David John Oates Friday August 8th 2025

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Speaker 8 (01:03):
Me to lie from the oz Artford Hills of northeast Arkansas.
I'm Carl Richardson, and this is Midnight Frequency Radio. Our
guest tonight is David John Oates. David John Oates is
the founder and developer of reverse speech technologies. He was
the first person to ever document speech reversals in human

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speech in nineteen eighty three and has worked extensively since
then on research and development, as well as maintaining a
therapeutic and consulting practice. He has had an active career
spanning twenty four years furthering the field of reverse speech.
As his full time occupation, he has developed new theories
and designed therapeutic and training techniques. Good evening, mister Oates,

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and welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, thank you very much for having me. I do
appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:53):
Reverse speech. When I first became familiar with it was
back in the eighties, with the backwards masking with music.
And I'm sure you've got some other stuff from beaches
and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Is that correct? That is correct. Yeah. I started out
with music in eighty three and I, you know, I played,
you know, quite a few songs backwards. I ran my
whole musical collection backwards, and I found all these reverse
backward messages and I was quite fascinated. I really didn't
know how they were getting there. And then one day

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I accidentally discovered it in human speech. I never thought
it could occur in speech. It was just seemed like
an oddity in music. And then when I found it
in speech, my whole direction of research change all together.
And I haven't looked at music since the eighties. Now
I've been purely working with speech. And yeah, as you

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said in the introduction, I got a therap petty practice,
so I do reversals on all my clients, and I
try I try to keep up with the news and
politics and all the interesting topics out there. Yeah, so
I've got quite a collection over the last forty two years,
probably got hundreds of thousands of reversals in my computer.

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I'm totally obsessed with it. So there you go.

Speaker 8 (03:19):
You fell a lot of the reverse speech stuff and
kind of reverses any lies or anything that people say
when they're.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh yes, absolutely, oh yeah, well reverse. Well, let me
explain the theory briefly, then i'll get into that. The
basic theory I'm proposing is that language is bi level
forwards as well as backwards, and it's an automatic function
of the brain that previously undiscovered human sense. And what

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we're hearing in reverse is both the conscious as well
as the unconscious, and it even goes down to the
level of the spirit as well. And I'll play a
few examples of those in this show. So so that's
my theory. It's a natural function. And yes, if we're lying,
we'll get the truth in reverse. In point of fact,

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why did I start off by playing you classic lie? Now? Look,
I'm not picking on any politician here. I don't want
to come across as supporting any one party or the other.
So I've got I've got an example of Donald Trump
to start off with, and it's one where he was
lying Okay, so let's play this one. He's talking about

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building the wall and getting Mexico to pay for the war. Okay,
so here's the thoughts.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
What's interest? I want to get the wall story.

Speaker 9 (04:46):
I don't want to wait a year and af until
I make my deal with Mexican, and we probably will
have a deal.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Swimming on that mexicool has been so nice.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
And backwards, he says they will not deal with us. Hello,
you hear that one?

Speaker 8 (05:06):
I came, Oh yes.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
So he knew back then when he said mexic is
going to pay for the wall, that they were not
going to not going to deal with the United States.
And of course, as we know, that's exactly what happened.
Mexico did not put any money into the wall, and
so that turned out to be quite accurate in point
of fact. Now, let me counteract that with a good

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one on Donald Trump. So that's one with him lying,
And here's one on him on the campaign trail in
twenty twenty four. So here he is, thoughts. I was talking.
I made a nice stitch. One big crowd, I said,
And it's all over town. Look at all that press,
look at all of them. And here he says, serve

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that Lord of the light.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Light, the Lord of the light, we assume is Christ
or God, depending on your theology.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
So he's declaring here that he has a faith and
that he follows that Christian faith or that Christian belief.
So that's quite genuine. He's quite genuine about that. All right,
Let's counteract that with this is you're like this one,
this is on This is on the Joe Biden. This

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is a funny one. You know how Joe Biden he
stutters and stammers and sometimes loses this place. Yes, sir,
so here he is stuttering and stammering. This is about
two years ago.

Speaker 10 (06:43):
There's been no indication that's the case at all with
regard to you know, there's a total of.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
And as you can see, he's having a lot of
trouble there, and he's as backwards. Have I lost it?

Speaker 8 (07:02):
Over lost it?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Over? Lost it?

Speaker 8 (07:05):
I think so?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I think so? Yeah, I think so too you. So
that's a funny one on Joe Biden. And let's counteract
that with another one that's a little more ominous, and
have I lost lost it? This is on Joe Biden.
Let's let's let's run this.

Speaker 10 (07:24):
One of the great gifts of the spirit of independence.

Speaker 8 (07:29):
And think about this.

Speaker 10 (07:30):
One of the great gifts is our capacity to see
ourselves all and see ourselves honestly.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
He says, you're not safe armageddon.

Speaker 8 (07:45):
That's disturbing.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
That is disturbing. And that was right about the time
that all the conflicts started in the Middle East. So
so a part of him could see what's coming up now,
his arm ageddon going to come. I don't know, but
sly at the time of that reversal is I think
shortly afterwards the Hesbala raided Israel and which started the

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course of war at Gaza. So so so that was
that turned out to be a pretty accurate reversal. So okay,
so let's oh, oh, why don't we look at the
Jeffrey Empstein issues for seke Okay, okay, okay, So hold, look,

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let's go straight to Prince Andrew before I play. Before
I play Trump's reversal about the Epstein files. Okay, this
is this reversal I'm about to play is probably one
of my most spectaculary versals, and I'm actually quite surprised
it hasn't gone viral. This one. It's on Prince Prince Andrew.

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It's in that infamous BBC interview where he was asked
about his association with EPs In and Virginia Roberts back then,
who was subsequently suicide and unfortunately a few a few
months ago. So here he is trying to explain the
photo that between him and Virginia. Nobody can prove whether

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or not that that photograph has been doctored, but I
don't recollect that photograph ever being taken. And here he
says backwards and listen to the tone of his voice
in the reversal, he says, jeff had to get murdered.

Speaker 8 (09:40):
Wow, that is wow, that's wow.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, that's a very significant reversal. It tells us, It
tells us a couple of things that I, Jeffrey Epstein
didn't commit suicide, he was murdered. It tells us that
Prince Andrew had full knowledge of this, and he was
probably part of it. And the fascinating thing about this

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reversal is he actually uses the name Jeff for Jeffrey Epstein.
And that's and that's quite common in reverse. It's quite
common to get names and places and towns, sometimes even dates,
and so this reverse, he's basically admitting that Jeffrey Epstein
was murdered and it was, oh, part of a wider

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plot that's really a longer conversation. So we can actually
do a whole show on this one alone. I've got
a couple of hundred reversals on the Epstein situation. But
let's play one on Trump. Where's the one I'm looking for.
He's talking about the Epstein situation. Oh here it is here, Okay.

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So he's saying he never visited the island.

Speaker 11 (10:59):
And that was it. I'm glad I did, if you
want to know the truth.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
And by the way, I never went to the island.
And here he says in the lie the word ends
a little bit faint, but certainly the lie is the
clearest statement.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
No way, no way.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
So he's lying about the whole Jeffrey Epstein situation. What
the lie is, I'm not too sure. Yeah, that's something.
There's something about this whole Epstein file that's a little bit,
a little bit scary. So yeah, and seeing I just
played an example about Epstein, I want to play you

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nit Yahoo. And here he actually uses the uses the
name Hesblah in reverse, which gives us another indication of
names appearing in reverse. When I'm working with my clients,
it's quite often I find aims of friends or family.

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Sometimes you can get quite embarrassing. And I've found a
few names of lovers which that people shouldn't have. But
here's his He's met Yahoo using the name of Hesbala backwards.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
I think we should have it, and we should find
out exactly what happened. I'm insisting on it.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And believe me, why says it's a battle with hes Bala.
So what are the odds of hearing that statement in
reverse hes Balah and hearing Prince Andrew say, Jeff, what

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are the odds of this being a really coincident? Which
is what the skeptics say. Most of skeptics agree that
the phrases can be heard. Some of them, of course
say it's paradolia but the coins. But the main criticism
seems to be coincidence. Now, these are phrases are occurring

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once every thirty or seconds of speech, and in grammatically
correct sentences. They usually relate to the forward dialogue. If
you're lying force, you get the truth in reverse. If
you're leaving information out of your speech, you'll also get
that in reverse. And so it's the odds of this

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being coincidence are just I would even know how to
calculate a quote here. Well, look, here's another name. Can
let me play one more. Sorry, I'm not going too
fast here for you.

Speaker 8 (13:43):
No, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, So here you use the word Hillary. This is
from the twenty six twenty sixteen when there was all
these email scandals, you remember, and Hillary destroyed a whole
lot of emails on the computer. Oh yes, yeah, here
he's talking about that, about that email thing.

Speaker 12 (14:03):
He said, here Hillary, and you know what that was
orchestrated by the Democratic Party, He.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Says, Hillary, let's see this email. So one of the
odds of that occurring by pure chance, it's unco capitural.
He's talking for about Hillary Clinton and the email scandals,

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and backwards that's also what he's talking about Hillary and
the email And so we have this direct, complementary relationship
between the forwards and the reverse dialogue. And that is
that is one of the one of the interesting fascinating
things about about reverse speech, that there's this direct context. Okay,

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let me where will we go? Yeah, lett, let's let's
shift gears a little bit. Let's let's let's look at
a couple of pastors, a couple of preachers. We'll look
at a good one first, and then we'll look at
some that are a bit dubious. This is a This
is a street preacher. His name is Todd White, and

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he's sitting down. I'm looking at the video here on
my screen. He's sitting down with a group of teenagers
on on the streets and he's praying with them. So
we listen to this.

Speaker 13 (15:30):
DeAndre, you're amazing man, you are you have amazing purposely
you're amazing Father.

Speaker 14 (15:36):
Thank you for DeAndre and Jesus name here.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
He says, in the light are we are?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
We are?

Speaker 14 (15:44):
We?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
There we go wonderful, nice, congruently versala. Yeah, now let's
look at let's look at something a little bit different.
Oh I can't play that one. So yeah, you can't
use four letter words.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
Uh well we're not on actual radiol so you can.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Okay, all right, well, then let's do it. This is
a chapman of Mike Curry. He is the he is
the presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church. Okay, h huh.
Here he is a preaching a sermon sty with me.

Speaker 15 (16:26):
Now I want you to know I went to seminary
Pentacough becomes the extension of the incarnation. I think I'm
on solid theological ground there that when that happens, When
that happens, a new world is coming into being, a
new reality, because the Jesus who was born is the
Jesus who said, Blessed are the poor.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
He sounds very passionate, doesn't he. Oh, yeah, very passionate.
But backwards he says, blanket, you can put the word
in blanket. It's a lie. It's the lay. That's good.

Speaker 8 (17:01):
It's the lay. Oh my goodness, it's delay.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
So he does not believe in what he is preaching.
And then he says this, he's talking about the Holy
Spirit with a great passion, the sweet.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
Holy Spirit, sweet heavenly dove.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
See what Backwards he says, see what use? See what use?
See what use sho In other words, it's no use
for the Holy Spirit. What's what's the point. So this
is a man very passionate, but he obviously doesn't believe
in what he's preaching or what he's saying.

Speaker 8 (17:44):
Apparently not.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
And then we get to a really ominous one. Now
this is a chap name of Mike Dora, and he's
the head of the United Church of Christ. I think
it's United Church of Christ. I know Church Church across.
I'm not sure about the United in front of it.
So here's the Fords.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
See yourselves in this metaphor is the lion if you
are white, the predator, he pauses and become active agents
of God shalom in the dismantling white power, privilege and
white supremacy. It's the only pathway to.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Justice, speaking with great and passion and once again his sincerity,
but backwards he says, I am Satan. That's very scary. Yeah,
reverse speech gets very scary sometimes. And uh, and seeing

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where on ministers, let's play you the Pope. This is
the late Pope Francis and he is talking to Congress.
I think this was in twenty sixteen, and he's speaking
in English, so the reversal is in English. Actually that
brings up another point. I will address that in a second.

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So so here he is.

Speaker 16 (19:20):
We know, very difficult, the judge the bus but the
great area of the press.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Okay, so now we all know about the sex scandals
that are that are rocking the Roman Catholic Church. Okay,
so listen to this. He shows an eternal struggle inside,
he says backwards. I raped the other kids. Yum. That
wise he enjoys it. Yum, stop it. I shouldn't do this.

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This is a wrestle. I rape the other kids. You
stop it?

Speaker 17 (20:03):
Oop, here we go, shoppen it shop.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
That's pretty scary to reverse speech is How can I
put this nicely? It's a very threatening, intimidating, dangerous technology.
If it is what I say, it is, which I believe,
it is, the the the the speaking of total truth.

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It basically means that once this technology is accepted, Now,
when that will happen, I don't know. I hope it
happens in my lifetime. I really want to see it accepted.
But once it's accepted, it is, says she means there
are no more lies, no one can lie, no one
can deceive, And anyone, any citizen around the country or

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the world who has accessed recording equipment that can play
in reverse. There's plenty of software programs out there that
will do it. They can find out the truth themselves
just by recording the people they want to record and
finding their reversals. All right, let's look at gee. I

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hope I've got some friends after I played all these,
let's look at someone speaking in tongues. Here we go.

Speaker 18 (21:34):
Step pre step, pre step pre step step step step
pre stek.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Bother we cry out, this is an Advantage's name Hank Conorman,
and he says backwards, it's stupid, stupid, stupid.

Speaker 8 (21:51):
It's stupid.

Speaker 19 (21:52):
It's it's stupid stupid.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Now what I'm doing on blowing it down. I play
normally two or three speech and I just slow it down. Yes,
that's very ominous. It is might be speaking in tongues.
It gives a strong warning. And this is one of
the reasons why I've faced so many problems over years

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with this tech. With this technology, I've been shot at
my house, has been arso and I've been sued, and
the list goes on and on and on and on.
But I still keep at it because I think this
is a very important techn knowlogy. The potential it has
for truth telling and bringing the world into truth is

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really quite amazing. Let me shift gears a little bit,
and I want to talk about some of the wonderful
things about reverse speech. Many times and speech you can
hear the voice of your spirit speaking to you. When
I'm doing work with my clients. It's very common to
find messages continuously throughout the tape of the spirit that

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reiges within talking to us, comforting us, giving us advice.
And here is one where the spirit is talking to
a man who has some financial problems, and he's talking
for us about his financial issues.

Speaker 11 (23:23):
Does it further for us to put more energy and
money and effort?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
He says backwards, you're frightened, lean on.

Speaker 8 (23:31):
Me, refect need real.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
And that's his spirit talking to him saying, look, I
know you're frightened. I know you're upset, but don't worry.
Just lean on me, okay, And and talking about the
spirit speaking this is reversal on me that knows the
depth that reverse speech is coming from. I'm trying to

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these examples at different levels. I'm trying to adjust to
it as I go, so I don't blast your ears out.
So here's me on a radio show talking about the
spiritual aspects of reverse speech.

Speaker 12 (24:14):
The reverse speech endorsed any particular religion, And the answer
to that is no, there are no deities or religions
of reverse speech endorses or says this is right or
this is wrong, and it just talks about the soul
and the endlessness of life, and that in itself is
very powerful.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Indeed, and backwards, I say where reverse speech is coming from,
and reversal says, it's the voice in heaven, the worst
of heaven, the worst just in my latest classes and lectures,

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excuse me, I've changed. I've changed my approach a little bit.
And for the first thirty years of my career I
used to say, it's the unconscious mind speaking. It's another
form of language. And that's true. That hasn't changed. It
is the unconscious mind, and it is another form of
human communication. But the depth from which it comes is

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very significant. It's actually the voice of the heart, the
thoughts and meditations of the heart. That if anyone who
knows prophecy will know that Jesus prophesied that of the
last days, the thoughts and meditations of the heart will
be heard by all, and every secret whispered in dark

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rooms will be broadcast from the rooftops. And I believe
that as reverse picture is accepted, that will fulfill that prophecy.
I know, again a little bit religious, but anyway, there
we go.

Speaker 8 (26:00):
That's no problem at all. I am myself. I want
to ask you and I don't know if you have
any clips ready or anything for that, but i've heard
that baby's talk.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh yes, you're absolutely right. I do have clips ready
for you on that. Okay, here's a yeah. Oh look,
you know what, there's an example I didn't include, but
I want to include it. Let me just let me
just get up my program here and I'll just open
up directly. We'll just go to my lecture files. This

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is a This is the very first example I ever
found on kids. I reversed my children when they came
home from hospital, and this is the very first reversal
I have found on my kids. Now is telling me
I've got to open in my software here, so I'll
have to do it. Let me just quickly open up

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a new copy. I have got them all over my
I apologize for that. No, all right, that's that's not
gonna work. Okay, I'll for it while I play this example. Okay,
So here is here is a little girl who's playing
with some she's playing with.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Some ducks, being the ducks.

Speaker 13 (27:22):
I love God, maybe beat the bug.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah and yeah. She says, just love to be a friend.
I love love to be friends with the with the ducks.
I love schor reversals. They're just absolutely fast. And this

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is the this is the very first reversal I found
on my my children. And this is when she was
that's three months of age. And you'll just hear her
talking forwards with baby talk, and here it is here. No,

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we'll play it backward. You hear a little bit gibbish.
And the right at the end she says hello. You
hear that there right at the end. I'll do it
again for those he missed first words. Three months of age.

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That's that's that's a pretty amazing example. And here's a
child talking with them or talking about one of one
of her friends.

Speaker 8 (28:52):
The fist. Oh yeah, how old was she?

Speaker 7 (28:57):
Jay mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
She says she's good looking, instant looking, instant looking. Look, yeah,
I think that's a good one. And another one I
didn't include in my original examples, which I will bring
up now, is one of my favorite reversals of all

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time on children.

Speaker 8 (29:24):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
I didn't include it in the file I had for
you because I thought the last two words was just
a little bit vain. But I think it's going to pass.
I'm just going back into my main files here and
here it is here This is probably one of my
favorite reversals of all time. This is my daughter playing

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in a bathtub and she's trying to pick up a cup,
but she can't pick it up, so she reaches up
to me for help. So here is the boards. What

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she says, David, which is my name, David, help me.
Now the help's a bit drawn out and the me
is a little bit faint, so you may have to
strain your ears a little bit. But see I can
hear it, say David, help me. Can you hear that one? Oh?

Speaker 8 (30:31):
Okay, it was a little weak, but I can make
it out.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
A little week. Okay. Yeah, that's probably why I didn't
include it, because a little bit weak. All right, let
me let me go to the other end of the
staff scale and play you and quake again. Play you
a very clear one. This is an eight year old
who's telling us about her subjects at school, and she's
telling how well she's doing, and then she's about to

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tell us a subject she's not good at, and she
has a little slip of the tongue and changes her mind.
I'll pause it when she has the slip of the tongue,
and I'm quite good, good and I'm quite good at
maussian ing the less bunner. O. Can you hear that
stutter there?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
But I'm not the less Bunno, I'm say it when
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I don't know anything else. So she's about to tell
us the subject. She's not good at it, but then
she changes her mind and right in that stutter and
stammer of speech, she says, in reverse, I'm not telling
no chilling, no chilling. That one's as clear as day.
Oh yes, so children, So part of my theory is

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that children speaking reverse before they do forwards. Language development
begins backwards. And a lot of child psychologists will tell
you this anyway about like children will sometimes crawl backwards first,
and some functions are reversed, And I'm saying that their
speech is reversed too, and they are learning to speak

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in reverse before they speak forwards. And by the time
my daughters were thirteen forty months of age, they were
actually speaking in three or four words sentences in reverse,
even though their four was speak was just the occasional
word here and there. So, oh, let me play you

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what we call a mirror image reversal, where it says
exactly the same force as it does backwards. Here was
the child and his dad and they're just they're just
talking away. So here we go.

Speaker 8 (32:47):
You had scatty and what else did you have?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
And krent and milk and milk?

Speaker 8 (32:54):
Oh, then you had a nap?

Speaker 20 (32:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (32:56):
Were you a good rester?

Speaker 20 (32:58):
Yep? Yeah, I love you mama.

Speaker 10 (33:05):
I V when.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
She says I love you mama, I think I've got
it isolated.

Speaker 8 (33:11):
Love you mama.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Okay, she says, I love you, mama, and backwards the
child says, I love you mama. And here it is
forwards and backwards. Here it is forwards. Here it is backwards.
How about that? Isn't that amazing?

Speaker 8 (33:35):
Do you think that's a subconscious thing that picks it up?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Oh? Yes, yes, yes, it is subconscious. Brida's speech is
a communication process. We are all hearing the reversals of
each other all the time as we are talking. A
lot of that is we we interpret as intuition, that
gut feeling or that sense, like you'll meet some after

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talking with him for three or four minutes, you'll either
like them or dislike them, and you know, you make
up your mind fairly quickly. Many times we're hearing the
reverse communication and responding to that. It's part of how
intuition functions is through reverse speech or reverse communication. So, okay,

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you want some more, Oh, let me play you one
on my daughter. Let me tell you a little bit
of a little bit of history behind this. When my
daughter was seventeen, I was twenty one years ago now,
she had a devastating brain injury. She fell. She fell
two stories on a concrete floor. Oh my goodness, no,

(34:44):
it was devastating. The doctor said she wouldn't survive the night,
but she did, and her took her, took her many
years to recover. She had to learn how to talk
and walk. It was basically starting again. And here she
is and she's talking. This is about two years afterwards,
and she's got some she's got some friends in the hospital.

(35:07):
And I'm sorry about that. I called him. Okay, So
here it is forward is my dad, and she says, Dad,
I'm so sad.

Speaker 21 (35:25):
She said, yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Times at your heart that one doesn't.

Speaker 8 (35:35):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, But she's doing great now. She she's thirty eight.
She she lives. She I've built a little room for
her at the back of my house. She lives with me,
and you know, she's she's doing great. She's working, she's
recovered tremendously. Well, I'm very proud of her. Actually, Okay,

(36:00):
all right, we can go to some more children if
you wish. I haven't seen people do love children. Let
me see what else they can play you. Here, I
hear someone playing hide and seek and she says, I
can't find you? Is hearing that one?

Speaker 8 (36:26):
Okay, no, barely, Pete Denny. It didn't really come through
that well.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I didn't. Okay, yeah, no, that's fine. Some of these,
some of my old examples like that one. There's probably
about thirty years old something that they were encoded at
really low levels, and when I play back over the radio,
they just break down. And I'm not too sure why

(36:54):
that is. So. Okay, oh here, look I'm looking at
right now. That's quite funny. This is this is me
going to do business with a businessman. I actually have
quite a lot of business people who contract me for services,
and I can tell them pretty much whether their business

(37:17):
will succeed or not, because see, the unconscious mind knows
the unconscious mind knows our future, it knows our past.
I got some reversals to play you that show the
reversals showing the future I'll get onto them with them
in a sec And and so reverse speech can tell
you whether your business will succeed or fail. I have

(37:39):
people contracting me for investment advice on stocks. So here's
a young man who came to me and he wanted
to help me market reverse speech. So we're having a
business discussion. You'll have to excuse all the Australian accents.
It's sort of where I work. So here we are
having having a business discussion.

Speaker 13 (37:59):
We wull negotiate that with Anchor Point when we go
over there. Yes, I agree with you. I agree that
way if we contain the soul rights to the books?
Did channel to us?

Speaker 11 (38:10):
Now? Ankle Point always going to be publishing this book.

Speaker 13 (38:13):
They have options on my next book.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
And here the man says, I'm so full of and
you can guess what the last word is. So here
we go.

Speaker 8 (38:23):
And so.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Obviously a man you didn't want to do business with.
So and let me go, Well, sing, we're on business.
Let me let me get a couple more business ones out.
I've literally got hundreds of thousands of examples on my
computer and forty two years of research. It's been a long,

(38:50):
long road. Where are we business? Okay, yeah, all right,
here's a here's a business.

Speaker 22 (39:01):
He is very very excited about setting up a seminar
stroke educational business with me and Suge and Pete as well.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
He says, earn a massive fund with this and that one. Come,
I okay, it was a little bit.

Speaker 8 (39:22):
Oh, yes, it was fine.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
That was good. Okay and once sorry, once more. Yeah.
So that's telling us that the business that he is
about embark upon will be successful.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
And oh here's someone. Oh it's another fall of the word.
Now look, I don't want to do that. Let's look
at metaphors. This is a business man and he's speaking
in metaphor in reverse. Now, uh, once you get down
to the unconscious mind, reverse speech is very much a

(40:00):
foreign language, speaking words like Wolf, Lancelot, Goddess, Garden of Eden,
and I haven't gone. I've got a couple of examples
to play. I mean, I can always pull more out.
But here's a businessman going to do business with me.
This is another business with me and potential business partner.

(40:21):
That was the first thing, David is just a rough
gage on volume stops.

Speaker 22 (40:25):
We know, before we start the full on marketing, how
aggressive to go?

Speaker 1 (40:29):
You know, right, and here he says, our sex in
the bed is powerful. That you hear that one? Oh yes, Now,
obviously we aren't in bed together, so it's a metaphor

(40:49):
means that. It means that the energy and passion that
we have working together will be very powerful. And it was.
We had three years of very I was. We worked
together for three years. It was very successful three years,
and I was actually managed to buy my house out
of our business in those three years that we were together.

(41:10):
So that reversal turned out to be amazingly true. And
of course you could use it for relationships. I do
marriage counting at times. We'll record the husband and wife
and we can find out the dynamics between them, and

(41:31):
whilst driving the relationship, you can find out whether a
relationship should work or not. I've actually got an example
of that one. No, I can't put my hands on
it at the top of my head. No, okay, all right,
I'll look for that later. Let me get another business

(41:53):
example here. Let me see which one. Oh, oh, here's
a oh, this is okay, all right, let's get him
the future tents reversals. This is a future tense reversal,
and this is not a salesman. He's talking to me,

(42:15):
and he's talking about his business.

Speaker 22 (42:18):
And developing relationships with customers and prospects.

Speaker 15 (42:23):
It's not uncomfortable for me.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
But he says there will be an awful blank.

Speaker 23 (42:29):
Up that would be a role Forcennunn.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
That's pretty should be pretty clear. Oh yes, And there
was a month after that he messed up one of
his client's orders very very badly and he wasn't fired,
but he was almost fired. So there was indeed an
awful blank up. Oh okay, we're on a future tent reversals. Okay,

(42:57):
let's play you. Let's listen to this slowly, and I'm
not going too fast.

Speaker 8 (43:01):
For your no, sir, a couple of minutes. I need
to take the first break, but you can continue.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I'm sure. Okay. So there's one here on George W. Bush.
Where is it? I had it here to play here
it is here. Okay, this is help that nation is
on George W. Bush. And this was on the Second
Gulf War when the troops were just massing and they

(43:29):
hadn't gone into a rock yet. Okay, so this is
the Second Golf War to George W.

Speaker 9 (43:35):
Bush, will help that nation to build a just government
after decades of brutal dictatorship. The form and leadership of
that government is for the Iraqi people to choose.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
And here he says backwards, we will sit in back Dad.

Speaker 8 (43:51):
Raither flitting breakday Breakday.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Two weeks after found that reversal. They much did the
back Dad.

Speaker 8 (44:01):
So we didn't Bush have one reverse speech on the
weapons of mass destruction situation I were in the Gulf.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yes he did. I wouldn't know where to find them though,
that's okay, that's okay. I'd have to know they're deep
in my computer somewhere. Yeah, all right, So if you
want to go to your break, I can bring up
a good example afterwards to continue this line of thought. Well,
we can do one now, if we've got time.

Speaker 8 (44:34):
Let's go ahead and go do the first break, and
then we'll come back and pick up where we left off.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Okay, thank you. Too many buckle, lots of fun and

(45:06):
the river. Too many long sizes of pactasy. You lay
your beds, then you pay the price.

Speaker 24 (45:29):
This is dark Matter News. I'm Joshua Stark. The Smithsonian's
National Air and Space Museum in Washington, d C. Has
officially reopened five newly renovated galleries. After years of construction
and anticipation, thousands of visitors flooded the museum to explore
the latest exhibits, which blend historical artifacts with cutting edge

(45:50):
visions of the future. Among the highlights is the updated
Boeing Milestones of Flight Hall, now showcasing iconic pieces such
as On Glenn's Friendship seven Mercury capsule and the Bell
X one, the first aircraft to break the sound barrier.
The Futures in Space Gallery and offers a glimpse into

(46:11):
tomorrow featuring real flown components from a SpaceX Falcon nine rocket,
a mock up of Blue Origin's new Shepherd crew capsule,
and a full scale three D printed Mars habitat designed
to simulate life on the Red planet. Other revamped spaces
include the World War One Gallery, now displaying vintage aircraft

(46:34):
likes the soopwith camel and early military spy balloons, as
well as Pioneers of Flight gallery with Charles Lindberg's Spirit
of Saint Louis and Amelia Earhart's Lockheed Vega. A new
Innovations gallery currently focuses on aviation's goal in climate science,
featuring satellites, drones and a replica of a Soviet Vega probe.

(46:57):
The Lockheed Martin Imax Theater has now been upgraded with
modern visuals and sound. Entry to the museum now requires
free time passes and is routed through a new north entrance.
These renovations are part of a nearly billion dollar overhaul
set to finish in twenty twenty six. Catch up with
us at darkmatternews dot com.

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A family's excitement about moving into their newly purchased nineteen
twenties era home quickly turned to unease when they discovered
a cryptic message scratched into the back of a closet wall.
Homeowner Madeline Jones, along with her family, moved into the
house earlier this month, and almost immediately sleepless nights followed.
Late one evening, while unpacking, Jones's noticed faint indentations behind

(48:43):
the closet paneling. Closer inspection revealed ominous words etched into
the wood, a message that has left the family deeply unsettled.
Jones shared that the discovery hit just days after moving in,
and she confessed to feeling chilled to the bone upon
reading the message. Attempts to remove or cover it only

(49:03):
made the text more visible, and despite hiring a professional
to examine the writing, the identity of its author remains unknown.

Speaker 26 (49:32):
Ed was the way fast meant night and still cold
fal asleep.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
This night? The dream was Then.

Speaker 16 (49:47):
She tried to ponseeky.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
And bo and our guest Javid John Oates. Uh, I
was scarce you have any recording some NASA astronauts.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yes, I have quite a few. You want to go
there next? Okay, I'll have to just let me close
down these files. I haven't got them prepared.

Speaker 8 (50:13):
But if you had some others you wanted to cover first,
that's fine.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Oh no, no, no, we can go to them. I
can cover the others after. I just got to remember
where I've got the Apollo Moon missions filed. I'll tell
you what. Let me play a couple of examples, and
I look for it while i'm playing them.

Speaker 8 (50:31):
Okay, yes, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I've got a Pilo eleven, Pillow twelve, and Pollo seventeen,
so they were okay. So the one I wanted to
play is this one here?

Speaker 12 (50:44):
Now.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I've done quite a lot of work on the JK assassination.
Actually I spent I spent it quite a few months
or five or six years ago reversing the whole thing.
I won't into my findings. It will take a couple
of hours to cover everything. But this wonderful reversal on
JFK that just just blew my mind. This is in

(51:06):
the nineteen sixty one giving his inaugural address. Okay, so
here's the thoughts. This is his inaugural address nineteen sixty one.

Speaker 27 (51:15):
The small one dooing are those human rights which this
nation has always been committed and of which we are
committed today at home and around the world.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Backwards, he says, head is hitting the car here they
didn't here You hear that? Oh, yes, that's wild that
You're right, that's a wild reversal. Here he is two
and a half years before he was assassinated by a

(51:51):
gunshot to the head in a car. He's giving a
reversal that shows a premonition of that event happening. And
see that is because reverse feaks taps into also the
collective unconscious, which is a universal storehouse of knowledge. And
this collective unconscious knows all the past and all the future.

(52:13):
And at times reverse speech will tap into that wonderful
wisdom of the collective unconscious, which is actually absolutely quite
quite fascinating, and it just really gets down to the
the the depth that that reverse speech gets to. As

(52:34):
I'm talking, I'm looking for my all, my look, you
know what I'm going to do. I'm just going to
do a search moon there we go instead instead. No,
that's not the one I want mission Moon mission. Like
I said, I've got a couple hundred thousand reversals on
my computer.

Speaker 8 (52:54):
Oh, I understand.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
I could go there in sound too. Oh two two okay,
all right, sound two O two two NASA sound Where

(53:16):
the hang on? I'll fight it. I thought it'd be
under Apollo. Hang on to look back at the search
follow twelve sounds two two Apollo twelve. Oh there's Apollo twelve. Okay, No,
we want to pollow eleven. That's what we want, and
then I can do Apollo twelve. Mm hmm. I'm having

(53:40):
trouble fighting and hang on. Let me let me just
do another quick search Apollo eleven.

Speaker 8 (53:47):
I apologize for putting you on the spot.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I've got them all. Okay, here we go. They are?
Where are they? Press? Conference location, open properties? It's in
two twenty sixteen? Okay, all right, So twenty sixteen is

(54:12):
I have all my reverses folding year. But that's the
year that I did them, you see.

Speaker 8 (54:17):
Oh yeah, so you're probably much more organized than are you.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Okay, here we go, moonlanding. Let me see if i've
got manual spacewalk here before I'll play you what I'll do.
I'll start off by playing you the very first reversal
I ever heard in human speech. And this is it
was this reversal that sent me on my whole, my

(54:49):
whole career to find out what this was all about.
And this is Neil Armstrong walking on the Moon, taking
his taking his very first steps under the lunar surface.
Here's the thwarts he says, man will space walk. I

(55:21):
am when I found that reversal. I was stunned. I was.
I go, oh my, it can appearance speech and he's
saying space walk backwards and he's walking on the moon.
It just amazed me. Yes, I was staggered. I was shocked,

(55:43):
I really was. And here we have, here, we have
buzz Aldron stepping off the ladder. Oh look, I guess
I should say up front, reversals confirmed. We did go
to the Moon. I know there's a lot of hoaxes,
not hoax is the wrong word. I know there's a
lot of conspiracies out there, Yes, but reverses are quite plain.

(56:07):
The lie is not whether we went to the Moon
or not. The lie is what we did on the
moon and what we found there, and I've got all
of that on file too, so yes, I done a
lot of work. So here's buzz Alton stepping off the
ladder and he says, then I step up after it's empty,

(56:40):
means he stepped off the ladder. He's telling the truth. Yea,
it's what we call a congruent reversal. And you may
remember if for those of you who go back that fail,
you remember how the lunar expiration modules called the LAMB.
That's what they call it, the lamb.

Speaker 8 (57:00):
L E M.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
I'm telling you that for this reverse I'm about to play.

Speaker 11 (57:04):
There's electricity behind that.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 11 (57:07):
I want to stick my little finger.

Speaker 8 (57:09):
Here's a ball point.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Oh, this is buzzled and after after the telling a story.

Speaker 11 (57:17):
Okay, we did have and felt a pen. It wasn't illegal,
but somehow it wasn't on the list.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
He's talking about. When they went to leave the moon,
the switch to turn on the booster rocket was broken
and they had to use a pen to put in
the switch to turn it on. Okay, but he says,
in reverse, LAMB set them there. We know, so here

(57:47):
we go, lemb set them there. That so the LAMB,
the lunar exploration module, set them down onto the moon.
Then his buzzold and on the moon, I'll move on

(58:09):
to Pollo twelve in in the SEC. That's where it
gets really interesting, the polar lever ones that sort of
basic straightforward stuff really So his his another one of
buzz I think this is actually on the surface. Yes,
it is k completely down.

Speaker 21 (58:36):
I don't know exactly what it's going to describe, big
coco color.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
And here he says, but there's dark see the dust.
And again, so once again that's a congruent reverse. That
was dark, I guess, I mean there was dust on
the lunar surface. So it's another one of what we

(59:05):
call a congruent reversal. Does that make sense?

Speaker 8 (59:09):
Oh yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Oh here's another one that uses the limb. Here we going,
I'm failing the plaque. Oh, Neil is unvailing the plaque,
and the plaque was on the limb, and so he says,
off from your limb.

Speaker 8 (59:29):
The reversal is not coming through. Good on that one,
wasn't it?

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Okay? Yeah, bad recording, so sorry about that. Yeah. I
tried to check all of these before I went on
the show. But of course, now we're going into places
I haven't checked. Oh, here's an interesting one on Neil
Armstrong of the twentieth anniversary of the Apollo landing.

Speaker 21 (59:54):
There can be some very attractive cases made going to Mars,
some of the various approaches to doing that, and both
man and unmanned UH machines UH seemed to be very persuasive.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
To me thoughts, and he says back, was we've missed
bas mission.

Speaker 21 (01:00:14):
With miss's an issue?

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Is that coming that one?

Speaker 8 (01:00:22):
Yeah, the first part of it was really good. I'm
gonna take our first break and we'll be back right
after that.

Speaker 13 (01:00:47):
Too many bookle, lots of bottle, then the river, too
many long sizes of predactacy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
You lay your beds and then you're paying the price.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
It tends with.

Speaker 24 (01:01:13):
This is dark Matter News. I'm Joshua Stark. The Smithsonian's
National Air and Space Museum in Washington, d C. Has
officially reopened five newly renovated galleries after years of construction
and anticipation. Thousands of visitors flooded the museum to explore
the latest exhibits, which blend historical artifacts with cutting edge

(01:01:34):
visions of the future. Among the highlights is the updated
Boeing Milestones of Flight Hall, now showcasing iconic pieces such
as John Glenn's Friendship seven Mercury capsule and the Bell
X one, the first aircraft to break the sound barrier.
The Futures in Space Gallery and offers a glimpse into

(01:01:55):
tomorrow featuring real flown components from a SpaceX Falcon nine rocket,
a mock up of Blue Origin's new Shepherd Crew capsule,
and a full scale three D printed Mars habitat designed
to simulate life on the Red planet. Other revamped spaces
include the World War One Gallery, now displaying vintage aircraft

(01:02:17):
likes to sopwith camel and early military spy balloons, as
well as Pioneers of Flight Gallery with Charles Lindberg's Spirit
of Saint Louis and Amelia Earhartz. Lockheed Vega, a new
Innovations gallery, currently focuses on aviation's goal in climate science,
featuring satellites, drones and a replica of a Soviet Vega probe.

(01:02:41):
The Lockheed Martin Imax Theater has now been upgraded with
modern visuals and sound. Entry to the museum now requires
free time passes and is routed through a new north entrance.
These renovations are part of a nearly billion dollar overhaul
set to finish in twenty twenty six. Catch up up
with us at darkmatternews dot com.

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Speaker 24 (01:04:01):
A family's excitement about moving into their newly purchased nineteen
twenties era home quickly turned to unease when they discovered
a cryptic message scratched into the back of a closet wall.
Homeowner Madeline Jones, along with her family, moved into the
house earlier this month, and almost immediately sleepless nights followed.
Late one evening, while unpacking, Jones's noticed faint indentations behind

(01:04:26):
the closet paneling. Closer inspection revealed ominous words etched into
the wood, a message that has left the family deeply unsettled.
Jones shared that the discovery hit just days after moving in,
and she confessed a feeling chilled to the bone upon
reading the message. Attempts to remove or cover it only

(01:04:47):
made the text more visible, and despite hiring a professional
to examine the writing, the identity of its author remains unknown.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Ed Worthway Fast Knet night and she's did look for asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
This night.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
The dream was me. She'd tried to part the key.

Speaker 8 (01:05:35):
And then welcome back to my night fragrance of radio.
And I guess, David Oates, what do you have for
us now, mister Oats.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
All right, we're going to look at Apollo twelve, which
is a completely different kettle of fish altogether, and the
reversal I'm looking for. I can't find, which is very annoying. Okay. Now, look,
I haven't listened to these for quite a while, so
I'm not too sure how clearly. But let's start off
with let's start off with the with this one. Oh,

(01:06:07):
hang on, I think I just saw the one I'm
looking for. Uh No, I didn't. Okay, all right, So
here's one on a Polo twelve.

Speaker 7 (01:06:17):
I think we've run out of ideas here for the
present time.

Speaker 11 (01:06:19):
Let's press on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
But I know you give the liar r get hiatt Okay,
So that's our first clue. There's something going on on
Apollo twelve that we are not being told about. And
here's another one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
He is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Now we're getting into conspiracy theories. Oh that's bad. You
I get this, that alien sit.

Speaker 8 (01:06:51):
That one's not coming through.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
That's that's just a really bad reversal. The the one
I'm looking for. I'm a little bit frustrated. I can't
find it. Oh, here it is, got it? Okay? This
is uh this is on the Yankee Clipper, which was
the module orbiting the Moon. Okay, so, and they're orbiting, well,

(01:07:18):
the two astronauts are on the surface, so this is
so here we go. Yeah, to put their heads.

Speaker 22 (01:07:27):
I make darling.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Yeah, I love this audio is too bad backwards, we
see your filthy base.

Speaker 8 (01:07:41):
That one came through.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Fine, Yeah, that one did good. Okay, so they've seen
a base on the moon. What sort of base did
they see? Then we see this pretty good, I feel,

(01:08:03):
he says, you'll brief c I A. Yeah, the audio
of this moon nestions are not good. I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 (01:08:14):
So well they use box too, and that that kind
of wacky.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Uh okay, here's another one. The Apollo Apollo eleven reversals
are very straightforward. What we saw is what happened. There
was there's no hidden agenda. But Apollo twelve was totally different.
I'm not too sure why. Here's another one. Look at that. Yeah,

(01:08:51):
you're not going to hear this. I know they kill
they're dead, and I want to.

Speaker 8 (01:08:57):
I don't want to, yeah, a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
So we have some very strange reversals on Apollo twelve.
I've got about one hundred of them here. I won't
play them all, obviously, but but what they tell us
is that there was two missions in the Pollo twelve.
One is what the public saw and another one was
the COVID secret mission which the CIA was involved with,

(01:09:25):
and I believe they found ruins of an alien base
based on the reversals.

Speaker 8 (01:09:31):
I found, I would agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm that's what I believe. And look,
here's one where he says a utel bst.

Speaker 8 (01:09:47):
Four point zero.

Speaker 14 (01:09:48):
It is one point one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Utel bs. Yeah yeah, no, yeah, So Apollo twelve was
completely different, a totally different mission all together, and it
was the CIA were involved in it. Oh well, here's
one that says we're now spying in it. Listen, I'll

(01:10:15):
play this with the last one because the audio is
just not good. Good on these I.

Speaker 18 (01:10:20):
Haven't double fall light litting out in front of me
that have.

Speaker 12 (01:10:27):
Anique.

Speaker 11 (01:10:28):
Then I'm playing in it.

Speaker 8 (01:10:30):
Then I'm playing in it bing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
How's that? Well, Okay, some of us good, some was bad.
It's just bad audio. So yeah, so there was a
there was a covit, a COVID reason behind the Apollo
twelve mission, and the other one I've reversed is Apollo seventeen.
As you can see, I've done a lot of work

(01:10:55):
over the years.

Speaker 8 (01:10:56):
Oh yeah, one of my listeners just said that Jim Lovell,
the commander of a pob thirteen passed away yesterday at
ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
He did, yes, he did. Yeah, Yeah, I saw that myself.
I've done nothing on Apollo thirteen. Yeah, I should have
a look at that. That was quite a dramatic thing.
All right, So there's some space ones for you. Okay,
now we can look. I haven't got any ready for you,

(01:11:23):
but we can say I've done a lot of work
with UFOs.

Speaker 8 (01:11:27):
Oh, that'll be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
I've done a lot of work with them. Some people
are not going to like what I found. For example,
let's look at one of the one of the very
famous people. I'm just trying to see his reversal here.

Speaker 8 (01:11:48):
Have you had any of Barb Lazarre what I'm looking for?

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
I probably said it backwards. I should actually let me,
Jimmy just pull up this one and then I pull
out Bob Lazar. I've got I've got a whole lot,
lot lot of them. Okay, here's Bobb Lazar on Joe Rogan.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
You know, when I worked there, I was on the
front page of the paper, so they were still able
to archive, you know, bring that back from the archives.
And you know, Bob Lasar, a physicist working here at
los Alamoso, there was at least something there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Here is this, this is a fraud, this is this
is this is a fraud. So that doesn't start off well,
does it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
No, okay, so let me pull up all of bubb
Lazar's reversals. Let me just be We've gone way out
of the reversals I had prepared for you. Now, Okay,
bobbl'sar sound twenty twenty two. Okay, okay, open sound twenty two. Yeah,

(01:12:56):
my filing sister is not too bad. When you've got
all the reversals I've god and you're on radio shows
and someone said, oh do you have that one? I think, well,
yeah I do. But where is it? Where is it? Bublas?
Where is he? They have got him? Here he is.
Bubblas are right? Oh, they're all videos and and I've

(01:13:18):
got to open up a different folders for videos. Okay,
PC data reversals. This is why I had all my
reversals all prepared before the show, so that I wouldn't
be doing exactly what I'm doing now, Okay, here we go. Uh,

(01:13:40):
all right, Bubblas are on art belt.

Speaker 7 (01:13:43):
You know, generally you're just a saying to badge and
showing the general procedures and and things of that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Sorry, there's all my lies of sin.

Speaker 7 (01:13:55):
This was a little different.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
That's not a very clear reversal of that once, but
he maybe heard the lie. Uh here he is again. Oh,
I won't try this. This one.

Speaker 7 (01:14:14):
About the new generations of scramjet engines that have supersonic
airflow inside that burn liquid methane and so on and
so forth. Whether that with these I don't know. But
I did get a look up the exhaust as we
were turning, and he says, they planned your guilt.

Speaker 8 (01:14:33):
Guilt guilt.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
That, yes, sir, who planned his guilt? Well, the versals
tell us here we go.

Speaker 7 (01:14:44):
You know, it's ten years in jails and a ten
thousand dollars Fine, does that sounds familiar to you before?
I have signed something like that before? But this was
certainly far above and beyond that, which was kind of shocking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Actually, he says with me a CIA. But now, yeah,
we are. The is a bit quick on that. Based
on all the research I've done on Bob Blaza, I
believe that that it was the c I a disinformation. Oh,

(01:15:16):
That's what I believe, And enough there's enough truth in
the story for it to be accepted. You know, this
is how the c I A Opright. Okay, here's another one.

Speaker 14 (01:15:31):
And if you notice that if you're looking at the
model of the sport model there out near the equator
of the disc, I mean it literally comes to h.

Speaker 8 (01:15:41):
To a point and it graduates as you go towards
the center.

Speaker 25 (01:15:44):
So obviously I.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Feel we doubt in it. Okay, look, he says, quite clearly,
I'm lying with the c i A. The doubt about
all of this, he says, I'll scam it.

Speaker 7 (01:16:04):
The other moment is the delta configuration, and this is
how it normally travels through space and makes large jumps.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
And he says, I'll scam it it. And here he
is on Joe Rogan.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
You know you can turn on an electro magnet and
it makes a magnetic field. We can't make a gravitational field.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
He says, I scam in it. So that's my opinion
that Bob. I'm he's going to upset a lot of people.
I'm aware of that. So let's look at someone who's
telling him the truth, shall we.

Speaker 8 (01:16:41):
Okay, Travis Walton.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
For those of you who don't know, there was a
movie made about Travis Walton, I think it was called
the Fight in the Sky if I remember correctly. And
he tells quite an amazing tale about how he saw
you if he was taking aboard the UFO, and and

(01:17:06):
quite an amazing story. Well, okay, so let's play some
of some of these. Here he is talking about crystals
in the UFO. I think, well, these.

Speaker 8 (01:17:20):
Crystals are supposed to have very special properties for people
into crystal stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
But what does that say there, Jamie? This is what happens.
That's what he says. I see the powerful ship.

Speaker 8 (01:17:35):
Ship O powerful ship.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Do you hear that one? Yeah, so he's telling a
true true story. If he was lying, it would have
said something completely different. And then he says the gray
sea this spot.

Speaker 11 (01:17:55):
Yeah, he came up to this area right after my
incident happened.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
And the gray which I believe is in alien gray
see this spot. That's not as clear as some of
the others. But Chalice, what was telling a true story.
Now let's look at another person he's not telling a

(01:18:22):
true story? Is Billy Meyer.

Speaker 8 (01:18:26):
I'm familiar with Billy yea.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Billy has been around for a long long time. Okay,
so where's the one I want to play? To start off?
With here he is, Oh, here we go. Okay, so
here's Billy Billy Meyer.

Speaker 8 (01:18:42):
Where did they come from?

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
They shall be coming from the start picture of the
He says, I helped the b s prosper. Oh h oh,
pretty goot reversal. I think. Here, he says, you sell

(01:19:09):
my crazy ship.

Speaker 8 (01:19:11):
That's here, that's their Paris field. It's been here on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
You sell my crazy ship. He had a lot of
it too, He certainly did. Here he talks about his
very first UFI. This is the very first u UFO
we ever saw.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Just now, the trees are growing up in the last months.
They are about one and a half or two meters highers.
Then at that time when I took this picture here, he.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Says, first ship fake wood hope, here we go.

Speaker 8 (01:19:54):
Ships it ships it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
It was a fake he made it. Yeah, it was
a wooden It was a wooden decoy or whatever word
do you want to use. So, yeah, I've done a
whole lot of work on UFOs. There's look the fields arrive. Look,
there's a few genuine people out there, Travis Walton being one,
and there's a couple of other genuine ones out there.

(01:20:18):
So you know, I certainly believe there's something to the
whole UFO and phenomenon. But the trouble is the whole
field is filled with liars and con men and delusional
people and and which is really which makes legitimate research
very very difficult. So uh, yeah, I got to write

(01:20:43):
a book on my UFO findings. I haven't. It's one
of the many books I have I have to write.
Let me see what else I've got here, Oh, Benny
and Barney.

Speaker 8 (01:20:52):
Hill, I was gonna ask about that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Yeah, there you go? Where are we where's the don't
want to play? Okay, here, here we go? Here's one
here And at that point it left it down the mountain,
came out over the whole way and start in mid air.

Speaker 25 (01:21:17):
Directly in front of us, so maybe about fifty feetle skin,
And he.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Just says, try to tell it. You're frightened. So she's
you know, she's giving us extra information about the story.
In reverse, it's if someone is lying, it will be
a completely opposite message. You know, Well, I played you

(01:21:43):
a couple of obvious lives. If they're telling the truth,
they will either say the same thing in different words,
or they will add extra information to what they're saying. Yeah,
where another one on okay, okay, Well they claim they

(01:22:06):
were experimented on. So here's one that verifies that.

Speaker 11 (01:22:11):
Larger eyes than ours, smaller nose, well, no protuning part.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Of the year, and no hair.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
It has worn the ray in the dark needle. And
I think that's something that happened to them. They were
experiment They were experimented on.

Speaker 8 (01:22:35):
Yeah, well they even passed the polygraph, didn't they.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Yes, they did, Yes, they did. You know, that story
is quite quite true. I didn't couldn't find any on
Barnie talking. Unfortunately, I looked everywhere on YouTube and and
couldn't find so who So I've only got Betty so
he I don't think.

Speaker 8 (01:22:53):
I don't think Barney really wanted to go public with it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Right, Oh, let's play. Oh I love this one. I'm
gonna play you Corey Good if you know Corey Good, Yes,
for a while, here we go.

Speaker 26 (01:23:11):
Yes, you know the kids either from you know, gifted
programs or a lot of the kids that have intuitive impassabilities.
You know, they like to pull people out of families.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
We better fake it just sneaks for itself. Here's one,
he says, he's Oh, here's one he says the con
is big uh, and.

Speaker 8 (01:23:42):
They basically.

Speaker 26 (01:23:44):
Restored who he was, the et consciousness. They restored it.
So he looks like Gonzales and he acts like a
completely different person. He is not the same person.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
And he says, serve miss the call speak. Yeah, a
little bit unclear that that one side about that. Yeah,
So he's he's someone who's like basically, oh look, he's

(01:24:17):
running a cult. Here's one where he says he's he's
part of a cult.

Speaker 26 (01:24:22):
Here we go, but I'm not going off world and
having all of the meetings like I was when you know,
four or five years ago when I was recording a.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Lot of this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
He says, the soul your cults.

Speaker 26 (01:24:37):
Needing evil, slow adults eating.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
There we go. That one was as clear either. But
but you can hear it, but I can hear it.

Speaker 8 (01:24:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Yeah, Look, some of the verses are so clear. It's
just like if they're forwards, it's as clear as yeah.
I mean, you don't have to propt or tell anyone
what it says. It's very very obvious. And some of
them are as clear. And I'm gonna get a little
bit scratchy, and and you know, they come and go.

(01:25:11):
Sometimes they're very clear, and other times they're not so clear.
So what else have I got in my UFO files?
David Wilcock, he was around for a while. Here we go,

(01:25:32):
let's play him.

Speaker 19 (01:25:34):
And there is a there is a a substrate material
that we're putting in. It's based on graphene, and this
allows us to make something called nano concrete. And nano
concrete only requires sand.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
He says, in mock it must scam in, must scam it. Sorry,
in market, must scam it.

Speaker 19 (01:25:57):
Creed only requires sand in locking at ms in locking
with musk, in walking with musn't player.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
So that's a scam. And here he calls myself a
silly kid.

Speaker 19 (01:26:14):
So that's a very fascinating concept. And the idea that gravity,
of course sticks to matter as it goes along because
it's pushing on us. Right, Gravity is sticky, It has
a stickiness to matter.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Yeah, right, David. But I'm a silly kid. Yeah, so
there you go. No secrets. Welcome to a world with
no secrets. You know. Bell says something very interesting on

(01:26:51):
one of the shows I was with him. Actually, let's
pull up the recording. Let me Yeah, this is a
very really all in this prediction. Let's see if I
can pull it up real quick.

Speaker 13 (01:27:06):
He was.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
He was quite right when this whereas I jk elects
of reversals, Bill Bill, Dixie, outcome of reverse speech. Okay,
here we go, and the person deducted her question using

(01:27:28):
their reversals into the sentence, and she got two people
to break down and confest using that text.

Speaker 8 (01:27:34):
I tell you it is power, David, it may almost
be too much power.

Speaker 18 (01:27:39):
I have questions about that and whether the world is
really ready for that kind of absolute truth. You know,
they've had these sessions in the past where people sit
around tell each other the absolute truth. It usually ends
up in fist fights, and I wonder if reverse speech
is going to end up in a fist fight. It
probably is, David, We've got to go once again. It

(01:27:59):
has been oneonder for yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
So there you go. So he predicted the world was
not ready for reverse speech, and unfortunately I found that
to be the case. In my early nineties, I got
into a lot of trouble. Unfortunately, I was pretty big
in America in the nineties. I did all the shows
and TV shows, and we had litch bobs outside my home.

(01:28:26):
My house was burnt to the ground under very suspicious circumstances,
and it was anyway, we won't go into that.

Speaker 8 (01:28:34):
You lost a lot of recordings and stuff and that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Yes I did, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, Well there's
the UFO stuff for you. So let's do you have
any other requests before I go back to my other reversals,
I had prepared.

Speaker 8 (01:28:56):
Work coming up on the bottom of the hour. Let
me go ahead and run the second break and we
can come back and finish out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:29:26):
Failing the way from the crest of a wave.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
It's like mad.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
All rolling and riding and sleeping and sliding. It's mad.

Speaker 6 (01:29:44):
And s.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
It's a.

Speaker 24 (01:30:27):
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(01:30:49):
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(01:31:11):
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(01:31:33):
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Speaker 8 (01:34:03):
This has been no frequency already Overer back with David
John Elks discussing reverse speech. Welcome back, mister ELTs.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Before we continue, I just want to correct and rather
embarrassing mistake I made earlier on I said that hes
Beala made an Israel. Of course it was a mass
hes below is in Lebanon. They were firing from Lebanon.
So I just realized I made an embarrassing mistake.

Speaker 8 (01:34:30):
Oh that's okay, Well all make them.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
Okay, look for the last for the last few minutes
of the show, and last, however along we've got. I'd
like to look a little bit of therapy using reverse
speech in therapy, because this is my this is actually
my first love of the field. I was a therapist
and counselor even before I started reverse speech, so so

(01:34:55):
for the last forty years I've I have a very
successful therapy practice where I work with clients and get amazing,
amazing results. Reverse speech in one session will pinpoint the
exact reason and cause of someone's problems and issues, and
what might take regular therapy months or years to get

(01:35:19):
her first beach, can get to it in just one session.
Let me play a couple of examples of this. This
is a woman who came to me because she's had
a series of broken relationship actually engagement. She's been engaged
I think five or six times and they all broke
up rather than nastily. So this is what the session

(01:35:43):
was about. And in this instant here and the fowards
she's saying, I marked it on the cow when the
relationship shifted. So anyway, he's the forwards.

Speaker 22 (01:35:52):
Marked on the calendar when the night that had happened
to my friend. Shell was just telling me about you
know what we believe, we then create and it's a
shifted and that's.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
And she says backwards, I've been molested molested.

Speaker 8 (01:36:14):
That's very clear.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
I know. I pray to that reversal. And she broke
down in tears. She had been molested regularly for many
years by a family member. She had never told a
soul because she was too ashamed and embarrassed. She certainly
hadn't intended to tell me, but that was the reason

(01:36:38):
why her relationships were breaking up all the time, because
the constant series of molestations as a young child, and
oh no as a teenager. Sorry, and and reversely loved
to tell us that immediately. Now here's a woman who
had money problems. And I actually do a lot of

(01:36:59):
work with money issues. One of my success stories is
removing money blocks and making people money. I actually have
great success with that. So here's a woman working on
working on talking about her financial problems.

Speaker 26 (01:37:17):
She and I need to work this issue out. But
it started to bring up all my money fears and stuff.

Speaker 14 (01:37:22):
And the thing is is, if I know I start
sourcing fear.

Speaker 6 (01:37:25):
Again, I'm going to go.

Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
And she says, work on my grief.

Speaker 26 (01:37:35):
Grief.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
So the reversals are telling us that in order to
solve her money problems, she has grief issues to work on.
And so, just with a couple of about five ten
minutes of questioning, I was able to find out that
her father was very wealthy, but he used to abuse her, well,
emotionally abused her. Not is the abuser, but he mostly

(01:38:01):
abused her and used money as a weapon, and which
caused her a lot of grief as a as a child.
And so in order to solve her money problems, we
had to solve the grief issues that she had carried
on with her into adulthood. And that too could take

(01:38:22):
many sessions to get to that. That that answer, and
let me just scroll through here these are the examples
I had pread for you. Oh, here's a woman who's
suffering from depression.

Speaker 12 (01:38:38):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Reversal told us how to fix her depression. Here's the thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
I've started doing something about my life, about the situations
that I found myself in.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
And here she says, in need more sunlight, went cut
down all the trees around the house and opened the
blinds and curvetains and within two or three weeks the
depression had completely faded. Wow, more sunlight and reverse speech

(01:39:10):
is just amazing. It's I I am in awe of it.
In the successes and oh, we even say miracles that
will happen in session work. I mean you you imagine,
look us like the X ray. Until the X ray
was developed, doctors have no idea what was going on

(01:39:31):
inside the body. And reverse speech is like the X
ray for the mind and the human mind. It shows
us what is happening inside and see inside when the honey,
less than five percent of the mind is conscious, and
that other ninety five percent knows us very very well.

(01:39:53):
It knows what our problems are, it knows what the
solutions are, it knows the warnings, it knows the future.
And that's what reverse speech taps into, is that deeper
world of the unconscious mind. So it's a lot more
than just conscious lies. I mean, obviously that's what everyone
wants to hear.

Speaker 8 (01:40:12):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
The reverse speech goes even deeper than that, and sometimes
this session work you can get embarrassing truth come out
like this one. Here, this is I can find all
sorts of secrets. And client, here's one secret I found.

Speaker 14 (01:40:31):
Excited to see how the next section because the next one.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
He says, I warn there's no cannabis. Cannabis. Yeah, he
had none for the weekend. Apparently that was a little
embarrassing secret. Oh here's another one from a client. This

(01:40:58):
one is amazing.

Speaker 26 (01:41:02):
Excuse me.

Speaker 22 (01:41:04):
I was going to pull up my reversals so I
can see waiting that we just share the screen.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
I've got them. Hang on and she says, release the council,
serve you our power.

Speaker 23 (01:41:18):
Yease yees, and again yes, release the council, release the advice,
the advice.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
That you can give.

Speaker 8 (01:41:34):
That was very clear.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
That was a great one. Oh, here's a marvelous one
I found just last month. Actually, I can include this
in all my lectures dramatic. I do a lot in
addition to my therapy practice, I have training programs and
I trained students how to do reverse speech. It's a

(01:41:57):
year long course. And here's a client who's talking to
me about what he wants to do. He talked about
reverse speech, he talked about massage, he talked about alternative therapy.
I think he's talking about some sort of massage in
this section forwards, what's thematic with Surgey the method massage?
In the energy lesoge And in seven Plucks right, he

(01:42:20):
says the beginners in reverse will be famous.

Speaker 8 (01:42:26):
Results hm hm.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
Tenth reverse. In other words, those beginners, those students who
are just starting out in reverse speech at one stage
will become the pioneers and founders of the field. They
will indeed be famous. And there's another reversal. Oh, here's
a reversal on client. And this reversal actually uses the

(01:43:00):
word reverse speech in its reversal. So here's the thoughts.

Speaker 14 (01:43:05):
Sylvain about you know, CORYN. Davis, You're supposed to be
one of the big guys in reverse speech in the future,
which would be great. And then the reversal said, found
the Steve server and he thinks that Sylvaine is going
to be the one that helps me might find my
higher self.

Speaker 26 (01:43:18):
I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
And it says reverse speech in life this will serve her.
So by having reverse speech in your life, it will

(01:43:40):
serve you. Okay, So that's a good one. Oh, here's
one that shows we're sort of getting to the end here,
so here's one that shows the future potential of reverse speech.
Now that hasn't happened yet because reverse speech is still
still small and it's yeah, it's still small. Unfortunately, I

(01:44:03):
which it was bigger. It's been a lung road.

Speaker 8 (01:44:06):
Well, I've always been interested in it. So you've got one, fan, Oh,
thank you, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
Yeah, I think I've got a few out there. So, well,
here's one of my students talking about how can we
change the world with reverse speech?

Speaker 20 (01:44:20):
Other metaphor would be the optimum metaphor that we could
put out into the world that would attract people's interests
and enthusiasm and would attract the right kind of people
to the process and to the our mission and to
the work that we do.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
We talked about the work that we do. He says,
in reverse we deal with revolution.

Speaker 8 (01:44:52):
First part was pretty clear, but not the revolution. Well yeah, yeah,
that was when you go to slower down it and
it drops out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
Oh does it? Yeah, I think I've got to drop
those slower speechs. I think it confuses issues a little bit.
But that's the potential. Reverse speech is a revolution of truth.
And like I said, the day that's accepted is the
day that there will be no secrets and no one
can lie. And I don't know what type of world

(01:45:25):
that will that will be. I don't know whether that's
a scary world or.

Speaker 13 (01:45:30):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:45:30):
A lot of people are probably keep their mouth shut.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
I think you have. I think you're absolutely right. What
of the ones have I got on the session work?

Speaker 8 (01:45:43):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
That's that a look? Oh he will, Look, we're running
up to the end here.

Speaker 8 (01:45:53):
Let me let me we got about fifteen minutes left then, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
Okay, all right, let me play this one. I'm an
I'm an I'm an author. I've written twenty books. Well,
actually more than that, I've published twenty. I've still got
three that are not published yet. But here's me talking
about one of my books I brought with Channel, called
The Lessons of Love. It should be out next.

Speaker 29 (01:46:16):
Week, and I say backwards, we'll sell a book, sell
the look, we'll sell the books.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
Nice, a nice congruent reversal. Okay, all right, here's here's
you know what. Actually, let me go into my therapy file.
Let me just go into my raw examples. Here, there's
a few examples I want to play you. Reverse speek

(01:46:47):
says that we create most of our own problems. On
the unconscious level, we are creating the world in which
we live and the things that happened to us. And
here is a couple of reversals that show exactly that
how we are creating our own problems. And so this

(01:47:11):
is a woman talking to me. Is the thoughts here
of doing it.

Speaker 22 (01:47:14):
On my own, although there's another part of me that
likes to do it.

Speaker 8 (01:47:17):
On my own.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
And here she says, I am wanting you grief. I
am I think your grief. I am I think grief.
We won't play the third speed it breaks down. Yeah,
So what some stage in this person's unconscious mind, she
is wanting grief in her life, and she will unconsciously

(01:47:42):
go out and create that. And then she will ask herself,
why do I have so much grief in my life?

Speaker 8 (01:47:49):
And she's creating it herself.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
Creating herself. Now, here's a man who sabotaged his relationship
as to this, where do you see the future of you?

Speaker 30 (01:47:59):
And so, yeah, I think that's something that changes a lot.
But it's also I think become somewhat of.

Speaker 7 (01:48:18):
To day thing with us.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
Here he says, but I must mucket, but I must,
And so his relationship is going to break down, and
he's going to say, well, how does this break down?
But on an unconscious level, he was creating a sension
in the relationship that caused it to break down. And

(01:48:42):
a lot of the bad what we think of bad
things and why do we deserve this happened to me.
We actually create them ourselves. And one of the things
I tell my clients is his person a response to
build a personal responsibility. Here's oh, here's here's war with cancer.

Speaker 8 (01:49:11):
Bugn it for that one?

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Oh man, oh, I know who this is?

Speaker 8 (01:49:15):
This?

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
Oh yeah, this was a very good friend of friend
of mine who died of cancer.

Speaker 12 (01:49:22):
Well that one.

Speaker 26 (01:49:23):
It's so curious.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
You know, they won't even tell me.

Speaker 12 (01:49:27):
You know that I looked it up on the internet
a little bit one to five years maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:49:32):
He says, I try to kill I wanted money. Wow, yeah,
and he he died only a few weeks after I
found that reversal. So personal fonsibility is the key. We

(01:49:52):
We've got to own our problems. And a lot of
my work with my clients is to u to get
them to accept and that a lot of the issues
that they're dealing with are coming from themselves. So oh,
here's a woman who's finished session work. Okay, this this

(01:50:13):
is after I've done all my work work with her.

Speaker 8 (01:50:17):
Yeah, I also enjoyed in the vineyard.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
M hmm. Here she says living in the earth with joy,
joy joy, So eros speech. Look, it's not all that bad. Look,
I don't want to paint a picture that is this big, ominous,
scary thing, because it's not. It's a wonderful thing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
Look, this is a controversial one. I've got into trouble
for this, so let's get into trouble again. This is
a woman who was in an abusive relationship, and she
talked about how she let him back into her life.

Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
And I really surprised where that came from, and that
I even allowed him to get back into.

Speaker 14 (01:51:12):
My head like that.

Speaker 29 (01:51:13):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
I was shocked. She says, make him abuse me. Now,
I'm not taking any responsibility away from her boyfriend who
was abusing her. Okay, get that right now. But at
some level she was programmed to have abuse, and so

(01:51:38):
she would create the situations a lot, and he did too.
This is why the example gets me into trouble. But
I think the point of trying trying to make is
we are responsful for our own lives. We are responseful
for the things that happened to us, and reverse sech

(01:52:00):
will enable us at likely x ray to look inside
our mind and find out what those patterns and what
those blocks are, and it will also tell us how
to heal them, and which is amazing. It's incredible, and
I have so many happy clients. I don't advertise it

(01:52:22):
at all. I work solely through word of mouth, and
people will see the successes they haven't refer their friends
and it works out absolutely mardlessly.

Speaker 8 (01:52:36):
Well, you're welcome to give out your site and other
information if you'd like.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
Oh yes, I'd love to, Okay. My website is www
dot reverse speech dot com, reverse speech dot com. Now,
I'm Karly in America. I'm in Dallas right now. I
live in Australia, but I'm in America on a lecture
tour and if you want to come and see me lecture,

(01:53:03):
if you go to my website reverse speech dot com
you'll see my lecture schedule there. I'm lecturing in Dallas
tomorrow night. This is where I am now, So if
you're in the Dallas area, you want to come and
see me and come along you'll you will be in
for an amazing night. I'll be playing a lot of

(01:53:23):
reversals that I haven't played on your show, so there'll
be all new material. My biggest lecture is in Ah
what is it? Oh, I forget the name Charlotte, Charlotte,
North Carolina. Yes, yes, that's going to be a big, big, well.
We've got lots of people driving in for that lecture.
But anyway, I've got about sick lectures. So if you
go to my website reverse speech dot com, you can

(01:53:46):
find out my whole schedule. If you want to contact
me or my contact details are there. I am working
with clients while while I'm away, so you've got issues
you want to work on, then contact me. Also a
prolific author, I've got twenty published books now, most of
them are on reverse speech, different aspects of reverse speech.

(01:54:09):
But I'm also a science fiction writer. I've written a
science fiction trill Logy which incorporates reverse speech into the plot.
It's a society that uses a reverse speech on a
regular basis, so that's sort so written into the book.
And I've written a couple of books on spiritual ALSERTYA
and Christianity and with a slightly different take than what

(01:54:33):
traditional Christianity has. And so yeah, so all my books
on Amazon dot com. I think they are also linked
on my reverse speech site too. You can go to
my author's page and there's twenty twenty odd books up there.
And if you want to get involved in reverse speech,
I'll have another training class starting in a couple of months.

(01:54:56):
If you remember my reversal, the beginners in reverse will
be famous. So get in on the band bandwagon. So yeah, look,
I don't know what to tell you. Look, look, I
love what i do for a living. It's just absolutely fast, fascinating.
I have no intentions of retiring. I'm seventy now and

(01:55:17):
I'm just getting started, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:55:20):
Keep going. Yeah, do you have any new books planning
to come out?

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
Yes, well I've got I'm I'm just started the book
on case studies now. Actually they'll be fairly detailed book
on case studies. My second sci fi trilogy should be
finished in a couple of months, so that will be
coming out soon. I've got to write my book on
UFOs and the whole field. That's I I've got all

(01:55:53):
the research in my computer. I've just got to sit
down and write the book, and so yeah, yeah, I
generally write two or three books a year, and I've
still got so much more to write. I've got so
much research in my computer that has to be published. Look,

(01:56:15):
it's an incredible field reverse speech. If you want to
find the truth, reverse speech will reveal it to you.
I say my lectures. It is the voice of the heart,
and it's the fulfillment of in time prophecy that every
secret hidden will be revealed and the thoughts and ponderings
of the heart will be known by all. And I

(01:56:38):
believe reverse speech fulfills that prophecy. That's my belief, because
I'm supposed to believe that I'm the founder.

Speaker 8 (01:56:44):
Yeah, well, you know, I have believes in it myself,
and too many people consider its pursuit of science, that's right, yes,
but most of my guests are seem to fall onder
that category. But you know, I think this credibility to
what people say, thank.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
You, I appreciate that.

Speaker 20 (01:57:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
Yeah, it's it's been my life's passion. I have no
intentions of stopping so, and I'd like to have a
whole lot more people out there doing it. I mean,
imagine if we had thousands of people out there and
you had to find reverse speech. What a difference would
that make? You know, I'm just one man trying to

(01:57:28):
do it by myself with a few students who I've trained.

Speaker 8 (01:57:31):
You know, I may have to trace some reverse stuff myself.

Speaker 1 (01:57:37):
You'll be amazed at what you find.

Speaker 8 (01:57:40):
Are scared to death?

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
Yes that's true. That is true as well, Yes, indeed so. Yeah.
So my website reverse speech dot com. That's r E
V E S E S P E E C H.
And my contact details are there, and yeah, the Dallas
I come along and see me tomorrow night. I'm in
rock Wall at Leaves where it is in Dallas. The

(01:58:06):
address is on the website. So go and to have
a look.

Speaker 8 (01:58:08):
You're going to be close to Huntsville, Alabama next next weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
Next weekend, I'm going to be in Atlanta.

Speaker 8 (01:58:17):
That's not New Alabama is well, yeah, it's in Georgia,
Alabama's right next to it. Oh, they got a big
Ham Fast in Huntsville next weekend?

Speaker 1 (01:58:27):
Oh do they? Oh? Wow? Yeah? Well I'm a hand myself.
As I told you off the air, I love Ham Radio.

Speaker 8 (01:58:36):
You work an the FT eight? Do you work any
FT eight?

Speaker 1 (01:58:42):
Oh? No, No, I'm mainly on Oh I'm only on
side why meeters? Mainly I tend to hang around fourteen
two hundred. You just tune up and down from there.

Speaker 8 (01:58:56):
So I may try to contact you one evening or something.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
Yeah, that'll be great. Yeah, yeah, yep, yeah. So anyway,
that's the reverse speech. So yeah, here, let's finish off
with one last reversal. Yes, yes, okay, this is this
is my right hand man chat the name of Jeff TOAs.

(01:59:21):
And when I moved home to Australia, he was thinking
about whether he should move with me. He eventually did,
basing on this reversal. So here's the Fords.

Speaker 18 (01:59:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, I would go just right away,
is to come back to stay any length of day, and.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
He did. He'd lived with me for five years. So
and he says in reverse feeling answers, God make it certain.
It's thank God did make it certain. Oh yeah, aim
to Australia. And I guess one last thing. Reverse speech

(02:00:05):
does testify to the existence of God. It's self evident
in reverse speech, and the soul talks a lot about
the soul, So there you go.

Speaker 8 (02:00:17):
Then it gets some pastors in trouble, Yes it does well, sir,
it's been a pleasure having you on and I find
this subject very interesting. I'm sure my listeners do also.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Excellent. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate the opportunity.

Speaker 8 (02:00:37):
All Right, perhaps in the future and you come out
with more books or whatever, we can have you back.
If you come across any new reverse speech stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
Okay, I'll keep you informed if anything controversial hits, yes,
I will.

Speaker 8 (02:00:53):
Thank you, sir, Thank you very much, and you have
a good rest of your evening.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
Indeed, okay, bye, bye bye, Pap

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