June 30, 2020 • 30 mins
Dr. Shaun Woodly is a graduate of Hampton University, Dr. Shaun Woodly obtained his Bachelor's degree in 2004, Master's degree in 2005, followed by his Ph.D. is 2014. Dr. Woodly has dedicated his professional career to education. He is a decorated K-12 teacher, University professor, and author whose deep passion and research have allowed him great success as an educator and entrepreneur. He has dedicated his professional career to education. He is on the show to tell how educational format which specializes in serving schools & organizations that serve urban and culturally diverse communities, Teach Hustle Inspire offers driven and passionate educators a transformational experience in a way that is fun, engaging, and life-changing! Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Dr. Shaun Woodly.
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gra graduate of Hampton University. He obtained his bachelor's degree
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followed by his PhD. He's a doctor, y'all. He has
dedicated his professional career to education, specializing in serving schools
and organizations that serve urban and culturally diverse communities. Teach, hustle,
inspire offers driven and passionate educators a transformatal a transformational
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Please work for the money made conversation for the very
first time, Dr Sean Woodley, thank you so so much
for having me. I'm excited to be here. I'm I
tell you that everything right though, you know, you know,
I gotta make sure I brought you, brought you the forefront,
right doctor. That's all I'm saying. Man, you are very
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nicely now, appreciate that. Thank you, sir. What what where
are yet right now in this in this in this
country of America? Where yet right now? Sir? I'm not
too far from you here in Atlanta? Okay? Great? Great? Um.
You know education, I know I come from Houston, Texas,
born in fifth ward. Uh my degrees in the mathematics
and my minor and sociology, so I know the important
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of continued education. I always tell people who always tell
young people just go to college and just just see
what college has to offer to you. How it changed
my life. Education changed my life. I would not be
talking to you because when I came out of high school, Sean,
I wanted to be a forklift driver and got a
job for forklift driver. That was my dream because that
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was those were my mentors. My mentors were guys who
don't load the trucks. From our fifteen sixty years old
I saw it. I went, wow, this is cool, and
I stayed in my mind. Despite having my best friend
she graduated. She with the rights and graduated. My other
best friends she went to Purdue and graduate. So it
wasn't like I was. I was surrounded by a bunch
of dummies. My whole little core was smart and I
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was smart too. But I wanted to take the easy
way out, a comfortable way out. I felt, you know,
get to that get to that finish line real quick.
But but what But that wasn't the right finish line
for me. So when we talking about education, that's your passion,
I just wanted to tee it up for the type
of conversation I'm gonna have with you, and we're gonna
go into a lot of things and these UH in
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this call we have today. But I want to let
you know the guy you're talking to was the guy
who who was was was not there. I was not that,
I was not motivated to pursue a four year opportunity
in academics and and and it changed my life. So
talk to us about UH education and from your standpoint,
I firmly believe that education and is just really it's
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a key that can unlock so many doors in so
many different directions. One of the limiting things that I'm
working very very hard for, particularly in urban and culturally
diverse schools, as you mentioned, is exposure. We need to
be sure that we the bright young scholars in these
four walls, in the four walls of these classrooms across
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this country are being exposed so that they have something
to shoot for, and education can do that. What are
we exposing them to, what are we allowing them to see?
And more importantly, what are we allowing them to see
and how they think into that as it can be
a contributing member to society. What are we showing them,
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what are we putting them and how does it connect
to their everyday lives. Whether we understand the value and
importance of that or not, it is absolutely critical. We
need to make sure that we are showing these students
what is possible. And that's why I work so hard
so that they can see something to shoot for. Let
that service the engine that drives them, whether it is
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that four year degree, whether it is that a two
year degree, whether it is a trade, something beyond just
going to do the quote, Well, they're minimal and making
sex absolutely because I always tell people that, you know,
you can't reapa or degree. Okay, my degree in that wall.
Nobody's gonna come back and gay, Hey man, you know
some I'm gonna take that back. They can't do that.
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I earned that. You know you can. You can't call
me stupid, you can't call me a dumby. It's right there. Okay,
what story are you telling it? That I've been recognized
as a person who knows how to apply himself. I'm
goal oriented, okay, and I know how to finish what
I start. That's what the degree means to me. And
when I talk about listen to your passion is a
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passion that I didn't have because I didn't understand and
so and we know that the stop gap or the
the or the jump off point in this game of
competition that we call in this country we call America
is education because it's not equal. Education not equal, and
so which leads to a different story. And I think
that private secret, private sector should come in and stop
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trying that we should stop trying to get the government
to fix the situation. And I believe that the sexual
chector come in because they're the ones who seek our
money in movies, seek our money, and android phones they
seek our money, and technology, they seek our money, and
grocery stores. They seek our money in so many different ways,
but they don't return that money to us when it
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comes to lifestyle, when it comes to education, making a
difference in our community because they've they've they've, they've, they've
they've they've, they've developed a nice system, they keep the money.
They don't help out anybody but themselves, okay, And then
they said the government is supposed to do that. So
so that's one of the things that we know when
I look at this change in our community is civil unrest,
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the pandemic. You know, I'm sitting down trying to create
an agenda, a plan of action, and the plan of
action is the old way ain't gonna work for the
new way. So we have to hit a new plan
in place for the new way to even have a
shot at working. And it has to include the private sector.
And that's that's a that's a statement from me. And
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when I talked to me, to worldly people like you,
educated people like you, who know what I'm talking about
when I say education is not equal because it's tied
to it's tied to property tax. You know, it's tied
to the lot of program in each state, which doesn't
really do anything for education, like they say, because most
of the program going, most of the money goes to
the company that sets up a lot of and so
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and so these things drive me. You know, I've been fortunate. Man.
You can google my name and there's a lot of
things come up about me, So you have you have
an image of who I am or idea who I am?
Who is Dr Seaun Woodley? Let me tell you something,
Dr Sean Woodley is. I'm a husband, I am a father,
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I am a believer, and I am an educator. I
do a lot of things under that education umbrella, but
it all boils that back down to being an educator.
I get to leverage my creativity in what I do,
and that has that fuels my passion for entrepreneurship. I've
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been able to uniquely combine the field of education and
entrepreneurship to not only do what I love, but serve
others while doing it. It's like the it's it's like
a beautiful mix that allows me to be who I
authentically am at this while at the same time giving
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back and contributing to society, making a difference in the
lives of teachers who evidently make a difference in the
lives of their students. That that is who I am,
and that is how I think. That is what I
believe God to give to me is to give to
the world. Right. You know when I when I look
at your HBCU grad I said that your critic is
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Hampton State University. Hey, you don't just tell you this, doctor,
Dr Sean. I get a lot of HBCU Ampton guests
on my show. I think it because of the executive
producer the show. She graduated from Hampton University. I think
that really she graduated and I seem to get a
lot of a lot of I'm not disappointed at the
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end of the guest, I'm just telling you straight out
standing like you come on my show from Happy University.
But I think I think she's using my brand to
promote the brand of Hampton University, which is an outstand
at HBCU school. So tell us about your HBCU experience
and the value of attending a school like an HBCU
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school like Hampton University. Let me tell you something. Hampton
University is my family. I stand by it, and it
was absolutely one of the best decisions I've ever made.
The reason that I ended up at Hampton or I.
I grew up in New York and my father raising
us in the church. She was a musician to Hampton
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University every year during the summer has a ministers and
musicians conference that my father attend all the time. He's
the one that told me about Hampton University. And this
goes back to what you mentioned earlier about kind of
why how we can promote the idea of education to
the youth. I was never told in high school about HBCUs,
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about what schools like Hampton A and t Spellman Morehouse.
I would never exposed to those things other than what
my family told me. And I'm so glad that my
dad put that battery in my back at a young
age to be aware of what Hampton was doing and
how it could benefit me. Uh. He took me down
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there to take the tour of the campus. We went
as a family, my mom, my brothers, and after that
we you know, I have two uh younger siblings actually
three excuse me, that r HBCU attended and or graduates.
So like, this is something that I feel I was
able to set an example for them because of what
my dad and my mom showed me and my as
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we like to say, my matriculation. That's wonderful, you know,
it was. It was life altering for me, if I
could say, because I mean what I've learned there, who
I met, it was. It was a microcosm of just
really love and education, um that you yearned for that
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you cannot get at another p w Y and you
can't get that. I ask any HBCU grab and they'll
tell you about that family element that you just you
can you can imitate, but you can't duplicate that. I
love it. I love it. I'm talking to my man,
Dr Sean Woodley. He is a half the universe. The
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hbc U two thousand four bachelor's good huh, two thousand
and four bachelor's degree, two thousand five, Masters degree, then
following up with his PhD. We're gonna be back in
more to our about his brand of education, his books,
all those great things, and first of all, he know
now about money making conversation. You know a lot of
people called my show. They call, you know, people tell
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them it's to show the call. But once they get here,
I talked, they here my passion. His brother right here,
he's on my list now. So when I called when
he when he called me to be on this show,
I was absolutely with a Okay, let'll be right back there.
Said Hi, this was Sean McDonald and you're listening to
the money Making Conversation. I've been having a good old
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time with Dr Sean Woodley about his brand education. You
know how he started in the education, what the education
means to him, what it means to me, the passion
behind education. It took me seven years to get my degree. Uh.
I was arrogant. I thought I'd be in and out.
But what I did when I went to college, I
was just trying I'm gona tell you something, Dr Sean.
I was just trying to go to. I was trying
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to find an easy degree. Okay, the first four and
a half yeard, I was looking for the easy degree.
My friends go easy, an easy teaching. He's an easy teach.
I went to and when they had no symbols of
what they had to do with my degree plans, I
was trying to find easy teachers. I found them all
and then I found one easy teaching in physics that
gave me an elf that woked me up. That woked
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me up because they realized that you have to work.
Life is about working hard and being consistent. And when
I look at your brand, when you talk about education,
you have to be consistent and you have to create
a model that people can believe it and can use
to teach other people. Talk about your brain a little bit.
Dr Sean Sure, Sure, I'm I preach and teach, teach, hustle, inspire,
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not just three particular words that I randomly put together
and threw it up as a logo. They have intention
behind each of those. When I talk about teach, it's
about how we unlock our students and our own intellectual treasure.
That's what it means. How can we create trans forman
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of learning experiences for ourselves, for our students in our classroom.
That hustle park, that's that's my favorite part. That hustle
is about how we can't stop that won't stop learning.
Mr McDonald's here and it kind of has that nineties
d D bad boy vibe twins to it just a
little bit. That's that's my personality being there in there
a little bit. But how do we keep how do
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we stay on top of the current research, How do
we stay on top of what we need to know
to continue because see, education don't stop, Education does not stop.
How do we continue to learn to be the best
we can for ourselves and our students? And that inspire
It means to spread love and like what we do
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with educators, that can be a thankless profession. Sometimes with
the inequities in the curriculums that we see, with the
inequities and distribution of funds, we sometimes we feel like
we're all we have. So we have to be sure
that we're spreading that love and life to one another,
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Dot ai. It's really amazing when I when I think
about it, you know, when we still talk about unequal education,
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and we still talk about, you know, denying people an
opportunity to get an equal education, and that's usually tied
to the community that you grow up in and you're
in Atlanta, me in the South, and you know that
what you really was the reason we have hbc US
because it was a time where the southern schools wouldn't
let a black person in the school and then the
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northern school headquarters or limitations. So it was out of
necessity that we had to create these hbc used which
are now the backbone of education, especially for African American
success stores in this country today. That's one of the
reasons why I take the time to be able to
articulate the value and the need. Now when you talk
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about education and you you you broke down the whole
teach hustle inspired whether all about? But how did they
come about? You know what what the what? What? What? What?
What launched it? Though? Dr Sean? What launched did? That
came from a need for me to try and find
a unique and creative way to pour into the lives
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of educators and give back. I am, I'm a speaker
and consultant and you know all in the under the
umbrella of educating that is that is what I do.
I wanted to find something that could connect us in
the education world, something especially those of us that serve
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in urban and culturally diverse communities because there are specific
challenges that we are simply at a fundamental level not
prepared to deal with. And again it's not because something
is wrong, it's just that we are not prepared. So
I created this with the mind with the mindset of
how can I help prepare dedicated and talented educators to
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face the challenges that can arise in urban and culturally
diverse communities so that we can now move this agenda
forward and balance these scales a little bit. But it
really just came from my desire to what to serve,
to want to unite and start a movement, and I
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just it's it's not something that I just thought of
one particular day to teach hustle inspire. Kind of it
seems like it came out of nowhere. But what you're
seeing are the results of years, years of research, years
of practice, and years of trial error, failing, fail again,
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fail forward, fail some more, try it again. That's what
you're seeing now are the results of that. And this
is just the beginning. That's that's powerful words, um and
so those are some of the when you say obstacles,
you know it is one of these over to me.
Um is are the obstacles, Uh, Disbelievers are obstacles yourself
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sometimes doubting whether this is this will be received? What
exactly are the obstacles that you're talking about. Some of
the obstacles UM definitely do come in the form of
self sabotage and questioning whether or not you are the
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one that should be doing this. As far as t
hustle inspired inspire is concerned that that can the obstacles
can start from within and if I am not careful,
if I am not emotionally aware enough to examine that
it is nothing more than just self sabotage and that
I can overcome, that it can be something that consumes me.
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But my passion and desire and understanding to know that
I'm called to do this outweighs those obstacles and makes
them speed bumps at the post hurdles. So now out
what I can do is with the understanding that and
not to get church on you. But God doesn't call
to qualify, He qualifies the call. I understand that this
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is a mission for me and now I'm growing and
that as long as I stay true to who I
am and what the Good Lord has for me. I
can't tell us, Oh no, you won't, you won't. That's
why I set up this show. My friend is passionate driven,
and the information that I give through my faith and
through my passion, I educate people who listen and follow
my brand. So we're on the same page. Now, tell
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us about your artcoming um conference for urban educators. Sure. Sure.
I wanted to create a unique experience called the Super
Teachers Summit. And what happens is this is going to
be a unique online virtual event. We we you know,
we have to be cautious with everything happening coronavirus wise,
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about large gatherings and so forth, but that's still doesn't
put a stop on the work that needs to be done,
because come August September, there are still children that are
going to need to be educated. So I wanted to
come up with a unique way to garner educators attention
to help solve some of the problems that they will
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inevitably face. And I created this unique event to be
an online, interactive virtual experience more than just someone sitting
in front of a screen and then now alright, everything
is going in one ear and out of the other.
I wanted to make this a little bit more than
simply just your average teacher conference, if you will, And
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so I I gave it a theme. I embedded some
of the research and some phenomenal speakers that I know
of that are really doing the work in this field.
And I'm putting together what I know will be a
Dynamites event in August. So is there any set date
for aug yet or just all the still planning. It's
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still planning. It's going to be the first weekend in
August that you want to make sure. I want to
be a part of that. Whatever I can do to
promote it through my social or my newsletter goes a
weekly every Friday at nine am. I'll make you're part
of that conversation. Before I was a couple of things.
But I want to talk to about before we leaves.
I wanted I did not read your best selling book
MC means Move the class, How the spark engagement and
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motivation and urban and culturally diverse classroom? Tell us about that?
And then I also want to close and response from
you about what's going on in America right now. Okay, absolutely,
the book for me came from my experiences teaching. I
spent ten years UM teaching in urban schools, and while
doing that, because I was I knew that there were
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things that I wanted to do. I had a side
hustle at the DJ. So literally Ms McDonald, I would
pull up to the schoolyard and teach during the day
and being the club at night with my turn tables
in the literal, and it was it was so fund yeah.
I mean, you talk about parties, clubs, weddings, bar mits,
was barbecues, It doesn't matter if they had if they
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were paying and needed music services. I was in there.
And so what I began to notice is that I
was growing as a DJ and growing as an educator simultaneously,
and some coincidental not my coincidental, some emerging commonalities started
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to really make way about both professions, about being a teacher,
about being in DJ, and so really that that mc see.
You know, back in the day when I grew, I
grew up on Long Island and Eric being rock Cam
had from Eric B as president the song um excuse
me um, Eric B as president, not second verse where
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our cam talks about Eric B on the cut scratching
the medicine, no mistakes allowed. Because to me, mc means
moved the problem. And that line always stuck to me.
It really because what stands out about that is what
rock Him was telling us is that his his role
as an m C it's it's not just a position,
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it's a responsibility. Mr McDonald, that's that's my responsibility to
move this crowd. So I took that and and with
that same mindset, it's my responsibility to move this class
and as a DJ, as a as a teacher. You know,
in both roles, I'm a motivator. I am the reason
that you're going to in this club dance or I'm
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the reason in this classroom you're going to learn. In
both roles, I curate specific content so that when in
the timing of winning his place, to create an absolute
experience for either the people in the club or the
students in my classroom, making real time decisions, making sure
that I am on top of everything, and making sure
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that I can change when needed. Making those ah sumans
to really read the crowd and feed off of that energy.
It becomes sick. Wow, that's hot. You know that's hot
because I hear the passion, I hear the planning out here.
It's a it's authentic. That's what I hear the most, doctor,
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and that's why, that's why, that's why it works, because
it's not something you made up. It's tied to a journey.
You know. The journey in the world that we're living
in right now is um I did an interview this
morning and I was telling them that one out of
one thousand black men and boys will be killed by
a police officer. That's one out of one thousand. That's
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two point five times higher than white men and white boys.
And when people ask us, why, why the unrest, why
the protests, what is your response? Dr Shaun Woodley, Hello,
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do you cannot tell the oppressed? Essentially, It's been quoted
and said so many times, but you can't tell the
oppressed how to respond to their oppression. You can't do that.
What you're seeing are the results of years of years
and years, hundreds of years of outcries, hundreds of years
of just simply making a plea not to be treated better,
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Mr McDonald, for being treated the same. That's all we want,
that's that's at the end of the day. We just
wanted to be treated the same. And so now what
has resulted from that is the the emotional outburst of
the people that has been held down far too long. Absolutely,
I always tell people I just want my child to
have a better life than our hands. And I think
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that anybody who's not my color wants the same thing.
So just give me my shot. But when I'm stopped
by the pot, least, don't allow a lobby not to
be afraid. Now, allow me to not believe that this
might be a stop I'm drive away from. That's all
I'm asking. And when I say one out of one thousand,
that's an incredible number. Two publicly say this documented story
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came out of the Los Angeles time I read it
and then have and I've been horrified ever since. Dr Sean.
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Please work for the money made conversation for the very
first time, Dr Sean Woodley, thank you so so much
for having me. I'm excited to be here. I'm I
tell you that everything right though, you know, you know,
I gotta make sure I brought you, brought you the forefront,
right doctor. That's all I'm saying. Man, you are very
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nicely now, appreciate that. Thank you, sir. What what where
are yet right now in this in this in this
country of America? Where yet right now? Sir? I'm not
too far from you here in Atlanta? Okay? Great? Great? Um.
You know education, I know I come from Houston, Texas,
born in fifth ward. Uh my degrees in the mathematics
and my minor and sociology, so I know the important
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of continued education. I always tell people who always tell
young people just go to college and just just see
what college has to offer to you. How it changed
my life. Education changed my life. I would not be
talking to you because when I came out of high school, Sean,
I wanted to be a forklift driver and got a
job for forklift driver. That was my dream because that
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was those were my mentors. My mentors were guys who
don't load the trucks. From our fifteen sixty years old
I saw it. I went, wow, this is cool, and
I stayed in my mind. Despite having my best friend
she graduated. She with the rights and graduated. My other
best friends she went to Purdue and graduate. So it
wasn't like I was. I was surrounded by a bunch
of dummies. My whole little core was smart and I
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was smart too. But I wanted to take the easy
way out, a comfortable way out. I felt, you know,
get to that get to that finish line real quick.
But but what But that wasn't the right finish line
for me. So when we talking about education, that's your passion,
I just wanted to tee it up for the type
of conversation I'm gonna have with you, and we're gonna
go into a lot of things and these UH in
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this call we have today. But I want to let
you know the guy you're talking to was the guy
who who was was was not there. I was not that,
I was not motivated to pursue a four year opportunity
in academics and and and it changed my life. So
talk to us about UH education and from your standpoint,
I firmly believe that education and is just really it's
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a key that can unlock so many doors in so
many different directions. One of the limiting things that I'm
working very very hard for, particularly in urban and culturally
diverse schools, as you mentioned, is exposure. We need to
be sure that we the bright young scholars in these
four walls, in the four walls of these classrooms across
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this country are being exposed so that they have something
to shoot for, and education can do that. What are
we exposing them to, what are we allowing them to see?
And more importantly, what are we allowing them to see
and how they think into that as it can be
a contributing member to society. What are we showing them,
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what are we putting them and how does it connect
to their everyday lives. Whether we understand the value and
importance of that or not, it is absolutely critical. We
need to make sure that we are showing these students
what is possible. And that's why I work so hard
so that they can see something to shoot for. Let
that service the engine that drives them, whether it is
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that four year degree, whether it is that a two
year degree, whether it is a trade, something beyond just
going to do the quote, Well, they're minimal and making
sex absolutely because I always tell people that, you know,
you can't reapa or degree. Okay, my degree in that wall.
Nobody's gonna come back and gay, Hey man, you know
some I'm gonna take that back. They can't do that.
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I earned that. You know you can. You can't call
me stupid, you can't call me a dumby. It's right there. Okay,
what story are you telling it? That I've been recognized
as a person who knows how to apply himself. I'm
goal oriented, okay, and I know how to finish what
I start. That's what the degree means to me. And
when I talk about listen to your passion is a
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passion that I didn't have because I didn't understand and
so and we know that the stop gap or the
the or the jump off point in this game of
competition that we call in this country we call America
is education because it's not equal. Education not equal, and
so which leads to a different story. And I think
that private secret, private sector should come in and stop
(06:56):
trying that we should stop trying to get the government
to fix the situation. And I believe that the sexual
chector come in because they're the ones who seek our
money in movies, seek our money, and android phones they
seek our money, and technology, they seek our money, and
grocery stores. They seek our money in so many different ways,
but they don't return that money to us when it
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comes to lifestyle, when it comes to education, making a
difference in our community because they've they've they've, they've, they've
they've they've, they've developed a nice system, they keep the money.
They don't help out anybody but themselves, okay, And then
they said the government is supposed to do that. So
so that's one of the things that we know when
I look at this change in our community is civil unrest,
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the pandemic. You know, I'm sitting down trying to create
an agenda, a plan of action, and the plan of
action is the old way ain't gonna work for the
new way. So we have to hit a new plan
in place for the new way to even have a
shot at working. And it has to include the private sector.
And that's that's a that's a statement from me. And
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when I talked to me, to worldly people like you,
educated people like you, who know what I'm talking about
when I say education is not equal because it's tied
to it's tied to property tax. You know, it's tied
to the lot of program in each state, which doesn't
really do anything for education, like they say, because most
of the program going, most of the money goes to
the company that sets up a lot of and so
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and so these things drive me. You know, I've been fortunate. Man.
You can google my name and there's a lot of
things come up about me, So you have you have
an image of who I am or idea who I am?
Who is Dr Seaun Woodley? Let me tell you something,
Dr Sean Woodley is. I'm a husband, I am a father,
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I am a believer, and I am an educator. I
do a lot of things under that education umbrella, but
it all boils that back down to being an educator.
I get to leverage my creativity in what I do,
and that has that fuels my passion for entrepreneurship. I've
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been able to uniquely combine the field of education and
entrepreneurship to not only do what I love, but serve
others while doing it. It's like the it's it's like
a beautiful mix that allows me to be who I
authentically am at this while at the same time giving
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back and contributing to society, making a difference in the
lives of teachers who evidently make a difference in the
lives of their students. That that is who I am,
and that is how I think. That is what I
believe God to give to me is to give to
the world. Right. You know when I when I look
at your HBCU grad I said that your critic is
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Hampton State University. Hey, you don't just tell you this, doctor,
Dr Sean. I get a lot of HBCU Ampton guests
on my show. I think it because of the executive
producer the show. She graduated from Hampton University. I think
that really she graduated and I seem to get a
lot of a lot of I'm not disappointed at the
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end of the guest, I'm just telling you straight out
standing like you come on my show from Happy University.
But I think I think she's using my brand to
promote the brand of Hampton University, which is an outstand
at HBCU school. So tell us about your HBCU experience
and the value of attending a school like an HBCU
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school like Hampton University. Let me tell you something. Hampton
University is my family. I stand by it, and it
was absolutely one of the best decisions I've ever made.
The reason that I ended up at Hampton or I.
I grew up in New York and my father raising
us in the church. She was a musician to Hampton
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University every year during the summer has a ministers and
musicians conference that my father attend all the time. He's
the one that told me about Hampton University. And this
goes back to what you mentioned earlier about kind of
why how we can promote the idea of education to
the youth. I was never told in high school about HBCUs,
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about what schools like Hampton A and t Spellman Morehouse.
I would never exposed to those things other than what
my family told me. And I'm so glad that my
dad put that battery in my back at a young
age to be aware of what Hampton was doing and
how it could benefit me. Uh. He took me down
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there to take the tour of the campus. We went
as a family, my mom, my brothers, and after that
we you know, I have two uh younger siblings actually
three excuse me, that r HBCU attended and or graduates.
So like, this is something that I feel I was
able to set an example for them because of what
my dad and my mom showed me and my as
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we like to say, my matriculation. That's wonderful, you know,
it was. It was life altering for me, if I
could say, because I mean what I've learned there, who
I met, it was. It was a microcosm of just
really love and education, um that you yearned for that
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you cannot get at another p w Y and you
can't get that. I ask any HBCU grab and they'll
tell you about that family element that you just you
can you can imitate, but you can't duplicate that. I
love it. I love it. I'm talking to my man,
Dr Sean Woodley. He is a half the universe. The
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hbc U two thousand four bachelor's good huh, two thousand
and four bachelor's degree, two thousand five, Masters degree, then
following up with his PhD. We're gonna be back in
more to our about his brand of education, his books,
all those great things, and first of all, he know
now about money making conversation. You know a lot of
people called my show. They call, you know, people tell
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them it's to show the call. But once they get here,
I talked, they here my passion. His brother right here,
he's on my list now. So when I called when
he when he called me to be on this show,
I was absolutely with a Okay, let'll be right back there.
Said Hi, this was Sean McDonald and you're listening to
the money Making Conversation. I've been having a good old
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time with Dr Sean Woodley about his brand education. You
know how he started in the education, what the education
means to him, what it means to me, the passion
behind education. It took me seven years to get my degree. Uh.
I was arrogant. I thought I'd be in and out.
But what I did when I went to college, I
was just trying I'm gona tell you something, Dr Sean.
I was just trying to go to. I was trying
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to find an easy degree. Okay, the first four and
a half yeard, I was looking for the easy degree.
My friends go easy, an easy teaching. He's an easy teach.
I went to and when they had no symbols of
what they had to do with my degree plans, I
was trying to find easy teachers. I found them all
and then I found one easy teaching in physics that
gave me an elf that woked me up. That woked
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me up because they realized that you have to work.
Life is about working hard and being consistent. And when
I look at your brand, when you talk about education,
you have to be consistent and you have to create
a model that people can believe it and can use
to teach other people. Talk about your brain a little bit.
Dr Sean Sure, Sure, I'm I preach and teach, teach, hustle, inspire,
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and and here's what it means. Teach, hustle, inspire is
not just three particular words that I randomly put together
and threw it up as a logo. They have intention
behind each of those. When I talk about teach, it's
about how we unlock our students and our own intellectual treasure.
That's what it means. How can we create trans forman
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of learning experiences for ourselves, for our students in our classroom.
That hustle park, that's that's my favorite part. That hustle
is about how we can't stop that won't stop learning.
Mr McDonald's here and it kind of has that nineties
d D bad boy vibe twins to it just a
little bit. That's that's my personality being there in there
a little bit. But how do we keep how do
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we stay on top of the current research, How do
we stay on top of what we need to know
to continue because see, education don't stop, Education does not stop.
How do we continue to learn to be the best
we can for ourselves and our students? And that inspire
It means to spread love and like what we do
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with educators, that can be a thankless profession. Sometimes with
the inequities in the curriculums that we see, with the
inequities and distribution of funds, we sometimes we feel like
we're all we have. So we have to be sure
that we're spreading that love and life to one another,
pouring back into ourselves and taking care of our soaps
so that we can take care of our families. You
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Dot ai. It's really amazing when I when I think
about it, you know, when we still talk about unequal education,
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and we still talk about, you know, denying people an
opportunity to get an equal education, and that's usually tied
to the community that you grow up in and you're
in Atlanta, me in the South, and you know that
what you really was the reason we have hbc US
because it was a time where the southern schools wouldn't
let a black person in the school and then the
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northern school headquarters or limitations. So it was out of
necessity that we had to create these hbc used which
are now the backbone of education, especially for African American
success stores in this country today. That's one of the
reasons why I take the time to be able to
articulate the value and the need. Now when you talk
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about education and you you you broke down the whole
teach hustle inspired whether all about? But how did they
come about? You know what what the what? What? What? What?
What launched it? Though? Dr Sean? What launched did? That
came from a need for me to try and find
a unique and creative way to pour into the lives
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of educators and give back. I am, I'm a speaker
and consultant and you know all in the under the
umbrella of educating that is that is what I do.
I wanted to find something that could connect us in
the education world, something especially those of us that serve
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in urban and culturally diverse communities because there are specific
challenges that we are simply at a fundamental level not
prepared to deal with. And again it's not because something
is wrong, it's just that we are not prepared. So
I created this with the mind with the mindset of
how can I help prepare dedicated and talented educators to
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face the challenges that can arise in urban and culturally
diverse communities so that we can now move this agenda
forward and balance these scales a little bit. But it
really just came from my desire to what to serve,
to want to unite and start a movement, and I
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just it's it's not something that I just thought of
one particular day to teach hustle inspire. Kind of it
seems like it came out of nowhere. But what you're
seeing are the results of years, years of research, years
of practice, and years of trial error, failing, fail again,
(20:43):
fail forward, fail some more, try it again. That's what
you're seeing now are the results of that. And this
is just the beginning. That's that's powerful words, um and
so those are some of the when you say obstacles,
you know it is one of these over to me.
Um is are the obstacles, Uh, Disbelievers are obstacles yourself
(21:05):
sometimes doubting whether this is this will be received? What
exactly are the obstacles that you're talking about. Some of
the obstacles UM definitely do come in the form of
self sabotage and questioning whether or not you are the
(21:25):
one that should be doing this. As far as t
hustle inspired inspire is concerned that that can the obstacles
can start from within and if I am not careful,
if I am not emotionally aware enough to examine that
it is nothing more than just self sabotage and that
I can overcome, that it can be something that consumes me.
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But my passion and desire and understanding to know that
I'm called to do this outweighs those obstacles and makes
them speed bumps at the post hurdles. So now out
what I can do is with the understanding that and
not to get church on you. But God doesn't call
to qualify, He qualifies the call. I understand that this
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is a mission for me and now I'm growing and
that as long as I stay true to who I
am and what the Good Lord has for me. I
can't tell us, Oh no, you won't, you won't. That's
why I set up this show. My friend is passionate driven,
and the information that I give through my faith and
through my passion, I educate people who listen and follow
my brand. So we're on the same page. Now, tell
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us about your artcoming um conference for urban educators. Sure. Sure.
I wanted to create a unique experience called the Super
Teachers Summit. And what happens is this is going to
be a unique online virtual event. We we you know,
we have to be cautious with everything happening coronavirus wise,
(22:55):
about large gatherings and so forth, but that's still doesn't
put a stop on the work that needs to be done,
because come August September, there are still children that are
going to need to be educated. So I wanted to
come up with a unique way to garner educators attention
to help solve some of the problems that they will
(23:16):
inevitably face. And I created this unique event to be
an online, interactive virtual experience more than just someone sitting
in front of a screen and then now alright, everything
is going in one ear and out of the other.
I wanted to make this a little bit more than
simply just your average teacher conference, if you will, And
(23:40):
so I I gave it a theme. I embedded some
of the research and some phenomenal speakers that I know
of that are really doing the work in this field.
And I'm putting together what I know will be a
Dynamites event in August. So is there any set date
for aug yet or just all the still planning. It's
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still planning. It's going to be the first weekend in
August that you want to make sure. I want to
be a part of that. Whatever I can do to
promote it through my social or my newsletter goes a
weekly every Friday at nine am. I'll make you're part
of that conversation. Before I was a couple of things.
But I want to talk to about before we leaves.
I wanted I did not read your best selling book
MC means Move the class, How the spark engagement and
(24:22):
motivation and urban and culturally diverse classroom? Tell us about that?
And then I also want to close and response from
you about what's going on in America right now. Okay, absolutely,
the book for me came from my experiences teaching. I
spent ten years UM teaching in urban schools, and while
doing that, because I was I knew that there were
(24:46):
things that I wanted to do. I had a side
hustle at the DJ. So literally Ms McDonald, I would
pull up to the schoolyard and teach during the day
and being the club at night with my turn tables
in the literal, and it was it was so fund yeah.
I mean, you talk about parties, clubs, weddings, bar mits,
was barbecues, It doesn't matter if they had if they
(25:08):
were paying and needed music services. I was in there.
And so what I began to notice is that I
was growing as a DJ and growing as an educator simultaneously,
and some coincidental not my coincidental, some emerging commonalities started
(25:29):
to really make way about both professions, about being a teacher,
about being in DJ, and so really that that mc see.
You know, back in the day when I grew, I
grew up on Long Island and Eric being rock Cam
had from Eric B as president the song um excuse
me um, Eric B as president, not second verse where
(25:51):
our cam talks about Eric B on the cut scratching
the medicine, no mistakes allowed. Because to me, mc means
moved the problem. And that line always stuck to me.
It really because what stands out about that is what
rock Him was telling us is that his his role
as an m C it's it's not just a position,
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it's a responsibility. Mr McDonald, that's that's my responsibility to
move this crowd. So I took that and and with
that same mindset, it's my responsibility to move this class
and as a DJ, as a as a teacher. You know,
in both roles, I'm a motivator. I am the reason
that you're going to in this club dance or I'm
(26:33):
the reason in this classroom you're going to learn. In
both roles, I curate specific content so that when in
the timing of winning his place, to create an absolute
experience for either the people in the club or the
students in my classroom, making real time decisions, making sure
that I am on top of everything, and making sure
(26:55):
that I can change when needed. Making those ah sumans
to really read the crowd and feed off of that energy.
It becomes sick. Wow, that's hot. You know that's hot
because I hear the passion, I hear the planning out here.
It's a it's authentic. That's what I hear the most, doctor,
(27:16):
and that's why, that's why, that's why it works, because
it's not something you made up. It's tied to a journey.
You know. The journey in the world that we're living
in right now is um I did an interview this
morning and I was telling them that one out of
one thousand black men and boys will be killed by
a police officer. That's one out of one thousand. That's
(27:39):
two point five times higher than white men and white boys.
And when people ask us, why, why the unrest, why
the protests, what is your response? Dr Shaun Woodley, Hello,
(28:03):
do you cannot tell the oppressed? Essentially, It's been quoted
and said so many times, but you can't tell the
oppressed how to respond to their oppression. You can't do that.
What you're seeing are the results of years of years
and years, hundreds of years of outcries, hundreds of years
of just simply making a plea not to be treated better,
(28:26):
Mr McDonald, for being treated the same. That's all we want,
that's that's at the end of the day. We just
wanted to be treated the same. And so now what
has resulted from that is the the emotional outburst of
the people that has been held down far too long. Absolutely,
I always tell people I just want my child to
have a better life than our hands. And I think
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that anybody who's not my color wants the same thing.
So just give me my shot. But when I'm stopped
by the pot, least, don't allow a lobby not to
be afraid. Now, allow me to not believe that this
might be a stop I'm drive away from. That's all
I'm asking. And when I say one out of one thousand,
that's an incredible number. Two publicly say this documented story
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came out of the Los Angeles time I read it
and then have and I've been horrified ever since. Dr Sean.
Would I hope you enjoyed coming on my show. It's
a it's a journey. It's a journey about it's your journey.
I wanted to share with my listeners on money making conversations.
And no, you have a friend and uh and when
the when the conference comes out, the Urban Educator's Conference
comes out in August. If you want to come back,
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the doors open, if you want to just send banners,
the doors open. And I would promise you. I promoted
in my news letter which goes out to ninety thousand
people every Friday at nine am, and I put it
on on social media for Money Making Conversations, I would
love that, Gal, Thank you so much. Thank you for
coming to my show. If you want to hear more
episodes of Money Making Conversation, please go to money Making
Conversation dot com. I'm Rashan McDonald. I'm your host. In
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