Marilynn Hughes Friday June 13th 2025

Marilynn Hughes founded The Out-of-Body Travel Foundation in 2003 (Mission: Reduce Spiritual Hunger Worldwide). Marilynn has experienced, researched, written, and taught about Out of Body Travel and Mysticism since 1987 and has spoken on dozens of radio and television programs to discuss her thousands of out of body experiences. She has studied the Ancient Sacred Texts of all Major and Minor World Religions, as well as Catholic Mystical, Ascetical, Biblical, Doctrinal, Dogmatic, Systematic, Liturgical, Catechetical and Moral Theology. She has also studied Individual Schools of Theology, to include Franciscan, Carmelite, Ignatian, Dominican, and Benedictine. Marilynn has also trained as a Remote Viewer in Transdimensional, Controlled and Associative Remote Viewing and is a Hypnotherapist. She received certifications in various psychological and therapeutic modalities including NLP, REBT, CBT, ACT, DBT, MBCT, EFT, TFT, SFBT and NBA Therapies.
Marilynn Hughes has authored 138 books, 40 magazines and 18 CD’s on Out of Body Travel and Comparative Religious Mysticism including her seminal classic The Mysteries of the Redemption: A Treatise on Out-of-Body Travel and Mysticism, which was in development to become a feature film/tv series. She was featured in the documentary film, The Road to Armageddon: A Spiritual Documentary, and in Documentary Film Productions: The Grand Phases of the Soul, The Stairway from Earth to Heaven, How to Have an Out-of-Body Experience, The Tao of Mysticism, The Initiations into the Mysteries, The Rites of Passage, The Prayer of the Twelfth Hour and At the Feet of the Masters.

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 10 (04:13):
Evening from the Ozark Foothills of northeast Arkansas. I'm Carl Richardson,
and you're listening to midnight frequency radio. Tonight's guest is
Marilyn Hughes. Miss Hughes founded the Alibody Travel Foundation in
two thousand and three. Miss Hughes has also experienced, research, written,
and taught about alibody, travel and mysticystem since nineteen eighty seven,

(04:34):
and has spoken on dozens of radio and television programs
to discuss her thousands of alibody experiences. She has studied
the ancient sacred text of all major and minor world religion.
Miss Hughes has authored one hundred and thirty eight books,
forty magazines, and eighteen CDs on alibody travel and comparative

(04:55):
religious mysticism. Good evening, Miss Hughes, and welcome to Midnight
Freguancy Radio.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Hi Carl, it's great to be here. Thank you for
the invitation.

Speaker 10 (05:06):
Well, I've read a lot of your literature, but I
think my first question would be how you got involved
in this subject matter.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Well, you know, I think it kind of found me.
You know, I started having experiences in my early childhood
and then it kind of dissipated and it came back
in my early adulthood. I started journaling the experiences, and
I guess I'd say the rest is history. Those journalings

(05:39):
that I did, you know, became the first books that
I started writing. And you know, over time, I started
seeing these patterns and you know, things that were coming
out of it, and wow, I had no idea, you know,
how much could come out of it, but it sure did.

Speaker 10 (06:00):
You know, is a out of body experience somewhat frightening,
I guess in the beginning.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
In the beginning, it can be because of the sheer
powerfulness of it to some extent. For the most part,
most of the time, that's what people are going to
be the most afraid of, is the sheer powerfulness of it.
Sometimes it's just you know, the the fear of that unknown.

(06:28):
It can also be, you know, fearfulness of things that
you know, people can have genuine need to be afraid of,
you know, people can have experiences with you know, the
dark side, you know, but for the most part, most
people are afraid of the sheer power of it. You know,

(06:49):
you go into a vibrational state. The vibrational state is extremely,
extremely powerful. I often compare it to the power of
a Jeda engine. It's like the sound, it's like having
a jet engine right next to your ears. The vibration itself,
it's it's like your body is being revvd like a

(07:11):
jet engine, and so you're experiencing something that is so
far outside of your normal physical experience. That that in
and of itself can be really frightening in the beginning,
but you do adjust to it fairly quickly and realize
it's just the literally, it's your psyche adjusting to the

(07:35):
vibration of the spirit versus the vibration of the physical form.
Physical form has a much lower vibration than the physical
other than spiritual body, which has a much higher vibration.
So when you flip into that vibration of the spirit,
it's a very very significant shift. And so it's it

(07:59):
can blow your mind in the very beginning.

Speaker 10 (08:01):
Yes, I'm sure it would me. I've heard other people
discussing the experience where they've had like hands reaching for
their ankles trying to pull them downward. Have you read
that experience.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Or I have not? No, No, I have not.

Speaker 10 (08:24):
That's probably a good thing.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
So, yeah, that that that does sound a little bit
a little bit, a little bit borderline borderline there, Yes,
in terms of a little bit concerning Yeah.

Speaker 10 (08:39):
I guess that would be the lower realms of the
that could Yeah, that.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Could be sometimes you can have situations either with ghosts,
wandering spirits, that could be any number of things. Uh,
and this is you know, that could get very complicated
in terms of trying to explain that differences between dealing
with the higher vibrational beings versus the wandering spirits, the

(09:09):
lost souls, the ghosts which are wandering around like the
astral realm, which is that fourth dimension, the fourth dimension
which overlaps our third dimensional sphere of existence, which is
where we reside, and that's where you have those those
types of souls that are not really after your highest good,

(09:34):
let's put it that way, you know, and they're kind
of you know, there are you know, they can be tricksters,
they can be they can have darkness in them, and
they can you know, they can also just they can
they can be malicious as well. So it can there
can be quite a wide chasm in there between what

(09:55):
you're dealing with, and then there are of course even
lower types of things things that people can be dealing with.
And so, uh, that sort of description would would give
me pause as to you know, what someone dealing with.

Speaker 10 (10:15):
In all of your out of body experiences and your
spiritual encounters, is there one most impactful thing that stands
out to.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
You, one most impactful Oh, my goodness, you know, I've
had so many, thousands of experiences, I would say that
the times, I mean, there is so many, there are
so many, I'll just pick one, you know, I would

(10:46):
say probably the most impactful experience that I had when
it was when I was given the opportunity to go
to this throne room of God and experience. And this
is really hard to explain, and so I apologize for
the inadequacy of language. But I was allowed to experience

(11:11):
and move with the mind of God, so to speak,
for several hours through one night, and I was it
was like I was experiencing how God was moving with
millions of different souls, every different every moment, every second,

(11:33):
and for that period of time, I was able to
process and experience the entire story of these millions of
souls that He was helping every second, and I was
feeling it, experiencing it, understanding it, and understand what God

(12:00):
was doing with each one of these souls in every
second throughout the night. So like from a simple from
a simple thing like trying to help an older woman
find her lost wedding ring, because finding that lost wedding

(12:22):
ring would rekindle some kind of memory that was going
to be vital for her in some type of spiritual
awakening that she needed, to another soul who was going
to have some type of very important religious awakening, To
another soul who was going to have something done to

(12:43):
their spirit to understand and have something awaken within them
on the knowledge of the angels, to another soul who
I mean, it was just it was infinite. It was infinite.
And what was so fascinating about this experience I can
never in words, and I know I'm doing a terrible
job of it right now, was that I really understood

(13:07):
that night that God really does see each and every
one of us at all times, and for that moment
I got to experience how and that it really was significant.
It really was. It really was substantially real in the

(13:32):
mind of God that we were all present there at
the same time, and He was moving constantly through the
universal field of being, and He was moving and making
these alterations throughout the vibration of life and doing things
that were going to help different souls, to help them

(13:55):
with whatever the next step was in their individual evolution.
And I cannot express that experience sufficiently. It was just
so amazing. It was so amazing.

Speaker 10 (14:11):
It sounds quite overwhelming.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
It really was. It was just I was in a
state of ecstatic bliss, you know when I returned from it,
And every time I think of it, it brings me
back to the awe of it, the awe of it.
And I've had so many beautiful experiences, you know, from

(14:36):
spending time with the saints, to being with our Lord,
with the Blessed Mother, with different prophet saints, mystics, stages
asatics from throughout time and history, from every religion, from
every culture, and being taught at the feet of the
masters from throughout time and history, and experiencing these vibrations

(15:03):
which are then you know, given and transferred to me
in some way to help me to transform as well
to educate me, but also to help me to a
rise to a higher vibration. Because one of the things

(15:24):
I always talk about in my interviews is that knowledge
is not information, it's vibration. And that's one of the
most important things that I've learned throughout all these years
of having thousands of these out of body experiences. It's
knowledge is vibration, and that the more that you travel
through these spheres, what's happening is knowledge. You are you

(15:46):
are being taught things. But the purpose of all these
things is that your vibration is being raised. You even
go through these vibrational raisings over time, and as you
go through these vibrational raisings, you become capable of going
to higher and higher spheres of development and into higher

(16:10):
spheres of existence. And as you continue to move, then
you start understanding and understanding and understanding these higher and
higher fields of being. And it's all about vibration. Is knowledge.
Information is not the knowledge. The knowledge is vibration. And

(16:32):
so this is the most important thing to understand. It's
this vibration. And this is partly how we can sometimes
really put together what many of the great sages and
aesthetics have said to us throughout history. You know, even
in the paths of Taoism, in the paths of Zen,
and in the paths of the great masters of the

(16:53):
Christian tradition, and many of the traditions, you know, the
mystics of the Kabbalah, the mystics of Hinduism and Buddhism,
and all of these paths, even the Hindus of the
mystics of the Sufi tradition, and all of these mystic
paths is that this is all about this ability of

(17:17):
us to go to this higher vibration. Does that make sense, yes.

Speaker 10 (17:24):
Ma'am, And of course it'll be On Friday the thirteenth,
I was having audio trouble which thanks to one of
my listeners in chat let me know, so I appreciate
that panel. All right, let me get back on the
right track here through the years. Is there any any

(17:49):
particular people that have influenced you the most with astro
projection and spirituality?

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Well, the irony of that question is that in my
out of body experiences, I was led and guided to
study the paths of the ancient sacred texts, and that included,
you know, the writings of the prophets, saints, mystics, sages

(18:20):
and ascetics from all traditions throughout the world. And so
there are a lot of a lot of these greats
that I have been, you know, impacted by. I would say,
you know, some of my favorites would be Saint John

(18:41):
of the Cross is one of the greatest mystical writers,
I would say, who exists. But there are so many
in terms of not just their writings, but their lives,
the vibration that they've left behind You know, one of
the things that I wrote, I wrote a book called

(19:04):
at the Feet of the Masters, and then we did
a two part documentary called at the Feet of the Masters,
which is about the the vibration that we receive when
we just sit at the feet of a master. And
there is this vibration that we receive when we just
listen or sit at the foot of a master and

(19:28):
receive of their wisdom, their vibration, their guidance. And there
are so many of these, just some that come to mind,
you know, Guru Nannic of the uh these U of
the Sikh tradition, the all of that, and then there's

(19:50):
so many Saint Catherine of Siena, all of There's so
many of these mystical saints in the Catholic tradition. There's
Saint Hildegarden being in There's Saint Francis of Assisi, the
Carmelite Saints, Saint Teresa of Avellah. But there's also so

(20:13):
many in these other traditions as well. For instance, Rumy
Rumy is probably one of the one of the deepest
mystical poets, and and he's so fascinating because his mystical
poetry is so deep and it is so mystical, and

(20:36):
I think sometimes sometimes maybe a lot is missed if
you're not someone who is a traveler so to speak.
You know, a lot is missed in his words because
he says so much with so few words. There are
so many, uh, the Buddha, you know, the Buddha, and

(21:01):
so many of the Buddhist masters and teachers. There are
so many of the Jewish rabbis that have been Moshi
Luzato was one of my favorites. Who wasn't one of
the mystical cabbalists really a great writer of the Jewish tradition.

(21:24):
There were so many, There are so many. I hope
that's helpful, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 10 (21:31):
In everyone's life is understanding consciousness a big part of
their understanding it a big part of their spiritual journeys.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
I'm sorry, did I.

Speaker 10 (21:56):
It's understanding consciousness a big help with each individual's independent
spiritual journeys.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Oh yeah, definitely, it is a big help in you know,
the path of out of body traveler. Mysticism is absolutely helpful.
You know, there's a whole science behind it. It's the
science of mystical theology. Actually, there's a whole science behind it.

(22:28):
I have a whole you know, a bunch of shelves
over here filled with some of the greatest works on
mystical theology, not just from Western traditions, but lots of
Eastern traditions as well. You'd be surprised the work that's
been written all over the world in the ancient sacred

(22:49):
texts on mystical theology. And mystical theology is in essence,
it's the science of the soul. But it is the
science of the purification of the soul. And ironically, one
of the things that I've been taught in my out
of body experiences has been that one of the things

(23:09):
that we all come here to do is the purification
of the soul. And so mystical theology is this great
science of the purification of the soul, because that's what
we're all kind of here to do. And the more
that we actually study that science of the purification of

(23:31):
the soul, whether it's through these great works or through
the actual practice or a combination of both, the more
we are traveling towards the you know, the destination that
are our life here on earth is actually intended to reach,

(23:51):
which is, you know, that purity that we're all trying
to achieve. And you'll find that in my book Books
and stuff. I talk a lot about this path of purification.
In the book that I often recommend for people when
they're starting out, The Mysteries of the Redemption, a treat

(24:12):
us on out of body travel and mysticism. It lays
out the path of purification and then the following paths
that come after. And we also did a film, a
documentary film called The Grand Phases of the Soul. And
by the way, you can go to our website at
outobodytravel dot org and you can download these things freely,

(24:36):
so you can read these things, you can watch our films.
It's all free. You can do that. You can also
purchase anything if you like to, you know, have hard
copies or whatever. You can do that as well. But
you can go there and you know, download this stuff freely.
And and so you can go watch that and learn

(24:58):
about the Grand Phases of the Soul, which is purification,
the discrimination pathway, and the discipline pathway, which is actually
modeled on the Buddhist pathways of the great Grand Pathways
of the soul. And so but you know, these are
the great monastic pathways and there's similar pathways that are

(25:20):
laid out in the Great Christian traditions as well. You'll
see it as well in the Islamic pathways of the Sufis,
and you'll also find it in Buddhism and Hinduism and
in all paths. You'll find it in the tribal cultures
as well. So this sort of path is something that

(25:45):
is actually innate to pretty much all of us because
it is actually the reason that we incarnate here to
this sort of realm. And what kind of realm are
we in? We are in what's called a mortal realm.
This is where the battles between good and evil rage,
and they rage here within us and all around us.

(26:11):
And this is why this is the type of place
we incarnate for this path of purification. And so this
is something we all share. So if you're incarnate here,
you can be assured that this path of purification is
completely relevant to your spiritual path. And so it makes

(26:33):
it simple, right, It simplifies it for us that, oh, okay,
so this has something to do with me and why
I'm here and what I need to take a look at,
what I might need to know a little bit more
about while I'm you know, while I'm traveling this earthly road.

Speaker 10 (26:52):
You know, Yeah, have you had any challenges in your
spiritual practice?

Speaker 4 (27:00):
I've had so many challenges. But you know, the thing,
the thing, uh, there's so many that it's gonna be
hard to pick any out, but I'll try. You know,
I had I've had a lot of serious health on
situations that I've dealt with, And I've had all the

(27:23):
normal things that are part of the spiritual path, the
the things that come along, which are the the you know,
the aridities, the the times where you feel far away
from God, the times when when you feel like everything

(27:46):
is taken from you and you don't know where, you know,
all kinds of things that occur that are pretty normal parts,
you know, the dark nights of the soul.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
The uh.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
I think that it's there's so many, there's so many
difficulties on the spiritual path. It might be easier if
you point out ones that you might want to talk
about in particular. But you know, the health things are
ones that people deal with a lot. And I dealt
with some really really serious health things and and still do.

(28:26):
But you know, and uh, you know, I was given
a terminal diagnosis twenty five years ago. I was supposed
to get a heart transplant and that ended up not happening,
and I wasn't supposed to, you know, live for more
than a few years. And here I am, and I

(28:47):
had this beautiful experience where I had a near death
experience and I was taken to the tunnel and I
wish shown a few things. I was shown about how
I was allowed to go and take a journey. And

(29:09):
Christ was there and he took me beyond the tunnel
and showed me a lot of the beautiful worlds beyond
beyond there, and I was allowed to see a lot
of really beautiful things, and it was really awesome. And
then he shared with me the this understanding about how

(29:34):
our life here is really going. It's the purpose of
our life is really can be very easily simplified to
that we are supposed to go from selfish selfishness to selflessness.
And he showed me where I was on that scale

(29:55):
of selfishness to selflessness. He showed me where those are
me were on that scale. And he told me that
at that time it was okay for me to go
if I needed to go, I could go if I
wanted to go. It was okay, it was perfectly fine.

(30:16):
It was I had done everything I needed to do.
But if I wanted to go back, I could. And
at the time, my kids were very young, very very young.
And I looked at him and I said, well, as
long as it's still you know, my choice. I think

(30:37):
I want to go back because my kids are so young.
I have to go back and try to raise my kids,
you know. And so he said, well, then I want
you to go back, and I want you to pray
for a heart transplant. And I just looked at him
and said, I'm sorry, Lord, I can't do that. And

(30:58):
he looked at me real intensely, you know, And I
just said, but I will go back, and I will
pray that you will spare the life of the perfectly
healthy person who would have to die for me to
get a new heart, and I will take my chances
with the one i've got.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
Wow, And that's deep.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
And he looked at me, gave me a very intense look,
and he you know, and I mean, you have to
kind of get a feel for the scene. I mean,
he's wearing the robes of the sacred Heart, which is
the deep red and the white you know, the striking
red and the white, and his hair is that deep

(31:42):
brown and his eyes are so deep brown and intense,
and he just looks at me and he says, I
grant that, and then he takes me. He takes my
hand and he starts flying me towards the earth again.
And we stopped somewhere before the earth and we're like

(32:06):
in a it's almost like a coffee shop, bookshop kind
of place. And this was like, you know, around two
thousand and three, so this was when we still had
those kinds of things, you know, And we sit down
at a table where, you know, behind us, there's like

(32:27):
the coffee shop goings on, and in front of us
there's some bookshelves. And he says to me, I'm not
going to heal you, but I'm going to help you.
And I just nod and he points at the bookshelves
in front of me, and he says something about those

(32:48):
books being He says, I'm going to I'm going to
make good use of you in the time that you
have left. And I, you know, I understand that those
books that he's pointing at our books that he wants
me to write. But he's pointing at an awful lot
of books.

Speaker 12 (33:05):
So I'm like, huh, I'm like, okay, huh. You know,
but I'm like, you know, I'm like, at the time,
I had written two books, you know, so you kind
of compare it to I've written one hundred and thirty
eight now, and it was two at the time. I
was like, hmm, okay, uh, okay, all right, you're the boss,

(33:30):
all right.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
But I you know, I did. I couldn't really comprehend it.
I was just like, okay, and but but it was, uh,
you know, it's going to make good use of you, okay.
And then all of a sudden, I wake up. And
what was interesting about this was, you know, I guess
we'll back up just a little bit. This was the

(33:53):
morning I was supposed to go into the hospital because
I had, uh, my heart failure had been getting a
lot worse, and so they had me going in that
morning to uh for a procedure. I was going in
that morning for a procedure. I lived in a small
mountain town. They were gonna have a chopper on standby,

(34:16):
and they were planning to do a cardiac catheterization and
the plan was then to fly me up to Denver
and have me stay in Denver, probably to wait for
a transplant. I'm assuming something like that, and that was

(34:37):
the plan. And basically, so I went to the hospital,
went under for this procedure. Whatever they did, they didn't
you know, they don't put you under, but they kind
of you're kind of loopy, and then whatever.

Speaker 10 (34:53):
Yeah, you know, I've had experience.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yeah. And then so I wake up or come out
of it a little bit later, and I'm still in
the same hospital. And so I just asked the doctor,
the cardiologist, and like, well, why am I still here?
And he said, well, we can't quite explain it, but
your heart's doing, you know, a little better than it

(35:19):
was last week. It's it's it's not healed, but it's
it's better enough that we aren't worried about you needing
to go up for the transplant anymore.

Speaker 10 (35:31):
That's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, and so and then, you know, so what ended
up happening was until twenty fifteen, I stayed in heart
failure and had the cardio myopathy and they just treated
me and then and I you know, I had the
heart failure all those years, and then in twenty fifteen

(35:55):
I actually did have a miraculous healing of the cardial
myopathy and the heart failure and it just spontaneously healed
and and it's been gone for almost ten years now.

Speaker 10 (36:11):
Wow, that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, and I am now. I live near the Mayo Clinic,
and my cardiologists here have said to me, they point
they made a point to point out to me. They said,
do you realize how bizarre and unusual it is for
that to happen? That does not happen? They're like, no,

(36:33):
but I appreciate you bringing it up, because, you know,
sometimes I don't realize that, you know, is this did
this just happen or you know? And it's a good
reminder that, yeah, I did get some help there, you know,
and a reminder to be grateful.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
You know.

Speaker 10 (36:52):
I have a similar heart condition. It's called idiopathic hypertrophic
suba ortic stenosis.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Oh wow.

Speaker 10 (37:00):
There's two treatments for that. They can go in and
what it is the muscle is enlarged below the aortic valve,
so when the heart beats, it doesn't pass as much
blood through the valve as it should because it's blocked.
And one treatment is going in and removing the excess
muscle just cutting it out, and that particular idea didn't

(37:23):
appeal to me. Yeah, And the other one is called
an alcohol setal oblasion, And they go in and balloon
off either side of the vein where that enlarged muscles
is at, and they inject it with alcohol and it
induces a heart attack, and it forces the muscle to die,

(37:44):
which in turn shrinks it and improves the situation. But
I opted for that instead of the open heart. That
didn't appeal to me at all. But we're pasted the
atom of the hour. I'm gonna go ahead and take
the first break. It's about six minutes long, so if
you need to refresh your drink or whatever, and we'll

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be right back after that.

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Shadows in the night, stories that they tell of beings
from the light in the door.

Speaker 11 (43:17):
They come alive, taking souls away underneath.

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The story veil where truth and dreams decay.

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A flash of light, then a body goes still.

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Voices echo softly, bending to their will. Sleepers in their
rooms caught in a trance, a moment of sweet terror,
an unspoken dance. Memories are race like dust in the breeze.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
What happened in that hour?

Speaker 5 (43:55):
They beg and they plead emotional scars that.

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Run so deep, waking the daylight, yet unable to sleep,
a lot of stars almost.

Speaker 10 (44:06):
And everyone, Welcome back to Midnight Frequency Radio. I'm your host,
Carl Richardson. Our guests once again is Marilyn Hughes. Miss Hughes. I,
I'm really amazed that you're recovery from your heart condition,
and to be honest, I think you had to mind
intervention and it's it's truly astonishing.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Oh thank you. Yeah, I think so too, And I
was very honored and grateful for that intervention. And yeah,
I'm not sure why, but I'm grateful.

Speaker 10 (44:39):
You need to write more books, that's.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Right, I guess.

Speaker 10 (44:41):
So are are you involved? With great dream interpretation.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
I try to do that sometime. I don't consider it
like my great gift, but I certainly do try and
and I do engage with that with my friends and
try to do that. I know, like one of my
one of the books in the new series that I
just released, is on dreams and sleep and a lot
of that kind of stuff, because you know, dreams and

(45:14):
sleeping is all part of you know, it's like the
precursor to the out of body experiences, and so I
do think that's all deeply related.

Speaker 10 (45:23):
Well, I had a dream my mother passed away in
May of last year.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.

Speaker 10 (45:29):
Pneumonia and then her organ started shutting down. But a
few days after that, I had a dream that we
were in her room and she was back there and
I'm like, mom, why are you here? You've passed away,
And she never said anything. She just walked from her
room out the front door and starting walking walking up

(45:51):
our road and walked away. And she never said anything
to me during the course of the dream. Yeah, and
that's puzzled me ever since I had You know, Oh.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
I don't think you need to be puzzled. I think
that it comes across to me as that you actually
pointed out to her that she had passed on and
that she began walking and that she was finding her
way home, you know, and she also was in a

(46:24):
sense wanting to say goodbye. You know, a lot of
times our loved ones really do want to say goodbye
as much as we do, and they'll try to find
an opportunity to do that, you know, either through a dream.
And a lot of people often experience even like an
apparition type thing where they appear at the foot of

(46:47):
their bed or things like that too, so some people
have it in their dreams. Some people will have those
apparition experiences where they appear, and other people experience fit
in other ways, like they have experiences with butterflies or
birds or balloons.

Speaker 10 (47:08):
Or yeah, you know, I guess the reason it affected me.
She didn't say anything to me, and I had to
make the final decision to take her off of life support,
and I was welt. The dream was showing me that
she was mad because I made the decision to do that.

(47:28):
But in the hospital right before we took her off,
you know, she could hear and she could squeeze, you know,
if you held her hand. She could squeeze her hand,
and I asked her, I said, mother, if you're ready
to go, if you're ready to pass, squeeze my hand,
and she did so. To me, that was a confirmation

(47:52):
that that's what she wanted. But then I had the
dream and it affected me, like, what was she angry
because I finally had to make because of the decision
that I made. But I did it because I simply
didn't want to see her suffering anymore.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
So, yeah, well, and you know, a lot of people
talk to me about situations like this, and you know,
in the basically, I don't think I've come across a
single instance where people had really much of a choice,
you know what I mean. And I think that if
you're really honest with yourself, you probably didn't have much

(48:29):
of a choice at you know, in the sense of,
you know, in our modern in our modern day, we
have this new scenario where, yes, we can keep people
alive so to speak, you know, but if a person

(48:50):
cannot you know, if we can keep a person you
know alive with quotation marks, but they cannot actually be
restored to life, so to speak. Maybe not really different,
it's a very different sort of thing than than like
a situation where maybe someone might you know, maybe they're

(49:14):
going to be in a coma for a couple of weeks,
but they might have a chance of recovery. Or But
we have a lot of situations, and this is what
I hear people share with me a lot, is where
this is just an end of life situation and uh, yeah,
we can keep them, we can keep them on machines,
but that that's a real question of is that really

(49:40):
what we should do? You know what I mean? Well,
and I think if if you're honest, I really bet
you did what the only thing you could do.

Speaker 10 (49:51):
Yeah, I guess anyone that has ever been in that situation,
I'm sure they feel a certain amount of guilt or everything.
But I guess a lot of people. I was closer
to my mother through the years. My dad served in
the army and when he got out, he became an alcoholic, okay,
and we had issues there. So you know, I say, mom,

(50:14):
I was always closer to Mom than I was him,
because I guess he caused so many trouble, so much
trouble through the years, and would try to get him
help he just refused so.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Well, and see I would interpret your experience differently, which
would be that she was in her room and you
pointed out to her that she had crossed over, and
she was like, oh okay, and she started walking. She
walked out the door and started walking, and you were

(50:48):
kind of giving her some direction. And to me, that
was not that she was angry. It's that she was confused,
which is a very typical situation for many people who
have crossed over, not just people who have crossed over
in that situation, but for people who have crossed over

(51:12):
in car accidents, for people who've crossed over in any
kind of situation where they didn't anticipate they were going
to you know, so unless somebody knew this is what's
going to happen, you know, then a lot of times

(51:33):
there can be like this period where there's a little
bit of confusion right after they crossed and they're like
not they're like, oh wait a minute, you know, because
they don't realize that they have actually died. And it's
not because they're upset with you, it's because she's just
not she hasn't figured that out yet. Yeah, and she's

(51:56):
just hanging out in her room, you know what I mean.
She's like oh, okay, I'm no longer a life, Okay,
so I need to figure out where I need to
go next, you know. And so you know the fact
that you didn't see her again after that is an
indication that I would actually consider really good because it

(52:20):
would indicate that help arrived for her and she was
given direction to the next steps of her journey. And
so to me, that would be good good information for
you too, that she found her way and she's, you know,
doing what she's probably needing to be doing, you know

(52:42):
what I mean. Yeah, I really think that you you
you know, And I also would encourage you to look
at it from the standpoint that and I'll just talk
to you from the standpoint of as a mother to
a son. You know, I'm a mother. I have a

(53:03):
son and two daughters, and I'm just going to talk
to you as a mother to a son that I,
as a mother would to say to my own son,
thank you so much for being courageous enough to be
the one to make that decision, and for being there
and holding my hand and being present during those difficult

(53:27):
times and being a part of my life during those
those years. You know, I think that I would really
think about that because as a mother, that's a real
gift that you were such a part of her life,
and that you made decisions and choices to be such

(53:50):
a such a big part of her life, and that
you chose to make those difficult decisions and to be
there with her, That you were right there with her
at her side even though it was difficult. And that's
what I would I would tell you as a mother
to her son to focus on, which would be thank

(54:14):
you for being there every step of the way with me.
That m more to me than anything else. I mean,
I can I can really say that as a feeling
almost I feel almost like tearful right now. Yeah, I
mean I almost wonder if feeling a little bit from
your own mother, but it's but it's also just as

(54:36):
another mother, you know. The this is kind of a
universal thing that we all feel, right you know. Thank
you for being there, Thank you for taking that journey
with me, you know what I mean. And that's what
I would think about more with with your mom, because

(54:58):
what a what a great thing that you have those
memories with her, you.

Speaker 10 (55:03):
Know, Oh yeah, very much, sixty one years memories with her.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Yeah, that's awesome, that's awesome.

Speaker 10 (55:14):
I'll get back to my regular questions here. How important
is meditation in your spiritual practice?

Speaker 4 (55:26):
Well, for me, it's really important. I do a lot
of meditation. It's almost daily for me meditation. And I
really encourage the meditation, especially in the beginning state of
people trying to learn about and achieve out of body travel,

(55:47):
and I encourage people to put in large blocks of
time and meditation where I encourage you to first of all,
life flat on your back. And the reason for that
is because if you're going to consider going out of body,
you want to be in a lying, lying position where

(56:08):
you won't like fall down and ruin it, you know,
so if you're sitting, that's not a good position to
be in when you want to go into the out
of body travel state, So you want to be lying down.
You want to consider doing three hour blocks, and the
reason for that is because the depth of consciousness that
you want to reach to get to the vibrational state,

(56:30):
it's kind of difficult to get there, especially in the beginning.
You know, as you continue your practice you're going to
get there much easier, but it takes sometimes years to
do that. So in the beginning you want to devote
you know, three hour blocks. Sometimes, I know a lot
of people can't do that all the time. So you
know what you can do what you can. If you've

(56:51):
only got fifteen minutes, do fifteen minutes, but realize that
you're going to need to incorporate some of these longer
time periods in order to go to the deeper, the
deeper levels of consciousness that you need to reach to
get to that vibrational state. So meditation is a big
one for me, and I continue to consider the meditation.

(57:14):
It's a daily practice for me, and so very few
days that I that I skipped the meditation.

Speaker 10 (57:21):
So important I live in the household that meditating would
be there impossible. I've got an eleven year old daughter
and I've got three dogs. One of them is husky,
and he will argue about anything until he's blue in
the face. He'll just sit there and argue with you. Yeah,
he's cute as canna be, but he's annoying sometimes.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
I've always gotten my pets, my dogs, my cats to
climb in bed and meditate with me. So I've always
loved doing that. But you do have to have a
certain time, that's for sure.

Speaker 10 (58:01):
Yeah, We whenever I sit down to work on a show,
my daughter wants something, or my wife wants something, or
the dogs want out or they want fed.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
That's true. That's true. When I had my kids at home,
I involved my kids into meditating, and you know, and
then later when they grew up, they complained about that.
So I don't know if I should should encourage that
or not. But you know, y'all work with what works

(58:35):
in your own home and with your own kids and everything.
But you can sometimes, you know, incorporate things into the
family life or whatever, and sometimes you can't. But so,
you know, do what works in your own home, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (58:52):
Yeah. One of my listeners in chats said, cats meditates, Well.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
They sure do. I got two cats now, yeah, and
she was great at meditating.

Speaker 10 (59:08):
They can do that. They're in a nuclear holocaust, and
I don't think you would bother them.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
May be fine.

Speaker 10 (59:20):
In your practice and spirituality, how do you perceive the
nature of reality based on your experiences? Well, you know,
it's like, is there a truth that you feel is
often overlooked?

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Well, I think that, gosh, that's a good question. I
think that the truth that we miss is the truth
of God. I mean, in today's world, we miss the
truth of God a lot because a lot of there's
a lot of secularism going on in the world today,
so we miss the truth of God and that God

(59:54):
is truly central, and that if we really want to
find mind, our bliss, our truth and our happiness and
what's truly going to be good for us and for all,
we have to find what is the will of God
for us in our lives. And and that's not a popular.

Speaker 10 (01:00:17):
Viewpoint most definitely not.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Yeah, yeah, But the reality is is that the more
that you seek that will of God, the higher you
go in the out of body travel experience. Because you know,
I'd like to ask you know, the listener to just
kind of imagine for a moment if what you're seeking,

(01:00:41):
So let's just you know, and I guess a lot
just depends on what are you seeking when you're seeking
out of body travel, And a lot of people will
have different answers to that. But in the in the end,
what are we seeking?

Speaker 10 (01:00:52):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
And you know, the answer for me is God right?
And if you look at the the answer in the
ancient sacred texts and the answer to the prophet saints,
mystic stages and aesthetics, the tribal cultures, the medicine, men
and women from throughout the ages, all these things that, ironically,

(01:01:14):
when I started having the out of body experiences that
I was led to go to, they're all looking for God.
They're all looking for the truth of God. So that truth,
that God, which is up there in the the highest heights,
in the center of the universe, then we have to
if we want to find that, then we have to

(01:01:37):
be going towards that. And so if we're kind of
just meandering around that, then we're going to kind of
miss the goal, the point of the experience.

Speaker 10 (01:01:49):
And so I think you just answered my next question
because I was going to ask what advice would you
give to someone starting their spiritual journey? But you hit
the nail on the head right there with what you
just said.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
There you go, yeah, And so you know, you go
back to what I was talking about earlier, which is
the path of purification, right, It's what are we purifying for.
It's because when you're seeking an all Holy God, we
are trying to become able to come closer and closer
to that all Holy God, and we are trying to

(01:02:25):
raise our vibration that purification raises our vibration to bring
us into compatibility to coming closer and closer to that
all holy God. And one of the things we miss
because of the fact that we have this, you know,
this secular world where it's very popular to think that

(01:02:47):
it's just really stupid to think of God. We miss
the fact that that's where the gold is. So we're
going to completely ignore or the entire purpose of our
existence here, which is to find Him and to know

(01:03:08):
love and serve Him. And that's where our bliss is.
That's where our joy and our love is. And the
irony too, Carl, that people don't understand, and this is
something that you know, this is something that I think
if people actually like study not just out of body trouble,

(01:03:31):
but near death experiences teach this. If people paid closer
attention to it, they would understand this so much better.
God is love and what we But there's so much
more too that that people are not understanding. There's so
there is an opposite to them, and so the further

(01:03:54):
we are away from God, there is an absence of
love too, and that's where we go into the darkness,
you know. So what is it that people want? People
want love. Right, So when we talk about God being love,
people don't understand what that really means. When you have

(01:04:18):
an out of body experience or a near death encounter
with the Almighty God and you experience that unconditional love
of God. And I've experienced it in so many different gradations,
different ways, and you know, in the near death experience,

(01:04:38):
but in so many thousands of ways, because I've had
thousands of experiences in the out of body travel state,
going in, you know, from you know, the initiations, into
the mysteries, the rights of passage, so many ways. So
hard to quantify here. Yeah, but what you are talking

(01:04:58):
about is that this love that God is is actually
what everyone is seeking. And so therefore, if everyone wants
love but yet they don't want God, they can never

(01:05:21):
actually reach what it is they're seeking. And you see
how easily the enemy thwarts each and every one of them,
turning them away from God, who is the source and
summit of all love that emanates in the entire universe.

Speaker 10 (01:05:40):
But think that it's very important. I guess when you're
getting into spiritual practices that you build a community with
like minded individuals.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
That yes, you know, and that's very much so. You know,
in the Christian world. You know, we talk about Christian community.
In the Buddhist world, they call it the sangha, you know,
and it is so helpful to have a community that
supports us in our spiritual search. And you know, and

(01:06:12):
in any community, in any community, whatever it is. You know,
the New Age community has a different kind of community
as well, where we have people who will direct us
and support us in that search. If that makes sense.

Speaker 10 (01:06:34):
Yeah, it does. When it comes to science and spirituality,
do you find there's a connection or any overlap in
both fields, Well.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
There definitely is, and ironically there is in the new
series of books that I just released as a twenty
eighth volume series called the Complete Out of Body Travel
and Astral Projection Series. There's twenty eight volumes. One of
them is on the science of out of body experiences
and it goes into a lot of detail about the

(01:07:06):
different things that are being discovered right now, and of
course that changes rapidly. There's a lot of things in
neuroscience that they're discovering and things like that, and I
think they'll continue to find those. Tho's connections between science
and mysticism. You know, I was asked to help with

(01:07:30):
the Free Organization in part because one of the things
they were discovering was that in quantum quantum science was
that the things that the ancient mystics had been saying,
speaking of animals, I have one right behind me causings

(01:07:50):
in trouble.

Speaker 10 (01:07:51):
Yeah, I got one right next to me, snoring.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Okay, you can cause trouble later, okay. But the things
that we were discussed, they were just that you know,
a lot of the ancient mystics had said they were
discovering in quantum science to be true, and so they
wanted to include some mystics to discuss some of the

(01:08:16):
things with their scientific work. And so these things are
really starting to merge. So a lot of the theories
about the oneness of all life, the mystical experience of
the universal field of being. I wrote an article with

(01:08:36):
doctor Rudy Shield on the science of moral law, which
is included in I Believe it is in my book
called Out of Body Travel and Mysticism, which explains how
doctor Rudy Shield explained how all a matter seeks to
embody itself, and then I'd explain the moral love heart

(01:09:02):
of it, and he explained how moral law and science.
We're showing this fascinating structure of how there seemed to
be an active element of moral law within universal law.
So there's all kinds of things that science is starting

(01:09:24):
to show that and a lot more. You know, you
can you can actually read the Science of out of
body Experiences and you can also read that article the
Science and Moral Law if you want as well at
the website out of Body travel dot org. So there's
a lot, you know, there's a lot. It's not just
a little bit that they definitely have a lot of

(01:09:47):
overlap going on. But I think in the end, if
I may just be so bold, the spiritual importance of
out of body travel will always overshadow the scientific simply
because I think the scientific is going to continue to basically,

(01:10:09):
I think it's going to continue to show new things.
But what the spiritual has always shown, what the spiritual
has always done, you know, we have always seen we
have this this body of work that's gone back for
five thousand years or more showing the amazing things that

(01:10:32):
have this this path of purification that began five thousand
years ago. It's nothing new. It's been going on for
forever and we've been seeing that the Spirit has been
working with souls from you know, long long ago, long

(01:10:53):
before time. You know hermis Tris mcgistus wrote about this
in the Divine Pimander. We see it in the writings
of Zarathustra. We see it in the writings of even
a little bit Inntin. We see it in many of
the writings of the great saints. We see it in

(01:11:14):
some of the writings of Gurunonic. We definitely see it
in the writings of Emmanuel Swedenborg, John of the Cross.
We see it in Saint Alfonso's Look wory gosh, I,
I could give you a list of thousands. So we
see this mechanism of the purification of the soul working

(01:11:36):
through the mechanism of the spirit, through mysticism and out
of body travel, has been moving for thousands of years.
So it's just going to continue to do this. And
we can choose to enter into this process regardless. And
the scientific things are going to continue to be discovered

(01:11:58):
and that's going to be awesome, but we have the
choice to go ahead and benefit from the spiritual purification.
The actual mechanism that the Spirit has already put in place,
that this has which alters and changes and directs us

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towards the redemptive process of our soul, which shortens our
journey here. It actually what often happens is we see
souls who get caught in this reincarnation cycle. They start
reincarnating over and over and over again because they get stuck.
But when you get into this process, you have the

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ability to accelerate this purification and then you have the
potential to possibly stop that and potentially ascend beyond that
after this lifetime. And so you literally are accelerating the

(01:13:07):
spiritual potential of your soul, and by a great deal.
So out of body travel is it's not just like
this really cool thing to do. It literally has this
huge spiritual potential.

Speaker 10 (01:13:24):
Out of body travel itself. Is that similar to remote viewing?

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Actually it's it's pretty different. A lot of people think
it's the same, but it's not. And I actually have
a book. Let me get the title to it. In
this book I wrote, it's called auta body travel, astral
travel and remote viewing Definitions, similarities, differences, spiritual potential, and

(01:13:51):
related hierarchies. And you can download that and I explain
the similarities and the differences in a step by step
manner because I am a trained remote viewer in three
different types of remote viewing, and and so I go

(01:14:12):
through the all the very very specific steps of what
you do when you're remote viewing and how it is
very different from out of body travel. They're just very
different modalities and they're both valid, they're just very different.

Speaker 10 (01:14:30):
Have you known people that got into the spirituality viewing
and out of body travel? They got into it for
the wrong reasons, I mean, you know, notorious reasons. I
guess I should say I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
I don't know any of them personally, but I hear
a lot about that happening, and certainly people can do that,
and you know, it can be it can be just
for you know, things is as rando them as you know,
parlor tricks or paranormal games or things like that. Or

(01:15:05):
it can be people who think that they're going to
make money or you know, I'm going to win the
lottery or things like that, and they kind of miss
the boat on the fact that any of these gifts,
whether it's remote viewing or out of body travel or
really any paranormal gift, they have to be treated with

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the spiritual respect and honor. That is given to any
holy gift that is given us, and so it has
to be honored properly. And so, first of all, out
of body travel, yes you can, you can play around
with it, but it's kind of pointless to do that.

(01:15:50):
It's highly unlikely you're going to be given any lottery
numbers or whatever. You know, you have to remember that
it's you know, the the whole point of the it's
it's a gift. It's a gift. It's a tool. And
the tool actually the purpose of it is that it

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is too uh, it is for higher spiritual development. And
then what you need to understand is that those who
actually work with us in out of body travel are
generally supposed to be the higher teachers, masters and guardians

(01:16:30):
and guides. However, you know, if you're playing around and
doing all kinds of dumb things, well, then you know,
then you can have all kinds of lost souls, wandering spirits, uh.
And you can even have evil spirits and uh, just
prick pranksters and tricksters, and and you can have all

(01:16:53):
manner of bad things that will play around with you.
And it can be it can get bad too, you know,
So you don't want to be doing that, because it's
just you're you have to think about It's no different
than if you're reaching out for help on earth. If

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you're reaching out for something that is holy versus something
that is unholy, it's going to be it's going to
be different. Now, Like, for instance, let's just give it.
I'm just gonna throw an idea out. Let's say you're
using a oigi board. Do you think an angel is
gonna answer? So who's gonna answer a wigi board? Okay,

(01:17:42):
just use your common sense, all right, you know, So
you have to understand angels answer prayer, you know, And
so you have to think about these things because your
you don't want to set yourself up to end up
getting yourself in trouble. The whole point of out of

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body travel is that you want to seek the truth,
no matter what that truth is, even if it's a
truth that is different than what you believed before. And
you want to know and love God, and you want
to learn who God is. You want to understand him.

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You want to. You want to you want to you
want to see yourself, even though that's going to be
difficult because when you go through the purification process, you're
going to be forced to face your own self, your
own You're going to be seeing things. You're going to
have your past lives revealed to you, and you're gonna

(01:18:48):
see things that you're not gonna love about yourself. You know,
you're gonna you're gonna see things like that. You're gonna
you're also gonna see the beautiful things. You're going to
see things that are harder to see. But you're also
going to be shown things that are going to contradict

(01:19:12):
your prior view of reality.

Speaker 10 (01:19:15):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
For instance, I'll tell you something that a gentleman shared
with me shortly before his death. This was a man
who was a Lutheran his entire life, and he came
to me shortly before he was dying because he knew
I was a friend with his wife, and he made

(01:19:37):
fun of us for most of it, because he didn't
believe in any of this stuff. And he came to
me because he had a near death experience and he
told me he said, I had this near death experience
and he said I was taken down this corridor and
he said everything I saw was from the ancient Roman rite,

(01:20:01):
the old you know, the old Catholic right. It was
all these traditional Catholic things, and he said it was
so holy, and I was going down this corridor and
he said, I just I just knew that I had
to become Catholic. And I was like, okay. And he
he became Catholic like three months before he died and

(01:20:25):
he was back, you know, his funeral was in Catholic church.
But he told me he saw all these like old
Catholic things, and he had his father was a Lutheran pastor.
And and I bring that up because because he was
shown all these things that were different from what he

(01:20:45):
had previously believed, but he saw it in a way
that it completely He knew for him that this was true,
you know what I mean, And he needed to do
something different for him. And I know that for me,
this happened to me too, and many many times. And

(01:21:09):
this is what I've seen with literally thousands of people
where they have these experiences and they are shown and
they see things and it's totally different from what they
previously thought to be true, but they know it's true.
And so we are we are faced with things that

(01:21:31):
are different. But the goal is to be prepared to
meet this all holy God, who is this emanation of love,
which is what everyone's seeking, and so we have to
be willing to learn what that is.

Speaker 10 (01:21:53):
Yeah, interpret it and understand it. Yeah, well, I'm alf
of my brain breaks, but we'll go ahead and take
another one. This breaks about five minutes and you can
come back. And I've put the information on the YouTube,
rumble and Twitch screens that if anyone has wants to
call in and ask you any questions, they're welcome to do. So, Okay,

(01:22:16):
we'll be right back here in just a few seconds,
a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Okay, thank you, Still miss over the night beneath the silver.

Speaker 10 (01:22:31):
Moon, weird lewis Per.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Secrets out in the quiet glue in the Catskills Mountains,
He felt that strange embrace. Lost in the shadows, he
found a different space.

Speaker 16 (01:23:03):
Time slipped away, like smoke through the trees. He questioned reality,
heard the haunting? Please, memories woven just out of reach,
Each flashback a mystery, each scream of silent breach?

Speaker 8 (01:23:24):
Can you hear thesus? Because visitors.

Speaker 14 (01:23:36):
Willis What began as a simple home improvement project turned
into a real life ghost story in Cordoba, Argentina, after
a man uncovered a hidden underground room with chilling secrets
buried inside. Cris Alis, a content creator known for exploring

(01:23:58):
the paranormal, was clear hearing vines in his garden when
he stumbled upon a weathered, overgrown door. Behind it was
a narrow stairwell leading to a sealed chamber beneath the house,
one untouched for decades. Inside, the room looked frozen in time.
Dusty books, an old camera, and a vintage film projector

(01:24:21):
lined the walls, but it was the upright piano in
the corner that sent chills down Aliz's spine. He claims
the piano began to play on its own. Elize documented
the experience on TikTok, where his followers watched in fascination
and horror as he used a unique method to communicate
with what he believed was a spirit by asking the

(01:24:43):
presence to play specific keys. He eventually received one eerie response,
the word diary. The word led to a discovery of
a hidden journal. According to Eliz and a psychic he
later consulted, the diary belonged to a woman named Adelina,
who had allegedly been imprisoned in the secret room by

(01:25:04):
her husband after he suspected her of being unfaithful with
her piano teacher. The psychic believed the woman's spirit was
still tied to the room, unresolved and unheard. To bring
peace to the spirit, Elie said, he visited the grave
and left offerings. That's it for Dark Matter News. Catch
up with us on the Midnight Frequency Facebook page. From Memphis, Tennessee.

Speaker 17 (01:25:28):
I'm Joshua Stark.

Speaker 10 (01:26:51):
Welcome back to Midnight for with Your Radio. I'm Karl
Richardson and our guest, I'm Marilyn Hughes. Welcome back, Miss Hughes.

Speaker 4 (01:26:59):
Hi, thank you.

Speaker 10 (01:27:01):
We have a question from Chad. Can someone have an
out of body accidentally? As a teen, I was falling
asleep and was suddenly floating above my bed. It scared
me and I went back into my body.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
Yeah, that's absolutely can happen, and it's it's a very
common way for it to happen spontaneously. So yes, absolutely, that.

Speaker 10 (01:27:26):
Scared me to death. Oh really, wait, what's going on here?
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
Well, and a lot of times that is exactly how
it happens the first time for people. So yeah, all.

Speaker 10 (01:27:41):
Right, I'm not sure if we'll get calls in this
evening the show. I'm fairly new with this, and word
is starting to get around. But if we don't get
any callers, I do apologize for that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Oh, no worries.

Speaker 10 (01:27:54):
But one thing I wanted to ask, out of all
the literature that you've written, is there something you would
recommend to someone who's trying to get into the spirituality
and meta physics that you've written? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
Absolutely. The things I recommend to the first people, the
people who are just starting is The Mysteries of the Redemption,
a treatise on out of body travel and mysticism, and
I always recommend come to Wisdom's Door how to have
an out of body experience. Those are really good for

(01:28:29):
people who are starting and for people who you know.
And we have some films, but let me just start
with these books for people who are interested in, you know,
getting an idea of mystical theology. One of the books
in the new series, the Complete Guides, the Complete out

(01:28:51):
of Body Travel Guide series I'm really excited about. I
got to write a book on mystical theology and ask
a astral projection. Highly recommend that it really gives a
good overview of a lot of the mystical theology. Great,
and that's a great overview of mystical theology. Also in

(01:29:13):
that series, you can start with the Complete Manual of
out of body Travel and astral Projection, which a lot
of people are saying it's really helpful for them starting out.
And then there's a sequel to that, Advanced out of
Body Travel, which gives you some more advanced methods after
you've finished with the first one. And there's a ton

(01:29:33):
of books in that series as well, you know, for
a lot of different things. You know, you can read
about understanding auras, psychic development, you know, opening up your
third eye, all kinds of things that help you with
the preparatory stages too, so that's always helpful as well.

(01:29:55):
But there's so many things in that series. But there's
a bunch of things. We have a series of books
that starts with Come to Wisdom's Door that gives you
the they go in sequence and that's considered the how
to series and it really goes in depth. So you're
going to start with Come to Wisdom's Door, but then

(01:30:17):
The Hammer of Mysticism is really good for that, and
then the Fragrance of the Mystical Rose and those are
some books and I probably give you a little bit
more a little bit more then I don't want to overwhelm.
But we also have all these films and so you know,
you can flip over to our YouTube channel. There's links

(01:30:38):
on the site and watch our films. And we have
the Grand Phases of the Soul, which I mentioned before.
But we also have a film called how to Have
an Out of Body Experience, which is a very good
in depth film. We have nine films there so you
can also watch. You know, we have one on the
Initiations into the Mysteries and one on the Rights of Passage.

(01:31:02):
We have the Tao of Mysticism, and then I mentioned
at the Feet of the Masters we have that's a
two volume set. There's several other things, and we also
have these in depth classes that you can watch there
as well, and a lot of other things. Tons and
tons of interviews and live streams as well, so lots

(01:31:25):
of questions and answers, lots of things you can do.
So just go to out Ofbodytravel dot org and you
can start there. You can download all the books for free,
you can watch all the films for free, and whatever
is there you can you can check it out.

Speaker 10 (01:31:42):
I'll add that we also posted links to your websites
the different aspects of it on our website, So if
anyone wants to look, they can also go to our
website and just click on the links.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
Well that's great, Thank you so much. I appreciate that.

Speaker 10 (01:32:00):
I've only got one last question, but I was hoping
someone would call in or anyone in chat had a question.
Feel free to post it and I can relate it
to Miss hughs. Okay, but my final question is what
legacy do you hope to leave behind in the world
of spirituality and metaphysics.

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
Well, you know, I've built the out of body Travel
Foundation with the hope that will leave behind the legacy
of this path of purification and opening this understanding of
you know, the acceleration of the spiritual path and helping

(01:32:46):
souls to uh you know, stop this uh this, you know,
this karmic circling. One of the things I would shown
when I was going through the initiations of the mysteries
was this karmic circling and how so many souls on

(01:33:10):
Earth were stuck in the karmic circling and it was
really hard to get them out because we all get
so lost and we get so we don't see what
we're doing, and we don't realize that we actually have
to do something different. And as part of it is

(01:33:32):
just because it's so habitual when we do our lifetime
after lifetime, it's very habitual, and something has to kind
of wrestle us up a bit so that we realize
that we are actually just doing the same thing we

(01:33:53):
always do and that we need to do something different
so that we have a different outcome this time around.
And so, you know, the real legacy is to help
souls to start that process so that they can actually
make more progress, you know, towards the spiritual goals that

(01:34:16):
they that they actually come here to achieve and hopefully,
you know, accelerate that for a lot of souls. And
that's really what we're hoping to do, is bring souls
closer to the purpose of their existence here and helping
them to find that and reach it.

Speaker 10 (01:34:40):
Well, this, this radio broadcast was actually something different. I'm
definitely no radio personality, but I wanted to give a
format that someone could come on and give their points
of view on things and inform people and then everyone
could make their decision from this.

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
Yeah, and that's great, I mean, this is all it's
all these little things that that you know, and it's
you know, the Internet has given us a lot of
vehicles where we can we can you know, do a
lot of different things like that, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah,

(01:35:23):
And also you know, in the I mean, I think
it's it's really awesome in the in the you know,
in the legacy of art Bell. I think it's neat
that so many are are kind of branching out in
his legacy and wanting to you know, almost like seeds

(01:35:46):
of you know, and I think that that's a wonderful,
a wonderful thing that he would be very happy about.

Speaker 10 (01:35:56):
I hope he's slipping down and blessing me possibly.

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
I think he would be really happy to see so many,
you know, I think he would be very happy to
see that there are so many that are trying to
to carry on in different ways what he was trying
to do. Because all it does is is it's spreading
the seeds, you know, new ways, and it's all it's

(01:36:27):
all an honor.

Speaker 10 (01:36:28):
To him, I hope.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
So I feel it is. I feel it is, and
I feel like he would feel that way.

Speaker 9 (01:36:34):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
That's my thoughts. You know, Yeah, whatever they're worth, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:36:40):
Well, I haven't had any other questions yet, and then
no one's called in the way I have it set up,
it shows on my video screen. I don't actually show
camera video, but it shows information on how to log
in through a phone line into zoom and ask questions.
And then, like I said before, people can ask questions
in chat. But so far, I've had a bashful audience.

(01:37:04):
This is like my sixth official show, and I've had
one or two in the past. But I'm hoping to
get the word out farther. You know how it is
when you first start something, it's it's to get the work.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's hard. It's hard, and it's hard
to call in and actually ask a question sometimes.

Speaker 10 (01:37:26):
Yeah tried. I get that before each show, So everybody
out there, don't feel bad. It's it's typical.

Speaker 4 (01:37:36):
Oh yeah, me too, Me too.

Speaker 10 (01:37:40):
Miss Hughes. It's been an honor to have you on.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
And an honor to be on. And thank you for
the invitation.

Speaker 10 (01:37:48):
And if you come out with some new books in
the future, we would be happy to have you on
and discuss them.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, you know, while we're
talking about it, let me just tell you also about
We also released to Gather the Winds of Heaven, so
we released that as well, and that just came out
on audio. And also the Astral Projection Made Easy came

(01:38:15):
out on audio, so for those who would like to
have that as an audiobook, that one's finally out in audio.
And also all of the complete Out of Body Travel
and Astral Projection books are out audio now and so

(01:38:39):
that's now available in audio. So I'm very excited about
that because that's been work in progress and so, but
I did want to make people aware of to Gather
the Winds of Heaven because that is the eleventh book
in the Mysteries of the Redemption series, so that was
a big deal and we have a new narrator for

(01:39:00):
that and I think people are really going to like her.
So so take a check out. Check that one out.
And also another thing for your audience to know, Please
feel free to email me at Marilyn Hughes at out
of Body Travel dot org and if you would like

(01:39:20):
to have any free audible codes, I would be happy
to give your audience a free audible audiobook. So just
me an email and I will send you an audible code.

Speaker 10 (01:39:34):
That's fantastic and I appreciate it, and I'm sure my
listeners do also. Well. Sure the audio formats are fantastic
because if you like me and diabetic, your eyesight isn't
as great as it used to be. And audio books
are fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
That's true. Yeah, and a lot of people just like
that format better and I understand it. So yeah, that's available.

Speaker 10 (01:39:57):
Man. Well, I will be back in touch with you
probably tomorrow. I need to edit the recording of the
show and cut out the copyright stuff so that there'd
be no problems if you want to post it on
your side.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
Also, okay, great, thank you so much.

Speaker 10 (01:40:14):
All right, miss Hughs And I guess i'll say good evening,
and once again I appreciate you being on the show,
and I hope you have a great weekend you too.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
Thank you so much, Carl. It was nice to meet
you via audio.

Speaker 10 (01:40:28):
All right, have a good evening you too.

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
Bye bye bye bye.

Speaker 10 (01:41:27):
Live live.

Speaker 11 (01:41:42):
Live anydy

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
En today