E466: Tai Savet, Quincy Harris, Orlena Nwokah Blanchard, Don & Phor Brumfield

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on this show in Philadelphia just recently, had a great
time and realized that a lot of a lot of
fan members because on that show wants to show air.
A lot of people went to my site money Making

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because it's your airs at different times in that market.
He's a television host, radio host, media expert, brand influencer
and public speaker. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations, Quincy Harris,
Thank you sir. How are you doing? First of all,
I'm doing really good. UM. I was in Miami with

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you last week. UM sat down and chat so for
I know you have the show in Philadelphia. Why were
you at NAPTI, your NAPTIVES Association of Television Programmer Executives,
where you go down there if you want to get syndicated,
if you big thing they was talking about down there
and NAPTI. Of course streaming is the rage, but also
podcast was on a lot of people's conversation down there.

(03:37):
Uh you know, Jada Pinker was down there. She announced
the show got picked up through Facebook, through I think two.
Then Gloria Estevan it's a spinoff version of her show
alone with her niece and her daughter. So they started
to like, you know, We're Housewives of Atlanta, were Housewiser California,
Beverly Hill, New Jersey. Were you about to see Red Table, Tino,

(04:00):
Red Table? Yeah, all this Russia, let's all this stuff.
So so we know when you have a successful brand,
especially to talk to your arena. It's very small for
her to know that. Okay, no, no, no, no, it's
my brand. Now I'm gonna start extending it so I
can give me some text hire sleep because that's all
we have won points. It's sleeping money, sleeping sleep like that.

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But the reason I was down there one, Um, you
know you talk about different steps, right, And one of
my steps in my career is to find mentors, whether
I get to talk to them or I just get
to like take information from their different um, their different
lives and their different paths. So um, knowingly you don't

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even notice. You were already on my board, Like I
have a kill list, right, people I need to meet,
need to talk to, and you were already on that list.
Thank you. So you were on that list and it
was you. It was um, oh my god, she slipped
in my mind Byron Allen, You Byron Allen, Steve Harvey, uh,

(05:03):
Stephen A. Smith, Um, Chris Abrego from fifty one minds,
like all these different people. So, um, I've studied and
all of these people have gone to that na peek. Right.
So I talked to um not name dropping, but I
talked to Mari Povig's people and they were like, hey,
Mario will be at nap nappy. Then I saw you
you said nappy. I was like, you know what, this

(05:24):
is the year I need to be at NAPIA. And
you were the deciding factor of me going because this
was I've been trying to go to this event for
the last five years and three days before I talked
to you someone you know, you know, Mari Po Just
people said Napty, you said NAPTI, I said, I gotta go.

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So I needed to know, uh, not only from a
from a perspective of you know, I'm talent on air,
but I need to know what the executives know and
what the executives look at. And you know, the information
I walked away from from Nape forever change me. Even
this our one on one conversation him broaden um, my perspective.

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So I really appreciate you for that as well. Well,
it's it's it's what I do. Okay, um again, it's
really funny Chris and brego. You know in the mall,
in the mall, what I did in Steve Harvard Talk
show Steve Harvard, everybody knows. I managed it for sixteen years.
Currently I managed Steven A. Smith. So so so we
really would really would narrowing it down just one person

(06:26):
meet you need to be, you need to be because
barn Ellen, I don't know. I know Barron Ellen from
my stand up comedy days, and he was there getting
a great speech and he's on the top of the
world with his with his what he's come from and
so so when I look at you as a talent,
I did your show, very comfortable show, and I was
I walked over. My walk away was like, Okay, this

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young man should expand his brand. He should be bigger
than this in this market. But sometimes you can get
trapped into a market. Not saying you trapped, but you
know you want to syndicate, and sometimes deals won't let
you syndicate because they have a different vision it for you.
So what is the ultimate vision for Well, first of all,
before before you answer that question, what was your experience
coming to NAPTI. It was for me it exceeded um

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my wildest expectations for me going into NAPTI. I was
a guy you know, I go I come from radio
going into television, I thought I was just doing the
show in Philly and no one can see it. Um.
I met a lot of executives there that knew who
I was, which me away that was number one. Number
two the information of streaming and o T T over

(07:36):
the top technology which our industry and television is going towards. UM.
That that helped me. So I said, okay, this is
where I need to go, and gave me the insight
of you know, some of the people that I worked
for here at Fox UM there the vision of what
television looks like moving forward. So for me, it was

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it was something I wish I would have done four
or five years ago. But I'm I'm really glad I
made the last minute decision after I talked to you
to go to that. Absolutely. NAPPY is the National Association
of Television Program Executives is a professional associative of television
and emergent media executives. And people come down there. They
have they have seminars, they have panels, and also more important,

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they have buyers buyers of television shows and and also
they have speakers and who tell you about their experience.
And it's really is if you're trying to get in
the television business, I want to get educated by the
television business. You know, you can buy a day pass,
I think a day pass just to come by and
see the activities, like six six hundred dollars a day
just to go in and just be able to see

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the different booths and different different lanes of information that
are being processed while you're down there. And so one
of the great things that we got to do is
I got to really spend some none you know, TV
time with with Quincy and sit down with him and
we we looked over your SiZ of reels and and
I just gave you my level of expert expertise as

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to why this word because he had two different sizzlar el.
My whole concept was emerging. Its warm because that's what
I do. What I do is I'm able to look
at talent, and this young man is talented. So now
he just has to make decisions now because and they're
tough decisions because sometimes, you know, I love IBM. I
went to one of the roads of stand up comic.
I went to New York, and I went to l A,
then went from l A back to Houston. And all

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these are life changing decisions because of the fact that
has is he is Philly the right place for him.
That's the decision he has to make now. Because I
can easily see him on e I can easily see
him on you know, entertainment tonight. I can easy to
see him on There's so many things I could easily
see him on. But guess what they're not in the

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Philadelphia Yeah, exactly, as well as as well as the
emerging technology of other shows that we have mentioned that
are being on, you know, on Roku channels and podcast channels.
It's a lot of really really cool things. So when
I look at the talent, like like Quincy Harris, you
know who's based in Philadelphia, you know, I'm I'm I

(10:01):
gotta wait till heat makes that decision before I can
step in and go, hey man, I can do this
for you, because certain things you can't not do if
you're not available consistently for people to see you. And
that's why I wanted you to come down to NAPTI
and let you know. It's what people know you, my man,
way more than you think they know you now. Now
now they're gonna say, well yet that the question you

(10:24):
have that where are you located in so and and
the frustration can happen is that you can move to
l A. You can move up to New York and
guess what six months later you brought me. I could
have stayed in Philadelphia. They're no guarantees, They're no guarantee.
But I'm just telling you, Quincy, you are talented, my friend.
Thank you very much. No, I appreciate it. It was

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It's funny I lived in Philly my entire life, and
then I moved to l A with no job. This
was in two thousand and seven, and I landed a
radio gig with Big Boy, who syndicated radio hosts out there,
and I learned from him, and I was out there
for about almost five years and then me coming back home.
You know, Um, I stayed home. I was here, and

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then I transitioned into you know, my television show here
at Fox, which is you know, it's been a great opportunity.
But again, you know, you can look at other people's
stories and just see like, Okay, I need to write
my own story. But you also have to keep changing
and keep reinventing yourself and keep um taking risks. So
I'm yeah, I'm a I'm all for it. I definitely, um,

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you know, everything that aligns the way it needs to align.
So I'm I'm appreciative of just our connection in the
last you know, two weeks before we get off, let's
talk about your podcast as on Spotify. Yes, I have
a podcast called Frequency Frequency Ak a freerequency. UM. The
one thing I've done in my radio career, UM, I've

(11:51):
been able to you know, talk to different people, but
a lot of times. You can only talk to people
on radio for three to four minutes. Six minutes is
a stretch on television. It's even quicker, right, You're you're
only getting like three minutes um. This is a podcast
where I'm able to talk to people for twenty thirty
minutes um. And you know it. Just get the show. Uh,

(12:12):
just the wide range of interests and people that I
can talk to. I can talk to anybody about a
various um amount of things. And this is what I'm
showing on the Frequency podcast. Man. We're gonna talk soon,
you know, sir. Life is good. I have an agenda
for you, and the agenda is to leave with your
gifts in twenty twenty because you have many gifts. And uh, thanks,

(12:36):
keep me with your agenda, brother, because I believe in you, Harris.
I appreciate it, and we're gonna talk soon. Okay, I
appreciate your brother much. Love. Hi. This is Rushan McDonald,
the host of Money Making Conversation. You say to yourself
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thing about it. Little thing my next day. As a

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business leader, media executive and multicultural marketing an expert with
over twenty five years, I got thirty years, so I
gotta beat she got twenty five years. I got thirty
years of experience building value for Fortune five hundred companies
and startups. She is President and CEO of Jourd Collective,
where she leads marketing, strategy and operations for a diverse
portfolio of clients. Please welcome to money making Conversations or

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Lena and Walco Blanchards. Hello, good money Nigeria, Miss Nigerian Queen.
Right and get it right. You got to get that
right because you know I can't just sell or Leno Blanchard.
Then we've got a little fight on our hands. No, no, no,
we gotta have we gotta have the Nigerian so my

(14:47):
people would be on me. So yes, absolutely, thank you
for that. We'll tell us about the background because it
is it is a source of pride and h and
being able to keep that as part of your your introduction.
So talk about the house that relationship. Do well you're
in your life now. And how far as your parents
you got over to America, you're born in America, how
did you work? No, thank you for that. So um yes,

(15:10):
as far as my history and when Nigerian plays an
important role, I'm Nigerian first and foremost. So I was
born to a British mother in Nigerian Province. I grew
up my childhood in England in Nigeria, but really my
my elementary school primary school years in Nigeria and then
I moved to the United States and middle school so
as an adolescent and um, you know, it's an interesting

(15:31):
transition as an African immigrant, a mixed African immigrant in
um in America in the nineteen eighties. So what's always
been such an important part of my identity though a
dominant part of my identity is being Nigerian. And you
see that just I mean prison you're in, you know,
you're in the entertainment industry. So now you see more
Nigerian Americans like Yvonne aug and Cynthia Rivo and other

(15:55):
people celebrating, you know, our culture, and so it's just
really and we're very proud people. So even though British
is part of my history and I've lived in the
United States for more than thirty years, I consider myself
and identify with being Nigerians first and foremost. So I
am absolutely have to have that in my name. I mean,
the other part is I lost my father um many

(16:17):
years ago, and so part of honoring his legacy and
part of just being my father's daughter, which is so
much of who I am, is making sure that I
represent him and represent where I come from. So that's
why my maiden name is I actually had legally changed
to my middle name when I became an American citizen
just a year ago, and so that's an important part

(16:39):
of who I am and it very much informs everything
I do and my point of view on the world. So, um,
you see how many years you've been aware? I changed
in seeing now rashand he's going to age me. No, No,
I don't want to age because the United States the
nineteen four But you're so clean it it sounds very British.

(17:02):
It sounds very British because I learned to speak English
in England. I learned to speak in England, so the
first seven or eight years of my life. And yeah,
I'm not I'm not gonna buy that. I'm like, I
see too many British actors come over here speaking English
like they bought over here. It's just amazing because we
can imitate it. Okay, I can't trust me. I faced

(17:24):
the funk for many, many years because as a teenager,
you want to sit in but in Nigerian. In my house,
my father was a poll that I would use any
other accent other than British or Nigerian, or at least
a refined Nigerian accent, and so I couldn't at home.
So I had to maintain as much as I faced
it my sister girl accent outside of the house, I

(17:46):
had to maintainment inside because it wasn't sort of acceptable.
So I've always had this because this is how I've
spoken at home. And one day, um, my brother, my
older brother, just said to me, he said, okay, we
have to stop for turn day. Um we are American
one day and we're something else the next day. Just
be who you are. Really were struggled. I did with

(18:09):
with somewhat of an identity crisis as a mixed African
in America. So finally at some point I said, you know,
this is what it is. And some days people say
you sound like you're straight out of DC or something.
In the next minute, you sound like you're out of
the NIGERI because I can speak pigeon English, or you
sound like you're right off the boat from England, and
that's just who I am. Well you England, and I'm

(18:32):
speaking to the British role that the time we're done,
I might be sister Girl today, but I'm very British.
Even when you say sister girl, you need to stop,
it sounds so British. The girl, the girl that stop
working on it's not working on your family. You get
an F on Sisterhood, the girlhood help it. But we're

(18:56):
our next conversation will have will do it in an idea,
an accent, and then that will be that would be different. Oh,
that'd be totally different. Well, thank you for coming on
my show. Money Making Conversations followed your career. I followed
your brand and Joy Collective is something that's that's uh,
that's based in the Maryland District of Columbia, d C. Area. Correct,
it is, So tell us what exactly and how did

(19:19):
the name come about? Because you're just president and CEO
of Joy Collective. First of all, tell us how the
name came about and what exactly does JR Collective do. Yes, well,
I'm super excited to talk about Joy. First of all,
I would be remiss if I didn't say the founding
of Joy actually was by my business partner and co owner,
Kelly Joy Richardson Lawson. We have similar stories and that

(19:42):
she lost her father and it was such a transformative
moment in her life that she decided she wanted to
create a company that was really committed to celebrating joy
and creating joy for for herself. And just having more
joy in her life, especially in her business UM work,
And so I joined her. She's been a good friend

(20:03):
for many, many years, and I joined her a few
months after she created JOY and just to give everybody
a um an understanding of who we are and what
we do. JOY is a cultural intelligence, marketing and creative
agency UM. And yes we're headquartered in DC. And what
does that mean? Well, UM, first of all, marketing and advertising,

(20:24):
that is what we do, and we do suit to nuts.
We do anything from helping companies build marketing strategies to
executing those UM. We do video production, we do events,
all of that. But we do that from the lens
of cultural intelligence in a world that looks very different
now than it did five and twenty years ago. And

(20:44):
we see companies making so many mistakes these days, like
which on you know, we all look sideways when Gucci was,
you know, doing black face sweaters and Product was doing
all kinds of craziness, and we see all these ads
by H and M and so a lot out of
times companies will call us after they've made mistakes, but
a lot of companies are calling us now beforehand to say,

(21:07):
help us understand a new consumer marketplace, which we call
Polly cultural, which is you've got so many generations and
you've got so many consumers of color. We help companies
really understand the lifestyle, the values of behavior of consumers,
and then we help them craft business strategies that help
speak to people like us, right, people in our community. Um,

(21:30):
so they get it because you know what, most companies
realize that they were all just changed and they have
to do something different, but they don't know how because
they haven't had to for so many years they've spoken
to a majority white audience. So that's um, that's what
aper at times, right in that space. You're like a
gatekeeper at times for making sure the brand is correctly

(21:52):
effective so it doesn't fall in line with because what
you don't know can can come back and bite you.
That's a hundred percent correct. That's correct. And the other
thing that's really really important is that we are black owned,
we are women owned. When you look at our staff,
you look at all of the people who are part
of the Joy team, we are so diverse. We're diverse

(22:13):
in age, we're diverse in nationality, were diverse in in ethnicity,
and so we really believe in building a team that
represents the world that we live in, so that when
we speak to and help companies realize how to do
things differently. We're speaking from a position of professional expertise,
but we're speaking from a position of personal experience as
well well. Experiences everything you have to drive, it drives

(22:36):
how people, how much you can get paid, how much success.
You look at the resume, your bio. Now you have
a background in the relationship with TV one and the
digital side of it. Correct, I do, I do. I
actually used to leave digital media for TV one. I
was were TV one for seven years. I did um.
I led the digital media department the last two years

(22:58):
and I was there. So I did a out of
work early on with TV one, just trying to get
a new cable network out in the marketplace. Um and
so I did that, uh yeah, for seven years. And
you know my background. So people may think now if
you see me my title as a as a marketing executive,
most people would not know that I'm a former engineer.

(23:20):
So I actually started my career twenty five years ago
as a computer programmer and a consultant coming in systems integration.
If some folks may remember the big Arthur Anderson Company
UM and I used to work there and and so
the did. The world of digital that we live in
now makes so much sense for me because my technical

(23:41):
training and background as an engineer was a perfect mix
with my U NBA and marketing and now it shows
up in that all of the work that we do
essentially sits you know, on this in this digital world.
So makes a lot of sense for me. No. I
had many guests on the show. One of the recent

(24:02):
guests I hand on the show was with a a
ARP that was one of the platforms that you guys
work with as far as marketing. When a when a
brand like that comes to you, what are some of
the steps or the pitch of the platforms and research
says you have to put together so we can move
forward in a positive direction. The brand is a r P.
And I also was so excited about it. I ranted
on my own social media platform as well, Oh I

(24:26):
love it. Well, No, I'm so glad, you asked, because
in terms of like the type of work we do,
how do we even kick that off? So a RP
came to us with another organization called AD Council, And
for those who don't know, AD Council is one of
those organizations that does a lot of work, a lot
of p s a s. They stand for things that
really have positive impact in the community. So they came

(24:46):
to us and they said, look, black women don't invest
in retirement the way other people do. And you and
I know Rashan like in our community. Do you remember
when Chris Rock said there's rich and then is wealthy.
But we haven't had the opportunity to amass wealth in
our community just given our history. So what's a RP there?

(25:08):
They came and they said they want to help create
room for more Black women to invest in retirement, to
invest in their future and their legacy that they leave
for their families. And so they asked us to help
them understand what's important to black women. What is it
that's preventing black women from investing in retirement when they

(25:32):
have they have jobs, they have income, they have four
one K plans, And so that was part of the understanding.
The first thing that we do is we sit with them.
We look at research. A lot of companies invest in data.
We hear all this stuff about research, like you know
what people do and how they behave, but you don't
know why and so we helped them understand like the
history of why black women take care of everybody else

(25:55):
but don't necessarily take care of themselves, and why we
feel it's selfish. You know, really interesting. It's really interesting
because any advertiser, they always talk about the female controls
the purse of the house, of the buying powers by
the female. You know, when the advertisers want to know, Okay,
women watching the show, women listening to the show, women
of the brand, even professional football while you think they

(26:17):
have female sideline reporters now because they're trying to get
women to watch football even though everybody's watching it. They
want more women because so and so when you when
you say something like women, but know when they have
all this power, listening power, buying power, you ain't power,
participation power. When it calls the retirement, the women don't

(26:38):
take care of themselves because, like you said, they're spending
money on everybody else, take care of everybody else, branding
everybody else, but not branding themselves through retirement. That's pretty amazing.
That's so we were able to help create a campaign
it encourages black women to invest in themselves. One last request,
please send me something I can post about the Tamela

(27:00):
Man campaign because she's a wonderful person. Again, the She
Heroes campaign I supported. I have six sisters. I supported
it on my my, my personal as well as my
money making conversation platform. Again, Kelly, long term friend, way
back to the BT days. So I will always support
any of her brands, but more important to getting to
know you and your British journey and your Nigerian journey journey,

(27:25):
and and your and just being you or Lena and
Wo Blanche. I can't help this see me, but rich Ton,
you make it easy. Thank you for everything that you do.
I love money, like making conversations about She really enjoyed
listening um to so many of your podcasts. You have
fantastic interviews and you really are inspiring us for Thank

(27:45):
you for being used. Appreciate you, but get that get
that man to me. We talked soon. I appreciate you.
I will do I'll make it happen my next guest.
It's the founder of the real estate brokerage firm Agents
of l A, a luxury real estate group is a

(28:06):
real estate agent found of Agents of l a real
estate broker's firm. Producer entrepreneur and TV personality. I like
that point. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations time, Savy Man.
Thank you for having me on your show. And uh,
I just listened to the whole part. And I need
to step my game up on my own podcast because
you're killing it. I mean, I feel like I just

(28:28):
got schooled, you know. So it is it isn't honor
to be on your show, and um ma'am, I need
you as my mentor. Actually at this point, man, please
but thank you for that compliment. I will be your mentor.
That's why this show because a lot of people have
asked me over the years, you know, as an individual.
And so I started money Making Conversation in twenty seventeen.

(28:48):
I was doing it on my Facebook page. I was
doing it on Mondays and people will responding and I
was only going to give an hour, and you know,
when people respond, they want you to respond back. And
so I was sitting there for three hours. And once
I stopped managing Steve Harvey, I started to be able
to talk and start considering what I wanted my brand
to beat, and it was about providing information and mentorship.
And so that that that intro did you got know

(29:11):
that intro has been written many many years for many celebrities,
and I always feel that you are you are a
blessing to be on my show. You're providing information to
the people who listened to my show, and I want
to continue this relationship. Let you know that coming on
my show, I gotta do my homework. Tie, So that's
all that. I just did my homework, brother, And you're
special man. Man. You know, it's like I just feel

(29:33):
like there's so much about you, and you know, I'm
doing my research about you. You know, literally, as I'm
sitting here, I'm really impressed. You know, you're Steve Harvey's
a manager, right or ex manager, and you've been with
him and he had a radio show. Were you part
of that? Well? I created radio show. We created it
in two thousand and uh in the l A. I
negotiated the largest local UH radio personality deal in the

(29:55):
country uh WE Radio one at the time, and then
in two thousand and five we would UH. I always
felt he was that that show should be Nashal. It
always felt that way. In two thousand and five, we
moved to New York City and syndicated the show nationally
and the rest is history. You know three three number
one bestsellers that turned into a movie. Or think like
a man and think like a man. Think like a

(30:16):
man too. Now manage Stephen A. Smith. He's one of
my clients. Uh, the most popular, uh sports media person
in the world right there, Steven D. Smith. So I
think what I do is not accidental, tie, And I
think I saw something about an emmy. Yeah, I have
two emmis, uh, two emmis for television and uh and
so you know, I look at my life and uh

(30:38):
you know my book will be out in January one
and it's about not accepting the average. And uh, I don't.
I don't come from a family. Nobody rescued my family
and moved into a better neighborhood. Nobody told me that
that if I went to school that I would one
day become uh successful. It was just through hard work time.
And now I tried to continue to say that on

(31:00):
this show and everybody that meet that I am you
through hard work, through proper planning, and I will continue
to be you and you can be me. Now well
I separate the liners through athletics and physicality that I
will not donk like Lebrod. I will not shoot it
like Steph Curry. I will not throw the ball like
Deshaun Watson. But I know I can I can think

(31:23):
with them, I can compete with them mentally. And so
that's the world that a majority of our people out
there can compete in. And so when I bring individuals
on the show, I just want you to share your story,
your ups and downs, because we all have downs and
I don't uh. And sometimes when you look at Hollywood,
all you see is the magic side of a story,
you know, and you can tell a great story in
thirty minutes or twenty two minutes if it's a commercial

(31:45):
TV or an hour. Go see a movie in three hours,
and they go from the beginning, middle, and end. But
life is not like that. It's a journey, and my
life is still part of that process. I did a
I did a video or with Tom Bill You and
it went viral, things like and m. One of the
things that I talked about in their video was about

(32:06):
not restricting one's growth through their age, and it hit
home with a lot of people because I've noticed that
when people hit a certain age, especially in their fifties,
they kind of they're kind of in a race to
the retirement line, and and and the feeling that something's
gonna happen. And I looked at it, and I looked
up what you would get when you retired. Despite all
the money I've made in my life, if I retired

(32:27):
at the age of sixt or six, the check I
would give between eight hundred dollars more. Wow, all them all,
and I made some money. Now time I made some money,
that's the check I would get, you know. So, so
I'm trying to figure out what are people racing two
to retire if that's your pot of goal. And so
if that's your pot of goal, because you've been misinformed

(32:50):
and you've been misled by some some ill informed level
of propaganda people out there talking about they got they got,
somebody's gonna take care of them, and that's not true.
And so my whole part and purpose of this show
is to provide that that negative education so you can
realize that if fifty you can still reach your dreams
at sixty, you can reach reach your dream at seventy.
Don't stop life. Life provides opportunities. So that's my tone,

(33:14):
that's that's the purpose of why I do money making conversations.
And when I bring an individual like you who is
different from me, who speaks different from me, who lives
a different walk of life, but who share similar stories
of success, similar stories of setbacks. And I just want
to let people know who come on, who listens to
the show, that can be you. Your success story can
be motivation as long as you realize how hard this

(33:35):
young man is working, how committed to proper planning this
young man has. That's the story that I want to
be told on this show, and people deliver it on
the regular Brasis. And that's why when we sit around
and I look at the various people who can come
on my show, I can't keep telling the same story.
You know. You know what, I'll jump in here because

(33:55):
I think the most important thing for any viewer or
listener out there is to have passion and motivation, get
up with the right tone. And you know, for myself personally,
you know, I wake up every morning early and I
get my thoughts collected and U I get my goals
planned out, you know, every day, every week, every month,

(34:18):
every year. You know, it's not just a thought, it's
a dream and a dream that I'm going to make reality.
And um, you know, I think anybody has the chance
to to to meet their goals as long as they
move in the right direction. And you know, it's set
expectations too, you know. For myself, you know it's it's

(34:39):
I'm I'm success um goal oriented. You know, it's not
really about the money. It's really about the passion and
what really drives me. And I think anybody that wants
to do anything with their life, they have to find
the right passion and that's where they're going to meet success.
It's really what you're saying that I always tell people's
doubt about the money, it's abo the opportunity. You you

(35:01):
push the opportunity and planned opportunity and guess what you
make money. And so that is what you just said.
It is what I believe in, and that's why I
said that when I wanted you to. I just want
to let everybody know that. You know, I get up
at four fifteen every day. That's a step on Saturday
and Sunday, and so i'm early because I do collect
my thoughts. People said, what are you doing. I said, well,
I get up. You know, I'm not happy to get up.

(35:22):
So I'm just collecting my thoughts and I've learned that
getting up at four o'clock four fifteen and getting up
at six changes the whole approach to my day. So
you're saying a lot of things that I've been preaching
on this podcast and the syndicated radio network for the
last couple of years, and we've never met. Yep, that's
it's weird. But you know what those a lot of

(35:43):
people have this mindset where they think that that they'll
do it in the future. People don't have the mindset
that their life's really running out. You know, life is
a gift and every day you wake up, that's your gift.
So use it to the fullest extent. You know. Even
with this conversation that we're having, you know, it's we're
gonna take some people out there what it takes to
actually success. You know, I woke up early this morning,

(36:04):
just like you went to the gym. I'm currently on
a walk right now because I want to put that
out in my my goal sheet. So as we're we're talking,
I'm walking. You know, I'm burning some calories right because
that's my goals. And um, you know, people people don't
really have the mentality they think, you know, I'll just
do it tomorrow or I'll do it the next day. No,
the time is right now, don't wait. You know, if

(36:25):
you have something that you want to do, put it,
put it on paper, figure out how long it's gonna take,
and then you know, check around, find out who's doing
what you're doing. Do the research, just like what you've done.
You know you've done your research. I'm embarrassed that I
haven't done all my research. I called my publicist this
morning and I said, tell me about Rashan, And then
I started looking at you, looking you up, and then

(36:46):
you start telling me about me. I'm like, dang, okay,
you know, I gotta get on my A game. I
gotta get on my A game to be like you.
But you know, I'm I'm, you know, ecstatic that we're
having this conversation because I think that, you know, I'll
learn some game for you, you'll learn something from me
absolute And you know, I think that I'm not sure
where you want to go with everything, but this is
your show. Well, first of all, you're going right where

(37:08):
I want you to go. You have a story to tale.
I can tell the motivational and information you've You've dropped
some nuggets on this show. And those are the type
of nuggets that I want all my guests to drop.
But you on Fire to Date, my friend, uh, you
host and created a podcast All Tied Up. Tell us
about it and the why that you created them. A
lot of popular names on it that I'm from there with.
Talk to us about All Tied Up. Well, you know,

(37:31):
in the beginning, um, the podcast was well, it seemed
like the right thing to do because I have the
relationships with a ton of celebrities and a lot of
people are so scared to ask questions. But they don't
realize that these celebrities are just like me and you
without being a celebrity. They're just normal people that have
a story. And I was telling my publicist this morning
that you know t Bos, She's the only person I

(37:52):
know that reaches out to me just to see how
I'm doing. No, no, no expectations, no nothing. But people
don't know her stories about having sickle cell and the
business of you know, where she where she came from.
And this is what the podcast is really about. It's
about celebrities and significant and and and and big personality
people to talk about their business, where they came, where

(38:14):
they came from, who they are where they're going, and
asking the questions you know that are are you know
that that are that are going in through your brain
and my brain at the same time, and ask him
because maybe you're you don't want to ask him, you
don't want to offend them. Just ask him a question.
You know. I had teabots crying on my TV show.
I had a guy that you know, his name's Mike.
You know, it's caveat Gold, you know, and he owns

(38:35):
one of the biggest Canada's companies, and he's crying on
the show talking about, you know, how he can't give
certain product away because it's illegal now, and how he
can't help cancer victim. I mean, there's a lot of
really good, you know, conversation that we have that people
need to know. And I think that, you know, it's
just um, it's it's it's a different type of podcast
because first off, I had no idea what I was doing,

(38:55):
but I jumped into it. You know, I was so scared,
you know, talking in front of the mike and didn't
know what I was doing and you know how I
was gonna sound. And but the thing about it is
I did it, and I think that people are going
to get a lot of good insight information that I'm
just a normal person just like them. You know, I
have the same kind of fears that they have. I'm
just living my life because I have this dream that

(39:17):
one day I'm gonna become somebody and discover myself and
people will follow that journey with me. Man, I want
to thank you for coming on my show. I appreciate you.
I really do, because you know, this is probably the
most honest show I've had, because you as you as
at the very beginning, you say, Man, I'm finding out
about you as we speak, and that was just you know,

(39:39):
which is really cool, you know, because of a lot
because a lot of things in life about what I've
accomplished I pushed aside and I just moved forward. Because
I'm not a guy who keeps looking at my success.
I want to know what the opportunity to present for
me and how I can change the future because I'm
about I'm about changing the future. And if you come
in town next week, man, please just drop me a call.
I set aside some time just to say hi, quick snack,

(40:01):
quick hug, because I want you to be a part
of my life. My brother, I really do, just as
a just as a person that that we'll make that
call to your day. How you doing, brother, Because I
have a phrase I'm telling everybody in this is my phrase,
lead with your gifts in that's my statement, that's my mantra.
And I'm telling everybody believe in yourself and leave you

(40:22):
with it. Don't let nobody question it, and you will
be successful if you have the work ethic in the plan.
I appreciate your brother, and uh, we're gonna talk soon.
But tell you people to contact my people so we
can hook up next week. Okay, thank you, Tie, thank
you for having me. I appreciate you. Man. Stay strong,
keep walking, man, More calories, more fun. Hi, this is

(40:43):
Rushan McDonald, the host of Money Making Conversation. You say
to yourself who calls Rushan Shell. Please welcome to Money
Making Conversations, Lonnie Love. You have to believe in yourself
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(41:05):
doesn't come overnight. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. Lynn,
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and she got spoiled because there were maids and things

(41:26):
to help take care of her a lot of times.
The baby in the family is like that. Money Making
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My next two guests our brothers on the very popular

(41:48):
TV series Black Ink Crew Chicago in its sixth season.
Don Brunfield, a piercer and manager of nine Mag in Chicago,
is focused on growing his acting career, but his wife
health scare may become a major distraction for him and
his family this season. His older brother for Brunfield at
Tattoo Artists at nine mag is making his mental health,
which is depression, a priority and using this platform to

(42:11):
spread the word about his experiences. He is also a
very very talented hip hop artist and he helps the
owner of nine Mag, Ryan deal with his personal struggles
along the way. This season, Black in Crewe Chicago airs
every Wednesday, eight Eastern seventh Central. Please welcome to money
Making Conversation. The brothers Done and four Brunfield. What's going on?

(42:33):
Pretty good? My friends? Pretty good? How's everything treating y'all?
Pretty good? Man at early morning and the good good, Well,
thank you. They tell me you're taping right now. You're
taping the show? Are you taping the show right now?
Or what's going on? We always work and we always work. Well.
I got, I got well, just that's for money making
conversations all about talking to busy people. Now done. I

(42:54):
got to meet you, uh in Philadelphia, was doing the
Q Harris Show. It was great meeting you. Your person
anality video, you know, tell us about yourself a little
bit so we can then Lenna over the four and
I just want to introduce the artists, the artists and
my my base, my podcast based by syndicated radio based
to eat you on your individual and we just started
talking about the show and your individual success stories that

(43:16):
you're creating away from the show. Don your first okay,
well you know, of course, don you know black and
creat Chicago man Mack also in them a well man
just uh you know a young man mill going to
raised in Chicago. Uh. It was a blessing to join
my fellow group of brothers and it's opportunity and UH
endeavor that comes to you know, being a part of

(43:38):
v H one, being a part of UH black can
creat Chicago on the brain and the team that we
created again you know, humble, humble, upbringings, say basketball my
whole locks in Chicago. Remember we're talking a little bit
UH in Philly. I was telling you about me attendant
Lake University. Absolutely see you out of Missouri. Yes, sir,
Well you know I'm gonna get you down for that.

(43:58):
Now you just do a block September two through HBCU.
We went went in Delaware already told him that we're
gonna get you down there, man, because you know that
whole HBC you think giving that Brandon, I really was
happy you told me your background because we want to
collect because you're an influencer and we got to have
influencers there who attract everybody. And let him understand that

(44:20):
HBC is a brand that has been underserved as far
as being recognized for what the efforts they are doing
in the corporate and everyday life community. So that was awesome,
brother comp completely Yeah. So you know, leaving that and
come home from that experience, UH to join my brothers
and this opportunity has been nothing but a blessing because
those lessons have, uh you know, while growing, have taught

(44:43):
me how to handle this opportunity. Uh to the fan
my career paths, you know, uh, you know two years
down the line from now. Absolutely when we get to
four at four, I just let you know, man, I
spent five years in Chicago. Is up there with Steve
Harvey executive do and co created this talk show up there.
So from twelve to I was up there. So I

(45:05):
know it's about the code up there. But you guys, yeah,
you guys, just let y'all know, we got a little
history together. So I was I've been up there, so
we speak to you. When you speak Chicago to me,
I know about Chicago. It's fifty degrees in June. Okay,
it's it's it's it can get crazy up there. So
for tell me about you hip hop background and everything
you're trying to strive for. A man, I really like

(45:27):
your the role that you play because it's not a
character as you. And so then we're gonna break down
some of the cast members. We can educate everybody because
you know, when I see Black Ink Crew Chicago commercials
running doing football games. That's a whole new game that's
playing out for your y'all, showing a whole new audience.
So I know some more additional blessings that happened because

(45:48):
of that additional exposure. But let's find out a little
bit more about about you for um you know, uh,
it's definitely um a blessing with the clasform that we
have been from the South side of the Kago, you know,
born and raised, um, you know, to to basically just
be a you know, integration for our city, you know,
and show you know, people that not from Chicago. You

(46:10):
know what I mean that it's not always as bad
as the same. There are good parts that are you know,
great people here as well. You know, you're just trying
to be role models to our people and people pretty
much people who can relate to our story. You know. Me,
I'm definitely a survivor from mental illness issues, you know,
so um, you know, having my brothers, you know what
I'm saying, uh, pretty much you know be there for me,
you know, play the big part. So I tried to

(46:32):
now just you know, spread the love and spread those
words to you know, help someone else through their journeys.
You know, whatever it is that they're going through. You know,
we lost a sister, you know what I'm saying to
you know, mental illness. So we just try to now,
you know, just be you know leaders, you know that,
and just motivate our people, you know, rather through the music,
but rather to look to see on tv UM just
to see our growth. We've been on this, uh like

(46:53):
in Cruce, Chicago now for six seasons. So you know,
now we're just trying to you know, keep our journey
going and just doing being the right way and you know,
show people how to be you know bosses instead of
you know, always works like we can do it. We're pwerful.
We got you know, the right mindset. You gotta you know,
you gotta you gotta do it. Well. It's really important.
It's really important that you guys are speaking this way
because these shows are you called reality series or documents,

(47:16):
they're really commercials. The platforms too, you know, grow your brain,
promote your brand if you have if you have a
product you want to say, you get it out on
the show and it's and you'd be remissed if you
don't do that. Now done, you want to get into acting,
I'm just let you know. You may not know my background,
but you know, you know sitcoms, Blockbuster movies. You might
want to you might want to google me. My brother

(47:36):
might want to google me. And so because uh, and so,
when I look at you as an active okay, when
you when you when you when I when I saw you,
first of all, you're you're good looking guy. Let's go
and put that out there. Okay, and but your and
your personality was really engaging. Okay, you articulate. So when
you when you look at your the structure of competition

(47:58):
out there, are you're gonna Okay, you should ago or
now they do have acting opportunities in Chicago, but you
know l A. A lot of people moved to Atlanta,
but really they should go to l A. When I
see the word acting trying to pursue that, what does
that mean? Because you know LA is where you gotta be. No,

(48:18):
l A completely completely the uh by ultimate goal. You
know we have my brother about leaving Chicago is on
the top of the list for opportunities. Hello, yeah, I'm
still here wait knowing your brother because I just know
that I just know that you know, when you're doing that,
you're taking the acting classes. What when you say acting
to pursuing it, just give us a little more audition

(48:38):
other than the roles that you're playing. Are the are
the are the series of Black Ink Chicago? What are
the things? When you say you're pursuing it, what do you?
What do you? What experiences are you? Are? You are
pursuing it? To grow that, to grow that end of
your business, because I know that four his hip hop career,
you got five albums, he's dropped, so he's in that lane,
he's he's he's rolling. So on the acting in where

(49:00):
you at? Oh, well, for me, of course, action classes
a must. I'm constantly trying to master that craft even
if I'm at home doing uh practice of myself self.
Take anything I can do to keep better in at
the craft. Right now, I'm participating in three or four
different on stage slaves. Uh. That's to constantly get comfortable

(49:20):
with being uncomfortable when you step in front of that
live crowd and the live audience and you have to
sell them the moment in the dream, basically believe in
the character. For me, that's a humble and experience as
an actor. I think transitioning from stage to on camera
that has made it easier for me to do or
on camera actor because there's nothing like being in front

(49:42):
of the live audience and uh, you don't get a
second take when there's a live crowd. So it pushes
me to really go home and study my line, study
my craft, study my character. Uh, and for me, it's
become fun, it's become a passion. Um. That's why I'm
always in the gym. That's where I'm am was on
top of my my constantly want to uh be able

(50:03):
to deliver my character and deliver this. Uh. You know,
my skill sets that the maximum ability. So for me,
it's just been constant reinforcement and hitting the pavement right now,
taking on each and every opportunity that's given to me.
Right now. That's really great. I'm talking to Don and
for Broomfield as b r U M F I E
L D there from the hit series Black in Chicago

(50:25):
that airs every Wednesday, eight eastern seventh Central on v
H one. Met Don up and up in Philadelphia. Great, great,
great gentlemen. You know, came in commanded the room. You know,
people are running up to them. Get this autograph. I
gotta self here with him too. Then my then my
pr person, Done messed it up. I could even post it. Man,
I gotta I gotta go, we gotta self. I can't

(50:47):
even post them next time I coming because I'm coming
to Chicago for the NBA All Star Games. So if
you guys around, which I'm sure you will be, let's
connect because I would love to sit down just talk
about because that's why I created money making conversation, to
to be able to sit down and listen the people
dreamed and then help. And I'm not asking for any
money when I when I said that God has given
me a many lands of success, many many lanes of success,

(51:08):
and many relationships. And all I try to do is
just point people in different directions. And I'm talking to
Done and for Broomfield. There were on this show in
the hit show, because I see it on NFL commercials
Now Black in Cruise, Chicago airs every Wednesday at eight eastern,
seven Central. You guys are influencers, and I would just
tell you something done when I met you, you know
you You's it's an aura that radiate from you that

(51:31):
I liked, that I that I gravitated to, you know,
And I've been around a lot of successful people and
I'm a successful person. You have it man, and and
four and meeting you for the first time and here
and how you talk, you got it too. So that
means that you two are influencers. It's continue that mantle
of influencing because I have I'm hosting the panel tonight

(51:51):
for big Brothers, Big Sisters. It's called real Men Who
Mentor and I'm hosting that tonight. I got my Borrico
leave Or Boy, Harry Douglas from the Atlanta, our cousins
and other people que Parker from one twelve. We all
get in there and eight hours a day for that's all.
We have to get one year. And I'm not engaging
you to do this. I'm just telling you what we

(52:11):
have to do as leaders. We have to commit our
time elsewhere and here you too talk dude. Y'all, y'all,
y'all some bad boys. Man, y'all awesome bad boys. I'm
just gonna let you all know that. Thank you, brother.
We're just trying to continue to grow. Um. Like you said,
you know us going to Camp Chicago has been a
journey in itself. Uh. You know, I like a lot

(52:35):
of youth today, they don't have opportunities we had getaways.
Conversations like this is a reminder of the things that
we do daily. Uh. You know, my brother is a
witness who I was working on at Turning to School
for six years, working with the youth of Chicago. Continue
to create constant programs to trying to continue to grow. UH.
So you know, this type of conversation will help us.

(52:58):
We have these kids at an earlier age avenue will
success UH and learning that every kid is not going
to be an athlete. Every kid is not gonna, you know,
exhale in school. So conversations like this, we'll teach our
kids about early entrepreneurship. Some of these kids are brilliant
to where they can come to that out of high
school on their own business. And these are type of
things I want to teach them that will help them

(53:19):
straight away from the street, like UH straad away from
the negative activities that they have to participate in just
to get back. UM. So the younger we could teach
them about UH leadership and entrepreneurship and being their own
leaders in bostics. I think that's just gonna what's going
to help turn to Podgora Land because every kid wants
to either be a rapper or athlete because they believe

(53:39):
like that's the way out. And I want to give
them the jewels and the tools to be successful way
earlier than what we were. It took us, we eventually
figured it out. But if I could give that to
a fifteen year old, a peaking year seventy years the
holts that I have now, I think that's gonna make
a way bigger impact, uh than a lot of other
things that we can do. This is awesome. Uh, first ball,

(54:00):
I didn't I don't talk about I know the cast
members because you guys are so engaging. You guys are
so special and know this. You can keep Rushan mcgonna
naming your roller text roller deck. So if you ever
need me to come up there, I come up on
my own dime. I paid for my whole hotel, I
pay for my own uber to come to your advantage
and support you. I'm just that way. I'm just that way.
It's a gift you gotta give to get, and to

(54:22):
get I'm getting a relationship. If I give the relationship right,
then we're gonna all win. Because all were trying to
do is provide opportunities. And I'm gonna just tell you
something else both done and four You're doing way bigger
things outside of Chicago. Okay, so it's a it's an
impact everywhere. That's when I met Don. I said, I
gotta have you in win with him. He said, I'll
be there. And guess what, This ain't the last time

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we're gonna talk. If y'all available during the NBA all
start weekend, let's get together, okay, because I'll be up
there in two weeks freezing though. I'll be ran the
right close. I lived in Chicago. I know I gotta dress.
I know what time of year gonna be. You gonna
have me up there looking cool and not warm. I'll
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