Frank Hoff Friday May 23 2025

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Speaker 1 (01:30):
Good evening and welcome to Midnight Frequency Radio. I'm your host,
Carl Richardson. We are broadcasting from the Ozart Foothills of
northeast Arkansas. Our guest this evening is Frank Joseph Hoff.
Mister Hoffe graduated in nineteen eighty two from the University
of Washington Foster School of Business in Seattle, where he

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under a bachelor's degree in Business administration, with concentrations in
both marketing and management and organization. From a young age,
mister hoff became very interested in the sciences and ancient mysteries.
He was further inspired by such movies as the Indiana
Jones series. Mister Hoff also watched documentaries read magazines on

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ancient archaeology and lost civilizations. He also listened to Coast
to Coast AM with Art Bell and George Norri. Mister
Hoff met up with Richard C. Hoagland, the former science
advisor to Walter Cronkite, at a MARS conference in Seattle
and started doing some pro bono research for him on

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his off hours. It is while doing research for mister
Hogland that mister Hoff came across the unusual work of
a Brazilian professor by the name of Professor Santos. Mister
Santos had written a book called Atlantis, the Lost Continent
Finally Found. Good evening, mister Hoff and welcome to the

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show listeners.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And just to mention that professor's name is Professor Ricio
nuness Dos Santos or Professor of Ricio Santo's for short.
And I'm myself as I'm president of Atlantis Publications, and
I'm speaking on behalf of the late Professor Santos in

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regards to his seminal research and discoveries on the lost
city and continent of Atlantis.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Can you tell us a little bit more about the book.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yes, our book is Atlantis the Lost Continent Finally Found
as the subtitle definitive localization of Plato's loss Civilization.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
The book tells us the true history of advantis Is
that correct?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, there's a lot too the whole book as far
as that goes. Professor Sansos actually originally went out to
this proved the whole nose of Atlantis. He's a professional scientist.
He's a tenured professor down in Brazil at the Goggle
University of Means jet Rice. Until is it's passing on

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September ninth of two thousand and five, a big loss
to the world, and the work he did was going
out originally to disprove the whole notion at Lances. He
had to turn around one hundred and eighty degrees after
about ten years of research, and he had to fill
in the rest of the puzzle, not just a small
puzzle like one or two thousand piece puzzle, but a

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billion piece puzzle that he had to get all the
pieces arranged in the right order so you can get
a clear picture of what at Lances was, how it
got destroyed, about the people of the civilization, and what
became of the whole civilization over time. So that's kind
of a basic outline of the whole thing. But this

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is a person from pure academia who spent his life
as a nuclear physicist, nuclear engineer, physical chemist. He was
he spoke fourteen languages and UH. He studied archaeology, anthropology, ethnology, occultism,

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not that he wanted to be a cultist per se,
but get UH graphs with both the hidden meanings of things.
So this is what he did in order to come
out with the the information he UH had a reverse
engineer back to his original uh location, uh of where

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it was not the colony or remnant or outposts, but
the true original real location. Professor sansos uh I was
trained in scientific method and and eptictomology, which is a definition,
uh which is it is a I'm going to try

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to say the right thing here. It's a it's a
forming of the frameier of the of of the world,
apologic hypothesis and things regarding science. So this is what
he did, and I want to get a little bit
better definition of what I'm trying to tell you here

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them looking over to a couple of different pieces of
the paper here and up to the up to tomology
is the philosophical philosophical science concerned with the framing of
theories and scientific analysis. So he did that as well
as as well as using the scientific method because again

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he was my pure academics and he wanted to do
the work, you know, properly. For a lot of people
doing this work did not have necessary disciplines and background
to do the work properly, and they fell into a
lot of different traps as you mentioned. That's why they
didn't come out with it true original real location and
what it is is it's like looking for a needle

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on a hate staff. And and the thing is is
everybody's looking in the wrong haystack or haystack. So what
he did is finally found out the right another words,
it did Haystacker looked for a lances, a proper place
on Earth for it, so he could he could actually
find something this time, because if you look on the

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wrong place all the time, the wrong places, you never
find anything other than maybe an outpost or a colony
or remnant of it. Carl go ahead.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
He used mostly Plato's writings to help him kind of
narrow this down. Also, didn't he.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yes, he did. And it wasn't that Plato was wrong
about things. He was a great philosopher and he you know,
he didn't say things lightly. Actually, Plato ended up getting
the information from a an Egyptian priest. We actually he
got it from Solan actually, who was on vacation uh

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uh and to Egypt, And so he ended up picking
it up from an Egyptian priest, is what he ended
up doing. And and they in turn found out got
it from the Hindus and originally got the information from
the Atlanteans themselves. So it's been passed down through time,
but most of the time he just here. He got

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it from an Egyptian priest and that was at the
end of it. Was more than that, he uh I
was able to trace it back to to the Hindus
and also to the Atlanteans themselves where the information came
from about the destruction of Atlantis, and through original real location.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Okay, I saw a lot of images that you sent
me to go on the side. What did he help
to pull some of those up? To do more explanation.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Okay, first of all, we have a copy of the book,
both the front and the back cover of it, and
in the back cover actually shows the sun which is
actually on the ocean, because it's not it's not like Japan.
Japan has a sun on the background of their flag.
It's a white flag. Whether the sun on the back

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its because it's known as the Lands of the Rising Sun,
but the original Lands of the Rising Sun. And this
is also on our website too, which is at www
dot a t l a n dot org. So the
sun rising because out of the water, because it's lances
with the original Lands of the Rising Sun, not Japan

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or other places, although they kind of commandeered that. It's
also the lands of the setting Sun too, because they
used to let rise up out of the ocean and
then set behind the Holy Mouth. And of Paradise, which
is a Krakatoa volcano, which it has a lot to
do with a strug of the Atlantis, and so on.
Below that we have the cross, which is the Cross

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of Atlantis. It's the second item down and that's the
notes the actual original real location of Atlantis where it's at,
and you'll be interested to know that right now. And
the way the world is is that the location of
the meridian is over Greenwich, England, not actually London, but
it's like about twelve to fifteen kilometers east of London,

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because that's where the Greenwich Observatory is, but it wasn't
always there. That's where the meridian is. Is also the
which is a longitude. There's also the latitude too, and
the latitude is on the equator where it's at now,
which by the way, goes through Indonesia. Our location, but

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it wasn't always at on Greenwich, England is only there
by convention. But before that he was actually in Paris, France,
and before that in the Canary Islands, because I thought
that might be Atlantis, and before that maybe someplace else,
but originally Atlantis, but that location was that in Atlantis
was at zero degrees longitude or the meridian, and also

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zero degrees latitude, so it was like X marks the
spot and that falls right over the area what is
now Sumatra today. And so it was also known as
Lanka to not to get mixed up with Sri Lanka.
So but he ended up reverse engineering it because Atlantis,
he found out, was which was located on the opposite

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side of the world from what everybody thinks it was
at because everybody thinks it was an Atlantic Atlantis Ocean.
Atlantis Ocean has called today that the names got changed
over time, and so you also have one called the

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Indian Ocean. They called the Eurethian c for a while,
but now it's called the the Indian Ocean. But over
a period of thousands of years, these names had changed,
and it made a lot of confusion of things because
originally its Vascal Balboa discovered the Pacific Ocean, but he

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didn't name it. It was named by bernand Magellan when
he came through the Straits from Magellan and he saw
a peaceful and passive ocean. So he named it for
the infinitive word pacific car and using using the sentence
they dropped the hat an o or an a pacific car,
pacific coal, and we dropped you in English seed it

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was a And it's called pacific ocean because he saw
the calm and passive ocean, and so the name stuck.
But actually originally it was an ocean of the Atlanteans
all the ways across, because the waters around the world
is scientifically called coterminous, and so is this colterminous type
of situation. But he found out that the location of

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Atlantis was on the opposite side of the world from
the Europe, and it was going to go through the
word Atlantis itself. And this may take a second. I
was trying to slow it down and maybe everybody hopefully
bear with me. The name of Atlantis comes from the
name Atlas, and the middle letters derived from the Greek

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radix t la, meaning to bear, but with a negative
a in front. At La means not to bear the
weight of the skies, as Atlas is often portrayed with
weak serpentine legs holding up his upper back. A globe

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of the world this word Atlantis is actually encoded in
three different language is that's what he professor sansos that
the code is ancient Greek Sanskrit and the language of
We found out that the Lancians folks, which is Dravida,
is Dravidian. It's the it's the language of the birds.

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So the Greek name is derived from sanscript one of Atala,
which is Hindu hell, the site of the Hindu sunken paradise.
The part of Atala in Sanscript is t La means
pillar or pillar of heaven. It can also mean earth land.
So again with a negative a, the word atala means

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no land In Dravida, the language of the Atlanteans. This
word is formed from ata allah. The first route Atta
means fut souls, footsteps, antipodis or antipodal, which means opposite
side of earth. Second route Allah means sunken land, lagoon, marshland, island. Furthermore,

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opending this suffix tis in the word Atlantis is also
built Tiv which is pronounced tiw and Dravida as the
v's are pronounced as w's and Dravida, such as Java
is pronounced Java. It means Mountain Island. So in short,
Atlantis is located in the sunken mountain island Marshland on

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the opposite side of the world in the east, which
from Europe is the farthest west both the Atlantic Ocean
and across the Pacific Ocean where it meets the Indian Ocean,
and it was now called Indonesia and the surrounding area
of Southeast Asia. I hope you could follow that, sir.

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It's rather than details if that's encoded in the word
Atlantis highlands.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Highland quoted is the word.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
And it helps its professor samples book fourteen languages. As
I meant they mentioned before. In one of those languages,
the plopa Ravida and Dravida is is proto Dravida is
the original languages spoken of in the area of Southeast
Asia around the areas of Indonesia and and Malaysia and

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uh in parts of Indian and so on. It's still
used in there, but it's it's closest derivative to that
is Tamil or Tamil or Camil or Samrra see four
different ways. So that's done. That's spoken in South East
India mainly and also maybe some areas around the Ojendaro

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and Arrapa area that in this Delta Valley river area
of between Indian Pakistan.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I noticed from the photos a lot of these areas
look very similar to the Philippine Islands.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, yeah, I mean all that used to be attached.
If you see the uncover or a book, that whole
area goes out to the area there of Uh of
Uh of which which is a smatra now today. Uh
it used to the Upper Java and Lower Java and
uh in Borneo which is Uh on the Malay Uh

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Indonesian side is Kelaimontan and also on on the Malaysian
side the Sarawak, and all connects from that island of
Borneo over to the Philippine Islands. But just the still
Uh it's the Indonesia alone. It consists of seventeen thousand,
five hundred and four plus islands just on Indonesia alone,
let alone islands of Philippines. But that used to be
the far northeastern extension of the Atlantis of the Philippines

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of that side, and so uh it was a subcontinent
of it of like Asia his host Southeast Asia. And
in front of her book cover you have to can
see there. All the yellow area is below the ocean.
It's just of Aquius below the water, and the brown

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areas are all of area which means above the water.
But this whole continent is the size of the entire
continental United States with Alaska and Ayi combined. That's how
big area we're talking about with the continent.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
That's a lot of area, yes, and.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
That's why it has to be there. And then moving
down further, there's a there's a photo Professor Santos, but
I want to get down to a one further down
on a certain put it on here, but I put
an infrared. It's several slides down. There's a Noah map
of the global Seapore. At one point this was not available,

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so we had to pick it up through the Freedom
of Information Act at FOYA because it's a Noah space
by satellite showing the areas of Indonesia there. And it's
very accurate and you can't fake it because this shows
exactly where the location of the lances is in the

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size of everything there. It's underneath the water, you know,
like maybe two thirds of it right now, and only
the island or the vestiges of the sunken continent above
the lands consisting of the seventeen thousand, five hundred flo
four islands is on Indonesia's side alone. And like I mentioned,

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Java and the Matra used to be connected at one time,
but they got cut in half through the works through
the Krakatoa volcano, which is a holy mountain of paradise.
And the word Krakatoa Krakatau or crackatt Krakatah or crack
of cop the kind of sable and and sanscript or

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in or davida was it means to cut in half.
It was cut half by the by the disclosure of
the of the krackat Tola volcano which is a caldera volcano,
at about eleven thousand, six hundred years ago. And before

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that the uh one another one up in Tobab and
northern Sumatra went off at about seventy five thousand years
ago and destroyed the motherland of which is lemurraa atlantis.
And I had to regroup rebuild over a period of
over sixty thousand years. And they did that and to
it finally at a cataclyst maic eruption of the Krakatoa volcano,

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which ended up everybody fleeing out of the area, and
the area's like, uh whole. On a second, I get
against the door. Okay, I'm back Carl story for the interruption.
So anyhow, have the various maps showing these location in

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Atlantis and the nose based by satellite and also a
massive way Indonesia's today. There's also those different all the
volcanoes in the area's most volcanically active area in the
whole world. There's the rink of fire and this is
the reason that we had the volcanoes going off, especially

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Krakatoa and Toba. Down there is further than the map
shows the another era one too, the map of Indonesia
as well and shows the uh areas below the water
and everything too, So it's kind of like a picture
of the book. This whole type of the whole area
took place during the ending of the flights to See

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ice age, which is the most recent ice age. This
would mean slice to see means and so now we're
in the Holisne ice age. And there's a little chart
showing that too down to the bottom as well, so
that kind of lays it out a little bit. Do
you have any questions about what I went through so
far with Carl.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
No, sir, I'll follow you so far.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Go ahead, Okay, Well, that lays out a lot of it.
There's so many different things I can start to tell
you about, you know, the rest of this, but uh,
this is the main the main parts of it. Lances
is actually known as the soul or spirit of the world,

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and this is Professor Sanzo's, his gift to the world.
He told me many times before. I did want to
mention that Egyptian high priest too, by the way, his
name may have been Sanchia's and Uh it was a
it was a high priest of uh Uh in Egypt
at the time where it's Tolen when took a vacation.
That's where we heard of the whole thing about Lances

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through the prettiest and Tomatoes dialogues through Plato. And there's
also other other Uh contemporaries too that mentioned these kind
of things, as as Homer and uh and so on.
The Egyptians have a name in the the Egyptian Book

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of the Dead called and they mentioned about heck cop Fatah,
which means the second abode or homeland of Batah, the
great god who who personifies Egyptian and Uma and this
is a This means a tangle or complex uh and

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rooted ideas of any period or mental formation in the mind.
So heck, cop Bata means that Egypt was not the
original homeland, it was the second homeland. And then we
found out that it's called Punt and Lance is known

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as the area of Indonesia. It is called Punt to
the Egyptians, and that's where they went and got all
their different spices and fragrances and different types of gems
and all the different things they were maybe gold and silver,
they went to their weapons and things. They went down
to to Uh. They sailed down to Indonesia from Egypt

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to do this, and Queen have Chetsa and there are
one of our voyages did this. It's even mentioned in
there in one of our temples there in Egypt about
making this great failing and coming back with all the
different luxuries of Atlantis. So there's a lot of things
like that that points to this area. But the main

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thing is that the area is not located where we
think in Atlantis ocean is called today Atlantic Ocean, but
the ocean of the Atlanteans, which was co terminous with
the whole world. We're doing better off with the Indian
Ocean or Rithian Sea, was the name of Lancis was
stuck there, and they called the Atlantic Ocean it's called

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today maybe the English Ocean or something like that might
have been a lot clearer. But when they misnamed some
of these things that caused a lot of confusion about
where lances Is actually located.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Was Indonesia also known as the White Islands, the White Island.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, they have different names like that. There's a lot
of different names for Atlantis. Another one a lot of
people may know is one called Timpolo and also El Dorado.
And I'm going to get the list of some of
these different names that we have, h if I can

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find a chart on that. Yeah, they well, the Greeks
called the Elysian Fields, Egyptians called the Field of Reads
or Taku Arrow is another one. Uh, there's just a
whole lot of different names. That's where a Lances uh.
As I mentioned a couple of those other ones too,
but that's just this, just a few of them. And uh,

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there's a whole the whole list of different names of Amenites,
another one for the Egyptians and h and so on.
But it's this. There's all sorts of names and things,
but the main thing is is that it's located in
that area the Motherland. Murray Lances destroyed by the topa volcano,

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rebuilt for sixty thousand years, and they had trading, trading
going around the world as far as that goes at
the at the time of the destruction of the Lance
is proper, which is the which is advanced civilization, Wonder
Wonder's son of the Motherland. They lost a period of

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the population of over twenty million people in a day
and the night, and so as the highest percentage of
people lost on Earth in the shortest amount of time,
because in the whole world there's probably maybe only twenty
five the thirty million at the time worldwide, and they
took out a lot, but they did a lot of
freight around the world. They see faring people and knew

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how to get around, and so that's the main thing.
But is also we have on our website and our
scientific part of our website is a checklist and it
shows all the different reasons why our location of Lances
meets with those of where Lances is located. Back we

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go one further that we haven't got the blood type down,
which is actually old blood type, which wasn't an available
at time to about I think nineteen oh one they
did blood typing there were the traces of that. So
we meet all these different criterias based on you know,
the Crittius and Tomatoes dialogues and other information showing where

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the location is, and all these other locations in the
Caribbean and the Mediterranean and other places of the world
are don't meet with this checklist. Go to our website
and check it out and there's the scientific information. But yeah,
I mean, this is what it comes down to, is

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that you have to you have to meet some of
these criterias that Plato came up with, and so far
they don't in many cases. You know, the location of
Atlantis cannot be anywhere above thirty degrees north latitude or
thirty degrees south latitude because there ending the flights in

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the ice age. I had to be placed for the
support of population of over twenty million people. And then
that's not an antarctica or something like place like that,
because you can't support a population even a few thousand people.
Down in an article today, do you have to have
a place that has the soil and the climate and

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vegetation and everything else that could grow as mad as
three crops per year, which is mainly rice and some
other ones too, the staples to support the population of
twenty million people. And a word for Andravia for rice
is rec aar i c i rec and also the

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word cereal comes from that too, called sill rec and
so these are words in Dravida. So it just it
has to be in a place it's long, the let
the equator here support that kind of population and have
the temperate I'm in the middle of the light and

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ice age. And this meets with what we have in
for Atlantis and Indonesia surrounding areas of Southeast Asia.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Was Indonesia originally thought out as the true side of Eden.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Well that's another thing we found out too that actually
Eaton was known to be located in the east and
uh Resistantos found out that the Garden of Eden was
a garden of a Lamuria Atlantis, which is somewhere around
areas between Sumatra and let's say Borneo today island of

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Borneo and it was called Sumatra today. But yeah, I
was known as the Garden of Eden as a garden
of Atlantis, so especially La Muria Atlantis. But that all
got destroyed, you know, but that's mostly there. Most of
your books on the Gospels and different an ancient texts

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and religious texts and that sort of thing. They mentioned
about Eden being located in the east, and so profession
sound Stasos found out this is the location of Atlantis
and the Garden of Eden.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
You tell us about the Seminole exodus.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Well, when Toba went off, and also practice Tola went off,
they had to flee into other areas. It's a diaspora
or diaspora, and they fled into India that start off

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with from the Toba volcano. But sometimes they get chased
out of there because the locals were not appreciated of
by some areas. They ailed to actually stay and they
stayed for period wide they rebuilt their homeland, which took
a period of over sixty thousand years. So it's not
that they not everybody stayed away. They returned. In many

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cases something didn't. But then at the time the Krakatoa
volcano went off for the last as proper advanced civilization,
they also fled because there's sea Varian people that took
the equatorial currents and fled into Peru and else into
Ecuador areas like that. They also went north and westward

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over to wards India and in this Delta Valley area
which is now made between Indian Pakistan as it is today,
and then eventually up to places like Turkey and Egypt
and the other places like Spain and and Uh and

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France and so on, other places and Scandinavian places in
England and so on. So it's first in there because
they there's the kracka To volcano pretty much destroyed everything
almost completely, and so they had to make do. And
they went into other areas and and Uh and the

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where the civilizers to some of these natives and other
countries and other lands. And they were known as the
civilizing heroes. So they had to be a little bit
more respectful and try and and and try to work
into the other civilization so they could survive because they
had a very they had a very climatic experience with

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the Krackatoo volcano and everything got destroyed. He's known as
the land of the Blessed or the Egyptian you know,
folk are the dead mentioned this kind of thing, and
some of these holidays around November first mentioned it as
All Soul's Day because as a remembrance of when we

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lost twenty million people in a day and the night
and case of a.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Proper did Atlantis actually sink or did something else cause
it's just apparance.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's a great question, Carl. And by the way, it's
not the Atlant's stunk. It's that sea levels rose, and
they rose one hundred and thirty to one hundred and
fifty meters is an optical illusion. It's like when you're
out in the vessel and you're seeing that, you know,
the waters come up, it looks like the whole continent
in our island is sinking. That's not the case. And

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that's a shallow area there. It's only one hundred and
thirty to one hundred and fifty meters high in the water.
So what happened is that because of the crocodile volcano
going off, it caused a lot of size of the activity,
and when the size of the activity spilled out, it

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caused a not a tidal wave, but a harbor way,
which is a tsunami. And the tsunami we saw back
in Pace and also in Sendai in Japan Acchi up
in Maatra. The water kind of goes out to begin with,
and then it comes back in and it comes back
in big time into into land, and so a lot

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of people got drowned this way. Now we figured that
it wasn't just Indonesia, but surround the areas of the
of Southeast Asia. Manyans four hundred thousand people that lost
their lives back in two thousand four back then, and
and they they I mean that was that was just

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a little small example of it, because that tsunami only
went up about maybe twenty meters, and at the time
of the lances it went up maybe fifteen hundred and
seventeen hundred meters, so it went up over a mile high.
And so they a will to come in and take
out the continent and wiped out the people to head

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for the hills as much as would get out of
their boats, whatever way they could do it because of
the tsunami coming in. Now that reced it after a while.
And then what happened is is that because of the
krackatle of volcano and when a fly ash went up
into the air, and so we found out and you

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can check this out on our book there's a part
on our website showing book link numbers, a little book
link numbers from zero one to one eighty seven and
number twelve zero one two. Chose a thing called an
albedo effect. So like when the Kracka Tole volcano went off,

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you all the fly ash from that volcano came eventually
down instead on the glaciers of ice, snow and so on,
and usually it reflected back into space. That's albuto reflect
the sun and so it didn't milt. But you have
the dark palmus fly ash on there. It resorbs the sun,

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so it ended up melting. The We found out the
all the glaciers that were on the continents of North
America and in Europe and so on, I had a
mile higher, moreris sheet of ice on our continent here.
And so what happened is is that that all that weight,

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once you alleviated, after the all the water goes, it
had to goes somewhere into the oceans. So it's not
just the tsunami, but this is the universal flood rather
than the Great deluge. But the Great deluge is like
the tsunami, and then you have the universal flood, which
not only really rows up. The sea levels around the
Southeast Asian area of Indonesian so on were shallow, but

(37:54):
also worldwide. That may have taken a thousand years or
so to complete the whole cycle of all the water
coming off continent and going into the ocean around the world. Now,
when you alleviate all that ice and the wheat, you
also get a lot of size of the activity and
and you know earthquakes and going off as well underwater

(38:20):
volcanoes and so on, because of all the water on
the ocean floor now weight winging down the area the
ocean floors even though it's alleviated off the continent. So
it took a while for all this process to work out,
and so we end up with the coastlines of the
world higher up than what they were before the whole

(38:42):
Tractato event took place. So does that make sense or
do you have any follow up questions that Carl.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yes, sir, does that also include the thermal runaway and
constantary extinctions.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Just included that and also a thing called the end
of the Younger Dryest period. And this whole event and
process was a Heinrich event mechanism that took place through
and the ending of the Placeine ice age in the
younger Driest period. And also it cost us the lives

(39:18):
of seventy percent of our mammals on earth, like the
saber tooth tiger and the mastadon and wooly mammos and
some of those type of you know animals as well.
So we lost not only this human at the time,
but also animal life as well, and so it happened

(39:38):
rather rapidly, and so we lost them as well. So
it's caused a lot of problems just not just in
South Southeast Asia, but even worldwide because of the destructuredness
of this Krakato volcano. We also have one in h
in Montana or you know, or Yellowstone as well, you know,

(40:00):
its caldera as well, So if that ever goes off,
it would take off a good portion of the United
States and maybe other places like Canada. So I wouldn't
want to have happened. But these events happened around six
hundred and forty thousand years or so, so it may
not happen for another five we don't know, but it's

(40:21):
getting up to that time frame pretty soon.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
What was the collapse in the Holy Mountain.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
The Holy Mountain of Paradise. It is Mount Sumaru. And
that's why we have these pyramids around the world too,
because when that the Holy Mountain of Paradise went down,
they wanted to take a part of their homeland with
us with them. In a sense. That's why you have
pyramids all around the world. You have them in China,

(40:54):
you have in Mexico, you have some different types in
the United States. You definitely haven't in Egypt and and
so on, and so this is a you know, not
everybody that was able to flee out of the area
was a perfect pyramid builder. You know, you have some
people that are in construction, some people are in different
types of philosophy and science, and which is where science

(41:19):
and culture and metallurgy and so on all began, isn't
that area of Atlantis. So you know, maybe maybe you
have like a step pyramid in Egypt and so on,
which they did, and maybe some pyramids were not built
as well as other ones because they didn't maybe have

(41:40):
you know, all the experts you know there and they
just did the best they could. But the main thing
is they wanted to, you know, have a remembrance of
the Holy mount and the Paradise, which is the Krakata Volcano.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
What is the lost place there? Computers are sickle.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Well, maybe I'll tell you a couple of things too.
In time, they were really big on different types of
metal and things like that. They have the zinc and
the tin and the copper to make weapons like the
bronze and brass, and so they're big on metallurgy. They
invented it there in Atlances Indonesia. Also, I had gemstones

(42:39):
and horses. The horses actually are not native to America
or in North America.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Here.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
They came out of the you know, Asia, Southeast Asia,
Indonesia and so on. They also had elephants there called
this like I called this stega don. I may have
on your website. I sent a photo over to you
you put down. But they're bigger than the African elephant,
or bigger than the Indian elephant as we call it today.

(43:06):
So they have these they used in battles and wars
that they are fighting. They also had coconuts, pineapples, perfumes, incenses,
aribmatic and useful woods and so they actually another thing
they did is they actually invented gunpowder. It wasn't it

(43:31):
wasn't the Chinese inventicum power. It came through alchemy of
Atlanta's Indonesia. They also big on the alphabet. They're into,
like they say, things like irrigation agriculture. Now they invented
agriculture too, which is probably the biggest invention of all times,

(43:52):
along with animals domestication or animal husband free, which is
probably made the second one. But they didn't have to
be hunter gatherers all day long, and so they could
start to work on things like sciences and music and
religion and so on, and alphabet and philosophy and other things.
And they did cattle hurrying and so they also they

(44:16):
did weaving of fibers such as stok and cotton paper
and the magnetic compass gemstones cutting, and they developed the
language too, and other languages like especially Dravia though which
they spoke and so I said Dravidian language out of
a as you know, India. So there's a few things

(44:37):
like that. So if you maybe found you a question,
you're gonna ask me until that in.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
The meantime, Yeah, what were the four rivers of Paradise?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Well that's a little bit of a tricky question. Actually, uh,
I need to I'm not really one hundred percent certain
because it they changed a little bit as something I
have to look up all the a bit more in
the book, but they the names got changed to over time,
and so the Pison is one of them. I know that,

(45:11):
but might builder second see if I can figure out.
But the other ones are here.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
The third river was the Malaca straight, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (45:23):
No, that's not it? Yeah, sorry, let me see if
I can do it just the other way. I'll tell
you what I'll do. I'll check it out during the break,
and they they're very a little bit sometimes what the
actual ones are, because there's ones that are there's one
ones that are not exactly right. They're kind of like

(45:46):
like maybe a fake one or something like that, and
I want to see if I can get down the
real ones, but kind of like maybe the irawattee, there's
a couple. There's a couple of ones and mentioned it
from my Chinese language or Chinese name.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah, definitely amount of names in the books that I
would probably butcher if I tried.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
M Yeah, let me take a look at during the
break and I can maybe come up with a little
bit better answer on that. I'm looking right now, but
I'll see a better off of I did that. Yeah,
let me check it out then.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Because it's going Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
The tough one bison is one of them. P I
S O N. And I have to check back down
the other one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
And chapter five would discussed Atlantas in America. What do
they mean by that?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Probably and uh, you know, more like Central and South America,
more like South America. You know, more I would say
is that is you know, people eventually moved up to
North America. They couldn't do it during the end of
the slice. I it was the places I say, we were
still ending. So the only place we could do is
near the equator, which is Ecuador. Like Ecuador means like

(47:08):
on the equator, that's the word. And so you know,
they that area was at least habitable. They couldn't go
alow thirty degrees south latitude of about the thirty degrees
north latitude. So those things started straightening out over time.
So this is many generations and over the amount of time,
over a lot of period of time is what took place.
So it wasn't like immediate that they had to do this,

(47:32):
so at a weight and so eventually people end up
moving up, you know, to the higher latitudes, which is
like Central America and South America and North America.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
So the inhabitants migrated to different areas of the earth.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
That's the disaster.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, it originally spread out into India too, which is
still went near the equator. But you know, it had
to migrate over time, and also they got chased out
of some areas. They had moved to areas where they
weren't chased out so easily. So they just had to
do the best they could, you know, based on the situation,

(48:14):
because a lot of a lot of other things were destroyed.
Now they may have had some outposts and things because
they did a lot of trading, but so they they
had to make do. And some of the trading routes
even just still today. I didn't send you a photo
on some of the trading routes, but that was done too.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
So the entire civilization, thank goodness, wasn't lost after the disaster.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
No, it wasn't. But again talking over thousands of years,
and so it took time, you know, you know, it's
not just one year or two years. Is over thousand
years and different thousands of years of time and also
generations who I was trying to get at many generations

(48:58):
at the time. All sometimes that.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Would explain why the pyramids are so similar around the globe.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, that's true because it came from the source. It
wasn't like multiple different sources. It was an original source. Hey,
this may be not necessarily be actress why I was
little has it on this whole thing. Ah, there's different
ones known as the Endus rivers, the gangs, they starts

(49:32):
such Lee and the Brahma. Brahma is the other one.
But again these may not It may be decoys or alias,
you know. Yeah, and mirrors mirrors of the original rivers.
So again it's a This is on page seventy five

(49:53):
in the book, on chapter four, page seventy five, and
it's ganjis set and the Rama boots and the and
the indust But also I believe that the pison is
in there too. So my question is is which is which?
And uh, that's when I'm in trouble starting out over time,

(50:14):
and so it may not be right. There's also some
other rivers too, which may be uh they hang Yo
and Yancey, the me the meat Kong and Irawadie. So
that's the other thing. It is about being maybe replicas.
So I'm not really sure about the river is exactly

(50:37):
which one. I have to figure that out a little
bit more because Professor Sancels is no longer alive and
you know, to maybe asking more detail about that. But
they make they make replicas of these because they don't
want all these information coming out about at lances. Because
they wanted to protect this area, because it's a lot

(50:57):
of times they got tillagent plundered through time, and so
it was known as the land of the gold, you know,
and and riches and silver and tin and zinc and
metal to make weapons and things. So they had a
they had a a way that they had to make

(51:19):
the areas kind of secret. They didn't want the information
to get out, so people would get there and try
to pillage and plunder the whole area, and so I
had to keep it secret. And so for a long time.
By the way, there's different pillows are hurtcules around the
world that different things are opening up on these different

(51:41):
straits and so on. Like you think it's a uh
phrase of Gibraltar, which was never was. Plato said it
was outside the outside the phrase of Gibraltar. But he
didn't say how far out mhm In didn't city was

(52:02):
north of it or the south of it, but you
said it was outside. But we found out that the uh,
the original pillars of Hercules coming into the areas between
Mount Algoon on the island of Bali and Mount Rijanni
went to an island of Lombok to the wall is straight,

(52:25):
and that's the original one is is is that soon,
that's not soon, but the the strait of Lombach is
the original one coming through there where the two mountains,
one on the side of Bali which is to the
more to the west, and the one to the east

(52:47):
that's on Mountain Lombok of Mount Rijani on on Lombak island,
and that's where they came into the port to the
capital city. But they eventually got changed over to the
Malacca as as the Tobol volcano went off and UH
and then eventually to the soon as the straight where

(53:09):
they UH they had the maybe the Kracka toa volcano,
the maglocas go off and UH and the and maybe
uh the Toba volcano they had. They had to change
these things around as the time because Toba and Krackata

(53:30):
when UH when that went off, it changed this and
opened up this soon the straight with the krackatole one.
So then you had the had the volcano uh cracker
to one of the towers of Hercules as long as
Mountain dimple, so as the ston straight opened up. So

(53:50):
it just depends what it was. But there's all different
different pillers and hercules around the world. But the original
ones are over in Southeast Asia and Indonesia around the
area there and they changed over time depending when the
when the straits actually opened up in state, stay static.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Now, the Atlantis crosses is formed after the capital city
of avantasidn't it? Yes, it is what were each layer
of the city.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Well, the the center was the capital of actual you know,
palace center, and the capital city of Atlantis was named
Atlantis too, and or also took Poseidonis after Poseidon, the
founder of Atlantis. And so they had the different canals
where they had there deep enough to get in the

(54:41):
biggest ships around the world into port and uh, and
so that's what they did. They they had a type
of area where it could come into port and unload
uh you know, cargo and and and load cargo. And
so that was into the capital city and had all
the different moat the canals and things like that. The

(55:03):
other thing, too, uh is that the Atlanteans did is
they uh they did things like terracing, control the water
and and uh hydraulics and everything even in a Macho
pichu in different areas in Indonesia. There they did all
the terracing and control the water and uh the flooding

(55:24):
and irrigation and everything into the into these uh cities
and and for the crops and everything. So they invented
all that type of technique and also the having the
retaining walls about doing retaining walls as well. The other
thing was going to mention, maybe are you coming up

(55:45):
to the break here pretty soon? The noon Padong, which
is the Uh's uh something that we had found h
as far as the pyramid mountain, which I thought at
one point was this natural but it turns out to
be artificial. And I think you had some photos on

(56:07):
your website about that.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
At the bottom.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
We'll go ahead and take our break care we'll be
back in about six and a half minutes.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Okay, we'll follow up with canon put on then probably well,
we still have six and a half minutes ago.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Oh, okay, so we're not said the break time yet.
All right, well let's start there.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
No, no, no, the break will be six and a
half minutes.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Okay, you're going to take that now then?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yes, sir, yes, sir?

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Okay.

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Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
All right, welcome back to Midnight Frequency Radio. Mister, welcome back.
Were you able to find the information on the rivers?

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yeah, I think so. There is a confusion about that,
and uh, I think for the most part the rivers
and it maybe Varians always had no trouble with this
one here, but uh, it looks to me like the
Himalayan meltwaters formed the great rivers of the Indus Valley region,
which is the Indus and the Gangs and the sut

(01:03:56):
Lee and the brah putra Is. Those may be the
actual at least they're locally identify the four rivers the paradise,
particularly in the Buddhism. But there's the other side of
this too, in the Himalayans or the Asian Chinese and

(01:04:17):
Southeast Asia side of things. To say, they hang Ho
and the yant Sea and me Kong and the Arawat
were ones. But also I always thought the Pison had
something to do that as well, but again it's something
that they need to check out more typically on that one.

(01:04:37):
That means a little bit of a mystery on that
because they get into the replicas and mirror images and
decoys and all this kind of stuff. It makes it
hard to figure it out. That was one of the
things that I've got, the one of the things I
haven't been able to quite decipher exactly yet. But it
could be with us the first ones I just mentioned,

(01:05:00):
which is the Indus, the Ganges, the stut Lee, and
the Probo Trough rivers. They may be the ones, but
again I'm not sure, and I'm not sure about that
Phison one, which I think plays into as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Did any of the American Indians show signs of connection
with the Atlanteans?

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Okay, great question. The Pueblo Indians are the ones that
I mentioned at least in our book. I get what
chapter it is, but it's there. And also I think
that has something to do with the the Hopie and
the other one was I think the other tribe I
have to think about the other one, maybe one other

(01:05:41):
one too, But the Pueblo Indians are the ones that
looks like they're the ones that may be the connection there.
They're out of Colorado, I think, and New Mexico.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Are they any other inhabitants that showed signs in other countries.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
It's just the way they built their uh there's at
least for the Pleblo, the way they built some of
their landscape and they're terracing and things like they did.
You know, I have to take a look and see
what we have that pictures in our book and where

(01:06:18):
that's located exactly, and that shows I'd have to pull
that out. Maybe I have to do it on the
next commercial or something like that. But uh, it's in
our book and it shows up a diagram of the
Leebo Indians and there and one of their small cities

(01:06:39):
or areas where they're their camps and stuff, and it
looks like kind of kind of like it's in concentric
circles or something like that. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I notice you had some pictures that were taken of
some of the consruptions. This uh right angle stone which
has seen as a quarter of peace for restructure.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Yeah, I wanted to get into the gonom Pa Dong
part and I'll check out the other stip I can
find that Jock Painte that picture join these. This is
up in h the area of go up from chian
Jir and Uh get the right place here and Uh

(01:07:23):
you have to go up to the chian Jer area
of U Uh Java barat Uh which is Uh and Uh.
West Java we called Java Rot in Indonesian language. West Java, Indonesia.

(01:07:45):
There's a carrier Mufti village which is Uh, which is
a in this chian Jer district of West Java. It's
up in the mountains. It's called Ganom Padong. It means
the h the mountain of enlightenment of our ancient ancestors.

(01:08:06):
And there's thousands of these stones that you can see
there the pictures or at the bottom of here. They
put them at the bottom there and these all way
you know, like maybe a few thousand pounds to half
a ton or something like that. And there's just tens
of thousands of stones and maybe as much as like

(01:08:28):
a million of them throughout the mountains. And the one
where I have my foot by it's like a right angle.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Joint.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
And so this is not a natural formation. This is
all artificial. There's actually chambers inside of the Canoe Padoan pyramid.
Some are like ten meters by ten meters by six
meters high, and there's a couple of them connected together
even and so there at least three of them in there,
and they've di's some Cordurellian samples. It originally went down

(01:09:06):
maybe about ten meters or something like that, and the
age of the area ended up going back about ten
thousand years VP. And then when they went deeper on
the core samples, they went about twelve fourteen thousand VP.
They went further sixteen thousand, then about twenty thousand. As

(01:09:30):
they went, they ended up around twenty two plus thousand
years old at the age of the artificial mountain of
Ghano Padong, and so I as a picture of myself
and Danny Hillman nachu Wisaya was the geologists or Indonesia

(01:09:52):
in charge of this. And you can see also the
retaining wall there too, stuff on Ghanu showing that. So
some of these areas are not sure if I showed
a picture of this, but actually I show upright stones
that are still there. So you can go into a
some type of a little temple area, and but there's

(01:10:16):
stones themselves just thrown all over over the mountain, and
there's actually stones that are underneath the surface that are
you go down about maybe two or three meters and
they're go going to one direction on top and they're
going the opposite direction on the bottom or then layer down,
so that's not just going to naturally fall that way,

(01:10:38):
you know, in the opposite direction. So that's another unique
thing about this as well. There's another quality of these
two they're actually have a musical tone. Two of them
as well, so when you strike them with a hammer

(01:10:59):
or some type of instrument, they actually ring. Now, I
was over and I think it was in Montana and
they have a ringing stones up there too. I didn't
get a chance to go up and see it because
there's late coming back and but they have another one too,
but uh, it's one site on earth that noon Padonga
has those ringing stones. And also this place in Montana,

(01:11:21):
I think it's one other place, but there's kind of rare.
So there's some type of they're they're they're made up.
Andra Site is a compensation as Andra site, and uh
you can see the on the one photograph with I'm

(01:11:42):
standing next to our sitting next to Danny home and
Nachuijaya with the maps of of ground penetrating radar and
things like that, showing the caverns inside the canon Padong
Grmid mountain. The mass of the mountain actually is is
bigger masts than the Gisa Plaza Plateau pyramid and the

(01:12:04):
Kuful pyramid over there. Did you have a question too
for me on that regarding Nupacarl.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
These stones, have they determined how many years they have
thousands of years that they've been there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
They're going to do the carbon dating on the the
core samples they took up okay out of the mountain.
The check for uh, you know, the age. They sent
them to a laboratory in Indonesia and they also sent
them to one in Miami, Florida, which is one of

(01:12:47):
the best carbon datian laboratories in the world, and they
both came up with about the same thing. We were
going back over twenty two thousand years old for the
carbon dating of the at least the mountain inside because
it has different layers inside there. And so, you know,
I'm not sure about what they did on the stones themselves,

(01:13:09):
because you have to be able to get the carbon
I'm not sure if they have a carbon date of
stones how that works.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
There's a photo of you showing a map the ancient world.
Do you want to tell us about that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Okay? The one below there is uh myself showing with
Danny Hillman. Uh, and uh that's that one is of
the map is inside the chamber. The chambers are inside
the mountain. Okay. Now separate that from what you're asking for.
Is that this map where I'm pointing to is the

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I'm pointing to the the the infrared photo you know
of uh, the Noah Space by satellite. I think that's
when you're referring to if I'm I'm mistaken in the
area of Indian Asia.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
And right right below that is the is the actual
infrared So that's something like I've mentioned before, you can't
really spake it's it's definitely there and it shows that,
you know, two thirds of it soars underneath the water
even today as a seam.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
It took part at a number of digs with the
geologist Benny Hillman.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Yeah, I've been with him several times on this. He's
also going to speaking in North Carolina coming up here
towards the end of the month. Unfortunately I wasn't able
to get to that conference, but he's mainly the main
geologists involved in this. He've read some highly scientific papers

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on the whole process of excavating a ganoon. PA don't
but they have a milit to excavate directly into it.
Sometimes there's a red tape with the government. Sometimes there's
the villagers around it. Once they I'm seated with their
there are caretakers of the facility there there there the caretakers.

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They speak Sunda language. The main language of Indonesia is
called Bahasa Indonesia. So they have people watching over things,
and some of these people before you even go up,
they charge a small amount to get in there. You know,
they go up to all the scares. You have to
walk up in order to get it to the top
of the room, but don't because it's down below is

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a little village area called Kara See Village, and so
there's got a lot of shops and things down there
below it. But if you go to indonesia's worth going
up and taking a look because by would become a
world herriage is site. And before it just to be this,
hundreds or maybe thousands of people going up to that
every year. Now it's in the ten thousand head for

(01:16:00):
the hundreds of thousands going up. They made a better
road up there too. And also on this photos too,
I have a picture of I'm with the Indonesian Task
Force on this whole Atlantis project, and there's Danny Hillman
and myself are sitting there and it's one of those

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photos there there too with a bunch of people are there,
so you'll see that photo there as well. And then
I was there back in two thousand oh the picture
that stagged on too at the bottom as well, see
you have. But also I was there in two thousand
and two thousand and uh ten. I'm not sure if

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we got the photo of that, but yeah, there's one
there too of Thatt the I was in Jakarta at
a place called it is called like Lippy like this,
it's like the American Academy of Sciences, but it's like
the Indonesian Academy of Sciences. Or speaker there and on
a panel of US speakers. I'm sitting down and see

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that when the photos there. So then I did a
presentation twenty ten. You'll see me standing up there and
one of those photos towards the top and right above that,
I did a book signing. Then I came back in
twenty thirteen. There's another one towards the top, and that

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one there is a World Cultural Forum from twenty thirteen.
They invited me to the World Cultural Forum in a
symposium there. I'm actually sitting next to Danny Hillman, Notchuisa
as well. I think maybe another photograph you might have
been referring to Carl that I'm standing there. I have

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a book in my hand. I think it's our book.
I'm Atlantis and it's a National Geographic map killing in
the area of back about eighteen thousand VP, showing that
area of Indonesia. It has a whole geographical area above

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land that it's right in it. You can't quite see
it on this map, but it shows the connection between
the South China and the whole Southeast continent all connected

(01:18:32):
together going down towards Australia. But yeah, that map is there,
and that's out of National Geographic showing the same kind
of thing, but about and that shows going back about
eighteen thousand VP. Is that the one you're.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Referring to earlier? Yes, yes, sir, okay, So I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Want to make sure what's what we're seeing. And then
there's one with amount a camel that goes talk about
two thousand and six. I'm in front of the Great
Pyramid and the other one is it's either Capri or
McCarney Cary. I thinks he has McCarry pyramid. Maybe in
the backfo pyramid there at the top. It's going to

(01:19:17):
see a little separation there for the top. So that's
the cooful pyramid.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
How did you get on that camel?

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Well, they well get it down for me, and it
was able to get on pretty good. Actually, camel rides
are pretty smooth. I actually rode a horseback to a
horse as well, and that wasn't as smooth for some reason.
But the camel ride was actually rather smooth. That was
was amazed. It's actually like having chalk absorbers or something
on the versus a horse.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
They've got a man having a spinning at you, too,
don't they.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Well, I didn't stick around long enough, I.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Wrote.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
I wrote it by myself pretty much too. At one
I said I was going to try this by myself
and it worked. That goes back a few years too.
I don't know if I could do that again. It's back
in two thousand and six, about April.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't be able to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
So anyhow, there's been many different sites of as mentioned
for for Atlantis, but it just it don't make sense
because most of them are just not in the right areas.
They're not big enough in size, they're above thirty degrees
north latitude, there below thirty degrees south latitude. They don't

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have the right climate, they don't have the right precipitation
during the places in ice age, which is colder than
it is today, and and so on. So that's why
that checklist that's listed in our website, I know the

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scientific articles shows that. By the way, our website will
translate into one hundred and four languages. It's a little
clunky at times, but you may have to clearer cache
out of it make it work properly. But it's one
hundred and four languages. So if you want it in
swahilia's in Swahili. If you want French, is there, German, Spanish, English,

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of course, and so on.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
You're welcome to give the sign address.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Yeah, our website is either one of two. It's at www.
Dot A t l A and dot rg's First five
Letters of Atlantis is a dot org website. The other
one will connect directly to as well is at Lantis
Publications dot com. It's plural and publications again at Lantis
Publications dot com. And by the way, I will be

(01:21:48):
also speaking live on stage with George Nori on Saturday,
June twenty eighth at five pm at the Historic every
Theater in Everett, Washington on Colby Street.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
It'll be on Saturday, June twenty eighth at five pm.
Goes for maybe about three hours with some other entertainment
speaker's involved, and I'll be uh, I'm the guests of
George Norri for that event, and that's going to be
live on stage and you can if you want tickets,
then you can go to the Coast to coastam dot

(01:22:31):
com website and scroll down to events and then it's
the last event I think for the year right now
for Saturday, June twenty eighth, again, I'll be at the
Everett Historical Theater. The theater it's over one hundred years old.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
That sounds like a fun thing to be at.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Yeah, it should be. I've I've gone and during some
other events in the past with it, so I know
it's like it probably holds close to eight hundred people.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Will that be aired at the led your Date only
Guya network?

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Well, beyond the which question.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Will that be on his show on the Guya Network,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Know if the recording is done there. I don't think
they are, you know, I don't think they are. By
the way, I have been on Guya in the past
and Beyond Belief for a couple of interviews, one on
A Lances and one on Murray A Lances.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
I'll have to look those up and check them out.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Yeah, I had actually the dates and times on them.
I can Yeah, I think I can get it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
If I can find them, I'll post them on my
side with your recording on this.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Show Beyond Belief with George Nor season four of is
on and then episode thirty eight, okay, and then the
other one is this one? This one's season five, Beyond
Belief episode ten again season five episode ten.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
But there's some other points you'd like to bring up?

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Uh, yeah, I was going to take a look and
see because there's just so many different things. I mean,
I got a thousand things in my mind, and those
rivers is something I got to check out further. But
that one's a that's tough that's one of the toughest
questions I ever had.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Actually, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Yeah, I know, I'll have to check that out more.
But it's it's some of these questions, like you know,
sometimes they're not answer. There's a couple of different answers
that they're not a sure answer, and so I hate
to give out things that I'm fairly sure about, and
so that's what I was reluctant to confuse much on it.

(01:24:51):
The main thing is is that this is Professor's gifts
to the world, and uh, yeah, there's a lot of
work to come up with this. But here's the question
that helped me ask. Some people may ask, too, what
is the importance of Atlantis for mankind? That sounds like
maybe a question that you might ask too. Yes, the
answer is Atlantis is the source of most all religions,

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and most all sciences, and most all races and civilizations.
It is a cradle or birthplace of world civilization, where
civilization began its discovery now at the very dawn millennium,
has been predicted from deepest antiquity, and as indeed, the
true message of Gospels and other such holy books, the

(01:25:34):
discovery of Lances brings back the hope of rebirth of
the Golden Age, which is a study of Ugo, by
the way, which is the promise of universal peace, harmony,
love and happiness for all mankind. It will also cause
a major resolution in our view of the world, of
both our past and our future, or as a remembrance

(01:25:56):
of our ancient ancestors from our ancient motherland and the
land and honoring them.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
All.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
This happens now as we entered a third millennium, the
age of Aquarius. And by the way, that's again the
setia yuga Setya means golden and the Golden age. And
also I was going to mention one other thing too, Oh,
our fatherland, our motherland is like Lamuria Atlantis. But we

(01:26:22):
also found out the fatherland is like India is India,
and so uh and the wondrous son from it from
Lamuria at Lances is Lances proper. So they raised the
fatherland is India? Is that? So they had to flee
into that area after the Topo volcano went off, and

(01:26:43):
actually even later on when the Krakatoa went off, some
people had to go there, go northward, then westward, and
some had to go with the navigation of equatorial currents
into Ecuador and Peru and some areas down in South
America as well.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Did Achilles have any mentions of Atlantis.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Not that I know of. I mean, maybe there might
be something there, but not that I know of, not
that I recall. That's the stances work involves. Is any
of that kind of thing? Yeah, no, not that I
know of. You know, the lot this is Atlantis is
paradise lost, and it's no other than Indonesia, the land

(01:27:30):
of spices and perfumes and malaccas. It's known as punt
you know, as far as Egyptians go. And also a
mentee as I may mentioned before to you about that
it's a it's started, it's our soul over the world.
And uh Bali Bali is the like the navel like
your belly button, known as the navel of the world.

(01:27:51):
So these are some little things that come up, you know,
might be interested people. But the city had a lances,
had an abundance of canals and stuff and built in order
to control the torrents and the rivers, and you know,
depending on where they know, they did all these canals,

(01:28:14):
like even in Machu Picchu and also in Thailand with
some of those areas as well, Anchor Tom, Anchor Watt
so on, and also some of these statues and control
in the water and irrigation and everything else canals, so
there are lancing technology, the flips A little bit more

(01:28:36):
of the Heinrich event was called an eight zero is
the catalystic end of the pleistin ice age eleven thousand,
six hundred BP. Again I mentioned to you before it
and it ended the younger, dryest area and the ice age.
That's under book number thirteen links the book link thirteen

(01:28:59):
in our website. So again with your pursuers or books,
there's little book link numbers that talks about if during
the first introduction of the book they go from zero
zero one, that's one eighty seven. Now it's not just
it's one hundred and eighty seven book links. It's actually
about three or four book links for every link, so
there's over four hundred. So there's a lot of different
information other than just having the endnotes and the book

(01:29:21):
like a lot of people do in subnotes and everything else.
There's a whole other thing is their website. Now, not
every book link is a lie. We've recaptured a lot
of them. Again, it's a lot of them we had
to connect up after Professor Sampson has passed away. But
we also have there's different types of glossaries at the
end of the book. There's ones on endnotes too, and
they're all there editional information, so like you can't believe

(01:29:45):
what you're reading or seeing or what I told you,
then you can just look up the book links or
the endnotes at the end, So that's important. Also, I
want to mention something about the these poll shifts. There's
three different types of pole shifts, and people are gonna

(01:30:06):
mix up. One is called a terrestrial pull shift, which
does not happen that some of the movies take up.
That happened in the movies. It came up with a
guy who been named Charles White, and there's been debunked.
There is another one called celestrial pole shift, and that

(01:30:27):
one does occur. It has to do with this procession
of the equinoxes around twenty five nine hundred plus years
and that's why we will we have a wobble on
our axis, and wobbles is a orbit kind of a
it's like a little bit like off balance or something
for the planet, and so it cycles every twenty five thousand,
nine ear eight years, and that's changes the position of

(01:30:50):
what you're see in the sky over time. So that
celestial pole shift. There's another pole shift called magnetic pole
shift that's with the compass and flipping from the north
to the south pole, so that one can occur as well. Now,
going back to wrestial pole shift, that's like it doesn't

(01:31:11):
do like a big change, you know, a big shift
of the you know Earth or a country or or
you know area where you know, like changes a lot
of a lot of earth, you know, surface or or
content or something like that. All you ever get in
there is a thing called creep, and that happens over

(01:31:34):
you know, maybe a few centimeters or maybe as much
as maybe a one meter a year or something like that.
And so that only takes place because it's a physical
and theological impossibility, or there'd be a major poll shift
like they're showing these movies, a terrestrial poll shift, so

(01:31:55):
that doesn't occur, just creep and then so that doesn't
occur like they show in the movie. The scientists would
never believe that kind of a thing would happen like that. Now,
continental drift. That one takes maybe millions of years for
that to take place. You know, that's why we have
you know, North America and in South America. You know,

(01:32:17):
it looks like they may have split up split up
from Africa one time or something like that. That's continents,
but it takes millions of years. It doesn't happen like
suddenly or something like that. And even this you know
thing about which you might have his creep, he's only talking.
You're only talking about maybe a meter or something or
you know, so many centimeters every year. It's a very

(01:32:38):
small amount, so you don't have a major shift like
in that movie. I think it was called twenty twelve
or whatever it was. But whatever. There's these things. It's
not scientific there. It's like your teeth and your mouth.
They're fixated and anchored in there to the mantle in
this case on it for the earth and the gums.
You can't shift your teeth on the front of your
teeth to the back and the back of the front

(01:33:00):
and all this kind of stuff. The same thing with
the earth. It doesn't shift like that because it's anchor
to the mantle. And they make it like an orange
that is kind of a you know, maybe dry or
something like it. You can change the skin of the
outside the orange around to make it make a pressural

(01:33:24):
pull shift out of it, but that doesn't occur with
the Earth because it's already anchored in to the mantle.
So some of these they just make this concept about
an orange that it's like it would rotate like an
outer skin of an orange if it's like it's dry
or something to the inner party, but doesn't happen on

(01:33:44):
the Earth because the anchor to the mantle. So I
want to get those straighten out between the three different
pole shifts, if people get confused between celestial pullshift, terrestrial pullshift,
magnetic bullshift.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
Did you want to take questions from some of the viewers, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Go ahead, Just want to get a little drink here
or second.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Yes, right ahead, right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Viewers that want to ask questions, you can call one
five zero one three six five one zero six two.
That's one five oh one three six five one zero
six two. If you have a question for mister Hoff by.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
The way, professor Santos, because he able to make these
discoveries of seminal research on this, he's like there was
one he was like the Atlantian's uh, you know U
representative and uh he represents the ancient Atlantians from deep
depresent antiquity regarding his whole destructive Atlances because the passion
of his of his professor Santos back in two thousand

(01:34:43):
and five September ninth think it was a date that
could fail to me. So I'm I'm their actual representative
now to bring out this whole information to the world,
as professors Sansos wanted to make the gift to the world.
So that's what is been coming on me now to
do that. And I've been doing it for a number
of years, and so I don't know how long I'll
keep on being able to do as long as I live,

(01:35:03):
I guess, but that's what this information has been held
secret for basically at least over ten thousand years, and
so it's we were trying to get this out to
the whole world. So and I'm still a student of
the whole project and learning myself because there's so many
different pieces to this puzzle. It's like say a billion
plus piece puzzles got scattered all around the world and

(01:35:25):
some information got destroyed, like in the Great Library in
Alexandrew Egypt. You know, we lost maybe three quarters of
million scrolls. And the person figured that out was actually
doctor Carl Sagan, the astronomer.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
I'm very familiar with doctor Sagan.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Yeah, he actually died here cancer the bred Hedgeson Cancer
Institute in Seattle. I don't know if you knew that
I did not.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
I'll give the number out once again if anyone has
questions for doctor health one five zero one three six
five one zero six.

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
Two already but took off from Amoral.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Day possibly so probably went in my area. I think
a lot of them go camping on the World Day weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Wouldn't be surprised because to say it about forty a
weekend or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
Yeah, yes, Friday, a lot old.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
On a second, I hit someone in chat Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Oh, I'm going to look up that other question. You
have to picture.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Hello, you're on the air.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:36:28):
I have a couple of questions from mister Haf, one
from a listener and one from my own personal stop. Okay,
so my first question for mister Haf is what metal
were the outer walls of Atlantis UH purportedly aligned with?
And then the second question is Part two is from
Lady Moisemury and the discord chat. She asked, where is

(01:36:51):
a Lantis and do they have any evidence of it existence?

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Okay, first question, richlcom is the line that and that's
like with they had used a brass and bronze, you know,
the line walls, you know, and then it could have
done with some gold too, but mainly the brass and
the bronze just made copper, tin and zinc, you know.

(01:37:17):
And they had a lot of copper and a lot
of tin and a lot of zinc. So they had
those strategic metals and they like to show some of
it off. They use them in weapons though. And what's
the other question about the location of Atlantis? Was it?

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
Yeah? Has it been found in what's the location?

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
Well, the location is in the in the Aesi in
the area of Southeast Asia. That's the true original, real location.
It's not a remnant, it's not a colony, but it's
a true, original, real location. That's where we found it
out to be because it has the size of the
area that needs to be based on play those works
and other contemporaries like Diadorus and Homer and Cleanian the

(01:37:55):
Elder and the host of other contemporaries of his time.
It's the size of the continent on the United States
with Alaska and why it combined. That's how big it is.
So you need the size of you know that it's
not like over in Santorini or something like that, where
you have a small little volcano or small area. It
would never build a requirement of the critics and meds

(01:38:19):
dialogues as outlined by Plato, and that's where the main
story came from. All these other contemporaries also filled in
some of the pieces of the puzzle. At the time,
they weren't didn't talk about this too much because you know,
it considered like heretics or something like that. So Plato
had to be careful. He ended the thin It was

(01:38:40):
the crittiest early too. I mean, I don't know why
he didn't finish it all, because you may have been
you may have been caught or something, you know, and
maybe maybe he's arrested or something. I don't know. I
found the page where the the Pueblo Indians and the

(01:39:02):
ruins are okay, look in concentsus circles, and that's on
page one oh eight of our book. And that's on
chapter six in our book it talks about the Pubbo
Indians and this is out of mainly Colorado, but I
think that they also go into New Mexico if I
remember that right?

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
All right, any more questions from any ones?

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Okay, I got something here too. Okay, I mentioned I
was gonna mention this before. Uh. In many maps, Atlantis
is listen listed as to pop least ancient maps to
poverty t A p r O b A n E
or tap ravana another word for that spano oph. These

(01:39:48):
are other words tobola, drap you, the c pola and
also el Dorado. There is another name for the alias
name for Atlantis, because it's known as that. It's the
Islands of Bless southern Islands of Blefs known as a

(01:40:09):
U and drab though it's known as Tamra Parana and
sanscript is Tamra Parna. So all these different names, there's
a lot to remember. And the tiwed to pronounce some
of them too is one another thing.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
I'm checking some of the other areas to see if
there's any other questions and they can ask on YouTube
and then twitch and also discord.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
Yeah, the main thing why the reason the location again
is people that tune in late is that the location
is actually and this is encoded in the word Atlantis
itself in three different languages, Ancient Sanscript or Ancient Greek
Sanscript and Dravida, and that is it's in tipital It's
located in Tipital from western from Europe going west, it's

(01:41:00):
the opposite side of the world. And so it's located
on the opposite side of the world in the sunken
marsh sunken mountain marshland and that area is Southeast Asia
or Indonesia specifically. It may have included the Philippines at
one time, but it's broken up, as you can see
on the front cover or book or else on our website.

(01:41:24):
By the way, I'm just going to mention that our
well I mentioned first of all. Our our book is
Atlantis the Lost Continent Finally Found, and the subtitle is
the definitive localization of Plato's Lost Civilization. The bail billable
on Amazon and also on Penguin Books as well, and that's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Also a w W W W dot A t l
A N dot org. Is the website, yeah, or.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
At Lantis Publications dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
Okay, anyone else wants to call a number again is
one five, one three, six, five, one zero six two.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
By the way, here's something else too. We're not in
this for any particular religious or social or or you know,
even monetary value or something like that, or agendas. We're
not here for any particular agenda at all. Only general

(01:42:30):
we have is to get the truth out. And one
of the things that we wanted to let everybody know
is that is that some of these like splorers, like
Christopher Columbus was looking for if you grammer in school,
for the East Indies, well not the West Indies like
over in the Caribbean, but the East Indies, which is

(01:42:54):
the Dutch East Indies. And they ran into the Americas,
and they found out and then and by because it
was in the land areas in the way, and so
they were always trying to get to the East Indies.
But they figured out that they actually didn't hit the
East Indies at all when they ran into the Americas.
And uh, Columbus supposedly actually landed on a place called

(01:43:16):
San Salvador Island when he first came. And then also
that it came to the the continental you know, America's
too over time, and that area of San Salvadores was
today is part of the British Bahamas. And he figured

(01:43:36):
out quickly that the Native Americans that were here were
not Indians, like you know they're looking for the East Indies.
They originally thought they were Indians. They called them Indians.
So the name stuck, and so a misappropriated name because they, uh,
that was they thought they hit the East Indies. And
they figured out about a month or maybe a couple

(01:43:58):
of months later that they but they this is not
the place there that they're come into. And so but
the name stuck over time, and so that's why we
call it the Native Americans here Indians anybody. It should
have been applied to India or Indonesia, you know, actually

(01:44:18):
means isles or islands of India. That's what the name
Indonesia stands for, or islands close to India. So I
thought I fill in a couple of those little gaps too.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
Yeah, I had one last question. Has anyone done any
underwater research in that area or like micro subs and
stuff like that looking in for stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Well, I can't get into all that right now, but
we're working on some of those things. But I can't
disclose everything without what we're actually doing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
Yeah, I understand that's no problem.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
We do have a vessel though part of our associates,
that's about nineteen meters long, and they equipped with side
scan sonar and bottom sides sonar and an ROV and
diving equipment and and and other sorts of equipment on

(01:45:12):
board as well. So but you know, this stuff all
takes money, you know, and so it's great to have
some sponsors it might be interested in doing it. Otherwise.
I got to do most of this myself, you know.
So there's a million things to remember, a million things
to check out, a billion plus piece puzzle which Professor

(01:45:33):
Chanslers did a lot to put together, you know, concisely
without trying to force fit it like a lot of
researchers or atlantologists try to do to make it fit
that their agenda or something like that. We don't have
any other agenda now to get the truth out. There's
no social, political, religious agenda or anything like that. So

(01:45:54):
we just let the pieces fall where they may. I
don't know every question or answer right off the top
of my head, and some of my stuff still checking out,
but I got the gist of most of it. It's
just we need to get more of this information out.
I think I did talk about the meridian earlier being

(01:46:18):
at one time over Atlantis, Indonesia over basically between Sumatra
and it is today and then Borneo. But it used
to be a zero degrees latitude zero degrees longitude until
it got changed over England and then previously that with
France and previous that the Canary Islands. By the way,

(01:46:42):
the cross of Atlantis up on the website, but also
if you do a cross circle, that's another another form
of showing the location of Atlantis. It's just a circle
with a cross in the middle of it, So that
may be on some of these different types of pillars
and things like that around the world to see that
signified and usually some connection to Atlantis.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
Yes, sir, well, I'm sorry I didn't have more callers
or questions comes into the websites.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
Well, if I had a feeling maybe some of these weekends,
like what the memorial is going on, this things change
around a bit and people have to leave ear other
than try to beat the traffic or get on an
airline or something like that. Yeah, anyhow, we're again, We'll
be with Georgia Norri on Saturday, June twenty eighth at

(01:47:31):
five pm as a three hour event at the Historic
Everett Theater and Everett Washingtown on Colby Street. You can
go up to the Everett Historic Theater website for tickets
or else to go to Coast to coastam dot com
website and go to events and then scroll down to

(01:47:52):
the one for the Everett event that I'm going to
be speaking at.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Thank you. I'll also post that on my site. On
the ass shows stasists to go into the archives and
that information will also be listed there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
I think we're coming up to the top of the
break here.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
Uh yeah, do you want to cover some more stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Or I think we got the most of it, you know,
let's have callers going to call in. I think we've
covered most of it, you know, as far as I
can see.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
I would like to have you back on in the
future when this show becomes a little more popular than
he is. Like I say, this is my third actual show, and.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
Well, yeah, here's a couple of suggestions for you too.
We could have on here along with myself, Danny Hillman,
Natoli Jaia. I'm sure I did come on speak about
uh Ganoon Padan and other concerns about Atlanta's Indonesia. He's
a cheap geologist there for doing this project, and he's

(01:48:55):
done the scientific work as far as on Ganoon Padoan
and some other sites, so he'd be a good one
to have on. Also, my associates who have the vessel
ship I mentioned they might be interested coming on as well,
so maybe we can share a broadcast together and go

(01:49:16):
over this again work. So with that, I think we're
just mentioned that our website is at www dot a
t l a n dot org or at Lamps's Publications
as plural In Publications dot com at Lansis Publications dot com.
And again the natename of our book is at Laanses

(01:49:38):
The Lost Continent Finally found. The subtitle is the Definitive
Localization of Plato's Lost Civilization and the author of the
book is Professor Ricio Santos and you can also check
out his curriculum, vota or or resume on on our website.
It's rather extensive. These He was a fully tenured professor

(01:50:03):
professor of academia Nuclear physics, nuclear engineering, physical chemistry, and
he did work on studying anthropology comparative religion and archaeology
and whole host of other things. It's all listed there
for people to see who you're actually who we're talking about.

(01:50:25):
And again, this is his gift to the world. So
with that, I'm going to say good evening to you
and all your listeners. Carl and it's been a pleasure
with you in going through this broadcast and interview.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Well, thank you for being on the show, and we'll
be back in touch in the future. You can bring
on some of your colleagues and we can do a
good show like that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
Yeah, that'd be fine. I'm glad to do that. I
hope your show grows too and gets bigger and bigger.
How long you've been on for.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
This will be the third week?

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
Third week? Okay, all right, good. It takes some time
to grow somewhat. You know, there's a lot, a lot
of pieces to it, and I'm sure you'll get better
and better and more bigger audiences and things as time
goes along.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
Yeah. I will recommend that book to the listeners too.
It was an interesting read.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
It's very informative, lamps has a lot of content, and
it's finally found book. Yes, yes, yeah, it's available in
soft cover and it's also available in the book too.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
I think, yes, sir, it's on Kindle, but they don't
have the pictures, just the text.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
Yeah, well the book is probably better to get the
actual book and uh and uh and get that because
it's a lot easier to just to read it there
and chose the pictures and everything is pretty complete. And
then plus it links back to the little the little
book links too to our website. So they're a little

(01:51:57):
small numbers. You have to take a look at them,
and they're not they're in every page, but there's a
lot of pages are on the go, friend, zeros are
a one to one eighty seven. There's information in the
book towards the front first part of the book or
so about the book links. So I need to figure
out where to go to them. They're on our website

(01:52:18):
and it's under Atlanti's book links. That's what it's under
Atlantis book links on our website. Okay, that's for more
detail of information. By the way, again, more than one
eighty seven of them, it's closer to four hundred links
because each link has usually three or four book links
attached to it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
Well, thank you, sir, and I look forward to having
you on in the future. I appreciate you for being here.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
You too, thank you very much for the interview, Carl,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Thank you sir.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
Good evening to all you and all your listeners. All
the best.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
You have a good night you too.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
Bye bye bye.

Speaker 7 (01:52:53):
Bye, said.

Speaker 5 (01:53:56):
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