Those Old Movie Guys Towering Inferno...And F#$k Ewoks

This episode of "Those Old Movie Guys"  Mole N' Andre talk "Towering Inferno" starring Steve Mcqueen, Paul Newman, Fred Astaire among many many other A list celebs and OJ Simpson.....also starring a very young at the time sister of my Co-Host Carlena Gower!!! Also get yourself some of our sponsor "Prince Nana Coffee" right here at this link https://princenanacoffee.com/?ref=MOLE 

Episode Transcript

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So welcome everybody. We are backfinally after a long it seems like years,
it's been months at least. Uh, those old movie guys. I
am all and I'm here with mypartner Andre Gower. Andre, how are
you, sir? Doing good?Doing good? I'm glad to be out
and about I mean, it hasbeen a while. And and you know,

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in the past couple of shows wehave talked about such classes as stand
by Me, Read Dawn and today. Uh this was actually an Andre pick
from the last time we had talked. And Uh, he's got a special
reason behind it. The movie iscalled Towering Inferno, and uh it was
such a great movie. But thereason I think he picked it mainly,

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Uh, he's a little partial toone of the co stars in the movie.
And uh, I do believe heknows this person very well. Uh,
Andre, who was in this moviethat that you would know? Uh,
alongside Steve McQueen and Paul fucking Newmanfor christ sake, Yeah, don't
forget uh, the Fred Astaire andRichard Richard Wagner and remain Robert and William

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Holden and Fate Dunaway and Jennifer Jones, a young Dabney Coleman has seen in
it. Also Mike looking Land fromthe Brady from the Brady Bunch, yes,
uh. And then Susan Blakely whowas a you know, a huge

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soap star for for many years,but then also rounding out that giant gas
which wasn't everybody, by the way, but by far. No, the
little girl in that movie, AngelaAlbright, is actually my sister. Yes.
So my sister Carlina was in TheTowering Inferno. Yes, and she

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did very well. They had tomake her do a little double duty there.
In a couple of scenes she wasmoving some chairs, she was signing
sign language and and stuff. Didcha that to learn sideway? I didn't
catch her hands, you know.I think that's funny. I think they.
I think they did have someone kindof do some sort But then I
used to make fun of her thatshe's not doing anything but that. Yeah,
maybe i'll ask her later today.Yeah they I was always caring.

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Hey, by the way, thatgot asked if I told you you weren't
really signing? Uh, so likeyou just said that. You know,
Fred Astaire was in this movie,Frey Faye, don't away, Steve McQueen,
All these legends were in this movie, and well you would know for
it, how did how did yoursister Like did she just audition and then
did they just called right away orlike did she have to like go through
many calls for it or what waswhat was going on with that? Yeah,

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I think it was just that wasvery early in her well existence,
but also in her career. TheYeah, I think they you know,
they had just they being my parentsand my sister I was just born.
We had just they had been downin LA for a year or so,
and I don't I think it wasjust an audition process like anything else,

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and got cast in this role andand then she was on that set for
you know, weeks and weeks.So it's I mean, that was a
giant production. And you know,at the time, if anybody knows the
movie or is interested, like youcan go and search you know kind of
like these archival YouTube videos and makingof and BTS type things of how they

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build scale models. I mean,everything was practical. There was no digital
effection. Yeah, even all thefire and the is all real. Yeah,
I mean, oh god, andthat there's even some scenes like one
of my favorite scenes in this inthe whole movie, like is when oh,
I wrote it down here because Iwanted to make sure that I got
some points here from what you know. Watching his I was like, oh,

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I remember now, and then uh, where was it? Oh yeah,
okay, I can't remember the guy'scharacter, but he was in the
building of course with his Uh Ithink it's his wife maybe or not.
No, no, no, itwas like, uh she was like maybe
his mistress or something, and uhyeah yeah rubber wagon, Yeah yeah,

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that's it. Was the secretary,Yes, his secretary. And the thing
is my favorite line is that hecovers himself with a wet towel right before
he goes out the door, andhe goes, uh, what was it
for? Paid him? Yeah?Yeah, okay, he goes, uh,
I used to run the one hundredand ten flat and then just to

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run out and then immediately engulfed inflames. It's just just not good.
I'm I'm like, oh god,that was horrible. But it was such
a like I was like, ohmy god, Like he did not just
say he bragged all about it andthen just ran out right. Yeah,
it's not supposed to be a comedy, but I laughed my eyes. Yeah

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that was actually it's it's kind ofit's kind of comical. It's but you
know that whole thing that there's alot. I mean, it's obvious,
but some people miss it. Likeearlier, apparently he has like an apartment
adjacent to his office on the eightyninth floor or whatever it is, and

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they shut off the phones to theoffice so they can't call for help,
and no one knows where they are, and and then he even like tries
to find and he like pretends thatthey're on the other line. So he's
he's just be guessing his whole wayout of their demise, yeah, or
into their demands. Yeah, thatwas always a uh that's a great stunt
because when the and I don't recallwho the actual stunt man is that when

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he walks up and goes on fireto walk into that giant thing, and
you know, there's it's it's kindof a very complex stunt because he runs
out and then like something you knowkind of you know, flashes at him
and he runs the other way andhe's crashing through furniture and it. You

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know, if you ever watch orif you know anything about stunts and especially
firework, you know they're usually inthese giant suits and their faces are covers
in you can't see anything, andyou're carving in this gel and these big
heavy materials, and you know he'strying to run around and it's a it's
a cinematically, it's a great shotbecause it's kind of in slow mo but

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not really and he's just kind ofrunning around and he's just he's a literal
toast. Yeah, and then hejust stops and then he falls over the
side and he just crashes through theplace, you know, kind of balcony
there, and then is uh isyou know, well done? And then

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you know, Susan Blake is sitand watch that, and like she she
was very I believe you know,she goes and she gets you know,
punted out the window. Now thethe I think in that now it's not
the only person that technically falls outof the tower, but she gets kind

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of blown out and it's kind ofon fire, and that stunt looks a
little bit, I mean, that'scrazy, that's all practical. That's somebody
jumping out and elevated something on fireand into into a into an airbag.
But and then some people kind offall out of the of the of the
very very tiny in the penthouse andthe promin the party room. But yeah,

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there's a lot of stunts. There'sjust the fire. It was all
real and you know, even firefightersand everything. You know that they had
real firefighters on set obviously and evensome of the actors. And even though
it was all there's some there's someshots with fire that are really really cool,

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and then others you can you know, you can kind of tell this
kind of movie fire even if it'sfake, but it's you know, propane
based and shot out at you.But hey man, that'll get you to
And then the fires creeping on theceilings and like coming up door jams and
stuff. You're like, yeah,that's not this is this is a literal
nightmare. Yeah, dude, that'scrazy like that. I don't understand how
they could, like they made itlook uncontrolled, but you know what I

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mean, but it was controlled atthe same time. Like I don't understand
like movie magic. Really, Idon't understand, like how they can do
that in a controlled environment but makeit look like it's legit out of control,
like you know, like well that'swhat you know, uh, model
work, and I think they builttwo or three different scale model of the
tower for the exteriors, and youknow, and then this is all,

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this is all how movies used tobe made, and you know, and
this is in the probably in thepeak of the ability, along with model
work and camera work and matt paintingwork, which used to be a skill.
Right now it doesn't exist. Mattpainting died at the end of the
eighties, but Matt painting people alot. I don't know, there's actually

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artists that, like, you know, hand paint these amazing landscapes or city
scapes on these giant canvases that arelike the size of you know, building
sides, you know, the sidesof building and it's actually in camera and
they they they shoot that plate.But yeah, I mean in towering in
front of there's two or three scalemodels of the building and then all these
sets on different lots. Because thefirst one of the first movies, if

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not the first movie that two majorstudios ever teamed up to share budget and
actually make the prime I think itwas Fox and Tony Tree, Fox and
Warner Brothers if I'm mistaken, butyeah. The only unfortunate thing now is
that it's technically a Fox title,which is now owned by Disney, Right,

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how how does that work? Though? Like, honestly, if it
was a joint you know project,well, I think they worked all that
up the beg who actually gotcha thedistribution rights and lost Yeah yeah, look,
yeah stuff it didn't go to schoolfor but yeah. But you know,
and the interesting now that you knowwe've encountered over the last couple of

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years is this is the fiftieth anniversaryof timing in front of Oh I didn't
even think about that. Yeah,and you would. What's crazy is you
would think this is a great youknow, opportunity for people to kind of
do like, you know, retroscreening and maybe invite some of the cast
that's still around and do something.And you know, most of the cast
is gone and some are still kicking, right they are. I don't think

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they're kicking hard. But but youknow I was, you know, me
being someone that does always does eventsand appearances all over and I know some
great venues and places you know,like you know, the Alamo Draft House
and things like that. There's I'msure there's some reason that they do it.

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But I've tried for you over likethis last year to put together kind
of like a reading screening and havelike Mike and my sister show up as
the guests, you know, andyou know, celtickets and signs some stuff.
And it's very if you're a theaterthat Disney has a rule and now
this is a Disney title. Ifyou're a theater that shows first run Disney

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movies, you cannot show old titlesever. Really, so if you're like
a multiplex or a two screener oreven a one screener that shows first run
Disney Disney movies you can show.You can't show tarn infronto even as like
a kind of retro cool screening atmidnight on a Friday or something. They
won't allow it. That is bogus. Quote Billain's head. Uh, that

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is completely bogus. You should beable to wherever. Plus it's hard.
It's a long movie too, soalmost three hours. Yeah my uh,
I mean my sister just went upto ironically to San Francisco because someone did
do a screening of it and invitedlike the local firehouse because you know it's
where that's where the movie takes placein San Francis, and you know,

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it was it was interesting and youknow, packed house and a lot of
people come because people know and lovethis movie. And I've been trying to
get Carlen and Mike you know,in a vine or feed or somewhere to
you know, all this summer andeverything. It's like people they can't,
they can't show it. It's tough. It's tough to make those work.
They can't even Like what if youbooked out a park, you know,

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like a public park. Oh,you can do that and then do it
and have a whole thing like that, like I mean technically you know,
yeah, technically the Andrew Park becauseyou're not a venue. But then you've
still got to if you're going thelegit what You've got to call the office
that handles that and license, youknow, and pay the license fee to
show it. And then most studios, like I don't even Sony's the worst

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or the best, but they chargea feed plus they want like half of
your gate. Oh Derek Storting,that's nowhere around now. It's like,
yeah, sometimes it ends up notbeing worth the squeeze. Wow, jesus.
So on the uh, you know, the there's a lot of negatives,
I guess then trying to put ona positive. That's kind of weird.

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You figure they'd want their product tobe more publicized. You and I
think some I think the the weirdbehind the curtain, behind the door to
send a roads castle since it's it'ssomething to do with like well, you

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know, they keep all of theirtitles, uh, you know, vaulted
and you know, if they everwanted to put out a product, then
it would be fresh and there's solelyand nothing would be like, nothing would
dilute it. And I was like, so a screening in Omaha's dilute You're
you know, making a Blu rayoff. It's not gonna happen. So

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I don't know. They have theyhave their business practices and you know they
they obviously know more than I dobecause they have a lot more money than
I did. Yeah, you knowwhat they do know how to pitch give
them that uh they make millions outof uh you know, yeah, you
know, and say say what youwant about Disney, you know that.

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I think now it's really interesting becauseof the Star Wars. You know,
the world is you either have andit's almost it's almost a mirror of our
current political world. Is you wereeither one on one side of the extreme
or the other side of the andyou're either one side or the other,
and you're in the extremes, right, and you're wi which are you know,

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extremes of anything are never good.They're the ones that need to disappear.
They It's funny because people like I'mat Disney, you know, and
they they go like three times amonth to Disneyland or something or once a
week or and they's like, well, I'm just going back to see the
Millennium Falcon. I'm like, didn'tyou do that last year? I did

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that last month and I gotta go. I'm like, I don't know.
That's a lot, like when it'swhen it's one hundred dollars for a truro
at Disneyland to have a snack,and I just I understand things cost more,
but it really ain't. I don'tknow, but people get it.
And I know people live in Floridathey're like that, and people that live
in California. I lived in Floridafor a whole year, right, just

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one year. That's all I couldtake. But I was down to Florida
for a year and I managed toonly go to Disney Walk, you know,
like right before you get into Disney, like right and it cost me
a fucking fortune just to go there. Like I'm lucky. My kids were
like not having it. So we'relike, all right, disney Walk school
we go. We lived here fora year and see the fireworks from my
house every night. We're good.That's really what I need is because the

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fireworks show, that was it.You know, we used to go in
high school, you know, growingback in LA you'd go, I don't
know, you'd go to Disneyland maybelike once a year or once every two
years, and that was plenty becausethere was nothing new, like nothing ever
really changed when I was like andthe only thing new that ever went to
Disneyland that changed from when I wasa little kid to like probably through high
school and don't come at me Disneyyou know fan you know, like the

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Super Disney because I have I Ihave like fifty friends that are just fanatin
and I'm like, I get it. Go have fun. Like I know,
I don't want to go to Disneylandagain this weekend. I'm weird,
like coming old day. But Ithink the only thing that changed and like
I would maybe the fifteen years thatI ever went spand was they added the

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Captain EO yep. We went,oh, we gotta go see that when
we saw it and was like itwas it was but no, my yeah,
it was. You know, andpeople they they have it, right,

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I mean they have the Really allDisney is when you look at it's
just a licensing machine. They justwant to sell stuff that has their logos
on it, and they do.And that's what happened when Star Wars was,
you know, sort of this niche, kind of cool world, and
then Disney got it. And nowlike you used to not see Star Wars
like licensing right right, George wasvery even though they sold a lot of

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those. But then like all ofa sudden, Disney gets it. You
know, I'm buying like a Wookietowel and a droid bath Matt and you
know, a soap dispenser BB eightand you're just like, you know,
you know, you're everything. Yeah, oh that guy, well how cute
to see, right, I mean, I get it, but that it's

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always a little cute thing. Andthen but that's what we have to really
understand. Look, I'm I'm anoriginal, huge Star Wars, same nerd
fan, and you know, Idon't I enjoy some of the new stuff,
but you also have to realize thatall these you know, like I
said, the other extreme of theDisney world, like people that hate on
it and like it's not made foryou, relax, right right right exactly.

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Either go see it, you paidyour money, or you streamed it
and you didn't like it. Idon't. I don't need to know on
on on Instagram because really, whenit comes down to it, like it's
okay, like yeah, and Disneydon't get They're gonna keep making it no
matter what. He didn't care becauseyour one your one negative voice too.

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I didn't like the episode of theMandalorian and because they weren't, they didn't
do what I wanted to do.It's a whole of this thing where some
people are just you know, dinguses, but other people, really we've seen
some of the fandom change where fandomequates ownership and like that ain't true.
No, no, not at all. Yeah, fandom doesn't equate ownership.

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But Star Wars fans you know,really held it. And but you know,
I do have a you know,the the cute merch thing genius.
I love it, but I hatethe Ewoks. I was about to say
it was what's your opinion on theeu Woks and jar j r Binks.
Jar jar Binks only exists because ofthe Ewoks, and so does grogu and

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and and and BB eight to someextent, but because of our two.
But obviously BB it's great. Iactually like that. That's a great and
I love something like R two thatyou can understand it without speaking the language.
And I think there's some great youknow stuff, And I love the

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it's like BBS great character. Ewok'sNo. Is it just the fact that
they're just small Wookies? Is thatjust they needed to go to the other
extreme, like we were talking aboutthe one extreme to the other very tall
hairy got very small. Yeah,well, they were supposed to be and
I thought that was supposed to bethe epic battle if I remember it right,
And like the third installment was supposedto be that was the enslaved Wookie

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planet and they were building the newDeath Star and then they had the Wookie
Revolt and that would have been anepic battle. Instead we have like these
stuffed animals, but they are cannibalsgoing up against you know, stormtroopers that

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literally burned Luke Skywalker's aunt and unclein the desert and they can't kill a
muppet. I mean, to befair, they couldn't hit a target with
a fucking laser either, and whichtotally counteracts you know, and these blast
these blast points, they were fartoo accurate. Only Imperial Soldiers was so

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perized. You're like, oh,and then now do you get taken down
by a you know, a sleepshot by you know, Fozzy the Bear,
And I don't know, I'm notgonna hate on That's fine, it's
return of the like again, I'mdoing this. I'm doing what I was
complaining of hating and something. ButI'm a kid at the time. I

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was at the time, and youknow, I thought it was no,
where's this great thing? Anyway?We were talking about tearing in front of
we were Yeah, so it seemsthat it happened. But I meant all
these movies were made the same modelmakers and everything. Uh, you know,
these are all kind of especially youknow in the movie industry. That's
how movies were made. And youknow, the gust Star Wars a model

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that all the hips were a model, the bases and stuff on sets and
and all miniaturized, and the trenchthat they shoot done. It's all the
same thing of building these buildings fora twering inferno and all these scale things
where you're actually putting fire and puttingcameras and small windows. That's fascinating and
that's how movies used to be made. And to be fair, the Inferno

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set, you would not be ableto tell from seeing to scene what was
a model and what was you know, like real you know, yeah,
and most of the model work.It was all the exteriors, you know,
things like that, and they useddifferent buildings for big interiors and some
exteriors and like if you've ever beento San Francisco and like, I think

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it's the is it a Western Ithink it's the Western Bonadventure or it used
to be a Western one down likeon the wharf, like the interior,
you know, exposed elevators, Ohyeah, yeah, yeah, and that
was all that and yeah, thoseare those that's all really cool. I
you know, you piece and thingstogether to make it look like one location.

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And it was just a massive,massive movie to make at the time,
and you know, everybody's like,oh, it's so intense, and
you watch it now, it's youcan kind of see some cheese, right,
a little bit of seventies disaster movies. But you know, I grew
up being like, oh my god, this is like blowing my mind.
I mean to be honest, Andyou look at it now you're like,

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oh, that's a little cheesy alittle bit, but it's set the president.
Maybe it's just because it's dated alittle bit, maybe, but it's
set the precedent though for these typesof movies, like these big budget you
know, like disaster movies, Iguess you call them really yeah, well
that's well, you know, IrwinAllen was sort of the godfather of the
you know, disaster movies and thelike you know, Poseidon Adventure, which

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a lot of people love Poseidon Adventure, you know, more than Two confront
It's on a ship. That wascool because they you know, built it.
They built a set upside down.Yeah, you know, that's just
that's but again, that's just coolmovie made. You know, when actors
have to crawl around like opposite,you know, it's great trapped on the
ship. And you know what disastermovies did, is it kind of I

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think disaster movies except for like youknow, Airport seventy seven or whatever and
air movies with dashers like airplanes,no one really likes because we fly all
the time, right, But it'salso sort of a little cathartic release that
you like. Sort of what sortof like a horror genre does for a
lot of people, is it's sortof that these are our biggest fears,

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but we get to enjoy them,right. We want to experience them,
but enjoy them. We don't wantto experience them. Yeah, yeah,
you want to get that shape,but you don't want to. Yeah,
right. And so it's you know, it's a it's a it's a it's
a tough thing. But then youcan totally understand why people that have actually
had traumas or bad experiences, youknow, be it in a disaster like

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a flood or you know, combator anything like that. I don't That's
why I you know, I grewup loving you know, war movies and
combat move World War two movies especially, and then Vietnam was very very fresh.
You know, it's you know,technically still happening when I was technologly
born, but you know, grewup my dad and you watch all these
famous World War two and you know, Korean War movies and Cold War movies,

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and you know it's fascinating like oh, raw raw, you know.
Then then you meet people that've beenthere like, yeah, it's not really
cool. Yeah we didn't have thatgood of it at all. But I
think that's what And I think peoplelive vicariously through war movies. They think
that they like I would have donethe same thing. I would have charged
that machine gun. Ast was likeno you win the no no, no

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you no, you wouldn't have.And and disaster movies, I think,
kind of holds sort of that samething of where people are we're absolutely terrified
of experience and something like that,but we're absolutely enthralled and attracted to it
weirdly, And but I think it'sjust a basic human psychology. And you

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know, we we do that ineveryday life, like or in our relationships,
like we're you know, deathly afraidof certain types of people, yet
we're just like really attracted to themor something. But I think disaster movies
kind of fit that bill a littlebit. And then ironically it was sort
of like a little you know,peak thing, but like we've still like
we still make them. Yeah,it's very we still make them, you

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know when you look at it,like most of the Marvel movies are disaster
movie, like most of the Avengersmove they're all disasters. Are as are
done. Yes, it absolutely getsdestroyed and uh and then of course you
know Thanos kills half of everything.It's like, wait, definitely a disaster
moving out and I think about it. Yeah, it's like, no,
the the Avengers safe, Like didthey did they? Really? Like that's

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why I kind of send of everybody'sgone. Like what was that one show
that they made too where they thepeople cleaned up after the fucking all these
things like after the Avengers and stuffthey made show Marvel. Uh it wasn't
Agents of Shield. There was anotherone disaster or something like that. I
don't know whatever it was that,but they showed what happened after all this
shit happened. I don't have DisneyPluss, so I don't. Oh yeah,

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no it was. I had DisneyPlus for a little bit, but
now I don't. I think Igot Disney Plus just to watch the Mandalorian
season one and I was like,I think that's I think that's what we
got it and we decided to Iguess, yeah, I'm trying to get
rid of all. I think Ihave won and I think I'm getting rid

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of it. I don't I don'twatch dude, I you know what I
I kind of just watched my wrestlingand stuff. Uh. And that's and
I think that happens because we youknow, we go we kind of you
know, kind of modulate through ourour our years, but we I always
go back people like have you seenthis one? Like no, I'm like,

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did you see something? Like no, not yet, It's on my
list kind of kind I'll never watchit, you know, whatever it is.
And I know people that consume amassive amount of content and it's all
new. And then I realized,like I tried to be cool and be
different than like, you know,I really don't watch that much stuff.
And I realized, like, actuallyI probably consume more content than you,

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but it's all reruns of TV shows, right, And because I realized I
do, I'm a I'm a TVmaybe a TV junkie. I may have
a problem. I may have it. I may and I may should be
in a group, but I do. I just I think I've always liked

(28:38):
T. I love movies. Moviesare great, but I like TV.
I've just always really liked TV.I mean, I was a latch key
kid. So TV was my babysitter, you know what I mean. So
uh, And I think that's probablywhat it is. It may be a
gen next thing. Sorry Millennials andzy we didn't. We had a a

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small outlete in our living rooms andthat's that's what we watched and Saturday mornings.
But then you also had a diversityof content, especially on a Saturday.
Yeah, you know, you wokeup, you had some cartoons,
maybe a cartoon, and they hadKung Fu theater, and you had old
black and white movies, and thenyou had and then you had sports and
then uh, and then you hadlike Saturday Night the movies on ABC,

(29:22):
some movie that came out the yearbefore exactly and edited and smoshed and dubbed
and yeah. Uh, but likeyou did go to the theater see that.
But I justly went to the movietheater a lot as a kid.
A lot. Yeah, I went. I went a lot too, I
can't say. And because that wasbut here, I think, you know,
everybody's talking about the death of themovie theater because of streaming, and
I was like, I don't thinkit's because of streaming. No, what

(29:45):
it is is because people don't leaveyour fucking house too. It's that and
and and the fact that you know, if you want to go out and
have a full night, you sayyou got a family of four, it's
gonna it's gonna cost a hundred dollarsto go to movies. That's what popcorn
and whatever, because you can't getthe small popcorns anymore, and the small
popcorns are like ten fifteen bucks.I mean, I hardly ever. I

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mean it got to a point whereI was like, I'm not buying anything
in a movie anyway. But youknow, I had red vines and sodas
as a kid, which I probablyprobably took ten years off my life at
the end, but at least,I mean I haven't dried soda in fifteen
years or something. It was great. But I mean, we score the
movie. We'd be in sixth gradeand get dropped off at the movie theater.
It's very true. In the mall, just god you're there. Yeah,

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Or ride your bike to the mall, or ride your bike to the
theater and lock it up out fronta bike crack. I don't remember being
a bike rack or a tree.Yeah, I don't remember ever. My
parents being around for most of myearly time, and I mean, you
know, mine was a little different, but I had I had sort of
a you know, a normal childhoodalso, which I was on purpose,
and I appreciate it. But yeah, I mean, I mean, I

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remember it used to be every Friday. Yep, I was in sixth grade.
I go to the movies with ButcherClark and Jason Lavitt and they were,
you know, friends of mine,and we just someone would be at
one of their houses and then somewhoever we were at, their parents would
drop us off at either the northRidge Cineplex, which I think had four
screens, and or the Partheno hadfour screens, and there's just little old

(31:21):
regular you know, built in theseventies, you know, peaked in the
eighties movie theaters, and we wouldgo and pick what we're seeing because you
had a look in the newspaper oryou know, and it was five bucks.
Yeah, it was five dollars.And we'd go eat before like this
deli next door or something, andit's bonkers. But now, like you
said, you can't even go,Like, but what sixth grader or seventh

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grader's getting dropped off anywhere by theirparents. They didn't even let him go
in the backyard without standing over themand watching them and the cell phone with
the camera on them the whole time, right, I mean it's like,
I'm, I'm It's like, allright, Jimmy, make sure you put
your floaty on. It was like, Mom, I'm not in the pool,
I'm shooting hoops in the front yard. Let's put your floaties on.
Anyway. Do you have your helmetand gloves? Helmet? Look, look,

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helmets are a good idea, helmets, hellos, but we we first
of all, we didn't have helmets, and second, well, we wouldn't
have warned them if we had them. I mean, yeah, I mean
it's like back in the day,like you were a dirt bike manufacturer,
that was the tesla of the ButI just you know, people that don't

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go outside. Kids don't go outside, Adults don't go outside. And and
I think that's more than people don'twant to leave their house. And that's
been that way for ten years ormore. And pandemic just solidified that.
Yeah, and maybe even more ofthose people. And that's unfortunate. And
you know that's what we have theeffect of, you know, seeing a

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movie at home is now is it'sdifferent. It's the same content, but
it's a different experience. It's notthe same sitting home when the couches that
is sitting in the theater, right, honestly, right, And but you
know, I think sitting at home, like that's you know interesting. The
movies at home were a new thingtechnically started in the seventies, but not

(33:16):
just you know, Sunday Night,ABC Movie the week. But yeah,
I mean they used to make TV. They used to make movies just for
TV right right right the now ourtelevision shows are cinematic, which is great.
I still like television, but theyyou know, that's what HBO started
off to be. And the historyof HBO and the business model of what

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they did, it's fascinating if youget into that and read it, it's
genius. And then it made thisimpact. But what they thought they were
going to do, like their maingoal starting in the early they come out
in the seventies, really, butthen in the I think it was something
in the early eighties that're like,we are actually going to change this dynamic
of like the disparate, like thefamilies are going to come back in the

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living room and watch movies together,and we're gonna do that it's gonna be
HBO that you know. The theAmerican Family and what they realized. It's
like once you've got h if youwere a house in a town that had
HBO, you could watch it ondifferent screens, like the kid went and

(34:22):
watched something, the mom went andwatch something. They were all in separate
rooms or and then like you said, you know with Last Key Kids,
they realized they had this phenomenon thatcertain titles were being watched at like three
PM. And they're like, who'swatching these movies at three pm? Like,
oh my god, it's all thesekids. And it became this giant

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thing and they were like, ohnow we got a flip bar. But
yeah, now we're gonna put thisprogramming in the middle of the day.
And it was it was really interestingto you know how you track that that
was the story. But yeah,it's but you know, and then you
know, kind of circle around.We have a theme of tearing them for
now we do. I never sawthat movie. I never saw that movie
in the theater. No, I'vestill never seen that movie in the theater.

(35:07):
I've seen it a hundred times.Yeah, I've watched it with my
dad many time actually, So yeah, you know, I mean back in
the day. You know, obviously, you know we're in dresses. We're
not just waxing nostalgic on on onseventies and eighties. But you know,
there was a time used to goto the video store and not only rent
the videos, but it used tobe able to rent the VCR yes,

(35:30):
yes, yes, and then youknow, hook it up to your TV
and it was like this marvel ofelectric engineering like it was. It was
it was three plugs. You rememberwhen the Beta Max was supposed to be
the big thing. Well, BetaBeta was better. I thought it was.
I thought what technically it was theproblem with Beta Max as all mass
produced consumer products. Beta was better, but more expensive. Yes, and

(35:53):
that's why Beta died and VHS tookover and then it because it was almost
like disposable, right, it wassuper cheap. It's yeah, you know
I watched Towering Infernol. You know, we used to rent that. We
actually used to rent the movie alongwith a VCR player, and we watched
it on Beta once. You andwe'd watch it like once a year,

(36:15):
and then it finally came out likeon VHS you could own your you could
own your own copy but you knowthat was expensive back then because you couldn't
buy tape. No, no,I remember watching it on video disc if
you remember what those were. Ohyeah, people, that was another technology
that was much better. Yeah,yeahs very expensive because they were already addicted

(36:37):
to VHF. Yep, that's it, and it was everywhere are the collections
and everything in the VHS. Sothey got I don't know if I want
the same movies. Yeah, nowyou can get more video discs on a
shelf because then, yeah, it'slike stacking at that point. The HS
boxes take up a lot of room. But you know, that was an
interesting time. But you know,you know, of the movie experience,

(36:58):
like I think I would have,because I don't think I went to the
premiere. The premiere I think wasat might have been a cineramadome. I
could be wrong. I can askmy sister. But I didn't see town
Inferno in the movie here, whichwould have been fantastic, right with the
sound and the music and the youknow, the the audio mix of the
explosions and the fire and the waterand the dialogue, things like that been

(37:22):
pretty that would have been pretty rad. Yeah, we need to get that
in the theater. We got toget that in there. Well, we
gotta be a non you know,non first run. You know, I'm
trying, like it's already July.I'm kind of already behind that's thinking,
make it happen. But we'll figurethis out, man. But anyway,
so to let this go because I'mgetting the old zoom countdown here and I

(37:43):
don't want to end off cut inthe middle of a conversation. That's right,
So thank you man. Uh,we got to do this again.
I know you're busy. Yeah,no, So, yeah, we finally
connected, and I've just got acouple of things. A lot of stuff's
changing over here, like we weredealing, you know, dealing with possibly
you know, moving with mom ordoing the stuff for the right right I
think, and people are traveling andthen I'm getting ready to go on the

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road for about three months straight andright, so it's it's it's a good
time to knock some of this out. But yeah, we'll connect and uh,
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