NFL Holdouts/Kyren Williams New Contract & AFC North breakdown

We breakdown the NBA.com power rankings. We talking about the contract drama involving Micah Parsons, Terry McLaurin and Trey Hendrickson. Also, Kyren Williams got a new deal! How does that affect the LA Rams? and how does it affect James Cook contract situation? Plus, we talking about Disney's new partnerships with the NFL and WWE

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:17):
What's up, everybody? Welcome the micing it. I'm Mob miss
This is my other co host, inspector in. How you doing, bro,
what's good everybody?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm doing all right. Let's good with you.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Same old, same old. It's been a while. It's been
a while. I feel like it's been. Like you said,
you gotta get back to being consistent for sure. For sure,
we got to get back to a time schedule for sure.
But other than that, I guess we'll dive right in.
We got a little bit of NBA news, a little

(00:50):
bit of NFL news. We also got some Disney wrestling
and NFL news, but I guess we'll start with that
with the NBA. So that the Celtics have extended coach Missoula,
did you say anything about that.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I did not hear about that.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
About my surprise, I mean, he did, uh lead into
a championship two years ago now, and no, they they
were the favorite winner last year. Unfortunately didn't work out
for him. They lost, they got knocked out in the
second round. But yeah, I'm not surprised that he got
an extension.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, I'm trying to see if I could get the
exact details. I don't I don't see them up. It
looks like a three year deal.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm just to look it up.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, if you if you find the full details on that,
let me know, definitely run those off. I also want
to run through these. Did you get to see the
NBA Power rankings?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes? I saw that.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
All right, Well let's take a let's go through this
and you let me know what you're thinking. Feel free
to stop me at any time you need to. Will
let me get through it and you could run from there.
But if you need to stop me, feel free to
let me know. So number one, I mean, I don't
think there's any surprise. Obviously, they're the champs. So we

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got OKC at one, and they had the best record
in the NBA last year with the MVP and won
the finals. I mean, clean sweep for them, so I
think they deserved one.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Number two.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
They got the Denver Nuggets up three from last week,
so they got them at two.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I'm surprised by the Nuthers to being number two. They
still don't have a coach here.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Fair to say, fair to say number three, this is
probably definitely gonna surprise you. Then the Houston Rockets up
five from last week.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I'm not surprised by that because everybody thinks Houston is
going to the finals. That Attiquidine Durant, even though I'm
not sure if Durant's the misspiece or not take him
over the top. But we'll see.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I guess we will see on that number four down
to from last week, the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
So far, all the top fourteens, all the Western Conference.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, the Nuggets one, I guess I can look at.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Eventually, they'll get a coach.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Right now, I'd say I've seen what what Edwards did
the KD and the playoffs. I'm not looking at the
Rockets like they deserve to be above the tim Wolves
right now. I think I think the tim Wolves will
run through them in a series just as easy as
they did with Kevin Durant last year. And I think
he arguably had a better team last year.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Phoenix.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, so you.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Couldn't beat You couldn't beat Edwards with Phoenix, But you
mean to tell me you're gonna beat him with Houston.
I'm not buying what they selling there. No way put
some respect on Edward's name. Now, you know they deserve
to be top three. I think number five this is
the biggest jump so far. They're up six from last week.

(04:09):
We got the La Clippers, which we.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Talked about this.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
We talked about this last week because they they signed
those big names that Chris Paul and Bradley Beal, brook Lopez.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, and brook Lopez too, but also let me talked
about last week.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I understand the hype that they're getting right now, but
at the same time, like all them, all them, all
of them are old.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
So like if this is twenty.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Fifteen, I'll be on board, Like, yeah, Clippers got a shot,
but five I don't.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I don't see what.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I guess, Well, answer me this because I mean even
if they do have a lot of a lot of depth,
which is old at this point, but they do got
a lot of pieces.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Everybody's over thirty five.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, with that being said, I mean seven game series.
You think the Rockets that are better than him? With
Kevin Durant.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Honestly, my question for the Rockets isn't so much Kevin Durant,
is those young pieces that they had.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Ys.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I
don't know how they're gonna handle like a pressure situation.
As far as the Clippers, Like, yeah, I know they
can handle pressure situations because all of them have been
there before. My question is at their age, you know,
can they hold up. Yeah, everybody thinks that they could
be Tom Brady or lebron and play to their forties.

(05:38):
You know, And as we talked about with Kevin Durant,
you know, whenever he sung with Houston, you know, father
Town's undefeated and Father Time it's everybody Differently, we talked about,
you know, Peyton Manning his like, you know, his his
second to last year, I think he threw like fifty
touchdowns and fifty five touchdowns and then that next year

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he got bench for Broncos, right, like it could hits fast,
and even in that Super Bowl, even though they wasn't
the Super Bowl that year, like he couldn't even throw
the ball five yours.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
He took a struggle for him.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
So we just don't know where Time's can hit these players,
And like, yeah, it might sound good on paper, but
you still got to look at the fact that they're
all over thirty five.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
But yeah, now, the reason why I ask I don't
trust the clip is to make no finals or even
make an attempt to win the finals with this team,
but I would just say in a seven game series,
once again, I trust them more than the Rockets. I
at least know what I'm getting there. Yeah, that's like,
I don't think Kevin Durant. I'm just because I just

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looked at the Rockets roster just to make sure I'm
not forgetting somebody. I mean, I see a lot of potential,
but it could also add an l y to that
and be potentially nothing.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Exactly because another thing we haven't talked.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
About too is that their best player from last year
was traded to Phoenix for Kevin Durant.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
They don't even have.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, Phoenix would be better than them next year, I think,
in my opinion, even even on rebuild.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, she got divin Booker.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Like, book is one of those dudes that'll go give
you fifty so you you give them some pieces. I
think sometimes I think that he wasn't super a young
superstar putting old superstars around and just slowed him down.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
I think they realized that.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
So I think Booker have them looking real good this year,
especially with with more younger pieces around and versus older pieces.
They I mean probably didn't don't need to completely blow
it up, and there probably could have kept a few guys,
you know.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
But yeah, it's still blows my mind that Stevens in
the finals more years ago and they blew up that
whole entire team just didn't get KD and Bradley Beal.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, and that's kind of like what I'm looking at
the Rockets as now. I mean, I but the Rockets
just don't have the team Phoenix had to, Like I
got it, like Phoenix thought they was bringing in an
All Star team. I'm looking at the Rockets and it's like,
you definitely don't got an All Star team, y'all. Hold, yeah,

(08:23):
you're open a few of these young guys become All Stars,
and you're bringing an agent veteran at at a costly price.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
That's why I thought KD.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
I was hoping Minnesota the turdle Minnesota go went through
because I felt like Minnesota adding KD, we'll put them
over the top because their team that the last two years,
they've been close and they just they.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Just need one more piece to kind of break through.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Because I think the problem with Minnesota is your second
best player can't be no Rudy Gobert, you know, you
need somebody else. You still on the other hand, like, yeah,
they're young and up and coming team, but I don't
think it's about adding kds will put them over the top.
Because if you said, we don't know what we're gonna
get in in the playoffs with the young kids.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, I personally I wanted to see him go to
San Antonio because I just think the dynamic there would
it's like perfect him, Like if you have point guard
him and then Wemby, you know what I'm saying, it's
like now in between that.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
They have a point guard. They just signed the Deer
and Fox.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
This is what I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
So if you just feel the pieces in between that
little bit, that's that's a championship roster, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Because the way it's constructed.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I think the way that some of these teams fall
apart is you have three two or three guys that
are all either ball dominant or similar style players, so
they're not really flourishing. Like if you have a point guard,
a center, and then like a small forward, power forward
type guy, it's more it's more laid out, it's more,

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you know, and then a decent power forward and a
good three point shooter as shooting guy is a championship roster,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Like my only question, but said, tell you just a coach,
because no pop from retired, so we don't know where
we're gonna get from the coach.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
He's a he's an unproven coach, even though it might work.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Out when people say the same thing about Missoula and
Boston and you want him a championship.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, I just think that they're one of those organizations.
They got a good culture. I think they'll be fine,
you know. And that's that's why I think KD would
have worked over there. Houston has doesn't have a good culture.
You're gonna go over there a couple of bad situations,
discovery a problem, but hey, I digress.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
We'll see how it goes and.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
See how he handles dealing with these young cats.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Is Ka's gonna be like these ten fifteen years older
than everybody for sure?

Speaker 4 (10:57):
For sure?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well I put it like this off of off of
you know, Mrking market KD number six, and we're gonna
we're gonna deep dive a little bit more into this
after But we have the excuse me, you have the
Lakers up seven from last week, the biggest jump so

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far to number six.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
What are you thinking about that?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I like the moves that made Ada, DeAndre Ayton, Marcus smart.
They signed Luca long term.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
The older question for them is just Lebron.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
There's still rumors out here in l A that the
Lakers might trade them.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
M hm, So I mean that's that's the only question mark.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
But other than that, I mean the Lakers have made
a lot of great moves in all season.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, I think they may.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
I think they still need to trade Reeves and bring
in another big but that's just.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I don't I don't understand why they're they're not thinking
about trading Reeves when he turned down a contract this offseason.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
And they the go ahead, I was gonna say, and
they signed.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I'm I'm not sure exactly how the pronounced name, but
the kid, Jake Laravia or La Rabia, he's I mean,
he's not Austin Reeves, but he's similar to Austin Reeves.
So I mean he doesn't want to take a contract.
It's time to send him.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Right because I think Austin Reeves he's probably this agent's
probably telling like, look, just play off this last year
in your contract, go into free agency and you might
make more money. So if I'm the Lakers, like, okay,
if you want to be a free agent, that's cool,
but I'm going to least try to get something for
him in return. Yeah, maybe maybe you go trade into
a playoff team that all their missing is like a

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three point shooter or something like that.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, I think I think you should strike when the
iron is hot and try to get a Personally, I
think that you want to bring in a power forward,
but if you could bring in just like a swingman
shoot that could play defense, that that'll work too, depending
on who you could bring in. But I think it's
def maybe even go younger, try to bring in somebody,

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like somebody with potential and get a get a good
draft pick or something like. You gotta you gotta make
a move though. That's my personal opinion. Coming in at
number seven, we got the Golden State Warriors. You have
any thoughts on the Warriors being at seven.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
They're only in the top tier because they still got uh,
Steph Curry. Other than that, the Warriors haven't really made
any moves, So I don't. Yeah, I don't see why
they're They've been top.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Ten, yeah, and struggling with this kaminga situation. I agree
that they're not.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I don't even he wants us.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
He wants his money and deserving you.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
So yeah, I mean it's crazy they don't want to
pay him that money. But then they told teams if
they want to trade from they want multiple first round picks.
So he's not worth the money, but you want multiple
first So is he worth the money? Is he not
worth the money? Because if he's not listen, if he's
not worth the money, he's not worth multiple first round picks.
You're kind of putting your hand on the table in

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saying Israel.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
But they fucked themselves over because remember in the playoffs,
they weren't even playing him until Steph Curry got hurt.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
So I think other teams look at.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Okay, you want you want us to give you multiple
first round picks for this guy that you don't even
want to play. Yeah, get paid, but you don't want
to play. But yeah, you want us to give up
multiple first round picks.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, this is making a sense.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, I completely agree. I think they should be a
little bit lower up ten. From last week. The Dallas Mavericks.
Obviously we know they got the number one pick Cooper Flag.
They also brought in D'Angelo Russell. They're probably deserving of

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this rank and any doubts on them.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, Dallas is interesting because you look at their team
on paper. I know Kyrie has heard, but I mean
he do bring in Dangel Russell who can hold down
before until Kyrie comes back, and then he just bring
Dandrew Russell off the bench. And also too, Deandrew Russell
has a chemistry with a d from playing.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
In LA with each other.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
And also you got Craig Thompson who's still one of
the best three point shooters in the league, even though
defensively is.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Not what he once was used to be able to
guide anyone.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, but I think age and all the knee injuries
that he had just slowed him down. But he's still
I mean, maybe maybe make the Stanley can help him
get that defense back. But you know, so I think
on paper, I think the Dallas Mavericks could make some
noise this year. I think it all depends on Cooper Flags.

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Is he the A is that generational talent that everybody
says he is he's real good, but I get let
me just say one critique. Did you watch any of
his games?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I watched him in the tournament and I thought he
was okay.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I mean, he's a good player, but I can't see
like generational generational. I'm thinking like Michael Jordan or Lebron.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
He has a problem that Luca has once in a
while where it's like, for some reason he don't see
nobody and he'll just dribble himself in circles and they'll
just keep dribbling, and he'll keep dribbling and they'll keep
dribbling like no one else is on the court. And
I've seen him do it a couple of times. It's like,
look it, you can't have the ball dribbling for fifteen

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twenty seconds like so he Mellow was used to do
this the beginning of his career too.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
It drives me insane.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's like, look it, Once you get trapped or you're cornered,
there's four other guys out there. One of them's open.
There's usually one of them coming to the ball to
help you. If you can't drible lot of saying, don't
try to drible lot of it, and then take a
terrible shot or you know, terrible skyhook from It's like,
come on, bro Well.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I think though, I think Jason Kid thought that let
him puts in watch him in the tournament. In college,
he played a lot of point guard even though he's sixteen.
I think Jase Kids gonn a power forward or center.
And I think you know, either Kyrie when he gets bad,
or D'Angel Russell, they're going to be the primary ball handlers.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't think he's gonna handle the ball that much.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh no, I don't believe he's He's dribbling the ball up.
I'm just saying, and just in general, when somebody has
the ball in their hands and they're so focused on
making a move by themselves that they just don't give
the ball up. And I just seen him do it
a few times, Like go back and watch that tournament. Well,
it's like he's.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Gonna have to play with CLAYT. Thompson.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
He's got to give that ball up because Cleve Thompson
just needs a little bit of space and he's open.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, I'm obviously sure. It's a big difference between the
guys he was playing with then and when he's actually
in there with you know a d and Clay I'm
you know, it's a little bit different, But I'm just.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
A all those guys he's playing with, all the guy
drafted in the top ten.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
I know, but I'm just thinking about ball movement. It's like,
when you got that type of team, that's what you're
gonna need. You got the shooter, you got the guy
down low. I don't want to see nobody feeling it.
And don't get me wrong, it's kind of one of
the things Luca would do over there.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Sometimes.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
It's like you just start dribbling around, like you need
this shot so bad, You're gonna dribble to you get
any inch to get in here, and you could throw
up any type of shot. It's like, bro, just give
the ball up.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Well, if your Dallas, though, do you let him come
along slowly and just like you know, play and let
you know, Anthony Davis and Creatops be the two best players,
or do you just righting the get go go. Okay,
we got this generational talent, let's nick him the point
of our offense.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
That's my thing. You gotta I'd rather bring him along slow.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
You already have guys there, you know, so it's like,
let him, get in, get his feet wet, let him know. Like,
you little bro, you know what I'm saying. A couple
of years you got this, you know what I'm saying.
But right now, you little bro, you know what I'm saying.
That's why I get it. It's, you know, just summer
basketball and stuff. He not really, these ain't real games.
But at the same time, it's like, yo, it just

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grinds my gears. It's like I don't like seeing that.
It's like, just give there's somebody standing open somewhere. That's
why there's two three guys on you just find the
open guy, get rid of the ball.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
But that's my rant.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Now a six tens he should have no trouble seeing
over anybody.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, that what I'm saying is it ain't even about
not seeing them. It's about you just don't want to
give the ball up. You know, we used to call
them kind of guys ball hogs back in my day
or huns. What I'm saying they not giving the ball up.
What I'm saying, he don't see you what he do.
But at number nine, actually, let me make sure yet

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the eight at number nine, which dropped saying dropped eight
from last week.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
I don't know how they was that high. But the
Memphis Grizzlies, and he thought.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
They're an interesting team too.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
They they're in the same situation as Denver, where for
some reason they fired their coach the week before the
playoffs season started.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
I mean they didn't really make Their biggest move was
they traded away Desmond Dang which move.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, I didn't like that.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
I thought it was a great trip for Orlando. Yeah,
I didn't understand the trip for Memphis. And then the
new coach, I don't know too much about him. They
didn't they were the eighth. They were the eighth seed
last year. I could be in the A seed again
this year. Again, nothing on the first went.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, they didn't bring in anything that moves the needle.
Caldwell Pope, he is.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Well, yeah, those are that's they got that from the
dismal Bean tride.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's hi. Jerome Cedric Coward like decent. But they didn't.
They just didn't really bring in anything that's going to
move the needle. Number ten, we got the San Antonio Spurs.
Number let's see eleven, Portland Trailblazers, Number twelve, Sacramento Kings

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didn't really do too much. Number thirteen the Phoenix Suns.
They I mean they they brought in some good stuff.
They got some picks, They got Dylan Brooks, Jalen Green,
They I mean they did I And I know it
seems weird to say that when they lost Bail and Rant,

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but they got younger, they got picks, and their styles
should have been Bradley excuse me, should have been Devin
Booker from the start, because I feel like them bringing
all these things around him didn't really help him.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
So well, yeah, they're they're they're the perfect case of
if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yeah, their team
wasn't broke. They made it to the finals. So I
don't understand why they decided to make these drastic changes
where it didn't need to be. They could have kept
that team together for at least another three another three

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years and three or four years and see didn't get
back to the finals.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, I agree, bro, you just can't. I don't know
what sometimes with these people be thinking. We have fourteen
the New Orleans Pelicans. They they got some young pieces,
they lost CJ.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
McCollum. Obviously not really much there though.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, everybody keep holding on hoping about Zon. But I mean,
at this point, you know, sixty six years in the league,
he is what he is.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I mean, to me, he's just a bust.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
They keep holding on hope that he's going to become
what everybody says they thought he was gonna be.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
I'm gonna say a few things that I was saying
way before he got to the NBA, and it's all
held true, right, and these ain't there's a few of
these is not his problem. But the only way to
get out of this he would have had to do himself,
and you would have had to work three times harder

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than everybody else. And I didn't see that in it.
I think he was a genetic freak. Typically, outside of Lebron,
the ones that are the most you know, naturally going
it ain't really working that hard because they're just typically
better than everybody else.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
So this year because his biggest the biggest knock on
him even when he was in college was his weight.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah no, but he doesn't let me get into this.
This is what I noticed that I didn't. This is
what I was going to say. My point right when
he was all right and This isn't man weight I'm
talking about. He was just kept getting bigger and bigger
while he's young. This is uncontrollable weight. Right when I

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seen him try to stop on the court and his
foot busted out of his sneakers, I was like, oh,
this is gonna be a problem because I ain't never
seen that before in my life. Not nobody didn't think
about all the big players that came before him.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
That led me to believe that it's like, all right,
he's growing uncontrollably. Like he just blew out of his sneakers.
Right then, you hear he didn't have a crazy work ethic.
I was like, oh, yeah, he's done. Let me tell
you why, because you knew that. It's like Sean Kemp
when the NBA went on strike.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Oh yeah, he came back all you big as hell.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
And you remember you remember how but you remember Sean
Kemp before that, right?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, ye in Seattle and they chewed him to Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Or working hard with Peyton and all that. But then
guess what happened when the strike goes on. He was
just natural boom, he blew up. Seattle said, WHOA sent
him to Cleveland? Right? We was like, why they trade
Sean Kemp. Well, we've seen him in Cleveland by the
traded Sean Kemp, Right, so this is all of telling it.

(25:28):
And like Sean Camp and Gary Payton. You remember I
told you growing up, I was actually a supersonic span
until they left, right. He just reminded me of Sean Kemp,
but just was way bigger than Seawann Kemp too early,
you know, like Sean Kemp blew up later, like he
got into the NBA, wasn't as big, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, yeah, that was like Sean Kimp's like tenth eleventh
league at that point.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
He was like similar to like Shaq. Shaq could control
He controlled it all through college for the most part,
in the beginning of his creat or land, and then
it got to a point where, you know he's older now,
it was getting a little uncontrollable. Zion was having those
uncontrollable problems early yeah eighteen. Yeah, So what I'm telling

(26:12):
you about is like he was just like a baby
shack waiting to blossom. So if he wasn't working like
five times, it's hard to keep that weight off. You know,
there was gonna be all types of injuries. Is like
just gonna go through, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Because I remember when he was like coming that. I
remember when he was in college. Like his player calm
was Charles Barkley. But it's like when I watched an
old Clifton Charles Barkley from the Sixers and the sum
Charles Barkley was.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Never that big, no way, And he might be that
big now that he's older.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
But back in the day his career, yes, not not
like even seven, eight, nine years in the league, Charles
Barkley was still dunking with two hands. Wasn't like that
Charles Barkley you've seen later in life, you know, it's
kind of like George Foreman. You've seen him. Go watch
George Foreman before before he started making the grills. You know,

(27:02):
I so Judge Foreman back in the day's boy, you
wouldn't even think he was the same man that you've
seen later. You get older and it happens, you know,
But when when you're going through that early and this
ain't about being big. This is about you being because
you could be big, healthy and all that. Right. It's

(27:22):
about him wanting to be in the n b A
and not being able to control his weight. It's a
big problem. It's what they what they killing Luca for sometimes, right,
But Lucas at least made it a few years before
he started getting that problem like Zion just came in with.
It's just been a problem from the beginning. The injury

(27:44):
has been a problem. You could kind of say, there's
been a little bit of problems between maybe family and
the organization.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
His personal not getting sued by that that point star
who claims that she's his baby mama.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, there might have been a few more of those
other ones too, with Instagram girls that that flew over
there that I've seen about him. But I'm not going
to dive in because I don't know them one hundred
percent for sure, but I think I might have seen
more than one pop up with a similar story.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, but I'm just saying that that has to like
mess age you mentally too.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
So all I'm saying is he's just I guess there's
the question are you giving would you have given him
or give him a max contract?

Speaker 2 (28:33):
No?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
And when New Orleans gaping the max contract, I didn't
understand it because what has he done to deserve the
max contract? They they're basically paying him for his potential
but six years into the league, you still haven't seen
that potential fruition. But he's still having the same problem
now in your sticks that he had his freshman year
of college, which you can't control his weight, and since

(28:56):
he's been in the league, he can't stay healthy.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
You want to the not to cut you off.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
I apologize, bro, But the one to say this is, though,
let me make sure I clarify one thing, because I'm
not just throwing right left hooks at Zion. I think
Zion has still right now potential to be one of
the best players in the league. Still right now, potential
to be great. You know, this is an organizational problem,

(29:25):
right And I say this to say this, Look at Luca,
He's at the way they want right. Everything's good. Not
knocking the Mavericks, you see what I'm saying. But some
of these.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Teams like.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
And maybe once in a while players that get away
with it that won't be there long, you know. But
when you're talking about like great organizations, and this is
where sometimes the organization feels the player. If Zion was
to go to the Lakers right now, they'll get him
in shape. He'd probably have a great his career with
stot going upwards. You know, if they get him on

(30:04):
the spurs, same thing. There's you know, there's like a
handful of more teams where it's just they'll make sure
he would have got everything he needed, Like he obviously
needs a personal trainer, a nutritionist, personal chef. This is
all stuff you need to watch with him, you know.
And you also got to be careful because he's getting

(30:26):
reoccurring injuries, so they're just there's no way you can
be doing all of that. And it's just the same
things are going on, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
All his injuries and lower bodies, his knees, his legs.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
He's carrying too much weight. He's also it's also grown,
it's still growing. That's the crazy part. He's like, yes,
twenty five and this is what I'm trying to tell you.
So he he's one of the I couldn't imagine trying
to keep off weight while it's coming like that.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
It's coming.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
He's probably was gaining weight by the hour when he
was eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
One years old.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Right now, if you don't have somebody making sure they're
feeding you right, making sure you're training right, just you know,
watching certain things.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
This is gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Bro, and you and you look at you look at
the Pelicans, and I could tell you, hands down part
of the reasons that AD's f illness.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Mightn't want to look over there, because.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
That's just a good point because like Ad when he
was Repelicans, he could never stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
And then and it ling link it on too late
in his career where little things that we're looking at
is like, how'd you get hurt?

Speaker 2 (31:41):
You?

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Obviously he's not soft. Look at the dude's like seven
feet tall, bro, you know what I'm saying. So things
that we're seeing as like that shouldn't injure you. These
is certain things in his body. I don't think just
ever got up the power fully and that's organizational failures.
I think if he was on Lakers, the Lakers is
whole Korea, I doubt you would see him get injured

(32:03):
like that the way he's and obviously he's not there
no more. But just saying in general, if he was
on the Lakers for a whole career, I don't think
we would have seen as many injuries with him as
we did as as a Laker.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
You know, Yeah, Michael Seft and Zion goes like, if
you have these problems at eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one
years old, what's gonna happen when he hits thirty?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
And that's why, and that's why he needs personal trainers,
maybe four or five different personal trainers, nutritionness, he needs,
he needs to what he needs to do is he
needs to be.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
A master and knowing his body. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
So once it's like Lebron James, I'm sure think like this,
if Zion could go live with Lebron James for three months,
he probably changed that man's life.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
So yeah, because Lebron's obviously always been big, you know,
not even just from like a big standpoint as far
as muscle, but just like six'. Eight you, know he's
probably the, closest one of the closest things To zion
when they was probably seventeen. Eighteen so there's a point
where you started Seeing lebron get way bigger in THE, nba,

(33:17):
Right but he maximized that weight where we never really
seen him slow, down didn't see his jumping. Decrease we
didn't you, know he never got like. Sloppy he just got,
bigger you know What i'm. Saying so If zion was
on the Regimen lebron was, on he wouldn't have a weight.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Problem but here's the.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Thing can you can you mimic the work Ethic lebron
has IF i had to guess right, now IF i
was a betting, man right AND i had all my
life savings in front of, me and the same As
Jaed versu And Aaron, donald we Sent Lebron.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
James In.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Zion in the. Gym right, Now Lebron james is, forty Right.
ZION i couldn't in good faith put my money On.
Zion lebron will outwork the ship out of him right
now at forty years.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Old that's the.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Problem, YEAH i think work ethic is one of those
things where you either you got it or you.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Don't and you said it perfectly like he was just
one of those kids that grown up he was just
better than everybody, else so he didn't have to work. Hard,
now being in THE, nba you actually got a work
card because everybody is on the same, level, really and
so you can't be three point fifty playing eighty two

(34:40):
games in the season.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Like you're gonna get hurt, Yeah i'm he.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Got away with it in high school and, college but
he's not getting away with it in THE.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Nba AND i think he got away with it there
because the weight didn't come. Yet you know What i'm. Saying,
now he's real good lobster shrimp, steaks you know What i'm,
saying he should be in The organs look easy and real, good,
Right and it's soul food, everywhere, right easy and real,
good right and. That and he can't stop the, weight

(35:09):
you see What i'm. Saying so when he was a
little bit, younger you it just it was a little bit,
different a little bit. Easier, NOW i think he could
dominate the N. B a you can't. Dominate your lifestyle
is the, problem you know What i'm. Saying, like it's
the if you if you could win with the weight
problem and get to the whatever is the comfortable weight

(35:31):
they're saying you should be at or you feel you
should be, at and you could masters staying at that.
WEIGHT i don't think he'd have a problem in THE.
Nba it's the other stuff he's having a problem, with
which is causing the.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
INJURIES i, think, yeah he has to do something.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
BAD i agree with, YOU i, think, Uh New orleans
has to do something as.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Well, YEAH i mean they got. It you gotta gotta watch,
him some. People AND i don't want to say this
in a in like a you, know any type of shaming,
way Because i'm hungry twenty four hours a, day LIKE
i got a tape run in my. Stomach but if
he knows he got a dump, saying they're gonna have
to put him, on they're gonna. Watch you gotta watch

(36:14):
what he's. Eating you know What i'm. Saying it's like
you've seen the dude on the, bucks, right.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Who's GOING i guess all the talking about the tip for, yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Exactly working his ass off to make, weight AND i respect,
it you know What i'm.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Saying, yeah he's the heaviest player ever.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Drafting, yeah heaviest player that EVER i think put on.
PADS i think he's real young. Too he was like four, fifty,
right so.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
They, YEAH i, think, yeah he's, like, UH i think
last year in college you see the heavier than.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
That, YEAH i think he was at like five and
they want him to be at like under four, hundred.
Right but bottom line is that's that's what it comes down.
To that have a performance where they want you to
be at a certain. Weight you just need to be
at that, weight so whatever you gotta. DO i see
him out there running. Around he had the stuff over

(37:09):
to lose. Weight he's running in The tampa. Heat i'm
proud of that, brother.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
MAN i said, This it's gonna be hard to run
the ball Against tampa with him and be the day
of the New.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Hell, Yeah i'm rooting for that. Kid i'm rooting for
that kid big, time.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
And me, too unfortunately plays in THE, nfc, though.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
It's i'm still rooting, fan not against The, rams but
any other. Time and the last team that came in at,
FIFTEEN i just throw it out there week and kind
of Just detroy a little bit is The Utah. Jazz
they made a few, moves nothing too. Serious they did.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Well Their their biggest move, though was Drafting Ace.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Bailey Ace bailey was a player that a lot of
people said coming into the draft was by far the
second best player in the, draft right Behind Cooper.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Flag the reason why he drops five is because of
all the stuff that happened with his.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Agent you, know his agent said my, CLIENTS i could
play for this team that team and one of the
teams the, Agent yeah we.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Did, yeah but one of.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
The teams that agent said that he wasn't gonna play
for Was, utah And utah is, like we don't give
him for we drafted him. Anyway, yeah but they finally
damn in you to him In. Utah they finally worked it.
Out so he reported he's not something For Utah. Jazz
but maybe the reason Why utah is in the top
five teams because they think this kid's the real. Deal

(38:34):
and maybe he CAN i don't think you talk will
be a playoff, team but maybe he can Make utah
like exciting again because they haven't had really had any
excitement really since Uh carvelon And John.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Stockton jesus is it's it's been a. While it's well
they they you ain't gonna Get Donevan mitchell No, LOVE i.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Mean, yeah BUT i mean they couldn't even get past
the first. Rounder BUT i had a.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Little, Excitement it's All i'm.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Saying yeah him and, Again Rudy gorbers just display fair to.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Say, WELL i Guess i'll asked you one LAST nba question.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
And we'll get to some other.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Stuff do you think The lakers did enough this year
to actually compete.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
For a.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
RING i THINK i think they did enough TO i
think they did enough to compete because they were number
three in The west last. YEAR i still think they're
the top five team in The Western.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Conference BUT i don't know if they've god enough to
like Surpass Oklahoma city Or minnesota or Even.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Denver to that, POINT.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
I respect that.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Second, yeah, Yeah i'd agree with everything you. Said i'd
say the one thing that comes down for, me If
ayton can't even hit close to his, POTENTIAL i think
The lakers could be real. Good the problem is he's

(40:08):
never been able to hit his potential Yet he's had,
spurts so obviously this comes down to Keeping. Lebron i'll
just say team right, now with nothing else to add.
IT i think that They the only way they would
actually have a chance to win a ring is If
DeAndre ayden is like a twenty twelve guy this.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Year and to see WHAT i.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
DON'T i.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
DON'T i don't know if they Need DeAndre aiden the.
OFFENSIVE i Think DeAndre aiden's there is. Defensively but we
talked about this during the playoffs when they played The Minnesota.
No Rudy gobert is you can want to Keep roger against.
Them because they had no, Bigs rudy Go bear was
able to. Dominate SO i Think DeAndre ayden he's there
to not only you, know make sure That Rudy gobert

(40:52):
doesn't dominated. Again you look at the other teams in The.
West let the joker you, GOT i, mean check. Good
he's he's, skinny he's nothing LIKE whoa eat you down,
Physically BUT i think that's what he's there for to
play this Big.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
The reason WHY i tell you he needs, that he
needs to and these could be twenty points of. Dunks
the reason WHY i say this is it's not just
about covering those, bigs it's about working. Them so that's
that's my thing it. All It, also this is something
that frees up the three, points you, know the three point.
Nine SO i just think that IF a and can

(41:32):
wear down some of these big guys would be the
way that they have a chance to win a. Ring
SO i just, you you gotta he gotta put some muscle,
down low dunk on, somebody get some easy, buckets is
All i'm.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Saying his career is his career, high which is the Year,
phoenix once of the finals was fourteen to.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Ten, yeah so he needs to be you're saying he
needs to be better than.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
That, yes What i'm telling you is that The Lebron
james to get you an extra six points easily If luca.
Don't so What i'm saying is If lebron And lucas
giving you ten points, free WHICH i believe they can
give you just driving to the lane and throwing the
ball out, right you should be able to get twenty.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Points that's eighteen and twelve is.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Doable eighteen TWELVE a couple, assistant a blocker game would.
Do you know What i'm. Saying but he's going to
have to be special for them to win a championship
in fourteen and.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Ten isn't special to?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Me like if you told me that when they drafted
eight and that would be his best, SEASON i tell
you he's a. Bust like you just should argue.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
He is to argue that this has been a bus
especially when you look at that. Draft phoenix passed On
luca and Tre young and drafted.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Eight so understand What i'm trying to tell. You what
he was supposed to. Be The lakers need him to
be the guy he was drafted to be so eighteen
nineteen twenty has got to be that amount of points
rebound's got to be ten, eleven. Twelve we need a
block of game, minimum you know What i'm, Saying like

(43:14):
he needs to Be but LIKE i, said even even Just,
LUCA i think can get this guy so many easy
buckets by just driving to the. Lane SO i don't
think twenty points for him should be. Hard put a
couple of, putbacks then a couple of rebounds Yourbi but
if you ain't busting your ass like, that The lakers
have no.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
SHOT i.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
AGREE i agree with, you just this.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Year, anyways he needs A he also needs, to LIKE i,
said wear Down, joker wear down some of these other.
Guys other than, THAT i see him getting wore down by.
Them it's, like you got. It you gotta do. SOMETHING i, mean,
yeah but we DO i. GUESS i guess we'll wait
and see on. THAT i also want to know one other.

(44:00):
Team do you think Your knicks have done enough win a.
CHAMPIONSHIP i don't.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Know if they've done enough to win a, championship BUT
i think they've done enough to at least get to
the finals and make it out of The Eastern. Conference
because The Eastern, conference especially with all the, injuries is
wide open right. NOW i do like to move or
bringing In Jordan. Clarkson, YES i Think Mike. Brown i'm
kind Of i'm in the middle Of Mike. Brown LIKE

(44:31):
i Think Mike. Brown he did some good things In.
Sacramento he was A coach of The, year took that
team to the. PLAYOFFS i think you AND i talked about.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
It what. Episode we don't know What sacramento's.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Doing it's hard to believe that team had Both DeAndre
fox And Tyree Helli. Burton, yeah and then and then
you blame the. Coach you fired the coach because y'all ain't.
Winning but it's like you traded well my best.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Players mhm.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Uh, SO i Think Mike brown is sing higher and
he's the complete opposite of Tidds so you get that as.
Well and he has and he took he took The
caves to the, finals even though it's game like twenty years,
now but he did take The cast to the finals
When lebron was. Young SO i THINK i, THINK i
think the coaches was a good. HIRE i like some

(45:18):
of the moves they, did adding more to the.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Bench. Yeah uh SO i think they did.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
ENOUGH i think the question, is is can because they
believe we'red coach? Away so tis The Eastern Carface finals last? Year,
no It's Mike brown enough to take us over the.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
TOP i guess that's the. Question we're gonna have to
wait and.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
See but if he can, DO i, mean he's got
to coach his ass, off but it's possible we. Do
we do also have some interesting news that went. Off
disney is out here making power. Moves disney went out
and and basically that had themselves a week and they

(46:00):
first made a. Deal i'm not sure the exact, order
BUT i know they made a deal with THE ww
for one point six billion for five, years BRINGING ww
to THE espn platform OR espn. Platform, YEAH i have
it right.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Here So disney they signed a five year deal WITH
we worth one point six, billion and it's basically they're
gonna stream all of starting in twenty twenty, six they're
streaming all of the premium life events ON espn AND Espn.
Plus like you just, said so starting next, Year, Wressellmania Royal, Rumble,

(46:42):
SummerSlam all that will be ON Espn plus and then
also TO Espn plus will be the new director to
consumer streaming service for the W w as, well and
also ends this also's relationship With. Peacock so starting In

(47:05):
january twenty twenty, six no more On.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Peacock and if you want to watch all the old,
stuff it will be ON.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Espn even the old like network stuff like The attitude
era and all that will be ON espn as.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Well and sending the whole library over. There, yeah, hey that's.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
FIRE i HAVE.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Espn PLUS i got, LIKE i Got peacock, too SO i.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Was, Fine, yeah me, too me to have, both so
this doesn't hurt me either.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
WAY i know a lot of people online are kind
of mad Because disney has a habit of overpricing, everything
so they're not afraid that all the Premium life Of
dance and all everything else would be overpriced and making
off for people to wash.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
IT i, mean they could call up good Old Jack
sparrow come from me But Mickey.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Mouse, yeah but.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
That that's. That dale is amazing for. Wrestling the bigger
deals that that resting companies. GET i think the bigger
deals are the resting companies will. Get hopefully there's OBVIOUSLY
i don't think any company get nowhere near billions right
now for their. Promotions but as long as we could get,
three four or five more companies ON, tv it's a
win for everybody that eventually all make.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
It will help helps, you W.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
D i think especially with ESPN's that they're they're owned
by t K O o t K o with THE
usc has rushes and the. Rhythm, yeah So i'm NOT
i think the whole thing With peacock that was more
of a man.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Deal. YEAH i think this is just another way of
them moving further and further. Away this is.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Me, Yeah, well bottom line Is i'm all for.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
It it's as long as we don't got to See
punk ever again in THE, Ufc I'm i'm all for all.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
This, yeah, yeah you're lear.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Bro, yeah we. Don't we don't want to see that ever.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Again. Bro and then we have one More disney thing.
OUT i don't know if you have this pulled, up
but this got pulled up right. Now, Yep disney made the.
Deal they did. It they they purchased THE nfl, network
Including Red. ZONE i believe it's for ten percent stake
ownership IN.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Espn so, yeah, so like you, Said disney bought THE nfl.
Network and so as part of the, deal they GET
Nfl Red. ZONE a lot of people were scared that
they're going to fires start, hancing but to keep start,
hancing and they also buy THE Nfl fantasy which IS

(49:34):
i use that app to play fantasy. Football, yeah SO
i mean it's. Whatever but then adding in, exchange THE
nfl does get ten percent equity IN. Espn and also
two part of the deal is THAT espn would get
three more games per, Year so not only would they

(49:54):
Get Monday Night, football but they also get like three
extra games and they'll get to Televised Super bowl sixty
one ON.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Abc nice got a good, Deal, yeah be.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
The first First Super bowl televised BY abc SLASH espns
In Super bowl forty back in the two thousand and.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Five, well put it like, this as long as they
don't throw commercials and mess with Red, ZONE i wouldn't
even care if they change the. Host that's that don't
even need a host to tell you the. Truth just
as long as as long as they don't mess with the.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Games WELL i THINK i think they then a host
Of Super bowl though will be interesting because you know
they might put Like steven on the pregame pre game
show or.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Something, yeah, well we'll. See i'm not against any of.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
That LIKE i, said it's just the red zone is
pretty much all That i'm worried. About as long as
they don't change and messed that up a. LOT i
really don't care what they do to get their. Money
they could do what they got to.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Do, no, Yeah i'm with.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
You and then, YEAH i think, like as long as
they don't mess up the, redsume this won't even take
effect anyway into uh the twenty twenty seventh.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Season, yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
BUT i was gonna Say Super bowl sixty, one which
would be in right here and so far that'll be
Down time's twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Seven, yeah SO i THINK i think that's when it.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Starts, well that's that's gonna. Be that's gonna be. Interesting
my cat's trying to break in the. DOOR i don't
know if you can hear it going.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
SACK i can.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
HEAR i, thought, yeah somebody knock. It i'm open that.
Door she's not having it right, Now, Bro she's.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Trying to come. In. YEAH i just want to want
to be part of you want to be part of the.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Show either gonna let her in or she's gonna just
keep scratching at the door one or the. Others sounds
like someone's kidnapped over there or. Something but we do
have interest in football news to get. TO i guess
we'll go through the short stuff. FIRST i have an
idea of what we're gonna. Do things that are gonna
take the. Longest so the first Thing i'm gonna ask you,

(52:11):
about you gotta update On hendrickson in the in the
holdout situation you're telling me.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
About, yeah so he's changing the.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Approach instead of holding now he's holding. In so he
reported to, camp but he's not really. Practicing he just,
has like you, know allegedly here for, minor minor.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Injuries.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yep so he's basically went from a holdout to a hold,
in which saves him, money but same, situation no new.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Contract, yeah because these players they get fined fifty dollars
a day every time they missed.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Practice.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Yep and that's why you gotta come there with a back.
Injury so that way if you don't lose any, money
AND i respect. It we also have have you heard
any updates on the McLaurin.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Front, well we're quickly On Trey henderson he's he's saying
that his he's saying he's not sure if he's, back
could be ready for the start of the.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Season, YEAH i, AGREE i. Agree you, KNOW i don't
know if my back be ready need that that is
my back's hurt and starting to think about. It but
any any updates on On Scary. Terry, no he's, uh he.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Wants to be. Traded and we talked about.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
This, uh we might have talked about an off, there
but like they they've paid everybody else except for. Him,
Yeah and basically what he's saying is, that like you,
know basically he's saying that he Wants brandon, money that
he feels like he's better Than?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Brandy are you.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
He is So, LANDSLIDE i don't think that's.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Closed, YEAH i.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Agree, SO i mean he wants to he wants to
be trading either pay him and, trading But washington and they're.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Not they're not they're not trading. Him he's another. One
he's holding. Me so he's gone to, practice but he's.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Not he's not. Practicing he's camp but he's not he's not. Practicing,
yeah he's. Dealing he's dealing with some money in The jews.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Too sure his back hurts as. Well probably got some
some ni so this he the check claars he B
i maybe his hand is a little, Tight, yeah got
a air infection and something something, LIKE i.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Have A i GUESS i have a few. THINGS i
have the most to.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Say but first of, all he's he's from a whole
different cloth Than Brandon. Ayuk Like brandon AND i really
might have only had one good. Season you don't have spectacular.
Hands he's a little, fast, Right but McLaurin reminds me
of like he's more like A Stephan diggs, cloth like

(54:59):
they have pure, hands like their their route tree masters
put up numbers with with nobody quarterbacks and finally got
a good quarterback and blew his numbers out though and
and you, know all his numbers inflated because the first
good quarterback he played With brandon AND. I you can't stay.

(55:20):
Healthy he's a constant complainer baggage and, honestly.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
He's not a number one wide. Receiver it just is
not The.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Niners The niners is gonna learn at the hardway this.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Year, yeah BUT i think For terry, mclauran the Reason
brandan that you comes up is Because washington's, gonna, look
you don't Deserve Jamar chase money Or Justin jefferson.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Money he's saying.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
It, Look i'm not looking For Jamar chase. Money i'm
just looking For brandon our youth.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Money the forty nine ers messed that up and gave
gave him a bag he ain't, deserved you, know but
this is this.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Well ironically the forty nine ers they won the, Team
uh calling The washington for a. Tree, yeah AND i
think they don't with, it don't. Now it's like he
would have tried, it dam would d book For look you.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
They they'll ship you ayuk For terry mcclallin right. Now,
yes they had no problem doing. It so and let
THAT i see some even more crazier. Stuff let me
just be killed WHEN i say. THIS i believe they'll pay.
HIM i just can't believe that the franchise will make this.

(56:30):
Mistake with all the good moves they've been making the
past few. YEARS i think they'll eventually give him the
money once they figure this, out or he's probably gonna
get franchise. Tagged this is probably gonna be an ugly,
situation Right AND i ain't even talk about this year
because he can't go nowhere this. YEAR i don't, think,

(56:51):
Right i'm just saying this just might be a unless.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Unless he pulls Oliviyon bill and decides to shit off
the whole.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
SEASON i don't think he's that type of. Person and
that's What i'm telling. You AND i think they may
know that. Too think push comes to, shove he'll show.
Up but the things that the few things That i've
seen was extremely. Funny and you, know you can't believe
everything you see on the, internet BUT i Know Tyreek

(57:20):
hill's potentially on the trade. Block But i've seen something
come out that said that The dolphins Wanted terry McLaurin
and a high draft pick For Tyreek.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Hill.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Bro and THEN i had AND i laughed at, it
and THEN i got attacked from a million people on. There,
right let me explain, Saying Tyreek, kill, yes right, now
is still better Than terry. McLaurin Tyreek kill is still
probably a top five wide. Receiver he's still probably fastest
wide receiver in THE.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Nfl this is all, true.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Right he's also thirty, one which is only two years
older than, McLaurin which is.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
True, yeah of, course twenty.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Nine he's also and this is WHAT i told people
a few. Things he already has a big. Contract the McLaurin,
one you can manipulate. It it's not done, yet, right
so you can manipulate it into your. Favor The Tyreek kill,
one not so. Much it's already. Done there might be
some moves you can, make but you can't really front

(58:22):
load backload unless you're restructuring the whole. Thing you see
What i'm. Saying, Now remember you talked about falling off a.
Cliff speed is one of the first things to. Go
so say you Take Tyreek hill at thirty whatever million
dollars a year right now for two, years he probably
make it to thirty, three not a. Problem but you

(58:42):
can sign McLaurin right now for. Four he don't have
the leg hint injury history As Tyreek. KILLING i know
he'll hasn't per se missed. Games but here's the. Thing
every year there's something wrong with his feet or his.
Legs eventually it will catch up to, you typically in your. Thirties,
also when you moved it at the speed of a,

(59:05):
car eventually those is gonna. Happen so forget the fact
THAT i trust mclaurin's health. More i'm not gonna get
into prestol, cases But i'm just gonna say that he
comes with a lot of, BAGGAGE a, lot, Right, so
a lot of, baggage a lot of, complaining a big

(59:25):
contract plus. Thirty mclaurin's never had, issues never had, injuries model,
student model, teammate model, citizen nothing going on, there, right
never spoke up, once and it just so happens after
his best. Season he's due a. Contract he's the guy

(59:48):
you give the five year contract. To right, Now i'm,
saying if The dolphins ever called me and, Said i'll
trade You Tyreek kill for, McLaurin right, NOW i would
be asking, them, cool what pick you sending. ME i
got the young, GUY i got the contract you could.
CONTROL i got the guy that has no problems behind his.

(01:00:09):
Back you're giving me a headache that could retire at any.
Time do we forget? That he would just talking about retirment.
Possibilities you could trade him and he could retire at
the end of this. Year that's that's what you're. Doing
but but THEN i thought about how they juiced The

(01:00:31):
steelers on The Jaylen ramsey trade and thought The dolphins
might really be that stupid to think they could get.
That they might catch somebody in the cookie. Jo hopefully
The commanders are not that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Stupid, well they're trying. To they're trying to go all
in and but you can't go all in and out scientific.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
You don't. Go you don't go all in and not
pay your best player unless it's like he was a,
Problem like he's.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
NOT i JUST i don't get.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
It and mind, you you just traded for and Paid
debo money who's typically a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Problem happy to get rid of.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Them, yeah, exactly he, SAID i need to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Go they, said, yeah you're, right, brother it's.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
Time never figure it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Out this way Said they, said matter of, fact could
you take with? You because we see it with it right.
Now so trust, me they might have gave you debo
AND i For terry McLaurin in the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Pick, yeah, MAN i played by the dude that got
shot last.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Year, yo bro, listen And jennings is clearly better than
him right now at this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Point, yeah so he would have won The Super BOWL
mvp had they won the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Game JENNINGS i think is their their best wide. Receiver
that's why he wants his. Money he ain't. Dumb everybody's
looking at you, like, YO i ain't taking. This remember
last year when he started Arguing yuk over. This, yeah
he's looking at you right now to, like why is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
This dude also?

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Too jennings like he's his production has gotten better Since
Brock party took over as, quarterbacks and he can make the.
Argument look WHAT i, Mean i'm your man's like favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Target.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Bro he's looking At iyuk, Like, bro he ain't hear that.
EVERYTHING a lot of these problems are stemming for the same.
Thing they're just all looking At kittle same. Thing why
you think he needed to be highest? Paid he was
like tight, End, yeah but that's because probably because he's
looking At ayu like. You i'm tired of carrying this. Dude,

(01:02:39):
MAN i need the. Bag everybody over there needs the
bag because they Gave ayuk the bag and he don't
deserve the. Bag everybody needs the. Bag but, hey they
should have Gave party seventy five a. Year that was
that was WHAT i. Thought, yeah pretty take a. Discount,
yeah as A rams, FAN i think he was worth

(01:03:02):
a hundred million a. Year he should for, Real but
we got we got things going on. There we actually
have a good amount of stuff still to break, down
So i'll try to get through some of this. Fast first,
thing because it's kind of a short. Thing we'll give
a shout out To little's from The jaguars field goal

(01:03:23):
kicker seventy yard field. Goal did you see that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
SHIP i saw it In LIKE i, said off air,
man it just sucks that that he did in the preseason.
Game it doesn't count as far as it being AN nfl.
Record record still still, holds Justin tuckers as that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
Record, YEAH i mean he beat it by four yards.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Too, YEAH i think they need to give him a,
chance like before a halftime or like at the end
of the.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
Game, yeah they probably get a.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Shot, WELL i him making that, Kid there's no Way
jackson's gonna. Cut he's gonna be The Jacksonville jaguars. Kicker
and like you, said it's like the act on or.
Whatever you need to quick three points set them out,
there like the seventy one two.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Yarder, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Absolutely we also got a little bit of contract News
Kyraen williams signs a three, year thirty three million dollar.
CONTRACT i think what it really comes down, to and
BECAUSE i jump on this quick BECAUSE i didn't think
The rams will go go to ten million or over

(01:04:29):
ten million On Kien, williams and it really. AIN'T i,
mean some of it is due to obviously fumbling and
maybe them wanting to get a little bit more. Explosive
BUT i see what they did. Here it's a numbers.
Game so and let me just double check while i'm
While i'm, talking if you could pull up Contract kiren's

(01:04:50):
contract this, year what he's being paid this, year and
SO i could just basically pull up What i'm going
to tell.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
You but BUT i.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Think what what they did when they when they threw
these numbers. OUT i believe he's getting around five million this,
year If i'm not. Mistaken let me know if that's,
right somewhere around five. Million so you look it. Up,
yeah well bottom line just so it's about five, million, right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Does?

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Say just says, yeah so he's, uh he's making five
point three million this, year the final year is rookie
contract and then the expansion the kicking in twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Six.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah SO i think the way that this is being looked,
at and obviously he's getting eleven million dollars a year
for two. Years, YEAH i think it's an out year
around the third, year and it's twenty three million. Guaranteed
maybe he makes it technically the fourth year from, now
maybe he. Doesn't that's a long time for a running,
back especially with two young wolves on your, back, Right

(01:05:53):
but what it breaks down to is four, years thirty
eight million, dollars even if they fully broke it, down
because typically running back should also have wanted the raise
this year, too see What i'm, Saying so he would
have wanted the eleven eleven eleven a little bit more guaranteed.

(01:06:18):
Money he basically took a two year contract twenty three million,
guaranteed didn't put no extra money on this, year and
that fourth year he's going to have to earn, it you,
Know so that from that, perspective this is a good
deal even if he finished the totality you're talking about
for the next four years at thirty eight million. Dollars

(01:06:41):
so when you average it, out you see them trying
to tell you it's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
YEAH i thought it was a good deal.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
TOO i was surprised they even resigned him because What
i'd be hearing is That Blake kormy's been balling a.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Kid same thing with the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Hundred SO i was, like, okay with these two coming
up having great training, camps but what's the point he
was signing The williams when let these guys are rookie
contracts still right behind.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Him but they've got the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Done and now as far as running backs to, concern
it'll be interesting to see If buffalo that can get
something done with The James.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Cook he's another one that told you, That, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
He wants fifteen. Plus what he's, SAYING i might change.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
It, YEAH i think.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
If it was three, years they probably would have already
did it BECAUSE i think they would have manipulated it
similar To. Kiren but he probably wants a five year,
contract which a lot of running backs at that age
is gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Want, well he wants to Say Quan christian McCaffrey, Money,
YEAH i.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
DON'T i don't Think buffalo's gonna give it to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
ME i don't think nobody would give that to, him
tell you the. Truth BUT i do think THAT i
think he'll land somewhere around thirteen thirteen point, five AND
i think he deserves. It AND i Think bakley's out
like eighteen, now so, Yeah i'm pretty sure they raised
him so thirteen thirteen. ISH i think he is probably

(01:08:12):
top ten running back. TALENT i don't know IF i
per se put him in my top ten running backs right,
now but he has the talent to Be he's the,
diverse he could catch out the. Backfield he's. Explosive he'll
get thirteen. MILLION i don't know if The bills will
give it to him or they will, work you, know
a tricky contract which they'll, have you, know things to protect,

(01:08:34):
themselves maybe injury and sharing stuff like. That but if
they was to trade him right, now it wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
Be worth, much you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Know that's that's the Part i'm not, understanding because if
a team was even thinking about giving him close to fifteen,
million this is a running. Back they ain't giving you
more than like a fourth now fifth maybe you, know Like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Buffalo this doesn't have to trade him because we'll talk
about this too with The Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Park but they Could french.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Tag they can franchise tag them for another two years
so they can they can get as much mileage off
of them as, possible and after those two years they
can be, okay you, know you're good and just let
him go for interesting for.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Sure that's if he, don't you, know cause a fit
and not allow that to, happen you, Know but my whole,
thing What i'm saying is if someone does is willing
to pay him that, money they're not going to give
you a premium pick for a running back that they're
gonna have to and, say THE nfl is these these
days eyes, overpay, Right so you're talking ABOUT i, mean

(01:09:41):
think of it like, this And i'm not saying it's.
Possible if you're The, bills it would almost be better
to call a team like The colts that Has Jonathan
taylor locked in at probably a better, contract then cook

(01:10:01):
once and work sitting out like, that to just trade
for a running back that you like with a contract
that you like. Better And i'm not SAYING i think
Obviously Jonathan taylor's superior to, him SO i wouldn't make that.
Trade but What i'm saying is if you're not comfortable
with the contract he, wants then you gotta trade him

(01:10:22):
to a, team maybe a one for one for a
contract you do. Like maybe there's another team that will
pay it if you're going to play it for, player
but they're not going to give you a high pick
for that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Contract, no one's gonna you, know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Not for a running, back wide, receiver, quarterback defensive, end.
Cornerback there's positions that they'll do. That running backs not
one of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Them, well especially running. Back they only have one good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Year, YEAH i, mean, well some teams will pay for.
POTENTIAL i JUST i don't see.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
HAPPENING i, mean his brother had a longer random dominance
and he didn't get that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Money, yeah AND i think he was might have been
his peak so far has looked better Than James cook's.
Peak Alvin cook was dominant going for ninety, nine.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
But even Even minnesota was, like, no we, ain't we
ain't paying you that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Much, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Exactly he's been around with The, Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Jets, yep it's on teams you ain't even know he was.
On BUT i guess we'll after. That we have one
more big contract to talk. About and this is the you,
know this is the big. Koona Micah parson's. IS i,
mean his trade ask is pretty. Deep he done wrote an.
Essay he obviously feels, disrespected AND i Think Jerry jones

(01:11:48):
has continued to just throw more disrespect on top of
this situation every time he opens his, mouth which is
actually this point is getting, Ridiculous like it bled onto
him bringing up That's brian and That's brian on but we.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Killed me those When jerry talked about, like, well we
can't pay that much money because you never know he
might get hurt in the car, accident and it's, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Bro that that's, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Yo, bro he's literally my man said that he sat
down with him and had how to talk with, him
and he thought that almost had a. Contract That, bro
you know he has an agent you basically.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
And that's their.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Things he was, Like jerry doesn't want to talk to the.
Agent you want to talk to deal with the, Ages.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Like, nah you can't even do. That no talking about.
It he's just talking about breaking rules like he's just
going all over the. Place he was talking about how
Jay z broke in the deal for Des brian and
Jay z has never even been licensed to break. Down
he's all over the, Place, Bro, LIKE i DON'T i think.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
He's at the age man where he might be becoming Sea.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
BRO a little bit of dementia might be creeping in,
there because right now he's probably gonna have fines coming
in the door because he's just saying, ah a bunch
of shit he did that he doesn't supposed to be
doing at this. Point AND i do believe that this
is a tricky. One IF i had to, Guess i'm
gonna guess he gets. TRADED i think the reason being

(01:13:17):
IS i think a team will offer, two maybe three
first round. Picks we might be one of those teams
included to offer that ship depends how we fail about
this next draft coming up and what quarterbacks are coming.
Out BUT i think they've said too. Much that's the
thing when when somebody says they want, out Like Myles,
garrett the owner wasn't out there disrespecting. Him he was

(01:13:40):
out there, saying we're trying to get him his, money you,
Know and, yeah you know What i'm. Saying he, Said,
LOOK i GOT i got the, BANK i pulled up the,
Truck just sign the.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
Check we're.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
GOOD i, mean, like this has got to a disrespectful,
point and it's been, bruin you, know The cowboys been you,
Know AND i think it bleeds on To Micah passus
knowing he's saying some things he shouldn't be saying on his,
podcast but it stems from them saying things they shouldn't
have been saying to begin, With you see What i'm.

(01:14:14):
Saying SO i think that The Dallas cowboys and Mic
opasa's disrespect goes far beyond this, year AND i don't
think that that situation is fixable unless you go way
above the top paid defensive player in the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
League, well, okay SO i think his issues With jerry
Because jerry's going to keeps making all these.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Comments, yeah, YEAH i don't think something of them with
his players specifically.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Organization, WELL i was gonna say, though, like at what
POINT i Know jerry's the owner of SLASH, gm but
at one, point like what is like when Does stevens
come into that look?

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Bad sit, down let me let me talk to, me
let me handle.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
THIS i THINK i think this might be a Full
jones problem because you think that if they both got
to be in, agreements because if The sun had any
idea to want to do, THAT i feel like this
day would be. Done LIKE i feel like there is
probably the guys that are in his ear is telling
them About mike's podcast and things they don't like because they're,

(01:15:19):
LIKE i don't Think Jerry jones is tuning into YouTube like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Man, man The man is eighty two years old on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
YouTube, yeah so it's, LIKE i don't, know, MAN i
THINK i think they're done with each. OTHER i think
ownership is done with. Him they're not gonna flat out say,
that BUT i think they are shopping, him IF i
had a, guess not shopping, him like they're making calls
desperate because he's too good of a. Player BUT i
think they turn the on sign on where that phone's

(01:15:47):
been ringing probably for like the past three weeks, NonStop
and the first person to offer three picks and talk
to him to give him the contract he, wants which
is at least going to be forty forty three to
four whaty four million dollars a, year BECAUSE i know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
It might be able to cut you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Off But Stephen, jones he said yesterday before they get
The rams game, that, uh The cowboys are not trading.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Him, yeah of, course because he's gonna get the highest
picks as. Possible, backfan you don't shop a guy like.
That you tell him, no, no, no because they're gonna
call with one, pick two, pick three pick and eventually
you're gonna get that call, like, well what'd you? Say
y'all send your agent to go talk to that team over,

(01:16:31):
there see if they could work out the contract with,
you because we got the deal we want you, know
that's how it, works like just for just figuratively, speaking.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
And well, See but my point with The cowboys is
the same THING i said With james cooking The, bills
is that The cowboys they hold the cars because they
can still Franchise Tag Michael parsons for another two. Years
AND i don't know if we'll get to this, point
but unless see he pulls a Leveyon bill living on, bills, like,
look either give me my money Or i'm sitting out the,

(01:17:03):
season and The steelers, like go, ahead they called and
set out the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
YEAR i think he's too valuable for for that to.
Happen because here here's the. Thing If Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Bill was too available for The, steelers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
M, HEY i ain't even talk about to that. Team
i'm talking about to every team This every team in
THE nfl is going to line up to make him
the highest paid defensive end in the league or outside,
linebacker whatever you want to call. It, Right so WHAT
i mean is value outside of the. Building Le'Veon, BELL
i don't think he had as much value outside that

(01:17:38):
building as other people.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Thought you, know it didn't went to went to The
chiefs that he. Was he was the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Same, yeah it's just that was he might have just
been a product of The.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
Steelers but.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
This is someone, everybody even The browns that just Made
Miles garrett the highest paid defensive, end will probably still
go and pay Pay lawrence and say fuck, it we
gonna need a.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Quarterback. Like he's that, good you see What i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Saying so they're still Paying Deshaun watson one hundred and.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Thirty yeah at, home so and not even saying anything
about your door and stuff will get in. Tap but
my point is he's so good that a team that
has the highest paid defensive end of the league would
still pay. Him they'll find a way to do. It
he's that, good you see What i'm. Saying, so, yeah
that's WHAT i mean by. Him so if he decides

(01:18:27):
he's not playing the very first game he don't, play
a team will call with the deal of the game
out that. BUILDING i don't know if everybody's taking as
serious now And dallas ain't gonna tell you they're shopping.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
Him this is just gonna brew all off.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Season they're gonna field calls unless something blows them, away
and nothing's really gonna happen till he doesn't. Play if
he decides he's not playing that, week he'll get. TRADED
i guarantee. It it'd be. PROBABLY i, mean just like With.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Track, henderson just like though he's His dack might keep
him up that first.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Game I'll i'll give you an, example AND i guess right,
now the two most logical ones to just. Say AND
i don't think that it would be like, this right
BECAUSE i don't think you would need to give them
two first rounds and next year's. Draft But i'll use
The rams And browns because they obviously have the. Advantage

(01:19:21):
they do have two first round picks next year's. Draft
if they called The cowboys right, now it was, like
we'll give you both first rounders for next year and,
More dallas would start listening right there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Instantly they gotta. Listen you see What i'm.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Saying it's not saying that a team's gonna do, that
because it would probably be more like a first next
year for maybe a first for the next three years plus. More,
Right but if another, thing figuratively, speaking if The rams
called AND i wouldn't give up all of this BECAUSE
i don't think you need. To but if they, said look,

(01:19:58):
it we'll give you two first round Picks Byron young
in the first from the next year's, drafts you don't
think that they're gonna at least think about. It so
them saying they're not trading him as a way of
getting maximum. Value and this is this is one of
the PROBLEMS i have with coach McVeigh sometimes or even
just The rams in. General we always let you know

(01:20:21):
we're trying to trade the. Player that's why we don't
get anything in. Return, Right, yeah because if they know,
that if you can't trade, them what's next? Release? Right,
yeah there you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
Go now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Just think of these, Players Girly cup go down the,
list bro like players way worse Than cup got traded last.
Year you know this year during the, offseason you couldn't
Trade cup because everybody knew you was releasing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
Them you gave up on.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Them it's out there like for some, reason The rams
just let you know when they give up On same
thing With Jared, goff same thing With Todd. Gurley just
you had to you had to give up a you,
know a young quarterback that went to The Super. Bowl
for you to get rid of, him you had to
add in multiple first round picks third to get an older.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Quarterback do you see how that dal was? Lopsided?

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Right and you were going back To Cooper.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Cup it was announced last season during the trade deadline
that The rams are looking to trade, him and SO
i think teams were, like, fucky they're gonna they're trying
to trade. Him, now if we could just be, patient
wait until the offseason when when they release, him and
then we can go ahead and sign.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
And you, know and you know what they should have
and you know what they should have been. Doing AND
i know that it sucks because it's probably something where
they feel like it's not keeping it. Real they should
have been all over THE tv like we're not Trading Cooper.
Cup we have no intention of Trading. Coop and you
know what would have, happened somebody would have traded you
For Cooper. Cup that's what they would have did because
they would have believed you're not.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
Trading it's, like, right you, know if you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Know you're releasing the, guy why are we gonna give
you anything? Him no, sense because now we also got
to take on the contract you gave. Him instead of
controlling the. Contract if he hits the open, market we
get to dictate the contract and we don't got to
give you. Anything no one trades wants your cards are

(01:22:22):
on the. Table that's not how it. Works just just
kind of food for. THOUGHT i, mean keeping it real
ain't always the best business strategy when looking for trading.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Partners and that's one of the issues that the key
To leave had with him And Marcus peters to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
It Is, yeah you just GOTTA i Mean Coachrick lay
said that he wished he would have handled a lot
of little situations, differently but he's a baby when he started.
COACHING i don't want people that Think i'm mad at,
Him but you got don't don't always put those cards
on the. Table it will work, out bet if YOU
i guarantee. It, yeah sometimes. Yourself yeah. Yeah ALSO i

(01:23:03):
want TO i want to make SURE i don't skin by.
This but did you see What Aaron donald.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Said, yes so he said he might come out of.
Retirement you Get Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Persons, yeah he would have to probably.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
Take the league.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
MINIMUM i mean he might play for that Or i'd
say start Calling rams, now who's giving money back for
eighty to come out of. RETIREMENT i, MEAN i feel
like some of that might restructure for that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
Alone so.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
You got. IT i DON'T i THINK i think he's
he's more. Trolling BUT i also do believe that If
michaeh pass ever ended up in A rams, Uniform Aaron
donald would at least be drooling to.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
Play doesn't mean he.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
Would, WELL i was surprised that his Dead michael person's
dead wants in to go to The lions because they're
actually From. Pittsburgh SO i THOUGHT i thought his dad
wanted to play like the hometown. Team he, said, NO
i want my son to go to The.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Yeah one thing that That i'm not sure, of AND
i believe it just went off the books this, Year.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
But i'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
SURE i remember When Aaron donald restructured before he retired
and they spreaded it spread his money. OUT i wonder
if he still already has money that that's on the
cap for this, Year LIKE i don't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
KNOW i, mean.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Because you remember that he went back in and met with,
them told them they knew he was going to, retire
and they adjusted it. Right because if he has money
on the, books he might be able to play for.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
That, yeah they still they still own his.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Rights, yeah they still own his, rights which means he's
technically still the. CONTRACT i think got spread it out
BECAUSE i think at the end of, it you become
because he, retired he still tech they would have to release.
Him they never did released him to the free, agency
which meant any and could sign. Him so if he came,

(01:25:01):
back he'd have to play for The. Rams but What
i'm wondering is is he actually still on the like
on their dead money right?

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
Now is he still getting?

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Anything, no his his contract actually inspired in twenty twenty,
four which is his last.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Season, yeah that's that's WHAT i was trying to figure.
Out so they would have to give him a new.
Contract so could actually be a good thing because even
if he came back and they felt he was worth,
say he said he'll take twenty five, million right and

(01:25:40):
he only wanted to play one, year they could just
break it into two, years same, Thing SO i think
that and next year they get. Money SO i think
they probably could afford to do, that especially.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
If they had control of.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Mike is, contract Which i'll see if they traded for,
him they, would so they could structure however they wanted,
to and he'd probably even give them a little bit
of a discount the play a year With Aaron.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
Donald SO i feel like it definitely could be worked.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
OUT i just don't know if The rams would really
be interested in, that BUT i think THAT i have
a funny. Feeling sean or less at least Called Aaron
donald after, that so it was, like hold, up, Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
NO i THINK i think The rams would be. INTERESTED
i don't know if The cowboys would be. Interested, yeah n, act.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
But hold, on this is what this is What i'm.
Thinking if.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Let's just, say figuratively, Speaking sean McVay and his wife
having a nice. Dinner he sees this treet go, out,
babe hold on a second Texas Aaron.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Donald are you, serious?

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Bro and he writes, back, yes if you trade For
Micah POSSON'S i will come out of. Retirement if that's the,
conversation The rams might be willing to give them an
offer they can't say no. To it might come with
a couple of first, rounders might come With Byron, young

(01:27:11):
Who i'm completely against trading right, now BUT i do get.
It if you ever traded for Another dee, year you're
not gonna be able to pay, VERSE i might and
A Byron, young so he would be the odd man.

Speaker 4 (01:27:24):
Out But.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Byron young a couple, first the, third maybe three, first
it'd probably be enough to get. Him and if that
was the cost For Aaron donald to definitely come, back
say he, Says i'll come back for two years fifteen
million a year right, NOW i do the trade right,
now no. HESITATION i wouldn't even think about Arch man

(01:27:49):
AND i would not even care because we're gonna get
a ring within these next two years With Matthew, Stafford Aaron,
donald And Michael.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Possons maybe. Two.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Yeah at that point he goes back to F n picks.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Again, Yeah i'm an advocate f them. Takes Then i'm
still an. Advocate so, well WHAT i. GUESS i guess
we could dive right into the next. Thing granddad, Said
och isn't coming, out.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
Thoughts i'm just saying that all. ALONE i didn't not
see him coming out after this. Year AND i, KNOW
i know he started a handful of games last, year
BUT i just felt LIKE i didn't see him after
you started one season coming. OUT i see him coming
back for his senior year and then coming out after

(01:28:38):
his senior.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
YEAR i respect. IT i think he'll do a couple
of years. TOO i don't see him doing four, years
probably not even. Three but for some, REASON i don't
see him coming out this year, neither UNLESS i THINK
i told you this, before unless somehow it's the best possible,
situation like right, now BECAUSE i think if just say

(01:29:01):
put it like, this if Oach, mannon the granddad would
talk about right, right, watch, Yeah Archie.

Speaker 4 (01:29:10):
Archie they're both The, archie you know What i'm.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Saying so just say say that he really wanted him
to play for The, saints right and say The saints
of the number one pick and they want Arch. MANNON
i think his grandfather will advocate for him to go
to the, draft you know What i'm.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
SAYING i think that if it's like The, jets The.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Titans maybe Not, titans they just got a, quarterback but
you get What i'm. Saying jets are one of these other,
teams he's gonna, say, och don't do.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
It, Son he's gonna say.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
GRANDSON i, mean but if it's The, rams you, know
if The atlanta, pick WHICH i don't.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
Think or the or The, giants because you know they
have good relations with the family because his uncle play.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Did but they just jected jetson. Dirt SO i don't
think it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Yeah and this is WHAT i. Mean if IT'S i
think he's it's gonna come down to how that draft board,
falls and he's gonna be looking At, Peyton eli And
granddad and they're gonna be telling him OR.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
I think that's just.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Gonna be what it. Is you, know you thought they
Thought dion was gonna be. Bad, Bro they're gonna they're
gonna look crazy when they realized that the odds don't
get dropped to the fifth and you find out That
eli And peyton's out here threatening, people, Listen.

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
I'll just leave it, ALONE i.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Guess and if we could dive into, it by the, Way,
Shador i'm gonna go off top Because i'm not even
gonna pull this.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
UP i BELIEVE i know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
It fourteen for twenty, three about one hundred and thirty eight,
yards two. TUBS i don't think there was no, picks,
clearly no no. PICTURE i think he ran for nine ten.
Yards who looked a lot faster than people. Said people
Made it made you think he was. Slow that did
you see the rollout to the. Right as squared, out

(01:31:02):
this planet looked Like Tom. Brady i'm just gonna say.
It that throw looked Like Tom. Brady, Uh and something
right there dawned on. Me he couldn't be the Next Tom.
Brady not the same, round you, know but fifth round.
Pick people might have looked at it like this isn't
gonna help. Him this might have all worked into his. Favor,

(01:31:25):
YEAH i was really impressed with, them. THOUGH i thought
he played. WELL i don't want to read too much.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
Into it because it is, preseason SO i don't want
to get like all hyped.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
UP i thought he played. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
Well it is look those passes the type mainly that
rolling out past preseason or.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
Not that's a.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Die, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
Exactly BUT i was gonna say, though HE i, THOUGHT
i think that this is a great opportunity for. Him
the reason why he started is Because Jimmy pickett got
hurt And Dalan gabriel got. Hurt, Obviously Joe flacco at forty,
one he's not playing, anyway it's, preseason but he wasn't gonna.
Play but the other two quarterbacks ahead going to the.

(01:32:09):
START i think so, too because it. Started, YEAH i
THINK i think it would be started because Of Stefans
is trying to keep his, job so they got to
make the. Playoffs SO i think he's gonna go With
Joe flacco BECAUSE i think he trusted him more than
the other guys at this. Point Unless flacco gets hurt
or they get up to a slow. Start BUT i
thought he plays, well and LIKE i, said this is for.

(01:32:30):
Him you, Know Kenny pickett's, Heard gabriel's, heard take advantage
of the.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
OPPORTUNITY i think he did that On friday.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Night i'm gonna say a couple AND i want to clarify,
too BECAUSE i know our listeners might play that boy's.
Crazy WHEN i said next Time, BRADY i didn't mean
he's going off and he's gonna, win you, know twenty
five rings and all that. STUFF i just mean that
late late round draft. Pick both of them played good in.
College brady was good In. Michigan for some, reason people

(01:32:59):
just did it slow for people thought they were. SLOW
i just don't have the right attributes and.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Well For brady's because he got bench For Drew, henson.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
But he took remember though he took the job. Back
Like brady kept they like just kept going back and,
forth like, dude couldn't Win brady to come and win the.
Games BUT i just think that that the dynamic of
being late and having the chip on the, shoulder that's
the PART i meant as far as you Know Tom,

(01:33:28):
brady Because Tom brady wore that chip from the day
he was, drafted so he still has it on right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Now you know about.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
It, Yeah so that's that's WHAT i.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Mean if If shador can keep that chip on his
shoulder right, There i'm not saying he's gonna get the,
rings BUT i don't think it would be hard to
get this. Job And i'm gonna go out on a
limb right. Now stefanski is a smart offensive, coach RIGHT
i don't Think flacco will play in the preseason BECAUSE

(01:34:01):
i think right now he's penciled in as the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:04):
Starter smart.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
Decision, Well stephinsky Won coach of The year and they
made the playoffs their.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Quarterback, yes, yes But i'm Gonna i'm gonna make SURE
i get this out right pick it And gabriel getting
injured if they don't suit up these next two. GAMES
i just put it like, this If shader gets to
play one or two more full preseason, games and he matches,

(01:34:32):
this he'll be The Cleveland browns start at day. One
they won't be able to stop, it And stefanski will
be smart enough to pull the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
Trigger AND i almost see it. Happening, WELL i could.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
See it happening, too but then it's kind of jumping the.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Gun but, then if You're, cleveland if that's the case
that she does to your quarterback in the, future what
do you do With Deshaun? Watson they still owe HIM wat.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
One hundred and thirty three million.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Guarantees he's, yeah but he's a Post june first cut next.
Year that's the only time they could save. Money so
when When june first comes next, year it'll be a
Post june first cut and they save around sixty seventy million.
Dollars but that's the only out they. Got so he's
he's not playing this year and they'll be cut Post
june first next. Year REMEMBER i said that first right.

(01:35:24):
GUARANTEED i already see the. Writing he's he's just cutting him.
Now it's gonna cost you more than keeping, him you,
know because if you cut him, now it's not you
don't have an. Out you're gonna eat all that deadcap
money you hold.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Them right, now fifty million just to, rehab.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
Yep and you're gonna have to pay him this whole.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
Year and you could Post june, first cut him next
year and they might have some injury.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
INSURANCE i don't know about.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
That they probably could get back some money there, too
but they'll save about seventy million dollars next year at
some point when they cut. Him can He? Pickett probably
just he killed himself getting, injured AND i don't Think
gabriel can really give should stay in this competition to
win THE qb. Job so this is WHY i think
the writings kind of on the wall they was trying

(01:36:11):
to bury, him and those two qbs got. Injured now
the world's seeing, him, Right it's not gonna take long
to Pass, Flacco AND i literally think in one game
he mighted just surpass those other two guys to take.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
You he doesn't even have to Pass fla BECAUSE i,
mean this be Real flaco at forty. One he's gonna
play this year and then next year just give the
keys To but.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
What i'm saying IS i think that If shador can
go out there in, another, say three quarters of a preseason,
game and look. Flawless there's no reason to, wait see, Dude,
like if it don't, work then you go To.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
Flacco but if if this kid can go.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
Out there week one and do something The browns didn't,
expect isn't that The brown's gonna need some magic to
turn this.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Franchise that's What i'm. Saying, like.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
He has to make the playoffs to see if, guy
he's getting. Fired so that's WHY i think he's gonna go.

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
REGARDS i think THAT i think that this is What
i'm telling.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
YOU i think If shador could stay, clean no, TURNOVERS
i think he has the bigger.

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
UPSIDE i think he.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
Gives AND i also think that if he gets you,
in you, know even he might not even need to.

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
Get you the.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Playoffs if it just looks, good he probably save your. Job,
flacko ain't saving your? Job like you could probably make
the playoffs with, him lose and still be. Fired if
they you're Developing Shador sanders and he's looking, good you
might get the.

Speaker 4 (01:37:38):
Pass he's the guy to save your.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Job you see What i'm. Saying SO i JUST i
have a funny Feeling shador is gonna as much as
they tried at The week. ONE i don't think he
might be the guy behind The brown. Center, YEAH i
have a funny feeling we're gonna see him before. That
let Let's Joe flacco come out and throw a couple of,

(01:38:02):
interceptions or watch how If shade plays good the rest
of the. Preseason watch how quick this turns? Around The
browns Are The browns will have excitement the minute they
Say sanders their startups.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Get, people and they still got a top ten.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Defense, yep, yep you know SO i just THINK i
just think he's gonna surprise a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
People The cincinnati we just think of, them uh playing
their starters in the.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
PRESEASON i like.

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
IT i like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
IT i think a lot of teams deal with injuries
because their guys ain't ready to. Play they come straight
from you, know practice is one, thing but they're not
doing real game, stuff and then they go out. There
first time they get, hit they get like a you,
know a, hip you, know a hit pointer or, something
and now you, Know Ti higgins is dealing with hamstring

(01:38:57):
problems for six. WEEKS i think if they go out
there and play a quarter here and there in, preseason
you shouldn't be scared of.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
Football you're getting paid to play, it you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
KNOW i think For cincinnati, tho it's not so much the,
injuries just that every year since they Jacked Joe, burrow
they get off to slow. Starts even the year they
went to The Super, bowl they got up to a
slow start and they kind of got hot at the
end and then they went to they made that, run.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
Went to the Super. Bowl this is what it is last,
year but they didn't really start playing well Like.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
November And i'll tell you what it. Is Zach thomas
is their.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
Coach everybody wants to use That, johnny excuse, Me Zach.
Taylor i'm thinking the Linebacker Zach thomas right, now ship,
legends But Zach taylor from The rams right coaching. Staff
they all want to do what McVeigh does where they
don't play their starters in the. Preseason and this is
why The rams start. Slow everybody knows that you could

(01:39:50):
get us those first couple of. Games we ain't even awake.
Yet look at the last two, seasons we started off
like three and, five.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
RIGHT i think the only year of the YEAR i
remember it starting fast was twenty eighteen when we started out.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Eight, no, yeah, yeah and then, This this is What
i'm trying to tell.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
You, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
I'm not saying to Play stafford in the, preseason that's
just not worth.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
It but right now we need to get into.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
Practice, yeah but like skill position players and, stuff you
should never be scared of a football. Game when you're
scared of getting injured in a football game is when
it's time to.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
Retire you see What i'm.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
Saying like, you so if you're playing seventeen, games twenty five,
games why does it? Matter you're getting paid millions of.
Dollars SO i never WENT i. Don't you just don't
supposed to go into a football game thinking you're gonna get,
hurt because that's when you get. Hurt so it's a preseason.
Game you get paid to do. This go out, there
run a couple of, routes catch a couple of, passes

(01:40:54):
and get out the.

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
Game but stay.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
Fresh, YEAH i was ACTUALLY i was surprised because Like
cincinnati never plays their starters in the, Preseasons i'm surprised
that that you had their starters out there in that
first quarter Against.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Philly they realized that these are why you're getting off
the slow. Starts timing got to get back. Together there's
a bunch of. Shit you gotta get back. Down just
get at least two, drives give them a, sign you,
know just make sure that there's nothing rusty before you
get the game one and you figure it out then
like we usually.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Do.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
Uh and speaking OF i guess the next question we'll
dive right into is how you feeling About maddie's.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
Back, BRO.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
I am not feeling good at. All i'm not feeling
good at.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
All he's gonna missed two weeks of practice because of
that bad and they're saying that it's it's a bulging
a bulging disk and his lower back and that's something
that's gonna linger all. Year, yeah so it's got its
gott nervous. Now sean McVay saying that they're hoping that

(01:42:00):
he should be ready for a week, one but even
if he is ready for week, one LIKE i just
know for the fact that that that's that's gonna be
lingering all season.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
Long to be, fair McVeigh did say if the season started,
Now stafford would, Play SO i GUESS.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
I feel he had to say grain because LIKE i
would feel more confident if he was actually out, there
like cats over here spec.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
UP i FEEL i feel more.

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
Confident he's actually out there like, practicing but he ain't even.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
Practicing that's that's what got me like.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
Nervous, yes same same. Man i'm worried about, it BUT
i guess on the bright. Side that's And bennett looked good.
Yesterday yeah he.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Did he's finally coming along.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
Looking like a Little jimmy g right now, Right, yeah
they got. Hate the way they throw it bothers. Me
it's like they release it like short time or. Something
but he's starting to look like a little Like Jimmy.
Garoppolo he bawled out. YESTERDAY i appreciated, watch AND i
think he makes the team. Now and you cut him
now after letting him look good like, that he ain't

(01:43:05):
making the practice.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
Squad, no he's gonna BE qb three for.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
SURE i think so, too especially with his back injury.
Lingering we we can't afford to. LOSE a week, AGO
i wanted to throw him to the curb after watching,
Yesterday it's, like, guy, Man i'm giving you one last.

Speaker 4 (01:43:22):
Chance you can.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
SEE i was happy that you can see the improvement
in this.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
Game, yes just don't fall apart of. Me week two
because last year in the, PRESEASON i feel LIKE i
had the same roller. Coaster he looked good for a,
second then he threw four interceptions in one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
Quarter so just, Yeah i'm, wondering, Like, okay they keep
telling me he's THE qb of the, future and like last,
YEAR i.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
DON'T i don't see, It LIKE i don't see What seaman.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Is, YEAH i, still even even with him at his,
BEST i don't see him AS qb of the. FUTURE
i see him as backup. Material but he played good
STRADER i guess was the start of the game. Yesterday
kron also looked.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
Good but.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
That the one thing about The rams always been top.
Heavy we usually sucking preseason because we don't have.

Speaker 4 (01:44:16):
Depth, Bro we're. Deep did you see, that like this
we was.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
Running we're running with people out there that could have been.
Started there was people making. It did you see What
Willy lampkin was. Doing not not The lampkin that was
playing cornerback that got a, Pick i'm talking About Lil
willie on the. Line, Bro he's like The Aaron donald
the ole. Line he's like super. Undersized he was like

(01:44:43):
projected to go all over the. Draft he ended up being,
undrafted he's gonna BE i think he's gonna be a great.

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
Player looking to Him Willie. Lampkin he's a.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
Center, technically BUT i think he can move around the.
Board out of the three centers we, have he's the
guy to watch out.

Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
For we know what out and is And LIMA i
think has big.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
Potential But lampkin's like unmovable and he's only like five to.

Speaker 4 (01:45:06):
Ten, bro it's.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Crazy do you think he can?

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
START i think he can if you if you watch
them LIKE i was watching them in the trenches, yesterday
he wasn't being. Moved and it's the same way in
college he was ranked one of the best. Guys it's
just his size that five Living yeah For, sena that's
tiny What i'm, Saying but look at, yo get look

(01:45:30):
into him when you get a. Chance, bro the kid
is an absolute. Monster LIKE i want to see him
get in the. GAME i want to see IF i
want to see him get in the game with a
start IN d line right the first string is and
if he can do that for one, Quarter i'm starting.
Him Sorry shelton In, Limba i'm starting Him like he

(01:45:50):
looks that good on.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
Tape what do you think of that Telling jimmy g
that the next time they see The rams being THE
Nfcy championship.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
GAME i think it's, well wishes should be. CONFIDENT i
don't think it's actually gonna, Happen but, HEY.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
I see The rams There i'm talking About.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
I'm talking about The cowboys being there The. Rams, yeah
unless that's getting. Traded oh, wait he could be, No,
no he could be. Right he could be right because
maybe he's buying tickets to watch the.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
Game oh, yeah watch he watched the.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
Game next time see? THEM i understand and THAT i
don't think he believes he'll be. There it's speaking of.
Quarterbacks how about This colt? Situation bro what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
There so there's a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
Battle, indeed between the quote Between Anthony richardson And Daniel.
Jones from What i've been hearing is That Daniel jones
has been Outperforming Anthony richardson in.

Speaker 4 (01:46:49):
CAMP i think he's.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
Started, yeah well HE'S i. DON'T i Think anthony richard
started the preseason game On, friday but he got hurt
after like h was the second or third Player brooker's, Finger.

Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
Daniel jones is sting. Tomorrow this, well this.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Week, yeah this, Week so right, now this sin is
pretty Much Daniel jones's job to.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
Lose BUT i THINK i think.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
For Anthony, richardson it's deeper than him getting. HURT i
think what he did last year tapping out in that
game Against, TENNESSEE i don't.

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
THINK i don't think the players on.

Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
That team are ever going to forgive him for, That
AND i think that's part of the reason why they
brought In Daniel.

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
Jones he might have lost the. Team he also might just.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
NOT i hate to say, it because, YEAH i Wanted
Anthony richardson on The.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
Rams i'm still willing to trade for him right.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
Now, mentally he needs to get a little bit, stronger,
bro and that's what it seems like he might like
he might be done over there and could be part
of him tapping, out could be him not getting along with.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
People.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
Sometimes it's like kind of like the Constant wentz, thing
like you, know you hit hurt a bunch of, things
where like he don't really vibe with his teammates or.
Something you don't really never get the full story, Though so,
yeah because we're.

Speaker 3 (01:48:08):
Parts of WHICH i thought it was weird that they
went so hard for the Backup Luke, foles and they
did for.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
Him, yeah that's WHAT i. Mean SO i DON'T i don't.
Know Maybe anthony richards just don't vibe with his. Teammates
it's as simple as.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
That well that and also too but like to, ME i,
HONESTLY i was surprised that The colts drafted him number
four overall because watching him in college and he was
a college he has accuracy.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Issues but to be, fair, Though Josh allen had wild
accuracy issues coming out with the, draft and they had similar,
Traits SO i think that's probably what they were.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
Thinking, yeah BECAUSE i think both of, them they're there
player coming out of college Was Cam.

Speaker 4 (01:48:51):
Newton, yeah, Exactly Josh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
Allen he was able to improve his game pretty. Quickly
Anthony richardson and struggles and it blows my. Mind But
Anthony richardson is like he throws the seventy yard. Past he's,
accurate but he throws like a five yard. Slant it's,
like it's.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Like, bro what are you?

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
Doing told you it's too. Gifted, bro he can't do
the easy. Shit that's HOW i told. You he, like
DID i have to work at? It it's like when
he first got a, football he was, like go. Deep
he threw a sixty yard ball at, thirteen fourteen years, old, Right,
therefore he never practiced on the little.

Speaker 4 (01:49:26):
Stuff he just gave you the, spectacular you.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Know so that's why when you get to THE nfl
and it's that dump, off whoa, WHAT i gotta be
accurate that five yard? Past why are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
That you?

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
Know so that's it is what it. Is BUT i
mean sometimes being so good at it just doesn't help
you the way you think it would as if you
worked at. It you.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
Know, well, yeah but WHAT i was about to, say
those that like watching it the, COLLEGE i just didn't see.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
It and then he was one of those players.

Speaker 4 (01:49:59):
THAT i didn't See Josh allen.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Comes, yeah me, Neither but like he was one of
those he was one of those players that just like
dominated the combine and that's why he got daftie so.
High but it's like when the, combine it's easy to
dominate because like you just throwing the niggas in the underwear.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
And, shit, yeah this is the. PROBLEM i think in
the combine they should have pads. ON i don't understand. Why,
YAH i, agree like if you because if you're the
job is playing with. Pads how CAN i know what
you're gonna do IN? PA i, mean OBVIOUSLY i have your,
tape but you showing me anything outside of those, pads
outside of like who you, are if you know, me

(01:50:37):
trying to know you right doesn't help, Me like doesn't
help me at.

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
All of the football well and all, that but a
lot of the drills that haven't do in the, combine
you're never gonna do that in the real game.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
Anyway and if you, are you're gonna have pads. On
so how does that showing?

Speaker 3 (01:50:53):
Me like like he didn't having like a forty inch
vertical that this has helping be a?

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
QUARTERBACK i also can't jump that high with The uni form,
on so what does it? Matter so, LIKE i just
don't get some of that STUFF i. DO i Hope
Anthony richards it gets out of. THERE i think he's
another one of those players with WHAT i was saying.
Earlier he's not going to be successful on the coach

(01:51:18):
and it's not them because their organization has been up and.

Speaker 4 (01:51:20):
Down but right now.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
Or even up and down ever Since andrew looking.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
TIRED i, say Even peyton Because andrew never really did,
anything you, Know so even Since Peyton.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
Championship WHAT i WHAT i mean is you're right With andrew.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
Luck but WHAT i would say is the reason why
up and down is it started with them doing him.

Speaker 4 (01:51:45):
Greasy that's where the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Started like for most of His, korea they looked at
him like he's the golden. Boy then they went down
because you treated the guy that major franchise relevant again like.
Ship so the down started. That it started that year
when they Ran peyton man and out Of.

Speaker 4 (01:52:04):
Indianapolis that's WHEN.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
I, mean, YEAH i do what you're.

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
SAYING i get you're saying, yeah BECAUSE i thought a
lot of people thought they treated they Treated peyton bad
at the, end AND i.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Felt like they. Did they did treat him.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
Bad but at the same TIME i got it because
they weren't expecting to get the number one pick and
they got. It so it's kind of, Like, okay you
can't pass On. Andrews, look you, know so we might
as well get rid Of. Peyton but, YEAH i THOUGHT
i thought they did him dirty towards the end of.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
It, YEAH i, mean it's. Business you gotta do what
you gotta. Do but that's WHEN i looked at them
like a funny business franchise me personally fast Everything peyton
did to, Them BUT i mean The patriots did it
the tom so you.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
About, yeah because if you listen To peyton man and,
talking he rarely talks about the, calls you, know but
he he was, like you, know he always talks about The.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
Broncos you would think he put his career with The, Broncos,
yes because they treated him.

Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
BETTER i guess we'll see what. HAPPENS i Prefer richards
to get traded out of. THAT i think he's done
on the coach AND i do believe he will be done.
ANYWAYS i Think Daniel jones is gonna take that. JOB
i actually believe he'll played pretty good over. THERE i
don't think that they're gonna win a division, anything BUT
i don't think they could do a lot better over

(01:53:21):
there than he did In New. YORK i guess that
would that would be my take on.

Speaker 3 (01:53:26):
That, well what helps him is that he's playing with another,
stuff bringing back And johnson, tail AND i don't think
there's as much pressure on him that's In New. York
the pressure, Was, okay we want you to not only
do we want you to be the Next Eli, man
and we want you to be better Than Eli eli

(01:53:47):
won To Super.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Bowls Dan jones didn't even come.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
Close and then of course The johnson made a mistake
of Paying Daniel jones instead Of saquon and kind of
missing their.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Franchise AND i AND i don't think that he'll have
to run from media and stuff In.

Speaker 4 (01:54:01):
Indianapolis, well, YEAH.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
I think it's a smaller. Market you have to deal
with media costing in your. Face, YEAH i guess the
pressure like nobody asking. You, yeah they're not asking him
to win To Super. Bowls we're just asking him to
be better Than Anthony.

Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
Richardson, yeah fair to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
Say AND i guess the last segment will end On
we're gonna touch from every episode going, on and we
gotta have. To we might probably won't be every episode
unless we're gonna drop some extra ones or we'll have
to do more than, one but we're gonna try to
touch EVERY nfl division before the season, Starts so we're
gonna start with THE Afc north. TODAY i guess that

(01:54:43):
the main question IS i guess you could let me
know what order you think they'll end up in the
biggest stories in these. Divisions, Obviously shadel we went over
most of the stuff with The. Browns but how how
are you thinking that this division is gonna gonna end?

Speaker 4 (01:54:59):
Up when it's said in Down, OH.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
I think this might be one of the toughest divisions in.
FOOTBALL i Think baltimore will win the. Division, yeah BUT
i think BUT i can See cincinnati making it the.
Farthest they're still gonna have a top five offense that
they've had last. Year, yeah if they can stay. HEALTHY
i should say, that if they can stay, HEALTHY i

(01:55:22):
see them having another top five. Offense for, me it's
about the. Defense last, YEAR i think their defense is
winning thirty first or thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
Second, yeah their.

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
Defense to just be average and be like in that
sixteen to seventeen. RANGE i think they can make a
deep run.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
And get to The Super.

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
BOWL i.

Speaker 4 (01:55:42):
DO i have faith in The bengals as.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
WELL i guess my order would Be, Ravens Bengos stale
As browns orders the. SAME i have a funny feeling
though three teams make it to the playoffs with this.
DIVISION i have to really look over the whole. Thing
BUT i, MEAN i think The bengals And ravens get in.
EASILY i think they both have more than ten, wins

(01:56:04):
probably eleven plus each of. Them at Least ravens might
even have more than. That BUT i got The bengals
ten to eleven, wins and THEN i think The steelers
will be nine to ten, wins AND i think they
might be a sleeper team to get into the, playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:56:18):
DON'T i don't think that they're thread at The Super bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
THOUGH i think The bengals probably if they their defense
gets together and now they got two edge, rushes so
if their defense can just move to the middle of
the pack, defense they got the Best Super bowl CHANCES
i think looking at it, now BUT i think probably
when the season, starts The ravens would be back in
powerhouse the powerhouse. Seat SO i guess we'll have to

(01:56:44):
wait and. See it's gonna be a toss up between them.

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
Two, well, YEAH i.

Speaker 3 (01:56:47):
SEE i Think, Well, pittsburgh they Since Mike thomas been,
there they win like nine games every.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Years that's with out of.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
QUESTION i think they will miss the playoffs BECAUSE i
think three teams from THE Afc west is gonna make.
Me but as far As, BALTIMORE i agree with, you
LIKE i picking him to win that. Division but for, me,
though at some point they Gotta, lamark they gotta break.
Through Like Lamar jackson's had great, seasons but his playoff

(01:57:17):
performance is gonna match his regular season and so at
some point he has to break through and kind of
get that monkey off his. Back and that's WHY i
SAID i Think baltimore win the. DIVISION i could See
cincinnati going.

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
Farther, yeah this is gonna Be this is gonna be
definitely be a tough. Division If shada does get in,
there or The browns can even be, serviceable this this
is gonna be a wild. DIVISION i, Also i'm, also
unlike a lot of other, People i'm Expecting rodgers to
have a pretty good. YEAR i know last year wasn't
bad per, se but this Year i'm.

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
Expecting him IN dk to do some things over.

Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
There, YEAH i mean For Aaron, rodgers and he finished
to see he's, strong but for the most part he
didn't play up to His Aaron rodgers. Level and then
his last year on Green, BAY i mean he was. Terrible,
Yeah like Green bay had no. Point he was so
bad Green bay had no problem moving off to. Him
Oh SO i mean For Aaron, RODGERS i really don't.

(01:58:17):
KNOW i just Think christoph's gonna win nine games because
they still have a top ten. Defense, OFFENSIVELY i think
they'll be. Okay Aaron rodgers can't be any worse than
What Russell wilson was last. Year BUT i still don't.
WIN i don't see them making the, Playoffs and if
they do make the, PLAYOFFS i think they're gonna be
one and dal if they have been for the last ten.

Speaker 4 (01:58:37):
Years, yeah that's that's kind of the.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
PATH i see them going on one and done playoff
here if they if they sneak, in because to be,
FAIR i do expect them to be the third place
in that. Division so if three of them don't get
in there obviously the odd team. Out with that being,
said is there anything else that you want to throw
out there before we slide? Off?

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
NO i mean that's so that's, it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:00):
MAN i think we've discussed all the breaking.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
News i'm happy that football's.

Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
Back hell, yeah full season with full, swing so we
got a lot of a lot of things to talk,
about like you, said with breaking down each division every.
Episode so, yeah just stay tuned, in keep supporting the.
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in the nice two hours, today, Bro yeah we.

Speaker 2 (01:59:54):
Did wasn't spent to spend forty five minutes on THE,
nba but we. Did it was a good.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Conversation, yeah we gotta get it. Out that's WHY i
just gotta run through what we gotta run. Through next
week we'll see how they adjust their top fifteen, too
and we'll debate it.

Speaker 4 (02:00:08):
Again, hopefully hopefully we get some bigger.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
Moves i're also gonna pick one day a week just
so everybody knows we're gonna have a resonant baseball analyst,
coming and we're also gonna have our resonant hockey analysts
coming soon closer to the. Season but we will be
flooding you guys with all THE mlb playoff news real,
soon so don't think we're skipping other. Sports we're also

(02:00:32):
going to be adding boxing IN ufc as much as we.

Speaker 3 (02:00:35):
Can, yeah, SO i know what THE, mlb you, know
the playoff races are heating, up teams buying the, season
win the, division who's gonna.

Speaker 2 (02:00:43):
Get the wild? Card and it's be. EXCITED i. Know
living here IN, la everybody's excited about The.

Speaker 3 (02:00:50):
Dodgers hopefully they can stave off The padres and win their.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
Division, absolutely let's go Go. Dodgers you know what time it,
is but back to. Bed hell, yeah let's let's keep
it moving and enjoy. Yourself if you need, ME.

Speaker 2 (02:01:08):
I enjoy Your university Of.

Speaker 1 (02:01:10):
Night, yes, sir talk to you, soon my, brother all,
right peace

Speaker 2 (02:01:16):
Ahm