Return of the Living Dead & Flesh Eater

This episode we're taking a look at two sort of sequels to Night of the Living Dead. First up, a group of punks fight off re-animated corpses in RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD. Then, the very first Romero zombie rises again in FLESH EATER.

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 4 (00:55):
That's over all very high energy today.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
That was high energy yesterday, and you guys postponed and
screwed for thing up.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
So well, technically it was just me, it wasn't Noah.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah. I like to blame Noah anyway, it's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
I mean usually it is me, so.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Now this time it was my editor. He's like, we
want to pay you money to do something. Would you
like to do that? Or do something you don't make
money for. I was like, well, I do like money.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
You should have said no. Sorry. My artistic integrity insists
that I stick to my commitments. That's what That's what
we should have done.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Artistic integrity finds the stuff he asked me to do
very boring. So he's had to write up something about
everything we know about the next twenty eight years later
movie that's coming out January. Since I didn't see the
last one. That wasn't a very fun write up.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, you should see the last one. It was good.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Eh, I've read about it so much now that I
feel like I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
A lot of times. Movies only work if you actually
watch them and not if you read about them.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
That's my I was gonna say. And about a third
of it is very visual.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, I watched the trailer for it. Pretty good arailer
for them.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
You're in a really good mood today. You're a really
good mood today. I can tell. I can just really not.
The positivity is just beaming off of you today, Brian.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Two shootings in one day. It's good. It's good times.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
There's two shootings today. It's pretty good for you guys.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
You only had two shootings, well, only two that are
being reported. One of them was the mass shooting.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yes, oh they were reporting.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Those, Yeah, surprisingly not as much as the other one.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
So yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
My brother, who I love, I talked to yesterday and
he was talking about how liberals don't know what they're
talking about. And in Washington, d C. All everyone can
talk about is how happy they are that there's a
military person standing on every corner with a machine gun
and that they've never felt safer and better Jesus Christ.

(03:22):
And I was like, even if it's true, it's not good, like, yeah,
even if it's true.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, you're not supposed to feel safe when I'm man
with a large gun is standing on every corner. That's
it's not generally a good sign.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
What happens if when you leave your house that guy
feels you've done something you shouldn't have done, you get
sent to jai.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Right to be fair, your government is taking a position
that you can just murder people who are in the
process of committing a crime if you determine they they
might be.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
So yeah, so you know, I'm veryc Yeah, it's good times.
It's good times down here, dud.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
I never felt I wanted to move out of this
country more than I did today. That was everybody else's.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Week, pretty good. I'm planning to murder mystery Dinners, which
is like the way that death can and be talked
about and be fun sure, instead of miserable.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
I guess it depends on the theme. I guess. But
if you want, if you have one, if you want
to off Republicans, I can set it up for you.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
One of one of them is nineteen eighties hair metal
in your backstage at a show, and the other one
is Old West.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
You're gonna be I ain't like like bon Jovi wigs.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
For the other one, uh, probably I need to look
up because the host usually has a specific thing. So
for the Old West one, I'm old timey bartender. Okay,
but I haven't read the eighties one all the way
through yet to know what I'm supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Something pouring yourself shots of whiskey and then just doing them.
I can show you how to do that. You can
do like a video conference or something.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
I don't think I got that handle.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
You need to calm down your rock and roll lifestyle. No,
how was your week done?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Fine? M I'm back to work and then my kid
plays football four days a week now, So I don't know,
there's no there's no other stories of what I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
It's just it's playing football.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Notion in a man's gonna play no foosball.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I'm concerned about fact that I decided I am concerned,
and I decided my kids shouldn't play. I put him
in flag football to avoid that problem. Now he plays both.
Now he plays both fall four times a week.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Fucked up so bad.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's like, oh, it worked out well, God.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
So well.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
It would legitimately be difficult to fuck that up worse.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
And both my nephews they're still in school play and
uh yeah, it seems like one of them definitely has
head trauma because he's a Trump supporter, and the other
one not so much. And I worry about hmmm.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I mean, I guess kids get hurt such as life.
I don't as a parent in today's world, I'm not
sure if I should be encouraging my kid to avoid
head trauma, Like, yeah, might be might be nice for
your brain to not work going into the future.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Reading into so, I mean, I don't know. You take
them ziplining and stuff. Maybe that's enough danger.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, I don't have to tell you. ZIP planning I
think is safe, and that those teenagers that put you
in harnesses and then hook them onto that wire, then
they seem to know what they're doing.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
They definitely they've definitely had hours of training.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Some of them have been trained to make sarcastic comments
before they go. It's like pretty good.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well, I mean, whatever you do with your kid doing,
you just have to make sure he understands that you know,
whatever path he takes in life. Uh, it's not a
fucking costume, it's a way of life.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well answer nails trying to figure out where you're going
with that one. I respect that one.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Uh. So Doug decided we're doing Return Living Dead theme
for this month of September, and uh, the first week
has two movies that are sort of pseudo sequels to
the original Night of Living Dead, one more than one
more than the other.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
You think, So, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
I think Return of Living Dead is way more of
a sequel. It at least purports that the original movie
was a movie, but there was a real incident.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
The other one'll get into the discussion about about both.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Wow, Doug, wann't you tell us about Flush.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Eater Flush Eater in the movie that Brian doesn't think
is a direct sequel Tonight a Living Dead, a farmer
digs up the body of the zombie from Living Dead
which has been buried underground for twenty years, and by
sheer coincidence, some young people are going on a hay ride,

(09:14):
which apparently in the lore of this movie, you just
take a farmer will just let you on their tractor,
drive you out to the middle of the field, drop
you off so you can get drunk, and then come
back for you later, which actually sounds kind of fun.
But then the zombie starts biting people. Then they get
turned in to zombies. So then we set up a

(09:35):
scenario where we are introduced to a bunch of people.
The survivors from the last scene come running in. Then
the zombies show up eat the people, these survivors run off.
We're introduced to a group of people, the survivors show up,
then the zombies follow start eating people. The survivors run off.

(09:56):
Then we're introduced to a group of people and then
the survi evers in the last scenes show up, and
then the zombies follow them and start eating people. And
then the survivors run off, and about every third scene
a woman shows her boops.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Do you call these movies teenagers?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
By the way, they are supposedly college kids according to
the official plot description.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
I was getting ready to say teens by eighties movie standards.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, they're they're They're supposed to be in college. They
are not. They are there. There are moments in this
movie where the college students like run to like a
farmhouse looking for help, and the dad finds me.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
He's like, what are you kids doing here?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
And I'm like, those kids are no younger than you.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Than you, I don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Like, at least he can grow facial here, you can't.
Like Jesus, the casting is interesting, to say the least.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Oh my god. If anybody wants a visual representation of
patting out a movie to make it full length, definitely
watch the beginning of this movie. Fucking Lord. I sat
there and I was just like, this, that's how the
whole movie is going to be. We have to watch
them drive the hay ride the tractor down the entire
road through the whole frame of the scene for like

(11:16):
five minutes with like nothing happening.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
The whole set up to. This movie is so absurd
because it's these air quotes. College students are going to
go on a hay ride. They're heading out to the
middle of this random field. They're gonna sit there and
get drunk and build a fire, and there's like a
pre existing fire pit for.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Them to sit up and have pre barrettal s.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
But they first of all, they have no plan, They
have no idea if they're staying the night or if
they're going home. They have one cooler, which even if
that cooler has only beer in it, it's still not
enough for the ten people. But they don't bring any
food whatsoever for this. And then they don't like they
don't have tents, they don't have sleeping bags, they don't anything.

(12:04):
It's the it's the fall, it's Halloween, and so they're
like undecided whether they're gonna stay the night, and the
farmers like, ah, I'll come back around midnight. If you
guys want to go home, great, If you want to
stay at the night, you can. It's like that's not
how anything works. Like if you're going to sleep outdoors
in October in Pennsylvania, you're gonna be like you need

(12:25):
to plan ahead. You're gonna bare minimum of blankets, Like
it's they have one blanket and ten people. Yeah, it's
so absurd, and it's just it's like, what is even happening?
And then they're like, oh, what if we run out
of beer, Let's get the farmer into a beer run
for us, get us two six packs. And it's like,
there's ten of you. You're making them go all the
way to town and come back for one point two

(12:46):
beers a person. What's even happening?

Speaker 4 (12:49):
These people don't know how drinking works.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
They don't know anything works. It's so ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
It's in their defence, they all do seem to be
far more preoccupied with fucking, which is that's all right.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
That's fair. I mean, look, it's just but again, if
you're gonna if you're gonna take chicks into the woods
and expect them to have sex with you, you're gonna
want to bring like a meal for them. If you're
gonna be out there, possibly over it, right, like you know,
you're building a fire, you'd think you would cook something
over that fire.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
But no, even if it's just isores, at least that's something.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, it's just it's so funny. To watch the first
like fifteen minutes of this movie where you're like, how
is this How are you expecting me to believe that
this is a real scenario. It's I mean, it's funny.
You're laughing at the movie as it's happening. I guess.
So if that's what they're going for, great, but I
don't think they were.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yeah, this movie has like literally is just what you described,
people running into a scene, zombies showing up, people running
out of a sea repeat.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
So other than the fact that the beginning of the
movie takes so long to get going, you know, this
movie is this shitty version of Nightmare City where like
once the zombies show up, it's just zombies all the
way down, you know, like, yeah, no stopping them zombies.
Once the zombies get rolling.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Like here, here's a nice family giving out like trig
or treating, and then zombies show up.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
That little girl gets heen and it makes me very happy.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah that when the zombies are actually eating someone, I'm
pretty happy the whole time. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
So the special effects, I.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Like, they're not good, but they're those fun eighties gorel yeats.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah, and then uh, for the most part, like the
stuff that's going on. I'm into I mean, this is
just sleazy. I mean, somebody clearly likes George Ramiro, but
they were like, you know what, George Ramiro doesn't do
put enough tits in a movie, bare enough, which I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Accurate, but still I will I will compliment the movie though,
Like part of getting an audience involved in your movie
is getting them to like resonate with the main characters.
And I will say that that original group of chicks,
they are very attainable women. They did not go out
and get like Hollywood women with big fake breasts. They're
very average looking. And I'm like, yeah, I can relate

(15:24):
to these guys. They just I mean, I mean, I'm
a Canadian. These are guys just hanging out in the woods, drinking,
wearing flannel and too much denim, hanging out with average women.
I'm like, yeah, this sounds like a fun night in
college to me.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
This is also not the first movie that we have
ever watched that I've made the exact same complaint. But
god damn it, the sound mix on this movie so
fucking bad. It's so bad, Like I I just it
sounds like everything is badly dubbed. After the fact, even
though I actually don't think it.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Is no by sound mix. I think what you're referring
to is the microphone on the camera that the guy
was holding.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Well, and I don't know what they did, but the
folly is so loud and like at the beginning of
the movie, there's the dude in the chick that are
in the barn like making out before they she gets
her tense bit off by a zombie or whatever. Yeah,
but they're kissing and the wet mouth sounds are so

(16:26):
fucking loud that I was like, I want to turn
this movie off. It was like, I don't know, there's
something so horrible about it. I was like, this is
ruining this movie.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Please stop. Like I have to say, considering the quality
of this movie, I'm shocked we at this level of
nitpicking already.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
I mean, well, like I said, listen, this is my
type of garbage for the most part, so most of
this movie, I'm good with all of it. I'm good
with the dumb, fucking nonsense plot. I'm okay with them
riding a tractor for fucking twenty minutes for no goddamn reason.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
They had to go drink in the woods. Now they're
gonna they're gonna be in the woods overnight in October.
And then there's that wonderful dialogue where the guy who
drove them out there is like, by the way, you
should probably start a fire, since it's October thirty first
and you're in the middle of the woods in Pennsylvania,
Like it's probably gonna be cold later.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
Idiots get dumb motherfuckers, stupid pieces of shit.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah, yeah, I was not impressed with this movie. We know, okay, good.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I would suggest that I know for a fact that
you watched this movie today, and having spoken to you
for a few minutes before this, perhaps you were not
in the correct state of mind to be watching this.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
That's possible, But man, I just felt like nothing really happened,
Like the plot is literally what you described at the beginning,
Like you weren't even like it wasn't like a big joke.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
I wasn't making a joke. That's what happened exactly.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
But this is like the second Bill Heinzman movie I've watched,
because he also directed that horrible movie Santa Claus that
I saw.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Right, He's only directed like.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Three Yeah, I will say after watching this, I shann't
to be watching the third probably.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I'm putting it up.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
I was gonna say, also, if this was the one
you were finishing up, that you watch them in the
wrong order.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Well, I didn't watch Return a Living Dead because I
literally just saw it a couple months ago in the
theater and have watched it so many times that I
could recite it for memory. And I didn't have time
to rewatch it. And I definitely was not watching either
one of these movies at work.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
So why not?

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Well, in multiple scenes, there's two very good reasons. I'll
tell you why not.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Ah titty jokes.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
It was. It was like the level of nudity in
this film for actors who probably weren't getting paid, was extreme.
You were like at the one farmhouse where they just
spent like four minutes so that the daughter could have
a shower before she got eat zombie. I like to
think of that scene as the tribute to Halloween, because

(19:15):
she goes and she sits there naked at her little
desk thing with the mirror and she's combing her hair
and I'm like and then you get the POV shot
as the zombie comes in, and I'm like, ah, look
at that they didn't just see that into Living Dead,
they also saw Halloween and then stole ideas from it
for this movie.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
I was gonna say, there's a really great scene where
a dude in a check are getting ready to hook up,
and it's the exact opposite of most rape eighties movies,
where the guy's like, hey, no, I don't want to
give you the wrong impression, like I really am not
interested in the relationship and I think that you maybe,
and she's like, no, I just want to fuck man.
He's like, oh, okay, So that.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Was a fun moment. Is it that couple or is
it the other couple that hooks up in a bar,
because there's two different couples that hook up in barns
where they start going at it and she's like, the
straws really pokey? Can you just be on the bottom
And he's like, I don't give you ship whatever is
like in typical guy fashion, He's just like, I don't
lay on sticky stuff and get poked so that I

(20:16):
can get my dick wet. Sure, why not?

Speaker 5 (20:18):
I don't give no fuck.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Come, that's gonna hurt tomorrow. This is gonna feel good
right now. I'm not thinking this through that much, you
didn't have any fun with.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
This because it also doesn't help because I watched that
Santa Claus movie and it was fucking terrible, which by
the way, he didn't directed, John Russo did, but he
was in it. That was enough. But apparently I read
the trivia before this movie before I watched it, and
apparently nobody was allowed to touch all the naked actresses

(20:53):
on set except for him.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
But that's not true. I read that piece of trivia
is I read that piece of trivia as well, but
it's it's not true if you watch the movie, like
lots of other people touch naked women, every naked woman's
being touched by somebody in this movie. He does give
himself the scene where he finds the naked girl in
her bedroom and bites her neck until she's dead, and

(21:17):
then he proceeds to air quotes bite her chest a
bunch of times, but when they pull back, there's no
bite arks on her chest.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
So he was just you know, you know, mouth and
a teat.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yes, I think that's what I wasn't sure how to
word it.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
But I was here the stuff in for I bet
he was like, look, I get no pleasure out of this,
But I'm willing to take the sacrifice to get the
shot for the movie?

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Is me the forty something year old man willed mouths
of these eighteen year old girl for the art? I
will do it for the art of this film.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Let me call my producing partner, Harvey West to make sure. Okay,
he's the head of our ethics committee.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
How does this movie end, though.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Dead with flesh Eater looking dead into the camera smiling.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Oh well, I was talking more or you were just
ripping off the end of the Night Living Dead, but
with zero political context.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
It is not ripping off Night of Living Dead. This
is a direct sequel because some of the posse.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Members that show up are.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Literally the same posse members from Night to Living Dead. True,
And the one guy looks into the camera and goes,
I'm getting pretty good at this, Like I like, I
have a twenty years of practice shooting zombies as part
of a posse.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
But he shoots the two survivor people, but they're both
are both white, and they both walk out of the
walk out of the house. They're like, I'm glad the
zombie thing's over.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Bam no, bamad It's it's so much worse than Night
of a Living Dead, because not living that you can
argue like, hey, the house is like crumbling and he's
acting zombie like if you were looking at it from
a distance and you know, but this is like they're
speaking loudly like don't shoot us, we're over here, we're

(23:10):
the survivors, and then they just shoot them anyway, and
they act like nothing happening.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
I don't know, the zombies learned to talk.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's yeah, I mean it's it's bad, but it was.
But it's bad, but it was fun to watch. I
will say that much like I enjoyed watching this movie,
I think it would have been a lot more fun
if I'd been intoxicated when I watched it. I think
it's a good movie to watch with a group. I
watched it alone in my basement, and I still enjoyed

(23:42):
a lot of it.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Though, ye, I think that that posse is still not
as good as the posse from the nineteen ninety Tomsovini
remake them Out of the Living.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Dead because they made the zombies.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Fight because nobody yells in the name of Odin's bambs.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
I haven't watched that one in a long time.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, it's so while it's a great it's a great line,
I don't know, Like I man, when we get to
that the other college kids that are having a party
in a barn, and it's the worst college party ever.
There's like eight people there, but at least they have
a keg like real people who would go to a party.
It's just it's like, it's like eight people is like
four couples. And one of the guys still hits on

(24:28):
one of the other girls. It's not his girlfriend. You're like,
how are you? How are you getting away with this?
Everybody's in the same room.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
I not understand why there's two parties just make up
one giant party.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Well, they didn't know each other.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
I had a point. I was going to bring it up.
I forget Oh was I not paying attention? Did they
ever explain why the og living dead zombie was buried
like a bunch of weird magic ship over where he
was there?

Speaker 3 (25:00):
It's like a weird line of dialogue about hey, weren't
their kids doing like black magic on that farm one time?
But not like a good explanation, just like a just
a one off, like that's the same farm where this happened.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
So you're telling him so. Twenty years ago, during the
global zombie outbreak, a couple of teenagers were like, hey,
grab that guy, let's throw him in this coffin and
then wrap a chain around it, and then apparently get
zombie put a diagram on top of it.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, and it had that little saying on it as
well though.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
And then bury him, barry him two inches from the
top soil, right, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
And then twenty years later somebody accidentally dug him up accidentally.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
He just waved his hand over it to brush stuff away,
and then spent the next five minutes brushing all the
dirt away from it and all the dead leaves.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, it's like Jesus christy fair. I will give the
movie this much credibility. If you were just like waving
your hands over some dirt and you accidentally found a coffin,
you'd probably dig up the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Yeah, but I wouldn't expect anybody to watch me dig
up the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Well, you're not in a movie, true.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Hey, Dale, film this dig up this dead guy.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
I don't know, probably shouldn't. It's like chain shit, It'll
be fine.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Can you at least acknowledge that the zombie stuff was fun, Brian, Like,
what about that one guy that gets stabbed through the
chest with a pitchfork and then the rest of the
movie he's walking around but it's stuck in him still
the handle broken up. That's fun, right, Sure? When the posse,
when we see like people getting killed, one thing I
enjoyed about this movie. We see people getting killed, and

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then the Posse shows up at the end and they're
like this again, and they're like shooting all the zombies,
but they're like going back to the locations we visited
earlier in the movie, and now the victims from earlier
are the zombies and they're shooting them. So we get
to see them shoot those kids that could eat by
zombies earlier.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
That's fun, right, We gonna watch those kids die twice exactly.
It's a good movie.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
I mean, if there's a way to kill them a
third time, I'd be all for it. But I think
they did pretty good it too.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
If it wasn't for those mouths sounds.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
There is there is a problem with the the zombies
just keep biting the neck and you're like, I don't.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Know, they're they're vampire zombies.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, it's a little repetitive, I would say, but it
does like it they effect. They got the effect just right,
Like again, not good, but fun, and I'll take it.
There is the one moment too, though, where like the
one the one original guy from like he's the only
surviving male from the original group of people that were

(27:53):
just on their hay ride and he's in the party
in the barn with the other people who are actually
having a real Halloween party where they were costumes, and
then he's like, zombies are here and he runs and
he does like this huge athletic move to jump over
like the hay bales on the other side of the
barn and escape the other side. And you're like, if
you've been able to do that the whole time, why

(28:16):
are you still in danger. It's like they just they
figured out they had one guy on set who could
jump really well for one scene and they're like, we'll
use that.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Get Dan in here and get him to jump over
some shit.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Dan's got them.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Ups put him in the denim so he'll look like
the other guy way too much denim.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I had a really good time watching this movie. Again,
not arguing that it's good. I want to make that
abundantly clear. It's not good, but it was really fun
to watch. Yeah, it's like a precursor to Night of
a Living Dead because it's like every week there's a
half an hour episode of zombies just showing up the
location in eating people. And that's what this movie is.

(29:02):
It's just these little trinkets of just zombie show put
a house, eat the people in the house, zombie s
O p at a barn, eat the people in the barn.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Talking about the dead.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, I'm saying that that's what this is. It's almost
like an episodic, like just every week our main characters
meet up with some new people, the new people get eaten,
main characters move on.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
I have a living Dead. Oh sorry, I get your point.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
It's this. This is such a direct reimagining of a
Living Dead that I get them confused.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah, I don't know. It didn't worry for me.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I feel like, yeah, I feel like you're just in
a bad mood, probably too sober, because it's not like
like there's nothing good about this. There's not a single
element of this movie that is objectively good.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Just tits and blood come on.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
But even like again I would go the blood doesn't
look real fun. I enjoy looking at it, but it's
not real. And the tits they didn't have the budget
for real actresses. This is just whatever tits were willing
to be on the screen that lived in the area.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
I don't understand how any of that defeats what I said.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
No, I'm just saying I again, I'm in favor of
it all. I just I think for our listening audience,
we want to make it abundantly clear we're not This
isn't high art.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
It's dark.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Well it's not. Yeah, but it's fun garbage.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
Right, yeah, sure, it's like you're Bryant.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
That is garbage. But speaking of something you can never
not be happy watching. No, do you want to tell
us about Return of Living Dead?

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Return of the Living Dead is the oh I was
gonna say it is the best and non nine of
the Living Dead, not of the Living Dead sequel, but
man zombies, real neck and neck. I guess different reasons though,
we've got dudes that work in a mortuary. Turns out
they were accidentally sent barrels of zombies from the original incident,

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which was covered up via being made into a movie.
Ha haha. We have changes to the cannon, including things
like shooting a zombie in the head. Don't do jack shit.
These are super mega ultra zombies. You can cut them
into cubes and the cubes will scoot after you. And

(31:37):
they lack brains because brains makes the pain stop. Oh yeah,
I guess they're also smarter, smart zombies, at least smart
enough to like lay traps.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yesh zombies, and talking zombies. They're all the z They're
all the things that we complain about in zombie movies.
But because this movie is good, we just let it
all go. Man.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
So I'm assuming everybody hated this movie, right.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
And Ladeia Quickly is trashyess.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
How dare you say that about her? No? No, that's
her name.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Ladea Quickly in the role that ushered many a prepeabescent
boy in the manhood.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
And confused them just as much, being like, where's her
vagina at?

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Why she Why is she wearing a prosthetical vagina like
a Barbie doll.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
You'd think they could have just left her pants on
rather than doing that.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Right, but producers were like, no, no, she shall be naked,
but we can't have that unsightly vagina just flapping around
put on the Barbie prosthetic.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
It's such a weird decision. I don't know, because the
other side of that is if you want to like
to put something fake over the other special effects in
the movie are great exceptions. Every every special effect in
the movie except that one is really good.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Well, but if you made a realistic prosthetic for Jinna,
then you would defeat the purpose of the prosthetic. For
Jenna again, just keep.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
A pants on, like booty shorts on. They would have
been fine. Just don't have her take them off.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
There's no plot reason for her to get naked either.
She just randomly dances and gets naked in the middle
of this movie and then is naked for the remainder
of the movie. So like you could just you rewrite
that scene.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
I mean, the reason for it is that it's awesome's.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Just dancing in a graveyard naked. It is like, it
is the thing that comes to mind the most when
I think about this movie, is just this idea of
her just up on that like crypt just dancing like
this seems really inappropriate.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
That the zombie strapped to the table, which one the
he and half a zombie.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
They they strapped to a table in question. Yes, yes,
Why do you find that inappropriate?

Speaker 5 (34:10):
I don't. Oh, it's just yeah, it's the thing that
comes to mind whenever I think of this movie.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, okay, that's fair. But they do at one point,
they do capture a zombie, tie it to a table,
and question it to find out what the zombies want.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
Weirdly give us a lot of information.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
It's it's funny too, though, because if I if I
were going to point out a flaw in this film,
it's like the scene where the zombie is smart enough
and can articulate well enough.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
To be like, grab the CBE radio and call for
more paramedics kind of bugs me. But the zombie that's
strapped to the table being able to answer questions doesn't
bug me. I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
What about when you ask for more cops?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, that bugs me too, zen more caps zombie grat
speaking into the the CBE radio calling for more brains
to come to the scenes that they can eat them
for some reason bothers me. But talking zombie on the
gurney thing does not.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Interesting. I was gonna bring some up forgot.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Do you guys have a favorite zombie in the whole movie?

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Well, I mean tar Man, come on.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah, I mean that's that's I guess that's gonna be
everybody's answer, right.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
It's just so good, it's it's it is easily one
of the best looking zombies.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah. Ever, like, yeah, I'm glad that. Like, I'm glad
the movie is kind of comedic in a way where
it allows for the zombie to move the way it
does and for me to not be bothered by that,
because it would bug me in a real zombie movie
if it did that.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yeah, I know, he was like stuck in a canister
for like twenty years, and so to dissolve.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
Being being all jerky, got that.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
I just like my traditional shambling zombies, that's all.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
But he was kind of shambling. He's having trouble walking.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
He's too fast.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
He was the slowest out of all of them in
this movie.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, the rest of them are too fast.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Took all right. They like the yellow zombie.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, I do. I like that one a lot. I
don't know why. There's just something weird about it. It's
just gross.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
And I just love them sticking the thing and it's
head and it's still like.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
And using the hacks on and chop his head. Off,
and it's still just like, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (36:47):
I do think the visual too, when they cut him
up into little tiny pieces and put the pieces in
garbage bags and they go across the street to try
to burn them, and all the garbage bags are still moving.
It looks great. It's so like they're all different sizes
and shapes and they're all moving in their own little way.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
I just like that Ernie keeps solving Bert's problem, but
not the way he wanted. So like he's like, h
it's weasels, rabbid, weasels man, I can't have that. And
he's like, well, come on, pulls out his gun and
he's like, let me take him o the in the
parking lot. We'll shoot him. And he's just like no, no, no, no, no,
we can't do that.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
Can't just shoot these weasels.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Do you know what else I love about this movie?
Because she brought a burdener and he is like, why
is there not a single normal human being in this
entire fucking movie. Like you've got the guy who runs
like the medical supply shop and he is he's your
mayor from Jaws character who's like, we can't we can't
let the public know about these zombies, what will it

(37:46):
do to my like my business of selling medical supplies,
Like as if the public's gonna hear about that and
buy their medical supplies somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
I'm not buying my dog from that place anymore.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Like you sell half dogs. You're worried about this, And
then you're like, He's like, we'll go to my friend
across the street, who's a corner that listens to his
walkman while he's cutting up bodies, but also has a
gun strapped to his hip.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
For some reason, it was also possibly a Nazi hiding out.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah, probably the fan theory about him.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
If you look at all the subtle clues they put
in the movie, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I buy it explains the gun more than anything else.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Oh yeah, the gun is a German ruger and he's
got a picture of Ava Brown hanging up in his office.
For some reason, he.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Might just be a big fan.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Some some dudes think Ava Bronz super hot.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
What you say, but yeah, like I love those two guys.
I love like the other guy that even the other
guy that works at the like the older guy that
works at the medical supply show. We don't want the
army coming around here when like fucking gases leaked out
of a container with the army's phone number on it. Yes,
you do, that's exactly who you want coming around.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Yeah, I like, yeah, I like the other guys ready,
and what's his face? He's like, you just shut your
mouth if you want this job.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Like this job, they're good fighting zobbies and that we're
losing their job. And then you got like the like
the punk kids who are just there to pick up
their buddy after work, but they got there like ours, right,
which is funny, it's inherently funny. And then there's like
it's like every punk stereotype from the eighties. It's like

(39:38):
the guy with like the chains coming out of his
face and the other guy's dressed like he's gonna just
listen to way too much new wave music.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Good yea the brown hair or check with the orange
hair chick with the blue hair. Yeah, and then the
normal looking preppy chick.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
For some reason, every gang has one they always do
in every eighties movie. It's because she was gonna go
with the guy that was like all nice and preppy looking,
but it turns out he was a big jerk and
she had to go the really genuinely nice guy from
the Bad Side of the Tracks that was in like
a prequel to this.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Then the way you just described that sounded so much,
unfortunately like a Hallmark movie. So like the lead into
the lead into this movie is some fucking dude buying
a Christmas tree farm in its own of.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Course, it was the one black guy. It's got to
be in a gang too. Yeah, it surprisingly lives almost
the longest in this movie.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I think that stereotype, I think a stereotype is overblown.
So it's my opinion. Yeah, that's my anti woke establishment
says statement for the day is like, I think that
the whole the black eyed ice first thing. It's like,
I'm sure there are movies where the black eyed dies first,
but the idea that it's a trope that happens all
the time, it's ridiculous that guy doesn't die first in

(41:05):
Friday thirteenth Part five either does.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
He not first? But yeah, he dies in a shipthouse
because of those damn Enngelata's.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Dressed like Michael Jackson. I mean, let's let's be honest.
That feels a little racist. It's a bad example. That's
a bad example.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
I'm gonna have to go back and relook at my
Michael Jackson history to see if Michael Jackson was black
when that movie came out or not. He was so
many different colors in so many different years, there's no
way to know.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
I think we just got cancer that.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Vent parts of this movie. That's all of it.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Yeah, I was gonna say that again. We chose a
movie that is impossible to talk about because it's just good.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, well okay, but there's something that I don't think
it's discussed enough with this movie, which is just how
good the visuals are. We talk about the special effects
and the and the makeup effects on the zombies. That's fine,
but man, when they're when they're using that like uh
incinerator in the in the more to like burn up
the bodies and you get those visual shots of the
things sliding into the fire, then the big doors closing,

(42:20):
it looks really fucking cool. And then you get when
the mist from the or the smoke I guess goes
up and mixes with the rain and becomes missed, and
you get the shots of the water dribbling down through
the earth all the way down to like the actual
bodies underground. Like that looks cool. That's like, and that
that's keeping in mind this is an eighties film, Like

(42:42):
to pull that off back then, you had to physically
build something like it's not you know, you couldn't. It's
something that you would see happening cartoons back in the day,
but you would never see it happen in real life.
Except for this example.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
I always appreciate the moment of seeing the smoke go
up because you know, of course it's that you done
fucked up moment. Yeah, but it's done in such a
way that you feel like the only thing that's missing
from it is it going wah.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
But it and I don't know, there's something about to you,
like the movie walks that line of like there are
times when it's kind of scary, you know what I mean,
Like you couldn't show this to a small child. But
then I think adding in those cartoonish elements of the
big visual of the inflamment thing that you know, all
of that, it's it brings the movie back into a

(43:34):
fun space and reminds you that you're watching a giant
cartoon basically, right. Yeah, So I think all of that,
like the visual filmmaking is really impressive.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Especially when the skeleton comes out of the ground and
it's got eyeballs for some reason, I'm not really kick
ass song kicks in, so you're like, yeah, it's totally
worth it, don't care.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yep, not questioning it. I kept wanting the skeletons that
were in the medical supply shop to get up and
walk around. That's what I kept thinking about. Like, there's
skeletons right there. They're all from India.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
For some reason, I'll got perfect teeth.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
You guys really missed an opportunity for all these skeletons
to get up and walk around.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Uh, we should compliment Dan O'Bannon then, for his excellent
directing in this movie.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
We should. The whole thing is I mean, it's an
expertly made film, which is like for a guy that's
not really known as a director, right, it's I mean,
it's really impressive how well made the film is. Yeah,
those shot like that the graveyard, like even just the

(44:44):
set is amazing. You get like those just at the
beginning when those punks are walking in and it's like
this abandoned graveyard that for some reason is said this
medical supply shout where they still have dogs.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
It's still a mortuary that is functioning. It's part of it.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Yeah, why is the mortuary functioning but the graveyard isn't.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Like that's just the old section of the graveyard. I
don't know. Uh, it's like it's.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Also called Resurrection Graveyard, which is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
There's also an amputee, a zombie. It's fun to see
at one point.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah, ma should think about the backstory. You wish there
was a side call where we have to see how
that guy became an empty team.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
I just think if I ran, like, of all the
zombies in this movie, if that was the one I
ran into, that's would scare me the most. Probably the
way he sits up and then chases after you on
those stubby legs. I'd be like, oh shit, oh shit.
I would just like start running away trying to lock myself.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Startle you in the most because you'd think for a
while there that you could if I can get away
from them.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Yeah. Any other favorite parts and any favorite quotes.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
I don't have any quotes in front of me. I
should have. I should have called them up because yes,
but I don't know what they are off the top
of my head.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Yeah. Uh, you like this job is pretty good. Uh,
people think this is a fucking costume? Is a way
of life? Always great?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Uh they had quickly's very monotone delivery of have you
ever dreamed about being pulled apart by a bunch of
old men? What the fuck?

Speaker 3 (46:34):
It's like if you ever fantasized about how you would die? Yeah,
my way to die would be getting pulled apart. And
it's like, well, luckily for you, that might happen this week.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
It's nailed it. You nailed your dreams.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
What a weird coincidence that that's how it's turned out.
But yeah, it's the dialogue is well written, like, and
the performances are all around quite good. Like when everyone
starts just freaking out in the movie. I think that
there's like, I don't know, there's like a a level

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of stress and anxiety in the film that is there
even though it's still being funny, which I like, God.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
Damn, this is why we don't do popular movies on
the show.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
I know.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
It's it's too hard to talk about things that are great.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Oh yeah, there's I'm pulling up quotes and it's like
the one where he's like he's like shoot him in
the brain. Then it doesn't work and he's like, well
it worked in the movie, and he's like, you mean
the movie lied. It's not so much the line but
the delivery of it. Like, I can't believe a movie
would lie to us.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
I don't know. This movie is good. We did sort
of bring it up. Yeah, this movie out of the
brains part of it. Like there's at least none of
the big mainstream movies out of the zombies were after
brains and now kind of like after this movie. Anytime
there's like a little cartoon zombie or something, usually they're
like brains or something.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Yeah, this movie really brought that element of floor to it,
which is interesting. This movie does also bring together cast
of Friday thirteenth Part five and Friday thirteenth Part six,
So that's fun.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
More about that next week. Yes, at a point, what
was it? But he lost it? God damn it. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
Oh was it? Just gonna be talking about how awesome
Lenea quickly?

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Well, there is that she's fantastic in this movie. Do
we feel like she would have had it's successful of
a career if it wasn't for this movie.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
I mean, this is her big mainstream breakthrough. Right, yeah,
because this is the of all the ship we talk
on this podcast. This is the unofficial sequel to the
Night of Living Dead that people actually know and like
you said, like an average person thinks zombie eats brains,
it's because of this movie. It's not because of anything
in actual zombie movies.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Do you like the military guy comes home at the
beginning of the movie and his wife was, how was
work there?

Speaker 3 (49:28):
He's like, crap, Like, I like how they just have
that scene with him at the beginning of the movie
just to like let you know he's out there. Then
when they call him that way, you won't be surprised.
The scene where they call him is really funny. It's
I don't and it's unintentionally funny, I think. But they're
just like he's just like, yep, okay, the zombies have

(49:49):
risen again. Yep, we know what happened one day? All right.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
He's doing the like yeah, he keeps asking the questions
and he's like, then what did you do and what
effect did that have? Oh? Really, he keeps doing that
and I liked it. Their solution is, yeah, we'll just
drop a nuke on the city.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Good.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Why not Louisville or whatever whatever city it was.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, I think it's Lousville, Kentucky.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Right, that's that's not realistic at all. The government bombs
am not not in a red state.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
You then realize immediately that that was the wrong call
and they just sucked it up.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Yeah. Anyways, I believe governments would Any government around the
world is capable of sucking up really bad. So we
know that's true. Moving on, Yeah, what else is there
to say about this movie? Great visuals, fun dialogue, good
performances all around too. For a low budget horror movie

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in the eighties, that's something you can't always say. There's
Oftentimes there's usually like a one good lead performer. This
has just a cast that just everybody does what they
need to do perfectly. I can't think of a bad
performance in this, including from the zombies themselves.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Right, Yeah, unless you count the call of paramedics because
you hate that.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
I don't. That's not the actor that's I don't like that.
You still like that. That's a writing issue. Yeah, that's
a writing issue for me, not a not an acting issue. Though.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
How do we feel about the UH incorporating the United
Living Dead? Was just a movie, but there was a
real incident that happened.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
I mean, I think it's a perfectly good method for
explaining away the differences.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
You know, I like, Yeah, that's what what I like
about it is it's like, Okay, we're paying tribute to
Night of a Living Dead, where you were not pretending
that this is an original idea, but at the same time,
we're not beholden to those rules, right, which because there
I mean, we didn't bring it up in Flesh Eater,
but there are moments where they don't stick entirely to

(52:03):
the lore. You know, for example, there's a person who
gets stabbed by a zombie and they still come back
as a zombie despite not getting bitten. You know, this
movie you could get away with that because hey, we're
inventing our own law, right.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
So yeah, oh, which, we didn't really bring up that
this movie is created, owned, whatever you want to call it,
by John Russo. So the sort of the lore is
that him and Romero co created Living Dead. They had

(52:37):
some sort of falling out. Romero went on to make
all of his Dead movies, and then this is what
John Russo sort of did with his part of the
rights or whatever you want to call it. Yeah, took
him twenty years later to finally get something going, but
actually made a pretty good Like, like you said, pseudo

(53:00):
sequel Tonight Living.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Dead, Yeah, it's a little spinoff thing.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
But then I feel like the drop off after this
one's real rough.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
We we're gonna talk about that then we are. But
to be honest, I haven't seen the sequels in so
long that I won't comment on them until we watch them.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
But listen, we get to watch three.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
I do enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
Yeah, well, I mean.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
This is a classic. It's just one of those lightning
in a bottle scenarios where it's a neat idea. They
got just the right director to create just the right
level of visuals. They got a good and I don't
know how they got this cast together, but they're all great.
You know, I don't know how they you know, like
it's just and that part of that is probably just

(53:47):
the connections and the you know, having a guy whose
name ties into Night Living Dead, you know, being able
to recruit people, because that is kind of are Like
I was gonna bring this up in our discussion Flesh
Eater because it's a little bit more relevant there than
it is here, but you know, Night Living Dead. Famously,
nobody made any money on it because they fucked up

(54:09):
the copyright, which is part of why it became such
a classic and such an influential film because it was
so easy to show. But yeah, George Romero got a
career out of it because he was the director, right,
other people who were involved in the making of that
film eventually had to find their own ways to monetize that.
There was no convention circuit back then, you know, so

(54:31):
they had to It took a while, but eventually they
got around to, like, hey, people are still talking about
that movie I was involved in twenty years ago. If
I make a sequel to it, be it an unofficial one.
People will pay me for that because of my connection
to that original film. So I don't blame these guys
for cashing in.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Oh no, no no. But it's just interesting to watch
them sort of split the rights and then see which
direction each of them went, because Romero's are obviously the
more tour type of movies where he's like, you know,
Down of the Dead, he's talking about consumerism. To Day
of the Dead, it's about militarism and stuff like that.

(55:11):
And yeah, and then there's this one that's just like
zombies are fun.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Yeah, and I'm fine with both approaches. Like, I think
it's you know, because in addition to what you're saying,
there's also the element of Romero is an artist and
he's making art, and Russo is a producer. He's making
a product. This is obviously intended to appeal to a
mainstream audience in a way that Romero's films never will. Yeah, right,

(55:39):
and that's I think there's again there's both of those
are valid. It's the movie industry is it is about
making a product that you can sell. It's also a
way for people to express themselves artistically. So there's nothing
wrong with both of those things happening.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
Interesting to watch maybe like a triple feature where it's
like Living Dead and Donna the Dead and then Return
of the Living Dead, so you have like the og
one and then the two like sequels that come out
of it.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Sort of Yeah. Well, and it's interesting though because with
Donna the Dead, like Romero is the one that introduced
the idea of comedy into the genre, right, Like he
also in addition to like basically creating the modern zombie genre,
he is also the first one to be realized, like
there's some fun to be had here, you know, let's

(56:30):
put them on an ice rink. Let's you know, stuff like.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
A pie throwing scene.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
He also did an amazing job of with each one
doing something different without them feeling completely different.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Yeah. And I think that's the tour nature of his filmmaking,
which is that you can feel that the Romero films
despite the fact that they're totally different, because the original
Dead Trip are all like, if you're watching them and
like analyzing them objectively, they're very different films, and they
don't they're not set in the same universe really, but

(57:11):
you can tell they were all made by the same guy,
and you can tell this is made by somebody completely different.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
Right really, See, I always feel like they definitely do
feel like it's the same world. It just feels like
you're seeing the world through a different set of eyes
each time.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Oh. I don't know that we're saying anything different, it's
just a different way of expressing it.

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Speaker 4 (58:05):
Alright, who watched stuff since last episode?

Speaker 5 (58:08):
I did not. Instead, I went to the Renaissance Festival
and walk drive and had fun. It's good stuff.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
I thought we talked about that last week.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
Did how many? How many weeks has it been since
we recorded? Did we record last week?

Speaker 4 (58:24):
We did record last week?

Speaker 3 (58:26):
I feel like.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
I also went to a thing called wonder Verse, which
is kind of like Dave and Busters, but it's owned
by Sony. It was pretty cool, so it's a weird thing.
I did this virtual reality Jumanji thing where you like
put on a headset and a vest and you walk
into a room and you're essentially blind just seeing through
the virtual reality. And it's fucking weird. So my brother

(58:51):
played it with me, and he was the Rocks character
and I was Jack Black's character, and if I looked
over at my brother in the room, it was the Rock,
which was strange. But I don't I don't know. And
this apparently that technology is getting pretty old now and
just what it does, Like it's like lawnmower man kind

(59:14):
of shit where you like, if you look at your hand,
you can wiggle your fingers and you see your cartoon
fingers moving. Yeah, and uh, at one point you I
picked up a torch and if I spun the torch
in my hand, you could see it spin in the game,
like it knew that it was rotating. I don't know,
it's just fucking wild.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
No, it became the lawnmower man and blew his mind.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I just love that, like like it's what they had
at like amusement parks in the late nineties. And no,
it was just doubbing having his mind blown.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
But no, I'm I mean I've done the like the
older ones too. This is some way deeper shit. It's
it's real fucking cool. But it's also five, five or
six years old at this point or something like that.
And supposedly the newer Star Wars ones are fucking bonkers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Yeah, but I've been wanting to try out one of
the new VR places, but there's a few around, but
I haven't been to one yet.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Nice, what'd you watch done?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Let's see we talked about found last week or the
week before or something like that, So I decided to
rewatch that. Okay, it's really good. It's better than I remember,
so for people who haven't seen it. Little kid and
older brother who still lives at home but isn't getting

(01:00:41):
along with the parents anymore. He sneaks into his older
brother's room to listen to his heavy metal tapes and
finds a human head in the closet. Older brothers a
serial killer. Younger brother who's super into horror films, doesn't
really know how to deal with that. That's basically the
whole plot of the movie. Like it, there's a couple
of twists and turns, but it's that for the whole movie,

(01:01:05):
and it is it is intense, Like I forgot how
much of a drama film it is, how little of
the film is horror, and how much of it is
just like, imagine being this kid, Imagine going through that,
and then he'd like he can't stop himself from going
in and checking again to see who the next head is.
And it's like the weird moment where the kid's getting
bullied at school and then the older brother kills the

(01:01:26):
bully and you're like, is that a nice thing? To
do or is that horrible? I'm not really sure. It
might be both, like it's both can be true and
it's and I don't know, like I guess like from
my perspective to like, so, like, this kid's like twelve,
his brother's like seventeen, but like when I was twelve,
I had a seventeen year old brother. His name was Steve,

(01:01:47):
just like the character in the movie, and he didn't
get along with my parents. And when he wasn't home,
I'd sneak into his room to listen to his heavy
metal music and I'd find weird shit in his closet,
but it was like that weird yeah, Like I found
a bong one set, I found naked pictures of Samantha Fox,
and it's not quite the same thing, but it was

(01:02:10):
that it is this thing where I'm like, oh, I
can really relate to this like kid who's like it
because the movie isn't it's not really clear when the
movie is set, but it kind of feels very eighties
and you know, so this kid is like the same
age I was, and he's like he really wants to
watch Night Breed because he liked hell Razor, And I'm like, yeah,
I remember wanting to watch because I liked Tell Razor
like and then I'm like, oh, and now he's dealing

(01:02:33):
with his older brother being a serial killer. That's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
This is where your story is shell part.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's very I love the fact that at
the end of the day, like the movie is about
two brothers that love each other. It really is, even
if it's fucked up and bad, you know what I mean.
It's like a fucked up, bad relationship, but like he's
trying his sociopath, fucking murderer brother is really thinking that

(01:03:06):
he's doing good for his little brother. Well, even if
he's horrible, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Because it's this whole thing. Films and even documentaries are
finally starting to delve into it now, but it was
never really addressed in the past. Is like what do
you do when the bad guy is somebody you care about?
And like most movies in the past, I've always glossed
over that. This is one of the earliest examples of like, Okay,

(01:03:34):
yeah he's a killer, he's still my brother. I'm gonna igin.
This kid has never it never crosses his mind that
he should turn his brother in, Like you know what
I mean, Like, that's his older brother, that's his hero.
And there's there's moments in the film where like like
at one point his brother does catch him in his
room and he like yells at him, and the kid
gets like scared because he knows his brother's a killer.

(01:03:55):
But then when everything calms down, he's like, look, you
can come in my room and listen to music. I
just need you to ask first, and like I'm sorry
I yelled at you and all that. And there's a
kid that at one point, the kid is like this
is the Steve. I like, like, why can't this be
the Steve that's around all the time, you know what
I mean? And it's even towards the end when the
dad starts to become abusive and the older brother is
stepping in and defending the kid, and you can see like, yeah,

(01:04:19):
like there really is a good relationship there. It's just
fucked up because one of these people is a horrible monster,
but he's not a horrible monster to his little brother,
right with the majority of this film, and that's that's
a very complicated thing. And I think like as a
metaphor for most people, are never going to find out
your older brother is a monster. But most people when

(01:04:39):
you're a kid do have a hero, whether it's your dad,
your brother, an uncle whoever, right, a favorite teacher, and
then at some point you're going to find out in
life that they are perfect. Right, They have issues there,
you know what I mean. Maybe they're terrible for you
know what I mean, but that doesn't mean they were
terrible to you. And so it is it is something

(01:05:00):
that almost everyone has to go through at some point
in time, right. And it's like if you ever meet
adults who like their dad is still their hero, it
seems weird because you should have figured out your dad
it's not perfect somewhere along the way, you know what
I mean, right, And it's so it's it's one of
those things where it's like it's it's discussing in a
way real life by filtering it through this fantastical story,

(01:05:26):
which is always interesting, right. And I think it's especially
because it's not a movie that's obviously made for horror fans,
even if you think of it as a drama film,
it's made for horror fans. So they set up these
characters that horror fans are going to relate to.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
You know, Yeah, that's such a good movie. I saw
it originally when how was that a horror convention? Yeah,
they had a booth set up and then the movie
was playing, and so I went to one of the
screenings of it, and as soon as the credits were done,

(01:06:01):
I walked out onto the floor be lined up right
over to their booth and bought a DVD copy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:06:07):
I was like, fuck, yes, yeah, it's it's just anyways, Yeah,
it's It can be a difficult movie to watch because
it does have a lot of extreme gore in it
and stuff, but it's there's something profound about discussing again,
discussing real life through these horrific.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Circumstances in a way that I think is very interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Yeah. And then, speaking of movies that I saw screening
of at a festival and then immediately ran out and
bought my DVD copy because it was so good, I
rewatched one of my all time favorites, which is Lightning Bug,
which I'm sure I've talked about before.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
You have it. I still haven't watched it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
You should watch it, I it is. It's a difficult
movie to find. It turns out the website I had
to watch it through is not in English, but the
movie the movie was, but the name of the website
had letters in it that I did not recognize.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Why did you just go grab your dvd?

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Oh yeah, thanks Brian. That's nice to bring that up anyways. Yeah,
I mean, I I'm sure that longtime listeners of the
podcast have heard me praise this film in the past.
I will do it again. It is like, having not
watched it in a while because my DVD copy is gone.

(01:07:35):
It's so good and it's just it's just about a
kid growing up in a small town who just wants
to be a make up special effects guy in the
horror industry, and meanwhile he's getting protested by the local
church because they think he's fucking devil worshiper and stuff. Yeah,
and for like, for those of us who grew up

(01:07:57):
in an era where you know, you would get called
satanic for watching horror movies and you'd be like, what
are you talking about. It's just a movie, Maron, you know,
It's it's something that's very relatable. There's like maybe my
favorite character in the whole movie is like there's this
old man that hires him to like make monster effects

(01:08:17):
for like a haunted house at Halloween time. He's I'm
gonna put it. He's like real rednecky, Southern US type guy,
but he sees something in this kid and he's like, yeah,
like what you're doing is At one point he says like,
you know, you've got a talent. It's a weird one,
but but you should probably pursue it, like you're into it,

(01:08:41):
and you know, he's like, he's very supportive in a
town where nobody else is being supportive, and it's it's
a really nice relationship between the two of them, is
really well done, and it is that thing where it's
like these two guys that are completely different, but the
older guy is being sort of like, yeah, like everyone
else is discouraging you from this, but you clearly don't
belong in this town. You should probably not. There's like

(01:09:04):
the key the running joke is that the stepdad character
wants him to get a job with a chicken plant,
and he's like, you probably don't belong in a chicken plant.
You probably you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
So anyways, which, by the way, you can get a
new copy of this on Amazon on DVD for like sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Bucks, can you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
Yeah, so you may need it since I know it
is one of your favorite movies. Yeah, and it's unavailable
anywhere else, so.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Yeah, I should probably buy a new copy of it.
Then next time I want to watch it, I can
just watch it because.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
I thought I had found it on archive dot org.
But it's just the trailer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Yeah, sorry, it's weird. This is also, by the way,
fucking Hollywood is so stupid because here's like a really
good movie that not a lot of people have seen,
so make it available. Like why isn't it just available?
And like, the funny thing is when I googled it
and did like the like you know, Lightning Bug full movie,
and I got the notice from like Google that it's like, oh,

(01:10:03):
a bunch of these have been taken down due to
copyright concerns. It's like, so you're preventing it from being
seen for free, but also not making it available any
other way except for a DVD. I just just fucking
put it on YouTube and monetize it. I don't know
anything stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
This one guy, there's one guy on Amazon I would
disagree with you. He says, horrible movie one star.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Fuck that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
And then this other one by a guy named Sick
Daddy titled his review where is Laura Prepawn? I waited
twenty minutes for the story to get good, but it
lost me when Halloween arrives shortly after Christmas? Is that true? No?

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Well, there are there are some time jumps in the movie,
but they're like they're obvious time jumps because there is
like a but.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Fuck those people.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Yeah, like there's a like I think the Christmas scene
is like a montage scene where it's like, literally that
is the time jump. Like we have him applying for
the job to get the to build the monsters for
the Haunted House, doesn't get it. Follow through to the
next year he does get it, so we have like
a montage in the middle that includes a Christmas scene. No,

(01:11:22):
that guy's an idiots, stupid people I'm losing patients for.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
So yeah, I don't disagree with that. Do you watch
anything else?

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
I did because we're recording late. That left me with
a free evening and I watched it. I used it
because I'm a really good at time management. So I
used my entire free evening to watch a movie called
The Forest from nineteen eighty two with the tagline. The
tagline is Daddy's Gone a hunting Oh no. The other

(01:11:55):
tagline is if you go down to the woods today,
you might never get out alive. All right, Yeah, two
couples go in the woods. There's a guy out there,
he's killing them. There's these mysterious children that are warning
the people about the guy that's going to kill them.
You guys aren't gonna believe this. Ghost children. The big

(01:12:19):
reveal comes that their ghost children, and I was like, oh,
that was a mystery. I get they were obviously ghost
children this whole time. So there are some of the
violence is fun eighties violence, but it's one of those
movies that takes way too long to get going, so

(01:12:40):
I don't know. It's free on YouTube. Fast forward through
the first half hour. Just you don't even have to
really fast forward. He just pulled a little bar across. Yeah.
At the beginning is like it's bad. I almost turned
it off with like they're doing this setup of these
two couples are gonna go The whole idea is these
two couples are going camp. The girls go up in

(01:13:01):
one car. The guy's car breaks down, so they're late
getting there, and that's how they get separated, and they
have separate encounters with this killer guy and stuff, and
you're like, okay, whatever, like when blah blah blah, right,
but it's just so poorly done where you're like and
then it also suffers from the same thing that Flesh
Eaters suffered from, where there's they're carrying these backpacks that

(01:13:22):
just don't have nearly enough stuff in them, like you
can just like did the dialogue say they're going camping
for six nights and that's the backpack they're bringing. And
then later they're setting up a tent and I'm like,
that tent doesn't fit in that backpack. I don't know
you got it there? Where'd you guys put your food?
None of you are carrying food or a water bottle?
What do you plan to eat when you get there?

(01:13:44):
So that might be nitpicky, but it might be that's
the type of movie it is. So but then you
get one like fun, really fun scene where so the
two men stumble into the cave where this killer lives
and he's just getting he's literally I guess spoiler alert.

(01:14:05):
He's got a chair set up and like a fire
with like a spit roast over it, and he's cooking
up part of one of the women for himself to eat,
and the men walk in and they don't they don't
know that's what he's cooking, so they're like talking to
him and it's one of their wives on the thing,
which is fun for me, probably not for them, but

(01:14:27):
so it's like we get the flashback. They're like, how
did you come to live in a cave? And it's
just basically his wife kept cheating on him until he
eventually snapped and murdered him, her and the guy that
she was with. But the scene is really fun to
look back on because it's like this guy, he's like,
he walks in on his wife in bed with somebody.
He's like, who the hell is this? And she's like,

(01:14:48):
he's here to fix the the water heater and the
guy's like refrigerator and she's like, he's here to fix
the refrigerator. But they're in bed together. I guess if
that's the difference. And then we he finally chases the
guy down, he kills him using this like absurd saw
that there's no reason you would have at your home,
Like maybe if you were if you ran a saw
mill or something, you would have one, but there's no

(01:15:10):
reason why you'd have it there, but he just like
kind of pulls his body onto it as it's going,
and the kills are fun. He kills the wife and
then we get the big reveal with the ghost children
is that he brought his kids to live with them
in the woods and eventually they got sick of it
and killed themselves. So now they're ghost kids warning future victims.

(01:15:31):
We don't see them kill themselves. That's probably a flaw
in the film too. We should watch The Children Suicide
on screen.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
I probably I'd.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Probably give it a couple extra stars from my book,
But you know, what are you gonna do. You gotta
watch the movie they made, not the movie you wish
they made. So that's it for me. Anyway. That movie's
not good. I don't recommend it if anyone's asking. Some
of the kills are fun, but they take away too

(01:16:02):
long to get to Did you watch anything Prime?

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
I did not watch any movies this week. I did
start watching The Institute, which is an MGM plus show.
I don't even know why we have HIMGM plus. It's
owned by Amazon. Now, can we just fold it all
in the Amazon Prime so I can watch shit without
having to have one of my friends download them all
for me and put them on his plex.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Okay, see here. MGM is an add on to Amazon Prime.

Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
I'm sure I could do it up here too, but
I'm not paying Amazon even more money like that. So
this is an adaptation of the Stephen King book, which
is sort of him going back to that conspiracy theory
military type stuff. The book came out about six years

(01:16:54):
ago and it deals with an organization very much the
shop from Firestarter, and they're collecting kids that seem to
show telepathic abilities and doing weird experiments with them, and
so this this story is very much a kid who

(01:17:16):
gets swept up and wakes up in the facility and
he's like, how the fuck did I get here? And
then you know, it just deals with sort of the
experiments they're running and what they wanted to do while
he's planning on escaping the entire time and just having
to find, you know, the right time to whatever. I'm

(01:17:37):
only two episodes in from what I remember, because I
read the book right when it came out. When I
remember it seems like it's pretty faithful adaptation so far,
so we'll see, uh see how it goes. It wasn't
like one of my one of the book wasn't like
one of my favorites of his or anything, but you know,
it's kind of a Stephen King take on X Men

(01:17:59):
a little bit, So yeah, why not.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Sounds like it has potential but doesn't sound like you
can tell us it's good or not yet.

Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
So yeah, I mean it's fine, Like so far, it's
not blowing me away, but I'm just like, yeah, I do.
This does seem to be following the book from what
I remember, but the book, like I don't even remember
how the book ends, so it wasn't super memorable. So
we'll see. But I think it's from the same people
that did that show from that I was a big

(01:18:29):
fan of. I'm now eagerly awaiting the next season of
so hopefully they get done filming that soon.

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
I don't know, decent enough so far. We'll see if
it sticks the landing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Here's a brief glimpse of some of the truly fine
pictures we've schedules in the near future.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Next week, we're continuing our Return and Living Dead theme.
This is gonna be Tom Matthews week, so we're gonna
be watching Return of Living Dead too. Is Tom Matthews
returns from the first movie to the second movie playing
a completely different character.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Is that true? I was wondering how he came back.
I couldn't remember.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
There's a bunch of actors that are from the first
movie that play brand new characters.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
That doesn't make any sense at all.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
From what I remember. The whole like they just it
seems like the whole movie just pretends the first movie
didn't happen. But it's very weird, like it's a whole
new zombie outbreak and a whole new situation and new
characters and whatever else. So all right, A lot of
times as I've watched it, but I remember being like, oh,
I'm not a big fan of this one. We'll see.

(01:19:36):
But of course, the other big Tom Matthews horror movie
you got to team it up with. It's probably Thirteenth
Part six Jason Lives. Yeah, so why would you not
watch that movie because that's one of the better Friday
thirteenth movies.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Oh, that's an interesting debate we'll probably end up having
next week. Okay, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying
it's worth a discussion. That's all.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
The first Zombie Jason movie can say zombie Jason.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Yeah, I agree with that. That's a debate that we
no longer need to have. Remember, there was a period
of time where people would argue whether it was the
first zombie Jason or not. Then if you ever actually
sit and watch the movies in a row, you're like,
he'll billy Jason, hill billy Jason. He'll zombie Jason clearly.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
Yeah, you get to see Jason change sizes because they
recast him after shooting the first couple of scenes.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
That's not important.

Speaker 5 (01:20:36):
That's that's him growing in power after it becomes a zombie.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Oh listen, it is. It is a guy in a mask,
and therefore casting is unimportant. That is Hollywood's official position.
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
I like that they tried that with Freddy in the
second movie and they're like, oh, we fucked up. Somebody
get Robert ing alone on the phone quick.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
I mean the idea that you would recast Freddy is
so absurd, Like, I would love it if there was
a single Jason that lasted throughout the whole series. But Freddy,
I mean, come.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
On, yeah, if you watch the second one, it's the
Freddy during the shower scene where he kills the high
school coach. That's when they tried the other stunt man,
and they're like, oh no, we fucked up. Quick, somebody
call them see if he's available.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Do you want to? You know what else they fucked
up was that entire movie by you know, not writing
a Night Mayndalm Street script for it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
So that's also true.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
That's probably one of their bigger mistakes was just inserting
Freddy to a random movie and pretending that that was
a Friday a Night Renald Street movie.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
And the worst thing is it's really like, on its own,
it's good. It's just a bad Friday the thirteenth movie. Yeah, No,
not Friday the thirteenth.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Yeah. On it just needs to be I don't know,
it just needs to be a standalone thing, I guess.
And it's not. So so are you guys gonna like
go through Tom Matthews' tolmography and watch other things help

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you prepare for next week as well?

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
Or probably not?

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Has he done anything else?

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
He was in the Friday thirteenth video game re uh
re playing Tommy Jarvis again.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
He was in a couple of Friday thirteenth fan films too.
A pretty good career. Isn't that one that was alright?
Ever Hike Alone or whatever? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Right, I don't like fan films. I watched like the
official new official one that they did recently, and it's
not good. I don't know who they got to interact it,
but I'm just like, is this the Friday thirteen they're
making soon? Because this is bad. It turns out the
whole thing it's just a commercial for Angry Orchard anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Yeah, yeah, I've chosen not to watch it because I
knew it was a commercial Frankry Orchard anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:23:13):
Yeah, I actually want to watch it a little bit
more now that I know it's just a commercial.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Even at the beginning, they're like sponsored by Angry Orchard,
and then you watch it, everybody's drinking an Angry Orchard.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
I'm just imagining like at some point Jason just stops
Less's mask, takes the zip of that cool smooth Orchard.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Pulls a George Candy from Return of the Attack to
Kullered Tomatoes. They're having a small horror convention here in
town this weekend. I want to go to that. They're big,
they're big guests, they're big, big guests for this. This
is only the second year they've done it. It's a

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pretty small convention. The big guests this year though, is
Ari Lehman, the very first Jason from the first Friday
Thirteenth movie.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
But like the Kid one. That's the guy that was
the Kid one.

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
Yeah, baby baby, who has built his entire career off
that one roll because he has a metal band called
First Jason.

Speaker 5 (01:24:22):
No, that is sad.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
Yeah, that's upsetting.

Speaker 5 (01:24:26):
I don't like that. Take that memory away from me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
I don't want to know that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
I've interviewed him before. He's nice enough, but it's just like, dude,
like this has really been your whole life? Huh, just hey,
I was Jason. Hey man, he goes like every horror convention.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Of course, good good for him. That's why I see it.
Is that or a job you ever had? A job?

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Suck?

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
They do suck.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
One of my one of my coworkers actually this week
just he's not He's enormy and he just he've read
online the guy that played Alex Kittner gets like ten
grand a weekend to go to conventions, and he was
like really upset about it, and I'm like, I'm like,
you have no idea, don't go down that rabbit hole.

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And he's like apparently he like had a job for years,
like ran a restaurant, and then all of a sudden,
he just, you know, got to go do this. And
it's like yeah, yeah, like they all do it now,
like yep, And again, it's better than having a job.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
It's the career path for a lot of horror people. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
I don't. I just don't. I can't blame them for
doing it. It's a no brainer to me.

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
I mean, listen, if you charge a reasonable amount and
you aren't a dick to your fans at a convention, I.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Support them.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
Yeah, I mean it's fine. It's just it's more of
the what the fuck am I doing with my life?
Why wasn't I in the horror movie in the eighties?

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
Yeah, find yourself getting mad at your parents for not
exploiting you when you were a child, because.

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
Uh I think I talked about this when I went
to Flashback last month that uh, like the casts from
like all three Terrifier movies were there and they were
insanely popular, and my friend told me, he's like, yeah,
word is that each one of those people make like
one hundred grand a weekend doing these things, and I'm like,

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what the fuck? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Bye?

Speaker 5 (01:26:26):
I told you guys. My older brother came to visit
yesterday and very literally we were talking about movies and
he said something about going to some thing and something
about Terrifier was there, and he goes, I don't get it,
and he goes, I saw it was mediocre, and I
was like, see, even the ormies get it. It's just
a fucking mediocre ass or movie.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
All right. People love it and I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
I mean, teach the Throne, that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
I just I don't know, Like I just baffled by
the whole concept.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
I'm that way with many many things in this world.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
So because it's not even like well it's younger generation,
I guess I just don't get them. But it's like
people my age, they're like, oh, the fucking Terrifire movies
and I'm like, yeah, I've watched like one and a
half and they were the first one was okay and
the second one was terrible. But whatever. I'm sure people
would say the same thing about Oh no they wouldn't,

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because Monsters Squad's great, so fuck them.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
Everybody says bad things about Monster Squad has real issues, right, You're.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
Only allowed to complain about one thing about Monster Squad,
and that is the use of majoratives.

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
Except for the one where she calls everybody chicken shit
because they're all scared of Frankenstein.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
Yeah, chicken chips.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
Fine, though we do that one. We could drop the
the f slurs that we have.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
But that's it, the languages of its day. It's accurate
how we spoke back then. It's good that we don't
speak that way anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
Also true, and if they don't acknowledge that somehow, even
though it was the eighties and he was dressed up
as a fifties greaser, Rudy was still the most badass
person on the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
God, I thought he was so cool.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
I still don't get it wearing penny loafers. But even
now I still watch it. I don't like that kid's badass.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Because he's mini Fonsie. That's why.

Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
Making bullets.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
He tells the brother from Wondering Ears to eat the
candy bar. Then he just smorshed on the ground and
he's like, but a j and he's like, hey, eat it.
We'll call it a day. Like that's the coolest guy ever.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
This goes to his middle shop classroom with nothing but
forks and knives and comes out with bullets.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Good for him, fucking turns table legs and the giant
steaks for his bow and arrow.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
Sure, I'm in the goddamn club, aren't I The sequel
where he's canceled for taking pictures of that girl with
ut her consent.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
But the thing is, we have to find out that
he became like a senator or something in like twenty fifteen,
and now he's in trouble because she just came forward.
She's like, back in the eighties, I found out he
took pictures of me from a treehouse.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
And then he's like, I regret nothing, and you're like,
fuck a j goddamn it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Nah, he's still cool. Takes off his suit coat in
the middle of the Senate and puts his leather jacket on,
and you're like, ah, come.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
On, puts the sunglasses on, has a cigarette dangling out
of his mouth.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
Horace kicks up when a door yells are canceled shot.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
And then he has to testify before Congress, and he's like,
you're on her. I would like to point out that
she very much said she was a virgin and it
turns out she was not, So I stand by my
actions of taking naked pictures over her through the window
he closed, and everybody's like, you're right.

Speaker 5 (01:30:10):
Jesus, you just you just had to remind me that
there's more problematic things in the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
What about like a side quill where we find out
about Steve and why he doesn't count. That's the real
question is, oh, what Steve from Found is the Steve
from Monster Squad.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
God damn it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
He was trying to be part of the Monster Squad.
And then they're like, no, you don't count. How is it?

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
How does that make a movie filled with actual monsters
so much darker?

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
The movie where Dragon that calls a little girl a
bitch and somehow that's still the darker part of it. No,
I need to watch Monster Squad. See that cheered me up.
Put me on a better movie. Talking about Monster Squad.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Now you'd be tired. Tomorrow's just stay up all night
watch a Monster Squad.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
Though I saw a picture online and I don't, I
don't it's probably a photo shot. But I saw a picture,
like a photograph of Stephen King wearing a red shirt
that said mansa Squad rules on it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
I want that to be real.

Speaker 4 (01:31:18):
And I'm like, I don't know if that's real or not.
I want to pretend it is, though.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
It's probably fake, but yeah, in.

Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
My mind it's real.

Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
Like the five thousand memes of Jim Carrey supporting every
random cause on the planet.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, pictures of uh, everybody holding up like
oh look Keanu Reeves, he's holding up the T shirt
that supports blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (01:31:44):
The Kiana Reeves once are weird too, because several of them.
You're like, uh, the very little bit I know about
Kianu Reeves is that he would be pretty opposed to
that thing that you're.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
It's so weird that they just make up fake causes
for celebrities to be in charge of. Now it's like, eh.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
Mhm, it's about Man Squad.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Again, all right, but wolf Man had got no nerds.

Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
Kick him there anyway, wolf Man has got nerds.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
I saw the most unfortunate picture someone posted, Uh, they
were watching Marshall Squad and they had the subtitles on
subs titles changed the phrase to wolf Man's gotten nuts.
Oh on ex they were like, whoever was in charge
of these subtitles fuck.

Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
You yeah not not okay.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Yeah, not cool bro, not cool little. It's the one
thing we had is ten year olds was that phrase.
Tried to take it away from us.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
See you had to make it upsetting again.

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
Remember when Rudy shoots the Mummy with an arrow and
then it unravels him.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
See you later, bad dad breath.

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