2025 NBA 2nd Round Review/ Brock Prudy's New Contract/ What should the Browns do at QB?

On this episode of Mike & Ant, the boys review the 2nd round of the NBA Playoffs and they discuss the Dallas Mavericks winning the NBA draft lottery. Also, the guys dive into the NFL by talking about Brock Prudy's new contract and what should the Cleveland Browns do at QB this year?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Right right, right, right, right, right right.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome everybody to the Mic and Aunt Show. I'm my mess,
this is my co host Aunt. Say what's up, my brother?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
What's good? How about the Knicks?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Shout out to the Knicks, man, I just start with that.
We could we could.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Dive right in dive right in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Man. Yeah, it's been it's been twenty five long years. Man.
The last time, the last time we made to the
conference finals, I was twelve. That's how long this being.
So yeah, it's it's a it's a big deal. As
happy as happy as I am, though, like like we
gotta to quote Bill Belichick onto Indiana. So no, we

(00:54):
ain't finished yet. But this is this, This was a
huge moment last night. I just wish I was in
the garden to celebrated.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Man, I'm sure they was going crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
And then.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
This this is I mean, obviously, you know, we kind
of expected the Celtics. I know you're obviously happy that
it is not the Celtics, but I expected the Paces
to be here. But I think that the next series,
you know, like you said, onto the Pace, this is
going to be a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
I think this goes seven games. What about you?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, I agree. And what I love about it too,
because I think one of the problems the NBA has
right now is that there's a lack of rivalries, and
I think that's part of the reason why their ratings
have been going down the last several years. But New
York Indiana, Man, that's that's a huge rivalry. Obviously, they
played each other in playoffs last year, but this is

(01:48):
this is a robbery that goes all the way back
to the nineties with you, Reggie Miller and Patrick Ewing,
John Starks, the Davis Brothers, Rick Smith's and all them.
And it's fitting too because, uh, Reggie Miller's be calling
that entire series. So I'm interesting type of reaction he
gets at the Garden from the Knicks fans because to

(02:11):
this day, man, thirty years later, Man, we still can't
stay Regi Miller.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, oh man, I thought, yeah, now, many people can
stay Regie Miller. But yeah, I'm interested to see how
that series goes. Where you where you going with this series?
You're still going against the knickerboxet or you're going You're.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Going home now?

Speaker 1 (02:35):
No, I'm going I'm going Nixon Nixon seven, nix and seven. Uh.
It went seven last year, but I'm going, uh, I'm
going Nickson seven.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I think I'm gonna do you one better. I think
i'm gonna go Nixon six. They got the eye the
Tiger right now, I think I don't. I think I
think the Pacers might run into something then I'll expecting
right now.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go next in six.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
What did you think about what the Timberwolves did to
the Warriors?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Not surprised. Actually, I actually have Minnesota winning it. I
know Warriors fans are crying saying that the always one
of the t Wolves won it's because Steph Curry got hurt.
But I think Minnesota's gonna win that series even with
Steph there. I just think that, yeah, that that I mean.
I know Golden State won that first game, but Steph

(03:35):
only played in the first quarter. Minnesota, I think they
were just cold because they had like a week off
because they beat the Lakers early, and then the Warriors
played a full seven against Houston. I just think Minnesota
is the better team. They're clicking at the right time
and kind of like Indiana like they were in the
conference finals last year as well, So they've made it back.

(03:58):
And it's interesting to be because New York and Minnesota
made a trade for Cat Williams and Julius Randall because
you know, the Knicks start that we have to get
rid of Julius Randall and get Cat Williams to you know,
I mean Cat Cat Williams called Anthony Towns. I don't know.
I think about Cat Williams in my head, but yeah,

(04:24):
we gotta get called Anthony Towns to take us over
the top. While the t Wars I think, okay, we
gotta get rid of Cat and bring in Julius Randall
to take us over the top. So so far, both
teams are in the same spot. It's been a win win.
It'll be interesting if it's a Knicks versus t Wolves
in the in the finals. We got to see what
happens in the other series between the Okay, seeing Denver,

(04:47):
they played Game seven, I think, go ahead, they play
game seven. Uh tomorrow, I.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Got, I got. I'll be honest with you. I had
the Temples winning the Warriors series.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Regd this what was going on with Steph.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I hope Stephen Tatum obviously recover HC injuries and especially
in playoff basketball.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Well especially Tatum Man, the terror, the tear his achilles
in the playoffs. He's he's pretty much gonna miss next.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Season unless he does the NF I mean, I've seen
some people in the NFL recover, like Rogers almost came
back the same year he's forty, so yeah, they I mean,
I guess now it just comes down to how hard
he wants to rehabit. Personally, I wouldn't rush it, because
that's why I think more problems happen in the future.

(05:42):
I would probably take off, as you know, as much
time as I need to, just slow.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I from him. If I'm him, I'll sit off the
entire twenty twenty six season. Let that he'll look just seven.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I put it like this, he could probably go slow
and still come back for the playoffs. I'm obviously assuming
that Celtics can still lock in one of those seeds
even without him, So I would say probably no earlier
than the playoffs, because that gives you a year, you know,
So it's something. But if he sat out the whole year,

(06:17):
it wouldn't be surprising. I feel like NFL players maybe
push it a little bit more than NBA players those
type scenarios too.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah. Well, I mean NBA players the knock on name
is there a lot more soft because like they'll sit
out a whole year for like an ACL or NFL players,
they or even hockey players too, they'll come right backs
as soon as possible.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Like some of these players like Adrian Peterson, I remember
did smutant activity when he ripped his knee up.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
He came back.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
He came back in six months when the nap.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
It went for two thousand.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
So yeah, so yeah, I mean, it just depends the
type of person you.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I'll tell you one thing though, And you remember I
said we relived revisit this with the Nuggets and Thunder.
Remember remember I told you I lean towards the Thunder.
And then I told you but if after watching a
couple of games, I'll let you know a decision. It's

(07:23):
obviously Game seven. I'm gonna stick with the Thunder. It
won't surprise me if this goes either way. But I
say that to say this a gruing seven game series.
The Wolves are gonna make easy work off either one
of those teams doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I don't think Anthony Ella's kids who comes out of
Game seven. I think that either one of those teams
that win runs out of gas and loses in six,
doesn't matter. If they get the game seven, it's probably
even worse for them because they might take the thirty
point blow in game seven because they're completely tapped out.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
You see saying like the.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Wolves pretty much swept the Warrior is, they're relaxing, they're young.
You know they're y'all are beating yourself up right now
for another game. Sometimes that's just the way the NBA works.
I think du to du to matchups and the way
that it landed. I think the tim Wolves are gonna

(08:26):
are gonna just I think they'll run through either one
of those teams. I'm expecting the tim Wolves the next finals,
which you said earlier. I literally think about that earlier.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, that was that'll mean that'll be one hell of
a finals, especially with the two teams making the trade
may wins like a win win for both teams. Uh,
but real quickly, I want to ask you about the
Warriors though, because where do you think they go from here?
Because they're three players are all over thirty five.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I don't know, man.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I think it's one of those things where I'm not
sure the value you get for these players. I'm not
sure if they'd even be willing to move any of
these players.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, they just got Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
But it's like Jimmy at this point is like turning
into a journeyman. So I don't know what you're really
getting for him. And he's a good player, don't get
me wrong, real good player. They I mean sucks to
say it for them.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Not a fan of them, so not for me, but
for them.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I think they're no man's land where you're just gonna
ride this out to the sunset.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
There'll be a championship team the next three or five years.
I think that they're just gonna stick with these players
and keep getting close, keep bringing in agent veterans to
go with these players, keep getting close. But I think
it is what it is. I think Curry retires a warrior, So.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, I think he retires a warrior. And I agree
with you. I think there are no men's land, But
I think there are no men's land in the sense
that they're gonna be good enough to make the playoffs,
but they're not gonna be good enough to win a championship.
At the same time, they're not gonna be bad enough
to rebuild and get younger, you know. So yeah, because

(10:24):
like Steph is thirty seven, Draymond's thirty six, Jimmy Butler's
thirty six, so it's like, you know, and they pretty
much got rid of Clay who's also thirty six for
another thirty six year old and Jimmy Butler. So yeah,
and so it's like, I don't know where they go, Like,

(10:45):
you know, they're they're not gonna win a championship. They're
just gonna get their just stuff. There's gonna be a
playoff team who will probably get knocked out in the
first or second round like they did this year.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
You remember like Memphis and they are obviously didn't have
starts for this level, but like Memphis when Zach Randolph
was like kind of like probably like their top player
at the time, that's all your.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, you're going back fourteen.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, that's what you just know, Man's land and you
just do it for three to five years, and then
eventually it's like you know, retirements and minimum salaries, players
leave or whatever they're older, and then you really get
your reset, and that's what I think the Warrior is
a heading to us.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, but even for Memphis, so like, think about how
how many years bad, how bad they were for so
many years until they looked up and drafted the Jahn
Moran mhmm.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
And that's that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
You gotta you gotta like at this point, it's gonna
run its course. Players are going to retire, players are
gonna leave for you know, last Hope championships, and that's
what You're probably gonna be bad for a season or
two until you go. Like that's kind of like just
where they're at. That's not a franchise that I see

(12:07):
if everybody left them right now, I can't see any
star wanting to go there to rebuild it them. They
just it's just not one of those franchises, you know.
So that's what I mean. They and No Man's Lands,
and I expect them to be loyal to Steph Curry.

(12:27):
If I could see a trade coming, it'd probably be Draymond,
maybe even they move off Draymond and Butler. I just
don't see what you would get that you think would
make it any different than having them two guys that
would be like my I guess My question for them,
if you gave up on those two guys, what are

(12:49):
you bringing in that's going to maximize scoring and maximize
what I guess I'm not really huge on Draymond, but
what he brings to the table, Like if is not
gonna be better, you don't replace with you that can't
replace them, that's not gonna make you better.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
So well, see for me though, it's not so much
like trying to get better, it's like for me, it's
like you have to start thinking about the future. Like
your best player, Steph is thirty seven, so next year
he's gonna be thirty eight. No, Draymond is thirty six,
next year is gonna be thirty seven. And same thing
with Jimmy Butler. Next year he's gonna be thirty seven.

(13:28):
So these guys are getting older and older, But what's
your future looking like? I kind of like to use
football as an example, but it's kind of like the
problem with the Steelers have faced since being Roethlisberger retired.
It's like they held on to being Roethlisberger for so long,
but they didn't prepare for the future. And so like

(13:51):
now the Steelers like, yeah, they're good enough to make
the playoffs every year, but they're not bad enough to
get one of these like high top end quarter backs
in the draft to get younger, and so every year
they just keep recycling all these veterans hoping that, you know,
something will work, and it just hasn't worked yet, and
it's like, Okay, what's your future looking like? And in
the meantime, as they're you know, bringing in all these

(14:14):
different quarterbacks, they've wasted you know, T J. Watts, you
know prime years, you know Cam Hayward's prime years, like
you know, because at some point, you know, they have
the Steelers every year have like a top five defense,
but at some point that top five defense is gonna
get older and older and your offense hasn't even caught

(14:35):
up yet. They are because they can't find a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, they're the perfect example of no man's laying. It's like,
I ain't at a losing record in years, but you
ain't done ship neither.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, and I think they haven't. They haven't even won
a playoff game since twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, And that's that's where those situations come. You don't
want to be in no man's lan. You can be
I'd rather be really good, go through a couple of
down years and be really good again than I always
be stuck in the middle.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
It's like that doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
What's what's the point of making the playoffs every year
that you're gonna lose in the first round.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, unless your goal is to make money, and you're
probably making that, but your team ain't doing too good.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I mean, it kind of just is what it is.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
What if what if you thought about the Thunder and
Nuggets because I didn't, I didn't hear your opinion on
what's going on in this series.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh, the series is gone exactly the way I thought
it would. I think we talked about it. We thought
it was gonna go seven games. This serious business just
comes down to I think game sims will come down
to either youth or experience. The Oklahoma City Thunder, you know,
they don't have the experience that they're one of the

(15:55):
youngest teams in the NBA, while the Nuggets they have
all the experience. They just won a championship two years ago.
And even though they fired their coach, oh like a
week before the playoffs even started, which is unheard of. Uh,
they're still I guess you said that they're doing it.
They don't need a coach because they're still bawling, uh

(16:17):
even without having a head coach. Yeah, but I think
it just comes down to what wins out. Is it
going to be the thunders youth or is it gonna
be the Nuggets experience.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I agree, I definitely agree. I'm going to lean towards
the Thunder's youth. I think it's playing factor in this.
But I told you that the Murray effect if Murray
decides to come out as Agent forty seven or just
be a killer today, And I.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Mean that's that's the thing because your kids, He's had
tomorrow tomorrow, not today. Yeah. Well by the time this
this this loads up, get the game will already happened.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
But fantasy.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, but yeah, but yo, kist like there's been games
where he I think it was Game five where he
had like forty four and fifteen and they still lost
because Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Judian didn't show up.
So I think that that's gonna be the keys, Like
you know, Ken, Jamal Murray show up, kid, Michael Porter
Junior show up. Can they get anything out of Russell

(17:30):
Westbrook at this point? So those other guys have to
show up and help. Yo, kich out.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
I dig it, I definitely dig it.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Do you have anything else on the playoffs you want
to touch on before I ask a couple of the
NBA questions.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Nah, I mean, I think he covered it pretty much
both all the series.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I think it's actually been a real good playoffs this
year outside of recent years that were more recent years.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I will say this about the Eastern Conference. I was
I'm actually surprised that the two top teams in the
East got knocked out. You know, Cleveland in Boston they
had like I think Cleveland won sixty four games, Boston
won sixty one games during the regular season, and the
both teams got knocked out.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, I think see about was telling you before.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I think sometimes teams put too big of an emphasis
on getting that regular seedon record, and they and they
gassed themselves out. I did see that the Lakers said
they're not interested in trading Austin Reeves, but they would
trade possibly trade them for a big man. Personally, I

(18:49):
feel like they're talking to the Milwaukee Bucks when they
say that. But I don't know what else they could
they could even offer in that type of package, unless
you just giving up the bron James to tell you
the truth.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, they don't have any They don't have any draft
picks to offer Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Like, I guess you could offer them Rieveschi Moa.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I mean a few other things.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
But I don't understand how you would make that trade
work unless it's another lay down and after the Luca trade.
I mean, people will go bat ship if you trade
Joannis but for Austin Reeves and a bunch of extras.
But I won't say it would surprise me if I

(19:37):
see that happen. What are your thoughts on the big
men that you think would be available for trade in
this type of scenario.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Well, I heard her looking at I want to say
his name is Nico Collins, but I could be wrong.
The big men for the the Brooklyn Nets. Let me
look that up though, so I can know.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I think I heard Let's says the same name as
the wide received from the Texans.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, I don't, but they're interested in him. I want
to make sure I get his name right. Hold on,
let me look him up. Uh, but they're they're interested
in getting him from the Brooklyn Nets. I think to me,
this is gonna be a big off season for the Lakers.
Excuse me, Nick Claxton, that's his name, Nick Claxton, the

(20:35):
center for the Nets. They're interested in picking them up.
But I think this is gonna be a huge off
season though for the Lakers, because one of the things
that people are not talking about is that Luca can
opt out of his contract after the twenty twenty sixth season.
So if things don't go their way this next season, look,

(20:56):
it could be like I'm out and be a free agent.
So to me, I mean, yeah, he's all in until
he's not. You know, We've seen this some players all
the time. No, I wouldn't believe. I'm not gonna believe
he's all in until he signs that contract extension. If
he doesn't sign an extension this see us this summer,

(21:16):
then he could opt out after the twenty sixth season.
So to me, the Lakers have to prove that they
can put a championship team around him. I know they
want to get one more ring for Lebron, but to me,
I think they shoudn't even consider Lebron because Lebron's gonna
be forty one going into next season, and so He's
not your future. Your future is Luca. You made the

(21:38):
trade to get Luca because you say he's gonna be
the future star of the Lakers. And so if you
want to keep onm you gotta, you know, make you work.
And they gotta start with this offseason by getting some
players and build them around him, because what they've done,
I mean, we could talk about their lack of defense
like a big man, but it's not just the lack

(21:59):
of big man. They had no bench, no DIBt either.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Well, I have a hypothetical question, right, and I'm sure
this probably couldn't happen. I mean, I'm not I won't
guarantee this, but I'm pretty sure Bron has a no
trade clause in this contract.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
I doubt that.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
He probably has a you can't trade my son clause
in this contract at this point. So I wouldn't doubt
that he probably would at first say if he wanted
to trade him, but just say he doesn't. Right, just
for the art of conversation, Right, if they call the
Bucks and they say, how can we get you know

(22:42):
you're moving off of Giannis? It looks like, how can
we work out the trade with Austin Reeves? And the
Bucks say there's only one way, send us to Austin
Reeves and Lebron James and will send you Giannis right
now with say a draft, right, which is crazy if
you think about it, because Joannis is probably the most

(23:02):
valuable piece in this right now.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Right, Do you.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Trade Lebron to bring in Giannie to put with Luca?

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I say yes, but Lebron has a no trade clause.
The question is will Lebron be down for it.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
No, Now I'm saying wripe that off the board. I'm
just saying you, yeah, yeah, for me, I would.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I would do it.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I would need to do it because the timeline is
match more.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Right. Yeah. I think if I'm the Lakers, I would
do it. If I'm the Bucks, no, yeah, no, no, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I mean strictly speaking, if you was the Lakers general
manager and they said, look, we'll give you him right
now for Lebron and Austin.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Reeves, I mean yeah, I'll definitely do it.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I would make the trade.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I just wanted to see where who was at on
that that idea right now. But I'm pretty sure there's
no way Bron's going anywhere if his son's not coming
with him. And I no, Well, I'm about ninety nine
percent sure he has no trade carse.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Him, Lebron James and Bradley Beal are the only two
players in the NBA right now they have a no
trade clause. Yeah, it may.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I don't know how Bradley Bell pulled it off, but
it makes sense for Lebron.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah. I don't know how Bradley Bill pulled it off either.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Not at this point is create Anyways, I guess we'll
move to that. I mean, do you have any other
NBA questions before we move the NFL?

Speaker 1 (24:33):
No, I think the NBA as far as like a
trade speculation all that. Well, and I'll say that I
take that back. What did you make of the lottery,
Because a lot of people are saying it's rigged because
of Dallas Mavericks got the number one pick in the
in the NBA draft and so that the NBA rigged
it to make it up for the Lucal trade.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I hate to get into conspiracies, but that listen. They
the NBA knows what they're doing. They're leaning towards what's
best for business. I don't know how they do what
they do, but they know what they do. What they do.
I just leave it at that.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
But we do think of the concept of having a
lottery though, because the NBA is the only sport where
the worst team doesn't get the number one pick. They
have like a lottery system. To me, yeah, I don't
like that because, like, if I'm a fan of the
Charlotte Hornets, it's like, my team sucks already, and yeah,
we don't even get a top three pick. We get

(25:33):
you know, the six pick or something like that.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yep, and that's how we're supposed to get better. I
hate it.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
And I've seen people arguing that the NFL needs to
adjust to a lottery. I feel like slamming my head
off the wall. It's like, are you crazy like that?
The NBA lottery is the most sham shit show in
all the sports. Yeah, it's simple. When you're the worst
team in the league, you need a high draft pick, right.

(26:00):
The fact that they reach in there and snatch it
from you like they taking your soul on some shame
some ship. Nah, brother, I can't get behind it, you
know what I'm saying. So I don't care if you
send me a check under the table. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
We suck. I need the player, not the money. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
So if you're the Charlott Hornets, is like, Okay, how
are we supposed to get better because ain't no, ain't
no free agents come to Shirley.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
No.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
So the way you could get better is by drafting guys.
And you can't even get like a forget the number
one pick, Like you can't even get like top five. Yeah,
a lot of drop all the way to like six
or seven.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
But I think these are a few of the reasons
why the NBA in this era is catching up to
them like they need to. They need to adjust a
few things for better, not for the worst like they've
been doing. The lottery sucks, bro, I'm just calling what
it is. People could be mad at me, but I'm not.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
They're the only what that does that.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not a fan of the NBA lottery.
When it's like, look at you see who's the best?
That you see is the worst? A team should not
should not benefit and and be rewarded for giving away
a top five player in the league.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Well not like that. But even okay, even after the trade,
if Kyrie Irvin doesn't get hurt, Dallas probably makes the
playoffs this year anyway, even with Anthony Davis. I mean
they were in the play in tournament, so like they
were good enough to make the playoffs. So they're They're
not a team that needs the number one pick. All

(27:44):
you're doing now is by adding by then by giving
them the number one pick. And if Cooper flag is
what everybody says he is, Dallas could easily be back
in the finals next year.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
You rewarded him for making a bad trade.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, that too.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
They shouldn't even be in the running.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Like, think about it like this, Do you think the
Lakers would have got the number one pick? No, No,
everybody knew it was like a one percent chance. That
was a one percent pick. That's a number one pick.
That's why everybody was laughing until they wasn't right. So
I just my whole thing is.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Rigged and not rigged.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I just think that you go in the pecking order
from worst the best. It's just the common sense logic
in any draft order that you do. There's no reason
to scratch a scratch ticket after you see I suck,
Like damn, bro, you not insult the injury because you
know I suck. Everybody knows I suck and they're good, right,

(28:51):
but you hand us both scratch tickets and you remind
me again I'm the loser in there, winner right like nah,
bro get rid of at shit. That's my last my
last words on the lottery. I haven't liked there over
twenty years. Last time I enjoyed the NBA lottery might
have been when Ray Allen was drafted, Like there was

(29:13):
a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
You know, was like good what ninety six?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I think Iverson might have been in that draft through
a bunch.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Of my love, that's one of the best draft classes
ever yet, Kobe st Marberry.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
That's why, like I said that draft, I ain't gonna
lie to you. There was no way to not be
excited about that draft. I wasn't thinking about who's rigged.
I was watching to see where they go because I
genuinely knew who probably forty of the prospects were. Right now,
when you watch a draft, sorry, fellas, I promise you
and I and I watched a good amount of college

(29:52):
basketball and college sports, right, I don't know forty of y'all.
Right now, the NCAA don't won't even promote for the A, y'all.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
They picked.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Well, for basketball, it's hard because the best players, like
back then, I ever seen Ray Allen, they spent you know,
two three years in college. Nowadays, the unknown in their
draft was uh Kobe because he came out of high school,
so nobody knew really knew who he was. But the
other guys like uh Ai, uh Ray Allen, Steve Nash,

(30:25):
stef On Marberry, we all knew them because we all
watched him in college for multiple years. Now with college
basketball after one year, everybody just leaves to go to
the NBA, So to know them, I know.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Their game, and I don't think it's promoted the same
like when I was younger, I used to like wait
for like the McDonald's All American tournaments and stuff like that.
I maybe I just fell off. It just doesn't seem
as big as when I was younger.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Well, yeah, this year it was kind of big, only
because uh Carmelo Anthony Sun was in it and Gilbert A.
Rene's son was in it. So it's kind of like, uh,
you know these players, you know their their kids are
now now McDonald's All American, so it kind of hyped
it up a little bit this year. But yeah, I
agree with you for the most part, it's not hyped

(31:21):
up the.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Same like the NBA.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I don't know if it's there promoting or they're not
using the same outlets. I know they flip flops on
channels and stuff like that. And my lights, you see
my lights flick on and off.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, I know. It was going on to getting you
the horror movie.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah listen, let me know. Hopefully I don't open that
door and some Walking Dead ship's going on. But we're
getting off of the their that possibly rigged the draft.
What did you think about the bron party, Dale.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I thought it would I was prized, but if I'm
a Niners fan, I'm happy because it was a it
was a reasonable deal. Like Brock perty didn't like you know,
he didn't extore them, He didn't take him. You know,
he didn't take him for every penny. He left some
money on the table, and so it allows them to

(32:19):
get a deal with Fred Warner or whoever, or even
possibly bring us some free agents to help him out.
So I thought it was a team It was a
team friendly deal. And we talked about the last show
that he possibly might know get Dak Prescott money because
Dak Prescott is still the highest paid player in the NFL,

(32:40):
making sixty million a year. But he said, but like, nah, yeah,
but bron Perty' is like no, just I'm satisfied with
taking Jared Goff money, which is fifty three million a year.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
I don't think it's a bad deal in all, honest stage.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
The one thing I would say that I hate about
the DAL, I mean, the kids deserves sixty five million
a year. That's the Rams fans in there talking. I mean,
I think, by y'all, y'all, y'all, lowball of this man.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I did.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I did the Scott Steiner math. I did it right, and.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
After doing the math, it looks like he was worth
about seventy one point five five nine three million per year.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Well, hey, we talked about this last time too. If
I'm the aging I'm saying like, hey, look at what
my guy's done in just three years in the league
compared to what Dak Prescott's done in ten years in
the league. Well this is the hot Dak Prescott's highest
sped quarterback, and my guys accomplished more than Dak Prescott has.
So yeah, given eighty million a year while we at

(33:53):
and and.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
They're even luckier that my calculator, don't factor in Dak
Prescott math because those numbers, he might have been worth
about one hundred and twenty seven million per year. So
I mean, as a Rams fan, I just felt like
he was robbed a little bit. Good for the good

(34:14):
for that man, though all all jokes aside, last pick
in the draft, super overachiever, real good player.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
That's the going rate.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
So I'm not gonna knock somebody's value when I believe
there's worst quarterbacks than him getting paid more than him
right now personally.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
And I know, and I will say this about Rock Purty,
and this also goes to the draft that just happened
a few a few weeks ago. Yeah, but don't let
you know, we we make such a big deal about
like guys going in the first round, but don't don't
let that you know, just because the guy does go
in the first round doesn't mean he can't be successful.

(34:54):
Because you know, Rock Purty, as you just said, he
was the last pick in the drafts he went the
seventh round. But you look at that draft class, that
twenty twenty two draft class, Rock Purty's far, in a way,
the best quarterback in that draft. He's been better than
Kenny Pickett, even though I think Kenny Pickett kind of
got a raw deal in Pittsburgh. Will see how he

(35:15):
does in Cleveland. But he's been better than Kenny Pickett.
He's been better than the Desmond Ridder. He's been better
Who else was in that draft class? I think it
was the top two quarterbacks, Yeah, Kenny Pickett and Desmond Ridder,
But Brock Purtty has been better than both of them,
and he was the last one taking. So you don't
put too much. So for all these quarterbacks that went

(35:36):
in the third, fourth, or fifth round, I mean they
still got a chance to make it. So don't just
think that because especially with Shador Sanders, don't think just
because he didn't go in the first round that like, oh,
he's gonna be righting the bench for his whole career.
He has a chance to it is.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Most of the top quarterbacks weren't drafted high outside of
Peyton Manning. One of the big reasons why is your
product of where you're going. So you could be the
greatest prospect in the world and you got taken number
one to that ship show. It's a bad organization. Your
coaches are going to be switched every single year.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
You got no.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Only Peyton mann and could fix that type of ship.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
And that's well so far. I think. I think in
the last twenty years, only Eli Manning, Jared Goff, and
Joe Burrow. I think they're the only three number one
picks to actually take the team that drafted him to
the Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Number Manning demanded out of when you got drafted by
but technically.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Well, well, his daddy demanded get out of San Diego.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, but because he might have been in trouble over there,
he wouldn't have had that.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
His dad's like, hey, I saw what you'all just did
the Drew Brees. I don't want that for Mustling.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, and it's a shame that Dion got got like
Dion and shadeor got closeline for him just watching the
same for his son. I mean, it's I don't I
can't get behind that. I leave it alone and just
hope he does well. But they down every rock in
front of him to make sure he trips. I really

(37:21):
don't like well.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I will say this though, though, like he has a
he actually has a legitimate chance to be the starter
because it's a competition. The coach says gonna be a
competition between him, uh, Dylaney Gabriel who they also drafted
in the third round, Kitty Picky who they traded for,
and then Joe Flecker, who's like, you know, fifty.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I mean yeah. My thing is that I think they
need to stop this service in these kids and release
Kenny Pickett, not because of the talent wise that's doing
him a favor. It's not gonna work here right now.
We got two young kids that I'm just more interested
in them than you. Right, I would release Kenny Pickett.

(38:03):
He'll get another situation, right, well, I'll just trade it
for him.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Though, doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I don't think they expected to get Shador sand Is
in at the end of the draft.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
It just yeah, you can't just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I just can't assume you knew you was going to
do that, right, So I look at it like this,
I'm releasing Deshaun Watson. I'm eating that on the button.
I'm eating whatever I have to eat for that money.
I'm sending him out the building.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Right, I'll just hear.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
They're saying them like fifty million just to rehab.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, I'm just sending them out the building. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
You could recoup, you recoup, right, And I'm not going
to get into his personal stuff. I just last time
I seen him on the football field, he's gottage. I mean,
and I don't mean my father. Worst quarterback in the
NFL that I've seen the past few years, and that's
counting the backups.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well yeah, I mean also too, like two years ago
what he got heard people forget joe Flecko came in
and like that team to play playoffs.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
I know, you see me argue for Joey that year.
People was acting like, yeah, nothing to do with it,
Like look it. I told them when I well, talk
to me next season. And then Watson fell off a mountain.
I went and I sent some receipts out. None of
them bit the hook.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
They knew.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
It was like, no, we're not debating this again. But
the thing is this, right, get rid of Watson. It
just don't make sense right now, right, Just get ridy.
I don't think we'll ever play it down in the
NFL again ever anyways, And that ain't because my personal feelings,
just what I believe will happen.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Can he Pickett?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
You release him because he deserves better than being behind
two rookies or you know, he's still young, he has
a shot he could rebound like Sam Donald something like that.
This is just not an ideal situation. I know you
thought it could be when you traded for him, but
it's not no more. So I'm releasing it.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I'm starting Joe Flaka because he could teach them young
guys the most, right, I agree, And I'm letting those
two guys behind him compete for the job.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Whoever wins it.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
It could be halfway through the season, if they're ready,
it could be maybe Joe Flacco starts for one year.
Just those other two guys don't make sense to me,
no more, just from a business perspective, other than that,
you're doing Kenny Pickett a disservice, You're doing Sander's and
Gabriel a disservice. You're doing Flacco and watching the disservice, like,

(40:47):
what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Well, for Watson, I'm with you, like, he doesn't he
doesn't even matter right now because he's not gonna play
this year. And I'm with you, like, at this point,
just eat the money and just release them for Flacco.
But what you just said, though, makes sense, because Flacco,
he's I know, I know, I'm joking about his age,

(41:11):
but he is in his forties. I don't I don't
know how exactly how old he is, but he is.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
You're pretty sure he's the oldest quarterback in the NFL,
even if Rogers is back.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
But yeah, with Flacco, you know, he's not the future.
He knows he's not the future. And so it just
gives those two guys that they just drafted, Gabriel and Sanders,
a chance to learn from him and kind of just
see how he conducts himself and prepare it. And then

(41:41):
then maybe not this year, but next year they could decide, okay,
who's going to be our start, and then let Sanders
and Gabriel kind of duke it out to figure out
who's gonna be the starter. For Kenny Pickett, I was
thinking that, Okay, they probably watched the tape from that
one game he started in Philly where he balled out.

(42:01):
Granted it was against the Dallas Cowboys, and everybody looks
good against the Dallas Cowboys, especially last year, but Kenny Pickett,
the Kenny Pickett I saw in that one game in
Philly last year, he looked a million times better than
he ever did in Pittsburgh, and so I'm thinking Cleveland's
probably thinking, Okay, we're gonna get that guy. And if
we get that guy, he could be our quarterback from

(42:21):
the future. Because Kenny Pickett is still young too. He's
he's been in the league for like three three four
years now. So but I think what you just said
that it made sense, and I didn't think about like
they're like, you know what, just get rid of Kenny Pickett.
You drafted two quarterbacks in this draft, and see what
you have in those two. Because even if you have
Kenny Pickett and in the start, make Kenny Pickett the starter.

(42:42):
Let's say he wins the competition in preseason. Like you said,
you dis services, You're gonna do disservices the other two
quarterbacks that you drafted because you got everybody's still young.
He Kenny Pickett's only like two three years younger than
I mean two three years older than they are.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yis he came out young.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
And that's that's the thing is just timeline wise, it
don't make sense, and there's gonna be hostility and anger.
Everybody wants to start. Joe Flacco will pass you the torch.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, Like I mean it's gonna be awkward to regardless
because you have two rookies fighting for the job because
you drafted two rookies in the same drift class.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
But my guess, my guess would be like if from them,
obviously I'm saying release, you probably could recoup a pick
for Kenny Pickett probably the team for that midway through
the season or even next year. Once you zone in
and you decided Sanders or Gabriel the other one's worth something, especially.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Someone be like, oh, yeah, this is this could be
our guy for the future.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Especially after a year of development. The Browns got a
good offensive coordinator right now. Don't forget about that. Stefanski's
over there.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Right, two time coach of the Year. Yeah, so you
got to.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Think like this, right, if he just does a little
bit of development on both of those guys and he
picks one, the other one is at least worth where
they drafted him last year, right, I think Gabriel would
probably slip. I don't think they would get where they
drafted him, maybe get a later round. But I also

(44:19):
believe Sanders might get them an earlier round pick then
where they drafted him. If you develop him and he
goes through a year with no problems. You don't see
no drama, no devinness, no problems with Dion. Teams will
ease up. He's worth a top second, third round pick,
maybe even first. Once they see this no problem for

(44:43):
a year, some will bite so.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Especially depending on especially both of them ball out in preseason. Yep.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
And that's that's why I would showcase them. They give
you the most value and their potential start is don't
do to Kenny Pickett. Man.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Let him go somewhere else and be free.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Well, the one thing I will say about Kenny Pickett
I think for right now, instead of releasing them, I
would just hold on to him and see what happens
during preseason because you know, as we know, players get
hurt all the time. So all it takes is for
one of these quarterbacks to get hurt in preseason and
there's gonna be a market. It's kind of like what
the right the Eagles did with the Sam Bradford where

(45:27):
Teddy Bridgewater got hurt. Uh, Teddy Bridgewater got hurt for Minnesota,
and then they got desperate and gave the Eagles all
these first round picks for Sam Bradford. Yeah, and then
Sam Bradford got hurt. It was actually kids keyting that
led him to the NFC Championship game that year.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
I think I think even right now, if they decided
to trade Kenny's Pickett, is the age alone will get
you a pick? Yeah, let alone his last tape. And
people got to remember when these kids are coming out
of college, say this, fifteen teams that liked him, they
don't all dislike you now because you went to Pittsburgh

(46:07):
and you played bad that already had their grade on you.
So they have an idea of what they do with
you when they when they pick you, and you having
a couple of down years in a bad system, I
don't think it's gonna sway any coaches away from you.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Well also too, I think we talked about off air
about Sean McVay not having patience. I think the problem
is Mike Toman didn't have patience either, because he never
developed Kenny Picky. He just like, after like a couple
of years, or just get rid of them. Bro.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
They haven't let him throw. I mean, he was probably
averaging twelve thirteen passes a game.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
They're playing that, Yeah, they're playing that nineteen seventies offense.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Yeah, and I mean, how do you he's a passer.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I mean, how do you supposed to get in the rhythm,
get hot, get confident, fail yourself when they're telling you
we're going to hand the ball off thirty two times,
the backup.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Running back gonna get more carries than you get throws. Like, bro, No,
it's that.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
That's that's where like sometimes it's just a failure situation.
And that's why I would say I prefer to see
Kenny Pickett get the hell out of it because right
now the brown if the Browns believed in Kenny Pickett,
they had no reason to draft another quarterback.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Not just another quarterback, two of them.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, Like taking Sanders late in the draft cool, because
it's like, damn, he's still on the board.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yeah, but why did you dive in in the third
and take Gabriel?

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Like you think he's better than Kenny Pickett obviously, right,
or you wouldn't have did it so that that's that
would be my problem with that. Another thing, one thing
I do like that I think bodes well for Sanders.
First of all, he is better than Gabriel. I have
no problem saying that any aspect of football metrics that

(48:06):
you go look at, Sanders is better than right lineage,
just everything. You doesn't matter where you go. You could
say he's arrogant. I just say he's confident right bounce around. However,
you want the one thing that I do like And
I realized, remember that Brown's room, how it looks super

(48:27):
awkward when that Jack thing happened. They let that out earlier.
They said everybody in the room didn't want him, and
the coach demanded they trade up to get him, and that's.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Why he was.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
The owner. The owner.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, well, you might be right, but now we know
why that room was like, like, yo, they did not
want to bring him in there.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
But but that also gives me reason to believe he
has a chance.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
He might if that kid looks good at practice, he
might fire all of y'all and keep him.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
He definitely has Like I said, he definitely has a
chance because I mean Deshaun Watson, he's out, he's heard,
and then it's really much a four way battle between Flacco, Picket, Gabriel,
and Sanders, and so it just comes down to whoever
balls out in preseason.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, and I don't even think Flacco is part of that.
He's just a participant right now. I think they're just
looking at the other three.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
You know what he could do. You're just watching the
other three.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Oh yeah, because two years ago no Fleco led you
to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah, even if you think Flacco's a bump right now,
you still know kind of have an idea what he's
gonna do, and you just kind of zoned in on
the other three. But I the reason why I say
that I believe he has a chance there is because

(49:58):
when I first looked at it, I felt like it
was they drafted him to sabotageing, you know what I'm saying.
Without that story letting me know someone was going to
batman over there, it looked like the NFL said, just
draft him and shut shut people up. And they all
just look mad in that room, like, all right, we'll

(50:18):
bite the bullet. We're released in by week two, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
What I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
But then, but then getting that story at least gives you,
you know, it's like man always, Yeah, I want to
see him stop for them.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Well, the team to me that looks the worst right
now is the Saints because obviously they didn't know that
Derek Carr was going to retire. But no, we know
now they should have took him. Yeah, they should have
took him.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I mean they took Tyler Shuk so they didn't want
stand this.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, but I think they took Tyler Shoke thinking like, okay,
he could be a nice backup to Derek Carr. They
wouldn't expect it wasn't expecting him to start. No starter, I.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Agreed, But listen, you get what you asked for, and
so it is what it is. My brother, I ain't
giving him the pass. You took the quarterbacks you wanted,
you got him, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Now now he's your starter.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, now bite the bullet. Where's take some Hell, maybe
you could run some half back draws.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
I mean, like, I don't I don't know if the
new coach kept him around or not.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
They're running the ship show. That's the that's the problem
over there, They're running the ship show.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
I remember Sean Payton said that when we played him
in the NFC Championship game back in eighteen, and Sean
Payton was saying that, like, yeah, Tayso Hills gonna be
a quarterback of the future. And then when Sean Payton retired,
they got that new coach up in there. He's like, hell, no,
we' getting Derek Carr.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
He said no, but he said, I think anybody but
this guy like can't throw twenty five y'ads A great, It's.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Like, come on bro.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
And it was funny too. Is that Champagne didn't even
want him in Denver?

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Yeah, you're out of it. No, no, no, no, can't do,
my brother, No, can't do.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
But any specific things you want to touch on if
I jump off from grub and jump on another podcast.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
But well, I did want to go over the NFL schedule,
but I know you gotta you gotta.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Go, now, go run it right. You got got a
couple of minutes, all.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Right, Well, okay, quickly, let me pull it up real quick. Yeah,
so we'll just go over well, we'll do this because
we don't have time to go over the whole schedule.
But what do you make of the NFL? So they're
saying that the New York Giants, which surprised me, have

(52:51):
the hardest schedule in the NFL. Uh, yeah, I believe,
So hold on, let me pull it up. So the
Giants and the Bears have the hardest, which surprised me
because those are two teams that missed the playoffs, so
I thought they would have easier schedule while the Niners,

(53:13):
the Niners, you right, have the easiest, have the easiest
schedule in the NFL. So what do you what do
you make of that? The Bears and the Giants having
the hardest while the Niners have the easiest.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
It's the NFL doing that version of the lottery, and
that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
It's like, bro, look, you know the Niners is good
than that injuries, So now you're gonna give them cakewalk.
These other teams are fighting for their life. You're throwing
them in the water with no rafts, Like, come on, bro,
like this.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Like for me, I think, I think it's bullshit in
the sense that okay, if I'm the if I'm a
Bears fan or Giants fans are okay, my team's asked anyway.
Now now you're just making it harder for us. And
then but I think, I again, I don't want to
get into conspiracies, but there is a conspiracy. The Super
Bowl is going to be in San Francisco this year,

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so what better way to get the Niners in the
super Bowl By giving them a cakewalk.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Schedule, Well, they'd be finance.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
They ran into Matthew Staffords Revenge Store in the playoffs
this year, so let's see y'all later. Yeah, yeah, I
have no fear of the forty nine Ers team this year.
Like something knock on air. Something would drastically have to
happen for the Rams to not win that division by
two games minimum. Something would drastically have to happen for

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the Rams and not beat you by ten points minimum
in the playoffs, like it just I don't think. Well.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
The only thing is, though, is that the Rams have
one of the hardest schedules. So I mean, if we're
going off now, I mean it's hard to say because
it means there's all the surprise teams.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
But one thing, though, I believe what top four team
at least five team in the NFL right now, So
I don't believe any team under those five matters if
we have a hot schedule or not.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
All right, based on the schedule, though, who do you
think would be this year's Washington Commanders, a team that
just comes out of nowhere and just makes a run.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
I mean I would the obvious pick would be the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
I guess because they've underachieved for the past few years badly.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
So well two years ago, two years ago because Joe
Burrow got hurt, last year's because they got off to
a slow start.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Anybody.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, they had the worst defense in the NFL to
top it off, But like I know, for some reason,
the season for the Bengals didn't start into November because
they were like one of the hottest teams in the
NFL to end the season. Unfortunately, they just didn't. They
missed the playoffs by one game.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I like outside of them, a team that I really
really like is the Panthers. That that'd be so I'd
say if I had to pick one that, just like
the Bengals, is the obvious thing. They supposed to be good.
If you're asking me one that's gonna come out of
nowhere and people are probably not expecting as much, I

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say the Panthers.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
I was gonna say the Bears only because if Ben
Johnson is what everybody says he is, then the Bears
should be able to take that take that next step
and surprise people. He should be able to develop because
they're they're giving Ben Johnson all the credit for developing
Jared Goff, so he should be able to develop Caleb
Williams after just after just seeing right now, after just

(56:50):
seeing right now that the Bears have one of the
hardest schedules. I don't know, I might have take that back,
but I am with you on the Bengals. If they
can approve their defense, even though they're rumors that they
might trade, uh trade Hendrickson to the Lions.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
I think it's the backside of the defense. Anyways, they
need to face.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
So they got they drive to that young kid that
could kind of filling them maybe have fixed.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
It back in.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
They do, but if they if their defense could just
be average this year, I wouldn't It wouldn't be surprising
if the Bengals make it to the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
And that's why I would say from from bad to
real good, they'd probably be my pick from a team
that has doesn't look like a playoff team that I
expect to be in this ship probably be the Panthers.
I honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they win that division.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
And I know that's yeah, I'm with you. I wouldn't.
I wouldn't be surprised if they win the division. But
I don't see them, uh being like the Commanders and
making it all the way to the NFC Championship gain.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Honestly don't see them doing
that neither. But I also feel like those games are
already long. I don't think we're going to see a
big up upset to get to the NFC Championship game.
I think we know what it's going to be, whether
it's the Commander's Lions, Rams, and Eagles, take your pick.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
They'll be there two of those teams, right, But I
think the Panthers.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I think the Panthers will give you their best punch
this year and make the biggest improvement.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
And that's why I would name them.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
But we both we both disagree with Troy Aikman though,
because Troy Aikman said this week that the Dallas Cowboys
win the Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah, he's probably been chilling with Michael Irvin lately, and
you probably could.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Catch my drift with that. Bro. Come on, it's like
it is what it is, Bro, you know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Saying, Like, shut up to the legends, but bro, stay
away from that ship.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Man.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
It's like, you know, better, you know what I mean. So, nah,
Dallas Cowboys have no shot. I'll tell you this if
I'm gonna give you one absolute guarantee, absolute that Cowboys
have no chance at winning the Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Absolutely no chance.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
They got a bigger chance of pickings blowing up and
them having a big problem.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
So good luck.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Dak Prescott's getting paid dollars a year. I mean, I
hope he could.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
They be sick. Well, not only that, but they have
a coach that we don't know nothing about, Brian Schottenheimer.
He's been their offensive coordinator for the last four or
five years. They decided to fire Mike McCarthy after one
bad season and then promote the OC, and the OC

(59:52):
has no coaching experience. We don't even know what we're
gonna get from him. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I don't think we'll have as much problem as people
are saying just because he's been there. Some times, the
players just gravitate to people they know, and if you're
just kind of reteaching the same.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Word to me, to me, the problem with the Cowboys
is is Jerry Jones. And I hate to say it,
but until he passes away, unfortunately, the Cowboys are going
to be stuck in the same cycle that they've been
here for the last thirty years.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
So they ain't escaping when you I don't even want
to wish no craziness on people, but they're not escaping
when it happens because his family members are already doing
the same shit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Well yeah, his son, I can't think of his name.
But the son will take over once as father passes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
And he'll do the same shit. So no, it's like
either they get better or they sell the team. Sad
day for the Cowboys. They head the truth, but that's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
What it is, No it is. I mean, the only
hope I can say for the Sun is hopefully the
Sun is smarter enough to understand that. You know what,
I need to hire a g because right now Jerry
Jones is the owner in the GM.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah, and that's what it comes down to. Get smarter,
do better, or it's gonna always be the same boat.
The Cowboys kind of just done the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
In baseball, they had the Curse of the Bambino. They
said that the Boston Rests will curse after trading Baby Bruce.
I live, Yeah, I know, so maybe no, maybe the
Cowboys are cursed after firing Jimmy Johnson after wing back
to back Super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
The Curse of JJ.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Yeah, Listen, might have to might have to do a
forty five minute episode to just recap how the curse began.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
I mean that sounds actually like a real good episode.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
If America team could tune in and give us a
million views on how their team.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Terroorradical, we'll definitely we'll definitely get all the Cowboys fans
out there. They said the Cowboys have the highest highest
fan base. We'll get them all.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Hey, listen, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Maybe I'll drop some Sunday Cowboys content just for y'all. Yeah,
the Curse of JJ. Man, that's that's an episode. Stop
stop cultivating it. Get you get your snippets, bro, just
get them, line them up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
We go with how do you how do you fire?
How do you fire? Coach? I have to win it
back to back.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Super Bowls because you want total control.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
And they haven't been the same since.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Listen, he wanted all the Infinity Stones and broke the glove.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
That's that's what happened. But good luck to them, man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Like I said, I hope Dak Prescott can baby sick
because he's in for a long year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
He's gonna get his money.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
This ship, he's gonna he's gonna have to earn that
sixty million dollar contraarcy yep.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
And and let me say that to say this Pickets
is a great premium grade eight talent. But I've been
telling people this for I mean two three is now
he's the top diva in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
He's in. I was about to say that part of
the reason why the Steelers traded him is because they
saw a lot of the same Ship and Antonio Brown
in him, and it's like, we're not gonna, We're not
gonna do they deal with it for a B for
like ten years, It's like, now we ain't. We ain't
dealing with it. He's out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So and that shout
out to A B. I. You know, A B was
one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Like he's one of the most draft years probably best
pass catches I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Like on a football field.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
He has like remnants of Jerry Rice and certain things
that he does, you know what I'm saying. When when
he was at you know, at the top of his game,
but when those cons start out weighing those pros.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Boy, you know what I'm saying, that's you get yourself
into a problem. And Pickens was never that level.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Of wide receiver. So you're going down, like down the
slippery slope. Acted like you Randy Moss or something, or
you Antonio Brown and you're not that. So I mean,
good luck on your next contract. I hope he grows
up because he is a special talent. And I'm not

(01:04:18):
saying he's a bad kid. But leave that. Leave that
other shit at home, man, Like, just leave it at home.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Come play the game, and you say what you got
to say. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
For better or worse, all that extra shit you just
you don't need it. It doesn't help nobody. It don't
help your pockets neither. That's why Antonio Brown threw a
wet so much money.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Well you're him quitting on the bucks man that that
kind of he ruined his own career with that to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Away, like eighty million dollars with the Raiders too, right
before that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Yeah that too, bro. You know what I'm saying, Well,
it doesn't it doesn't help when you call the GM
a cracker.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
I mean, at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Bottom line is just leave some shit at home, man, Like,
you know what I'm saying, Like, that's it? Like I
miss I miss Marvin Harrison. You know why here come
on the field Stone cold killer. He get off the field.
He's like my Sean Lynch. Bro, he don't even want
to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Yeah. I don't even heard him talk. I don't even
know what he s like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Like, bro, just leave me alone. I'm not I'm here
to get my money. What I have to answer, I
got you can I go now? You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Talk to Peyton, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Like complain to you, you know, in the locker room.
I don't care, Like I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I get it. I've been in locker rooms and I've
complained in locker rooms. I was a wide receiver in cornerback.
You know, I was probably the diva on the team
because I was flipping out in the locker room.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
But the camera and the sideline, but the camera's like nah, man,
like leave that. Leave that to the other people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Just get your checked because they're respected when you when
you when you say some real ship in the locker
and people will listen when you when you just throw
that social media foolish this it don't help nobody, bro.
But other than that, I'm ready to jump off. You
have any last words of the people.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
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(01:06:40):
next time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Hey, this is micing It signing out. It was a
pleasure speaker with everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
See y'all soon.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Alright, peace, all right, my brother