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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome deep divers. You know, there's something just universally fascinated
about vehicles and movies. Isn't there ones that go way
beyond just transportation?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh? Absolutely, They really can become characters themselves, symbols even exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
And maybe no vehicle does that quite like the batmobile.
I mean, it's not just a car. It's become this
rolling symbol of justice, of ingenuity. It's woven into pop culture, such.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
An iconic part of it, a dream machine for so
many people across generations hotly.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
But today we're not looking at just any batmobile. No,
we are going deep, really buckling in to explore that
truly unique, really raw and just ferocious version we saw
in Matt Reeves The Batman, the twenty twenty two film
with Robert Pattinson.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ah. Yes, that one made quite an impact straight away,
it really did.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I think everyone remembers seeing it for the first time.
It just grabbed your attention because it was such a
radical departure, almost like visceral compared to what came before.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
A very different beast for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So our mission today really is to peel back the
layers on this mechanical creature to get the real story
behind what everyone calls a raw, handmade muscle car. We're
gonna look at its design, where those ideas came from,
how they actually built, the gritty reality of it, will
explore what it means culturally, and this is crucial how
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it actually works in the story shaping the film's narrative.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's definitely more than just a cool car.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
In the background. Exactly By the end of this deep dive,
you'll see how this Batmobile is almost like a key,
a shortcut to understanding that whole, grounded, gritty vision Matt
Reeves had for Batman.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
A very deliberate choice reflecting the entire film's tone.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So what makes it stand out so much? I mean,
it's clearly not the sleek, almost alien thing from Tim
Burton's movies.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, definitely not that high tech, gadget focused look.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And it's not the Tumbler either, right, that big militaristic
tank from the Nolan film World's Apart from the Tumbler,
this one just feels different, almost primal, like something genuinely built,
you know, by hand. He reflects a younger Batman, less polished,
much grittier.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It feels personal, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Less like something from Wayne enterprises R and D and
more like something hammered together in a dark garage somewhere.
And to really get that, we need to understand the
world it drives in.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That context is absolutely essential. You see the car and
it immediately tells you so much about the Gotham Matt
Reeves created. It's a statement piece before anyone even speaks, right.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's design just screams the firm's aesthetic, grounded, almost brutalist.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A physical embodiment of that vision.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, okay, let's really unpack that foundation. Then to get
the genius of this batmobile, we absolutely have to start
with the context, the world it exists in. Reeves The
Batman puts us squarely in year two of Bruce Wayne's career.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
M Hm, that's key.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
This isn't the season almost infallible Batman we sometimes see,
not at all. He's younger, he's raw, he's definitely less polished,
still figuring things out.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Still making mistakes driven by emotion.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
And that year two thing, it's not just a minor detail,
it's foundational. It affects every design choice, especially.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The Batmobile absolutely, and that grounded approach it really permeates
everything in the film, not just Batman's character, it's the
whole world.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You said, He's portrayed as more flawed and human. Yeah,
how does that contrast with other versions, Well, it's a.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Pretty stark contrast to say, the almost mythical figure in
some comics or even some earlier films, that hypercompetent, almost
untouchable hero. Here it's different. How So we're shifting away
from maybe a grand save the world superhero plot and
diving deep into a gritty, noir driven detective story. The
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stakes feel really personal, tangible, almost desperate sometimes.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So everything reflects that, his tools, his methods.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Everything, it all points to this early formative, maybe even
slightly desperate stage of his journey. It implies struggle, you know,
resourcefulness born out of necessity, not just bottomless wealth.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So if you're listening, think about that. An early stage
Batman changes how we see his gear, right, his tools,
especially this batmobile, they feel more relatable, more tangible somehow.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Definitely, it's not about some unlimited corporate R and D budget.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
No, it feels like it's about pure personal grit, like
real mechanical skill and just this obsessive determination. You could
almost picture Bruce Wayne nights On end in some huge,
maybe slightly decaying.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Garage, welding it himself, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Welding, fabricating parts, just driven by the mission. It feels human,
almost desperate, not like something off a production line.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's an extension of him, not something he just ordered.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And speaking of creation, Matt Reeves had this incredibly specific vision.
He didn't just want a fast car. He wanted a creature.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
That's the quote, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah? He said, And this is so telling. The purpose
of the car for me was to be like a
creature in a horror film. It's meant to intimidate. That's wow.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That's a whole different way of thinking about a batmobile.
It really set the tone. And the challenge, I suppose
is how do you translate that a creature and a
horror film into you know, steel on an engine?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Right? How does that directive shape the design?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It shaped everything. It led directly to this vehicle that's
both retro and menacing. It's a very sharp, very deliberate
turn away from the futuristic or militaristic batmobiles we'd seen.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
No sleek lines are hidden.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Tech exactly, or the overt tank design. Reeves wanted something
that felt plausible, like it could actually exist and genuinely
terrify criminals on those rain soaked, crime ridden streets of Gotham.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It wasn't about showing off future tech, No, it was.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
About creating primal fear, making the car itself a roaring
extension of Batman's intimidation. It had to look like a beast.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And that's where it gets really fascinating for me, the
idea of a vehicle as a creature from a horror film.
That's not just speed or armor, is it.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's psychology, pure psychological impact.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Think about that first shot in the movie, not just
a car approaching those headlights like eyes in the dark,
and the engine sound not just a roar, but.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Like a growl, an animalistic sound, yeah, echoing through the city.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It taps into that deep fear of being hunted, not
just chased, the fear of something unstoppable coming out of
the shadows, a beast with a purpose. That's the horror element.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It moves like a predator.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, it's not just transport, it's alive, an extension of
Batman meant to terrify before it even gets close, a
living presence. Okay, So with that grounded, almost primal vision
locked in. Let's look at the actual blueprint. How did
they build this brutality? We hear modified muscle car a lot?
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What does that really mean for us look and feel?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Well, it's not just any muscle car. The designers really
they honed in on specific iconic models from the real world.
You can definitely see its roots, like what it looks
a lot like a second generation Dodge Charger, particularly the
sixty eight to seventy models. You know that aggressive stands,
the powerful lines, that realmic and muscle feel.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Oh yeah, those cars just scream power.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
But it's not just a Charger clone. You can see
bits and pieces, like elements from other classics, maybe some
Plymouth Barracuda in there, Chevrolet Camaro, even Ford Mustang influences.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
So a deliberate choice pulling from that muscle car history.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Very deliberate, and it fits perfectly with the film's neo noirtone,
that dark, cynical detective story vibe, rooted in shadows and
urban decay.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
And it fits Bruce's approach too right, hands on exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It underscores his hands on approach. Those classic muscle cars
they represented raw, untamed power, often customized by their owners.
It's a perfect fit for a younger, maybe more resource
limited Batman.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
They don't just go fast, They make a statement.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
A statement of raw, unapologetic machinery.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So you take that untamed spirit, that raw power of
those classics, and then you just infuse it completely with
Batman's dark purpose.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
That's the blend. Recognizable design meets this sinister, custom, uncompromising edge.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
It makes it resin I think, a nod to the past,
but reimagined for a much darker world.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, it feels both familiar and totally new.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So we had the muscle car idea. But how did
it go from say a concept art rendering. Ash Thorpe
did some early work right to the actual thing we
saw on screen. What was that process like?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It was a really significant iterative process, lots of refinement,
all under Matt Reeves's close supervision. The main goal, the
driving force behind every choice, was to make a car
that looked built in a garage rather than a high
tech lab.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You can really see that how well.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Look at the details the Matte black finish, for example.
It's not just stealthy. It screams lack of flashiness, functional grimness.
It absorbs light, makes it look like it's emerging from
the shadows.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
A menacing silhouette exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And then there's the exposed V ten engine. That's bold
for a batmobile, right, Usually the tech is hidden, very bold.
This just puts the raw power right out there. It's
not sleek, it's almost animalistic, like the machine's angry heart.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Is on dis And that bumper, that massive battering ram.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Oh yeah, the brutal battering ram bumper. That's not just
for protection. That's a statement of intent. It looks like
it's meant to plow through things, not just navigate around them,
asserting dominance.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Like a predator clearing its path.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And the back end is really distinctive too, that jet
engine like exhaust and the subtle, almost carved bat shaped
silhouette back there.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
That connects to the comics, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It does. It's a direct, really elegant nod to the
Neil Adams batmobiles from the nineteen seventies. They were known
for being aggressive but minimal.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So it's this mix of raw form, function and a
bit of comic history, a masterful blend.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
It proves even a grounded design can carry that iconic weight.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Then that's why it works. So well, that blend of
raw power with these subtle nods to the comics, it
feels fresh but also deeply satisfying, like it belongs in
the Batman legacy.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
It establishes its own identity while still feeling like Batman.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
A tricky balance to pull off, very tricky. Okay, So
beyond comics in my cars, what about movies? Did cinematic
history shape this bout and oil to any specific film
cars that influenced its feel?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Oh? Definitely. Reeves has talked about specific films that were crucial.
One key one which makes total sense given the raw
power vibe is the sixty eight Dodge Charger RT from.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Bullet Ah, the Steve McQueen classic.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, that chase exactly. That car just evokes raw power
and danger, relentless, unstoppable. You can feel that energy in
this Batmobile.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I can see that connection.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
What else, Well, this one's maybe more surprising, even a
bit chilling, The Plymouth Fury from Stephen King's Christine.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Christine the Killer Car. Yeah, Reeves mentioned wanting a car
that exudes menace and personality, almost as if it were alive,
like Christine, where the car itself felt vengeful, malevolent.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Wow, that's a dark concept for a batmobile, not just
a tool, but something with its own will.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's about its presence, it's aura, not just its mechanics.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So connecting those dots these movie influence has helped make
the batmobile feel less like just a prop and more
like a character in its own right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Absolutely a mechanical extension of Bruce Wayne's rage and determination.
It has this palpable presence of personality. It feels like
it's breathing alongside Batman in the scene.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Not just driving, but hunting, stalking, carrying his fury and
its own menace gocisely. Now here's something truly amazing, especially
today with CGI everywhere. Pattinson's batmobile wasn't CGI, was it.
It was real? That's right, a real, functional vehicle built
for the film, which is an incredible commitment to practical
effects in this day and age, and.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It really paid off too.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Oh immensely. It elevates the film's authenticity so much. The
team didn't just build one. They built four distinct batmobiles
four wow. Yeah, each one tailored for specific filming needs,
you know, different setups for different stunts or shots.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And they actually did the stunts with them.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
According to Dominic Tuey, the special effects supervisor, and he
should know everything you see the car do is done
in real life time. Absolutely no reliance on computer generated
graphics for the cars stunts. It's incredible and that dedication
it added this incredible visceral quality to the action, especially
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that Penguin Chase sequence. You feel the weight, the momentum,
the impact because it was real.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
It grounds the fantasy, makes it feel tangible, exact, and
that commitment to practical effects. It's not just cool behind
the scenes info. It directly pulls you, the listener deeper
into Gotham. You feel the impact here, the roar, experience
the power like you're there.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It removes that layer of digital distance, replaces it with
real force.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Okay, so let's get under the hood. These were real
cars doing real things. What was powering them? How did
they get that speed in Menace?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It was a really clever mix of old school muscle
and modern filmmaking tech. They were essentially built on a
custom frame, right, so the team could really tailor the performance. Yeah,
the engines, that's the fascinating part. Two different power plants.
Three of the four cars had a massive six hundred
and twenty seven horsepower Chevy V eight engine.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Wow, proper V eight thunder exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
That delivered the raw, brutal force and that incredible sound
you expect. That was the workhorse for most of the action.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But there was a fourth one different.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, one of them actually had an electric Tesla motor.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
A Tesla motor, yeah in the Batmobile. Why not?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
For speed? Really it served very specific filming purposes, like
creating that blue flame effect during the reveal. Electric motors
give you precise control for effects like that. Oh and
maybe more importantly, it allowed for silent operation on set,
which is huge for recording clean dialogue or doing those
close ups where Pattinson looks like he's driving.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But really a stunt driver is hidden somewhere.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Exactly, hidden in a pod on the roof, controlling the
car silently.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That's clever. And the V eight ones were they tuned up?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Oh yeah, they had turbochargers and a manual transmission pushing
out up to six hundred and fifty seven hundred horsepower
to all four wheels. So incredibly fast and also agile,
built to handle those chaotic sequences.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Okay, that is a serious technical deep dive. Mixing the
classic V eight roar with a silent electric motor for
specific shots. It's a brilliant practical innovation.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
It shows the level of thought that went into every
single detail, balancing spectacle with realism.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Thinking outside the box. Now, not just fast, it needs
to be tough. This is Gotham. It's a weapon, a shield.
What mods turned this muscle car into Batman's armored beast?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Functionality and durability, those were clearly the top priorities. You
can see it everywhere. It had that heavily reinforced steel
bumber and chassis, clearly built to ply through stuff, not
just survive impacts, making its own path definitely, and for
safety during stunts. A strong internal rollcage was built into
the frame.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Essential What about protection from say, gunfire?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It had ballistic glass windows, and the tires were specially
reinforced to handle impacts and rough terrain. Gotham's streets aren't
exactly smooth highways, true.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And the inside luxurious far.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
From it, deliberately stripped down, just a single corbo racing
seat and an omp steering wheel, purely utilitarian, No creature
comforts here.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It's all business, built for purpose. Any idea what that
kind of armoring costs.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's funny you ask some automotive experts. Select Car Leasing
actually estimated it just replicating those protective features around one
hundred and sixty two hundred and sixty one dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
WHOA just for the armor and reinforcement.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Just for that. It really shows it's meant to be
a mobile fortress, not just a car.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
That real world cost. It really drives home the dedication
to making it believable. It's not just a cool prop.
It's engineered battle equipment. You believe it could take a beating.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Makes the danger feel very real.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And adding to that realism, Robert Pattinson himself got involved
with the driving, right, He wasn't just sitting in a
mock up.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That's another great detail. Yeah, Pattinson actually performed much of
the stunt, driving himself, pushing the car up to one
hundred mile of rise and some takes. Really that's impressive,
and James Chinlund, the production designer, said Pattinson's involvement really
added to that raw, unpolished feel, made it seem like
Bruce Wayne himself was behind the wheel testing his own creation.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It gives it more authenticity. You feel the character connected
to the machine.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
A much stronger connection than if it was all stunt
doubles and cgi that personal touch.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Knowing he was actually driving it like that, it makes
you believe in Bruce Wayne's grit even more. It ties
the character and the car together viscerally.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Okay, let's shift gears a bit. We've talked physical presence construction,
But what about its role in the story. It's clearly
more than just a vehicle, right, It's a narrative device.
How does it reflect Bruce Wayne's evolution?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That's a great question. How does a car become part
of the character's arc. I think this batmobile profoundly reflects
Bruce Wayne's evolution. Remember, he's still early in his career here, raw, angry,
still figuring it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Out, and the car reflects that.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, it's handbuilt, imperfect nature mirrors Bruce's own inexperience, the
fact that he still work in progress. But even with
those rough edges, its raw power and intimidating presence show
his relentless drive, his will.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So it embodies his struggle.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Exactly, that struggle to balance his rage with his desire
to inspire hope. It starts as this instrument of vengeance,
this primal force, but maybe it also holds the seeds
of becoming something more, a symbol just like him.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
It's a mirror to the man driving it, a very
effective one. So it's not just sitting there. It's part
of his story, reflecting his internal journey, his struggles, his evolution.
It carries that deeper.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Meaning, an unspoken narrative.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, and speaking of narrative impact, you can't talk about
this Batmobile without talking about its most memorable moment, that
chase with the penguin. Colin Ferrell chewing the scenery. That
scene as legendary.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Already, Oh, absolutely legendary. That whole sequence is just a
masterclass in practical filmmaking. The cure, white knuckle stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Describe it for us again. Penguin in his Maserati.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Right, Penguin desperately trying to escape in his fancy Maserati quadriporte,
and Batman just relentlessly hunting him down in the Batmobile
through that insane, chaotic highway crash.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The destruction looks so real because it was real.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's the key. Real cars, real stunts, and a tangible
sense of danger. Every impact, every screech, every near miss.
You feel it because it's authentic.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And the Batmobile's actions in.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
That chase terrifying, its ability to just leap through flames
and then brutally ram the Penguin's car into submission. That
perfectly matches Reeves's vision of a horror inspired vehicle.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Not just fast, it's relentless, an unstoppable force.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
An apex predator on wheels. The sheer audacity of the
practical stunts was breath taking.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And that's the key, isn't it. Using practical effects made
that sequence unforgettable. It showcased the car's intimidation factor in
a way CGI often struggles with you. Feel the grit,
the impact.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
A visceral punch that stays with you, a real cinematic a.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Now here's something I find really fascinating. A piece of
backstory about the car itself that adds another layer of meaning,
connecting it even more personally to Bruce.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Nah. Yes, this is a detail. It's easy to miss,
but adds so much soul to the car.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The film subtly reveals that Bruce actually used this very
car for street racing in his teenage years before he
modified it for Batman duties.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Wait, really, so it's not a new car he built
from scratch.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
No, it's repurposed, a piece of his own past, reforged.
This adds incredible depth to the Batmobile. It's not just
a tool. It's a tangible personal link to Bruce's past
and his journey to becoming Batman.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
That changes things. It means he's not just buying tech,
he's adapting what he has exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It shows his resourcefulness and the car's rugged DIY aesthetic
isn't just style. It reinforces the idea that this Batman
is a work in progress, literally building himself and his
tools from his own history.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That feels almost autobiographical for the car in a way.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, an intimate detail.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Okay, that is a genuine aha moment for me. That
personal connection makes it so much more integral to Bruce's character.
It's proof of his resourcefulness, his history, not just his wealth.
He chose this path and rebuilt his past to serve
his mission, a.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Powerful statement about who he is at his core.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Let's shift gears again. Let's talk cultural impact. How did
this Batmobile land with fans and critics? It feels like
it became a favorite almost overnight.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It really did it? Became an instant cultural phenomenon. The
design sparked this incredible wave of creativity, detailed fan replicas,
popular Lego models you see them.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Everywhere, an endless online discussion.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Countless YouTube analysis. Yeah, by setting every angle, every engine component,
fans overwhelmingly loved the grounded, aggressive look. Many called it
their favorite batmobile to date.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's high praise given the history.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Very high praise, and its influence went beyond just fandom.
It bled into the comics. You see the concept art
for DC's Batman series showing batmobiles clearly inspired by Pattinson's version.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Wow, So it's influencing the source material now.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
That shows its immediate and pretty profound impact. It wasn't
just a movie design. It shifted the perception of what
the batmobile could be.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That level of engagement, the fan creations, influencing the comics.
It really speaks volumes about how well it hit the mark.
An instant classic.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It proved that maybe raw and gritty was something audiences
were hungry for.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So to really appreciate its place, let's put it in context.
How does it stack up against the other iconic batmobiles, Burton's, Nolan's,
How is it distinct.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
When you put them side by side, the contrast is
really clear. It's so different from say, the sleek, gothic
futuristic car from Burton's eighty nine film that had a dark.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Elegance right almost art deco.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And it's completely different from Nolan's tank like Tumbler that
was pure military grade utility, a behemoth.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
A prototype weapon almost.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Whereas Pattinson's Batmobile it really feel like it belongs to
a street level vigilante, grittier, more grounded than the.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Others any other comparisons people make.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Critics often bring up the modified cars of Mad Max
or Death Race, which reinforces that apocalyptic dystopian vibe.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
That's insightful. It highlights the raw, maybe improvised feel.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, and ultimately it just perfectly captures rees Batman, flawed,
driven and unafraid to get his hands dirty. It's less
about tech marvel, more about visceral intent.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Looking at it that way really highlights its unique place.
It wasn't meant to be the sleekest or most advanced.
It was meant to be the most grounded, visceral and
intimidating purpose built for this specific Batman.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
A perfect match between vehicle and character.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So looking ahead, The Batman Part two is scheduled for
twenty twenty seven. The anticipation's building. What happens to the
Batmobile next? Does it evolve?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
That's the big question, isn't it? How does it change
as Bruce changes? Given his evolution in the first film,
it seems likely the car will evolve too, though upgrades.
We can definitely speculate about upgrades reflecting his increasing experience
and resources, maybe incorporating more advanced tech but hopefully plausible tech,
while still keeping those muscle car routes.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
A tricky balance, keep it grounded but show progression exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
There are some hints maybe in recent comics Matt Fraction's
Batman Run and there was a new comic Batmobile shown
at San Diego Comic Con twenty twenty five, apparently, Oh
what did that look like? Described as having a sleek,
armored look with neon blue highlights, so maybe hinting at
a direction more refined but still aggressive.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Interesting, but Reeves wants to keep it grounded.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
He's consistently emphasized that keeping the franchise grounded, so any
changes will likely be carefully done to maintain that DIY aesthetic,
that raw feel that made the first one so special.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It won't suddenly become a spaceship.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Probably not. It'll likely become a more evolved beast, not
a different species altogether.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That opens up some really interesting possibilities, doesn't it. How
the car continues to mirror Batman's own journey. Does it
get more polished as he does, or does it keep
that rebellious edge.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
It's a question about Bruce's identity as much as the
car's design.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So wrapping up this deep dive, what an incredible machine.
Pattinson's Batmobile really feels like a huge achievement, a triumph
of design and storytelling aboutely, It's just perfectly captured that raw,
visceral energy of Matt Reeves's whole vision, moving that sometimes
going back to gritty basics is the most compelling move.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
It really has redefined the Batmobile, I think, and it
proves a powerful point, doesn't it that even in a
world of high tech gadgets and unlimited money, sometimes the
most powerful tools are the ones you build yourself. This car,
it's more than just transport. It's a symbol of Bruce's journey,
his resilience, A roaring reflection of his identity still being forged.
(24:52):
It's a character, a weapon, a mirror, a legend all
rolled into one.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
So here's the final thought to leave you with deep divers.
As Bruce Wayne keeps evolving, gets more experienced, maybe has
more resources, how will the baton be all adapt Can
it stay true to those hand built, grounded roots while
still changing? What does the next stage of this mechanical
beast look like? And maybe more importantly, what will that
tell us about the Dark Knight himself? Someone to definitely
chew on.