E8 T4 El Maligno y el Ángel

Episode Transcript

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Welcome once again to this podcast ofArgentinian myths and legends. My name is
to show off Al Stransch and todaywe are already passing the eighth episode of
this fourth season for the episode ofI give I bring you a case of
a listener who approached communicating that hehad many, but many paranormal experiences throughout

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his life, to the point thathe chose to sort them out and accommodate
them under different titles. One ofthem, as the name of this episode
indicates, is the evil one andthe angel. But not only will we
not find such stories, but wewill also have visits of other dimensions,
appearing premonitions and hereafter contacts. Iimagine that already with this introduction that I

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just made to you, you canno longer be anxious to hear all these
stories. But before going on tothe interview, I' m going to
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we' re going with Jorge's interview. Good morning, how are
you? Good morning, Jorge,everything' s fine here, you,
how are you doing? All right. Thank you, good nigga. Anyway,

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thank you very much, well.Tell me, where are you,
where are you? Hey, look, Lucila. I currently live in Mar
del Plata. I am sixty yearsold and I was lucky enough to live
in many places in our country andto travel as many others, so I

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have quite a walk and many experiencesof different situations, some good and others
not so much. So good.The stories I' m going to tell
you now happened so far. Iestimate that two or three years ago,
I say so far, practically untilI was sixty, not two or three

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years ago, that I no longerhave any sort of situation. But well,
listening to your show, which seemsfantastic to me and the podcasts,
I realized and so I decided tocall you that I had experienced a lot
of these situations that you have outthere, as well as something everyday.

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Not so much and you say goodthey happened to me, but I really
wanted to share them with you andyour listeners. Well, Jorge, well,
thank you very much and how interestingthe introduction that you give me telling
me that a story comes from pastthe time and from different places. So
anxious to hear you. Well,Dale, look at me from everything I

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could gather from the experiences. I' ve brought them together by subject and
put you and the listeners in alittle position so they can live it.
A little bit better give her thefirst one. I put in visits of
other dimensions. You live in Patagonia. I lived in Patagonia. When we

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look at the sky, we seethat it is immense and I really find
it hard to believe that there isno one within the two thousand and five
hundred galaxies that exist. So,well I say we' re not the
only ones. These experiences that Ihad occurred between the nineties and nineties,

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more or less, in two differentplaces. When we go to my father
- in- law' s tovisit him in a house that has exaltation
of the cross that is there nearthe chapel of the lord, especially in
the summer at night after dinner,we have seen in the sky lights.

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These lights are not lights that youcan say, they are common lights in
groups of two or three moving fromleft to right, from top to bottom
or diagonal to speeds and with anglesthat are impossible for an airplane. These
lights are white, yellowish speakers,throwing radish at times were brighter, brighter

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and enlarged or smaller, as theywere clearly not airplanes. I of those
experiences there in the chapel of theLord who say that there is a lot
of activity, we have seen themtwo or three times with all the family,

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so that is a very clear account, that something in heaven is clear
and then yes, yes. No. I wasn' t going to ask
you if the people who lived therepermanently told you about this situation as normal,
as usual, or it was alsothose episodes that happened to them when

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you were there and nothing else.No. No, they also saw them
from time to time. Yeah.Moreover, whenever I went I said that
when we will see them together ora couple of times not clear and then
I lived many years in Pariloche forkilometer nine to give you an idea in

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my house, facing the lake andthrough the window of the living room and
the rooms opposite had the island Huemullooking to the left, so very cute
instead you that you know, towardsthe island we saw Villa, the Angostura
and towards the right Dinahuapi and Bariloche. It is not true also similar situations

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of lights that appeared in the skyis already one or two that not in
groups of three, describing orbits thatat great speed over the same trajectories and
lasted a little longer than normal.When Commander Polanco, Jorge Polanco and I
lived in Bariloche, we were havingdinner and the light was suddenly cut in

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all eight. I remember you lookingat my lady looking at the lake,
by the side of Bariloche. Itwas all dark, that there was no
light in any of the kilometers,because there were miles, there was nothing
and well, we said a blackout. We learned to see the lanterns to

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continue with normal activities and nothing more, because it was a blackout until the
next day we learned about what hadreally happened by the media and others and
neighbors. Ours had seen those lights. So also of that fact we can
give faith and I can give myselfbecause I turned it off. I lived

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it punctually and that was in theninety- five. No, if I
don' t remember any more,in the ninety- five and I also
think a gendarme plane was running aroundexactly and what I saw in the lake
two or three times, no morethan that, was like reflections under the

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water. Yeah, you didn't imagine how when the moon lights up
Lake Tranquil because it was punctual wasin a place from the lake. Yeah,
like there was a light down andnight in the lake, no one
walks under the water. So nothingmore than that, like luminescence that no

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one can explain to that. So, well that' s what I have
as experiences with other dimensions. Howinteresting, apart from now that you say
the lights under the lake when it' s night. There aren' t
many of them in the past.Many videos have been virialized about this situation

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and the truth that is striking becausein some cases one can explain it with
algae, with microorganisms but particularly therein the Huapi strike, and I have
never read anything like that, becauseapart, if it were, it would
be a phenomenon that would be repeatedfor a long time and it is something
that does not dream exactly guau.Sure, you light up muyniscences aren'

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t because there' s no cytoplankt, there' s nothing like that.
Of course it' s a goodthing, on time, yes, yes,
so of course it is. That' s what I got. Let
' s say, as I wassaying with visits of other dimensions. Well,
I like it after having very goodpremonitions. Well, the first thing

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I had, Mira, was thatI remember punctually, I was seventeen.
She was very vivid to me,because she was strong. I went to
my grandmother' s in Mar delPlata going down the quintana street and there
were some babies that I saw themdown two blocks of the quintana street by
bicycle that were going up the tarand they were going down and up and

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down and I was getting closer andcloser to them at a certain point,
when I crossed the corner of thelast block and the babies doubled in front
of me, the bike started tocome down and I had the vision of
one of the kids how he fellwith the bike. He was hit by

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luck, nothing serious happened to him, and he stuck himself in Nanubio in
his stomach, but it was amatter of fifteen seconds before fifteen seconds later,
the baby falls in the place thatI saw him. It was known
this, the manurius hit himself witha barbarous blow. Luckily I repeat,

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nothing happened to him, but Isaw him clear. The accident before clear
and you is that it comes toyour head, to your mind, as
well as something that you imagine asa dream or was something that you saw
as you saw it in front ofyour eyes. I didn' t see
him in front of my eyes.I was walking. I think the kids
start coming down and then like thebaby got a pun and I look again

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and the baby keeps coming down andit' s gone eight meters and it
' s got the fall. It' s like I' m ahead of
time. Sure, sure, awesome. So that one was very vivid for
me. Then, when the formerPresident Nestor Kichner passed away, and I

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think there was a national census.I remember I went to the office because
I had some late jobs and Iwanted to get them off my back,
because I wanted to have a piolaweekend and I put on the good news
and at one point I was watching. I don' t remember what program
and I listen to it like that. Last news to confirm this is tremendous

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news if what happened and didn't say anything about channel change. We
have a news item that is indevelopment. Let' s confirm the channel
change. Again it' s beena couple of times doing Sappin and nobody
said anything and I got the picture. Not nertorquima died and two minutes will

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have passed and on the first channelthey say good. They just confirmed that
former President Néctorqíssimo died. Look,I' m telling you nothing further from
politics or anything like that. Iwas totally out of context, but for
me the news was presented and saidand the one that happened to me also

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similar was with Michman I nor ideaswho was itself. I remember the day
before they said he' s goingto file a prosecutor to present evidence at
the Bill Pompon courthouse and give itto him, and give it to him?
And at night already half late.I don' t remember it was
eleven o' clock at night.Also news in development of also confirming a

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bomb, a question, so thetitle and gave of a woman died the
prosecutor. I know you' regoing to talk about Mexico, how you
' re going to die and youdied prosecutors and said and done, so
you saw this weird weirdo and itshocked me a lot too. I was
very shocked. Imagine that just totell you about premonitions, but if I

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had them, of course and thebiclaritas clear and it' s weird,
because it' s not something youcan control. Or that it happened to
you, even with family or personalor intimate issues, but that was how
episodes were, very random, verygood. Yes, yes, very to
the area apart, I tell youI' m a politician. No,

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I' m not keeping an eyeon that news or anything like that if
I didn' t go up orthe name, because clear from the prosecutor
and good and it came up likethat, it moved read, the prosecutor
died and well, to the recissorthe news that had happened what had happened
is not true. Yeah, sogood. Me. As for premonitions,

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then I have astral trips, ahlook, look. The astral journeys took
place around the age of twenty.When I was twenty years old and thirty
- five years old, none ofthem scared me. I can assure you
on the contrary, I loved them. The first one shocked me a lot,

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like he pulled me off the axisbecause I didn' t know what
it was about. I was homealready to sleep and entered a state of
deep and rare relaxation, but veryvery, very very pleasant, very very
piola, totally relaxed. I wasn' t asleep from that. I think
I' m sure and in amoment I begin to feel like my spirit

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begins to move away from the body. And I see from my spirit that
I begin to separate from the bed. I don' t see my job
that I' m starting to getout of bed. Well, this caused
me an amazement of an emotion.I tell you tremendous that they quickly made
me come back to reality, becauseit' s a thing never experienced by

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me. At the same time Ialso enter into that situation as a lethargy
sopor of total relaxation and already andyes, knowing as what it was about,
I start to how to raise andalready begin to see my house from

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above and walk around the house.Yeah, and I see the whole house
from above. I didn' tsee any relatives of mine, sleeping or
anything, but I went around thehouse, the courtyard, I went to
the bottom of the different environments andI saw the house from above and I

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also went back to my normal situationand woke up with a feeling of tranquility
and euphoria. I had loved itand the last time, well, it
was already stronger, because I alsorelaxed already I went out well the town
and the city from above and Ialready traveled I was going, I was

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going like for the desert, forthe mountain, It was like a trip
you saw that you are doing indifferent places, not at much speed,
but they were passing and changing thelandscapes and places. Really, yes,
very pleasant. I' m tellingyou, I loved it. It was
one of the best experiences you everhad and never again. So I don

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' t know. I' dbe because I was young and I'
d have less worries and you're more relaxed. I was just going
to ask you if you had,had, or have any hypotheses of why
you are given at that age atthat time in your life and then don
' t look. I always reada lot and lived in many places and

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listened to a lot of things andthere, at that time, the idea
of astral and scientific journeys and Ialways liked myths and I' m also
half, like you to get toa village and if I want to know
the history of the people, Igo to the Cemetery, because in the

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Cemetery there is the history of thepeople and it is and that and maybe
because, well, that' swhy I told you I was younger,
the worries were more focused on thosethings. I was trying to meditate a
little and good it happened. Butthen I never again achieved that state of
relaxation and tranquility, never again.I think I must have been maybe by

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the time I was living. Idon' t understand. I understand,
so, well, then another experience. Okay. I am Catholic, normal,
practicing, normal, in nothing extreme, normal half and I believe in

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God and normal what I am goingto put the evil one and the angel
to, because I believe and itis physically proven, chemically and so on
that everyone has the assumption. Yes, the hat, the skinny, the
tall, the low, hot,cold and if there is a level,
there is also evil and perhaps thetruncation of evil is to make us believe

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that it does not exist. Butif there are good things, there are
bad things too. Well, youwant to go for the argel or you
want to go for the evil one. First light, let' s go
get the angel, let' sget the good angel. When I lived
there, in Bariloche, I'm inside the things I do. I
' m also a professional user andwe were doing a technical job. In

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alicura. There are stone fences ofthe Ustás eagle in the priest we are
making a technical museum at quite depth. Thirty meters that day I go down
with my partner, according to thetwo people when it is necessary to do
technical Ucios or depth, low withmy partner and I being professional use and

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so on, the man is confident, I exceeded in the times and in
the jobs and entered the reserve ofthe air pond. Then I signal to
my partner that I' m goingto go up well. I' m
starting to move on from the securityline and about six meters deep, where
we have to make a stop forpreventive decompression stop and when I want to

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climb up, I have locked theletter on the security line. The safety
line is a gross cape of aboutfifteen millimetres that with a knife in that
situation is sure that it does notpass well, the regulator, which is
the cheap one that goes in themouth, had almost no air. I

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wasn' t getting any more airbecause the reserve was exhausted in the park
and I started with the maneuvers tosee if I could make the escape,
loose, belt and other series ofissues and nothing I keep working there and
I said well, boy you werein all that situation. I look up

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at the surface that looked at theclarity of the surface and suddenly, I
kind of see a slightly stronger lightand I see my whole life go by
like in a movie. And whenI see it happen in my life as
a movie, well, I saywell what I know, I remember my

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wife, my children and whatever Godwants. And there I feel a voice
that tells me something like you relaxedthat face and good and I relaxed.
I stopped pulling with my leg andtrying to unhook and automatically unhooked I ascended
I arrived saying blue up wrong,wrong. Well, there were the other

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teams that were waiting to enter.I told him what happened. They wanted
to blow me up first, becauseI had exceeded all I had and in
all that planned. They wanted toblow me up, but I had to
tell them because I didn' tknow how I got hooked, because the
lyrics are impossible to get hooked on. Well, then, when they went
down, they checked the corporal andthe corporal was perfect. So good.

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This was the situation that I latertold her at home. I was also
wanted to burst because I had notrespected anything, but it was incomprehensible what
had happened is not true. Ofcourse and to all this, your partner
who had descended with you and well, they also wanted to burst it,
because, as a rule, ifsomeone has a problem, the two of

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them have to grapple together. Andso I lower it, because he had,
he still had me what happened,that I had done deeper into his
own airs. Yes, then Ihad done much more than he had.
Then I consumed a lot more.He' d have to see the world
with me. He wanted to blowit up too. Poor Francis, yes,
that' s why they asked youwhy I' d say two have

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to go. It' s notgood enough to ask me why some details
are missing. Poor Francis also thebook a Chinese Rebound. Of course,
yes, well, capero, aswell from the outside and half, as
in a speech of mates My answerwould be perhaps this experience that you passed

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half senseless, because then they wentto check and there was no reason a
hook of that style had to dowith teaching you a lesson. Not as
a good thing, be more cautious, because if not at another time you
don' t safas just like that, just like that because trust was what
led me to make that mistake andhave that ugly situation unclear. So,

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well, that' s the oneI attribute to my guardian angel that I
think we all have, in particularI believe and regarding positions that don'
t believe it, so it's not true and good, let'
s go with the other, withthe evil one. Well I lived in

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Pinamar year seventy- eight. Youimagine Pinamar in seventy- eight isn'
t what he is today. Itwas a Balnearia villa, which was very
piola, but it was still aseaside village. The secondary convict had been
working for three years, because itjust looked open. Then the boys who

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had at their seventh finished moment,passed to first, second and there was
third year. I, when Imoved in, went to second, passed
second and my brother to first.Good with us. In the second year
there was a girl by name thatwe' re going to preserve with the

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lyrics CD. When I got toschool, everyone told me to take care
of this girl. Well, whyshe' s weird. They told me
everything good, little was weird.We came back walking because in the afternoon
it was very early at night inwinter and by five and a half it

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was late and dark all along theavenue the school that gave two blocks parallel
to the avenue and we all wentin the same direction, in the blocks
that were not the avenues, thatwas all illuminated, there were lights every
fifty meters of cinema in the cornersand half adequate we were walking the whole

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group of boys and at a givenmoment my brother and friends tell me we
turned here to the left, totake the avenue. I say good,
but I tell this girl she wasthe only one who kept walking on the
two mast blocks, because she wasturning right. Let' s go with
her. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no. Wespeak to such a saying well,
I will accompany you I say no. Let' s not be like that,

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shall we not? Well, theyturn left for the avenue. I
' m still with this girl walkingand at a certain point she separates herself
from a little tree, stops talkingto her about a bluff, stops talking
down her head and raises her eyeswith her head down and starts looking at

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me and starts laughing, but inan ugly and out of control way and
I tell you that I' mnot afraid of many things, but that
look left my life to the marketand still puts me a little bit.
The skin of the hen saw andbegan to laugh, to laugh and looked

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at me fixed and good. Thecompany of mine lasted thirty seconds because I
went out itching for the corner andbent to the left to meet my brother
and the other guys that I meton the avenue as we had met,
and it tells me what happened thatyou came so fast. I don'
t tell him what' s goingon and I don' t know how

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to get alone. Come on,we' re here, no, no,
no, no, minimum, we' re home. I mute ate
I lay down. This was Fridaythe next day we get down to the
ball now and say brother they're not waiting. I mean no.
I have to go do a fewthings. Then we got together where I
went. I went to the chapelto give it to Father Augustus, who

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was very close to us. Itell you, look, this happened to
me, this and this, andI started with him and I was watching
the face transform. I didn't tell him who he was at any
time, his face was changing.He puts his hand on my head and
I said I was good to bequiet to you. God is with you
You' re protected by the waterpencil. I don' t know,
I don' t have any problems, but you' re trying to avoid

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this person. Okay. Okay.We talked a couple more things and when
I' m leaving, you tellme you didn' t tell me and
I didn' t ask you.This girl is such. I' m
telling you, it fell into avalley of cold water and I said yes,
yes, and I said good.Try to avoid it. Okay.
Saturday night we all went dancing thereI tell you in pineamas that I was

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very small in the only place andshe didn' t show up. On
Sunday everyone to the movies with theboys, she didn' t show up.
I tell you guys that we sawfifteen sixteen calms and on Monday I
say I' m going to findit on the outside because it was the
virus. I met her and whenI found her, she looked at me,
she didn' t tell me anythingor the one in the chao and

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never again. We finished the schoolyears and so on, but never more
than a good day, good afternoonwe had, but it was ugly an
ugly situation that I still live today. I tell you pretty bad when I
remember, because it was a weirdlook and a very weird situation, of

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course, and you never asked thepriest why that girl told you. No,
no, no, because I'm telling you, I stayed with
such a juleso and such a thingthat when he told me it' s
this girl, I said what sheknows, of course, that she knows
something or there' s something andI didn' t ask her. I

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didn' t really ask him whyI was trying to forget. I never
told my brothers and sisters I thinkit was the first time I' ve
told them. I told myself good. I told my wife and I don
' t know what' s better. That is not known, it is
not worth any strong thematic clarity andit marked me fli. I tell you

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every time I tell it because thelook at that I tell you there came
I saw nothing, but I sawa force. I saw evil. Sure.
Yeah. Yeah. Besides, itis to emphasize the importance that you
make of this fact to your life, because you compare it practically when you

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lost your life at that point,you put it. So I really do.
I realize it must have been avery strong and very shocking situation for
you. Yeah, yeah. Actually, if I tell you now, I
' ll grab a half- hen' s skin. Every time I remember
that, because it was really somethingthat I was never seen and I didn
' t tell anyone or that Ihad my parents or my brothers, to

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you now and I think to mylady and the jurist later. Besides,
well, thank you so much forthe trust. So, well, that
' s about this topic. ThenI have the theme of appearing look at

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two situations. One I managed fora long time a large stay near Coronel
Suárez, yes, in the provinceof Buenos Aires, and a large stay
that came to have between employees andfamily between eighty and ninety. I grabbed
it with a lot less people plant, but for you to get an idea,
silos plant. He had a supplier, he has a usina, he

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ran a big bakery, big print. This was in the two thousand ten,
more or less chapel I had then, once a month for the people
who lived in the countryside and couldnot go to the city, to Pringles
or Ua Suarez, who are leftat ninety k I made a priest come

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to officiate my if by the waythey came from the murderous rooms. Then,
after Mass, I would make lunchfor friends and we would all miss
Sunday there as a family and wewould chat for a while and have a
nice time and the boys would gettogether well. At one of those lunches.

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My youngest son there was six yearsold. We were playing outside with
another and at one point I seethe two of you coming in and seeing
my lady and my lady gets upand comes out good after a while.
I see I' m going backin and I thought it was weird and
I' m saying something happened.No. No, he doesn' t
tell me everything right. No problemfantastic. We' re still at the

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meeting. We were, like,20 seniors to give you an idea of
marriages and boys. There was aprecalada and then my son comes back with
this little friend and they come tosee me and he tells me dad,
he tells me there is a gentlemanoutside, because I do not tell them

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to see what he needs. No, no, I don' t know
there' s a gentleman out there. Then I' ll tell him to
see. Take me where he is. Then we go back nothing and where
they saw Ka and what he lookedlike and he was a gentleman this young
man who was dressed in white likethat in white goose, young goose and
what he told them was not standingthere. Then I looked everywhere. If

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there was nothing, I' llgo around the song I' ll go
to the garay to all those areasnothing and I say well, guys,
if you get to see him again, beat me up, but don'
t come near me. I wasworried because I said Che wasn' t
a jel nin man. He's being melodic about his stay or something.

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Of course, and on the otherhand, everybody' s going.
I' ll call the two tourersfor that n the runs in the afternoon
and say che Look happened this,this, this, please, you go
around the creek area, the entrancearea, over there on the route.
Why the boys come such a thing. Victor Boss, no problem. Pa

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peron Monday the next day, Mondaymorning I join with all the pawns,
I say that I walk not withoutproblem. We didn' t see anyone.
I take my lady to the administration, because she worked in the administration
with two more ladies and I tellthem I' m going to go through
the activities and I come back halfa morning when one at ten and a

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half eleven in the morning I tellher, girls, some news that says
I don' t, not allright, what I know I end up
for bread and says sit down.One of the ladies tells me that they
were two sisters that we' regoing to tell her something. Okay.
It turns out that these two sisters, the father was born in the countryside
and had worked his whole life inthe countryside and they were born there too,

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they had grown up, that is, they knew the countryside better than
anyone else, but there was nostory. He says well, look,
he says we' re going totell him something. You tell me,
as you know, there was abakery here. Yeah, I tell her
a girl' s bakery not thatit' s closed. It says good
there, at the time there wasan accident. One of the guys who

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baked bread went to pick up firewoodfrom the logger and dropped the whole pile
and killed him crushed and told mewhat that kid was like. Tata tata
and it was as the two babeshad described it to me and as the
babies had told my lady Me.But some people have seen what I know,

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but you don' t have tohave any fear or anything, because
they don' t make water.And that' s where it was and
that' s where it was.So six- year- olds. I
don' t think they imagined sucha thing and that I saw it was
my lords and then, obviously,something they saw that he didn' t

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tell them anything, he didn't do anything to them, he didn
' t scare them much less butwell, that was the situation they had
there during the stay. Clear ontop, even the type of dress matches.
No, because being dressed in whiteis always synonymous with gastronomy, so
it has all the meaning of theworld. And, on the other hand,

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no, of course joke, notbecause they would have done it last
only with your wife and that's it, but clearly you when you
saw them they weren' t laughing, they weren' t holding back any
jokes, nothing. They were furtherapart, I tell you they were traviz
was lost, that is, whenI was little, but not that level.

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And with the friend next to theroom, next to inventing such a
thing, not clear, yes,so good, and then, in Bahía
Blanca we had a place when wewere going to meet like this for the
theme of the fields and so on, which was an accommodation where you could

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stop as long as it was necessary, or when you were carrying things,
blessings and other issues, a largebuilding, imagine you coming in, a
gallery at the entrance with benches,you came in, double force to the
left, a large desk, tothe right, a living room also very

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large. You continue down the corridor, left with giant melor as for forty
people on the right side, kitchenwith deposit tones and then following through the
corridor, six complete rooms and doublein l for the end of the corridor,
for what was the laundry and somewarehouses with exit at the end of

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that corridor facing the garages. Well, there they did say that he had
appeared and some things and that andthat there was some kind of activity.
I just don' t know ifit was a suggestion or that I was
alone there, after dinner, thatthe teaching went away and the rest went

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for the kick. You saw themon. One time I saw as a
white shadow, half transparent in humanform, but nothing more than that,
which happened slowly to the side ofthe corridor that doubled, but nothing more.

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He didn' t make any noiseor anything. And I, knowing
this whole story, told him thatI don' t have to stay here
I live here or I don't know each one of the climb and
let' s not bother such athing and never bad see all the times
I never saw them again. WhatI do, this is that out there

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was the work of my imagination certainone. There I was, as it
' s called, sensitized and thoughtI saw something I didn' t see.
But the funny thing about this isthat an afternoon already almost in the
evening we were with a partner sittingat the entrance to the banks. Those

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that I was telling you and itturns out that on that night we were
talking about everything a little bit andtelling me the story of the figure until
it appeared. I tell you,look, I saw such a thing,
but I don' t think so. It' s up to me.

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We kept chatting and at a pastmoment we were sitting. That' s
why I went under the gallery andwe see a round light passing ahead of
us passing me. He was onmy right by his feet and goes through
mine and goes to the left side, through the gallery and I rise without
saying anything. He looks at mebecause I had risen out of the gallery

(39:15):
to see if there was moon,that nothing to see, but it was
what was represented to me. Icame to see if the moon, but
it can' t go through likethis with a flashlight. And I stand
there looking at him and he tellsme you saw what I saw and there
I realized that something weird. Himand I tell him what you saw.

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She tells me I saw a light, she tells me you didn' t
see her pass your feet I tellher yes, I wanted to see such
a thing. And that was alsoreally a very vivid, very real experience.
We weren' t afraid, welooked around after the whole building.
What do I know and there wasnothing, but that light happened because without

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telling us anything, I got up, went to look. He stared and
told me you saw. What Isaw and described to me what I had
seen is that really good. Unbelievable. Of course I can ask you the
hotel name, but then I'll take it out if you don'
t want to. It' snot a hotel, it' s a
company accommodation. I understood it wasa hotel. Oh, that' s

(40:22):
fine. It' s okay,not to see, it' s an
accommodation that the company has where youhave to take things to headquarters by the
time you have to. Of courseI understand, I understand Give it good.
And the last thing I have totell you is contacts from beyond.

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All right, contacts from the afterlife. Let' s go see a little
piece of you. We went forthe farthest, which was in 13 March
of the eighty- six, thatwhen Mom died, I was very young,
I was studying, I was inthe central building there from the faculty

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in a very nice resting place,the granite floor, with some very piole
windows, with some glass. Idon' t know what I and Mom
had been in the hospital for along time since summer, I was in

(41:36):
very bad health and I was alreadyfinished. And I that 13th of March,
which was a morning, remember,radiant cold, but radiant beautiful.
I was good at resting there asI told you, and suddenly the two
windows opened, that is, twowindows, and an interesting cold of the
beautiful day came in, but nothingmore than I wind good to be the

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ones that if I stayed there tofinish the rest, I was alone and
soon. I see one of theregents is coming and he' s holding
my hand like he wanted to talkto me. Then I get closer and
when I get closer, I lookat him. I' m telling you,
my mom didn' t die,and the guy looked at me and

(42:23):
he tells me, and you knowhow I told him, well, he
also got sidelined back then that Ididn' t have a cell phone.
I don' t know if therewas the truth in the' 80s.
I don' t know. Idon' t think so. And,
well, that was the situation withMom. No, that was in the

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eighty- six. I became aboyfriend later with my current wife and in
the eighty- seven we went tomy grandparents' house, to Mar del
Plata. We' d been aroundall day, and she' s gonna
lie down for a little while.I don' t know. Then he
goes to the winter garden and liesdown in an armchair and when he comes

(43:07):
back half afternoon, four and ahalf five tells me and my grandmother I
have to tell them something. Shesays I didn' t dream about your
mom, I saw her and Ilived her. Then we tell her comfortable
and she tells me look your momwas careless so she asked me so she
was okay, don' t worry, to take care of you how I

(43:30):
know and that it' s okayand don' t worry about her.
My mom was a lady, verylady. Guy dressed up from the years
I tell you sixty around Jackie Kennely, with those little details and he describes
it to me in a blue dress, with white polka dots and a pearl

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necklace that I loved. That timeI' d seen him in pictures.
Then I say good, but yousaw mom and where you are and I
quickly said where she knows she hadthose clothes. When you were walking around
the house and there were all thepictures and none of those pictures Mom was
dressed. So, then this good, I didn' t say anything and

(44:23):
we looked through the pictures. Notin this one, we don' t,
but I don' t know,but she was dressed. Like this,
boom. We go back to myhouse in Buenos Aires when the holidays
end and I say, I knowwhere that photo is and I look through
the photos stored at home and Ifind the photo and I show him one

(44:44):
day he comes home, I showhim. I mean it. This was
the dress. She tells me,this was the ladies I saw. She
tells me because the mom knew herby photo, she tells me, but
this is the mom I saw.Just like those pictures. But yes,
yes, yes, really, reallyimpressive. So, okay. Let'

(45:07):
s say the contacts, let's say the afterlife. I never had
anything again. So now that I' m listening to the show and watching,
I see I' ve been luckyenough to live different things. Yeah,
it' s true, and I' m gonna take advantage of asking

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you what the last one I'm gonna be. They did the last
one that happened to me was theone with the white lights in the two
thousand ten. The one with thewhite lights in two thousand ten. Okay,
well, to put me in context, because you told me, well,
not long ago, it doesn't happen to me, but well,
I wanted to know that the lastone and you feel like something like

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that happens to you again. Orso it' s okay, not for
me. All right, I mean, it was the astral trips. That
' s great. All right,because I' m telling you, I
really enjoyed the premonitions. What Iknow is what' s going to happen
in the future and there' sno turning around, because you can'

(46:13):
t change that. And maybe thereis some contact that I know beyond some
of my beings as they have departedthere would be piola. The only thing
I would be willing to do isto appear on the subject of visits of

(46:35):
other dimensions, which I didn't like was the girl. I'
ve got the doll, the ligniestone, No Yes, it' s
the only one I can resist,but the rest have been very strong experiences
out there, but I wouldn't mind living them well, I wouldn
' t mind you. So good. I hope these stories that I lived

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to share with you have been ofinterest. Yes, Jorge, the truth
is, super interesting. Everything Iloved, besides this that comes ordered and
entitled spectacular, very ameno to thestory and good a huge pleasure to hear
you and from now on I thankyou for sharing this space all your stories

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with us and well, whenever youwant and something happens to you again,
I am also welcome to tell youvery good. Well, we' re
in touch for what you need sincethe channel' s open. Well,
then. Thank you very much,Jorge, just as much for you and
I send you a very big hug. Thank you all very much. See
you later, see you later.I hope you enjoyed, like me,

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this spectacular episode, with all kindsof varied stories and a lot that I
really think we could have done twoepisodes maybe more. What do you think,
some of these things have happened toyou. They' ve seen strange
lights appear, they' ve hadpremunitions. If so, I would love

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