Kitty Chaos

When three people can agree that this is possibly their favorite episode of Sailor Moon ever, you know you have to tune in for every detail. Kitty Chaos brings it hard this week. Comedy, high quality animation, and more cats than the eHarmony Cat Video Girl could wish for. Meet Kaosu Studios in a special preview of our Moon Star Spotlight Special conversation, coming out later this June! There's so much to dig into this week, you won't wanna miss it!

Title (English): Kitty Chaos
Title (Japanese): Love and Chased: Luna's Worst Day Ever
Original Air Date (NA): October 5th, 1995
Original Air Date (Japan): November 7th, 1992

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
This is my first attempt at ae harmony video. I'm nervous, but
I'm excited at the same time.So I'm just gonna start talking about what
I like. I like. Ilove cat. I love every kind a
cat. I just want hung Ohmom, but I can't get ug every

(00:21):
cat, get up every cat.So anyway, I am a cat lover,
and I'm not to run. I'msorry. I'm being about cats again.
I really love cats. I'm thinkingabout cats again and again and again

(00:43):
and again and again. I thinkabout how many don't have all I know
I should have some. I thinkabout hunking there and over ears and the
whiskers and the nose. I justwant them. What am I want them

(01:03):
and I want to be and onelittle both times, I just want them
what am I want them to beon a rainbow and in my path and
I just want to stroll around,to roll around, round around. Sorry,
I'm being equal. I love cat, I love every kind of cat.

(01:23):
I just want to hug, ohmom, but I can't cannot every
cat, cannot every cat do anyway, I am a cat lover, and
I got to run. I'm sorry, I'm being about cat. I give
I really love cat, but Icannot. Every cat cannot, Every cat

(01:53):
cannot, every cat where on earth. This Luna. I can't believe she
took off on us like that,and she calls me irresponsible as it.
Luna is never irresponsible. Something musthave happened to her. Huh, Hey,

(02:16):
you get hers checking out? It'sthe new Salem V video game.
You're a classic. How can youthink about video games at a time like
this? Zos I might come backafter this point. She's the carrier of
the rainbow christ I know. Still, we gotta keep an eye on her.
Yes, got oh, I'm sogood at just it's close, It's

(02:39):
very close. So come on out, you Majie fat fleabagh. It's warm.

(03:17):
Hello and welcome back to Moonstar,a Sailor Moon podcast. I'm one
of your hosts Alex, and thisweek Chris and I will be covering the
twenty seventh episode of the deep dubof Sailor Moon, also known as the
nineties version of Sailor Moon, titledKitty Chaos. Just a few announcements before
we get into what is very likelymany Sailor Moon fans favorite episode ever.

(03:39):
For good reason, there are severalSailor Moon related creative projects going on at
the moment, both Moonstar related andotherwise, and for our projects, you
can find the links in the descriptionof today's episode, or you can head
on over to Casting Call Club andsearch for the project by title. Want

(04:00):
to get involved but don't feel likevoice acting is your thing, That's fine.
There are several other ways that youcan help. We are always looking
for writers, artists, animators,video game developers, web designers, composers,
and more, all of which area huge asset to any creative projects
team. If you have one ofthese skills and you want to help in

(04:21):
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of these projects, what you feellike you can offer them, and then
include some links to your work forwhatever would be relevant to what you're trying

(04:42):
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you want to submit those via CastingCall Club and you don't see the exact
skill that you have, you canjust put it on any of the animator,
writer, any of those or youcan send us an email directly Moonstar
ASMP at gmail dot com. Weare excited to announce our first Moonstar Spotlight

(05:10):
featuring Kawsu Studios. What is aMoonstar Spotlight? That's a really good question.
So since we have had this platformfor about a year now, and
there are several many other creative peoplein the Sailor Moon universe who came along
long before we did that, we'veactually been watching and you know, consuming

(05:31):
their content for as a fan foryears and years. We wanted to take
our opportunity to elevate some of thesecreative people whenever we can, and what
better way to do it than togive them a whole episode as if we
were interviewing anyone like a celebrity ora or a voice actor or whoever.

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So for us, Kawsu Studios isthe perfect first moon Star Spotlight special candidate
because I think I referenced her AMVmonster very early on in the Moonstar.
I think, like the first coupleepisodes, and it's something that I've always
watched, like I would come backto it whenever I needed to, Like,

(06:15):
I don't know, it makes mefeel that thing. It's kind of
hard to explain, but it's likea tingly connection. I don't know,
it chills, you know, justperfect timing and effects and whatever. So
that's kind of how they caught myattention. And then I found their other
projects like Sailor Sailor Moon Sacrifice,which you can learn more about on their
special and everything you know will bethere. But yeah, it just felt

(06:41):
correct to have them as our firstMoonstar Spotlight because we've been a fan of
theirs for a long time and wereached out to them and they've been great,
you know, with us the entiretime, very supportive. Yeah,
I couldn't think of a better firstguest, So thank you. Thank you
Kosu for enjoy or for agreeing todo this interview and for coming on and

(07:05):
having a really lovely conversation. It'sall recorded and done and we just got
to put it all together. Thatwill be out later this month for you
guys. But you do get tomeet Kowsu Studios today because, as coincidence
has it, the episode we arecovering today is their favorite episode of Sailor

(07:25):
Moon, which does come up inthe interview, so we're going to share
that little clip with you now,so please enjoy a little preview of Kowsu
Studios and mis conversation, specifically discussingtoday's episode, Katie Chaos. I do
want to talk a little about theepisode. Your favorite episode of Sailor Moon?

(07:49):
Tell everyone which one that is?All right? I don't know the
episode number, but it was loveand Chased Luna's worst day ever. It's
probably the funniest episode I've seen whereRed Butler is the star of this episode
and he is he is my spiritanimal, yes, Red Butler or Hercules,

(08:09):
Hercules, yes. And this wasKitty Chaos, which coincidentally is actually
coming out like two days from actuallytomorrow, going out tomorrow. But tell
us why you love this episode.The humor of it all, um,
Like in the beginning when Luna's gettingchased by all these cats and this is
like a little tiny cat biting hertail, like I lose my mind every

(08:31):
time. Um. Yeah. Butthe animation is also gorgeous in this episode
two, even if it's meant tobe, even if it is a comical
episode, it's just beautiful to lookat it really is. We talked a
lot about that when we recorded thethe coverage of it. What are some

(08:52):
of your favorite moments from this one, uh m. One of my absolute
favorites, of course, Luna atthe beginning. At second is Zoysi getting
chased by the rats, which,by the way, did you know their
mice are they? I thought theywere well in the English they changed them

(09:13):
to rats and then oh, okay, I don't know why. Yeah,
because they look like mice, notrats. They're like these little cup they
look like almost, um, thereally old bulky computer mice. Do you
know what I mean? Like likethat? What? Okay? What else
do you which? What other momentsdo you remember? Um? There was

(09:35):
one part just the girls I thinkthey were there were in that little girl's
room. I forget her name,but like Osagi was like, oh my
gosh, she's got the video.Okay, she's got the other v just
like, yes, that's my girl, that's right. Um, and I
think she starts playing it. Shedoes, yes, yeah, and everyone's
like doing their their senti duties.She's just like, nah, this game

(09:58):
is more important exactly, Ladies andgentlemen, your moon princess, right,
that's right, keep going. Also, pretty much it was at Venus or
no, it's Jupiter who showed up. It was at them on the bike
that showed up Mars Mars right right, and uh, just just the fluidity

(10:20):
of the animation, the direction ofit, and of course my personal favorite
Hercules is or Rehet Butler's big oldblushing face at the end scene. It
just that's just the best episode.Do you remember the first time you saw
it? Yeah, probably when Iwas a kid when it was first airing
in the nineties. Um, itprobably didn't have a huge impact on me.

(10:43):
Back then. I probably just thought, oh, this is really cool
episode. But as I got older, I started reviewing and watching the Cellar
Moon footage almost every day looking forstuff that just this one always went in
the back of my head, like, this is this is the one for
me, this is the one Iremember having a bad day, I'll just
pop this on and you know,get fun, a little joy in my

(11:03):
life that day. It's perfect forthat. As far as season one goes,
it's it's it's such a perfect episodebecause it's a convergence of some of
the best animation in season one withsome of the best humor in season one,
with a fantastic one episode character thatis fleshed out without him ever saying

(11:26):
a word, and we get alot of character development with Luna, and
we get a b story with Raywho the whole episode is just like wandering
around the city on her own.Look like I forgot about that, That's
right. She's like she's like essentiallyout trying to hook up or something,

(11:48):
and then it just shows up ona bike to save these cats. And
it's like, if if Sailor Moondidn't have to heal hercules, they probably
would have just had her really OliqueScout to do the battle. I think.
So, it's just it's such aunique episode and it's so freaking funny.
Every beat is done is like hitperfectly. If you guys are going

(12:11):
to watch, like if you're lookingfor an episode that will like just hit
a whole bunch of notes all atonce. Kitty Chaos, Love and Chase,
Luna's worst day ever. This episodetwenty seven for the Deek, episode
thirty one for the Japanese or whateverother version you're watching. Probably what are

(12:31):
your Let me ask you, justbecause we've covered all of your stuff,
let me just ask you fan questionsnow, all right. I hope you
guys enjoyed that little preview, andI can't wait for you to hear the
rest of that conversation, because itwas just really lovely to talk to another

(12:52):
creative person in the Sailor Moon universewho just you know, we both of
the same thing with the same amountof intensity. I feel like said we
got along really great, and Ihope you guys will enjoy being you know,
a fly on the wall for thatconversation when that comes out later this
month. Now, we got tojust get into the show because you know,

(13:13):
we gotta all right, I'll seeyou at the end. Tell me

(13:39):
about your week. Did you haveany interviews since I talked to you last
No, I haven't. I've justbeen like out in the city doing stuff
and I'm sure it'll bat when againpretty soon. Um. I don't know
who it will be, but thenext fire um one Heroes of the Day

(14:00):
in a few days, so Ithink it'll be like all new characters.
Oh wow, so that's a wholenew set of voices. Usually, yeah,
sometimes there's several people in the mobilegame that play like five different characters.
Oh yeah, that's probably that's theway to go. I'm looking at

(14:20):
my project that I'm casting for nowand thinking like, Okay, I'm gonna
have to see if I can getsome of these people to do a few
more. Not anything that exciting goingon here. I did discover a place
to see drag nearby though, thatI didn't know about. So I'm gonna
try and go out. Yeah,I'm gonna see if I can get out
this summer and see what the localscene is like here, because I haven't

(14:43):
been out here yet. This isfun. I have a student who is
very young and new and like socks. I do a prize box in my
classroom and it's a Sailor Moon lunchbox. And they saw that and they're like,
oh, my parents love that show. Watch it with them. And
I was like, good family alert, right, But she she brought me

(15:03):
the cutest picture of Luna ever,and this is like a seven year old.
So it's literally like a purple coloringall over the front of the page.
She did the gold moon on thething and then a little cat face,
and then she drew ears on thecorner and folded it down and colored
the back so it has floppy earslike a real cat. I was like,

(15:24):
this is this is cute? SoI put that on my wall and
that's my second Sailor Moon art piecethat I've gotten from students. I told
you about the first one, right, it's the image for the first episode.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, soI love whenever that kind of stuff
happens. That was kind of fun. Let's get into it. This episode

(15:46):
is one of my favorite ones.Yeah I say that. Yeah, it's
so good. And this is theone where, if you think about it,
remember I told you last time thistape. For some reason, like
this set of episodes eluded me,yeah, forever. And it's almost like,
I think this is probably the bestvolume, like VHS volume of Sailor

(16:08):
Moon because you start with the onewith the science Lady, right, which
is already just inherently kind of interestingand good. And then what was last
week's episode again, the Raised Grandpa. Yeah, Raised Grandpa's episode, another
one. He's so fun and youget to like learn a lot more about

(16:30):
him. We get to meet Chad, so that's a really important moment.
Then you have this one, andI just remember going through each one and
it's like this one hit and Iwas just like this is insanity when I
saw it the first time, andthen right after this is Tuxedo Melvin.
So it's it's just like four ina row that are really, in my
opinion, some of the best onesSeason one, at least, it's a

(16:57):
little girl who's in thanks targets andall the alley cats of tow are after
Luna. Where is the rainbow Crystal? Could Luna's that beline friend be its
keeper? Why didn't you stick around? And we'll show you? What is
the actual Japanese title for this Lovedand Chased Luna's worst day ever? That's

(17:22):
cute. This is Kitty Chaos inEnglish and I like the I like both
titles. Actually, yep. Whatis the first thing we see this week?
It's this cinematic goofy Disney movie esquething where Luna's being chased by a

(17:42):
huge horde of streetcats. Yeah,why are they chasing her? Well,
once dialogue starts after that scene ends, it's revealed that it's like a turf
war thing and she didn't know anythingabout that. Um oh really? In

(18:02):
the Japanese, yeah, it's justbecause that little cat was on her tail.
In the English, oh, thatmakes more sense. I guess they
cut out the turf four thing completely. And when she's in that same beginning
scene when she's being cornered by thisbig Horde of Cats. Then the centric

(18:27):
character of the episode, a big, a fat, like funny looking blue
cat named Rhett Butler, shows up, and there's a spoof of a tuxedo
mass saving Sailor Moon where he throwsfishbone and jumps down and saves her,
and then that's the that's the beginningof the Yeah, I was gonna say,

(19:00):
who comes to her rescue? Whichis this cat who's like, he
looks a little bit like Grumpy Cat. Oh, I am no, But

(19:22):
if it was Grumpy Cat was ashort haired cat. You said he's blue.
I'm sort of color blind. Helooks like light gray or mint green
to me. I guess you couldlike any of those three. You could
say, Okay, so that's justhow you want to interpret it. Um,
but can you describe like the wayhis face looks. Yeah, it's

(19:45):
it's kind of sleepy and dopey looking. It's not ugly, but it's just,
um, it just looks kind oflike a gag character, like a
gag animal character in Sailor Moon.If those are thing, um, yeah,
yeah, and it almost he almostlooks like a character who you I
think the reason that he works sowell is because he's both ridiculous but also

(20:11):
has a lot of agency and isvery serious at the same time, and
that's why it's so great. Likethe when the little Fishbone appears with the
same music sting as Tuxedo Mask.I always forget that he does that,
and it always makes me laugh outloud every time. And after the cats

(20:33):
like you know, back off becauseof him, and it's revealed that this
little one is chomping on her tail. He shows up, he kind of
licks her tail, and then basicallyit's really obvious that he likes her.
And who shows up and is thereason why him and Luna you know,
separate here it's the owner of rapButler, at least in the Japanese is

(20:56):
the little girl doesn't isn't really giventhe name. I guess I didn't need
that hair on my tail anyway,must Oh Tex was saving me. The

(21:21):
person's too far kitty Ky. Ofcourse, what else do we do name
a huge white cat? They don'tthink they name her in English either?
Okay, yeah, I think thatwas probably intentional because it was supposed to

(21:42):
be. Like the whole idea isthat the misdirect was everyone thinks she's the
target, but it's really the catum. We see a short scene with
the girls and then it jumps overto Ray calling someone. Who's she calling
and why don't they answer? It'sjust calling mamadoo for going out on a
date. And then she's home,but he's sitting out on his patio thinking

(22:03):
about the rainbow crystals. And Idon't know if it's probably different than English,
but you can hear all the audio. It's subtitled in Japanese. And
she like the specific thing where heis asking to do is she found out
what taramisu was and she wants togo try that with him. Oh that's

(22:23):
cute. I don't remember what theactual voicemail she was leaving was, but
you could hear it. Yeah,And that reminded me about screening calls.
Do you know what that is?Yeah? For people who might not,
because it's the thing that was specificto win. Most homes had a landline
and a voicemail that would play outloud as it was being recorded in your

(22:45):
house, which I would say thatdied off about like the mid like I
don't know, like two thousand andfive to two ten is when it really
started to disappear, and it's likebeen gone ever since mostly, But what
people used to do is like therewas no caller ID on your phone,
you had to pay extra for that. And if they weren't sure who was

(23:06):
calling them, like, you know, because people still got scam calls and
people used to call to sell youstuff randomly, it would just let it
go to voicemail and listen to whowas leaving a message, and then if
they wanted to talk to you,they'll answer, and if not, they
just ignore it. Um. AndI thought it was funny that Darien was
essentially screening his calls and ignored Ray. Uh. Where's ray Um? Well,

(23:27):
you see, she uh is kindof busy today. See because it's
Saturday. She wanted to go ona date with Darien. Hello, this
is Darion. Hi, Darien,it's me Ray. I'm not around right

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now. Please leave your message.Oh, Hi, it's Ray. I
heard they've got this totally amazing chocolateSunday over a flavor factory. And I
thought, me, you'd like togo? Tell you with me? Would
you like to come? If youhaven't even yet, I mean I must
find it. You can't let getit because it's a little shady. But

(24:12):
I think it was more supposed tobe that he was like preoccupied in not
paying attention. Yeah, have youever screened calls before? Were you ever
able to? Were you ever oldenough to, like when it was a
thing? And I was old enoughto be aware of phone calls and stuff
that wasn't early at least in ourhouse, that wasn't It was already like

(24:33):
outdated technology. Did you ever havehim like your home phone number memorized?
Yeah? I still do, Okay, I stue I still have my home
phone number from when I was akid. That magic is gone. It's
like it's weird not knowing anyone's phonenumber like my heart these days. Um,
all right, what does the darkCrystals show zoice site when depicting this

(24:56):
week's target. Well, since boththe girl and the cat come up,
he just assumes that it's with thegirl. Um, and it's the it's
the it's the purple crystal. Itis which is the final crystal as well?
Right? Yep, we see allthe girls talking after this, and
Amy's using her computer for something.Do you know what she's doing? What

(25:22):
do you do? And Amy,I'm searching for the seventh rainbow crystal,
but the crescent moon and isn't reactingat all, like dah. That's why
we're using the computer to try andfind the thing before the neg of us
does get with the program. Serina, Oh, Luna, I think it's
found something. It's scanning the city. Looks like the seventh rainbow crystal must

(25:49):
be right there. Yeah, it'sit's in relation to the rainbow crystals she's
trying to search for on the mapnearby because the moonstick isn't responding. And
then they on the map it showswhere the crystal is, and then they

(26:11):
go there and then it ends upbeing this like a nice house of the
of where the of where the littlegirl and the cat live. How do
they or how does Luna figure outthe cat lives here? When they first
all get there, she sees himin the window looking at her. Yeah,
it's like this funny shot of thisbig lump shape and then it just

(26:32):
zooms in on him and Luna startsbeing all like weird about it. I
was laughing here because when Serena noticesLuna acting funny, she makes this like
funny cat face yea with her hands, you know, and it just kind
of brought up a point I wantto touch on Now, I really love
the animation in this episode. Wherewhat do you think of it? Yeah?

(26:56):
I think one reason why I likeit some why a lot of people
like it so much too, isbecause it's doing it. I was going
to say, I think it wasprobably her, but it's what was her
first episode again, do you know? Yeah, the very first one that
she did was the Chanela like theevil mind controlling That's right. Yeah,

(27:21):
her style definitely stands out and wesee that here like pretty clearly, especially
coming from last week, which wasn'tterrible, but it was, like,
I don't know, I can seewhy she became, you know, the
lead person. What is the reasonwhy Luna gives them that she doesn't want
to go into the house. Iwonder if it's different that Uh oh no,

(27:45):
I guess maybe it is the samein English because Luna pretty much just
says that or while Amy says that, like, you know, it's okay
if if Luna doesn't feel up forcoming with us every time, and then
well then it just kind of goesalong with it, and the new Saggy

(28:06):
gives her crap one more time andthen they walk off. Oh no,
it's different, she tells them thatthe cat has a crush on her,
and then they're making fun of herfor it, and I think Amy says
something like, it's okay if Lunahas fun too, thought it was funny.
Well, let's joy you guys.Go on. Oh wait, hear

(28:26):
what's wrong Luna? Nothing but Luna, you're our guardian cat. We need
to it's your duty as our felineprotector. I know. But see that
cat up there, but he's kindof got a crush on me. What
well, that's all right, EvenLuna can sometimes be distracted from work.
Kittie loves Swell, okay, Luna, we'll be right back. See a

(28:48):
scary cat, right, You justhad to add in your two cents,
didn't you, Sarna? And thenafter they go inside, what happens and
Luna's alane outside? The same catsshow up, and then well I guess
technically happens after the girl answers thedoor, But then Rhet the cat,

(29:11):
and Rhet kind of gets a senseof that Luna is nearby and then goes
into lightning mode and zooms away andruns away to where Luna is. M
Yes, and the animation here wherewe see Luna panicking with like all the
cats above her and the sky islike dark and crazy. That was another
moment that just stood out to meas like, oh, this is really

(29:33):
well done. And then kind ofa great choice here animation wise, the
girls noticed the crescent moon one reactingwhen the girl answers the door holding the
cat, and like we said before, who do they assume the crystal holder
is hello girl? Yeah? Yeah? And then right from there we get
more with Luna and she's like ina standoff with these two cats. And

(29:56):
again I made a note here theanimation is so good, all right,
who saves Luna this time? Andhow do they do it? Oh?
Well, yeah, like a RTsaves her again. But he yeah,
he bites her, I guess orsomething technically, and then he falls off
the fence and into a sewer.Yeah. So in the English his name

(30:18):
is Hercules, and he grabs herby the scruff of her neck, which
is for people who don't know youcan safely lift a cat there, because
it's how their parents do it.Like, if your cat's ever stuck somewhere,
you need to move them immediately.That's how you do it, grab
the scruff of their neck and pickthem up. So he does that,
but then he does like this weirdback flip cat acrobatics up onto the thing,

(30:38):
and like as you said, hefalls down and they go into the
sewers and then we see the girlstrying to find soy site. Where are
they? Yeah? So well,when the when the little girl runs off,
she runs into this alley, there'sa great little seek once of Zooside

(31:02):
falling from the sky down onto herfrom an angle, and then they hit
the girls here, girls screaming,and then they run over there and then
Zooside is using the black crystal toextract, and then you realize is that
nothing's happening? And then that's whenthat's when the rest of the grocer rope.

(31:26):
Such a sweet child, totally unawareof the treasure inside her. Now
the seventh and last rainbow crystal willbe mine. What why doesn't that crystal

(31:48):
appear? Oh no, it's thatridiculous cat that's got the crystal. Well,
of course I should have known,the precious seventh um. And when
they show up, they're all crammedinto this tight little area, right,
and yeah, they they're sort oftrying to fight, but what can you

(32:12):
walk through? What happens here?Yeah, it's just they can't like with
where they are, they can't movearound much at all. And then um,
when by the end of it,when Jupiter is going to use Supreme
Thunder, the Ami and Usagi freakout and tell her that they're that they

(32:36):
would just all hurt themselves if she'duse that, and then is all a
Site just kind of scoffs and decidesnot to engage with them and then disappears.
Yeah, and there's actually a sceneduring this part that made it into
the English that surprised me, whereAmy sort of tries to do her bubbles
and then falls forward and you seeLeda or Makodo looking up her. Well

(33:00):
that's Jupiter, I guess, lookingup her skirt and blushing and stuff.
And I'm shocked that they didn't cutthat out. Fishes, I'm Sailor Macurre
and I are usually that Cola limeSailor Jupiter back off tweel should be ad
how perssically annoying, a bunch ofgoofs, a triple threat, the three

(33:32):
sailor stooges, which how dare you? I won't let you in? Yeah,
like all the other rules, theydon't reference it directly. But I
think it would have been one ofthose things that they like, there had
to be some stuff that they werelike, let's just not say anything about

(33:54):
this and see if we get itthrough, you know, and that because
I'm sure with network and stuff,there's like final approval or whatever. And
that seems like one of those momentsbecause it's very for the their tone.
It's way more salacious than they usuallylet it get. Did that stick out
to you at all? Not somuch to me, just because I'm watching

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a completely different version than you are, so it's just kind of like a
par for the course thing. Iwas gonna say, stuff like that probably
happens more regularly than I'm yebering.I still thought that was interesting though,
And then, Oh, another reasonwhy is because I remember a friend pointing
that out to me when I wasyounger, and I didn't get why she
was so like obsessed with that partbecause I was like not paying attention,

(34:43):
I guess properly. But as anadult looking back, I'm like, oh,
she was lesbian, That's why thatpart was so exciting to her.
Now it clicks, So, yeah, we all have our own weird LGBT
avenues to this showing yes, afterthis scene and Zoysie gets away, Zoysie

(35:05):
ends up in the sewer going afterthe target, which she now realizes is
the cat, right, Yeah,And then we cut to a shot of
Luna passed out on top of hercules, and that's where they like go to
the commercial break here, and wecome back and the girls are doing what
they're back in the little Girl's roomand trying to figure out where the crystal

(35:30):
is. And then Usagi isn't payingattention because there's a Sailor V game video
game and the girls room and theyalso, or at least Ambi and Makoto
expressed upon might be in trouble.And that's that's that whole scene. Yeah.

(35:51):
We even see Serena start playing iton the TV, which was a
detail I loved because they do thata lot in this show, where you
like get to see the characters participatingin media, like watching TV, using
telephones stuff like that, and forsome reason, I feel like that doesn't
happen in anime all the time.It's just like a detail I enjoy about

(36:13):
it. We cut back to thesewers and what's going on here. Zoo
Site is crawling through a smaller areaof the sewer, and he's getting excited
because the the crystal detector is goingoff more quickly and like vibrating more,

(36:37):
an indication that the rainbow crystal isclose by. And then he puts his
hand on the wall and it's warmand soft, and that's revealed that it's
a bunch of mice. And thenhe freaks out and there's this great mic
still shot of him being revealed thathe's surrounded by mice. It's a very
I don't even know if you wouldreally know, but it's I think it's

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kind of a callback to like sixtiesseventies horror anime and manga um And then
he just freaks out and starts runningand the mice are triggering after him in
a big card. They don't lookscary at all. It's just like a
big like they're all orbe shaped withlittle with little red eyes. They look

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like toys to me, I wrote, yeah, and they change them to
rats, which I wrote I wasthinking they look more like mice and as
long as they are, but Ithought they were cute, and I still
think that many would be awful,but they were kind of cute, and
I thought also the way they animatedZoisite there in the darkness with the crystal

(37:44):
before she finds the rats, waslike especially cool. There's something about like
the glowing lighting that they did there. Yea, that just stuck out to
me as like a unique moment.What is the reference for the horror anime?
It's something specific. It's just justfrom what when I've read them,

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because horror manga got a big boomin the late fifties and sixties, and
it was just a lot of scenesand stuff. It wasn't a lot of
them weren't that intense. It wasjust when a character would discover something,
it would cut to a shot thatwould look really similar to Zoo site being

(38:27):
surrounded by the mice and them like, and then there'd be a pause so
you could see all the art andthen the character would react to whatever was
going on. So it was likean intentional delay, just a showcase.
Oh the style you mean? Yeah, Oh, I get what you're saying.
I if I saw it again,I probably know it. But it
did seem like a very specific choice. Yeah, because it was it was

(38:51):
very different. There's after that moment, Oh, I went so in this
episode, we kind of uniquely forsailor, we would have a very clear
A and B story. Do youknow what that means? Yep, For
people who might not, it's Ilearned the term through learning about sitcoms,
where like, the A story isyour primary story, like the main point

(39:13):
of the episode, and then theB story is like a second storyline that's
going on to kind of fill ingaps or be supportive or ad usually comedic
value or whatever. And in thiscase, our A story is Luna and
the Cat and the Crystal. What'sher B story? Yeah, I suppose.
I mean it's not huge, butobviously it's what the things that Ray

(39:37):
is doing with her day, sinceshe didn't go with everybody else. Yeah.
And something to me they did thatvisually signified that her part was more
significant. Is that they put herin an outfit she doesn't usually wear,
so they had to animate her aspecial way. Can you describe her outfit?
Yeah, it's this nice kind ofI guess fancy, Yeah, more

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fancier, like orange dress, likeorange brown dress. Yeah, she looks
like she's out on a date orsomething, but she's alone. When we
see her again, now she's walkingdown the street in her little orange outfit.
She looks extremely fancy, and thenChad shows up, And this is
like, the reason I was talkingabout the b story is because without stringing

(40:23):
all of her moments together, thisscene feels very strange. I think the
purpose of it is showing us thather life is more separate from the girls
than the rest of them, becauseshe goes to a different school, right
yeah, and she is just naturallymore of a loaner. I don't know,
but what happens with this scene betweenChad and Ray we here. I

(40:45):
wasted my entire day looking for stupidDarian. I'm sure candy boring sometimes.
Huh. Oh, Chad, Hi, did Gramps finally give you some time
off from your training at the temple? Oh? Yeah, sure did.
I'm not doing anything special, butwould you like to go for a burger?

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He's kind of a hunt, butI gotta play hard to get right
of course, dum me popular majorcool babe like you would probably already be
book solid, right well kind of? Oh yeah, well I had thought
to see you right hey, waitwhere are you going? Boy? Sure

(41:27):
can't play hard to get with him? Well, tomorrow's end of the day.
He shows up, and I guessbasically he does basically say ask her
to spend time with him, butthen when she doesn't clearly answer right away,
he says that, oh, well, you know, a girl who
looks like you probably doesn't have muchfree time. And then she just kind

(41:52):
of goes along with it. Andthen when and then he walks away,
and then she kind of half heartedthe goes after him, but then just
lets him go. And then I'msure it's pretty clear to see in the
English version two, but they're bothstanding where they're standing against the wall on

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the street are two posters of likeolden time movie like there's a man and
a woman and separate posters. Andthen when when you eat your old walks
away In the Japanese race says like, this is just like gone with the
Wind. I need to look forthose, um because that would be a

(42:38):
nice detail to take a screenshot of. I didn't notice that, actually,
but I think that's cool because it'ssort of like, um, it's supposed
to be, I guess, settingthe tone for their relationship without it's like
an easter egg, like if yousee it, you know what that means.
I love that they add stuff likethat in here after they're seeing together

(43:00):
which was pretty much the same inEnglish. She basically instead of seeing a
girl that looks like you, he'slike, you're probably too busy for me
anyway, and then she kind ofmumbles something and he's just gone. But
we cut back to Hercules after this, and he's injured and Luna is sort
of like at first, so whatis Luna's I guess, emotional journey with

(43:22):
him from the beginning of the episodeuntil now. She's turned off by him,
but she's progressively warming up to himwhen in that scene, but this
is happening right now when she says, oh, did you you know you

(43:42):
hurt yourself all from me? Andthen doesn't He doesn't say anything. It
just shows him blushing. And thenZooste shows up with all the mice running
after running after him, and thenLuna and Rat end up squeezing into an

(44:06):
even smaller pipeline of the sewer,and then zoa Site does too, but
then he ends up getting enveloped byall the mice. Yeah, so in
the English one, Luna actually askshim if he helped because he likes her,
and that's when he blushes. Sothey made it a little more clear,
and yeah, we cut back toZoisite with the rats in this version

(44:30):
of it. And the thing Inoted about this moment was when Zoisite goes
in after them into this space heor she however you want to depending on
your version, but it looks likean eel, like you know what I
mean, like wiggling into something.It was so funny the way that they
animated that moment, and it madethe space look really tiny. And then

(44:52):
they go in there and he's ableto crawl on all fours. Yeah,
so it was bigger inside, butit looked super tiny and I was like,
you didn't even make it out ofthere. Um, But yeah,
I thought that was That was afunny moment, and I wrote this is
truly one of the most ridiculous scenesin Sailor Moon, but also one of
the best. What's happened to you? Make? It's injured? You hurt

(45:15):
it when you thought of all thoseaniquettes for me, didn't you? Why
did you whisk hurting yourself to helpme? I ask? Is it because
you like me? Well? Oh, stupid question, Uh there is.

(45:45):
It's so slight this time. I'mgetting that crystal. You're the one with
the lost crystal. Come on,figure will she won't be able to police
it. Yeah, you can't geta kid in. You've never turned dumb

(46:13):
food. Come on, her Achilleslive off to name. I'm texting off
the Crystal's mind among the Devin,I almost with the rest. Come on,

(46:35):
most mustard, you'll probably do likethe deeps. The diety might not
be such a bad idea, Iext. It's just so you have to
watch it and experience it just toknow how great it is. I don't
know. But Luna and her Achillesmake it out of the sours, and

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who spots them? Ray sees themfirst because she is um just leaning over
a little bridge over pass area,and then she she's like, oh,
Luna's with her boyfriend. And thenthat's when the big horde of mice explode
out of the sewer, and thenthen Zoasite like comically rises up and he's

(47:30):
still enveloped by them, but he'snot afraid of him anymore, and then
they part a little bit just toshow his eyes, and then he's like
floating over Luna and rat I wrotethat it was the way the rats exploded
out or the mice of the sewerwas funny. And then we got a
great reaction shot from Ray to that. I loved how they had her gets

(47:52):
so funny over that dimbo by HamI wasted the whole day. Huh,
there's Luna, who's that humist she'swith? H and yeah, Also the
thing with Zoisite being enveloped by therats was funny because that it looks like

(48:15):
it's intentional and meant to be adisguise and then they kind of like disappear.
The way they did that was sohilarious. We finally cut back to
the girls and at this point,the Crescent Moon one has stopped reacting and
they finally figure out who the targetis. And I wrote, wow,
Amy, come on, like becauseit felt like it for the genius of

(48:38):
the group to take that long tofigure it out was a little silly,
But then we wouldn't have had theepisode. So plot devices and we cut
away from them again, like it'sso fun There's a lot of back and
forth in this episode. I'm noticing. But we see Hercules being bounced onto

(48:59):
his act by the rats, whichwas sort of funny the way they animated
that, And then who shows upto save the cats? Here? Mars
shows up and she does her ownintroductory thing and says that she's not gonna
let Zoa start interfere between our relationship, even if it's with animals, And
then Zois I just kind of ignoresthat and then uses the black crystal on

(49:22):
Rat and turns Red into a monstercat. As far as I know,
this is the first time we seea solo intro from Mars. Is that
right, yep? And that thevery animation when she's pointing that's also reused
in later seasons and stuff. Whenevershe does that again. Get ready to

(49:50):
rumble, Queen Rent, show yourface that your dare. I am stilling
loss champion of the love lorn,and I say leave those cats alone.
Even cats have the right to lovemost stop. The fires of love are
burning, the fire of justice isburning. I won't let anyone destroy a

(50:15):
person's, no, even a kitty'schance at romance. I will punish you
on behalf of the place. Patheticit is. I'm remembering it from Sailor
Monar right now. Yeah, Iwas gonna say that that they do end
up throwing a something that becomes sortof like a stock intro in there.

(50:36):
I liked her little speech. Itwas a little hokey, Pokey in the
English, and I think Luna commentson that too, And we see,
like you said, Zoisite takes thecrystal and hercules. The cat looked like
he was in pain here, andit made me sad because it's a cat
and I love cats, and Ithink that kind of feeling. They knew

(50:58):
people were going to feel like that. Yeah, and that's why everything plays
out the way it does after this. But what is the monster? What
does he turn into? It's justthis pretty much like a It's it's drawn
pretty well. It's it's a monstrousversion of of a cat. It's like
a tall, hulking with more demoniclooking eyes and big claws. Yeah,

(51:22):
it's like it's it's one of themore straight up monster looking monster of the
days in Sailor Moon. Yeah,it reminded me a little bit of Monster
Rancher in the design for people whoknow that reference. Oh yeah. But
also the way he walked standing upand then his front pause kind of hung
down a little bit more gorilla likethan a cat would, and he had

(51:45):
like a necklace thing that looked itwas just like it's like wood pieces hanging
down. I don't know, hewas cool looking enough, but Muna.
Luna moves in front of him tostop him and then falls down and what
happened? She thinks that the yomais gonna attack, and then all he

(52:06):
does is end up saving her,like lifting her up and one of his
palms, and then Luna says thatyou know, sailor Moon will return you
back to normal pretty soon, andthen nothing happens, like he doesn't react,
and then that's when Mercury and Jupitershow up. Yeah, and they

(52:28):
open with the bubbles, and Iput probably because it's the most gentle way
to like do this and waken himbecause they technically have to. And then
Jupiter comes in and at first Ithought she was going to kick him because
of the way the animation was,but she actually ends up sort of sliding
underneath and grabbing Luna and getting herout of there safely without hurting him.

(52:49):
And there's like this random moment wherethey forced this was like shoehorned in where
like Mars and Moon have to arguefor a second, I guess, and
then we get you know, themoon healing escalation, and I think,
like you were saying, they arelike I was saying before they did this,
because they knew people aren't going towant to see that character get hurt
in any way. Yeah, andI think it was important to have a

(53:14):
character who completely breaks through the darkcrystal mentally, and having it be a
cat was smart because if it wasa human, I think it would have
been like why that one? Whyis whoever? So special? You know?
But because it's this ridiculous cat character, it's like, yeah, of
course, why would he, youknow, do anything bad? And I

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just put some a little list ofunique notes here about Hercules or Rhett,
and it is that he never attacksin his monster form. He acts to
protect Luna while still as a monster, and because of this, he also
never gets directly damaged by any ofthe Sailor Scout attacks, unless you consider
Bubbles to do small damage because henever attacks them, so there was no

(54:01):
reason too. And despite all ofthat, it's one of my favorite battle
sequences actually because it shows that,like it's like they show this battle shows
that the girls put thought into whatthey're doing. Yeah, and you know
what I'm saying, And so there'sthat aspect of it, but it also

(54:22):
shows that the creators of the showalso have that level of awareness where it's
like we have to change this upsomehow, you know what I mean,
and show that like they're not goingto react the same to absolutely every situation.
And I think this was a greatway to do it. Yeah.

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Plus the comedy in this episode isten out of ten. I think anyway,
before we before we do, thesailor says, let's rate it,
because we forget all the time.You go. First, there's other stuff
that happened first, is there whatdid we miss? Yeah, there's the
this little stuff. There's um gothrough it. There's a tuxedo mass showing

(55:04):
up to take the crystal and rightit's weird because it's the way that it's
animated. It's like he's moving reallyslow to pick it up, and Zoasite
doesn't really do anything about it,and then Zoisite just runs after him,
and then you don't. You don'tsee either one of them again for the
episode. And then and then theway the episode ends is kind of getting

(55:28):
a different feeling about rhet And there'sthere's this really cute and card that I
think is like a homage to areally old um like mid nineteen hundreds romance
drama films, where she's on agrassy hill with a tree that overlooks a
valley, and then it's a sunset, a beautiful sunset visual, and then

(55:54):
shows up and blushes and then shemakes like an exasperation sound, and that's
how it ends. I forgot aboutthat I was writing when that part happened.
Okay, but you're right. Ilove the ending, and it's it's
very cute, and it makes mea little sad that we don't see him
again, I know, the cat, because he would be one that I

(56:15):
think everyone would welcome back. Yeah, to make a cameo here or there.
I wonder, why do you think, why do you think they animated
that part with Tuxedo like that?I don't know. I'm sure it didn't
really mean anything, but I guessI was just even though I had seen
this episode before and I remembered everythingthat happened, I was just surprised that

(56:37):
it's like the only instance where anyother time in an episode where there's been
an interaction between Zoosite and Tuxedo Maskinvolving the crystals, that you would think
that in the final one like thisone, that there would be more of
something. But they're yeah, Idon't I don't get why there's just not
at all this time. True,that is sort of weird, but I

(56:58):
think maybe we'll see in the nextepisode, like maybe it's yeah, the
beginning of it or something, youknow, maybe they wanted to split up
like that, because this one alsodid start immediately with action yea again,
so that's two in a row thatthey started in that way because they did
the same thing I think with theGrandpa episode. Right, what do you
give this episode? I'd give ita five same, five out of five

(57:21):
stars. I think it's our firstdouble five, so that makes it extra
special. And what about it makesit We've sort of already said, but
what about it makes it five outof five for you? For me?
I mean, I'm sure it's probablythe same for you. But it's animated

(57:42):
so well, and I think itwouldn't be that well if it wasn't a
combination of Ikuko doing the character designand then Ikuhara directing it. I think
that Zoa Site also looks I mean, he looks good in a lot of
art styles for season one, butI think Zowah Site looks the best in

(58:06):
her art style because of his wholeandrogynous look. Yeah, the whole breaking
the mold of not being a usualSailorman episode at all, and the fact
that it's an animal. I thinkit's the only case in the whole entirety
of the show that there is ananimal that is like the episode that like

(58:29):
the episodic featured character that turns intoa monster. Yeah, it's just a
it's a combination of all that stuff. Yeah. I would say the closest
thing we have, probably other thancharacter development episodes for Luna and Artemis and
all that, would be the onein s where there's all those stray cats
in the house and Usagi is tryingto get all of them to adopt the

(58:52):
casts, but then the monster andthat one is a puzzle of a cat,
oh, the nechonell Yeah. Yeah, which again it's like I think
the cats were like kind of acharacter, but it was more the girl
who was taking care of them becauseshe was the target of the heart snatchers.
There, I would say, yeah, pretty much the same reasons as

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you. I think the animation helpssell the comedy in this a lot in
a way where if it was doneby another animator, I think it would
have landed as like a three.Yeah, it would have been okay,
But it helps sell the comedy alot, And I think some of the
choices they made in this one,like having a B story was smart because

(59:34):
we don't always get that having itbe Ray where we get character development with
her if you're paying attention. Weget character development with Luna a lot in
this episode. But then we alsosee more of the girl's relationship to Luna
and how each of them treat herdifferently. You know. So there's just
like, if you really pay attention, while this episode is hilarious, learning

(01:00:00):
a lot about the characters here too. Yeah, so double five stars.
Just a couple of final random noteson here from the wiki. This is
the first and last appearance of themonster baccanae. I don't think they name
him or baccane Is that how yousay it? Yeah, but yeah,
they doesn't have a They never saythe name of it in Japanese either.

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Yeah, and he's technically one ofthe champions of the Negaverse the Seven Shadows.
Tuxedo Mask gets the Purple crystal thisepisode, and all seven Rainbow crystals
have been revealed, and our tallyis Zoisite has four tuxedo masquets two and
the Sailor Scouts have one. They'renot doing so hot. Apparently I didn't

(01:00:45):
realize that it shook out like thatat this point. That's pretty bad.
Yeah, the zoisite hates rats ormice. That's another note they gave us.
Okay, and this is a lunarepisode obviously, And then a couple
of things before we talk about theSailors. I just made a note of
the cast here and I wanted tosee if any of these names stick out
to you. The person who didthe cats predominantly was David Fraser. Do

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you know who that is? No, Okay, Kristin Bishop, that Zoey
site, Stephen Bernard Sky. Wesaid already, he's Chad. We got
introduced to him last week. Andsomebody named Tony Daniels did several of the
Alley Cats along with the Monster.Do you know who Tony Daniels is?

(01:01:29):
Yeah, he's I think he's oneof the isn't he also one of the
Generals. Let me see if heshows up again. I'm pretty sure he
died. Well he did. Hedid a bunch of Monster of the Day.
Yeah, he was a Jedi andwise man. Okay, that's why
I recognize him. But then someof the other cats were Julie Lemieux Lemieux,

(01:01:50):
I can't say it was. Yeah, Julie was um. She played
young Mamaru in the R movie andalso to do okay, oh, I
like I like her. David Frasier, we said already, John Stalker he
played he played a raised grandpa.Oh that's cute. I love that he

(01:02:12):
got to do a cat. Andthen Kathleen Laski that was she played a
nazuki or Matoki's sister. Oh oh, okay, no he're talking about I
was like, who the girl whoworks in the in the diner? Right?
Yeah, okay, all right,so yeah, I just thought that
was sort of fun. I liketo see who gets to do the random

(01:02:32):
parts. Wendy Leon was the littlegirl this week. I don't know who
she is. She was the beforewell, I think because Queen's Serenity was
prominently Barbara ro Ducky, who alsoplayed Neptune, but Wendy was technically her
first voice or she filled in insome scenes for Queen's Serenity. Oh okay,

(01:02:52):
because I noticed her voice does changea little sometimes. And then for
those who want to know the mainpeople right now we have Terry Hawks is
still the voice of Sailor Moon.Karen Bernstein does Sailor Mercury. Susan Roman
is Sailor Jupiter, Toby Proctor asTuxedo Mask Katie Griffin for Sailor Mars,
And that's the main cast from thisweek, because I know some people want

(01:03:15):
to know that Luna's gotta be oneof my very best friends. But keeping
pets is more than furry hugs andcuddles. If you love your pet,
you want to give him or hergood nutritional food and make sure they get
all the shots they need from yourveterinarian and don't let them wander into the
street where they can get hit bya car. There are some many unwanted

(01:03:37):
pets in the world. Talk toyour pants on your Animals bit about getting
your pets spayed on neutude bonuses,Bye bye, the Sailor says, was
basically about getting your pets spayed andneuter because we have a huge problem with
stray animals in this country. Andby this country, I guess that means

(01:03:59):
Canada and North America because it wasplaying in both places. Uh, yes,
I don't know. This is verylike, there's not a lot to
say about that. What do youthink yeah, uh yeah, it's instead
of talking about whether or not youshould like properly take care of your animals,
which we can all agree on.Um, do you have Have you

(01:04:20):
ever had any pets? Just justtoo um? When I was really young,
we had a black and white catnamed Tuxedo. Um. And then
when I was like probably from whenI was in late elementary school and up
until my senior year in high school, we had a cockapoo dog named Hudson.

(01:04:44):
Hudson Hotson is the town that Iloved in and went to high school.
Okay, that's a cute name fora dog though, and of course
Tuxedo for the cat. You haveto would you get Have you ever had
a pet on your own own,as like an adult? No, I
would love to have something like achinchilla or a rabbit or but I don't

(01:05:09):
know if I would commit to it. Maybe I would just I prefer maybe
like looking after somebody's for a weekor something at the most and to see
how you like it. Yeah,that's smart. Rabbits are a lot of
work and they can hurt themselves.Yeah, and they're dirty and they smell,
but they're cute. They're very cute. Enjoy them. I like seeing

(01:05:31):
them in my backyard. Yeah,chinchillas are great. I knew someone who
had a sugar glider once. Idon't know the like, you know,
I don't know how appropriate that is. I just know they had one,
but it seemed nice and happy.I don't know. There's all kinds of
cute little animals. Although when yousay chinchilla, I immediately thought of that
episode you talked about earlier. Yeah, so make sure you don't get a

(01:05:56):
possessed one. But you know,for pets, I don't know. I
love cats, I love dogs.Dogs are a little loud for me to
have around all the time, butI get along with them in public,
do you know what I mean?Like I love seeing them when they're not
at my house. Yeah. I'velived with a dog before for several years
with a roommate, And I don'tknow the difference between cats and dogs to

(01:06:20):
me is like, if you're gettinga dog, you're someone who's like,
if I could just find something thatwould crawl up my ass and stay there
forever, that would be great.Um, that's like what a dog is,
where it's just it's up in yourbusiness all the time. It's a
lot more similar to having like areal human kid, I think than a

(01:06:42):
cat is because they're way way morehigh maintenance in a lot of cases.
Unless it's like an older dog,maybe I think they can be a lot
calmer, you know. But that'ssort of been my experience with dogs is
like it's just it's it's all aboutthe dog all the freaking time. Yeah.
There's been a couple of times whereI was getting together with the guy

(01:07:03):
and like doing intimate stuff with likea new guy that I was meeting,
and they had small enough dogs thatyou know, could easily be handled and
picked up, and then they werespoiled enough or whatever that they like had
to be on the bed right withthe owner like at like all times,

(01:07:24):
and it would interrupt what we weredoing pretty regularly. Ship it's it's awkward
when that happens, And I thinkit's sort of a symptom of like I
love other people's dogs and I wantto interact with them, but there's also
boundaries, right totally, And adog doesn't know boundaries because it's a dog,
So you have to be the oneto set them as the human and

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some people don't know how, youknow, But I do think dogs provide
a lot of really important companionship andstuff like that, and can be really
therapeutic too for me personally in myhome though, I just need to be
able to, like, like,I couldn't do this if I had a
dog yapping in my background, youknow what I mean. I need to

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be able to focus and do allthat. When it comes to cats,
I think they have a huge misinterpretationbecause I love you dog people. Y'all
are allowed, you know it,and you love to say how dogs are
superior and how cats are whatever.But I think a lot of people who
feel that way have never like actuallygotten to know a cat before, because

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cats have such uniquely different personalities andthe difference with a dog and a cat
is like, and this is terrible, but you can kind of not be
that great to a dog and it'llstill really love you With a cat,
like they respond to the energy yougive them. If you are sweet and
loving and attentive to a cat,they will be that way with you.
Yeah, if they're just there becauseyou're like, well, I wanted an

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animal and now it's like this annoyingsmelly thing that I feed sometimes, you
know what I mean, Like theyknow that you don't really care, so
they're not going to be that cutewith you, you know. And I've
been really lucky with all the catsI've had have been very interesting in their
personalities, very different from one another, and I've learned a lot from having

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pets, you know, over theyears. If you had to also be
the last pet question, if youhad to pick a name for your next
pet, whatever it is right now, and you are allowed to change this
when you get an animal, butjust right now, what would you name
it? I'd probably name it aftermaybe something from sailor Moon or character from

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Fire m Bloom or Gemption Impact orsomething like that, like sell of what
is the character that I have tattooedon me? Or yeah, Biles or
something like that. That's cute.It's fun because then you can also,
depending on how long the pet lives, like the further ago, you're like,
oh, I named them that becausethat was so important to me at

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the time. And then it's like, yeah, you know what I'm saying,
because I had I got a catwhen Lady Gaga was like just first
exploding, and for people who mightnot know, that was kind of exciting
for LGBT people because the climate wasnot like it is today, yea.
And she was one of the firstmainstream artists that was so like aggressively pro

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LGBT to the point where it waslike in every song, it was in
every video. And I was solike, Oh, I think we're going
to actually see some progress here inthe next ten years or so, and
I think she's going to be kindof part of the catalyst for it.
And I was like, I'm goingto name my cat after that, you
know. And I didn't call himLady Gaga or whatever, but I chose

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a reference to her and she.I still think she's great, you know,
and everything, but thirteen years later, I'm not like obsessively Yeah,
it's different. You know, youget older and like musical artists not the
like deities they feel like when theywhen you're young. Yeah, but yeah,
I don't know. Pets are sucha unique experience, and I for

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some reason, I feel like ourlisteners are probably mostly pet people in some
way. I would say, allright, uh, do you want to
add anything here for this episode?MM? No, I guess that's yeah,
Pam. I think I've expressed everythingthat I feel and know about it.

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Others I have to find them,but there is there is some there
are some cell gallery I've seen onlinethat where they have a collection of a
bunch of Rhett Butler cells. Ihave to figure out who that is again,
um, because Rett Butler as infrom the Cat from this episode.

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That's his name. Oh that's whatHett Butler. You're right, okay,
right, That's also a character inRainbow Bright. So I'm like, what,
I'm like mixing fantasy worlds here,But I don't remember who that is.
But I remember seeing that that,Yeah, they have a bunch of
cells just of just of him.If you find it, can you link
it to me, like post itor I'll reference it or whatever, because

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I love when people can go offand find that kind of stuff. Okay,
yeah, I would just wish that. My one criticism is that I
wish the Sailor says was better onlybecause that kind of message is like more
for parents, Like, yeah,the eight year olds are not the ones
doing that anyway. Yeah, SoI was just kind of like, I

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think we could have found a bettermessage here, but whatever, it still
gets five out of five for me, all right, anything you want to
add at the end for other stufflike coming up stuff or find you.
Why don't you actually you know whatplug an interview that happened anytime in twenty

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twenty three that you felt was likejust especially fun. Oh okay, let
me just look at my what I'vedone so far earlier this year. One
of the voice actors I've done isCaitlin rob Rock, who is predominantly known
for being the current voice of MiniMouse. Since I think it was either

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during COVID or right before COVID uptill now, and interesting she was in
Fire Emblem. Is in Fire Emblemand she plays three characters, and she
was credited under a completely alias namethat is nothing. Elizabeth Simmons is what

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she went by. And she saidin our interview that she was told by
somebody or on that she's been doingvoice over for like twenty something years,
that she doesn't have the right voiceto be in like anime or anime video

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games. And what led her tofinally be reveal the credit as under her
real name is she she's a maincharacter in the latest console Fire Emblem game

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On the Switch that came out inJanuary, and the fan response to that
character that she plays, Chloe,is what led her to be finally embrace
like that it's her and not anot use an alias credit anymore. So

(01:14:53):
it was really great to be herfirst interview since m being open about that,
since there's really she was one ofthe only people in fire Emblem that
used the alias that that people hadlike absolutely no idea who was playing these

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characters. That is so funny that, yeah, she felt the need to
do that because someone ignorant said somethinglike that to her, you know what
I mean? And that's I thinkin that story. One of the greatest
lessons is if you're someone who's acreative person or you're trying to pursue something
in a field that is very subjective, you know what I mean, anyone

(01:15:39):
who's telling you you don't have thewhatever for this because blah, that's one
person's opinion, and very likely they'recorrect in their projects. You probably aren't
right for their projects because they've madeit clear they don't like you. But
that doesn't mean that everyone's going tofeel that way. And I don't think
it's worth taking on one person's opinionin that situation, whether it is valid

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or not for that specific project,and then like letting it define how you
act. You know, and I'mglad, and I think it is really
special that you got to be thefirst interview where she was open about that,
because it probably took a lot forher to get there and to feel
comfortable with it. And the factthat you got that story. As a
journalist, like people getting the scoopor whatever, or like being the first

(01:16:29):
one to break a story is usuallya really big deal in the world of
journalism, you know. So that'ssomething that other people probably wish they had,
and you may not even know that, you know. So, I
actually I think that's really cool.You guys should go listen to that.
Say her name again, Caitlin robRock. Yeah, and you know,

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screw anyone who tells you you're notgood enough to do what you want to
do because they don't know your capabilities. They're basing that opinion on like what
at the most to fifteen to thirtyminute interaction. Yeah, you know,
so, I think she's a greatexample of like just do it anyway and
don't let that stuff get in yourway, even if it knocks your confidence.

(01:17:13):
You know. Although using the aliasmight have been smart because she may
not have said this, but inmy mind, if i'm her I'm thinking
there's already a guy out in theindustry who has me kind of blacklisted,
right saying I'm not good enough.So any project he has any connection to,
even if it's like him being friendswith the casting director, if he
sees my name come across the table, he's going to say something. You

(01:17:36):
know, using an alias totally circumventsthat. Yeah, so that's pretty smart
on her if that was why shedid that, and then revealing it after
she's like, oh yeah, andI've done all this and bam, what
you know? That's kind of fierce. So everyone should go check that out
for sure on your YouTube channel.The video version has been up for a

(01:17:57):
while. And if you do thatmoment on it and say you came from
the show so he can see it, I want I want you guys to
start doing that. All right.We'll end the show there, uh,
and I'll touch base with you aboutif I need you. Katine and I
dont sense and that stands sense,kat I'm bekin gets and I dont that
stanse and that stansecats that's Catense,I'm look at That's it for this week's

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episode of Moonstar, a Sailor Moonpodcast can you believe it our first double
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I got a friend? She'll changeyou into the catch a work before
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(01:21:27):
time. Still a Jupiter. We'reall here. Yeah, and about time.
What's your lame excuse this time?Sorry, I was late too.

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It's not just her. Well,we were waiting and Serena wanted to finish
the Sailor V game marks relaxed.This isn't Serena's fault, Hub, but
it wouldn't be a normal day withouther nagging me. Guys, stop it.
We've got more important things to worryabout her. Huh right heally he'll

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