June 30, 2020 • 27 mins
George Lopez is a comedy legend, I had the good fortune of meeting him several times when I managed Steve Harvey, and he made a surprising visit to the production set when I was producing BET's Comic View. He walked on stage and received a standing ovation. He makes his Netflix original comedy special premiere with "We'll Do It For Half." He is an entrepreneur, with restaurants based on authentic Mexican cuisine from his grandmother's traditional recipes. He had toured with some of my favorite comedians like Eddie Griffin, DL Hughley, and Cedric The Entertainer, and most importantly, he is a trailblazer, when he starred
in his self-produced, ABC sitcom. He is on the show to discuss his stand-up comedy special which examines race and ethnic relations, especially the Mexican American culture. How the Hispanic community reacted when he championed Barack Obama before his first election and how he got into the restaurant business. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations George Lopez.
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next guest is a comedy legend. I could only put
it like that. He is a legend. I had a
good fortune of meeting him several times when I managed
Steve Harvey and he made a surprise visit on stage
when I was producing b Teach Common Views, so I
know him well. He makes his Netflix original comedy special
premiere with We'll Do It for Half. I saw it
twice as brilliantly funny. He's an entrepreneur with restaurants, based
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on authentic Mexican cuisine from his grandmother's traditional recipes. He
has toured with some of my favorite comedians like Adie Griffin,
DL Hughley and Cedric the Entertainer, and mostly importantly, he
is a trailblazer when he's starting his self produced ABC sitcom,
he stand up comedy specials examins race, ethnic relations, and
especially the Mexican American culture. Please welcome to money making Conversations,
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my man, George Lopez, how are you serve? Hey, my man?
You know, uh, I saw the specially send me a
little link so I can see it earlier. Is I
want to make sure I saw it before I interviewed you?
And uh, how do you just George? Okay, first of all,
when somebody calls you a comedy legend, what is that?
How do you feel when somebody says that about you?
You know, I mean, it's it's so if they were
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if there were doctors, you know, there's so many different
doctors and different and different variety of fields, you know,
so someone would say, you know, he's the scientists, he's
the biotex science, he's a heart doctor, he's a brain surgeony.
This guy's a dentist. This guy's a general practitioner O B. G.
Y N you know, oncologist. So I looked at myself
as almost a bit of a multi faceted doctor. You know.
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One of the things that on this sporty one year
journey that I did. You know, I grew up very alone.
I grew up without a male figure. I never knew
my father, I didn't know my mother. My grandparents were
very removed from me. And you know, there was just
something growing up that made me feel like I was
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different than everybody else, not better, just different. And I
couldn't put my finger on it, but it was that
feeling of being different or having a better instinct than
everybody that surrounded me that made me do something that
was probably the most terrifying thing anybody could ever do,
and do it for years without ever seen any improvement.
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So legend in the mind of of of the people,
but just somebody who you know, worked hard to create
a different narrative than the narrative that I saw. I'm
gonna tell you some being a former standard comic, did
deaf comedy jam did all the all the comedy specials myself.
I've been blessed like that. So when I saw your special,
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and I've seen your specials in the in the past
where one of your funny, but all your specials are funny.
One of them that really made me laugh with when
you I think Cedric Entertainer was backstage and when you
ended the show you crawled through your your name to
get off stage. Man, that laughed so hard on now
with Joe Herge, What was running through your mind? That
was funny? Dude, Well, you know we that that one
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we did live at the Kennedy Center. I was there
for Eddie Murphy's march Wain and then as I stood
there and I got a couple of jokes off and
I got a huge response. I thought, you know, if
I'm gonna do my HBO special, they wanted to do it,
and a load of way you couldn't find a theater,
but that being there at any place, I thought, you know,
I like this room. It's a perfect size, it's a
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great place. You know. Politically, where we were with the
wall and then everybody was a shade of having the
American flag upside down because upside down means distress. And
as we had a meeting months before the production, because
I had to start to build the set. We were
under an agreement that the director, Troy Miller, who's an
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incredible director, to the rest of the development crazy stuff
that we told him that we weren't going to put
the flag upside down, but he said, hell, no, man,
We're putting the flag upside down. So it wasn't until
I got there that day to rehearse that we noticed
that the flag was upside down. And then he said, hey, gee,
you know at the end of your show, you should
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crawl under the wall here said man that as I
said my under that, he goes, yeah, just sit and
and I did it. Man, Man, I laughed so I
wouldn't grab my wife had played that back to look
at this food. He he crawled under his name under
the wall, and then backstage said it was laughing bad.
That was just that's what we're talking about. Legendary stuff, man,
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because that's a stand up. You know. I know the
pressure it takes to be able to go on stage
be original. And when I look at you when I
watched this special, man, this is my this is what
I say about stand up. When I look at a special,
I go wow. I would never thought of that joke.
I wouldn't never thought that joke, and that would that's
your special man and in its own Netflix, and it's
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your very first one on them Netflix, and we'll do
it for half and and just tell us about the
whole process of getting it over to Netflix and and
taping it in San Francisco. Well, you know, let me say,
let me say this before you, because you just stand up.
So one thing I think inherited and everyone is some
people everybody has a sense of humor, whether they take
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themselves too serious or they need to lighten up, or
they're dry. One of the things about about comedy and
comedian is is even the odds of even getting a
little bit of light shown on you is so nearly impossible.
But you know, there's so many guys that I saw
growing up, and that I saw in the clubs in
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the eighties and nineties, in the last twenty years that
were so good, that we're so clever, that we're great writers,
and whatever fortune, whatever fate, didn't let anything shine on
those guys. And as as much as the world needs drafter,
there's a whole group of comedians who are incredibly funny
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that no one will ever hear of That's why whatever
you do, do it because you love it. Because you
know there's no guarantee that you're not gonna be one
of those cats that gets any love. But if you
feel good about what you do, then that's already becoming
a success. You know successes and like everybody knows your name,
people see you. Yeah, that that that's great. But the
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one thing is that you never loosen You're never loosening
your grip on something that you can't really get a
grip on. Like I think you work harder when you
get a little love and you start to do theaters
and you start to do arena and you start to
meet the people that you started to to meet on
the way up. I've seen a lot of guys stayed out,
but I always worked the hardest when I had my show,
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when I had my taught show, when I had the specials.
So it's just been something that I've never been able
to relinquish. So going to San Francisco and go into
the war field and knowing the history of it, knowing
that Jimmy Henders played their Janni's Joplin Santana Ravana as
it gas your bed. Everybody that's anybody's been in there,
and you know you can do it anywhere, but when
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you do it in a place that has historical significant
going to be Apollo. Chris Spencer asked me to do
this thing at the Apollo, and going there it may
not mean anything to anybody else. That's not for me
to decide. But what it meant to me to be
on stage with the Apollo, to ryal the road through
to go do Radio City is beyond you know, anybody's
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true imagination or level of appreciation. I'm just I'm just
kind of honored to be able to do the things
that I've always wanted to do. And and and thank
you for explaining that, because I remember I was producing
bats Comic View and you may not even remember this,
and j Anthony Brown was hosting that that run or
Betis Comic View and you came and uh, and we
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were trying to get you to go on stage. Oh no,
it's not my thing. It's not my thing, you know,
as y'all. I'm just here to watch and just wish
everybody good luck. And I remember we got you to
go on stage and you walked on stage, we introduced
you and the whole room of black people stood up
and gave you a standard ovation. And that to me,
you know, because you know, you're always famous with your group,
you know, like you know, like Jeff's felt he famous
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with his crowd, and you know, and you you established
your brand of just being a funny guy. But in
my mind, the mex American culture was your what's your
what's your home run? And when I walked when I
saw you walk out that George, and these black people
stood off because you know, black people just like Hispanics,
you know, they don't they don't give it up or
unless they respect it, okay. And when they walked out
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there and gave you a standard ovation, man, I went,
this dude got it, man, he got something extra going
on in his life. And I just I just That's
why I call you a legend, man, because when you
crossed all these different lanes man with respect, that's beautiful, dude,
that's beautiful. You know. You know I was my grandmother
raised me, and my grandmother was in my act. I
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would say, you know, my grandmother was was racially insensitive,
like like your grandmother's like everybody's grandmother's especially insensitive. So
part of my material is about her relationship with African
American people and then coming to the door not opening
the door her relationship with black people, saying you know what,
like I said, I said, my first girlfriend, there's a
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there's a true story, and it hurts and it's still
funny to this day. Like when I was in the
seventh grade, there was this girl that looked like get
Christie Love. She was in seventh grade. Her name was
Christina Husky, fro, light skin, tall, beautiful, and she liked
me and all my friends gave me a hard time
and I would walk with her the class and I
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you know, I dug her and she was cool. She
lived on the other side of the street from where
I lived, the main street, and one day I was
walking home with her and my grandmother. I guess must
have got off work early and saw me and roll
the window down and hunk the horn and did a
U turn on sa orando mission roll the window down
and says, hey, shat whet your ass home? To call
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me Shaft? When I was walking with this African American girl,
I know how funding you who Shaft was, but she's
like a shot get home, you know, And she flipped out.
So I said, so what what if I like the
black girl so all I know about no? I said, why,
why why is it your concern? She those, because I
don't like them. And if you do, they're gonna see
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me with you, and they're gonna think I like him,
and I don't. I mean, that's how she thought. And
then and then and then in school, Christina came over
to me one day and said she didn't feel that
I should spend any more time with her because people
wouldn't get it, and it was just becoming an issue,
and and and we I never walked her the class.
I never walked her home from school after that. And
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you know, when I was a young kid, still made
quite an impression on me. But um, you know, in
order to look at stand up as all of the
stand up, being racially insensitive to different groups, especially Latinos,
was part of my mix. So you can't pull one
thing out and say, you know, he's racist towards African
American people when I've said worse things about everybody else.
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Cedric D. L Eddie Griffin, who makes anybody anything is
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the gun down. So in comedy, if you're gonna take
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Dot Ai. Now I'm talking to George Lopez, the brilliant
George Lopez. He has a Netflix special that's coming out
of June Tuesday, June thirty. It's called We'll Do It
for Half. We'll Do It for Half. When I started
your interview, George, I told you I'll watch your special twice. Okay,
and this is why I watch this. But first of all,
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I enjoyed it. And then I remember, you know, as
we all were in the beginning, we just won't get
a stage, so we tell some jokes so we can
be funny. That's the goal, Just to be funny. Go
from an opener to a middle act to a headline,
to get that get that first class ticket and you
you traveling, and all that good stuff and anything else
it comes along is a blessing. Okay, that's stuff that's
the life of a stand up of the average stand
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up comic in this country right now. Now, then I
with your website and I saw your brand I saw restaurants,
I saw blue halls, I saw your foundation, I saw
COVID nineteen face mask. I so we can't breathe T
shirts and so so now when I and I said that,
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then I looked at your special again and I put
into perspective all that weight that you're now carrying on
stage with you now when you're performing. So in the beginning,
you didn't carry all that weight. Employees and COVID ninteen
and all that stuff. All that's going on stage with
you now, and that's a lot of people don't understand that.
To be funny man under that amount of global understanding.
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Gave me a truly different perspective and appreciated your comment
even more when I saw it the second time. You
understand where I'm coming from, absolutely, you know, um uh,
I think everybody liked me when my show started. You know,
my show wasn't a huge shit, but it did a
hundred and twenty episodes. It did, you know, five and
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a half years on ABC, which I had company, But
that was the family show with an edge. But I'm
gonna tell you right now that I lost a lot
of people, including people when I started to vocalize and
I started to have my opinion on issues, but also
at the Grammys in two thousand and eight February two
thousand and eight. The election was in November of eight.
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Chris Rock called me on a Monday after the Grammys.
Had said, can I give Barack Obama your telephone number
because he wants to ask you, you know, something about
your support Hillary Clinton's office had sent a facts to
the office, very impersonal, and I said sure. So I'm
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watching the CNN at one fifty two Barack Obama's campaign
the Senator and it's a one fifty five and he's leaving.
And I said, there's no way that this guy is
gonna call me at two o'clock. If I'm watching CNN
and he's leaving an event, there's no way call call
at two third or three two o'clock phone rings low, Uh,
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George Ota, Yes, hold for the Senator. Jared's Barack Obama. Ala, Hey,
I saw the TV. Yeah, I said. He said, listen,
I don't know where you are politically, but you know,
you know vote means a lot to me. I think
the communities have a lot in common. I said, listen, man,
you know I will help you. And then I did
what maybe was the most difficult thing to do in Texas.
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In South Texas is I would go to these theaters
and people would be lined up to see me twice
in an afternoon. I will talk about half an hour
to be a political the mayor, and they'd be some
political speeches, and I would go to a half hour,
maybe four or five minutes, and then I would say
that I'm gonna support Barack Obama. And they would boo
and they would yell and they would hiss, and I
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would be like, listen, listen, listen this, wait a minute,
hang out a second. They would walk out on me,
and then I kept on the message. I stayed and
I started to say, listen, you have a vote for
somebody just because she's not African American. And that's how
you go by the same dayer every time because your
dad brought it, bought it by the same soup, because
your mom bought it. I said, there's choices, and we
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shouldn't just follow it. Man. It was the most difficult
to have your own people turn on you for your
political stance of getting someone to who's different, who's African American.
A lot of there's a lot of racial division between
our cultures as well, and they just they just didn't
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get it until I kept doing it and he started
to do it. But at one time in New Mexico,
we had a rally out there by you of them
and they tore the gates down trying to get in
and they expected twenty thou people. That's fifty thousand people
out there. Wow, you know they're they're learning. It's amazing thing.
And when I'm talking to you, I'm talking to I'm
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almost talking to a historian. Okay. And that's a compliment
right there, because when you said, for forty one years
of comedy, man, because we are people people don't understand
by common community is good comedians. We really just document
things and then we twist them on stage. But we
really are telling the truth in a way. If you
just really broke down what we're saying, we just making
just make it, make it funny because we made real
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sharp or left or right turns, and that's where the
humor comes from. But we're really just telling you the truth.
And when I when I look at COVID nineteen, if
you don't mind me talking about right quick, it's affecting
the Hispanic community or Latino community and the Black community
is being devastated by the COVID nineteen. And then I
went on the website and I was so happy to
see that you are doing your part providing COVID nineteen
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face masks. How did you get into that and what
motivated you to participate at that level? Well, first of all,
you know what not and and let's not even going
to talk about medical and our medical conditions. So I
had a kidney transplant in two thousand five from when
I was married by my wife and gave it to me.
But this was stuff that should have been detected when
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I was a child. I went to bed, you know,
kids went the bed, you know, and instead of saying
that maybe there's something wrong, because there was something wrong,
I just didn't do it because I drank so much
water I couldn't keep it in. And I mean I
had a narrow year. I was born early. I went undetected.
I could have had both my original kidneys. If I
had come from a culture where when somebody went to bed,
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you take him to the doctor. If I would have
had a buck testival, I had an m R I
or something, I could have saved myself. So so the
fact that we ignore situations of our health until clearly
we can't get out of bed. I knew something was wrong.
So so with COVID and and and uh compromise immune system,
and knowing that that it could spread the family, and
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that it's invisible then and that you had to take
it serious. It was a no brainer, man, to to
get involved in the mass, to donate money to charity,
to try to get people the mass as well. But also,
you know, let's talk about D L. Hubley, who uh,
go ahead, uh a symptomatic, So you look at pre
existing conditions. But also I said this, you know, and
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I haven't talked to him about this, but I just
feel like, as as you never want to fall out
on stage, you never want to fall out anywhere. Could
have been driving, could have been anywhere. That may have
been the best thing for him personally, because if it
had happened in the hotel room, he probably would have thought,
I'm fatigued, I didn't eat, I've been traveling and and
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and look past the COVID until maybe it was further
along and now it was more serious. So he raises
the fact that he set out in Nashville a larger
issue is that maybe we shouldn't be rushing back to
the clubs as comedians and as an audience because this
is a real, real, real thing, and as hard as
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it is to get by because a lot of us
don't have disposed income, you only have one life, and
that's the life that you need to protect. I was
right talking to George Lopez. Is comedy special examines race
ethnic relations, especially they have Mexican American culture. Anything different
than this special of this air and on Netflix up
on June, George Lopez, you know, just being incredibly funny.
(23:23):
You're being funny in that, dude, you and I want
to take you too special. You do one in English
and you do one in Spanish. You know that, right?
That's true? Yeah, So I think I think creating the
narrative of the uncle that was like going to the
doctor gangurine and Australia disease and our disease, creating a
also ego also, you know, using wanting to know where
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all the flu comes from, uh, wanting to win other
people's business. All this whole thing about Karen's and all
these people, if they have one thing consistently is they're
all older white women. Because everybody else has found a
way to mind your own business. When I was married,
I was very to a woman that if she saw
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a kid without a parent and the parent was sitting
down two feet away, She's like, you shouldn't let your
kid unattended, I said, and you're gonna get knocked out,
you know, in funding your own business. So we as
a culture mind our own business. But when someone thinks
they're superior to you, they don't have a problem walking
up to you in a restaurant when you're eating, asking
why you're not wearing a mask. But if someone sees me,
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or sees anybody of color in a convenience store and
you're starting to throw uh and word around, you started
to throw some disrespect, you're gonna take. You're gonna take
a two piece combo right by the five hour energy
drinks and those vitamins that can stop your heart. You
too much, man, too much, You too much. Everyone, everyone
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of those days has taken what they've deserved. They saw
that later, go back to your taking flop like a
like a heavy bag. Yes, yes, yes, well man, I
appreciate you, George Lopez. Man, uh, I just wanted to
talk to you man on this on my show, and
uh kind of come from a different and this is
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the fastest whatever I think it's Yeah, it really is.
It's like twenty three minutes right now. But I just
want to let you know just a lot. When people
come on money, make a conversation. Man, I have no agenda,
but your greatness need to be discussed. I just want
to let people hear a little bit of you. You
because there's a man behind those jokes. Let me say that.
Let me say that, you know, the restaurants and the
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beer and all that stuff came to me as an opportunity.
You know. If there's one thing that we have is
we have an imaginative mind. You can be an inventor
and come from no place. Everybody who was an inventor
has come from from not from wealth. They come from
their own idea. If you have an idea for an
invention or something you think is different, don't just live
with that idea. Look online, look for these places. Look
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for a place, because listen, the strangest thing is gonna
happen to you. Nothing is impossible. And if you have
an idea that you think is relevant and it's rug,
somebody will find that idea. If you reach out and
say I have this great idea for something that's true,
that's very true, that's very few George Lopez, I don't
want to hold you, my man. Thank you for taking
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next guest is a comedy legend. I could only put
it like that. He is a legend. I had a
good fortune of meeting him several times when I managed
Steve Harvey and he made a surprise visit on stage
when I was producing b Teach Common Views, so I
know him well. He makes his Netflix original comedy special
premiere with We'll Do It for Half. I saw it
twice as brilliantly funny. He's an entrepreneur with restaurants, based
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on authentic Mexican cuisine from his grandmother's traditional recipes. He
has toured with some of my favorite comedians like Adie Griffin,
DL Hughley and Cedric the Entertainer, and mostly importantly, he
is a trailblazer when he's starting his self produced ABC sitcom,
he stand up comedy specials examins race, ethnic relations, and
especially the Mexican American culture. Please welcome to money making Conversations,
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my man, George Lopez, how are you serve? Hey, my man?
You know, uh, I saw the specially send me a
little link so I can see it earlier. Is I
want to make sure I saw it before I interviewed you?
And uh, how do you just George? Okay, first of all,
when somebody calls you a comedy legend, what is that?
How do you feel when somebody says that about you?
You know, I mean, it's it's so if they were
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if there were doctors, you know, there's so many different
doctors and different and different variety of fields, you know,
so someone would say, you know, he's the scientists, he's
the biotex science, he's a heart doctor, he's a brain surgeony.
This guy's a dentist. This guy's a general practitioner O B. G.
Y N you know, oncologist. So I looked at myself
as almost a bit of a multi faceted doctor. You know.
(03:16):
One of the things that on this sporty one year
journey that I did. You know, I grew up very alone.
I grew up without a male figure. I never knew
my father, I didn't know my mother. My grandparents were
very removed from me. And you know, there was just
something growing up that made me feel like I was
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different than everybody else, not better, just different. And I
couldn't put my finger on it, but it was that
feeling of being different or having a better instinct than
everybody that surrounded me that made me do something that
was probably the most terrifying thing anybody could ever do,
and do it for years without ever seen any improvement.
(04:02):
So legend in the mind of of of the people,
but just somebody who you know, worked hard to create
a different narrative than the narrative that I saw. I'm
gonna tell you some being a former standard comic, did
deaf comedy jam did all the all the comedy specials myself.
I've been blessed like that. So when I saw your special,
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and I've seen your specials in the in the past
where one of your funny, but all your specials are funny.
One of them that really made me laugh with when
you I think Cedric Entertainer was backstage and when you
ended the show you crawled through your your name to
get off stage. Man, that laughed so hard on now
with Joe Herge, What was running through your mind? That
was funny? Dude, Well, you know we that that one
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we did live at the Kennedy Center. I was there
for Eddie Murphy's march Wain and then as I stood
there and I got a couple of jokes off and
I got a huge response. I thought, you know, if
I'm gonna do my HBO special, they wanted to do it,
and a load of way you couldn't find a theater,
but that being there at any place, I thought, you know,
I like this room. It's a perfect size, it's a
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great place. You know. Politically, where we were with the
wall and then everybody was a shade of having the
American flag upside down because upside down means distress. And
as we had a meeting months before the production, because
I had to start to build the set. We were
under an agreement that the director, Troy Miller, who's an
(05:28):
incredible director, to the rest of the development crazy stuff
that we told him that we weren't going to put
the flag upside down, but he said, hell, no, man,
We're putting the flag upside down. So it wasn't until
I got there that day to rehearse that we noticed
that the flag was upside down. And then he said, hey, gee,
you know at the end of your show, you should
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crawl under the wall here said man that as I
said my under that, he goes, yeah, just sit and
and I did it. Man, Man, I laughed so I
wouldn't grab my wife had played that back to look
at this food. He he crawled under his name under
the wall, and then backstage said it was laughing bad.
That was just that's what we're talking about. Legendary stuff, man,
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because that's a stand up. You know. I know the
pressure it takes to be able to go on stage
be original. And when I look at you when I
watched this special, man, this is my this is what
I say about stand up. When I look at a special,
I go wow. I would never thought of that joke.
I wouldn't never thought that joke, and that would that's
your special man and in its own Netflix, and it's
(06:32):
your very first one on them Netflix, and we'll do
it for half and and just tell us about the
whole process of getting it over to Netflix and and
taping it in San Francisco. Well, you know, let me say,
let me say this before you, because you just stand up.
So one thing I think inherited and everyone is some
people everybody has a sense of humor, whether they take
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themselves too serious or they need to lighten up, or
they're dry. One of the things about about comedy and
comedian is is even the odds of even getting a
little bit of light shown on you is so nearly impossible.
But you know, there's so many guys that I saw
growing up, and that I saw in the clubs in
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the eighties and nineties, in the last twenty years that
were so good, that we're so clever, that we're great writers,
and whatever fortune, whatever fate, didn't let anything shine on
those guys. And as as much as the world needs drafter,
there's a whole group of comedians who are incredibly funny
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that no one will ever hear of That's why whatever
you do, do it because you love it. Because you
know there's no guarantee that you're not gonna be one
of those cats that gets any love. But if you
feel good about what you do, then that's already becoming
a success. You know successes and like everybody knows your name,
people see you. Yeah, that that that's great. But the
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one thing is that you never loosen You're never loosening
your grip on something that you can't really get a
grip on. Like I think you work harder when you
get a little love and you start to do theaters
and you start to do arena and you start to
meet the people that you started to to meet on
the way up. I've seen a lot of guys stayed out,
but I always worked the hardest when I had my show,
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when I had my taught show, when I had the specials.
So it's just been something that I've never been able
to relinquish. So going to San Francisco and go into
the war field and knowing the history of it, knowing
that Jimmy Henders played their Janni's Joplin Santana Ravana as
it gas your bed. Everybody that's anybody's been in there,
and you know you can do it anywhere, but when
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you do it in a place that has historical significant
going to be Apollo. Chris Spencer asked me to do
this thing at the Apollo, and going there it may
not mean anything to anybody else. That's not for me
to decide. But what it meant to me to be
on stage with the Apollo, to ryal the road through
to go do Radio City is beyond you know, anybody's
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true imagination or level of appreciation. I'm just I'm just
kind of honored to be able to do the things
that I've always wanted to do. And and and thank
you for explaining that, because I remember I was producing
bats Comic View and you may not even remember this,
and j Anthony Brown was hosting that that run or
Betis Comic View and you came and uh, and we
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were trying to get you to go on stage. Oh no,
it's not my thing. It's not my thing, you know,
as y'all. I'm just here to watch and just wish
everybody good luck. And I remember we got you to
go on stage and you walked on stage, we introduced
you and the whole room of black people stood up
and gave you a standard ovation. And that to me,
you know, because you know, you're always famous with your group,
you know, like you know, like Jeff's felt he famous
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with his crowd, and you know, and you you established
your brand of just being a funny guy. But in
my mind, the mex American culture was your what's your
what's your home run? And when I walked when I
saw you walk out that George, and these black people
stood off because you know, black people just like Hispanics,
you know, they don't they don't give it up or
unless they respect it, okay. And when they walked out
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there and gave you a standard ovation, man, I went,
this dude got it, man, he got something extra going
on in his life. And I just I just That's
why I call you a legend, man, because when you
crossed all these different lanes man with respect, that's beautiful, dude,
that's beautiful. You know. You know I was my grandmother
raised me, and my grandmother was in my act. I
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would say, you know, my grandmother was was racially insensitive,
like like your grandmother's like everybody's grandmother's especially insensitive. So
part of my material is about her relationship with African
American people and then coming to the door not opening
the door her relationship with black people, saying you know what,
like I said, I said, my first girlfriend, there's a
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there's a true story, and it hurts and it's still
funny to this day. Like when I was in the
seventh grade, there was this girl that looked like get
Christie Love. She was in seventh grade. Her name was
Christina Husky, fro, light skin, tall, beautiful, and she liked
me and all my friends gave me a hard time
and I would walk with her the class and I
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you know, I dug her and she was cool. She
lived on the other side of the street from where
I lived, the main street, and one day I was
walking home with her and my grandmother. I guess must
have got off work early and saw me and roll
the window down and hunk the horn and did a
U turn on sa orando mission roll the window down
and says, hey, shat whet your ass home? To call
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me Shaft? When I was walking with this African American girl,
I know how funding you who Shaft was, but she's
like a shot get home, you know, And she flipped out.
So I said, so what what if I like the
black girl so all I know about no? I said, why,
why why is it your concern? She those, because I
don't like them. And if you do, they're gonna see
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me with you, and they're gonna think I like him,
and I don't. I mean, that's how she thought. And
then and then and then in school, Christina came over
to me one day and said she didn't feel that
I should spend any more time with her because people
wouldn't get it, and it was just becoming an issue,
and and and we I never walked her the class.
I never walked her home from school after that. And
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you know, when I was a young kid, still made
quite an impression on me. But um, you know, in
order to look at stand up as all of the
stand up, being racially insensitive to different groups, especially Latinos,
was part of my mix. So you can't pull one
thing out and say, you know, he's racist towards African
American people when I've said worse things about everybody else.
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Dot Ai. Now I'm talking to George Lopez, the brilliant
George Lopez. He has a Netflix special that's coming out
of June Tuesday, June thirty. It's called We'll Do It
for Half. We'll Do It for Half. When I started
your interview, George, I told you I'll watch your special twice. Okay,
and this is why I watch this. But first of all,
(15:43):
I enjoyed it. And then I remember, you know, as
we all were in the beginning, we just won't get
a stage, so we tell some jokes so we can
be funny. That's the goal, Just to be funny. Go
from an opener to a middle act to a headline,
to get that get that first class ticket and you
you traveling, and all that good stuff and anything else
it comes along is a blessing. Okay, that's stuff that's
the life of a stand up of the average stand
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up comic in this country right now. Now, then I
with your website and I saw your brand I saw restaurants,
I saw blue halls, I saw your foundation, I saw
COVID nineteen face mask. I so we can't breathe T
shirts and so so now when I and I said that,
(16:27):
then I looked at your special again and I put
into perspective all that weight that you're now carrying on
stage with you now when you're performing. So in the beginning,
you didn't carry all that weight. Employees and COVID ninteen
and all that stuff. All that's going on stage with
you now, and that's a lot of people don't understand that.
To be funny man under that amount of global understanding.
(16:51):
Gave me a truly different perspective and appreciated your comment
even more when I saw it the second time. You
understand where I'm coming from, absolutely, you know, um uh,
I think everybody liked me when my show started. You know,
my show wasn't a huge shit, but it did a
hundred and twenty episodes. It did, you know, five and
(17:12):
a half years on ABC, which I had company, But
that was the family show with an edge. But I'm
gonna tell you right now that I lost a lot
of people, including people when I started to vocalize and
I started to have my opinion on issues, but also
at the Grammys in two thousand and eight February two
thousand and eight. The election was in November of eight.
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Chris Rock called me on a Monday after the Grammys.
Had said, can I give Barack Obama your telephone number
because he wants to ask you, you know, something about
your support Hillary Clinton's office had sent a facts to
the office, very impersonal, and I said sure. So I'm
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watching the CNN at one fifty two Barack Obama's campaign
the Senator and it's a one fifty five and he's leaving.
And I said, there's no way that this guy is
gonna call me at two o'clock. If I'm watching CNN
and he's leaving an event, there's no way call call
at two third or three two o'clock phone rings low, Uh,
(18:19):
George Ota, Yes, hold for the Senator. Jared's Barack Obama. Ala, Hey,
I saw the TV. Yeah, I said. He said, listen,
I don't know where you are politically, but you know,
you know vote means a lot to me. I think
the communities have a lot in common. I said, listen, man,
you know I will help you. And then I did
what maybe was the most difficult thing to do in Texas.
(18:41):
In South Texas is I would go to these theaters
and people would be lined up to see me twice
in an afternoon. I will talk about half an hour
to be a political the mayor, and they'd be some
political speeches, and I would go to a half hour,
maybe four or five minutes, and then I would say
that I'm gonna support Barack Obama. And they would boo
and they would yell and they would hiss, and I
(19:04):
would be like, listen, listen, listen this, wait a minute,
hang out a second. They would walk out on me,
and then I kept on the message. I stayed and
I started to say, listen, you have a vote for
somebody just because she's not African American. And that's how
you go by the same dayer every time because your
dad brought it, bought it by the same soup, because
your mom bought it. I said, there's choices, and we
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shouldn't just follow it. Man. It was the most difficult
to have your own people turn on you for your
political stance of getting someone to who's different, who's African American.
A lot of there's a lot of racial division between
our cultures as well, and they just they just didn't
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get it until I kept doing it and he started
to do it. But at one time in New Mexico,
we had a rally out there by you of them
and they tore the gates down trying to get in
and they expected twenty thou people. That's fifty thousand people
out there. Wow, you know they're they're learning. It's amazing thing.
And when I'm talking to you, I'm talking to I'm
(20:08):
almost talking to a historian. Okay. And that's a compliment
right there, because when you said, for forty one years
of comedy, man, because we are people people don't understand
by common community is good comedians. We really just document
things and then we twist them on stage. But we
really are telling the truth in a way. If you
just really broke down what we're saying, we just making
just make it, make it funny because we made real
(20:29):
sharp or left or right turns, and that's where the
humor comes from. But we're really just telling you the truth.
And when I when I look at COVID nineteen, if
you don't mind me talking about right quick, it's affecting
the Hispanic community or Latino community and the Black community
is being devastated by the COVID nineteen. And then I
went on the website and I was so happy to
see that you are doing your part providing COVID nineteen
(20:51):
face masks. How did you get into that and what
motivated you to participate at that level? Well, first of all,
you know what not and and let's not even going
to talk about medical and our medical conditions. So I
had a kidney transplant in two thousand five from when
I was married by my wife and gave it to me.
But this was stuff that should have been detected when
(21:12):
I was a child. I went to bed, you know,
kids went the bed, you know, and instead of saying
that maybe there's something wrong, because there was something wrong,
I just didn't do it because I drank so much
water I couldn't keep it in. And I mean I
had a narrow year. I was born early. I went undetected.
I could have had both my original kidneys. If I
had come from a culture where when somebody went to bed,
(21:34):
you take him to the doctor. If I would have
had a buck testival, I had an m R I
or something, I could have saved myself. So so the
fact that we ignore situations of our health until clearly
we can't get out of bed. I knew something was wrong.
So so with COVID and and and uh compromise immune system,
and knowing that that it could spread the family, and
(21:56):
that it's invisible then and that you had to take
it serious. It was a no brainer, man, to to
get involved in the mass, to donate money to charity,
to try to get people the mass as well. But also,
you know, let's talk about D L. Hubley, who uh,
go ahead, uh a symptomatic, So you look at pre
existing conditions. But also I said this, you know, and
(22:18):
I haven't talked to him about this, but I just
feel like, as as you never want to fall out
on stage, you never want to fall out anywhere. Could
have been driving, could have been anywhere. That may have
been the best thing for him personally, because if it
had happened in the hotel room, he probably would have thought,
I'm fatigued, I didn't eat, I've been traveling and and
(22:39):
and look past the COVID until maybe it was further
along and now it was more serious. So he raises
the fact that he set out in Nashville a larger
issue is that maybe we shouldn't be rushing back to
the clubs as comedians and as an audience because this
is a real, real, real thing, and as hard as
(23:02):
it is to get by because a lot of us
don't have disposed income, you only have one life, and
that's the life that you need to protect. I was
right talking to George Lopez. Is comedy special examines race
ethnic relations, especially they have Mexican American culture. Anything different
than this special of this air and on Netflix up
on June, George Lopez, you know, just being incredibly funny.
(23:23):
You're being funny in that, dude, you and I want
to take you too special. You do one in English
and you do one in Spanish. You know that, right?
That's true? Yeah, So I think I think creating the
narrative of the uncle that was like going to the
doctor gangurine and Australia disease and our disease, creating a
also ego also, you know, using wanting to know where
(23:45):
all the flu comes from, uh, wanting to win other
people's business. All this whole thing about Karen's and all
these people, if they have one thing consistently is they're
all older white women. Because everybody else has found a
way to mind your own business. When I was married,
I was very to a woman that if she saw
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a kid without a parent and the parent was sitting
down two feet away, She's like, you shouldn't let your
kid unattended, I said, and you're gonna get knocked out,
you know, in funding your own business. So we as
a culture mind our own business. But when someone thinks
they're superior to you, they don't have a problem walking
up to you in a restaurant when you're eating, asking
why you're not wearing a mask. But if someone sees me,
(24:29):
or sees anybody of color in a convenience store and
you're starting to throw uh and word around, you started
to throw some disrespect, you're gonna take. You're gonna take
a two piece combo right by the five hour energy
drinks and those vitamins that can stop your heart. You
too much, man, too much, You too much. Everyone, everyone
(24:52):
of those days has taken what they've deserved. They saw
that later, go back to your taking flop like a
like a heavy bag. Yes, yes, yes, well man, I
appreciate you, George Lopez. Man, uh, I just wanted to
talk to you man on this on my show, and
uh kind of come from a different and this is
(25:13):
the fastest whatever I think it's Yeah, it really is.
It's like twenty three minutes right now. But I just
want to let you know just a lot. When people
come on money, make a conversation. Man, I have no agenda,
but your greatness need to be discussed. I just want
to let people hear a little bit of you. You
because there's a man behind those jokes. Let me say that.
Let me say that, you know, the restaurants and the
(25:34):
beer and all that stuff came to me as an opportunity.
You know. If there's one thing that we have is
we have an imaginative mind. You can be an inventor
and come from no place. Everybody who was an inventor
has come from from not from wealth. They come from
their own idea. If you have an idea for an
invention or something you think is different, don't just live
with that idea. Look online, look for these places. Look
(25:56):
for a place, because listen, the strangest thing is gonna
happen to you. Nothing is impossible. And if you have
an idea that you think is relevant and it's rug,
somebody will find that idea. If you reach out and
say I have this great idea for something that's true,
that's very true, that's very few George Lopez, I don't
want to hold you, my man. Thank you for taking
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