then they said you got to send
it back.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Wow. Yeah, only people like William get to hold it
to keep one in partners. Yeah right, I should reach
out and see them.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
For the whole world worldwide for the w Yeah, dang,
so get on it, Tyson.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
How much are they like five, five or six hundred? Yeah?
Oh okay, yeah, not crazy. No, it's not crazy. You
said five, and I thought five thousand. I was like, oh,
it's like their highest end. Oh d yeah, five five
hund does half a rack. I wore a one of
those surfing wave watches from them for that's been my
(09:49):
daily driver. I don't know why we're talking about watches
right now because we're midlife bros. It's all right, we're
growing up. That's part of growing up.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I've been having also whirlwind some and traveled got home
from filming House of Villains.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Have we talked about that yet that you've been on there?
I don't know if we've even I don't know if
you know, but on air here I don't know, or
on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I mean it's been announced publicly. The cast has so
it's fine to talk about. And that experience, coupled with
a few other things, have led me to my question today.
I guess the build up is, we bought a new
house last year and we've been in the process of
(10:34):
furnishing it, and we've just we hired an interior designer
and then they stockpile all the furniture and then come
and bring it all at one time, so that it's
not like a long slow burn. It's just like Bam,
there you go. Yeah, so you again, so you're not
inconvenienced a bunch of times throughout the months as furniture
(10:57):
rolls in slowly. And my question is materialism. How do
we approach materialism? How do we avoid materialism? Is like?
And how do we teach our kids not to be materialistic?
(11:18):
I know that a lot of these, like all the
influencers now, all the like finance bros on that are
telling you how to like drive cars and do all
this shit, and none of it fucking matters. It doesn't matter.
But how do you get in that mindset? And how
do you teach that to your kids? I go on
this show and I'm looking around at these people and
(11:41):
I'm like, most of these people are really sad, and
anything I would say against them is like punching down
because I'm happy, right, which is the greatest gift of all.
It's the greatest. So I'm like, what can I do?
And I think it's just that materialism does really affect people,
(12:02):
like seeing what owners have and wanting it and not
even needing it and not even getting it, and then
not even using it and being like what and where
is the line? How do you approach it? How can
you check yourself when things start getting out of control?
Those are all the questions I have, And uh, is
(12:24):
is there a world? Is there a future where humans
will just be like, you know, what can we like?
Could my neighborhood just sit around and be like, we're
all happy with what we have. Let's all just make
an agreement that we don't need to buy exotic cars
and park them in our front yards. I think, yeah,
I think that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I was actually I'll jump in because I was kind
of thinking about this recently as well too, which is
the idea of like, maybe the bigger question is kind
of like what is like the value of the dollar
from the standpoint of if you go you want to
go to. You love food, and you spend one hundred
and fifty dollars on dinner, it's gone, you ate it.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's food.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You could go to Taco Bell, you could go to Wendy's.
You go whatever and fulfill that thing that you need,
which is just to eat food for much less. So
why do you attach the value that you have to that?
So some people don't care, Like my parents, they want
a nice dinner, but it's like they'll go to like
Chili's or something like. They don't They're not going to
go out. That's crazy to them that they would do that. However, myself,
(13:30):
to me, I find value in like really curated and
prepared and like story behind it. It's an experience. My
wife and I did a twenty four hours away recently
my daughter's at camp. We went up to Tennessee, left
my son with my parents, our first night away in
like a year and a half because we don't have family.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Close by, and it's just tough.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Just the logistics of it, as well as the way
that Lowick is and all this, and so we had
twenty four hours and so it's like we're going to
go to a hotel. We could save money on a
hotel tell and go to something like medium or moderate.
We're not going to do like a four seasons, Like
we're not driving all the way to Nashville and do
something that's like eight hundred bucks a night. But we
don't want a holiday in for like you know, one
p fifty because it's like we want some of that experience,
(14:13):
but ultimately it's just a place to sleep. It was
just like we just needed to get away, and so
how do you put value on that? And I was
trying to think of that, like how has that changed
for me? Because I think we I think we found
a place for like three eighty That sounds crazy for
one night, but it was like exposed brick a you know,
a refurbished building that had a.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Cool story to it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It was it was like a Parisian It was originally
a warehouse converted to this Parisian place downtown, really great
Parisian restaurant attached to it.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
In the back. It was like secluded.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It was like a great, an amazing twenty four hour period.
We could just leave the car parks, there's all these
kind of things. But it was like I was trying
to wrestle with what's what's the price point, what's the
value of that? And then from a materialism standpoint, I
think it's the same thing we were just talking about watches, Right,
you don't really to watch anymore. If you just want
to keep track of time and you don't have a phone,
you can go get a thirty dollars watch or twenty
(15:05):
dollars watch or whatever, or just to ask people. I guess,
but maybe you find value in a piece, in a thing,
in a story, right, Like the watch that William's wearing
has a story to it. It's worth that five hundred
dollars because it has that kind of thing for you, Tyson,
you're talking about like redoing the inside of the house.
I think that's like, you know, the lifestyle element of
(15:27):
not lifestyle like Instagram, blogger, but more so like I
feel comfortable in my health, my health. I feel comfortable
in my health, Mike, Tyson, here, just joined I feel
comfortable in my house. I feel comfortable. You know, maybe
for Rachel, maybe there's a great increase in quality of
life because these things matter.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
That's my hope. And it doesn't help because we'll see
because you don't seem to care. I don't sew Right. Yeah,
and it's value all the way. I literally I've gotten
no more way out of these furniture pieces, and hopefully
Rachel has. And I just know my bank account's way
(16:07):
way way way way way way way smaller. Not getting
enjoyment out of that part, I'll tell you that much, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
So it is hard because you have to figure out
where you value. I remember I was collecting baseball cards
a long time ago, and I thought, how weird is
it that this piece of cardboard someone will pay one
hundred dollars for and then like this piece of cardboard
with this player. It's the exact same material, and yet
someone will only pay like twenty eight cents, like or
(16:33):
you know. And I was like, so I was talking
to my parents about this, because I was probably like
nine or ten. I was like, I don't understand that,
and it was the idea of value is you know,
whatever someone would pay for it. Yeah, Like that's why
something costs the way it does because there is a
market for it or whatever. But that's because people ascribe
I want that thing more, I need that thing more.
But really it's just a thing. It says, the car
(16:54):
gets you from A to B does it need to
be a Lamborghini or does it need to be a
crappy forward focus that I drove for three years in
La you know. So I think it brings up all that.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I've got a friend who is just like not materialistic
at all. He bought his house in like two thousand
and eight for like fifty grand, which for him for
nailing that, but he hasn't updated it. He hasn't upgraded.
His furniture is mad old. Like it's when I was
(17:24):
going through my divorce, I went and lived at his
house for like a month or something. Yeah, and I
had to go to Walmart and drop like a thousand
dollars just on stuff to make his house like livable
for myself. But that being said, is like he's super
content and happy with that, and there's something really to
be said for that, so that he can He likes
(17:45):
to travel a lot, so he spends his money on
sick trips, and he doesn't worry about like updating his house.
So I think that that's a really good way to go.
But also, like bettering your environment and like leveling up
kind of helps you level up as a person too,
So I think there's like a line between like not
materialistic at all and not being materialistic driven by having
(18:12):
things because other people have them, or like you feel
like you should have it, but kind of like what
you were saying Bradley, like because if it makes you
happy to have this piece of furniture in your house,
and it makes you more comfortable and it makes you
feel like, you know, more okay with how things are,
then it's a good purchase. But yeah, I think that
obviously the vast majority of people are way too far
(18:35):
on the other side and buying things because the neighbors
have it or because they think they should have it. Yeah,
but also not wanting to upgrade your life at all,
which includes your possessions. Sometimes I don't think that's a
good way to go either. But the challenging part of
all this, Tyson, is the second part of your question is, like,
(18:56):
how do you like shape your kids' views on this,
especially nowadays with you know, my daughter ordering to eight
hundred dollars of babies on Amazon. Yes, yes, having sixty
babies and like always you can't have the other day
to Dave and Busters and had a great time. We
played a bunch of games and got some tickets. Well,
(19:18):
if we went to go to Prize and we were
like having the best daddy daughter date, like so much fun,
and then she didn't have enough tickets for like a
baby that she wanted, and just full mental breakdown, like
you know, to the point where she wouldn't get into
her car seat when we left, had to sit there
and the heat just like and it was so good
and then so bad. So that's like the worst element
(19:42):
of all that. That's like the materialistic part that just oh,
it's just terrible, and I don't know how to battle it.
And especially as a single parent who has fifty to
fifty custody, it's like shaping values in your kids is
so difficult because it's like you can only do so
much if your kids are having being exposed to completely
(20:03):
different values at your co parents' house. So I just
think that for single parents they have to try twice
as hard, like really be conscious of those kind of
values that you're demonstrating and that you're showing your daughter.
And that's all that I am like trying to do.
How I'm trying to do it, especially like this summer.
I'm taking her cures now in a couple of weeks,
(20:24):
which is awesome, but also I'm just trying to take
her out into nature like as much as I can,
because that really is like that's worth all the gold
in the world. Like nature is the best thing that
we have and we've become so disconnected from it. And
like last weekend when I was camping, it was inspirational,
(20:45):
like so amazing, just remembering all these things from my
childhood growing up camping and playing outdoors, and like it's not.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Much better at National Park Service right there.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Nice, there you go. Side note, though, there were so
many satellites. Remember when we were kids and you wouldn't
see a satellite the whole time. It's kind of fucked
up these days, Like it's pretty insane how many satellites
there are, just like constantly streaking across the sky. It's
it's brutal.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Because you're just not aware of it on a daily basis,
And then you get away to somewhere like where you were,
and all of a sudden, you're like, I used to
see one, Now I just saw forty.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Like for our generation. We were in the generation where
when we were kids there was none or like yeah,
if you see one, you're like wow, satellite.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, the shooting star based likely it was like,
so rare.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I did just see a shooting star too while I
was taking a pee. It was great.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Wow, Yeah, that's a shooting start.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
On the opposite of like the materialism shit is just nature,
being outdoors and enjoying your friends and family. And I
feel like that's the best way to try to shape
my daughter's perceptions about it is instead of of like,
you know, pushing back against it when she wants all
this stuff. Obviously not catering to everything she wants, but
(22:07):
just showing her that there's this other side of things
that includes just community and the outdoors and hopefully that'll work.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah. One lesson I learned from my dad is he
is willing to share any of his possessions with anybody
without care of whether or not. Like he paid he
got a new truck when he was when I was
in high school. It was the new Dodge Ram, the
(22:40):
first round body Dodge Ram, one of the first in
the state of Utah. He had pre ordered it. He
was so excited for it. He had been driving like
this little Mazda pickup for twenty years and finally was like,
I'm going to get a truck, a real, real truck,
because he's a he's a general, he was a general contractor.
He's constructed and he got it. It was brand new
(23:02):
and it was like the sickest truck. And everywhere we'd drive,
people would wave. It was like having a Tesla when
the first teslas came out, Like people come up in
parking lots and be like, how do you like it?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Everywhere everywhere you went off, yeah, that's exactly, And everywhere
you went it was just like the Dodge Ram, the
one we signed the commercials it's here, what is it?
And it was a duly long bed, so it was
like ultra big gosh yeah. And he would just throw
the keys to people, like people he knew, not like strangers,
(23:37):
but like my friends would come over who were older
than me, who had their driver's licenses. I didn't have
mine yet, and they'd be like, can we drive it?
He's like, yeah, go get it cleaned and top it
off and they'd be like okay, and they would have
so much fun driving it around, and I was like, Dad,
aren't you worried about He's like, nobody's purposely trying to
(23:57):
break your shit. It's an accident, Like, that's an Accident's
happened all the time for whatever reason. I could have
an accident there too. It's like you just have to
assume that the people that are around you aren't purposely
trying to ruin your things and they're just things. And
I was like, okay, that's so. I try to do
that with my kids, Like they get overly protective about
(24:19):
something like, yeah, that can be harding, but hurting someone's
feelings over like not sharing or being extra protective about
something is harder to fix than yea having a stuffy
with an ear ripped off of it. That can be fixed.
So and it's hard, like they don't they still, you know,
(24:42):
will grasp on the things and or go to Target.
And we've they've been saving their money, they've been saving
their money, and we took them to the mall to
spend their birthday money and they just bought this this
stupid as shit, just like and every single purchase. I
(25:03):
was like, hey, do you want this more than fifteen dollars? Yes? Absolutely? Okay,
well it's up to you, Like that's the question you
need to ask yourself. And my youngest Marlowe actually was like,
h maybe I don't, and she actually saved some money
(25:24):
from that trip, which was impressive. Bergen on the other end,
was just like, no, I need I need to be
at zero. Yeah. I was like, okay, if that's I mean,
burn a home in the pocket. In the future, when
we do this again and you have zero money to spend,
you're going to feel And I was like, and if
you see something that's too expensive that you can't afford,
(25:46):
it might be worth it. And she's like, no, not
for me. I need all of my money out of
my purse right now. So man, it's very very tricky
and I don't know the answer, but I going on
this show getting this furniture. I just feel like stepping
(26:09):
away from it a bit or mentally detaching from it
and being content with the things that you have, Like
I have a loving family, I have two beautiful daughters.
You have your health other than my health and my
ankle's fine again, And it's like and a lot of
and I'm forty six. A lot of people don't have
(26:30):
all of that stuff, and so it's like, take the
things that you have that you know that other people
on the outside are looking at, And I mean, who
cares if they're looking at them or not the things
you're appreciative of, but people are looking at those things too.
They're definitely looking at that, like you look at William
or like, oh, he gets to travel everywhere, he gets
to take his daughter to the ocean. They're experiencing all
(26:51):
these great amazing things. Like people look at that, and
that's something that you can't really put a price tag on.
Not everybody can even do that because of who they are.
And so I think that, uh, everyone could owe it
to themselves a little bit to take a step back
and be appreciative and recognize the things you have that
(27:14):
do make you quote unquote rich. Yeah. Yeah, I think
the word rich is really a good note. You hear
all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And people who go away for like a missions project
or whatever, and they you know, they go to another
country or they have to leave.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You don't do that. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Oh yeah, just know you'll come back and you'll be like,
I'm a shitead, yes, because it's almost like you have
to come you adapt from it. I would imagine even
maybe on mission right for you guys, like you're walking around.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, so I went on a Mormon mission. We had
literally nothing. I lived in the Philippines in a hollow
block hut with mice and cockroaches. Ver are probably two years.
Oh bro, we had we had a cobra on our
front doorstep. One time a guy killed with like an
eight inch two by four nice.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Did you know a snake skill? One hundred thousand people
a year.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
They never got me.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
But people are French sharks, but snakes.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I have snakes signs on them. Yeah. I have signs
on all my doors, like look for rattles for the girls,
look for rattlesnakes, look for rattlesnakes. Smart. But uh, I
went on a mission nothing, absolutely nothing. I was on
a mattress on the floor in some of the places,
and I came home and I was so overwhelmed with
(28:35):
all the stuff my parents had in their house. I
was so bugged and overwhelmed with it. That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Stuff goes away in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I need more, and survivors the same.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
The thing is I already experienced that on my mission.
So we come home and everybody's like, I've changed. I
don't need this stuff. Give it two weeks, you're gonna say,
And the money you just spend the twelve grand and
CBS gave you to take tenth place on Survivor and
blow it on the stupidest thing immediately. So dumb. Yeah,
And so it's always waning, and I think it's important
(29:12):
to recheck yourself on that because like, yeah, like if
I nineteen, if twenty one year old me had just
come home from his mission and walked into my house,
he would have barfed everywhere and bunched you in the face. Yeah,
this is way too much. What are you doing? I
was like, I don't know. He's like, why do you
have between the living room, the kitchen and the dining
(29:36):
room you literally have nineteen chairs in there and that's
within like fifteen steps of each other. Who do you
know how many people are coming over today? Why do
we have so many chairs in that room? Now? But
it's so easy to also compare yourself the other way.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
But it's not as bad as them, you know, like internally,
you're like, but it's not as lavish. We have one
nice car, but we don't have two nice cars. You know,
we have a nice but it's only two thousand square feet.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's not you know.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I think there's a lot of justification there for me
something that as I've gotten older, because when I was
young man, like I was so into that I wanted
the nice stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I wanted the super nice car, I wanted the big
house all that.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I think as I've gotten older, whenever you step into that,
you get to experience some of those things, you realize
it really is just kind of like a vapor dream.
It's kind of like not that it doesn't give you
any of this stuff. And that's cliche. You hear it
all the time, like rich people are like I finally
got the thing, and I realized it didn't fulfill me.
But I think when the line that I've heard and
I think is like a good way to check myself
(30:37):
is is when the stuff is controlling me, that's when
it's a problem, right, Yeah, whether it's like like to
your point, like I love that your dad was like
this truck doesn't control me. I control the truck like
I'm in charge of the thing. It's not in charge
of me. So I say, yeah, go for it, go
take it out.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
It's like with kids, I've had to rethink a lot
of like like what I would want to get or
what I want to know, Like do I want to
get a watch that's a thousand dollars, I better be
willing to know that. One day my son may throw
that in the middle of a pond and I'll never
see it again, you know, like is that okay? Or
am I going to be so pissed off? So it's
(31:13):
like in those kind of concepts, it's like, oh, you
know what, that's not going to be okay. I don't
need a thousand dollars watch that. I'm not willing to
do that. So when the stuff starts controlling you and
I see that sometimes We've talked about this on here too.
You know when it's like your parents' basement is full
of stuff, or even your own, your closet, You've got
a bunch of stuff, and you're like, well, now we's.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Got to move to the garage. The garage is pack
got to.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Move that into a storage unit, storage unit we're paying for,
and you're just like, this stuff is controlling, yeah, yeah,
point yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I like what I like doing too, is what I'm
spending money is like thinking about could I spend this
on this or would this be better to spend on
rowing Like I'm my daughter no matter what, it's just
like Okay, I'm going to go drop a few hundred dollars.
Happened this weekend, ear the other day, where I was
going to buy something that was like two hundred and
fifty dollars, and then I was like, I probably don't
(32:04):
need this, and maybe I could put this money like
into her college fund or into doing something nice together.
And I didn't spend it. So I think that that's
a good check for me. And also with buying things,
it's kind of addictive too, and I think that's part
of the problem with it. Like I've noticed that once
I start buying stuff, Yeah, yeah, it goes in waves.
(32:27):
The next day totally I.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Feel the same way.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah yeah, but then I won't buy anything for exactly months.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah. I got made fun of for being underdressed on
House of Villains so often that when I got home,
I bought a bunch of clothes.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
What was the kind of Okay, well, hang on, We've
talked about this on the podcast You Don't You Don't
Care to be In the Fashion Forward, we talked about
like you're.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Just like I'm I'm gonna do. I used to love fashion.
I used to love like I was wearing Diesel jeans
save up spending it like early two thousands. You know
it's good. Did you put that in context? Yeah? Early
last week? Yeah, early two thousands. I loved fashion. I
always was like and I was like the extreme end
(33:14):
of the fashion, Like v nex are in, Okay, I
got the deepest one goes to my belly button. H
skinny jeans are in, Okay, help me get the spray
all of it. Yeah, and even to the point where
I was like wearing shoes that were a half size
too small with skinny jeans so it didn't look like
I had clown feet. Like everything, every single thing was
(33:36):
just like measured, and I loved it, and I think
my mom liked that. I was like into like, you know,
the trends and dressing nice and stuff. And then somewhere
along the way, I think it's as you age, there's
like a part where you just like lock into your
fashion and you don't change from there. Yeah, if you did,
(33:56):
I feel like it would be weird. But my friend,
my other friend, brought it up because I was telling
him the same thing. I was like, at some point
in your life, you cross this barrier where you're like, Okay,
the stuff I'm in at this moment. This is the
fashion era I will be in for the rest of
my life. And that was probably like two years ago
(34:18):
for me, where it's like not skinny, skin tight jeans,
but slim fitting enough but enough to be comfortable. And
now it's that baggy, super giant jeans can with the
past bottoms, and somebody put me in a pair of those,
and I felt like the biggest idiot. And I told
my friend this and he was like, yeah, but if
(34:39):
you wore those around, nobody would bat an eye at you,
because nobody gives a shit except for you. And I
was like, I know, but that's like, what's the most
important is how I feel. How I look at that stuff,
and I feel like I look like a try hard fool,
and so uh, I think.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
So I came home and I was just like, I
need more. I had nothing. I had no nice clothes
to like wear on the show, and I literally was like,
I should stock up a little bit. So during Amazon
Prime Week and I got a few pair of really
nice shoes and I got a few pair of nice
jeans Levi's. I'm a Levi's guy now and that's it.
(35:20):
And I was like, I should get some colored shirts,
but I haven't found a colored shirt that I really love,
and until I do, Like, I'm the type of guy
who's like, okay, Levi's five elevens. That's a fit. Even
I remember those. I'm going to buy four of those. Yeah,
it's a good fit, it's good cut. Yeah, I'm going
to buy four of those in different washes, and then
I'm set.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, if you even own a pair of geans anymore,
I haven't worn jeans and so long.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah do you what do you wear for pants? Just chinos, khakis?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Or like travel pants soon? Oh yeah, the stretchier ones.
Oh yeah, right right, joggers are or just like winter time,
the travel pants that look like slacks but are comfortable.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Your They kind of looked like joggers with their thinner Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yoga we got you.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, well, Lulu makes some of those and some of
the other quints. By the way, I got some quints.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I have TJ Max for ten dollars. It's those ones.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yes, So what was the I'm curious what the like
they're like you showed up like this or was that
your internal No, you were just saying it matters to me. Okay,
comments I'd go the host would be like, oh, thanks
for dressing up again, Tyson. Oh yeah, this isn't that important.
But also like okay, and like it was like every
(36:44):
time oh dressed up again, I was like, yeah, well
I got a card again on and cut off jeans.
So so I don't know what you're talking about. And
it didn't matter except for that. I was like, I
don't if if you were like, let's go somewhere fancy,
I wouldn't have any clothing. But also it's like, I'm
(37:04):
fine wearing a T shirt to somewhere fancy if they
let me in. Sometimes they don't let you in, right,
so just code Yeah, So I don't know which gives
us back to you, like I am materialistic again because
people judged me on a show that I have already
determined I'm victorious of because I'm maybe the only happy
(37:27):
one on the entire test.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But that's the thing is when you surround yourself with
materialistic people, you start to slowly become that. Because it's
really easy to fall into that. I think it's the
hard part is like pushing against it a little. So
if you spent a couple of weeks with people who
are all about their looks and names and all the
things because they're not happy and they're looking for their
happiness and their stuff. It'd be really easy to fall
into that. So that's an important aspect too. Is like
(37:52):
the company that you keep, and.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
The solution is just to go outside, go camping, go outside. Sure, No,
what it gives a shit? Why you look like's owner?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yes, steel better, happier, yes, and only hang out with
people who are way less financially well off than you. Yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I used to park my average car next to the
crappiest car I could find in the parking so I
felt better about like like coming out to my car.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
My cars are both over ten years old. Now, Yeah,
and got the minivan. I still have the minivan despite
the shop. Right, Think it's been fine. Now, Okay, we
went to a new shop. Nice. I said, get this
thing railroad trip ready, and they did. Drove it all
the way up to Utah ten hours, drove it all
the way back ten more hours, no issues. Felt smooth
(38:45):
as butter. It's got one hundred and fifty thousand miles
on it. Keep it going. I every time I look
at a new car. I think I'm spending some of
my kid's future on this thing, like win, So I'm
going to just drive these mofos into the ground. The
second that I don't feel like I can trust it
(39:07):
to get me on a five hour drive, that's when, yep,
it's going. I told my shop guy, the new shop guy,
who's like really built himself up as this honest mechanic,
and everybody, like all the Google reviews, all this stuff,
they all say that same thing about this shop. I said,
(39:27):
you tell me when it's time to trade it in
and get some value out of this thing. Yeah, And
he was like four death over the hill. Yep. So
we'll see if he does.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I think also having these conversations with your kid that
was one of your questions, how do you pass it on?
Is like just trying to like check in with them,
you know, like what is your value of that? Or
you know, could you trade that out for something else?
Or what if we you know, you got twenty bucks,
let's set two dollars aside, you know, kind of kind
of that idea of like financial planning with your kids
(39:59):
is hard, but I think it's also just like some
of it's just like age based. I mean, I think
ourselves included, like you're just different. When you're eight, you
haven't lived enough life to know it's okay for the
stuff you to go away, because it's like, what, I've
only had this two years, that's twenty percent of my life.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah I've had it's like long as I've known.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, yeah, exactly as long as I've known about wanting
a thing. This is the thing and it can't go away.
So you know, some of that too, is just like
age appropriate. It's it's not like you have bad kids
if they're like.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I want to spend all my fifteen No.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I introduced rowan to that concept that one of your parents,
I think has where every time they get something new,
they have to get rid of two things.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yes's mom, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
She's into it, like babies and stuff. She she like
wants to do it. So now yeah she's getting something
new or pretty good about choosing two older things and
giving them to goodwill or whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
And my thing is if you buy something, got to
be his favorite, your new favorite. Yeah, you're buying a
number two? Were a number three at number one?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
David Busters think the other day shouded up getting like
a bouncy ball. And it was like an hour, like
a crazy an Yeah, and she got a bouncing ball
that obviously she forgot about. I don't think she'll go.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
It's under the couch somewhere nobody cares exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I was thinking about carrying it around though, as a
reminder to myself, just like you know.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
What, drill a little hole through it. You can probably
put on your keychain. That'd be kind of cool. Or
wear it as a necklace. Oh even better. So hanging
from adult for our listens out there, how do we
yes three boun balls? How do we what advice do
(41:50):
we have to our listeners about not being materialistic or
to stop being as materialistic or too I don't even know.
Compartmentalize that a little bit. What's the best way to
go about that? What are our takeaways? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I think was just talking about like rich, like are
you rich? Like thinking about your health, about your family,
about the things that are important to you, and then
whether buying something is going to improve those things or
not make any difference or potentially harm those things. So
focusing on real health, your family, your community. And then
(42:28):
as I said, for me and I think it stands
for most people, even if they don't know it. Getting
out into nature and like not being around all that
materialistic crap all the time is a big way to
remind you was actually important.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I like the idea of like actively creating that space,
creating that difference. Almost like if you're trying to lose weight,
but you keep cookies on the counter, it's like, you
got to you got to do something a little different.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
You got to move those away or whatever.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
In that same vein, I think also check the people
around you, Like if you feel like maybe you're cut
up in this nobody I do need this nobody, I
do need, like look at the people around you. Are
they also in that same frame of reference, because then
maybe it's time to like get new friends. But like
you got to like at least realize why you're thinking
this way. Maybe it's them. And to Tyson's point, are
(43:19):
they even happy? You know, most likely this stuff isn't
going to make you happy. It's cliche that the materialism
isn't really going to make you happy, But we still
buy that. We still advertising is so good, Marketing is
so good. It's like, yeah, but I kind of you know,
somebody set some rules.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Were sitting in our own lives too, Like buying a
new house, for instance, Yeah, that does bring you happiness,
but even that is like it it's like a short
period of time and then it's not you know what
I mean. So I think pretty much anything you buy
you might get some joke of me.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
It's an actual chemical hit gratification there.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
For your happiness and well being, Like.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Long term, Yeah, it's true. I think buy things for
yourself or the people you really love, don't buy them
for people outside of that. Ye, Like I've caught myself
even going through my house and being like, ah, people
are gonna come over and they're gonna be like, holy crap,
look at that couch, and you're like, yes, yes, it
(44:18):
doesn't matter, Like that's that nobody's doing that. People will say, Okay,
nice couch, but like nobody really cares, and nobody's like
putting it in their family newsletter about your couch. That's
the guy down the street, you know, on the holiday newsletter.
It's like you never believe ye got a very expensive,
amazing couch that the neighborhood can't stop talking about. Nobody cares,
(44:43):
So let's do it for you, do it for your family,
do it for the people you love, and outside of that,
who cares. So that's it, that's the struggle. We're so
high to be back, and we'll make it a goal
to be less materialistic this week than we were last
week and figure out that balance all the time. So
(45:05):
thank you all for tuning in. We're back, we're happy
to be back. We should be back more regular again
after our summer hiatus. And that's it. Like share, subscribe
and midlife Crisis is out, keep on crisises in rece
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