Silent Night, Bloody Night & Await Further Instructions

Merry Christmas! Since you've been good, your present this year is two Christmas-themed movies. First up, we question weird family dynamics and women with long brown hair in SILENT NIGHT, BLOODY NIGHT. Then, we completely understand why this guy doesn't enjoy his dysfunctional family Christmas in AWAIT FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS! Hope you all have some happy holidays!

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Speaker 4 (00:59):
It exactly so. I've seen that. I saw Verdigo once
on the big screen.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I don't think I've ever seen anything hitch Truck on
the big screen.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
I saw Psycho at a drive in, which was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
That'd be cool. A lot of these movies you're describing
are very good movies. I know, right, it's a controversial statement.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
I know, it's strange to go see the movies at
this theater.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I wish we had like a like a museum that
did a theater, like random shit like that around here. Yeah,
like our art house theater is pretty neat, but it's
not m h still just the.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
They have this Mark Elliott, who I think was maybe
involved with the writing of a Raging Bull question.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Mark, I don't know who wrote Bull off top move.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
He's somebody supposedly, and he's like somebody they have like
curate movies for us, and he does all these super
pretentious like recorded intros for it, which multiple times I'm
I lean over and tell the person I'm with, like
that that's wrong, that's not true, don't listen to what

(02:25):
he's saying. And so I'm just like I could do
his job. But like I once saw like Chinatown and
stuff within the past year there, which is nice. And
now that I'm looking at the entire, the entire listing
for the theater and not just like that special curated

(02:46):
section they are playing like It's a Wonderful Life sometime
this week and Titanic, but I'm not sitting through that
in the theater for a third time.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I controversial. I don't even think Titanic's a very good movie.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I don't. I don't either, That's why I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I've only seen it once and I had no interest
in going back watching it again. And it wasn't in theater.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
I went and saw it twice in the theater because
it was two different girls I wanted to go.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
See it, So I mean fair enough. I would have
gone for that reason as well.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Exactly January third, they're showing Jaws.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I'd go see Jazz again in the theater if I
had a chance.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, for like the fifteen hundredth time. Oh, January seventeenth,
Raiders of the Lost Arc.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I gotta see the Indiana Jones movies don't hold up
that well for me.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
I don't like him.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Not saying I don't like him, but I wouldn't be
excited to see him, and I like I never saw
the newest one. I've only seen part four once. I
think they kind of like by continuing to make them
kind of spoiled it where I'd like. Then I get
my hopes up for those old ones, and I don't
know that I don't know there were going to live
up to like my memory of them.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
So January twenty second Gladiator. Did you enjoy a Gladiator? Yeah?
I remember enjoying it, but it's.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Been a long time since I've bothered to watch.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Been about twenty years since I've seen it. Let's see
Temple of Doom and then uh, yeah, last Crusade. So
they're doing all of them this month at some point.
All right, well there's something to look forward to. Museum
theater being look forward to stuff you're looking forward to Christmas. Yeah,

(04:39):
it doesn't matter. The people in this movie were looking
forward to Christmas, but it turned out it was terrible.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
No, I didn't even know you were recording yet. I
thought we were still waiting for now.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Well, he just showed us speaking.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Of which I've arrived.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Look at that.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
That was perfect timing. I literally just did the segue
into the into the movies. Yeah, I would just like
Saint Nick Noah has arrived.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
I would have beat you. But so I was in
such a rush to get home. I left the restaurant,
got to the car, realized, oh my god, I had
to pee so bad, and I didn't go to the restroom.
So then I drove twenty five minutes home and just
took like a comically long pee.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
All right. Well, see, that's the kind of thing where
you just say I told you guys, i'd be a
few minutes late, and then you don't need to fill
us in with all the details.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
I think it's way more funny to tell you that
I was like standing there, going what the fuck has happened?
How am I still being?

Speaker 4 (05:37):
If you're if you were at the restaurant, why didn't
you just turn around and go to the bathroom?

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Because I parked it down the block, so like by
the time I had walked there, I'd already walked a
little ways.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
You're outside, just pee on a tree.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
I'm probably not going to pee in the parking lot
if the library it seems rude.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Homeless people do it.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Hey, I can't argue with that. Should have got a
little more homeless on it.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
You know what happened in Silent I bloody.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Knight, Jesus fucking Christ. Really you're gonna throw that one
at me? So this movie is thirty five minutes of
voiceover followed by thirty five minutes of boring nothing happening
in a movie, followed by thirty five minutes of boring voiceover, Hey.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Doug, what happened in SILENTI Bush?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
All right, So the movie opens up with a guy
who's on fire, and that's the birth of Noah found
really boring because he hates it when people are on fire.
Then there's a lot of that voiceover stuff that he
was talking about being boring. There's it takes about six
or seven minutes, but all that happens is the guy's
grandson inherits the his house, and then thirty years later

(07:03):
he shows back up in town because he's going to
sell it. There's a lot of people in this movie
that doesn't make a lot of sense, but people are
being killed off. Well, the grandkid is there trying to
sell the house, and then we are told, not shown,
that the grandfather was actually also the father of the boy,

(07:28):
and that he sent the kid away and had the
mom committed to a mental institution and then one day
he let all the other patients out and they killed
the mom. I think so he actually faked his own
death in that opening scene of the movie. And therefore
the grandfather is the one that's been killing other people
because he came back when he found out that the

(07:51):
house was for sale.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Honestly, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
And then keep in mind, all of this that I'm
saying is stuff that other characters read aloud in the movie.
It's not stuff we're shown. So and then well, I mean.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
You're kind of shown in a weird Sepia toned like
a some of it flashback thing.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, some of some of it we are shown that
way anyways. And then so then like the town sheriff
and the grandson who's trying to sell the house bill,
she just shoot each other, you know, weird, like all
of a sudden, there was like a Quentin Tarantino style
Mexican standoff and they both shoot each other. And then
that's when the grandfather who died in the opening scene

(08:37):
reveals himself. And then the girl who's in the movie,
who is the mayor's daughter, that's why she's important in
the movie. So she just picks up one of the
guns and shoots him, and then movie's over. And then
for some reason, they'd make a big deal out of
the fact that now the town is going to have
the house bulldozed, because somehow this was all the house's
fault and not the people.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Who did all the shit.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
The house was either don't you know.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I don't know why blaming the house at all. I
don't see and he can actually be nothing.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Because the voiceover at the beginning blamed the house, so
did a theme.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yes, all right, so I'm calling the movie out on
its bullshit right away because the guys on fire for
several minutes in the opening scene on camera, he collapses
in the snow, cut to the fucking the sheriff explaining

(09:29):
that the corner did an inquest and determined that he
died by burning, but that the burning was accidental. But
he's still alive somehow. Like eating, he didn't go missing
at the beginning of the movie, he didn't fall off
a cliff into a lake. And they're like, oh, we
never recovered the body. They said they examined the body

(09:49):
and determined to do he died like they said that
in dialogue.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
I do love. They also show like a newspaper clipping
and basically I'm paraphrasing, but the title of the article
is asking somebody questions he's dad fuck off?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
It's yeah, it's it's it's like somebody saw Gyellow And
they're like, we do that weird twist ending and they're
like what's the weirdest twist ending we could? What if
the guy from the beginning is not really dead but
he's clearly dead though, Ah, come on, twist ending, come on,
come as doesn't it This whole movie feels like somebody
watched it Yellow and they're like, some good kills spread through. Yeah,

(10:26):
we can do that. Weird twist ending that makes no
fucking sense. We can do that. Now, how are we
going to get the incest into this? What if we
just say that one character's grandfather is also his dad?
What if we just put that into dialogue.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
And hit me at guys in flashback?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
It's it's like, it is this weird americanized gyello that
is just I don't It's like it's like a kid
watched at Yellow and then tried to write a script
for one.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Well, it's partially that, and it feels like partially like
they filmed an hour and five minutes worth of material
and then when they went to edit, they're like, oh fuck,
we don't really have a movie here. And so then
they were like, well, let's let's let's film this other
flashback stuff. But you can't have a sound guy, so

(11:16):
we're not recording any sound, and we're gonna have to
have some people come in and just do some voiceovers
to explain some shit that we didn't film. And then
they slapped all that together and called it a movie. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
I feel like they were just like, hey, how do
we make just the worst fucking movie? Like, what what
can we do to make this movie a little bit shittier.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I liked that there was one guy in the background
that I was like, you know what we should do.
We should have entirely too many characters. Let's make the
relationships really complicated and confusing. So like, there's a lawyer
that shows up and he's gonna sell the property, so
he's staying at the property while he tries to make
the sale. That's a normal enough thing by movie standards, okay,
And he brought us this asistant with him. But his

(12:01):
assistant is also his girlfriend. So there's this weird moment
in this movie where he like sends her out to
get dinner, but he like she comes back with like
a romantic meal, and it's like, okay, because he sent
his assistant out to get dinner, but it's his girlfriend
that comes back to sit and meet with him. But
they're the same person, and it's like, what is going

(12:21):
It doesn't make any sense when you're watching it, because
there's not like a plot where the fact that he's
like cheating on his wife with his secretary or something matters.
It's just they're just like, now, let's have this character
who doesn't really matter plot wise, He's just there to
take an axe, but let's make it give him this
unnecessarily complicated thing. And then like we have the mayor
who is like negotiating the deal to buy this house

(12:44):
on behalf of the town, and we could just have
him in the movie, but no, we'll just have him
like drive to the next town to go to the
bank and be gone the entire movie, so that when
the guys selling the house comes back, he'll now be
hooking up with the mayor's daughter. That's who he'll mightically
be spending the rest of the movie with, because in
movie logic, if you can't find someone, you just go

(13:06):
to their kid's house and knock on the tour and
be like, you do your dad's job since he's not here.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Well, I mean, I guess, I don't know. Parts of
this were hard to follow because I feel like there
was three different women in this movie that all look
exactly the same. There's long brown hair, and I hope
you can figure it out.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I think I may have thought those were all the
same person because the mayor's daughter had the long brown hair.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Who else did well? The girl that shows up to
take over the operator stuff for the for the one
lady who's like the town operator. And then doesn't the
assistant have long brown hair? Doesn't she get killed? Yeah,
in the mansion, but.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
The same too. It's amazing that they found that many
actors that you're like, all these people look related.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
It's and then I don't, like, yeah, I don't know
it's I mean, I know this was filmed in like
nineteen seventy, but there is plot points for this dude
who's the grandson doesn't seem to know where to go,
so he just randomly goes to random people's houses. Yeah,

(14:24):
and she's and this lady's like who are you? And
he's like, oh, I'm so and so whatever. The last
name is.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
My name is Billy.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah, And then it's like, oh, why don't you go
to the house that you own? And he's like, oh,
I don't have a key and it's locked. Oh well,
why don't you go to the police station, maybe they
can help you. I did. There's nobody there.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
She just lets him in.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah, you're just the random person. And then she's like, well,
let me see an ID because I don't trust you,
and he gives her an ID and she's like, this
is good enough. We're besties now.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
It's so it's again like it's so fucking weird, because
there's also a moment in this where she's like, how'd
you get here? And he's like, I drove here in
my lawyer's car, and she's like, what do you mean.
He's like, well, I went to the house and the
lawyer wasn't there, so I took his car. Like, you
just stole your own lawyer's car.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Well, listen, because you didn't on the.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Door and no one answered, so you're like, fucking I'm
picking your car.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Then he didn't have a key to the house, but
he does carry a key to the lawyer's car.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Okay, I believe he looks in the car and the
key is still just in there.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
How how did he get to the house. Wouldn't he
if he needs to drive to get away from the house.
Wouldn't you have needed to drive to get to the house.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
He walked their rainbow style.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Brian Denny, he picked him up.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Listen, you can't say things like that, Brian, because if
this movie is so fucking random that maybe maybe it's
gonna happened. Oh, I like I tried to watch I've
tried to watch this movie in the past, like because
I used to own a DVD copy that I bought
for like two dollar or somewhere, and I've never been
able to make it through that. Now like that I
forced myself to watch it. I'm like, well, no, wonder

(16:06):
I never made it through.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Like it's yeah, this is this is actually my second
watch through because I think we did this movie for
the Fat Kid way back in the day. And while
on second rewatches a lot of the times, I grow
more fond of dog shit movies. This one is just
equally as dog shit as I thought it was the

(16:27):
first though.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
It's just it's it's amazing because it's it's like a
pre slasher slasher right before they knew the formulas and stuff.
But the idea is there of like you borrow from
Giallo heavily, and you've got a group of people in
an area and every now and again someone's killed off
and stuff, and the kills are okay, Like the first
guy is on fire, although I guess he technically doesn't

(16:49):
die from the fire. And then the people that get
chopped up with the axe, that's pretty good. You know,
some guy gets hit by a car. You're like, that's
all right. The car was also on fire like fire
in this movie, although maybe the car was fine after
We're not sure because that's what happened to the dude.
But it's like, all that's fine, and you're like, but
somehow this movie still manages to be boring with that

(17:12):
many okay scenes in it, like.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
The car fake it's death, But like then, like.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Why is there a subplot about the lady who works
at like the phone exchange and has to do that
old timey thing where you unplug one phone and plug
it into the other, Like I don't know, I don't
know what that's called, but like the old the old
timey phone where if you call and you just tell
them who you want to talk to, and she unplugs
a wire and plugs it in somewhere else switchboard switchboard,
Yeah okay, yeah, but like why is there a subplot

(17:41):
about her? What?

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Why is that in this At the very end they
mentioned she's one of the crazy people who broke out
of the house or whatever. Well that the grandfather let out, Yeah,
something like that.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
So is the grandfather taking revenge for the people that
he let out of the house?

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Uh, the people that killed that kids, the grandson's mom. Okay,
because didn't they kill her in the house?

Speaker 3 (18:11):
And then yeah they did.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Yeah, But like he's how I took it anyway.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I took it as he let them out, That's what
I was to understand.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Well, no, he let out the crazy people, but there
were other people in the house.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Some of the people in the house weren't crazy, correct.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Weren't they Some of them doctors or whatever.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Well, like one of them was the mayor for some reason,
like he was there. I don't. Again, this movie does not,
like make any attempt to make anything fucking makes sense.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
No.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
The only saving grace of this movie was that when
the credits were coming up at the beginning, I saw
that it was a Canon movie, and I was like,
fuck yeah, Cannon, And then I looked up up and
this was the very first movie that Cannon distributed.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah, we learned quickly that your optimism was not justified.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
It's like it is a weird thing because you look
at this movie and you're like, it's it's bad. It's
just a bad movie, you know, like somebody tried to
americanize a Giallo and they just couldn't. But it is
like it is Cannon's first film, I think, like Lloyd
Kaufman is one of the producers on it or something

(19:30):
like that. And then it's like some of the people, like,
I guess those flashback scenes that are in that weird
not quite color, those are people from like Andy Warhol's
whatever they call it, the Factory or whatever. That's like
it's those people like and it's like, so there's a
lot of like weird tie ins to this movie. And

(19:50):
then you watch it and it's like, oh, but the
plot is explained through people reading newspapers and shoty flashbacks
and none of it really makes sense, and there's too
many characters that don't we don't need or care about
people's behavior makes no sense, and you're like this is
frustrating and annoying. Why isn't this better?

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Yeah, it took us people. It took a lot of
very talented people to make this dog shit movie. It's
just it's it's boring.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
And where does it get off being boring when it's
about all this stuff? You know what I mean? How
can a movie with this many moving parts be boring?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
You're right.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Lloyd Kaufman is an associate producer on this. Yeah, and
the makeup department had a makeup artist with the best
name ever, with the name Pat Pizza. That's pretty good,
spelled exactly like you would imagined that.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Well, that's not I don't I feel like somebody changed
their name to that. I don't think that was something
they were born with.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
You know who I want to have movie they've ever
worked on?

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Pat Pizza the movie.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
This movie is not It was not great. I feel
like there's a couple interesting scenes, I say with a shrug,
and it's just like the Giallo stuff where the dude's
just cold calling people and whispering into the phone, creepy
with his black gloves, and that doesn't really lead to anything.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
And it doesn't really the biggest problem and that this
isn't a fair criticism of the film, but like it's
nineteen seventy two, two years before Black Christmas, and you're like, oh.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Shot at a shot at nineteen seventy.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, so you're like, you're making these phone calls in that,
but I'm my brain is immediately comparing to Black Christmas,
and I'm like, these are slightly less intimidating than those
phone calls.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
I can tell you that that It does lead to
what I consider to be maybe the best thing in
the entire movie. And that's when they're like, why do
you sound weird? And it's like, I'm sick, this is
very funny in the middle of a menacing coat asked

(22:09):
the questions go.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Well, it's really weird too, because he starts the guy
making the call, which is very clearly like an adult
male voice, is referring to himself as Marianne, and everyone's like,
nobody brings up the fact that Marianne is a woman's
name and it's an adult man's voice, Like those are different?

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Was that not what's her face's name? Did I did?
I completely misread that and think he was talking to
one of the ladies. Oh, her name was? Her name
was Diane.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
I think Marianne was the mom who like the mom
of or slash daughter slash lover of those two guys.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
It's gonna say all questions that you can answer if
this movie wasn't don't ship.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Oh no, no, no, okay, I think I gotta figure
it out. So Diane was the sheriff's daughter. She was
like the main final girl.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
She has the long brown hair.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
She has the long brown hair, which helps nothing. I
think the insinuation is supposed to be that she is
actually the grandfather's daughter. What he at the end, he
doesn't he come out and say I'm your father whatever?
And then they show a flashback to her as like

(23:32):
a child running around the swinging on the swing and
running around the sounds made up.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I thought he was the I thought he was the
father of the guy, not the father of the girl.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Oh, I think I took it out.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Guy kind of has long brown hair too, though, so
you could be getting confused again.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
But Marianne is listed as marian Butler, age fifteen.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, I think that's the mom that got impregnated by
her dad and then put it in the same asylum
and then murdered by apparently the lady from the switchboard
according to you. Oh okay, it's my understanding.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
For I was getting ready to say where you're still
talking about this dog shit ass movie?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Is he diffusing? I don't understand what happened.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
But the thing that's amazing about this movie and this
is like, I don't if it's if it was on purpose,
then they pull it off. Me. To have this much
dialogue explaining what went on and have it still be
confusing is fascinating, Like as a work of art, to
talk this much and still not explain yourself fascinating.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
That's what the film. Here's the thing. Doesn't this feel
like an avant garde like a student film kind of
thing in a weird way? Like it just you're like,
what is this bullshit? Like somebody's making a bullshit ass
movie right now?

Speaker 3 (25:02):
You see. I don't like it again. I think it's
somebody who trying to make it Giallow and not understanding
how Giello's work, so they think it's supposed to make
no sense, where Giallo's Gellos make sense. They're just unpredictable, right,
Like it's like Killer was always that guy. It's like,
you know, but that guy isn't somebody who died on
screen earlier in the film.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Is fucking yeah exactly.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
You remember that flashback to the hospital earlier. Well, the
doctor that we never put on screen is the killer.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
That would Bello. That's how Giallo's work, and that's what
these guys didn't understand. Good, frustrating. This is why you
needed a Canadian to bring Giallo's to the North American audience.
By the way, that's how you do it, right.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
So I actually watched the US on DVD as well,
because it was on one of those like fifty chilling
movie packs or whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah. I think that's probably what I had back in
the day.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah, so I got to at least like, oh, this
pack of movies that I've never watched, I get to
pull a DVD out of it and actually put it
into the DVD player.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Was it in a pack with the grave Digger in
his pals?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Now, this pack was pretty impressive. Had stuff that had
was like Kathy's Curse or something, which is a movie.
I mean, the movie's not great, but like seven put
it out. This is like one of those packs that's
like here's a bunch of like crazy movies from the

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late seventies early eighties that you've probably never heard of.
And they were doing it like before all these boutique
labels started scooping all those up. So I was looking
through the list and I'm like, oh, there's actually some
shit on here that's gotten like real like remastered editions
from all these boutique labels. I thought that was pretty fun.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Syndrome's release of Solid Night Blood Bloody Night with a
commentary track disc called why doesn't this have tits in it?

Speaker 4 (27:21):
It is one of the reasons I didn't watch it
at work. I'm like, well, I don't know if there's
nudity in it, and it's from the seventies, so maybe
I better hold off. Turns out unfounded fear I.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Was gonna say, and for a movie named My Bloody Night,
just not a lot of blood.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
A lot of blood in that one scene where the
guy gets the guy or the guy the lawyer and
one of the long haired Brunett girls get chopped up
in that bed, there's a lot of blood in that scene.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Was that the thing? Did she get chopped up? And
then like on Munchies, they each piece just formed into
a new, new brown haired lady.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I don't think this whole thing that you're telling me,
you just took over the switchboard. I still don't. I
didn't even notice that happening.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Weirdly. That stupid fucking thing you just said makes this
movie makes so much more sense if it's just a
weird munchies thing where blonde girls or brunette girls just
turn into new brunette girls.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
The first thing she says is amigo, jesus, he know it.
Do you want to tell us about a Wait further instructions.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Yeah, so wait further instructions. A young British man who
has strained relations with his family takes his Indian dissent
girlfriend home for Christmas. His family are just fucking garbage,
ass shitty racists, just pretty awful, and they plan to

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sneak out the next day after a big blow up,
but they wake up and they are all sealed inside
the house by a thing that they keep saying is
a metal ball, but looks like it's actually just coax
cable like ribs, which makes more sense. Later, the TV
starts to play emergency instructions. Their toxic masculine grandfather, father,

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and brother in law proceed to just do shit. The
fuck up. It caused just nothing but problems by following
every instruction to the tea, people start to die and dad,
despite the fact that all evidence is showing that every
time he makes a decision, it's the wrong decision. Continues

(29:50):
to go, I am a man and the dad of
this house, and you almost do the fucking stupid, dumb
shit that the TV says. And then it turns out
that TV's are actually like monster creatures. We get some
we get some mell razory body horror Dad being puppeted
by TV cable monster and that it ends with the

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coax cables burning the flesh from the dead sister and
revealing her baby, who is now watching the TV as
it plays a children's program and says, wush it met
a lot of real thick ass metaphors in this movie.
They didn't know. There's no subtlety to the storytelling here.

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TV is bad. There's also some weird anti vax messages
at one point in this movie, which is very strange
in the rest of the movie.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Well, I gonna say this movie is interesting because I
feel like whatever stance on that kind of stuff you
want to take, you can see what the argument is
going to be from that side.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, it's interesting because it's on the one hand, it's oh,
if you take the vaccines, they'll kill you. But on
the other hand, it's everybody should shut up and listen
to the only medical professional here, and when they don't,
somebody immediately dies.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
So yeah, it was well, it was very interesting the
fact that there's the I don't it's just very strange.
It's the don't take the vaccine just because you're told
to take the vaccine. But at the same time there's
the medical professionals, the one telling you not to take
the vaccine, and they're like, should listen to the medical professional,

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which is opposite of what was going on in the
world at that point, where it was all the doctors
were going take the fucking vaccine.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
This is twenty eighteen, don't forget, it's before this problem.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Well that's that's not entirely true, because the exact scene
problem happened with the Spanish flu epidemic, almost to like
a shocking level of the history repeating itself.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I think I think the message if there's a message here,
and I'm not convinced the movie wanted there to be
a message. I think you've got the people who are
saying the TV said to do this, and the medical
doctor giving a logical, rational explanation as to why that's
not a good idea using the information she has as
a professional, you know, and them going, but the TV said,

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and she's going, people will die if you listen to
the TV instead of listening to the doctors. And then
because she's not saying all vaccines are bad, she's saying
those those those needles look dirty, don't those needles in.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Those are dirty open needles. Yeah, the argument and them
going shut up and take it.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
And and also those like came down the chimney, like
if you're going to get vaccines, don't get them down
the chimney. Go to like a doctor again, right, Like
there's like there's there's lots there to be saying, like
like there's lots there to make the argument of, like
you should listen to the doctor, not just because she's
a doctor, but also because she can rationally and logically
explain her position as opposed to everyone else who is

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just going the TV said, do it, so you do
it right, and I do.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
I do love they don't listen to her, and then
immediately Grandpa has a seizure, throws up, we're black gunk.
It dies.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
That's awesome, by the way, was really good.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Yeah. Yeah, but the all the I should say that
I was kind of making fun of the messaging in
the movie with the body horror stuff in the movie's great,
yeah uh, but he dies and then they go, yeah,
that's what we just said. And of course, like I said,
the dad, who's just the fucking doucheiest douche of old
douchedom he's horrible. Uh It's like, no, he's just old.

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He died from a different thing. And it's like he
died from throwing up black goo and having a seizure
ten seconds after a shot. You know, yeah, he is again,
he is just the worst part of humanity. And had
I not if I did not live in current day America, right,

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my major complaint about this movie would be, look at
how fucking unrealistic these fucking characters are. No one would do.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
That, and it's like.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
Yeah, yeah, they constantly yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, yeah, the idea that like, okay, the experts said
to do this, and I refuse to listen, And there
were negative consequences, and now I'm making up other reasons
for those consequences as opposed to just acknowledging that it's
my fault. Yeah, that's that's how people handle it, especially
this guy, and like, and it's not just him, like,
because you've also got then you've got the mom who's

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like like the only genuinely good person in this entire family.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
But also then like puts her head in the sand
and try she refuses, She refuses.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
To stand up to him because she just doesn't want
the fighting. So it's like she knows what's going on
is wrong, but she won't help. And it's like and
the family's all turning on the people who are actually
saying the right thing all the time.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Then the biggest who's like, look, I'm not being racist,
I'm just saying I.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
Mean, after finding out the brother's girlfriend is a doctor
and of Idian descent, she's very good. Like almost the
next line she says, Oh, that's good to hear, because
you know, we're always worried about all these foreign doctors.
And it's like Jesus fucking Christ.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yes, yeah. The grandfather and the sister at the beginning
when they start leaning into the racism, I'm just like,
holy fuck, I guess you can do stuff in British
films you can't do here. Holy shit.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
I mean, even a little ways of the dinner scene,
the grandpa straight up basically just looks at her and
he's like, yeah, your people are ruining the world.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, it's like this country was better and then before
insert British racism came here and it's just like, uh,
I get and I guess this was being made.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
This is Brexit time.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm like, I don't
know the exact timing, but that that would have been
a conversation going on with young people going, hey, like,
this person's kind and pretty and a doctor and I
like her, and they're going, yeah, but skin's are wrong colors,
so got to get her out.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Looking she's looking real brown? Why she's so brown over there?

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Fuck yeah I didn't. I you know, when I watched
this movie, I did not think it was going to
lead to this level of political commentary. I didn't think
of it that way. And as soon as you guys
started saying something, I'm like, God, damn it, you make
me sad about the movie because you're right.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
I mean, what do you mean you didn't think about
it being political commentary? Like I said, it is not thin.
You're right, but but I don't know Jesus Christ and
the messaging of like the TV is evil and it's
manipulating you. It's like, yeah, I fucking get it. Fucking chill.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
No, I don't agree with the chill because you cannot
say that enough because the people who need to hear
that are looking at their phones getting other bad messages
from their phones between looking up at the TV to
get the bad messages from the TV. So you've got
to say it lots and lots of times.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
I suppose. But the problem is those people didn't learn
anything from this movie. No, No, which renders the messaging
of this movie pointless because the people who need to
hear the message can't hear the message.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
The people who need to hear the message are the
dad who are going to just change the change the
goalpost and once they're proven wrong.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
And like I said, it's weird that in this movie
you could take a stance on either side and see
what you want to see in this movie a little bit,
because you could one way say, uh, oh, the TV
they're telling us to take these these vaccinations and we did,
and look what happened. TV's evil, And then it's like, yeah,

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but you actually ignored, like you know, professionals and stuff,
and it's like yeah, but TV told us, But then
like you could turn it around and then just be like, well,
what are we supposed to do everything the TV tells us?
And it's like, well no, But like if you're on
either side of whichever argument, like you could sort of

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see like, oh shit, people can use this movie as
an argument for whatever their viewpoint is, and it seems
like all the subtexts for both of them is there.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
No, Yeah, I kind of agree with that. Yeah, at
the end of the day, I guess though, like the
answer of listen to the doctor never turns out to
be proven wrong in this movie, which is, yeah, when
it comes to medical stuff, listen to the medical profession.
It just seems like such a non controversial advice.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Yeah, But then also look at fucking twenty twenty and
it's like, oh, a guy who's worked in medicine his
entire life and is in charge of the health department
is saying, hey, we got these vaccinations, you should take them,
and people are like, what the fuck.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Does he know? Yeah, let me check with Joe Rogan.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
And the fact that this movie was made before all
that really happened is interesting.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, it's very very prescient.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
It actually makes me nervous that the sick motherfuckers that
are ruining the world watch this and went, yeah that work.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
No, I mean, I don't think this movie was that influential,
but yeah, yes, the idea that a lot of this
stuff I don't know.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Gross. I do wish we would have got a lot more.
So the end of the movie where we get horrible
TV monsters with their gross coax fingers all over the place.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Stuff was so cool.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Yeah, it's it's very uh, I don't know, in the
vein of like Tatsuo the Iron Man, you know that
that kind of like body horror imagery, and man, it's
so fucking good, and I'm like, it's there's so little
of it in the movie, and I feel like, I
don't know. I think the problem is that might fall
into the same pit traps is something like Hell Razor,

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where instinctively I keep going, yeah, we should get more,
but maybe if you got more it would be less effective.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
I think there's there's an element of that too. I
think the biggest thing is that the film is relatively
low budget, and I don't think they could have done
a lot more and still had to look this cool,
Like you have to make your decisions of how cool
do you want it to look compared to how much
of it do you want?

Speaker 5 (41:01):
By the way, shockingly solid cast on this movie, Like
I almost all that. You know, it's British actors, but
all of them recognizable for the most part, other than
the younger people.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Yeah. That old guy that's in everything that's from like,
he's like the Sam Jackson of Britain. I don't know
his name, but he's fucking everything he's in like the
cornetto trilogies and Harry Potter, like anything that they make
in England. He's just there.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Technically he played a doctor on Doctor Who?

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Did he all right? I Mean I knew he was
in Doctor Who because they make that in England, but
I've never seen it, so I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
You played the first doctor on like one where they
the first doctor comes back. There is he's been dead
for like fifty years.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
There is there's a moment in the film when the
the are two more heroic characters are discussing leaving and
I love that. She's like, yeah, but what do we do?
And he goes, listen, they're pieces of shit. Let's just
go home. We'll order a Turkey pizza and we'll watch
The Doctor Who Christmas Special and I was like, see

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that's real. Love is.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Well okay, So as much as we got caught up
in the political elements of it, and we obviously will
probably drift back to the body or relevance of it,
those opening scenes when when he shows up and there's
all that tension in the room and dad the dad
isn't being nice and the grandfather starts being racist, and

(42:36):
he's like the fuck this, why are we even here?
We should just leave, like we're not. It is so effective,
I kid you not. I like, at one point I
paused the movie and I almost canceled going to see
my family at Christmas because I'm like, what if this
happens there? And I'm like, you know what I mean,
because it's like, I don't I come from a family
where it's very possible that fights could break out at Christmas,

(42:57):
and I'm like, I don't know if I want to
risk being in this situation after watching this family go
through it, and like, you know, I was just like
I can't. But it was so effective that I was
like really caught up in the drama of it and
like getting angry at the people who are being racist
and stuff. Knowing full well it's a movie obviously, I'm
sitting in my basement watching it, but I was like,
holy shit, like what are they doing.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Yeah, everybody just being like passive aggressive at each other.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, and the whole thing, and like like everybody's racist
to this girl. And then he's like, he's like, you guys,
owe her apology. And the parents are like, you should
apologize to your sister for yelling at her, and he's like,
but she's the one being racist.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
It's like oh.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I was like, oh that family dynamic, it just it
hit and I was like, oh my god, this whole
thing of.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
Like but the racism.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Yeah, like like we're all willing to look past that again,
we're all being the mom with the head in the
sand and looking past that. And I just like, we're
ignoring the flaws in our own people. Because she's new,
we're allowed to say whatever we want to her. I
was like, oh fuck, I hate these people.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Yeah. I was of everything in this movie. So you're
generally behind our hero characters, right. The only time I
was hitting a little bit of a wall with them
was towards the point that they hit the dinner scene
and they were like, Eh, we'll just go to bed
and we'll sneak out tomorrow or whatever.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
And I'm like, no, just leave, just fucking leave.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Yeah, Listen, I've had some shitty girlfriends in my life.
If my parents talked to one of those shitty shitty
girlfriends as badly as they spoke to his doctor girlfriend, right,
I would have fucking been done. Like there would been
no discussion. I would be like, you don't fucking talk

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to a person this way.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
But there is the fact that this is a movie too, right,
and you need them to still be in the house
in the morning. Oh sure, so I yeah, Like, look,
if you wanted to get real nitpicky, could there have
been some life of dialogue about why they couldn't leave
that night. Oh, you know, we need gas and we
can't get it until the morning, so we're gonna have
to stay here, but we'll leave first thing when the

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gas station. Something like that, you know what I mean, Like, well, sure,
or you could have done that.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
But or I mean you could have had the setup
be that they were doing the more insidious milder racism,
you know what I mean, to set it up and
then they get worse as the movie progresses, but they
decide they came in fucking hard and media, and it
was like, whoa the thing is.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
This whole thing is an hour and a half. And
at one point we have the dad tying the son
to a chair and torturing him. We have the girl
locked in a room. We have the last fifteen minutes
as dedicated to the actual monsters of the movie. You know,
you got a lot to get through in a short
period of time, and they do fast track it. And
that's anytime you do a movie like this, even something

(45:54):
as good as like The Mist, you take a group
of people and you put them in there and you
need them all to turn on each other. They have
to be turning on each other real quick or else
you're not going to get them. You're not going to
get it done in the timeframe of a movie. So
it is it is accelerated compared to what might happen
in real life, but it's you know, it's necessary for

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the storytelling.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Even though we were sort of against the TV entity
or whatever you want to call it, pretty much from
the jump, did we did we feel like our hero
kind of missed the point when the TV told everybody
that the food was poisoned. Well, I feel like that
was it was really early, so we hadn't. I mean,

(46:42):
since you know, we're watching a movie, we kind of
figure out immediately like, oh no, none of this is good.
But the TV is supposed to be like an emergency
broadcast is in you know, never mind the fact that
it's telling you stuff that's happening inside your house that
nobody could know. But it's like, hey, the food is poisoned.
And the dad's like, all right, well we've got to

(47:02):
throw all this food out. And our hero is like,
but you can't. That's our food. And I'm just like,
do you want to take the chance that it's not
poisoned after somebody tells you it's poisoned?

Speaker 5 (47:13):
Well, but here's the thing. If if you were told
that the food was poisoned, now, eating the food probably
a bad idea, but you do not know how long
you're going to be locked in that house, which means
actually throwing it away is insane because you would keep
it in case of desperation, because poisoned food is better
than starving to death.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Well, and that's I think that's fair the way, Like,
I see what you're saying, Brian, Yeah, But I think
the way it's meant to come across in the film
is he's not saying don't get rid of the food,
or we should still eat the food. He's saying, calm down,
let's talk about this. Let's be rational, you know, let's
let's let's think this through. And the dad is going, nope,

(47:59):
TV said this. I do this because you know, yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
Isn't I'm trying to remember, because isn't there a moment
where they got to like throw away the bottled water
or something and he goes he didn't say anything about
the water.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Like yeah, And I think the dad then doesn't throw
out the water because it didn't say water, right, yeah, yeah,
and then yeah, And I think that is I think
culturally we might be missing it there where. I think
there is this kind of appeal to authority element of
British culture where a certain generation of people will just
do what they're told, and the younger generation maybe is

(48:32):
saying no to that.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
I I mean, that's it's literally the message of the
Lord of the Rings. Do what your betters tell you.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Yeah, and you know, yeah, I thought it was interesting that. Yeah.
I mean, no, it does make a point you could
have just saved it. But yeah, yeah, how our hero
immediately it was just like, don't throw away the food.
I'm like, but TV said it was poisoned.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Yeah, but again, I think the the idea of like,
so even if you believe this TV is the government
sending you messages, you're just gonna believe everything they say,
and you're gonna risk us all dying without even stopping
to think for yourself. I think that's I think that's
the message you're supposed to get from it. Is it

(49:19):
maybe done a little over the top in the movie,
and therefore it doesn't come across as clear that could
be that'd be a fair criticism.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting now that the point I was
trying to make earlier, now that I've thought about the
movie more, is like it's interesting because we get stuff like,
you know, they're like, hey, take these vaccines, and then
they throw them down the chimney, and they do and
someone dies, and so like a fucking maga person could

(49:47):
be like, see the TV said to take the vaccine,
the CNN told them to they should get vaccinated, and
somebody died because of it. See what the message of
this movie is, but then we get to the point
where it's like, Oh, somebody in your house is a
sleeper agent. Torture them and get information, and then you
can be like, oh, so Fox News is saying that

(50:08):
people in your family are the enemy and you're gonna
believe them. So weirdly, it just there is all sorts
of paranoia in this movie that comes, like, not even
from a specific side, but just however you want to
view this movie. I feel like there's weird stuff to
go online.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
I think some of that, too, is us projecting onto
this movie. For sure, the paranoia is intentional. The idea
that you know, some people are listening to one side
and some people listening to that's all intentional. I think
some of the political elements that we're adding to it are.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Oh, sure this is about living in today's world. Yeah,
this is about British.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
Shot and where I was. I'd have a hard time
believing that that political stuff was not very intgital.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Oh I'm sure it was, but I'm just thinking it
weirdly translates to a lot of shit that was going
on around that time. What did we think of the
weird TV god type thing? At the very end, like
eating away of the body and leaving the baby was

(51:19):
pretty rad.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
Yeah, I do. Like again the messaging is it like subtle,
but the whole thing where at the end he's like, oh,
it can't kill us, it's a parasite, it needs us,
and then it immediately kills him kind of a few
seconds later, and it's because it's like, no, it doesn't
need to because it'll just brainwash the next wave.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yeah, it's easier to brainwash the baby from the get
go than it is tough to convince adults. Is that
part of the messaging as well?

Speaker 5 (51:51):
Yeah? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Well, and the fact
that it's so obvious that it's a children's program, you
know what I mean, because it's got the the sparkly
Teletubby ship going on, and I mean that's pretty obviously.
Another most of the message of this movie is just hate.
Turn off the fucking TV occasionally. Yeah, And the fact

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that it's like you are feeding your children TV immediately
and constantly, and that's not good.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Remember when the when the teletuppies were promoting gay lifestyles,
Remember when that was something we worried about. Stuff of
you know, in.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Inky Winky Minky and Tanky getting freaky Dicky.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Some almost got a pink triangle on his head and
carries the purse. You know what that means?

Speaker 5 (52:45):
My good?

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Uh so what I guess? Just in general, how did
we feel about this movie? I rather enjoyed it. It's
a little tense to watch the times and like you said,
the mess I was just like twenty eighteen. This is
still far too relevant. I don't like it, but I
still like the movie, of course, that's whatever.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
Yeah, yeah, My only argument is I feel like the
movie would have been just as effective without them going
so fucking direct with a lot of it. You know
what I mean? A lot of this movie does feel
like speaking into the camera kind of messaging, which I
don't like. Sure, yeah, I don't know I but that's it.

(53:30):
It's a pretty mild complaint.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I think the movie's really good. Like I say, the
family drama at the beginning gets you really good. The
tension holds throughout the entire film. All the body horror
stuff at the end is really cool. The sort of
like we haven't mentioned, like when TV's are like taking
control of people. It's kind of Independence Day style by
like putting wires through them that come right out of

(53:53):
the mouth, and then they can control them and even
make them speak a little bit and stuff. I mean
it is it looks awesome.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
I'm assuming it's intentional. But the the dad, whenever he
gets coaxed, his look is so close to the doctor
in Hell Raiser two. I mean like real close, like
to the point of it has to be a reference.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
It could be somebody was a big Clive Barker fan
and they're.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Like, like, let's be honest, this is sort of a
Clide Barkery story, right, Like so you can see that argument.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Yeah, a lot less weird sexual charter. But yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
I was gonna say, Plus, if it was Clide Barker,
it probably would have been more well written, all right,
But that's not that's not a dig on this movie.
That's just that's it's fucking Clyde Barker.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
But yeah, like there's you can see the influence maybe there. Yeah,
I know. I think the sense of paranoia works in
this film. I think I think the tension between the
characters works. I think the racism works. It has that
part where you see the old man's ass for Noah,
it has, you know, everything you could really want in

(55:07):
a good like horror sci fi.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Film, he spends two minutes scrubbing his balls on screen.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
I was gonna ray say it was a little weird
that they didn't. Maybe the insinuation is that they had
a doctor there to tell them to dilute it. But
you know, if you put raw bleach on your skin,
that is not a good situation. That is, you're going
to damage yourself.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
No, I would assume that they made a concoction with
bleach and water to use, right.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
Yeah, But in a movie that's about blindly following orders,
I kind of was expecting somebody to fucking chemical burn
the verluin fuck out of themselves.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Remember when a US president asked if we could just
inject bleach into ourselves.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
To maybe he saw this movie. Maybe that's where you
get You guys want to blame shit on this movie.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
I'm not blaming shit on this movie. I think the
movie was very forward thinking and didn't realize it was
predicting part of the future and not making some fantastical story.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
That is what good sci fi does is tell of
a future that it's not supposed to know. Is there yet? Right?

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Speaker 4 (56:56):
Was everybody watched this last episode?

Speaker 5 (57:00):
Other than continuing my trek through Supernatural, I did start
watching Man Versus Baby, which is the sequel TV show
two Man Versus be Rowan Atkinson.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Oh, I don't even know what either one of those
shows are.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
He is a house sitter. In the first show, he
is house sitting and there's a bee that drives him
crazy and he destroys the entire place trying to get
rid of this bee.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
It's not a Mister Bean sketch, because that's very much
like a Mister Bean sketch.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
Well, I mean it's Ron Atkinson, now, that's what I'm saying.
He talks so less mister Beanish.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Than I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
Well, but in the sequel he's a much calmer, nicer person,
and in this case, he ends up with a baby
that he's taken care of and trying to like hide
a baby.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
It's really can we just like either elaborate or a
nicer way to say he ends up with the baby,
because that sounds pretty fucking creepy.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
Well, he just ends up with a baby. Like, so
somebody is supposed to drop off a baby to be
Baby Jesus at the school he's working at, and somebody
drops off a baby which he assumes is them, puts
in a manger, and then all of the teachers just
leave and leave this baby behind and go on Christmas break,

(58:27):
and then it turns out it wasn't the lady who
dropped off the baby. It was just a random person
who dropped a strange baby. And he keeps trying to
get basically the British version of DCFS to come pick
up the baby, and he's having a shit time of
getting it to happen. I didn't finish it because say, is.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
This a full length movie?

Speaker 5 (58:48):
It is a series, a series multiple episodes, yep, Jesus,
there's a lot going on. But I had to actually
take a break from it because so second hand to
anxiety is the thing I get and he keeps things
keep happening that I'm like, no, don't, don't do the thing.

(59:09):
It's gonna be awful. And then he does the thing,
and I'm like, it makes me feel sick. I can't
watch this anymore. And I had to. It was funny,
but it just too too much, too.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Much Anxiety's wife would not watch the Office because of
secondhand anxiety.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
Yeah, yeah, I have the same problem. I can only
watch it a little bit at a time. Too much
of Steve Carroll's character makes me like very literally need
to go to the restroom, like it's too much, going
to pee my pants. I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Yeah, fair enough, Like it's a compliment to them that
they do that to you.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's very good. It's not it's
not a condemnation of anything. It's just a thing that
I personally can't handle it. It just gets to me.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
No, I've reads that many times when watching.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Things like people getting paper cuts in horror movies. Somebody
can get chopped up, don't give a fuck. Somebody gets
a paper cut, Like it's so horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
What about when they do it for real, like on
the Jackass movies.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Oh, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Are they doing like paper cuts between their toes or something?
Oh god, yeah, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
One guy did it like across his lips, like he
was fucking judged from pet cemetery.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Yeah, I was gonna say, stop saying it out loud.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
The thing you wanted to do one on his eyeball
and they wouldn't let him.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Oh Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Oh, I have no problem with that. So it's just
idiots hurting themselves from entertainment. It's like, I don't care anymore.
You're dumb enough to do that. It's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
My problem with that kind of stuff is anything that
I have a frame of a reference to bothers me.
So a paper cut, I know what a paper cut's like.
So somebody getting a paper cut in a movie, I'm like, dah.
But somebody getting like axed in the balls. I've never
taken a fucking axe, let alone to my balls. I
have no idea what the fuck happens.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
So I don't give a fag idea what happens.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Well, I mean, I know enough to know that it
would suck, but I don't. I don't have a sense
memory of it. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yeah? I guess yeah, well, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
That's that's that's all. I watched it, and.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
I didn't watch it. How what'd you watch, Devin?

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Well, I watched a few things trying to get into
my Christmas horror mood. Track down something called The Dorm
that Dropped Blood.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
I saw that you were watching that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
From nineteen eighty two. It's a highly original concept. A
group of people stay behind and they are isolated over
Christmas break and then someone is killing them believe it
or not. And you're not going to believe this, but like,
there's like this creepy, weird guy and they all think
it's him, but later it turns out not to be him.

(01:02:00):
What way?

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
Wow? A misdirection that should have some kind of a name.
Maybe a fish, Yeah, some kind.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
This movie has the kind of brilliant like foreshadowing in
it where it's like some guy spends several minutes yelling
into the camera about how he can't find his drill.
Then a few minutes later, guess where the drill turns up?
Someone's damn head. I don't know. It's it's a slasher
from nineteen eighty two. Is it good?

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Do I like it? Yep? Like it's it's an objectively
bad film where every now and again there's a decent
kill and you know that's sometimes that's all it takes.
So it's like I say, it's an unoriginal concept. It's

(01:02:53):
not particularly well executed, but you know whatever. It's also
called The Dorm That Dripped Blood. So if you watch
it and you think you're gonna watch a good movie,
that's absurd. Why would you do that? Yeah, I don't know.
That's my review of The Dorm That Drew Blood is watching.
You watch a movie with that title, you should know

(01:03:14):
what you're gonna get, and you get it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
So you know what you're getting into.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
It's better than Silent Night, Bloody Night, worse than Silent Night,
Deadly Night. How about that? Also?

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
I feel like I sense a theme from some of
your watches this week.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Though, because the next three movies I watched are all
Silent Night, Deadly Night. Yeah, because they remade that movie twice,
and I'm like, I just watch them all, so you're
I'm playing yep, it's yeah, it's an interesting experience watching

(01:03:51):
all three. So the eighty four film, the twenty twelve film,
and the new one which is in theaters now, they
are all very much products of their era, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
And it's so I've seen two of the three, so
contemplating going to see the new one maybe tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Yeah, don't spoiler alert, all right, So, like that was
the one I watched first because I like, I don't know,
I just heard there was a remake of Silent Deadly Night,
so I went and watch it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
This is what you do? That was like, well, I'll go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Yeah, it was it. I didn't you know what I mean.
It was funny because like the next day someone was like, oh,
I would have gone to that with you, and I
was like, oh, it didn't even occur to me to
I just saw there's a remake of Silent, and it didn't.
I just instinctively got up the couch, got in the
car when went to didn't no thought went into it whatsoever.

(01:04:52):
And anyways, all right, I have to kind of spoil
it to.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
It's It's fine. I think I could figure out, like
what the movie's about.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
You can spoil see that's the thing you might not though,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
So the movie opens up, Family visits grandpa, Grandpa dies,
family gets stopped by Santa on the way home. Santa
Murder's mom.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
And dad right sounds for mine.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Yeah, so we all know that's happening.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
You know that old tale from the Sea.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Cut to like modern day Billy is traveling around and
he's like, I don't know, this movie would be better
if it was called The Advent Calendar Killnder because he
kills one person a day throughout December leading up to Christmas.
But he's got this voice in his head that tells
him who to kill, and the voice somehow naturally knows

(01:05:45):
who the bad people are. So this is very dexter
like in the sense that there's like a subconscious voice
talking to him, he responds to it, answers to it,
and it is being like that's the guy you've got
to kill all over there. And that's very different from
the other film. So whereas the other film was like

(01:06:06):
he's the bad guy, this almost turns him into a
vigilante who's killing only the people who are like getting
away with horrible crimes, which is kind of annoying. I guess, like,
I guess, I gotta go spoil. So it ends up
being at that voice in his head is the guy
the Santa that kill his parents, And through Flashblacks we

(01:06:29):
learned we learned that in a in a very silent night,
bloody night type way, the mom was able to kill
the Santa at the same time as the Santa was
killing the mom, and then the kid kind of walked
up and there was like a weird like supernatural body
transference thing where the soul of that Santa jumped into

(01:06:50):
the brain of this guy and has now been talking
to him this whole time.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Supernatural.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Yeah, so this whole time, like he talking to this
other voice. And it's like, I don't know why there's
a supernatural element to this. I don't know why he's
killing bad guys. Like he's not supposed to be a hero.
This is just a stupid slasher. Just make a stupid slasher, right,
and and it's just it's stuff like that. It's just frustrating,

(01:07:17):
and it ends up being like him like going on
like a mission to save some kids from one of
these guys later in the movie, and you're like, what, No,
he's the slasher. He should be killing people. And the
movie ends with a cop killing him, and the next
movie ends with him magically still being alive and he
kills some more people. Don't you guys know how this
works yet? And it's so it's just it's really frustrating.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
Technically in the part too.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
Brother, I know, I know, I know, so hold on,
let me just let me just rewind this. So this
is Silent Night, Deadly Night, but the Punisher.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Mixed with Dexter. Yeah, pictures Silent Night, Deadly Night with
Deck mixed with Dexter. Because the talking voice and the
guiding him who to go kill, minus any kind of
investigation or anything like that, because he just the voice
just magically knows who the bad people are, like picks
them out of a crowd.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
What a weird remake of a movie.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Here's here's the most frustrating part of this whole thing too.
It's very slow paced and like methodical through most of it.
And then when we get our flashback and we're like,
it's explaining what's going on, we get these weird cutaways to, like,
as he's explaining to another character what's been going on
this whole time, all the cut away to these cool kills,
many of which are references to kills from the original films,

(01:08:36):
And I'm like, that's the movie I want to watch
right there, you're doing it montage, Like I want him
to be doing all those kills. I don't want those
to be a montage of him explaining that he used
to do kills. And it's just it's just that. And
then another thing about this movie, like all that aside,
it's also it's very much a second screen movie, and

(01:08:58):
I hate I know what that means. And that's what
I mean by like, so there's a scene in this
movie you're like, I don't know if you've heard he
kills a bunch of Nazis, right, yes, And in your
head you're like, okay, if you're making a slasher and
you just want to where he chops a whole room
full of people, make him Nazis, I guess, But it's
it's just so dumb, like he literally he's like at
like like he he meets the girl that works the

(01:09:21):
store like in the original, and they end up going
to like her nephew's hockey game or something, and the
voice is like, that lady back there, you got to
have kill her later. So he borrows a car and
he's gonna go kill that lady. And he gets there
and she just happens to be a Nazi at a
Nazi Christmas party, and then he kills the entire room
full of Nazis and then that's just it. It's never mentioned again,

(01:09:42):
and it's just because they want the scene of him
doing that. But it's like, what, what the fuck just happened?
Like why was that from a completely different movie? Like
it's a whole movie unto itself, right.

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
Like he Nazi Christmas Party. It should just be a
movie like Somebody's showing up and like Nazis Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
A movie about like a vigilante who tracks someone down
and finds out they're part of a Nazi organization, and
the climax is him breaking into the Nazi Christmas party
and killing everybody. I'd watch that, but just throwing that
into the middle of this movie doesn't make any sense, right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
No, it just made a modern day exploitation.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
Maybe yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
But then there's like there's call it Antifa. There's this
there's this fucking element to this movie where like we
have a scene in this movie where they're at like
the nephew's hockey practice and the girl like storms onto
the ice and like beats up one of the kids
that's fighting her nephew, and then we get this whole

(01:10:44):
like subplot about how she has these like violent outbursts,
and you think, well, that's gonna matter later in the movie,
and you you still keep thinking that right up till
the end, and you're like, oh, sworn that was gonna matter.
And I think here's the thing. More spoilers, but like
at the end of the movie, Billy is killed and

(01:11:06):
jumps into her right, sure, and so now she's going
to be the new person going forward killing and her
voice is Billy's voice instead of the voice of the
old center, right, so kind of moving on, and you're like, okay,
Like that's how that's how it would work. I guess
I don't know. But then in my head, I'm like,

(01:11:27):
I think they want us to think, Okay, she has
these violent outbursts, that's why she's killing people at the end.
But I'm like, no, there's no connection there whatsoever. She's
killing the people at the end because Billy's telling her
to because they're bad people. It has nothing to do
with her violent outbursts. Those are just irrelevant plot points
that they came up with, and it's just it's so,
I know, man.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
Yeah, I was mildly interested in watching it, but what
you've just described is turned me off. And I was
already not on a level playing field for this movie
because the guy that plays Billy was in that Kills movie.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Yeah. Yeah, so the guy doing the weird supernatural thing
where he takes over from the serial killer is also
the fucking Cory.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
It was funny because I'm watching the movie and I
found myself getting mad at the guy and I couldn't
quite figure out why. And it wasn't until like after
I got out of the theater, as I went on
IMDb and clicked on it when it's fucking Cory, that's
why I'm mad at him.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
But I wasn't mad franchises.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
I wasn't mad at him when he was in The Monkey.
So it turns out if the movie's good enough, I
won't be mad at him. But if it just goes
back to being like, it was really frustrating watching this
movie as a fan of the original Silent Night, Deadly Night.
But I think it's just it's not a well made film.
Even if you're not that so, even if all the
stuff about the way they've changed the lore and stuff like,

(01:12:51):
there's also just the fact that like in a in
a Silent Night, Bloody Night style way, a lot of
everything I just told you is revealed like as the
end of the film, and so for most of the film,
you don't know what's going on. You don't know what
that voice is in your head. You're like, is this
another Venom film? I don't understand, you know what I mean?
M So I didn't really I didn't really like it.

(01:13:20):
Yeah anyways, sorry, sorry. Then like I literally went home
and went to bed, woke up in the morning and
went I was like still mad. So I just turned
on my TV and I just laid in bed and
watched the original Silent Night Dead Late Night. That made
me a lot happier because that's just a movie about
a guy with an axe killing people, naughty, naughty, and

(01:13:40):
he kills people. Naughty and he kills people. That's pretty good.
I like it when that happens. So I don't know,
I don't know. I don't know if there's much more
to say about it, Like it's you know, oh, I
enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
It's just like with an killing people do with an
axe killing people. Oh, lenea Quigley naked, She's dead.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
There is an interesting thing in this movie because it
is sort of in so many of the movies we
talk about on this podcast. There's that weird incest incident,
but this guy basically starts killing people because he saw
his mom's boobs. That's that was like the images. So
it's like the opposite of incests. It's like, ah, so

(01:14:29):
I don't know, it's a lot of fun. I like
it a lot. It's it's it's what a good slasher
should be. It's just a it's violence at the beginning.
We all know violence is coming at the end kind
of a gradual build up, and then just over the
top violence for the last hour or whatever it is

(01:14:50):
in a half an hour, and it's like, yeah, perfect
nailed it. So that one that made me happy. But
the problem was like when I finished watching it, it
was still only like nine thirty in the morning or something.
It's like, well, I gotta find another version of some
night Night to watch. And that's what I just kind
of transitioned immediately into the twenty twelve one, which is

(01:15:12):
which is a Malcolm McDowell film, where he is clearly
on set for a lot longer than I expected him
to be. That's like, why is he a main character?
I thought he was going to have like three scenes
that were all in the same room.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
I think this was the beginning of his Uh where
are you shooting?

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
I don't think I've been there before. Okay, And that's
like what it takes to convince him to do a movie.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Yeah, well, I'm glad he did this one. He's actually
pretty good in it. He plays like the sheriff in
this town, basically a killer Santa shows up and that's
It's not really a remake when you think about it
from that perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
I remember watching it and not enjoying it, but I
don't remember why. Maybe time rewatch.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
It's very much a product of its era once again,
where it is like the idea is that this town
is like getting dirtier and grimier ever since, like the
mill closed, and now that there's no mill, people are
like people are like making porn at the local hotel
because they've got to find a way to make money.
And then Santa kills him and you're like, that's that

(01:16:23):
is so twenty twelve. Why are you doing that? And
then they're like, ey's gonna shove that naked lady into
that wood chipper. So I don't know if I really care, Well,
you're doing it there is a several minute long scene
where he's shoving naked lady into a wood chipper. And
it's the thing about the twenty twelve era people from
it was just after like the torture porn era had ended,

(01:16:46):
and they were trying to put fun back into these
types of movies. So it's sort of this mixed sensibility.
It's torture porn meets eighties like fun gore and yeah,
there's a lot of this. Santa runs around with like
a flamethrower, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Yeah, remember a flame thrower at one point, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
It's yeah, and he has it for a while and
it's it's pretty fun, like it's I don't know it. Again,
none of these films are high art, but this one is, like,
it's fun to watch. There's no silly supernatural elements, there's
no unnecessarily complicated storylines. It's just the guy killing people

(01:17:25):
because he's mad at them. Is he mad at them
for good reasons? No, of course not. So, I don't
know what you want. Donald Log's in the movie. I
like that guy Forgot plays like a Santa with a
bad attitude. That's the That's the other thing that's very
kind of twenty twelve. About this movie to me is

(01:17:45):
like Santa comes to town and he's killing people for
like being naughty. But of course it's like Santa Festival
that weekend, so there's a whole bunch of Santas around,
so they can't find out which one's the right.

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
One is the real It's like, it's such a stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Twenty twelve I need. It's actually pretty fun, like because
there's at one point there's like one of the cops
is in a bar and she's like, there's like a
guy there, and she's like, this guy's fitting all the
description of being the sand over looking for and she
calls it in but she's like he's too fucking big,
Like I just got to hang out at this bar,
and I hope he doesn't kill anybody until backup arrives.

(01:18:23):
It turns out he's just a mean drunk guy. He's
not even the Killer Sanda. Of course, none of the
guys are there at the Killer Santas. But yeah, I
don't know, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
It's I might need to rewatch that one, and then
I still need to watch part five. Not because I'm
expecting it to be a good movie, but it's just
it's the only one I haven't seen from the original franchise,
so I just need to do it, get it the
overwest so I never have to think about it again.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Roughly a year ago, I discussed Part five in the podcast,
and I think I enjoyed it a lot more than
I expected to. I again, don't go into it assuming
it's a good movie. That's not what I'm saying. Like
some of these movies, you have to learn to turn
your brain off and have a good time. And there's
nothing wrong with that. Just don't It's just the filmmakers

(01:19:14):
have to not turn their brains off and have a
good time when they're making it, because that's how you
get the newest version of the film.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
If you wanted yet another version of the original movie,
you could have just watched Part two.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Well, I wanted a different version of the movie, not
just a recap, but the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
Come on, it's got garbage Day in it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Garbage Day.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
I should put that on the soundboard.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
They make a garbage Day reference in the remake, by
the way, and the guy doesn't say it like that,
like the guys like put out the garbage and he goes,
what is a garbage day? And you're supposed to just
know that that's a reference. But I'm like, you should
have gone, what is it garbage that you should have
said it in a way that made it sound the
same another or flaw in that film. It's another reason
I didn't like it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
You you did save me from seeing it, because I
don't think I'm gonna watch it now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
It's the supernatural element to me is just unacceptable. I
don't know, maybe other people won't hate it as much
as I did, but I was just like, I was
pretty frustrated with it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
It's just one guy in to Sanda suit with an
axe killing people. That's all I need. I don't need
supernatural stuff, and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Don't again, don't the idea of turning him into like
a hero was frustrating. Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
Yeah, Like I was gonna say, you don't need to
do all of that, because can't we just remake the
great episode of uh Tells from the Crypt with the
creepy Santa Claus, because that's that's fucking real good.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
Yeah, it is good. There's one of the most episodes
of the series.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
So I'm trying to remember if I've seen the TV
series version, is the same version that shows up in
the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Uh, it's the same story, but it's a different version, right, yeah,
different the new film version of it. Larry Drake plays
the crazy Santa. He doesn't have a single line the
entire time. Well, it's the mom from the Goonies.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
All right. I mean I'm completely sold on that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
It's the very first episode they filmed, so it's got
it's this was the all right, We've got to prove
what we're planning on doing with this series. Sort of
energy behind it. That works pretty well.

Speaker 5 (01:21:34):
Do another rewatch it? Tals Tales from the Grip was
so fucking good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
M h. All right, so let's see. That's the only thing.
So I've only seen three versions of Silent Night Deadly
Night this week. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
And the other thing is I finished up. We talked
about Dexter last week. I finished it up nice. It's yeah,
it's it's not perfect, but it's a lot of fun.
There's a real fun joke at the end when he
so I guess spoiler alert, but if you've ever seen
Dexter before, you know it's gonna end with him killing
Peter Dinklach's character. It's really funny to me when he's

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got the body chopped up and put in bags and
he just is able to carry all the bags at once.
It was real fun.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
Do they do they make I'm not making more than
one trip to the car.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
No, No, it's it's played completely straight. And I think, like,
because there's like no reference to Peter Dinklach's height in
the entire like ten episodes of the show, and he's
in every episode, they don't bring it up. And then
that's the little thing at the end, and I'm like, good, guess,
so you guys know what you're doing here? Great? Thanks, Yeah,

(01:22:52):
I don't know. It's a it's a very different version
of Dexter than everything that's come before it. He's but
I got thinking about it, and I think Dexter is
just like the modern day Batman, right, Like he's this
super detective who's a vigilante running around different cities. And

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sometimes Batman's fighting weird obscure villains and sometimes he's fighting
you know, more straightforward dark criminals, and you just it
both can work, right, You can have you can have
Tim Burton's Batman and Krys Nolan's Batman. They can both
be enjoyable to watch and this is Batman compared to Yeah,

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John Lethga would be the chrys Nolan version, right, and
this is as long as they don't go Adam West,
I'm kind of fine with it. I think is where
I land on that. So it was it was a
lot of fun. The end. There's a little bit it's
a little bit too dumbed down for my taste, and
there's a little bit of there's some stuff thrown in

(01:23:57):
where I'm like, now that it's over, like Harrison has
this girlfriend character and you're like, Okay, that's fine, Like
there's nothing wrong with it, but it doesn't really play
out into anything the whole time other than like maybe
you can see he's behaving kind of like Dexter if
you wanted to dig deeper into it in that, but
I don't think it's really there, and you're like, okay,

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so there's there's that storyline, but we also know that
Dexter showed up in New York with like nothing and
suddenly he has all his like killing tools and stuff again.
And it's like, if you go back to those seasons
one through four where the show was really really good,
there be a discussion about how he got those and
how he was able to obtain those without the without

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getting caught and stuff right, And there's kind of like
a line of dialogue like, Oh, it's amazing what you
can order off the internet. It's like Dexter wouldn't. Dexter's
too smart to get killing implements delivered to himself, you
know what I mean? So how did he do it?

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
And it's like, come on, it's twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
Amazon, He's still the password to angels Amazon Prime.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
That's interesting because Angels like his big nemesis for the series.
I did think they did a pretty good job of
mixing the Angel storyline into the Prader storyline, like Prater
being Peter Dinklich's character. So you've got Dexter with these
like two different groups that he's dealing with throughout the season,

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and then they did a pretty job of mixing them
all together at the end and creating one storyline out
of it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
Yeah, it's not super awkward. There are times where you're
just like, al right, some of this stuff's a little convenient,
but it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of conveniences
that happen. It's a little bit too TV for me.
But but then you do get that real fun moment
where like they're tied like angels, like talking to Dinkla Chinese,
like showing to the picture and he's like, how do
you know this guy? And they're both using different names
to describe him because they both know him as different people,

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and you're like, oh, that's pretty fun. Like I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
I was happy to see Uma Thurman on this show.
I haven't really seen her much in a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
It's been so long since I saw her that I
didn't recognize her. It was like episode eight before I
realized that was Zuma Therman, which is weird. I guess
my question for you, Brian, what do you think about
the setup for going forward? It seems like we're kind
of going to get Dexter International.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
Next, right, maybe because I forgot what the.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Setup was, well, so I guess spoilery alert stuff, But
it's Dinklage is kind of obsessed with serial killers and
he likes to bring them together, and he's got all
these files on all these different serial killers from around
the world, and Dexter steals those.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
Files, right, that's right, so oh shit, he's got he's
got tabs on everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Now, Yeah, he could be gilling to like Paris and
ship next season Dexter Yeager. Yeah, I mean theoretically, like
he'd be traveling place to place killing these guys and
he's got all his proof.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
There's no time spent on that, right, and technically he
is back to just being Dexter Morgan. He's been cleared
of whatever and he's alive again.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
And yeah, the stuff about him being alive again is
way too glossed over, but yeah, theoretically he's alive again.
There's nobody suspects him of crimes. You know, all the
dead guys are dead guys. Now you could also, I
guess this is real spoilery. But with Angel being killed
off and with them bringing Joey Quinn into the storyline

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briefly this season, you could finally get Quinn chase down Dexter,
which is something a lot of us wanted in season seven.
It never happened, so you could you could go that way,
But we don't know that. We'll see what they do.
We know they're continuing this, right, and they're not continuing

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any of the others.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
I think Resurrection got picked up and the original Sin
got canceled. Yeah, which was the prequel series, so one
of the least one more. I thought one more that
would have been good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
Yeah, I actually agree with you. I wish there had
been more of that because I don't see why. I
don't see why both can't exist. I guess is what
it comes down to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Yeah, the guy they got to play young Dexter was
really good, Like I was shocked how good he played.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
The whole cast was really good, Like I couldn't could
not get my head around the how good the casting was.
And not like in a nobody seemed like they were
doing impressions kind of way.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
It was just the guy that played young Angel Batista.
It literally was like they used a daging ray on
the character on the actor. Yeah, his was just like,
holy fuck, you looked just like him. He sounded just
like him. Great.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Yeah, I really enjoyed that season. I think again, I've
said this before, but ever since they screwed up season
seven and eight so bad, my expectations for Dexter are
so much lower that the fact that these last, like
the up North one and the New York City one

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and the prequel, the fact that they're not terrible just
makes me happy. I'm just like, I mean, they've provided
us with a better ending than what we thought we
were going to get.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
So, yeah, you like Lumberjack Dexter.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
I didn't like season seven and eight that show, and
I loved that show when it was new, Like it
was just I got so frustrated and angry.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
Because seasons was season six the Doomsday Killer. It was
with the Colin Hanks, Yeah, James almost because I remember
enjoying them. They weren't like the strongest adversaries, but I
remember being like, well, this is mildly interesting because the

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season five one wasn't a huge fan of. But I
think that's a victim of you're not season four more
than anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
Yes, yeah, coming off of season four, it was like,
how are they going to compete with Lithgo? I like
Litgo his little cameo in this season.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
Yeah, he's looking real good though.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Yeah. Yeah, I think they're doing like a young Trinity
Killer show too, or they were talking about it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
Yeah, and that is gonna be the voiceover.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Yeah, and as a like as a voiceover, I think
it's fine, Like the fact that he's older won't matter.

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
Yeah, about old Liftgow Trinity killer in the retirement village.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
Well, it'll be hard. He's dead. Come on, I'll pay attention.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
M hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
I was getting ready to say, there's there's a thousand
reasons that things shouldn't have continued in this show, and
they just hand to wave it. I'm missing. They could
just hand wave it and be like, he's got a
twin brother, I'll see it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
He Well, unfortunately spoiler alert, they did that in this
episode in this season.

Speaker 5 (01:31:44):
Well, there we go, nailed it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
It was pretty fun when they did it in this season.
Of the way they did it was pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
Yeah. Uh spoiler alert if you haven't watched Dexter Resurrection,
but we've spoiled a lot already. But yeah, and I
know it doesn't really care about spoilers all that much,
but uh so one of the serial killers in the
serial killer group is played by David dsmalchen and he's
does it go by Gemini? Is that one of those?

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
And uh Dexter catches him, kills him, does the whole
thing chops him up? Is uh modus Operendi for part
of the season is burning them into the cinerator in
an abandoned building in New York. So he we watch him,
he kills him, chops him up, throws them in the incinerator,
and you're like, well, that's done. And then the next

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the next day, he meets up and he's like, oh,
we're just waiting on one more. And then a car
pulls up and David Desmalchen gets out, and that's the
cliffhanger for the episode. And I'm just like, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
It took me forever to figure it out.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
And then like, yeah, they pointed that in the next episode.
It's like Gemini, there's two of them. They're twin brothers,
and they didn't even tell Peter Dinklach's character. Nobody knew
there was two of them. It's brilliant, but it's a
very good reveal for the show.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
Yeah. I enjoyed that a lot. That it doesn't play
out into much.

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
But it's yeah, like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
The first storyline wise, but it's just a fun little thing.
And then you get the I believe it or not,
Dexter is able to take out the other twin as well.
Problem solved.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Yeah, does he I'm trying to remember, doesn't he like
shit talk the brother to him or something At one point.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
It basically lets him know that he killed his brother
and when that guy comes at him, he's able to
kill him in the fight.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
And yeah, there's basically the equivalent of Dexter leaning in
and be like, yeah, your your brother was a little bitch.
The David till Small's just like, what the fuck? Will
fucking kill you?

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
But I mean it'll I guess it plays out a
little bit because then that's when the Uma Thurman character
is like starting to question Dexter. That's one of the
reasons why Peter Dinklin is like, no, no, he's legit,
Like why how could he have gotten here? Like we
all saw the other guy attack him, Like, yeah, why
would he have put himself in that situation? If he
is and who he says he is or whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:34:25):
Hm.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
That was a good season, Yeah, it was. It was
a lot of fun. Again, very different from what's coming before.
And if you've got a Dexter purist in your life,
you might want to be careful talking to them about
this season. But if it's just yeah, if you're just
looking to have a good time and watched Dexter kill
some people.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
And yeah, it's I feel like the fun of it
is it's not dexter versus man. Some of them, you know,
we're serial killers and stuff, but this time it's dexter
versus very flammed, buoyant serial killers. Yeah, like they've all

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been assembled because they have a very big character, which
makes it a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
And they're they're all different, and they're all like having
them all in a room together. Because you've got like
Neil Patrick Harris playing a serial killer. You got Kristin
Ridder playing a serial killer. The dexter thinks he can
date because she thinks she has a code, and it
turns out her code is a lie, which is fun.
You have the guy from Modern Family. I don't know,

(01:35:29):
I don't know his name. I didn't really watch that show,
but he's like and he plays like a family man
who's like he's in New York and yet one point
when he's getting ready to leave New York, you see
him packing his bag and he's literally got like souvenirs
to take home to his kids. It's all right, that's
and then Petered English being the guy that like brings

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them all together and like just so we can hear
their stories and stuff, because he's fascinated by serial killers.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
He's a weird in his own right, So yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
I that whole Like those meetings where they're all around
the table together, you know, they're all like weirded out
by the Gemini guy because it's like because he's weird,
it's nice. He's David Jaskevich. Like he's creepy and weird.
That's who he is. So but yeah, I don't know,
like it's now I'm just back to having no Dexter

(01:36:22):
to watch and I'll be sad for a while.

Speaker 5 (01:36:24):
So yeah, you just got to reweb season four.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
Yeah, yeah, I like that. My girlfriend got I think
halfway into season six and she's just like I'm done,
and I'm like what She's like, Look, season four was it?
How was the top of the Mountain. I'm just not.
I pushed myself through season five. Season six isn't catching me.

Speaker 5 (01:36:49):
The worst thing is you try to like argue and
you're like that's yeah, that's right, but you.

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
Just got like two and a half more seasons to
go through and then he gets good again. She's like, yeah, exactly,
and I'm like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
The last time I did a rewatch. I stopped after
season four as well. So I've watched all the new
stuff since, but it's not I get it. I understand
why people think season four is so much better than
everything else. And I always tell people like, keep in
mind that when we were watching it live, like, there
was a several month break after season four before anything

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else happened, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:37:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
I would also casually point out that you should not
stop after season four because you should watch the first
episode of season five where you get to watch Dexter
like interact with the kids whose mom was just murdered,
because with that moment where he like it's his own kids,
by his own like step kids, and he's like, I'm
very sorry for your loss put their mom being murdered.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
And then those kids leave and we never mention them again.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Yeah, they just kind of go off with the grandparents.

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
Anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
No, Oh is it for me?

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
I didn't really watch much. I watched finished up Welcome
to Darry Season finale was on Sunday, and it was
pretty damn good. A bunch of stuff is revealed. It's
pretty good, But when you could try to break it down,
you're like, well, that doesn't make a whole lot of
sense and creates complications for the movies. But yeah, whatever,

(01:38:28):
it was a good season. I'm excited for season two.

Speaker 5 (01:38:31):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
I feel like Bill Scarsguard deserves some sort of award,
maybe an Emmy award, I don't know. It's pretty great
this season. It gets a lot more to do. So
if you were wondering if you should watch it, you
definitely should. I always say the first maybe four episodes
or a little like slow Going, you're kind of setting
the table for everything, and then the last half of

(01:38:55):
it is pretty damn good, so it's worth a watch.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
I kind of want to watch it, but I gotta
figure out a way to get my hands on it free.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
Yeah, paying to watch it, so just pirate everything. Piracy
is back on the rise because streaming services have priced
everybody out.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
So yeah, but they're kind of difficult to pirate TV shows.
They're harder to pirate than the movies.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
I watched them off my friends plex who pirated them
himself and put them up, so I didn't have to
do any work. I just had to click on it
and be like, okay, I'll watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
It's yeah, I'm just old and I don't know how
to pirate TV shows as well.

Speaker 5 (01:39:40):
Why isn't my Napster account working.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
Generally speaking, still fine movies if I need to.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
Yeah, just remember for anybody who's like, but that's wrong, Well,
Netflix is about to pay like eighty six billion dollars
for Warner Brothers, so or are they? Well, from what
I hear, Paramount is pulled out of the.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
They pulled out again.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
Yeah, so I don't know. We'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Yeah. I heard that that offer was made without Paramount's
board of directors consenting to it. So I was like, oh, well,
we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
So who knows. But either way, some giant overlord is
going to be in control of all of it, not
that it wasn't already, so who cares fired everything? The
other thing I watched, which Doug will be like, what
this is what we're reviewing. But what's an hour and
a half long documentary done by the folks at culta Holic.

(01:40:44):
Did you ever watch the What Culture Wrestling back when
it was pretty hot?

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
Doug?

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
I know what that is? Yeah, like some clips clips
of it or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
Yeah, they were doing a bunch of YouTube videos and
stuff and got super popular and then apparently there was
some falling out between a lot of the content creators
and the company. So a bunch of them left and
formed their own company called Coulta Hallek, where they were
basically just doing the same thing they had already been doing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
Yeah their videos pop open, yeah wherever.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
So they've been doing sort of like long form documentaries
about like the WWE and stuff. They did a multi
part section what they called like the Golden Era, which
was sort of the very late seventies when Vince Junior

(01:41:41):
took over and sort of laid out his expansion and
the people responsible for helping push wrestling to big heights,
and they go over a bunch of like things that
happened behind the scenes to kind of push stuff forward,
and you know, any scandals that popped up, and they

(01:42:01):
also break down like big pay per views, but like
everything is done in a way where they're not like
they're not just talking. They're not doing like a review
of the pay per view. They're explaining all the matches
in a way to point out like this is where
the business was at this point, and these are the

(01:42:21):
people that were on top and like all this stuff.
So the one I watched is they put up part
one of the New Generation, which is when I kind
of started watching, and that's when like Hogan had left
and Brett Hart and Shaw Michaels were kind of going
up towards the top of the card and stuff. And

(01:42:42):
so the first part that I watched was like breaking
down a lot of like like the big thing one
of the big shows that we're talking about was like
the Summer Slam that was at Wembley Stadium, and they
were pointing out that, like, you know, the two big
matches on the card was Brett Hart and the British

(01:43:04):
Bulldog and then Macha Man and the Ultimate Warrior for
the World title. And they point out like, well, the
two big matches were face versus face, which means four
of the biggest face characters in the company were taken up.
So then that kind of screwed up the rest of
the card because now you have too many heels and

(01:43:24):
not enough faces to do like really good matches and stuff.
And so they kind of break down stuff like that,
like these are the matches that were happening. These were
people that were at the top of the card, So
this is where the business was where they were trying
to push these people to be more like well known
and sort of lead the company because Hogan had left,
and then like there was like a big exodus of

(01:43:46):
like Jim Duggan left, Roddy Piper left, you know, like
all these like people who were around for like the
big push in the eighties were all leaving. And so
now they had a bunch of younger, smaller of theirs
that they had to figure out how to sort of
transform like what the product was and stuff, and so

(01:44:08):
they break all this stuff down, and it's just really
interesting to kind of see, like from when I started watching, like, oh,
these are like the big angles they were trying to push,
and you know, the buy rates weren't as good as
it used to be, and just sort of how the
business was in this period. And it's just very nostalgic
for me to sort of go back over that period again.

(01:44:32):
So it was a lot of fun. I'm anxiously awaiting
part two because they ended part one at the Survivor
series where it was supposed to be Brett Hart and
his brothers against Jerry Lawler and what he called him
like the King's Court or whatever. But then like Jerry
Lawler got indicted for sexual assault of a minor or something,

(01:44:56):
which turned out not to be like it was a
false accusation, like the person recanted and said they did
it to like impress somebody else or I don't know,
some bullshit. But it like fucked up like this card
completely and they had to change it with like a
week before the pay per view because of all this,
and it sort of ended like, oh shit, like this

(01:45:19):
was a big scandal, but there was more scandals to
come and then you know, stay tuned for part two.
God damn son of a bitch. So it was just
kind of fun. I'm interested to watch see how part
two goes. And then I think they're planning on doing
one for the Attitude Air, which would be fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
So yeah, again, all that bind scenes stuff is generally
more interesting than what's actually going on in wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
Oh for sure. Yeah, so it was interesting watch just
breaking down the timeline and stuff. But yeah, that's all
I really watched. I don't I did nothing this weekend,
so I don't know if I played too many video
games or what was going on, but I feel like
I should have watched like five movies this weekend and
I did not watch a single thing. Apparently.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
It's amazing how in December time can just drift away
and you're like, what I do again, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:46:10):
Oh yeah, because I got up at like seven in
the morning on Saturday, and then I was like, all right, well,
I got a bunch of stuff I need to get
out and do. And I looked outside. I'm like, oh,
it snowed like five inches overnight and still snowing. So yeah,
I'm not going anywhere. And I sat in my pajamas

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inside of my couch all day. So yeah, I mean,
I feel but I feel like I should have watched
something at least all day. I don't know what I
was doing all day. Well, I know I took a
nap at one point, so it doesn't count for like
three hours.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
But here's a brief glimpse of some of the truly
fine pictures we scheduled in the near future.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
So if there's anything you've learned about this shows, we
are definitely uh professional schedule stuff very seriously. And this
is the point of the show where we talk about
how we don't really have a plan for what we're
doing next episode.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
We don't.

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
I threw out because of the tragic events that have
happened over the past couple of days of doing a
Rob Reiner episode. Doug chimed in with a couple of movies.
Noah didn't say anything, so I don't know if we
ever confirmed it.

Speaker 5 (01:47:30):
I don't. I don't know enough Rob Reiners.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
I have an opinion, well, Doug throughout like stand By
Me and Misery, which would be his two Stephen King rotations,
which I am on board for.

Speaker 3 (01:47:43):
I don't know, is that is that what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
That's following me? If that's what we want to do.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
What was our other options?

Speaker 4 (01:47:50):
I don't know, because it would have been I think
Noah's nos point to.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
Choose, and next episode will be least after Christmas, but
before New Year's Yes, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
Again, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
Maybe we shouldn't have done this segment at all.

Speaker 4 (01:48:15):
Maybe this is awkward. Yeah, let's just uh yeah, that's
what we're doing. We're doing stand By Me and Misery
in honor of Rob Brianer, which sounds like he had
his own horror movie going on, which was insane.

Speaker 3 (01:48:32):
It keeps getting more and more like interesting. It's it
was sad right from the get go, of course, and
then it's like and then all of a sudden you're like, oh,
like there's like Billy Crystal like leaving his house and
the reports are that he went in and saw the
body's laying on the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
Oh really, I didn't see that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
Yeah, And then you're like, oh, it turns out this
the fight between them and their sons started at Counting
O'Brien's house.

Speaker 4 (01:48:56):
Like what Christmas party, which.

Speaker 3 (01:48:59):
I mean, I guess it's like it makes sense that
they would be at Conan O'Brien's Christmas party, and it's.

Speaker 5 (01:49:05):
I I heard the initial stuff where they were like
bodies that were found at Rob Bryan herseuse and I
was like, oh, that's not good. They said it was
him and his wife, and that's kind of whenever I
cut everything off, I was like, because there was the
chance that it was going to be some politically motivated

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psycho thing, you know, because he's so outspoken.

Speaker 4 (01:49:28):
Yeah, technically we still don't know the motive, so.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
No, but we also do know him and his son
had like a long history and his son had addiction
issues and mental health issues.

Speaker 4 (01:49:38):
And yeah, yeah, his son's been arrested for it sounds
from everything I've heard, it sounds like it was pretty horrific,
and uh, yeah, like you said that apparently had a
big argument at con O'Brien's Christmas party. It's just weird
to see headline about the murder of a famous, uh

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and well loved director. And then the Lions had an
argument at Conan O'Brien's Christmas party, which ended in murder.

Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
Don't say nobody that makes me laugh about them dying.

Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
It's so fucking weird.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
It really does sound like it might just be one
of those cases of like, like mental health. Sometimes it
just catches up to you, man like addiction issues all
that stuff. Like sometimes it just doesn't matter how hard,
how long you maybe think you're better or whatever. It
just we had that conversation with that wrestler, the female
wrestler that died, where we're like, remember that when the

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Dark Side of the Ring episode where they were like,
I think everybody tried their best to keep her alive
and they just couldn't. Like that might be what this is.
It's just like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:50:54):
Yeah, And then it doesn't help that the President posted
something about, oh what possibly killed Rob Bryaner was his
Trump derangement syndrome?

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
Anyways, I just stumbled across a headline that says Steven
Spielberg won't work with Ben Affleck because he pushed his
son in the pool.

Speaker 7 (01:51:13):
And I think we should change the topic of conversation
to that, because now I'm reading it instead of listening
to you guys. And it appears that at some point
in time, at a Hollywood pool party, Steven Spielberg's kid
pushed Ben Affleck in a pool.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
So Ben Affleck got out of the pool and threw
the kid in, And now Steven Spielberg won't work with Ben.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
Neflix's ever Christ.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
And that's that's so much more fun of a stupid
Hollywood story than the one we've been talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
So I listened to an episode of Conan O'Brien Needs
a Friend.

Speaker 3 (01:51:51):
Yeah, I've seen clips of that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:54):
Was it about Conan's parents dying?

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Oh, where they started texting each other? And yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
I listened to the whole episode. I seriously was busting
up laughing at work.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:52:05):
The whole scenario, for those who don't know, is Conan
O'Brien like his dad passed away like last year or
the year before. And well, Arnett just texted him and
I was like, hey man, I'm really sorry thinking about you.
I hope you're okay, and Conan O'Brien grieving the only
way that, of course, he can text back like thank you. Honestly,

(01:52:25):
I blame Bateman and meaning Jason Bateman, and then uh,
Ournett was like, well, I mean it's a sound theory.
Conan text back like he killed my dad. And then weirdly,
like a week later, Conan's mom passed away, and then
Arnette texted him a couple of days later, giving him

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at least some time. This says, hey, Bateman wants your
sister's address? Is it okay to give.

Speaker 5 (01:52:56):
Its?

Speaker 4 (01:52:56):
Just like Jesus Christ? And Conan is there laughing. He's like,
I can't help it. This is how I grieve. I
have to joke through it otherwise I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
I think i'd be the same way, so like I don't.
I don't have comedians as friends, so nobody would be
on board with me.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
They like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Uh yeah,
it's so funny, like I was just dying.

Speaker 5 (01:53:25):
Yeah it's.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
Yeah. Wait, it is like we have to remind ourselves
once in a while that like these people are like clowns.
They're there to amuse us. They do stupid shit we
should be enjoying laughing at them. Yes, it's funny if
Steven Spielberg throws.

Speaker 4 (01:53:43):
Like, like confuses.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
Dire people who have feuds with his son over a
pool party, It's like, this is what we should be
talking about when we talk about celebrities. I wish we'd
get away from all the other stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:53:57):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:53:58):
Uh, Spielberg's got a new movie, Them Out. Trailer just
came out, and you know who's not in it, Ben Affleck,
but Emily Blunt is. Yeah, it's about aliens. Shocker, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
Yeah, it'sposed about like revealing that aliens are true kind
of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
Yeah, but I don't trailer is weird. I don't know
how I feel about it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:20):
I haven't watched the trailer yet.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
So yeah, good times. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
know how to end this episode.

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
I don't know. Nothing would do makes sense? Why would
this be the first thing? This will be the last
episode that goes up before Christmas? Should we mention that?

Speaker 5 (01:54:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:54:39):
Merry Christmas, everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:54:41):
Happy holidays. You feel the.

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
Jesus, Please remember to replace the speaker on the post
when you leave the theater, and our folks, it's time
to say good night. We sincerely appreciate your patronage and
hope we've succeeded in bringing you an enjoyable evening of entertainment.

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