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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, everybody, welcome back to MMA after Hours. It's Michael
Carlisle alongside Micah frankl Micah. How you doing, man?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Man? The back hurts like always. But other than that,
I am Rio, I am Vancouver, I am MMA Ready.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, we got a lot to get to. We had
UFC Fight Night in Rio this past weekend. You mentioned
Vancouver coming up this weekend. That's an interesting card as well.
So wants to get into You want to jump right
into UFC Rio? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Sure, Well, do you want to hear an interesting story
about my friday?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Real quick? I would love to hear an interesting story
about your friday.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm driving down a road here in town and I
see an enormous line and I'm like, okay, I'm turning
into this parking lot. What is this line? Because I
don't really want to know. Stop in traffic. There's a
Dave's Hot Chicken opening. Yeah, and there is Big Ben
Rothwell yelling at people and in encouraging them to go
(01:02):
into an Inferno Chicken sandwich challenge. I've never seen someone's
personality go from bare knuckle fighter to pro wrestler and
be more jovial than Big Ben Rothwell.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Eh. Yeah, yeah, gotta do something.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I guess hot Chicken Heavyweight champion. It was fun, it
was good to see him, nice.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Guy, sure, sure, and a.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Ridiculously big line for a new chicken joint like like
that shocked me. I drove by it a couple times
that day, just in my.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Uh yeah, I know, yeah, long asses everything in this city.
When a new place opens up, though, it doesn't matter
what it is. It could be a new Golden Arches
and yeah, they're stupid lines. It's crazy. I don't whatever.
UFC was in Rio de Janeiro this past weekend. Uh
the short notice changed to the main event with my
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twoscamrot stepping in. It didn't matter to Charles olivera second
round submission submission, almost the suspension second round submission for Olvera,
and he gets a performance of the night in front
of the hometown fans.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That was a moment. That was a freaking moment. I
know that Brazil is not the most financially profitable destination
on the UFC calendar around the globe, but if they
have not just turned into some of the most enduring
fan moments when they're there. This was reminiscent of Jose
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Aldo afterwards, the love, the adoration, the pure joy in
the arena for their star. There's a connection with the
Brazilian people and they're fighting champion that it's truly authentic, genuine.
It was beautiful to see Charles Olavera. I don't know
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what we say about this perform because we both felt
this was a much better stylistic matchup. I don't know
whether to say Charles Olavera is back if Charles Olavera
was gone. I don't know what to take away from
this performance because we saw what would be in his
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favor and he was able to make all that work.
From the very moment that Matouchkamrot told people I will
not be scared to go to the ground with Charles Olivera.
Everybody took that with a are you sure you know
what you're saying? And right away in the first round
when he shoots that double leg jumps right into the
water and then we see the oma plotha, the triangle,
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everything that's being played with to the back take, you
realize I don't fucked up and Matoscamrot then in the
second round he was landing some shots. Charles Oliverro was
on the hunt on the kill was picking apart and
I think got over aggressive, and that's when Gamrat was
able to land a few. He readjusts, he settles down,
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we get back to the grappling and you get this
absolute dynamic finish. A great joke. Once again, it was
on the jaw, not under the neck. That was one
of those elite level squeezes to get the finish. I'm
just not fully sure what the takeaway is from a
Charles Olaverira well. I guess actually the best takeaway would
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be he's not as done as we were scared he
would be after getting crushed by Iliots Oboia, and he
still has most of his elite level capabilities.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I think it's an interesting situation. Like talent wise, I
don't think he's done at all, but with that log
jam in the lightweight division and a guy who's had
chances has been the champion in that division, I think
it makes it harder to slimb that ladder. Again, not
saying that he's not deserving, but you mentioned the you
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know Serukian Mahashaf, you know gae Chee hooker, Patty pimblet
on the rise, Gamro, I don't think this loss hurts Gamrot. Obviously,
at least for the moment, Olivera would be ahead of
him as far as title opportunity. He's been in the
long run. I don't think it hurts him, but there's
a lot of talent there, and Olavera's a guy who's
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been there multiple times and has had multiple shots. I
think at some point in time that starts to work
against him a little bit, whether it's consciously or subconsciously
by the matchmakers.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I can hear where you're going on that. I was
more of a durability is where. It wasn't a skilled
depletion that I was worried about at this point. It
was a vulnerability on the fight. It was a durability
question to me. It was we now, I guess, have
a greater respect even for Iliot's Aboria's enormous power. I
was more scared that we would not see in Olavera
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who was able to withstand what was going on in
the second round and who may crumble. We also, again
did feel better about this fight. It was not Raphael
the z. A lot of questions were answered coming back
three months removed from being knocked out, we can say
four calendar months, but the days did not line up
for that for Ola Air. This was a really short
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turnaround from a devastating knockout loss and to still show
everything that he has. I think that was enormous. Now,
when you look at the division, I kind of disagree
with you in the Gamrot stance because I think this
was detrimental. I know that there was rumors he was
actually slated to be headlining November eighth that got sped
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up with taking this short notice that he demanded. You
did come in on twelve days notice. I do think
though his third loss in the UFC in another pivotal moment.
I believe Dan Hooker was the other one. When you're
looking at the losses for gam Rod are stacking up
with the names above him, I think that is going
to start to hurt him a bit where he was
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about to be a headliner, and he probably does need
a win streak to get back into the consciousness. Because,
as you said, the division is so deep, we can
probably assume all goes well. Mahashev is not returning to
one fifty five. Dan Hooker versus Armin sary Yuki in
most likely becomes a title eliminator and then you're thinking
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that Max Holloway, Patty pimblet that discussion has already begun
and Charles olavericate inner seat because Patty says, no one
wants to fight with me. Max was calling out for it.
But as soon as Charles said I want that BMF fight,
we saw that perk Max ears because you know that
can be a pay per view headliner on its own.
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I think that, as weird as it sounds, one more
win and you could find Charles Oliverain knocking on the
door of a title fight. As unlikely as that sounds,
maybe it's two more wins, but I'm just happy to
see that he didn't get flat lined three months after
getting flat lined.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well, a couple of things there. You have to go
back to December of twenty twenty one. In May of
twenty twenty two, the last time Olivera put together back
to back wins, So that's probably asking a lot. I
do think Gamrock could get lost in the shuffle because
of all those people there near the top, but I
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don't think the loss itself necessarily hurts him. I think
you could still try to him back out for a
Fight Night main event and the fans would buy into that,
and I certainly don't think the UFC holds it against him.
But if every win counts in every appearance you make counts,
you yes, pemblet rolls off another win or two, Hooker White, Yeah,
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I could see a scenario where gam Rock could kind
of get lost in that shuffle. I just don't think
the loss itself necessarily hurts him, but that doesn't mean
he doesn't get lost in that shuffle for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think that's the biggest detriment is Grant Dawson is
coming up the pipeline ben while Stoni has refound himself,
hanatamway Kano is already beloved for his personality. You got Rafaelfhaziv,
Benil Daryus, and that's not even us talking about any
of the unranked guys that are coming. I don't think
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you lose much equity, but it is a possibility to
get lost in the shuffle with a guy like Patty
Pimbleck coming up, where a win here from gam Rock
got him right into the conversation. A loss now puts you, yeah,
more than a year, maybe two years away from the
title fight, because you're just looking at the names that
are ahead of you, and you're like, damn, they might
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have one, two, three title fights booked, and with the
activity of champions, they fight only twice a year. You're
already looking at your eighteen months out of the title picture.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I think with a win, he would have been in
the same situation, though assuming Pemblet wins, Hooker keeps going,
it never count out Gai Chee. You're not wrong. I
just think he might have been in the same position
even if he had beaten Olavera, depending on what happens
above him.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, now, yeah, but at least at that point you're
in the era, you're in the Olavera situation where an
injury to any one of those four guys and you're
sliding your name in there and then you're a de
facto number one contender all of a sudden if you
get a big victory. So I it does put him
back where you can't fault him for seizing the opportunity.
(10:48):
But let's just imaginarily say that he did fight November eighth,
got a main event win over somebody that was also ranked.
That probably put you where you could have got the
ola verified on a full camp.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Probably, And yes, look, you are right. If Paddy or
somebody stumbles above him in the rankings. He's not necessarily
in the same spot he would have been had he
beaten Olaver, So you are correct in that standpoint. But
all things being equal, I don't think he's any worse
for wear, but Walkee stuff tends to happen, and you
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need to put yourself in the best position to be
that guy they call on, and certainly the loss does
not help that for Gamrod.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Wild question, because we're gonna end up focusing a lot
more of this segment with Gamrod. I feel like, have
we hit a ceiling with him? Like I know, he stumbled,
came back and rolled off some wins, But if you
look at the stumbles, the hurdles, those roadblocks, they've all
been at that same level of trying to break through
to the top six, top seven. Is there a ceiling
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that we've hit with Gamrot's game? Not that well? Maybe
is it that we can't see him overcome and get
He is a worker, he is a volume guy. That
lack of finishing ability may starting to come out to
hurt him.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yes, he's got to break through. You look at his
last three losses. Daryush Hooker Olavera. Yes, all in that
same area that he was trying to break through in
the rankings. Until he can break through, I think you
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have to kind of operate on the assumption that he's
he's hit a stall. Doesn't mean he can't break through it,
but time isn't on his side, not that he's old
by any stretch, but he is thirty four, So yeah,
you do have to wonder can he break through and
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get himself where he wants to be. Yeah, I think
that's a very fair.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Question because on our timeline that where's talking about, he's
thirty four, man, you're close to the thirty six thirty
seven by the time you were. If you break through
and everything goes right, that you're fighting for a title,
and that's kind of when guys are packing it up
in that division. So unfortunately for Gamra, Yeah, that lack
of finishing ability, not being able to break through at
this level, has cost him where the elite. A finishing
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ability of Charles Olivera, whether it be on the feet,
whether it be a jumping knee, it's one of those
submissions that he throws up off his back that is
just wild as hell. He is always a danger and
you saw the reaction to the crowd. I think that
also gives him a viability because we know this is
a legitimate headliner, like Charles Olivera has reached a place
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I think generally in the MMA space with fans that
only few fighters get to. Where for a guy that's
miss wait, for a guy that had problems earlier in
his career being labeled as a quitter, I think he's
kind of been assolved of a lot of those swat
sins to be beloved generally by the audience.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And look, that's the other asterisk. And what I just
pointed out the last time that Olavera won back to
back fight, that second fight was the fight he missed
weaighted against Gegee and was stripped of the title. That
being said, if he wants it, if Holloway wants it,
you're doing a BMF fight between those two, right, because
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not only like you said earlier, can't can that main
event of pay per view, but it gets the winner
another step closer to a title shot. Right.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It makes a lot of sense. But I don't know
what the UFC already had planned, because before this going in,
it felt pretty solid to me that we're doing hookers
are Yukian and Holloway Pimblet, and that was our mini
tournament to get to a title fight. I don't know
if the Olavera Holloway, old guy beloved war is enough
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for the UFC to say, hey, Patty, we're gonna kind
of just sit you. Because hooker saryuki In is already
on the books, and I believe that Toporia Gaegee is
what we're getting in January. I'd be a little more
shocked if we get in a sudden announcement that it's
ta Poria Pimblet and that's why we're okay with going
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with Holloway o Laveri, even though from a marketing stance
it would make sense. I just don't feel like that's
what the rumor and the tea leaves out there are
shaken or saying.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
The other thing that comes into play here, which no
fighter I guess other than Iliat Taporia controls, is there's
a good shot that he's only going to fight once
a year. I realize he did fight twice in twenty
twenty four, but you go back and look, he's pretty
much good for a fight a year, So that kind
of slows things down as well, for people trying to
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move up getting that next title shot, it kind of
forces more title eliminators and things like that.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I agree with you for the sake of the UFC
and the division. Hopefully, if we have him in January,
they can get him back by October November. Maybe we
could get two fights in the year out of Taboia.
It seems like we could ask that of our champions.
I'm not sure though, what direction it's gonna go in.
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And there's even a case to be said if Hugh
does win in January, Islam Mahashev wins the welterweight title,
does Ilia continue to chase and follow and we know
that the UFC has said, oh, we don't like fighters
moving around this, that and the other thing. I feel
like Il Islam might be a special special case.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And that's another wrinkle in this. Your co main event.
Mike Diven some Fingerto, no matter how many times we
try to write him off, just does not go away.
He gets the split decision win over montel Jack. Well,
I didn't think it was the most dominating performance ever.
I also didn't get the split decision at all. I
thought personally, I thought Figurato won all three rounds. The
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scorecards were a little all over the place, but I
thought this was a really nice win for him.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Montel Jackson's scorecard. That that's ass. I'm sorry, I thought
he was going to win this fight, but that was ass.
I don't know how he has almost no output in
the first round is taken down in that round. Yeah,
he said. It was some pretty nice overhands in that round,
and a judge is able to find a way. Well,
there is one way I kind of understand it if
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you were listening to the commentary during that fight. There
was a moment where and this was a really weird
fight where Jackson's kind of stagnant, taking his position, very
statuesque and olive, and Fig EIGHTO is keeping maximum distance.
You probably could have fit two or three more fighters
in between the two of them. He is keeping maximum distance,
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and then he's running these almost nfl O wide receiver
like juking patterns to get on the inside towards his target,
woll binging in a big overhand or a big hook.
With all that movement, there was a punch that landed
in an overhand, and because of Jackson moving backwards and
almost trying to fade with the punch. You could hear
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Michael Bisboks say, oh that one just miss and then
John Hathaway no, no, no, I saw it on the screen.
It landed. That's how easy it is for a referee
to miss, or a judge that's outside the octagon without
a screen to miss what's going on. Because bisbing was
looking up at the fight as it was coming towards him,
and his colleague was looking down at the screen, so
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he was able to see it. That's how he end
up with these wonky score cards. But overall, I thought
that Jackson did nothing. He was relegated very defensive as
fig Eto showed veteran experience ring gentlemanship. He was able
to manage the fight very well. He was effective with
his blitzes, in his bursts, and in the takedowns. He
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was the more effective party, which it seemed to very
limit the Jackson forward pressure. He was scared of those takedowns.
A brilliant veteran performance from figy EIGHTO. He survives and
maintains his spot in the rankings. I'm not sure though,
what's next for him if you offer him someone above below.
We got some bad and weights fighting this weekend, maybe
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there's one there that intrigues us.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, he's in an interesting spot because at thirty seven,
I don't necessarily see him fighting up in his next fight,
although he could. But whoever you put him in there
with is going to be a good fight. Obviously, though,
if you're fig AIGHTO, you want to get back into
contingent for another title shot, so you're looking at the
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guys above you. But whomever they put him in there with,
it'll be a fun fight. So him getting booked and
getting booked when he's ready, it's going to be the issue.
It's just may not be who he's looking for.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It in no way is going to be who he's
looking for. I don't see a Sean O'Malley fight falling
out of the sky. We'll talk about what's next for
the champion. For some of the contenders, uh Umar's got Batista,
there are O'Malley Yadong rumors. This weekend, we've got amans
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A Hobby Marlon Vera the winner. There might literally be
more realistic with the logjam that's already behind them.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Agreed, Agreed, Sanagan coming off a lot, I mean maybe.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
That well, Sanagan did just tear up Figgi's knee. I
don't know if you do a rematch within a calendar,
true true, true.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
So yeah, that's he's in a tough spot. But yeah,
that nice one for him. On Saturday, Joel Alvarez gets
a unanimous decision over Vicente Luke.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Talk about a tough spot, that's the best way to
say where Vicente Luke is at right now. Joel Avarez
definitely the right decision, though, go up to one seventy,
you're not healthy. At one fifty five, it was wearing
down the body, trying to make the way the jab,
the left hook, great weapons, seemed like a little bit
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tentative of his size or his cardio. That inverted triangle
was not going to get a finish, but it definitely
did trap in disarm Luke a for the third round,
easy sweep, even get a ten eight. There was a
ten eight, Carlisle, I know you call me a ten eater.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, you're a ten eater.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And there were ten eights in this fight, and Joel
Alvarez had a beautiful performance. This one puts in probably
like top twenty, Like we're looking to make some noise
for Joel Alvarez, but talking about making some damn noise.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Time out real quick, making some damn noise on a
ten eight. Here's the difference. Everybody was in agreement all
this one. All three judges scored that second round ten eight.
Sometimes it's just fucking ten eight, and there's no getting
around that. But I think it has to be something
really super dominating, and in this case, it was probably warranted.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Warranted, you know, you know, it's probably the time in
that episode where we uh, I guess, we got to
talk about rules and officials and one thing, it's become
normal in MMA to call your own fouls. This doesn't
pick up basketball, but we're calling our own fouls. The
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referees aren't sure what happens, and then when the referee
is told that the strike was legal, we still don't
restart in the fight. Joelle Alvarez cracks with Sentay Luke,
if you didn't see with the left hook it lands
right in the eye, knuckle right in the eye. All legal,
He says, it's an eyepoke. Gentlemanly Alvarez does not jump
all over that ass and finish him like he should have.
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The referee goes to the instant replays told it's a king,
and instead they bring in a doctor to assess Luke's
I Michael Bisbaning has a coronary on the mic that
the fight should have been stopped, because if you're stopping
the fight, it should have been a stoppage and a
victory for Alvas. I'm not sure if that's actually the rules,
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but nobody understood what the rule was anyway, and unfortunately
for Alvarez, Luke got way more time to recover from
a legal strike than he deserved.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Well, I was always under the impression, if you go
to the video, the fight's over.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
They have now abbreviated that for the ipokes and for
the low blows, so that they can say if they
were clean or not to restart the action. That is
a rule that I believe has been inserted in the
last year, since the last ABC meeting.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Okay, okay, that makes a little more sense. Look, it
was a legal strike at that point, what are you
supposed to do? Restart just everybody at the rear you
want to fight?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Fight?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
No, Nope, it's so so. The issue here is bringing
the doctor into check on Luke after being affected by
a legal strike.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Exactly exactly you stopped the fight for a unnecessary medical precaution.
If you think it's it's damning enough to stop the fight, well,
the timer is still going because they said it was legal.
Stop the fight because they had already identified that the
strike was legal when they brought the doctor in it
and it was not between rounds. That's where the fight
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should have been over.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, I would agree agree with you at that point.
Either started back up immediately or if you're bringing the
doctor in, the fight's over.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
And also, just to my point, I'm pissed off for
Alvarez because as soon as they say that strike was legal,
the fight needs to commence because now Luke is getting
that recovery time. Why does he get to recover from
a legal strike exactly whether the doctor's in there or not,
we're just wasting time. Well, he is vulnerable, and that
was Alvarez's advantage that's being lost. Thankfully none of that
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came back to haunt him. I think it would have
been awful because Luke did come back and start firing hard.
If you do him by knockout, that kind of would
have been a travesty.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. What else do oh
freaking Mario Pinto good lord second round TKO victory for him.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Gadinia's is two one dimensional incredible kickboxer. Pinto shows he
can change up the game, gets the take down, all
well rounded, ground and pounds. It's almost unfortunate that we're
coming to this point. Did you realize what team they
said he fights out of? No team aspital Anthey, Dilia,
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Tom aspinall. There's at least two others. There's like five
heavyweights from one damn camp. We have no heavyweights and
we have one camp that's just ruling the division. I
don't know how we're gonna get good fights or Oh,
Nick Parkin that Mick Parkin, that's the other one I
was trying to think of. He's just outside of the
top fifteen. They don't want to fight each other because
they're all teammates. This is going to get a little awkward.
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Forget that for the moment, though, and let's just concentrate on.
Did you like the mic work showing off some Portuguese
faking Michael bisping out and the brit busting out with
all the love broth?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah, no, I was good to show a little personality. Yeah, look,
we'd all love it. To be all about the fighting
and all that and that's it, but it ain't.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So yeah, you know, you know what's just saying, you're
definitely right there, kind of awfully. Hey, great grappling. Ricardo
Ramos wanted to play on the ground. You got the submission.
Great job, Michael asked you, Junior. That was a late
stoppage from Lucas Almada one two. That is laughable that
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the Brazilian commission left the guy with the balloon on
his hand actually fight if you don't know after seeing
that way in photo, and that is on you, my people.
I'm not gonna say what I did, but that one
was quite obvious. And Jason Herzong that was the late
stopp is bro, you'ld let the man go down hard?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
How are you allowed to pass your medicals? Like?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
He didn't complain, He didn't tell them.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
He didn't have to tell them. All all you had
to do was glance down at his hand. It's terrible, terrible,
terrible stuff like that really bugs me because for those
out there who still knock mm may and human cock
fighting and all that bullshit and oh they don't care
about the fighters, Well, this plays right into that. I
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get it. You're tough, Yeah, you're a warrior and all that.
Your fucking hand is three times as big as it's
supposed to be. You should not be fighting.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Oh that is all truth from Michael Carlile. Beatrice ms Squite,
the thirty five year old multiple time Brazilian jiu jitsu
world champion, dominant second round rear naked chokes me the
whole first round in Mountain. We're gonna see her move
quickly up these rankings. She is at an age and
we are at the numbers where we need more impactful people.
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Hopefully the maturation can continue there. At American Top Team
Julia Palestri, she had Carolina coovid Kaevis shook the bodykick
in the first round and was able to pour it
on for three rounds after that vicious stuff. Luan lecerta
great job with the arm bar. That's what happens when
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you miss weight by eight damn pounds. I didn't see
the percentage, but hopefully it was like fifty percent of
Ola Vera's check, if not more, because that is just
absurd to miss weight by that much.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Remember what I said about your hand being three times
the size is supposed to be Yeah, same thing applies
here when you miss weight by that much. Look pound,
pound and a half, two pounds, even two and a
half pounds. All right, everybody agrees to fight, that's fine.
You're starting off at an eight pound fucking advantage. That
should not be allowed.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
This ain't heavyweight, man, This ain't heavyweight. Exact shit was
ridiculous talking about heavyweights though. Also, congratulations to Victor Petrino
that's now two and zero up at the Land of
the Giants. That was a beautiful combination and you made
Thomas Peterson now live in infamy as a meme where
he looks like a dolphin.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Where he looks like a dolphin. Yeah, that was rough man.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
That was six finishes, seven prelimbs fights. Thank you Brazil
for the entertainment, exactly, Micah.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
We would be remiss if we didn't mention one of
the bigger moments of the night that didn't actually happen
during a fight, and that was Jose Aldo coming out
and retiring again, but doing it this time in front
of the home country crowd.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I don't want to sound like an asshole, but we're
kind of used to the robotic, the cold machine, the norm.
There's the status Q from the UFC, So when there's
something different happening, I was kind of confused for a moment,
Why is Jusie Aldore coming in? Is this dude about
to announce his return once again? And to see the retirement.
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It ended up being a beautiful scene. His family was emotional.
We know how beloved he is by the country. I
touched on it earlier in the show the crazy celebration
after the Chad Mendez knee. There are only few fighters
that are that endured by their community, so I could
see it. It was beautiful. Still tell you though, I
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was shocked that they did it because we don't see
this everywhere all the time from the UFC. But it
was a beautiful moment. I do commend them on it.
It was just surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
No, Look, we do need more moments like this, and
they can't be manufactured either. That's why I didn't have
a problem with UFC basically creating a pay per view
for Poier, right, because you were trying to give him
a moment. Now, you've got to be careful with it
because if it comes cross is fake and manufactured, that
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the fans can sniff that out easily. As well. But
this was a no brainer. Although doesn't want to fight anymore,
bring him out in front of the Brazilian crowd and
have him announced his retirement, put the gloves down and
all that. Everybody's going to eat that up. I thought,
this was a great moment. And you're right, in a
sport where we don't always have these touchy feeling moments,
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it's good sometimes when we get them.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Well, I was sitting there just so happened to be
wearing my Jose Aldo, King of Rio. Of course I was.
They were in Rio.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I felt like I needed the theme.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And then I saw him and and yes, it was
that Rick Flair moment, the tear in my eye. I
was so happy for all though, to see it all
come together, the King of Rio, the greatest featherweight of
all time, so much love and adoration for that man,
and you could see what it meant to that crowd
to be able to honor him, because we saw the
retirements in the States. The Hall of Fame injunction was
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in the States. You're right, that moment there in his
country the world to them and him.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yep, for sure, for sure. All in all, a great
night of fights in Rio. Deshoneiro from UFC. They are
back at it this weekend. They will keep it an
international Micah in Vancouver. We'll look at that card coming
up in just a bit, mikeh. A couple of things
to hit on real quick. About the time we got
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done last week and got the episode posted. News comes down.
Connor McGregor gets an eighteen month suspicion a suspension for
violating the UFC's anti doping policy where he this was
more of a whereabouts issue than actually failing a test,
but failed to provide his whereabouts, so he therefore missed
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three tests. Because he cooperated, the two year suspension was
dropped down to eighteen months. Conveniently, Micah, this will all
be over and done with in time for the White
House card.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Conveniently. This is and how US rule in house giving.
I don't know what they mean by cooperating, because cooperating
when the investigation would have just been, you know, citing
your whereabouts. Hey, wow, here's the penalty two years. Well,
you cooperated after we found you guilty, so yeah, we'll
drop that. Hey and timely it works out for us
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that you get to fight at the UFC. This is
what you get with having in house take care of
these kind of situations, it feels like what could have
been one of the biggest stories in MMA goes by
the wayside because all of this now gets reported after
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the fact because it was damning and detrimental to fighters characters.
When we did have continuous reporting of every dirty test,
and half of them came back to be dirty pharmaceutical
companies not putting actually what was on the product in
the label. So to save all that mudwak, we went
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to a system now where it's in house and we
get the results less news for the public and Connor McGregor,
and one of the biggest stories that feels like it
would have been, you know, clamoring the internets, Connor McGregor
running from drug tests, Connor McGregor failing drug tests. It's
all a lot to do about nothing because it's all
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during a time where he wasn't even gonna fight. So
the punishment, the infraction, none of it really matters because
he wasn't gonna fight throughout this time anyway, and it
doesn't affect the time in which the planning to have
him fight.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Well a couple things here. This also comes the day
after Connor says he's taken a break from social media.
Very convenient. Correct me if I'm wrong. But the first
misstest they hadn't canceled the Chandler fight yet. Now they
may have already known it wasn't gonna happen, but it
hadn't been canceled yet. Here's the problem. And here's the
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issue with bringing the drug testing in house. Even if
everything is completely on the up and up here, and
I'm not alleging it's not, but even if we operate
on that assumption, everything's done by the book, there's no chicanery,
there's none of that bullshit going on, it still stinks
to high heavens. That's why I think it's important to
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have a completely independent outside agency handling these I know
UFC had some issues with USADA. Part of that also
revolved around Connor McGregor, but there were other issues as well.
But once you bring the drug testing in house, and
UFC is certainly not the only company to do that.
We just talked about PFL last week doing the same thing.
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But the waters start to become muddied, and when something
like this happens, it's human nature. We're just all like, huh,
this is all really convenient. Hell, you brought it up
and you're not wrong. Well this works out because suspension
is up in March. Connor says he wants to fight
on the White House card at the end of June.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Eh.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Wow, how lucky for the UFC and Connor that this
timing works out the way it does. And maybe it
is truly luck. Again, everything's on the up and up.
But it sure stinks to high heavens.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Micah, Oh, it really does. But it's up to you,
our audience, our listeners, to tell the UFC that you
care about the transparency of these situations and that this
matters to you because you're the only ones that can
affect change. You're the ones that affect the bottom line.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
We can't do it.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
We're reporting the news to you, guys. We could spout
from the high heavens how we feel this should be portrayed.
If this doesn't affect the bottom line, and if the
audience is able to portray that this doesn't matter to them,
it's not gonna change. I understand what you say. It
it can stink to high heavens. But if there's only
you know, ten media members that care about the bad smell.
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I don't know what that matters in the grand scheme
of things. You're right, it does stink to Hil, but
it's not a huge story, and it doesn't seem to
bother a lot of people, and that's an even bigger travesty.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I think it is a huge story. You're right, doesn't
seem to bother that many people, but it probably should.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It should, it should. I'm pretty sure if it wasn't
a fighter that wasn't a lot of people's favorite fighter,
then then maybe it would. But I think that people
would rather keep this circus going than hammer the circus.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, for being a circus. Agreed a couple of other things, Mike,
you brought it up either last week or a week before.
Gable Stevenson, you're gonna dip his toe into dirty boxing
at the end of this month October thirtieth, in Nashville, Tennessee.
Stevenson says this is the next step in his progression
and he's looking to make his UFC debut on that
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White House card. We were just talking to talking about,
what do you think about Gable Stevenson's prospects for meeting
that timeline and hitting a UFC debut at the White House.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
It's definitely possible. He's a big enough personality. They're going
to hit the ground running with him, and if he's
able to handle all the requisite tests, I think he'll
make it there. Three more fights in the next four
months five months to get then the UFC attention and
to then get on the card by June. I don't
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think it's that far fetch to have a six to
eight week camp for that debut to fight somebody at
the bottom of the heavyweight division. It almost feels like
a good idea to do the dirty boxing because I've
been around the amateur scene in the local scene long
enough that when you get a killer Monster d one wrestler,
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you will see these guys come out get put right
into MMA fights and they are able to manhandle their
opposition that has not been wrestling their entire life. Some
of these guys will get force fed into matchups that
they don't belong in because of how great they look
and dominant they look with the grappling with Sometimes there's
submission game that applies to that wrestling, and I always
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look at those guys and you need a kickboxing match,
you need a boxing match. You need this stuff in
your amateur days to be able to put together all
the requisite tools to be a complete mixed martial artist. Well, Gable,
I'm not sure if there was even an opportunity for
him to go amateur in MMA, if anybody would even
take that fight. So this is as close as he's
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going to get to testing out his striking. Well, I'm
a little worried of it. It's probably not a bad
idea to make Gable use his hands and let's see
if he can appropriately apply striking before he's in over
his head, because he should be able to dominate with
his wrestling on the regional scene.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yep, I'm with you. Before we get to fight announcements,
and we got some big fight announcements, we've got some
fighter removals. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Came across it in the last couple of weeks. The
UFC roster has lightened a bit, and it's always lightning,
it's always adding, but these names specifically drew interest because
some of them weren't active, but they were just kind
of hanging around still on the roster taking up space.
Not sure if these guys have been released or contracts
just ran up, but Joe Loson, we know the New England,
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longtime UFC VET, incredibly entertaining fighter. He is gone, Real
Estate mogul I ale at Quinta is gone, Jiu Jitsu Ace,
Ryan Hall, and intriguingly enough, the polarizing figure of Nick Diaz,
who earlier this year we were talking about him possibly
(40:54):
fighting in Abu Dhabi or was that last year?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Might have been last year.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
M'd have been the end of last year, like August
October last year.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Here's the thing though, Ryan Hall last fight December of
twenty twenty one. Joe Loson, last fight October of twenty nineteen,
Iya kent To last fight November of twenty twenty one.
Nick Diaz last fight September of twenty twenty one. These
guys were basically retired, at least from a UFC MMA standpoint.
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My guess would be the contract time just ran out.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Good guess. I just found it interesting to see those
names kind of the internet making waves that they were
all officially gone from the roster. Another guy gone from
the roster, Justin Tafa. We saw him missweight at heavyweight.
He had announced on social media he was going to
be stepping away from fighting. Maybe one day he'd be
able to return, citing something like six surgeries in the
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last three years. It's official now that he is no
longer on the UFC roster. UFC vet Uriah Hall has
announced his next move. You guys can see him in
the fight pit. He is going to be joining Karate Combat.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Fight announcements including we get our main event and Comaine
event for UFC three twenty three to finish out the
year in December.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
And most of the card, So let's go. Carlisle already
said at December sixth, Las Vegas last pay per view,
possibly at the pay per view error, definitely of the
ESPN plus error. Morab Dwalash Philly has once again reclaimed
his spot as a headliner. We saw it in the Spear,
now we'll see it in T mobile. He's going to
run it back with Peter Yon an attempt to make
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history with his fourth title defense in one calendar year.
The co main event. Well, we already knew what that
was thanks to Michael aswell Junior telling us it at
the UFC Fight Night. I wonder if that's going to
get a talking to because he's all us, Hey, Dana,
I want to be on the same card as my
boy Joshua who's challenging Alessandre Pantojia for that flyweight title. Well,
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now that fight is official for the co main event
if we didn't already know it, Like I just told you,
the card will also see at flyweight Tatsuo ya Tira
taking on Brandon Moreno. Henry Sejudo will take on a
former protege of his, Peyton Talbitt. Yes, they do have
a history together, Jan Blahovich Bogdan Guskov at light heavyweight.
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At lightweight, you get the number fourteen, Grant Dawson versus
Mexico's Manuel Torres. You get Fra faraz Ziem versus Nazim SHATIKV.
That's also at lightweight. And again at lightweight, we get
Terrence McKenny, Chris Duncan, and just added before we got
on the show, Marvin Vittori versus Bruno Fajta. You get
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to see a Bruno there. So a whole lot of additions.
Yes I was making that Bruno reference. You have a child,
now you get what I'm talking about. So a whole
shit ton of fun at to that card. That is
a stacked ass pay per view. I'm guessing we got
the main card and most of the meat of the
prelims announced right there.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
No, I'm with you, and that's a heck of a
way to end the year, a heck of away at
least for now, to end pay per views as in
January they move over to Paramount Plus and and CBS. Yeah,
I love this card.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Backtracking on some announcements, UFC three twenty two on November
fifteenth gets an addition MSG Sean Brady Michael Morales. Oh
big implications there in the welterweight division. Never really backtracking,
We've got some fight night announcements. November one, monsterret the
Roriz will be taking on Alice at DeLine and Charles
(44:47):
Radke versus Daniel Ferunza both added to the fight Night
in the Apex on November one. The November eighth Fight
Night in the Apex, Josh Hokeit will make his UFC
debut against Max Jim Means, and we're gonna get Ishmael
bond theme versus Chris Padilla on the same card that
Bomb Fiend's brother will be headlining, so that'll be cool
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for the Bond themes. Austin Bashi is out Hyder and
Mali is jumping in to take on Jamal Emers, also
on that card, and that rounds out the fight announcements
for this week.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
All right, UFC back at it this weekend. They are
in Vancouver for a Fight Night Love. This main event
top ten middleweights number four Rainier de Ritter takes on
the ninth ranked middleweight Brendan Allen.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
And if you guys remember Brendan Allen jumping in on
short notice replacing Anthony Fluffy Hernandez who did lose to
two fights ago. Four fights in the UFC for Rainy
of the Ridder, He's on a five fight win streak.
The man has eighteen finishes in his twenty one wins,
with fourteen coming by submission. He got the split over Whittaker,
the knee that crumbled bow Nickel, an RNC over Kevin Holland,
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and then we also had the arm triangle debut over
Gerald Mershard crashes In has lethal knees. His striking has
started to look a little bit better throughout his time
in the UFC. He has ruthless forward pressure. But the
chin is how high in the air. We saw it
get caught and nearly knocked off by Robert Whittaker. So
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there's a lot to love and some things to worry
about from a right near the rider, who's an imposing figure,
had like six foot four, but he's not an athletic
specimen Brendan Allen. His last three fights are a win
over Marvin Vttori, and then we also had a pair
of decision losses hernandez Any mav Off. He has a
solid ground game, but it is nowhere near the level
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of RDR. Even though these two both come in fourteen
submission wins a police both with black belts, but there's
different levels of black belts and the way that they
implement him. There is some hesitations in the control aspect.
Alan will not be able to control guys as well
as they rid terious, but he is the sharper striker.
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You have to think that he can land the more
powerful shots. I said he had two decision losses in
his last three fights, but he's eight and two in
the last ten. He has the higher level of experience
being in the UFC for so long, even though RDR
has been fighting some of the great greats throughout Asia
and Europe. If you're thinking RDR is gonna win this fight,
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because he's gonna get it to the floor. He's gonna
put Alan in trouble. He's gonna be able to wear
on Alan with that relentless pressure. If you're Alan, you
need to drag this one into deeper waters. See if
we can test the cardio of our dr and you're
gonna need to be able to effectively nullify the pressure,
find the chin and keep landing big shots. We know
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that Alan has a ground game. He has got to
stay away from the ego and attempting to use this
if he's gonna be successful. I have a feeling that
he gets trapped into playing the grappling game, though, and
that eventually this one will turn out in r DR's favor.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
For those interested in such things, De Ritter a minus
two fifty favorite, Brendan Allen a plus two to ten underdog.
Coming into this one.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
The co main event Kevin Holland Mike Mallott. It feels
like it's been a couple of days since Kevin Hollins
been in the octagon. He probably needed to get back there. Sure, Yeah,
you know, he likes to stay active.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
It had been a week or so.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Holland, coming off of a loss to Daniel Rodriguez, got
out pointed on the feet. They basically slugged it out,
and that was following wins over Luke and Gunner Nelson.
Every time, every freaking time you want to buy in,
you want to call up your broker and be like, man,
get me that Kevin Holland stock, it just plummets once again.
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Inconsistency is his biggest vulnerability by low.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
It's so hi mikeh Holland a plus one thirty underdog,
Bye bye bye ma Lot.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
A two fight win streak since getting Neil magneied. He
got Neil Magni. That happens to a lot of guys.
Then he comes back against Giles and Radkey. I think
he has the advantage on the outside trying to move
and be a flowier striker. We saw getting put on
his back was his detriment against Neil Magni. But a
lot of people that I've seen their breakdowns. It suggests
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that ma Lot needs to get the takedown, use his
more methodical thought process and outthink Kevin Holland. Here, Holland
is the longer, lengthier fighter he can crack, so maybe
that is the right thought process. Even though he has
a black belt jiu jitsu, his wrestling has been suspect
at points, but that was more at middleweight. I think
there's a real danger in this fight for me lot,
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because Kevin Hallam might just have the right attributes to
make this fight stay on the feet and then use
his reach advantage.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
In the feature fight. This is that ban and weight
fight that I speculated about earlier, where I think the
winner might meet Davidson Figuido. You got Marlon Vera. We've
seen him get all the way to a title fight.
We've seen him have some tremendous comebacks. A huge power puncher,
but he struggles with Cardio if you're able to make
him work. He takes on Aiman Zahabby, a methodical fighter
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who is very game plan oriented. He brings a variation
of strikes combinations. He's not athletically imposing, but he stays
within himself. He recognized who he is and much high
credited Figyaido for managing fights. That's what Zahabi is able
to do. Coming off of the biggest win of his
career over Joseyaldo, a fight that again he out fought
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Joseyaldo everywhere. I like a lot of the ascension that
a hobby is on versus a Marlon Vera, who he
needs to land the one big shot, and we've seen
that if you're able to overwhelm him, he's gonna kind
of be a slow starter. So I think in early
getting going from Zahabi will snowball a against Marlon Vera.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Zahabi a minus two fifty favorite vera plus two ten underdog.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
We get a huge rebound opportunity for the frenchwoman, Manor Fiort.
She's coming off of the second loss of her MMA career.
This one was the one, the big one to Valentina Chevchenko.
She takes on the ascending Canadian Jasmine Jazz de Vicius Fiort.
She has her k karate style, she has the better footwork,
she's the more experienced striker, and she has a really
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high level of takedown defense. Only Chevchenko has been able
to put her in vulnerable positions on her back. I
say that because we saw how the fight turned out
for Aaron Blanchefield. Jasmine Jazz de Viscias has that Aaron
Blanchfield kind of game. We've seen a five fight win streak.
A really good grappler beats androge Myra Bunoso is a Lipski,
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but it always sticks out to me. We were there
live in Colorado at the fight night where she beat
Fatima Klein, but that was Klein's short notice debut up
a weight class, and Klein was landing really well in
the striking. That gives me a lot of pause. That
can Jazz Divisius be able to hang with Fiort on
the feet? I think this one goes the distance and
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I'm favoring the French woman in it because of that
experience on the feet and her ability to shut down takedowns.
Maybe Jazz Divisius rises to another level and that home
country advantage is able to play in. But I feel
like this is a hard one for her stylistically because
we've expected grapplers to take out Fiort before and only
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one the top of the pedigree has had success with it.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yes see, I like Jazz Divisia is just a little
bit more than I do for Roh, but it is
almost a toss up for sure.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Opening up the main card, you got Matt Freevola versus
Kyle Nelson and at least once an episode. I like
to say this basically the same dude, Okay, I'll tell
you that for Vola, heavier hand, more adjusted to the
lightweight division. I think he's the better fighter, but when
we talk about the grappling, the aggressive, they share a
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lot of similar attributes. I favor free Vola slightly with
his higher level experience in that one. We get on
down to the prelims. There's a whole host of preliums
and I actually got four that I want to highlight.
We have Charles Jordayne. I think this is going to
be the second time we're seeing him at one thirty five.
I was suspect on how he would make the way cut.
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He looked phenomenal in the debut. He is a big
guy for the division. He is the younger guy in
this matchup. David Grant is one dimensional in comparison to
the guillotine and the grappling that Jordaane possesses. I feel
like Grant has to land a big left hand. There's
just more diversity and opportunities for Jordayne to get the victor.
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I think he's a more trickier striker with his variation
of strikes. He can throw out more kicks. Grant has
one big left hand. I think this one should favor Jordaane,
but that left hand is a bomb.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Did Jordaane suffer an injury in his last fight? He's
been gone for a while, right, Yeah, he fought three
times in twenty twenty four, the last being November of
last year, but this is his first fight this year.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I'm not sure. I haven't even seen his name circulate.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, I have. Maybe he was just taking some time away,
or if there was an injury he was recuperating from.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
We also have on the pre limbs hung Sung Park.
Couldn't he reestablish himself? He was three to zero in
the UFC the short known as lost to Tatsuya Tira.
It exposed the grappling a bit. Even though he is
considered to be a very well rounded guy. In this matchup,
he's the more polished striker. I think he is more
defensively aware than a Bruno Silva, who does have a
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higher level of jiu jitsu and a big punch. But
he's an older guy. We've seen the holes in his game,
and I think that the upside is so much more
on Park that I think he can be aggressive to
a wild point. That's the only thing to really be
aware of this fight. Does he put him out self
out of position to give up easy takedowns. If he
stays within himself, I think he gets that victory that
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puts him back on the trajectory we thought he would
be on because he wasn't supposed to fight ty around
that last fight. He was supposed to keep climbing against
another requisite test. As I keep going on the prelimbs
middleweight division, I believe it's a middleweight fight. We get
Danny Barlow versus to Jordan Santos. This one a lot
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of fun on the feet. Both guys consider to be strikers.
How does Barlow rebound from the first loss of his career.
We know that he's a sharp puncher. He looks to
operate on the feet. There's a lot that he needs
to reclaim because he was a top level prospect got
put down hard. This one. There's a lot of get
back for him. He's going to be taking on Jordan Santos.
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Samptos won on the Contender series, lost a disputed decision
in his debut against Ozzy Diaz. He can mix up
the game and for him best it's going to be
having to disrupt the risdom of Barlow, where it looks
like Santos may have a little bit more grappling in
his back pocket, but for the most part, I think
this one gets decided on the feet and should be
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a lot of fun. Second fight on the card oz
Matt Buk the former LFA champion eight wins by knockout,
eight wins by submission, eight fight win streak, solid takedown
defense and grappling, a three fight win streak for his opponent,
the debut of Yusory Belgari, a Alex Ferreira training partner,
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a Glover to share a trained fighter, a phenomenal kickboxer
with devastating power. Kem Buka get this one to the
ground with his more well rounded game or does he
get tuned up by a very elite level striker.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Well Gary the biggest underdog on the card at plus
three eighty five Becca of minus five hundred, your biggest
favorite on the card.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
They're thinking that takedown defense is not going to be
there from Belgari. I'm intrigued to see how that one
plays out. It's a crazy debut. Ozma has twenty three
MMA fights, Bulgari has eleven, so there's double b experience
going against him. Maybe the matchmakers say that kickboxing experience
gives you enough that it's an even fight, but this
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is gonna be an uphill climb. Like you know how
Audasania and Perira debut with fights where we kind of
felt like they probably were a little bit favored. Yeah,
Algari not getting such the treatment.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yeah yeah. Pre lims a four pm Eastern time on
ESPN Plus. Your main card from Vancouver gets underway at
seven pm Eastern Time on Saturday night, also on ESPN Plus.
What else have we got this weekend?
Speaker 2 (57:42):
Micah, Well, this weekend, there's a couple of things going
on around the world. First, for the people paying attention
for the PFL, you do have the PFL Africa Rwanda event.
It is the semifinals for all the weight classes in
the regular season tournament. If you're checking out Octagon Octagon
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seventy eight this week in Cologne, Germany, we've been talking
about them. You have top German welterweight prostick prospect Christian
Eckerlin on the card. You have unbeaten women's bannam weight prospect.
We know we need more bannonm weights in the UFC.
Alina Dalasana, We'll see if she can improve to four
and zero and in a battle between unbeaten light heavyweights
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Patty Lesner as I like to call him now, Frederick Vascon.
He is back very quickly. He's taking on Samuel Charberia,
both guys unbeaten. Another European top prospect to come out
of that fight. Also Saturday, we have the KSW one
eleven event from the Czech Republic. Phil de Friese, the
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Team aspinall Brazilian jiu jitsu coach, looks for his thirteenth
title defense when he's challenged by Stephen Vakjack Vakjack three
fight win stream, all coming by knockouts. KSW light heavyweight
title fight. Also raw file, Hartekaia defends against the submission
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Savvy Bartow's LESCo. That is Saturday, you have a whole
ton of international fights and something I forgot to mention
in the news section of the show. Uh huh, we
have an update. Officially, I had announced telling you guys
BKFC we were gonna do Dave Mundell, the middleweight champion
(59:30):
moving up to light heavyweight to challenge Josh Dyer for
his title. Hardy told you that Mundel had said, Hey,
they put out a poster contracts not signed. Now seeing
several sources throughout online speculating appears yeah, that fight not
official at all and has been canceled. We will no
longer get Mundell moving up to challenge Dyer. It's looking
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like BKFC is in search of a replacement opponent. The
plan appears to still be at this time for Josh
Dyer to defend his light heavyweight title November fifteenth in California.
Opponent to be named. Interesting development with BKFC and to
keep our audience also informed because I brought it up
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like maybe earlier in the month. I now know the date.
October twenty eighth on Netflix, you get the season debut
of Physical one hundred, so you still have a couple
weeks to catch up on the other seasons before Robert
Whittaker and many pakiaw hit Netflix.
Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Oh there you go, anything else, Micah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
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Hey, everybody, welcome back to MMA after Hours. It's Michael
Carlisle alongside Micah frankl Micah. How you doing, man?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Man? The back hurts like always. But other than that,
I am Rio, I am Vancouver, I am MMA Ready.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, we got a lot to get to. We had
UFC Fight Night in Rio this past weekend. You mentioned
Vancouver coming up this weekend. That's an interesting card as well.
So wants to get into You want to jump right
into UFC Rio? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Sure, Well, do you want to hear an interesting story
about my friday?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Real quick? I would love to hear an interesting story
about your friday.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm driving down a road here in town and I
see an enormous line and I'm like, okay, I'm turning
into this parking lot. What is this line? Because I
don't really want to know. Stop in traffic. There's a
Dave's Hot Chicken opening. Yeah, and there is Big Ben
Rothwell yelling at people and in encouraging them to go
(01:02):
into an Inferno Chicken sandwich challenge. I've never seen someone's
personality go from bare knuckle fighter to pro wrestler and
be more jovial than Big Ben Rothwell.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Eh. Yeah, yeah, gotta do something.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I guess hot Chicken Heavyweight champion. It was fun, it
was good to see him, nice.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Guy, sure, sure, and a.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Ridiculously big line for a new chicken joint like like
that shocked me. I drove by it a couple times
that day, just in my.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Uh yeah, I know, yeah, long asses everything in this city.
When a new place opens up, though, it doesn't matter
what it is. It could be a new Golden Arches
and yeah, they're stupid lines. It's crazy. I don't whatever.
UFC was in Rio de Janeiro this past weekend. Uh
the short notice changed to the main event with my
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twoscamrot stepping in. It didn't matter to Charles olivera second
round submission submission, almost the suspension second round submission for Olvera,
and he gets a performance of the night in front
of the hometown fans.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That was a moment. That was a freaking moment. I
know that Brazil is not the most financially profitable destination
on the UFC calendar around the globe, but if they
have not just turned into some of the most enduring
fan moments when they're there. This was reminiscent of Jose
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Aldo afterwards, the love, the adoration, the pure joy in
the arena for their star. There's a connection with the
Brazilian people and they're fighting champion that it's truly authentic, genuine.
It was beautiful to see Charles Olavera. I don't know
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what we say about this perform because we both felt
this was a much better stylistic matchup. I don't know
whether to say Charles Olavera is back if Charles Olavera
was gone. I don't know what to take away from
this performance because we saw what would be in his
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favor and he was able to make all that work.
From the very moment that Matouchkamrot told people I will
not be scared to go to the ground with Charles Olivera.
Everybody took that with a are you sure you know
what you're saying? And right away in the first round
when he shoots that double leg jumps right into the
water and then we see the oma plotha, the triangle,
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everything that's being played with to the back take, you
realize I don't fucked up and Matoscamrot then in the
second round he was landing some shots. Charles Oliverro was
on the hunt on the kill was picking apart and
I think got over aggressive, and that's when Gamrat was
able to land a few. He readjusts, he settles down,
(04:08):
we get back to the grappling and you get this
absolute dynamic finish. A great joke. Once again, it was
on the jaw, not under the neck. That was one
of those elite level squeezes to get the finish. I'm
just not fully sure what the takeaway is from a
Charles Olaverira well. I guess actually the best takeaway would
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be he's not as done as we were scared he
would be after getting crushed by Iliots Oboia, and he
still has most of his elite level capabilities.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I think it's an interesting situation. Like talent wise, I
don't think he's done at all, but with that log
jam in the lightweight division and a guy who's had
chances has been the champion in that division, I think
it makes it harder to slimb that ladder. Again, not
saying that he's not deserving, but you mentioned the you
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know Serukian Mahashaf, you know gae Chee hooker, Patty pimblet
on the rise, Gamro, I don't think this loss hurts Gamrot. Obviously,
at least for the moment, Olivera would be ahead of
him as far as title opportunity. He's been in the
long run. I don't think it hurts him, but there's
a lot of talent there, and Olavera's a guy who's
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been there multiple times and has had multiple shots. I
think at some point in time that starts to work
against him a little bit, whether it's consciously or subconsciously
by the matchmakers.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I can hear where you're going on that. I was
more of a durability is where. It wasn't a skilled
depletion that I was worried about at this point. It
was a vulnerability on the fight. It was a durability
question to me. It was we now, I guess, have
a greater respect even for Iliot's Aboria's enormous power. I
was more scared that we would not see in Olavera
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who was able to withstand what was going on in
the second round and who may crumble. We also, again
did feel better about this fight. It was not Raphael
the z. A lot of questions were answered coming back
three months removed from being knocked out, we can say
four calendar months, but the days did not line up
for that for Ola Air. This was a really short
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turnaround from a devastating knockout loss and to still show
everything that he has. I think that was enormous. Now,
when you look at the division, I kind of disagree
with you in the Gamrot stance because I think this
was detrimental. I know that there was rumors he was
actually slated to be headlining November eighth that got sped
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up with taking this short notice that he demanded. You
did come in on twelve days notice. I do think
though his third loss in the UFC in another pivotal moment.
I believe Dan Hooker was the other one. When you're
looking at the losses for gam Rod are stacking up
with the names above him, I think that is going
to start to hurt him a bit where he was
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about to be a headliner, and he probably does need
a win streak to get back into the consciousness. Because,
as you said, the division is so deep, we can
probably assume all goes well. Mahashev is not returning to
one fifty five. Dan Hooker versus Armin sary Yuki in
most likely becomes a title eliminator and then you're thinking
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that Max Holloway, Patty pimblet that discussion has already begun
and Charles olavericate inner seat because Patty says, no one
wants to fight with me. Max was calling out for it.
But as soon as Charles said I want that BMF fight,
we saw that perk Max ears because you know that
can be a pay per view headliner on its own.
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I think that, as weird as it sounds, one more
win and you could find Charles Oliverain knocking on the
door of a title fight. As unlikely as that sounds,
maybe it's two more wins, but I'm just happy to
see that he didn't get flat lined three months after
getting flat lined.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well, a couple of things there. You have to go
back to December of twenty twenty one. In May of
twenty twenty two, the last time Olivera put together back
to back wins, So that's probably asking a lot. I
do think Gamrock could get lost in the shuffle because
of all those people there near the top, but I
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don't think the loss itself necessarily hurts him. I think
you could still try to him back out for a
Fight Night main event and the fans would buy into that,
and I certainly don't think the UFC holds it against him.
But if every win counts in every appearance you make counts,
you yes, pemblet rolls off another win or two, Hooker White, Yeah,
(09:00):
I could see a scenario where gam Rock could kind
of get lost in that shuffle. I just don't think
the loss itself necessarily hurts him, but that doesn't mean
he doesn't get lost in that shuffle for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think that's the biggest detriment is Grant Dawson is
coming up the pipeline ben while Stoni has refound himself,
hanatamway Kano is already beloved for his personality. You got Rafaelfhaziv,
Benil Daryus, and that's not even us talking about any
of the unranked guys that are coming. I don't think
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you lose much equity, but it is a possibility to
get lost in the shuffle with a guy like Patty
Pimbleck coming up, where a win here from gam Rock
got him right into the conversation. A loss now puts you, yeah,
more than a year, maybe two years away from the
title fight, because you're just looking at the names that
are ahead of you, and you're like, damn, they might
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have one, two, three title fights booked, and with the
activity of champions, they fight only twice a year. You're
already looking at your eighteen months out of the title picture.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I think with a win, he would have been in
the same situation, though assuming Pemblet wins, Hooker keeps going,
it never count out Gai Chee. You're not wrong. I
just think he might have been in the same position
even if he had beaten Olavera, depending on what happens
above him.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, now, yeah, but at least at that point you're
in the era, you're in the Olavera situation where an
injury to any one of those four guys and you're
sliding your name in there and then you're a de
facto number one contender all of a sudden if you
get a big victory. So I it does put him
back where you can't fault him for seizing the opportunity.
(10:48):
But let's just imaginarily say that he did fight November eighth,
got a main event win over somebody that was also ranked.
That probably put you where you could have got the
ola verified on a full camp.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Probably, And yes, look, you are right. If Paddy or
somebody stumbles above him in the rankings. He's not necessarily
in the same spot he would have been had he
beaten Olaver, So you are correct in that standpoint. But
all things being equal, I don't think he's any worse
for wear, but Walkee stuff tends to happen, and you
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need to put yourself in the best position to be
that guy they call on, and certainly the loss does
not help that for Gamrod.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Wild question, because we're gonna end up focusing a lot
more of this segment with Gamrod. I feel like, have
we hit a ceiling with him? Like I know, he stumbled,
came back and rolled off some wins, But if you
look at the stumbles, the hurdles, those roadblocks, they've all
been at that same level of trying to break through
to the top six, top seven. Is there a ceiling
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that we've hit with Gamrot's game? Not that well? Maybe
is it that we can't see him overcome and get
He is a worker, he is a volume guy. That
lack of finishing ability may starting to come out to
hurt him.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yes, he's got to break through. You look at his
last three losses. Daryush Hooker Olavera. Yes, all in that
same area that he was trying to break through in
the rankings. Until he can break through, I think you
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have to kind of operate on the assumption that he's
he's hit a stall. Doesn't mean he can't break through it,
but time isn't on his side, not that he's old
by any stretch, but he is thirty four, So yeah,
you do have to wonder can he break through and
(12:53):
get himself where he wants to be. Yeah, I think
that's a very fair.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Question because on our timeline that where's talking about, he's
thirty four, man, you're close to the thirty six thirty
seven by the time you were. If you break through
and everything goes right, that you're fighting for a title,
and that's kind of when guys are packing it up
in that division. So unfortunately for Gamra, Yeah, that lack
of finishing ability, not being able to break through at
this level, has cost him where the elite. A finishing
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ability of Charles Olivera, whether it be on the feet,
whether it be a jumping knee, it's one of those
submissions that he throws up off his back that is
just wild as hell. He is always a danger and
you saw the reaction to the crowd. I think that
also gives him a viability because we know this is
a legitimate headliner, like Charles Olivera has reached a place
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I think generally in the MMA space with fans that
only few fighters get to. Where for a guy that's
miss wait, for a guy that had problems earlier in
his career being labeled as a quitter, I think he's
kind of been assolved of a lot of those swat
sins to be beloved generally by the audience.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And look, that's the other asterisk. And what I just
pointed out the last time that Olavera won back to
back fight, that second fight was the fight he missed
weaighted against Gegee and was stripped of the title. That
being said, if he wants it, if Holloway wants it,
you're doing a BMF fight between those two, right, because
(14:24):
not only like you said earlier, can't can that main
event of pay per view, but it gets the winner
another step closer to a title shot. Right.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It makes a lot of sense. But I don't know
what the UFC already had planned, because before this going in,
it felt pretty solid to me that we're doing hookers
are Yukian and Holloway Pimblet, and that was our mini
tournament to get to a title fight. I don't know
if the Olavera Holloway, old guy beloved war is enough
(15:00):
for the UFC to say, hey, Patty, we're gonna kind
of just sit you. Because hooker saryuki In is already
on the books, and I believe that Toporia Gaegee is
what we're getting in January. I'd be a little more
shocked if we get in a sudden announcement that it's
ta Poria Pimblet and that's why we're okay with going
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with Holloway o Laveri, even though from a marketing stance
it would make sense. I just don't feel like that's
what the rumor and the tea leaves out there are
shaken or saying.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
The other thing that comes into play here, which no
fighter I guess other than Iliat Taporia controls, is there's
a good shot that he's only going to fight once
a year. I realize he did fight twice in twenty
twenty four, but you go back and look, he's pretty
much good for a fight a year, So that kind
of slows things down as well, for people trying to
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move up getting that next title shot, it kind of
forces more title eliminators and things like that.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I agree with you for the sake of the UFC
and the division. Hopefully, if we have him in January,
they can get him back by October November. Maybe we
could get two fights in the year out of Taboia.
It seems like we could ask that of our champions.
I'm not sure though, what direction it's gonna go in.
(16:22):
And there's even a case to be said if Hugh
does win in January, Islam Mahashev wins the welterweight title,
does Ilia continue to chase and follow and we know
that the UFC has said, oh, we don't like fighters
moving around this, that and the other thing. I feel
like Il Islam might be a special special case.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And that's another wrinkle in this. Your co main event.
Mike Diven some Fingerto, no matter how many times we
try to write him off, just does not go away.
He gets the split decision win over montel Jack. Well,
I didn't think it was the most dominating performance ever.
I also didn't get the split decision at all. I
thought personally, I thought Figurato won all three rounds. The
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scorecards were a little all over the place, but I
thought this was a really nice win for him.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Montel Jackson's scorecard. That that's ass. I'm sorry, I thought
he was going to win this fight, but that was ass.
I don't know how he has almost no output in
the first round is taken down in that round. Yeah,
he said. It was some pretty nice overhands in that round,
and a judge is able to find a way. Well,
there is one way I kind of understand it if
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you were listening to the commentary during that fight. There
was a moment where and this was a really weird
fight where Jackson's kind of stagnant, taking his position, very
statuesque and olive, and Fig EIGHTO is keeping maximum distance.
You probably could have fit two or three more fighters
in between the two of them. He is keeping maximum distance,
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and then he's running these almost nfl O wide receiver
like juking patterns to get on the inside towards his target,
woll binging in a big overhand or a big hook.
With all that movement, there was a punch that landed
in an overhand, and because of Jackson moving backwards and
almost trying to fade with the punch. You could hear
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Michael Bisboks say, oh that one just miss and then
John Hathaway no, no, no, I saw it on the screen.
It landed. That's how easy it is for a referee
to miss, or a judge that's outside the octagon without
a screen to miss what's going on. Because bisbing was
looking up at the fight as it was coming towards him,
and his colleague was looking down at the screen, so
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he was able to see it. That's how he end
up with these wonky score cards. But overall, I thought
that Jackson did nothing. He was relegated very defensive as
fig Eto showed veteran experience ring gentlemanship. He was able
to manage the fight very well. He was effective with
his blitzes, in his bursts, and in the takedowns. He
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was the more effective party, which it seemed to very
limit the Jackson forward pressure. He was scared of those takedowns.
A brilliant veteran performance from figy EIGHTO. He survives and
maintains his spot in the rankings. I'm not sure though,
what's next for him if you offer him someone above below.
We got some bad and weights fighting this weekend, maybe
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there's one there that intrigues us.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, he's in an interesting spot because at thirty seven,
I don't necessarily see him fighting up in his next fight,
although he could. But whoever you put him in there
with is going to be a good fight. Obviously, though,
if you're fig AIGHTO, you want to get back into
contingent for another title shot, so you're looking at the
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guys above you. But whomever they put him in there with,
it'll be a fun fight. So him getting booked and
getting booked when he's ready, it's going to be the issue.
It's just may not be who he's looking for.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It in no way is going to be who he's
looking for. I don't see a Sean O'Malley fight falling
out of the sky. We'll talk about what's next for
the champion. For some of the contenders, uh Umar's got Batista,
there are O'Malley Yadong rumors. This weekend, we've got amans
(20:23):
A Hobby Marlon Vera the winner. There might literally be
more realistic with the logjam that's already behind them.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Agreed, Agreed, Sanagan coming off a lot, I mean maybe.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
That well, Sanagan did just tear up Figgi's knee. I
don't know if you do a rematch within a calendar,
true true, true.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
So yeah, that's he's in a tough spot. But yeah,
that nice one for him. On Saturday, Joel Alvarez gets
a unanimous decision over Vicente Luke.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Talk about a tough spot, that's the best way to
say where Vicente Luke is at right now. Joel Avarez
definitely the right decision, though, go up to one seventy,
you're not healthy. At one fifty five, it was wearing
down the body, trying to make the way the jab,
the left hook, great weapons, seemed like a little bit
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tentative of his size or his cardio. That inverted triangle
was not going to get a finish, but it definitely
did trap in disarm Luke a for the third round,
easy sweep, even get a ten eight. There was a
ten eight, Carlisle, I know you call me a ten eater.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, you're a ten eater.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And there were ten eights in this fight, and Joel
Alvarez had a beautiful performance. This one puts in probably
like top twenty, Like we're looking to make some noise
for Joel Alvarez, but talking about making some damn noise.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Time out real quick, making some damn noise on a
ten eight. Here's the difference. Everybody was in agreement all
this one. All three judges scored that second round ten eight.
Sometimes it's just fucking ten eight, and there's no getting
around that. But I think it has to be something
really super dominating, and in this case, it was probably warranted.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Warranted, you know, you know, it's probably the time in
that episode where we uh, I guess, we got to
talk about rules and officials and one thing, it's become
normal in MMA to call your own fouls. This doesn't
pick up basketball, but we're calling our own fouls. The
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referees aren't sure what happens, and then when the referee
is told that the strike was legal, we still don't
restart in the fight. Joelle Alvarez cracks with Sentay Luke,
if you didn't see with the left hook it lands
right in the eye, knuckle right in the eye. All legal,
He says, it's an eyepoke. Gentlemanly Alvarez does not jump
all over that ass and finish him like he should have.
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The referee goes to the instant replays told it's a king,
and instead they bring in a doctor to assess Luke's
I Michael Bisbaning has a coronary on the mic that
the fight should have been stopped, because if you're stopping
the fight, it should have been a stoppage and a
victory for Alvas. I'm not sure if that's actually the rules,
(23:19):
but nobody understood what the rule was anyway, and unfortunately
for Alvarez, Luke got way more time to recover from
a legal strike than he deserved.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Well, I was always under the impression, if you go
to the video, the fight's over.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
They have now abbreviated that for the ipokes and for
the low blows, so that they can say if they
were clean or not to restart the action. That is
a rule that I believe has been inserted in the
last year, since the last ABC meeting.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Okay, okay, that makes a little more sense. Look, it
was a legal strike at that point, what are you
supposed to do? Restart just everybody at the rear you
want to fight?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Fight?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
No, Nope, it's so so. The issue here is bringing
the doctor into check on Luke after being affected by
a legal strike.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Exactly exactly you stopped the fight for a unnecessary medical precaution.
If you think it's it's damning enough to stop the fight, well,
the timer is still going because they said it was legal.
Stop the fight because they had already identified that the
strike was legal when they brought the doctor in it
and it was not between rounds. That's where the fight
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should have been over.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, I would agree agree with you at that point.
Either started back up immediately or if you're bringing the
doctor in, the fight's over.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
And also, just to my point, I'm pissed off for
Alvarez because as soon as they say that strike was legal,
the fight needs to commence because now Luke is getting
that recovery time. Why does he get to recover from
a legal strike exactly whether the doctor's in there or not,
we're just wasting time. Well, he is vulnerable, and that
was Alvarez's advantage that's being lost. Thankfully none of that
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came back to haunt him. I think it would have
been awful because Luke did come back and start firing hard.
If you do him by knockout, that kind of would
have been a travesty.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. What else do oh
freaking Mario Pinto good lord second round TKO victory for him.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Gadinia's is two one dimensional incredible kickboxer. Pinto shows he
can change up the game, gets the take down, all
well rounded, ground and pounds. It's almost unfortunate that we're
coming to this point. Did you realize what team they
said he fights out of? No team aspital Anthey, Dilia,
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Tom aspinall. There's at least two others. There's like five
heavyweights from one damn camp. We have no heavyweights and
we have one camp that's just ruling the division. I
don't know how we're gonna get good fights or Oh,
Nick Parkin that Mick Parkin, that's the other one I
was trying to think of. He's just outside of the
top fifteen. They don't want to fight each other because
they're all teammates. This is going to get a little awkward.
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Forget that for the moment, though, and let's just concentrate on.
Did you like the mic work showing off some Portuguese
faking Michael bisping out and the brit busting out with
all the love broth?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah, no, I was good to show a little personality. Yeah, look,
we'd all love it. To be all about the fighting
and all that and that's it, but it ain't.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So yeah, you know, you know what's just saying, you're
definitely right there, kind of awfully. Hey, great grappling. Ricardo
Ramos wanted to play on the ground. You got the submission.
Great job, Michael asked you, Junior. That was a late
stoppage from Lucas Almada one two. That is laughable that
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the Brazilian commission left the guy with the balloon on
his hand actually fight if you don't know after seeing
that way in photo, and that is on you, my people.
I'm not gonna say what I did, but that one
was quite obvious. And Jason Herzong that was the late
stopp is bro, you'ld let the man go down hard?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
How are you allowed to pass your medicals? Like?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
He didn't complain, He didn't tell them.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
He didn't have to tell them. All all you had
to do was glance down at his hand. It's terrible, terrible,
terrible stuff like that really bugs me because for those
out there who still knock mm may and human cock
fighting and all that bullshit and oh they don't care
about the fighters, Well, this plays right into that. I
(27:38):
get it. You're tough, Yeah, you're a warrior and all that.
Your fucking hand is three times as big as it's
supposed to be. You should not be fighting.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Oh that is all truth from Michael Carlile. Beatrice ms Squite,
the thirty five year old multiple time Brazilian jiu jitsu
world champion, dominant second round rear naked chokes me the
whole first round in Mountain. We're gonna see her move
quickly up these rankings. She is at an age and
we are at the numbers where we need more impactful people.
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Hopefully the maturation can continue there. At American Top Team
Julia Palestri, she had Carolina coovid Kaevis shook the bodykick
in the first round and was able to pour it
on for three rounds after that vicious stuff. Luan lecerta
great job with the arm bar. That's what happens when
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you miss weight by eight damn pounds. I didn't see
the percentage, but hopefully it was like fifty percent of
Ola Vera's check, if not more, because that is just
absurd to miss weight by that much.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Remember what I said about your hand being three times
the size is supposed to be Yeah, same thing applies
here when you miss weight by that much. Look pound,
pound and a half, two pounds, even two and a
half pounds. All right, everybody agrees to fight, that's fine.
You're starting off at an eight pound fucking advantage. That
should not be allowed.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
This ain't heavyweight, man, This ain't heavyweight. Exact shit was
ridiculous talking about heavyweights though. Also, congratulations to Victor Petrino
that's now two and zero up at the Land of
the Giants. That was a beautiful combination and you made
Thomas Peterson now live in infamy as a meme where
he looks like a dolphin.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Where he looks like a dolphin. Yeah, that was rough man.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
That was six finishes, seven prelimbs fights. Thank you Brazil
for the entertainment, exactly, Micah.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
We would be remiss if we didn't mention one of
the bigger moments of the night that didn't actually happen
during a fight, and that was Jose Aldo coming out
and retiring again, but doing it this time in front
of the home country crowd.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I don't want to sound like an asshole, but we're
kind of used to the robotic, the cold machine, the norm.
There's the status Q from the UFC, So when there's
something different happening, I was kind of confused for a moment,
Why is Jusie Aldore coming in? Is this dude about
to announce his return once again? And to see the retirement.
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It ended up being a beautiful scene. His family was emotional.
We know how beloved he is by the country. I
touched on it earlier in the show the crazy celebration
after the Chad Mendez knee. There are only few fighters
that are that endured by their community, so I could
see it. It was beautiful. Still tell you though, I
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was shocked that they did it because we don't see
this everywhere all the time from the UFC. But it
was a beautiful moment. I do commend them on it.
It was just surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
No, Look, we do need more moments like this, and
they can't be manufactured either. That's why I didn't have
a problem with UFC basically creating a pay per view
for Poier, right, because you were trying to give him
a moment. Now, you've got to be careful with it
because if it comes cross is fake and manufactured, that
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the fans can sniff that out easily. As well. But
this was a no brainer. Although doesn't want to fight anymore,
bring him out in front of the Brazilian crowd and
have him announced his retirement, put the gloves down and
all that. Everybody's going to eat that up. I thought,
this was a great moment. And you're right, in a
sport where we don't always have these touchy feeling moments,
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it's good sometimes when we get them.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Well, I was sitting there just so happened to be
wearing my Jose Aldo, King of Rio. Of course I was.
They were in Rio.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I felt like I needed the theme.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And then I saw him and and yes, it was
that Rick Flair moment, the tear in my eye. I
was so happy for all though, to see it all
come together, the King of Rio, the greatest featherweight of
all time, so much love and adoration for that man,
and you could see what it meant to that crowd
to be able to honor him, because we saw the
retirements in the States. The Hall of Fame injunction was
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in the States. You're right, that moment there in his
country the world to them and him.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yep, for sure, for sure. All in all, a great
night of fights in Rio. Deshoneiro from UFC. They are
back at it this weekend. They will keep it an
international Micah in Vancouver. We'll look at that card coming
up in just a bit, mikeh. A couple of things
to hit on real quick. About the time we got
(32:22):
done last week and got the episode posted. News comes down.
Connor McGregor gets an eighteen month suspicion a suspension for
violating the UFC's anti doping policy where he this was
more of a whereabouts issue than actually failing a test,
but failed to provide his whereabouts, so he therefore missed
(32:43):
three tests. Because he cooperated, the two year suspension was
dropped down to eighteen months. Conveniently, Micah, this will all
be over and done with in time for the White
House card.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Conveniently. This is and how US rule in house giving.
I don't know what they mean by cooperating, because cooperating
when the investigation would have just been, you know, citing
your whereabouts. Hey, wow, here's the penalty two years. Well,
you cooperated after we found you guilty, so yeah, we'll
drop that. Hey and timely it works out for us
(33:18):
that you get to fight at the UFC. This is
what you get with having in house take care of
these kind of situations, it feels like what could have
been one of the biggest stories in MMA goes by
the wayside because all of this now gets reported after
(33:38):
the fact because it was damning and detrimental to fighters characters.
When we did have continuous reporting of every dirty test,
and half of them came back to be dirty pharmaceutical
companies not putting actually what was on the product in
the label. So to save all that mudwak, we went
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to a system now where it's in house and we
get the results less news for the public and Connor McGregor,
and one of the biggest stories that feels like it
would have been, you know, clamoring the internets, Connor McGregor
running from drug tests, Connor McGregor failing drug tests. It's
all a lot to do about nothing because it's all
(34:23):
during a time where he wasn't even gonna fight. So
the punishment, the infraction, none of it really matters because
he wasn't gonna fight throughout this time anyway, and it
doesn't affect the time in which the planning to have
him fight.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Well a couple things here. This also comes the day
after Connor says he's taken a break from social media.
Very convenient. Correct me if I'm wrong. But the first
misstest they hadn't canceled the Chandler fight yet. Now they
may have already known it wasn't gonna happen, but it
hadn't been canceled yet. Here's the problem. And here's the
(35:01):
issue with bringing the drug testing in house. Even if
everything is completely on the up and up here, and
I'm not alleging it's not, but even if we operate
on that assumption, everything's done by the book, there's no chicanery,
there's none of that bullshit going on, it still stinks
to high heavens. That's why I think it's important to
(35:22):
have a completely independent outside agency handling these I know
UFC had some issues with USADA. Part of that also
revolved around Connor McGregor, but there were other issues as well.
But once you bring the drug testing in house, and
UFC is certainly not the only company to do that.
We just talked about PFL last week doing the same thing.
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But the waters start to become muddied, and when something
like this happens, it's human nature. We're just all like, huh,
this is all really convenient. Hell, you brought it up
and you're not wrong. Well this works out because suspension
is up in March. Connor says he wants to fight
on the White House card at the end of June.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Eh.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Wow, how lucky for the UFC and Connor that this
timing works out the way it does. And maybe it
is truly luck. Again, everything's on the up and up.
But it sure stinks to high heavens.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Micah, Oh, it really does. But it's up to you,
our audience, our listeners, to tell the UFC that you
care about the transparency of these situations and that this
matters to you because you're the only ones that can
affect change. You're the ones that affect the bottom line.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
We can't do it.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
We're reporting the news to you, guys. We could spout
from the high heavens how we feel this should be portrayed.
If this doesn't affect the bottom line, and if the
audience is able to portray that this doesn't matter to them,
it's not gonna change. I understand what you say. It
it can stink to high heavens. But if there's only
you know, ten media members that care about the bad smell.
(37:01):
I don't know what that matters in the grand scheme
of things. You're right, it does stink to Hil, but
it's not a huge story, and it doesn't seem to
bother a lot of people, and that's an even bigger travesty.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I think it is a huge story. You're right, doesn't
seem to bother that many people, but it probably should.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It should, it should. I'm pretty sure if it wasn't
a fighter that wasn't a lot of people's favorite fighter,
then then maybe it would. But I think that people
would rather keep this circus going than hammer the circus.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, for being a circus. Agreed a couple of other things, Mike,
you brought it up either last week or a week before.
Gable Stevenson, you're gonna dip his toe into dirty boxing
at the end of this month October thirtieth, in Nashville, Tennessee.
Stevenson says this is the next step in his progression
and he's looking to make his UFC debut on that
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White House card. We were just talking to talking about,
what do you think about Gable Stevenson's prospects for meeting
that timeline and hitting a UFC debut at the White House.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
It's definitely possible. He's a big enough personality. They're going
to hit the ground running with him, and if he's
able to handle all the requisite tests, I think he'll
make it there. Three more fights in the next four
months five months to get then the UFC attention and
to then get on the card by June. I don't
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think it's that far fetch to have a six to
eight week camp for that debut to fight somebody at
the bottom of the heavyweight division. It almost feels like
a good idea to do the dirty boxing because I've
been around the amateur scene in the local scene long
enough that when you get a killer Monster d one wrestler,
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you will see these guys come out get put right
into MMA fights and they are able to manhandle their
opposition that has not been wrestling their entire life. Some
of these guys will get force fed into matchups that
they don't belong in because of how great they look
and dominant they look with the grappling with Sometimes there's
submission game that applies to that wrestling, and I always
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look at those guys and you need a kickboxing match,
you need a boxing match. You need this stuff in
your amateur days to be able to put together all
the requisite tools to be a complete mixed martial artist. Well, Gable,
I'm not sure if there was even an opportunity for
him to go amateur in MMA, if anybody would even
take that fight. So this is as close as he's
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going to get to testing out his striking. Well, I'm
a little worried of it. It's probably not a bad
idea to make Gable use his hands and let's see
if he can appropriately apply striking before he's in over
his head, because he should be able to dominate with
his wrestling on the regional scene.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yep, I'm with you. Before we get to fight announcements,
and we got some big fight announcements, we've got some
fighter removals. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Came across it in the last couple of weeks. The
UFC roster has lightened a bit, and it's always lightning,
it's always adding, but these names specifically drew interest because
some of them weren't active, but they were just kind
of hanging around still on the roster taking up space.
Not sure if these guys have been released or contracts
just ran up, but Joe Loson, we know the New England,
(40:33):
longtime UFC VET, incredibly entertaining fighter. He is gone, Real
Estate mogul I ale at Quinta is gone, Jiu Jitsu Ace,
Ryan Hall, and intriguingly enough, the polarizing figure of Nick Diaz,
who earlier this year we were talking about him possibly
(40:54):
fighting in Abu Dhabi or was that last year?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Might have been last year.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
M'd have been the end of last year, like August
October last year.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Here's the thing though, Ryan Hall last fight December of
twenty twenty one. Joe Loson, last fight October of twenty nineteen,
Iya kent To last fight November of twenty twenty one.
Nick Diaz last fight September of twenty twenty one. These
guys were basically retired, at least from a UFC MMA standpoint.
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My guess would be the contract time just ran out.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Good guess. I just found it interesting to see those
names kind of the internet making waves that they were
all officially gone from the roster. Another guy gone from
the roster, Justin Tafa. We saw him missweight at heavyweight.
He had announced on social media he was going to
be stepping away from fighting. Maybe one day he'd be
able to return, citing something like six surgeries in the
(41:54):
last three years. It's official now that he is no
longer on the UFC roster. UFC vet Uriah Hall has
announced his next move. You guys can see him in
the fight pit. He is going to be joining Karate Combat.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Fight announcements including we get our main event and Comaine
event for UFC three twenty three to finish out the
year in December.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
And most of the card, So let's go. Carlisle already
said at December sixth, Las Vegas last pay per view,
possibly at the pay per view error, definitely of the
ESPN plus error. Morab Dwalash Philly has once again reclaimed
his spot as a headliner. We saw it in the Spear,
now we'll see it in T mobile. He's going to
run it back with Peter Yon an attempt to make
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history with his fourth title defense in one calendar year.
The co main event. Well, we already knew what that
was thanks to Michael aswell Junior telling us it at
the UFC Fight Night. I wonder if that's going to
get a talking to because he's all us, Hey, Dana,
I want to be on the same card as my
boy Joshua who's challenging Alessandre Pantojia for that flyweight title. Well,
(43:04):
now that fight is official for the co main event
if we didn't already know it, Like I just told you,
the card will also see at flyweight Tatsuo ya Tira
taking on Brandon Moreno. Henry Sejudo will take on a
former protege of his, Peyton Talbitt. Yes, they do have
a history together, Jan Blahovich Bogdan Guskov at light heavyweight.
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At lightweight, you get the number fourteen, Grant Dawson versus
Mexico's Manuel Torres. You get Fra faraz Ziem versus Nazim SHATIKV.
That's also at lightweight. And again at lightweight, we get
Terrence McKenny, Chris Duncan, and just added before we got
on the show, Marvin Vittori versus Bruno Fajta. You get
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to see a Bruno there. So a whole lot of additions.
Yes I was making that Bruno reference. You have a child,
now you get what I'm talking about. So a whole
shit ton of fun at to that card. That is
a stacked ass pay per view. I'm guessing we got
the main card and most of the meat of the
prelims announced right there.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
No, I'm with you, and that's a heck of a
way to end the year, a heck of away at
least for now, to end pay per views as in
January they move over to Paramount Plus and and CBS. Yeah,
I love this card.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Backtracking on some announcements, UFC three twenty two on November
fifteenth gets an addition MSG Sean Brady Michael Morales. Oh
big implications there in the welterweight division. Never really backtracking,
We've got some fight night announcements. November one, monsterret the
Roriz will be taking on Alice at DeLine and Charles
(44:47):
Radke versus Daniel Ferunza both added to the fight Night
in the Apex on November one. The November eighth Fight
Night in the Apex, Josh Hokeit will make his UFC
debut against Max Jim Means, and we're gonna get Ishmael
bond theme versus Chris Padilla on the same card that
Bomb Fiend's brother will be headlining, so that'll be cool
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for the Bond themes. Austin Bashi is out Hyder and
Mali is jumping in to take on Jamal Emers, also
on that card, and that rounds out the fight announcements
for this week.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
All right, UFC back at it this weekend. They are
in Vancouver for a Fight Night Love. This main event
top ten middleweights number four Rainier de Ritter takes on
the ninth ranked middleweight Brendan Allen.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
And if you guys remember Brendan Allen jumping in on
short notice replacing Anthony Fluffy Hernandez who did lose to
two fights ago. Four fights in the UFC for Rainy
of the Ridder, He's on a five fight win streak.
The man has eighteen finishes in his twenty one wins,
with fourteen coming by submission. He got the split over Whittaker,
the knee that crumbled bow Nickel, an RNC over Kevin Holland,
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and then we also had the arm triangle debut over
Gerald Mershard crashes In has lethal knees. His striking has
started to look a little bit better throughout his time
in the UFC. He has ruthless forward pressure. But the
chin is how high in the air. We saw it
get caught and nearly knocked off by Robert Whittaker. So
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there's a lot to love and some things to worry
about from a right near the rider, who's an imposing figure,
had like six foot four, but he's not an athletic
specimen Brendan Allen. His last three fights are a win
over Marvin Vttori, and then we also had a pair
of decision losses hernandez Any mav Off. He has a
solid ground game, but it is nowhere near the level
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of RDR. Even though these two both come in fourteen
submission wins a police both with black belts, but there's
different levels of black belts and the way that they
implement him. There is some hesitations in the control aspect.
Alan will not be able to control guys as well
as they rid terious, but he is the sharper striker.
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You have to think that he can land the more
powerful shots. I said he had two decision losses in
his last three fights, but he's eight and two in
the last ten. He has the higher level of experience
being in the UFC for so long, even though RDR
has been fighting some of the great greats throughout Asia
and Europe. If you're thinking RDR is gonna win this fight,
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because he's gonna get it to the floor. He's gonna
put Alan in trouble. He's gonna be able to wear
on Alan with that relentless pressure. If you're Alan, you
need to drag this one into deeper waters. See if
we can test the cardio of our dr and you're
gonna need to be able to effectively nullify the pressure,
find the chin and keep landing big shots. We know
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that Alan has a ground game. He has got to
stay away from the ego and attempting to use this
if he's gonna be successful. I have a feeling that
he gets trapped into playing the grappling game, though, and
that eventually this one will turn out in r DR's favor.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
For those interested in such things, De Ritter a minus
two fifty favorite, Brendan Allen a plus two to ten underdog.
Coming into this one.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
The co main event Kevin Holland Mike Mallott. It feels
like it's been a couple of days since Kevin Hollins
been in the octagon. He probably needed to get back there. Sure, Yeah,
you know, he likes to stay active.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
It had been a week or so.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Holland, coming off of a loss to Daniel Rodriguez, got
out pointed on the feet. They basically slugged it out,
and that was following wins over Luke and Gunner Nelson.
Every time, every freaking time you want to buy in,
you want to call up your broker and be like, man,
get me that Kevin Holland stock, it just plummets once again.
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Inconsistency is his biggest vulnerability by low.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
It's so hi mikeh Holland a plus one thirty underdog,
Bye bye bye ma Lot.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
A two fight win streak since getting Neil magneied. He
got Neil Magni. That happens to a lot of guys.
Then he comes back against Giles and Radkey. I think
he has the advantage on the outside trying to move
and be a flowier striker. We saw getting put on
his back was his detriment against Neil Magni. But a
lot of people that I've seen their breakdowns. It suggests
(49:22):
that ma Lot needs to get the takedown, use his
more methodical thought process and outthink Kevin Holland. Here, Holland
is the longer, lengthier fighter he can crack, so maybe
that is the right thought process. Even though he has
a black belt jiu jitsu, his wrestling has been suspect
at points, but that was more at middleweight. I think
there's a real danger in this fight for me lot,
(49:44):
because Kevin Hallam might just have the right attributes to
make this fight stay on the feet and then use
his reach advantage.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
In the feature fight. This is that ban and weight
fight that I speculated about earlier, where I think the
winner might meet Davidson Figuido. You got Marlon Vera. We've
seen him get all the way to a title fight.
We've seen him have some tremendous comebacks. A huge power puncher,
but he struggles with Cardio if you're able to make
him work. He takes on Aiman Zahabby, a methodical fighter
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who is very game plan oriented. He brings a variation
of strikes combinations. He's not athletically imposing, but he stays
within himself. He recognized who he is and much high
credited Figyaido for managing fights. That's what Zahabi is able
to do. Coming off of the biggest win of his
career over Joseyaldo, a fight that again he out fought
(50:38):
Joseyaldo everywhere. I like a lot of the ascension that
a hobby is on versus a Marlon Vera, who he
needs to land the one big shot, and we've seen
that if you're able to overwhelm him, he's gonna kind
of be a slow starter. So I think in early
getting going from Zahabi will snowball a against Marlon Vera.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Zahabi a minus two fifty favorite vera plus two ten underdog.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
We get a huge rebound opportunity for the frenchwoman, Manor Fiort.
She's coming off of the second loss of her MMA career.
This one was the one, the big one to Valentina Chevchenko.
She takes on the ascending Canadian Jasmine Jazz de Vicius Fiort.
She has her k karate style, she has the better footwork,
she's the more experienced striker, and she has a really
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high level of takedown defense. Only Chevchenko has been able
to put her in vulnerable positions on her back. I
say that because we saw how the fight turned out
for Aaron Blanchefield. Jasmine Jazz de Viscias has that Aaron
Blanchfield kind of game. We've seen a five fight win streak.
A really good grappler beats androge Myra Bunoso is a Lipski,
(51:52):
but it always sticks out to me. We were there
live in Colorado at the fight night where she beat
Fatima Klein, but that was Klein's short notice debut up
a weight class, and Klein was landing really well in
the striking. That gives me a lot of pause. That
can Jazz Divisius be able to hang with Fiort on
the feet? I think this one goes the distance and
(52:12):
I'm favoring the French woman in it because of that
experience on the feet and her ability to shut down takedowns.
Maybe Jazz Divisius rises to another level and that home
country advantage is able to play in. But I feel
like this is a hard one for her stylistically because
we've expected grapplers to take out Fiort before and only
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one the top of the pedigree has had success with it.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yes see, I like Jazz Divisia is just a little
bit more than I do for Roh, but it is
almost a toss up for sure.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Opening up the main card, you got Matt Freevola versus
Kyle Nelson and at least once an episode. I like
to say this basically the same dude, Okay, I'll tell
you that for Vola, heavier hand, more adjusted to the
lightweight division. I think he's the better fighter, but when
we talk about the grappling, the aggressive, they share a
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lot of similar attributes. I favor free Vola slightly with
his higher level experience in that one. We get on
down to the prelims. There's a whole host of preliums
and I actually got four that I want to highlight.
We have Charles Jordayne. I think this is going to
be the second time we're seeing him at one thirty five.
I was suspect on how he would make the way cut.
(53:27):
He looked phenomenal in the debut. He is a big
guy for the division. He is the younger guy in
this matchup. David Grant is one dimensional in comparison to
the guillotine and the grappling that Jordaane possesses. I feel
like Grant has to land a big left hand. There's
just more diversity and opportunities for Jordayne to get the victor.
(53:49):
I think he's a more trickier striker with his variation
of strikes. He can throw out more kicks. Grant has
one big left hand. I think this one should favor Jordaane,
but that left hand is a bomb.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Did Jordaane suffer an injury in his last fight? He's
been gone for a while, right, Yeah, he fought three
times in twenty twenty four, the last being November of
last year, but this is his first fight this year.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I'm not sure. I haven't even seen his name circulate.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, I have. Maybe he was just taking some time away,
or if there was an injury he was recuperating from.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
We also have on the pre limbs hung Sung Park.
Couldn't he reestablish himself? He was three to zero in
the UFC the short known as lost to Tatsuya Tira.
It exposed the grappling a bit. Even though he is
considered to be a very well rounded guy. In this matchup,
he's the more polished striker. I think he is more
defensively aware than a Bruno Silva, who does have a
(54:45):
higher level of jiu jitsu and a big punch. But
he's an older guy. We've seen the holes in his game,
and I think that the upside is so much more
on Park that I think he can be aggressive to
a wild point. That's the only thing to really be
aware of this fight. Does he put him out self
out of position to give up easy takedowns. If he
stays within himself, I think he gets that victory that
(55:06):
puts him back on the trajectory we thought he would
be on because he wasn't supposed to fight ty around
that last fight. He was supposed to keep climbing against
another requisite test. As I keep going on the prelimbs
middleweight division, I believe it's a middleweight fight. We get
Danny Barlow versus to Jordan Santos. This one a lot
(55:28):
of fun on the feet. Both guys consider to be strikers.
How does Barlow rebound from the first loss of his career.
We know that he's a sharp puncher. He looks to
operate on the feet. There's a lot that he needs
to reclaim because he was a top level prospect got
put down hard. This one. There's a lot of get
back for him. He's going to be taking on Jordan Santos.
(55:49):
Samptos won on the Contender series, lost a disputed decision
in his debut against Ozzy Diaz. He can mix up
the game and for him best it's going to be
having to disrupt the risdom of Barlow, where it looks
like Santos may have a little bit more grappling in
his back pocket, but for the most part, I think
this one gets decided on the feet and should be
(56:10):
a lot of fun. Second fight on the card oz
Matt Buk the former LFA champion eight wins by knockout,
eight wins by submission, eight fight win streak, solid takedown
defense and grappling, a three fight win streak for his opponent,
the debut of Yusory Belgari, a Alex Ferreira training partner,
(56:31):
a Glover to share a trained fighter, a phenomenal kickboxer
with devastating power. Kem Buka get this one to the
ground with his more well rounded game or does he
get tuned up by a very elite level striker.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Well Gary the biggest underdog on the card at plus
three eighty five Becca of minus five hundred, your biggest
favorite on the card.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
They're thinking that takedown defense is not going to be
there from Belgari. I'm intrigued to see how that one
plays out. It's a crazy debut. Ozma has twenty three
MMA fights, Bulgari has eleven, so there's double b experience
going against him. Maybe the matchmakers say that kickboxing experience
gives you enough that it's an even fight, but this
(57:16):
is gonna be an uphill climb. Like you know how
Audasania and Perira debut with fights where we kind of
felt like they probably were a little bit favored. Yeah,
Algari not getting such the treatment.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yeah yeah. Pre lims a four pm Eastern time on
ESPN Plus. Your main card from Vancouver gets underway at
seven pm Eastern Time on Saturday night, also on ESPN Plus.
What else have we got this weekend?
Speaker 2 (57:42):
Micah, Well, this weekend, there's a couple of things going
on around the world. First, for the people paying attention
for the PFL, you do have the PFL Africa Rwanda event.
It is the semifinals for all the weight classes in
the regular season tournament. If you're checking out Octagon Octagon
(58:02):
seventy eight this week in Cologne, Germany, we've been talking
about them. You have top German welterweight prostick prospect Christian
Eckerlin on the card. You have unbeaten women's bannam weight prospect.
We know we need more bannonm weights in the UFC.
Alina Dalasana, We'll see if she can improve to four
and zero and in a battle between unbeaten light heavyweights
(58:27):
Patty Lesner as I like to call him now, Frederick Vascon.
He is back very quickly. He's taking on Samuel Charberia,
both guys unbeaten. Another European top prospect to come out
of that fight. Also Saturday, we have the KSW one
eleven event from the Czech Republic. Phil de Friese, the
(58:50):
Team aspinall Brazilian jiu jitsu coach, looks for his thirteenth
title defense when he's challenged by Stephen Vakjack Vakjack three
fight win stream, all coming by knockouts. KSW light heavyweight
title fight. Also raw file, Hartekaia defends against the submission
(59:10):
Savvy Bartow's LESCo. That is Saturday, you have a whole
ton of international fights and something I forgot to mention
in the news section of the show. Uh huh, we
have an update. Officially, I had announced telling you guys
BKFC we were gonna do Dave Mundell, the middleweight champion
(59:30):
moving up to light heavyweight to challenge Josh Dyer for
his title. Hardy told you that Mundel had said, Hey,
they put out a poster contracts not signed. Now seeing
several sources throughout online speculating appears yeah, that fight not
official at all and has been canceled. We will no
longer get Mundell moving up to challenge Dyer. It's looking
(59:53):
like BKFC is in search of a replacement opponent. The
plan appears to still be at this time for Josh
Dyer to defend his light heavyweight title November fifteenth in California.
Opponent to be named. Interesting development with BKFC and to
keep our audience also informed because I brought it up
(01:00:15):
like maybe earlier in the month. I now know the date.
October twenty eighth on Netflix, you get the season debut
of Physical one hundred, so you still have a couple
weeks to catch up on the other seasons before Robert
Whittaker and many pakiaw hit Netflix.
Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Oh there you go, anything else, Micah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Cageminds dot com is the place to go. Got to
talk with UFC featherweight Danny Silvana too long ago, so
that one is up online and the return a formerly
ranked top five middleweight and BKFC Josh Moreno. Both of
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