June 19, 2025 • 61 mins
So many of you have been asking what’s really going on — why we’re selling our house, why Graeson Bee is closing, and what’s next for our family. In this episode, we open up about the tough decisions we’ve had to make, the behind-the-scenes struggles, and the unexpected path that’s led us here. It’s raw, real, and hopefully brings clarity to the questions you’ve been wondering about.
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Welcome to "More Than Reality" with Adam and Danielle Busby, the proud parents of 6 beautiful daughters—5 of whom made history as the first set of all-female quintuplets born in the United States. After 10 incredible seasons of our hit TV show OutDaughtered on TLC, we’re taking you behind the scenes of our extraordinary life like never before. Join us as we navigate the joys and challenges of raising a family of 8, share unfiltered stories from our journey, and explore everything from parenting tips to personal growth. It’s life, love, laughter, and a whole lot of chaos—because our reality is so much more than what you’ve seen on screen.Tune in each week for a candid look into our world, where the real adventure begins when the cameras stop rolling.
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🎙️ We also talk about:
- Letting go of Graeson Bee after 7 years
- The emotional weight of moving after 20 years in League City
- How we process change differently as a couple
- Parenting through big transitions
- What’s next for our family and business
Welcome to "More Than Reality" with Adam and Danielle Busby, the proud parents of 6 beautiful daughters—5 of whom made history as the first set of all-female quintuplets born in the United States. After 10 incredible seasons of our hit TV show OutDaughtered on TLC, we’re taking you behind the scenes of our extraordinary life like never before. Join us as we navigate the joys and challenges of raising a family of 8, share unfiltered stories from our journey, and explore everything from parenting tips to personal growth. It’s life, love, laughter, and a whole lot of chaos—because our reality is so much more than what you’ve seen on screen.Tune in each week for a candid look into our world, where the real adventure begins when the cameras stop rolling.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Finally, it just got to a point where like, what
are we doing here, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get
fired up, so I'm going to hold my tongue. This
is what I have dealt with for three years, and
it got to a point where I had to get
lawyers involved. And this is where it has turned into.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is More Than Reality podcast where we dive into
all things faith, family, and marriage and share that there
is so much more than the reality that you see
on the surface. Welcome to More Than Reality with Adam
and Danielle Busby.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Welcome, Welcome guys to More Than Reality Podcast. This is
episode thirty eight. I'm Danielle.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm trying if you remember, uh, you did that last time,
and I remembered you did remember last week, so I
thought you were going to be on it. No, I'm
just in a mood today. I just leaned huh hormone
because of hormone stuff again, trying to get it on
the good path. And I'm annoyed just with any little
(01:09):
thing today. And I didn't sleep well because I was
having a lot of hot flashes, and so I got
up and I couldn't sleep and women problems. Yeah, so
don't get on my nurse today.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Wow, let's do a connect cart because we haven't done
this in a while. Sure, Actually I want to ask
you first, so you pick it because I don't feel
like talking right now. I get to read it for you.
What is something that has given you a lot of
purpose right now?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
A lot of purpose right now? I feel I feel
like my role at work is like growing, and like
just like confidence and just people leaning on me more
has been growing, especially over the last few weeks I
spent honestly, I've been spending a lot more time at
the Good Rangers headquarters and being involved in a bunch
(02:01):
of different stuff, some stuff that I'm not normally well
that involved in, I guess you could say, and it's
just giving me like more sense of purpose. I feel
like just yeah, I think in general it gives it
gives you confidence whenever people are just like leaning on
you more heavily. And what about outside of that form
(02:21):
of work? What do you mean outside of that form
of work?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, I mean, like you're like, are you are you
find more confidence working within that company because you know
you still work for yourself and that is a part
of a job. But do you feel like you're receiving
that with other type of work that you do as well,
or is that kind of more like, I know, the
environment is amazing and like we love everything. Yeah, I
(02:47):
think it's do you feel like right now when you're
doing other projects, do you feel the same or is
that just like a high place of like work.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I mean I really just just thoroughly enjoy just being
a there and being with the people there. I mean honestly,
some of my best friends work there, and so that's like, uh,
it just gives me like because I'm not just like
going to my job that I enjoy, but like I'm
you know, doing life with friends and stuff there, and
(03:19):
it's just it's.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Fulfilling for a lot of you that don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like I'm very involved in in Good Ranchers, Like I'm
a partner within Good Ranchers, but I'm also like very
involved with their marketing team and creative team and partnerships
team and even just like leadership within the company and
able to like give my two cents and give my
advice and from like my marketing background and photography and
videography background, and and even just like the things that
(03:44):
we've learned over the years and the people that we've met,
you know, in ten years of television and stuff like that,
and just like partnerships with other like social media influencers
and you know, I just know a lot of people
in the industry as well, and you know a lot
of that stuff is able to kind of just merge
into this one all encompassing role that I have there.
(04:05):
But you know, and I've been there for the last
three years just helping out as much as I can,
just because we do stay so busy within our home
and in our own you know, family brand and businesses
and stuff like that. But I feel like that role
is like growing and expanding. And it was in a
ton of meetings this week just about just different stuff
(04:26):
and exciting new things and stuff like that. But just
over the last you know, three years of just being
there whenever I can, and then you know that growing
more and more and like actually just wanting to be there.
Like the culture there at Good Ranchers is just so
infectious and it's just like a family and it's like
very family friendly environment and stuff like that, and just
(04:49):
thoroughly enjoy like all the people that are there and stuff,
and so it just it makes it fun to just
go I said, just go to work.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But it's it's cool.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I mean it's like whenever you thoroughly enjoyed, like the
people in the place and stuff like that, it just
doesn't quite feel like work, even though sometimes it is
a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It's been neat, I mean good. It's good to see
you in a place enjoying what you do, because it
took a while for you to get back on that path,
like just being like content with you know, a different
pace of life, a different change of schedule, a different
which and now it's even like changing more.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, because like I mean, like we do talk about
Good Ranchers a lot, and like they do sponsor the
show and they do stuff, and so it's like a
lot of people kind of have that, oh yeah, are
just social media influencers, Like you're just talking about a
brand this pay and blah blah blah. But no, it's
like our relationship with Good Ranchers is so much bigger,
literally like families so much more intimate with our family,
(05:48):
like I mean literally you know, the founder, the husband
and wife, Ben and Corley. I mean they're very dear
close friends of ours and close friends with like our kids.
I mean, we're just there last night dinner and stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, celebrates one year cancer free. Of the big milestone,
we're gonna have to have them on and let her
share her testimony in their story.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I know, eventually we're gonna we're gonnaarlay this podcast hopefully,
like maybe whenever we move out of this house or whatever,
will like kind of build out like a formal podcast space,
or even just find another place in town, because like
that is an aspiration of this podcast where.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I have a running list of all the people already want.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Which eventually, I mean, it's not just gonna be like forever,
It's not just gonna be just Danielle and I. It's
you know, we're gonna be bringing I mean a big
part of the story of More Than Reality and a
big part of the mission and the the holistic view
of our podcast. Like yes, it's more than reality. It's
kind of a play on you know, we we have
(06:53):
this reality TV career that we have and stuff like that,
and we're so much more than you know, the people
that you see on TV that which you know is
pretty much like a caricature and a sense of who
we are. But also there's a whole other aspect of
more than Reality is everybody out there, all of you guys,
(07:15):
we all have a story to tell and and and
we have, you know, our story, whether whether we feel
that it's insignificant or it's not that powerful of a story,
I believe that everybody out there has a story to
tell from your own life experiences and relationships and stuff
(07:39):
that you have a story to tell that will minister
to someone else out there. I mean, we're Christians, you know,
when we we go to a Bible believing, Gospel centered Christian,
non denominational in Christian church, and and we've always believed that,
you know, sharing your story is powerful, you know, and
(08:00):
sharing like the experiences you've had in your life, which
we've shared awful lot of that, you know, because we
were pretty open book whenever it comes to that. But
you know, those experiences can minister to someone else, and
the things that you've gone through and the trials and
the things, the hard things that you've experienced in life
can minister to other people and just encouraging people to
(08:23):
share their story. And so that's like a whole other
aspect of this podcast that will eventually get get into
in like later seasons where we're going to bring people
in that and one day it could be you that's
listening right now, people that have impactful and powerful stories
of how they've overcome things and that may you know,
(08:46):
potentially minister to other people and just to amplify those stories,
you know, your story. Just us being able to have
the platform to be able to amplify other people's stories
out there can greatly benefit other people.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Well. So yeah, and that's like something I you know,
envisioned creating within the women's like ministry type things that
I'm doing this fall is that like trying to figure
out a way to connect with the people who will
like register to come, but who has a significant story
that we should have a conversation with and like have
(09:21):
like podcasts, you know, sharing of that just to you know,
because not everybody has the avenue of being able to
tell a story. But I love the fact that, like,
you know, I'm going to be putting on this event
and then however many people show up, that's everybody. There's
(09:43):
not a story. But how do I utilize how to
capture a story? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I me while they're there, so much of our of
our story and our experience I mean, God is giving
us a very miraculous and powerful story, but he's also
blessed us significantly significant with a platform, and you know,
we want to to be good stewards of our platform
(10:08):
and not just for our own benefit.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And that's that, like just to say that, it's very
true and I believe it, but it's for me. It's
very hard to act upon that in this in that way,
like having a platform, it's so like overwhelming in a
sense to me. To me because I'm not one to
(10:32):
really like want to be in the front. I can be,
and I'm gonna do it good. I'm gonna do it good.
I'm encouraging myself, but it is very hard to put
yourself on that frontline to like keep it going, you know, like, yes,
(10:58):
we have had this story, had TV show for ten
years and ten seasons all this stuff, and but we
also have a very like I try to say, like
our normal just life of kids and go to school
and go to church and sports and all these things.
And sometimes you have to forge, like I forget all
the time, like did I do a good job today
(11:20):
showing Jesus to someone and not even like maybe speaking
words that say anything like scripture or whatnot. But like,
did I do something today that encouraged someone something that's
like kingdom minded? Yeah, and that could be. And then
when you say, like on the platform, I'm like, Okay,
how did I do that today? Because you know, I
(11:42):
think first step is within the home for sure, and
that's hard in itself just just doing that, you know.
And so to have a platform to be mindful of,
like having to be on a parl like that level
of as a working hour is hard. It's hard for
me because it's real. It's just weird. It's weird because
(12:04):
it's outside of like the normal like nine to five.
Like you know, we can do a film in this
podcast at seven o'clock in the morning, at seven pm,
at one pm, like we.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Have Let's be serious, you're not filming this podcast at
seven am.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I mean I could, but I'm not going to because
I get to we get to pick and choose and
we want to film with not doing anything at seven am. Sure.
I love it, Yeah, no, but I do. It's something
I do pray about, like God, keep me keep me
(12:39):
more mindful on how to UH speak and how to
utilize social media and the tools and the gifts and
all that stuff because it's very hard to I mean,
we follow some amazing people who are very very good
at what they do, and I'll just think I wish
I could just do that. Yeah, but that's it's hard
(13:01):
for me. I mean, and let's be honest.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Social media slump of the last month.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
But how much do you fight with me on how
hard it is to get me to just sit down
and do our own podcast? Trust me? And it's not
because I don't sometimes, and it's not because I don't
want you, because this is what I want to do,
Like I want to I want to share, I want
to be real, I want to talk, I want to
like how I'm like, please someone listen to it besides me.
(13:31):
But it's not that I don't want to do it.
And this is what I tell them. It's not that
I don't want to do it. It's that even though
this is a rhythm and we do this on a
specific day, it's still like I don't know, I don't know,
like enemy like want to like just make me fight.
It's just hard, Like I don't have any other way
to say. It's not natural. It's not natural for me.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Always fought against that, like even even having our TV show.
I mean it's just like, oh, it's just because struggled
like putting herself out there, right, yeah, like once you
get going like you're great at it, it's just the initial.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It's the initial. Yeah, and it's and it was every
single day filming. It didn't matter like these are our people,
these there's our camera crew. This is like it's just
not it's not a comfortable. I guess I guess if
I think about it, I guess I just think too
too little of my capabilities of what God's given us
(14:28):
you do. And that's probably what holds me back, is
that I'm not not like every other woman in this
world probably thinks like I'm not good enough. And I
think that really is like sums down like the root
of like why like even just to come in here
and sit today, I'm just like, you know what am
(14:49):
I going to say today that someone is gonna Those
are lies and thoughts that go through my head a lot,
and those are like internally like about myself, and I
know they're not true because I'm amazing, like Riley.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Would say, and we saw that a lot even on
you know reality TV. Is you know, like what are
what are people really getting out of this? And like
is God really in this? And we struggle with that
a lot. And then you know things that and we've
I think we've briefly mentioned this like on on the
podcast before. It's like, you know, we would have you know,
(15:22):
storylines and just like monotonous storylines or whatever on the
show where we're thinking, like, you know what, what's really
the point in this, Like why aren't we doing this?
Is it is it honoring and is it is it
being a good steward of our story and stuff like that.
And then randomly, like after episodes air, you get all
(15:42):
these like stories back from people, like man like things
that you never would have imagined that people are getting
out of a specific story. You're like, wow, like God,
like no matter what, like God's going to use the
story and He's gonna in the Holy Spirit is going
to speak to people in different ways and we would
(16:03):
have never even imagined. And we see it, and we've
heard the stories and we've gotten the messages and stuff,
and we're like.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Huh, yeah, it's not about us, and it's not. It's
not And we've always said.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
That no matter how small we think we are or
insignificant our story is, and how like we're not enough
like God just right there to like send these people
our way with messages of encouragement and stuff about our
story where we're just like.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So weird messages and across the board we get them
off the wall stuff. Even this week, Daniel gotten the
email makes no sense and it was like Timothy Chela
May is not with Kylie Jenner, He's with Ava and
(16:55):
Adam Details bought a cat, and I mean it is
like I'm thinking, who one why is someone sending this
to me? But everyone in it's funny to read those
things and I'm like, this is so off the wall,
like it makes no sense. But yeah, I mean I
(17:16):
would just say, you know, honestly, as much as I love,
I really do love doing the podcast and I love
this outlet that we have, but I'm we're always like
in a time battle crunch with things and stuff, and
so then I get stressed out because now I'm late
to what's next and YadA YadA yadi. But I still
(17:39):
have a hard time every single time to just come
sit on the mic, you know, and it's just I
don't know, it's just a battle I fight every time.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It's just one of those things is like other people
see things in you that you don't see in yourself.
That's one thing that I've always struggled with, Danielle. You, Like,
I see those things that people say, and I see
you know how you know impactful you are to other
people and other people's lives and stuff like that, And
(18:10):
it's like you believe the lies that you tell yourself
or are just are just believe those lies that are
in your head. You don't feel that same way all
the time, and I know, and so it's just it's
been so hard to like encourage you in that because
I don't know, like you once once I get you
(18:33):
going and like everything's great and and it's awesome, but
it's just getting getting you started, yeah with that and
like crossing that hurdle of just like starting it and
doing it and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I mean we've always kind of struggled with that over
the years.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I don't know what we've got on that tangent. But anyways,
you're gona throw me a card so I can now
process and talk. There we go.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Oh Lord, when you were younger, what dreams did you
have for your future?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Family. Oh, very relevant after just passing up going through
Father's Day was literally that the post that I wrote
and like said about you and stuff. It's like not
growing up but something. And I'm not a political person,
but I've been listening to Hillbilly Elegy with Vance's book,
and it's just I relate so much to it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
All the politics aside, Like his story is so powerful.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Oh my gosh, I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Just somebody who came from nothing, you know, the things
that he's overcome and.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
But just like talking about his family, talking about there's
a lot of things like with his mom and like
just drama and like bad choices and you know, kind
of coming out of that.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I don't know, it's just really been You had a
friend of yours that like recommended yes, because knowing Danielle's story,
she recommended, hey, listen to this guy's story because like
there's some parallels there.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah. And now I finished it today as I was
packing the last couple orders for Grayson B. And so
now I can watch the movie because I heard there
was a movie. Yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The other night I was watching I was watching an
LSU baseball game and you're over there packing orders for
Gayson B And you have your headphones in and I
guess you were listening to the book. It's like every
few minutes, like she busts out laughing.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yes, because when he talks about as grandma, I mean,
she's just so she she cusses like a sailor, and
she don't got time for nobody she loves, but she
will fight somebody quick. I just I don't know, it's
just And I like that it was him reading it,
the audible of it, because it just makes it feel real.
So like when my book is done, I'm going to
(20:46):
be the one doing the audiobook on it. So I'm
gonna sit with him mic and have a hard time
doing that, and then I'm going to be amazing not
doing it anyway. So what did I dream for as
a thing? What was the question for you? Your family?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
What did I dream for as a future family when
you were when you were younger, what dreams did you
have for your future family?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I wanted security, I wanted safety, I want it togetherness,
and I wanted to have a big family. I mean
I grew up with, you know, my two sisters, but
also my cousins were always around, like every weekend. We
were always together, and so just growing up with outside
(21:30):
of just being with my sisters, with cousins and stuff too,
that is what my life was like. And so I
just felt like growing up like I always wanted a
lot of kids. And then when you get into part
of our story of getting married and trying to have
kids and going through infertility, that all became really hard.
(21:50):
And then you know you kind of like see the
way God's work through our story and then end up
with six kids. So that heart's desire of like always
wanted a big family, you know, from a young kid,
was something I think God was promising me in the future,
but it took me trials to get there, to find
him and to know him really. But you know, having
(22:13):
a father for my kids, someone that wasn't just like
called a dad or just my husband, It was like
I want the person kind of hurts me a little
bit at times with expectations, especially over you know, younger
years with you is like which kind of walk through
a lot of that, but just like expectations of you
(22:35):
need to be this for that for them because I
didn't have that, and so my expectations are a lot
higher and you grew up with a solid dad, and
you have expectations for yourself of like what a good
dad is, but my expectations are higher because even with that,
it's like I want the best for them, you know,
(22:57):
And just the fact that like you're hands on, like
you goof around with them, you play with them, you
do stupid things with them to do. You know, it's
just you'll braid their hair, like even watching you breathe
their ears like it's funny. But it's like, yes, like
every dad should be doing that, Like that is That's
(23:18):
what I wanted as a family, like wanting to be together,
hang out together and like family, family, and that is
really what kind of brings us into Like the topic
of today is kind of like talking about the real
question like we don't really talk about because we don't
really it's not like something we've stepped into we're in
the process of, and we brought it up kind of
(23:39):
like I think Adam did last time.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Like Daniel refers to it as me dropping bombs on
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, because like I'm like, dude, kind of give him
a powow before like can you let me know when
you're gonna do that? What are you gonna what are
you gonna say this time, dude, to ask them today?
I was like, what are you going to say today?
That's going to like the hold stuff and then I'll
just like drop it on. I said last week, I
(24:06):
was like, I guess I need to put a microphone
in your face, even if it's not on, just to
get you to tell me something that you want to
like say with me.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Like a lot of things like I process internally, but whenever,
I guess it's just from the years of being on
reality TV and like, you know, you put a camera
in somebody's face and they just you don't want to
just sit there and stare at a camera and not
say something, so you just like it like forces you
to voice your thoughts. Yeah, And and I don't normally
(24:37):
do that, Like I normally keep my thoughts in and
process them before, you know, I think something completely through.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
But like, but whenever I have the right way, like
you think it, but.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Whenever I have a camera and a mic in front
of me, like I'll just like say it, because.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, it does make you open up, which is good
because like I said, like, so anytime I have a
question with you, I'm gonna be like, let's go into
the office, let's go sit in the pod gestures.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Put the monitor up to where we're just looking at
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Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, thank you, Cozy Earth. And now back to the episode.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
But anyways, Yeah, so, uh, today's topic of conversation is
really about what Adam dropped the bomb on last week.
And we hinted around and we've been talking about like
change and everything, but he basically was like, we're moving,
and I'm like, yeah, I mean we're talking about that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
We've said things over the last probably month of podcasts
or whatever and just like kind of given hints or
beating around the bush on certain things, but never really
like and I think I don't think we were ever
in a really like a place to because I don't
think anything was really thought one hundred percent through. It's
just like God is leading us in this direction and
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we need to make a move, and where you are
trying to be obedient in that and just move whenever
we feel that he's saying to move. And you know,
and daniel I was usually quicker to just move on
and act on.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Someone said this not long ago, and I was like,
I'm totally using that on Adam. I just turned quicker
than you. And there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I think you voice your discernment quicker like I okay,
I mean even even the stuff that you know, Danielle,
like voices to me and stuff. It's like it's like
things that I feel like God has placed on my heart,
but I battle against it because I feel like I
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need to control and I need to think it through.
And sometimes it may just be fears that I just
like hold myself back from like really engaging with it
because it's something that's scary, and especially like uprooting your
family and moving even though it may be somewhere like
thirty minutes away, but it's just the act of putting
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your house on the market or going are going and
looking for houses and stuff like that, and like like
to me, that's just scary and like I don't like
the process, Like it stresses me out. Maybe that's why
I'm spending so much time at the office. But you know,
for me, like it's something that I feel like I
share with Danielle in the in the pool, in the
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pool the poll of like like God speaking and God
like guiding us in a different direction, like and I
feel that and I know that, and it's like thoughts
that I'm wrestling in my head, in my own head,
but not really voicing it, not really wanting to act
on it because it's like I need to think this
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through instead of like Danielle will like get something and
she's like, Okay, I feel like God has spoken, I
think we need to do this, and I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa,
pump your brakes and like that's just like the difference
between you and I, right, hmm, yeah, And so you know, yeah,
She'll she'll say things and she'll like get the ball
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rolling on certain things. For me, is like really scary
and like hold on, like let's think this through. And
you know, but it's sorry about like all the other variables.
But it's people weird affected and like what this is
going to affect and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
But and it's not that I don't think those things.
It's not that I don't think think about all those
things either. I just look at I I know my
strengths are I can multitask and do multiple things at
one time and process and think of multiple things at
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one time. You can't handle that, like just be honest,
like that is overwhelming to you. But I am better,
Like up here, I'm better at this. And you want
to like sit and ponder with your thoughts in your head,
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and that drives me nuts because I'm like, nothing's happening,
nothing's getting accomplished. All you're doing is talking yourself in
a circle and a circle in a circle, And I'm like, whoa, Like,
let's unroll the circle and like make progress forward. And
when we when when we try to have conversations, that's
what happens. It's like Adam just I'll say something and
(31:26):
he's like rolling thoughts in his head and I'm like,
what are we thinking? What are we? You gotta tell me,
like multiple times a week, I'm like, dude, how am
I supposed to know that you don't say it out loud.
I can't hear what's in your head, you know, But
it's just trying to well. I will say. I will
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say there are things that I would say over this
past year where I definitely have been more in tune
and more focused on like my spiritual growth and because
God has dropped these big things and has been telling
me like this and this, and I'm like, what, Okay,
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that's a lot, and that's weird. I don't know why
that would even come up or whatnot, but all of
it's coming through and all of it's happening, and so
it's like, wow, So I need to like be actionable
all these things or it's going to come down to,
like we can't both we can't both be sitting down
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with thoughts in our heads. Somebody has to take the
step forward. And that's a little bit more my nature
to do that, because I've grew up doing that for
myself and for sometimes my sisters, and you know, that
was just my my instinct is to just go. And
and that's how it is. When I when I feel
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a certain certain peace like I did the other day,
I'm like, I'm one hundred percent piece on this is
what God wants for? Yes, And it's hard because within
a marriage, and it's like if God has received if
I've received the peace from God, has Adam received the
peace in this topic? And if not? Why? But if so,
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are you going to tell me?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And I'm just constantly battling my own nature of just
like internally processing. And I feel like any anything that
I any decision that I'm pondering, I think about it
holistically before voicing it.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And then you stop and then you stop be honest.
Sometimes yeah, I mean you usually stop until and then
you distract yourself and then it comes back because you
didn't make any progress with those thoughts, so it comes
back to you put a button on it. I'll come
back to that like you like to treat it like
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you're editing pause, come back. That's tomorrow anyway. But you know,
it's when you're making when you're making life decisions for
your family, it's hard. It's hard. And you know a
lot of things that we've been, you know, going through
this past year with work changes, family changes, moving changes
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like these are like which means school for kids? What
is like? What does that look like? Like? These are
big things, And it's like it's a lot If we're
not going forward in any way, we're going to be
stagnant and nothing is going to improve or nothing's going
to grow or get better or like whatever it is.
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We can't just stay like the phrase of it's okay
to not be okay, but don't stay that way. It's
the same thing with our thoughts, Like we can't keep
telling ourselves the same thing and not changing something, you know,
because you're never going to improve and you're never going
to and you're never gonna make a difference, you know.
(35:03):
So it applies to our own self, but it also
applies to you know, reaching out to other people and
telling people that. So Adam tells me yeh, and he
tells me, I tell him, he tells me. So it's
like we gotta we have to be mindful, like and
everybody who's listening, who's in a marriage, like, you've got
to be mindful that. Like, even if your marriage is
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on two separate levels of communication, you got to find
a common ground and you've got to be able to
accept that this one processes and does it differently. So
how do we do it together? How do we come
together and it's hard, and it's hard because guess what,
(35:45):
because when you're married twenty years, you probably have a
few kids and you're working, and then you got dinners
and sports and like you don't you don't get a
lot of that, Like you and your husband. Let's talk
about what the real hard things are right now, the
decisions we have to make time, right, you know, you
don't get a lot of that, but you got to
you gotta do it, and you got to make the
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time for it. And it's not always easy, but you
have to do it because that's what's going to make
your family strong. And like to have your marriage be strong,
it's going to make your family strong.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, And so like over the especially like the last
few weeks, as we've kind of been talking about Okay,
yeah we're thinking about moving, We're thinking about a lot
of things and things are happening in our life. We
talk about like how you know, we feel like everything
that's going on in our life, you know, in this
basket that we're holding up. So like God's just kind
(36:43):
of like turned that basket upside down and like no,
like you're going to go through a big change and
and I feel like He has allowed things to happen
in our life that has like forced us into that change.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
A big one is just like the Grayson B stuff
and like allowing that to like slip away and like
allowing just like a lot of a lot of the
things to like just progress very rapidly, like out of
the blue, because how long would we have just tried
to hold onto that, yeah, if he hadn't just like
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rapidly like shaken that up. And you know, just the
way that the stuff with the store. You know, we've
had we've had struggles with Grayson B over the last
three plus years just on the building issues that have
caused so many problems with just the store and like
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operating the business because of issues that we've had with
the building that have caused so many problems across the board,
with like having to cancel like we would have Danielle
would hold these big monthly get togethers with stuff there
were big revenue drivers and all this stuff, like we
would have to like out of the blue, like cancel
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stuff because like a horrible sewage smell like coming up
from the foundation of the building and stuff that's embarrassing,
Like you don't want to have like a nice clothing
boutique and people walk through your door and they're like,
what the heck is that smell? All these things that
you're just having to cancel, which hurts revenue, hurts your
overhead and all this stuff because things that you're anticipating
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and things that you're planning for and stuff, and all
of a sudden like, okay, now we had to cancel
it because the issues that we're having with the building
and you know, so like all these years we've had
like all these problems, like every time it would rain,
seem like we would have like leaks all over the building,
and you know, these problems and concerns that you would
bring to you know, the management company that is uh
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in a sense protecting the landlord all these years, and
just the lack of response that you would get and
like the slow to action and you know, like small
band aids, it just like would just further the problem
later on down the road. It's just constantly just kicking
the can and just constant struggles, you know, over the
course of three years that finally it just got to
(39:09):
a point where like what are we doing here, you know,
and like we can't take this anymore. Take it gets
to a point where like you start consulting with, you know,
an attorney, and you know, God placed an attorney in
our in our laps that we've been so happy with
that was given us great advice. And it came down to,
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just like a couple of months ago, he's like, look,
just from looking at the correspondence, looking at all the
video and photo evidence from all these years and stuff
that you have that from flat out complete negligence on
the part of the landlord. He's like, look, you got
to just move out. You got to terminate your lease
and move out based off of your contract, Like they're
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not living up to their end of the deal, and
you just got to you just got to pull out.
At some point, you just got to pull out. Obviously
that's going to upset landlord whenever you just up and
pull out.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Well, it makes it very confusing for a lot of
the town.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Obviously, we've we live in Leake City, Texas, and you know,
it's somewhat of a small but very fast growing community,
and we're very well known in the area and people
know that the store is ours or whatever, and you know,
so you know, we decide, okay, like we got to
close the doors and move out, and then you know,
the landlord obviously they're angry, and then they post a
(40:28):
letter on the door saying, you know that we've defaulted
on payments and blah blah blah. Yeah, because we moved
out and we terminated the least like last month, months ago,
and but it looks bad because they put this nasty
letter on the door saying that we stopped, you know,
we weren't paying rent and stuff, which is in a
(40:48):
sense like not true. Yeah, we're not we're not paying
rent because we moved out of there and we're not
using the space well and you know we early. You're
not seeing those words, right, Okay, we're not paying rent.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Because we terminated our terminated and made it very clear
multiple times.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Our contract the way that the contract was written, and
you weren't living up to your end, and so we
are in right.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
So of course we're not paying we don't have we've
terminated months ago, and so there's now talk of the town.
I feel like this is where.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
It's like, oh, the busbies weren't paying rent and they go, oh,
they got adapted.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I'm like, oh, lord, all the drama that people stir up,
but not one person that I keep hearing anything come from.
Not one person will ask me. Yeah, they they just talk,
just talk like I'm gonna get I'm gonna get fired up.
So I'm going to hold my tongue. But all to
say is that it is a headache and it is
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an ordeal, and it has been for years. But there's
very much a peace about abiding to our like our
counsel and our lawyer and doing what we felt like
was the best option in what was contractual in our favor,
you know. And so we did what we were said
(42:11):
to do. And I don't turn away from that. And
you know, the town can believe what the town wants.
But you know, I'll tell my sisters and stuff. So
I'm like, listen, the people, the people who were, you know,
in my bubble, in my circle. People who do ask me,
I will tell them. I'm not I'm not bashing a
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personal name. I'm not saying anything like that. I'm just saying,
this is what I have dealt with for three years,
and it got to a point where I had to
get lawyers involved. And this is where it has turned into.
And no, I didn't get evicted. I terminated and I
said I'm leaving. I'm giving you thirty days. I'm out.
And guess what, I did it and we did and
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you know, so we were still in a of yeh,
killing with it.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
You know, our our attorney has sent a letter saying,
you know, they terminated their lease blah blah blah, and
you know you got thirty days to respond to the letter,
return like the deposit and all this kind of stuff.
Landlord just flat out, I mean it's way past thirty
days now. Landlord flat out hasn't had zero response, hasn't
(43:25):
even responded to you do you know that.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
They but so but knowing that they had to have
received it because then they went and yeah, they put
it stuff whatever. I don't want to get fired up
because but that's that's that's our side of the story.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
That's the truth, and that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
No, it's not over.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
It's you know, and a lot of people have asked like, well,
why don't you just move somewhere? Well, yeah, because but
you know, we've only been in that space. You know,
we spent the time and money and energy into building
out not to leave after what was Grayson B. With
no intention of like moving out of there for years
(44:09):
and then all of a sudden, like all this stuff
was happening that caused major pains and just running a
business and stuff, and so you know, having to abruptly
terminate that, like you don't just you know, obviously it
takes years to like pay off building like build out
loans and all this stuff that like we haven't fully
(44:31):
had a chance to be able to like pay back
yet like that we still have these like you know,
expenses and stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
It doesn't you can't just you can't just because.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah, you can't just go move We're going to go
move into a new space and like build out a
new store because we're still paying off the last one
in a sense, and so you know, that's that's where
the struggle was, was like we can't just like move
into another space and like start over again because like, yeah,
and in nature that this happened, it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
And then we had conversations of like, okay, let's just
take it back to online and keep it online. And
then you know, just trying to be like open to
this baby project that I've had for seven years and
it's not something I envision not doing, and you know,
but I have also been when we left that space,
(45:24):
just really been seeing Okay, God, like what is this?
Like why are we here? Yeah? Like why are we here?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
And really like seeing like the reason behind, like why
this is happening, and like kind of coming to the
conclusion of like God is a sense allowing this to
happen to like force us like into this new chapter
in our life.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
And and I'm not gonna say, well, I wouldn't say
because of that, I think that that is something that
is a part of a lot of our life changing
that has kind of like helped like push us to
making changes, which is good because it falls in line
(46:09):
with like what we feel, God's shaking the basket, yeah,
weeding things out and stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
But and so you know the portion of like well
then why are y'all moving is you know, you know
a little bit of that is we we feel a
call that God is like removing us from right here, Yeah,
and we feel space and He's calling us to this
other area because it's a more you know, it's a
(46:39):
smaller community, more tight in a community. It's a place
that we feel like God wants us to raise our children,
to live a more intentional life with our children and
in a better, more suited environment for that.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yeah, and I think and I think it's okay, even
though it's hard for the kids to kind of like
ex accept that. But being vulnerable with the kids, we
as parents are we this is what's hard. So as
a parent, you know, God has gifted us with these
children to to steward, to protect, to guide, to lead,
(47:17):
to show them Jesus to all these things. And you know,
when you're when you tell them, okay, like we're going
to sell the house and we're going to move, it's like,
hold up, that's not what we want. That's not what
the kids want. But you have to make hard decisions
because like we we have to do what we feel
is best with the family. And we've been given that
(47:38):
authority from God to say, these are your children, y'all
are responsible for them. And yes, we feel like we're
abiding to you know, what God has been putting on
our hearts. But to walk the season of like making
sure your kids understand that even when they don't want
to is is hard. Like it's hard, But I would
(48:03):
encourage you other parents listening, to hold your ground with
what you feel is best for your family. It's gonna
come down to like you and your spouse being the
leaders of your home to make the decisions of what's
best for your family. My teenager who's who's got emotions
in different opinions every single day, and our ten year
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old quintuplets have cannot make that strong of a decision
to say what they feel is best for them because
they don't know. They think they know everything at these ages,
but they don't know. That is why they That is
why we are their parents to guide and teach and
lead them into what we feel is best. Are we
gonna fail, Are we gonna make mistakes of parents? Absolutely?
(48:47):
But as long as we are staying where we feel
connected to God and saying this is the path he
wants to follow us and we receive peace through those
prayers and stuff like, that's game changer for me. Like
when I had a you know, like week or so
at church, Like I came home and I like told Blake.
I was like, Blake, I was like, I know this
is hard. I know you don't want to move. I
(49:09):
know we want to go to different schools, but like
I want to encourage you that it's going to be
fine and you were going to be okay. Because God
has given me peace and it's been decision making and
hard and I feel it's this is what we need
to do. But when I received peace about moving schools,
I'm like, let it be, like it's going to be,
(49:32):
It's gonna happen. And so coming back to her in
her like you know, anxiousness and her worry and friends
and all that, I'm like, but baby, let me tell you,
like I know someone bigger. He told me that you're
going to be just fine. And I have a peace
about that, and I want and I'm telling you that
to encourage you to feel better about the situation because
(49:56):
your your emotions and your hormones and all these things
are to be all over the place. But listen to
me and what I've received from God, and he tells
me that you were going to be just fine. And
there's a piece that that has brought me. And I
tell you so that it can hopefully encourage you to
fil okay with this decision that we're making as a
(50:17):
family for the family, you know, and so be sure
to share those type of things with your kids, and
you know, like tell it's hard, this is hard. I
don't necessarily want to we too have lived here for
twenty years. This is our adult life. This is what
we've grown up around. And we too, yes we do
know people in the other town and other city, but
(50:39):
like it's different.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah, I mean this has been this has been our
home longer than like our original home, you know, like
back in Louisiana. Like we we've lived more life here
right here in League City, Texas than we have you know,
at any other part of our life. Like you know,
we've put roots here and stuff like that, and so yeah,
I'm and it's not it's not a decision that we
(51:02):
take lightly, but I feel like God has orchestrated some
things in our life and blessed us with you know,
even just this house where you know He's given us.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Think when you think back to the day when we had.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Opportunities and yeah, and everything just kind of fell in
line where we were able to get this awesome house.
And then now you know just the nature of like
housing market and just how horrible, how horrible then that
the house.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
You want us to move now, like that's not a
good time.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
But also like of any place in of any place
in Lake City, Texas, I mean, this is a very
like sought after area to live in, which allowed like
home prices and stuff to like skyrockets since we've we've
moved in here, and you know, we've gained a lot
of equity, which allows us to have the opportunity like, look,
(51:57):
we could sell this house, we could move you know,
and area that we want to move into, and it
gives us the ability to be able to just make
a change, get out from under just like whatever kind
of remaining debt that we do have, and also still
you know, come out, you know, and and have the
money to purchase a new house in this new area
(52:18):
and stuff. And so that's that's the decision that we're making,
like you know, holistically, like it's it's better stewards of
our money, it's better stewards of the life that God
has blessed us with uh to make these decisions. And
you know, we don't want to be burdened by you know, okay,
like we we have all these this debt now from
(52:39):
you know, having to abruptly closed down grace and b well,
everything that God is pressing on our heart to do.
You know, the one thing that is allowing allowing us
to make make that move is this house. We don't
want to selfishly just staying here, Like he's blessed us
with this, and now he's given us the uppertunity like okay,
(53:01):
like you can move to this new area so this house,
get out from under everything, and and still be where
I want you to be.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
And so we're going to be obedient. And I believe
it's more than that. I believe it is so much
more than that. But you know, the I feel like
we have just been through these last six months just
so much.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
I feel I feel like I tell a lot of
stories very logically and just kind of just telling the
logical parts of it, and you're very much better at
telling like the heart heart mind. That's why she's like, no,
that's wrong the heart. It's right, the heart, but it's yeah,
you do more with like the heart part of it.
And then I'm just more like I'm thinking the logical
(53:41):
steps all the way through it.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
That makes sense also, Yeah, And I would say we
have been through a lot of hard, big decisions. We
have faced a lot of big heart decisions throughout our life,
very differently type of decisions and having trying to have
a family, getting and it was quintuplets, You're not gonna
make it, They're probably not gonna make it. And going
(54:04):
through the nick you for three months with five babies
and millions of dollars, I mean, it's it is, It
is unforeseen. There's no explanation to me besides but God,
because without Him guiding our lives, I don't think we
would be anywhere where we are today, even as broken,
(54:26):
and as trying to frond the right word I wanted
to say worthless, but not worthless, but even as broken
as we are, like he has come before us and
paved the way, and like has blessed us more than
we ever could imagined. And and so to stay obedient
to that path even when by nature and by our
(54:48):
own like doing, we we say, oh that's hard, or
I don't like that decision. Let me just stay here,
let me keep processing it in my head and not
make a step forward, Like you can't can't do it,
Like you've got to look outside of what your abilities
are and trust in what God has in store for you.
Because if you can stay obedient, which that's been my
(55:10):
word for the years, like obedience. And it hit me
hard because we've had to be obedient to quite a
lot of drastic hard, hard decisions this year and it's
only halfway through the year, So I don't know. I
just like we share this one because a lot of
people are nosy. And two, we do want to be
(55:32):
open and we do want to share our story and
what's happening, but it takes time to be able to lead,
to be able to talk about it correctly. Like you
can't talk about the hurt and mill of the hurt
because you don't know what theout, you don't know what's happening.
You have time to process that hurt and that change
and then talk about it so that you can help
(55:53):
someone in a scenario of the same way. Otherwise you're
not going to be helping anyone because you're still hurt
or you're still in the pit and you're just going
to drag each other down. So, you know, we've been
talking about change for a while and knowing what these
things that we are praying for and doing, but you know,
we do not have a house yet that we are
(56:15):
moving to. We are just confident and know that God
has called us to move and that we are looking
and have our eyes set on one or two and
that we're kind of like going back and forth with
and so in a perfect world, I'm asking God please
let it be before school so that I can get
everyone switched over, not switched between schools. But you know
(56:37):
it's gonna be up to him, ye see when we
get there.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
So, yeah, we don't have any any specific location right now,
and that we're like, yep, this is right where we're moving.
We have the house, yet we don't. We don't really
have yet. We know that's coming, and we're yeah, and
I do, that'll all come through.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
I do. I think I got hit the other day
too with like a little bit of like like God reality,
Like listen, woman, stop getting on the high horse of
having fun shopping for houses and looking for houses when
you need to wrap this other stuff up, you know.
And so there's been a lot of like loosens and
(57:17):
things I've had to tie up with like Grayson B
and whatnot, and still have more to do. But there's
been some dates that I have like pushed and pushed
and like trying to hold onto because it's hard to
let go and say goodbye in a sense. But I
really do feel that he's been like you got to
close this chapter before I open the next one. And
(57:40):
I'm not going to give you more until you've completed
what I've called you to do. And so you know,
I know the time's coming in. And I do feel
like we're in a good place with like, you know,
praying about this one house that we really want to
work out and it's not it's it's amazing and I
(58:02):
and we love it, but it's not it's not our
bougie normal. Yeah, I mean we're making okay. And I'm
saying I'm kind of ready for I'm kind of ready
for that. I'm kind of ready for.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
It's a bit of a fixer upper, is the one
that we're looking at right now. But oh I love
it so much. But it's got a lot of character
and so that we kind of see like a we
see the upside of it, like what it could be.
Speaker 3 (58:27):
It's not nearly but that right now. But one So
we have like two houses, so like one of them
has the pool and place where like podcasts and like
a whole other like all the things, like a tune
one type thing. But this other one we really love
and really feel like that's where God wants us. It
doesn't have a pool, it doesn't it needs some work.
(58:48):
I don't know, like I just I felt when we
both walked through that home, like this is it? And
I told you, I was like, this is the home,
like I feel it, this is the home the kids
may wait wait, which is so fun to say I
feel that because I don't have feelings, but my intuneess
with God is like just it's been like a lot
(59:09):
of prayer and a lot of like meditating on like
this seasons of like all this change. And so I'm
very thankful for that and being able to do and
have conversations like this with people who can pray for
us and constantly like ask us, like how are you doing,
what's the process? Where are you at with work, where
(59:31):
you're at with your family, where you're at with your kids,
where you're at with your your house stuff, where you're
at with the moving, Like how beautiful it is to
have a community of people that you can do that with.
And so if you out there need something like that,
I'm going to tell you to one start praying for
those friends. Second, start encouraging yourself to step outside of
(59:52):
a bubble, put yourself in an uncomfortable situation. Maybe that
means going to a church, Maybe that means going into
a small group of like Christian people that you might
feel uncomfortable and be vulnerable with. We are meant to
do life in community, and it's and it's a life
that is worth living. It's worth living because yes, I
(01:00:14):
have a husband, Yes we have our family, we have
our our our extended family and all that. And it's
beautiful to have a family and have that type of
like community sport. But to do life outside of that
with another family, our Christian family and our church family
that you can walk life with, it's very much of
(01:00:38):
a blessing, may much a blessing. So that so true. Anyways,
any other bombs you want to drop today or I'm good,
okod all right, well then let's drop the end bomb
all right, just this episode though.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Thank you guys for listening to episode thirty eight. Thanks
guys a podcast. We'll see you in the next one.
Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
I hope you like the tea. Alright, hopefully that's set
things straight, alright. We love you guys.
Finally, it just got to a point where like, what
are we doing here, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get
fired up, so I'm going to hold my tongue. This
is what I have dealt with for three years, and
it got to a point where I had to get
lawyers involved. And this is where it has turned into.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is More Than Reality podcast where we dive into
all things faith, family, and marriage and share that there
is so much more than the reality that you see
on the surface. Welcome to More Than Reality with Adam
and Danielle Busby.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Welcome, Welcome guys to More Than Reality Podcast. This is
episode thirty eight. I'm Danielle.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm trying if you remember, uh, you did that last time,
and I remembered you did remember last week, so I
thought you were going to be on it. No, I'm
just in a mood today. I just leaned huh hormone
because of hormone stuff again, trying to get it on
the good path. And I'm annoyed just with any little
(01:09):
thing today. And I didn't sleep well because I was
having a lot of hot flashes, and so I got
up and I couldn't sleep and women problems. Yeah, so
don't get on my nurse today.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Wow, let's do a connect cart because we haven't done
this in a while. Sure, Actually I want to ask
you first, so you pick it because I don't feel
like talking right now. I get to read it for you.
What is something that has given you a lot of
purpose right now?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
A lot of purpose right now? I feel I feel
like my role at work is like growing, and like
just like confidence and just people leaning on me more
has been growing, especially over the last few weeks I
spent honestly, I've been spending a lot more time at
the Good Rangers headquarters and being involved in a bunch
(02:01):
of different stuff, some stuff that I'm not normally well
that involved in, I guess you could say, and it's
just giving me like more sense of purpose. I feel
like just yeah, I think in general it gives it
gives you confidence whenever people are just like leaning on
you more heavily. And what about outside of that form
(02:21):
of work? What do you mean outside of that form
of work?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, I mean, like you're like, are you are you
find more confidence working within that company because you know
you still work for yourself and that is a part
of a job. But do you feel like you're receiving
that with other type of work that you do as well,
or is that kind of more like, I know, the
environment is amazing and like we love everything. Yeah, I
(02:47):
think it's do you feel like right now when you're
doing other projects, do you feel the same or is
that just like a high place of like work.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I mean I really just just thoroughly enjoy just being
a there and being with the people there. I mean honestly,
some of my best friends work there, and so that's like, uh,
it just gives me like because I'm not just like
going to my job that I enjoy, but like I'm
you know, doing life with friends and stuff there, and
(03:19):
it's just it's.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Fulfilling for a lot of you that don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like I'm very involved in in Good Ranchers, Like I'm
a partner within Good Ranchers, but I'm also like very
involved with their marketing team and creative team and partnerships
team and even just like leadership within the company and
able to like give my two cents and give my
advice and from like my marketing background and photography and
videography background, and and even just like the things that
(03:44):
we've learned over the years and the people that we've met,
you know, in ten years of television and stuff like that,
and just like partnerships with other like social media influencers
and you know, I just know a lot of people
in the industry as well, and you know a lot
of that stuff is able to kind of just merge
into this one all encompassing role that I have there.
(04:05):
But you know, and I've been there for the last
three years just helping out as much as I can,
just because we do stay so busy within our home
and in our own you know, family brand and businesses
and stuff like that. But I feel like that role
is like growing and expanding. And it was in a
ton of meetings this week just about just different stuff
(04:26):
and exciting new things and stuff like that. But just
over the last you know, three years of just being
there whenever I can, and then you know that growing
more and more and like actually just wanting to be there.
Like the culture there at Good Ranchers is just so
infectious and it's just like a family and it's like
very family friendly environment and stuff like that, and just
(04:49):
thoroughly enjoy like all the people that are there and stuff,
and so it just it makes it fun to just
go I said, just go to work.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But it's it's cool.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I mean it's like whenever you thoroughly enjoyed, like the
people in the place and stuff like that, it just
doesn't quite feel like work, even though sometimes it is
a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It's been neat, I mean good. It's good to see
you in a place enjoying what you do, because it
took a while for you to get back on that path,
like just being like content with you know, a different
pace of life, a different change of schedule, a different
which and now it's even like changing more.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, because like I mean, like we do talk about
Good Ranchers a lot, and like they do sponsor the
show and they do stuff, and so it's like a
lot of people kind of have that, oh yeah, are
just social media influencers, Like you're just talking about a
brand this pay and blah blah blah. But no, it's
like our relationship with Good Ranchers is so much bigger,
literally like families so much more intimate with our family,
(05:48):
like I mean literally you know, the founder, the husband
and wife, Ben and Corley. I mean they're very dear
close friends of ours and close friends with like our kids.
I mean, we're just there last night dinner and stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, celebrates one year cancer free. Of the big milestone,
we're gonna have to have them on and let her
share her testimony in their story.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I know, eventually we're gonna we're gonnaarlay this podcast hopefully,
like maybe whenever we move out of this house or whatever,
will like kind of build out like a formal podcast space,
or even just find another place in town, because like
that is an aspiration of this podcast where.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I have a running list of all the people already want.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Which eventually, I mean, it's not just gonna be like forever,
It's not just gonna be just Danielle and I. It's
you know, we're gonna be bringing I mean a big
part of the story of More Than Reality and a
big part of the mission and the the holistic view
of our podcast. Like yes, it's more than reality. It's
kind of a play on you know, we we have
(06:53):
this reality TV career that we have and stuff like that,
and we're so much more than you know, the people
that you see on TV that which you know is
pretty much like a caricature and a sense of who
we are. But also there's a whole other aspect of
more than Reality is everybody out there, all of you guys,
(07:15):
we all have a story to tell and and and
we have, you know, our story, whether whether we feel
that it's insignificant or it's not that powerful of a story,
I believe that everybody out there has a story to
tell from your own life experiences and relationships and stuff
(07:39):
that you have a story to tell that will minister
to someone else out there. I mean, we're Christians, you know,
when we we go to a Bible believing, Gospel centered Christian,
non denominational in Christian church, and and we've always believed that,
you know, sharing your story is powerful, you know, and
(08:00):
sharing like the experiences you've had in your life, which
we've shared awful lot of that, you know, because we
were pretty open book whenever it comes to that. But
you know, those experiences can minister to someone else, and
the things that you've gone through and the trials and
the things, the hard things that you've experienced in life
can minister to other people and just encouraging people to
(08:23):
share their story. And so that's like a whole other
aspect of this podcast that will eventually get get into
in like later seasons where we're going to bring people
in that and one day it could be you that's
listening right now, people that have impactful and powerful stories
of how they've overcome things and that may you know,
(08:46):
potentially minister to other people and just to amplify those stories,
you know, your story. Just us being able to have
the platform to be able to amplify other people's stories
out there can greatly benefit other people.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Well. So yeah, and that's like something I you know,
envisioned creating within the women's like ministry type things that
I'm doing this fall is that like trying to figure
out a way to connect with the people who will
like register to come, but who has a significant story
that we should have a conversation with and like have
(09:21):
like podcasts, you know, sharing of that just to you know,
because not everybody has the avenue of being able to
tell a story. But I love the fact that, like,
you know, I'm going to be putting on this event
and then however many people show up, that's everybody. There's
(09:43):
not a story. But how do I utilize how to
capture a story? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I me while they're there, so much of our of
our story and our experience I mean, God is giving
us a very miraculous and powerful story, but he's also
blessed us significantly significant with a platform, and you know,
we want to to be good stewards of our platform
(10:08):
and not just for our own benefit.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And that's that, like just to say that, it's very
true and I believe it, but it's for me. It's
very hard to act upon that in this in that way,
like having a platform, it's so like overwhelming in a
sense to me. To me because I'm not one to
(10:32):
really like want to be in the front. I can be,
and I'm gonna do it good. I'm gonna do it good.
I'm encouraging myself, but it is very hard to put
yourself on that frontline to like keep it going, you know, like, yes,
(10:58):
we have had this story, had TV show for ten
years and ten seasons all this stuff, and but we
also have a very like I try to say, like
our normal just life of kids and go to school
and go to church and sports and all these things.
And sometimes you have to forge, like I forget all
the time, like did I do a good job today
(11:20):
showing Jesus to someone and not even like maybe speaking
words that say anything like scripture or whatnot. But like,
did I do something today that encouraged someone something that's
like kingdom minded? Yeah, and that could be. And then
when you say, like on the platform, I'm like, Okay,
how did I do that today? Because you know, I
(11:42):
think first step is within the home for sure, and
that's hard in itself just just doing that, you know.
And so to have a platform to be mindful of,
like having to be on a parl like that level
of as a working hour is hard. It's hard for
me because it's real. It's just weird. It's weird because
(12:04):
it's outside of like the normal like nine to five.
Like you know, we can do a film in this
podcast at seven o'clock in the morning, at seven pm,
at one pm, like we.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Have Let's be serious, you're not filming this podcast at
seven am.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I mean I could, but I'm not going to because
I get to we get to pick and choose and
we want to film with not doing anything at seven am. Sure.
I love it, Yeah, no, but I do. It's something
I do pray about, like God, keep me keep me
(12:39):
more mindful on how to UH speak and how to
utilize social media and the tools and the gifts and
all that stuff because it's very hard to I mean,
we follow some amazing people who are very very good
at what they do, and I'll just think I wish
I could just do that. Yeah, but that's it's hard
(13:01):
for me. I mean, and let's be honest.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Social media slump of the last month.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
But how much do you fight with me on how
hard it is to get me to just sit down
and do our own podcast? Trust me? And it's not
because I don't sometimes, and it's not because I don't
want you, because this is what I want to do,
Like I want to I want to share, I want
to be real, I want to talk, I want to
like how I'm like, please someone listen to it besides me.
(13:31):
But it's not that I don't want to do it.
And this is what I tell them. It's not that
I don't want to do it. It's that even though
this is a rhythm and we do this on a
specific day, it's still like I don't know, I don't know,
like enemy like want to like just make me fight.
It's just hard, Like I don't have any other way
to say. It's not natural. It's not natural for me.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Always fought against that, like even even having our TV show.
I mean it's just like, oh, it's just because struggled
like putting herself out there, right, yeah, like once you
get going like you're great at it, it's just the initial.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It's the initial. Yeah, and it's and it was every
single day filming. It didn't matter like these are our people,
these there's our camera crew. This is like it's just
not it's not a comfortable. I guess I guess if
I think about it, I guess I just think too
too little of my capabilities of what God's given us
(14:28):
you do. And that's probably what holds me back, is
that I'm not not like every other woman in this
world probably thinks like I'm not good enough. And I
think that really is like sums down like the root
of like why like even just to come in here
and sit today, I'm just like, you know what am
(14:49):
I going to say today that someone is gonna Those
are lies and thoughts that go through my head a lot,
and those are like internally like about myself, and I
know they're not true because I'm amazing, like Riley.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Would say, and we saw that a lot even on
you know reality TV. Is you know, like what are
what are people really getting out of this? And like
is God really in this? And we struggle with that
a lot. And then you know things that and we've
I think we've briefly mentioned this like on on the
podcast before. It's like, you know, we would have you know,
(15:22):
storylines and just like monotonous storylines or whatever on the
show where we're thinking, like, you know what, what's really
the point in this, Like why aren't we doing this?
Is it is it honoring and is it is it
being a good steward of our story and stuff like that.
And then randomly, like after episodes air, you get all
(15:42):
these like stories back from people, like man like things
that you never would have imagined that people are getting
out of a specific story. You're like, wow, like God,
like no matter what, like God's going to use the
story and He's gonna in the Holy Spirit is going
to speak to people in different ways and we would
(16:03):
have never even imagined. And we see it, and we've
heard the stories and we've gotten the messages and stuff,
and we're like.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Huh, yeah, it's not about us, and it's not. It's
not And we've always said.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
That no matter how small we think we are or
insignificant our story is, and how like we're not enough
like God just right there to like send these people
our way with messages of encouragement and stuff about our
story where we're just like.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So weird messages and across the board we get them
off the wall stuff. Even this week, Daniel gotten the
email makes no sense and it was like Timothy Chela
May is not with Kylie Jenner, He's with Ava and
(16:55):
Adam Details bought a cat, and I mean it is
like I'm thinking, who one why is someone sending this
to me? But everyone in it's funny to read those
things and I'm like, this is so off the wall,
like it makes no sense. But yeah, I mean I
(17:16):
would just say, you know, honestly, as much as I love,
I really do love doing the podcast and I love
this outlet that we have, but I'm we're always like
in a time battle crunch with things and stuff, and
so then I get stressed out because now I'm late
to what's next and YadA YadA yadi. But I still
(17:39):
have a hard time every single time to just come
sit on the mic, you know, and it's just I
don't know, it's just a battle I fight every time.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It's just one of those things is like other people
see things in you that you don't see in yourself.
That's one thing that I've always struggled with, Danielle. You, Like,
I see those things that people say, and I see
you know how you know impactful you are to other
people and other people's lives and stuff like that, And
(18:10):
it's like you believe the lies that you tell yourself
or are just are just believe those lies that are
in your head. You don't feel that same way all
the time, and I know, and so it's just it's
been so hard to like encourage you in that because
I don't know, like you once once I get you
(18:33):
going and like everything's great and and it's awesome, but
it's just getting getting you started, yeah with that and
like crossing that hurdle of just like starting it and
doing it and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I mean we've always kind of struggled with that over
the years.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I don't know what we've got on that tangent. But anyways,
you're gona throw me a card so I can now
process and talk. There we go.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Oh Lord, when you were younger, what dreams did you
have for your future?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Family. Oh, very relevant after just passing up going through
Father's Day was literally that the post that I wrote
and like said about you and stuff. It's like not
growing up but something. And I'm not a political person,
but I've been listening to Hillbilly Elegy with Vance's book,
and it's just I relate so much to it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
All the politics aside, Like his story is so powerful.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Oh my gosh, I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Just somebody who came from nothing, you know, the things
that he's overcome and.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
But just like talking about his family, talking about there's
a lot of things like with his mom and like
just drama and like bad choices and you know, kind
of coming out of that.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I don't know, it's just really been You had a
friend of yours that like recommended yes, because knowing Danielle's story,
she recommended, hey, listen to this guy's story because like
there's some parallels there.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah. And now I finished it today as I was
packing the last couple orders for Grayson B. And so
now I can watch the movie because I heard there
was a movie. Yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The other night I was watching I was watching an
LSU baseball game and you're over there packing orders for
Gayson B And you have your headphones in and I
guess you were listening to the book. It's like every
few minutes, like she busts out laughing.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yes, because when he talks about as grandma, I mean,
she's just so she she cusses like a sailor, and
she don't got time for nobody she loves, but she
will fight somebody quick. I just I don't know, it's
just And I like that it was him reading it,
the audible of it, because it just makes it feel real.
So like when my book is done, I'm going to
(20:46):
be the one doing the audiobook on it. So I'm
gonna sit with him mic and have a hard time
doing that, and then I'm going to be amazing not
doing it anyway. So what did I dream for as
a thing? What was the question for you? Your family?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
What did I dream for as a future family when
you were when you were younger, what dreams did you
have for your future family?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I wanted security, I wanted safety, I want it togetherness,
and I wanted to have a big family. I mean
I grew up with, you know, my two sisters, but
also my cousins were always around, like every weekend. We
were always together, and so just growing up with outside
(21:30):
of just being with my sisters, with cousins and stuff too,
that is what my life was like. And so I
just felt like growing up like I always wanted a
lot of kids. And then when you get into part
of our story of getting married and trying to have
kids and going through infertility, that all became really hard.
(21:50):
And then you know you kind of like see the
way God's work through our story and then end up
with six kids. So that heart's desire of like always
wanted a big family, you know, from a young kid,
was something I think God was promising me in the future,
but it took me trials to get there, to find
him and to know him really. But you know, having
(22:13):
a father for my kids, someone that wasn't just like
called a dad or just my husband, It was like
I want the person kind of hurts me a little
bit at times with expectations, especially over you know, younger
years with you is like which kind of walk through
a lot of that, but just like expectations of you
(22:35):
need to be this for that for them because I
didn't have that, and so my expectations are a lot
higher and you grew up with a solid dad, and
you have expectations for yourself of like what a good
dad is, but my expectations are higher because even with that,
it's like I want the best for them, you know,
(22:57):
And just the fact that like you're hands on, like
you goof around with them, you play with them, you
do stupid things with them to do. You know, it's
just you'll braid their hair, like even watching you breathe
their ears like it's funny. But it's like, yes, like
every dad should be doing that, Like that is That's
(23:18):
what I wanted as a family, like wanting to be together,
hang out together and like family, family, and that is
really what kind of brings us into Like the topic
of today is kind of like talking about the real
question like we don't really talk about because we don't
really it's not like something we've stepped into we're in
the process of, and we brought it up kind of
(23:39):
like I think Adam did last time.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Like Daniel refers to it as me dropping bombs on
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, because like I'm like, dude, kind of give him
a powow before like can you let me know when
you're gonna do that? What are you gonna what are
you gonna say this time, dude, to ask them today?
I was like, what are you going to say today?
That's going to like the hold stuff and then I'll
just like drop it on. I said last week, I
(24:06):
was like, I guess I need to put a microphone
in your face, even if it's not on, just to
get you to tell me something that you want to
like say with me.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Like a lot of things like I process internally, but whenever,
I guess it's just from the years of being on
reality TV and like, you know, you put a camera
in somebody's face and they just you don't want to
just sit there and stare at a camera and not
say something, so you just like it like forces you
to voice your thoughts. Yeah, And and I don't normally
(24:37):
do that, Like I normally keep my thoughts in and
process them before, you know, I think something completely through.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
But like, but whenever I have the right way, like
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Speaker 1 (24:49):
Whenever I have a camera and a mic in front
of me, like I'll just like say it, because.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, it does make you open up, which is good
because like I said, like, so anytime I have a
question with you, I'm gonna be like, let's go into
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Speaker 3 (27:07):
But anyways, Yeah, so, uh, today's topic of conversation is
really about what Adam dropped the bomb on last week.
And we hinted around and we've been talking about like
change and everything, but he basically was like, we're moving,
and I'm like, yeah, I mean we're talking about that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
We've said things over the last probably month of podcasts
or whatever and just like kind of given hints or
beating around the bush on certain things, but never really
like and I think I don't think we were ever
in a really like a place to because I don't
think anything was really thought one hundred percent through. It's
just like God is leading us in this direction and
(27:46):
we need to make a move, and where you are
trying to be obedient in that and just move whenever
we feel that he's saying to move. And you know,
and daniel I was usually quicker to just move on
and act on.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Someone said this not long ago, and I was like,
I'm totally using that on Adam. I just turned quicker
than you. And there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I think you voice your discernment quicker like I okay,
I mean even even the stuff that you know, Danielle,
like voices to me and stuff. It's like it's like
things that I feel like God has placed on my heart,
but I battle against it because I feel like I
(28:37):
need to control and I need to think it through.
And sometimes it may just be fears that I just
like hold myself back from like really engaging with it
because it's something that's scary, and especially like uprooting your
family and moving even though it may be somewhere like
thirty minutes away, but it's just the act of putting
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your house on the market or going are going and
looking for houses and stuff like that, and like like
to me, that's just scary and like I don't like
the process, Like it stresses me out. Maybe that's why
I'm spending so much time at the office. But you know,
for me, like it's something that I feel like I
share with Danielle in the in the pool, in the
(29:21):
pool the poll of like like God speaking and God
like guiding us in a different direction, like and I
feel that and I know that, and it's like thoughts
that I'm wrestling in my head, in my own head,
but not really voicing it, not really wanting to act
on it because it's like I need to think this
(29:44):
through instead of like Danielle will like get something and
she's like, Okay, I feel like God has spoken, I
think we need to do this, and I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa,
pump your brakes and like that's just like the difference
between you and I, right, hmm, yeah, And so you know, yeah,
She'll she'll say things and she'll like get the ball
(30:06):
rolling on certain things. For me, is like really scary
and like hold on, like let's think this through. And
you know, but it's sorry about like all the other variables.
But it's people weird affected and like what this is
going to affect and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
But and it's not that I don't think those things.
It's not that I don't think think about all those
things either. I just look at I I know my
strengths are I can multitask and do multiple things at
one time and process and think of multiple things at
(30:43):
one time. You can't handle that, like just be honest,
like that is overwhelming to you. But I am better,
Like up here, I'm better at this. And you want
to like sit and ponder with your thoughts in your head,
(31:03):
and that drives me nuts because I'm like, nothing's happening,
nothing's getting accomplished. All you're doing is talking yourself in
a circle and a circle in a circle, And I'm like, whoa, Like,
let's unroll the circle and like make progress forward. And
when we when when we try to have conversations, that's
what happens. It's like Adam just I'll say something and
(31:26):
he's like rolling thoughts in his head and I'm like,
what are we thinking? What are we? You gotta tell me,
like multiple times a week, I'm like, dude, how am
I supposed to know that you don't say it out loud.
I can't hear what's in your head, you know, But
it's just trying to well. I will say. I will
(31:48):
say there are things that I would say over this
past year where I definitely have been more in tune
and more focused on like my spiritual growth and because
God has dropped these big things and has been telling
me like this and this, and I'm like, what, Okay,
(32:10):
that's a lot, and that's weird. I don't know why
that would even come up or whatnot, but all of
it's coming through and all of it's happening, and so
it's like, wow, So I need to like be actionable
all these things or it's going to come down to,
like we can't both we can't both be sitting down
(32:31):
with thoughts in our heads. Somebody has to take the
step forward. And that's a little bit more my nature
to do that, because I've grew up doing that for
myself and for sometimes my sisters, and you know, that
was just my my instinct is to just go. And
and that's how it is. When I when I feel
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a certain certain peace like I did the other day,
I'm like, I'm one hundred percent piece on this is
what God wants for? Yes, And it's hard because within
a marriage, and it's like if God has received if
I've received the peace from God, has Adam received the
peace in this topic? And if not? Why? But if so,
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are you going to tell me?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And I'm just constantly battling my own nature of just
like internally processing. And I feel like any anything that
I any decision that I'm pondering, I think about it
holistically before voicing it.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And then you stop and then you stop be honest.
Sometimes yeah, I mean you usually stop until and then
you distract yourself and then it comes back because you
didn't make any progress with those thoughts, so it comes
back to you put a button on it. I'll come
back to that like you like to treat it like
(33:57):
you're editing pause, come back. That's tomorrow anyway. But you know,
it's when you're making when you're making life decisions for
your family, it's hard. It's hard. And you know a
lot of things that we've been, you know, going through
this past year with work changes, family changes, moving changes
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like these are like which means school for kids? What
is like? What does that look like? Like? These are
big things, And it's like it's a lot If we're
not going forward in any way, we're going to be
stagnant and nothing is going to improve or nothing's going
to grow or get better or like whatever it is.
(34:42):
We can't just stay like the phrase of it's okay
to not be okay, but don't stay that way. It's
the same thing with our thoughts, Like we can't keep
telling ourselves the same thing and not changing something, you know,
because you're never going to improve and you're never going
to and you're never gonna make a difference, you know.
(35:03):
So it applies to our own self, but it also
applies to you know, reaching out to other people and
telling people that. So Adam tells me yeh, and he
tells me, I tell him, he tells me. So it's
like we gotta we have to be mindful, like and
everybody who's listening, who's in a marriage, like, you've got
to be mindful that. Like, even if your marriage is
(35:23):
on two separate levels of communication, you got to find
a common ground and you've got to be able to
accept that this one processes and does it differently. So
how do we do it together? How do we come
together and it's hard, and it's hard because guess what,
(35:45):
because when you're married twenty years, you probably have a
few kids and you're working, and then you got dinners
and sports and like you don't you don't get a
lot of that, Like you and your husband. Let's talk
about what the real hard things are right now, the
decisions we have to make time, right, you know, you
don't get a lot of that, but you got to
you gotta do it, and you got to make the
(36:06):
time for it. And it's not always easy, but you
have to do it because that's what's going to make
your family strong. And like to have your marriage be strong,
it's going to make your family strong.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, And so like over the especially like the last
few weeks, as we've kind of been talking about Okay,
yeah we're thinking about moving, We're thinking about a lot
of things and things are happening in our life. We
talk about like how you know, we feel like everything
that's going on in our life, you know, in this
basket that we're holding up. So like God's just kind
(36:43):
of like turned that basket upside down and like no,
like you're going to go through a big change and
and I feel like He has allowed things to happen
in our life that has like forced us into that change.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
A big one is just like the Grayson B stuff
and like allowing that to like slip away and like
allowing just like a lot of a lot of the
things to like just progress very rapidly, like out of
the blue, because how long would we have just tried
to hold onto that, yeah, if he hadn't just like
(37:21):
rapidly like shaken that up. And you know, just the
way that the stuff with the store. You know, we've
had we've had struggles with Grayson B over the last
three plus years just on the building issues that have
caused so many problems with just the store and like
(37:42):
operating the business because of issues that we've had with
the building that have caused so many problems across the board,
with like having to cancel like we would have Danielle
would hold these big monthly get togethers with stuff there
were big revenue drivers and all this stuff, like we
would have to like out of the blue, like cancel
(38:02):
stuff because like a horrible sewage smell like coming up
from the foundation of the building and stuff that's embarrassing,
Like you don't want to have like a nice clothing
boutique and people walk through your door and they're like,
what the heck is that smell? All these things that
you're just having to cancel, which hurts revenue, hurts your
overhead and all this stuff because things that you're anticipating
(38:23):
and things that you're planning for and stuff, and all
of a sudden like, okay, now we had to cancel
it because the issues that we're having with the building
and you know, so like all these years we've had
like all these problems, like every time it would rain,
seem like we would have like leaks all over the building,
and you know, these problems and concerns that you would
bring to you know, the management company that is uh
(38:47):
in a sense protecting the landlord all these years, and
just the lack of response that you would get and
like the slow to action and you know, like small
band aids, it just like would just further the problem
later on down the road. It's just constantly just kicking
the can and just constant struggles, you know, over the
course of three years that finally it just got to
(39:09):
a point where like what are we doing here, you know,
and like we can't take this anymore. Take it gets
to a point where like you start consulting with, you know,
an attorney, and you know, God placed an attorney in
our in our laps that we've been so happy with
that was given us great advice. And it came down to,
(39:29):
just like a couple of months ago, he's like, look,
just from looking at the correspondence, looking at all the
video and photo evidence from all these years and stuff
that you have that from flat out complete negligence on
the part of the landlord. He's like, look, you got
to just move out. You got to terminate your lease
and move out based off of your contract, Like they're
(39:50):
not living up to their end of the deal, and
you just got to you just got to pull out.
At some point, you just got to pull out. Obviously
that's going to upset landlord whenever you just up and
pull out.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Well, it makes it very confusing for a lot of
the town.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Obviously, we've we live in Leake City, Texas, and you know,
it's somewhat of a small but very fast growing community,
and we're very well known in the area and people
know that the store is ours or whatever, and you know,
so you know, we decide, okay, like we got to
close the doors and move out, and then you know,
the landlord obviously they're angry, and then they post a
(40:28):
letter on the door saying, you know that we've defaulted
on payments and blah blah blah. Yeah, because we moved
out and we terminated the least like last month, months ago,
and but it looks bad because they put this nasty
letter on the door saying that we stopped, you know,
we weren't paying rent and stuff, which is in a
(40:48):
sense like not true. Yeah, we're not we're not paying
rent because we moved out of there and we're not
using the space well and you know we early. You're
not seeing those words, right, Okay, we're not paying rent.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Because we terminated our terminated and made it very clear
multiple times.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Our contract the way that the contract was written, and
you weren't living up to your end, and so we
are in right.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
So of course we're not paying we don't have we've
terminated months ago, and so there's now talk of the town.
I feel like this is where.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
It's like, oh, the busbies weren't paying rent and they go, oh,
they got adapted.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I'm like, oh, lord, all the drama that people stir up,
but not one person that I keep hearing anything come from.
Not one person will ask me. Yeah, they they just talk,
just talk like I'm gonna get I'm gonna get fired up.
So I'm going to hold my tongue. But all to
say is that it is a headache and it is
(41:48):
an ordeal, and it has been for years. But there's
very much a peace about abiding to our like our
counsel and our lawyer and doing what we felt like
was the best option in what was contractual in our favor,
you know. And so we did what we were said
(42:11):
to do. And I don't turn away from that. And
you know, the town can believe what the town wants.
But you know, I'll tell my sisters and stuff. So
I'm like, listen, the people, the people who were, you know,
in my bubble, in my circle. People who do ask me,
I will tell them. I'm not I'm not bashing a
(42:32):
personal name. I'm not saying anything like that. I'm just saying,
this is what I have dealt with for three years,
and it got to a point where I had to
get lawyers involved. And this is where it has turned into.
And no, I didn't get evicted. I terminated and I
said I'm leaving. I'm giving you thirty days. I'm out.
And guess what, I did it and we did and
(42:56):
you know, so we were still in a of yeh,
killing with it.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
You know, our our attorney has sent a letter saying,
you know, they terminated their lease blah blah blah, and
you know you got thirty days to respond to the letter,
return like the deposit and all this kind of stuff.
Landlord just flat out, I mean it's way past thirty
days now. Landlord flat out hasn't had zero response, hasn't
(43:25):
even responded to you do you know that.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
They but so but knowing that they had to have
received it because then they went and yeah, they put
it stuff whatever. I don't want to get fired up
because but that's that's that's our side of the story.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
That's the truth, and that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
No, it's not over.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
It's you know, and a lot of people have asked like, well,
why don't you just move somewhere? Well, yeah, because but
you know, we've only been in that space. You know,
we spent the time and money and energy into building
out not to leave after what was Grayson B. With
no intention of like moving out of there for years
(44:09):
and then all of a sudden, like all this stuff
was happening that caused major pains and just running a
business and stuff, and so you know, having to abruptly
terminate that, like you don't just you know, obviously it
takes years to like pay off building like build out
loans and all this stuff that like we haven't fully
(44:31):
had a chance to be able to like pay back
yet like that we still have these like you know,
expenses and stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
It doesn't you can't just you can't just because.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah, you can't just go move We're going to go
move into a new space and like build out a
new store because we're still paying off the last one
in a sense, and so you know, that's that's where
the struggle was, was like we can't just like move
into another space and like start over again because like, yeah,
and in nature that this happened, it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
And then we had conversations of like, okay, let's just
take it back to online and keep it online. And
then you know, just trying to be like open to
this baby project that I've had for seven years and
it's not something I envision not doing, and you know,
but I have also been when we left that space,
(45:24):
just really been seeing Okay, God, like what is this?
Like why are we here? Yeah? Like why are we here?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
And really like seeing like the reason behind, like why
this is happening, and like kind of coming to the
conclusion of like God is a sense allowing this to
happen to like force us like into this new chapter
in our life.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
And and I'm not gonna say, well, I wouldn't say
because of that, I think that that is something that
is a part of a lot of our life changing
that has kind of like helped like push us to
making changes, which is good because it falls in line
(46:09):
with like what we feel, God's shaking the basket, yeah,
weeding things out and stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
But and so you know the portion of like well
then why are y'all moving is you know, you know
a little bit of that is we we feel a
call that God is like removing us from right here, Yeah,
and we feel space and He's calling us to this
other area because it's a more you know, it's a
(46:39):
smaller community, more tight in a community. It's a place
that we feel like God wants us to raise our children,
to live a more intentional life with our children and
in a better, more suited environment for that.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yeah, and I think and I think it's okay, even
though it's hard for the kids to kind of like
ex accept that. But being vulnerable with the kids, we
as parents are we this is what's hard. So as
a parent, you know, God has gifted us with these
children to to steward, to protect, to guide, to lead,
(47:17):
to show them Jesus to all these things. And you know,
when you're when you tell them, okay, like we're going
to sell the house and we're going to move, it's like,
hold up, that's not what we want. That's not what
the kids want. But you have to make hard decisions
because like we we have to do what we feel
is best with the family. And we've been given that
(47:38):
authority from God to say, these are your children, y'all
are responsible for them. And yes, we feel like we're
abiding to you know, what God has been putting on
our hearts. But to walk the season of like making
sure your kids understand that even when they don't want
to is is hard. Like it's hard, But I would
(48:03):
encourage you other parents listening, to hold your ground with
what you feel is best for your family. It's gonna
come down to like you and your spouse being the
leaders of your home to make the decisions of what's
best for your family. My teenager who's who's got emotions
in different opinions every single day, and our ten year
(48:25):
old quintuplets have cannot make that strong of a decision
to say what they feel is best for them because
they don't know. They think they know everything at these ages,
but they don't know. That is why they That is
why we are their parents to guide and teach and
lead them into what we feel is best. Are we
gonna fail, Are we gonna make mistakes of parents? Absolutely?
(48:47):
But as long as we are staying where we feel
connected to God and saying this is the path he
wants to follow us and we receive peace through those
prayers and stuff like, that's game changer for me. Like
when I had a you know, like week or so
at church, Like I came home and I like told Blake.
I was like, Blake, I was like, I know this
is hard. I know you don't want to move. I
(49:09):
know we want to go to different schools, but like
I want to encourage you that it's going to be
fine and you were going to be okay. Because God
has given me peace and it's been decision making and
hard and I feel it's this is what we need
to do. But when I received peace about moving schools,
I'm like, let it be, like it's going to be,
(49:32):
It's gonna happen. And so coming back to her in
her like you know, anxiousness and her worry and friends
and all that, I'm like, but baby, let me tell you,
like I know someone bigger. He told me that you're
going to be just fine. And I have a peace
about that, and I want and I'm telling you that
to encourage you to feel better about the situation because
(49:56):
your your emotions and your hormones and all these things
are to be all over the place. But listen to
me and what I've received from God, and he tells
me that you were going to be just fine. And
there's a piece that that has brought me. And I
tell you so that it can hopefully encourage you to
fil okay with this decision that we're making as a
(50:17):
family for the family, you know, and so be sure
to share those type of things with your kids, and
you know, like tell it's hard, this is hard. I
don't necessarily want to we too have lived here for
twenty years. This is our adult life. This is what
we've grown up around. And we too, yes we do
know people in the other town and other city, but
(50:39):
like it's different.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah, I mean this has been this has been our
home longer than like our original home, you know, like
back in Louisiana. Like we we've lived more life here
right here in League City, Texas than we have you know,
at any other part of our life. Like you know,
we've put roots here and stuff like that, and so yeah,
I'm and it's not it's not a decision that we
(51:02):
take lightly, but I feel like God has orchestrated some
things in our life and blessed us with you know,
even just this house where you know He's given us.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Think when you think back to the day when we had.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Opportunities and yeah, and everything just kind of fell in
line where we were able to get this awesome house.
And then now you know just the nature of like
housing market and just how horrible, how horrible then that
the house.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
You want us to move now, like that's not a
good time.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
But also like of any place in of any place
in Lake City, Texas, I mean, this is a very
like sought after area to live in, which allowed like
home prices and stuff to like skyrockets since we've we've
moved in here, and you know, we've gained a lot
of equity, which allows us to have the opportunity like, look,
(51:57):
we could sell this house, we could move you know,
and area that we want to move into, and it
gives us the ability to be able to just make
a change, get out from under just like whatever kind
of remaining debt that we do have, and also still
you know, come out, you know, and and have the
money to purchase a new house in this new area
(52:18):
and stuff. And so that's that's the decision that we're making,
like you know, holistically, like it's it's better stewards of
our money, it's better stewards of the life that God
has blessed us with uh to make these decisions. And
you know, we don't want to be burdened by you know, okay,
like we we have all these this debt now from
(52:39):
you know, having to abruptly closed down grace and b well,
everything that God is pressing on our heart to do.
You know, the one thing that is allowing allowing us
to make make that move is this house. We don't
want to selfishly just staying here, Like he's blessed us
with this, and now he's given us the uppertunity like okay,
(53:01):
like you can move to this new area so this house,
get out from under everything, and and still be where
I want you to be.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
And so we're going to be obedient. And I believe
it's more than that. I believe it is so much
more than that. But you know, the I feel like
we have just been through these last six months just
so much.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
I feel I feel like I tell a lot of
stories very logically and just kind of just telling the
logical parts of it, and you're very much better at
telling like the heart heart mind. That's why she's like, no,
that's wrong the heart. It's right, the heart, but it's yeah,
you do more with like the heart part of it.
And then I'm just more like I'm thinking the logical
(53:41):
steps all the way through it.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
That makes sense also, Yeah, And I would say we
have been through a lot of hard, big decisions. We
have faced a lot of big heart decisions throughout our life,
very differently type of decisions and having trying to have
a family, getting and it was quintuplets, You're not gonna
make it, They're probably not gonna make it. And going
(54:04):
through the nick you for three months with five babies
and millions of dollars, I mean, it's it is, It
is unforeseen. There's no explanation to me besides but God,
because without Him guiding our lives, I don't think we
would be anywhere where we are today, even as broken,
(54:26):
and as trying to frond the right word I wanted
to say worthless, but not worthless, but even as broken
as we are, like he has come before us and
paved the way, and like has blessed us more than
we ever could imagined. And and so to stay obedient
to that path even when by nature and by our
(54:48):
own like doing, we we say, oh that's hard, or
I don't like that decision. Let me just stay here,
let me keep processing it in my head and not
make a step forward, Like you can't can't do it,
Like you've got to look outside of what your abilities
are and trust in what God has in store for you.
Because if you can stay obedient, which that's been my
(55:10):
word for the years, like obedience. And it hit me
hard because we've had to be obedient to quite a
lot of drastic hard, hard decisions this year and it's
only halfway through the year, So I don't know. I
just like we share this one because a lot of
people are nosy. And two, we do want to be
(55:32):
open and we do want to share our story and
what's happening, but it takes time to be able to lead,
to be able to talk about it correctly. Like you
can't talk about the hurt and mill of the hurt
because you don't know what theout, you don't know what's happening.
You have time to process that hurt and that change
and then talk about it so that you can help
(55:53):
someone in a scenario of the same way. Otherwise you're
not going to be helping anyone because you're still hurt
or you're still in the pit and you're just going
to drag each other down. So, you know, we've been
talking about change for a while and knowing what these
things that we are praying for and doing, but you know,
we do not have a house yet that we are
(56:15):
moving to. We are just confident and know that God
has called us to move and that we are looking
and have our eyes set on one or two and
that we're kind of like going back and forth with
and so in a perfect world, I'm asking God please
let it be before school so that I can get
everyone switched over, not switched between schools. But you know
(56:37):
it's gonna be up to him, ye see when we
get there.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
So, yeah, we don't have any any specific location right now,
and that we're like, yep, this is right where we're moving.
We have the house, yet we don't. We don't really
have yet. We know that's coming, and we're yeah, and
I do, that'll all come through.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
I do. I think I got hit the other day
too with like a little bit of like like God reality,
Like listen, woman, stop getting on the high horse of
having fun shopping for houses and looking for houses when
you need to wrap this other stuff up, you know.
And so there's been a lot of like loosens and
(57:17):
things I've had to tie up with like Grayson B
and whatnot, and still have more to do. But there's
been some dates that I have like pushed and pushed
and like trying to hold onto because it's hard to
let go and say goodbye in a sense. But I
really do feel that he's been like you got to
close this chapter before I open the next one. And
(57:40):
I'm not going to give you more until you've completed
what I've called you to do. And so you know,
I know the time's coming in. And I do feel
like we're in a good place with like, you know,
praying about this one house that we really want to
work out and it's not it's it's amazing and I
(58:02):
and we love it, but it's not it's not our
bougie normal. Yeah, I mean we're making okay. And I'm
saying I'm kind of ready for I'm kind of ready
for that. I'm kind of ready for.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
It's a bit of a fixer upper, is the one
that we're looking at right now. But oh I love
it so much. But it's got a lot of character
and so that we kind of see like a we
see the upside of it, like what it could be.
Speaker 3 (58:27):
It's not nearly but that right now. But one So
we have like two houses, so like one of them
has the pool and place where like podcasts and like
a whole other like all the things, like a tune
one type thing. But this other one we really love
and really feel like that's where God wants us. It
doesn't have a pool, it doesn't it needs some work.
(58:48):
I don't know, like I just I felt when we
both walked through that home, like this is it? And
I told you, I was like, this is the home,
like I feel it, this is the home the kids
may wait wait, which is so fun to say I
feel that because I don't have feelings, but my intuneess
with God is like just it's been like a lot
(59:09):
of prayer and a lot of like meditating on like
this seasons of like all this change. And so I'm
very thankful for that and being able to do and
have conversations like this with people who can pray for
us and constantly like ask us, like how are you doing,
what's the process? Where are you at with work, where
(59:31):
you're at with your family, where you're at with your kids,
where you're at with your your house stuff, where you're
at with the moving, Like how beautiful it is to
have a community of people that you can do that with.
And so if you out there need something like that,
I'm going to tell you to one start praying for
those friends. Second, start encouraging yourself to step outside of
(59:52):
a bubble, put yourself in an uncomfortable situation. Maybe that
means going to a church, Maybe that means going into
a small group of like Christian people that you might
feel uncomfortable and be vulnerable with. We are meant to
do life in community, and it's and it's a life
that is worth living. It's worth living because yes, I
(01:00:14):
have a husband, Yes we have our family, we have
our our our extended family and all that. And it's
beautiful to have a family and have that type of
like community sport. But to do life outside of that
with another family, our Christian family and our church family
that you can walk life with, it's very much of
(01:00:38):
a blessing, may much a blessing. So that so true. Anyways,
any other bombs you want to drop today or I'm good,
okod all right, well then let's drop the end bomb
all right, just this episode though.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Thank you guys for listening to episode thirty eight. Thanks
guys a podcast. We'll see you in the next one.
Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
I hope you like the tea. Alright, hopefully that's set
things straight, alright. We love you guys.
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