Ep 317: UFC Paris Recap. Noche UFC Preview. Canelo vs Crawford This Weekend.

Episode 317: We look back at UFC Paris.  This weekend is Noche UFC and Canelo Alvarez vs Terence Crawford....we preview both events. 












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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, everybody, welcome back to MMA after Hours. It's Michael
Carlisle alongside Micah Frankle. Micah, how you doing man?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Man, I'm excited. We had a great week. We got
a wild week coming up. There's a lot of good
with the combat sports world and we get to get
into it. From UFC in Paris to UFC Notch. I
think there's some boxing match going on. I got a
little bare knuckle to sprinkle in for you. And did
you actually hear that, Hey, maybe Brian Ortega did pass

(00:34):
out from his weightcut, woke up in an emergency room
and everyone that is around him is not his friend.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, I hear all that. Oh, oh for sure, And
I definitely want to talk about that because we might
have been a little hard on Ortaga. But I also
think we went out of our way to be fair
because this has been an ongoing thing with the weightcuts.
But if there's any truth to this, and I don't
have reason to doubt it, this is all the more
reason why you need to re evaluate what weight class

(01:05):
you're in if you're going to continue to fight, because
the weightcuts are getting tougher and you're gonna have to
make adjustments. You can't keep putting your body through this.
And oh, by the way, the UFC is not gonna
continue to book you and fight not knowing if you're
gonna be able to make the weight. So I do
think it's a very delicate situation for Brian Ortega and

(01:28):
if he's going to continue his career, he's going to
have to figure out some things.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
First thing that hit me was that Brian Ortega needs
to get new coaches, a new manager, everything. If you
go through that traumatic of a weightcut and a medical situation,
it is quite perplexing to me to think that the handlers,
the people around you, the people that are thinking clear

(01:54):
headed because they're not going through the weightcut, that these
people were still on the side of, yeah, let's find
a way to make this fight happen and make the
money while we're out here. I mean, we only went
through a very scary situation where you had to ice
down Brian and he wakes up in an emergency room.

(02:16):
Feels like more than enough reason to cancel the fight.
And just me, it would be like if the promotion,
the UFC medical staff knew that this incident happened, how
did the fight go on.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Here's a quote from Brian Ortega. I didn't feel good.
I wanted to call it off. I got up and
just walked outside. I almost passed out and fainted. Everything
in my body's telling me not to fight. Dude, should
not have fault. I agree with you wholeheartedly. It might
be time while you're reevaluating your fighting future, reevaluate who

(02:51):
you're associating yourself with, where you're training, who's cornering you,
because look, I get it, you have you know, you've
flown to another country, You've got all this stuff going on.
But at the end of the day, there is nothing
more important in this case than the health and safety
of Brian Ortega. And nobody put that first. And that's

(03:15):
a crying ass shame.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's a shame. They're supposed to be there to protect you,
to be with you, and what's a battle in this journey?
And it doesn't seem like anyone was there for Brian Ortega, especially,
no one was thinking clearheadedly. It's a sad situation. We
put a lot of the onus after the fight on
Brian Ortega, and right now I'm a little less hard

(03:42):
on Ortega because it's not like anybody was giving him
good advice that was around him. If this is the
way that things went down, and I can't imagine still
from just the principle of the structure of the UFC,
like you say said, do we want to use them again?
Is it possible to use them again? If you know

(04:04):
that a fighter was taken to the hospital and the
entire building knew. We knew on social media that somebody
was taken to the hospital. Their speculation was Brian Ortega,
it's a little far fetched that the UFC didn't know
what that the uf he didn't know what was going
on would be far fetched as it happened in the

(04:25):
hotel they were at, and to allow the fight to
go on also raise his eyebrows. Do they just say
he passed all the requisite medicals? What are we supposed
to do well?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
That would probably be there out Let me ask you this,
and I'm not alleging anything, but there are some dots
that have to be connected, and you have to wonder
if they come into play or take his opponent, al
Jermaine Sterling, Well, he and Ortega have something in common.
Do you know what that is?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
A manager?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
They have the same manager. Now again, I'm not alleging
it anything, but if that fight gets canceled, that's whatever
percentage manager gets from each fighter. That's a fellow fighter
in the same management company missing out on a payday
as well. So it's not just you. I wonder if

(05:18):
that played into whomever was making the decisions for Brian
Ortega whether to try to push through it and keep
this fight going.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
You make a really good point. Was it all about
Brian Ortega? Was there some thoughts of yourself? Is their
thoughts of al Jermaine Sterling, because now both of your
fighters are being screwed over. It is an interesting situation.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
And not just that, but maybe just Ortega himself was
thinking that. You know, even if manager, cornerman whatever weren't
pushing it, maybe Ortega was thinking that in the back
of his head, which again is why you need someone
there who's going to look out for the fighter's best interest,
because we talk about this all the time, with injuries
that happened during fight and things like that, you can't

(06:02):
depend on the fighter to say, no, I'm good, let's
story in the towel. That's why you have the corner
people there and in this situation with him passing out,
as he said repeatedly, unconscious for thirty minutes. You can't
allow this man to fight the next day. You just can't.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
So many people, from the coach, to the manager, to
the promotion to any medical physician that has all of
this knowledge, cannot sign off on allowing him to go fight.
To be unconscious, to have your body shut down on
you like that twenty four hours before a fight, so detrimental,

(06:41):
the depletion of nutrients that your body was going through.
We're not even fully sure what kind of battle his
body was undergoing at that point, but it feels very
irresponsible from all parties who have taken the short sighted
this of the fight is more important. The show must
go on.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, that's it. It's a rough situation. And look, something
else we've talked about a lot is the weight cuts,
and maybe it's better for the fighters to fight closer
to a more natural weight. We all know why they
don't do that. You want to get down as low
as you can so you can be as big as
possible in that weight class. The reality of the situation,

(07:22):
Brian Ortega can't continue these weightcuts. I think at this
point we can take this for as close to fact
as you possibly can. We've seen this numerous times over
his last scheduled fights. Does the fear of putting yourself
at a disadvantage by moving up in weight class? That

(07:42):
does that really carry that much weight among fighters and
their resistance to move up a weight class, move up
to weight classes, even though these weightcuts are just absolutely debilitating,
it would appear.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
So it'd be interesting if you're the fly on the
wall for that conversation to see why Brian Ortega's in
this position. He had talked about before being done with
forty five, and then he did do an interview and
it was kind of strange where he said, oh, there
was a fight we were looking at at fifty five

(08:18):
with a legend, but that didn't come to fruition until
we went about to forty five. I'm like, I'll raise
my hand real quick. There's one hundred and fifty guys
regularly in one hundred and fifty five pounds weight class
on the UFC roster. YEP. So it's a very very
strange comment from Brian Ortega.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
There was one fight I was willing to go to
fifty five for there's a whole world of fifty fighters
fifty five vers I'm going to go for one fight
up to one fifty five, and other than that, I
really am a forty five.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Except you can't make forty five. So now he realistically
has to assert himself as a fifty five. And this
is the kind of fight where you're saying, I think
they're going to try to use his name recuisition, but
it'd be best for Brian Ortaga if it's not ring competition.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
At this point, I think he probably needs a test
fight for him. I'm not saying it from the UFC perspective,
but for him at one fifty five, like you're saying,
an unraked opponent, whatever, go through the weight cut it
at one fifty five, see how your body does, see
how you perform, and then try to adjust from there.
But at this point, I don't think you can be

(09:29):
a one forty five er anymore. You just can't. You
can't make that weight.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
You can't make that weight, and let's be honest, he
has not performed well at that way since prior to
fighting Volkanovsky. I think for the title, even with the
win over right Rirodriguez, we're really talking about a full
performance people. He hasn't looked good cutting the weight and
performing at that weight in such a long time, it's

(09:56):
quite crazy for Brian Ortega. And I do like your
idea of a test fight almost kind of to me.
Would hearken to what we just did with Bryce Mitchell
taking on say Nrmaga Medav a guy that was just
outside the rankling of rankings, A really tough requisite test,
but a winnable fight to see if the weight class

(10:16):
was going to be appropriate. So I think that would
be the kind of matchup that the management team, in
the best interest of Brian Ortega, should be looking for.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Something else. I wanted to hit on Micah. We will
get to last week's fights. Don't worry, We'll get Yes,
we will get to Tania this week. Let's knock out
some news. John Jones reiterated over the weekend he was
at the MTV VMA Awards that he has not retired.
He's training for a fight at the White House next year.

(10:50):
Data White's beIN adamant. I can't trust John Jones to
votehim on the White House card. Let's set aside the
White House for a minute. Why did John Jones retire.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Because he's scared of Tom Aspital?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Why is John Jones coming back.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
To try not to fight tom in Aspinall.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Is it to not fight Tom Aspinall. Do you think
John Jones is coming back to fight Survey Spivak? You
think he's coming back to fight tay Too, I vasa.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I think he's coming back to make money. Well, I
don't think he's coming back for a specific name or
a specific goal, because if there was one, it'd be
all right, I'm fighting Tom Aspinall. There's no Tom Aspinall talk.
There's just White House talk, right, there's color McGregor talk
from John Jacks.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
See that's my point, all right, if you're coming back
for the money, there's still only one fight, and that's Aspinall.
It ain't Jounton Almeida, it ain't Curtis Blades. Look. I
understand you get to a point in your career there
are certain fights you're looking for, and there's certain fights

(12:07):
that aren't adventurous to you. I do get that, and
John is in that place. So I understand if he
truly feels like Aspinall would do nothing for his legacy,
I'm sorry, but fighting Talis and to share at the
White House ain't doing shit for your legacy. Either, so
you're either saying I just want to fight at the

(12:28):
White House, or all right, if it was at the
White House, I'll fight Aspinall. To me, you retired for
less than a week and gave up your title. You
don't get Aspenall, not without taking a couple of fights,
or that ship has sailed. Your opportunity to fight Tom
Aspinall has passed, and there are other things Dana White

(12:50):
and the USC can rely on for not booking him
at the White House, if that's ultimately what they decide
to do. But the reality of the situation is you
walked away, and look, you had your reasons. Maybe they
were valid. I'm not disputing that, but you don't turn
around less than six days later because there's talk of
a putting on a car to the White House and saying, oh,

(13:12):
you know what, never mind, I'm back all of a sudden,
I'll take that fight. No, you walked away from that opportunity.
You've got to go back and earn it.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I don't see them making him earn it. I don't
think we're going to get pay per views fight nights,
like you said with John Jones, Jayelton Almeida, John Jones
Derek Lewis, it's almost a waste of John Jones for
the UFC if they're not just trying to force this
one fight to happen, and if John's not inclined to

(13:45):
make the one fight happen, which after UFC three twenty
one could really, strangely just be a rematch of Surreal Gone,
which I'm sure John Jones would jump all at. Maybe
all this Tom Aspinall talk goes away, we have a
fight in October that makes a lot more consequence to

(14:06):
this conversation than fuck all of what John Jones wants
or what we think they're gonna do with him. Okay,
because everything could change after UFC three twenty one, But
doesn't that.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Make it worse if Sereal Gon beats Aspinall, Because look again,
John Jones had the right, and I don't necessarily disagree
with him if the idea is well, look, I don't
know that Aspinall really ads to my legacy. Why do
I want that fight? First of all, there's no other
heavyweight in the UFC. This's gonna add to your legacy.
So this is gonna be a problem no matter what.

(14:39):
So location aside beating Cereal Gone ain't gonna make Tom
Aspinall more appealing for John's legacy. God forbids Sereal Gone
work to beat Tom Aspinall, and Jones is like, damn right,
I want my damn title back. I'm fighting Cereal Gone.
You've already beat the fuck out of Cereal Gone again.

(15:03):
Even if John is correct in his thinking and I'm
not necessarily disputing it, the perception is he didn't want
to fight Aspinall for whatever reason, and oh look now
here's Surreal Gone. Damn right, I want to fight him.
Or if you're gonna give me a shit ton of
money and let me fight it at the White House,
I'll bite the bullet and fight Aspiral. I don't think
it's a good look for John Jones, regardless of his intentions,

(15:25):
and I don't know how you can reward that. But again,
and to your point, when you talk about theaweight division
right now, it ain't like there's a lot of marquee
names there. Maybe the UFC would be in line to say,
all right, you fucked this, you walked away, you agree
to the fight, you decided you're gonna retire. You unretired
six days later after you gave up the belt. We'll

(15:46):
give you the damn title match. Come fight at the
White House. Maybe that does happen, if there's any way
around it, and I were in charge, I'm not rewarding
John Jones for walking away and retiring for less than
a week. I can't do that, not without getting a
fight or two first. Again, there's business stuff that comes
into play here, Micah and all that, But I just

(16:08):
think if you truly believe you're the greatest of all time,
and John may very well be, this ain't what the
greatest of all time does. It's just not you take
the fight, regardless of legacy, because that's who's next.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Everyone plays promotional horror ball. Islam Mahashev, you know, didn't
have a really great actual title run. He beat two
diyes on short notice and never took on a number
one contender. Promotionally negotiate his way into power. Everyone plays
ball in their own way. John Jones a bad look.

(16:45):
John Jones doesn't care about a bad look. And you
know that recent charges dismissed everybody from what was alleged
to be a slam dunk on another kind of automobile
accident run away from the scene of that that's all
gone away now literally gotten away. Now. We don't know why.
I just don't see the UFC making John Jones fight

(17:06):
random fights. I don't see John Jones really fighting random fights.
And maybe he does get to fight in June at
the White House, but he's probably fighting in January on
the first CBS card to make that happen. You're right,
they're gonna make Hi murder it in some way. But
the desert is so dry out here that I don't
know if we waste a event to put John Jones

(17:29):
against Derek Lewis in a non title fight to be
a de facto number one contender about or anti Dilia
gets John Jones. Also, I didn't know John Jones was
so big this week. I didn't know he said anything.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, yeah, you should check out the do sometimes. Okay,
let's say you do fight John Jones at the White
House and it's against the winner of Aspinall Gone. For
the sake of the conversation, let's assume its Aspinall. Then
what John wins gets his title back, You're right the
fuck back where you were before. If you're the UFC,

(18:07):
there's John. There's nobody that can build to his legacy,
So you drag shit out, throwing stupid money at him
to fight Marcine Ty Burro or Curtis Blades or whomever,
and ultimately he doesn't do it. Look legacy be Look,
whatever the UFC does is going to be successful with
or without John. Now, is it a little sweeter if

(18:28):
John's there? Of course it is. But you don't have
to have John Jones, just like you don't have to
have Carter McGregor or anybody else. Why put yourself through that? Again,
if you're the organization knowing how this is going to play.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Out, who says they're going to He's not booked right now,
right right, right now, he's talking. They're not talking. They're
just saying they're not booking him on the card he wants.
So maybe you're right, maybe they're not in the John
Jones business, because all signs would point to they're not
in the John Jones business. Because John's Jones directive is
to fight in June, not July. We've now found out

(19:01):
in June it's gonna be at the White House. That
is not the UFC's directive. And the UFC is not
talking about John Jones in a light that gets him
back into a heavyweight title fight. John Jones is talking
about the UFC. I didn't see Dana White talking about
John Jones. No one's talking about the heavyweight division. We're
only talking about Tom Aspinall when it comes to the

(19:25):
heavyweight division, and possibly another guy a little later in
the show if we get to UFC France. But John
Jones is the one talking. No one is talking about
him from the UFC side.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Very true, very But again, look, despite everything I just said,
the allure of booking John Jones is pretty damn strong
because of his legacy, the very thing he was trying
to protect by not wanting to fight Aspenall. So I
mean again, I get it. I don't think it's as
cut and dry as oh, he was scared to this

(20:00):
person or that person. I don't believe John Jones is
scared of anything. I do think John Jones was trying
to protect his legacy. I also think he's earned that
right and he's not necessarily wrong that. All Right, I
go out and beat Aspinall. I don't know how that
improves my legacy. You really got to make this worth
my while. But my point is there's nobody left on
the fucking roster that's going to add to John Jones's

(20:21):
legacy right now. So you're always going to be in
that situation. So why retire and then decide to come
back six days later?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Your question is more of a mystery that we can't
answer because we don't know what change from John Jones' perspective,
Because what we do know from Aria Hawane the money
was there. I always thought the money wasn't there. If
the money wasn't there, that was the best reason I'll
walk away, right And you can say protecting your legacy,
I'm gonna translate that into the same thing that I

(20:51):
said before. He's scared to get in the octagon with John.
With Tom aspinall you can say that's because John Jones
is scared to lose his legacy. He not literally scared
of the man, but that man equivalates that fear of
losing that legacy because he's that big of a danger.
So I take it as for the first time ever,

(21:11):
John Jones was scared of another man.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
See, I wouldn't go that far. But maybe I'm not
saying you're wrong. I'm just saying I wouldn't go that far.
But I mean, well, look maybe because maybe if I
say he's looking up for his legacy and he's looking
for legacy building fights, if he didn't want this fight,
maybe we're both right just looking at it from different ways.

(21:38):
He was scared this wasn't gonna do anything for his legacy,
and God forbid he loses. So all right, maybe I'm
good with that. Let me ask you this, did you have?
Is Ronda Rowsey coming back on your MMA bingo card?
That conversation to come up this week because I ain't
gonna lie, I did.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Not you mean the Queen if I'm concussed. No, all
the outlining of the damage that she suffered in her
career that was very outlined in her own words in
a book, I would never expect to see Ronda Rousey
even the professional wrestling world again because I'd be scared

(22:20):
of her taking physical damage.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
And a podcast interview, I honestly think this is much
ado about nothing, but let's play it out. She was
asked about the UFC at the White House and which
she participated. She said, I'm not fighting at the White House.
I mean after Mike Tyson being the biggest fight of
the year, you can never say never on return on

(22:44):
a return, but I ain't fighting on the fucking White House.
What I take from that. If somebody's gonna throw me
stupid money and put me on Netflix or whatever, I'll
entertain the idea, because why the hell wouldn't you, But
hell no, I'm not going. I'm back, and I'm damn
sure not coming back just to fight at the White House.
I think she says something about my kids need pasta.

(23:07):
Uh so to me that this is kind of a
nothing conversation, but for whatever reason, it's gaining a lot
of traction, so I felt like we should throw it
out there. I'm with you. When her book came out,
it talked about concussions and head injuries and things like that.
I don't see her ever coming back unless it is
some sort of Tyson Paul esque spectacle something like that. Again,

(23:32):
somebody's gonna throw that kind of stupid money at you,
you're gonna at least listen to the conversation otherwise, I
do truly believe she is retired.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I did a podcast this past weekend with ray Borg
I am really lacking and asking people about if they
want to fight at the White House. This is just
like totally not on my dumb podcast or a question
to ask everybody? Fuck me, I'm behind on you stupid
lazy people. Shit, would you want to fight at the
White House?

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Would you want to fight?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, look, if you had a bunch of money, would
you want to get paid it? Yes?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
In your defense, Ray boy would never have made weight,
So it's okay. Sorry Ray, but you know, Oh, tell
me I'm wrong, Micah, tell me I'm wrong. I love Ray.
I'm sorry that was dirty.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
But no.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I don't know why the hell they asked her that,
I whatever, But yeah, there it is Ronda Rousey being
asked about fighting again and not closing the door but
not really opening it either, and people just run with it.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm surprised she's out doing podcasts.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Uh, well, I mean every now and again. Yeah, you'll
like people to remember you.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I guess, I guess so, I guess. So. I just
didn't know she was getting out of the farm and
getting traction in that way. Well, you know, she probably
didn't leave the farm to do the podcast, right, Yeah,
it's probably a yeah, yeah, I'm sure or something like that.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
All right, let's get to Uh. Last week, Mike at
UFC was in Paris for a it feels weird calling
him fight Nights right there in the middle of the day,
But for a fight night in mav Off, Man Nazardena
and mav Off unanimous decision over Kyle Bahaalo. What'd you

(25:24):
think about the main event?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I thought that Kyle Bohalo looked like he could never
get his gears together, and it looked like Nasardinea Mavov
was able to establish himself and put the fight in
the perspective that he wanted to. He was owning the
fight and able to push Kyo back. He had the handspeed,
he was able to do the damage. I was a

(25:49):
little surprised when we got to the scorecards that we
had fifty forty five. Yeah, really surprised about that one
and forty nine to forty six is I went actually
forty eight forty seven. I gave the third and felt
like Imovov took the foot off the gas and Kyle
was trying a little more in the fifth, so I
had it three to two definitely, though felt like Imalvov

(26:13):
did much more damage in the rounds that he won.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I didn't have a problem with the scorecards. I get
where you're coming from as well. I don't think there
was any doubt who the winner is. It was just
going to be how the scorecards came out. So yeah,
no issues there for me one way or the other.
But the reality is Imovov. I mean, I guess we

(26:37):
got to give him the credit. I don't know how
much of that was Bahallo, like you said, just not
being able to get out of first gear. But Imavov
did everything he needed to do and for the most
part really kind of made it look easy.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Well that's the part that damned him, is that he
made it look so easy. He didn't go for it.
And that's the biggest problem here. When you were applying
this was a job interview, this was a quarter final,
this was a semi final. Man, you had to put
a stamp on this fight to make yourself undeniable. And

(27:13):
now there is all so much room open for the
rendered day Rider Anthony Hernandez fight. Not just the fight,
but the winner has a big enough performance and you're like, hello,
I am entertaining all those French motherfuckers that were on
their feet, cheering, loving their countrymen that just won. That

(27:33):
is a great Sala's point. I don't know if it's
a big enough fan base yet to counter what was
a lackluster performance. You shut down Kyo's takedowns, You were
able to be the aggressor, but did you really ever
go for it? There were moments in the pocket when
they exchanged and he Mavov showed his dominance, but he

(27:55):
didn't keep on the gas. He didn't go after Kyo
to finish him.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I think part of the problem here is after the fight,
you're looking back and like, well, was Bahallow really a
big enough opponent for imav Off here to try to
make his case for being next for a title shot
in the first just and maybe that's not fair, but
just based on how the fight played out. But yes,
I was going to ask you other than im avav

(28:23):
for winning the fight, biggest win for a middleweight over
the weekend, the winner of our dr versus Hernandez or
Sean Strickland because and I know I keep throwing Strickland
in the mix, just because Sean Kent talk his way
into most anything. But the reality is the opportunity is
there for someone else to stake the claim for I'm

(28:45):
next for Jim If.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
That is the reality of the situation, a Mavov, will
you feel like five wins all in the top ten
two finishes. Of those wins, you would be undeniable, but
you are not. The better case for a title shot
was actually the win over out of Sonia.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
That's what made this kind of a weird circumstance that
even had to take this fight. You beat a world
champion in more dominant, decisive fashion, so it felt like
the pathway was open free Mavov. It's kind of now
narrowed a bit because this was unentertaining, and to a point,

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you have to fall in Mavov for.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Not going after it.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
His lack of aggression, his hand speed was great, the
way that he was able to manage and control the fight,
all of that was on point, but it was that
extra factor that there needed to be to wow the matchmakers.
I don't think we got that. And there's also the
sub narrative of we both agree Ajolo cannot get out

(29:50):
of first gear? Was that due to the idiotic move.
Sean Strickland pointed out on social media two weight cuts
in a couple of weeks. What are you doing to
your stuff ahead of such a big fight. I didn't
take it into account when I first saw it, but
there's a lot of people speaking up about it. Now
in hindsight, the caliary depletion and how bad that is

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for your body to two times in four weeks.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I have no idea why he would do that. It
certainly didn't help. Let's put it that way. Imavov gets
to win your co main event, Ben was Saint Denise
submits Mauricio Ruffy. What'd you think of that one?

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I think that Bahaio did himself no favorites with the
wake up, but they had to have paid him a
lot of money real quick. Before we get away from it.
Does a Mavov have to fight another fight before he
gets a title fight? Not saying he's the next one
to fight Team I have, but saying, will his next
fight be a title fight?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
No, he's gonna have to think he does one more. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I can almost see a scenario where he sits out
for like a year and gets a really bad opportunity
but gets jumped over by the Dr Hernandez winner and
kind of backdoors into a title shot where he's the
last one there and on a win streak after that fight.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, just remember, dupless A isn't going anywhere. Uh Now,
I get it. He's coming off a loss, he's gonna
have to put a win under his belt as well.
But you know, it's not just waiting to see how
the winner of RDR Hernandez plays out against chim Iv.
You've got other guys that are up there as well,

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So that that's why I think he's going to have
to fight again.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Second biggest middleweight winner of the weekend, I don't think
it was RDR Hernandez. It was Anderson Silva. Dude banked
over ten million dollars from that UFC lawsuit. Yeah, biggest
win of the weekend for a middleweight. That was Anderson Silva.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Probably the biggest win he's had in twenty years. But
I digres him. Yeah, I digress, all right, sat Deany
gets the submation went over ruughy.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Benjo Saint Denis found a way to improve in facets
that I did not think you to be able to.
He surprised Marusio. Oh when I heard it's hoofi? Now
is the correct pronunciation hoofy? Yeah? He I guess he
found out that Rufian people in the US was not
gonna be a good one. I guess now you finally laugh, Okay,

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But Ben was Satany channeled his aggression into being able
to surprise. We knew that there would be the aggression.
It seemed like the minute the bodykick landed, though, the
shock and dismay disrupted the entire game plan and the
visualization of how this was going to play out from
UFI was disrupted, and from that moment on, the aggression

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was able to be utilized from Benoi Satany, who had
a more thoughtful entry and awareness to what he was doing.
It looked like he was still the same guy, but
there wasn't herky jerkiness in the middle. There was a
efficientness towards the game plan of heading into the brawl,

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of getting the fight to the ground, and you knew
everything was lost for Hoofie, at least I did. When
you reverse position and you stand up two times, you
have Ben was Singtony on his back, and if there's
any grappling worth your salt in your game, you had
to take advantage of that position. When on the feet
it wasn't going well for you. You're getting backed up, put

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on the cage and put on your back. All of
a sudden you put ben was Saintany on his back,
and all you can do is stand up. That was
a bad look for Marous Hoofy, who looks to have
been much overblown, but that's hard to say when he
knocked out a guy like King Green. Yeah, I know
we don't like the name, but King Green feels like
a real requisite test. And now we just got a

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huge audit against Hoofy. That makes most of the media
feel foolish, but we were there, we saw some of
the knockouts. It didn't feel like this was a flash
in the van. I am marvel though. Now at the
adjustment and the way that Ben was, Singtony was able
to lament them into his game because that was ruthfully efficient.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
What do you see next for Saint Denis.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Thinking probably a guy that we like a lot, possibly
been Neil Darush.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I don't hate that fight. I don't know what that
does for dary USh, but I don't see him fighting
up right now either. So yeah, he'd like to, but
that's just the problem.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I don't think they give it to him. Maybe you
tell Saint Denis, hey, it's hard off of a finish
like that, though a rear naked choke to say, now
you need to fight Grant Dawson. If it was the
more boring fight or finished. Maybe you're still fighting down,
but I think the the atmosphere, the kind of victory
that BSD got, it makes you it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
It probably didn't get you what you wanted. So yeah,
I don't I don't hate that fight Daryusha and Rufie.
We'll see how that plays out. Michael, what else on
this card stood out to you?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Man? This was one of the biggest fight nights I
could ever fly under the radar. If you're some asshole
that just wanted to like blow over this card like
there wasn't a lot that happened that, there wasn't a
lot that was special on there. Oh my god, Modessa's
mkowskis is gonna get a top fifteen fight. I mean,
you have Alex Sola jumping up on like four days

(35:24):
notice to make his UFC debut. The amount of nerves
and pressure that kid had to be in to get
a TKO stoppage. That was a monumental win for him.
Mason Jones and Blagi Okie, what the heck was that?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
That was a war?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Okie puts Jones on his ass and somehow Jones actually
got up. I thought the fight was like check right there,
we're about to be check Mayton over. Jones gets back
up his own knockdown and then just becomes a dog.
Was there one of those that stood out for you
just on that main card of what else there was
besides the main event and the co main event, because

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between Bolkowskas and Jones, I thought those were some great performances.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
The Jones makowskis uh, just because of who the opponent was.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Ah, that was the most devastating elbow I've seen a
lot in the on the ground in a long time.
Like that one elbow is eight million times the amount
of damage that Hamza Team I have did to Dacre's Duke,
plus the in twenty five minutes of domination. That one
blow was more dominating, more devastating.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, no, it was. Here's my and I hate to
trash talk a fighter, but Paul Craig's last eight fights
six losses, a win and a no contest.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Eh.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I understand the finished kind of leads from the competition,
but still that's what you do when you have a
position on the ground, you end the fight emphatically and now.
And that was also a fight between unranked competitors, so
that really does justify the thought that Modesta's bokowskis Alonso

(37:17):
menifield A. I'm trying to think about who else there was,
but somewhere there at thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, Yeah, those last
couple names. I think this earns him that kind of opportunity.
We're talking about four wins in the light heavyweight division.
This division isn't that deep. Two more wins and Modeska's
bokowskis is right in the mix for a world title fight.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yep, Nope. Then look, that's fair point. That's a fair point.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Anything about right yeah, well, talking about right on the
mix for a title fight, this was the one that
I had like highlighted and greening. Aunte Delia steam rolls
Marcine Tiberi. No one steam rolls Marsine Tibera. Not saying
he's a world beater, but he's a gatekeeper for a reason.
He is number seven in the world for a reason,

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because the guys that beat him fighting for the world title,
the guys that can't, he's holding them at bay Dalia.
I did not see that coming from a former PFL fighter.
Runs in, runs through and unlikely enough. You give him
a Surgey Pavlich after this one, and depending on what
John Jones wants to do if he's retired or not,

(38:24):
Dealah's one fight one went away from a world title fight.
It's ridiculously consequential what he did on the prelims.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Oh what has happened to the heavyweight division?

Speaker 2 (38:34):
That is unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
But it's not to undersell how.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Big of a win that was because of the ranking.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
No, no, you look, you're one hundred percent right. Yeah,
that'll be interesting for sure.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Three more real quick, Sam Patterson. It's a four fight
win streak. They're all first round finishes. He called out
Neil Magni. I think he deserves that kind of fight.
It doesn't have to be Neil, but a name we
recognize four knockouts in a row obviously deserves that stop
up in competition. Sam Hughes wins three in a row.
She should probably get to fight somebody there at the

(39:06):
bottom of the tap fifteen, we're talking about Tisha Pennington,
Lomolach Boome, Denise Gomes. Give Sam Hughes that kind of
opportunity and Ronit Freckerdinov. I don't know what to do
with him because he's now five to zero to one
in the UFC, but that might have been one of
the lower quality wins. Talking about caliber of opponent. We
understand that Andreas Gussisen brought the aggression, but this is

(39:30):
a guy that's already beat Brian Battle and Kevin Lee.
I think some of the previous wins might have been better.
So I'll be interested to see what the UFC does
with Rennette, someone that they obviously don't believe has that
upper bound potential. Yeah, Lar, I'm finally done talking about UFC.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Paris got you, Okay, cool cool coop.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Look, I enjoyed the fight night. I thought it was good.
Of course, UFC back at it this Saturday there in
San Antonio for note Cha. We will talk about that
coming up in just a little bit. What else do
we have this past weekend, Micah.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Well, you have at LFA two sixteen, Oziah Bertolo pulls
off a second round arm bar, her second arm bar
of her career, fifth submission win, gets the LFA women
strawweight title. Natalia Olvis with the rear naked choke, improves
to eight and on the card. Both of those ladies
you can see them on the Contender series very soon

(40:26):
BKB this past weekend. I'm sure you saw it on
X Daniel Lowell with the highlight of the event putting
out UFC vent Jack Marshman. That one was a nasty combination.
I believe it's the right hook and all the flurry
that really did the devastation to take out Marshman. And
a shout out to James Connelly getting a victory in

(40:48):
the main event on short notice. You had some barn knuckle,
you had some mma. We got a whole bunch of
fine announcements. If you're ready for those two, go for it.
Evan Elder is out of UFC Perth Tom Nolan will
now be taking on Charlo Charlie Campbell. Thats September twenty seventh.
That is Remember we got not this weekend, a weekend
off UFC to Paris hitting this international field, because originally

(41:11):
this was gonna be Guadalajara. This was gonna be a
month without the UFC touching American soil until we had
the little change of venue to San Antonio Punos Soriano
versus Nikola I ver Tennakoff is added to the UFC
three twenty card October fourth. Kyle Nelson will fight Matt
Ravola and Cody Gibson is taking on Arichi Lang that

(41:34):
Is UFC Vancouver, October eighteenth. Matthews Rebecki a quick turnaround
to take on Ludwick Klein UFC three twenty one. October
twenty fifth. Dante Johnson UFC debut is gonna come against
Nick Klein on November one. Austin Bashi versus jamal Emers,
Dara Zelenakova versus Lana Santos. Additions to the November eighth

(41:58):
fight Night in Vegas. Alex Petes is fighting Awesome Alabia
and Felipe Lima versus Daniel Marcos both added to the
UFC Quitar event November twenty second and the last one.
Islan Is Is Lossendo always mess up her first name,

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taking on Jillian robertson December thirteenth. The UFC in Vegas card.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
This Saturday, Mike Allegiance Stadium in Las Vegas, Mexican Independence Day.
Canelo Alvarez Terrence Crawford. Crawford moving up two weight classes,
looking to become the first men's boxer to become an
undisputed champion in three weight classes in the four belt era.
Of course, Gloris the Shields has already done that on
the women's side. But what do you think about Crawford

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and Canelo this Saturday.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I'm yawning, I'm waking up from my nap like normal
for Canelo fight and saying he wins a very disputed
decision because he is a judges darling who has miraculously
four maybe five times in his career missed that Okham's
razor of a loss and somehow gotten it when we

(43:17):
didn't think it was gonna happen. I think Canelo is
probably too big and too strong as the natural one
sixty eight er to get hurt by Crawford. And you
literally have to hurt Canelo many times in a fight
to garner any respect from the judges, as we saw
with bibbll.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I was gonna say, I almost think Crawford has to
knock him out because a close fight that goes to
the judges is probably, like you said, is probably going
Canelo's way.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Anything that goes to the decision is going Canelo's way.
It's been that way since the Miguel Coto fighter, the
Austin Trout fight. There's been a there's been quite a
few of them throughout his history of things falling in
favor for Canello, who he has an iron chin. Even
taking those big shots from Bibl, he can go down.
I fail to see a path where Crawford is able

(44:10):
to be a bigger puncher than Bibel. So that leads
me to think that we're going to see a unsatisfactory
decision go in the Alvarez favor.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Canelo a minus one seventy five favorite, Terrence Crawford a
plus one forty underdog. For those who are interested in
such things, I'm actually surprised Canelo is not a little
bit bigger favorites. Just the size difference, if nothing else,
I mean, set everything else aside. Just the size difference.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
The boxing talent, the speed, the angles, everything that you
normally dissect in the fight, the attributes that you would
look at. I think they really do fall in favor
of Terrence Crawford, except for when you say Canello knows
how to win these big fights. Canello is the big
fight darling. They kind of just seem to fall in

(45:01):
his favor, and he is the guy with the more
natural aptitude to this weight class. Going up to weights.
It's not like we saw a thunderous puncher from Crawford
at fifty four. So I think he may win, or
he may land better. He may look more strategically better,
he may be cleaner. I just don't think that the

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punches that are gonna matter to the judges are going
to be landed by Crawford.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Now this one is on Netflix on Saturday night. I
can only assume that's going to make a difference in
the number of eyeballs catching this being on Netflix versus
traditional pay per view.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Oh yeah, they're gonna have multiple millions of people, where
if this was a traditional pay per view model, I'm
guessing you got a million or two. But now that
you have the aptitude to count globally, it's gonna be
some staggering numbers. But this will I say staggering numbers.

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This is gonna fail in comparison, maybe behalf of what
Tyson Paul did.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
You're probably not wrong on that, And that's a cry
in Shane. What else have we got this weekend? Micah?
Before we get to notche.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Well, real quick boxing is dead in America. And this
is the point where I dispute if Jake Paul ever
did anything good for boxing, because I don't think that
many fights can compare with Tyson Paul and I feel

(46:39):
like there are many things in other markets that would
draw big for those markets. I don't think that you're
gonna see the American market care about this fight.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
This fight may Maybe you don't think there's anything bigger
than Tyson Paul, not even at least.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Are the current fans right a boxing stead.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Bull effing shite. Just last week, right after we got
through recording, it was announced Mike Tyson Floyd Mayweather now
is gonna be some sort of convoluted exhibition. But you
don't think that's gonna draw the same type of people
who watch Tyson Jake Paul. Now Again, is that good
for boxing? Does that help boxing? That's probably debatable, but

(47:25):
it's certainly gonna help Paul and I help Tyson and
Floyd Mayweather in the pocketbook. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
They didn't announce the venue, they didn't announce a date,
they didn't announce a promoter, if, they didn't announce the
sanctioning body, They didn't announce any of the requisite entities. Basically,
what Tyson and Mayweather did with say hey, we're willing
to do an exhibition together. If somebody will pay for
it and promote it and broadcast it. They don't have

(47:52):
any of those things in line or set up.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
And you don't think somebody's gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
I think you will, but I think it'll fail. It
be in comparison as big as Jake Paul, because I
don't think that either one of them are a darling.
I think that Floyd Mayweather has not done a lot
in his post boxing career with these exhibitions, with Melee's,
with John Gotti, with Meyles, with the Yakuzin Ryzin. I

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don't think he's done anything to endear himself, to make
him more beloved by an American boxing audience that has
seen now what you can get from a this age
Mike Tyson, which was really unspectacular. That's why I failed
to see it drawing as much attention as Jake Paul,

(48:39):
who kids have talked themselves into caring about.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
All Right, well, hell if we're gonna keep talking about boxing.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
The Jake Paul Javonta Davis fight scheduled for November fourteenth
in Atlanta. Yeah, maybe that happens, Maybe it doesn't, the
head of the Georgia Athletic and Entertainment Commission said, quote,
this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard, and this
is the guy who has to approve this. Now it

(49:06):
won't be just up to him. I'm guessing money talks, bullshit, walks,
dumbest shit I've ever heard, or not. This probably gets approved,
but there is going to be at least a little
bit of pushback on this fight happening in the state
of Georgia.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Boxing is dead in America. The biggest boxing events that
happen are guys that are retired or influencers that are
in opposite weight class. So I don't think that Canelo
versus Crawford is gonna be a resurgence for the sport
that it needs. And I don't know what any promoter

(49:44):
is going to do to save this landscape where untraditional
spectacles draw more than the hierarchy of real, meaningful title fights.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
It is all about the spectacles, for better or for worse.
I can't disagree with you on that, Micah. All right,
what else this weekend before we get the no check?

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Well, this weekend you are going to have a couple
things going on. On Friday night, we have LFA up
in Prior Lake Minnesota co main event. There's that yet
to debut professional grappler Gable Stevenson taking on Braden Peterson,

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who is one to Oh you know the guys with
the same records of these two that they're on the prelims,
So expect to see Gable Stevenson's wrestling be on display
is he debuts in MMA. You get Mitch McKee Pedro
Norbray McKee nine and zero in the main event. Norbray
thirty two to five vet fought for the WEC. Really

(50:51):
good test as McKee looks to grab the attention of
the UFC. Also on Friday Night, you get BKFC eighty Hollywood, Florida,
Leonardo Perdomo Arnold Adams two. Maybe this one produces the
next heavyweight number one contender. Fuck who knows Perdomo already
beat Adams and he still didn't get a fucking file fight,

(51:12):
So what the fuck they're doing? I don't know. With
that BKFC bout, Perdomo still with the win over Adams,
but they just want to run it back to make
sure Adams. Traditional boxer Perdomo thunder Najar, who is hard
to contain and I mean even from him running around
the ring after the fight causing chaos. Last time co
main event another head scratcher, Gary Fox, the BKFC European

(51:36):
Champion who they had at their Champion summit, facing off
with Kai Stewart, telling us he was gonna fight Kay Stewart. Well,
he's fighting Edgar Paulazzola on Beaten five and Oh Floridian
in a I guess title eliminator. Your guests would be
as good as mine. What the fuck they're gonna do
with Kai Stewart and his featherweight title. Next, also on
the card, you get the BKFC debut Joel Romero. He

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is fighting at heavyweight and obviously with a renowned name
like this, with an incredible veteran who has stormed through Bellatore,
the UFC, Strike Force, even dirty boxing. A guy like this,
no breaks, all gas, all ferocity, huge name. He will
be taking on Theo duckas I don't know who the

(52:23):
fuck that is either. So I'm saying what I'm saying.
If you know what I'm saying, it's gonna be a
good night for Joel Romero. If you know what I'm saying,
you're not.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Really selling this BKFC card.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Micah Kevin Ferguson Junior. Baby Slice is gonna make his
BKFC debut taking on a friend from down the road.
He'll be taking on the Rage Derek Petez Derek eight
fight that this is actually quite the challenge for a
Baby Slice who he's not exactly known to throw out
hands like his dad. He was a wrestler in MMA,

(52:56):
and now he gets Derek Petez, who, if anything else,
is a dog and has a lot more boxing experience.
Top prospect to be on the watch for on the card.
Also Bobby Henry, the little brother of Brice Henry on
the card, and Chris Garcia will also be taking on
from over the Mountain from Moriarty, New Mexico. Austin lewis

(53:17):
another local getting on the BKFC card, So we'll see
what happens Friday night there from the Seminole Hard Rock
in Florida. That heavyweight fight should be spectacular. I just
don't understand why we're doing the rematch, and no one's
really said why.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Well, there you go, not cha UFC this Saturday, Frost
Bank Center, San Antonio, Texas your main event Brazil versus
Brazil for not Cha UFC Diego Lopez Jeane Silva number two,
number ten in the featherweights. What do you think.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Diego Lopez is a Guadalajatta resident. He has taken jiu
jitsu to that part of Mexico and been there with
his like warriors.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
I had Mexican food last night. That doesn't make me Mexican.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
No, but we only live in New Mexico, not in Mexico.
He actually lives in Mexico for a decade.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
All right, I've been eating Mexican food for well over
a decade.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Just saying centain way for noce, which you already told
me was inappropriate when I said, it's not so noch och, it's.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
No che light.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
So this is Medillo light.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I don't It's is Corona Premiere versus regular Corona. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
But Diego Lopez Keen Selva in the main event. You
want to give him some betting ods?

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Uh, you have to give me a minute to dig
him up. Look, regardless of what card this is on,
this is gonna be a hell of a fight. Though
I hate hating on the fight. No, we're not.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Hating on the fight. We love this one. It is
a huge step up in competition for Jean Silva, who
has answered all the questions so far in dunhaman spectacular fashion.
We know he has a nasty ninja choke. He has
this composure employees thunderoust strikes. His heavy handedness is incredible.
He has almost a playfulness on the feet that makes

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you think he fucks around. He's gonna find out one day.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
If I told you Diego Lopez was a plus two
twenty underdog, would you believe me?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:36):
And if I told you Gene Silva was a minus
two sixty favorite, would you believe me?

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Shit, that's high. I would not put money at Gen
Silva at that rate.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Well, there you go. Those are your odds for the
for you main event?

Speaker 2 (55:49):
There how much? Well, okay, we'll get to the physical
real quick. Geene Silva, he's probably the faster guy. I
think we're going with the better hands to be the
better boxing. A bit lackadaisical in defense, but I believe
that's because he believes so much. In his eyes. I
believe he feels everything, sees everything coming. He has some
of the best eyes in the featherweight division. Does that

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counteract when a guy like Diego Lopez is willing to
get in the pocket and brawl with you. But what
makes Diego so fun is what also is the detrimental.
He'll give one to take one. He'll get in the
pocket to be wild, and I don't know if Jean
silv is the guy to take one with. The X
factor is what happens when we get to the ground.
We talk about for the last ten years, bringing it

(56:35):
up again, Diego Lopez living in Mexico showing the art
of Brazilian jiu jitsu. He has a requisite black belt
that is a real black belt, that is a level higher,
I believe than Jean Silva. On the ground, we've seen
kind of some issues with the grappling for the fighting nerds.
We don't know what Jean Silva is gonna look like,
but we did see him defend the wrestling against Bryce Mitchell,

(56:58):
and I don't know matter how much wrestling that Diego
Lopez does with Oklahoma State, if he's really going to
get to that level or he can really match a
Bryce Mitchell, and Jean Silv has already been able to
handle that kind of test. I think that Gene Silver
probably does win this fight, but it feels like if
too many of us just all feel that Jean silver

(57:20):
is gonna win. This is exactly the kind of fight
where Diego Lopez is going to be able to do
something and pull something out to get the victory. I
say that because normally with the prospect you want to
drag them into deep waters. I don't think I love
the cardio on either guy. Though, I don't love the
cardio on either guy.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
But I do love Geen Silva in this fight. But
we'll see.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
He has to land something hard, he has to land early.
I think it's gonna be the counter striking. You make
that aggression a a issue, a hindrance for Diego Lopez.
You make him board and make him come in and
force the fight, and then you're able to unload with
your power. That's got to be the plan if your gene,
if you're Diego Lopez, got to kick those fucking legs.

(58:03):
I'm guessing you got to take away some of that
power in that base so you can get on the
inside and make this more of a wrestling match. But
then I wanted to get to the psychological side. How
much pressure did Jean Silva put on himself after what
he just saw happened to Kyle Bihalio and Marussio Hoofy
in France. He now has to welcome that whole Fighting

(58:25):
Nerds team to San Antonio, and he looked utterly freaking uncomposed,
just unhinged in the reaction video to whof he's lost?

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Is he there?

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Is he putting too much pressure on himself this Saturday
to reclaim the glory of the Fighting Nerds already as
they may be falling off after being a trendy flavor.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
One card does not ruin a fight team. Usually, I'm
gonna say, no, he's not feeling that pressure. He's gonna
go out and do what he does, and I think
he gets it done.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
He's emotional, He's an emotional man. I just wouldn't leave
it out of the hand of cards to say does
that emotion play against Gene Solova out a point cole
main event. This is a tricky one. Rob Font still there,
Roul Rosaus is no longer there. David Martinez, nice counter striker,
he had one spectacular knockout in the UFC and the

(59:24):
Cambate America's former champion is getting an opportunity at the
top ten. This feels like too big of a bite.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
It does, but there is something about him coming in
on short notice that I think gives him a little
bit of an advantage. Rob Font still your betting favorite
and minus one forty five Martinez a plus one twenty
five underdog. I think I would say I think fonts
just a better fighter, but I there is something about

(59:54):
Martinez short notice. Font's not gonna have had a lot
of time to prepare for him. I do f that intriguing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I think that Martinez has been so successful. I think
that it's one of those things where you almost don't
know that the stove is hot because you've never felt
the flint the fire. I think that that ignorance may
be bliss, and he could come out and be wild
and be free, and that could put the pressure of
Rob Font, a Font that has to adjust from a

(01:00:24):
grappler to a very explosive striker who is a counter striker,
and we know that Rob Font is gonna want to
move forward with his boxing. I think that really does
give Martinez a lot of opportunities in this fight, making
it very dangerous, and I think he has a lot
of advantages.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
I don't disagree. Yeah, we'll see. I'm intrigued. By Martinez.
I still like fun in this fight.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Now. I'm probably gonna jump all around on here because
I don't know if I have any of this in order.
Kelvin gastall is a betting favorite. I saw throw that
one out there. Good for Calvin Gastallum. Dustin Stoolfold is
a tough wrestler. Kelvin Gastolim is the better striker in
this matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Is there any two fighters you think of more than
when you think no, cha Ufc. I mean, let's be honest,
the first two names that come up gastolumfus right, Am
I wrong? Huh? Tell me? Tell me tell me nine?
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
But Kelvin Gastolim, I think they did him a favor
on this card. I think they gave him a manageable,
winnable fight. Good for him on this one. We'll see
what he can do with it. Jared Gordon versus Rafa Garcia.
Garcia tenacious grappler, tough dude, physical guy, trains with Cub Swanson.
Jared Gordon. Though he's the better fighter, he's he's beat

(01:01:56):
the better level of competition. He's been on a roll
really ever since the Patty pimblet debacle. I mean, there
was the headbut with Bobby Green. But I feel like
Jared Gordon know who he knows who he is. He
knows how to put together his game and he has
more tools in the box to get it done against
Rotha Garcia. Yeah, Santiago Luna Kwon Lee. This one comes

(01:02:20):
together on short notice at one hundred and thirty five
pounds six and zero Luna again, We'll see if he
knows not to have fear with this short notice opportunity.
I've heard a lot of good things about him. Alexander
Hernandez Loki could be on a four fight win streak
after this one. The move back to one point fifty five,

(01:02:42):
not cutting so much weight, being focused and utilizing his
footwork and his athleticism rather than just exploding in recklessly,
but making fighters chase him so he's able to land counters.
It's all been a lot better work. He takes on
a heavy handed Daego had A who has a lot
of a vantages, probably levels better on the ground. It's

(01:03:05):
just that difference in athleticism really leaves me wondering does
he have the requisitic tools to get on the inside
and get this fight to the ground. I kind of
like Hernandez to all of a sudden start making a
run here at one hundred and fifty five pounds. I
don't know what he does with it, but I think
he gets that kind of fight after this one. Okay,

(01:03:27):
the same thing when you look at one fifty five
with Claudio Police, He's had some great submission wins. His
striking really has an advance, like you would think he's
kind of needed to put things back together. The Spaniard
on the Mexican card, and he gets a tough test
in the Brazilian who has ruthless power in Joaquin Silva.
If this stays on the feet, you got to look

(01:03:49):
at the Brazilian. But if it hits the ground, I
think the Spaniard has a lot of advantages there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
He's Peruvian. By the way. Ah shit, that's what the
UFC website. By the way, love letter to Mexico. My
ass five fighters with the Mexico flag on this card
by Mike count eight Resiliens.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Tatiana Suarez is back for this card, taking on Amanda
le Mosche. This one buried down on the prelimbs. I
think this tells you the disappointment that the UFC felt
in Suarez's last performance. I think that her wrestling is
good enough to get past this kind of test because
it's just short of beating the best in the world
in Jonggwai Lee the better striker, though, We'll see if

(01:04:35):
the abby ends of Lamanda La Moois can make any
kind of deb in this one. One thirty five Alice
Pereira debuting against Monceret rodin this one should stay on
the feet and be entertaining. Also, watch out for Luis
Goudulay versus Jasus Aguilar at Flyway. I think that one's

(01:04:56):
going to be very chaotic, goodlay training alongside Hernandez and
Roy Val, a heavy handed striker who had a Fury
FC title. Ag you are a very underrated submission game,
so I like the contrast in that one. This card
getting started early due to that boxing event, so I

(01:05:19):
believe that we got our pre limbs.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Three pm YEP for the prelimbs on ESPN Plus main
card at six pm, so yeah, it'll be done before
the boxing main event.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
You give me a stole foods Gastolum, I'll raise you.
Demss versus Reese. Nothing like Noche.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
That was the next one. I was going to go
to you beat me all that? All right, Mike? Anything
else we need to hit on, man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
I love all the flyweight fights on that Noche card,
all Assandro Costa, Alden Carrera. I believe Parreira making his
UFC debut again. That one's going to be a lot
of fun. You see Costa, he looks like he's ripped
out of granite. Another really compact power poss figure where
Correa a lot of technique to his game. So I

(01:06:10):
think this is a really good car low key for
the one twenty five fights, I'm really interested by both
of those. This weekend we get no Ja. This weekend,
we get Canelo versus Crawford over under any chance, day
of White SIPs foot in San Antonio this week? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
This week? Yes? Is he there for the main card? Maybe? Maybe?
Look he can hop on a plane and get from
San Antonio to Vegas in time for that main event. Yes,
I'm gonna say he's in both places.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I would have thought he was just gonna be in
Vegas all week. I would feel as possible the first
TKO boxing throwing it out there, you guys, No, we
also do pro wrestling after hours here on the After
Hours Podcast Network. There has been more promotion on WWETV
for the Canelo Crawford fight than there has been for

(01:07:13):
any any UFC event since the TKO, bringing both companies
under the same umbrella.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
It's centue. There's been a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
It is a full frontal promotion and assault on trying
to tell people that Canelo Crawford matters after no one's
saying it for years. I again, boxing doesn't matter in America.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Tell everybody how they can keep up with you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
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