Meatballs & Up The Creek

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Speaker 4 (00:55):
How's your week? Bed Don?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
All right, it's been too hot to do anything fun
around here lately.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
There are you officially in your like? I'm not. I'm
off work for the summer.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
No, I have to work tomorrow and then I'll be
officially off work of the summer.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Oh whoa is life to be dug?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's tough, boo, it could be us. I have to
work through our summers.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
According to the individual who has been selected to speak
to the world and be half of your country. You
guys already think you have too many holidays and would
like to voluntarily give some up.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
So actually, weirdly, if you listen to the conversations, they're
actually okay with most of the holidays. There seems to
be one holiday in particular.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I wonder how they picked that one to have a
problem with.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yeah, I wonder what's up. I wonder what that one
the holiday has about it that makes them not like it.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
It's a mystery.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
We'll never know.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
It's impossible to try and guess what goes on in
other people's brains.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
So it seems weird because, uh, someone posted some tweets
from a couple of years ago, someone may or may
not have been running for.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
President, saying that there should be more holidays.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Posted about how great of a holiday it is. He
was going to have a rally, and uh, he decided
to push it off a day out of respect for Juneteenth.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
It's it's just fascinating.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
I don't weird he is.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
It's just the most obvious like populist in the worst
in the worst way. I'm not actually fully against populism.
But I just don't understand it. I don't understand how
anyone can look at him and go, yeah, this guy's
got my back, and it's like, no, he doesn't. The
second the second he thinks the tides had turned.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
I like the people who are like, name one racist
thing he's done. And then you're like, well, I mean,
do you do you want me to just to start
when he's president or do we go back to like
the seventies he was, you know, sued for being racist.
I mean, where do you want us to start the
conversation at? And then they don't respond.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Of course you remember that, Remember that whole thing where
supposedly in front of a whole bunch of people he said,
I don't want any inwards living in my building.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
At that part, we're really living in a wasteland right now.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
So that's why I'm playing the Nude game, because it
feels like I'm living in a post apocalyptic world. But
at least there's a reason. What are you playing the
new Dune game?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Dune game? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (03:57):
What did you think?

Speaker 3 (03:58):
You said?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Bred the Nude game? And I'm like, what.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
The is the the Nude game? Also been playing that.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Which technically is just an anagram for Dune, so it
works out. I started playing Arkham Asylum again.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
So nice.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
I need some some comfort games. I guess.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
The comfort of a giant building filled with psychopaths.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Well, it's an island in this game. But yeah, sure you, Doug,
what have you been doing to stave off in sanity?

Speaker 3 (04:35):
I don't appreciate the implication that I've managed to stave
off in sanity, That's fair enough. I've been mostly researching
whether or not Rick Flair actually ships himself.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
At very I like that that's what's been on your
mind today.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
It's been on my mind NonStop, and like people keep
sending me stuff about it, and I'm like.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
I was gonna say, so I saw the host. Is
the implication that this has happened multiple times.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
One guy says it's happened at least six times.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
That is just wild.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
When he goes to these bars, gets well literally shitty
drunk where he sits himself and then has to be
hauled out and then comes back and does it, you
know a little while later.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Yeah, I mean he's an he is an old man
who's probably had a lot of concussions.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Does he just trying to find out if this is realer.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
Yeah, I just feel like, leave the guy alone, not
the guy shped his pants.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Is there, well, I think at home, not other people's business.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Sorry, when you're that old, you should be allowed to
ship yourself in public and not be harassed.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
There's a contingent of people in the service industry in Tampa,
like if you go look for this online you can
find it. Like they all like talk to each other
about how annoying it is staf Rick Flair around, like
they don't like him because they're just like he's just
keeps showing up like and sitting at the bar and
like being drunk and trying to talk to like much
much younger women and stuff, and they're all just like

(06:11):
it's it was funny like the first time, and then
all of a sudden, you're like, oh, it's just please stop.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Oh you're Rick Flair. They're like, you know, he shits
himself now and they're like, oh no, never in mind.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
So anyways, I still don't know. I have no like
confirmation that it's true, but I kind of think it's
true because.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Because it's Rick Flair and at one makes makes sense
that he just shits himself occasionally in public. Plus somebody
and just belligerent about it.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Somebody made a cartoon of him getting thrown out of
a bar with shit in his pants, and I'm like, oh,
that cartoon's pretty convincing.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
So I like the sort of the mystery in this
is Doug is researching if it's not true, because pretty
much we are all like, well that makes sense. Yeah,
let's find out if it actually is true before we
can cover really comment on it.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, you know, I feel like I'm comfortable commenting on
it right now.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
But well, Kurt Angles is going to be in town
at a convention here in a couple of weeks. Should
I ask.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Him, Yes, if you can get a mic in front
of him and ask him to comment on whether or not.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
He thinks gets drunk and ships his pants, He's gonna
be like, what, oh, it's for a horror movie podcast.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Well, knowing how much Kurt Angle tot shit, Kurt Angle
would probably be like, he shits my pants, breaks into
my house, shits in my pants.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
I really want that to happen. So funny it Yes,
any opportunity, and this is the supplies to the listeners
as well. If you have a chance to ask a
professional wrestler whether it's true or not, and let us know,
preferably in audio format. But we'll take written, we'll take video.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
We can convert that as well.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, I mean I think Kurt Angle does cameos. Should
we just get a cameo and ask him.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
I do like the fact that it's just it's any
any professional wrestler. Yeah, doesn't matter who, just some random
indie wrestler. Does he shot himself? You know he does that?

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Zach Allen guy is resurfaced, can ask him he was
the one legged wrestler.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh yeah, Okay, I'm really tempted to get like a
cameo a wrestler.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Now pay them, just pay them to make up a
story about fucking rigtler shit himself.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Kurt Angle is a hundred bucks. I don't know if
that's worth it.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
No, I have to run off here for a minute, guys,
So you guys work on the cameos and I'll be back.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Okay, all right, I mean we could literally just go
to the top. Brick Flair's on here for five hundred dollars.
We could just be like Rick, you get drunk and
shit your pants. And he'd be like, yeah, you're like, well,
here's five hundred dollars thanks. Who else? Who else is

(09:19):
on here? Shawn Michaels is on here, but he's not
currently Active'd like when you super kicked him his retirement match,
he shoot his pants.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Do you know some of that stuff is wild? Like
you think Sean Michaels needs fucking cameo money?

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Uh not currently? No? Yeah, I think his is currently off.
It looks like he mainly looks like he's signed up
in twenty twenty one and it says book me for
a limited time only. I'll be doing ten cameos only.

(10:00):
Make sure to tune into Hell in the South June
twentyth on Peacock.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
What a fucking weird thing. Okay, well it's a promotional thing.
I guess that makes slightly more sense. Yeah, it is
just strange because of all the wrestlers, he's one of
the ones who actually like it. Seems like he made
a lot of money and probably didn't spend every fucking penny.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Of it, and he's still currently working in like a
pretty high profile role. Yeah, Kevin Ash, we could ask
Kevin Nash. It's two hundred bucks. He's like an older wrestler.
I bet Jake the Snake's on here, Jake the Snake
Roberts one hundred and twenty five. See that'd be a deal.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
You think, Jake. Do you think Jake the Snake would
be Like? I can't talk about that because there's almost
certainly video of me somewhere shitting my pants.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Probably Diamond Dallas Page DDP, Like Dallas, you think Rick
Flair showed his pants? Do you think you can move
him into your house like you've been doing with other
wrestlers and try to rehab him a little bit?

Speaker 5 (11:03):
I was gonna say that's the problem. I think he's
such a genuinely nice person that I don't think he
would talk shit. Probably not not that way anyways.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
See if I can find a contemporary of Flair, I mean,
Flair wrestled for so long, I guess he has a
lot of contemporaries. But um, all right, apparently Greg the
Hammer Valentine is not on Cameo. Mmm, who's left any.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
I'm trying to say the problem is, yeah, he's over
such a long period of time, Like whenever I try
to think of him, I'm like, who, like Dusty Rhodes.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Dead?

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Because I mean what Hulk Hogan Like, whenever a Hulk
Cogan hit it big, I think he was already like
a fucking three time champion, right like, oh yeah, crazy.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
People will thought of him is like, oh yeah, hul
Cogan's gonna start replacing Ric Flair. Tito Santana. Now there's
a guy you can ask and it's only fifteen bucks,
perfect like Tito. Do you think Rick Flair should Dispenseta?
He was the matador for a while when they had

(12:21):
to convert everybody into a profession of some sort.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
A racist profession. Of course, are you Hispanic? You're a metador?

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Oh, we can ask Buff Bagwell, he'll know Jesus. But
you get both of them, says Marcus Bagwell and Scottie Riggs,
like when they were in that American Males Uh tag team.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
I was gonna see he's one of the ones that
Buff Bagwell. I don't think I've ever heard someone say
a good thing about him.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
No, probably not. His dark side of the ring was interesting.
Here we go, Stevie Richards thirty bucks. I'd probably be
worth it. He's pretty straight up. He does a lot
of videos on the YouTube's about wrestling and stuff. He's
pretty open about Maven. I know, Maven's gotta be on here.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
It's like, why was that? I was almost thinking that
Mavin was dead for some reason, But I guess that's
probably not true.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
No, Man's not on here. No, Maven's uh sort of
come back to wrestling a little bit. He's a YouTube
channel now, Huh. Raven, on the other hand, seems like
he should be dead. Oh, Raven is on here seventy
five dollars. Raven seems like the one who would be like, yeah,

(13:48):
I'll tell you guys, all right, Doug, you gotta pick
you gotta pick pick wrestler. We're gonna get a cameo
from to ask this question.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
We're actually still on that.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
So I mean, we could go with someone who is
more from like Rick Flair's time period, so Tito Santana's
on here and it's only like fifteen bucks. Or we
could go with someone like Stevie Richards, who does a
lot of videos on YouTube about wrestling and stuff. Yeah,

(14:29):
it seems like he'd probably be pretty open about you know,
fuck Ric Flair. He shits his pants all the time.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, there's just a chance he's going to talk about it.
Whether we pay him to or not, like this a
pretty good chance. There's a YouTube video with him talking
about it.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Possible this is the only thing. Or we go to
somebody who really doesn't give a fuck, has always been
pretty open, and we go with Raven. His is seventy
five dollars.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
It's that's that's not good.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
I thought maybe would be on here so we could
get a whole Cogan to comment on it, because whole
Cogan would be like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Brother?

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Uh, I'm the one who started uh shitting your pants.
I was the first one to do it, and then
everybody else was like, yeah, that's really cood.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
He didn't he didn't shp his pants. I shipped those pants.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah, I did it first, Like they asked me to
ship the pants and I had to say no because
I was too busy at the time.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
So Tito Santana sounds like the winner from the discussion
to me because of the fifteen dollar thing.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Or uh, buff Bagwell, we could probably get him to tell.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Us former male prostitute turned pro wrestler buff bagwell.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Well, former former wrestler turned male prostitute buff.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Back please his career trajectory.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, come on you Gotta get the order right, and
he wasn't a known prostitute. It was it was an accident.
He didn't realize they were going to make him have
sex with women when he was on the show about
mail Jigglos having sex with women and getting paid for it.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
You don't accidentally become a Jigglo. That can't happen. It's
just not how it is. Anyways.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
No, if you really want to have sex with women,
you should go to summer camp. Yeah, well doerr awkward?
So this is supposed to be two movies about going
to summer camp. I completely misunderstood what one of the
movies was about. Unfortunately it did ruin the team up

(16:48):
of having Up the Creek and then without a paddle.
That would have been a better double feature.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
That's what should have happened. Yeah, much more closely aligned films.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah, and uh, spoiler alert, I'm never watching Up the
Creek again. So, yeah, what happened? Hey Doug, why do
you tell us about meatballs?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Meatballs? There's a summer camp and a bunch of kids
go to it. Bill Murray is one of the counselors. Yeah,
I don't know if I can give you a plot
description of this film.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
That's pretty much the plot.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
There's a series of bignettes that happen which are all
vaguely camp related and sometimes heavily involve the children at
the camp. But some of the big nets are just
the counselors when they're not around. No one's really sure why.
Some of the counselors are Bill Murray's age, and some
of them are like seeming like college kids, but whatever.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Sure, also the question of why does Bill Murray look
like he's fifty five in this movie?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
He looks older in this than he did in like Ghostbusters, Like.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
He looks yeah, true, true.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
I don't know why he looks so.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Old in this Something is weird, something is wrong with
the timeline.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
So here's the thing about that, though, I don't care,
because he is like, by far the saving grace of
this film.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
He is, Oh it's the best part.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, he is. His Bill Murray nous shines through in
such a way where he gets to be the complete
asshole of the movie, but the entire time you really
like him because he's being nice to that one kid,
and he just pulls it off. Everything he says is
either touching or funny at every time, every turn of

(18:30):
the movie, and there's a lot of other times in
the movie where you're like, I don't know why I'm
watching this, I don't know what's going on, and then
all of a sudden, Bill Murray shows up and delivers
the punchline, and you're like, so worth it. I'm glad
I sat through the other scene.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, rewatching that. I literally just got done watching this
about half an hour before we started, and then I
was playing video games up to start recording. I was
just sitting there and suddenly it was a super nostalgic
for early Bill Murray movies. Yeah, so rewatching just seeing

(19:02):
that energy coming off of him, I'm just like, oh man,
so good. A right, I love this era of Bill Murray.
Bill Murray now is still pretty good too, but yeah,
there was nothing like this first we'll say, like ten
years of Bill Murray movies.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
They do the thing in this film too, where they
just have him doing like morning announcements. So it's just
like just put a microphone in front of Bill Murray
and let him make a few jokes, and like when
they're cutting between like scenes, they just have that. They
just have you see Bill Murray grab a microphone and
then you see clips of the camp with just his
voiceover just being funny, just and you're just like, yep, perfect,

(19:41):
that's what this film needs, because I mean, the story
is not going to carry it through. And I mean
there aren't characters. Yeah, there's characters to the extent that
there's one kid that's kind of spazy, so they call
him Spaz, and there's you know, one kid's fat, so
that's his that's his character arc.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
I guess that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
I do love that Bill Murray straight up whenever they
introduce the kind of like sad kid that's having a
hard time, he like straight up calls it out. He's like, oh,
so you're the depressed get it camp.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
It's like very meta.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I love Bill Murray's interactions to that kid because he
like he does that with him. Then he brings him
in and he sits him down. And then later like
when the kids are mean to him because he's never
played soccer before at twelve, which is pretty weird, but
he finds him like at a bus stop like trying
to leave, and he just likes the best. He just
literally sits to them and goes like yeah, like, what
in your mind you shouldn't make friends. You're not going

(20:39):
to make friends. Maybe you make one friend. That's it, Like,
that's it.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Why, Just like that, he doesn't make a big deal
about him, Yeah, planning on leaving. Oh, he just sits
down and foks around with him and he's just like, oh,
so you're heading out of here? Huh. Look, I mean
if it's Vegas, I'm on board, and just comes up
with this whole scenario of them going to Vegas.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah. No, And there's something about an adult character that
takes a child who's like kind of an outcast under
their wing the way he does. Yeah, and just like
completely just spends the rest of the movie trying to
make that kid feel comfortable. There's some great moments where
they're like playing like blackjack or whatever. In Bill Murray's Cavin,

(21:22):
they're just playing for like peanuts or whatever, so that
you know it's not it's not a Captain Ron situation
where you have to worry that he's taking the kids money.
But it's like, you know, they're just playing. And then
it's like and he's I don't know if you want
to if we're supposed to take it, but he's like
kind of letting the kid win, I think, and he's like,
you know, just making him feel at home in a

(21:43):
way that.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
They're playing for literal peanuts. Yeah, and they dump the
whole all the peanuts he wins into like a sum
brow and he's like, there's starving kids in the world.
You're walking around with a sun brow full of peanuts.
I hope you feel good about yourself.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
It makes me want to go out and buy a
sombrero full of peanuts so I can say that people.
He's just so delightful in this movie. And there's something
about his line. There's a point in this movie where
two of the guys, it's just some random, like forty
second thing where two of the guys sneak under the

(22:22):
girl's cabin. I'm not entirely sure why they're under there,
but they try, and then the girls find out they're there,
so they sneak out, and the one guy, he's the
fat one, so he's too slow to get out, so
they steal his pants, and I'm like, what, like what
is happening? Like I don't understand why they're under there,
Like it's not like they can't see through the floorboards.

(22:42):
Or something, you know what I mean, Like that would
make sense in a camp movie. So I'm like, this
is dumb. I don't know why I'm watching this. This
is stupid. And then the next morning it's like you
just get the announcements and Bill Murray's just going, yeah,
there's a pair of very fat pants hanging from the
flag pole this morning. It was so worth watching them
crawl under that cabin and go through all the nonsense

(23:03):
of them getting stuck, trying to get out and stuff.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
I would not be surprised if Bill Murray just improved
of that and they're like, oh, fuck now we have
to come up with the scene and just shot the scene.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
I could see that, because that scene is like I
don't understand it at all. I don't like, why would
you go under a cabin?

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Yeah, because it's not like they're trying to look in
the showers or anything like that. They're literally just crawling
under to listen to the girl's talk.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
That boring like who yeah, who? Like what like like
you give two Like what are they supposed to be
eighteen year old boys who are like, sure, we can't
get laid, let's crawl under the girls?

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Pervert?

Speaker 3 (23:42):
But no, but listen. In a Kid in a Camp movie,
the idea of these two guys try to peek on
the girls in the shower. They get caught and the
girls like do something to them, like steal their pants
and run it up a flagpole. It's like a pretty
normal joke. It's what you expect. I don't understand what
it going under the cabins? Does it really? It marks me?
These guys are so bad at being perverts.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
I'm just mad that they're bad at their jobs.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Like, I don't even know if they deserve to be
punished for that. It's like, what, Oh no, they're gonna
overhear us having a conversation.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Now, there is some weird shit in this movie because
unfortunately Bill Murray's love interests, they do the typical thing
they did in the eighties where she's not interested in him,
but he just keeps pressuring her and pressuring her until
she has to give in because he's so charming.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
That's what love is, pressuring some being with you.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
I don't know. I don't know if I took it
that way, but it's possibly. I just didn't care.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Well, there's a scene where he's like trying to like
get on top of her and she's trying to get
away and she keeps saying no, but he just keeps
doing it, and then eventually she just gives in.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
I guess the way I took that, And maybe it's
just me not wanting to admit Bill Murray's the bad guy,
but I like I took it as they had an
existing relationship from the previous summer, and this was considered
playful fun between the two of them, and then like,
and maybe that's just because he's so charming. I wanted
to make excuses for him.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Sure, I think it's just typical eighties like that was
just the thing in the eighties, specifically eighties movies that
it's just oh, that rascal, and then you just kind
of roll your eyes and move on.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
That's silly Billy Murray.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Considering even like we were just talking about trying to
peek in on the girl's shower, was just like, what
how those silly boys and then everybody goes about their day.
Where's more Like twenty twenty five were like, oh, that's
that's like sexual assault pretty much.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
So yeah, fuck you guys, all right, So what did
you guys have any favorite thing? Nets did you like
when they randomly played basketball against the evil camp, the
evil rich kids from the next camp that had matching uniforms,
so we hate them.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
I like the Bill Murray's like, look, we're not gonna win,
so let's just lose. Let's do it by panting everybody.
It'll be funny and hilarious.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Like what I'm trying to think of, Like, what else
even happened in this movie besides Bill Murray. I'm like,
at the end, there was a race, but I don't
know that there was a lot building up to that race.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
There was the other two counselors that apparently dated the
year before but now had broken up, but then they
just sort of get back together.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
It wasn't all that interesting. Really.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
There was that one girl that like had a boat
for some reason, and she picked up the other guy
and took him for a boat ride and said she
liked him.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Oh yeah, there was that.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
That served no purpose. The one scene that I did
find funny was when the one girl, like the whole
crowd started chanting for like gossip and like the mess hall,
and the one girl got up on the stairs just
started telling everybody's gossip. And everybody's cheering and eventually that
owner guy freaked out. Mickey, Yeah, I love the I
did really enjoy the running joke. They have the the

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scene where the counselors sneak in and like tie the
guy to his bed and like move his bed so
that he's somewhere else when he wakes up, and then
throw out the movie. Every now and again you just
have a scene of him waking up in some weird
spot and it finally, like like the end of the
movie spoiler alert is like everybody's leaving and he wakes
up and he's on a raft in the middle of
the lake. Like that was that was a really funny

(27:35):
like running gag. And it's just like that's like because
because the first time they do the whole like big
scene of how they do it, and then every other
time it's just there's his bed just in a tree, now,
all right.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
And I kind of like that the way his character is.
He's not even he's not even like a dick or anything,
but all the counselors just give him shit all the time, yeah,
and play praying on him. But it was more just
because they like him more than anything else, not because
he's like an asshole or yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, there's no real villain in this movie. Like everybody's
just kind of like they're all picking on that guy.
But he's not like the oh I'm gonna fire whoever
did this to me or anything. He's like, oh, you guys,
like you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
There's the was it the Mohawk camp or whatever is
that what it was called. Like they're kind of the villains,
but there's not even like the central character to rally
around for them to be the villains teach individual events,
like they bring somebody in from that camp to go
against whoever our camp.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
But like it's like they're the villains because they're better
than us at basketball. It's like, well, that's not really
a crime. And then like at the end they have
that race and it's just like they nominated guy to race,
and we nominated guy to race. It's it like it's.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
There's a hot dog eating contests and they have a
really big guy come in for that, but are resident
fat guy is gonna finally earn his keep? Yeah. I
don't know. There's something about this movie that I just
absolutely love it, and it may just be from growing
up and watching it and that's completely it.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
See this was the first time watch for me.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Oh really yeah, okay interesting.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
So I will say, like the complete lack of narrative
really irked me watching it, sure, the complete lack of characters. Like,
for me, comedy works best when it's one of two things.
You can have like absurdist comedy, like just big, over
the top everything's like a like airplane style, or you
can have like sort of semi dramatic comedy where there's

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a story and there's funny things happening along the way
in the story. And this is neither. This is this
is like the nature of the humor is what you
would expect to see in you know, a John Hughes
level film or like all the other people that have
come after John Hughes that I'll copy him like you're
Kevin Smith's and your jud appataus and all that. You
know what I mean. There's that style of humor where

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even when it's like over the top or it's more subtle,
it's still always part of a story. The humor all
flows together that way. That's the nature of the humor
in this But it's there is no story for it
to wrap itself around, just a bunch of stuff that happens.
It's definitely an end then story, like you're like the

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kids show up and then they play soccer, and then
they play basketball, and then there's a swimming scene and
then you know, none of it's really connected.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Yeah, I guess the only real like through line is
the shy kid trying to become more confident. But it's
not even like there was like one scene of them
like you don't know how to play soccer, and that's
like the extent of it. Like otherwise it's just hanging
out with Bill Murray.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
For there's zero percent chance that that qualifies as eighties bullying.
It's like it just no, maybe that's bullying in twenty
twenty five, but not in nineteen eighty.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Whatever I was gonna say, nineteen eighty. They didn't try
to kill him.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah, so didn't even And like I don't know, like
there is something weird about being twelve and having never
played a soccer game in any capacity before, Like it's
you know, you should at least know kickball at net.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
Like I feel like I feel like Doug's stance is
this kid wasn't bullied, and I would have bullied him
so much harder.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
I would have climbed a tree when the rest of
when it was soccer time and just tried to hide
so I didn't have to play.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
But so, I don't know if you know this, Doug.
There were four Meatballs movies on together.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yes, I've seen some of them.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
The second one is so bad.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
What's the one with the alien?

Speaker 5 (31:50):
That's the second one.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I remember seeing that when I was a kid, and
I remember enjoying it. But I was a kid.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
So I will also point out whenever I went to
watch this usually the thing I do is I check
the show YouTube to see if Brian owns it. And
Brian owns the bad one. The second one, technically I do.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
I do own the first one. It's just it's not
compatible with movies anywhere.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
This is one of those things. I was like, the fuck, Brian,
what what fuck ass uh fucking thing did you buy?

Speaker 3 (32:28):
You know?

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Uh? So? The third one, as the ghost of a
dead porn star comes to earth to help a nerd
with his sex life by Patrick Dempsey.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
I've heard of that.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Shannon Tweet is also in it. The Love Goddess. I'm
assuming that's the porn star. I don't know that. Yeah,
it's gotta.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Be reasonably confident that Shannon Tweet please the porn star.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Uh, and I believe the first three were theatrical. Part
four is when we go direct to video because it
starts the one and only Corey Feldman. Uh. A summer
camp owner brings in an expert water ski instructor who
is Corey Feldman, to compete against his rival's camp at
a high stakes contest.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Jesus, it just sounds like a dumb idea.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Let's see Corey Feldman. And I'm scrolling through and I
do not recognize a single other name in this movie.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
That sounds about par for the course for a Corey
Feldman movie.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
So Corey Feldman in nineteen ninety two killed off the
Meatballs franchise.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I love.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
I love the fact that after making those shit fucking
movies that they were making, somebody has the balls to
say that it's Corey Feldman's fault. But it's that one.
It's the fourth.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Hey, c first one Fatballs franchise, you know.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
The first one to go to direct a video. It's
all Feldman's. Well, at least the other one had a
porn star in it. Uh. No, I'm assuming you've seen
this one before.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, I have.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
So I have weird feelings toward it. I actually remember
liking it more than I liked it this time rewatching it.
This time, I kind of rewatch it and I was like, oh,
you know what, Bill Murray funny, but this isn't a
good movie, you know.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
I mean, I think you're technically right what you're saying. Yes,
I think it's.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Like, I think a lot of people's memories of this
film because it came out in an error where people
would have watched it like once and then only remembered
parts of it. I think your brain kind of assumes
there's a story and you're only remembering parts of the story,
and then when you realize there isn't, it can be
a problem.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
So well, seems like every summer I subject us to
some sort of summer camp movies. Yeah, and so I
feel like the actual story and actual execution of this
movie is not really any different than most of the
other ones. Just this one has Bill Murray in it. Yeah,
so that makes it already just better. I mean, usually

(35:09):
Bill Murray, when he comes into a movie, he even
admits it. Yeah. I usually just throw the script away
and just improvise throughout the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
RAN's argument is that somehow putting Bill Murray in your
movie is better than having Michael J. Fox and you're
made for TV movie that he made us watch last year.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Well, yeah, I mean that's fair. That's a fair assessment,
I think.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah, I mean, I.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Love Michael J. Fox, but I mean, come on, but.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I mean it's it's one of those things where you're like, yeah, like,
if you've only got one thing going for your movie,
if you don't have a great script and you don't
have any real developed characters or actors who can do anything,
and you've got Bill Murray and just do whatever Bill
Murray wants, Like right, It's different if he's part of

(35:53):
an ensemble cast and a well written story and all that.
You know, but that's that clearly wasn't the case here.
Or he improved so much that it ruined the story
and they had to edit it out.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Do you think that's what it actually is the reason
why this, like the movie feels so disconnected in spots
is because Bill Murray was just improvising the ever loon
fuck out of everything, and they kept going, well, god
damn it, that's funnier than what we rode.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah, so now nothing else makes sense?

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, I mean I would assume, like the morning announcement
stuff that he does, that they just like let him
ramble and then picked what they wanted to use. Right,
I'm assuming that wasn't scripted, But I don't know. That's
how it feels when I watched the movie.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Oh here we go. So according to some of the
feature outs on the DVD, several of the shots of
the movie were added after the initial filming ended, so
there were reshoots. He's included the scenes of Rudy and
Tripper at the bus station and then playing Blackjack for
peanuts sort of. The two big scenes that we commented
is what really made us fall in love with like

(37:03):
the characters.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
The two best scenes in the movie were ad ins, Like, well,
pretty much, what the hell was the movie about? Without
those two scenes?

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Uh, let's see John Belushi convince Bill Murray to accept
the part winting out There would be Murray's first film
and he would be the star. I guess that'd be true. True. Mm.
We should point out this is directed by Ivan rightmon
so it at least got them working together before Ghostbusters.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, it's just weird that it's dirrected by Ivan Rightman
because you don't see you don't see the talent shining.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Through m.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
But yeah, see trying to see if there's anything interesting.
Cast members did their own stunts.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Most of the cast members are children. That is a crime.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Uh, first major studio picture directed by Ivan Raymans. This
is his first movie.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Major studio picture. Is like a bit of a stretch,
Let's be honest.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
It's never explained why the movie title is meatballs, except
meatball is a general term for a silly person, and
the campers in the movie in this movie, do you
act silly? I think calls Spas a meatball while they're
playing tennis.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, somebody like they call
each other meatballs at least once or twice through it,
so I don't know, it's far fetched.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Many scenes Featuring and the other counselors were deleted in
order to add more scenes with Bill Murray and Rudy.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Well, yeah, correct the reason for that, and nobody gives
a fuck about those other people.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Not it's not even close, Like it's not one of
those like, oh, well maybe you know that. I also
liked this other character. It's like no nobody watchedes this
movie for spaz okay.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
According to the book Wild and Crazy Guys, Bill Murray
didn't agree to make the movie until the first day
of shooting. Jesus Christ It fright Rightmand been trying to
secure a deal with Murray for several weeks, but Murray
was disinclined to work that summer as he was following
a certain Triple A baseball club on the road. Also,

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he also wasn't sure about making movies. That the sudden
fame of SNL was overwhelming to him, and he feared
a movie career might disacerbate the feeling. In the end,
he did decide to make the movie, and when he
arrived on set, the first thing he said to the
director Rightman was this is kind of crap, referring to
the film script. Yeah, I mean nothing, nothing, nothing false

(39:51):
about that.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
So what's the timeline? So when when is Meatballs? And
then win his Ghostbusters.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Balls? I believe is eighty one?

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Ghostbusters is eighty four?

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Yeah, just the I mean, the improvement in both of
them in that period's tip is crazy.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Because the improvement in Bill Murray as an actor between
the two he's a lovely character in this but he's
not an actor. He's not doing a great job acting.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Eddie Deson was considered for the role Spas, but he
turned it down.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
You know what, I think this movie could have used
some medi Deson. That's the type of I feel like
that's the type of specific character actor that was kind
of lacking to make this kind of a movie.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yeah, you don't think the fat guy was fat guy
enough in the guy that plays Chubbs and tem Wolf
to do it.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
I just gotta say fat guy wasn't as fat guy
as the fat guy in the other movie we're going
to talk about who. I don't know that actor's name,
but he's also known as annoying fat guy in every
fucking random eighties movie.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
Well all right, well let's just jump into it. No I,
why don't you tell us about Up the Creek.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Up the Creek. It's about some dudes who go to
a fucking just the shittiest college you've ever seen because
it looks like it's fucking the apocalypse. It looks like
they're going to college in the high school from a
class of eighty four. You know, Pad.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
You're not like.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
They are sort of forced by the dean of the college.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
To enter by played by Higgins from Magnum p I.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
Yeah, played by Higgins from Magnum Pi, and they are
forced to enter into a raft race that his school
has lost every year for as long as that school
has either existed or since the world ended. Somebody will
have to clarify. And it turns out they're going up

(42:06):
against a boatload of preppy douchebags who have paid off
one of the judges to give them weapons and to
rig the race. So the race is rigged, and they
have deadly, deadly weapons, real weapons. And also the main

(42:28):
character talks as if he's writing a novel and he's
banging random blonde girl from eighties movies while she travels
around with her friend, who is blonde Girl from Revenge
of the Nerds.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
At the end, she I don't I couldn't remember if
he was her actual boyfriend or they were just she
was into him. But he's like the t MoU version
of uh of Johnny Lawrence from eighties movies.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
Yes, something along those lines.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
I was thinking more like the Brad Serve from Night
of the Creeps.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Okay, yeah, like a lesser version of that I think
everything in this movie is a lesser version of well.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
It totally is, because you could tell that they were
whoever like when they made this they were excited because
they were like, we got two of the stars from
Animal House to be in our movie that really wants
to be an Animal House trying Tim Matheson and the
fact I were both an Animal House and I like,

(43:41):
this movie is not good.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Here's how Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that there
is a group that are the army group that have
won the last blah blah blah years who get disqualified
because they're trying to blow something up and get blown out.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
It's fine, nobody cares, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
I guess that that actually is the main plot technically
is I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
I think I will be the first to admit I
do not know the plot because this movie could not
hold my interest and it.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Was like a lot of oh true.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Like I was just like like doing other things and
I'd be like, oh shit, I'm to be watching the
movie like oh it.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Was like how I started reading trivia about this because
I'm like, what the fuck happened? And apparently whoever the
lead was dropped out and then they hired Steve Guttenberg
and he was like yeah, and then he's like, oh no,
I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna go do this
movie called Police Academy instead, and so then he dropped out.
Correct decision, good choice. And then they brought in Tim

(44:39):
Matheson for some reason, and he was like, and I
did all this in Animal House, but I guess I
could do it again.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Do you think do you think that some of those
movies where like the director and writer are convinced that
they actually were making a good movie and they got
screwed on casting. They're like, man, if we would have
had the goot, No, I.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Don't think any casting was going to fix this movie,
just so wording.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
The director has gone on record saying that it wasn't
good because he's not good at jokes. He went on
to direct other stuff that he's known for, and I'm
completely blanking.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
On Is it like drama?

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Maybe it was like rom coms. I think may have been.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
You mean things that aren't funny. True, here's how bad
this movie is for people who haven't seen it and don't.
But we talked about how the running gag of like
the constant, like the guy waking up in funny places
in the last movie. In this movie, they also have
a gag but a guy getting woken up and it's
every day he waits the birds outside his window wake

(45:47):
him up, and he keeps like first he starts by
like throwing a shoe at them, and it just keeps
escalating until it's like he's using a bazuka to shoot
at these birds.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
So it's like.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Shoe something else, bow and arrow, gun bazuka.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
Right, It's interesting that whenever you describe that joke, I'm like, yeah,
that's funny, And it is because they.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Do it all in the first like four minutes of
the movie. That's supposed to be a recurring joke that
should be happening constantly throughout the film so that you
have time to sit with it and you have time
to like think about other things. And then you're like, oh, yeah, right,
that joke. That's what makes it fun. When you do
it all in a row in like over the course
of the opening credits, it's not funny. It's like, h

(46:28):
it's stupid. It's it's just a failure.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
I remember sitting there and being like, why does this
keep happening, Like, what does this one do have against
this bird that he's trying to kill it for the
first fifteen minutes of the movie.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
It's yeah, it's just it's stupid, and it's like it's
just an utter failure, Like because it would be a
nice easy way to have cuts between your scenes would
be to have that character like, for whatever reason, one
line of dialogue, he stays home to sleep while the
rest of them go in the raft race, and whenever
you need to cut away to like jump from one
scene to the next, you cut back to him trying

(47:00):
to sleep and the bird keeps waking him up. That
could be a funny running gag throughout the film, but
they just weren't interested in being funny, I guess.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Looks like this guy was mainly like a TV director
from like starting in the sixties, the Big Stuff. Apparently
he directed two episodes of the original Twilight Zone.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
We'll see that was a hilarious show.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
They're from season five, and then he did stuff like
Remington Steel and Hill Street Blues and stuff like that. Yeah,
so yeah, not goofy, goofy frat comedy like this was
not if.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
You remember sitting up late at night in the eighties
watching Remington's Steal and just laughing, just holding your gut laughing.
Then this is the film for you, because it's about
the same level of comedy if I remember correctly.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Right, He directed The Barefoot Executive, which was.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
The fucking Monkey Works in an Office.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Hurt Russell with the monkey. Yeah, yeah, from the Disney movie.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Yeah, I've never seen it.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Did we do it on the show? We did the
Computer War Tennis Shoes, then another one?

Speaker 3 (48:08):
I know, Yeah, I don't know. I don't mean I
think i'd remember a monkey in an office.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Yeah. Otherwise most of his stuff is forgettable. Yeah, it's
all like TV stuff. He did in one episode of Moonlighting,
Lewis and Clark, the New Adventures of Superman. So yeah, yeah,
this obviously was not his forte Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Like why I don't get it, Like why hire a
guy like this?

Speaker 4 (48:32):
I don't know. Yeah, but he's at least like truthful,
like in interviews he's just like, yeah, apparently I'm not
good at jokes like that. And so it didn't.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Work, and I mean fair enough.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Yeah. Yeah, because this movie, like you said, could not
hold your attention. I was sitting there watching it and
I'm just like, what, like, what is nothing is fucking
happening in this movie? Like I clicked to look and
it's like forty minutes and I'm like, no, he's even
gotten into a raft yet. Like this movie is about
a raft race. Nobody's like number one, it's a two

(49:06):
day race. The race hasn't even started yet. The number two,
it's just it's sort of like we'll say, like Cannonball
Run where it's like all these different teams are showing
up to shit and then sort of interacting with each other,
but it's like the most boring interactions ever, and nothing
fun is happening. Nobody's playing pranks on each other, like

(49:27):
nobody's doing anything, and.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Like then they get on the river and they're shooting
fucking exploding crossbows.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Right but also like knives.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
In it, these guys are failing out of college. So
the dean tells them if they win a raft race
that they're completely unqualified to be in, they'll get to graduate.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
Yeah, that's your blood. Not only will they graduate, they
can get a degree and anything they want. But then
that never comes back, like that's never like literally as
soon as spoiler, they win the race, as soon as
they do. They're like the credits roll, like there's there's
no like we did it and or anything.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Or but I don't know. The look. There's a there's
a level of like, just give the movie its premise
that I can go with in almost anything, but the
idea that all of these colleges compete against each other
in a raft race, and that it's so important to
this dean that he's going to give away degrees in
exchange for winning. And then his plan to win is

(50:30):
get a bunch of losers who have never been on
a raft before to.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Exist for him. See it's the better idea would be
that the dean this you know the dean, Uh, these
are like the was it four or five worst students
at the school, and he's like they're really dragging down
our you know or average scores or whatever.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
Our post apocalyptic hell.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Yes, if we can get these five students out of here,
are you know, our average will go way up and
we'll get more money from the governor, you know, some convoluted,
made up bullshit. And then like he's like, I know
what I'll do. I'll tell them if they don't win
this race, they're all expelled, which you know, legally you

(51:17):
couldn't do. But it's eighties, so sure. And then it's
him trying to sabotage the race the entire time. Like
I feel like that's an actual Like that's a better
plot than with his movie is.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
I mean, a lot of things are a better plot
than what this movie is.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
I agree. And I put this on the on the
list because I was like, oh, zany, what I thought
was summer camp fun with the raft Race in it?
Sure went on? Sure, turns out it was a college
movie with the raft Race in it.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Terrible again, a comedy film that's boring.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Yes, which is the worst.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
How do you justify it? How do you like? Let's
let's stop being so negative. When each of you tell
me one thing you've enjoyed about the movie.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
There's lots of boobs in the movie, that's true.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
No, what's your one thing? Can't you can't say I
also like boobs.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
I actually so of all the things that I thought
were actually maybe a little bit funny, the the army
guys occasionally were funny.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Can you provide an example.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Well, most most of it has to do with like
the the two black guys that are in the group,
who occasionally like are like, we're not gonna go help
the other guy, who fucking hate that. This is really funny.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
I felt kind of racist watching this because I looked
during one scene, I was like, when they first showed up,
I'm like, is that Michael Winslow And turns out it's not.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Oh, that is racist of you. I wouldn't have admitted that.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
Yeah, yeah, but that's it. I'd mean, like, really, most
of the jokes that's them were so dumb. I mean
the movie, the ending of the movie, the last thing
that happens is the army guy tries to kill them
one more time, and he runs up with a grenade
and he pulls the pin on the grenade and he
throws the pin and then looks down and realizes he's
holding a grenade, jumps off screen and it explodes and

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the movie ends.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Yeah. I mean, I don't.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Even remember half the stuffing us are saying right now
because I was so bored watching it.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Somehow, and I don't remember how it happened. But like
something breaks so that water is like rushing through the
main cabin at the finish line, Yeah, they preps think
they're gonna win, and then all of a sudden, this
torrent like torrent of water comes bursting through the cabin
and then our misfits show up on a.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
Raft and yeah, so the army guys blow up part
of the river levee to change the course of the
river in an attempt to once again murder the other
team because they were discalified, and of course they redirect
the river through the corrupt officials house.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
You played by the dad from dougiy Hauser.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
By the way, the evilist of dads.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
The dad on Dougie Hauser was a good guy. He's
an asshole in this movie where he supposed to be anyway, but.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
He was Oh okay, everything was so poorly written and
executed that I wasn't well.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
He's the one that gives the preppy guys all the
weapons and ship. But whatever, it doesn't matter. This movie
is terrible. Don't ever watch it.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
No, it's again a comedy film that's boring. How do
you pull that off?

Speaker 4 (54:43):
No?

Speaker 5 (54:44):
I don't know. I guess by not being funny. Is
that too smarty of an answer?

Speaker 3 (54:51):
That's maybe it's just smarmy enough.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
Whatever, it's the appropriate level of smarm.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I wish this movie had some smarm in it.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
They forgot to add smarm.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
No, but remember when the fat guy for some reason
goes down to the fridge that is fully stocked in
whatever house slash dorm he's living in, he steals like
fully cooked turkeys and slices of American cheese and then
just squirts a whole bottle ketchup into the pillow cases.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
Put it all on grace.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, that did happen.

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Speaker 4 (56:05):
Hey, what did everybody watching this last episode?

Speaker 5 (56:08):
I actually watched. I got out to the theaters and
saw twenty eight years Later, which.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Doug also watched.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
I watched the entire trilogy. I watched twenty eight days later,
twenty eight weeks later, and twenty years later.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
I feel like I need to go back and rewatch
them after seeing the new one, because I was like,
I don't Tonally remember this being what was going on.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
It's I think it's pretty accurate to the original film,
is it? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (56:41):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (56:42):
I mean keeping in mind that twenty eight years have
passed in between.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Sure, so I guess, especially the ending, because the ending
is bonkers, and I was like, is this is this
what it was?

Speaker 3 (56:58):
The ending is something different altogether, so yx most of
this film is very dark, very serious. It's kind of
contemplative is a word other people have used, And I'm like, yeah,
I can see that.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
It's kind of like, yeah, it really is a I
don't know. It's strange. It feels like this movie is
four different movies, right, like Tonally, it's just that it
shifts because the first bit is kind of this father

(57:35):
son not an adventure thing, and then it kind of
shifts and then it actually feels like a horror movie
for a minute, and then it's oh no, no, it's
so this is a more like an epic fantasy where
the boy has to become a man and carry mom
across the world or whatever. But then it shifts again

(57:57):
and it becomes this very poetic.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah, all this stuff at the at the monument is
really interesting and fun. It's not fun, it's not the
right word, but there's something about listening to that character
like drenched in iodine to protect himself from infection, scraping
the flesh off human skulls, and waxing poetic. You're just like, ah,

(58:22):
there's something about that that I really enjoyed, right it
ship It shifts tone several times, and I like, I
enjoyed it. I thought each kind of part worked on
its own, and then it's I like that it was
hard to guess what was coming next and where everything
was headed, and certainly like it sets itself up as

(58:46):
one kind of a movie and then takes a quick turn,
and then another quick turn, and you're like, okay, I
have no idea what is going to happen, and then
I obviously the ending is unpredictable.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
I do feel like that. I feel like they set
they set you up to go, oh yeah, yeah, I
just have no idea what's gonna happen next, and then
that ending happens. You're like, okay, listen, I didn't know
what was gonna happen next, but I could not have
been prepared for this. No, like, what the fuck? What
the fuck just happened.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
But it's like like the beginning of the film is
very much setting you up for a Land of the
Dead scenario, right, Like, it's, hey, we all live in
our little place, but we have to run out and
steal stuff from the infected's area every now and again,
and once in a while they're going to follow us
home and then but we piss him off, and then
they eventually come and try to attack our village. That's

(59:36):
what they're setting up. And then they're just like, yeah, no,
we're abandoning that storyline.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Yeah, And one of the things I do have to
ask is the whole thing with the Alphas that's new?
That is new?

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Right?

Speaker 5 (59:50):
I was like, I don't remember this at all.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Well, the thing with the Alphas is new, and it's
referenced in this like there's a line of dialog. I
can't remember the exact line of dialogue where they're like, yeah,
these kind of evolved because the idea is that the
effected have been it's almost it's I don't know, almost
like an im legend situation. I guess where they're like

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they have their own sort of a society going on
where it's not like they don't like live in houses
and have jobs or anything, but there's just these packs
of them that kind of live together figure out how
to survive.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
I did like it because the interesting thing is the
idea of England being quarantined like that. This isn't actually
the first like sci fi horror that has had that
exact premise, which is funny because like Doomsday was almost
the exact same setup, right, But yeah, yeah, I don't

(01:00:50):
hard to explain, but it's just strange because they're cut
off and it's this idea of they've been kind of
left to thin for themselves and so they've kind of
had another society's lost track of what's going on, and
you kind of get used to that, and then you're
introduced to the character that's from the outside and they

(01:01:12):
keep trying to talk about normal everyday stuff and the kids.
I don't know what you're talking about that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yeah, So, Brian, do you care if we spoil this
or oh I don't care, I'm not gonna watch it. Yeah, yeah,
you've said you had no interest. But there's a like
a Swedish soldier who was part of the quarantine patrol
that like circles the island and his boat sinks and
he ends up on the island and he meets up
with our main characters, and he's like trying to explain
to them what a smartphone is. But they've been on

(01:01:39):
the island completely cut off from society since two thousand
and two. They don't know anything, Like they can't figure
out how he talks. He shows him a picture of
his girlfriend and she has like I don't know what
those lips are called that chicks get like where they
get the injections. They're like disgusted by it. They can't
understand why, and we want to look that way. It's
all really funny.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
They're just like, Okay, he's like, oh, I know what
that is. My cousin has allergies. She got done on
the lip by a bee one time and her lips
well up like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
It's funny, but it's yeah, But I mean I liked
all that. I thought that was good, like sort of
character development for the kid and the mom. And then
when that character had served his purpose, he had his
head ripped off by an alpha infected guy, which was
also pretty cool, Like, yeah, so I guess like the plot,

(01:02:38):
like Brian, if you want to hear about it, is like,
so they're in They're living in this little thing that
the dad is teaching the kid how to go out
into the world and kill infected guys as well as
scavenge for supplies. The kid finds out there's a doctor
living out there and his mom's sick, so he's going
to take his mom on this cross country journey to

(01:02:59):
get to the doctor. Guy, I'll forget better. That's sort
of your main plot of the movie, But I don't
know it's I don't say it's very non traditional and
it's storytelling technique because there's the set up, you don't
know where it's going, and then when the when he
finally takes the mom and leaves, you're not going to
expect what comes next. You're not going to expect the

(01:03:22):
birthing scene that ends up being a major part of
this film. We somehow forgot to mention the baby in
our plot description so far.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
Now, yeah, that might be a little spoiler.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I guess, yeah, yeah, I don't like, it's hard to
discuss this movie without spoilers because everything is so unexpected.

Speaker 5 (01:03:43):
Right, Yeah, everything that happens is a new thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Yeah, but I want to talk about the baby for minutes.
I've had this discussion with some other people. So the
way I took it, and this is all spoilery stuff
for anybody who's listening, and the way I took it
is that the infected, which are humans who are infected
with this rage virus, are still breeding and that's why

(01:04:09):
they still exist twenty eight years later, and why they
didn't all just starve to death. And they are The
babies are born normal, but somehow become infected, likely by
feeding off the mother's milk or whatever. You know, Zada,
you took it because other people are arguing that it's
just the woman who was pregnant and then got infected.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
Well, no, because I think so you know the doctors.
It talks about the miracle of the placenta, which is
like a actual medical thing that happens, so you can
have a parent that is infected with certain types of
diseases and then they actually, yeah, the baby isn't infected,

(01:04:53):
although they did make it kind of gross and bloody,
which part of the issue is is when that happens,
a lot of the time the child does get infected
while being birthed. Because of the blood.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Yeah, in this case they did. I mean, it's movie science,
but they do wash the baby off immediately, so then
none of the blood would have got into the baby's
eyes or mouth, and therefore it would not have gotten infected.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Sure, sure, but I think I think what they're suggesting
is that maybe, like if things could possibly right themselves eventually.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Because what's interesting is in I don't know, like when
the last time you watched twenty eight weeks later is,
but in that there is a whole subplot of a
character who is immune but is a carrier of the
disease but doesn't show the symptoms, and when that character's
killed off, like much of the plot is trying to

(01:05:50):
get her kids to scientists who can then draw their
blood and study them and see if they can build
some sort of antidote. And the implication house this film
exists is that it didn't work. But we don't really
have an answer to that at the end of the
other one, So I don't think they would be doing
the same sort of thing here. But I don't, like,

(01:06:10):
I don't know what you do with the idea that
the babies are being born not infected, so you have
to like send people in every time an infected woman
gives birth and try to grab the baby before the
before they infect it. I don't know how you pull
that on.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
Yeah, see, I was going to say that would probably
be my assumption is that the mother would then go
rage mode and kill that baby or infect that baby.
I guess. The weird thing about the Rage zombies is
they don't exactly try to kill you. They try to
infect you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
It's not really clear what their goals are. I don't
think they really have a plan. But what we do
know is they don't go after each other. That's been
true since the first film. Yeah, they can hang out
in a group and not fight amongst themselves.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
Yeah, it's like they attack and then but the second
because they also there's the crazy science of the rage
virus in this movie that very literally, like a blood
drop touches you and then you are just instantly fully
infected and you have all the symptoms of the disease immediately.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Next we saw that back in like the first film. Again,
I rewatched all this week so I can comment really specific,
but like there's one where like a drop of blood
from a dead body lands on a guy's face and
gets in his eyeball and he's infected within seconds. Right,
So it's yeah, so then you can understand any baby
being born would get infected pretty quickly. It was being

(01:07:38):
like raised by infected people.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
Yeah, yeah, the whole Like I said, it's a I
don't know, it's it's strange. I'm I think maybe because
you know, the plan is that they're wanting to do
a trilogy, right to kind of round out this story.
I don't know, and I my guess would be that's

(01:08:03):
the going to be one of the two major plots.
If that's what's gonna happen, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
See, Yeah, I don't know. It's hard to I'm not
going to try to predict anymore based on this film.
I'm never going to try to predict anything in this
series again, right, But it's hard. It's hard to say
where they could go with it. One would assume that
that baby is going to be important in future. Whether
that could be the infected trying to get their baby

(01:08:30):
back and storming the village, whether that could be them
using that baby to create immunity, whether that could be
them you know, figuring out that there's a way to
write this by letting the like taking the infected baby
or or something. I don't know. There's so many ways
they could go.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot. Again, especially the end of
this movie, it goes so fucking far off the rails.
Now I'm like, I don't know, like your fucking guesses
because I don't know it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Yeah, because it's so weird too, because then we go
through all that stuff the baby and we're like, okay,
so there's like it's like this hopeful message of this baby.
And then the kid takes his mom to the doctor,
who again were in spoiler territory. Kid finally gets his
mom across England to a doctor who looks at her

(01:09:20):
for five minutes and goes, yeah, there's no saving her
and drugs the kid so he will be calm. Well
this is going on, And then euthanizes his mom in
front of him.

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
And then ethanizes his mom and then turns her into bones.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Yeah, and then turns her into bones and brings her
skull to her twelve year old son and is like,
since it's your mom, you get to decide where on
my monument of skulls the skull goes, and proceeding to
have him climb a tower of skulls so his mom's
skull gets to be on the top and see the sunrise.

(01:09:58):
And I'm like, that's not a particular happy ending to
the film. In a lot of ways, a small child
watching his mom die and be turned into art is
not really seen as uplifting.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
Yeah, it was cool though.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
I liked it. I liked the twist of Hey, you
went through all this effort, got your mom there, and
there's just nothing we can do for It's not anyone's fault,
Like it's just the thing that happened, you know. I
enjoyed that element of the story, But I'm like, I
don't again, how the fuck am I supposed to predict

(01:10:36):
anything that's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
Yeah, it's like it's just so magic crazy. Yeah, once again, Brian,
I know you're not playing it on getting involved in this,
but no, I just highly recommend you reconsider.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Like if if one of the complaints that people have
with modern films is that there's not a lot of
like unique or different original stories going on. This film
nails all those categories. That's not to say that I
think anybody needs to see it if they don't want to,
but you know. That is something I hear a lot,
as all films are the same nowadays. Okay, well not

(01:11:18):
this one.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
Yeah, nope.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
So the ninja's at the end.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
The the the fucking Sweedish ninja cult.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Like, yeah, the sweetest Christian ninja cult. We do? You
know the one guy is the son of a pastor.
I don't know, Sweet god, Sweet God. It's a like
it is such a weird little twist, such a tonal shift.
I'm hoping that that tonal shift is not indicative of

(01:11:54):
the next film. I don't want to see a whole
film of that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
Oh, I think it's I think what they're setting up
is that it's gonna be much darker because Jimmy. They
they set up Jimmy earlier in the film a couple
of times in the background, right, and it's pretty obvious
that it's not good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
He's an evil cult leader. Yeah yeah, And so you're
gonna have the kid go back to their compound or
whatever and eventually realize that he's he's not the happy
tell Atubby loving guy that he puts out there. A
lot of Tellotubby's references in this movie, more than I expected.

Speaker 5 (01:12:39):
Fucking, fucking ninjas Man where them ninjas come from?

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Well, I don't how do they get those teletubby colored
track suits to be so clean at the end of
the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
Everything about it, I swear to God, I'm not a
hundred sure. I need to watch it again. I think
one of those cult members with Daniel Radcliffe what like
for a split second. It's hard to tell because he's
wearing a wig and stuff, but goddamn it, it sure

(01:13:15):
fucking looks like him.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
I want to tell you you're crazy, except that the
doctor covered in iodine scraping flesh off human skulls was
Ray Fines, So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
Maybe remember you remember when Ray Fines is in this movie?

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Fuck my favorite performance of his career. I think I
can't think of anything better.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
I agree, there is nothing better.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
He's really good, Like, his performance is genuinely excellent. The
character is super interesting. It's just a little bit surprising
to get like a mainstream actor doing those sorts of things.

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
Yeah, is it the same director who directed the original parts.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Of the Yeah, the original for the first one, not
the second one. It's Danny Boyle, who's a very well
known director. I think you want you think he's an
Oscar Winner kind of thing. And it's the original writer
as well. So it's Alic Scarland and Danny Boyle, who
are both very talented people, coming back together for the

(01:14:23):
first time. I think the last time they worked together
was like O seven, I know, falling Out.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
I think supposedly the next movie is allotted to come
out in January. Yeah, and it's called twenty eight years Later,
The Bone Temple, right, so we're going straight back into
the weird, I'm guessing.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Yeah, And it's from the director of the Candy Man
remake sequel that came out a couple of years ago.
So we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
Okay, I was I did like that, so yeah, me too.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
So we'll see. I mean, it's kind of like, I
don't know, we'll see what happens. It's such a weird like,
I don't I can't even remotely predict where this series
is headed now, having like again, having watched all three
in the last week, I'm a big fan of the series.
They all are their own unique movie and they're all
they all have something to offer. Did you remember the

(01:15:21):
second one at all? It's much more action oriented. It's
like Jeremy Renner as an American sniper trying to help
children escape England before it's bombed kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
It's one of those things, see I do not, but
I so the original twenty eight Days Later. I maybe
unfairly hated that movie, and mostly because it was sold
as a zombie movie.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Yeah, I agree, And.

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
In addition to that, it's kind of the movie that
made fast Zombies a thing and ruined his zombie genre
for a very long time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
It's not yeah, I don't. Twenty eight Days Later is
one of those movies that came out and was so
unique that the industry didn't know how to handle it,
so they started calling it a zombie movie, and then
people were like, oh, fast zombies. And then that's when
you got the Dawn of the Dead remake and a
bunch of other things that came out that were just
not particularly good and kind of dragged the zombie film

(01:16:21):
sub genre in the wrong direction. And it's not fair
to that film because it was never a zombie movie.
That's not what it was. It was this uniquely created
villain for that movie that just didn't fit into a
neat category, and so they just called it that because
it was post apocalyptic. They're like, oh, zombies are post apocalyptic.

(01:16:43):
It is too right. But yeah, I think the movie.
A lot of people don't like it because of what
happened as a result of it, But that's not that
film's fault. The film itself.

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
Directly, I do need to go I'll go back and
rewatch it because it's also I mean, it stars Killian Murphy. Yeah,
killing Murphy I really like. I mean, he's a fantastic actor.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
So it was, and it's it's it's it's an extremely
well made film. It takes itself very seriously, and it
does have a couple of elements of it that are
kind of like horror movie action movie logic that go
on where you're like, Okay, I'm not sure why this
guy can fight these soldiers. He doesn't seem qualified. But
it's working. It's fine in the context of the film,

(01:17:29):
and you get again a lot of good character moments
in that one as well. It slows itself down and
you spend time with the people and on their sort
of road trip that they go on in that movie.
So this movie in that in this in that sense,
this sequel kind of mirrors that one in the sense
of like a road trip in the middle of it,
where you get these characters to go from one place
to another, and that's when you get to spend time

(01:17:50):
with them and get to know them. Then the middle
film is just it's action, NonStop the whole movie. But
it's still good. It's it's still a good film. It's
just a little bit different, and it does bring in
the Americans to be the bad guys, which is realistic
and fair so accurate.

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
Accurate's the term.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Yeah, it's it's like like a major plot in that
is when something goes wrong, we realize the Americans don't
value human life, and you're like, yeah, that's correct, that's ye.
Drug You're like, like, Jeremy Renner plays like the hero
of the movie because he's a sniper who doesn't want

(01:18:30):
to just literally kill everybody that's there. That's that's what
makes him the good guy. So I just don't kill
all of the people. Oh, it's a pretty low bar
except for yourself there, guys. I did think it was
fun how this movie, because that movie ends with the
implication of the disease spreading to France, which is obviously

(01:18:51):
then it would get all of our mains mainland Europe
and this movie just in the background, we're like, yeah,
they just they just knew Paris problem solved. That's how
they got rid of that. They just just killed millions
and millions of French people. Then now we just go
back to isolating England.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
Yeah, they definitely this one definitely had that a pretty
standard message of kind of that the the cure's worse
than the disease sometimes that sure, you're trying to stop
these crazy rage monsters, but you're doing it by being

(01:19:28):
pieces of shit.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Well, there is that thing where so like one of
the one of the things that's interesting about the film
is the dad's teaching the kid how to kill the infected, right,
He's teaching them to use the bone and arrow and
where to shoot them so they'll die and stuff. And
the kid goes out there and he happily shoots the
first one because it's one of those slow, bloated ones
that's just crawling around. Then they find one that's like

(01:19:55):
tied up and not a threat to them, and the
dad's like, yeah, just kill it. And he's like and
the dad said something like when the virus destroys their
brain and therefore they don't have a soul, so they're
not you can just kill them whatever you want. And
I think then when the kid sees a baby born
and the baby's not a rage monster, it sort of
raises that question of like, should we be just like

(01:20:17):
going into the woods and randomly killing these things? And
you know, is it kind of our fault that they
come and kill us? If we're like we just left
them alone, they'd be alone in their woods. And I
don't think the film really answers the question of, like,
what would happen if you just left them alone?

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
Right? Yeah, I don't know. Like I said, vibe, I
don't exactly have I'm still what do you think? Is
this a good movie? Is the question. I thought it
was enjoyable, it was fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
I think it's good. I think it's it bucks expectations,
which is going to piss people off a little bit.
We know that people get upset when a film isn't
what they were expecting it to be. But I think
it's an extremely well made film. It is part of
the modern trend of sort of art housey horror, which
I'm a fan of. Not everyone's going to be, but

(01:21:12):
it's well done from that perspective. We get like cool visuals.
We have an interesting story if it's not it's not
a particularly linear storyline, but it does flow and it
does make sense, and I think it's good. Lots of
good performances in it. The kid is really good. He's

(01:21:33):
did either you watch Adolescence, the Netflix TV show. No,
he's the kid from that, and he's really good in that,
and he's really good in this as well. This is
a little bit less of a challenging role, so it's
not surprising that he's good in it. But yeah, he's good.
And the stuff with him, like trying to save his
mom and the conflict with the dad who has sort

(01:21:56):
of given up on the mom, and there's a sort
of like this subtle hint throughout it all of like
the dad generation has like given up on the fucking world,
and he's like so like when the mom's home like
sick in bed, the dad's like sleeping with another chick,
and the dad's teaching the kid Like yeah, once in
a while, we just sneak out of the village, find

(01:22:16):
some infected people, just kill him for the sake of
killing him. It doesn't serve any real purpose. We're just
doing it and the kid is sort of developing that
sense of hope, Like he's the one that wants to
try to save the mom. He's the one that saves
the baby. He's the one that doesn't want to just
randomly kill the infected, you know, he's the one that
doesn't even give up even the like the doctor character.

(01:22:39):
Everyone knows he's out there, but nobody wants to talk
to him because they think he's crazy. The kid's the
one that's willing to approach him and willing to get
to know him rather than just write him off. So
that kid is sort of representing a hopeful future in
this post apocalyptic world, which is interesting and you know,
depending on where this tree ology goes, could be an

(01:23:02):
interesting way, like a long way to get to a
happy ending watching this kid suffer through a couple of
more films just to get to something better. But we'll see.

Speaker 5 (01:23:14):
So had you watch it?

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
That's it?

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
I only watched the three, Like, those are the three
movies I watched this week. So, Brian, since you hated
everything we just talked about because you have no interest.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
I didn't hate it. I was scrolling through Facebook.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
What did you watch this week?

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
I did go to the theater. I watched Ballerina, the
John Wick spin off. Oh yeah, yeah, it's not great.
Oh really yeah, which is unfortunate since I really liked
the John Wick movies. I was kind of hoping that,
you know, I feel I really liked sort of the

(01:23:53):
weird society world that they've set up in the john
Wick films, So seeing that expanded a little bit more
kind of on board for the problem I found is
they cram so much into this movie, Like in the
first John Wick movie, we don't really get his backstory
all that much. Like it literally is you show up,

(01:24:15):
you kill this guy's dog, you steal his car, and
then when you tell people, oh yeah, that John Wick guy,
everybody's like, what the fuck did you do? And that's
like enough of a backstory just to know that he's
a fucking badass and you're about to die. So they
give like all this flashback stuff to this character as
a little girl, and then her dad is killed and

(01:24:36):
she's brought into this ballerina thing, and so then we
have to see her training for that, and then you
know her being like, oh, I want to work on
this side of it, and then pulling her into that.
So then we have to see her going her first
mission and then how that turns out, and then you know,
it's just all this like origin stuff that they have

(01:24:58):
to put in this movie, and it's like, all right,
I'm already sort of over this, and then you just
sort of don't care about what's happening by the end
of the movie. And then I was looking stuff up
and found out that sort of the guy that's like
the steward of John Wick, who's I think directed all

(01:25:18):
but the first one, but he was like, you know,
sort of the creator of the franchise, had to go
back and reshoot like two thirds of the movie because
the original director was Lynn Wiseman, who did like the
Underworld movies, and so apparently he hated a majority of

(01:25:39):
the stuff they shot. So then he had to go
back and film a bunch of stuff and they did
a bunch of reshoots, and this movie they've been working
on for like four years apparently, and it's obvious because
I feel like the movie's just kind of a mess
and all over the place. And the big thing about
the John Wick movies is like the stunts and like
the stunt work and all that kind of stuff towards

(01:25:59):
like about forty five minutes in, there is a shot
that is just so straight up CGI that I was
just like, well, that looks like garbage and I'm just
like that and it's literally like an SUV running into
a car and I'm like that, Like, Call of Duty

(01:26:20):
games look better than that, CGI, So why the fuck
was that in this movie? So it was just I
don't know, it was kind of a mess and all
over the place, story beats that don't make no sense.
And it might be because they had to change a
bunch of shit when they reshot it. I don't know,
but a lot of it and I was just like, man,
this movie is not great. So I was kind of disappointed.

(01:26:46):
Let's see the other thing I watched as I watched
the two part documentary pee Wee as Himself all about
pee Wee Herman. Yeah, and that was fascinating to watch.
I had a really good time watching it. It's interesting
to watch because a lot of it was about him
sort of what his life was like outside of Peewee,

(01:27:07):
Like the first part of it goes all the way
up to kind of right before he gets Pewey's playhouse,
so you learn about him going to school and how
he wanted to be a performer and stuff, and really
his parents were really encouraging of stuff like that, but
he went to like an art school and got really

(01:27:27):
into performance art and stuff like that, which when all
of that kind of comes around and they sort of
talk about that, I'm like, Oh, that actually kind of
makes a lot of sense for how he sort of
lived as the Pewee persona for such a long time
yea in the eighties, and so I'm like, oh, yeah,

(01:27:49):
he spun this off for Peewee to be like a
real person pretty much, and he didn't really live in
the public eye as Paul Rubens at all. So like
a lot of that from his early life. I'm like,
that makes a lot of sense. They do, uh, And
you know, Paul Rubins is in this pretty fair amount.

(01:28:10):
Apparently they were shooting this over like four years or
something before he passed away, but he apparently recorded like
forty forty hours of interviews for this documentary and there
was like some weird back and forth and then the
director kind of butt heads over sort of what the
documentary is supposed to be, Like he wants to be

(01:28:31):
more involved and the directors like, well, but that's not
really how this works. Like he calls them up and
he's like, well, what if you have people come in
and do sit down interviews? But then like I come
in at the end and ask them my own questions
and the director's like, no, like we're not doing that,
Like that's completely not how this works. And so there's

(01:28:52):
some back and forth and apparently they got into an
argument at some point, but the film doesn't end up
getting finished. But it is just kind of interesting to
hear sort of behind the behind the curtain of how
everything worked and how he came up with the character
and sort of the evolution of the character and stuff
like that. And I think the big news out of

(01:29:14):
it was that he reveals that he's gay throughout in
the documentary, which part of me I was like, oh, man,
that's so sad that he didn't live like his authentic
self and stuff. And then you know, he talks about
how he felt like he had to because he wouldn't
have a career, and I was like, well, that's bullshit.

(01:29:35):
But then I started to think about it, and I'm like, well,
in the eighties, when I was like, you know, seven,
and I heard this guy was gay in real life,
I probably would have been like, oh gross, because unfortunately
that's yeah, just the world I grew up in, you know,
twenty twenty five, Brian, and it's like, oh no, he
should have just been out and been happy. But apparently

(01:29:55):
he had a bunch of like relationships that just you know,
he was very secretive about and only super close friends
knew about it and stuff. But he seems like he
would have been a fucking nightmare to have to deal
with on a daily as a performer, because Jesus Christ.
He even talks about all the stuff that, like, so

(01:30:16):
the first Pewe movie came out and stuff, and he
apparently was very salty that Tim Burton was getting all
this praise for the movie and he wasn't getting more praise.
And he points out, like, my name's in the movie
as a writing credit, but it's under Paul Rubins, and
nobody knows who Paul Rubins is. So then he was
kind of pissed off about it that he wasn't getting

(01:30:39):
more credit for the movie, which is why when they
did Peewee's Big Top Peewee, he tim Burton did not
come back, and he found a director that he could
sort of more boss around so he could sort of
shadow direct the movie. That's why Big Top Peewee was
not nearly as good as the other one. That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
It's weird when you get into guys like that too,
because it's always like you want they're kind of lovable characters.
Then you're like, this tends to be a bit of
a dark side to it as well.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
Yeah, yeah, And I mean the sort of talked about
him and Phil Hartman had a falling out, and Peewee's
perspective was like, well, no, we worked really close together,
and then he got SNL and he went and did
that and it was really good for him. But then
the other side is sort of like, no, Phil Hartman
was kind of pissed because he was directly involved with

(01:31:34):
like the writing of a lot of the groundling stuff
they did on the stage, and then he was involved
with the movie and stuff, and he felt he pretty
much was not properly financially compensated for it and or
given any credit for it, which is why he kind

(01:31:55):
of walked away and then ended up on SNL and
came super famous. Way so, and they show like interviews
with Phil Hartman on like Howard Stern. They're talking about it,
and he's like, yeah, yeah, we kind of had a big,
big blow up about it because I felt I deserved
more of this stuff and I didn't get it, and
I kind of left, and you know, it is what

(01:32:17):
it is. So it's interesting they do sort of don't
shy away from a lot of stuff. They do talk
about the theater stuff, and Paul Rubins is pretty open
about it, and he's still stands by that he yes,
he was in the theater, Yes he was watching Horn,
but he did not expose himself and whatever else, and

(01:32:39):
they go over like all the reasons all this stuff happened.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Sort of still stand by the fact that if you're
in a porn.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
Theater totally like I am one hundred percent of never
even as a kid, I was like, well, he's on
a porn theater. Of course. I think it's more just
people were shocked by his appearance at that point because
he had filmed like two or three seasons like backed back,
and so the show was still like going while he

(01:33:07):
was sort of done with it and then let his
hair and stuff go on, and then he does go
into the weird blip that I don't know if you
guys remember there was like a small blip where he
was being investigated for child born ye, and then sort
of nothing came of it. And he's like they talk

(01:33:28):
about it and the thing, and a lot of it
was because the guy that accused him was the same
guy that sued or accused Jeffrey Jones of all of
his stuff, which did turn out to be true, but
like he hung out with Jeffrey Jones, they did not.
He's like, I didn't even know he was in the whatever.

(01:33:52):
And so when they checked his house because this guy
made some claims he used to collect like fifties like
gay erotica stuff, right, which was was sort of presented
in like bodybuilder magazines and shit like back then they

(01:34:15):
were like, no, it's a bodybuilding magazine. It's just all
these dudes are naked, you know whatever bodybuild, Yeah, exactly exactly.
So he collected he had, like, you know a ton
of this stuff. And so this guy claimed, you know
that he had some questionable stuff. They you know, righted
this house and went through everything, and there was only

(01:34:36):
like one picture that apparently they were hung up on,
like this guy looks way too young, and apparently they
were able to sort of backtrack and get confirmation that
the kid was of age when the picture was taken.
So it was like that one thing that they were
hung up.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
On because I remember it being something like, yeah, it
was part of his like collection that they were trying
to argue was illegal. And he's like, it was one
of those like I bought like a collection type deal,
and I don't know how. You know, again, if if
you're buying a magazine, you're kind of assuming it's legal.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
Yeah, And then yeah, it turned out there was nothing,
but you know, they still were trying to figure out
waste to pin stuff on him, so they charged them
on the very last day, like the statute or limitations
was about to run out, and the district attorney, who
had just got voted into office charged them with like

(01:35:33):
obscenity or something. Yeah, and he points out he's like,
when you're sort of an odd person, as Paul Rubins
was and the peewee persona, and he'd had the stuff
with the theater before, He's like, as soon as the
the reception of that person is again brought into the

(01:35:55):
light of him being odd and weird, and then you
throw the the word pedophile in that sentence. It automatically,
like it's like an automatic thing, like there's no going
back from that, even if there's no yeah, nothing that's proven,
like that's already been associated, so boom. So he just

(01:36:16):
went ahead and paid like a fine for the obscenity charge,
which was like a misdemeanor, rather than trying to drag
this all out in court and stuff, which in my opinion,
he probably maybe should have tried to vinicate himself a
little bit more, but he was just trying to like,
you know, it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
Sounds like the story is such this like weird convergence
of all these like weird things where it's like people
equating Gainess with pedophilia the way that they sometimes still do,
but very.

Speaker 5 (01:36:44):
Common way they still do constantly, but.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
Not as much as they used to, not at least
not as openly. But it's also mixed in with that
weird eighties thing where we believed people's characters from TV.
It's how comes we got away with this shit was
because we all just thought he was mister Cosby, you
know what I mean, Like we all thought of him
as as that nice family man, even though there was
no real reason to believe that other than that's a

(01:37:09):
character he played on TV. And that's the same thing
with like Pee Wee's like people are shocked by his
appearance and it's you mean, he's out of character, Like
that's it, you know what I mean, Like why why
would he still look like that if he's no longer
doing the show. That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
But yeah, so yeah, so they I mean, it was
just it was interesting to find out all that because
I because I remembered that, like, oh yeah, I remember
when this thing happened, and then it just was like
a blip and then it just kind of went away.
And then Paul Rubins wasn't really like around much after
that and then you know, and the documentary talks about
his father had gotten real sick and he had basically

(01:37:46):
moved down to Florida with his family just to kind
of spend time with his dad for the last couple
of years of his life and stuff kind of just
walked away from everything. But yeah, I mean, there's there's
interesting but like it's a really fascinating documentary. And Pee
Hermon was like a big part of my life growing up.
I know, Doug, I think when we did Peeby's a

(01:38:07):
big adventure. You said, that it wasn't really part of
your no, it was growing up. So yeah, it was
just really interesting. And the thing I didn't know because
they talked to David Arquette, because he became really good
friends with them after they worked on Buffy and stuff.
He said like when the petit, when the child born
thing came up, He's like, no, I just was straight

(01:38:28):
up with them, like what the fuck is going on,
and like, you know, in front of them about it.
And he was straight up. And you know, he ended
up going and staying with Courtney Cox and David Arkette
for a while just because, you know, swarms of reporters
were camped outside of his house.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
Yeah, somehow, the least surprising of all of this is
that he was friends with David ar Keetts.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
Oh totally.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Like when you said that, I'm like, I didn't know that,
but I'm not surprised.

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
That makes complete sense. But apparently the thing I did
know is that when he went and worked on Buffy
after the whole theater incident, he specifically told the director
in the makeup person, make me look as close to
my mugshot as you possibly can.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
That's fair, just.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
To give it that weird off putting look. So I
just found it super interesting that he like sort of
almost leaned into that for that role. So yeah, it's
worth checking out if you were all interested in sort
of the whole Peewe phenomenon, how it got started, all

(01:39:38):
that stuff. It's really interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
And yeah, I'm only interested when the porn theater gets involved.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
That's fair. That's all Part two, let's see. And the
last thing I saw AMC was having another one of
those like screen Unseen deals where you just you show up,
they don't tell you what the movie is, something that's
going to be coming out in the next couple of weeks.
It's usually some sort of more like lower budget indie

(01:40:07):
type stuff, which is why I kind of stopped going
to them, because it's usually shit that I don't really
care about, the horror ones which are labeled scream unseen.
Sometimes I still go to those because some of those
indie movies are still interesting to watch. But a friend
of mine contacted me and he's like, hey, I think
we broke the code for what this movie is going

(01:40:29):
to be. You should come with us, and they told me,
and I'm like, well, I'm not that interested, but I'll
go hang out with you guys and watch it. So
why not? So it turns out the movie was the
new Jurassic Park movie, like a week and a half
before it's gonna be in theaters, and I had like

(01:40:49):
zero interests, really like I don't really care about a
new Jurassic Park movie at this point. But you know,
a couple of friends wanted to go and it's amc
which are basically free movies for me because I have
the A list thing. So I was like, ah, sure,
why not? So I went watched it and uh, yeah,
like the movies, Okay, it's got dinosaurs in it attacking people.

(01:41:12):
It's there's maybe one or for the last movie.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
I'm actually really reassured to hear that there's dinosaurs attacking
people in this movie. There's no giant fucking bugs that
are the real villains.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
No, was the giant bugs in the last one. I
didn't even see the last one.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Yeah, fuck fucking yeah, gross stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
There was a couple of scenes that I thought were
actually pretty tense. Maybe it's just because I have a
weird thought. I don't want to say fear, because it's
never a situation i've been in, but like a thought
of being out in the middle of the ocean and
some giant creature attacks the very small boat you're on, Like,

(01:41:55):
what the fuck are you gonna do? After that?

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
I wonder where that fear could come from.

Speaker 4 (01:42:00):
Right, some primal thing in the back of my hand.
But you know, it's a couple of tense scenes about
all that kind of stuff, and then you know whatever,
Like they have to go purposefully to this island that
they house some of the weird mutation dinosaurs on to
extract some DNA and they have to do one that's

(01:42:20):
in a dinosaur that's in the water, dinosaur that's on land,
and a dinosaur that flies why plot reasons, there's some
weird stuff where they established that this is Scarlett Johansson's
like the main character. This is her first quote unquote
mission that she's hired to go on since one that
went bad and one of her teammates got killed. They

(01:42:43):
mentioned that in like a throwaway line, and that never
comes into play ever again throughout the movie, and I'm like,
why was that even brought up?

Speaker 3 (01:42:51):
Then probably good then get dropped.

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
I mean maybe, I guess, But they're trying to establish
like all this.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
Just because it sounds like when they copied and pasted
the script from the meg They forgot to leave that
part out. They did, you know, find Jason State to
replace with Scarlett Johnson.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
And then the what's his name? The guy is supposed
to be playing Blade in the new movie That's Never
Gonna happen. Yeah, he's in it, and his character lost
his kid died from illness of some sort.

Speaker 5 (01:43:32):
He got the dinosaur plague from these dinosaur scientists.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
Well, him and Scarlett Johansson know each other, but I
haven't seen each other in a while, and so she's like,
did you and your wife work stuff out? And he's like, no,
After we lost our kid, we just couldn't stand to
look at each other anymore, so we didn't. So then
they tried to play up that he's got the soft
spot because there is a kid in the movie, of course,
and so he's going to do anything to protect this kid.
But it's just like, you could just do that just

(01:44:00):
because it's a kid, Like, you don't need this weird
backstory that this is the only thing it plays into
is to have him try to be heroic to save
this character who's in danger at some point, and it's
just like, all right, whatever, So that kind of stuff
is dumb otherwise, like sure, dinosaur action, why not? And

(01:44:21):
for like the third time in the franchise, of course,
the big villain dinosaur is one that they genetically manipulated
to be more ferocious?

Speaker 5 (01:44:31):
Why?

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
Bigger than everything else?

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Just dinosaurs for fuck's sake.

Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
So I'm just like, why is this? Like, why do
they keep reusing this trope? I don't understand? Uh? So
I determined the only Jurassic Park movies I enjoy are
the ones where the park falls into chaos, where like
the first one the park wasn't even open, but you know,
everything goes crazy whatever. And then Jurassic World, which I

(01:45:01):
also enjoyed, the park is open and everything goes wrong
and you know, all is in a chaos. Those are
the only two Jurassic Park movies I think I've liked
out of the entire franchise, I don't all the rest
of them. I think we have to go back to
the island where dinosaurs are the things.

Speaker 5 (01:45:19):
That they're really missing.

Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
Is Newman also true?

Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
I just thought I wish they'd go back to make
like an actual sequel Jurassic Park. That's what I'd like
to see. But I think they're gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:45:32):
So yeah, so yeah, like whatever, I'm sure it'll make
like a billion dollars because people forget that the last
one was not good. I'll come back and then what.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
That was the most accurate description of the movie going
public I've ever heard in my life. People will just
forget that the last one wasn't good and go see
this because they know the name, and we go fuck up.

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
My girlfriend was excited, nice center the message, and it
wasn't good, But if you want to go see it again, like,
I'll go see it with you. But she's like, you
didn't even like it. I'm like, yeah, but you know,
if you want to go, I'll still go.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Of all the things that a girlfriend can make you do,
go to a movie is the easiest one.

Speaker 4 (01:46:17):
Sit in the theater and eat popcorn. I mean there's
worst stuff that we could I could be forced to do.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
What kind of popcorn bucket did you get for this movie?

Speaker 4 (01:46:25):
Oh? I did not. I did not.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
Are you sure? Yeah, you're saving it for when you
go back. Nope, you ended up seeing this movie twice
in theaters that you don't like and buying a popcorn bucket?

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
Nope, I only owned two popcorn two of the like
designer popcorn buckets, and it's one of the Deadpool headpool
buckets and the monkey bucket and that is.

Speaker 5 (01:46:48):
That and the in the Dune butthole worm.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
I don't know that one. The galactous one, I was.
I was like, oh, fuck, that look's cool, and then
like it's gonna be eighty bucks, and I'm like, oh,
thank god, that's gonna keep me from buying it. Eighty
dollars yep. So I'm just glad.

Speaker 5 (01:47:09):
I'm just like, mar, thank you for chill the fuck out.

Speaker 4 (01:47:12):
Thank you for pricing me out of this one, because
I didn't want to buy it, but it looked really cool.
Galactus's head and his eyes light up. Do not need it,
especially for eight.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
Here's a brief glimpse of some of the truly fine
pictures we scheduled in the near future.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Talking picking these earlier with all his meatballs to talk about,
got me thinking about aliens landing on Earth. So Invaders
from Mars and Night Beast, which are both movies about
aliens landing in small towns.

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
Which Invaders from Mars is it like eighty six? Okay?
So the remake by Toby Hooper.

Speaker 3 (01:47:53):
Yes, all right, I think it's Toby Hooper, but I'm
not sure. I've never seen it. I've never seen either
of these he did remake, so I don't think i've
seen the original either, from like.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
The fifties, I've never I've seen part of the remake,
but I never saw the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
I don't think it seems like it's a body snatchers
type thing. Yeah, and then night Beast is more just
alien lands and starts eating people, so we get.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
You know, yeah, it can't be bad.

Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
Sounds pretty good. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:48:31):
I don't know. Sometimes we think stuff is gonna be good.

Speaker 5 (01:48:36):
Listen when his Toby Hooper ever led us Astray. Wow,
other than the Time.

Speaker 4 (01:48:46):
Almost any movie except for Texas, Jainsaw, Massacre, and Poltergeist.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
Yeah. Well his Toolbox Murder's remake is pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:48:56):
Yeah, I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
It wasn't great. It was just pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
Yeah, I'm seeing it, but I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
It's then there you go. It was a remake. So
he's good at remakes, that's what we know.

Speaker 4 (01:49:08):
Yeah, so maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
He's so we know he's good at remakes, and he
made Texas chance on Masacre, which the remake of that
was pretty good, So he's good at making films that
are gonna be remakes.

Speaker 4 (01:49:24):
I was excited to watch a Life Force because I
had heard so much about it. Yeah, and I watched it,
and like, this movie is dog shit Other than having
a pretty hot naked lady walk around the entire movie naked.

Speaker 3 (01:49:37):
Yeah, the movie was slow.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
I don't think I hated it, but I don't think
I liked it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:42):
Yeah, So like maybe it's one of those that you
had to watch growing up, like you had to rerun
it from the video store. Yeah, just have that excitement
that there's a naked woman on screen in the entire movie.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
Well that's I mean, that's the thing is Like, like
you said that about the one of the the movie,
I already forget what it's called with the rafting in it. Yeah,
Like when when you were talking about the boobs and that,
and I'm like, yeah, I guess maybe I would have
cared if I'd watched this in the eighties, like about
the boobs, like because that's the only way you could
see them. But now there's so many options. I could

(01:50:17):
even try being nice to an actual woman and seeing
him that way.

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
But you know that's kind of though.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Yeah, but you know, I think that is and that's
even meat balls. We could say the same thing about that,
but you know it benefited from the time and when
it was released.

Speaker 4 (01:50:35):
Was there even any boobs and balls that I miss them?

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
I don't think. So there's girls and bikinis. It's the
one guy's paddling the canoe. Spaz is paddling the canoe
and his partner is like the hot blonde girl and
then she lays down in a bikini and he can
see her in a bikini, so he drops his paddle.
It's very funny.

Speaker 4 (01:50:54):
That was enough.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
The other people pick up his paddle and they go, oh, Spaz,
it's really And then hopefully and then I assume it
cut away from that to Bill Murray doing something that
saved the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:51:08):
Holy shit, there is a Meatball's four movie set on
DVD for thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Dollars fucking meatballs a month. Here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
I'm just I'm just looking it up because I'm like,
do I I have the first one on blue ray?
Do I need all of them on my shelf? Is
my collector mentality? Need to have all of them?

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
Need Meatballs? Like it's a it's a pretty specific one.

Speaker 4 (01:51:37):
It looks like Part three is not on any reasonable
DVD or Blu Ray release because there's four movie set
is actually an import from Europe that looks like, oh
so I don't know, so it doesn't look like it's

(01:51:59):
gonna happen. So it's good news for you. I guess,
I don't know. You're already mad at me enough for
buying some Dolph London movies over the week.

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
I don't matter you for buying them. I matter you
for putting them on the list.

Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
But Command Performance is supposed to be good. I've heard
a lot about it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
We'll see. I'll probably have to add on the list
to try to push that down.

Speaker 5 (01:52:24):
Trying to steal my moves.

Speaker 4 (01:52:26):
I put it. I put it on the list with
the VANDAM movie Sudden Death.

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
Nice which one Sudden Death.

Speaker 4 (01:52:33):
The one where he is the fire marshal at the
hockey game and has to stop terrorists.

Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
Have we not covered that?

Speaker 5 (01:52:39):
I thought we did.

Speaker 4 (01:52:41):
It was on the list, but in the section that
just had Sudden Death and then Slash and then a
bunch of question marks because we know what's teaming up
with you.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
Sure it wasn't a different sudden death.

Speaker 4 (01:52:51):
Well maybe, but now it's a sudden death of the
Vandam Dolph London where he's a rock star out of
an arena show and terrorsts take it over, and as
the drummer he's obligated to take all the terrorsts out.

Speaker 3 (01:53:08):
He's going to be extremely overwhelmed trying to compete with
John Cloud Van Dam in full goalie equipment kicking a
guy in the throat while wearing skates.

Speaker 4 (01:53:17):
Well, so apparently in this one he takes one of
his drumsticks and throws it at the guy and it
goes through his eyeball.

Speaker 5 (01:53:23):
So does sound pretty good just saying it's tempting.

Speaker 4 (01:53:28):
But the DVD has interviews with Dolph London, behind the
scenes fight footage, and Spanish subtitles.

Speaker 5 (01:53:38):
The behind the scenes fight footage is actually just John
Clyde Vandam getting in a fist fight with a cast member.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
Just kicking dudes in the face and being like, I
swear it was an accident, kicks another dude in the face.

Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
Yeah, it's so. Apparently they're Russia and this one he's
playing as a backup drummer for some America's hottest pop
star in Moscow, but then terrorists take it over and
the guest of honor, the Russian President and his two
teenage daughters are in attendance. So that's why.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
So this is the story about how an American rock star,
alp Vladimir Putin come to power and maybe possibly start
World War three.

Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
So I did not know this one when I bought it.
Now I'm looking at it, and there's a credit in
this movie. Story by Dolph London, screenplay by Steve Latshaw
in Dolph Londeron, directed by Dolph London Gold. This was

(01:54:47):
the best purchase I ever made. I believe it was
a dollar as well.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
So you're a rough one.

Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
Can't wait we get that to look forward. It's on
the list people right in. Somebody picked it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
It's also were wolf movies on the list, turning Living
Dead months on the list.

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
The problem is werewolf movies very hard to find good
ones anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:55:13):
Well, I was gonna say, we've seen the three good ones.

Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
That's why I picked weird ones from the seventies that
I've never seen.

Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I guess some
interesting choices coming up. I just added some stuff to
the list while we were doing the show today, because
after talking about Bill Murray, we have to do an
episode on stripes and then of course team that up
with In the Army Now with Pauli Shore.

Speaker 3 (01:55:42):
So yeah, keep adding comedies to the list. It works
out so well every time.

Speaker 5 (01:55:49):
You guys, remember In the Army Now, that super popular
movie that everyone loved.

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
Pauli Shore and Andy Dick when Pauli Short had to
shave off as long as hair. Never made it out
like it was a big deal and mattered.

Speaker 4 (01:56:03):
Yeah, oh my god, he shaves his head. Lori Petty
is in it, Stave's he got Tinker all back in
the desert.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
It's just all these people who are famous for shaving
their head in the movie together pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
Please remember to replace the speaker on the post when
you leave the theater.

Speaker 6 (01:56:33):
And our folks, it's time to say good night.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
We sincerely appreciate your patronage and hope we've succeeded in
bringing you an enjoyable evening of entertainment.

Speaker 6 (01:56:42):
Please drive home carefully and come back again soon. Good Night,

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