NBA Trade News/Malik Beasley Gambling Controversy/ Mike's Jared Goff Rant

We talk all the NBA free agency drama. Plus, we talk about Malik Beasley's gambling controversy and you don't want to miss Mike's epic Jared Goff rant.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome everybody to the Mic and It podcast. Thank you
for joining us. My name is mab Miz. This is
my co host, Inspector Ant. I'm gonna give you the floor, bro.
I know you got some breaking news on some trades
that just happened in the past few days. So here's
the floor, my brother, all right, what's up with everybody?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
The trier just happened a few hours ago. And h
that's the Denver Nuggas trader Michael Jr.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Mits for Karlin Johnson. So you got any thoughts on
that trade?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Mm hmmm. Honestly, I think both of them mus bring
similar things to each team. It's kind of like a
fifty to fifty trade. Johnson looked good when he first
you know, when we first seen him. But right now
there's always one of those players that I like, uh
up and got rid of, so we can bringing Tim Burant.

(01:12):
Yeah exactly. But I think right now both players we
know what they are. I think we know what they
both bring to the table. I think this works for
both teams. It's not a bad or a good trade.
It's kind of like just like a It just kind
of just looks like an even trade. I mean, probably

(01:32):
didn't need to do it. But I don't think it
makes much difference, Like neither one of these dudes are
gonna tip the scale.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, I mean, the one thing I will say is
that if Junior, a lot of people say that he
could be somewhat of a star, but he's always been
like a yok at your shadow because he's about.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I think he's like third best player. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Now he's going to a team and Brooker it doesn't
have anybody, so he become the number one guy on
that team. And it'll be interesting to see, like now
with the being the point of the offense when you
average like you know, twenty fives, like people say, skateboard
doing but like he did.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
He was in college.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
It's I mean, my honest opinion is it's possible, but
it would probably just be due to inflation.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't think it's gonna make them know better, no worse,
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, I don't think Brooks also gonna be a playoff
hed but yeah, and that like his numbers like go up,
being now that he's the man.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Behind no joking.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, I think I think he could put up big numbers.
But my whole thing, like what I was saying in
the beginning, is I just don't think this changes Brooked
like overall record. This trade just doesn't move numbers for me.
Like it's not like I look at one of these
teams like you just got ten wins better. You know,
it just looks like an even trade. I think Porter

(03:04):
will have the better numbers for sure, due to his
circumstance over there. He's gonna probably shoot a lot more,
you know, But I just don't think it would make
them better. Johnson's probably going to a better situation, honestly.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
But he's definitely going to a better situation, like he he.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Has an opportunity to you know, possibly for a championship
now playing for you know, Denver Brooklyn, who was just
you know, wasting years off his career.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
They might I don't think he changes, you know, leader team.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I think Denver well Camera Johnson is probably still gonna
win plus games with the playoffs next year.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
That's if the yeah, yeah, Chunky crazy best but Michael.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Porter junior and he just goes to a bad team,
but you know, he can be the best player on
the bad team pretty much.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, I think, And that's kind of what what what
I was getting at the beginning. I think that it
works for both teams because I think Johnson's a better
role player, right, and that's what they need over there
in Denver. Porter Junior is probably the better star, and
he goes and gets to be a star. So it

(04:27):
just kind of works for both teams. I just, you know,
I guess it always comes down to that question. Would
you rather lose numbers to be on a good team
or inflate your numbers to be on a bad team.
Now that's up to you know, Porter, you know, maybe.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I mean the good thing for him was he really
has win.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, well now this is a chance to loose up
his number, get paid.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, fair to say, yep, And and maybe maybe he
balls out and gets other people want to want to
go play with him. It's definitely a possibility. He wouldn't
be the first guy to get a new scenery in
you know, Blossom, So I definitely think he has the potential.
I just just the situations just doesn't look good for him.

(05:16):
I mean, the numbers will probably look good, but the
situation doesn't look good.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, I make the trade because it's not a huge
age guy, but Kim Johnson is two years older than
my comporter Junior Johnson's nine reporter JUNI just turn to Soviet.
So it's not a big age difference to normally a
team to kind of lead towards staying younger.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
This sick the younger guy or older that.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, probably saved money in doing so, though they probably
there's got to be porter guy to have a have
a bigger contract or have a bigger contract coming at least,
so we'll see how it goes. I don't mind the
trade from either side. This This is like one of
the the trades that I mean, it didn't really it
didn't move me at all. Really, I wasn't mad. I

(06:07):
wasn't wasn't you know, didn't think it was a big trade.
It just kind of like floated in between, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
All right, and then we have a little trigger. Just
happened like forty five minutes ago. Uh, Detroit Pistons trading.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Then the shooter.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's a Sacramento from Alife monk. So listen, he's straight
from Detroit, and I think this is Detroit singer.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Okay. Last year, I think this Detroit taking to Okac
where I was saying, okay.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Last year he made the playoffs for the first time
in a long time. Well, this young up and coming team.
Before we take that next step, we need to get
a better role players and looking to get Ben the shooter.
But I think Malik up Uh it's the office off
the bench, and I think that'd be a huge move
off the Detroit, especially since they might lose uh, their

(06:56):
best player off the bench. We're talking about him later
with his situation. I think it's a great enough of
Detroit or Sacramento.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I just don't.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, I'm Shrewd. It's probably a Why am I losing
the word right now? I just a buyout. Yeah, there
you go. He's probably a buyout candidate. I say that
the Pistons probably wanted Monk, and I mean maybe Shrewd
plays for does play for for them, But it's like,

(07:29):
I don't see it. I think he's a biot. I mean,
like you said, I don't know what Sacramento is doing.
And Sacramentos had had spurts where they had real good
young talent, but they just never seemed to know what
to do with it.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
I think this is a team that two years ago
pushed the Warriors to a game sivil.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I know.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
The whole team, but everybody.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to tell you. I don't
I don't know what they do, and so when I
look at this trade, it's like I wouldn't personally and
I like Shrewd, but I wouldn't want I probably like
Shrewder more than Monk. I like Monks sometimes aggravates me
when he just gets he just overshoots sometimes and he

(08:18):
gets like that that ball hog mode. But when it
comes to points like Shrewd is not really always going
to give you that Monks at least going for that basket,
you know, like he'll get you some buckets.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Now for the hornets Michael Jordan, who so pissed off
that one came down to the bench and the only
box of the bench.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, so so so understand I'm just not throwing. These
are like years of things. It's not just even on
that team, like there's been a Fe's like an overshooter sometimes,
you know. But the confidence is good and Shrewd is
going to give you other things. He doesn't give you
that as much. I think he'll be bought out. I

(09:05):
think this move favor is the piston. So I'm gonna
lean to what you said. I like I like Monk
on the Pistons if he can give them double digit points,
which you know he's going to shoot enough to get
that right.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, I think he'll be a mess to come off
the bench. I'm giving the least on a good night.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Points off the bench he needs.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
And I think I think the Pistons also too, looking
at all the injuries, you know, Jason, Tatum and Barston,
he's gonna be out for the year. Oh, in the
end of the Halliburt he's out for the year. So
the prisoners look at it like, Okay, the East is
wide open. But outside of the Knicks, who else maybe?

(09:46):
Yeahs Like, look, it's wide open, so let's let's make
some moves and see what we can do next year.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah. So, I mean I like the I like to
move for them. I don't. I don't got a problem
with it. Like I said, I personally, he needs to
give them fit at least fourteen to sixteen points off
the bench, and it needs to be high efficiency. That's
that's what they need from him, you know, they need

(10:14):
they need high efficiency.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, I guess you were talking about it now because
it kind of ties into the trade. Yeah, I think
part of the original of the US movies because, like
I said, the best player off the bench, theason who
finished uh second in the sixth million a year race.
Uh he has seen Yeah, he used to be investigated
by the plays for a gambling and uh the people

(10:38):
are posting like uh him in Minnesota the points Stare
was leading the half of that game two then by nine,
like five seconds left, and he got the ball and
sprinted down to four as fast as you can to
make sure you got that that don't the couple be
done to seven to end the game? People question like

(11:00):
okay on that game because he looked like he was
the only one playing hard the jo like nobody he's trying.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
That's messed up because you could just say you're supposed
to play to the last whistle, right, But but now
that he did something, now it leaves that you know
the question there. But the point is this the way
I look at it, because he's me, right, I'm the
guy that's racing down the court trying to get another
shot off, Like fuck it. You know what I'm saying.

(11:34):
You part of my language. But you played at the
last whistle like that's that's how you play. You know
what I'm saying so for them to train you to
do that and then have a problem when you do
that awkward, But that's what happens when you start getting
investigated for doing things you shouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
At the time.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's about looking at it now.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, like you're looking at bet it now.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's like, okay, hold on like point still stating to
have they're down by nine. Why is he trying so
hard that last book?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Looking he needed to collect.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
They for him in the playoffs last year, was like
he didn't even try on deepense. Just look just buy
him and people winning. Look there to get money off
games too. Well, So like anything that he's done in
his career is like something suspicious.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, well there's other NBA players that was making sure
they didn't get rebounds and that's why they got kicked
off the league.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
So I mean he better on himself.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, he was like I ain't getting four him away,
smacking walls out of bounds and a homo ye just
going going way to pause.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
But it's got that too.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Is he built the under on his rebound total and
when he got clostal reaching it, I told the coach.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, I mean he knows what he's doing. But I
would just say Bisley's done. I don't think he's a
big enough name for the NBA to to give you
any type of pass. You're looking. Yeah, but I mean
not even just that, because remember, I feel like it's

(13:24):
just preliminary where the FEDS is the ones that do
the investigations for them. It's not like he's going to jail,
you see what I'm saying. So I mean, what would
you be going to jail for? You just get kicked
out the league for gambling. Gambling is not illegal, you
know what I'm saying. So yes, because they just do.
I feel like they just do the investigations for the NBA.

(13:47):
I could be wrong somebody, if they hear this, you know,
let us know if I'm wrong about that. But so
I just think he's gonna get kicked out. When the
FEDS is in there, the NBA probably already know you
did something, so they're just trying to get the concrete
kick you out. He's like, I we talk about this
a little bit offline. Jamal Crawfitt was was the sixth man,

(14:11):
I don't know, four or five handful of times, not sure.
He also started a lot. He also was dropping fifty burgers.
I believe sixty burgers. He is one of the best
scorers with a basketball in his hand I've probably ever
seen in my life. Right, he didn't you know, wasn't
a superstar because he had other deficiencies. Right, But Beasley

(14:36):
isn't like that level a sixth man, Like you're not great.
You're great because you're in the league, but you're not
like a superstar in the league amongst superstars.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
You know, he averaged he averaged sixty come up the
best last year.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
That's I mean, that's great coming off the bench. But
there's a reason why he's on the bench, you know
what I'm saying. So that's why I don't believe he'd
be big enough for them to put this like And
I'm not say that they should look at it like this,
and I don't want to just throw other names into it.
But had this so I won't had this been one

(15:10):
of the top five players in the league, they'd figure
a way to keep in the league. I guarantee it's
that they that this is what I mean, and even
if it was, they find a way to it. And
that's why I think they got to be careful if

(15:30):
they if they just keep banning people because one of
your top players is going to get caught, and when
you don't ban them, then what everybody you banned is
going to have a reason to come for you, you know,
so you got to be careful, Like you know, I
would just advise them to be easy Ben and everybody

(15:50):
from this because it's going to be a point where
they're in trouble and they're not going to want to
ban a player, you know, so you might want to
go on a case by case basis and let them
know you're doing that, versus just took.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
A baseball route where they're big band, one of the
best players in the school, keep rose getting the.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Band and I just did.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, we'll think like this though. Most of his career, though,
was already done when they banned him. They just kind
of banned him for being in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
They probably manager, yeah, and they probably let him play
for fifteen years knowing he was doing this and let
him manage and then once they didn't need him a
little different like like right now, if you know there's
a few top five players, like say, for example, Lebron
did it, they might ban you. You only got a

(16:46):
couple of years anyways. Right, but say like a Luca
A Yannis, somebody one of these players, John Moran got
caught flash in four or five guns, and I get it.
They're in state where they're legal, and this is what
I mean. They find ways to justify it if they
know you're good. Right, had jam Rent not been good,

(17:10):
you think he'd be in the league right now, you'd
have been gone. His father's wild out in the stands.
He's flash guns for the Instagram, I believe YouTube. He's
beat up a young kid. Let's just let's just go
through the history. Now he's really really good. They're they're
putting stuff under the rug fan. Right, had he had

(17:32):
been a Mike A. Beasley, bang, you gone like you
have been gone for two of those moves. We ain't
talk about six men now we talk about the best
player on the Memphis Grizzlies. You see what I'm saying.
So that's where they gotta They gotta chill like if
because if you ain't prepared, if you ain't prepared to

(17:52):
ban everybody, you can't ban these players. Give them two
three years and their career put them in. Are you
know a situation where they really think about it. Cool,
but don't ban dudes instantly. And then when when Luca
get caught gambling, god forbid not saying him and you
decide not to ban him, it's going to be an uproar.

(18:14):
That's that's just what's gonna happen. It's too looking at you, funny, Yeah,
I think so.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Going back to the trade, but I think that's I
think Detroit knows something, something's coming. That's why they do
this move because it's pretty.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Much Daisy, Luke and Easy are pretty much the same players. Yeah, well,
I think they know something's coming in. Okay, let's get
somebody they come't here replacing the Probably.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Beasley's gone, bro, he's already gone. I think that already
scratched his name off their board. And that's why they
made the trade. And like you said, Monks way more
serviceable and comparable to Beasley than Trew there is. So
this this trade works out?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Good? What what?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
What else do we out for trades on the board?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
All right, but this is gonna happened last week? Yeah,
but there's a huge trade with the Boston subjects.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Uh. They traded was actually called three So the subjects,
the Hawks and the huts.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
So the Hawks they get Press a sticker round pick,
or the nets they got Terrence Man and the number
twenty two overall pick which they used to draft Drake Power.
And the Selfish they got a gorgeous name and the
circle round pick. So for this trade, I really don't

(19:40):
you talk to or whatever trailer. I don't know how
the trade ben pits for any team, either team. I
think the selfishs got worse the nets.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Man and then the Hawks. I see presents putting the
Hawks over the Hulk.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Hawks I think made out the best because you got
you got Trey so to give him a serviceable big
man point. God Senner, you know, it's just kind of
it's a good it's a good building point if they
keep Trey Young going forward.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Uh like the Hats the playoffs last year, that's I
think Adam Press they might make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Scene.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, this this ain't enough. You got you got the
top and bottom. Now you need to fill in the middle.
Uh yeah, they're far away, so not that.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
I do.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Also like Man. I think Terrence Man is an alright player.
The Celtics I think has got got fleeced the most
in this trade and not get why they got off
the zingis it's the same reason why they got off
a few other people because they they're just kind of
like money saving mode.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Right. Well, it's interesting because.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I just found this out, but the up to its
just sold the team to them, you ownership, just like
they happened to run the same time the liquors had that.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, and I'm out here, so I'm.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Wondering if you owner ship, are they're trying to save money?
I could buy it because you're not here.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Rumors that they might trade Jalen Brown, who's the second
best player and White that doesn't big evil, but I
know Jon Tatum is heard. Are you just gonna just
like four fit next season? And they just you know,
trying to compete in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Seven, But you ain't got twenty twenty seven if you
trade all these players.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Really? Oh yeah, So I really understand the boxes there.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
And that was my whole thing because say, just say
Tatum's off for the whole year, which it looks like
first trade made sense because you're bringing you bringing Isaiah
Simon's or Anthony Sidon Innfonity Simon, and then you have

(22:04):
Jaylen Brown, you have pazingis you still got Derek White.
They still look good. They and you know, things happened
in the NBA. So if they get into the playoffs,
a few injuries happened that get Jaylen Brown might just blossom.
This might be his best ship. Maybe he takes Shaw
on the tear and y'all win. You have a team

(22:25):
to win. Now you get rid of Pazingis, all right,
and now you talk about Derek White and Brown could
be next. You just don't want to win because literally
you bring Pazingis back, you draft well even without Tatum,
you have a you have a fighter's punch to win.

(22:46):
Like things happen no, like we.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Just talked about it with Detroit East is White.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yes, So if you're saying Jalen Brown, Derek White, Anthony
Simon's posey is maybe they brought in one more player
or something they gotta you know, they're already deep on
the bench. What are y'all giving up on?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Like?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Who did you look at that you thought was clearly
better than you? Because when I look at the East,
I don't see that and that. And you know I'm
not a Boston family regardless if I'm out here, but
I wouldn't look at that team, and they would arguably
want to be one of the top three best teams
in the Eastern Conference. So I just don't understand what that.

(23:31):
They basically just looked like they gave up bro, unless
they have Joker dreams or they have Yeah in his dreams.
Like I honestly have no idea what they're doing. Like,
I don't know, They're about to look like the Kings
in the second they keep trading, and then Tatum is
gonna come home and he's gonna be like, this ain't

(23:52):
the home I left. He's gonna be in trouble. He's
probably gonna be demanding the trade. This is how teams
put themselves in those situations. And you know where he's from, right,
Saint Louis where you know where his team is right
growing up? Oh yeah, the Lakers who send him to

(24:14):
La go do it, trade all his players away, and
then get mad when he wants to go live in
Kobe's legacy. So go go fit right, I got no
problems with it, but that that trade I think was
decent for everybody but the Celtics.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Personal opinion, Well, I agree with that. I can't add
much to what you just said. So the last one
and it started to trade. But it's a huge signing
the Knicks. They signed the Jordan Clarkson. So the playoffs
last year, especially in the Eastern Conference finals, one of

(24:55):
the biggest critics, especially with Tom Thibodell, that's part of
the reason why you got fired not playing this bench.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
He couldn't start two minutes. So now you know theremore.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Adding Jordan Parkson, it really up that bench. And because
it's a free agent, they don't lose anybody either. You're
just adding on to what you really have. And uh,
I think I think he's.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
A huge for that.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, that's a good pickup. That's a very good pickup
because I think down down the stretch you just needed
someone else that could do something and you just didn't
have that person.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Or you go to your bench like it's nice to
have a person to help you about the lead instead
of or to start and stuff.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
That all of a sudden you lose.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
And and that's what I mean, like when when you
take those when you get those starting five zero, or
you get into your second rotation, eight man rotation and
they can't drop six points in seven eight minutes, you
know you're in trouble. And that's why, even though I
was clowning monkey, at least he's not scared to shoot.

(26:04):
You know, he's shoot, He's gonna put up shots. I
do like this move. You guys, I want to leave
the Florida You really though, because you're the Knicks fan.
So how do you feel about this?

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Like I said, I feel it's a great move.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
And I and I hate giving of these guys first
sighted the bench because I never played the bench.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
I don't even know what we have put it off
the bench. But I know, uh that Jordan Perkson watching
on the utah.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Uh, he was played for the Lakers and he's also
uh he was on that teams with le Bron and
the Cash and.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
I went to the finals. He's he's a decent player.
He's a decent role player.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
He's a guy who can come off the bench and
he can give you, you know, eight or twe points
the gamch So he'll be a great second score for
that Uh.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
But he was a great score for that unit. Uh.
And me of the old team as AX right now
is most to be the coach.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I'm available, no, no bullshit, I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
We we'll see I have a funny feeling that the
NBA is gonna try to start doing with the NFL,
start doing what the NFL does and start looking for
younger coaches.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I think that's what good coaches like Freddy five.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah at that, so I'd say, y'all probably snagged someone
out of college unless someone else is, like someone great
becomes available. I have a funny feld a lot of
these teams are going to start looking younger, which is
probably up and coming college coaches or just younger dudes
that got on their staff. Things like that, you gotta

(27:48):
you gotta take the Sean McVay chance for the work,
you know.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I think the other thing about that is that I
think the next order of a lunching team with the
shuttle that I can take a chance like that, uh,
a young I can coming coach. I think it's a
lot of asking them to come into the New York
BIS situation because I fired a guy that took me
to the final so pretty much, whoever the new coach.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Is like, the standard now is to get well.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I'll give you kind of why I say that, right,
just take just to go off road for a second.
There was a time in the NFL where it's like
you knew the same coaches was all going to get hired,
You just knew who they was. They get fired for
one team to going to another team, and then then
came along the young Shanahan and the young McVeigh, and

(28:44):
now they're spreading like a virus. These old guys are
struggling to get jobs or they're going to be defensive
coordinators for these young guys or going on these young
guys' stats right right, and the NFS doing numbers. I
think that NBA is just you gotta eventually get to

(29:05):
that point where you gotta you gotta destroy and rebuild.
Stop recycling the Thibodeaus and stuff. He's been around for
thirty years. At this point, get somebody else a shot,
you know, not not even a knock on him, because
I was against getting rid of him, But it's over now.
He shouldn't be highed again. Like y'all can't keep recycling

(29:28):
these same old guys that are not winning, Like you
gotta at some point take a stand. Hire that fresh
young analytics dude that that might know numbers better or
just understands this generation of basketball better than the guy
that's still thinking about nineteen nineties basketball that's been gone
for thirty years, you know, so and that's that's just

(29:53):
I look at it like this. If you're gonna get
rid of a guy like Thibodeaux, shoot your shot, don't
get another guy that's on on that lane, go get
go get somebody young or I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, to a point too, they can also looking at
the g V because at the okay, on.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
The City Thunder, their coach came from the GUS actually
the Thunders uh g le coach, which is the NBA's
you gotn't know uh and then they just promoted them
to know, being the head coach on under the main
roster and not looking at them, you know, to the NIXT.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
To do the same thing too, you know, take their
wherever the g V coach, I don't know if it's
good or not, but maybe promote him. See what you
can do on the main roster.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I mean, you see the Celtics took a chance and
it's been working out for them.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
So that's that's the thing I'm saying. It's like, if
if you're gonna take because Libodeau is a good coach,
it's been around for a long time. Let me make
sure I don't you know, take that away and act
like I'm just throwing bombs or shades on him, right.
But my point is if he brings you that far,

(31:08):
one of your best season and you tap out and
you don't want him no more, then don't hire another
candidate that's similar to that. You gotta you you want
a real fresh start, go get one, because if not,
you shouldn't have fired him, like to fire there's no
Phil Jackson's and you know guys of that elk anymore,

(31:30):
you know, so don't fire him and bringing a guy
that's done the same thing as him for the past
thirty years, like make a fresh start or keep him.
That would be why I'm saying, like if I was them,
I would go for a Brad Stevens tight like not now,
but like when when the Celtics first took that shot. Yeah,

(31:52):
you know, like go do it. The Rams did it
worked for them, The Celtics did it work for them.
There's I mean, I could go through a list of
NFL teams that is working for right now. You know,
the NBA just seems like their gunshot. You keep wanting
to recycle these old coaches and wonder why you're getting
the same results they've been getting for the past thirty years.

(32:16):
Like switch it up. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I will say to the one thing that favors the
knis that they fired.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Look I ever heard them go to any interviews every job,
I should tell you something to the season.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
This is what I'm trying to say, you know, like
it's time, it's time for new It gets to a
point like who's going to be the next coaches for
the next thirty years. We're never gonna know if they
keep hiring these same dudes. So that's that's kind of
where you need to go, Like who's the next Jason Kidd? Well,

(33:00):
you know, the next Nash that wants to go into coaching.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
You know, Like.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
That's what you need. You know what I'm saying. Take
someone with a high IQ level, someone that's played tyrone
low you know, like not now, but when they transitioned
into coaching. Like, take someone that has a high i
Q that played in the game, that has you know,
NBA history, and give him a shot.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Well, I will put this.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Dame out there because he's got that lou I didn't
played in the in the league, but he is kind
of young.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I think it's like the lu.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
That's Michael the loan because a lot of a lot
of people in the NBA circles feel like the Devin
mothers getting dirty.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
And he just wanted anothers A championship just two years ago,
So it might be wanting.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
They might be wanting to bring him back them. They
might want him back.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
That looks like it was on C has too much
influence with the Nuggets.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I was joking. I was completely joking, you know, I was.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I was thinking I was.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Him, and I'm sure they're regretting it.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Right inspired him right before the playoffs started. Mh.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
But yeah he did. He'd be a good coach for
the nickt that'd be a good high.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Should come with him.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Okay, if your kids like him enough, you might ask
to go there. No, that goes what what else we
got working for trades?

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Then? All right? Well then we'll move on from the NBA.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Where Jalen Ramsey. Uh I was on the today Pittsburgh
Steeves trading.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Get the exact Uh yeah, yeah, the Steelers traded.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Unkist trip to the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
The some that drafted though to the uh.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Steers there trading Mika Fitzpatrick twenty twenty seven fifth round,
the drafted shooting Miami in exchange for jam and Ramsey
Jonas Live twenty twenty seven seventh round Draft.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
So what do I think one is trade? All Right?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
The first thing I'm gonna say is that we talked
about the four. Somebody got to move the safety now
on the Steelers. It could be Ramsey. People was talking
about it. It could be what you said off Airport Jr.
Because the dB problem. I say probably Ramsey because the

(36:03):
age problem. But that and you could touch on that
in a second. My whole thing, though, is the Dolphins
get a fifth rounder, which they couldn't probably couldn't even
get for Ramsey. Like I'm sure the Rams would have
gave you a fifth rounder for Ramsey, but I know
the money was a factor, right, So they get a

(36:26):
fifth rounder and even coming off a down year. Fitzpatrick's
I'm Minka Fitzpatricks one of the best safety in the NFL,
hands down, right. He's also too, probably two and a
half years or at least two years younger than Ramsey.
I believe he's twenty eight. Ramsey's at least thirty. Right

(36:46):
at the ages where he talked, Yeah, so I believe
he's twenty eight. But so you get a fifth round pick,
you get Minka Fitzpatrick. That's seven million dollars cheaper. That's
a win. They're also in talks and we'll just I
just throw this up there, in talks for pits with
the Falcons. I wouldn't be surprised if they send that

(37:08):
same exact fifth round pick for Kyle Pitts, and it
would change the whole dynamics of this trade.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
But as of now, they saved seven million dollars, They
got the younger defensive back, and they got a fifth
round pick. The stealers. They added not only six and
a half million dollars for Ramsey's contract, but they threw
a million and a half on top of it, which

(37:37):
was probably the bonus to get them to pick them
over the Rams and come to the Cold Leather, because
it sounded like it came down to them two teams.
So you have to pay Ramsey seven million dollars more
seven and a half. He's also older. I know they
wanted john Us Smith, but if you look at the dynamics,

(37:57):
and they got a seventh round there, so you swapped
a fifth for a seventh you swapped the twenty eight
year old dB. That's seven million dollars cheaper for thirty
year old dB. All that for a tight end. To me,
it would have just made more sense to try to
go on trade for Kyle Pitts since he's on the block.

(38:18):
So I think that Dolphins flat out fleeced them. They
saved money. They brought in Minka Fitzpatrick in a fifth
round pick to give away two players. One they wasn't
gonna re sign anyways, that's why they put him on
the trade block, and one being Jalen Ramsey that I
believe they would have had to cut within the next

(38:39):
week if the Steelers didn't eat Crow and pay him
twenty seven million dollars. So Dolphins won the trade in
my opinion, by landslide. And if they bring in Pits,
it's gonna make it look even worse, like it's gonna
go from a landslide to like two mountains stacked on
top of each other. That's gonna be how far they

(39:00):
won this trade by yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
I have to answer your question about the age. They're
not that far apart.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Ram will be thirty one by the start of the season,
and I'm looking at his country between nine and November
those two.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Years apart, so twenty twenty eight and thirty right now,
I figured, but two years in NFL times is a lot.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, so especially seven million dollars cheaper.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, I agree with you. I think it might be
won the trade. I think that was all I said.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Uh, Jordan forty junior might move to safety is because like,
for whatever reason, he gets a lot of passive calls
against handsy.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, and he likes it.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
And it's like sometimes too, I've been watching him. It's like, bro,
you're a good position, like just keep your hands and
while you grabbing it, like it's like you can it.
So it just starts exactly. Yeah, it's you don't need
to you don't have to touch the guy. You got
no position, just played on the defense. That's why I
thought they might move him the corner. I mean, moved
him to safety. I said, rams plus histgs like uh,

(40:08):
sixth four, so they could use him like like Kim
went to something jam Chancill was back in the day.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
With the see Uh.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
But yeah, said we're gonna use the place safety to
replace his pantry and Nika Fitzpatrick is not, of course
took from that Pittsburgh, but they were part of the
reason of they trade a Fitnzpatrick is because he was
I'm smoking about the defense last year.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
There's another Stewards that ended the season the five.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
He's not supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
And maybe maybe Tom was in.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
The steels, but that's part of the reason. That's in
this part of the reason why they got rid of him.
But I'll bet you I think Miami went the trade
even though Miami now has a Who's gonna replace Ramsey
at the corner? I don't know, but I shot they
win the trail said they saved money like here with
a Ramsey and.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
S two.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
And they and they got a team to take that
whole contract. It gave out the Bucks that nobody expected
them to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
You for Miami, question is just the year they finally
uh get behf he took up a Buffalo on the
division now last six years in Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
And.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I think the Papers have a better chance to win
that division than the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
It's all about me for the pictures, all about how
well does Drake made develop.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I think Drake may be fine. I mean I have
and not. I don't think two is a bad player,
like like a lot of other people. I do think that, yeah,
stay healthy. Yeah that's what I mean. But that's a
body thing. There's not much you could do about that.
You are what you are, right because I don't think
scribage Yeah, because I don't think he's soft. It's just

(42:02):
your body is what it is.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Jake May is better than him. He just has more
and not hasn't proven it yet, but attribute wise, I
think he's just he's just a little bit better than him,
and and.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
You him is just uh.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Now, him playing under the second Biff offensive coordinators a
big impact. Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
It's like, we'll go to group for the Patriots, bring
back Josh Daniels. Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
But we saw this with Met Jones though, and Met
Jones had a great lookie season, made the blue ball
and then I mean brings a different situation. But the
Bill Milichick probably the double stove everybody. Uh, I know,
Josh Jani's got a head coaching job.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
But instead of bringing in about the defensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Matt Patricia, Mike Jones has been say ever since, so
that's O think it says me, Randy, though not doing
the same thing that Drake May, but just having the
different duderstee.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, well, we'll see how it goes. I think that
I think they'll do good by Drake May. I still
don't think any of these teams will overtake the Bills,
like Josh Allen by himself will make sure that don't happen,
you know. So I just I don't see it, but
I do.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Think that better boos.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, I mean so that that's my thing. But I
just kind of think that the Patriots culture just trumps
the Dolphins, like that's that's just kind of what it is,
like their culture and that mind state that they how
they look at, you know, winning and losing. The Dolphins

(43:59):
is out there playing, ain't in the nice weather at
this point, I don't even think they care about the games.
It's beautiful out there, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Petr is cut because a part of the reason why
Nichol Fitzpatrick was in Pittsburgh was because, uh the doctors
of the team that originally Jeff with Fitzpatrick. I remember
think after this rookie year they traded in Pittsburgh. A
lot of that had to do the fact that he
didn't get along with the Brian fred as he was
the coach at the time.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Doctor Percy and black Floy is so now and that's
how I am. But now it's something to a different coaches,
Michael Daniels.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
So we'll see how he gets with the coach of
this time, and it would be any different than his
first goal right in Miami.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I think he'll be all right. I this this just
this is one of the more unique trades. It is
pretty funny that we thought we'd have a Ramsey reunion
with the Rams, but instead we gotta make a Fitzpatrick
reunion with the Dolphins. Yeah, so we'll see a little upset. Well,

(45:05):
this kind of fact is into what we said now
on another episode when I was not I wouldn't say mad.
That probably is a little aggressive. But while I was
a little upset, while the Rams just weren't interest in
Alexander because the Ramsey stuff was never guaranteed, and you
had a twenty something year old cornerback that arguably right

(45:26):
now is probably better than Ramsey went healthy, and you
just weren't interested in them. You just didn't make a call,
didn't care because you were so focused in the Ramsey reunion.
But see, this is what happens. Sometimes when you put
your chips in one corner, you lose right now, unless

(45:47):
Forbes is you're telling me, Forbes took like miles strides,
like huge strides. Right, our cornerback room is mediocre at best.
Some rams I see out there think Keller Witherspoon is
a CB one. He's not. He's not even a CB two,
arguably not even a CB three on most teams. Right,

(46:11):
Darius Williams right now, looking at that lineup is our one.
He's not a one. He's a cornerback two. So you're
looking at cornerback a bunch of cornerback twos, and you're
assuming Forbes is gonna step in to take that one spot.
The only way you'd be comfortable. He's a previous first

(46:32):
round pick, he's six vet six foot plus, he got
his weight up now. But there's no way you're looking
at Darius Williams and Witherspoon and thinking their cornerback ones.
Neither one of them are like, Witherspoon has spurts and
Williams has spurts, but they're both well suited at twos. Now,

(46:54):
Kobe Durant is the outlier because if I'm the coach,
I'm open Forbes and Durant take the jobs. But if
that was the case, I feel like they would have
already did it. So we're running around with four or
five decent players, but at this point, none of them
are better than cornerback twos. And and that's why you

(47:16):
go out and you get a giant Alexander and you
make it work, or you try at least, or you
or you or you give them what they want for Ramsey.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Like that, I think I'll get I agree with you
with them, not for showing jaire Alexander, I do. I
go give them the benefit of the doubt on Ramsey
because a part of me felt like Miami's asked them
for too much. That's why you saw teams like the Chargers,
the Niners and the Lions also not really make a

(47:51):
move on rams.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
You know, all those teams are interesting, they didn't really
make the mooks.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
I felt love Miami's asking for too much, and I
thought those teams have thought okay by which is like
nobody's giving us off. One just cut him and the
all it takes is one dumb ass.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Yeah and.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Themb ass yeah and all money, fifth round picks, all
pro players take it all, just take it. So, yeah,
it only takes but but the and I agree with
the Ramsey thing. I wouldn't have folded it and gave
up the house for Ramsey. I'm more mad at not

(48:32):
our friend Alexander anything. It's like when Barkley came out
the other day and said, the Redskins and the Cowboys
didn't even call me right knowing they was the same
thing with excuse me, excuse me, Commanders. I apologize, right,

(48:58):
but yeah, the same difference. It's like, look, they didn't
even call him knowing they need a running back. Same
thing with Derrick Henry for certain teams. Right when you're
the Rams and you know you need a cornerback and
there's a top cornerback out there. And this is why
I brought up that Michael floor point after. I don't
care what he got to say, because friend did not.

(49:23):
He don't want to see a cornerback one go on
the Rams. They're gonna have to play us in the playoffs.
I told you there was like a common sense fact
that you got to use here. Bro, you know what
I'm saying. It's like even if he hates that man
and he thinks he's great. You think he's going to
tell you I just don't like him, but he's an
amazing player. He's going to tell you, Sean, don't sign

(49:45):
him right, he's yo, he's a cancer. You don't want
to bring him into your locker. Why he's crossing his
fingers because he don't want to see that cornerback in
the playoffs. And that was my point. I preferred Alexander
over Ramsey all alone. He's younger, he's way cheaper. At

(50:06):
this point, Ramsey got a raise, right, So the whole
not being interested shit could cost us a Super Bowl.
This shit, I mean, I hope you. I hope you
believe your man wants you to win, wants you to
win a ring when you was in the same he's
a both in the NFC. Do you really think the

(50:28):
floor wants you to win the Super Bowl? Sean, these
are your friends in the offseason. Stop talking football with
these guys like you don't need to. Don't talk to
Shannan about football because he's gonna pick your brain apart
and try to get people you want. Don't ask him
who he thinks is good, because you're gonna tell you

(50:49):
they suck and try to sign them. Don't talk to
the floor about this stuff. They're not gonna tell you
the truth. It's like talking to a poker player at
the table. Doesn't matter if y'all cool, you think he's
telling you where his cards are. Sure, I'll tell you
what I got, Call me and take my money. Nobody
does that, and I'll keep it a hundred with you.

(51:12):
And Rams fans may not want ahead this, and this
is gonna be a hot take. This is why the
Rams lost to the Patriots. This excuse me. Sean McVay
lost to the Patriots in the Super Bowl. You want
to know why. Now, you're only one that he coached
in the one that he wasn't dead. Don't count the

(51:34):
one the one that, yep, the one you blamed Jared
Golf for. Even though Robert Woods dropped the touchdown and
Brandon Cooks dropped the touchdown, either one of them would
have put us up ten to three, but they both.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Couldn't catch it.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Again, and they admitted after the repster was both passing appearances.
But let's blame Golf and now Rams fans to tell
you nobody ran Golf out the building. Nobody said he's stunk.
The same people that's say that. Now you was one
of them. I remember that. I'm a golf fan. They
told us he sucked. They said Detroit would never be good,

(52:08):
they said he can't win without Sean McVay. Stop lying, fellas.
I'm a rams fan, but I am.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Not a liar.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Y'all hated on that boy, and we know why between us,
we talked about it off camera. It don't have nothing
to do with his play on the field, and he
ain't the reason we lost.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
That sound Now he's in Detroit as a candidate.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Yeah yeah, and kicked us out the playoffs, and we
ain't beat him since he's been there. But hey, how's
Sean doing without golf? Sean can't beat golf without golf.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
He ain't beat him yet? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he
has to. Right. But the moral of the story is
to back up because we just detoyed on the golf stuff.
What was what was he getting at before golf? Because
he wasn't even the top of a discussion.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
I'm bringing up the super Bowl that all right, the super.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Bowl that we lost. This is why we lost, the
same raye, same reason we probably lost Otanjaya Alexander because
our coach decided to go out to eat with the
other coach the day before the Super Bowl, and Bill
Belichick picked his brain upot and destroyed him the next day.
Go fact check it. Why would you ever be in

(53:25):
a thirty year old man, thirty one thirty two year
old man, go sit with a sixty pleasure old genius
at a dinner table and think you didn't give away
your game plan without even knowing you gave away your
game plan, Bro, That's why you lost our girly nine carries.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
That that and he admitted that he was like, you know, uh,
spam boy and see belchick Belichick the first time.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, Belichick took his belt off and spanked him subliminately.
He didn't even know. Way before he got to that game.
Sean lost and he realized that, and that's why when
he got in that game, he started overthinking, no handoffs,
do this. Your receivers couldn't catch you. Wasn't giving Girley
not one screen nine carries blame his nee. We know

(54:17):
you and Gurley ended on a rough patch. We know
you and Golf ended on a rough patch. So I'm
gonna be the guy to be honest here. Sean lost
us that Super Bowl. Not trusting his players and thinking
that going and having a dinner with the goat of
all coaches of all time is why we lost. He

(54:39):
sunned you, bro, He sunned you.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
To. It didn't help to the oc of ex activities
in a being for.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
You can't blame. I'm not even gonna blame for that
because Shawn, don't let them really call plays. Stop stop playing.
He's just a body standing there. Sean got out coached,
Sean got tricked into a lunch, Sean benched his star
running back. And Sean didn't flip out when he's seen
it was passing the fearence in the end zone two

(55:09):
three different times. And if you watch that game, Sean
looked defeated from quarter one. Go watch him on the sideline.
Even admitted it now, he said he got out coach.
It was too big, Fam. Go look at the interview.
So I'm not disrespecting our coach. I love our coach.
I think he's amazing now. But I know that we

(55:32):
lost that game because it was too big, fam, and
he made mistakes. He didn't adjust. It was not Jared
Goff and that's why he apologizes to Golf now, and
that's why he takes he takes acceptance for what he
did wrong in that game. And I guarantee you right now,
if he was playing Bill Belichick and the Super Bowl

(55:53):
and that man called him for lunch, he wouldn't answer
that call. I guarantee you he would tell you that
right now. He wishes he didn't answer that call. He
got you, bro, he standed you. He got you to
answer that call, because that's Bill Belichick calling you. Fanned out,
he brought you to dinner, and you gave away your

(56:15):
whole game plan without knowing it. Let's let's blame Golf
some more, though, But I'm done. I'm done ranting about that. Yeah,
I've been. I have to get that off my chest
for a long time because I'm just tired of RAMS
fans acting like they don't remember what happened. Seeing someone

(56:37):
earlier say it. He said in the in the Netflix
series when Golf say he felt disrespected by the Rams
and he felt like they turned their back on him.
And you know why he said all this. I mean,
anybody would come and sense knows that. And I seen
RAMS fans retweeting it like, yeah, we turned our back
on you when he gave you that big contract. Yeah,

(56:57):
he did. He gave him the contract, and then he
kicked him in the back of the head and said,
don't let the door. Don't let the door hit you
on the way out over text messages. Let's just keep
it one hundred. Yeah, let's just keep it a thousand, right,
And that's why he regrets it.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
You know, and said that the getting treated like that's
been his motivations. Is going to Detroit. All that's done
is you know, he's way better than theory was.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
That's what I'm telling you. He went there to prove
his point. But I just want I want to pull
up all those old treats with all our fan base,
our own fan base wanted to keep retreating that golf
never won without McVeigh. I don't see any of them
saying that McVeigh has never beat golf since he left.

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I mean, you got to keep the same energy. You
gotta keep it.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
So far history want to go back to the nineteen
I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Tell you a few other things, and I'll be brutally blunt,
right love staff it. We got our ring, so we
won the trade as far as you know up to date, right,
But I'll give you another bowl. Take when you have
a quarterback that brings you to a Super Bowl, has

(58:30):
one of the highest going offenses in NFL history on
his rookie dal you don't give up on that man.
Because here's the question. That's the biggest thing for our
fan base. I think God would have won us the
Super Bowl had he not been traded. Now you have
the other side that would say, no, he wouldn't have

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won one. Well, my whole thing is he got to
one young, He's one other playoff games. He showed you
his toughness broken thumb Seattle. We did lose the Green
Bay fine, even though there was rumors are trading him
before that game even started, which was wild to me.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Uch, he wouldn't even start for the game.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Looking at old Wafer, Yeah, golf was I mean McVeigh
was trying his best not to start that boy. I
know that probably was a judgment called from upstairs somewhere
because he didn't want to start him. Yeah, you're comparing
he was trying to start a guy that shouldn't be
in the NFL overdue that that more should have never

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been the NFL he never had that type of talent,
and you could see it when you looked at him.
Anybody who looked at him could see that. A fourteen
year old could have seen that, right, especially when there's
Colin Kaepernick out there at the time. It's like, bro,
start playing games with me. This dude don't got it.
You could go pull a dude off the coach that
is ten times better than him, but y'all acting like

(59:58):
he don't got it and you're trying to to force
this bomb in the lineup. It's ridiculous, right, But my
thing is this, how long ago did this trade happen?

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Right? Five years? Then? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Stafford got one ring before that? He never been to
a super Bowl? Right, all right? Yeah, I wasn't even
gonna get disrespectful. I'm just being honest here, so you
know where I'm going, right, Golf been to a super Bowl?
You want to believe in mind? You Stafford showed up

(01:00:35):
and they gave you the match and the NASCAR everything
they built, and just told you to slide right in.
So the house that Jared Goff built you took the
keys to, right, they was ready to win, right, minus
a quarterback. Supposedly, you sent him to the spot you
couldn't win. He built them up and made them I

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mean the past five years, they've been arguably better than
us majority of those years besides the year we won, right,
So that was.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
The first year, and I think they were good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Yeah, So he went to the team you could have
win with and the same thing he did in Cow,
the same thing he did with with the Rams. He
made them good, which you couldn't do, right, and you
slid into that now scar that was built for you,
my brother, let's keep it a thousand, and you did
win one. Yeah, one of the greatest playoffs playoffs ever,

(01:01:31):
A bunch of clutch throws beat Brady, come from behind,
great playoff experience. But me, I say golf Minor got
us ring in those five years. I'd say he definitely
gets us to ring in those five years, especially if
you continue to build around him like you've been building

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around Stafford. The messed up part is Golf Minor got
us more than one and he's still be here for
ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
That issue at the time up the trades like trade. Uh.
I think it was like twenty five to twenty six five. Yeah,
a guy that's seven years older seven years older to
be jilled buff.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
So like you said, right now, people are wondering, like
what the Rams gonna do with micro Stafford hangs him up?

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Uh, and they got they got himself in a good
position with the picks, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
But it's like, who's a quarterback golf is here? So
that would have been a question because.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
We know, like other let's let's make it worse. Let's
make it worse, give us back our two first round picks,
our third round pick two. It's like, so you're talking
about you could have loaded us up, bro, Like that
was why I was always against the trade. And I
don't want to be a sour butt at the end

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of it because you could go back to my tweets
when it happened. I hated this trade. It didn't have
nothing to do with Staffer. You don't trade the If
you want my young quarterback that went to a super
Bowl for your old guy that never won a playoff game,
I need the first two round picks in the third
Why am I giving you the picks and the player
that made the super Bowl for the guy that never

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sniffed the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
I just do that. Those sticks up the runnings and
rebuilding defens.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Jami, Jameia Gibbs, Sam Laporta, we could let tight end.
We don't got Sam Laporta, not even a guy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Jamesons.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yeah, so look right, what what have we been lacking?

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Actual five to two running back would breakaway speed and
McVeigh been looking for a tight end right. Seems like
you're trading them all away. That's what it looks like
to me, because you had all the picks to get
all these guys. You just was so mad at trading
away or so wont to trade away a young quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
The you know why I had to rent on this.
It's the fact that when when we ran him out
the door, and the reason why I'm ran into especially
because that Netflix series just came out and there's rams
fans lying through the fucking teeth and I'm not gonna
say pot in my language there, because we could pull
up all these tweets of all these motherfuckers that said

(01:04:23):
Jared Goff sucks. You know what I'm saying, all of them,
we pull them all up right now after all all
of that ship running him out the door and telling
us how bad he was and what he couldn't do
and bashing all them right now when he said you

(01:04:44):
did that, not one of them will admit it, not
one of them, Not one of these Rams fans onto this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
No, I know, but that's just.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Right that that's my thing. Yeah, you're acting like your
bashing them, and it is justified bashing. But the truth is,
look at the numbers. Jared Goff's been better than Matthew
Stafford since he got to Detroit. If you want to
look at from beginning to end, well look at them.
Look at the numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Since the Train quarterbacks have better numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Patrick Mahomes Yep, more wins, more everything, I believe, way
less interceptions for a guy that you said can't keep
the ball clean always, Bro, I'll be honest with you
and conse sense with being honest here, and I know
a lot of RAMS fans gonna be mad at me

(01:05:41):
for this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
I've never seen worse interceptions than a few of the
ones Matthew Stafford throws. Unless we go to Brett five,
they throw some of the worst interceptions and super excuse me,
in the modern day Super Bowl History era, they'll look
at the defendant, throw them the ball in his gut,
like to the point where it's like, did you bet

(01:06:03):
on an interception? They be real bad bro, Like now
they missed like it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Say especial as uh, it was interceptions. When he throws
into trip of coverage, what.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Are you looking at? Like? And that's why I look
at this. I've never seen Jiared Goff doro that bro.
I've seen Jared Goff have miss reads or blind spots.
I've never seen him look at a player dead in
his eye and say, hey, number fifty nine, take it
and throw it at him. I've just never seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
And the one I do look about Jared Goff's game
that where he's really improved that and I got to
give a lot of credit to the Detroit coaches that
said he just starting to become I want to say
he is man. It's kind of right for the man
and such that they give him the freedom. So yeah,
they're give the feet of.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
The skin of the lad scrimmage, bring the defense and
then change the plane.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
They just trust, they trust, and he never did that
with the Rams. The knock on Sea Bay early on
is that that could be here went to the to
the cutoff front. He would have let golf, you know,
just read the defense.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
And that's the worst. If Sean McVay would have trusted Golf,
he would have even been playing on a higher level
than he is now because Sean McVay is a better
coach than who he's with now. The reason why yeah,
the reason why Golf's playing at this level is because
they trust him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
His confidence is up. In twenty eighteen, when when Sean
McVay believed in Jared Golf, we was the second highest
scoring offense in NFL history. Golf went and played Patrick
Mahomes and outdueled him fifty four fifty one and the

(01:07:54):
highest scoring NFL game in history. Only time two teams
have dropped fifty points and went dime for dime with
Patty My Homes Bro. After that game, there was no
one in America that could tell me that kid don't
got it because I watched it. Only people that could
say he wasn't good after that is people that just

(01:08:14):
believe everything they read, like, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
That's your point of the Lion's believe on golf. Getting
to the story. I think it was the twenty twenty
two season the Lions to go up to one and
got to the story that had him too.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
He was, so I thought he beach and pretty much
serve God. I look, I know, I know you lose
leaving you you're my die and went on took up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Think the loss of the game that season, yeah, carried over,
you know, the season after we went to the NFC
Championship game.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
The last year they have the yeah, the most wings
of franchise history.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Yeah, I mean that. I mean they're running their division,
They've drafted great, but I mean golf's the motor right now,
no matter how you look at it. Because whether he's
using the porter, not using the porter, using Williams, not

(01:09:28):
using them, using Saint Brown not using them, running the ball,
throwing the ball, I mean he's doing everything to ask
him plus more.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Yeah, and like I said, because he cast a shrimmage,
you know, he showed him who's intelligence and like it's up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
To him to decide.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Like uh, I've seen it, Like you know, Arnible out
of the play they call the running play and it
goes up to twenty yards because he read the defense.
It's like, you know what, I'm not throwing this is
ruined because I know we do some chuck to you.
So just still have the weariness to do. It's quite
the best I'm through.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
I would like to see an alternative universe, like you
know how you could just we might have to do
a good AI program and put this in there and
see what it says. Right, if we could take this
trade back and leave Jared Golf on the Rams, right,

(01:10:29):
keep our first round picks, our third round pick draft
in those drafts, because you know, I got to go
back and we would have to look at who's even
in those drafts, right, and see what our team would
have looked like, how many rings we would have won,
and from the day of that trade to now, I'm
interested what the AI program will come up with. I

(01:10:52):
have a funny feeling there'll probably say two or three.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Here's my question, though, do we keep Brad Holmes because
Bred Holmes was our scout for so many years. He
goes to Detroit becomes the Julie and you've seen why
I'm such a great stuff for the Rams because he's
pretty much heat on every jefte since he took it over.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
I'll tell you like this, we could live without him
because I think that if we keep him, he probably
takes the picks that they got. But I have faith
that Sneider and knock those picks out the park no
matter what it's like when you give Sneid first rounder,
is he don't miss, bro He just he don't miss.
And that's why when there's there's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
The Holmes, Right, that's what I said.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
I get it, I get it. But here's the thing
I think with Sneid has influences, It changes things. I'll
give you what I mean, right, Fisher influence. Fisher really
wanted Robinson, Fisher really wanted Tevon Austin. He got those picks. McVeigh,
you know, well let me before I get to McVeigh.

(01:12:03):
So the same thing with Holmes, they work together, they
you know, they're in synergy with each other. They're making
the same thing with the dude we just let leave
this year, which was the young scout that's been working
with Snead even longer that we just finally let leave
and go somewhere at the end of this year. But
Sneid with McVeigh has been drafting on a different level.

(01:12:26):
And I'm gonna give you what I mean, right, Not
under Fisher, not with the Brad Holmes, not anytime in less.
Sneed's drafting tenure has he hit more than these last
three years. And I'll name some of the names. And
I don't mean first round is is gold now right?

(01:12:49):
I give you it's only first round is both Jared's
they both hit right. We'll throw We'll throw those out
the window for now. These the picks of talk about
in the Fisher. In the Holmes era, we was dealing
with Micah Kaiser's a wrong quos and these are good

(01:13:09):
potential players. I thought the wrong coo would be great,
but we was dealing with those type of players right now,
say sense Holmes left, we're dealing with Kiren in the
fifth round, Pooka in the fifth round. We're dealing with
the people that were hitting now even in the later rounds.

(01:13:32):
It's like people know the rams is hitting in the
fifth round. Nobody was thinking that under Brad Holmes. Nobody
was thinking that with Jeff Fisher. You know, so, let's
need I feel like all these dudes that get in
his ear, including McVeigh sometimes back up, he's the one
that's good at this. Let him just take what he wants.

(01:13:55):
Tell him who you like and who you prefer like
your top priorities. Figure out a way to get him
for you, right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
I listened to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Brad Horns when he came to Cooper Cup. Brad Hounds
when that scouted on him, that Eastern Washington I think
this white receiver, Eastern Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Lady was able to up in the third round.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
You know who else I think was big in that.
I know McVeigh liked him too, But I want to
say one person, and I could this just assumption Steve
Smith was was was telling everybody way before that draft,
Cooper Cupp is the best wide receive in that draft.
Steve Smith, he was from day one. It wasn't even close.
He was telling people, there's only one dog in this draft.

(01:14:42):
There's only one great route running this draft. There's only
one person with great hands in this draft, the white boy,
Cooper Cup. I mean so, I feel like the RAMS
was looking at that that had to be Like Steve
Smith wasn't playing about his about his Cup praise during
that draft. I I literal really had no idea who
Cooper Cup was until I've seen Steve Smith talking.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Washing Eastern Washington University.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Yeah, I didn't know who he was before then. But
I just prefer to let let's cook give me a
list of players. You want and let him cook. That's it.
I mean, do you have any is there any other
trades or anything like that, because I do want to
get into a little bit of boxing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Uh well, let me look it up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Yeah, just talking, but I'm certain thing on my phone
because we could get we could get into this. We
could get into this Jake Paul Chavez Junior fight. I'm
gonna break down the whole card. Did you get to

(01:15:51):
see the boxing match? I didn't see it, Sorry, so
I guess we'll we'll push off on. I'll tell you
like this decent fight. I've seen Chavez Junior fight like
this before where he don't throw many punches. It's not
anything new with him. He's just under underwhelming boxer at

(01:16:12):
this point at the end of his career. I know
he got sober and stuff, so people was expecting a
lot more from him. But if you look at his
last two fights previous to this, they're exactly the same.
He's not throwing punches, he has spurts. I guess the

(01:16:32):
main thing I'll ask you about is because I guess
this is the highlighted discussion, and I'll give you my
point of view and then we'll see yours right, because
this is this is and I'm not going to rant
about this. I don't really care enough about it to
rant about it. But there's the Jake Paul fans, I

(01:16:56):
guess I would say, And then there's the Jake Paul hates.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
We know he's a sanctioned boxer right now, like licened
by the by the Boxing Committee. They're not sanctioned in
fake fighters. They're not ranking fake fighters. And I'm not
saying that he doesn't pick and choose who he fights,
because I do think he's a little bit similar to
the UFC, which is why he picked on them. They're known,

(01:17:25):
and I could give you a hundreds of hundreds of
times and point out a bunch of them. They pick
and choose who their champions fight, and they protect their
fighters all the time. I'll give you a small example.
Chuck Liddell know he couldn't be Rampage, so during his
whole title run he wouldn't fight him. But then when

(01:17:45):
he was ready to retire, he chose to fight him
a couple of times it got knocked out. And while
I tell you that because Rampage knocked him out way
before his title run, So during his whole title run.
When Rampage wanted to work that man, they avoid until
Ladell's was kind of going downhill and was like, all right,
let's do the fight, and they knew it was gonna happen.

(01:18:08):
He knocked his ass out again. So the UFC been
doing that for years. They're avoid all types of fights.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
So I do.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Believe Jake Paul's picked and choes who he fought. Let
me not say that I don't believe, acause I do.
He's also given some of these dudess paydays they never seen,
so there's that aspect. I don't believe he's putting stipulations
in contracts. People are running rapid with this. There's no

(01:18:38):
proof in that. Nobody's ever said that. I'm not going
to get into the juice, and I'm just gonna say,
looking at this fight, I don't think it was rigged.
I think Chavez Junior is a weak fighter. I don't
think Paul at this point is setting up anything other
than guys with deficiencies that he believes he can beat.

(01:18:59):
And it looks like after this win that the Boxing
Committee is actually gonna rank him in the top twenty
cruiseweight boxes, which doesn't necessarily guarantee you a title shot,
but because the payday he can give you, I'm pretty

(01:19:20):
sure someone will throw a title shot out there now.
I want to nip this on the butt now before
this kid's fighting title fights and people are swearing it's
the WW, this is boxing the money or not. There's been,

(01:19:41):
you know, hundreds of times over the years when people
think people take falls and fights, and you know that
that could be subjective. But I'm not going to go
back and forth to people every time Jake Paul fights
about them being rigged fights, because I don't believe they're rigged.
I just believe he's taking people he thinks he or
he knows he can beat. However you want to look

(01:20:02):
at it. Now, my question for you is how do
you feel about these situations? Do you think that these
are full fledged WW boxing matches where people are letting
him clean their clock, where you know, because some of
these dudes he hits so high they might never recover
or later injuries could occur. I line Nate Robinson, who

(01:20:25):
I believe is still looking for you know some you know,
I think he might be looking for a kidney or something.
But I heard he's you should do all right, that's
and that's good. Same thing I heard with Ben Askrin.
Just got needed too new lungs. And I'm not saying
these are dude to Jake Paul, you know, but what
I'm telling you is about people don't sign up. People

(01:20:48):
are people are complaining and over getting hitting football. Nobody
wants to get hit in the face with a glove
like that and go to sleep for three minutes, you know.
So I don't believe nobody signs up for that. But
how were you feeling about these fights? First off?

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
I don't Yeah, I don't. I don't think it's like them.
I don't think this is like wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
But at the same time, like I see why he's
not respecting because I think he's fighting fighters who are either.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Not that good or in the case like Nate rob
he's a that's he's not a fighter.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Yeah, that's that's the one thing though, that's the first fight.
I don't know if my personal opinion, I don't know
if the first three to five fights he really thought
he would ever develop into becoming a box I think
it was more celebrity death matches like Matt type in
the beginning. Yeah, so yeah, those was a little bit
different in my eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
But go ahead and then up with Mike Tyson, like
I feel like watching it, Mike Tyson was trying to be.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Just over sixty, so look like Jack to get easy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Yeah, I I feel like they're the same age of
the twenty seven, twenty eight right, touching him knocking out but.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Texas thirty seconds, Yeah, might touch at sixty. It's a
different fight.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
So I just I just feels he's fighting people that
he knows he can be. He's not going to challenge
himself and fighting like legit fighters. Well, Jit like top four.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
So I think only two of them. I agree with
everything you said. Eleven and ones. That's twelve fights. He
only took two challenge. No, I can't. I'd say four
four because the two Woodley fights. I can't just look
at Woodley like he's described. I just can't. I've seen

(01:22:45):
Woodley mall people like, so I know he got, he
got a little bit to him. I feel like that
was a little risky, right, and he's he got the
closest to knocking Jake paul out. I believe he look
at yeah, but he got, but he got. He's like
an MMA fighter that just got hands. So that's what
he do. He throw hands, and he caught Jake Paul

(01:23:08):
a couple of time. He almost put Jake Paul on
his ass. He knocked him into the ropes. I believe
he got the closest to knocker Jake Paul off his feet.
And then I would give Tommy Fury and Chavis Junior
would be probably my fourth out of them. I would
go Fury the two Woody fights and then Chavis Junior

(01:23:30):
I think was the only fights that threatened him to lose.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Yeah, that's that's who.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Yeah, yeah, and that that's why I said I think
that the first five was probably more novelty.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
It's like, I don't know if when he took that
Nate Robinson fight he thought he would ever really be
a boxer. It was like, I'm boxing a basketball player.
Then it was like I'm a fight three old MMA fighters.
You know, I don't know if. But now it's like Fury, Woodley,
Chavez Jr. And I mean, if you really want to

(01:24:06):
factor in, and he did want the Canelo fight, Canelo
didn't sign the paper, so and Canelo even Logan Paul
kept it real. He said he think Canelo would knock
his brother out, so he was willing to take the risk.
For some reason, Canelo didn't didn't take the payday.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
I don't too much pride to think so, like well,
probably similar.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
He took. He took a more more legit fight he has.
He has a more legit fight. He's going against tom
Oh my god, I can't think of it right now.
Hold on, give me one second. I don't know why
the hell I can't think it is Crawfit. He's going
against Krafft. That's why he turned it down. People wanted

(01:24:54):
to see him fight crawfted nobody. I mean, Jake par
probably would have made him more money and sold out more.
But the boxing world really wants him to this fight.
It's gonna it's gonna be a good fight.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
What is that fight?

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
When is it? Yeah, it's probably coming up in July.
Let me just double check. I know it's in Vegas though.
Oh I'm lying. It's September. September thirteenth, So you got.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
The right. I think that season start.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Yeah, that's the weird that's awkward timing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
I got.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
I guess the one thing I would and I will
get off of the Jake Paul because I know you
need to. I want you to go back and watch
that fight because I need to have I need a
little bit more of your insight on it, like from
the view of watching it. Only know if you if
you think he's developing or getting better at all from
his from whatever the first fight you've seen from him.

(01:25:59):
The The last thing I want to ask you though,
is and we could be brief on this. We've been
running for about an hour and a half, so we
got we got some good footage right now, but what
do you feel about especially after all the controversy this
year with jay Z booking Kendrick for the Super Bowl

(01:26:20):
and I know a lot of people wanted Wayne. We
won't get into feelings on the actual performance or anything
like that, but how how do you feel about jay
Z possibly say, being rumored for next year's Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Well, this season gonna book himself. Yeah, I think I
think him being the hattime show. I think we'll bring
uh viewers. I guess you say for the halftime show
A name sorry name uh?

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
But I know last year a lot of people wanted
to go a little Wayne New Orleans local. Also, remember
when the wool was in Atlanta for the ranch, but
a lot of people pushed up the fit Travis Scott
if I should have been like an outcast or something
like that. This year is to be in San Francisco,
So I don't know. Listen, want to get like fort

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or too short, But yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Probably jay Z, I keep it short and simple. I
don't like it not I'm not, like typically the biggest
jay Z fan in the world to begin with. But
that's not the problem I have with the jay Z
as legendary music. There's a bunch of artists he could
bring out there with him as features, with a bunch
of different people. The problem I have with it is

(01:27:44):
last year when you when you go Kendrick, some of
the reasons for it to not be Lil Wayne was
Kendrick's relevant, Crendrick's young fresh, So how the hell you
got this year? You ain't young, you ain't fresh, and
you ain't relevant.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
He's about the same sort.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Yeah, no, no, no, he's But But what I mean is,
how come last year Lil Wayne wasn't young, fresh or relevant,
but this year you are. You got twenty years on
that man. You ain't been relevant since I don't even
know when. Yeah, I be honest, the only time Jays

(01:28:33):
He's ever been relevant now if you talk about someone
signed to his agency, or if you talk about his wife,
he's just not relevant. Yeah, He's just not It's not
not knocking him. He's one of the goats. But Bro,
you just you super not relevant. I know there's people
running around with that Nas in Jim Jones thing, which

(01:28:54):
is actually pretty hilarious right now, but Nas has always
been relevant, Like jay Z. The last time he was
relevant was when Nas cooked you. That's even jay Z
had a career. Yep, look it, I know you had
to give nads to money.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Brother. That's one of the best distrusts I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Yeah. So, but I'm just a little confused how Lil
Wayne wasn't relevant enough last year when he has an
album coming out, and now you're relevant enough this year. Bro,
nobody wants to hear you know more. As a matter
of fact, I'll be I'll be brutally honest. I want
jay Z to get the hell away from the NFL.

(01:29:39):
I'm not interested, not interested in him trying to mold
it into his form of fashion, because trust me, he's
he's no come on, bro, Like, if you if you
want to, if you want to send someone in there
to give y'all like some essence of hip hop, send
someone in there that loves hip hop, not someone that

(01:30:01):
loves himself. Yeah, that's that's the problem, you know what
I'm saying. So I'm not interested. He could do his
agency thing. I know people ain't. I had a lot
of bold takes today, but I'm feeling bold, so yeah,
that's another one of them. Jay Z just needs to
go back to brook then nobody wants him in the NFL.

(01:30:21):
Like I prefer Taylor Swift over jay Z in the
NFL at least. She just wants to eat up camera
time in the sidelines. He wants to, you know, disrespect people,
you know, pick super Bowl shows, you know, put himself there.
It's like, bro, know, he reminds me of and I

(01:30:41):
use a quick a quick wrestling by Did you watch
the WCW back in the days. Yeah, I do want
a kid, all right. Remember when Vince Russo gave himself
the championship.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
Yeah, one of the one of the things that killed
the cook.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
All right, tell jay Z to chill. Nobody wants to
see you give yourself the belt, Bro, you're not the
best rapper alive. Put the belt down. It's not working.
It's over. You know what I'm saying. We don't want
to see you perform no more. We don't want a
new album come in. Make sure that your shortyes card
next time is going through the crowd. Don't fall on

(01:31:19):
one side like focus on that like you know, we don't.
We don't care about jay Z no more. We just don't,
especially and we'll leave this for the entertainment side, especially
with all the trials. Is that going on right now?

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Come on, man, well.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Right now, Syrus is a fitting favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Talk and I'll gladly take Miley Cyrus over jay Z.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
Gladly honestly have time for me. That's that's that's a
ship bird. So I would never to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Let me let me explain. I ain't watched the halftime
and probably five to ten years. And you know why,
same reason I'm gonna tell you now is how I
you know what? I watched football for foo ball? Yeah,
not for the commercial, not for you showing me the
people in the sideline that are married to the players,

(01:32:21):
Not for you to tell me about shit that has
nothing to do with football, not for you to put
a bunch of stuff on the football stage. And now
I gotta go figure out what I could do for
forty minutes to the football come back. I'm not here
for none of that. So I'm already against halftime performances,
let alone people incertain themselves and halftime performances. You know,

(01:32:45):
it's like, I'm all set.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
I'll wish you you think you think it will be this,
you can go high light party be this year.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Of course, absolutely, she's I mean she's on the field,
she's training with him. Well, she's in the gym when
he's training. Yeah, it's already there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Bro. I thought about it because you know, the Patriots,
they got a team that's not that good. They got
a lot of prime time beings.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
You see. I was wondering, of course, dating stuff on being.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Of course it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna be interesting.
But even at that, like I said, I I get
wrecked on on you know, the crowd stuff. It doesn't
really bother me that that much. For the missions really
pisses me have like's we we don't need a forty
minute in a mission?

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
I agree, And I know what they do with the
casual fans, and that's that's something that uh ironically, that's
something that people complaining about the NBA Finals this year,
like there was no like, no have time performance if they.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Don't be do or they didn't even show the national
anthem celebrities.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
Maybe that's why I like this year better. I know
the finals, that's why I like. But yeah, they make
it too much about about the circus. Bro, isn't like
I don't know, man, y'all are gonna get Like I
feel like the NFL and the NBA feel like if

(01:34:23):
they don't take every dollar, they're gonna lose money. It's
all coming to your bank anyways, it's all coming.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Especially the NBA jers me crazy. But I've just seeing
ads on the courts. It's like I don't want to
see that ship yea, even the email too, Like I
was watching the.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Ads everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
It doesn't make no sense because these sponsors will give
you the money anyways. You don't even gotta do all that,
Like you could literally tell them, like look at y'all
throw setting like setting across the screen for like two seconds.
They're gonna give you the bat, bro, Why do you
need it all over the ring, Like where did the
negotiations start?

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Like I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
I don't get it man, so that like I know,
like sometimes I guess it don't bother me, right because
I guess when you when I'm watching boxing and it's
all over the ring, you don't notice it as much
because they're standing up and they're just throwing hands. When
like you're watching wrestling that first German suplex, you notice

(01:35:26):
like fifteen logo, Like, bro, what's going on here? Shoudn't
even find the wrestler.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
It's like I just draw straight to the yeahgo.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
And it's same to watching basketball too, like you know,
like I don't know, Like it's just like why why
we get like two different ads on the quarter?

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
I'm telling you because they they want every dollar.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Like I watched I go on the internet sometimes I
watching the school basketball like two thousand one or something.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
It's it's like the supports so mean, just.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
Got the NBA Finals logo have a commercial here in
there where they promote like Jiffy Lou but saying it's
that you ain't getting the court. You got the commercial,
you know what I mean, Like that's all you need.
You know, you don't need the court, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Uh, like thirty years I said one of these stuff
out of business. But you're watching You're watching the NBA
finals thirty years from now.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
You're like, who, you know what we gotta you know
what we gotta do, Bro, I was gonna do it
the other day. I was just gonna do it for
for ships and giggles. We gotta do a watch alone, right,
I'm damn old school game finals. We'll watching all the

(01:36:51):
games Sonics Sonics.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Oh you guys say son I will say to have
people vote on it on X or something, but you
said bulls.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Nope, because we'll start with bows because I want to
watch it, and then we'll let After that, we'll ask
them what's the next series or the next thing you
want us to watch?

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Okay, what's your game from that series?

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
So we're gonna watch that from game one. Yep, we're
gonna watch the whole series. Unfortunately it didn't make it
the game seven, but yeah, we go watch the whole series.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
I'm much interested to watch a team because I don't
think I've seen it since.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
I was like eight or nine years old.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Bro, that's one of the best I started watching game
It wasn't even Game one it might have been Game six.
I just came across it and I was like, yo,
bro Peyton was just the man then, bro, Yo, they
were just on another level. They was missing just I
know that lives Shrimp that has some players, but they

(01:37:55):
was literally like one player away from being able to
take out that the the most dominant person in NBA history.
Then there was literally one player away. They just just
couldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Jordan was, I feel so bad for when Oklahoma City
won the championship last week. Everybody's somebody like, oh, this
is the Thunder the second championship. It was the first
championship since seventy nine. That's that's that's the Sonics Championship.
They don't but they don't count.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
They don't with Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Said it the other day, he said, I forgot what
he said he said. I think he said Mark. I
think it was maybe an a W said that Marxy
has been holding the Belt hostage the way the Thunder
been holding the SuperSonics hostage. Yo. No, Yo, I don't
know how you decided to get rid of a franchise

(01:38:54):
and that was the one. It's like that this should
have been like eight teams. That was untouchable and the
Sonics was one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
Yeah, like you move into Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Yeah, I don't know, Bro, can't you can't. You can't
make this ship up. Bro, that's what money would do.
We're ruined a whole good franchise and turning in obscurity
till thirty years later.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
But you move the team. But you want to claim
their championships.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. You ain't getting the championship. Nah. Yo,
Sonics are coming back and they starting off with one.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
You could come in give them a spyin title bit.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
Yeah, they coming in with one championship, just losing a
lot of time in between. That's it. But all right, Well,
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Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
I just dropped a little quickly this morning. Well today
I say, I don't know what you listen to it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
So Yetta, check that out so quick, right, seventeen million
podcasts that you did, and uh yeah, let's see.

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