Dracula III: Legacy & Ginger Snaps: The Beginning

We keep on rolling with our Werewolf vs Vampire theme. This time, Rutger Hauer shows up for thirty seconds as Dracula in DRACULA III: LEGACY. Then our favorite werewolf sisters travel back in time to show up old timey werewolves in GINGER SNAPS: THE BEGINNING.

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Speaker 3 (01:00):
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doesn't want to go to bed.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
I have to because that movie sounds awesome. This is
the first I've ever heard of it. Now, I did
not get to looking at the movie. The next one
that I was looking at. It sparked my interest because
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Speaker 5 (01:42):
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Speaker 4 (01:47):
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which is not a good sentence because this is a
new movie. Looks like an old cover but yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
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interested in that when I thought that maybe it was.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
An old movie, yeah, yep, and reading it, I'm like, yeah,
this is a new one.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Never mind.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Then yeah, I don't care. I can close that. But
I have now ordered Black Eye and it will be
on at my house on Saturday. I should be watching
horror movies, but I've been doing a whole lot of
that lately. I don't know why. I had a doctor's
appointment a couple of like a week and a half ago.

(02:34):
It turns out my human hemoglobe and count is low
some a little anemic at the moment, which explains why
I have not wanted to do just about anything.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
So do they know why you're an emic?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Uh no, there's uh there's been an order put in
for me to get a colonospy, which is always fun.
So it's not like low and enough that they're like,
oh my god, we got to figure this out immediately,
but it's low enough for them to be like, well,
this isn't this isn't great, this is an ideal, So

(03:08):
maybe we need to figure out what's going on with this. M.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I've never had my HEPA glove and checked. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Maybe I have to get a blood test like every
six months or so because of the diabetes stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah I probably shouldn't do and stuff like that too,
to be honest.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
And yeah, just to keep my A one C and
check and what was my point I don't remember, but
oh yeah I just got that done and they're like, huh,
this is I mean it's like the test results do
show like like where on the scale it is, and

(03:47):
it's yeah, it's not like, oh my god, this is
alarmingly low, but this is like, oh, just out of
normal range. So this is this is maybe something to
take a look at. So I was like well, that
explains a lot, because I have been feeling run down
like you would not believe over the past couple of months.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
So yeah, did they give you some dietary advice and stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Oh no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
They want you to come back so they can describe
you somethings.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Now, all my other stuff they're kind of happy with.
I've been losing weight and you know, my A and
C has been going down and whatever, so they're like
happy with all that stuff. They're just like my triglycerides,
which they're like because like my my good cholesterol is
like a little too low, and my bad cholesterol is

(04:43):
also low. But they're like, your triglycerides are a little high.
So here's some your cholesterol medicine.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
You're bad cholesterol is low.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, like my bad cholesterol is in a good like
in a good range, like low is in. Oh that's
that's good. We have no problem.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
I thought I thought you meant is in. Uh isn't
under normal? I was getting fro. That's very strange.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
No, no, no, they're like overall, your cholesterol is good,
Like the number next to the cholesterol is good. Your
bad cholesterol is low, your good cholesterol could be a
little higher, which would be good. But the only concerning
thing is your triglycerides, and here's some medicine to try
to fix that. It's like all right, Like, also, please

(05:30):
stop eating anything fright And I was like, I make
no promises, but I will try so getting getting sliding
into fifties. Just it's it's wonderful, it's great, absolutely love it.
Life is not has definitely turned out the way I
thought my life would turn out when I was younger.

(05:54):
That's my uh my depressing, uh week. How's everybody else's week?

Speaker 5 (05:59):
But just working too much.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
I accidentally made an ed Geen joke in front of
my kid, and then to figure out how to tell
the ed Geen story in a child friendly way while
we were casually walking around the neighborhood looking at Halloween decorations.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Did it start with you don't tell anybody else school
about this?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Nah, that's half the fun. As he goes and tells
the kids at school.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
About it, Well, the other kids is fine. I'm I'm
more worried about like, ah shit, he's going to make
some cross dressing joke to his teacher and then no,
I well, ed Gean was fine with it, and his
teachers can be like, oh what.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
That's why I didn't tell him about the cross dressing part.
I kept it to the I didn't mention that the
human skin clothing he made was designed to be.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
I was going to raay, did you include making furniture
out of corpses?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I of course did, Okay, And then he asked so
many follow up questions that I couldn't do it. I'm like,
I don't know. I literally got to the point of
him like, I don't know if he was building furniture
from scratcher to human parts or if he was just
refinishing old furniture. I'm like, some of it certainly looks
very professional, so I think it's just refinished.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Did you expand your discussion to be like, well, honestly, Lando,
this is not the first time in modern human history
we've discovered furniture made out of flesh and then gone
into the description of the Holocaust. No, No, I didn't
want to go that far.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
That seems less fun.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Gotcha, too real? Too real for the moment.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, you can learn about the next Holocaust in real time.
It's already started. Kind of true.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Good times. I don't know. I was a segue out
of the Holocaust and what the movies we're watching. But
if we were back to eel some movies, it would
be so much easier.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
But it's unfortunate.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
We're on our third week of Ginger Snaps Versus Dracula. Doug,
do you want to you want to break down? Ginger
Snaps back?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Ginger Snaps Back. So it's eighteen fifteen. There are two
sisters lost in the woods. They stumble across a trading post,
come to find out that the trading people in the
trading post are trapped there because they are surrounded by werewolves.
And eventually we learned that those werewolves were actually the

(08:38):
people who were sent out to go get supplies, but
they were sort of trapped and killed by werewolves and
became werewolves. So they're like, uh, this sucks. I guess
we're stuck here for a while. Then it turns out
that the son of the head of the fort whatever
you call it, it was bitten and supposedly killed, but

(09:02):
he's actually keeping him alive in the basement of the house.
When one of the girls accidentally releases him, he bites her.
Now she's turning into a were wolf, and chaos ensus
from there is good enough, so she's she is. She
heard a tale that if she is the one that
physically kills him, that he could she could it would

(09:25):
prevent her from turning, So she's trying to hunt down
the semi turned werewolf child that's running around this fort. Meanwhile,
the other people are starting to figure out that maybe
she's a were wolf, so they're going to kill her. Eventually,
they kill the little boy, which means that now she
cannot save herself, so she is exiled, and she takes

(09:45):
her revenge for being exiled by basically letting all the
wolves into the fort to slaughter everyone. And supposedly this
ties back into the other Ginger Snaps movies. I don't
really buy it.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
I was gonna ask, well, I mean, they do weirdly
play the same people just in the past, which is.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Okay, so conceptually, there is some dialogue that says, I
think these girls are the ancestors of the sisters from
the first movie. Why they have the same names is unclear,
and the idea is that this was like a turning
point where had the sisters made different choices, they could

(10:28):
have put a stopped the werewolf curse, but they were
sort of always destined for Ginger to become a werewolf
because of the decisions made by these these relatives. But
I don't buy any of that, and I don't like it,
and I think the movie works much better if you
just ignore the parts where they try to connect it
back to Ginger Snaps. I think what I was just

(10:54):
good for me. I think it's a good movie. I
like it. It's not a good Ginger Snaps movie.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
That's about where I was what I was going to say. Overall,
it's not like a terrible werewolf movie. I feel. I
feel like it's a little slow towards the beginning, but
I feel like it's supposed to be, which is fine,
But when the werewolf action starts ramping up towards the end,
like I loved it, I do feel like this is
actually part four and we missed part three where Doc

(11:23):
Brown shows up in the first movie and it's like
something's got to be done about these traders and then
they go back in time and then somehow causing a
werewolf masker.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, I would. I would suggest to anyone who's watching it.
Usually what I suggest to people is, if you're a
fan of the Ginger snaps Like I always recommend watch
one and two together, pick a couple of weeks off,
and then just watch three as a separate standalone movie
because it works. I think it, like, I love the
idea of work. It's the old Like, first of all,
just take werewolves, but we're gonna put it in the

(11:55):
olden times. Okay, sure, that's fun. Right, And then okay,
it's not one were wolf, it's a bunch of them
and they're surrounding this fort and you're all stuck inside.
That's cool. And then there's like the Native American or
Native Canadian hunter guy who can just take out were
wolves pretty much at will until until he has to
face a bunch at once. But he's like he's throwing

(12:17):
axes at werewolf heads and taking them out with arrows
and stuff, and it's like that's really cool.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
The lines of dialogue about how the white man basically
brought the werewolves there and the natives are like fucking christ.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
I did feel like, oh, this is they're trying to
make this like a metaphor for you know, them bringing
disease and stuff, and I'm just thinking, all.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Right, yeah a little bit, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Yeah, he's no damn colonial werewolves.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
It is like it is that, but it's not heavy handed,
Like it's not as heavy handed as the metaphors were
in the first movie, for example, So it's not it
doesn't bother me.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
I guess they do invoke the wind to go uh Folkdale,
which is yeah, kind of fun tying that into like
the werewolf epidemic, which is a great sentence to say
werewolf epidemic.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, but it is during covid If.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
We had a werewolf epidemic instead of covid epidemic, so
much more.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Fun, right, But yeah, no, but I think too with
the werewolves in this series of films are when to
go like in certain ways the idea of them gradually
changing and then but then its permanent change and not
going back and forth, and yeah, like like that is
you know, all these mythologies get mixed together over the years.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
So, uh, this was the first time watching for me?
Is this the first time watched for you know?

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Or have you've seen it before? Yeah, this is the
first time. I kind of skipped it whenever I found
out it was a weird set in the past. Ginger
snaps the movie.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
What did you think of it?

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Uh? It was fine. I mean my personal opinion is
they kind of just made Ginger steps and just change
the time period.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah to some extent, Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously were wolves,
and but I really like the stuff with the kid
running around. I like when Ginger has to like try
to kill him and she can't because he's got the
sad little werewolf face. Going. A lot of elements, I
think we're to some of the background stuff, like the

(14:25):
Brendan Fletcher character when he gets bit and they have
this test they do on the where to see if
somebody is infected with the werewolf They they put leeches
on you, and the leeches basically the leeches go werewolf like.
They grow really quickly and freak out, and so they
so you see him like after he does he's bit,
he runs in and he's trying to kill all the

(14:46):
leeches before they can test him, and that that whole
moment of like a standoff where it like the doctor
ends up shooting him after they after he tests positive
for werewolf ism, and meanwhile Ginger knows she's been a
bit and then he just that line of dialogue when
the doctor turns to her and goes and what can
I do for you ladies, like freaking Fletcher's body is

(15:06):
laying there and they're like, ah, nothing, we were just
here with him. We'll go now.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
I did like that we got a lot more were wolves.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, it look really cool too, and this is probably
the best the were wolves have looked in this series.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Agreed, The were wolves look really good. And I don't
like that it was so casual that it's just like,
oh yeah, there's a bunch of dead were wolves laying
around after a battle and stuff. It's just like, oh shit,
even trying to do like, well, if we subtly hide
it and light it in a certain way, it's like, no,
there's just multiple werewolves just laying on the grid and

(15:47):
they all actually.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Look There's even the scene I think it looks great
when she basically lets the werewolves into the fort and
she opens the door and she walks through and they're
all coming in. It's like, I think it's stopped motion
they used and she they're kind of walking by her
and she's petting them as they walk in. I think
it looks fantastic. There's a number of like great visuals

(16:08):
like that and throw at the movie that, Like, I
do think it looks really pretty. I think the setting
really works, like the you know, Canadian wilderness in the
winter looks cool for a horror movie.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah, some of the earlier scenes where they're riding through
the forest or whatever and it's all foggy, and yeah,
it happened upon that Native American woman that's hanging out
doing Native American woman stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, she's like, it's a little bit weird that she's
like a seer and she can like foretell their future
and stuff. And you're like, but I mean, I think
that's an intentional throwback to the Gypsy and the original Wolfman.
That's how I took it. I don't know if it's
I guess I don't know if it's intentional, but that's
how I took it.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
They were like, we really need an analog for this
harmful racial stereosa. Get me a Native woman in palace.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
That's an appropriate harmful stereotype for the time period. You know.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Ah, I don't know favorite any favorite moments.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
I mean everything involved in The Little the Little Boy Werewolf.
Oh you know what, maybe my favorite movie in the
whole movie, the moment the whole movie is is when
they're looking for the little werewolf boy and they find
him in the graveyard and he's dug up his mother's
hand and he's like cuddling with it. He's just like
on his mom's grave. And that's the moment where then
Ginger is gonna kill him, and she's just giving her

(17:36):
like those puppy dog eyes and pun intended, I guess,
and she can't do it. But that shot of like
the graveyard and that little boy has like dug up
and he's like holding his mom's hand from under the ground.
I really enjoy that. I'm not sure if that says
anything good about me as an individual. I think that

(17:57):
means I'm kind of gross and sick, but like a
half turn to wear a wolf boy digging up his
own mother because he's confused about the concept of death,
that's neat.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Do you have any favorite moments now?

Speaker 5 (18:19):
I don't know. I think the one thing I didn't
like about it is the excessive weird dream flash things
that keep happening over and over and over throughout the movie.
I was like, Okay, I get it. We don't need
to do it every three fucking seconds. It's okay.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
The movie was made in two thousand and four. I
forgot to mention that in my flat description. Yeah, it
is a bit exciting. I think they look really cool,
Like the visuals of like like Bridget's face with blood
on it and stuff look neat. But I do think
they're excessive.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah, this was the year after Freddy versus Jason. Yeah,
they feel like they just said they're just like Catherine
Isabelle was in that we should have more dreams.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
They're like, should we have one with a bunch of
underage girls masturbating? And they're like, nope, nope, learned lesson,
No did that last time?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
It's not a lot harder to work it into the
plot of this one, that's all. No one wants to
watch all those like dirty old men master that gross
priest guy that's like fucking just constantly yelling at them
and calling them horrors for no.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Reason because he's a priest. So priest do that?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Do you guys know who that is? By the way, Like,
does that he's it's Hugh Dillon plays that role. Does
that mean anything to Americans? Or is that only do
I only know who he is because I'm Canadian?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
I don't know who that is?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
He was like Yeah, he was like a rock star
when I was in high school and he wanted to
become an actor and he's there's a he's in a
show now that I don't watch, the Mayor of Kingstown
or something like that, which is apparently like quite well
known and quite popular, but I've never seen it.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
But yeah, did you live by Kingstown?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, so he's from here and his show was called
Mayor of Kingstown and my former podcast host was Kingstown Ted.
That's not that's not coincidences. That's yeah, right, but but yeah,
like so that it's kind of neat there to see
him in the role for But I guess that doesn't
matter if you're not. Like, the movie is very very
Canadian like that. I mean it's a bunch of like

(20:24):
British and French guys working together. Clearly, it's like they're
referencing the Hudson Bay Company that's the trading post. Like again,
that probably doesn't mean anything to you guys, but they can't.
You know, they didn't have the rights because that company
was still in existence when this movie was made. But
it's a it's an obvious reference that we would all get.

(20:46):
So yeah, what about oh what about the part when
the guy they killed the one were wolf and they're like, fuck,
is that is that your brother's tattoo on? That wear wolf?
And he's like, oh, my brother had a glass eye.
Let's carve the eyeball out of the were wolf and
see if it's glass or not. Oh that's fucking that

(21:07):
was a great looking moment when they're like he's got
the knife and he's like carving the eye out and
then he holds it up and like taps it with
the knife to show that it's fake. I don't know
if that's historically accurate with somebody, a normal, average person
in eighteen fifteen have a glass eye orould they just
have an eyepatch on. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
It depends on how rich they are. I guess.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah. He was the captain of the crew that was
sent out for supplies, so.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I have
a whole lot to say about the movie. Like the
movie is fine, just a lot of it's just set
in this fort, and a lot of it is we
don't trust you women and women being like, well, we
kind of don't trust you and wear wolves and that's yeah,
kind of the extent.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Hey, so we're The plot of the movie is that
the leader of the place is more concerned about his
own family than everyone else's safety and well being, and
the preacher is blinded by his religion and just fucking
hates everybody. So there's no analogus to real life.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
But that's not relevant now. This was me in two
thousand and four. None of these themes would make any
sense nowadays.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
But about the part where the werewolf makes it in
through the door or through the wall and there cuts
a hole in the wall, and then the priest locks
the girls in the room with the werewolf until the
hunter has to saved them.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
The priest is a dick.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, like no, no, come over here, come over here,
and then locks. The minute's like burning out. It's like
what a dick I did.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Like I did think a lot of that stuff. Like
I know, you guys are saying it's a little overbearing
or whatever, but like I thought the performance was good
and the speeches he was giving was good. I like
that when the first night the girls show up up
and they're like, okay, well you can go in this
room and you can you can get cleaned up and
stuff and come down and we'll have dinner in the

(23:06):
fancy hall with everybody, since we since we have guests
for the first time in a while. And as soon
as the girls walk into their nice dresses, he's like,
let's say a prayer before we eat, and in the
middle of his prayer, he starts going off on like
and let us not give in to the temptations of
the flesh.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
How dare you be attractive? You know?

Speaker 3 (23:26):
And that's basically his problem. He's like, you are reasonably
good looking women, and we're a bunch of men that
have been trapped here for a long time. And that's like,
it's almost it is the typical like, you know, you're
going to distract the men and corrupt them just by
you know, your existence, not like you don't have to
do anything wrong, you know, which again is kind of

(23:49):
what most religions are, So it's not inaccurate or anything.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
I like the Semen and Wiles because even like the
even the other conflict that exists within the characters, Like
I liked that the one native guy didn't really get
along with everybody else, and there's like a couple of
guys are just like whatever.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
He seems to be good at killing werewolves, so we
should probably keep him around. And some of the guys
were so blinded by their racism that they didn't want
him around. Because that's because the there's even implication that
the captain of the whatever they called him, the guy
that ran the fort, he was like his wife was native,
and the priest kind of blames him, like, that's why

(24:32):
we're being attacked by werewolves is because you slept with
a native woman. And it's like, Jesus Christ, get your
racism any head. The thing he did wrong was protect
his werewolf's son from being killed. It's not because he
slept with a woman who was a different skin tone.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, people were dumb.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah, but I mean all that's like my point is
all that conflict feels real. It works in the in
the context of the film, and it sets you up
with certain like heroes and villains. Were naturally sympathetic to
the hunter because he's being you know, he's being harassed
by these people for having done nothing wrong. We're naturally
sympathetic to the women because they're getting blamed for things

(25:15):
that they have nothing to do with, you know, and
then to see them. It also has that sort of
slasher movie element.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Of it when like well, being lured in by their
devil woman sex magic.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
They do both look pretty good when they get cleaned up,
I'll tell you that. But that's not the point. They
corrupted me too, No, But like I think it adds
a slasher movie element of when the wolves come in
and are munching on these guys, we can be on
the were wolf's side, right because they were dicks the
whole movie. It's kind of like being an annoying teenager

(25:51):
who focks in the woods. Now we're allowed to cheer
when you had stabbed, right, same idea. So like at
the end of that movie, like when the water happens, like,
did anybody feel bad for those characters or we all like, yeah,
if we can get the wolves did not feel so
it's perfect, right, It's kind of a fun I also

(26:15):
liked the fact that in the movie, like because it
is the third one in the series, and because at
this point we were supposed to know the rules of
being a werewolf, that they don't spend a lot of
time on it, and they don't have like there's not
even really any there's no debate about what's going on
that makes sense, Like as soon.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
As I do like the fact that they get to
the place and you know, obviously the problem is they're
under werewolf siege, and none of the men there were
wanting to say it. They're like, it's dangerous around here,
you go.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
It's yeah, It's just it's a really kind of awkward,
like there is anyone going to say we're wolf like,
but I don't know. I like the fact that they didn't.
There wasn't like a whole discovery of how does this work?
We're supposed to know. All the characters in the movie know,
you know. The only debate comes when it's when it

(27:10):
is that time to kill someone because they've been bit
Are you willing to do it or not? I guess
I would have a question for you guys when the
whole thing with if she kills the boy, then she
won't turn Do we think if she killed that boy
that she wouldn't have turned? No, Because see I think folk, Yeah,

(27:31):
that's what I think too. So I'd like I think
that whole plot thread is kind of like I like.
I like the way it played out in the movie.
I really like watching her want to kill a little
child and then not be able to do it, Like
that's that's fun to me. But I think if she
killed that child, she would have turned anyway and it
would been like, God, damn it, I murdered a child
for nothing.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
There's never there's never a bad reason to kill a child.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Generally speaking, we can all agree to that. But you
know this was this was a half were wolf child,
so you know you have a little more sympathy for it.
What about the what about when they're in the kids room,
like in the in the house and they find his toys,
and his toys are like it's a fort and he's
set up like men outside being eaten by toy wolves.

(28:22):
He's got like the equivalent to like little army men
from eighteen fifteen, and he's got little toy wolves eating
them outside his fort. And they're like, oh, this is
kind of what's going on. This is how the girls
learn what's happening. That was fun. I like a lot
of this movie. In case you can't tell, I'm I'm
I'm I'm a big fan. I'm sucker for were wolves.

(28:44):
I'm sucker for Catherine Isabelle. There's a lot of Canadian
and this, which makes it appeel to me. Maybe in
a way it doesn't to you guys, but it's a
and then yeah, like it's just when the blood starts flowing,
it really starts flowing. And I appreciate that, you know how.
I like my Gore.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
I do like all the wearhold stuff at the end.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
So I will say that, over the course, the Bridget
character gets less and less sympathetic. I don't know if
you've noticed that.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
What do you mean the one?

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, over the over the course of the series, because
like in the first movie, you're very much on her side, like,
you know, she just cares about her sister and all
this kind of stuff, and the second movie you're kind
of like, well, you you know, shit's about to go wrong.
Maybe you should fucking worry about that a little bit.
She's like, no, I got this ship, and you're like okay.

(29:41):
And then this movie they're like, yeah, you need to
kill your fucking sister or we're all fucked, and she's like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
I mean, yeah, I guess you're not wrong in the
sense that she is. Throughout the series, she goes from
being like I don't even know what a werewolf is
to my sister's gonna turn into one. But she's still
my sister, so what you can do, and it's it
is interesting because in the movie, this third movie, there's

(30:13):
there's no character that has to that actually goes and
does the air quotes the right thing. So you've got
the guy whose kid was bit and he protects his kid.
You got bridge At protecting her sister. The only one
that actually does something is the doctor when he shoots
the Brendan Fletcher character. But it's not like it's it's

(30:34):
not as if there was a close connection between those two.
So it's a lot easier to make that decision to
just murder, you know, like who doesn't want to murder
their coworker kind of thing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
So it's like it's likes the hum at work.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
That's worse than being a werewolf by far.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
If you tried a silver bullet, let's try a non
silver bullet's see if that.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Will work too either way. Yeah, I wonder if that
would have been something they could have done in the film,
where it's like somebody has to actually do the right thing.
But I guess the idea that the familiar familial bond
prevents you from making the rational decision is kind of
part of the theme of the film.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
I guess, all right, now, do you want to tell
us about Dracula three, because my breakdown would be for
a movie called Dracula three, very little Dracula in it.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Last half hours Dracula.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yeah, so we've got our priest guy from the last movie,
along with the kind of annoying douchey dude from the
last movie correct doing their cross country buddy cop thing

(32:01):
in order to go hunt down Dracula. In Romania, there's
currently a silvil war going on there, which turns out
is like a vampire civil war, and kind of it's
pseudo open and everyone kind of knows about the vampire sturge.

(32:22):
It's a little weird.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I like the implication that like NATO has come in
to like kind of take control and occupy the areas
so that they can, you know, kind of be peacekeepers.
But no one told NATO about the vampires. Yeah, so
those soldiers don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
So it turns out are the scene we saw in
the last movie of a priest guy burning the vampire
juice out of himself, that he's actually doing that every day. Yeah,
because it doesn't actually burn the vampire out of you,
It just burns the little bit of vampire you got
in you at the moment out and you're still going

(32:59):
to keep turning into a vampire.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
It's actually the same plot twist from Ginger Snups to
Ginger Snups too, where it's like, oh, the cure is
actually just postponing the transformation.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Oh yeah. So they go. So they're in Romania, they
find some rebels, they hook up with a news reporter
chick who's got a lady boner for a priest guy.
He's kind of a dick because he keeps insisting that
the other guy, you know, is too much of a

(33:33):
of a puss, basically because he keeps being like, we're
not just gonna let these people die, right, Like what
are you doing? We can't just like leave these people
to die. And he's like, no, we have important vampire
shit to do. And he's like yeah, and they're gonna
get killed by vampires, so maybe we should stop the
vampires from killing these people. And that's the majority of

(33:53):
the movie is pretty much that playing over and over
and over again until they get to Durracula's I don't
I don't know. Late for the fact that it's in
the two thousands, it's actually feels like like late nineties
cyberpunk Dracula in his Dracula Castle with his giant IV

(34:16):
tintrils hooked up to him while he watches TV through
strange and then his weird Dracula's Dracula bride fuck orgy
going on in the basement. I'm just naked ladies drinking
blood all day.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Don't that's not cool?

Speaker 5 (34:34):
It's great. Now, Listen, here's the thing. The acting in
this movie is very bad. It's like, it's just not good.
It is very bad. And then Rugger Howard shows up
and starts acting because he's fucking Rugger hour, and it's
such a shift of Like Jesus, he is in an

(34:54):
entirely different movie from the rest of these people.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Like I I feel that Jason Scott Lee and Jason
London are not the buddy cop duo that they wanted.
It's the buddy cop duo they could get for this movie,
you know what I mean. Yeah, it's it's an issue
when they're like they're trying to be funny together and

(35:19):
it's not really working well and he's.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Trying to throw So don't get me wrong, my most
Serenity forgot his name again a guy who plays the priest,
Jason Scott Lee. Yeah, Jason Scott Lee looks the part, right,
He's he's very ripped and very good looking guy and
all that kind of stuff. But god damn it, they
have him trying to throw out fucking one liners like

(35:45):
he's got the charisma of you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger or something,
and it does not fucking work.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah. I think he handles the action stuff well, but
the comedy elements do not work from him him. I
got like, I think when he's killing a vampire, every
time you're like, that looks pretty cool. I just yeah,
he talks, and yeah, it's it's every time he talks
you're like, oh, she didn't have done that, So that

(36:16):
is that an impolite thing to say about him?

Speaker 4 (36:19):
And then I feel like they were trying to give
him blade a blade or just was not working.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
I mean, yeah, kind of, I was gonna see they
also there.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
So there's this other problem of so we get to
the final confrontation with Dracula. We've established in the first
two movies of the series that the whole way to
get rid of Jacula is that he has to like
ask for forgiveness and go to Jesus basically like that's

(36:51):
it's pretty much firmly the thing that has been said
will kill him, and instead he just gets his head
cut off. And in this movie ends with him kind
of going away and Jason Scottie being like, I'm the
Dracula now.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
So I have a quoe. I wanted to discuss the
ending with you guys. So the movie literally, so Jason
scott Lee throw his character throat the last movie, and
this movie is fighting off his vampirism, right, using the
sunlight to that cleansing and all that. And in this movie,
as it comes to an end, he wants he's fallen

(37:32):
for the girl. He wants to save her, and he
wants to kill Dracula. So he literally sucks Dracula's blood,
like bites his neck like a vampire wood, sucks his
blood out, then beheads him, turns the girl, and it
ends with him taking the throne. Right, So is he
are they saying because he killed the old vampire king,
he's the new vampire king or are they implying that

(37:55):
by sucking Dracula's blood he literally absorbed the power that
Dracula had. And so this is like another reincarnation of Dracula.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
I think the implication is kind of supposed to be
that he's just another Dracula because it's also following the
so not obviously in the series Dracula becomes Dracula because
he was Judas or whatever. But you know, in the
traditional story, it's got to do with the losing the

(38:27):
woman he loves and all that kind of stuff, and
so this kind of ends with him doing the entire
Dracula arc. Does that make sense because it's the him
losing her and selling his soul to get the woman back.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Like he's he's taken it. It's his
fall from grace. He starts out as a hero fighting
for good, he loses kind of everything he has and
ends up becoming the evil that he once fought. That
whole storyline is clear. I'm just not sure if the
reason he was able to kill Dracula is because he

(39:05):
absorbed the power from Dracula, so that like when he
killed rud Grower or Grower was no longer Dracula. It's
kind of like when they burned the body and he
came back looking different, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Kinda yeah, I think it's I think it's very much
just he. It's not like he is literally Dracula, if
that kind of makes sense, right, yea, that he drank
the blood and now he just is the Dracula.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
While we're talking about this whole situation on what Okay,
is he vampire king? Now is he whatever? I feel
like this whole situation is completely undercut by the fact
that Jason London and I didn't watch part two, as
we mentioned last week, so I just jumped into part

(39:51):
three blind see on the search for his girlfriend like
throughout that whole movie as well.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
No, so in part two, he and the girl are
the ones that find the burned up body realize it's
a vampire. She gets a small cut on her hand
from like the not yet reincarnated vampire body. So she's
gradually turning, and at the very end of that movie,
she's sort of like they're doing the thing where they're

(40:17):
going to take her into the sun to try to
prevent her from turning, and she sort of makes the
decision to go with Dracula instead of stay with him. Okay,
so she's now he's trying to get her back. Yeah,
so she either she turns to Dracula and says, let's
run off for part three, and that's why he chases
her into this sequel.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
So he spends the entire movie looking for his girlfriend,
like maybe we could save her, maybe it'll be all right,
we don't know. And then at the end she's like, well,
you will be saving me if you kill me. He
has to make the tearful, heartfelt decision to murder his
vampire girlfriend set her free from what she's been into.

(40:55):
So that's pretty much been his goal this entire movie.
This whole arc has been I need to find my
vampire girlfriend. Hopefully she's not a vampire, but if she is,
I need she's to kill her.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
The whole thing is that she's basically turned at the
end of the last movie, like there's no hope that
she's not turned. I don't understand why they try to
sell that.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
So that's his whole arc. And then he kills her. Oh,
it's very emotional, like I can't believe he came all
this way, and this is how it turns out. The
literal second later, it cuts to you Jason Scott Lee's character,
who is Oh, no, this girl who is my love
interest is dying. I know, I'll turn her into a

(41:40):
vampire so we can be together forever. Like, aren't those
two plot points at odds?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
No, Because Jason Scott Lee's character has fallen kind of
to the dark side, right, So he's turning her because
he's doing the evil thing, and the Jason London character
is doing the right thing by putting her down, So
they're like they're doing the exact opposite thing. That's the
idea is that these two came in together as a team.
One of them has fallen and one of them is.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
You do feel Jason Scott Lee as evil by the
time the.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Movie is over, Yeah, but when he sits in that
throne at the end, it's amazing visual shot by the
way of him sitting in that throne holding her. But
then he at that point he's evil. And that's the idea,
is that he he lost his soul in his battle
to destroy Dracula. And if you go back, so.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Because I just maybe took it as well. Now I'm
the vampire king, but I will I will be a
better vampire king than Dracula because I'm not as.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
No, I think he's he's full evil at that point.
And if you go back to the scenes where he's
meeting with the Roy Scheider character, Like there's flashbacks to
him and he like, they're saying, like, you're becoming corrupted
by this battle, is like corrupting your soul. We want
to take you out of the fight. We'll let you
go back to being a normal priest. You can have

(43:06):
whatever parish you want anywhere in the world, but you
shouldn't be doing this anymore. And he is so obsessed
with this idea of destroying Dracula that he actually walks
away from the priesthood. So that's kind of the first
step in his trip towards this final ending, which is
him becoming the evil that he always hated. So it's
a real dark ending for his character. That's why he's

(43:31):
wearing a gray trench coat the whole movie instead of
a black trench coat, because it's showing that he's on
his way to becoming corrupted.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
I guess maybe since I missed out on part two,
I'm missing some of that.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah, And some of that is because we did see,
like in part two, we did see that there were
he was like when he goes to a church to
meet with them or whatever, there are other priests there
going like we've heard you've done like some pretty terrible shit,
like are you sure you're a good guy kind of think,
and he's like, fuck you. God will judge me, not you, right,

(44:07):
And so then that continues on with the Roy Scheider
character saying, look, the church officially is saying you've got
to stop because you're going over the edge, and him
saying no, I will not stop. That obsession is what
leads to his downfall. So I think, and I think
it works pretty well as an arc over the two movies.
So maybe you are just missing out on it because
of that.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
But yeah, maybe because I didn't mind some of this stuff.
I think some of the fighting vampire stuff was pretty good,
the sort of story arc.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
I was like, yeah, I think that, And that might
just have to do with the fact that you're coming
in blind yep. Probably because like we haven't mentioned like
there are like clown vampires and shit in this movie.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
It's so weird.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
As they're making their way across Romania, they're just like
they're like the last movie, one vampire. This movie all
the fucking.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Vampires empires, but it's a vampire circus. They have to
fight the guy on stilts, they have to fight the clown.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
The fuck the vampire on stilts looks so fucking cool,
and then he gets like just a really funny death,
but it's like the actual one he's walked around out there.
I think he looks fantastic, A cool thing to put
in a movie.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Vampire circus. No fan, not fan.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
I'll never say no to a vampire circus.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
That was a very honest response. I think the whole
whole thing for me, the whole They like the road
trip element of traveling across this like war torn country.
I think a lot of that works. Like I think
a lot of the you know, being trapped in this
place where it's like there's rubble all around and there's
just like there's like refugees going by them, and human
traffickers are like picking people up and taking them to

(45:53):
the vampires. Like all that stuff for me works as
just a background setting for this adventure.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
The rebels keep demanding that anyone who is taking one
of these offices must make a public appearance in the daylight.
We are unsure why they won't tell.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Us that's a funny thing I do. I really like
the scene too, when they get to the NATO checkpoint,
and there's just like the NATO soldiers have just been
attacked by vampires and they are freaking the fuck out.
None of them understand what's happening, and you have Jason
Scott Lee's character just being like very casual, like walking
up checking the bodies to see how they were killed.

(46:31):
And you know that one guy ends up just shooting
himself in the head because he's just freaking out, and
because he's the French guy, so naturally it's his version
of surrendering, is committing suicide instead of fighting at vampires.
Any other favorite moments guy shooting himself in the head,
the other guy gets corrupted and turns evil. Those are

(46:53):
all good moments Vampire's circus obviously.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Rugger Hower with his giant nineties blood iyepy thing as
u Yeah, pretty dope.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I will say I'll go full Noah on this. Like
every moment rugger Hower is Unseene is like as soon
as you see him, until he dies, you're just like, yeah,
I'm on board for this. Why isn't he Gracula all
the time?

Speaker 5 (47:22):
The part?

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Technically, this is almost the third time he's been.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
Directing the part where he is attempting to corrupt the woman,
and he's like making that like dark speech where he's like,
you know, you know and this and this and this
and you know, this is the world you live in
and you can see it, and then he goes something
like that.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Yeah, Rucker Hower played the lead vampire and the vampire slayer.
Of course, he was also the head vampire in the
T N T. Salem's Lot remake, which was not good. Okay,
rob Lo, So he's always like head vampire.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Well, he's not going to play like an amnion vampire.
Like would rud Gar Hower look up to Claus Klinsky.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Maybe maybe the only one Jesus Christ klaus Kinski and
fucking Rugger Hower as vampires in the same movie.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
We did a minute to recover from that idea. No,
that's fine.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Well, I'm just saying, if you're going for like creepo, freaky,
dangerous vampires, yeah, I could see it.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Oh, it's almost like Klinsky would be like the the
sith Lord, and fred Gar howerd would be the apprentice
that eventually kills him and takes over. The Only problem
is you'd have to try to find a way to
make us root against those guys. Those vampires and I
don't know if we could, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
You just do one of those movies where the vampires
or the main people.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Yeah, but yeah, I love all the visuals and when
rud Geruer's on screen too, like him having the blood ivs.
But the fucking orgy that's going on, like when we
should probably talk about the orgy, it's pretty cool. Like
it's like, visually speaking, it's like that kind of there.
It's all lit in like that red and there's blood everywhere.

(49:33):
It looks really cool. I think. I think all that
stuff when they get to that castle looks neat, and
they obviously blew a lot of their budget on that
and the rest of it. They're just like, what parts
of Romania are falling down? Let's film there.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Accurate.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Yeah, as the orgy was going on, I was like, well,
I'm really glad I decided not to watch this when
it worked today. Yeah, because I did watch Ginger Snaps
three for sure.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, this is the it's it's not safe for work
orgy if that's yea as opposed to you know, your
traditional orgies that are kind of fine in a more
relaxed office environment.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
It is very funny how I mean, other than violence,
it's a fairly PG ish movie through almost the whole thing,
and then you get to Dracla's castle and then they're
like titties, Teddy's everywhere, titties and blood.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Yeah, it's almost like the level of orgy is approaching this,
like a shunting level of orgies. It's that, but.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
They don't go full Caligula.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
But no, no, they're shooting for that. That's sweet. We're
still allowed on Blockbuster shelves rating. We need our DVD
to be sold in Walmart stores. Make sure we get
an R. But it's it's I guess it's more the
way everything is shot that I think looks cool, because

(51:04):
I mean, yes, it's an orgy, but it's a it's
an impressively well made one.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
It's a good.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Doug the Midnight Drive in. It's an impressively well made orgy.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Put that on the poster for the re release. Yeah,
it's like, but I think it's interesting the way it's
shot too, because the movie is very drab, very kind
of gray throughout because they're traveling through this war torn country.
You know, a lot of it obviously takes place at
night and stuff and it's lit by like fires and things.
And then you get to this castle and it is

(51:44):
all these weird color schemes and red everywhere. And the
idea that almost life inside Dracula's castle is more vibrant
than it is outside m hm, because you can see it,
Like you can see people being corrupt by that, right,
Like there's like, so wait a second, Like I'm out

(52:04):
here where it's like best case scenario. I used to
get to go to a circus and now they're all vampires.
But in there there's orgies and stuff, like you can
understand how the people would be corrupted by that and
strive to be part of that. Does that make sense?

Speaker 5 (52:18):
How do I get in on this vampire orgy?

Speaker 3 (52:23):
One guy he's like, I'll do it. I'll just be
the guy that brings you the bodies and then you know,
at least to get to see an orgy. I don't
get to participate in it.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
I like the Jason London. It's like running around grabbing
different women like Julia.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Which one of these orgy participants is my girlfriend, not
even it's not even his girlfriend by the way, like
we learned in part two, Like it's an unrequited love
kind of thing. So, oh, yeah, she was dating the
villain from part two who was just using her to
find a vampire.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
It turns out, and in real life he should have
been like, what she's gonna leave with Dracula? Man, fuck
that bitch, and then he just stays home.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Yeah, that would be a significantly less interesting movie. And
then who would make all the witty, sarcastic comments that
he makes through of the film.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Good Lord?

Speaker 3 (53:17):
He drops a Buffy reference at one point, what was it?

Speaker 4 (53:22):
I missed it?

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Because he calls like everybody calls Jason Scott Lee's character
calls him d damaged Goods and he's like, he's like,
why would you call me that? And he goes that
was that? Or Buffy because he's a vampire slayer. So
and it's two thousand and what does five when this
came out?

Speaker 4 (53:40):
So it's like same yere Buffy ended?

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah, people were still mad about Buffy going off the
air when they saw.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
This or that in two thousand and two. I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
I can't remember, all right, So.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
Are we positive on this or we? Uh?

Speaker 3 (54:00):
I Again, it's it's not perfect. Some of the dialogue
is weak, some of the performances aren't great, but it
looks cool and there's lots of cool vampire blood and
guts and there's a vampire on stilts. Like, yeah, I'm
positive on this overall, Like you can again, you're grading
on a bit of a scale when you talk about

(54:21):
these direct to DVDs sequels, but it's like the idea
that you could do this, and for both Ginger Snap
sequels and both Dracula sequels that we've talked about this month,
we have these unique, weird ideas and because it's the
DVD era, we can actually go out and make them
like they don't you know what I mean, They don't
have to appeal to a mainstream audience. There's enough of

(54:43):
us renting these and buying these, you know, to bother financing.
You know, two vampire hunters are going to go across
Romania to try to get to Dracula's castle and break
up an orgy. You know, yes, I'm I'm gonna want
to watch that every time. So and like they didn't
do anything. Nothing that we're complaining about is bad enough

(55:06):
to take away the fun of watching the violence and
the gore and you know, just the overall aesthetic of
this film.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
No, I'm positive.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Uh for the most part. I listen, it takes way
too long to get to rugger Hower, but once you
get there, it's pretty awesome, So I think it works out.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
So no one wants to edit out the Vampires Circus
to get more ruggier Hower.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Listen, that is a trade I would be willing to make.
I'm sorry. Yes, now, once again, I'm pro vampire Circus
all day. I'm just saying rugger Hower better.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
In a vampire Circus movie.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
There was a movie called Vampire Circus I've never seen.
I think it's a Hammer film.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Oh yeah, in nineteen seventy two. Yeah. Interesting. Uh yeah,
I thought it was all right. Like I said, the
vampire stuff was fun to watch. The story didn't really
uh enticed me. But I chalked that up to missing
part two. So missing part of the setup.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
So yeah, yeah, well part of it is the execution
as well. It's not all on you for missing part two.

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Speaker 4 (56:49):
Thanks, we'll be done to you. Thanks for calling. But
before we get into what we watched, I just saw
on the Facebook that apparently Drew Streuson has passed away. Yeah,
which is a bummer.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Yeah, it's one of those things where it's like, if
you said that name to me a couple of days ago,
I wouldn't have known who it was. But really, somebody's
holding up pictures of his artwork today. I'm like, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Oh, I've known who he was for quite a while.
Definitely a bummer. All right, what's everybody watched this last episode?

Speaker 5 (57:24):
Uh? Not too much, as the answer, I did have
a little bit of spare time, and with that spare time,
I started rewatching Supernatural. I was like, you know what, I.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Watched Supernatural with a little bit of spare time.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Well, like I said, I've just started, and I was like,
you know what, four hundred episodes. I can do this.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
So now I'm most of the way through season one.
For I'm missing some sleep over a three day weekend.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
I'm also the way through season two for the first time,
first time launch.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
I've been told by my friend who is a supernatural fanatic,
that the show like takes off after season two ends and.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
You go into season three. Yeah, I've been enjoying it
so far.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
Yeah, that's whenever it goes from being sort of purely
episodic to being a lot more of a through line.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Yeah, I've noticed the shift already starting to happen in
season two.

Speaker 5 (58:28):
And then we get to see how many times Dean
dies throughout the course of the show, because I've been
told it's a lot.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
That's what I've heard too.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
But yeah, but that's pretty much yea. And then after
I finished the movie, Monster Squad started playing on Paramount,
so I said there half of Monster Squad before coming to.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
The show it started. That happened to me too, and
I was like, oh, do I just ignore my phone
and text from you two? Y're like, where the fuck
are you at? And just watch Montrel Squad instead? But
shut it off.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
It is very alluring where you're like, I could just
forget about my life and just watch Monster Squad again.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Yeah, I've been struggling because I really want to watch
Monster Squad lately, but I'm trying to make my kid
watch it, and so we're like, I'm like every day,
I'm like I should just put it on, and I'm like, no,
I have to wait until I can watch it with him.
It's like an real emotional struggle I deal with.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
You can enjoy the conversations where you have to explain
some of the language that they use in this movie.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Yeah, that'll be a preemptive conversation about hey, this was
We occasionally talk about how things have changed from the
old days to today, and that'll be another one of
those conversations I did I today. I just told him
about drinking from the hose for the first time. He's
like what he's like, because we were talking about like

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how we didn't have water bottles at school when we
were kids, and like, guess what we when we were
at home and we were playing and we wanted water.
I'm like, you know, like you come in and there's
like several pre filled water bottles in the fridge and
you just take one, No.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Turn the hose on, you wait thirty seconds for all
the warm water to get out of there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Yeah, I said we would drink from the hose and
then if your sibling walk by, you'd spray them with
it and go back to drinking of it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
What did you watch, Doug.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
I have not watched a single movie since the last time. Wow,
I'm still moving through my Buffy rewatch.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Yeah, how's that going?

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
How far into season six now? So where things are
getting dark? We've just had a one Yeah, so I
think I've watched the first two episodes, so it's like, hey, look,
Buffy's back, and then it's like, oh, she's broken, and
she'll be broken for the next several episodes. It's uh yeah. Unfortunately,

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no movies this week. It's just been weirdly hectic week.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
I only watched two movies, and one of them I
actually watched last for last episode, but I forgot to
log it, so I forgot about it. And one of
the reaction channels I watch, they've been going through the
Bourne movies and I realized, oh shit, I never did
watch The Bourne Legacy, so I wanted to watch it
before they got to it. So I watched it and
that movie is not good. No, it's the Jeremy Renner

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taking over. It's a different assassin in the program. And
him trying to get out of it, and uh, yeah,
it's not super great.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
So how do they so isn't Borne the name of
the guy? Like, isn't that That's the whole thing. It's
the Bourne movies because it's Jason Bourne. So why do
they call this a Bourne movie if it's not about
Jason Bourne?

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
Because it's the Boorn legacy. It's about his legacy that
he left.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
His legacy is another guy approximately the same age.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Technically within the franchise, this movie is happening happening concurrently
with the third movie. Okay, they even include some like
some of the same events seen from a different perspective.
But yeah, I don't know. It doesn't work for me,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
I mean, full disclosure, I've seen none of these, so
I don't know why I'm picking on them. I'm just
sitting there going like, I don't know that's how that worked.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
No, it's fair because the reason I hadn't watched this
movie is because I was like, what, Jason Bourne's not
in it? So I watched it. So I need to
watch the movie. Jason Bourne, which is the fifth movie
in the franchise, shows Matt demon returned apparently that contract
negotiation worked out, and I haven't watched that one yet,

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so it made one sense.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
So yeah, I know, like Matt Damon gave up on
being an avatar in order to make those Born movies,
so he's probably trying to cash in as many times
as possible.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Yeah. I liked all the ones he's in so far.
Like I said, I haven't watched the fifth one yet,
so we'll see see if his return was any good.
And then after that, my girlfriend's daughter like their local
little theater in their little hometown. They just remodeled the

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entire thing really nice inside.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
I just like that that's happening because I'm so worried
that theaters are going to go away.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Yeah, it's the well, it's an opera house, so it
is a movie theater slash music venue, slash you know
whatever they can use it for type of place. And yeah,
they just remodeled it all and it looks super nice
and they're having some fun events and for all of
October they are on Thursdays they are showing Universal horror

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movies for free. So you's got to show up, buy
spopcorn and drink, go in watch some Universal movies. So
my girlfriend and her daughter have been watching Like Frankenstein,
like they did Like Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein one
week and next week was like The Wolf Man and

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The Mummy, I think. And girlfriend's daughter, who is not
a horror fan, has been watching these and kind of
getting into them because they're kind of you know, black
and white and yeah, old and cheesy and whatever, and
so we had told her, oh, you would probably like
and I told you told this to you a couple
of weeks ago, Doug, you would probably like Young Frankenstein, right,

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because she did watch the Star Wars movies and then
watched Spaceballs and enjoyed Spaceballs. So we're sort of like, oh,
it's like the same thing they did with Spaceballs with
Star Wars, but they do that with the Frankenstein movies.
So we turned that on the other day, and then
she spent most of it on her phone, so I
doubt she was really paying attention. And uh, I'm pretty

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sure my girlfriend, my girlfriend and her daughter. My girlfriend
I know fell asleep like ten minutes into it, and
her daughter I think was on her phone, and then
I think all sleep for like the last fifteen probably,
So I watched Young Frankenstein, and yeah, it's great as always.
Geene Wilder is a genius and was a National Treasurer,
and Terry Garr is fantastic in it, and it was

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one of those we were watching the opening credits and
I'm just like, Oh, everybody they've listed so far as
dead and I just felt really sad.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Well, I put watch older movies, I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Because it was like Gene Wilder, Terry gar Chloris Leachman,
Peter Boyle, Marty Feldman, and I'm just like, God, they're
all dead, Madeline Kahn, God, damn it, they're all still dead.
So yeah, it was fun, I mean too, Frankance. Then
it's a great time. Doug someth needs to watch it
at some point.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Yeah, maybe I'll watch it this Halloween season. I gotta
start watching some horror movies for Halloweens. I've been struggling
not to watch him.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
We need, we need to put that one on the list,
because young Frankenstein is a good one for this show.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
I think, I know. And you tried to put it
with Dracula dead and loving it, and Doug was like, fuck, no,
I do believe.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
That was the one you guys suggested and I said, what.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
If we did mel Breff's movies, No or Doug maybe
teamed up with Spaceballs.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
The comedies. It's so hard for us to discuss comedies.
It's never good.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
It's also true. I feel like Young Frankenstein would be
a good discussion of how much it is as a
as its own Frankenstein movie despite it being comedic.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Yes seeh I love Frankenstein movies.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
So yeah, it's Frankensteine.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Uh but yeah, but that's all I watched too sl
week for all of us.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Yeah, well, well we'll find something to watch for next week.
I guess the problem is now we're gonna get into
like our Halloween rewatches, and it's gonna be us talking
about we treat every week, just trick or treat Halloween, Halloween,
Halloween two, Halloween four.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Another reaction pages, these girls were going through all the
Halloween movies because they've never seen them. They're up to
the rob Zombie one and they talked about how much
they liked it, and I was like, I'm gonna have
to stop watching this.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
Yeah, it's it's an it's it's an age thing. I
went and saw Paton Oswald for my anniversary just because
he happened to be near here, so I bought front
row tickets and all that kind of stuff. It was
very nice. He did a whole thing where one of
his daughters apparently has decided to get into horror movies

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and has been punching way above her weight class. She
keeps going, hey, Dad, I want to watch this movie
and him going no, that is way fucking inappropriate, and
Ner going yeah, but my friends have seen it. He's like,
I don't care, but he said. So she came home
and she was like, I want to watch the original Halloween.
And he goes, oh shit, I don't know that one's
really fucking scary, and she's like, oh please. He goes,

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I'll tell you what. I'll rewatch it and as long
as there's nothing in there that's crazy, i'll watch it
with you. And so he watches it. He's like, yeah,
it's pretty freaky, but you know, there's not really that
much blood, there's not really that much nudity. Okay, this
should be fine, and he goes. So we watch it
together and he goes, and my daughter thinks that the

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Original Halloween is the funniest movie she's ever seen in
her t he just he's so salty about it, and
he's like she just she's sitting there cussing, like what
are you doing? Like when she stabs him in the
neck with the knitting needles, she's like, stab him again,
you stupid bitch, Like what are you doing? And he goes.

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So it's a generational thing. People do not get this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
It's the thing is, the original Halloween is such a masterpiece,
but you have to be you have to sit and
watch it like a film. And the reason it captured
generations is because it was before we had phones, right,
It's when you actually sat and watched it, you know,
because even like I remember watching it on VHS when
it was like scaled down to four to three, and

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it doesn't hold up as well, like it's I didn't
understand how good it was until I watched a widescreen
version of it, because it's a completely different experience and
it's you know. And the other thing is kids these
days have a lot of trouble seeing outfits from the
seventies and taking a movie seriously, and that's not really

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their fault because there is this weird phenomen com on
now of like there are people who are alive today,
Like like there's if you can read up on this, Like,
for some reason, people from like two thousand to now
haven't really changed the way they dress and look and
talk the way we used to, if that makes sense.

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So when they see clothing from a different era, it's
like so much more shocking to them as opposed to
with us. But we were used to the idea of
every era having like a different distinct look and feel
to it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Yeah, yeah, just I mean the women that are watching
it are like in their thirties, but they're like watching
these movies and they really liked the first one. They
liked the second one enough, the third one they're like,
it's of course, but whatever, fourth one they really liked.
Fifth one, they're like, this is kind of convoluted, makes
no sense. Sixth they were like, what the fuck happened?

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
That's fair?

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
And h two l they're like, oh, Jamie's back. I
really liked that one. And then Resurrection they were like,
fucking bust a rhyme, seriously again all fair. But then
like the rob Zombie one, they watched it and they're like,
I don't know, I love this one. I thought it
was great. People call this one the white trash, hill billy,
hillbilly version of Halloween, and I don't get I don't

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know why wait.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Wait see, And I'm like, really, I'm I'm fine with
them liking the movie. I'm not fine with them not
understanding why it's called hill billy, white trash, like you
choose to like that. I don't, for the record, don't
hate rob Zombies Halloween. I just wish they would have
changed some of the characters' names around and not called
it Halloween, like it's you know what I mean, It's

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just a different movie.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
And I don't like I don't like the white trash
origin story because Michael Myers is way sterier when he
has no origin story. He's just kid from them from
the suburbs. But then, like so if you ignore all
that and then it's literally just sort of a remake
of the original at that point, yeah, which I think

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the original has done better. So I was just I'm
just sort of like.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Eh, yeah, like I agree with everything you're saying. I
just yeah, I think it. You know, again, it would
work better if it wasn't called Halloween, and if the end,
like the ending, you just change the kills around and
stuff to make it not seem like a remake.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Yeah, but yeah, but them calling it, I don't know
why people call it white trash? Why Halloween? And I'm
just like, that is the most insane comment I've ever
heard about this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
It's it's probably because eighty five percent of the characters
are white trash. That's probably why they call it. Yeah,
like everybody's white trash grows the villains.

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
It's that's so funny. So they're probably I was getting
they'll probably watch the sequel and talk about how much
they like the fucking Horse.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
I fucking hope not that one. They're gonna that one
releases on Thursday, so we'll see.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
But I'm just like, how can number one? I don't
like that you like it after you've watched.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
The the rest of them, Although I wonder when.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
You tryhilly stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
I'm like, come on, I wonder if rewatching that as
a series. Right, So you watch them all in a row,
So you're going from Buster Rhymes to Rob Zombies Halloween.
Maybe maybe Rob Zombies Halloween looks pretty good. Like if
you go from Halloween nineteen seventy eight to Halloween two

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thousand and seven, that's a huge drop off. But is
Halloween with Buster Rhymes calling him Mikey on screen? Is
that like, is Tyer Banks enough to make you go,
fuck this? I wish they'd do something completely different, and

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then you're happy because they did something completely different.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Yeah, I'm I got excited when they saw Tira and
Tyre Banks's name in the credits, like, oh, tire Baks
in this, and then they're like, oh, tire Banks didn't
do shit in this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
She drinks coffee or to that extremely fancy machine. That's true,
And I guess the opening of that movie is alright,
the part with Jimmie Lee in it is pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
Yeah, which, uh, I don't know. I'm trying not to
be frustrated about this because they obviously this is first
time reactions, so they have not seen these movies. But yeah,
like they're excited that Jamie Lee is back, and then
you know the whole thing where they kill her off
and they're like, well, but she's not dead, because we
know she shows up in like like three more movies,

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and I just in my brain, I'm just like, no,
those are don't count, Like god damn it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
But it is. It's so hard, like if people the
people who don't care enough, and you're like trying to
you want to explain the lord of them, and they
won't listen, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
Like, well, I try to be fair because for the
reaction videos, I know they don't do any and research
leading up to it because they want to. They just
want to react, like with like a clean slate to
the movies and stuff. But my horror nerd fandom starts
kicking in and I'm just like, God, damn it, how
do you not know this? Like that's kind of the
whole point. Yeah, the channel just relax, But it's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Not like the problem is it's not just that channel,
it's life in general where I'm constantly wanting to I
was listening to another podcast today and they were reviewing
Jason X and like they didn't know the lore and
I just like I just wanted to scream into my phone,
like just explain it to them and like I can
walk you through this so easily.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
And then it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, this channel
is pretty good. These girls have been They're not really
horror fans per se at the beginning. I mean, there's
like other people that do reactions, but I've only been
watching these, and they weren't necessarily horror fans, but they've
been jumping into the big horror franchises, so they didn't
like Nightmare Now Street. They did all the Friday Thirteenth movies,

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They've done all the Child's play movies. Now they're getting
through the Halloween ones. So it's been interesting kind of watching.
But yeah, there's parts of me it's just like, come on,
how do you not know this? And I'm just like, oh, yeah,
I like to know a lot of useless information.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Yeah, it's it's just so hard. I wish the rest
of the world would either get caught up or not right.
I like, I am like, it's a constant struggle for
me to not yell at people who say the wrong thing.
I want a Halloween. I once had a neighbor who
referred to the Andrew Garfield Spider Man movies as parts

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four and five.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
And I, oh, my god, I like, did you trash
his house?

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
No? I like, but I I explained to their children.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
Your parents are stupid. Let me fix this for you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Like He's kind of like casually brought it up later,
and I'm like, you know those aren't connected though.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
Right, Yeah, they don't count. Were they really confused when
they watched Spider Man the Way Home?

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
I don't know, stop talking.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
I assume you stopped talking to them.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Yeah, Like I wouldn't gonna like the idiots.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
I had a friend once they ran like a horror
news website. I'm not gonna say which one because they're
still going and I don't want to call him out.
But I had to stop listening to their podcast because
they were doing they were talking about the new Predators movie,
the one with Adrian Brodie coming up, you know, the
one that was directed by Robert Rodriguez, And I had

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to be like, bro you run a horror news site.
It's not directed by Robert Rodriguez, it's produced by Then
he yelled at me, patrolling him, and I'm just like,
you run a horror news site. Do you want to
be right or not?

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
What the fuck? So then I had to stopped listening
to their their podcast for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
I realize I'm trying to inform people so that they're correct,
and they don't care enough, and it it really bothers me.

Speaker 5 (01:18:13):
Listen, it's called it's called neurow diversion Info dumping yep.
It's the thing we do.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
Yep, it's okay. Trust me. I've realized I'm on I'm
on certain spectrums and it's just it's have to.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
It's also very funny whenever you figure out that that
particular thing partially has determined your entire life who your
friends are, because you end up with people like me
who you can info dump too. And I just get
fu excited, like new things. Tell me about the new things.
I'm gonna go tell all my friends about the new

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things too.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
Yeah. Even uh, we could talk about this. He doesn't
listen Scott. When Scott was doing one of his new podcasts,
the one where he was was it Fresh Brains, I think,
where he was having his friend watch horror movies he
hadn't seen before.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Scott's favorite hobby was starting podcasts and doing them for
a while and not doing them.

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
So yeah, we love Scott. But he was talking about
Scream and he was given the description and then was
saying like, wells Wes Craven thought horror had gotten stale
and blah blah blah and all this stuff, and I
had to send him an email by Scott, Craven didn't
write this movie. Yeah, he just came on board as

(01:19:34):
a director. Yeah, to which then the next episode he'd
a correctionscorner.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Well, the most frustrating thing is when you point stuff
out to people and they argue with you or they
don't want to like accept it, and you're like, but
that's what we're doing here, is I like, you know
what I mean? Like, because I've always had this personal
frustration when people say that, like the Friday Thirteenth series specifically,
people act like like Part four, like is there's somehow

(01:20:02):
magic because they cleaned up the bodies when they get back,
And I've always said there's like an implied time jump.
It takes Jason time to get from wherever the hospital is.
He has to walk back, and in that time, of
course they would clean up the carnage from the previous film,
Like that's what you would do. And every time I
point that out to people, there's always people who like
get really angry with you, and I'm like, well, I
don't know what to tell you, like if you know

(01:20:24):
what I mean. Like, if a character leaves a scene
wearing one set of clothes and shows up wearing a
different set of clothes, we assume something happened off screen
where he changed his clothes, right, Like, you have to
be you have to be thinking when you watch a movie.
I don't know what else to tell you. Like if
a person's over here and later they're over there and
we know they walked, then we know that had to
take a while. It's but anyway, do we just do we.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
Just discover a new a new diagnosis of horror o CD.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
I don't think it's new.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
It's parent's been arguing about it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
I've been nitpicking on podcasts since like two thousand and seven.
I mean, my mom didn't even take tail at all.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Here's a brief glimpse of some of the truly fine
pictures we schedules in the near future.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
All right, you programmed this month, and uh, you have
three movies for next week.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
It's our last week before Halloween.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Yeah, so it looks like we're going to be doing
the Werewolf versus the Vampire Woman.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Correct, which is a movie I picked because someone shared
the poster on Facebook and I'm like, that looks.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
Fun fair enough. Uh, we're teaming that up with the
House of Frankenstein and then the House of Dracula. Just
the big monster mash movies of the Universal Monsters.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Which both involve Dracula and the Wolfman either teaming up
or fighting or something.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
Thus concluding our Werewolf versus Vampire month.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
Yeah, so it should be fun. I think the Werewolf
versus the Vampire woman might include Elvira, so really, or
she may be hosted, like showed it on her show
one time, and that's the version I'm thinking of or something?

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
Is that the version we should all watch?

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
I listen. I'm not here to tell you what version
of things to watch. I saw a poster I liked
on Facebook, downloaded it to my phone, and then found
things to team it up with.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
Yeah, the movie is from nineteen seventy one, so it
looks like, Uh, it's probably something she had on her show.
Sure we could find a version of it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Yeah, that's why they invented YouTube, was for us to
be able to watch shit that they don't want us
to see exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Has Lando picked out as uh costume yet?

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Uh? He's currently fighting with his mom about it because
I think she wanted to make him and his like
sister do matching things, and then she agreed she wanted
them to both be skeletons. I think, so then he
agreed he can be a skeleton of a football player,
but then he decided he needed like a two hundred
dollars football helmet to complete his unseth And I was like, yeah,

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come on back to me if you if you want
to have a more reasonable idea. But if this is
what you guys are talking about, then I'm not involved.
So I don't know. We'll see how it goes. Orlando,
because he was like, he saw like the thing costume
from the New Fantastic Four movie when him and I
were at Spirit Halloween together and he was like, I

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want to be that, And I'm like, I don't object
to that at all, but I am not going to
like pick the fight with your mom over it. So
you go talk to her and if she says it's okay,
I'll bring you back here and we'll pick a costume.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
But you do anything fun for Halloween now?

Speaker 8 (01:24:10):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
Well, I ran a murder mystery thing last week, I'm
running another murder mystery thing this weekend, and five hundred
other fucking things. Because you know, I lack the ability
to not do too much and not stress myself out
all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
I wish I had that. I wish we mean, you
could trade like equal each other out because my motivation
to do anything has been nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:24:37):
Yeah, I unfortunately don't do it in a healthy way.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
So I have zero plans. And Halloween is on a
Friday this year.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
It's a Friday this year, so theoretically you should be
going to like some kind of Halloween party or something.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
Yeah, my friends don't have parties because they're lame. Anytime
I try to like, hey guys, let's do something, everybody's
like yeah. But one of the theaters that I go
to that has a lot of the retrospective stuff, especially
during Halloween. They are showing the Spanish language version of Dracula.

Speaker 5 (01:25:20):
This Sunday Spanish Dracula, but.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
On Halloween they are showing the original Halloween, and then
immediately following that they're showing Shawn of the Dead.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
That's a pretty good night.

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
I'm wondering if that may end up being my, uh
my Halloween evening because I got nothing else going on.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
Yeah, like, that's a pretty good night. Yeah, because it's
even like it's in the right order to write where
you do like the serious, darker movie and then you're like,
now we'll just do the fun one. Because you could
sit through shann of the Dead no.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Matter what, right, yeah, of course. Yeah, and it's like
at seven and then Shawn of the Dead's at like
nine point thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Yeah, see a few minutes in between. Stretch your legs.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
And then the next day starts the Death Stalker remake
at that theater, Okay, which I'm super excited to go watch,
just because it's directed by the guy that made Psycho
gore Man and Frankie Freco.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
So that the trailer for it is pretty fucking spectacular.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
Right, You watch it and you're like, well, they hired
the correct person.

Speaker 5 (01:26:35):
To me, Yeah, I was. I was like, how could
you possibly remake this movie? And then I watched that
trailer and I was like, okay, Okay, I get it.
I get what they're going.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
For, did you guys? Speaking of trailers, there's a trailer
for a new Sam Raimi movie out. Have you seen
that trailer?

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
Trailers out? I was seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
Yeah, so it looks like it's a horror movie.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Boss and his assistant trapped on an island together and
assistant kind of seems to go nuts, with the assistant
being played by Rachel McAdams, So it looks pretty fun.

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
Yeah, I'm always on board. When you say Sam Raimi
and horror.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Together, that's exactly. I'm like, like, I didn't even know
that he was making it, and then it just, you know,
pops up on wherever, and I'm like, oh, well, in
that case, I'll watch this trailer. And now I'm like,
I'll excited for it, so we'll see. I don't think
it comes out for a couple more months.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
You know, you know what we could talk about if
everybody wants to be a little sadder is the trailer
for the new Predator movie he's been out.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
You're sad about it because it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Looks fucking horrible. They're doing the fucking shitty thing where
the predator is the good guy, like it teams up
with the human character, but the human character is a
robot I think. But I'm like, what the hell are
you doing? And then they have predators talking to each
other with subtitles so we know what they're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
I didn't see that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
I went from maybe I shouldn't watch this trailer because
I already know I'm gonna see it too. I won't
bother watching the second trailer because I already know I'm
not going to see it in one trailer that's like
it's wow, like and it's like it's from the director
of the lot, like the Prey movie, which was really good.
And I'm like, everyone told you, guys what to do.

(01:28:28):
The whole fucking internet told you what to do. Hey,
setting a Predator movie in like olden times really worked.
Just set another one in a different time period and
do the same thing. It's fucking easy. Just go fucking
do it. And they're like, nah, what if we add
a bunch of backstory and lore and make the predators
more relatable? Fuck you, Srish.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
You didn't watch Killer of Killers? Did you?

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
Was that the animated one?

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
I did?

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
Yeah, No, but yeah that was that's more Predators throughout history.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Yeah. I thought it was pretty good too, not as
good as Prey. And I also thought, I don't know,
the animated style didn't work for me in a partator thing,
but sure it was fine. Like I wasn't mad at
it the way I'm mad at this trailer for this
new one.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Well, there's been rumors since the animated one came out,
and I guess spoiler alert for people who don't didn't
watch it, But at the very end, it shows that
a bunch of people who have fought predators before have
been put in suspended animation aboard the ship. And so
we see the girl from Prey and then Danny Glover

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from Part two, and it stops on Schwarzenegger's Dutch from
the first one. It's supposedly because of the interest that
has been generated from it. Apparently Schwarzenegger's opened that coming
back to do to play his character again like an
animated version.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
But I mean like they keep they keep trying to
do new ship with the Predator movies, and it's like,
you know what one's worked, the first one, the second one,
and pray you know why they worked because it was
the Predator shows up, Fox everything up that people have
to figure out how to destroy it. That's your formula.
You're making slasher movies. Stop trying to complicate it. Yeah,

(01:30:21):
very frustrated. Sorry, I forgot I was angry about that
until you start talking about trailers.

Speaker 4 (01:30:32):
That's what I was looking up. I was looking at
what trailers had recently. I forgot. I got all excited
by a Doug rant that I forgot to actually look.
Let's see, it was a Red Band trailer for the
new It Welcome to Day show.

Speaker 5 (01:30:47):
It doesn't. It doesn't look awful.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Frankly, it looks better than I expected it to look.
So we'll see. I mean, will I watch an IT show?
I don't know, Like I don't do I do we
know yet it's not like an ongoing thing. It's it's
like a mini series type idea.

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
Yeah, I think it's it's probably gonna be like six
or eight episodes or something like that. And that's like,
that's it fun intended, Like it's just about during its
last cycle before the eighties one where the first one set.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Look and it could be kind of fun to then
do another one with the previous cycle, like you know,
again do the predator thing, just keep setting it back
in different timeframes.

Speaker 5 (01:31:31):
I suppose the problem is though, by going backward like that,
you you know how they end, because it sure it
didn't get stopped.

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
So there's another Running Man trailer that came out, so
I'm excited about it. That looks fun.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
And see I haven't watched the new trailer. I watched
parts of the first trailer and it's kind of one
of those like kind of one of those where I'd
rather be surprised going in I.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
Think, Yeah, yeah, I guess that's all the trailers. Watch slately.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Does it feel like there's not much coming.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
A little bit? But we are heading into that sort
of winter time where they don't They just sort of
drop stuff that they don't really care about too much, which.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Can be good because that's when stuff we like gets dropped.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
Yeah. I seen trailers for a bunch of Dave Batista
stuff that looks like it's directive video.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
Probably did he lose he lost a bunch of weight.
Did do that for a specific role or is it
just a job?

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
He said, he just did it in general to kind
of open up the type of movies that he can
characters he can play. And since he doesn't need that
mass for anything anymore, like he's not an active wrestler
or he's not playing Drax anymore, like he doesn't necessarily
have to be that big. So yeah, right, yeah, so

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we'll see, we'll see if it pays off.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
I mean, he's a good actor, so like it's probably
a smart move, the idea of looking more like a
natural human being so that you can fit into different roles.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
Still shocked, shocked that of all the wrestlers turned actors
that Dave Patisa is the one that maybe has turned
out to be one of the best ones.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
Well, what's interesting about that is the fact that, like,
because his first movie was Drags, and it's like, well, yeah,
that's kind of a wrestler role, right, like one liners
and you know, action basically, and you're like, yeah, that's
what you expect a wrestler to do. But then to
see what he's gone on to do that, it's been
pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Yeah. I always point people to Blade Runner twenty forty nine, yep,
And I'm always like, look, if you're not interested in
like the idea that that it's Blade Runner twenty forty nine,
totally get it. You don't even need to watch the
whole movie. He's in the opening scene and that by
itself is its own little story, and you can watch

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that and just watch him and just be like, Wow,
he does an amazing job in that scene, and then
you can shut it off and not watch the rest
of it if you don't want. But he's fantastic. So
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
I feel like every now and again we fall back
on just praising Fatista. I think it's been a couple
of months. If you talk about a good nactory is.

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