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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Anyway, how does this work? I'm'a google it now cause
I don't know. I ain't gonna google how that the
date advantage drug works. But i'm'a google what what is it?
Is it a liquid form or what? You all let
me know. I ain't even gonna need to google it

(00:24):
cause it don't make it. It ain't No, it ain't necessary.
Cause here's the thing, whether it's in a peel form,
liquid form or whatever. Who's gonna go through a thousand
a thousand bottles and put it in there or break
it down or or chop it up, or get that
much of it and put it in or was only

(00:44):
some a hundred laced?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
He ain't get to the rest. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Maybe two or three was laced and that was what
it was in his room. I don't know, because who's
doing this? That's gonna take a long time. You tryna
bag up a thousand bags of weed, that's gonna take
a long time. So I don't know, man, I know
it just had to be more involved with that. Uh okay,

(01:10):
Black butterfly appreciate it. That's why I love y'all. Y'all
got knowledge out there. You say it come in powder,
liquid and pill form. Well, I definitely know they couldn't
have been using no pill form because then they would
have had to what well, drop one pill in each
thing and then it dissolved.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I doubt they'd have did that. They'd probably had the
powder or the.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Liquid and then what open up each bottle, put a
little in each one and put it up and that
right there.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Would still take a lot of time.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
And I'm sure puff ain't doing that by itself, which
means somebody else should be in trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Where's all these people?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's just like old f oh f you know with
the island island that what happened on how he get
accused of doing all these things with the girl? But
where are the clients? Why did none of the clients
on the list go to jail? Cause if they were
doing the stuff with the girls, shouldn't they go to

(02:10):
jail too? But they didn't get released somehow, you know
what I'm saying. That's the thing, and that's how conspiracies
get formed. Cause you wondering, okay, if you know, like
normal you know woman selling that little pooh Nani selling

(02:32):
that twat twat selling. They take the joint and and
the cellar. You know what I'm saying, They take the
twat cellar and the joant, you know, So, I mean,
I don't know. Maybe it's a little more diff different
when you on the higher level, when you on on
uh what you call it, uh islands and stuff and

(02:54):
be Bambi. You say, they said they want Diddy and
his accomplices.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Hopefully they'll be revealed soon.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well we'll see because you know, they gonna definitely need
to show something otherwise. Who is he doing this too?
And with Damian Kenny? Did he form a bodyguard?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Said?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Did he drug addiction.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Progress from taking painkillers for an injury once? Did he
move to Cali he got off into the party lifestyle?
Huh okay, Well that's the first I heard about his
drug addiction.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Out there. But again, I'm not surprised.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
One thing I learned in life in my short little
time here on earth. I guess I'm halfway a little
more past halfway through middle age.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
But I know that one thing I know for sure
is I know what people be doing.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't put anything past anybody I do not personally know,
because I don't like to say what somebody would or
wanna do man, that a you don't know what somebody do.
I know, I just seen too many people on the
block talking about Man, I wish you would he ain't
gonna do that. He ain't gonna I man, he ain't

(04:16):
bout And next thing you know, they picking the they
face up off the floor.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Block.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
So you don't wanna be talking about what somebody ain't
gonna do or what they would do, because too many
times what you gonna do is.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
End up getting your add what you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I got a surprise guest coming through.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
How long time no see my man Larry in the building.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
What's good man?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
What's happening, man, that's.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Been a while, Yes, sir, yes, sir, good to see you.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Man. How's it been? Oh man, it's been pretty good.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Everything's everything, you know, how it is, grinding it out on.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
This YouTube thing, man, tell me about it. Tell me
about it, man, So what's up?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
What you think about this diddy freak off?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Some stuff going on in this list?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
And and what's going on?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Man? I'll tell you know, it's funny when you watch
some of this stuff. It's like, you know, I know,
people a while back thought.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Justin Bieber was crazy and he had gotten, you know,
he had found some religion, and people were like thinking
that he was just being taken advantage of because he
was spending a lot of time with his pastor and all.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think that's just a lot of people. I think
that's him.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
And it's been with some other folks trying to reconcile
some of the things that they have done and seen
and things they didn't say anything about, probably some things
they participated in, and they're trying to get their mind
and their body and their heart and their spirit right
after all that.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
M you know, that's a good point, man.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I forgot all about Bieber and this wild stage and stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
So you never know, man, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
I mean look at him, Bieber, with that you had,
you had you know, what's his name, Mace.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know, he went and got all, you know, all
with his religion.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
And then you had the same thing with Craig Mack
got that way, and he was.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Like, you wouldn't even when he passed away, He wouldn't
even let Ditty or any.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Of those people in the music industry pay for anything.
They were talking about they want to pay for his funeral.
And he told, you know, he told his religious community
don't let him pay for anything, don't come, don't let
him see that. I don't want him to have anything
to do with this. He was completely done.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's a good point that they all got ties with
Diddy too, and they all needed the Lord after that.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's some people who I
think there's.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Some people who find, you know, find their way just
doing whatever.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
I think there's some people that are just like, I'm
just gonna try and fade away into the darkness. Other
people stay in the midst of it. Other people are
just like, I know better than.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
This, and I still did it, and now I need
to get right, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, if you have that groundwork of a religious foundation
at a young age and then you go off into
that type of world and then you start doing stuff
or whatever, you can have a guilty conscience or maybe
conflicting and things or you know, because remember even Vanity
had that, that's before Diddy, but you know she'd ended

(07:21):
up changing and stuff, so yeah, she wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Go with the Lord state that way until she passed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, and a lot of people that that alludes to,
like what I was saying earlier, not to justify what
this freak off and all this stuff may happened, but
everybody know it. Like Ey's wise shut people been in
our cast and couch and stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
A lot of people may not.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Know, but Brando was notorious for allegedly doing everybody in Hollywood,
men and women, even Richard Pryor. Allegedly Marlon Brando and
Richard Pryor had some allegedly go down. I don't know
if you ever heard that or whatever, but I.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Remember hearing some stuff not with Brandow.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
I've heard that Richard Pryor was, you know, was into
some stuff, you know, and this was this was back
in the day before it was kosher to really talk
about gay stuff or buy stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
And he was sort of halfway out and open with.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
It about some of the things that have happened to him.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
But I think part of that was because you know,
he was raised in.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
A basically a in a in a brothel, you know.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
And so a lot of stuff he experienced and saw
a lot of things. I think in that in that sense,
he was probably just more open with sexuality in some
respects and more free to talk about things because it
wasn't as tamboo to him.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
After you see certain things. At a certain age, it
becomes less taboo, that's true.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
And in his day, even for black men, you still
couldn't come out being saying I was doing this and
that he would have lost a lot of credibility in
the community saying that. So yeah, yeah, especially with Marlon
Brando at that So you know, but you know, but.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
It's just it just tells you there's there's just like there's.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
So much and you know in Hollywood and the music industry,
there's just it's it's I mean, it's it's really it's
just crazy because you think about you.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Think about all the people.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
They folks talk about these people trying to get it,
trying to come up and make it, they're getting taken
advantage of. And you often hear about this and you think,
like all either young people or new people trying.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
To break in.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
But then you hear about stories like this where these
are people that have been in the game, they're established
in the game, and they're still being sort of I
don't want to say.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Forced into it, but I mean if somebody's like.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
I got freak off tapes, so you're coming back to.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Our parties otherwise, you know, what do what do you do, right, I.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Mean, and that that's uh, that same thing about uh,
when people would talk about the blackmail basically in the industry,
and when people were ledge about uh, you know, Illuminati
and all of that in the industry or who has
this or make people do that to get into business
and things. Uh, you know, it don't look good when

(10:25):
all of that is happening with that with certain tapes
and things, because they said they got a whole bunch
of tapes from his house and it was what cameras
in every room and things, so you know, hidden cameras though.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know, so you know, it's you know, it's interesting
too if you if you look at and I and
I hate to s I hate to say it like this,
but there's there's something to be said about somewhat because
a lot of this stuff they talked about was you know,
you had drugging people and stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
But there was also a lot of threats of violence.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
And did he used to run around with bodyguards that
were armed and threatened to beat people.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Up or beat people up.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
But when you look at someone who else who's not
afraid to use violence as a tool, and you look
at someone like fifty who was basically like, I'm not
afraid of you.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I'm not afraid of you. You have guns.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I have guns. You know I've been shot nine times.
If the Lord wants me gone, he could have had
me gone at any one of those nine. He obviously
decided he wanted me here for a reason. I'm not
afraid of you.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
And for years talk shit about did he For years
was telling.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
People this dude was gay, had all kinds of weird
freaky stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
He did and get gun. He was unafraid.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
And I think that's one of those things that's that's
a bit of a reminder with people.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's like if people can do.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Things to you, if you're afraid, if you basically just
say I don't really care.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
It's like someone trying to get blackmailed.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
If some if some CEO had an affair and he's
like some He's like, I know you have an affair.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I'm gonna tell your wife, right.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
They tell her, Tell her, I'm not gonna pay you anything.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Tell her if you think if you think that's gonna
I'd rather pay my wife, then pay you. If she's
gonna divorce me over, I rather give her money.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
They give it to you right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
And then also it's also when he know that people
want stuff from him, like they want in the industry
or they want to have a career or whatever this
or that, just like, uh, it's a new story came
out about a massage therapist or or whatever that came
h and he did he invited him and allegedly they

(12:41):
he went down on him and they drugged him or whatever,
and he couldn't resist and was passed around like a
party favor. It's like these people don't reveal this stuff
until everybody does, because he wanted to not say it
and then lose clients potentially or not get that access
or whatever. So you know, you try not to say

(13:01):
this and that, and then you get put in a
bad situation because you don't want violence because you're afraid
of that, or you're afraid of careers suicide so to speak,
possibly blacklisted. And then you know, it's kind of like
manipulation because you think, oh, man, this person's too big,
you know, to fail, too big to go down. But

(13:24):
you know, if you I don't know, man, it's like
it's hard to prove where the crime is. So what
I look at is like all of this stuff could
be considered weird, crazy, whatever, But where's the crime. So
you know, if they saying that they put that stuff in,

(13:46):
even if he put that.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
You got to show he did it, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
You're drugging people. If you're drugging people, I mean, that's
that's a crime. It's like, I mean, you can't.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I mean, but it's a thousand bottles.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Who did it? He did it, He sat there with
a But it doesn't matter who did it though, It
doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
It's just like how they talk about if you go
to a frat parties. These girls, they go to a
frat party and they even if they drink themselves into
a stupor they sit up there and drink and drinking,
drink until they're so drunk they can't even barely stand up,
or they pass out and they go to sleep. They
go to some bed in the upstairs and go to sleep,
and the guys come.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
In and just basically run a train on her. They
all committed rate. Yeah, it doesn't matter how.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
It doesn't matter how she got incapacitated. It doesn't matter
how she got drunk or how she got high.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
It doesn't matter. It's the fact that she is and
they took advantage of her.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
But I'm looking at it is like this.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
So if he could say he didn't know, he's got
some type of in a way, because if it's sat
many or something, I don't know how many was laced
or whatever. If it's a thousand, you gotta know how
you not know a thousand was in your possession. They
all laced. But I mean, yeah, so come on and
we'll We've all been there.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I have been out at times.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I have gone out on dates with girls when I
was single and they've gotten too drunk and they're like,
they want to do it, and I'm just.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Like, I'm not doing it. You're too drunk. I don't like.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
I know you're saying you want to, but you're too
drunk that I feel like you're too drunk to consent.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I'm cool. We can wait till tomorrow, you.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Know, And just I mean this, ye see, And then
him at these parties. I think a lot of these people,
I mean, the date break drug I think is his
biggest problem. They saying the trafficking and stuff. I don't
know about that. So what if somebody I don't understand

(15:45):
that maybe you can explain it to me. But so
what if he gave a woman transportation to because they
try to what make it seem like he a pimp?
Or what if he provided transportation and then they came
and then they had or what you.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Don't even have to be You don't even have to
be a pimp.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
It could just simply be that you you brought somebody
across state lines for like.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
You if you pay, like that's how they got Elliott Spencer,
if you paid politicians.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
You pay a prostitute and you say, hey, I know
you're in New York, but I'm doing I'm gonna be
in DC for the.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Weekend and can you come spend the weekend.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
With me at my hotel? And she's like yeah, great,
So you pay her. She catches a train, comes down
to visit. What you spends the weekend? Boom, you're now
guilty of sex traffic.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
She has to be a prostitute, though.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well you pay, she didn't have to be. I mean,
I guess if you pay for it.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
So if I have a girl that I meet online
and I say, hey, why don't you come down here
for the weekend and cheer with me? And I'll pay
for your plane ticket and she flies down and chairs
with me and we have sex and then leave. She
can say our sex trafficked.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Though there is a distinct possibility that she could, because
I mean, if it's just something where you guys were just.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Playing on chilling, that's one thing.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
But if you if you brought her out for the
explicit purpose of having sex and she knew that's what
it was, and then yeah, they could say that you
were sex, that she was sex trafficked, you know, like
if she said I came out there, I knew that,
Like I went out there, I knew what the expectation was.
He was gonna fly me out there to you know,

(17:28):
to play titty winks, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
So hey, you weren't coming to redecorate.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Gonna do that unless they have unless they need a
reason to come after you, they can come after you.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Right right, right right. Of course.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's why I'm like thinking this is coming up now
because the whole because of course we of her conspiracy theories.
Me myself, I do like a good conspiracy theory.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
They are juicy.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
And the reason why this is what is so juicy
is because in the end of the day, they saying
all this is coming because he came with the lawsuit
against the tequila companies and things, and now all of
this stuff is starting to come out. Now they didn't
unleash the floodgates, and now it's like the pile on.
And it's also hurting him for his own court case

(18:19):
with these cases because he's already convicted in the court
of public opinion. Now he's he gonna get an impartial
jewelry anywhere in America pretty much. And then this is
gonna take up all his money, time and focus to
be trying to deal with suing them, which you know
that ain't gonna work out.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I mean, here's this is this is.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
I mean, I've heard some pretty horrible stories, Like there
was a story reading about about a dude he basically
forcibly raped in a in a back room at a Macy's.
They talked about this guy was working for.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
At a Macy's. He was still shopping at Macy's.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Macy's was having it was uh, I guess was a
big proprietor Sean John stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, what the.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Guy was working.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think he was working for like Boo Boo or somebody.
He's working for some other brand apparently did. He was
upset that this guy because he was there doing he
was there to do some big Shawn John promotion and
they didn't. He was upset the guy was there and
he was working, and he was like, why is he here?

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Basically did he and his arm guards forced this guy
into the back room and at.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Gunpoint forced this dude to suck.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Day's dick and and the dude was like, the dude
was traumatized by it, but he's like, what am I
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I had guns on me, he said. Right after this
was over, he said, thed.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
He just grabbed like armfuls of Sean John stuff, went
went out front and started throwing out free clothes to
people like nothing ever happened.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
And he was like, he reported it. The guy was like,
I reported it to Macy's security. I reported, He said,
he reported it.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
To his employer and it wasn't. I think he said
it wasn't, but maybe a few days or a week
later or something that.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
They fired him.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Apparently they apparently it was like Macy's secure contacted his
contacted his his job, his whenever that brand was and said, hey,
if you want to keep doing business here, you need
to fire this guy and had him fired.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
And wow, this guy is.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
One of the He's one of the lawsuits that this
that this attorney from Houston has you know where he
said he has one hundred and fifty something people or
whatever that are filing suits against Diddy.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
He's one of them. And but that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
It's like, if even if all of this is coming
about because he filed some loss earth because he's you know,
his lawsuit he has with this tequila company or whatever,
even if that's the case, why this stuff is coming
to light, it doesn't mean that he didn't do the dirt.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
He's still right. That's true. That's true. That's true.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
He still did all of it.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
The only thing is is that he forgot the golden rule.
You're protecting as long as you're making people money.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
And you bite the hand that feeds you.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Also, yeah, once you start saying like nah, I want
I want this, I want that, and now you're saying
I want you to take I want to take your money.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
You don't get to make money off of me like that.
I want more.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
But also keep in mind that's also tie in with
the conspiracy of putting the black man back in this
place getting too big. Whether it's a Cosby or Kelly
or whoever. Yeah, they may have done these things, but
the powers that be didn't care.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
They looked the other way for years because they may do.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
The things too, not saying it's okay for either way,
but it's like blackmail. They all doing it or whatever,
and they hold it on you if you ever think
you can do this, if you ever think you whatever
will bop bop and ruin your reputation and do this
and that, whether it's true or not. That's the good

(22:02):
thing about conspiracies. It's hard to prove.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
You never know, but it's hard to prove. And this
is the other part.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
This is the other part that gets me because I've
seen a lot of black folks online talking about, oh,
this is just a white man about doing this and
doing that, and they say, oh, what about Weinstein? Oh
what about this person? What about that person? What about Epstein?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I'm like, first of all, Epstein's asses did.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
They locked his ass up and then they killed him
in his jail cell.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
So don't give me what about Epstein.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Although somebody told me recently.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
That he knows security guards and they believe that he's.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Believe he alive.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I don't know, that's the thing. They keep going and
going and going. Somebody probably think Elver's still alive. He'd
be one hundred if he.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Was, you know.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
But you know the thing is is that, like I mean,
these people are getting locked up and they're starting to come.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
After these people and you know, for whatever reason.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
And to me, I think I look at like this
if they're coming at you because they're thinking they're trying
to keep the black man in line, or.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Because you're trying.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
To take money from them, where they feel like, hey,
you know, we gave you an opportunity, you're making plenty
of money. Now you're trying to take more. Yeah, maybe
we're taking more than what we should. Whatever the case
may be, the fact of the matter is that dirty
shit that they're coming after you for you did it,
And so I have no sympathy for you none.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
If you set up there and you date raped anybody,
I don't care they.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
I know there's a lot of focus on the fact
that some of these kids, that these people.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Were kids at the time fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Don't get me wrong, that's terrible, horrible, whatever, But it
to me is just as there's no difference to me
if you date raped a twenty eight year old massage therapist,
or you know, a thirty two year old singer or
rapper or you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Now, where I don't have as much sympathy for is
when you have sex workers out there, if they if
they know the deal. Because some of these sex workers
apparently went to multiple parties, they became sort of staples.
If you if you know, you're got a job right
and you're expected to you're expected to take drugs and
have sex with whoever you want to whoever.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
It is okay if you go.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
I mean maybe the first time you go and you're like, no,
I don't really want to get hides, I'm cool with
all the sex stuff. But you're like, they say, now
you need to drink this, you need to take that,
and you do it, and then the next time you
go back and them back and back, you know what
the deal is.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
You know, so like, uh, superhead, although she wasn't really
getting paid a lot, but she kept coming back and
being involved, which that's another thing that shows that culture.
And also if you listen to music from that time,
I saw they kind of allude to a lot of
stuff of what's going on and what these free co

(25:05):
ops and stuff. To a certain extent, you know, that's
like the dream, uh, to a certain extent.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
But uh, anyway, people and.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
There's a lot of people out there, there's a lot.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Of people who are just absolutely enthralled.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
With celebrity culture. They love it. They are they are
just obsessed with it, and they.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Are willing to do anything to be around celebrities, just
to be in their proximity. Like I have done a
fair amount of work around and with celebrities when I
was you know, I lived down in California. I'm a
photography and I worked for a number of record labels
and I was around quite a few of them. And

(25:50):
you know, at first, if you have if you're a
fan of somebody, maybe it's kind of cool to be around.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
But then after you know, fifteen minutes, you're.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Like, huh, it's just a regular motherfucker, just you know,
And and that's what it is. You talk to them,
they talk back. You guys are sitting there chit chatting
in that status. No, it's it's no big deal.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
But one thing that I realized early on is like.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
I don't want to. I don't wanna go. Like if
someone said, hey, you want.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
To go on this yacht party, Na, I'm good.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
Because these are people who could do it whenever they want,
and there's basically no real consequences, you know, And so
if something happens to.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
You, there's no real recourse.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
You know, if you go on some yacht party and
somebody gets mad at you and hits you over the
head with a bottle and and really hurts you or
kills you, what I mean, depending on who it is,
They're just gonna cover it up.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
They're gonna make it seem like you that's a go,
or you slipped and hit your head.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Because there's too much money these people are generating.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
For other folks, expectly white folks.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
There's too much money to be made for them to
let that all go by the wayside because of some
unknown person like me, some random hot chick that's off Instagram.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
You mean nothing to them.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I never thought about it like that as far as
if something happened to you, they just write it off
or get a lawyer or whatever, and then it'll be
the end of it. Pretty much it's be like, oh,
it was some accident or this or that.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Da da da da.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
So you know, yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
They pay or maybe they pay you a you know,
maybe they pay your family or somebody a million dollars
or two million dollars to shut up and and for
for the everge person. That's a lot of money for them.
You know, it's maybe it's.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Just a that's your life though, So you know, I
don't care that my family got the money.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I want to live.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Shit, they can go to work. Take they ask to work. Yeah,
take y'all ass to work. Give me my life back
whatever the hell it is, and you keep your money.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
If you want to give me the.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Money and I live and not be I can recover
or something fine. Other than that, Look, I got another
one I want to show you right quick. Another dropping
like it when it rains it pours. But uh j
Loo husband who we ain't heard from in so long.
Uh this the first one I believe, not Mark Anthony,

(28:14):
And it says that, you know, he's claiming that these
free all parties was the reason why they had the divorce.
And another conspiracy theory is that's why Ben Affleck left
early is because this this recent time is because he
got the heads up that a lot of her you know,

(28:35):
info was about to drop. So it says that Ohanni Noah,
Jlo's first husband took the social media to distance himself
from all the parties. And he said in the post
about the Instagram you know and the free calls on

(28:56):
his look at j Loo back in the day. And
this really helped blow her up in the music career
being with puff because I know you remember, and I
remember at this time. A lot of younger people may not,
but she was questionable into going into the music career
because she barely was doing the movies with Selena.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
She went from and Living Color.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Now she was doing this Genny from the block, and
this really put her on the map, but it solidified
her with some street.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Cred a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
But yeah, it said he say, oh ask her about
the sex tapes, he added and the seven hundred and
thirty four dial dos in the baby oils.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
It said he said, I'm not on the list.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
He put on the post to those people in the
media outlets asking if I ever went to or participated
in that piece of shit?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Did these freak off parties? No and no, never, but.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
My ex wife j Lo did asked her. He said
a wow and asked her about the did whooie.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
And it says that.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
He continued urging the public to question her regarding the
explicit recordings and other questionable items federal agents claimed to
have found during the investigation in the combs. And this
is him and her and that's what ben a flack.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Allegedly.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
One of the conspiracy theories is he has friends and
stuff in the FBI and things, and they gave him
a heads up like, hey, it don't look good, bro.
The mayor even gave gave him some info, you know,
because they was married just now. He left quick and
got a house their second time around, second time around,

(30:45):
which they looked like they was gonna be there for
good this time. But that first time they was together
was after this ditty stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
So he was with the new one.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
That's the thing that I had one time talked about
on this about relationships, and some people was telling me,
especially women, that I didn't need to know this, But
this is the thing. If I meet you, okay whatever,
after a certain age, you don't know a person. You
only know what they tell you. So you know what

(31:17):
I mean, so after I meet you at it we
all past that age now, So if I meet you,
you can be brand new, but don't not tell me
your past. Like I don't want to be in love
with you and we about to get married, but you
never told me you was a crackhead or a whole
for ten years, or you did this or that, And

(31:38):
they be like, but why I need to tell you that?
Because I ain't that person now, Cause if I don't
know you fully, you know what I mean, I could
be somewhere and then people be thinking that they could
still give you twenty dollars or something. Now I'm looking stupid,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
So you know, I mean, it's true.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
It's sort of like you can't, you know, you can't
somebody and he seems like, you know, It's like you
meet some dude and he seems like he's a great guy,
nice job, and then you find.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Out later like the dude was locked up fifteen years from.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Murder exactly, Like wait, what exactly?

Speaker 2 (32:13):
You never mentioned that?

Speaker 4 (32:14):
You'll be like, it's not me, it's not who I am.
I don't mess with that life anymore. I don't mess
with those people. I don't run with that crowd anymore.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
It's not me, okay, But but that's a big part
of your life. Yeah, you know, that's a part of
why you made a change and became the person that
you are today.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Right, And if you're talking about being with someone, you deserve.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
To know these things. Yes, I agree, I agreed. You know,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
I mean when you look at when you look at
I mean, I don't know what ben affleck thing is,
I kind of look at it like he wasn't wholly
ignorant to this. He I mean, he knew j Lo
back in the day, and he knows.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
He didn't know about the freak off parties.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's why I feel like she could have probably been
able to tell him at least especially this second time around,
but she probably felt like, well, I never told him
the first time.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
I think the reason why if he because of that.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
I think he's the embarrassment.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Because he didn't know, but because everybody else was about
to know about to go public.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
You know what, that's a good point. That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Because there are there are a lot of like there.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
You will hear this at times, but especially with politicians
and their wives they'll say, you can do what you want.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
To do, just don't bring it back an embarrassment.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Don't don't let the whole world know.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Like when they finally decide they have to leave, it's
not because they didn't know their husband or their wife
was cheating. It was because everybody else found out. And
now they're like, I can't sit up here and.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Look like booble the fool in public.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
You you know you did what you did, but now
you but now you dragged my name to the muddy
and you made me ashamed because I'm.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Looking like a fool because you did this and everybody
knows that it happened to me. So now I have
to do something right.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
And that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Now let me drop this on you right here. Another
news story to drop, and this one is weird to
me because this brother been quiet the whole time since
he got sick. But on Ricky Smiley, it says Jamie
Fox allegedly claims did he drugged him leading to his stroke. Now,

(34:26):
he been quiet all this time and we ain't really
heard what happened to him. But now it's saying that
in his upcoming Netflix comedy special, what had really happened
was it? Says he made a startling claim that Diddy
was behind the stroke he suffered a year ago, and
he said that. Fox, who's in the middle of filming

(34:50):
this special, goes into detail about what transpired before, during,
and after the healthscare, saying Diddy was responsible for me
my stroke. Now he could be joking being a comedian
and saying, hey, he drugged me and that's what happened
to me. But then again, who knows. What's your thoughts

(35:13):
on that? You think he just joking possibly or some
truth behind it or what.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I mean? People could joke about the truth all they want.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
I think there's oftentimes that people say things that will
laughing matter to make it more palatable and digestible for people,
But it's still truth, you know.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
That comedy right there.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Jammie Fox has been known to be one of those
sort of freaky type dudes that was always up there
getting with women.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
And having crazy parties and all that stuff. He was
in that light. He was a lifestyle.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
There's a lot of people in Hollywood that like, there
was an article about Denzel and he was at a
party with his wife and apparently he used to say,
if you go to a dinny party, you.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Need to leave before the devil shows up, right, right?

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I alluded to that earlier. Yeah, he got mad.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
He felt disrespected or something because they was too much
going on too early.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
He felt like, hey, you know, hey, you ain't even
appreciating it. I'm here with my wife. Y'all crazy, you know.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
So you know, so then zell a real one.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
I mean, it sounds like Jamie Fox was probably there
doing his thing. I mean, maybe he did get drugged
and that caused a stroke, but I'm just it doesn't
seem I mean, he.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Probably knew what was going on at these parties, which
was the reason why he was there. You know, It's
just it's hard.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
I mean, don't get me wrong. Nobody deserves to be drugged.
Like you don't want to be drugged against.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Your will, you know. Yeah. But at the same.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Time, it's like, you know what these parties are about.
You have Sometimes you just have to stay away. Like
if you go there and you're thinking, hey, I'm too
big to be taking advantage of I'm too big for
this to happen.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
He ain't no better than do this to me. But
you're at a party.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
If you get drugged and and then somebody takes some
video of you getting your back blown out by some
gay porn star. You can think you're too big, but
what are you gonna do now that video exists?

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah, especially in the black community.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
And and what you're saying about too big, that's perfect
to what is this? Last one I want to bring
up is this dude who's a pro athlete and he
said that he went to a Diddy Combs party. This
is People magazine, and it's saying that he went to
a Diddy Combs party and uh, that was sexually assaulted.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
And it says that.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
When he went there, let's say he had a lot
of high profile guests there. And this said this athlete
owns a luxury car and jewelry rental business, and that
Combs instructed him to meet in a private office. It
says that the planters say, once in the office with Colms,
he noticed that the founder was intoxicated, allegedly approached him

(38:12):
and exposed his genitals. Combs then allegedly grabbed the plane
of genitals through his pants and squeezed them in a
rough sexual manner. The Plane of claims that the situation
escalated until an unidentified pro athlete entered the room and intervened.
It says the man was one of five plain offs,

(38:33):
one of whom was a woman who says she was
taking advantage of by the mogul in two thousand when
she was thirteen, and filed lawsuits against Combs in the
Southern District of New York on Sunday. And the lawsuits
are just the latest of a series filed in the
last eleven months, beginning with Cassie. He really messed up

(38:56):
with that boy. He should have stopped that one before. Oh,
he messed up with that one boy. Boor boor boy,
and say the most recent players being represented.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
This is all.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
The part I wanted to say is that it's about
a hundred He's representing one hundred people.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
And it's not a class action. They all are individual cases.
That's just crazy. That can damn their bankrupt him right
there with one hundred different law lawsuits and he got
to have all these damn attorneys and the bill running up,
and they know they got them by the balls like
he wanted to have be allegedly.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
I'm assuming that, I'm assuming that he knew this stuff
was coming down.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
The Pike and say, since they did these raids, I'm assuming.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
That he was smart enough to start moving his money,
you know, I'm sure, I'm assuming he's smart enough to
start putting his money in trust and have those trust
in there, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
In his kids mom's name.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Name, so that when they come for him, there's very
little left for anybody to get.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, he gonna probably bankrupt bad boy.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah, so because it's you know, i mean, who knows,
maybe maybe something Maybe not to say that it's gonna
be a good thing, but maybe some of the good
things that will come out of this. Maybe some of
these bad boy artists that were complaining about not getting
their publishing and all this stuff, maybe some of them
will be able to get their publishing back as they'll
be on the auction block for a for a very

(40:33):
low price, since he's going to be needing cash.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
These attorneys, these attorneys seem.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Like they're great and they're your friends, and they are
as long as you can afford to pay him there
you know, they're six fifteen an hour, seven hundred an
hour or whatever they're charging. You know, because once you
can't afford to pay that anymore, you know.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
This is what I was looking for that.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
That article I read was was a good But this
is the one where he was talking about being a
big guy. This dude's a personal trainer, and he said
he got passed around like a party favor. He said,
he came there, they took his phone, they made him
sign an NDA, and then made him drink like a

(41:19):
voker and cranberry drink or something. And next thing he knows,
let's see where does it say this is after the
BT Lifetime Achievement awards. This is when he went to
this party and it said that it was an after party.
A fashion designer told him that Comebs was impressed with

(41:40):
his fitness regiment and wanted to meet him in person,
and he said he hoped attended the party would help
advance his career, so he agreed to go. Upon arrival
at the Hollywood Hills mansion, he was required to sign
the NDA, handed the drink that looked like tequila soda
with cranberry juice, and then he began to feel disoriented,

(42:01):
dizzy and weak and say he pro Combs later approached
the trainer in a smaller room where multiple celebrities were
engaged in group sex activities. They removed his pants and
performed non consensual oral sex on him. It Combs then
allegedly coursed the trainer to performing oral sex on another

(42:22):
unnamed celebrity identified only as Celebrity eight.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Who is these people? That's the thing, Like, who are
these people? Do they know that this person was this way?

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Because they could either be guilty or be saying corroborating
with Diddy that hey, no, this person was willing. I
don't know, but you know, a lot of this stuff
so to.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Me, like some of these other folks were willing.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
It sounds like they were there doing their thing, partying.
And you know, people always talk about all this freaky stuff,
and they talk about all the gay stuff that happens
in Hollywood. Because if you're up there and you're thinking, like, okay,
you know what, maybe your natural inclination is not to
be with women or to be with men, but you're like,

(43:09):
screw it.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
If I do it, I'm gonna end up getting I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Next end up getting the NeXT's gonna actually get a
release date.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
They go in the room and it's TD, Jake's, Steven Hawkins, Diddy,
you know, Rick Ross.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
They like God to get in there where you fit
Goden slab.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Or something be like, oh my god, ah.

Speaker 8 (43:39):
I mean it sounds it sounds crazy, but that's just
one of those things like people, you know, people, people
just I mean that culture is so.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
You know, it's so crazy because these are these are
people who are so used to getting.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Everything they want.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
They can get whatever they want because they're wealthy and
they can afford to pay for things that they want.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Right.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
They're famous and and people want to be next to them,
so they're willing to do things they wouldn't normally do.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah and look the other way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, and they are they are stronger than us, yeah,
they And they're stronger than the average person because of
their wealth. It takes a bigger group, like possibly this
tequila situation with Vanguard and black Rock or whatever to
bring something to the to slow it down, or Cassie

(44:40):
having enough with her information and videos and things to
have an attorney that was like, we got this enough
to to take him, you know, serious like that, although
that is also a little questionable with me as well.
I mean, yeah, he did kick her in the head
and do those things, but wasn't she robbing him? I mean,

(45:03):
not to say that's a verified but he handled his
street wise.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
You tried to steal from me. I caught you, I
kicked you in the head, kicked your ass. I left
it alone.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
What he should have did is catch her and called
the police, and then that couldn't have been brought back
against him. But when you think, well, I ain't call
the cops on her. I didn't want to do this
and that, and they can come back on you. Where
there it's cops on you, and now you look bad
and did this and that as well. So you know,

(45:35):
I don't know. Sometimes the streetway bites you in the
end a lot of times, you know so, but that's you.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
You no longer get the the privilege of acting like
a street nigga.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Right, you're worth to have a million dollars. You're right,
you're right, you got too much to lose. You just don't.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
People don't look at you as a street nigger anymore.
They're just like, no, you don't get like if you know,
let's just say.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I don't know where y'all tripping.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
I'm trying to think of some random somebody knew who's
coming up that you know that somebody might be like, oh,
this is just some street.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
He's one album Mexicant, you.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Know, but then he's been around forever riding himself on
being like this big social you.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Know, that's true.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
White parties in the Hamptons and all that.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
People could be like that. Aren't your jewelry ensured? Couldn't
you buy some more? Why did you have to kick her?
Why did you have to do that? Which I guess
they got a good point, but it could have been sentimental.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
You don't get the benefit, especially nowadays with all of
this stuff with you know, we I mean, the whole
me too thing and all that stuff has been But
you don't get any slack. One you're running through the
halls with a talent on kicking your girlfriend in the
head and she's laying there basically in the fetal position,
just completely defeated and give it up.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
You don't, You don't, you.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
Don't get any I mean you think about the dude
in the elevator, the one where.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
They the football player Ray Rice.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, yeah, I was messing.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
I mean, there's been too much stuff where people have
been seen doing too much.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
You just don't.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
You don't get any slack anymore, you you know, Yeah,
I mean if you're a woman. Sure, because look at
I mean, I mean, what's her name?

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Solange jay Z and Amber heard whether she do?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
People said was what did he do? Right?

Speaker 4 (47:31):
I mean, you know, it's just a complete I mean,
that was a complete hypocrisy. They should have been like,
she needs to be she needs to be canceled like
everyone else.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
But his question was what did he do?

Speaker 1 (47:43):
And if he would have called the police and then
said assault, then they would have looked bad on him
as well. So it's nothing he could do but just
stay silent, which is.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
What he did.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
But yeah, they messed up big bird. In the comments,
he said, uh, when alluding to when I was just
talking about Jamie Fox and stuff, he say, that's why
Jerry Jones felt comfortable watching the Cowboy practice with Jamie
Fox talking about the players genitals on Jamie Fox Live video.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Did you see that? Are you familiar with what he
talking about?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Okay, so about a week or two ago, this is hilarious.
I do gotta save on my Instagram somewhere. But Jerry
Jones is sitting this Jamie Fox and Jerry Jones sitting
in the stands watching the Cowboys practice.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
And Jerry Jones is like, ooh, look at him.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
He got a six he's six six two twenty, got
a thirty inch.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Vertical and a eight inch.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Cock on him.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
He's like, he got a he run a six six,
a thirty inch vertical, got an eight inch cock on him.
Ooh sounded like slave measurements, you know, when they had
him at the auction block. Yeah, And Jamie Fox ain't
saying nothing, and Jamie Fox is the whole time, Jerry
Jones is talking and Jamie Fox is just.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Holding the phone, not saying nothing. And you can see
Jerry Jones.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Behind him and he old the phone and Jerry Jones
is behind him, like behind him and to the left,
and Jerry Jones is just talking, but he looking forward.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
He don't even see Jamie Fox. And then he say that.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
And then when he say he got an eight inch
cock on him and Jerry, Jamie Fox be like and
then he turned it off. He'd be like that he
got an eight inch cock on them? Like what the hell?

Speaker 4 (49:29):
I don't I don't say it's not surprising at all,
because I mean, it's not like we haven't heard Jerry
Jones talk about all kinds of craziness like that, and
it does. It sounds like it's some slave, some slave
auction ship that he was doing. They need to get
rid of him, just like they got rid of what's

(49:51):
his name, Sterling from the Clipper.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
They get they need to get rid of him.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
And that's what are he did. He'd the number one
owner as far as been there the longest.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Now.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I remember when he was the newest in the nineties
when he bought the Cowboys, remember that, and they was
all talking about how much he paid and stuff. But
now it's the number one franchise and value and all
of that or whatever.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
But yeah, he needs to go. He be gone soon.
And look how he is.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
He's he's barely moving around and stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
So unfortunate. I don't wish nobody.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
But but then that bothers me is that when you
see people that have been around long enough, like Jammie Fox,
it just shows, like I know, people look at them
and they think and they think like, oh, he's been
around for this long and he has so such an
a certain amount of power in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
It really shows they have no power. They have no
power in.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Hollywood when you're when you're around that, it's a big
difference between someone who makes two three four million dollars
a movie versus a bona fide billionaire, right, and you're
in you're afraid to say anything. You're afraid to speak
up for yourself or for your people because you're afraid

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that you're going to be basically put out the pasture
and you're not gonna work anymore.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Well, that's the problem with the whole industry is you're
depending on somebody else to give you your job. It's not
like you could be a photographer and just start doing it,
or you can go and work somewhere and do you
and it's not it's subjective. You could be the greatest
singer and they still won't give you a record deal,
or they can still put you out, you know what
I mean just so, or the greatest actor and they

(51:34):
still won't cast you. We don't think you good enough.
And who could you go complain to and say they
not doing they what we didn't think you was right
for the part? What you're gonna say they being racist
or prejudice. And so that's why they got a lot
of these people by the balls until you get to
that higher astalm.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
And that's why, and that's why it's so important. I
think that that black folks, if we can have our
own stuff.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Yes, I don't like him, but Tyler Perry has been able.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
To do some of the things he's done because he
has his own stuff.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
If somebody says no, you can't make that type of
movie or you can't make that type of TV show,
he simply says, yes, I can, right, and then.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
He goes and does it because he owns his own shit.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Which is on the side note, while I'm about to
produce my own comedy special and just put it on YouTube.
It ain't gonna be fancy and it ain't gonna be
all of that. But hey, instead of waiting for Netflix
or waiting for this, or trying to wait for somebody
to say, hey, we think you good enough, I'll put
it out there and let the fans decide if you
like it and if it's good enough. And then as

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we go and hey, you got more ownership over your stuff,
you know.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
You put something out there like that and it gets
on YouTube and the next thing you know, your YouTube
comedy special has.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Three four hundred thousand million views. Whatever. All of a sudden,
people are paying attention.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
They're thinking like, wait a minute, If this dude can
get a million people watching on YouTube, these could have
been eyeballs watching us on Netflix right at HBO or
Paramount or wherever.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Else, especially with their promotions and stuff. So yeah, and
I think part of.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
The and you know, part of the problem is sometimes
is that you get people who start to do stuff
on YouTube and they blow up, and then it becomes Okay,
do I want to go over to one of these
other platforms. Do I want to go to Netflix? Do
I want to go to Showtime? Do I want to
go to HBO? Because now I'm gonna have to play
by their rules and I'm gonna have to go and

(53:40):
work with them for their money, whereas right now I'm handling.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
All this stuff, you know.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
And that's kind of one of those things like what
kat Walls was talking about when he was on Club
Sha Shay.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
He was like, I did my own tours.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
I didn't depend on these other people do this stuff
for me, and.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
So I had to negotiate with money.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
But I just did it. And so I made money
and I brought people on the road with me that
likely we're never gonna get offered an opportunity, but they
were funny and they made money.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
You know, yeah, yeah, And I.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
You know, I understand that there's a lot of money
out there to be made with traditional media, and white
folks have a lot of money, but black folks have
a lot of money too. We have a lot of
money to be spent, and sometimes we just need to
remember that. So when we go out there, we can
allow our own people to say, Hey, we like you,

(54:32):
we support you, we want to go spend our We don't.
I mean, because I'll be honest with you, I think
for the most part, it doesn't matter who you're buying.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Your ticket from.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
If you want to go see Chris Rock or Martin
Lawrence or j Moore, it doesn't matter who that ticket
is being if you don't matter if you buy your
ticket through Live Nation or.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Through Ticketmaster or whoever. If you're buying a ticket and
it costs fifty bucks, I don't care who I'm paying.
I just want to go see the artist, right, go
see the comedian.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
I want to go see the singer. Well, I want
to go see the play. I don't really care who's
you know. But if someone tells me, hey, this is
you know, I'm gonna go see this person and I
get to know that I'm.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Helping that person profit more, I'm happier. I'm more happy
to spend my money with them.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
But ultimately, people just want to see their artists, and
people need to remember that and have a little faith
in themselves sometimes and just put it out there.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
And the problem is these gatekeepers that's saying we don't
want to give you this, or we don't think you
good enough. They don't know that they these people could
have an audience and things, but they're preventing it because
they don't think you're gonna be this, so they don't
think you can be on that or do this show,
or sing this song or be in this movie or whatever,

(55:48):
not realizing you don't know what these people can do
all the time. But that's why so many people are
able to get manipulated because they wanted to.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Be pick me, pick me, pick me, pick me.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I mean that's a bad mentality to have, especially with
grown folks and you know, people with power and shut
over him.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
So, you know, switch subjects just for a second, because
I was just thinking about this thing with the whole
Diddy thing, and I was I remember reading this article
or they talked about They talked about Justin Bieber living
with Diddy for a period of time, and I don't
remember what the circumstances were around it, but I think

(56:29):
he was only like fifteen.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Sixteen, Yes, very young.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Let him go live with Diddy for And I was
thinking of myself.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
Yes, what what type of parent? What type of parent
let you, yes, their child go live with some strange
grown ass man.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I don't care if this guy is someone that you've
seen on.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
TV and he lived with us or first at a
younger age, which is even crazy. And first of all,
if I was these grown ass men, wouldn't want this little.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Last kid with me?

Speaker 2 (57:02):
No?

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Yeah, like he got talent and this and that, but
you ain't gonna live with me.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
I even want to be around kids like that. I
don't know like that.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Really, I've come in the studio.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
My niece is staying with me for like a week
or so, so it's my niece and my wife were here.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
She was, you know, she goes to school down the street.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
From me, and she she texted me the other day
when she got off and said, Hey, can my.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Friend come over after school? Off?

Speaker 8 (57:31):
Four?

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I said no.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
I was just like I just said no, it's too late,
you know, not at this short notice.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
But really I was just thinking no because I don't
know this little motherfucker that's coming over.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
I don't know if the boy and girl. I don't
really know. All I know is I'm a grown ass man.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Kid. I don't know you. I don't want you in
my space by myself.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
I'm like, basically like, if you want to have a
friend come over, my wife needs.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
To be here, you know, right, because you don't feel
like watching him do and all that, and you don't
know these kids, and then if something happened, then it's
you by yourself exactly. You've got a lot of liability
by yourself and some kids. Anything happened to be said.
Kids lie, who knows you don't know them?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Kids lie all the time. I got to tell the truth.
Your life is ruin.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
And it ain't your kid, it's your niece. So it
ain't like you gotta go through this all the time.
So hey, I feel you. So what happens, But what kind.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Of but what kind of parents says yes, you can
let your kid now.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
Don't get me wrong, whatever terribleness happens during that time, I'm.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Not saying that it's okay, because it's not.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
It's just like those kids whose parents said, yeah, sure
you can go spend the night with Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Right he.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
How is that okay? How is that okay? Have grown
ass man?

Speaker 1 (58:54):
No, we could have went and visited and I would
have been with him.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
And then after the visit we leaving like what the hell?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
I mean, I don't even get killed? Could I play
with Can your kid come over from a play date?

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (59:10):
My kid could not have went over any of them
places without meet with them, and they definitely wouldn't have
spent the night. And and then also I'm more of going
for me with meeting. If Michael was trying to play
with my kid and talk with my kid more than me,
we're leaving like this is weird. Yeah you know what

(59:30):
I mean. No, that's not. I never been around another
grown person that was more interested in talking to my
kid to meet because I was like at a parent
teacher conference and they talk about their report card or something.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
But like what so, Yeah, that is that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Let me get to a comment right quick that somebody
said that I just wanted to dress for I forget
Damie and Kenny said, did he already gave the artists
they publishing back almost eight months ago?

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Nah, that was a trap.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
He had them try to sign NDA's verse and then
he was only giving them like it was like a
three hundred dollars worth of publishing or something. It was worthless. Basically,
they said they didn't sign it, they didn't take it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
You heard about that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
I didn't hear about that particular one, but it I mean,
I mean when I I've I've heard some of these
stories throughout the years about Diddy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
And publishing rights, I mean when.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
They went, uh, like if you ever if you ever
look up the story about how he handled the publishing
with the locks, it was like, uh, I mean, that
whole thing was a nightmare for them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
I mean they still say every time they put out
new music.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
There to pay him like two three hundred thousand dollars
up front.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
It's rich crazy why?

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
But that said, this is the thing that gets me, right,
This is the thing that gets me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
You have all these dudes running around talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Oh, I'm I'm some street nigger, I'm this and that,
I'm gangster, I'm shooting people, I'm doing this, I'm selling
drugs and blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
I'm like, how come nobody's just straight up killed this
nigga yet? Yeah, how come.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Somebody just didn't say, you know what, homie, I got
you and your family forever?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Go handle this dude. Yeah, I don't know. And then
and then you run around you see mill basically sitting
on this nigga's laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I'm like, what, I visited that one?

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
But uh, I know, did he did have some real
greasy bodyguards?

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Wolf he dead now, but he was known to take
people out, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
But uh yeah, but you no doubt, but there's a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Lot of other greasy niggas out there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
That's true. That is true. That is true.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
And there's a lot of guns out there too, so
it ain't just you know one and you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
I mean, hey, I don't know. Maybe people don't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Hey, in the movies, it seemed like it, why I
don't do this, But in reality, if you got some brains,
you don't wanna take.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
That chance and then you go to jail or do
this and that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
So maybe that maybe he been messing with the right ones,
you know what I mean, he been picking the right ones.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
That ain't gonna do test him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
And uh, you know it is a story that just
came out the the legedly sug Night slap Diddy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Did you see that? I haven't seen that, but I
wouldn't be surprised. Uh, I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I mean, I'm surprised to hear this one of the
first time, cause I ain't never heard that they got
close enough for any uh altercation like that. And then
but then again then Diddy's d bodyguard Wolf who was
now that was with being Math he had to beef
with but m I don't know he he ended up

(01:02:53):
y getting in the shootout with somebody would be in Math,
I believe and ended up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Uh, that wouldn't surprise me. But I mean, you know
it's it's.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
It's interesting with with sure because you know it Shug
Shook was was like if he just dialed it back
like half of like dialed back his gangster about half
a bit, he would have been all right because he
had I mean, he was I don't know about all
of his business acumen, but he was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
He was. He was a very charming guy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
He had good business acumen considering.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Well the start maybe, but considering where he had death
row and took it from his knowledge.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
He was one of those people that you could walk
into a room and he was like you felt there
was like a sense of of like there was like
almost like a sense of danger in some respects.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
But he was also.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
Very charming in a lot of ways where he made
people feel at ease and comfortable, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
He was nice. He wasn't one of those dudes that
was like mean mugging.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
You all the time, and it seemed like that you
look at me, I'm gonna shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
You in the face, you know. Like I was like
I was on a photo shoot.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
And he was at a he was we were at
some uh we were at some studio in La and
I was there to take some behind the scenes photos
for a magazine or something, and he was there and
I think my phone was ringing or.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Something, and it was like it's like they're like, whose
phone is that. I was like, I was like, that's
my phone. Is my girlfriend? She's her birthday?

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
I need to you know, after this, I'm had and
and he was and he said something. I was like, yeah,
she's a big fan of yours, blah blah blah, and
he was like, let me talk to her, and he
basically said, you know, we got on the phone and
wished her happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
He was super cool. He was just like a nice,
normal dude, except he was a big ass dude who
probably would kill people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
You know, I know somebody that I was back.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
He's gangster a little bit. He probably would still be
out of jail and be doing fun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Yeah, I got like a big brother to me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
He was with Death Throw Back in the prime.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
In the nineties, and he didn't know them and seen
a lot from knowing all of these people or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
But although he did have his moments with Sug.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
He said, Sug when he was there, he looked out
he first got there, he was still trying to find
a place and it was far away. Sugar gave him
a place at the mansion to stay, like gone to
stay at the mansion. Gave him like five hundred dollars
in his pocket right then and now his own pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
You know, made sure he was good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Sugar did have a lot of good characteristics about him,
you know, probably what made Tupac fall in love with
him as a friend right away, Because if Sug wanted
you to like him, he knew how to lay it
on thick pretty much when it was time, you know,
so they say let's switch it up. I'll go ahead,

(01:05:56):
which was about to say before I switch it up
to one, you know, the whole.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
This whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
As far as like that's why I just think, like
with people with a lot of these celebrities and people
have money, I just think that not to just say,
might I have a friend of mine that refers to
all of us as normies.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
But I kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
Look at it like it's it's it's probably best for
a lot of people, a lot of us so called normies.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Right stay away from them.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Because if something happens to us, there's nothing that I mean,
there's not a lot of recourse, you know, unless it's
something that's really egregious and they can't avoid it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
It's just like nothing's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
I mean, I yeah, Sugar Knight, if he would have
hit one of those guys, he probably wouldn't be in jail,
but he would ran over to people. So that was,
like you say, kind of egregious. And it was on
the TV set, on camera right exactly, So it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Was like outside of a club, it was on camera
it was, you know, but I remember I remember going
to these video shoots and these music video shoots and
there would be you know, male porn stars that would
show up with with girls.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
And they would refer to them as party.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Favors, and they would be like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna
have some party favorites ready for you and your and
your you know, in your trailer, there's gonna be some
party favors over here whenever you and they would just
roll through with a with a group of three, four
or five girls, and I'm just like, they didn't even
refer to him as people.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
So, dude, was a party favor for real? That the
personal trainer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yeah, yeah, they would refer to them as party They didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
They didn't even they didn't look at them as people.
They didn't refer to them as people. They just referred
to them as just it's just something to do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Right, and yeah, just another something to do another like
a dinner, and like, I'm not trying to get to
know you in your name, shut up, bend over, spread them,
open up, whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
And they don't even want to have to tell you that.
They just want to drug you so that you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Anyone to do that, Just do it all right, right,
just yeah, yeah, and that's down. Yeah, that's crazy. That's
a macro way of looking at that too, because I
worked in corporate America for a while and they didn't
look at people as people either as individuals. They'd be like,
we're short on bodies. Send me two bodies, Like send

(01:08:20):
me two bodies? Literally, like wow, many bodies you got?

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Like bodies, that's what they would call the workers.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
They just need someone to do whatever it is they
need to do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Yeah, it didn't matter, male, female, whatever, how many bodies
you got.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
And it doesn't even make you might think like, oh,
I'm a big time I'm making six hundred grand.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
It doesn't matter if you're making six hundred grand.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
If the person that you're working with is making three
billion dollars a year, they're like, send me bodies.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
I need bodies up here to do this work, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
Yeah, And a lot of people when you're making enough
money or willing to be bodies, you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Know, trying to climb that ladder to get up somewhere higher.
Yeah Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. That's why they
say beware, be careful what you're willing to do for
for fame, say your soul for for trying to go
up there, you end up doing and being the party
favor in this month.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
And you know, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
It's like when you when you look at that, when
you look at like the old Diddy thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
And you look at some of the you know, you
look at what some.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Of these old videos that are starting to resurface with
like Doctor Dre talking about all kinds of the freak
stuff they were happening at their parties, and.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
And that wed and Wild was in the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Yeah, and and people start talking about you know, people
are talking about jay Z and some of the stuff
that's been happened, you know, some of the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
That's happened or not happening whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
All this stuff on some of these old videos that
are surfacing are not aging well you know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
But they're not the nineties and all of that things
freaking I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Mean, I've been tired of them for a while.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
When I look at like the award shows, the Grammys
and the Oscars and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame all stuff, it's
just like, I'm like, it's just a big It's just
like a.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Big masturbatory, you know, self celebration.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
You know, it's just like it's like rich people.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
I mean not saying they're all bad behaved, but you
have a bunch of rich and powerful people doing terrible
stuff to people who don't really have much or they're
trying to make it, and now they're basically being celebrated
or celebrating themselves, and they want us all to sit
around for three hours and watch this big, you know,
just masturbatory jack off session of them saying who won

(01:10:45):
the best picture, who won the Best song, or whoever won.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
It's just like, yeah, I ain't watch them awards show.
I have watched the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
a couple of those clips later, but again, I'll be
seeing too many Conspiracy season things when I watched that
a lot too, so I'd be thinking like, oh man,
and just a lot with that. So anyway, I won't

(01:11:09):
get too much into that one. But yeah, you're right
about the award shows. They just stroking theyself in front
of everybody. I mean, hell, Will Smith smacked the hell
out of Chris Rock and they still gave him a
standing ovation in the award. Nobody, no security, nothing, nobody
did nothing. Nobody worried about Chris Rock. I mean, this
was crazy, but you know he's the one that was

(01:11:32):
the bigger, bigger stars, So that's what happened. If the
smaller star would have smacked the bigger star, and I
ain't talking about size, but in value, you know, it
would have been different, you know, right, But they let
it change. One last subject we switch up before we
get out of here. This actress. Speaking of actresses and

(01:11:55):
the Kendrick. She recently said that she's single after the
seventh abusive relationship and says she won't date a man
unless you are in or have been in therapy. What
do you think about that? I think that's crazy personally.
I mean, yeah, men got a lot going on, and

(01:12:15):
I can get how some women can be scared of
men and things. Y'all may think of things that men don't,
but we think of things that you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
And you know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Therapy in or have been in. I've never been in therapy.
I don't know the way people talk about it these days.
It makes me wonder. It's got me interested, but I
never I don't know. I don't agree with that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
I don't think it matters if somebody's in or has
been in therapy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
I think that there are certain people who have grown
up around or been in.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
These abusive relationships and they find themselves attracted to the
same types of people. That's why you often hear about
these women or in some cases men, who end up
in relationships with the same type.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Of people over and over and over again, and you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Start asking, how are you, how are you constantly with
us like some dude who's putting hands on you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
And that's because I think a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
These people, whether they do it consciously or subconsciously, they
start looking for people or they gravitate towards people who
have the characteristics of someone who's going to be abusive.
For most of us, you know, if we because I
have gone out with girls and I've had girls who

(01:13:39):
I know for sure we're abusive because I've you know,
we've gone out and something will happen, We'll have a.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Little disagreement or something. The first thing they want to
do is and hit me in the chest. And I'm
just like, what the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
A woman punched you in the chest?

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
What the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
And I've been like.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
I've told women before this out in la hit me,
I'm tell you Jude, I hit me, I will.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
I have not hit a woman, and I will never
hit a woman. But if you hit me, I shouldn't
say i'll never at all.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
I have not.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
You hit me like a man, I'm going to hit
you back like one. And so don't put hands on me.
I'm not putting hands on you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Don't put it up. But when I've reckoned, when I've
seen that behavior, my thought is like, I'm out, I'm out.
I don't want to be bothered with you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
I'm still blown away that the woman punched you in
the chest.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Where was you in La? Where hell was you at? Yeah? La?
It happened twice.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Once was in La, once was on the East Coast,
when I was out in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
What you know? Yeah, what the hell? No.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
I've had women get real like you know, black, I.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Know you ain't gonna go there and then and be
all in this and putting hands in my face and
act like this and that, and I'd be like, you
need to back up, or what you gonna do, you're
gonna do, You're gonna be and I'd be like, Ah,
this ain't gonna where you gotta go. Or they start
to wanna break shit and throw some stuff in the
garbage and making a mess. But they never hit me, thankfully.

(01:15:16):
Oh wait only well now through some keys in my
face and there we had a little slap boxing when
I was This was after I was injured and ship
this damn girl was driving my car, this crazy ass
girl trying to go to court for somebody because they
was a.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Bad tenant I had to evict.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
And she talking crazy, driving my car all crazy, and
my son in the back seat he like seven.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
It's like when I'm first freshly injured and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
So and so she told I'm like, you know what
she's talking about, i'mnna show you and this and that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
And not I and then because see it's some stupid argument.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
And I'm like, in my mind, if I go in
this courthouse and she put off with my damn car,
I leave and I'm stuck. Man, I'm about to really
put the man. So I tell her, ask, you know what, turn.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
This down car around.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
So she starts speeding, doing like fifty sixty miles an
hour down the side.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Streets and speeding. Then when she gets there, she parking.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
I'm like, the damn chad shit, they take the damn
keys out through that shit in my face.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
I'm like, what the hell? Back smacked and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Shut out of ass. Before I know it, we up here, Hey,
you in my world. We sitting side by side. It's
even now. My son at the back seat.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Like what y'all doing. I'm like, man, what the hell
wrong with my ass?

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Oh my god, crazy ass? Get out leave me sitting there.
I'm like, ain't that a bit? I'm sitting this stuck.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
But I am one girl.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
She got really upset with me about something. I don't
remember what it was, but she got mad. I was
in my apartment and it was while I was on
the East Coast, and she she got mad and started
just like hit me in my chest and hit me
in the arm, and then she was like she put
her hand up like she was gonna hit me in
the face. And I told her, I said, you hit
me in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
I'm punching you like a man boy.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
She pulled her hand back and starts she just kept
hit me in my chest, and I said, you gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
I was like, I'm not going anywhere. Fuck her. I
was like, no, you're about to leave my.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
House and she was like so, I basically just wrapped
her up, barrel, hugged her, picked her up, walked her
to the door, opened the door, set her outside, and
shut the door.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Was like, you gotta go, man.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
Like I was like, you have your keys, went I
went inside, grabbed her purse, put it outside.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
I was like, you have your keys, you have your wallet,
you have everything you need to leave, you know, right
for real?

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
And then you know, she got Normally I'm not like
the super quiet guy. Sometimes I get emotional, get riled up,
and I think she got a little scared because I
just got real quiet, like you're not I think I
told her at one point, I was like, you're not
safe here anymore, you know. I was like, you here anymore,
you need to leave. I see you do tell people

(01:18:24):
if they're not safe, you gotta go. Because I know
when I've reached my point. I know I reached my limit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Yeah I know that's right, yeah man I And I've
had people say they ain't gonna leave or do this
too and be Bambi. She just made a good point.
She say, I ain't staying nowhere. I'm not wanted. That's
the how you're a smart person with some sense act.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
But some people be trying to define you ain't gonna
do this.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
You can't tell me that. Somebody tell me I ain't
gonna leave. You can't make me do this. Is you crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
You know? But uh yeah, man, that's the.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Whole thing about You gotta be in therapy or you
have to have to It's just very really, what it
is is you need to pick better men.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
That's what it is. You need to make better choices.
Don't pick some.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
Dude who wants to be like this is one of
the girls always want to talk about they love some
bad boys stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Yeah, you can love the whole bad boy bravado.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
You can love the dude who's gonna act like an
ass or somebody wants to go out to the to
the club or the bar. He wants to pick a
fight and he wants to be all, you know, try
and punk people.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
It's like you can.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
You can like all of that, but eventually that's gonna turn.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Around on you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
You might like you might be dating somebody like that
early and you think all this is fun, this is
exciting all you know, he's I feel safe with him, okay,
But eventually all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Is gonna get turned right right back around on you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Yeah, and then you have to contend with it, and
you need.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Some dude who's been in therapy. You need a guy
who's gonna be you need a normal dude.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
The programs, that's the problem right there. They don't want exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
They get what a normal guy or normal guy and
shows interest, and they're like, he's boring.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Yes, yes, not exciting. You know he doesn't do it
for me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Yeah, he's normal, exactly right right. The goal in life
for most people that should be is to have a
boring life. I meaning you know you're not involved in
crimes or in drama with the police, or drama with men,
or drama with women, or or in fights and or

(01:20:32):
you got drug abuse issues and things. You want a
boring life that's financially say, you don't want lights cut off,
or struggling to donate blood to get this money, or
wondering where the next meal is coming from.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
You want to have stable bills.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
You want to have a stable roof over your head,
stable love and family, stable pay. And yeah you can
travel and do things like that, but you want to
travel safely and come home safe. You don't want to
talk about how you lost the leg or it almost
died from the wrong meal.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
Hi Jack, you want a normal dude with an eight
oh three credit score.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Come home city exception.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Not dud who's coming home at four point thirty in
the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
You know, I love you though, you know where my
heart is baby, my dick somewhere else, But my heart
with you, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
I love my day we all go, but my heart
with you every night. What yeah? See?

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
But but you like there, there are a lot of
women out there and guys too, Like you, guys always
talking about all crazy girls they have the best boots
blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
And maybe they do. Maybe the crazy girls are. They're
fun like that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
For about ten minutes exactly, and then and then that's
that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
But you know, women sometimes they want to be with
these crazy, these crazy ass dudes. They want to be
with the so.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
Called bad boy, and you would hope at some point
they would grow out of that. But some some people
just never do. They always want that silliness that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
So that whole crap about her.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
I need the guys in therapy, know what you really
need to do is make better choices.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Pretty much, she's the one that's never grown up and
it's still I think looking for the wrong person and
like you say, need to make better choices. I remember, uh,
the girl that I really my first real crush. I
really loved this girl. I thought it was meant to be.
We went to preschool together and everything, lived in the
same neighborhood, lost track came back together around teenage years.

(01:22:41):
I'm like this and that I would have did anything
for this damn girl. And she then told me, you know,
you just too nice. I'm like, what do I don't
see you like that? You too nice?

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Like I'm nice because I love you guys, I care
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
I'll do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
And that was like, okay, I guess I gotta joint
a slap a tribe. And that was the end of
the niceness, you know, but you know that that was
the thing. And then you know, years later we we
kind of talked and it was like, you know, she
didn't realize and was sorry, but things changed and time
and different things.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
But yeah, you know, you got three kids and you
know daddies, and boy, no, you you've.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Been You've basically been wrecked.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
You know, and ravashed by time and one way or
another for for both of us, whether you me different
things happened.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Sometimes it could be a fairy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Tale, but it ended it maybe not.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
And but then you know, when we're young, you know,
you think you want this excitement and things. And that's
part of the problem with media in the sense I
wouldn't have believed it, uh when I was younger, but
the influence of wanting to be be somebody or be
in the mix or that what they say, fear of
missing out foamo or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
And so yeah, so that's powerful.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
You know, you want somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
You ain't driving you a scrub, but you ain't got
this or that. And you know that was one of
the motivations of trying to be trying to sell drugs
or sell weed, to do this and that so I
can get this new gear at this and that look
good for this girl, or get this or get that
so I can be somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
You know, I have something, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
So you know, it's funny because I feel like I
feel like I was lucky to look around at a
fairly young age and be like, yeah, these aren't the
chicks for me, because you would look at some of
these chicks and you'll be like, Okay, she's a hot girl,
she's fun. You know, she's exciting, she dresses sexy and
all this other stuff, and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Then you're just like, yeah, I don't want to deal with.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
All the other bs that goes along with it. It's
just like it's just not worth it. There's a lot
of hot girls out there that aren't running around trying
to show everybody they're hot.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Some of them are.

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Some of those chicks aren't really hot once they take
off all the accouterments.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Yeah right, you know. And I don't know, man, I.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
Like the whole I know people like crazy girls and
they and but it's just like I've seen some dudes
out there with these crazy girls. I've seen girls out
there screaming at people. Man, my nigga will fuck you up,
blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
And I was like, who me right, it's twisted.

Speaker 4 (01:25:30):
I will fight in your stead, Like if some nigga
runs up on you, I will fight so you don't
have to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
I will never fight over you there like some other
dude wanes that you want to.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
Talk to some other ship, like some dude wants you.
I used still dudes all the time, they get mad.
I've had dudes get mad be talking about they want
to fight me over some girl, I'm like, for what
you can have her. I'm telling you she's yours. You
want her, she's yours.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
I'm not fighting.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Ever, there's too many women in the world to fight
over someone.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
El I will fight if some dude wants.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
To come and start, cause I've seen some pumpligasn't want
to fight a girl, I'll be like, I will fight
for her.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
And does this girl know this has happened? And she
would go with the winner? But she read like I
wasn't doing that. Yeah, like what the hell? Like, so
if we fight over her, she gonna go with the winner? Like,
I don't understand that, Like I didn't. I never got
into a fight over a girl. Yeah, I never had

(01:26:32):
that issue, but I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
From I mean basically from what.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Yeah, that's crazy exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
Like you can't never control that choose.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
You she could still choose a dude that lost exactly when.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
She can still choose it doesn't really matter. She's gonna
go with the dude she wants to go with exactly,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
So I'm glad I didn't have that one, uh, cause
that's that's great. But if she to go with the winner,
hey might have the next chap coming out of the hood.
You know what I'm saying. If that's how I work,
that's that cave man mentality though, you know, did you
take who you want? You know, that's that last part

(01:27:15):
of our brain, cave man mind, you know, a reptilian mind.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
You know what I'm saying. And it's just silly. It's
just silly, you know. But I just this whole idea
that somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
Needs they need to be in therapy, that's just that's
just it's foolish.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Just I understand on one level somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
Saying I need someone who's self aware and and understands themselves,
they're not afraid to be emotionally vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
I understand all of that. But you don't need therapy
for that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
A lot of people who have never been in therapy,
a lot of people who are just good people are
already self aware, They're already emotionally vulnerable, They're already willing
to be open with you, you know, emotionally.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
They don't need therapy for all that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
She's thinking about it because she's she's probably one of
these chicks that that have always found herself in some
crazy ass relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
And she probably drinks that kool aid of men, toxic
masculinity and stuff like that. So all men need therapy.
And again, somebody, we're not knocking therapy. Somebody saying therapy
help is nothing wrong with it, true, but she's saying
she won't date a man unless you are in or
have been in therapy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
And I think that's not a good recipe.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
And a lot of that has to do with a
lot of this toxic massandry that's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
I think there's a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:28:42):
Of people that want men to go into therapy because
a lot of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
And with therapist.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
Nowadays, they seem to be trying to, you know, to
emasculate men in a lot of ways. It seems like
a lot of the stuff that they're trying to give
men to be the way to be is to not
be as masculine, to to to sort of say, hey,
these effeminine attributes for the way you should be, and
those go against our nature most of us. It just

(01:29:11):
does against our nature.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
It doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
Being masculine doesn't necessarily mean that you were some sort
of you know, knuckle dragon and of all that's gonna
that's gonna run around and be disrespectful and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
It's just a different type of energy. Women have feminine energy,
men have masculine energy. That's just what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
I mean, people try to people are trying constantly to
fight against nature and to think that they're that they're smarter,
and you know, than than what nature is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Nature has made us who we are and what we are,
and that's just it. You can be mad at it,
you can want to change it, but it is what
it is.

Speaker 8 (01:29:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
That's true. Man, I get ready to wrap it up
on that. Man, that's a great, great point. I'm glad
to see you, man, glad that you came through. We
definitely need to keep in contact, keep it coming, and you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Know, do some more of this, you know what I
mean as always.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
Yeah, man, I was watching, I was launching. I saw
you talking about Dinny. I saw the streamyard day. I
was like, you know what, let me hop apart here.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Yeah, man, glad you did.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Man, definitely, and shout out to Lamont. I know you're
going through recovery, you know and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
So yeah, you get life games for him today.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, my brother from another mother and stuff.
So yeah, man, I'm trying to, you know, keep a
little something going uh during this time from some of
the shows we normally talk about, you watch the.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Penguin, or from I do watch the Penguin.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
The Penguin dope watched.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
This episode that just aired. I haven't watched that one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
I ain't gonna spoil it. The Penguin is fired though,
I ain't that one.

Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
I'm gonna probably watch that soon as we get done here.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go check that out come
my brother.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
We have a thread with my brother, a couple of
friends from back home, and they've been talking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
I had to keep on ignoring the threat.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Yeah, it don't get the spoilers, man, What you think
of it though? As far as the Penguin, I I
think of it as not even like a comic book show.
I look at it as like a real show and
it can stand its own against damn near any of
these other gangster shows and stuff we watch, in my opinion,
because the writing and everything is like top notch with it.

(01:31:22):
I don't know what you think on the shoot, like
we got some technical difficulty over here.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
What in the world you there?

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Uh, look like we talking about too many conspiracies? Did
he came and got me. H. Alright, let's see we'll

(01:32:23):
get this going again. M alright, we're back. Talk talk
too much about Diddy. You came for us with the conspiracies, right,

(01:32:50):
they talked to God.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Damn log Well, enough is enough, send my last dollar.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Cut that internet connection.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Nah, nothing is enough.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
Bootleg Cellular, tell me about it. Cut them off right right?

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
You don't try to change it to the Pengo die
buys it?

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
No, man? But uh, what you what you think of
the Penguin?

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
Somebody the Penguin is The Penguin has.

Speaker 6 (01:33:21):
Been pretty great so far. It's been pretty great.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
You know. I really didn't know what to expect. But
you know, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
I have said this for the longest time that with DC,
their villains are the best. The villains are the best
part of DC. There superheroes, for the most part kind
of suck.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
I mean, boy, yeah, man, at least it came at

(01:34:46):
the end.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
Huh yeah, man, I'm really loving to Penguin though.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
It's a good show so far. It's been a lot
of fun.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
I love the way that I love the way they're
shooting it and developing the story.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
I like the young kid, you know, I think that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:58):
I think, uh, you know, I think the penguin sees
a lot of himself and the kid.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
You know, got that stutter down back.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Yeah, he just can't spit it out.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
The makeup is in the set design off the charts.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Yeah, yeah, I like it. It's kind of dark and gritty.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
Yes, Yes, it's funny because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Dark and gritty. And then he's driving like this purple.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Yes, yes, and that's the homage back to you know,
he always wore the purple in black with it in
his uniform in the comics. Yeah, so I was like, okay,
he got the purple and gold. Well, okay, and now
they oh, I ain't gonna say because you ain't see it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Almost said something.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
But but the thing is this new Batman world, they're
making everything realistically.

Speaker 3 (01:35:55):
Like what I like the most about the Batmobile.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
But what I didn't like is it looked like a
real car that a real person put together. In the
last Batman movie, it looked like a Mustang modified. Whereas
that's tight because it's real looking, but it also looked
kind of raggedy. We used to the Batmobile being a
badass car.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
This looked like them made this in the garage.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
But it's realistic because who could have made these batmobiles? Again,
where's your accomplice? Oh, that old man ain't doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
Yeah, when you know when they had the Dark Knight
joins with the with like Christian Bale and and with
those things they look like tanks.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
It look like they were bad.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Come on, yes, yes that would obviously they would know
who that was, the military and the government and things like, yes, exactly,
he could not have that vehicle and then the planes
and all of that and the back wing and the Yeah,
it's just too much. So yeah, this is like realistic

(01:36:58):
and everything with which is great in the way.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
Go ahead, think about all the DC shows that have
been good, like the movies and the shows that have
been good over the last several years, like The Joker good.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
You know, although the second one I heard was horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Yeah, I haven't seen the second one.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
They should have did the Penguin movie instead of the
Joker part too.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Man, that was good. The Suicide Squad I liked it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
I liked it. I liked the first and the second
one I like them both too.

Speaker 4 (01:37:33):
And then you had what's his name? From uh, what's
his name? That was part of the Suicide Squad.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
They did the show with John Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Peacemaker, Yeah, the Peacemaker, and now this with the Penguin.

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
I mean it's like all the villain stuff really good.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
Although Penguin is better than Peacemaker in a way, it
seems more realistic.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Is Definitely. It's definitely light hearted. Yeah, yeah, sort of a.

Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
Like dark It's sort of like dark frat boy humor alone.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
Yeah, yeah, you know, but it's still really good. Yeah, definitely,
definitely good.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Definitely. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Well, man, let me wrap it up before they come
for me for the three peep man.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
You know, Diddy, it's hard to tell Diddy no.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
From what I heard and from what I see, he
gonna take that. Take that if you want it, you
know what I mean. Are you watching Agatha? Uh? Uh Agatha?
What's that that's on Disney Plus? The uh the the
Agatha all alone or something. It was basically like a
it's like, uh, I don't know if you watch WandaVision
back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Yeah, yeah, well the main oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Uh oh okay caprin Han Yeah oh okay, I didn't
know that came out.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Yeah, it sound on Disney Plus that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
Ah, I gotta check that out. Yeah, I'm about to
watch that tonight. Now you gonna be watching Penguin, I'm
gonna be watching Agatha. I didn't even know that was out,
so yeah, I'm gonna definitely check that out.

Speaker 4 (01:39:10):
I kind of wish I would have popped out when
you were talking about uh, when you were talking about
Power Ghost, you know, Ghost whatever, the Power Book too,
because man, I was just like, Yeah, there were so
many times in this series I was like, what have
they done? Like I used to like that show and
that came out, I was like, all right, thought.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
I was got hated. And then was the one that
was like, out of all the shows that had come out,
and that was the one I most liked. I never
got dumb. Yeah, I got dumb.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
I never liked a week.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
And I never bought into him being ghost and yeah,
and then they really went off the rails at the end,
and and Diana gonna kill the lady but then read
the book to the kid, and and then gonna shoot
the girl but not the mama, talking about now she
feel it, but you killed her the next day, Shelley
felt it for a day. You can't get shot up,

(01:40:02):
but get up out of there in the airport, where's
wide open space? How you It ain't like he ducked
between buildings and something. He How you get away and
you shot and you just lay in the bed and
get healed and run away and get out of tire.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Come on, man.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
That was the thing that got when the season first started.

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
I think it was the first episode and they were
at they were like a tarmac at the airport, at
an airport with Terin and Braydon.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
Coming through like they were some sort of two.

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
Man special commando team with assault rifles.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Save you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
I mean, the first of all, if anybody's ever shot
at assault rifle, they're not the most accurate things though.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
They're just plugging people left and right. And then at
the end they can't even shoot somebody point blank, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
Right there, they can't even shoot something like, come on man,
starting off with some foolish.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
And then the Michael Eley thing was horrible because they
talking about putting him in jail is worse than him dying. No,
it's not, because why is he not gonna snitch and
tell on everybody? But he gonna keep his mouth shut
in jail. But he is selling y'all out. He gonna
go and tell everything so he could get out of jail.
Like this ain't gonna work. No, you talking about her at.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
The very end with Barry Jas she basically took her
shot my baby, not but dress of it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:36):
Oh my goodness, my baby.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
I still wasn't nobody ever really explain why? Yeah? Why
she why was why did people care? Why was she
so powerful? Why?

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
I don't understand why she wanted to kill him so bad?
They was working for him and Kane was about to
marry her. Why was you trying to kill Mary Jay
and them on the wedding day?

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
That was unnecessary?

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
And then but no, Ma, chocolate moose, No, Ma, we
are not gonna help you no more.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
You know what I still don't like.

Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
I still never understood Eppie's whole, you know, her whole
sort of by why.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
She was selling drugs. I mean, she was obviously a
brilliant kid.

Speaker 4 (01:42:31):
She was super smart, and so she was on scholarship
to to that, to that that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Little private school. So she didn't really need the money
she was on.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
She was on Uh, ain't none of them need the
money she went to that?

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Brandon family got their name on the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
None of them needed. Toreka had the damn truck's fund man,
none of that. And then they this was a crazy show.

Speaker 4 (01:42:56):
He's gonna wear He's gonna have all the clothing ones,
the fancy cars.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Same thing with with Tariq. I mean, is what's your name?

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
Gonna risk life and limbs so she canna wear some
design her clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
I mean, this didn't like. The whole thing just didn't
make much sense.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
And Diana wanted to get out the game for the
longest and then at the end she want to keep
it going in a Mama legacy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
What you crazy enough case?

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
She didn't want to be pregnant, but when she lost
the baby, first thing she want to do is get
pregnant again.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
And then mad he didn't want to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
Come about you, glad, I don't have it no more.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
You nuts?

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
Got you nutsy?

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
For real? For real, for real? Yeah, I guess they
left it open where it seemed like they left it open.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
Where like Tommy called up to uh, like I need some.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
Help, right like he gonna call Trek for help.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Come on, Reeke, come.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
Over here in Chicago, come through as my as my hitter,
come through with my hitter because I can't kill it
people I know, right and body count through this whole series.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
Episode.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
I don't know toik answer the phone. We'll go ahead,
we go call through called of ether through. We gonna
cut through with.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
The hammer, and we gonna hang on that bend there.
What what they're called?

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
Call it hammer?

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
What? I'm on my way? Man? Shut up? Man? We foolish.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
It made me think they probably didn't plan on canceling,
and they were surprised because the way they left that,
I'm like, what, But you know, you don't know if.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
They're actually gonna come out with it.

Speaker 6 (01:44:39):
You know, I think the show people were really looking forward.

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
To as the one with a young Ghost and a
young Tommy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
They coming out with it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:46):
Okay, that young kid, that young kid that used to
be on that show Shameless. They said he was gonna
be the young Tommy on that show. So I was,
you know, I like that dude as an actor. I
think he's I think he's a pretty good dude.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
But I know I was looking forward to that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
But the way I've seen some of these shows develop,
I'm not so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
They need to keep it in the vein of Raisin Caanan.
That's a really good show. It's starting to get a
little with all the gun battles and stuff, but if
they keep it grounded. And one of the things to
help is it's not a lot of technology, which means
some of the stuff they do you could have got

(01:45:31):
away with a little bit then, you know, whereas some
of the stuff they do today is that doesn't work.
Just like when they had the damn locker boxes on
the roof of the school putting it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Who put that in there? They just gonna have.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
Some installer coming to this school and go on the
roof put like, come on, this is just a lot
they do and things I don't know, man, anyway, stuff
in raising Canan and Tommy's world, maybe you could get
away with a little easier. They couldn't have did no
lock box stuff. But whatever, you know, So we'll see

(01:46:05):
how it go. But uh, I'm interested to see. I
would love to read to come to Chicago and run
into row House.

Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
Let me get out and see.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
Is it an ass? You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:46:14):
I'm a teacher, but thaging too.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
You know what I mean? Welcome to my will.

Speaker 4 (01:46:21):
I was really I was really hoping that that Tommy
was going to LA. I thought it would have been
great for him to go to La and work with
like the cartels or something out there.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Well, that's what the story had and put in place
that would have made sense. There was nothing about him
going to Chicago. It's in the story at all. They
never mentioned Chicago.

Speaker 4 (01:46:42):
In Chicago and you're basically taking over some Irish gangs,
you know, right, well, the way he got in the game,
that would never really work.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
But you're gonna make somebody take you to the to
the deal and then what forced them to put you
in on it and say what I could and robbed you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
But that was just a lot that he did to
get in.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
I mean, I don't know, he could have just beat somebodysbelief,
but it's a lot you have, right, No bad intro,
right there wasn't the best intro, but you know, you
know it's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:47:20):
I told myself I wasn't gonna watch any of these
hood shows, and I did take a break off.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
But some of them I think.

Speaker 4 (01:47:26):
Are real stupid, Like I have not I know, I
thought that the whole Tarik thing, that show just got
to be dumb. I just told myself, I was gonna
finish it because I'm not a quitter, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
But I've actually I actually enjoyed BMF. I didn't think
I was gonna enjoy it, but I actually enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
That's grounded more. Yeah, BMF is very grounded. Some people
say it get boring and stretched out, but that's because
the life they wouldn't live.

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
That's not realistic.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
Killing and napping that every day like that, police will
be on you. You know, you wouldn't have longevity, you know,
And that's the thing. Yeah, it's an exciting story. Even
the Sopranos. The writer David Chase came out with like
a two part little thing and he like, yeah, these
kills are exaggerated because they.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Don't do They would be in jail.

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
It's too many, you would have a trail, it's too
much to come up.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
Some of this stuff is just ridiculous. They have on
like you're you're out there watching Mary j and you
know she's.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
Having wear and a half a million dollars worth of clothes.

Speaker 4 (01:48:32):
Yeah, twenty thousand dollars ago boots and the chaon, you know,
cheffon dressed and she's carrying a freaking desert eagle having
a shoe. Did you see anything, you mean, the beautiful
you know that look like she walked off of her runway.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
And the g wagon. Yeah, I mean no, I didn't
see any of that, kid. Sorry, yeah, nondescript. I mean,
it's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
Hey, for real, Hey did you see that? Uh it's
gonna be a spin off of Snowfall, and uh it's
gonna be uh the continuation with uh what you call it,
and they gonna bring Franklin Saint back but uh really yeah,
it's Wanda and uh what your Leon?

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
And Leon?

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Huh yeah, and they say that, uh Franklin will make
a return.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
So maybe it's in the future or what.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
But yeah, that'd be kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (01:49:31):
I didn't, you know, I mean, cause we saw Leon
was about to do some big.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
Things, you know, Yeah, so it would be interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
Yeah, and what if he helped Franklin this time and
he came back.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
That broke my heart.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
I was like, just stay your ass in Africa, bro,
just stay there, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
I was like, you don't need to come back.

Speaker 4 (01:49:52):
There's nothing there for You have your you have their money,
You're living nice out there. You guys have your space.
She's Wanda stay clean, just stay out there, you know. Yeah,
that would be I'm gonna watch that show. That was
one reason why I like Snowfall is because they didn't
glamorize everything. They didn't glamorize all the drug dealings.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
They showed that it was ugly.

Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
They showed Leon tortured by the fact he killed that
young kid.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Yeah yeah, they didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
They showed like what's his name?

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
Yeah, yeah, that house just I mean, they didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
They didn't glamorize all that real, realistic, and I don't
think you get that with the you know, with the
Power series, they.

Speaker 4 (01:50:45):
Always want to show yeah runway with their fancy everything.

Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
And even like the visual it's a glossy show. Snowfall
was dull, you know what I mean. It didn't seem
glossy and pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
It was dull.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
People didn't all look nice and dressed nice. Snowfall, like
you say, it's a runway show. Every time everybody's well groomed,
maiden look good driving this look. Yeah, it makes the
life look attractive in a way. Yeah, you don't see
any of the downfalls really, and then Tarik survives them all,
you know, so yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
Got a good point. Good point on that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
And the biggest thing on Snowfall that people thought was
fake was the tiger or whatever. But yeahine, yep, that
was a real storyline.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
So yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
And then if you've seen Chimp Crazy, it's people out
there with stuff in the middle of your neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
You don't even know it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
Yeah, ever damn gorilla in your damn in their basement, right, And.

Speaker 4 (01:51:51):
It's funny, like there was there was some scene where
I think it was like some Bontos or somebody that
basically gave them a pass.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
It was like, yeah, but that was that's like a
real thing.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
It's like, yeah, that was in Minister Society.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
They called it a ghetto pass, you get it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:06):
Yeah, it was just yeah, it was like like when
those dudes when those cops beat them up and dropped
them off in.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
Those essays, Dude saw what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:52:14):
They were like, na, you guys, you guys get a
pass because they know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
They're not trying to do those cops.

Speaker 3 (01:52:20):
Dirty work for exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
And then they'll do the essays like that too, and
they know the same thing, you know what I'm saying,
dropping them off in the hood hoping the brothers do them,
so they you know, nah, they don't do the dirty
work like that. You know, they get lucky every now
and there to find some foods. That's why the cops
would do it. But for the most part, the ones
that know better, they don't do that, you know, so

(01:52:43):
yeah you and and when they.

Speaker 4 (01:52:45):
When they do find those fools, oftentimes they end up
getting killed by their own people because they're just like,
oh jez like, now what you just did can cause
all kinds of habit.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
You can put us in the middle of a gang war,
which you screws up all of our money.

Speaker 4 (01:52:58):
So basically they're just like, man, have a little Powell
and be like, look, sorry that happened. We already took
care of these dudes.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
They're done right. Yeah, I don't know as I like Snowfall.

Speaker 4 (01:53:11):
Snowfall came off to me is like it was gritty,
it was entertaining, but it wasn't glorifying all the all
the all the drugs and the violence.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
I mean you got to really see like when what's
his name, like the.

Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
Next door neighbor, the little hot, light skinned girl that
was up there that was.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
Like, ah yeah, and then she got strung out yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know, then.

Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
She moved out to Texas or someplace trying to get away,
and she was like, they can do it, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
But that again, man, is about the beginning, and it's
grounded the beginning in reality with what happened with the
drug game and the Sea I and then the stories
and it shows we saw Franklin and the girl from
when he was a teenager with the girl to where
he became, and then progression made sense. We don't see
how Tarik became a sniper, how did that happen? Where

(01:54:08):
did he get to start doing that, How did he
get good at that? Where did he practice and go
to school and do all of this and don't drive?
And it's just so many things, you know, So you
know it's a lot, but.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
Hey, it's just it doesn't make any kind of sense.
It makes that a look of sense. So that's what
they did.

Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
So they're gonna I mean, they take everything a little
bit too far.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
I think they take everything a little bit too far
with that show.

Speaker 4 (01:54:37):
It basically it kind of is kind of like, for
lack of a better phrase, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Kind of like Dynasty. If you remember Dynasty back in the.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
Day, I remember how it becomes like that, It becomes
like a soap.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Opera that's you know, that's way over the top where
you're like, come on, who shot j R? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
I remember they had all them people bust In and
Dynasty with the shootout or whatever, like, uh, some they
have some they have like special forces or whatever come
to take them all out and shoot them all up,
the whole.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Family or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
You like, really nobody come to take them all out
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:55:18):
Hopefully I forgot what the book The Powerful Kids for Tommy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
Hopefully that one gets a little bit better this book four.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
They this is the last season for this. They canceled
this season this show too. Oh really yeah, so this
is the last season for Force.

Speaker 3 (01:55:36):
They only did three seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
Okay, so I guess maybe people just don't watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
Well, no, they had a lot of budget cuts because
of the strikes, and so I guess they trying to
cut down on the mount of shows they producing. And
you know, who knows, fifty always been complaining about stars.

Speaker 3 (01:55:57):
For years, so who knows what as well?

Speaker 4 (01:56:01):
You know, maybe the movies, you know, I honestly they
should and I don't know if Apple would have them,
because I think Apple Apple I think wants shows that
a little bit of a different family. Yeah, maybe otle
bit more family or even the stuff that that's a
little that's a little gritty. They wanted a different maybe
for a different audience or something.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
But I don't have shows.

Speaker 4 (01:56:25):
Yeah, I thought those shows would do really well on
Apple TV plus because they don't really have anything for
like an audience for that audience, I don't think they
have anything for their and I think they were like
I mean, I feel like those shows brought a lot
of people over the stars that would have.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
Never opened oh yeah, oh yeah big time.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
And Apple TV has deep pockets.

Speaker 6 (01:56:47):
They could have said, okay, yeah, maybe we're not gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
Green light all four of your shows from the universe,
but will give you one or two and let's see
how it does.

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
You know that would bring a lot of viewers to
Apple because a lot of people don't subscribe to Apple TV.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
But it's a good service.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
It just and they would a lot of money, Like
you say, behind them shows. They don't have cheap shows. No,
they got Harrison Ford on a TV show on there
and different stuff, so yeah, they got on that shrinking
it is good with Jason, what your call it. Yeah,
but uh yeah, so yeah they got good stuff man.

(01:57:26):
Uh yeah, so that's what Napoleon is.

Speaker 4 (01:57:30):
And I think, you know, I fifties complained about money
as far as they're not giving the budget that he
needs to do the stuff that they want to do,
then I think that I think Apple TV would have
been a good place for him.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
They would have gotten all the money they needed.

Speaker 4 (01:57:43):
So I don't know if they could have had I
don't know if they could have made it as sexy
as it was, cause I mean this last season, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
Really feel like they had a lot of that.

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
But the first couple of seasons, the first season or
two of this.

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
Of this what was it? Book two, there was a
lot of sex in there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:01):
Yeah, they tried to show him under the covers a
couple of times in this season.

Speaker 2 (01:58:05):
It wasn't really as good.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
The same way with ghosts like this, like with with
uh like with the regular one. Yeah, was almost like
every like every episode there was like two sex scenes
with what's his name and Angela. But you know what,
that had made that show fire though. You could feel
that passion and everything and him cheating on his wife,

(01:58:30):
like I don't know how many women was into it
of that when she's gonna find out and this and
that and yeah and him and Angela. Man, I'm surprised
they ain't get together in real life if they didn't, because.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
She ain't got no right for real. So yeah, but
he was, he was. I mean, he's just stupid with
the boss's wife. Never never, she could do all the
flirt she wants to be. Like, you know what, No,
I value my life. You're not gonna get killed. I am,
so you know, I'm good. I ain't paying attention though.

(01:59:12):
I don't let you go.

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
Yeah, we wrap it up. We'll put it together and
maybe you know, do this again. Uh, we'll see what's uppening.

Speaker 4 (01:59:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
Definitely, I still try to keep something going. It's a
lot of news out there, so you know, try to
stay up. And you know, people forget about you if
you ain't out here.

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
I know my people say they won't, but they do.

Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
That is true.

Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
I still I keep trying to pull my videos out there.
I try and do a few every week and get
them out there. And just I'll tell you what. This
algorithm is hard to minute.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
I'm almost giving up on it, man. I just do
whatever happens. Man, I don't damn it. Gave up on
trying to. I'm trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
It's just, yeah, that's a whole nother hour we'll be
talking right now.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
So I know you to be able to make a
living on this place, do it for the love of it,
because yeah, really a living.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
Yeah, it seemed like it's gone mainstream now and a
lot of these bigger people is taking all the stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
It's like because it used to be.

Speaker 1 (02:00:15):
For people that real people, and now it's like these
bigger people are taken and hijack the platform kind of.
And it's like, like, I say, we'd be another hour
in here talking about that, because it's just it's not
the same as it used to be at all.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
Shoot, no, it's not.

Speaker 4 (02:00:33):
I feel like I feel like a lot of these
folks they got up here and they watched they watched
folks like us that were doing.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
It all through the pandemic talking about this stuff, and
they were like, we could do that. I already have
a name, I could do that. People just show up
and they did yeah, and ruined it for a lot
of people. Yeah, and they're getting tens of millions of
views on their videos Yeah, I can't be mad at them,
you know.

Speaker 3 (02:00:58):
And they got budgets to high people to do all
of this.

Speaker 1 (02:01:01):
That's that's perfect algorithm and editing and doing all of this,
and and they can just yeah, it's just they can
hijack the game. And then you know, yeah, people like
Bill Maher they can start a podcast and studios and
next thing, you know, boom, And I can't hate on it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
But damn, you.

Speaker 3 (02:01:22):
Gotta show an HBO what do you need a podcast for?

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (02:01:29):
Or club shade you on ESPN. You in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
You didn't need that, you know, not hated whiskey and
oh man, just drunk and talking.

Speaker 1 (02:01:41):
Just no way I'm gonna compete with this. Yeah, how
I'm gonna get people to do watch my show?

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
Now? Yeah, I get it. It's not like the shows
are entertained bright Hell, I watched it too.

Speaker 3 (02:01:54):
I ain't gonna lie for damn. It's the game has changed,
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:01:59):
So I've want I I want him to.

Speaker 4 (02:02:03):
I want him not not to say that I have
anything against our people, cause I don't, but I want
him to have more than just black folks on that show.

Speaker 2 (02:02:10):
Cause I mean, I I like the inside baseball stuff.

Speaker 9 (02:02:13):
I like to hear some of what happens behind the scenes,
but I feel like a lot of it is black
folks going on and talking ish about other black folks.

Speaker 3 (02:02:23):
Yeah, starting to be coming.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
On complaining about their treatment in the industry. I really
liked them to bring on some white folks.

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
Ever since Kat Williams, that's what has become. It wasn't
like that at first as much, really mm cause when
he had like said on there and stuff, it wasn't
like that's what kind of triggered Cat, cause he he
would just have people on and ask some questions, and
when he asked said about stealing the joke and cat
and this and that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:50):
Then that's what Kat got on and started roasting and talking.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
And ever since then people been saying, cause of course
they get the views, they get the clicks, and you
know that blew up had and it blew up Shade
Shay and it you know, whoever cat name got a
lot of attention. So, you know, but that's the problem
with our community though. We like drama, and that's what
feed If I go in and big up everybody or

(02:03:13):
I'm sitting here.

Speaker 3 (02:03:14):
Nice, I'm not gonna get no views.

Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
If I come and start talking like, uh, what's over
Jaguar Wright or down in people everybody there, you go,
so let me go and start talking about all the
comics and stuff. Everybody don't want to watch it. Now,
We'll let me go and be talking about the great
Don't nobody want to hear that?

Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
You know, you start talking about comics and still a joke.
I feel like only people who don't watch.

Speaker 4 (02:03:38):
Comedy find that like shocking, and it's scandalous, right, I
mean I recognized early.

Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
On comics stole each other's jokes.

Speaker 4 (02:03:49):
I mean I would watch I mean I remember going
to a comedy store in LA and seeing.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
Something like I just heard that joke someplace else, Like
that's not yours.

Speaker 4 (02:03:59):
So I've seen other people tell, like on Showtime or something,
tell a joke, and I'm like, I've heard somebody else
say this joke on you know, it's just like.

Speaker 2 (02:04:09):
People do it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
Yeah, yeah, so it'll make it right, but no, that's
that's new, that's their livelihood. But at the same time,
you know, you can steal the joke, but you may
not tell it better or different things or who see
it and all. It's a lot to go into it.
But you know, if you get up there and you
complain it, like can you write more? Is that your

(02:04:32):
only joke?

Speaker 3 (02:04:33):
It's so many things and aspects into that, you know, right.

Speaker 6 (02:04:37):
So, and you know if people get up there, and
some folks can feel a certain.

Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
Way when people write for other folks.

Speaker 4 (02:04:43):
And I'm like, people write for jokes all the time
for other people, just like people will write songs. I mean,
nobody expects every actor to sit up there and write
their own.

Speaker 2 (02:04:52):
Movies, right.

Speaker 3 (02:04:53):
They don't even write their lines, yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (02:04:59):
And sometimes they'll people, you know, actors freestyle and and
and improvised.

Speaker 2 (02:05:03):
But most of the time it's like, here's your script.
Stick to the damn script, right, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:05:07):
And if you're a singer, if you're a songwriter, you
know you're gonna write for for musicians.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
You're not always gonna record all your stuff. You may
write some of her own stuff, but she's gonna also
have people who write a lot of songs. It is
what it is.

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
And so it ain't nothing wrong with that, you know,
because at the same time, it's only so much time.
If she sat there doing every song, then she couldn't
probably be performing a dancing to do it is?

Speaker 3 (02:05:35):
You know, so you know that's why it's different roles.

Speaker 2 (02:05:39):
I remember back in the day, people were talking.

Speaker 3 (02:05:41):
About being that free coast right for for.

Speaker 2 (02:05:46):
That's right for doctor Dre, and people were like, oh,
Dre's bak. He doesn't write his own stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:05:51):
I'm like, he's a producer, right, he too busy in
the studio all day. What is he gonna write the
song to?

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Yeah, he's not a rapper, he's a producer. I mean
if he's making his own stuff, yeah, he's have somebody
write his lyrics for him. Right. If somebody said.

Speaker 3 (02:06:05):
It's like saying jay Z should make all his beats,
then right, somebody.

Speaker 4 (02:06:10):
Said, hey, you have a couple of here's your budget, kid,
you can hire jay Z to write your your songs.

Speaker 2 (02:06:15):
I'll be like cool, Right.

Speaker 4 (02:06:17):
That'll be like, y'all, you're a completely faked dude. You
have somebody write all your songs and somebody else makes
all your beats, And I'll be.

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
Like, yeah, all that shit is fire, right, right? Is
it working?

Speaker 3 (02:06:28):
Like Drake? He built the career off of that. Basically,
my name.

Speaker 2 (02:06:33):
Is Larry Dortch. Whatever I pick is just a persona.
I'm not trying to pretend like I'm real. I'll be like, yeah,
I'm that dude for forty five minutes on.

Speaker 3 (02:06:40):
Stage, for real, for real.

Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
After that, I'm the dude at home playing with the
new cell phone.

Speaker 4 (02:06:48):
I know.

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:06:51):
Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (02:06:52):
Some of these people get confused with the all to
ego they persona out in public and thinking they really
is that.

Speaker 3 (02:06:58):
I'm Rick Jane next thing lost their damn mind.

Speaker 2 (02:07:05):
Shit real.

Speaker 4 (02:07:07):
You know, It's funny because when I look at some
of these young dudes, I look at like bow Wow
and some of these what's this other day Chris Brown.

Speaker 2 (02:07:13):
Some of these dudes hanging out with these crips and
bloods and acting like their gangster.

Speaker 4 (02:07:17):
I'm like, dude, you've been famous since you were like eleven,
right you again, right, had the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (02:07:26):
To be a gangster watching too much? Uh book two Ghosts?

Speaker 8 (02:07:31):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:07:32):
I think that you need cred in your life for
this new album.

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
Yeah, and even when you with them, just like Takashi
and them, you still ain't with them.

Speaker 2 (02:07:42):
You using them as.

Speaker 3 (02:07:44):
Like a prop and fake cred. They ain't making you
serve or be on the block or do all.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
You ain't your stomach ain't hurting and all you ain't Yeah,
so you still ain't really doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:54):
You waste I got you know, it's funny. I got
to it. I got to a de fake slash argument. Well,
one of my buddies from back home got to Kasi
Sick nine because he was like, I hate that little dude.
I hate a he's a faker, he's this and that,
And I was like, I love this dude. He's hilarious
to me. I'm like, I don't like his music, but
I love this dude. He's hilarious. I was like, this

(02:08:15):
dude is a master marketer.

Speaker 4 (02:08:18):
This dude has basically said, I'm tired of being just
something broke dude who works in a bodega. So he
went and got a bunch of tattoos and made his
hair look like a rainbow and start acting crazy, and
you know, he surrounded himself with a bunch of gangsters.
He was like, cool, you guys want to drive my cars,
you guys want to hang out with my shows and whatever. Cool,

(02:08:42):
I don't really care, like you said, they're prompts, you know.
And he became He became famous and wealthy and you know,
and living life.

Speaker 2 (02:08:54):
Job marketing himself. He did. He did.

Speaker 3 (02:08:57):
You gotta give him that.

Speaker 2 (02:08:59):
He definitely did that. Because as long as as long
as he doesn't fool himself into believing that he is
what he you know, what he's putting out there, I
had no problem with it, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:09:11):
I mean, that's like Stallone, he's not you know, I
don't think he's fooling himself into believing he's really Rambo.

Speaker 2 (02:09:23):
But his show, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:09:24):
If you watch his show, The Tulsa King, Yeah, I
heard it's good.

Speaker 2 (02:09:30):
Yeah, that show was fire Man. Check that out.

Speaker 4 (02:09:34):
That's one of those shows that if you're gonna do
a weekly thing to talk about, that's one show I
think he would really like.

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
So, okay, let me check that out.

Speaker 2 (02:09:44):
Show it's been, it's already been. I think they did it.

Speaker 4 (02:09:46):
RAN's course, unless they're gonna do another season called Gangs
of London.

Speaker 2 (02:09:51):
I heard that was good. I heard that was good.

Speaker 3 (02:09:55):
Yeah, it's sort of like Peaky Blinders or something like that.

Speaker 4 (02:09:59):
Yeah, it's well, it's set modern day, but it's like
it is like I was telling my brother. My brother
really loved Peaky Blinder, so I was like, you need
to check out Gangs of London.

Speaker 2 (02:10:08):
There, because it's like I was like, it's it's like that,
but it's just it's way more violent than Piky Blinders.
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (02:10:16):
Some of the some of the fight scenes and stabbings
and stuff, they're yeah, they're.

Speaker 4 (02:10:23):
So intense, and some of them are so long, like
you're exhausted. You're watching these dudes fight, and these dudes
you can see they're just tires. They're they're stumbling trying
to trying to just get another energy to finish.

Speaker 2 (02:10:35):
This fight, and you're watching you like, oh my god,
are you done yet? But they're gory. Some of them
are so gory.

Speaker 3 (02:10:41):
It's on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (02:10:42):
It's on Netflix. It's such a great.

Speaker 3 (02:10:45):
Let's check it out. Gangs in London. It's on the list.

Speaker 2 (02:10:49):
And I love it cause there's there's there's there's a black.

Speaker 4 (02:10:52):
Family that's like they're like right in the middle of
all of this, and it's just like it's not a
uh you know, it's not one of these things where
you have like a black group or a black person
sort of like a secondary character to.

Speaker 3 (02:11:06):
Some white Yeah, they don't see it like that over there.

Speaker 1 (02:11:10):
They see him as regular, don't They Just in there
just happen to be black, but they don't be racist
like that out there, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:11:17):
Some of them, they seem like they're much more classes.

Speaker 1 (02:11:19):
Than racist, right right right, they're classes. Yeah, the poor
in the middle and uh whatever. They well, they don't
really have so much as a middle class as much.

Speaker 4 (02:11:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:11:30):
It's it's it is, but it's not as like here.

Speaker 2 (02:11:34):
Yeah, man, so it's it's. It's. It's.

Speaker 4 (02:11:37):
It's definitely an interesting show and it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (02:11:40):
I'm hoping that they have.

Speaker 1 (02:11:42):
You said it's in modern times though. You said it's
in modern times though, yeah, modern times. Okay, so yeah,
it is really i'm'a.

Speaker 2 (02:11:53):
Check that out.

Speaker 1 (02:11:54):
I saw the h I saw the name intense. I'm'a
check it out. I'm check it out. We're gonna wrap
it up on this one for show this time.

Speaker 2 (02:12:04):
But it's all good.

Speaker 3 (02:12:06):
We had to catch up.

Speaker 1 (02:12:07):
Man, it's been a lot, so you know, it's been
a while, yeah, man, So definitely, Man, appreciate everybody stuck
through to the end down there, fifty of y'all, y'all
the true ogs, y'all gone heading. Yeah, give a thumbs
up or whatever for staying to the end. Uh, don't
don't forget to check out my man Larry's channel. And

(02:12:28):
today I feel like, you know and appreciate all y'all
for coming through and supporting and checking me out as always.
Definitely appreciate all the love, Larry, you want to say
something for me.

Speaker 2 (02:12:40):
I've seen some of these names. I've checked out the college.
I haven't seen some of these names for a minute,
like trest Oh, yeah you know and Jay why you know?

Speaker 4 (02:12:50):
Eric?

Speaker 1 (02:12:52):
Yeah, they still come through, man, they definitely definitely a
loyal group.

Speaker 3 (02:12:58):
Man, appreciate them. Man, it's the fam. Eric Iverson say
he's still gonna watch Power.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
I'm not bad at it.

Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
I'm still hate watching.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
You know what show I just I gave up on.
I was like, I'm never watching that show again. Was
that joint the showtime? What was that one with what's
her name? Lena Waite?

Speaker 4 (02:13:25):
Did?

Speaker 3 (02:13:27):
Not the one when she was the writer?

Speaker 2 (02:13:31):
No, no, no, the other one?

Speaker 3 (02:13:34):
The shot the shot. It's gotten better at the end
the last season or two.

Speaker 1 (02:13:45):
Yeah, they cut out a lot of us, the jive
and stuff, and and uh it got a little more,
it got a little more serious. Yeah, it's actually a
little better than, uh more serious than Power Book two.

Speaker 2 (02:14:00):
Okay, was, but they did.

Speaker 4 (02:14:03):
Have because every time they had a black dude on
our light, they would just kill him.

Speaker 2 (02:14:07):
Off and then everybody else had giving or yeah, well
it's just I can't it just I couldn't. I couldn't
do it. But maybe I'll try it again.

Speaker 1 (02:14:18):
This last season they killed off my favorite character. I
ain't gonna say who what in case you got the
dudea all?

Speaker 2 (02:14:27):
They killed off Dudah.

Speaker 3 (02:14:28):
Yeah, they killed Dudah. They finally killed him.

Speaker 2 (02:14:35):
Uh who the young man that that was Day what's
her name? No?

Speaker 3 (02:14:42):
Nah, he didn't do it. Nah, they had they had.
You want me tell you who did it?

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
Was it the gay dude that didn't think he was gay?

Speaker 3 (02:14:50):
No, you ain't. You ain't gonna guess it.

Speaker 2 (02:14:53):
It was nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:14:55):
It was n Knuck did it.

Speaker 1 (02:15:00):
That's why I say it ain't gonna probably remember he
wasn't as important. Probably when you stop he was, Uh
DUDEA was had him running the little whole house or
whatever for a minute.

Speaker 3 (02:15:11):
Okay, he was light skinned with the tattoo on his face.

Speaker 1 (02:15:14):
He kind of got into it with Vic in the
alley or something. He was supposed to be picking up
Kesha at the bus stop and then she got kidnapped. Yeah, okay,
they kind of expanded his character and then he did
it because uh some bull whatever you see. But then
he decided he gonna beat the new Duda or whatever like, uh,

(02:15:38):
that ain't how it worked, but.

Speaker 2 (02:15:40):
Yeah, you know, anyway, it was interesting. Ye had his moments. Again.

Speaker 1 (02:15:48):
That's why when people say it's the show, you can
watch something like the Penguin and they put it together,
like when Os messed up and then he had when
Vic didn't plant the stuff, so then he killed dude
in the basement, then.

Speaker 3 (02:15:59):
Played and the stuff the knife.

Speaker 1 (02:16:02):
They made it make sense at least how he had
to go through and fix his mistakes, whereas in these
shows they don't write it right and they kind of
do stuff and then you'd be like, they wouldn't have
That wouldn't have worked that way, you know. Although when
foul Cone gased the whole family and she just talking
regularly to the police and they ain't got her in

(02:16:23):
for questioning, that wouldn't have worked, especially after she just
got out of the mental asylum for being nang Man
and they gonna let you just walk around.

Speaker 2 (02:16:34):
It was dope. That was cold. Got the little girl
and said come on, I know right, that was cold
right there.

Speaker 3 (02:16:45):
But then there I was like, all right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:16:49):
I was like, she's twisted.

Speaker 1 (02:16:51):
I like where she saved the girl then added for
Johnny Vety. But that was the good thing because they
made it look like he did it cause he was
gone and wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (02:17:01):
But then she got a but you know, anyway, he.

Speaker 4 (02:17:06):
Said dude up and brought him the ring back, and
he would look like he was supporting the ring.

Speaker 8 (02:17:09):
It did.

Speaker 2 (02:17:10):
It made it look like he was flawning it, like
he did some stuff and was just flawing it.

Speaker 3 (02:17:14):
You know, man, that was good.

Speaker 1 (02:17:18):
They did some good writing. They did some good writer. Yeah,
you know it, cause it's a good show.

Speaker 2 (02:17:24):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:17:24):
Don't get me started back into that cause that'll be
a whole nother thing. What you about to say?

Speaker 4 (02:17:28):
Last thing, I really wanted Vic to get that car
and go with his girl, but I knew he wasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:17:33):
I was like, he's not going it too early. Like
if they had, if they had put that story in
like the last episode.

Speaker 1 (02:17:39):
Of the last yeah, last episode, I would have been
questioning whether he was gonna leave, right.

Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
But I was like episode three, episode four or whatever.
I was like, he's not going anywhere. Nah, that's too
quick anywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:17:50):
Yeah, And I like how he came back and did that,
and they didn't make it seem like he could crash
that car and it would be okay. He was messed
up like it would have been in real life. You know,
Tariq would have been like, boom, come on, let's go.
They would have been looking pretty as always.

Speaker 2 (02:18:09):
He was messed up. Air bag blue, Yeah, he was. Yeah,
Concusti's dizzy, con Vic. Let's go. We in it now, big,
we in it now.

Speaker 4 (02:18:25):
That's one of those you know, it's like I watched
this show and I feel like I should have just
waited till it was all over because I was like, yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
I'm like, is killing me?

Speaker 3 (02:18:38):
Yeah, that's that's a good show.

Speaker 2 (02:18:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:18:40):
If y'all ain't started watching The Penguin yet, definitely watch it.
Definitely watch it. Damian Kenny told me, don't tell you,
but it's too late.

Speaker 2 (02:18:49):
It was not. I just now saw the Cowboys looking
forward to show I'm looking forward to? Is that show?

Speaker 4 (02:18:58):
That's that one that's about that that female cop, she
was like a fishing game cop that was up in
the up in the Yeah, she was like in Massachusetts
or somewhere up on the Cape.

Speaker 2 (02:19:15):
About true Detective, True Detective, not True Detective. It was
like it's it's like the who was that chick stag?
High Time high Town?

Speaker 1 (02:19:30):
Yeah, that's over with they canceled that. Yeah, that's over
the series.

Speaker 2 (02:19:40):
Man, I was I was looking forward to that coming back.
I like that show.

Speaker 1 (02:19:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:19:45):
I think they only gave it like three seasons too.

Speaker 2 (02:19:49):
Yeah, but it was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (02:19:50):
I started watching it late, and uh I only got
through almost the first season, but I liked it that
I got distracted and didn't finish. But uh yeah, but
it's a good show, good show. I got on it
late though, so that when it was at the final season,
I tried to catch up so I can do the review,
but I didn't get catch up, just.

Speaker 2 (02:20:13):
Didn't get through it. Yeah, it was It's a good show.
That was one of the ones I was looking forward to.
So yeah, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (02:20:20):
There's always there's all. I feel like there's always something
that's pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:20:23):
Good coming out.

Speaker 1 (02:20:24):
But yeah, I'm a little worried with AI coming this
way in the next couple of years. But what they
gonna have in the store. Yeah, we better rebel against
uh AI content. Don't watch it and support it. Make
them come up with real creative stuff. But we're gonna
be watching the the Jetsons, and you know.

Speaker 4 (02:20:44):
I know these writers ut there's you know, they were
fighting saying they don't want they don't want AI to
write stuff. They wanna make sure they're protected so that
the studios can't just have AI writing stories.

Speaker 2 (02:20:55):
I guarantee you that these writers are using AI.

Speaker 1 (02:20:59):
They better to you if you're if you're a writer
and they're like, okay, this is you're responsible for.

Speaker 4 (02:21:05):
This episode, and you're just one of those writers and
maybe you're like ideas burned out. I'm sure if you
just throw up, like hey, here's the show, give me
a list of one hundred ideas.

Speaker 2 (02:21:16):
They're throwing them out.

Speaker 4 (02:21:17):
There and then they're writing, put some notes in here,
write me an episode, and then they may get it back.

Speaker 2 (02:21:21):
And you know, and.

Speaker 1 (02:21:25):
Using AI, Yeah, they better if they smart enough in
order to keep things moving and stay competitive.

Speaker 2 (02:21:33):
Yeah, man, I mean things move fast. Man.

Speaker 1 (02:21:36):
You better adapt and survive or fall by the wayside
go extinct.

Speaker 2 (02:21:43):
So well, some of you guys out there, if you
have not watched it.

Speaker 4 (02:21:46):
I don't know if so many of you out there
have Apple TV Plus, but if you do, go watch
Shrinking on there. That's what the that's what talking about
before one saying Jason some of the other and uh
and Harrison Ford and what's what's the black lady's name
because she's a comic.

Speaker 2 (02:22:03):
I can't remember off. Yeah, I can't remember her name.
She's funny though, she's on there. And that dude that
and some of the.

Speaker 4 (02:22:12):
Actors I can't remember their names, like the one lady
that used to be on Scrubs, she's on there, and.

Speaker 2 (02:22:19):
And the husband that was on there, she's she's the
next door neighbor.

Speaker 4 (02:22:23):
And the lady that guy that used to be on
Married with Children where he was the he was the husband.

Speaker 3 (02:22:31):
Is Jason Siegel was who I was thinking of.

Speaker 2 (02:22:34):
Jason, Yeah, yeah, yeah, So there's I mean one like
I don't I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (02:22:39):
All these people's names, but when you see the show,
you'll be like, oh, yeah, I remember them. I remember them,
And they're all great actors.

Speaker 2 (02:22:45):
It's all. It's a lot of fun. It's a good show,
so you can pull.

Speaker 3 (02:22:50):
Yeah, Jessica Williams, that's what's.

Speaker 2 (02:22:54):
Her name Jessica Williams. That's her.

Speaker 10 (02:23:00):
And then who is the other chick that's on there? Yeah,
she's funny, she's nice looking to the name.

Speaker 2 (02:23:11):
What was the other woman? Go go back to the
cast list again. Let's see. Let's see you got Krystal Miller.
You remember her name? But she used to be on

(02:23:31):
what was her name? She used to be on.

Speaker 4 (02:23:35):
Uh Married with Children. H Let's see, she's she plays
the next door neighbor. Okay, she plays the next door
neighbor on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:23:50):
Maybe is it Krista Miller? Maybe that's her. Maybe it's Krista.

Speaker 3 (02:23:53):
Miller, Liz Artist, Alice. She's young, real young.

Speaker 2 (02:24:00):
Yeah, she's young. I think it's Krystal Millan.

Speaker 4 (02:24:02):
I think the other other dude i'm thinking of is
uh is uh and he's a guy ted.

Speaker 2 (02:24:08):
What's his name McGinley?

Speaker 1 (02:24:09):
I think it is Oh, yeah, from uh Married with Children?
Oh no, not from Married with your fun the movies.
I mean, uh, he always was in good shape. He
was in platoon. Oh no, this is him familiary with children? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that is him.

Speaker 2 (02:24:29):
Familiar with children.

Speaker 3 (02:24:30):
I'm thinking of uh, John C. John C. McGinley and
something like that. As Uh, well, I was thinking of any.

Speaker 2 (02:24:38):
Yet, Like, yeah, that dude's always kind of funny. He's
always sort of just like a chill type dude.

Speaker 1 (02:24:43):
So yeah, yeah for sure, but yeah that's a good
one man. But yeah, man, definitely, Uh appreciate you man
for coming through. Man, And we're gonna have to make
this happen more often. You're back in the flow again.

Speaker 2 (02:25:00):
I have to get on here and chop it up. Yes, sir, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (02:25:03):
Appreciate everybody again for coming through, sticking it out and everything.
And uh hope y'all enjoyed the conversation and all that.
Man had a few laughs, learned a thing or two maybe.

Speaker 2 (02:25:14):
Who knows, you know, but I appreciate you having me man.

Speaker 1 (02:25:21):
Oh yeah, anytime, man, You're always welcome, man, definitely. Man.
So alright, alright, man, you take care and everybody, y'all
stay safe out there, deuces and uh yep, be safe.