January 23, 2020 • 55 mins
Appearing on this episode of Money Making Conversations is Filmmaker Tyler Perry and co-stars of new Netflix movie, "A Fall From Grace," Phylicia Rashad, Bresha Webb and Crystal Fox; Darlene McCoy, Recording Artist, Songwriter, Actress, Nationally-syndicated Radio Host, Philanthropist; Carlos King, CEO of Kingdom Reign Entertainment, Executive Producer of “Love & Marriage Huntsville,” “Real Housewives of Atlanta,” “Hollywood Divas” and more; and Melody & Martell Holt, Producers and TV personalities (OWN’s hit series “Love and Marriage: Huntsville”), Entrepreneurs, Authors, Homebuilders and Developers.Each Money Making Conversations show hosted by Rushion McDonald is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. We provide the consumer and business owner access to Celebrities, CEOs, Entrepreneurs and Industry Decision Makers. They in turn deliver information about career planning, motivation, financial literacy and how they lead a balanced life.Don’t miss Money Making Conversations with host Rushion McDonald anytime through our iHeartRadio Podcast, which can be found under the Business/Finance Section, Fridays at 10AM ET on SiriusXM Channel 141: H.U.R. Voices and Fridays at 7PM ET on SiriusXM Channel 142: HBCU. We want to keep you Winning with your Career and your Life! #AskMMCThe Money Making Conversations radio talk show shares the “Secrets To Success” experienced firsthand by marketing and branding expert Rushion McDonald. Mr. McDonald is a brand guru and has been a marketer for major national and global brands like State Farm, Ford and Home Depot. He has worked with Kevin Hart, Stephen A. Smith, Jamie Foxx and most notably, Steve Harvey and will provide access to women and multicultural markets to expand the reach of your brand. The show features one-on-one career advice to callers, contributions from corporate leaders, successful entrepreneurs, celebrity interviews regarding their business ventures, social media branding, financial planning and information to empower small businesses to a path of success!“The Kind of Talk that Inspires Change.”https://www.facebook.com/MoneyMakingConversations/https://www.iheart.com/podcast/53-Money-Making-Conversations-28341098/https://open.spotify.com/show/3ABAQdTXqAnhGwxrsjFa5yhttps://www.rushionmcdonald.com/https://www.facebook.com/rushionmcdonald/https://twitter.com/RushionMcDonaldhttps://www.instagram.com/rushionmcdonald/https://www.linkedin.com/in/rushionmcdonaldhttps://am920theanswer.com/radioshow/7908
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
has the secrets of success experience firsthand by Marketing and
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my man, Rashan McDonald money making conversations. Here we come.
Come on now. There's a new movie streaming right now
on Netflix. It's Tyler Parris, my man A Fall from Grace.
Here's the storyline. Because I went down to Houston to
see this movie. So let me let me just reel
you guys on it. I was treated very special, very
very special. When I went to South they screening the
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characters Grace Waters. His storyline. Grace Waters played by Crystal Fox,
a longtime pillar of her Virginia community. Stay's composed when
that X where's his mistress? Who she called? Having sex?
And her son moves away adults, so we're convincing from
her best friend Sarah played by Felicia Rashard. She tries
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putting herself first, It's all about me now, and a
handsome stranger McKay Brooks becomes a surprised second love and
he's very very sexy, by the way, very very sexy.
Yet any woman can snap, and Grace's new husband soon
ravages her life, her work, and many say drove her
crazy or near sanity made her, made her, made her
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sanity was tested on that point. That's what love can do.
What love got to do? You'll find out in this movie.
Shut It in a sale awaiting trial for his murder race.
His only hope for vindication lives with Jasmine. The attractive
Jasmine Ryan played by the attractive appreciate Well who don't
know nothing, a public defender who always pleads her case,
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but for some reason, she wants to take this case
the court, which drives Tyler Parish character crazy. The movie
also co stars Oscar nominee Sincily Tyson and writer director
Tyler Parrott. A far from Grace, It's a mesmerizing thriller
built from unthinkable secret. Here's my tape because I was
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in Houston. That's my hometown. Everybody know him from fifth
for Tyler Perry storytelling had me all messed up in
a good way. Here's the money making conversation, interview you've
all been waiting for. Here's the money making conversation I
went down to Houston to get because my man, Tyler
Perry is worth the airline ticket. Please, Tyler Perry, please,
Felicia shar please, Crystal Fox and Brenchia Web money making Conversation.
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The interview of a lifetime Okay, cool, great, thank you
for having there. Tyler. I'm afraid of police. I'm afraid
of Crystal Fox. They are okay. I'm not giving away
too much because it's a beautiful movie. You stuck your
foot in this movie. You stuck you know, like the
old people say, just some food and if you stuck
your foot in it. Acting directing in the beginning of
the movie, I thought you were just gonna be a
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cameo roll in there, but you played on like I'm
mentoring it and I want to give you too much,
but it felt like with a mentorship type. You know,
you was get your job done, get your job done
type character. Because your character is a public defender. Tell
me about that for a few minutes. I feel like
when I was reading the script, it was just all
there on the page. And Jasmine being a public defender,
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she wanted to give her all, but she was defeated already.
Um and of course Rory being the pass that he
is making easy gette and so she had to find
that in her strength and herself. And so it was
a joy to play. Absolutely. The thing I want to
say about Joe character because of the fact that you know,
I've seen you on have and have not, and this
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this was a contension. And Tyler was really interesting because
he pushed some of these characters in areas I didn't expect.
So tell me about that. That level of expectation that
he pushed you too in your role, Now that's the
beauty of it. Tyler gave me the script and he
lets me go for and if he's trying to say
or always allows for me to bring what I believe
is in that right. That's what's so awesome about. When
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he offers you something, you know he sees that, so
you come in and you just delve in and if
he believes it, he just lets you sell. Grace. Miss
Sarah played by I gotta say Miss for that character.
That was I know who you are. Television world has
laid it out to you can't go too far with
this character. But talk about preparation for that character, talk
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about the lens that you went to extend what he
wanted from that character for this particular movie, A Fall
from Grace. Yes, she well. What was important for this
character was to be true in every moment, every single moment,
whatever that moment was was real. She was real in
every moment. But you were misleading it at times. As
far as the relationship. That's that's beside the points now
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you were in the case say too much because in
the beginning of your character, your character plays out of
this person. You know, everybody felt that you can I
say this like a joke. You've been a lawyer, was
a joke and and then nobody respected you so that
that means they gave you an arc in the movie.
And how did that feel for you? I mean, well,
being looked at usually as a comedic actress, you don't
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really get to play and I love that you You
don't usually get to play a multi layer character in
that way that you can show the various sides of
a woman and how she is trying to balance her
her personal life and her work life and being defeated
when she comes home from work. So, like I said,
everything was on the page, and Tyler just gave us
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free will to go in and really developed these characters
in an honest way, But no character. I know they're saying,
you've given them free wid they gave you. You You gave
a free will the developed the character. But you have
you know what you wrote and let your comedic. You know,
first Lady TV, you know haven't happened all these characters
that I've seen shifted in disrections from their career that
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they led up to that point. But you cast some
these rules. Why no? I just first of all, Crystal
had not had a shot to be a leading role
or leading in a leading role, a leading lady, and
I thought it's high time forty years in the business,
and I was so excited to do that for her graduation.
Cast Brisa against type not commonly cast her in the
dramatically and acrimony. She did a couple small roles that
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were amazing. And then I add Sinceily Tyson and Miss
Felicia's shot to round out this level of talent. It
was just it was incredible for me. Well, I'm gonna
tell you something. I laughed. I was mad. People nextually
hitting me. You know, we go to a black movie
when they started getting Yeah, it's a good shot. People
still up in the end, Tyler, you did, you did? Really?
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You know? You know you have a fan. You know
now your Netflix tell us about that journey for your brain. Well,
I I filmed this movie. It wasn't originally with Netflix.
I just filmed it and I was gonna just shop
it and see where it was gonna land. But they
came right away. Yeah, They're like, come on, we got
we gotta have it. And I gotta tell you, it's
been the most diverse a group of people I've ever
worked with this so anything I've done in the Hollywood.
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So I'm really excited about working you know. I know now,
you know they they take some of these movies to
theaters and they put them back on and I'm gonna
tell you some some nominations to do for some of
these characters in this movie. I was very impressed with
the whole process and watching you build out this whole
concept of allowing you to make looking at your character
grace looking joke your character Jasmine, your character Miss Sarah,
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and bled and I was confused. You know, I'm a writer,
probably writing television a long time, and when you can
take a guy like me and I'm going kind of
frustrated in a good way because I don't know what
the script is going, but when it goes in their
lands and lands in such a powerful direction as a
testament not only that to you as a director and
the writer, but the characters you allowed to put on three.
But I'd be remissed because he's not here. Yes, Mr Brooks,
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Mr Brooks, we have to talk about him. He was sexy, Yeah,
he was. He hasn't mccauth Brooks as a human being
has an energy about him that is just what can
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I say? It's quiet and still and it's solid. It's
She's just like that a man. Yes, he did for
that reason alone, that the very presence of who he
is and then his nuances and the way he can
pay the pictures and actors, and the reason that's another
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role that came from Supergirl to being portrayed this character
because I didn't know where that characters are gonna go either.
You see the trailer, but it believe you trailer is
only an invite to a great movie, a great project.
I want to thank everybody. I hope the nominations come
you away. They're deserving or not only the picture, but
the characters you guys played in this movie. A Far
From Grace is a must see. Thank you guys for
taking the time. I'm trying to get you guys individually
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on my podcast because I was going to promote this brother,
you know me, appreciate your That's it, y'all. A Fall
from Grace, Storry, Tyler, Perry Alusi, Shan, Christopher Fox and
Preci Well. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald, the host of
Money Making Conversation. You say to yourself, who calls Rushan Shell,
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Phil your daughter Charity is a hot mess on Green Lease.
Well she is, she is. She's just trying to find
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Making Conversations continues online at www dot money Making Conversations
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and Instagram. Uh time for the intro. She's his studio.
Did we take make sure we'd get a picture, you know,
one of one of candid pictures? Did you get hey, man,
(10:24):
what a y'all doing? Man? Or you can't get anybody?
I don't know if you're taking pictures you know? Over
there Will is, We'll see. It's probably with my teacher.
My next guest was introduced to the world. It's perfect
(10:47):
because Tyler Perry is on this show as well. Oh,
absolutely good stuff. This is a great intro. Introduced into
the world as a national recorded artist on the soundtrack
to Tyler Perry's first movie, Diary of a Mad Black Woman.
She's a comedian and it's written and co produced a
project with Ricky Smile. That's my boy gran Brother appeared
in Las Vegas as the Flamingo on George Wallace's stage.
(11:09):
That's my boar just look crazy coming into Town teamed
up with George Wallace and Janathan Brown another food on
a show called Two Devils in an Angel. She's the
first African American woman to be syndicated on a nighttime
gospel radio show six million listeners and just heard in
forty six radio one cities. I'm tired just reading about
(11:30):
all of this and talking about all this. Please working
the money making conversation, my girl, Darline McCoy, in the
world are you doing route? We hadn't saw judging a while.
You know, you always coming for made a big old
spread for your calls. There they were. They ate it
all up, every bit of it. But let's talk about
you have an event coming up here. Yes, I do
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tell us about this event. So it's called well, it's
as City Winery Atlanta City City with City Atlanta and
Atlanta because of course you know they're national, but in
Atlanta it's um called Jesus wasn't Collectic Decades, which isn't
actually the name of my EP. So we're performing it live.
You're performing it live, so it's just gonna be you
on the show. No. I actually am introducing my son, Chap,
(12:16):
who is a hip hop he's a conscious hip hop
artist and an R and B artist Alvin. Yeah, well
but let's let's church more but still yes, that really conscious. Yeah,
he's he's like a rap in Martin Luther, maybe a
(12:37):
gospel of Travis Scott. Let's make let's make students say
yeah but not like that. But yes, yes, we're introducing him.
But um, but I'm gonna take everybody on a on
a journey through the decades from the seventies and eighties
and nineties and with your favorite music, you know, seventies
gospel music, then my music confused and then seventies R
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and B. Okay, cool. This is January twenty nine, twenty
nine of January. On the twenty I am in town. Okay,
I'm doing I'm hosting it in for the Big Brothers,
Big Sisters, Real Man mentoring a boar room Recoly. You'll
be there at Q. Parker will be there, Harry Douglas
would be there, and we'll be doing it at the
gathering spot and so on the twenty nine, which is
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the very next day. Um, being that you and my girl,
I would love to introduce you. What yes, listen to this,
did y'all hear that? Okay? So you want to introduce me.
Thank you, Yes, I would, thank you so much, thank you,
thank you, well, you know you that's happening. I've introduced
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a lot. Yes you have, Yes, you have a whole lot.
And I'm sitting up here like for real. Yes, So
I will be there not only to enjoy the show
you here, your son, but I will make sure that
make sure we get some batters. I promote it as well.
I can get it all my social latory. But I
know what Rashan. People know are rarely going on stage
(14:00):
these days, right, but I'm so glad. Yeah, so you
can tell everybody Rashan McDonald will be introducing you the
winery in Atlanta. Thank you so much. You know, I've
always I am and always have been a fan, you know.
And when I would land in Houston, me have to
turn on the radio because you your your skills, it's
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it's so natural. And your your your ability to uh,
your relatable talent. That's what I always felt, your relatable talent.
And just so you know, so I was going through
preparing for my show and everything and that was just
moren that wrote. I wrote on everything I had to do,
my staff, and I emailed it out and I said,
I said, have I missing anything? And then Samanthe came
in that you know, always telling what I'm missing. She's executive,
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Samanthe's executive use of the show. And so she telling me,
you missed this, missed this, and then she had she
saw the NBA All Star Game in Chicago. Teach, do
you need anybody to go with you? I know? Said,
I don't need nobody. Okay, what I do need is
the free She said, come on the show today and
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I'm gonna talk to my girl and see if she
will allow me. Absolutely, are you kidding me? I am honored,
thank you, thank you so much. Where I'm honored, and
it's gonna be fun. And now we're gonna we're gonna
we're gonna do our best to make sure people are
turned away. Yeah, get the word out about it. But
what time in showtime? Showtime is eight o'clock. But the
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doors open it six people come in and get their
their wine and their food. And I've never been there.
How food, it's food, it's you can you can have dinner,
and you can your wine. And if you don't drink wine,
have water whatever you want to. But um, but you
can come and enjoy and have a nice dinner and
then be ready for the show. Okay, cool, okay, cool.
(15:50):
Sounds like a supper club, yeah, which is which I
perform as a comedian many years ago. Really that for man,
I didn't like people eat. What I was trying to
tell jokes. You can sing and people can eat, right,
because you can dig and dig and groove and roll
in the gym, but you might choke somebody if they
then you know, you know, you know what I'm saying.
You gotta laugh, come, you gotta get feed verbal feedback.
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Then this is working right, all this rolling side the
side pointing at me on stage, All right, we're not
working with that. So so how long is this this
show being on the books? Actually? Um, we it in December.
We got a call and um and they were just like,
you know, and that's so. I mean, it was a
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blessing because a friend of mine was like, don't you
don't you have an EP dropping? I said yes. She says,
don't you want to play the cynic riding me? I'm like,
of course, So you know, she says, okay, let me
call you back. And then the young lady from the
city winery said could you do it on the twenty nine.
I'm like, yes, Wow, that's not absolutely I can and
we are not will. So we are so excited about it.
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My band is is excited. We're gonna perform probably for
if minutes to an hour, but we're gonna take you
through the decades everybody's I just pray that everyone has
a good time. Well they will, they will, Like My
whole thing is that you know already you know I'm
thinking about I'm gonna woke out there. You know this thing.
I gotta I gotta build a hype, right because it's
all about the intro. I'm gonna need that comedian. It's
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all about it's all about the intro. But the thing
that I fell in love and found you was on
radio okay, and I was on your syndicated show. So
tell us about that journey of of you know, we're
gonna get to the comedians later, but but the journey
of what you're doing now it's an entrepreneur as as
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a female and in the male dominated business, all businesses
for some reason dominated by men, even even women fashion,
they're making it okay, So so tell us about that
because there's something you're doing is very unique. That's why
we have to we have to put it out there
talk about Well. The thing of it is is UM
having this platform, I feel like I have to be
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responsible with it. UM. It's one thing to have the
platform because you know, people love you as a radio host,
that's one thing. But even with that, because they do,
I want to take advantage of this opportunity to bring
my friends along and help me, you know, reach back
into our communities. UM. Through the platform. I have something
called mobs and I know that you've been a part
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of that as well. UM. We do something annually called
UM Celebrities Cooking for Calls, and I reach out to
my celebrity friends like Rushan McDonald's SPECIALI and he came
through looking especially over holidays but I hated making But anyway, UM, UM,
I reach out to them and ask them to you know,
prepare their favorite meal and their favorite dish so that
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we can go and feed, UM those that are less
fortunate and wrap our arms around them and love on
them and UM you know, give them gifts and and whatnot.
So that's that's one of the things that I do, UM.
But everywhere that I have an opportunity to speak to mothers. Um,
I take the opportunity to do that. Us I am
a mother of three, but they've grown now because then
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I got two grandkids. But um, one thing that I
did not have a lot of I have my mother,
but I was not in the same city with my mother,
and I needed guidance, support, directions, someone in the point
me in the right direction, sometimes just right. That was
with an arm's reach. And I think that makes the
difference when you're raising children. Um. Sometimes you know, parents
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go through things where the father and the mother are
not you know, on good terms. But how do you
how do you make that work anyway? You know, you
still have to make it work for the children. So
everywhere that I can speak to young ladies and mothers,
I take the opportunity to do that. We all know
that you could say black white, you can say green yellow.
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People will hear what they want to hear exactly. And sometimes,
you know, as much as you try to bring clarity
to the situation, people can shape it to the direction
they want to tell the story that's right, you know,
and and it's really sad. So with that being said,
you in that gospel world, those church living the life
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of perfection. Come on, tell him nothing, Come on, because
they all socially right right, law have mercy. God is good.
How do you deal with that? Girl? God is good
for that thing? Right man? Man? Listen, who do you
know what you're talking to? Right right? What is a
church person? Listen that? What is the church person? What
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is there? There are several and you know you have
to understand, you know, I get excited about this part,
but actually, you know, I was raised in church, you know,
and so I know church like the back of my hand.
And then I run into some people that are not
living a truth. You are living, you are comfortably living
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a lie, and then you're covering yourself up with God
is good all the time. Well, yes that is true,
but are you the truth? Right? You see what I mean?
So yeah, that's it, just through Well you know the
thing about I'm not trying to push too much information out,
but I just know that I remember several years ago,
Steve Harvey and uh Kurt Franklin did a tour together.
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So I have first hand awareness that Brandon and marketing
that's in particular market because that was my responsibility. Yeah,
these dates sold out. He did it too, had a
comedian who was known for cussing, and I had Kurt Franklin,
who was all gospel, come against what teenagers and kids
could come to his show. So immediately when I put
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the tickets over, say I said eighteen and oh lord,
I didn't know because I'm just selling ticket. Get the
call from Kurt Preople, huh chickens, Uh eighteen and up?
We have kids and teenagers and BRENI we gotta change that,
and that said, Okay, what I'm gonna do, Kurt? Okay,
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can they not sit on the front brow? I said, Kenny,
can they just can they be on the third or fourth?
Because I know that Steve Harvey came. He's probably doing
that because he's family, a few kids. He's family a
few kids, he's straight family not but back just kind
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of did that video for Bishop TV Jakes. Okay, you
know that was the first time he did the show
with our cousins, so he wasn't all the way that
and so so I understood that when I when I
was trying to figure out at first I started marketing
on you know, gospel stations, then well, you know that's
my market wasn't selling no tickets because then I realized that, Okay,
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who are church people? Then I started going back to
the R and B stations. Okay station, My tickets started moving.
So that's why I have to ask the question who
are church people? Because when I was over there on
the church gospel station wasn't selling no tickets. When I
was when my e blasts were going out to the
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all Gospel citric, what's selling no ticket? As soon as
I went over there too, what they were called centers,
I started selling tickets. That's what I'm talking about. So
so that's why I asked that question, not to be
you know, condescendant, because I don't know who they are.
All I know is that they listen to Agree. They
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listened to the Pendographs, they listen to Scott, they the Kim,
they listen to Anthony Hamlets. Okay, if they listen to Keith,
that's all I'm saying. I'm listen. I'm going through kind
of the same thing because City Winery is a winery
and they're saying, well, the gospel people are not going
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to buy those tickets, and I'm like, oh, yes, they will, absolutely,
absolutely absolutely. It's really funny. See now, if you own
a gospel station talking about it. Then anything they go,
I can't come or just take that same interview to
R and B station and the same person the same
person here, girl, I'm gonna get those tick. Then he's
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not telling the life. That's that's the same part about
And that's that's what leads to my question that you
have my statement that you have breaking the stigma or
what church looks like. Talk to me about that. I
just believe that a lot of times, you know, what
we've done in the past with the church, and then
you know, promoting Christ and promoting God, we've made it
seem like he's so delicate that he can't take the
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truth about who we are. That's why I love by
Kirk Franklin. Kris Franklin is a guy who's you know,
you know, you know. It's um, it's really interesting that
you say that because he's so honest in a brutal way,
and people go, Okay, why is he talking like that?
Because in the end, you should be able to be
yourself as a child of God. Come on, yeah, because
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God made us. I mean, it's like I am equipped
with everything God gave me. Why can't I be as individuals?
As individuals? That's exactly right, and each individual has equipment
and our purpose and a plan. And too many people
have talking on this show conversation, we're talking, We're talking. Okay,
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thank you, That's what I'm saying. But but you know,
we as individuals, like I said, we have, we have,
we are show come on Sundays too, doesn't really? Yes?
Oh yeah, so you can talk like this, yes, good, good,
good good, because you know, just as I was, I
was just saying, you know, we have we are who
we are and God made us who we are. Right,
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but if we can't be authentic, what is the reason
that we are waking up every day? And so that's
what that's exactly right. We want real people. We want
real people that that have a real story and then
have something to say. No, I'm not perfect, that I'm
probably will never be perfect, and I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna be so arrogant to even try to be perfect.
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Just be me. So you have a syndicated night and show.
What does that show? What does it produce? Shows? Syndicated
warning shows? So I know I have a system. You
start the phone calls and you have some jokes head,
you have entertainment news, what is what just the lineup
of your show? The lineup of my show, Well, I'm
I'm on at night, um, from seven to eleven pm.
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So my thought is, I'm I'm catching people who are
coming home from work and have had probably a hard
day and that want to talk. So I have, you know,
a chat room topic, so we could just talk about
absolutely anything, you know. But but my purpose for my
show is to uplift you know, before people go to
bed at night, just get everything off your mind that
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will happen during the day and at night. Let's have
a little inspiration. Let's have some fun entertainment, laugh and
just kind of clear the atmosphere so that you can
sleep well. Now January, we're gonna have we will have
some inspiration at the Atlanta City Winery. That's right, um,
your show. The name of the EP is what Jesus
(26:52):
was Eclectic? And who all will be on the lineup?
It will be Alvin Garrett R and B. Singer hip
hop artist, my son the champ Um. Also Leon Timbo
is coming. Let me tell you something. He's he's amazing.
But then of course it will be me and my
band or did she forget somebody? And introducing hold on,
(27:15):
Wait a minute, hold on, I thought you were talking
about performing. But hold on one second. Let me just
bet you already said that you hope that the comedian
walks on the stage to introduce you have to you
already comedian Mr Money Making Conversations himself Rashan McDonald will
(27:35):
be introducing difficulty doing that, help Mom? Okay, money making
a conversation slash comedian slash that's we gotta make sure
that's all. Yeah, they get it because you know you
sold Multitalent my next guest. Production company, Kingdom Rain Entertainment LLC,
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is recognized as one of the leading entertainment companies in television.
His credits conclude executive producer, Love and Marriage Huntville on
the Own Network, Styling Hollywood, Netflix, The Real Housewives of Atlanta, Bravo,
Hollywood Divas, TV one, The Next Fifteen, and Guccia Main
and Keisha The Main Event on b ET. Please welcome
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to Money Making Conversation. They've said, let Freedom Rain. Let's
let Kingdom Rain, my man, Carlos king my man. For
first of all, you know you're doing great things and
uh in television because you know, it's just been a
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journey in the reality world of respect, you know, and
I and I just tell you share my personal story.
When I was producing and UH and creating the Neighborhood
Awards with Steve, Steve Harvey was hosting, it was a
pure where you know, there were no African Americans and
dramas and or North African American show which that at
sitcom talent and all the talent was coming from the
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reality TV world. And it was a period when reality
TV was fighting and throwing and cussing and fussing and
it was just ugly out there. And so it's really
putting a black eye on what do do black people
act like this? And I've seen that and I feel
there has been Now we see sitcoms with African Americans
on it, we see dramas would lead African Americans, and
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I feel that that has helped UH stylized and help
the world of reality TV to be more accepted and
also shape better stories. Am I correcting another assessment? No,
you absolutely are. I think, um listen when it comes
to reality TV. The reason why I started my company,
Kingdom Rain Entertainment, is because I wanted to change the
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landscape of how African Americans are beat on television. So
know your assessment is right in terms of uh has
been stored up the attention that's we're given to in
the past, and my hope is to redirect that in
the future. Well, you're doing a good job, first of all,
because you know, you know, and I would tell you
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like I can have honest conversations and that, and I
really believe that the stories are being told better because
African Americans are actually producing these shows with African American
needs and African American content and they're not stories that
we assumed that's how they should act. Well, let's just
make believe this particular scenario and that I believe really helps.
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And so when I you said, Rashan, you're excited to
have me on the show, Yes, I am, because you
are telling the story that is accurate. We all know
it's entertainment. Don't get me wrong, callers, that's entertainment. We
got to have the ratings. Heither, right, But guess what
there is credibility and how the stories being told now
because you understand the culture. Yeah, no, that's true, that's true.
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And I would think other reason too, because again, prior
to me starting the company, I was a hired freelance
producer who had to produce these shows and did not
really have a stay in the beginning, middle, and end
of how these stories were being told. And the biggest
theme that I wanted to give people work credibility and
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to show that there is an audience out there where people,
especially African Americans, they want to see people who look
like them on television, but they also want to make
sure that it's really something that's happening in the real lives.
And when you look at Love and Marriage Hunt Bill
on the Oprah Whimpering Network and the show to Me
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is doing well, um solely because you have three couples
who I think represent a large part of black family households.
Whether or not you disagree with them or agree with them,
you know somebody who sort of represents that that lifestyle.
So the show has been a huge hit for own
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because these African American couples who are successful, but they
also are giving you insight into what happened in their
households to hopefully shed light on what happens in households
across America. And the success of that show, to me,
shows the reason why I wanted to begin the company
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and I'm hoping that I continue to have people tune
into the shows we're creating over here. That really speaks
to that attention. Well, I'm gonna tell you something. I
know when I left IBM, I was a degree as
mathematics and left IBM to do stand up comic because
I traveled all over the country telling jokes. And what
people don't know is, uh, how modern the city of
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Huntsville is. It's one of the It's like a silicon
vast technology. Why that's where NASA started. NASA started in
hunted exactly, and a lot of people don't understand that.
So I remember. So, if you any any popular chain
in America, food Changing, it is in Huntsville, Alabama, and
and so and so I know, I usually love going
there because you know, great comedy and close are people
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you know, well, very knowledgeable and you don't do crazy
things to get people to laugh. And so so you
picked the city that, as one would say, you know,
it's like with a high uh intellectual and cultural platform
in Huntsville, Alabama, And a lot of people didn't know that.
And I think that you're telling the story and opening
people's eyes to Huntsville. Yeah, no, that was you know what,
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that was the biggest goal. When Melody and Mark Home
met with me, you know, they they drove from Huntsville
to Atlanta. I was living there at the time. This
is maybe five years ago, and they pitched me the
idea of doing something in Huntsville. And just to be
completely transparent, I'm like, who's in the hunstand all about?
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You know what? I mean? More curious about the city
than anything else. And I you that Melito and Martell
has something interesting to tell the world, But I was
really interested in the city as a whole. And you
are right. It's such a city that has so many
affluent black people who thrived there and they're super smart.
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We met with a rocket scientist, you know, this black
man who's a rocket scientists think you hear, you hear
about what you've never really seen. So it's such a smart,
savvy town. And I think a lot of people watch
the show and they're like, Wow, they're smart, successful black
people who live in Huntsville, Alabama. And to me is
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putting the city on the map, and it's allowing the
city to really be shown in a light that you know,
when people think of the South, they think, oh, they're
uneducated and the sect off the shows providing something different
means the world to me. Yeah, it's really cool. Like
like I I very when I when I realized it
was coming on, I tuned in because now and because
if you know, I've had a blessed life to be
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able to articulate something by Huntsville, Alabama to you and
be able to be on dead own spot means that
I've I've experienced that culture and I was so my
life has allowed me to experience a lot of different paths.
And the fact that you know, this is not Birmingham,
this is not Montgomery, this is Huntsville. Totally different cons city,
totally different set up, totally different lifestyle. And it also
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is who doesn't have it, Who doesn't do a country cousin? Okay, right,
we don't have you know, you know, because everybody got
to cut your cousin in the South. Okay, everybody in
the North came from the South. So so you wouldn't
everybody from l a move from Alabama or Mississippi or Arkansas.
So yeah, so so you weren't out of your comfort zone.
You actually bringing people back to their roots. Oh absolutely, absolutely,
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And and looking I'm from right, come on, getting comfortable now,
he getting comfortable. Now, it's all just got caught. Yeah,
let's let's do it. No, I'm from the Tree and
I grew up in the whole era of black excellence
and you know, growing up when my motor City was
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really thriving in the Motown sound and all that amazing stuff.
So again, it's all about giving back to your community
in some in some way, and with Huntsville, that was
one part of it. But it's what you said it again.
I think the show is successful because you look at
these African American people and they remind you of family,
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They remind you of home. And my hope is that
that is an eye opener as even for me and
my team to really start putting more of these other
I'm not gonna say forgotten towns, but more so a
town that a lot of people just aren't familiar with.
So even the way we're creating shows, Rishan, we're really
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taffricking to markets where it's the typical Atlanta, Miami and
late New York. Like, we're going down to the south
just to really see what is there. Because I think
the way television is is working a lot of people,
you know, they're bored easily with the same city you
see across television. But to tap into those towns where
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you've heard about the city but you don't really know
about it, Um, that excites me to really put more
of these cities on about So now you've got you've
got Freedom Rain out there, Kingdom Rain is backing it up,
backing it up. And I, uh, when you when you
put together these casts, uh, and you put put together
the shows, what show do you feel over the years
that you that you you know, I know we talked
(37:35):
about Housewives of Atlanta they really touched you? Or just
just say, hey, man, really I learned so much from
being a part of that show. And you know I
always have friends from that show. What show may have
touched you like that over the years that I produced
somebody own owns? Oh good question. Um, I'll say this much.
(37:56):
I think since Hollywood Divas the first show that my
company was able to produce TV one, Yeah, thank you
back in twenty four team, I would say that show
will always mean the most to me. It's like it's
like I'm not a parent, but I'm gonna assume all
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parents feel this way about their first born, like there's
nothing like your first born. Like you love you, you
love all your kids equally, but that that feeling and
that experience of your firstborn means the most. It's because
it's the first. We don't look at it interest You
say that. It's interesting, you say that because I want
I want to share a story, which I know we're
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running a time. I want to get this in. And
it's very propositive what you're saying, because when you go
out there and you do something for the first time,
what's your production company? I remember when I was did
the Neighborhood Awards and I actually produced it for the
first time myself, and you know, I was you know,
people asked me and I told him, yeah, even though
I didn't know what, I still moved forward with confidence
(39:00):
because I felt I was ready. I felt that I've
seen it all enough to be able to confidably go
out there and know that that camera goes there, that
stage and goes there, that like you goes there, that
has to happen right there. And and I actually when
when when when I actually was rehearsal, I was I
was brought to tears because I realized that there's how
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much work you have to put in, and how many
naysayers stepping between your stepping between your opportunities. And even
the people that you care about, you really can't turn
to them because they don't even know what you're talking about.
So the support that they can offer to you, it's nice,
but it ain't enough. And and you got to walk
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out there. I always tell people this, and joking, I
always say, if you are if you are in the
military and you're telling them you're the captain and you're
telling somebody to charge up a hill, you can't have
tears in your eyes because the reality is is that
you have to be straight. You have to be strong,
You have to at the top of your game, even
(40:02):
even if everybody around you questions you. That means you
have to do your homework. And my friend, I say
that in a very complimentary manner, sharing a very personal
part of my life. Seeing what you are doing and
seeing what you are accomplishing. I'm proud of your callers,
thank you for doing my show. And uh and UH
always know if you have a banner or sizzle reel
(40:25):
that you want to promote, a premier or a big
moment of closure, and then the guests you want to
bring on my show. You have a home here, call
us because of the fact that you're changing television. Man,
don't change, and the revenue is coming, my man, the
revenue is coming. Kingdom Rain. Y'all, Kingdom Rain. Thank you callers,
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appreciate your brother. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald, the host
of Money Making Conversation. You say to yourself who calls
Rushan Shell. Please welcome to money Making Conversations, Lonny Love.
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on the phone. Educators turned entrepreneurs are the epitome of
the turn power couple. The dynamic dual started business business
together in the early twenties and with the three years
grew into a million dollar business and only and only
two years later, a multimillion dollar business. Their owners of
Hope and Hope Entrepreneurship. They are also owners of Hope
(42:13):
Custom Homes. They're working. They are working real estate in
the thriving city of Huntsville, Alabama. I've been in Huntsville, Alabama,
so I'm not I'm not joking around when that's used
the term thriving city of Huntsville, Alabama. Please welcome to
money Making Conversation because they are the stars of their
own series, are featured on their own series. Just in
case somebody gets upset when I used the word stars,
(42:36):
love and marriage Huntsville, Please welcome to money Making Conversation.
Melody Melody and Martel Hote. Hello, Hi, Hello, Hello Bear. Well,
first of all, well we'll take that, we'll take that on.
You know you got to because guess this by Brandon
and Marketing and guess what I read your bio. You
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guys truly understand that you're not afraid to step out
and and and and and go take your your your
careers and opportunities down to different lane. And that's really important.
So well, thank you so much for that. We appreciate that,
and thank you for having us on your show today. Well,
first of all, it is thankful for me because you know,
when you build a brand and you get out there
(43:18):
and it has to have some relevances and people. Easy
to do with Sean McDonald's show, Money Making Conversation Show,
because when I started the platform three years ago, you know,
I had my celebrity friends call in and and I
didn't know even though why I was talking to him,
you know, just they were calling in and hey, ro Sean,
and after hay very Seawan, it went, okay, what we're
gonna talk about. So I had to develop a point
of view. And my point of view is to bring
(43:40):
talented individuals. You guys, not only are you know celebrities
from a from a TV standpoint, but your celebrities in
the entrepreneurship the world, and that's where I that's where
I live in entrepreneurship as well as entertainment, and so
I wanted to bring you on the show. Both of
you because it's a power couple. I love bringing power
couples on the show because it's really about communication and
(44:00):
it's about bellon it because you bring your work home
and you take your work away from home, and you
need to have to learn when to stop working. And
so I wanted to start off because I had Carlos King.
He was on the show yesterday. He's the creator executive
Carlos King. Now, come on now, he was, and I
told him that I was going to be interviewing you
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guys and he said, wow, he said, they tell us
how you guys created how that I was the relationship
that you guys have to start out with Carlos King. Well,
you know, it's so just very interesting and amazing because
we actually met Carlos King five years ago and when
we sat down and met with him, it was for
(44:42):
a consultation to pitch this show idea that we had
that was really based off of us, our family and
our business and interest in this industry called the property
preservation industry, which is a multibillion dollar industry. Right, So
we met with him pay star, oh show them our treatment,
and he loved, you know, he loved the idea. He said,
(45:04):
you know, you guys look like you would be great
on TV. But to be honest, the first thing you
said was, you know, what do you say? Right He said,
you guys want to be on Real Housewives of Atlanta
and right now was like, uh, now, I want to
keep my wife. At that time, yeah, yeah, So that's
kind of was a lot of breakups and stuff relationship
if you're going on and on housewives, and was like,
(45:26):
I want to keep my wife. So when we met
with him, and then over the years, we just continue
to reach out to Carlos, continuing to fill Huntsville, to
sell the whole brand, showing him what's happening in Huntsville,
what's happening with our family dynamic, and you know, we
just you know, we really pushed the idea and it
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doesn't happen overnight all the time. You know, now we
have a show on the Oprah Winfrey Network and we're
so thankful and excited about that and you know, just
thankful for that opportunity. But it took a long time
us saying in contact and pushing what we thought would
be a great idea. And then we speak about pushing,
you know, we hired our own staff to you know,
record us and things of that nature supposed to do
(46:10):
like sizles and things like that. So it was it
was it was work. It was work. Um. So like
Melody mentioned, doesn't happen overnight, So we really have to
put work in to accomplish the goal. When the goal
was to get a show, and we got it, fortunition
accomplished and on to the next name. Absolutely the cool
thing aboudy go okay, Huntsville, Alabama, the birthplace of Alabama, uh,
(46:31):
population with about two thousand population. But then you start
digging into Alabama high tech. You know, the legacy of
the space programs out of Alabama Huntsville about a lot
of people don't know that reason I know that was
that when I left IBM and U six to become
a comic on the road, I used to come through
it Huntsville, Alabama to perform. So when I walked when
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I went into that market, you know, it's it's is
totally different from any of the city in Alabama because
of that high tech. And I totally agree. And if
you have we have the number two research park um
in the country, huh and the largest research in the country.
And I'm sure that you know when when you when
you came to call us calls just like anybody else. Huntsville, Alabram,
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what's going on in Huntsville, Alabama? Who's here? And see
cows and horses and that absolutely then you got good
food too, and great barbecue, all that good stuff down
in Huntsville. But that's why he looked at an attractive couple.
There was a modern that there was a go getter.
(47:36):
That's why I want you want be on the Real
Housewives of Atlanta. He was trying to pull y'all into Atlanta,
not knowing that he hadn't done his research yet. And
I'm not saying anything negative because everybody knows what they know.
I just have to know it because guess what. I
was a road comic. I I went through all the
cities in America telling my jokes. And when I got
to Huntsville, Alabama, it opened my eyes because every restaurant
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change that you can find in Houston or dall Us
was in Huntsville, Alabama. The the the intellectual or uh
concert crowd was in Alabama. And I realized that all
sitting around that high tech environment is sitting right there
in little old northern Alabama, Huntsville, Alabama. And that's what
you do. That's awesome. That's yes, that's hurts you. And
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that's one of the things you know that for us,
it's so awesome. It's actually, you know, it's easy certain
markets to get a show in, like your Atlanta, you're
all age or New York. But we're doing something right
here in Alabama, and I think that's part of the
significance of our program and of our shows. Well, guess
what I'm very happy about. I know the finale ended
in November, and so I know it's not on right now.
(48:44):
But let's talk about the entrepreneurship side of you too,
and also the fact that you guys were former school teachers. Correct. Yeah, yeah.
I have a degree in secondary education English and I
have a degree in special education. And I did go
to something what a year ahead. It was. It was tough.
(49:05):
It was it was toughing, very challenging, you know, dealing
with the kids of today. Let's talk about that because
like my degrees in mathematics, okay, my mind is in sociology.
I went to school and and I was I was
under the thought process that that's where I was supposed
I was supposed to. I don't reget going to college here.
I love the fact that I have a math degree,
but that doesn't mean that's your final journey. And that's
(49:26):
why I love about you got story. You know, you
were educators, so you're out there shaping minds and so
in your mind said this is the direction I should go.
But what made the twist? What? What what made that turn?
Because you know the to to Actually you were working
in the environment of your career choice. Why the change?
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You know, Um, I'll start person and let Martel answer
from my point of view. You know, I don't feel
like there's something set for you and that's your only
path and that's your only way. People can be versatile, right,
I think that for us, even though we were in
the classroom, we also ultimately still had that business side
to us because you gotta think, keep in mind, when
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we were teaching, you know, we started a lawn care business.
We you know, gained over fifty residential clients that we
were cutting lines after school and on the weekends running
this business. LLF seeded creating marketing material and things of
that nature. You know, we were doing all of that
while we were teaching, and then we went on to
gain some commercial clients in the line care fielding UM
(50:31):
cleaning certain offices like dental offices and things like that,
UM at night and on the weekend. So we though
we had degrees in education within us, who was still
when you say, Marcello, that business sense and business side
to us, Yeah, I think that, Melan. Now we both
are entrepreneurs at heart, and I think that's the key
to a lot of our success. Right there is no
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one had to coach us to be entrepreneurs. It was
already within. So it's we're gonna do multiple things. So
us teaching, it's like we had to do something else.
And also we wanted the better lifestyle as well, other
than you know, the thirty forty some thousand dollars salary
that we were getting from teaching and then teaching to
you know, it's not only full time, but it's like
over time, and you don't get paid over time from
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being a school teacher creating papers and creating lessons and
also coming out of your pocket pay for things that
goes out to teachers. Right now, and I'm hopefully one
day I'll be starting, Melan, I would be starting a
program to assist um, teachers in and I guess, you know,
getting better paying, you know, getting better more money and
things of that nature, because teachers, they do a lot.
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And I also come out of their pockets. I was saying,
because of the fact that, you know, just just because
the kid goes to school, don't mean they have the
proper supplies, don't mean they have the opportunity to be
able to, you know, learn the curriculum because of the
fact that you have to come out of your pocket
and get some extra paperwork or by a book. And
you know, there's always an option to be successful. Like
you said, go out and find the people who that's
(51:57):
what they do. You know, you find a person that
you're not, you're not supposed to poor. That's the concrete
Go find somebody that's what they do poor, the concrete delegate.
Delegate with degating too much, don't get him start delegate everything.
Hey brother, you gotta sleep. But I always tell people,
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you know, I remember when I started, uh the early
years of manager Steve Hard. You know, I I booked
the car, I booked the flights, I picked us up,
I brought all the food and went out and never realized,
you know, you gotta start getting extra people around you, security,
get called somebody to book your flight and your book
your car services. And that's I started delegating to Mard.
(52:41):
So you need to tell her to be quiet. I
know that's your wife and everything. She's beautiful, but she
can't tell she can't interrupt you when you're delegating. Delegating.
It is a beautiful thing, my brother. That's that's right.
And make you feel so much, make you feel better,
look better, look younger. You know what I'm saying. You know,
wake up with your back hurt, and delegate that pick
up over there, delegate that that that go do something
(53:01):
for me. Just just delegate. This the way to go.
So so whatever you say, miss Hope, I can't join
you on that. He can delegate all he wants. Now,
I'm sure you're a delegator too, aren't you, because I
can hear you talk. You almost wanted to tell me
something to do a couple of times during this interview,
because I know you tell people to do on a
regular basis. I delegate, but not as much as Martel.
(53:23):
You know, I do believe in balance, um, and I
think that a lot of times, you know, whenever we
are UM, with someone is great. Whenever you can. You
know you're not gonna fool me with this church voice. Uh.
I don't know how you handle it, brother, You know
you was four years older. You You're just a patient
(53:44):
brother with that church force. You know you just started
getting in an argument. You're gonna pull out that praise
the Lord voice on you. You don't know what to do?
You know you can, man, do I want to talking
about your through out that little sweet Alabama voice on you.
But I know she's a cutthroat in negotiation all that
because I know you can. I'm gonna just tell you
(54:04):
this now. You would probably when that when that opportunity
to demolish that home and rebuild it, you were thinking
about it, wouldn't you, mar Tell she had already started
planning it. Why can't we do it? Well, baby, baby, listen,
White Chid already that plans on the kitchen table. Everything
you're going because we were as men, we think things out.
We were thinking that women, why can't we? And then
(54:27):
then it forced us to be in the position to yes,
we can. So so it's a good power couple relationship.
So whenever one is thinking that they can't do it,
the others pushing them out the door. If everyone is
saying that car can't start, the others look, got the
hood up, Why can't you start? Let's make a start.
And that's why I love about this phone call because
your next book. I'm just telling your whole family common sense.
(54:50):
And if you if you have time, I want to
bring you back on my show. And if you ever
come up to Atlanta, love for you to come in
studio and sit down and let's talk about the calm
says whenever you want. We're good because we're gonna get
you back on the show. Because next week I'll be
a napty because I'll be marketing my show for fall
(55:12):
distribution distribution of money, money making conversation on network television. So,
my friends, I know that we're in a position to
win nowhere, the position to be special. But more importantly,
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my man, Rashan McDonald money making conversations. Here we come.
Come on now. There's a new movie streaming right now
on Netflix. It's Tyler Parris, my man A Fall from Grace.
Here's the storyline. Because I went down to Houston to
see this movie. So let me let me just reel
you guys on it. I was treated very special, very
very special. When I went to South they screening the
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characters Grace Waters. His storyline. Grace Waters played by Crystal Fox,
a longtime pillar of her Virginia community. Stay's composed when
that X where's his mistress? Who she called? Having sex?
And her son moves away adults, so we're convincing from
her best friend Sarah played by Felicia Rashard. She tries
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putting herself first, It's all about me now, and a
handsome stranger McKay Brooks becomes a surprised second love and
he's very very sexy, by the way, very very sexy.
Yet any woman can snap, and Grace's new husband soon
ravages her life, her work, and many say drove her
crazy or near sanity made her, made her, made her
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sanity was tested on that point. That's what love can do.
What love got to do? You'll find out in this movie.
Shut It in a sale awaiting trial for his murder race.
His only hope for vindication lives with Jasmine. The attractive
Jasmine Ryan played by the attractive appreciate Well who don't
know nothing, a public defender who always pleads her case,
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but for some reason, she wants to take this case
the court, which drives Tyler Parish character crazy. The movie
also co stars Oscar nominee Sincily Tyson and writer director
Tyler Parrott. A far from Grace, It's a mesmerizing thriller
built from unthinkable secret. Here's my tape because I was
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in Houston. That's my hometown. Everybody know him from fifth
for Tyler Perry storytelling had me all messed up in
a good way. Here's the money making conversation, interview you've
all been waiting for. Here's the money making conversation I
went down to Houston to get because my man, Tyler
Perry is worth the airline ticket. Please, Tyler Perry, please,
Felicia shar please, Crystal Fox and Brenchia Web money making Conversation.
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The interview of a lifetime Okay, cool, great, thank you
for having there. Tyler. I'm afraid of police. I'm afraid
of Crystal Fox. They are okay. I'm not giving away
too much because it's a beautiful movie. You stuck your
foot in this movie. You stuck you know, like the
old people say, just some food and if you stuck
your foot in it. Acting directing in the beginning of
the movie, I thought you were just gonna be a
(02:57):
cameo roll in there, but you played on like I'm
mentoring it and I want to give you too much,
but it felt like with a mentorship type. You know,
you was get your job done, get your job done
type character. Because your character is a public defender. Tell
me about that for a few minutes. I feel like
when I was reading the script, it was just all
there on the page. And Jasmine being a public defender,
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she wanted to give her all, but she was defeated already.
Um and of course Rory being the pass that he
is making easy gette and so she had to find
that in her strength and herself. And so it was
a joy to play. Absolutely. The thing I want to
say about Joe character because of the fact that you know,
I've seen you on have and have not, and this
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this was a contension. And Tyler was really interesting because
he pushed some of these characters in areas I didn't expect.
So tell me about that. That level of expectation that
he pushed you too in your role, Now that's the
beauty of it. Tyler gave me the script and he
lets me go for and if he's trying to say
or always allows for me to bring what I believe
is in that right. That's what's so awesome about. When
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he offers you something, you know he sees that, so
you come in and you just delve in and if
he believes it, he just lets you sell. Grace. Miss
Sarah played by I gotta say Miss for that character.
That was I know who you are. Television world has
laid it out to you can't go too far with
this character. But talk about preparation for that character, talk
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about the lens that you went to extend what he
wanted from that character for this particular movie, A Fall
from Grace. Yes, she well. What was important for this
character was to be true in every moment, every single moment,
whatever that moment was was real. She was real in
every moment. But you were misleading it at times. As
far as the relationship. That's that's beside the points now
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you were in the case say too much because in
the beginning of your character, your character plays out of
this person. You know, everybody felt that you can I
say this like a joke. You've been a lawyer, was
a joke and and then nobody respected you so that
that means they gave you an arc in the movie.
And how did that feel for you? I mean, well,
being looked at usually as a comedic actress, you don't
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really get to play and I love that you You
don't usually get to play a multi layer character in
that way that you can show the various sides of
a woman and how she is trying to balance her
her personal life and her work life and being defeated
when she comes home from work. So, like I said,
everything was on the page, and Tyler just gave us
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free will to go in and really developed these characters
in an honest way, But no character. I know they're saying,
you've given them free wid they gave you. You You gave
a free will the developed the character. But you have
you know what you wrote and let your comedic. You know,
first Lady TV, you know haven't happened all these characters
that I've seen shifted in disrections from their career that
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they led up to that point. But you cast some
these rules. Why no? I just first of all, Crystal
had not had a shot to be a leading role
or leading in a leading role, a leading lady, and
I thought it's high time forty years in the business,
and I was so excited to do that for her graduation.
Cast Brisa against type not commonly cast her in the
dramatically and acrimony. She did a couple small roles that
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were amazing. And then I add Sinceily Tyson and Miss
Felicia's shot to round out this level of talent. It
was just it was incredible for me. Well, I'm gonna
tell you something. I laughed. I was mad. People nextually
hitting me. You know, we go to a black movie
when they started getting Yeah, it's a good shot. People
still up in the end, Tyler, you did, you did? Really?
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You know? You know you have a fan. You know
now your Netflix tell us about that journey for your brain. Well,
I I filmed this movie. It wasn't originally with Netflix.
I just filmed it and I was gonna just shop
it and see where it was gonna land. But they
came right away. Yeah, They're like, come on, we got
we gotta have it. And I gotta tell you, it's
been the most diverse a group of people I've ever
worked with this so anything I've done in the Hollywood.
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So I'm really excited about working you know. I know now,
you know they they take some of these movies to
theaters and they put them back on and I'm gonna
tell you some some nominations to do for some of
these characters in this movie. I was very impressed with
the whole process and watching you build out this whole
concept of allowing you to make looking at your character
grace looking joke your character Jasmine, your character Miss Sarah,
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and bled and I was confused. You know, I'm a writer,
probably writing television a long time, and when you can
take a guy like me and I'm going kind of
frustrated in a good way because I don't know what
the script is going, but when it goes in their
lands and lands in such a powerful direction as a
testament not only that to you as a director and
the writer, but the characters you allowed to put on three.
But I'd be remissed because he's not here. Yes, Mr Brooks,
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Mr Brooks, we have to talk about him. He was sexy, Yeah,
he was. He hasn't mccauth Brooks as a human being
has an energy about him that is just what can
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I say? It's quiet and still and it's solid. It's
She's just like that a man. Yes, he did for
that reason alone, that the very presence of who he
is and then his nuances and the way he can
pay the pictures and actors, and the reason that's another
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role that came from Supergirl to being portrayed this character
because I didn't know where that characters are gonna go either.
You see the trailer, but it believe you trailer is
only an invite to a great movie, a great project.
I want to thank everybody. I hope the nominations come
you away. They're deserving or not only the picture, but
the characters you guys played in this movie. A Far
From Grace is a must see. Thank you guys for
taking the time. I'm trying to get you guys individually
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on my podcast because I was going to promote this brother,
you know me, appreciate your That's it, y'all. A Fall
from Grace, Storry, Tyler, Perry Alusi, Shan, Christopher Fox and
Preci Well. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald, the host of
Money Making Conversation. You say to yourself, who calls Rushan Shell,
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Did we take make sure we'd get a picture, you know,
one of one of candid pictures? Did you get hey, man,
(10:24):
what a y'all doing? Man? Or you can't get anybody?
I don't know if you're taking pictures you know? Over
there Will is, We'll see. It's probably with my teacher.
My next guest was introduced to the world. It's perfect
(10:47):
because Tyler Perry is on this show as well. Oh,
absolutely good stuff. This is a great intro. Introduced into
the world as a national recorded artist on the soundtrack
to Tyler Perry's first movie, Diary of a Mad Black Woman.
She's a comedian and it's written and co produced a
project with Ricky Smile. That's my boy gran Brother appeared
in Las Vegas as the Flamingo on George Wallace's stage.
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That's my boar just look crazy coming into Town teamed
up with George Wallace and Janathan Brown another food on
a show called Two Devils in an Angel. She's the
first African American woman to be syndicated on a nighttime
gospel radio show six million listeners and just heard in
forty six radio one cities. I'm tired just reading about
(11:30):
all of this and talking about all this. Please working
the money making conversation, my girl, Darline McCoy, in the
world are you doing route? We hadn't saw judging a while.
You know, you always coming for made a big old
spread for your calls. There they were. They ate it
all up, every bit of it. But let's talk about
you have an event coming up here. Yes, I do
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tell us about this event. So it's called well, it's
as City Winery Atlanta City City with City Atlanta and
Atlanta because of course you know they're national, but in
Atlanta it's um called Jesus wasn't Collectic Decades, which isn't
actually the name of my EP. So we're performing it live.
You're performing it live, so it's just gonna be you
on the show. No. I actually am introducing my son, Chap,
(12:16):
who is a hip hop he's a conscious hip hop
artist and an R and B artist Alvin. Yeah, well
but let's let's church more but still yes, that really conscious. Yeah,
he's he's like a rap in Martin Luther, maybe a
(12:37):
gospel of Travis Scott. Let's make let's make students say
yeah but not like that. But yes, yes, we're introducing him.
But um, but I'm gonna take everybody on a on
a journey through the decades from the seventies and eighties
and nineties and with your favorite music, you know, seventies
gospel music, then my music confused and then seventies R
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and B. Okay, cool. This is January twenty nine, twenty
nine of January. On the twenty I am in town. Okay,
I'm doing I'm hosting it in for the Big Brothers,
Big Sisters, Real Man mentoring a boar room Recoly. You'll
be there at Q. Parker will be there, Harry Douglas
would be there, and we'll be doing it at the
gathering spot and so on the twenty nine, which is
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the very next day. Um, being that you and my girl,
I would love to introduce you. What yes, listen to this,
did y'all hear that? Okay? So you want to introduce me.
Thank you, Yes, I would, thank you so much, thank you,
thank you, well, you know you that's happening. I've introduced
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a lot. Yes you have, Yes, you have a whole lot.
And I'm sitting up here like for real. Yes, So
I will be there not only to enjoy the show
you here, your son, but I will make sure that
make sure we get some batters. I promote it as well.
I can get it all my social latory. But I
know what Rashan. People know are rarely going on stage
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these days, right, but I'm so glad. Yeah, so you
can tell everybody Rashan McDonald will be introducing you the
winery in Atlanta. Thank you so much. You know, I've
always I am and always have been a fan, you know.
And when I would land in Houston, me have to
turn on the radio because you your your skills, it's
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it's so natural. And your your your ability to uh,
your relatable talent. That's what I always felt, your relatable talent.
And just so you know, so I was going through
preparing for my show and everything and that was just
moren that wrote. I wrote on everything I had to do,
my staff, and I emailed it out and I said,
I said, have I missing anything? And then Samanthe came
in that you know, always telling what I'm missing. She's executive,
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Samanthe's executive use of the show. And so she telling me,
you missed this, missed this, and then she had she
saw the NBA All Star Game in Chicago. Teach, do
you need anybody to go with you? I know? Said,
I don't need nobody. Okay, what I do need is
the free She said, come on the show today and
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I'm gonna talk to my girl and see if she
will allow me. Absolutely, are you kidding me? I am honored,
thank you, thank you so much. Where I'm honored, and
it's gonna be fun. And now we're gonna we're gonna
we're gonna do our best to make sure people are
turned away. Yeah, get the word out about it. But
what time in showtime? Showtime is eight o'clock. But the
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doors open it six people come in and get their
their wine and their food. And I've never been there.
How food, it's food, it's you can you can have dinner,
and you can your wine. And if you don't drink wine,
have water whatever you want to. But um, but you
can come and enjoy and have a nice dinner and
then be ready for the show. Okay, cool, okay, cool.
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Sounds like a supper club, yeah, which is which I
perform as a comedian many years ago. Really that for man,
I didn't like people eat. What I was trying to
tell jokes. You can sing and people can eat, right,
because you can dig and dig and groove and roll
in the gym, but you might choke somebody if they
then you know, you know, you know what I'm saying.
You gotta laugh, come, you gotta get feed verbal feedback.
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Then this is working right, all this rolling side the
side pointing at me on stage, All right, we're not
working with that. So so how long is this this
show being on the books? Actually? Um, we it in December.
We got a call and um and they were just like,
you know, and that's so. I mean, it was a
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blessing because a friend of mine was like, don't you
don't you have an EP dropping? I said yes. She says,
don't you want to play the cynic riding me? I'm like,
of course, So you know, she says, okay, let me
call you back. And then the young lady from the
city winery said could you do it on the twenty nine.
I'm like, yes, Wow, that's not absolutely I can and
we are not will. So we are so excited about it.
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My band is is excited. We're gonna perform probably for
if minutes to an hour, but we're gonna take you
through the decades everybody's I just pray that everyone has
a good time. Well they will, they will, Like My
whole thing is that you know already you know I'm
thinking about I'm gonna woke out there. You know this thing.
I gotta I gotta build a hype, right because it's
all about the intro. I'm gonna need that comedian. It's
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all about it's all about the intro. But the thing
that I fell in love and found you was on
radio okay, and I was on your syndicated show. So
tell us about that journey of of you know, we're
gonna get to the comedians later, but but the journey
of what you're doing now it's an entrepreneur as as
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a female and in the male dominated business, all businesses
for some reason dominated by men, even even women fashion,
they're making it okay, So so tell us about that
because there's something you're doing is very unique. That's why
we have to we have to put it out there
talk about Well. The thing of it is is UM
having this platform, I feel like I have to be
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responsible with it. UM. It's one thing to have the
platform because you know, people love you as a radio host,
that's one thing. But even with that, because they do,
I want to take advantage of this opportunity to bring
my friends along and help me, you know, reach back
into our communities. UM. Through the platform. I have something
called mobs and I know that you've been a part
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of that as well. UM. We do something annually called
UM Celebrities Cooking for Calls, and I reach out to
my celebrity friends like Rushan McDonald's SPECIALI and he came
through looking especially over holidays but I hated making But anyway, UM, UM,
I reach out to them and ask them to you know,
prepare their favorite meal and their favorite dish so that
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we can go and feed, UM those that are less
fortunate and wrap our arms around them and love on
them and UM you know, give them gifts and and whatnot.
So that's that's one of the things that I do, UM.
But everywhere that I have an opportunity to speak to mothers. Um,
I take the opportunity to do that. Us I am
a mother of three, but they've grown now because then
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I got two grandkids. But um, one thing that I
did not have a lot of I have my mother,
but I was not in the same city with my mother,
and I needed guidance, support, directions, someone in the point
me in the right direction, sometimes just right. That was
with an arm's reach. And I think that makes the
difference when you're raising children. Um. Sometimes you know, parents
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go through things where the father and the mother are
not you know, on good terms. But how do you
how do you make that work anyway? You know, you
still have to make it work for the children. So
everywhere that I can speak to young ladies and mothers,
I take the opportunity to do that. We all know
that you could say black white, you can say green yellow.
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People will hear what they want to hear exactly. And sometimes,
you know, as much as you try to bring clarity
to the situation, people can shape it to the direction
they want to tell the story that's right, you know,
and and it's really sad. So with that being said,
you in that gospel world, those church living the life
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of perfection. Come on, tell him nothing, Come on, because
they all socially right right, law have mercy. God is good.
How do you deal with that? Girl? God is good
for that thing? Right man? Man? Listen, who do you
know what you're talking to? Right right? What is a
church person? Listen that? What is the church person? What
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is there? There are several and you know you have
to understand, you know, I get excited about this part,
but actually, you know, I was raised in church, you know,
and so I know church like the back of my hand.
And then I run into some people that are not
living a truth. You are living, you are comfortably living
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a lie, and then you're covering yourself up with God
is good all the time. Well, yes that is true,
but are you the truth? Right? You see what I mean?
So yeah, that's it, just through Well you know the
thing about I'm not trying to push too much information out,
but I just know that I remember several years ago,
Steve Harvey and uh Kurt Franklin did a tour together.
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So I have first hand awareness that Brandon and marketing
that's in particular market because that was my responsibility. Yeah,
these dates sold out. He did it too, had a
comedian who was known for cussing, and I had Kurt Franklin,
who was all gospel, come against what teenagers and kids
could come to his show. So immediately when I put
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the tickets over, say I said eighteen and oh lord,
I didn't know because I'm just selling ticket. Get the
call from Kurt Preople, huh chickens, Uh eighteen and up?
We have kids and teenagers and BRENI we gotta change that,
and that said, Okay, what I'm gonna do, Kurt? Okay,
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can they not sit on the front brow? I said, Kenny,
can they just can they be on the third or fourth?
Because I know that Steve Harvey came. He's probably doing
that because he's family, a few kids. He's family a
few kids, he's straight family not but back just kind
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of did that video for Bishop TV Jakes. Okay, you
know that was the first time he did the show
with our cousins, so he wasn't all the way that
and so so I understood that when I when I
was trying to figure out at first I started marketing
on you know, gospel stations, then well, you know that's
my market wasn't selling no tickets because then I realized that, Okay,
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who are church people? Then I started going back to
the R and B stations. Okay station, My tickets started moving.
So that's why I have to ask the question who
are church people? Because when I was over there on
the church gospel station wasn't selling no tickets. When I
was when my e blasts were going out to the
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all Gospel citric, what's selling no ticket? As soon as
I went over there too, what they were called centers,
I started selling tickets. That's what I'm talking about. So
so that's why I asked that question, not to be
you know, condescendant, because I don't know who they are.
All I know is that they listen to Agree. They
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listened to the Pendographs, they listen to Scott, they the Kim,
they listen to Anthony Hamlets. Okay, if they listen to Keith,
that's all I'm saying. I'm listen. I'm going through kind
of the same thing because City Winery is a winery
and they're saying, well, the gospel people are not going
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to buy those tickets, and I'm like, oh, yes, they will, absolutely,
absolutely absolutely. It's really funny. See now, if you own
a gospel station talking about it. Then anything they go,
I can't come or just take that same interview to
R and B station and the same person the same
person here, girl, I'm gonna get those tick. Then he's
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not telling the life. That's that's the same part about
And that's that's what leads to my question that you
have my statement that you have breaking the stigma or
what church looks like. Talk to me about that. I
just believe that a lot of times, you know, what
we've done in the past with the church, and then
you know, promoting Christ and promoting God, we've made it
seem like he's so delicate that he can't take the
(24:26):
truth about who we are. That's why I love by
Kirk Franklin. Kris Franklin is a guy who's you know,
you know, you know. It's um, it's really interesting that
you say that because he's so honest in a brutal way,
and people go, Okay, why is he talking like that?
Because in the end, you should be able to be
yourself as a child of God. Come on, yeah, because
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God made us. I mean, it's like I am equipped
with everything God gave me. Why can't I be as individuals?
As individuals? That's exactly right, and each individual has equipment
and our purpose and a plan. And too many people
have talking on this show conversation, we're talking, We're talking. Okay,
(25:07):
thank you, That's what I'm saying. But but you know,
we as individuals, like I said, we have, we have,
we are show come on Sundays too, doesn't really? Yes?
Oh yeah, so you can talk like this, yes, good, good,
good good, because you know, just as I was, I
was just saying, you know, we have we are who
we are and God made us who we are. Right,
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but if we can't be authentic, what is the reason
that we are waking up every day? And so that's
what that's exactly right. We want real people. We want
real people that that have a real story and then
have something to say. No, I'm not perfect, that I'm
probably will never be perfect, and I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna be so arrogant to even try to be perfect.
(25:49):
Just be me. So you have a syndicated night and show.
What does that show? What does it produce? Shows? Syndicated
warning shows? So I know I have a system. You
start the phone calls and you have some jokes head,
you have entertainment news, what is what just the lineup
of your show? The lineup of my show, Well, I'm
I'm on at night, um, from seven to eleven pm.
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So my thought is, I'm I'm catching people who are
coming home from work and have had probably a hard
day and that want to talk. So I have, you know,
a chat room topic, so we could just talk about
absolutely anything, you know. But but my purpose for my
show is to uplift you know, before people go to
bed at night, just get everything off your mind that
(26:32):
will happen during the day and at night. Let's have
a little inspiration. Let's have some fun entertainment, laugh and
just kind of clear the atmosphere so that you can
sleep well. Now January, we're gonna have we will have
some inspiration at the Atlanta City Winery. That's right, um,
your show. The name of the EP is what Jesus
(26:52):
was Eclectic? And who all will be on the lineup?
It will be Alvin Garrett R and B. Singer hip
hop artist, my son the champ Um. Also Leon Timbo
is coming. Let me tell you something. He's he's amazing.
But then of course it will be me and my
band or did she forget somebody? And introducing hold on,
(27:15):
Wait a minute, hold on, I thought you were talking
about performing. But hold on one second. Let me just
bet you already said that you hope that the comedian
walks on the stage to introduce you have to you
already comedian Mr Money Making Conversations himself Rashan McDonald will
(27:35):
be introducing difficulty doing that, help Mom? Okay, money making
a conversation slash comedian slash that's we gotta make sure
that's all. Yeah, they get it because you know you
sold Multitalent my next guest. Production company, Kingdom Rain Entertainment LLC,
(28:02):
is recognized as one of the leading entertainment companies in television.
His credits conclude executive producer, Love and Marriage Huntville on
the Own Network, Styling Hollywood, Netflix, The Real Housewives of Atlanta, Bravo,
Hollywood Divas, TV one, The Next Fifteen, and Guccia Main
and Keisha The Main Event on b ET. Please welcome
(28:25):
to Money Making Conversation. They've said, let Freedom Rain. Let's
let Kingdom Rain, my man, Carlos king my man. For
first of all, you know you're doing great things and
uh in television because you know, it's just been a
(28:47):
journey in the reality world of respect, you know, and
I and I just tell you share my personal story.
When I was producing and UH and creating the Neighborhood
Awards with Steve, Steve Harvey was hosting, it was a
pure where you know, there were no African Americans and
dramas and or North African American show which that at
sitcom talent and all the talent was coming from the
(29:10):
reality TV world. And it was a period when reality
TV was fighting and throwing and cussing and fussing and
it was just ugly out there. And so it's really
putting a black eye on what do do black people
act like this? And I've seen that and I feel
there has been Now we see sitcoms with African Americans
on it, we see dramas would lead African Americans, and
(29:31):
I feel that that has helped UH stylized and help
the world of reality TV to be more accepted and
also shape better stories. Am I correcting another assessment? No,
you absolutely are. I think, um listen when it comes
to reality TV. The reason why I started my company,
Kingdom Rain Entertainment, is because I wanted to change the
(29:53):
landscape of how African Americans are beat on television. So
know your assessment is right in terms of uh has
been stored up the attention that's we're given to in
the past, and my hope is to redirect that in
the future. Well, you're doing a good job, first of all,
because you know, you know, and I would tell you
(30:13):
like I can have honest conversations and that, and I
really believe that the stories are being told better because
African Americans are actually producing these shows with African American
needs and African American content and they're not stories that
we assumed that's how they should act. Well, let's just
make believe this particular scenario and that I believe really helps.
(30:34):
And so when I you said, Rashan, you're excited to
have me on the show, Yes, I am, because you
are telling the story that is accurate. We all know
it's entertainment. Don't get me wrong, callers, that's entertainment. We
got to have the ratings. Heither, right, But guess what
there is credibility and how the stories being told now
because you understand the culture. Yeah, no, that's true, that's true.
(30:56):
And I would think other reason too, because again, prior
to me starting the company, I was a hired freelance
producer who had to produce these shows and did not
really have a stay in the beginning, middle, and end
of how these stories were being told. And the biggest
theme that I wanted to give people work credibility and
(31:18):
to show that there is an audience out there where people,
especially African Americans, they want to see people who look
like them on television, but they also want to make
sure that it's really something that's happening in the real lives.
And when you look at Love and Marriage Hunt Bill
on the Oprah Whimpering Network and the show to Me
(31:38):
is doing well, um solely because you have three couples
who I think represent a large part of black family households.
Whether or not you disagree with them or agree with them,
you know somebody who sort of represents that that lifestyle.
So the show has been a huge hit for own
(31:59):
because these African American couples who are successful, but they
also are giving you insight into what happened in their
households to hopefully shed light on what happens in households
across America. And the success of that show, to me,
shows the reason why I wanted to begin the company
(32:21):
and I'm hoping that I continue to have people tune
into the shows we're creating over here. That really speaks
to that attention. Well, I'm gonna tell you something. I
know when I left IBM, I was a degree as
mathematics and left IBM to do stand up comic because
I traveled all over the country telling jokes. And what
people don't know is, uh, how modern the city of
(32:45):
Huntsville is. It's one of the It's like a silicon
vast technology. Why that's where NASA started. NASA started in
hunted exactly, and a lot of people don't understand that.
So I remember. So, if you any any popular chain
in America, food Changing, it is in Huntsville, Alabama, and
and so and so I know, I usually love going
there because you know, great comedy and close are people
(33:07):
you know, well, very knowledgeable and you don't do crazy
things to get people to laugh. And so so you
picked the city that, as one would say, you know,
it's like with a high uh intellectual and cultural platform
in Huntsville, Alabama, And a lot of people didn't know that.
And I think that you're telling the story and opening
people's eyes to Huntsville. Yeah, no, that was you know what,
(33:33):
that was the biggest goal. When Melody and Mark Home
met with me, you know, they they drove from Huntsville
to Atlanta. I was living there at the time. This
is maybe five years ago, and they pitched me the
idea of doing something in Huntsville. And just to be
completely transparent, I'm like, who's in the hunstand all about?
(33:54):
You know what? I mean? More curious about the city
than anything else. And I you that Melito and Martell
has something interesting to tell the world, But I was
really interested in the city as a whole. And you
are right. It's such a city that has so many
affluent black people who thrived there and they're super smart.
(34:18):
We met with a rocket scientist, you know, this black
man who's a rocket scientists think you hear, you hear
about what you've never really seen. So it's such a smart,
savvy town. And I think a lot of people watch
the show and they're like, Wow, they're smart, successful black
people who live in Huntsville, Alabama. And to me is
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putting the city on the map, and it's allowing the
city to really be shown in a light that you know,
when people think of the South, they think, oh, they're
uneducated and the sect off the shows providing something different
means the world to me. Yeah, it's really cool. Like
like I I very when I when I realized it
was coming on, I tuned in because now and because
if you know, I've had a blessed life to be
(35:02):
able to articulate something by Huntsville, Alabama to you and
be able to be on dead own spot means that
I've I've experienced that culture and I was so my
life has allowed me to experience a lot of different paths.
And the fact that you know, this is not Birmingham,
this is not Montgomery, this is Huntsville. Totally different cons city,
totally different set up, totally different lifestyle. And it also
(35:23):
is who doesn't have it, Who doesn't do a country cousin? Okay, right,
we don't have you know, you know, because everybody got
to cut your cousin in the South. Okay, everybody in
the North came from the South. So so you wouldn't
everybody from l a move from Alabama or Mississippi or Arkansas.
So yeah, so so you weren't out of your comfort zone.
You actually bringing people back to their roots. Oh absolutely, absolutely,
(35:47):
And and looking I'm from right, come on, getting comfortable now,
he getting comfortable. Now, it's all just got caught. Yeah,
let's let's do it. No, I'm from the Tree and
I grew up in the whole era of black excellence
and you know, growing up when my motor City was
(36:08):
really thriving in the Motown sound and all that amazing stuff.
So again, it's all about giving back to your community
in some in some way, and with Huntsville, that was
one part of it. But it's what you said it again.
I think the show is successful because you look at
these African American people and they remind you of family,
(36:31):
They remind you of home. And my hope is that
that is an eye opener as even for me and
my team to really start putting more of these other
I'm not gonna say forgotten towns, but more so a
town that a lot of people just aren't familiar with.
So even the way we're creating shows, Rishan, we're really
(36:51):
taffricking to markets where it's the typical Atlanta, Miami and
late New York. Like, we're going down to the south
just to really see what is there. Because I think
the way television is is working a lot of people,
you know, they're bored easily with the same city you
see across television. But to tap into those towns where
(37:13):
you've heard about the city but you don't really know
about it, Um, that excites me to really put more
of these cities on about So now you've got you've
got Freedom Rain out there, Kingdom Rain is backing it up,
backing it up. And I, uh, when you when you
put together these casts, uh, and you put put together
the shows, what show do you feel over the years
that you that you you know, I know we talked
(37:35):
about Housewives of Atlanta they really touched you? Or just
just say, hey, man, really I learned so much from
being a part of that show. And you know I
always have friends from that show. What show may have
touched you like that over the years that I produced
somebody own owns? Oh good question. Um, I'll say this much.
(37:56):
I think since Hollywood Divas the first show that my
company was able to produce TV one, Yeah, thank you
back in twenty four team, I would say that show
will always mean the most to me. It's like it's
like I'm not a parent, but I'm gonna assume all
(38:17):
parents feel this way about their first born, like there's
nothing like your first born. Like you love you, you
love all your kids equally, but that that feeling and
that experience of your firstborn means the most. It's because
it's the first. We don't look at it interest You
say that. It's interesting, you say that because I want
I want to share a story, which I know we're
(38:39):
running a time. I want to get this in. And
it's very propositive what you're saying, because when you go
out there and you do something for the first time,
what's your production company? I remember when I was did
the Neighborhood Awards and I actually produced it for the
first time myself, and you know, I was you know,
people asked me and I told him, yeah, even though
I didn't know what, I still moved forward with confidence
(39:00):
because I felt I was ready. I felt that I've
seen it all enough to be able to confidably go
out there and know that that camera goes there, that
stage and goes there, that like you goes there, that
has to happen right there. And and I actually when
when when when I actually was rehearsal, I was I
was brought to tears because I realized that there's how
(39:21):
much work you have to put in, and how many
naysayers stepping between your stepping between your opportunities. And even
the people that you care about, you really can't turn
to them because they don't even know what you're talking about.
So the support that they can offer to you, it's nice,
but it ain't enough. And and you got to walk
(39:42):
out there. I always tell people this, and joking, I
always say, if you are if you are in the
military and you're telling them you're the captain and you're
telling somebody to charge up a hill, you can't have
tears in your eyes because the reality is is that
you have to be straight. You have to be strong,
You have to at the top of your game, even
(40:02):
even if everybody around you questions you. That means you
have to do your homework. And my friend, I say
that in a very complimentary manner, sharing a very personal
part of my life. Seeing what you are doing and
seeing what you are accomplishing. I'm proud of your callers,
thank you for doing my show. And uh and UH
always know if you have a banner or sizzle reel
(40:25):
that you want to promote, a premier or a big
moment of closure, and then the guests you want to
bring on my show. You have a home here, call
us because of the fact that you're changing television. Man,
don't change, and the revenue is coming, my man, the
revenue is coming. Kingdom Rain. Y'all, Kingdom Rain. Thank you callers,
(40:46):
appreciate your brother. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald, the host
of Money Making Conversation. You say to yourself who calls
Rushan Shell. Please welcome to money Making Conversations, Lonny Love.
You have to believe in yourself. Nobody else believes, and
you believe in yourself. With me being the first woman
to host as successible with seventy thousand people to introduce
(41:10):
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Money Making Conversations. Lynn, your daughter Charity is a hot
mess on Grelease. Well she is, she is. She's just
trying to find her footing and she got spoiled because
(41:30):
there were maids and things to help take care of
her a lot of times. The baby and the family
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(41:51):
on the phone. Educators turned entrepreneurs are the epitome of
the turn power couple. The dynamic dual started business business
together in the early twenties and with the three years
grew into a million dollar business and only and only
two years later, a multimillion dollar business. Their owners of
Hope and Hope Entrepreneurship. They are also owners of Hope
(42:13):
Custom Homes. They're working. They are working real estate in
the thriving city of Huntsville, Alabama. I've been in Huntsville, Alabama,
so I'm not I'm not joking around when that's used
the term thriving city of Huntsville, Alabama. Please welcome to
money Making Conversation because they are the stars of their
own series, are featured on their own series. Just in
case somebody gets upset when I used the word stars,
(42:36):
love and marriage Huntsville, Please welcome to money Making Conversation.
Melody Melody and Martel Hote. Hello, Hi, Hello, Hello Bear. Well,
first of all, well we'll take that, we'll take that on.
You know you got to because guess this by Brandon
and Marketing and guess what I read your bio. You
(42:58):
guys truly understand that you're not afraid to step out
and and and and and go take your your your
careers and opportunities down to different lane. And that's really important.
So well, thank you so much for that. We appreciate that,
and thank you for having us on your show today. Well,
first of all, it is thankful for me because you know,
when you build a brand and you get out there
(43:18):
and it has to have some relevances and people. Easy
to do with Sean McDonald's show, Money Making Conversation Show,
because when I started the platform three years ago, you know,
I had my celebrity friends call in and and I
didn't know even though why I was talking to him,
you know, just they were calling in and hey, ro Sean,
and after hay very Seawan, it went, okay, what we're
gonna talk about. So I had to develop a point
of view. And my point of view is to bring
(43:40):
talented individuals. You guys, not only are you know celebrities
from a from a TV standpoint, but your celebrities in
the entrepreneurship the world, and that's where I that's where
I live in entrepreneurship as well as entertainment, and so
I wanted to bring you on the show. Both of
you because it's a power couple. I love bringing power
couples on the show because it's really about communication and
(44:00):
it's about bellon it because you bring your work home
and you take your work away from home, and you
need to have to learn when to stop working. And
so I wanted to start off because I had Carlos King.
He was on the show yesterday. He's the creator executive
Carlos King. Now, come on now, he was, and I
told him that I was going to be interviewing you
(44:21):
guys and he said, wow, he said, they tell us
how you guys created how that I was the relationship
that you guys have to start out with Carlos King. Well,
you know, it's so just very interesting and amazing because
we actually met Carlos King five years ago and when
we sat down and met with him, it was for
(44:42):
a consultation to pitch this show idea that we had
that was really based off of us, our family and
our business and interest in this industry called the property
preservation industry, which is a multibillion dollar industry. Right, So
we met with him pay star, oh show them our treatment,
and he loved, you know, he loved the idea. He said,
(45:04):
you know, you guys look like you would be great
on TV. But to be honest, the first thing you
said was, you know, what do you say? Right He said,
you guys want to be on Real Housewives of Atlanta
and right now was like, uh, now, I want to
keep my wife. At that time, yeah, yeah, So that's
kind of was a lot of breakups and stuff relationship
if you're going on and on housewives, and was like,
(45:26):
I want to keep my wife. So when we met
with him, and then over the years, we just continue
to reach out to Carlos, continuing to fill Huntsville, to
sell the whole brand, showing him what's happening in Huntsville,
what's happening with our family dynamic, and you know, we
just you know, we really pushed the idea and it
(45:49):
doesn't happen overnight all the time. You know, now we
have a show on the Oprah Winfrey Network and we're
so thankful and excited about that and you know, just
thankful for that opportunity. But it took a long time
us saying in contact and pushing what we thought would
be a great idea. And then we speak about pushing,
you know, we hired our own staff to you know,
record us and things of that nature supposed to do
(46:10):
like sizles and things like that. So it was it
was it was work. It was work. Um. So like
Melody mentioned, doesn't happen overnight, So we really have to
put work in to accomplish the goal. When the goal
was to get a show, and we got it, fortunition
accomplished and on to the next name. Absolutely the cool
thing aboudy go okay, Huntsville, Alabama, the birthplace of Alabama, uh,
(46:31):
population with about two thousand population. But then you start
digging into Alabama high tech. You know, the legacy of
the space programs out of Alabama Huntsville about a lot
of people don't know that reason I know that was
that when I left IBM and U six to become
a comic on the road, I used to come through
it Huntsville, Alabama to perform. So when I walked when
(46:53):
I went into that market, you know, it's it's is
totally different from any of the city in Alabama because
of that high tech. And I totally agree. And if
you have we have the number two research park um
in the country, huh and the largest research in the country.
And I'm sure that you know when when you when
you came to call us calls just like anybody else. Huntsville, Alabram,
(47:15):
what's going on in Huntsville, Alabama? Who's here? And see
cows and horses and that absolutely then you got good
food too, and great barbecue, all that good stuff down
in Huntsville. But that's why he looked at an attractive couple.
There was a modern that there was a go getter.
(47:36):
That's why I want you want be on the Real
Housewives of Atlanta. He was trying to pull y'all into Atlanta,
not knowing that he hadn't done his research yet. And
I'm not saying anything negative because everybody knows what they know.
I just have to know it because guess what. I
was a road comic. I I went through all the
cities in America telling my jokes. And when I got
to Huntsville, Alabama, it opened my eyes because every restaurant
(47:57):
change that you can find in Houston or dall Us
was in Huntsville, Alabama. The the the intellectual or uh
concert crowd was in Alabama. And I realized that all
sitting around that high tech environment is sitting right there
in little old northern Alabama, Huntsville, Alabama. And that's what
you do. That's awesome. That's yes, that's hurts you. And
(48:22):
that's one of the things you know that for us,
it's so awesome. It's actually, you know, it's easy certain
markets to get a show in, like your Atlanta, you're
all age or New York. But we're doing something right
here in Alabama, and I think that's part of the
significance of our program and of our shows. Well, guess
what I'm very happy about. I know the finale ended
in November, and so I know it's not on right now.
(48:44):
But let's talk about the entrepreneurship side of you too,
and also the fact that you guys were former school teachers. Correct. Yeah, yeah.
I have a degree in secondary education English and I
have a degree in special education. And I did go
to something what a year ahead. It was. It was tough.
(49:05):
It was it was toughing, very challenging, you know, dealing
with the kids of today. Let's talk about that because
like my degrees in mathematics, okay, my mind is in sociology.
I went to school and and I was I was
under the thought process that that's where I was supposed
I was supposed to. I don't reget going to college here.
I love the fact that I have a math degree,
but that doesn't mean that's your final journey. And that's
(49:26):
why I love about you got story. You know, you
were educators, so you're out there shaping minds and so
in your mind said this is the direction I should go.
But what made the twist? What? What what made that turn?
Because you know the to to Actually you were working
in the environment of your career choice. Why the change?
(49:48):
You know, Um, I'll start person and let Martel answer
from my point of view. You know, I don't feel
like there's something set for you and that's your only
path and that's your only way. People can be versatile, right,
I think that for us, even though we were in
the classroom, we also ultimately still had that business side
to us because you gotta think, keep in mind, when
(50:10):
we were teaching, you know, we started a lawn care business.
We you know, gained over fifty residential clients that we
were cutting lines after school and on the weekends running
this business. LLF seeded creating marketing material and things of
that nature. You know, we were doing all of that
while we were teaching, and then we went on to
gain some commercial clients in the line care fielding UM
(50:31):
cleaning certain offices like dental offices and things like that,
UM at night and on the weekend. So we though
we had degrees in education within us, who was still
when you say, Marcello, that business sense and business side
to us, Yeah, I think that, Melan. Now we both
are entrepreneurs at heart, and I think that's the key
to a lot of our success. Right there is no
(50:52):
one had to coach us to be entrepreneurs. It was
already within. So it's we're gonna do multiple things. So
us teaching, it's like we had to do something else.
And also we wanted the better lifestyle as well, other
than you know, the thirty forty some thousand dollars salary
that we were getting from teaching and then teaching to
you know, it's not only full time, but it's like
over time, and you don't get paid over time from
(51:14):
being a school teacher creating papers and creating lessons and
also coming out of your pocket pay for things that
goes out to teachers. Right now, and I'm hopefully one
day I'll be starting, Melan, I would be starting a
program to assist um, teachers in and I guess, you know,
getting better paying, you know, getting better more money and
things of that nature, because teachers, they do a lot.
(51:37):
And I also come out of their pockets. I was saying,
because of the fact that, you know, just just because
the kid goes to school, don't mean they have the
proper supplies, don't mean they have the opportunity to be
able to, you know, learn the curriculum because of the
fact that you have to come out of your pocket
and get some extra paperwork or by a book. And
you know, there's always an option to be successful. Like
you said, go out and find the people who that's
(51:57):
what they do. You know, you find a person that
you're not, you're not supposed to poor. That's the concrete
Go find somebody that's what they do poor, the concrete delegate.
Delegate with degating too much, don't get him start delegate everything.
Hey brother, you gotta sleep. But I always tell people,
(52:17):
you know, I remember when I started, uh the early
years of manager Steve Hard. You know, I I booked
the car, I booked the flights, I picked us up,
I brought all the food and went out and never realized,
you know, you gotta start getting extra people around you, security,
get called somebody to book your flight and your book
your car services. And that's I started delegating to Mard.
(52:41):
So you need to tell her to be quiet. I
know that's your wife and everything. She's beautiful, but she
can't tell she can't interrupt you when you're delegating. Delegating.
It is a beautiful thing, my brother. That's that's right.
And make you feel so much, make you feel better,
look better, look younger. You know what I'm saying. You know,
wake up with your back hurt, and delegate that pick
up over there, delegate that that that go do something
(53:01):
for me. Just just delegate. This the way to go.
So so whatever you say, miss Hope, I can't join
you on that. He can delegate all he wants. Now,
I'm sure you're a delegator too, aren't you, because I
can hear you talk. You almost wanted to tell me
something to do a couple of times during this interview,
because I know you tell people to do on a
regular basis. I delegate, but not as much as Martel.
(53:23):
You know, I do believe in balance, um, and I
think that a lot of times, you know, whenever we
are UM, with someone is great. Whenever you can. You
know you're not gonna fool me with this church voice. Uh.
I don't know how you handle it, brother, You know
you was four years older. You You're just a patient
(53:44):
brother with that church force. You know you just started
getting in an argument. You're gonna pull out that praise
the Lord voice on you. You don't know what to do?
You know you can, man, do I want to talking
about your through out that little sweet Alabama voice on you.
But I know she's a cutthroat in negotiation all that
because I know you can. I'm gonna just tell you
(54:04):
this now. You would probably when that when that opportunity
to demolish that home and rebuild it, you were thinking
about it, wouldn't you, mar Tell she had already started
planning it. Why can't we do it? Well, baby, baby, listen,
White Chid already that plans on the kitchen table. Everything
you're going because we were as men, we think things out.
We were thinking that women, why can't we? And then
(54:27):
then it forced us to be in the position to yes,
we can. So so it's a good power couple relationship.
So whenever one is thinking that they can't do it,
the others pushing them out the door. If everyone is
saying that car can't start, the others look, got the
hood up, Why can't you start? Let's make a start.
And that's why I love about this phone call because
your next book. I'm just telling your whole family common sense.
(54:50):
And if you if you have time, I want to
bring you back on my show. And if you ever
come up to Atlanta, love for you to come in
studio and sit down and let's talk about the calm
says whenever you want. We're good because we're gonna get
you back on the show. Because next week I'll be
a napty because I'll be marketing my show for fall
(55:12):
distribution distribution of money, money making conversation on network television. So,
my friends, I know that we're in a position to
win nowhere, the position to be special. But more importantly,
thank you for for spending the time with me the
last thirty minutes on this show and shared nuggets, shared
nuggets of information, common sens information all the way from Huntsville, Alabama.
(55:40):
Thank you, teammates. I appreciate you. We talked soon
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