Kaosu Studios Creator Spotlight - Moon Star Radio Presents - Moon Star: A Sailor Moon Podcast

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Round, a rounding circle, roundaround again because submission is the futchu fuchu

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and we move down in circle again. Mission is that each cha can kiss
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your check out. Hello, andwelcome back to Moonstar Radio. Today we

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have a very special episode. Thisis our first ever Moonstar Spotlight. Kaosu
Studios is someone that I have hadmy eye on for several years. I've
mentioned them several times on the showbefore I told you all. I found
them through their anime music video Monsterand we connected over the past year,

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you know, sort of went backand forth a little bit until we were
able to lock down a time andrecord an episode for you guys. Something
that I wasn't expecting is that weare so similar in terms of our reference
point, the time period we're from, and I think we just have I
don't know, you'll this episode issort of part interview, part you getting

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to sit in on a conversation betweentwo sailor moon super fans, just like
going off together, you know,And I left it a little more free
because I wanted you guys to feellike you were just part of the group,
you know, part of like youcould jump in and say whatever you
wanted to with us. You know, be sure to check today's episode description

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for all of the links you couldpossibly ever need about everything Kausu Studios.
Let's get into it. There isabnormal activity on Earth. I fear that

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it may be approaching us. Thatam a learning rate. Our sister planets
have been troubled as well. Therehas been an exceptional change in their people's
behavior almost and Damos declared reminds themof that somber time. Lady Mala,
do you think it's time for theWow? It cannot happen now. They're
far too young. There is stilltime yet. We cannot tarnish their innocence

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so soon. But lady mall,we must accept my fate as it comes.
We all know it is inevitable.But I, oh, princess,
oh my little one, what areyou doing one during the whole tul late
at night? Come, let's getyou the bed. So I know that

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your content has moved like beyond theYouTube stuff for the most part right now,
but can we start with some ofthat? Yeah? Sure, okay,
So the first thing we're going todo is like the meet you segment
and basically at the top you're goingto say like, Hi, I'm Blair,
I'm do Blair, and you canfind me a Blair and give us

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little like segments of what you wantto say. All right, Hi,
I'm Kaosu from Chaosa's Studios. Iam the creator of Sailard Moon Sacrifice,
which many know as a continuation ofSailor Moon on YouTube. We are now
evolved into a manga based off ofFacebook. They can follow us right now

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at Facebook dot com slash Chaosa Studios. We also have an Instagram under the
same name Chaosa Studios, and wewill be making our own website eventually,
just to basic Chaosa Studios dot comkind of thing, and that's kao Su
Studios. That's it. Well,welcome to the show. Thank you for
agreeing to do this. Thank youfor having me. I've been a fan

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of you for a really long timeand I've mentioned it on the show before,
but and you know now I've gottento gush at you over it.
But it's because of one of yourold anime music videos, which, yeah,
do you still do that? No? No, I haven't touched a
MBS in a very long time.What made you step off that train Sacrifice.

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When Sacrifice first started and when wereally got into the nitty gritty of
editing everything, that's pretty much allmy free time was spent on. I
couldn't really do much else. Thatmakes sense because Sacrifice is like a very
involved animation project. And speaking ofthat, let's get what is Sacrifice?
Can we give a little summary?Yeah, sure, it's uh, let's

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go with how it originally started.It was supposed to be a horror continuation
or horror sue continuation of silar Moonafter the fifth season in the anime,
where two sisters are destined to killone another, thus only one loan survivor.
And this is and it was basedsorry, it takes place after Stars

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immediately, it does almost immediately,Yeah, okay, go on. It
was based off my favorite video gameat the time, Fatal Frame two,
same premise kind of thing, justa lot darker. Okay, Fatal Frame
two. What system is that for? I believe it was released on PlayStation
primarily, and they also ported itto Xbox at the time. Okay,

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so there's probably a gamer fan outthere somewhere that's like, I know that
game. Absolutely, it's a it'sa popular French ties for sure. Yeah,
and for anyone who wants to seethe sacrifice animations. It has three
acts, is that correct? Yes, there was a fourth incomplete one that
was uploaded. However, Toe camefor us for that one for some reason,

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out of all three, out ofall four of them, they went
for that one. But yeah,all three are available on the YouTube page
as well as a short prolog thatwe came up with. Yeah, and
actually I was just putting together acontent creator spotlight playlist for you, specifically
for your studio on YouTube, andI put them all there in order.

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Sorry if you hear my cat,she decided to do this. Yeah,
hello, And so anyone can goto the Sailor Moon video YouTube and hit
that playlist and it'll just go fromthere's a little cute thing at the beginning.
It's the O Hi video. Ilove that, and it'll go from
there, then us the opening,and then it'll just go through all the

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acts with I put you know,I included the other stuff in there too,
but all that's there, and youcan watch the complete one through three
of Sacrifice with act four. Isthere any way you can like put it
out in a platform that's not YouTube. It actually still is up on YouTube.
We have a kind of like asister channel, an unofficial one.

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He's been dubbing her stuff in Spanish. I believe it's still up on his
channel. The only difference between ourupload and his, and I think he
added his own music. Okay,do you mind if I add that one
to the playlist? Then yeah,sure, I'll get you the link.
Okay, great, Yeah, sothen people can see the whole thing.
Yeah. They used to upload allof our videos, every single one,

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even the ones we deleted, youcan still find on his channel. Oh
well, I'm it's kind of niceto have a backup. Although no,
for sure, I will say becauseI have an old channel that I made
when I was a kid that Idon't use anymore, but it has all
my old ambs on it, andsomeone reposted one of them from my channel
and it ended up getting more viewsthan mine. And I was looking at

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it and then and there was somethingin the description that was like, thank
you to the creator of this.You gave me a lot of tender moments.
And I was like, does thisCarl? I was like, wait,
but do they know me? Isthis like a childhood friend who is
this like what and then why didthey RepA anyway, it doesn't matter.
I'm glad war people saw it,but it's just one of those things.
It is a little weird when yousee like your content somewhere else. Right,

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Well, it became pretty normal forus. People were like taking our
videos, uploading them some kind ofclaiming the character as their own. I'm
like, whatever, let that go. That's interesting. I don't know that
anyone could do that to me withthis show. That would be hard for
them to like continue it trying toimitate. Well. I mean, like
Karai as she started was a simpleslap black hole in a day, right,

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so I couldn't really be mad atpeople for fair enough. Now that
she's evolved with a different hair colorand you know, her own quirks,
her own little up so she pulledan ash details and that her hair got
some freckles, you know, yes, yes, as she's the bad sister.

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Um, sorry, she's so evil. Um. I Actually, I'll
be honest, I haven't watched theentirety of Sacrifice yet. I think I
told you that before, but that'sbecause I'm wanting to do a mini series
where we cover it on the show. Here just because I don't know,
I want to give some fan projects, you know, attention as well as
the main mainline series. But yeah, is there anything about Saco actually?

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I want to know with Sacrifice?Can you tell us? I guess starting
go with the most recent season,so it's the most up to date,
But like, what is your processfor creating something like that? Typically?
Now are we talking video or themanga? Now, let's do one about
the video and then one about themanga. Okay, well, video The

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story was pretty much all with me, all in my head kind of thing,
and we just kind of base theepisode on what was going on at
the time, and we had tomake the episode in accordance to what we
had available, So we only hadbase footage available and we kind of had
to make things work from there.Like, the story did not go the

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way I wanted it to at all, just because we were so constricted with
what we had, even with theediting, even with people tracing over things
to make them look different, evenwith some of the original work we incorporated,
it just wasn't possible to go inthat direction. So what you see
is kind of a in the videos, a forced story that didn't really make

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sense, Like when when when herI first comes out, people think like,
oh, she got Siler Moon's powerswithout earning them, blah blah blah
blah blah. But what they didn'tknow is that she's not actually there.
She's just kind of like a reflectionright now. Like, yeah, she's
mimicking and feeding off of a Saggieright now. She's not even real at
this point because it Act four.You can see her where she's been sealed

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in the throne kind of thing ifwhen you when you get to that point,
you can see it, but herbody, her body is like stuck
down there kind of thing. It'sgiving I don't know if I'm on the
right path here, but it's kindof reminding me. Do you know the
episode in the season one with thehaunted mansion and the little girl who is
like basically being abused and hypnotized byher dad. Yeah, and then her

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subconscious creates the ghost monster or whateversort of Yeah, it's a kind of
similar idea. It's kind of similarto that. Yeah, I love that.
I think that's so interesting. Butwe never got to the point where
we could explain that. Oh sopeople went off on the Roman theories and
stuff, and like said, she'sa big Mary suit, and I'm like,
it looks that way. I'm goingto let that slide. It's enough.

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We just haven't gotten to that pointwhere we can explain everything yet.
But with the Mongo, we're goingat a more rapid pace so we can
get there. I was going toask you, are you continuing the same
story with the Mango or is itdifferent? We are adjusting it to we're
pretty much scrapping the video, startingfresh kind of thing, just so we
can go in the direction we've alwayswanted to go in, because you have
a lot more control with that,right, exactly exactly. I was wondering

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what I was actually going to ask, what made you pivot from the YouTube
or the videos to that? Butit does make sense. It's probably a
lot easier to create content that way. M Yeah, okay, Well,
the main reason why I did stopthe videos is because I was pregnant at
the time when we were when wedid the reboot for the prologue, and

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in the back of my head,I'm like, yeah, I got this.
We can work on this while Ihave a newborn at home, while
I have a year off. Right, No, no, No, The
baby's going to help. Yeah,that that was the plan. No,
I didn't early and then all theother kids, because he's already got the
editing scale, right. I justI didn't realize the amount of time and

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effort, love and care and everythingabout being a first time mom. I
imagine it's no matter what people tellyou, and no matter how many books
you read, it you can't prepareenough. You know. It's just I
imagine it's it's it's a wild ridehaving a kid. Nothing really prepares you
for it. Do you have anyplans to try to continue any video or

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animation stuff in the future. Um, I would like to, but it's
going to be way, way waydown the road. UM. I probably
I wouldn't go back to videos ofsacrifice again. I do miss video editing
as an entirety. I'd probably juststart editing my own things moving forward.
Yeah, I was curious because withthe AMV things. The reason I stopped

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was YouTube started to with like becauseI got into it, I want to
say, in like two thousand three, like two thousand and four, very
very early on. And that wasback when you could upload that stuff and
YouTube didn't care, right, andthere wasn't the same like licensing checks and

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stuff that there is now and oncethey started to really kick that into gear.
I don't know if this ever happenedto you, but like working on
one of those videos takes a reallylong time. And then when it's done
and I'll put together, you goto publish it on the platform you're used
to using, and then it's like, oh, you can't block. Yeah,

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but it's a lot different now.I mean, you don't get copyright
strikes anymore unless the creator specifically comesfor you. Like we had a song
we used with a video that's noteven up anymore. It's by Umi,
I forget the artist's name, butwe still have that strike on our channel
from many, many many years ago. If we were supposed, if we

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were too upload that video today,that would be fine. What would happen
is it would be fine because shewould get like that company or the owner
would get a cut of the views, profit from the views. Yeah,
yeah, Well, we can't getrid of that strike no matter what we
do. It's there forever. That'snot cool. They should they, I
imagine eventually they'll adjust their policies tomake a way to deal with that.

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It's probably just a not on theirpriority list, to be honest. No,
it's it's us understandable. I mean, like, like the channel is
probably not going to be updated anymoremoving forward, so it's not that big
of a deal. But oh that'sa shame. But no, that's why
I got out of it though,because it's like it was such a weird
thing to not be able to shareyour work, you know what I mean.

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And then I think the only otheralternative was sailor or what is the
anime music video dot org or something. Oh yeah, that the website was
a blessing because I believe it wasactually around before YouTube came out. It
was it was, yeah, becauseI remember posting my MBS there first before
I went to YouTube. But everyone'sa professional critic there, right, You're

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just a beginner amb editor, andeveryone's like giving you these specific details of
where you went wrong. I'm justlike, I'm sorry, man, I'm
trying. That was my first exposureto criticism, like because it was it
was really intense and I didn't knowhow to take it at the time because
I was really new at it.So I'm just like, okay, sorry,
I'll do better. It cut outright when you were telling me what

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the criticism was. What did theysay? Oh, it was just like
you could do this better. Yourtiming is off here, or this clip
doesn't look right into nitty gritty detailabout everything right, and I'm just like,
I'll do better. Speaking of criticismthough, on Amb's I remember getting
some two back in the day andwhen I was you know, when you're
like thirteen and fourteen, it's hardto get criticism. But yeah, so

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like in the moment, I wouldbe really but heard about it. But
then some of it was actually likegreat advice. And I remember one of
it was like, your timing isreally good, but your videos aren't telling
a story. Make sure yes,constructive criticism, yes, And and I
love that comment because I was like, oh, I get what they're saying
because I was just focusing on hittingthe beats, you know what I mean.

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They were like that that part isgreat, but if it's leaving it
empty because there's not like an emotionalconnection here, And then I yeah,
exactly, you know, and Ithink my videos got way better after that
because of that. Yeah, assoon as you start intertwining the clips into
a story you're creating, or justto base it off the lyrics in general,
it's it's a game changer for sure. Oh yeah, And I'm a

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big fan of the amvum format ofcontent creation because to me, it's it's
like, it's drag for people whocan't or are not able or do not
want to do real drag. Doesthat make sense? Yep? I get
because. And the way the reasonI make that connection is because part of

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the magic of drag is when they'reperforming, they are using their body in
the costume and their visuals and theirmovement to hit beats and tell a story
in the same way that you're doingit with an amv We're just representing it
with like anime and not our Body'sthe main difference. Really, it's to
a song, you know what Imean, it's still lip syncing, basic

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kind of. But yeah, soI love that format. Let's go into
what it's like to I don't dowe complete the like how you were creating
the videos? No, we didn'ttouchdown on that. I don't think.
Let's do that. So how didthat whole thing come together? Well?

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Creating it? As soon as Ilearned what I call Frankensteining editing, So
what what I taught myself to dowas dig through the footage and start looking
for body parts instead of scenes.As creepy as that sounds, I'm like,
wait, a sect, that armlooks pretty good. Let's take that
offer. And then like I hadlike folders of arms, legs, heads,

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hair movement, and then I justlike pieced them all together kind of
thing and made it something new withouttracing anything whatsoever. All I did was
maybe go in and tweak like abow or something in photoshop, and I
put it all together a frame byframe and photoshop and then imported it.
Like example, they're in Act three, there is a scene with Karai and

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Saya or Starfighter at a rooftop andyou can see Karai kind of like jumping
away when she's had enough of thatconversation. That actual movement is based off
of Sailor Neptune in in the thirdseason, and where she's jumping away,
I just use her body and Ijust kind of like Frankenstein's cellar moon parts

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that onto her. Sounds like itmust have taken a very long time.
It did. It did, butit was rewarding in the end. Like
I was one of the only oneswho did that within the project. Later
on I had like two other peoplebefore that, but they moved on with
their lives kind of thing, whichis which happened quite a bit, Like
people got busy, they're you know, got jobs or whatever took them in

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life's direction, right, yeah,yeah, it's it's It's funny. I
was thinking about that because you know, I have some other creative projects where
I'm building teams, and I wasliterally thinking about that exact thing, and
I'm like, I need to justget what I can from these people now
and appreciate as much as I canget out of them, because who knows
what's going to happen and next year, you know what I mean. And

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I need to also be ready topivots. No, for sure. As
as difficult as it was to putall those like Frankenstein bits together, the
people on the team that I commendthe most is the maskers because these girls
and boys would go in and maskus like two thousand plus frames For people

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who don't know what is that.What is masking King is it's cutting out
an image from the background, soto speak. So Sillerman intension. Anyway,
we took her out and left thebackground, so we just have her
and no background so we can puther on any background we want to.
We could manipulate her and anyway wewant to. With the end product.

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They're talking about the body of herwhen she's transforming the body. Yet I
have seen people do that in musicvideos all the time and wondered, like,
how to do it? It's it'sso, is it frame by frame?
It was frame by frame back whenwe were doing it, But later
on we actually brought on this veryyoung, very very talented editor and she

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told us, I think with AdobeDure Effects or Premiere, I'm not sure
which one it was, you canmask with a click of a button.
Now I have Premiere, I needto see if it's in there. If
not, I think I can getthe other one. But I'm not sure.
I'm not sure how totally accurate itis. It sounds right though,
honestly, with like the way technologyhas been moving, I would be shocked

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if that wasn't a thing. Yeah, I think it. I think it's
a very easy thing to do nowadays. And it just blows my mind how
these programs have evolved and developed,and it's it's it's crazy. What was
your program of choice back in theday? Um mostly Sony Vegas and then

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a lot of photoshops. Yeah,lots and lots of photoshop. I was
like movie maker, and we alsohad MovieMaker a movie maker. That's what
I first started using when I wasjust a young, little weak koe um.
But then yeah, I moved onto Sony Vegas. I've always always

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wished I went with Adobe Premiere instead, but always my computers at the time
couldn't even handle it. That's sofunny because it is. But I hear
Sony Vegas. I hear like alot of great things about it too.
And you made Monster with Sony Vegas, didn't you. Yes, there are
some effects and that that I couldn'tfigure out how to do, And there

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are a lot of them. Areare Sony specific. That would be but
not pursue you could. You couldduplicate them with other methods. I'm just
turning out in the back of myhead. I'm like, yeah, you
can do this, and Premiere,you can do that in Premiere. I'm
just playing the video frame by frameof my head right down. You know
it that well. I guess youmust have stared at it for hours when

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you made I did. Yeah,Okay, I could talk about amps for
a long time, so we haveto move on. But Sacrifice is available
on YouTube. Go ahead and checkthat out. And let's talk about the
manga or the manga a little likeI can never say it right, I
think it's manga. I think sotoo. Just like how my name is
pronounce It is supposed to be kawosu, not kaosu, but kaosu kao su

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is how you pronounce it, butoff the top better. Yep. My
nickname actually used to be cow dashsoup. That's cute. Who doesn't love
cow right? I'm seeing the harvestmoon cows in my head anyway. So
yeah, let's talk about the manga. What is the process for that?
And this is ongoing, right,Yeah, it's ongoing. So the process

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has changed now now star Seed andSky or Kiko, they're very heavily involved.
Now we've all become kind of partnersand they're just as important to the
project as I am. They arehelping me expand the story. We don't
progress in the story at all withoutall three of us having consented to the

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changes. We're developing new characters together. My favorite one right now is our
sailor Chew. I don't know ifyou know this movie but a Secret of
Nim Missus Brisbee. Yes, webase her design off of Missus Brisbee.
Oh, because it's Chew. It'smost it's yea and she she turned out
to be the my favorite favorite designso far. Like our our Fallen Sense,

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she have a very very unique designto them, but Chew by far
is the most adorable. I'm noteven joking. That gave me chills because
the Secret of Nim like you,it's all, it's it's one of my
very very favorite and that when youwatch I was like, what am I
feeling about that word? And thenyou referenced it right away that week.

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I love that. Um So,how long have you been working with this
team? Oh? Starcy came in, I say about midway through the editing.
I can't give you a yearly timeframe anymore. I don't even remember
what I did yesterday. Would yousay more than two or three years?
Oh? For sure, for sure. She's she's been with us for I

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say, about half the time.We've been out for what fifteen years or
so? She's been out with usfor about a half the time. So
this core group seems pretty stable thenfor the manga, Yeah, for sure.
We also have we have other peoplem within the group, but they're
not m they don't contribute to themanga, but they do contribute in other
ways. We uh like, wehave a dedicated person for Discord named Andy.

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She she created the whole thing,like that's her baby, and she
she runs it on our behalf kindof thing. We have Um one of
our old voice actors. They're helpingus with social media. We brought on
that Sillar Moon guy from TikTok andhe runs our TikTok account. So it's
it's pretty cool how we incorporate allthese people still. And we're also bringing

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on guest artists as well. Sowe'll do scenes one, two, three,
they'll do scene four. If theywant to come back for another scene,
they're more than welcome to or theycan join us permanently. It's it's
say, it's up to them inthe end. If someone wants to participate
as a guest artist, what howdo they go about contacting you? They
can shoot us an email at chaosaStudios at gmail dot com, give us

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some samples of their work and justshow us that they know understand anatomy and
clothing folds lighting, and if theydo struggle with some anatomy, that's fine,
like I do too. We're alwaysthere to help. Should they send
you any examples or samples or anything, absolutely, yeah, the more the
better, so we can get afeel of what their style is so we
can properly place them into what seatwould be suited best for them. Okay,

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Like right right now, we havea guest artist. I'm not going
to name her yet, but she'sgoing to be a surprise. She does
a lot of Starfighter Saya arts,so I ain't assigned her the scene where
Karai and Sayah meet for the firsttime in the past, So that's going
to be her baby, and I'mreally really excited to see what she has

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going for that. See, Itake a lot of inspiration from you because
you're doing a lot of the thingsthat I want to do eventually, which
is like have a team where Ican do something like that where I'm like,
hey, you're the animator, thisis what we need or whatever.
Yeah, Like it doesn't always workout that way. I mean, like
the core group, sure, likewe will coordinate ourselves. It's the guest

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artists are a little more finicky becausewe've had. We've asked people to come
on before and they just kind oflike disappear after they're given their assignment.
I would, yeah, but that'swhy I'm learning at this point. With
the Internet, I kind of puta buffer for that. No, for
sure, that's why we don't announceanybody until the work is right. That's
probably it's kind of like a babylike, let's get through ye for that

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first eight weeks. Yeah, thatmakes sense. But No, we're very
lucky and blessed to have the teamthat we have now. For sure,
a lot of talented people with us, and I've always been so lucky to
have that team behind me because there'sabsolutely no way I'd do this. I
could do this on my own.And I really commend the people who create

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anything yes with just themselves because theamount of time, effort, and love
that goes into it phenomenal. Itis. It's a lot. And I
feel like the same way to Chris, who is my co host on the
show. He does those celebrity interviewsthat he interviews voice actors, and he
built that whole thing completely by himselfand he's almost hitting interview three hundred in

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about two years. Wow. AndI commend that kind of thing. And
you know, I've been sort ofcreating my own content on my own off
and on for over the years andstuff too, and I know how hard
it is, And what would yousay, connecting with Chris is what helped
me with longevity because I felt responsibilitytowards another creator. Does that make sense?

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Yeah, And that helped me reallystick with the project. But I
think connecting with another person creatively itwas a really important thing for me.
Do you feel like that happened similarly? Absolutely? Absolutely, especially now it's
a manga, it's a I thinkmy daughter just turned like four, and
I was talking to Keiko and Iwas like, I'm watching these videos.

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I'm like, I missed this,right, I missed the girls, I
missed the guys, I miss Imissed the team, I missed the followers,
the interactions, I miss everything.And she's just like, well,
why don't we do something about that? I'm like, all right, yeah,
And then we kind of cooked upa plan of what we were going
to do. Then we're like,okay, we need a third party and
here, let's see with star Seeds. Up to not even five minutes of

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us asking her, She's like yes, let's go now, Like, all
right, girl, let's do this. I love that. It sounds like
a great group of with a lotof like good energy and for sure and
creativity flowing. Um, how oftenwould you say? Because I see it
pop up every now and then?But how often do you think new pages
of the manga you can get released? Roughly? Well, it's going to

(32:08):
depend on the artist. Like rightnow, I'm the slowest one just because
of my life's a bit different thaneveryone else. Like I got my full
time job, I have my childand yeah whatnot Keiko like she runs a
tattoo shop. She's in charge ofthat, so she's quite busy too.
Star Seed right now, she shehas a job that she goes to once

(32:30):
every year for about half a year. She works on a cruise line.
Okay, I've so, yeah,it's it's pretty cool. Actually she's a
nice stuff. Yeah, she's ashe's a chef there, I believe,
not not full chef but an assistant. I forget her title, but she
she works with the food. Andso it's hard for us to say when

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right, So it's more of arolling basis just as it comes through.
Yeah, that's why we're trying toget all the guest artists we can now
to get them prepared and get theirpages done. So when I finally catch
up, but can just be like, boom boom, boom boom, here's
the rest, because star Seed isactually done the next two one second,
sorry, guess honey, All right, she's ignoring me. We got a

(33:13):
new train, we got a newtrampoline. She's like, now that the
nets up, I could do whatever. I'm like, no, it's not
time to destroy the hopes yet.Where was I? Oh? We were
talking about the manga. How oftenis released? Oh? Right, right,
star Seed is actually done the nexttwo scenes aftermine, So once I'm

(33:37):
done, we can release that,plus the new cover for Act two and
then her scenes and then I thinkKeiko is not far behind with her scene
after that. So does that meanAct one as close to being complete?
Yeah? Yeah, it just hasone more scene to go and then it's
done. Okay, so most ofAct one is already available then, right?
Yeah? Oh yeah, we havefour scenes available up right now.

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That's on your face book? Correct? Yes? Is there not a place
where they can like click through it? Oh? Yeah, if you just
I think you just if you goto the gallery. I'll go to the
album, right yeah, yeah,sorry, the album. Just click Act
one and you can just hit yourarrows. We were also uploading on web
tunes or web tune, but itkind of distorted the images a bit,

(34:22):
or maybe I just didn't do thelayout correctly. I don't know. I'm
very new to publishing manga, sowe kind of stopped. I think around
scene two. I think we're goingto find another medium. Well, just
let me know if you don't haveanother one, or if you would like
to. On the Moonstar website,we have the bonus content section and I

(34:43):
have a creators spotlight there and Ipay monthly for that. I'm going to
keep doing that, but I canhost it on there if you want.
In the gather. Sure, that'dbe great temporarily and we get our website
up. Yeah, yeah, that'dbe awesome. Send me whatever you want
to put there, and I'll puta little section together and show you and
and we'll collab on that. Butthat way, yeah, it'll be like
high res images and everything. Yeahcool, thank you, Yeah, no

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problem. So the Sacrifice manga andthe Sacrifice animations, this is a continuation
after Sailor Stars. What made youdecide to keep going with the story,
Like how sacrifice came to be ingeneral? Yeah, well, it was
all kind of just a fluke.Like my friend and I were playing Fatal

(35:27):
Frame one day and my cat wascoming downstairs and knocked over something, and
we got freaked out because it wasa part where you know the Ring,
the movie, The Ring. Okay, well this looking character comes out of
a well, we're freaking out,right, and then my cat comes downstairs
and knocks over like one of mySailor Moon figurines, and we stop and
look at each other like, waita sec, wait a minute here,

(35:51):
And then we made this like trailerfor a sacrifice kind of kind of as
a joke, but then it kindof just took off, blew up,
and you just kept going. Wejust kind of kept going, and like
the original story is our original premisefor it was much much more different than
what it is now. But yeah, that that's pretty much how it all

(36:15):
started. Shut it off as ajoke and it picked up, And yeah,
I love that it was a jokein the beginning. And I think
that fact that the story changed shouldn'tbother you too much because I think that's
how it goes on a lot ofcases. Yeah, no, for sure
creatively. So the thing I'm justlaughing at is what why? What about

(36:37):
it made you go in a horrordirection? Yeah, that's that's validable.
Fetal Frame is a horror based game. It's a franchise actually, But I've
always loved horror, and I've alwaysloved the more serious sides of Sailor Moon,
and I've wanted to create my ownlike little more intense of a story

(37:00):
world kind of thing, like moreseriousness to it, more complex things happening,
more more gay relationships, more complexweird relationships between like mothers and daughters,
like actual family problems being brought in, you know, like serious,
heavy things is what I wanted tosee in Sailor Moon. So that's kind

(37:22):
of how I went with it.I think it's nice that you it's not
such a funny word to use forit, but I think it's nice that
he shows the horror genre to bringthat aspect through, because horror can go
either way. Sometimes it can belike campy and funny, but when it's
done in a really artistic, seriousway, it can be extremely emotionally compelling.

(37:45):
And I think that's kind of thedirection you're going right more so,
Yeah, Like at the in thebeginning, we're like, we're going to
make this really really scary, andthen we started editing, like we can't
do that. So now we're justgoing to be like fitting in like little
things here and there. We're gonnalike Stars showed me some images she cooked

(38:07):
up in there. They kind oflike mess with your head a little bit,
kind of give you that little shock, And that's kind of what I'm
looking for. It's not going tobe a consistent thing. It's going to
be just like a thing that's thrownin every once in a while. Now,
if you had to give it asubgenre of horror, could you do
that? Because I don't think itwould be not off the top of my
head, well, let's exclude something. I don't think it's gory, is

(38:29):
it. No, it's not goingto be. Um, It'll be just
as gory as the manga. Theoriginal manga itself, it's okay, thing
that had some dark moments and ittoo, It did it did It did
the kid? The one I'm thinkingof is I think Mars killing one of
the generals for some reason, becausethey just straight up and kill them.

(38:50):
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I remember Mars killing someone and
I was just like, oh,okay, I'll remember. Like in because
Crystal missed the mark with this one, there was like a kid that died
in our yeah, and the mangalike a random field no when the Dark
Moon was taking over, I believea Knackles showed like a kid dying or
melting or something like that didn't duplicatethat, and everyone was like, ah,

(39:16):
that's so just specific detail to bemad about. Right, Well,
that Crystal made a lot of likeweird different changes, and here's a spoiler
alert for season one, the wholeVenus Moon sword barrel thing was not done
in according to the manga, andevery a lot of people were just like,
ah, come on, I cansee why they would be frustrated by

(39:38):
that though, because Crystal, Ifeel like, made a lot of sacrifices
in a lot of areas, butin the name of we're going to be
true to the manga. But thenif you're not, why are you making
it so bad? I mean itis, but then there's just these little

(39:58):
tiny details that they don't cover,and it's like yeah, and then and
then I mean I don't know.I'm not much of a fan of Crystal
anyway. At this point you wentwith that art stell and you have the
audacity to change the story come ontoey right well, but we can talk
about that in more detail too.But I'm hoping that I come around with
Crystal when I cover it here.I am I'm forever not going to be

(40:22):
a fan of one to two three. I'm just like, they look like
Rhino's from the side. But Igot stuck in the middle of two before
I stopped because I heard two isbetter, and then I was like part
way through it and I was like, I sort of see how it's a
little better, but not really welljust I think I think mostly with the

(40:42):
transformations and that they looked really weirdand robotic and stiff. It just doesn't
sit well with me. It's agood example of the fact that there's something
innately, I don't know what tocall it, but there's something about like
when someone draws something by hand,like a human being, and they draw
each frame of it, there's acertain energy to that that you cannot duplicate

(41:07):
no matter how good the technology is, and it's almost like it's too perfect
or something if that's it, youknow, because you can kind of even
see it in I think the Cosmosmovie released, like Eternal, one of
Eternal Silliman's transformations, and it's alittle bit cgi you can tell, and
it just looks a little bit off. It's yeah, it's got to be

(41:28):
that because there's something about humans thatwe are all inherently like imperfect, right,
And so when you're looking at art, if there isn't a little bit
of an imperfection, it's like inherentit's not relatable. We're not symmetrical.
Yeah, there are, there's likeone or two human beings that are symmetrical.
Well that appears symmetrical until you getclose enough and see that they have

(41:50):
a drupe islet or whatever. Yeah. Like, I might not be talking
about myself, or maybe i am, but I'm just saying, oh,
one of my eyebrows is like oneentire than the other. It's weird.
Is there anything you want to addabout any of your creative projects here?
Ah? Not per se. Imean, I'm glad we're back, and

(42:12):
more so glad that our numbers aren'tas big as they used to be.
Guys, I love the smaller communityit's there's something so endearing about it,
you know, you get to connectwith people more. Can you talk about
that a little? What was theexperience like when you blew up and what
what made you make the choice tokind of reset. We blew up kind

(42:34):
of out of nowhere, and Ididn't really know how to handle it.
We had people creating blogs about us, creating YouTube accounts with our videos,
and just like you know, wewe were everywhere kind of thing in the
silver Moon YouTube community and kind ofbeyond. And it was it was really
overwhelming for me because we had alot of support coming in and we still

(42:57):
had some hate coming in. Wehad more criticism coming in, which helped
develop us to what we are today. But it was just it was too
much for me to keep up witheverything. And on top of editing and
all that stuff, I had tospend a lot of my time, like
on the social media platforms interacting,escalating or de escalating or you know,

(43:21):
just trying to find peace within thecommunity or defending ourselves defending someone else,
and it just it got so sotiring. It's a Solar Moon project,
guys, Come on, do youfeel more comfortable though, Like, let's
say you do blow up again,letting the conversations unfold as they do and
just deleting comments without interacting as necessary. Yeah, I mean, if we

(43:45):
got that big again, most likelythat's how it's going to go. Could
you also delegate that to your socialmedia person? No, gotcha, because,
like I said, they have livesoutside of this. They're they're they're
they're busy, We're we're all adultsnow, accomplished adults, and we have
other priorities other than this project.Right. This is just something that's on

(44:07):
our back burner these days, andthere's nothing I could really delegate unless I
brought someone on specifically for that.But at this point in time in our
age, like who's going to dosomething like that for free? That makes
sense. I do want to talka little about the episode your favorite episode
of Sailor Moon. Tell everyone whichone that is? All right? I

(44:30):
don't know the episode number, butit was Love and Chased Morna Luna's worst
day ever. It's probably the funniestepisode I've seen where Red Butler is the
star of this episode and he ishe is my spirit animal. Yes,
Red Butler or Hercules if you're inHercules, yes, and this was Kitty

(44:50):
Chaos, which coincidentally is actually comingout like two days from actually tomorrow,
it's coming out tomorrow. But tellus why you love this episode? Uh,
the humor of it all, um, Like in the beginning when Luna's
getting chased by all these cats andthis is like a little tiny cat biting
her tail, like I lose mymind every time. Um. Yeah.

(45:12):
But the animation is also gorgeous inthis episode two, even if it's meant
to be, even if it isa comical episode, it's just beautiful to
look at it really is. Wetalked a lot about that when we recorded
the coverage of it. What aresome of your favorite moments from this one?

(45:32):
Uh? Um? One of myabsolute favorites, of course is Luna
at the beginning. At second isZoyset getting chased by the rats, which,
by the way, did you knowtheir mice are they? Well in
the English they change them to ratsand the deu Oh okay, that's my
confusion, yeah, because they looklike mice, No rats, they're like

(45:57):
these little cute like they look likealmost um, the really old bulky computer
mice, do you know what Imean? Like the right look like that?
What Okay, what else do youwhich? What other moments do you
remember? Um, there was onepart just the girls. I think there
were there were in that little girl'sroom. I forget her name, but
like Osaki was like, oh mygosh, she's got the video game,

(46:21):
she's got the other v just like, yes, that's my girl, right,
um, and I think she startsplaying it does yeah, and everyone's
like doing their their scent. Sheduties. She's just like, nah,
this game is more important, exactly, Ladies and gentlemen, you're a moon
for incess, right, That's whatmakes her so endearing right up. Also

(46:46):
pretty much it was at Venus orno, it's Jupiter. No, who
showed up. It was at themon the bike. That's Mars Mars right
right. And uh, just justthe fluidity of the animation, the direction
of it, and of course mypersonal favorite Hercules is or Rehet Butler's big
old blushing face at the end scene. It just it's just the best episode.

(47:10):
Do you remember the first time yousaw it? Yeah, probably when
I was a kid, when itwas first airing in the nineties. It
probably didn't have a huge impact onme back then. I probably just thought,
oh, this is really cool episode. But as I got older,
I started reviewing and watching the CellarMoon footage almost every day looking for stuff

(47:30):
that just this one always went inthe back of my head, like this
is this is the one for me, this is the one I remember having
a bad day, I'll just popthis on and you know, fun a
little joy in my life that day. It's perfect for that. As far
as season one goes, it's it'sit's such a perfect episode because it's a
convergence of some of the best animationin season one with some of the best

(47:54):
humor in season one, with afantastic one episode character that is fleshed out
without him ever saying a word,and we get a lot of character development
with Luna, and we get ab story with Ray who the whole episode
is just like wandering around the cityon her own. Look like, look

(48:17):
at I forgot about that. That'sright. She's like she's like essentially out
trying to hook up or something.And then it just shows up on a
bike to save these cats. Andit's like, if if Sailor Moon didn't
have to heal hercules, they probablywould have just had her be the Olique
scout to do the Battle I thinkso. It's just it's such a unique

(48:39):
episode and it's so freaking funny.Every beat is done is like hit perfectly.
If you guys are going to watch, like if you're looking for an
episode that will like just hit awhole bunch of notes all at once.
Kitty Chaos, Love and Chase,Luna's Worst Day Ever, the episode twenty

(49:00):
seven for the Deep, episode thirtyone for the Japanese or whatever other version
you're watching. Probably what are yourLet me ask you, just because we've
covered all of your stuff, letme just ask you fan questions now,
sure, what's your favorite season?Oh? Are definitely are the second one,

(49:23):
because growing up as as a kidwithout any like access to what Silar
Moon actually was, it gave youa peak the past one. I'm not
talking about the the Alien arc orwas it Returns in Romance, I don't
forget you mean Doom Tree series orthe fourth Yes, the Doom Tree about

(49:43):
it, not at all. I'mtalking about the one after that, the
one where Chibiusa comes in um.It gave you a glimpse of what Sillar
Moon was going to be, andit was just this whole mystery shrouded in
the future, and kind of likeseason one where the past was the big
mystery, it still is to thisday, like there's so much we don't
know about the past in the futureif you don't bring Crystal and the manga

(50:07):
into consideration, which at the time, watching it for the first time,
I had no idea existed, right, So that feeling of wonder and mystery
is still there with me for thatseason. I think that's a fabulous answer,
Thank you, And it brings somethingup that I think I've brought up

(50:29):
on the show maybe once before,But being a fan of Sailor Moon back
in that time was a labor oflove, because, like you were saying,
you couldn't just go watch the wholething. It was. Our access
to it was so limited that mostof what we did was take what we
could get from the show, maybethe manga if we had access to it.

(50:50):
Maybe some of us had a fewcards or whatever, and then everything
else was imagination. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. And in today's culture,
for kids who are our age whenwe were discovering Sailor Moon, now anything
it's not even just like restricted toSailor Moon. It's literally anything you can
get all of it at once.On the Internet, typically you can binge

(51:10):
it all in one day. There'sno reason to wait for the story,
all of the information, all ofthe backstory, how it's created, It's
all on a Wikipedia somewhere, Soit's kind of like there's literally no more
mystery about anything that's right, andthat kind of takes the magic away,
in my opinion, a little bit. Yeah, but Sailor Moon itself still

(51:34):
has this magical pull towards people,even considering it's all available at say a
new fan's fingertips. There's something soendearing and what's the word I'm looking for.
It's not the same the same thoughit isn't It isn't. And I
think that's what makes Sailor Moon uniquebecause the deek dub is almost impossible to

(51:57):
get now unless you know what tolook for, which would be the VHS
and the DVD or I am sohappy I have a really good soft copy
it, you know what I mean. Though it is it's very it's very
hard to get, so that sortof thing, if you're trying to get
that in its entirety, it issort of still a labor of love.
And then there are so many differentiterations of it, and I feel like,

(52:22):
specifically in Sailor Moan, the contentcreation is very strong, so you
can still kind of take it anywhereyou want, you know what I mean?
Absolutely, I think there's probably sometruth to that in other fandoms.
I just don't know them as well. Oh yeah, Like I'm also part
of the Nerudeau fandom, and thereare projects kind of like ours who make

(52:43):
continuations and some of them are great, some of them are outlandish, But
that's the beauty of fan fiction,right, It's whatever you want it to
be. Yeah, exactly. Didyou have a favorite Scout when you were
younger and did it change as yougot older? It's always kind of Moon,
just because like she's just something abouther, her personality that just draws

(53:05):
me to her and her her ADHDtendencies. I'm like, yeah, that's
me, and she's somebody who i'dwant to be friends with. She's somebody
I would go out of my wayto protect, you know, She's that
kind of person. It did changeinto Uranus as I got older, because
big gay right, Oh god,she got me good. The first time

(53:31):
I actually saw it, Uranus wasyeah, our was on repeat there Season
one, Season two, were onrepeat on all the English channels because they
didn't dub the last second to sorrythe third and fourth seasons yet. And
my friend got me this like reallybad bootleg vhs of the Supers movie,

(53:52):
and that was the first time Isaw Uranus. I much like, oh
my god, what is this?First of all, why does silar Moon
look like this? Second of all, who's that pink haired? Or not
pink hair? But why is ChibiMoon? Or why is Renie now a
sailor? And I had so manyquestions. I'm like, what's going on
here? At least Pluto made itout of where she was great anyway,

(54:15):
you just yeah, you're going ButI want to touch on that in a
second. Yeah. The more Ijust looked into her and her personality,
like the dominant aspect of it,and how flirtatious she is, I'm just
like, oh my goodness, gracious. Yeah. So yeah, she is
my definite second favorite from Saggi.Uranus is definitely a handsome woman. Yes,

(54:36):
I remember the episode when she appearsand Serena and Mina are like freaking
out because they think it's a hotguy. Right, Yeah, I like,
isn't that like there was some memeabout it where it's like I can't
tell if it's like a lesbian ora cute guy. And isn't that just
like the LGBT community where it's likelesbians are looking at a fem eye and

(55:00):
they're like, it's not you knowwhat I mean? And it's like this
weird what am I looking at?Intersection? Um? And I think it's
funny because that just to me aslike, you know, I could relate
to that a little bit because I'vedefinitely met women before where I'm like,
well, you're kind of a lady, but also there's something going on here

(55:21):
that's interesting, know what I mean, Like I don't know, Yeah,
it's interesting, And I love thatvibe about her specifically, did I'm kind
of curious why Neptune didn't draw yourattention because of her Ruka is like masculine

(55:42):
I guess appearance and her her abilityto to fluidly change appearances and be comfortable
with herself and still look amazing.I hear that, so to speak,
and like it just again her personalityto Neptune's the same attraction, wasn't there,
Like it's weird for me to sayI was attracted to an anime character.

(56:04):
But I think that's normal. Ithink we're like I feel like we're
supposed to be embarrassed about that,but I think millennials and beyond, I
think that's just it. That's howit is. Fair enough. The Neptune
just didn't have the same kind ofdraw that Uranus had for me, even
though I think she's still cool ashell. Were you ever? Nope,

(56:25):
I totally. If I was alittle, like I was a little you
know, and I was like intoher, I'd be like, mmm,
Neptune. No, I think they'rethey're definitely the perfect pair. Knockle wrote
their personalities perfectly. No, they'rethey're one of the best. They're actually
noted as one of the best representationsof a eurie couple ever in anime history,

(56:46):
as they should be. Yeah,speaking of, we're going to be
doing a Moon Pride special this summeras part of the Like Pride Month where
we discuss like LGBT connections and representationand sailor Moon can you give can we
talk a little bit about it hereand I'll just put that in the episode.
Yeah, Okay, Um, soyou just I'll use some of what

(57:07):
you were just telling me. Butare you do consider yourself part of the
LGBT community. I do, yes, Okay. When what other parts of
sailor Moon would you say were importantto your journey in that way? Well?

(57:28):
When was Zoisite and was it Malachite? Yes? What's his name,
Chap. That's when I found outZoisite was actually a man. It it
was like, finally, everything makessense. All my thoughts I was having
about them are not wrong. Youknow, I feel like justified now.
I feel I feel better about howI was thinking, even as a kid,

(57:51):
right, because I was a littleconfused. I didn't like the whole
LGBTQ thing. Community was not athing growing up. It wasn't a welcome
thing. It was it was ashunned upon thing. So when I had
these thoughts, it was Yeah.When I had these thoughts, so I'm
like, is something wrong with me? But when it was actually confirmed that
it's supposed to be that way,I'm just like, Wow, I'm normal.

(58:13):
I'm perfectly fine. Yeah, becauseit was beat in not beat into
us, but you know what Imean, right, Aunt, it was
Yeah. So but even from that, like, our main character is gay
as well, because yeah, ohyeah, Kurai is gay. Her first
like this wasn't disclosed before, buther first crush and first love is actually

(58:37):
urate us. Is that a littlebit of a nod for you? Yeah?
But but and then she she meetsStarfighter and then they do fall in
love, and that like we kindof tie into have that having a Fighter
kind of crush on Osagi as hardas she did, we kind of tied

(58:58):
into She was reminded of Kurai somuch, but she couldn't put her finger
on it kind of thing. Ilove that connection. I was going to
say, it also gives Starfighter ahappier Yeah, Roman, absolutely Starfighter deserves
the world, so I'm giving itto her. I agree with that for
sure. You actually continue, youlike put some more representation of it into
your own continuation of the show,which I love. Yes, yeah,

(59:22):
No, there's so much just pouredinto the show. And specifically, like
you were saying, I don't knowif the culture in Japan at that time
was wildly different from where the wayit was here, but to have the
courage to put that much into anythingat that time was a lot. It
had to have been different. Ithad to have been for them to actually

(59:45):
portray to gay couples openly, likethat. But the funny thing is,
though, like from what I understand, actually being gay in the Japanese community
still shunned upon. However, itwas completely okay in the media. That's
why I'm confused, because I knowthat it's still that because I was a

(01:00:07):
documentary I was watching one time abouta transgendered person in Tokyo and I think
this was a fall as like maybefive years ago, and they're saying it's
still quite difficult to exist, yes, as as a trans person or gay
or a gay person or anything inbetween in Japan right now, even though

(01:00:28):
it's misleading that in the media it'sokay that, Yeah, that would be
very confusing. Yeah, and alsoit's a very strange and mysterious culture.
I mean it is. I waswatching a video on how they quote fixed
their homelessness thing too, and likethat's really dark and we don't even need
to talk about it. But I'mjust like, I mean, I'm sure
there's plenty of things about it thatwe don't understand. Um, that sounds

(01:00:50):
like a d M kind of conversation, right, but no one's so interesting
though, But yeah, it's it'sfor us seeing something like that in media
in America at the time was completelyunheard of. The culture. Yeah.
I don't know about you, butwhen I was in school, the culture
was still anything that you didn't like, Oh, that's so gay, and

(01:01:14):
then oh yeah, any guy whowas at all anything that you were trying
to insult? What at f ag? Yep? That was literally I could
I can't count them tell you,like, every day how many times I
got called something like that. Andthe funny thing about that is I've had
younger LGBT friends, like in theirearly twenties, and I've told them about

(01:01:37):
that before, and the reactions issort of like, why do you why
are you still upset about it?And why why do you get mad if
I say that word? And I'mlike, oh, because these people won't
actually wanted to kill me, likeyeah, Like it wasn't just like,
oh we don't like you. It'slike if we had the chance, we
would, Yeah. And it's it'sbizarre that I guess I shouldn't think it's

(01:02:01):
that bizarre, but they just grewup in a world where that wasn't happening,
you know. Yeah, No,I get you. I like when
when I was younger, my parentsmoved me out to this like a rural
backwoods kind of area, and Icompletely understand what you're talking about. It's
it's they were raised that way.I mean nowadays, Like I have spoken
to a few of them now thatyou know, we're twenty years down the

(01:02:23):
road, and they're like, ohmy god, right, I can't believe
I said these things or I didthese things. I'm like, it's okay,
you know, it's you circumstantial atthe time, you were raised to
think this way, you were raisedto behave this way, and you we
just want them developed into a betterperson. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
some have, some haven't. Imean, it's it is what it is.

(01:02:44):
But I can't win them all,right. Well, and also whenever
I get, you know, confrontedwith that type of thing, I always
remind myself, like, they can'tcontrol the house they were born into anymore
than I can, right, right, So they have a whole over many
years of whatever their parents forced intotheir brain, just like we all do,
like yeah, kicking around in there. So but yeah, it really

(01:03:07):
the reason I bring that up isthat I think it's lost on the lgbtwo
youth today of how hostile it was, how recently like it really was not
that long ago. Have you seenthe new Sheira. I've heard of it
and I heard it. It's fat, like super gay and I love that.

(01:03:29):
The gayest thing I've ever seen inmy life, and I love it.
They actually they actually released part oneor season one and two on DVD,
and I was lucky enough to snagit, But they haven't released the
other half, and I'm not surethey will because I'm so scared when it
leaves Netflix, if it's even stillthere, that I'm never going to be
able to see it again. SoI write a hard copy so bad.

(01:03:51):
Yeah, yeah, I do thattoo, so I do have the first
hard copy. I missed the dollswhen they came out, and the dolls
are super cute. But yeah,that's right. That That is Another thing?
Is I think Algae or I thinkSailor Moon helped pave the way,
at least in American culture, inNorth American culture, for a lot more
of that to come through, don'tyou feel I think so. I think

(01:04:14):
so because we all saw Sailor,Neptune and Uranus for what they were,
and we know we know now thatlike the censorship that was done wasn't even
like what the studio wanted. Itwas a law in Canada, and that's
exactly it. When it comes tothe Deep Depp, Everyone's like, oh,
they forcefully did this, this andthis. I'm like, no,

(01:04:34):
no, no, no, no, it's it's a cultural thing. It
was laws in place. It's notjust because they wanted to ex out the
gay community. It's not because ofthis. It's it's simply all a legal
matter. Yeah, and nobody wantsto listen to that. Nobody, well
people sometimes not everybody, but thereare people who need a flag. I

(01:04:55):
exaggerated, Sorry, but I justhad this conversation lay with someone and they
just didn't care what I had tosay. Right, I'm just like all
right. It is very frustrating though, And that is one of those things
where it's like again, more likewhy are we fighting about this? Like
why are you attacking us about this, especially when it's coming from people who
like I am sure that you haveyour resources. My resource for this is

(01:05:20):
the fact that Chris spoke with SusanRobin and she told him about it,
do you know what I mean?Like, he spoke with the people who
were there and they gave us theinformation. And I'm like, if that's
not good enough for you, thenI don't know what you want. I
mean, a lot of it iscommon sense to just look at the culture
at the time. It's hard todo if you weren't there, though.

(01:05:43):
That's true, That is very trueactually, because I think a lot of
people just don't have that maybe thetime or the energy. Honestly, yeah,
yeah, if you were there,you understood it a little more like,
yeah, yeah, you're right,you're writing in fact. Well,
and I have to it's frustrating though, I have to remember myself of that
because it's like, wait a second, because it's it's such a bizarre feeling

(01:06:04):
of like we remember being the worldbeing a certain way and it's not that
way anymore. And then when you'redealing with young people who refuse to acknowledge
that the way the world used tobe happened. But did we not do
the same thing? And that's whythat's what I was getting too. I'm
like, and I feel like wedid the same thing to our parents.
We did. I'm so apologetic tomy mom these days. I remember when

(01:06:27):
I said that I'm sorry, rightright, It's it's I think it's a
full circle thing. Well, it'slike my kid now, like she's like,
Mommy, I don't want to listento your music because kids are not
supposed to like what adults like.I'm like, you're five years old spewing
that at me. Come on,kid, Never my students say that,
and I'm just like, listen.The most important thing you can do is
have your own genuine preference. That'sit, right, like what you like

(01:06:51):
and screw everyone else. I feellike the Sailor Moon in the nineties having
it there. It was representation fora lot of us, but it was
also kind of like a source ofstrength to push through a time that was
fairly dark still in that way,yeah, especially since we were still trying

(01:07:11):
to make sense of our own feelings, right, we were still developing that
and coming into our own Yeah,and a lot of us probably were hearing
like a lot of mixed messages fromeverything. Yes, yes, and so
seeing even Urina said Neptune, justbeing like two women who were so devoted
to each other, even if theywere portrayed as cousins, it's kind of

(01:07:35):
like, oh, it's just itshows you that there were other options out
there exactly, and that is actuallyvery important. So I will always be
grateful to Sailor Moon for being anLGBT inclusive show. I'm sure you feel
the same way. Yes, Itoo. But before I forget Sailor Moon,

(01:07:57):
the Super s movie. This moviemovie was dubbed by the Deep people,
which means it came out like youwere saying, before seasons three and
four, there was a unique timefor us who used to go to Blockbuster
and such and rent these movies,where like you were saying, we saw
these outer Scouts, and we sawa Sailor Chimby Moon, and we saw

(01:08:19):
Super Sailor Moon before we knew whatthe hell that was. Right, that
was a very odd moment in SailorMoon history, don't you think. More
so was finding like cards and stufffrom stars too. I remember seeing Eternal
Sailor Moon for the first time andfreaking out. It was just like this

(01:08:41):
little card that I had. Idon't even know where I got it from,
but I remember I'm a bit dyslexic, right, So I called her
Ethral Sailor Moon for the lookest time. And then when I finally watched the
anime there like HeLa Moon, I'mlike, oh shit, that's okay.
I used to spell Angela's angles sodon't worry about it. There you go.

(01:09:05):
But no, it was just mindblowing because we'd had no idea what
was happening, and just seeing thesenew things come out and so many questions,
so so many questions, no answeris available. It was a really,
really it was a well executed movie, that's for sure. Do you
have a favorite of the three movies? Um? Probably are. It's hard

(01:09:28):
to choose. What makes the storyline, the animation. There's something about a
Saggy in that movie where you seelike real raw emotions like that that you
see in the finales that just doesn'thappen in the other two movies, especially
when her friends are like right infront of her getting hurt and she just

(01:09:50):
she gives up everything for their return, right. You don't really see that
in the other movies. There isn'tthat portrayal of Saggi in there, and
I think it's one of the firsttimes we see I don't actually remember right
now at the top of my headif this happens in the season of sailor
Munar, But there is that momentwith the Crystal where they're like, you're

(01:10:11):
going to die if you do that, and she's like I'm gonna do it
anyway. Does that happen? Yeah, well, that was, yes,
it I don't yeah, well,I don't know if they know it's going
to kill her. They say ityou'll die. In the English Deek they
do say that in season one,no um, in season once she's fighting
alone. So at the end,I know, but Luna is on Earth.

(01:10:36):
Luna and Artemis are on or ather house because they but I don't.
I don't think they know at thispoint that the crystal would kill her
if she used it to that extent. I think that they might have added
that into the Deek to like heightenthem. Maybe I don't remember. It's
been so loud. Also though,in the Deep version The Power of Love,
that song so good oh and areYeah yeah, the Sali Munar movie

(01:11:00):
The Girl who Sings It, sheactually still performs the song once in a
while for events and whatnot. Ineed to find some videos of that.
Absolutely she did a performance I thinkwith an orchestra too. There's a Sarah
Symphony. I think she might collaboratedwith them. I'm not too sure,
but yeah, she's still very muchactive. I'm going to look for her

(01:11:20):
and I'll post some links that soundsfantastic. It's Jennifer cheehe I believe because
I'm pronouncing that. I don't thinkI'm the only one. But that song
is one of the most iconic thingsspecifically from Deeke Moon. To me,
it's just like it sticks to mybrain. And also I noticed at the
end of that movie the way thatit's like all of that happens. We

(01:11:43):
think she died, and then shecomes back right surprise, and then but
then what she says, she's like, when I say everything's going to be
all right now, you'll believe meor whatever it is, You're like,
you'll listen to me from now on. And then it goes straight into that
song and everyone's crying. Every timeI've seen I'm just like, your chest
starts fluttering, you start blubbering.Even though I know it's going to happen,

(01:12:06):
I'm just like, oh, it'sfine. That's like every finale.
I get like that. Every finale. It's weird because you can't control an
ether. I don't know what itis because you know what's going to happen,
but they're right. I think there'ssomething about the music of Sailor Moon.
I am so glad you brought thisside because I thought I was the

(01:12:26):
only person who experienced that. No, it gets me every freaking time.
It's a weird, involuntary body thingthat happens with me. It is,
And it's almost like you forget,but you don't because you'd like, do
you know what I mean? Likeyou know, but it still feels like
it's happening for the first time.Almost. Yeah, so bizarre. Um
yeah, the Sailor Moon our moviegets a lot of points for that.

(01:12:48):
For me. Um, I couldn'teven pick a favorite right now. I'd
have to think about it too much. All right, listen, I have
I like every movie they're all butyeah, yeah, favorite villain. Oh
that are we talking Big Bads orMonster of the Days? Oh my god,

(01:13:14):
I don't know the Phantom, thedream Phantom guy that we used in
episode one, like from Sailor nR. Yeah, okay, he has
the coolest design. He actually lookedthreatening as opposed to the other you know.
Um, just knowing like the BigBads, just knowing how they came

(01:13:40):
to be and stuff. They're allkind of like they're all kind of like
the same to me anyway. Idon't have a preference on which villain was
bigger and matter. I do feelfor Beryl. I, um, yes,
I think she has the most humanstory one she does, although doctor
Tomo his story with oh yeah,you know what, come to think of

(01:14:01):
it. Yeah, I think he'smy favorite. I think he actually has
the more human because he knew theevil he was letting in, but he
was like, the alternative is thatI lose my daughter? Yeah, and
he was like, I don't knowwhat else to do. And I think
that's something that's relatable. And thenit always makes me wonder, like now

(01:14:24):
that the Outers kind of became thisfamily, does he ever come around right?
Because we see they show up forbirthdays or all cute in the wheelchair?
I forgot, yeah, and likedoes he does he come over for
birthdays? Like? Do they hangout? I like to imagine that he
got better enough to like but helike doesn't remember everything, So now he's

(01:14:47):
just like the possibility they wiped hismemory or something. Yeah, now he
just like works at a school casuallyand like he likes to go to the
waffle house. I don't know,Like I I love to imagine that he
turned into like a boring person becauseI'm being God he went through it.
Yeah, and Sailor Moons is sointense. Um yeah, it's definitely my

(01:15:13):
second favorite season. That was myfavorite season. Shifts all the time.
I can never stick to one.It depends on, like what's going on
in my life kind of you know, that's fair. Any monsters of the
day that do stand out to you? Um oh, there's so many that
are just so outlandishly ridiculous, likethe one with a tire and its chest,

(01:15:36):
or like the one that's in aunicorn. Oh, the sneaker one,
like what are they smoking? Like, come on, the kangaroo,
the kicker. They really do thevery wild they do. They do really
cool. Do you have a favoriteformat? Four? Like the monsters,

(01:15:59):
because like in season one we hadthe Yoma that were just negaverse monsters,
but then they had like the rainbowcrystal ones, right, and then we
had how they make the diamond podsin two different objects. Do you have
a favorite format? Uh, I'dsay, you know what, even though
the cardiss ones, the Cardians.Yeah, the Cardians, that's cute.

(01:16:20):
Those those are cool. I likethose. I liked how Alan would have
Anne choose the Cardian. Yeah,it was like pick a card, any
card, and then she's like,I want that one. They were they
were pretty, uh they were.Some of them were cool looking, some
of them weren't. But they allseemed like they were actually a threat.
You know what I mean? Theydid and actually know that you mentioned it.

(01:16:42):
Something I love about the Doom Treeseries is the episodes and the moments
where the four Inners use their likepowered up version of their original ability are
all really fantastic. Like the Jupiterthunder Dragon episode is so great, and
the Venus with the kids and SailorMoon fighting on the boon. There was

(01:17:03):
Mercury with saving kids. Yes,the way she hits the bubbles freeze,
and that is my vocal reference forone of my projects because it's so good.
Um. But yeah, all right, do you have any other like
big thoughts on Sailor Moon you wantto add or anything with Crystal Like as

(01:17:24):
much as I disliked the first twoseasons and iffy about the third, I
am so glad that it's back fora new generation to enjoy, like the
spirit of It's still alive. That'sprobably the greatest thing to happen in this
community in years. I have toagree with that, and yeah, I'm
just I'm just happy that you know, our our beloved Moon Princess is still

(01:17:46):
around and she she's not going anywhere. She's going to be around for a
long time. And that's that's somethingcomforting almost, you know what I mean.
It is because and I was thinkingabout this too, even if our
favorite isn't Crystal, the kids orthe New Generation or whoever finds it from
Crystal and E turn on all ofthat, they're going to hopefully start digging

(01:18:09):
right and then they're going to findall of the other stuff that is there
in the sailor moone. Oh,there's so much to discover now, like
you got I know, you said, like the mystery's gone now, but
it's still kind of isn't because there'sso much to dig into. That is
a really good point, is thatthe avenue from which you enter the fandom,
I guess, can just be consideredyour starting point these days, and

(01:18:29):
then you can kind of make yourown pathway through. Yeah, because you
got you got the manga, yougot the anime, you got Crystal,
you got the games, you gotPGSM, you got the musicals, you
got the fan made works. Let'ssay let's touch on PGSM for a second.
Have you seen all of it?Yes, okay, I think PGSM

(01:18:54):
is probably my favorite non mainline thingthat of Sailor Moon that's ever happened.
But tell us about it. Whatis it? It's it's power Rangers in
miniskirts. Uh, it's uh,it's it's live action Sailor Moon with plush
Luna who talk, who is sometimescgi but not always and transforms into a

(01:19:16):
little girl. Yes, it's it'sit's a I like the unique story.
I like the adaption of it.It's very very campy and cheesy. I
can only watch it once, soit has it's really good serious moments too.
But still the live action thing justinteresting. It makes me laugh.

(01:19:36):
It is the most ridiculous thing you'llever see. But then the ending is
so every dark it is actually it'slike really really silly, super duper silly.
And then I'm not going to givespoilers. I'm just gonna say it's
like cancer, the entire world isblown up like or what. I don't
ever even remember exactly how it ends, but it's something like that, and

(01:19:59):
you're just like oh, oh wow. Oh And then okay, and there's
like a dark one and you're like, why, well, oh okay,
Jesus like it. Just it's thestoryline is so freaking wild. It is.
It's a roller coaster, that's forsure. Like I do like the
character development and I can actually likethese crystal locks that so much, but
understandably so. Um, I'm notfaulting it for that. It's just it's

(01:20:24):
it's cool to see the characters developin different storylines and timelines, alternate universes,
what have you, what it wearwhatever you want to label it as,
but no, it's it's it's endearingin its own way. Just not
something I could watch again. It'sI think it's so wildly interesting. Um.
And like you're saying, yeah,it's something that if you're watching it,
don't take it as like this isthe new canon for the show,

(01:20:45):
no or whatever. No, it'ssomething to be fun and if you like
sailor Moon and you're looking for likea good time, it is definitely worth
yeah to watch for sure. Um, the musicals, have ever seen any
of them? I've watched a few. A lot of my favorite songs are
actually from the musicals. I haven'twatched them, like start to finish,
but I have seen like the Skitsfavorite favorite song, Uh the Last Change?

(01:21:12):
Which musical is that one from?Do you know? I don't remember.
It had to have been a Starsone. I think the original actress
who sang the song did pass away. Um it was Eternal Sailor and I
don't remember exactly which one it is, but it did appear in a couple
of musicals I think. Okay,but yeah, there's a upbeat version and

(01:21:33):
there's a slower version of the song, and it's it's a gorgeous song.
Do you know if anyone has subtitledany of the musicals? Oh, I
think they're all subtitled at this point. I think Miss Dream might have them.
She has everything she does. Ireference people to her all the time.
Yeah, because I'm just like,because when I'm looking at something that

(01:21:54):
I got that's cool, I'm like, should I scan this? I bet
Misdream has it? And then Igot back and like, yeah, yep.
Or who else? Um? ThreeLights dot Net I think it is
or dot com. Not sure.They have like these really really nice illustrations
you don't find anywhere else. Theyget their hands on these really cool things
that you've never seen before. Sodefinitely check them out. I haven't heard

(01:22:15):
of them. I need to checkthem out. Oh they have like you
know, what is it Mini Tokyowith the scans and whatnot? Oh Mini
Toka? Is it Mini Tokyo?See any Tokyo anime? Wallpaper scans and
more so. Yeah, they're they'revery hq um pieces of art from sailor
man like anything scanned. It's likereally really high resolution. It's like all

(01:22:36):
official art like from advertisements or whateveryea, or or really good, really
really good fan art like I'm talkinglike professional grade fan art that's cool is
available there as well. But ThreeLights has these. They have bookscans,
media scans, trading cards, stationaryitems, anything you can really think of
they have. They also have thedo jinshi, like the Japanese fan made

(01:23:02):
mangas. They had quite a fewof those as well. That's I didn't
realize that, but I guess thatis what those are. They're just fan
maade mangas. Yeah, they are, essentially, and that's what you're doing.
Yep. That's an interesting Well,I think it's been I think we've
covered everything read through this. Yeah, oh, are you recruiting right now?

(01:23:28):
Besides just artists? I know wetalked about that, but go ahead
and talk about that artists. Forsure, we are recruiting. That's one
hundred percent what we need the most. Aside from that, we we could
use a little bit more help inthe discord. It's not a very active
discord, very small community, butwe could use someone who's in there,
just like starting conversations, shooting withpeople kind of thing. We could also
use someone to aid us with maybestoryboards, because we yes we can draw,

(01:23:54):
yes we're coming up with the story. But there's something unique about someone
who's very in depth with mangal layoutsand storyboarding and all that stuff, just
to help make things flow better kindof thing. And yeah, so if
they want to reach out for that, remind them again how to do that.
Sure, our email address Chaos Studiosat gmail dot com is a good

(01:24:16):
place to go. The best placeto get a quicker response would be too
message us through our Facebook directly andone of us will see it and respond
when we can. I think that'show I got in contact with you.
You emailed me, did I YEAthough you didn't remember because you didn't know
our Facebook was active, remember,Oh yeah, I could have maybe found
you on Facebook after that. Ithink that's probably what it was, because

(01:24:41):
I know on the YouTube it saysyour animations are discontinued at this time.
Yeah, and we still get commentslike when are you going to finish?
Like, guys, can people wantthe content give it to that now?
I'm just kidding. They do,I mean they do. Well. I'm
excited to see everything that you guysdo in the future and whatever direction that
ends up going, if it's manga, which I'm sure that's going to continue

(01:25:02):
for a long time. If youdo decide to get into videos again,
even if it's like a different formator whatever, definitely come back and update
us sometime, I hope for sure. I just want to say thank you
for doing this. You are veryfirst content creator Spotlight, and I've wanted
to have people on in this formatfor a while, so I appreciate you

(01:25:24):
spending your time to do this Myabsolute pleasure. Is there anything you want
to leave the fans with, Well, guys, be nice to each other.
That part. We're all here forthe same thing, we all love
the same thing. Just let's leaveit at that. Yeah, I agree.
I think that's a nice sentiment.And and we're creating this content out

(01:25:45):
of love for the show and sharingit with you so that if you want
more, it's there, but it'salso you don't If you don't like it,
you don't have to participate in it. Right that's it. Well,
it's been absolutely fantastic. Thank youso much, and I will send you
over. Thank you everybody for listeningto our first ever Moonstar Spotlight right here

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Thanks again to our guest Kowsu Studios. It was an absolute blast talking
to you. It's been great gettingto know you. We would love have
you come back on the show sometime. We've already got some ideas, so
you know, pay attention. DMScoming your way. And just a few

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I will tell you again. Theyare recruiting, so make sure you check
our links in the episode description.If you're interested in joining the Kowsu Studio
teams and helping with the production andcontinuation of Sailor Moon Sacrifice, go ahead
and do that. Also, besure to follow them on all the socials

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