August 7, 2025 • 43 mins
We never expected to witness life so clearly before birth… but our journey through a high-risk pregnancy with quintuplets gave us an intimate look at God’s design, purpose, and presence in the womb. In this raw and honest episode, we reflect on how those early glimpses changed everything—from our parenting to our faith.
We also share what TLC couldn’t show, how we keep our marriage strong through chaos, and what it means to hold onto hope when life feels overwhelming.
Plus: front-row concert stories, Blayke’s big tennis tryout, and some real talk on being misunderstood for our faith.
👨👩👧👧 Life, love, and five tiny miracles—we’re diving deep this week.🛏️ Thank you to our sponsor,
Cozy Earth!Use code MORETHAN at https://cozyearth.com for 40% off your order!
We also share what TLC couldn’t show, how we keep our marriage strong through chaos, and what it means to hold onto hope when life feels overwhelming.
Plus: front-row concert stories, Blayke’s big tennis tryout, and some real talk on being misunderstood for our faith.
👨👩👧👧 Life, love, and five tiny miracles—we’re diving deep this week.🛏️ Thank you to our sponsor,
Cozy Earth!Use code MORETHAN at https://cozyearth.com for 40% off your order!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Going on dates, spending time with your spouse's always important,
and I feel like we do, even though it's hard.
I feel like we do a pretty good job of
making priorities for that.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I do get very annoyed whenever people because you're from
Texas or because you're a Christian, anybody that's willing to like,
actually sit down and actually talk about things, you're gonna
find that probably eighty percent of the things that you
talk about you're gonna find common ground on. But nobody
wants to get to the point of talking anymore. And
(00:33):
that's what's so frustrating.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
This is More than Reality podcast where we dive into
all things faith, family, and marriage and share that there
is so much more than the reality that you see
on the surface. Welcome to More than Reality with Adam
and Danielle Busby.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
What's Up?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Welcome to Episode four forty four More than Reality podcast.
This is Adam and Danielle Busby, and.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
We have done more podcasts than my age.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Oh yeah two more.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Actually, yeah, a lot more. Let's just say it, a
lot more.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
That's out of the back.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Danielle's forty two, Am, I I'm forty three. Wait, no,
you're forty one, you'll be.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Forty two this year. Yes, yeah, you'll be forty two
this year.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Dude, don't make me age older than I am.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
It's just a few months away.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Babe, Like half a year now.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
We're at eight months in. This is August.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Oh men, okay, well you're three months away. You're like,
we're okay, change quarters is away there. Everyone likes talking
about their age. I think it's funny, Like whenever you're.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Like, you're forty one and three quarters.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Okay, forty one and three quarters.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
When you're like eighteen, you're like, yes, I'm eighteen, and
you're like, oh, I'm twenty one.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
And then like you get in your fortes and you're like,
I'm forty. It's in my forties.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
My forties, you're over that. Heel, yeah, whatever that means.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
But thirties were fun. Thirties was like a fun age.
Like twenties, you're like trying to figure out life. You
have to be an adult. You're over eighteen, you make decisions,
you're college school, you have jobs, you know, maybe you're
getting married. Thirties just like you're in I feel like
thirties I felt like was like the prime of life,
Like you're having kids career, you're.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Just starting to have kids, yeah, mostly, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And then forties is like people have kids later and later.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Now yeah they are, they are, And like forties it's
you're like in the heart of life. You know, your
kids might be graduate in high school, like in your forties,
and like you're transitioning to single not single, Like your
home changes, like your kids are growing up and they're
moving out of the house to go all empty nesters.
(03:04):
Empty nests, that's the word I.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Was looking for.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So I don't know, but then you know, then I
feel like the fifties is going to be like life
slows down, slows down, but then it's like you're back
just you and your spouse.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah. I mean we've talked and we've talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean a lot of people you get in that
trap of your life revolving around your kids.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah, and then you get lost, like when they.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Leave and you forget who your spouse is in a
sense because every single thing in your life revolves around
the kids for so many years, and then you become
empty nesters and you have to like re learn and
reacquaint who each other are and remember what you fell
in love with.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yes, So constantly dating, going on dates, spending time with
your spouse is always important, and I feel like we
do even though it's hard. I feel like we do
a pretty good job of making priorities for that, and
our kids know that.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It's ebbs and flows. Yeah, sure, I mean, in like.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
The season of like transition and of moving and all
the things, it's definitely been harder to have like one
on one time.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
But dude, did we ever talk about that when we
went to go Goo Dolls?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I don't think we did. Oh my gosh. So we
went on a date.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Literally it was like the week of moving and packing
and all these things, and some friends could go.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It was funny because I mentioned it to Danielle like
a few weeks ago, and then the day of completely
forgot about it. And then my buddy reached out to
me and he said, hey, he bought these tickets a
long time ago. Didn't realize that he was going out
of town that same night, out of the country, like
to Argentina, and so he's like, I'm not going to
(04:54):
be able to use these tickets. I put them up
for sale, but they're literally the best of the best tickets,
and so I don't know if they're going to get
sold or not, because they're literally front and center, front
row for the Goo Goo Dolls. And then we forgot
about it. He told me, like weeks ago, talked about
it with Danielle Man. That'd be super awesome. We love
Googoo Dolls and we've listened to him whenever we were
(05:15):
dating and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
And brings us back to the old days.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, and then he calls me like earlier that day
and he's like, hey, forgot all about this, but the
concerts tonight, you still want to go?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And I was say, uh, we're in the middle of moving.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He literally came up to me. I'm literally on the couch.
He's like, do you want to go to Goo Dolls
concerts night? I said, Oh, my gosh, yes, but I'm
so exhausted, no, I can't imagine.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Like, but we gotta dress, we just have to go.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
We need a break. And I was like, you're right,
we need a break.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Let's do it. And it was so fun. It was
one of the best concerts ever. It was awkwardly.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Close to the point where it's very awkward because we
were so close. We were like in the spit zone
splash the zones. Yes, and you felt obligated to.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Look away if he like caught your eye.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Look into his eyes the whole time as he's singing
all his songs, because he's looking, he'll look down at
you and kind of like smirk or whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
It's like, Wow, that's close.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're like, wow, this is like I've never I don't
think I've ever been to a concert that close. Like
we've had some really good seats at concerts before, but
not center of the stage, front.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Row, Like there's no better seat right there, less than
six feet away from the lead singer.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
And yeah, it was more like four feet.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's like just a little path between for the security guard.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, like you're so he felt so vulnerable. Yeah, you
don't have like a chair to hide behind right in
front of you.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But sometimes through the whole time, no matter what.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, sometimes even to go have fun, it's still so hard.
But I'm glad we took the time out from what
we had on our schedule and just said let's do it.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
And we had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That was awesome night and Dashboard Confessionals Open, which takes
us again back to date dating days and it was
just a fun night to like reminisce and yeah, lots
of old songs.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And then we had our nineteenth wedding anniversary, which we
mentioned that last week that we were going to be
going out of town.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So this past week on.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Tuesday, we flew out our Wednesday, we flew out to Colorado,
to Colorado.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Springs for.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The Messenger Cup. And it's a it's a big event,
the fifteenth year and it's primarily like kind of considered
more of the a fundraiser for John and Lisa Vivier.
John Beavier's company. He is a big evangelist, writes a
ton ton of books. But they have this app and
(07:59):
all these re sources and training materials on Bible studies
and who God is and like all this stuff, and
he offers that for free on his platform. They have
an app called Messenger X. But you know, this whole
thing was to raise funds and to fund all of
(08:21):
the projects, all these projects that he has all over
the world, I mean literally every single country. They have
projects to translate, transcribe, auto dub or audio dub all
of his materials so that it can be spread into
every single country, every single language.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And it was so countries that you know, prosecute the
Christians and stuff like being able to you know, have
this app and translate where it doesn't look like you're
necessarily like opening the Bible or something like that.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Not just to happen.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I mean, they're also they have like books underground printing
presses and stuff where they're actually printing the books and
the native language to pass out and to give to
pastors and church planners and stuff like that, to to
just spread the mess with message.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And anyway, So we went to Colorado Springs for this
event weekend or week or whatever.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
But primarily like a golf tournament, and they had a
big auction and.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
We were going to take the kids like people take
their families. But we were like, you know what, we
didn't do anything for anniversary. Let's just go like just
us and in between the meeting times, we'll go have
some fun and you'll golf and now hike and we
hike together and just had a little getaway and not
(09:52):
the best of timing, but we made it happen.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
We made it work.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Circling back to focusing on your relationship so that you
actually know who each other are later on in life, yeah,
whenever you become empty nesters.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So yeah, so take advantage of those moments because they
go by quick.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Yeah, yes they do.
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Speaker 2 (12:20):
So we went to Colorado Springs. My parents actually came
here because well we originally were going to drive them
to Louisiana or drop them off, come back and then
fly out the next day. And then we found out
Blake was having tennis tryouts for the new school that
she's going to be going to. She hasn't even gone
(12:40):
to school yet there, but she's trying out for the
tennis team, which was I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I'm so glad we found that day out, like yeah,
before we left, because that would have been such a fiasco.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
But been super proud of her for just like putting
herself out there and trying and going in to like
a scary situation because it's a school she's never been to,
kids she's never played with before, people that she's never met,
and she's going out there. She entered a tennis camp
for the new school and then the next week tryouts
(13:16):
and we found out at the end of the week
that she actually made the team, which was super cool
and it was like a big motivation boost for her.
She's going to be going into this new school on
an athletics team, and she's made friends over the last
few weeks, and she's made friends outside of tennis as well,
(13:37):
which has been super cool.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Which is which is awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
So I just keep telling her every time that she
has like this extra boost. Girl, one day you're going
to say thank you Mama and Daddy for following Jesus
and being obedient because I found my people.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, she actually went and had she went to like
a shave dice place earlier today with a few girls
that are going to be.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Going to her school.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, and so she met some new friends and so
she comes home just like excited, and.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, I'm just thankful for people like that that will
kind of go above and beyond to like help you
help your children kind of connect and like help you
like be in the know of like this is what's
happened in the community, and you know, you know, a
bunch of ninth graders are they're going to do this
and that, and so it's just been so helpful because
(14:30):
it's been very easy for the quins to just like
play outside and meet friends.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, there's like four girls here right now, extra girls
on top of our five ten year olds that are
just like at me every day. I went to work
this morning, had a bunch of meetings, got home and
right of them pulling in the driveway, Blake's pulling in
with her two friends that she went and had snow
cones with. And then there's two other girls walking into
(14:59):
the yard to go knock on the door to go
play with the quints and it's just I don't know, man,
it's it's amazing. I mean, it's just blessings on blessings
and you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It's like those small it's like I don't wanna, I
don't feel like I need to feel rewarded.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
But it's like these small, those small little things like.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Just help no help us know that being obedient to
like the path that we are interusting, like God's directing
us down. It's not always easy, just those small little things, yeah,
because I just bring a lot of joy.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Our biggest probably one of our biggest worries was just
the kids adjusting and the kids meeting people, and you know.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
And people like that's that's their biggest that's.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Their biggest fear because you know, you say, we're moving,
you're moving away from your current friends and stuff like that,
and so you know, that was our fear. And you know,
it's just one of those reassurances that God gives us
that you're you're doing what I want and I'm blessing
this situation. And it's just like little every single day,
(16:05):
it's just like little godwinks of someone, I'm taking care
of you and and they're gonna be Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, someone just asked me.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
What what I totally just had like a brain part.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Because kids are screaming in the background.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
What was I gonna say? I don't remember. It'll come
back to me.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's funny because like right as you're coming up with
that thought, I heard sounding like ava laughing in the background.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Anyway, so along, let me find these notes.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Adam gets distracted when he sees me looking at something,
he gets distracted.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
So I'm trying to like not it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I do think it's funny because, like you know, especially
since we've talked started the podcast and stuff, and you know,
you do hear a lot of you know, the real
things that we care most about, which you know, a
big part of that. One of the biggest parts of
that is our faith. And you know, you didn't really
(17:16):
see a whole lot of that on our TV show, naturally,
because it's on a secular television network run by editors
that aren't us, and and so a lot of a
lot of the conversations, a lot of the answers and
stuff that we give on our television show that do
center around our faith would be some of the very
(17:37):
first things that get cut out, you know, later on
down the road. Whenever we actually have our own platform
where we're actually talking about the things that we care
most about, you know, people are like, oh, I never
knew this about y'all or whatever, good or bad, you know,
whether it's positive or negative criticism. But the more that
we talk about that, you know, it's just funny because
(18:01):
you I mean, trust me, we get tons of positive
comments and we are so grateful for the very positive
comments about you know, just thank you for the encouragement.
I'm so glad that you guys are open and willing
to talk about these sorts of things.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yeah, and then encouragement to keep doing it too.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know, we get tons of that, and I would
say it's very much needed for sure, especially in a
season of like change.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
And even though you know, we love.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Talking about our heart and topics like that, it's still and.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's not the only thing that we talk about battle like, Yeah,
we talk about real things and things that you know,
impact our family, impact our relationship, impact each other, you know,
just personal things that we are just open about. We're
pretty open book, especially on the podcast, and it's just funny,
like some of the comments, and trust me, I do
(18:58):
think it's funny.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I'm so curious what you're gonna say that.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You know, people that hear that side of it, hear
you know, our faith side of it. It's just odd
that it's you get a visceral response from it, like
they're angry about it, or you know, they don't want
us talking about it.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
It's almost more of.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
An encouragement to talk about it, because if you even
if you don't agree with it or don't believe what
we believe, like that doesn't mean, you know, you need
to be hateful about it or whatever. Or I don't know,
I've just gotten some really off the wall comments or
direct messages lately. I'm just like, Wow, I don't get
(19:43):
that upset about other things that I see on social
media whenever it's something that I don't agree with, but
whenever it's about faith, like you get a very angry.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Response from people.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And like I've just of been pondering along those lines
like the last few days, like why such an angry
response instead of just like, oh, you know, I don't
necessarily agree with that or believe in that, or or
I'm still seeking and trying to understand that. It's not
that it's like all the way on the other side,
(20:19):
like just angry about it.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, so they're offended because of something in their past
that they possibly have not dealt with that continuously, when
they hear something, it triggers the offense from the past.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And it could be I mean, like I know a
lot of people, and I mean we've had like even
church hurt in the past, where you know, things have
happened within the church. I mean, obviously people are flawed
and people and it's people, you know, it's not it's
not necessarily Christianity. It's the people hurt you and or
(20:57):
people have manipulated and changed stuff. And you know, just
before this, Daniel was talking about like just religion in
general and how like religion has like completely perverted like
Christianity and the Gospel and the Bible and you know,
and I think that's why, you know, people get so
(21:21):
worked up because they try to lump and especially in
the United States, they try to lump Christians with Donald
Trump or Christians with the Republican Party. And like I
know many Christians that are Democrats, and you know, because
they just believe different things. And that's okay to believe
(21:43):
different things, and it's okay to have conversations and it's
okay to talk about stuff, but it's it's gotten so
crazy the past probably.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Six to eight years.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Where and we've had people come, you know and message
us directly on social media media and they try to
lump us in with like this group because we're Christians,
or because we're from Texas or and a lot of
the things that they say, I'm like, well, I don't
really agree with that, Like you're trying to You're trying
to You're trying to lump me into this group of
people that I don't even agree with. Yeah, you know,
(22:17):
we we talk about specific topics, like you know, whenever
we had because it's topics that we have a very
close and personal relationship with. Whenever it comes to like
I mean, we're definitely very much of pro life because
we have a very deep story.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
That connects us to walking a life of having to
make decisions.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Like that, and because we've seen stuff and we've had
very intimate views into you know, the lives of the
unborn based off of the many, the many, many many
ultrasounds that we've had before having the quints, and we
got this very intimate view of them and their personality
(23:00):
before they were ever born, which shine a light and
saying and they were people before they were born. Which
there's a group of people out there that don't even
think that they're human or they're not really people until
they come out of the mom So.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
If you're going to ask that person, always get so.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And if you try to argue or you try to
like kind of tell your point of view, they just
get angry and they don't want to hear it, and
they don't want to they don't want to hear any
sort of like alternating view. But we have a very
specific perspective and a very real perspective on it in life,
which which gives us our belief.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, and yes we can read something and believe something,
but in our story, like we didn't just read something
or see something like we lived it. We got a
very up close and personal view on life before life
is born, right, and so we believe life.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Is that conception.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And it's because that is how not just something that
we believe God has said, but something that we have
experienced in our own life story and testimony of you know,
becoming pregnant with quintuplets and having so many appointments to
(24:27):
make sure that they're growing in their you know, how
they are developing and growing every other week. It was
an appointment after appointment for hours, and so we are
seeing just different things and feeling different things.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
But being able to have like a visual.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And it's almost like, you know, I'd love to like
make a documentary of like tracking something like that, because
it's not I don't think anyone could.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Really kind of did, but it got cut out, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
We had to but no, like more of like documentary. Yeah,
I feel like we need to do that, Okay, so
put that in your schedule. Twenty twenty six, documentary of
Life before Breath. That a project there, but it really did,
(25:22):
you know, and especially because we had a daughter before
we had the quins, so I already walked through a
pregnancy and I'm telling you not that I had a
different perspective, but it was a different intimate understanding.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
It gave a deeper.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
View on life, you know, and then how precious life is,
how how God molds each one of us and knows
each one of us and personality before birth, before birth.
So where we say like this is what we believe,
it's because we walked it.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
It's because we saw it. It's because we felt it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, And so you know, whenever you read like a
passage in the Bible that talks about like you know
before you were born, like I knew you, I knitted
you in the womb, and you know, and all these
things like I knew you. You can't help but like
go back and think about man like our experience through
that and to see that because like that's how we felt.
(26:29):
We felt like we knew them to the point of
giving them nicknames and stuff in the womb. Yeah that
now ten years later, they're ten years those same personalities
have carried over to this day on just how they
interact and how they how they are, and those same
nicknames that we've given them in the womb have carried over.
(26:52):
And it's just crazy and you can't help it. Like
go back in reference like that scripture. Sure you're just
like wow, yeah, that makes it. That makes sense to us.
And and so it gives us and it gives us
as such a different perspective that most people will never get.
(27:12):
And and that formalizes our belief you know, and and
so you know, yeah, you can get frustrated or angry
because we believe this way, but like we have a
very unique and intimate view of life before conception or
life before birth, and well.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And then and then to further on that topic of
seeing life born at twenty eight weeks gestational pregnancy. So
I'm seven months pregnant and twenty eight weeks in two days,
and I had five babies. So seeing life be born
(27:52):
and survive before.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
It should be it should be at.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Forty weeks you know, full term pregnancy is just another
ten estimate to our beliefs of like watching them develop,
watching them grow, watching those things like you know, in
the womb at this phase, they would be learning how
to swallow or you know, just certain certain skills and
(28:19):
refluxes that they didn't know how to do. And now
we're watching them learn these things outside of the womb.
You know, it's just it's miraculous. I mean, I think
our vision, in our view on life is just so extraordinary,
you know, and it's an extraordinary story that I really
do feel like we need to like pray about how
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to how to really make that and.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
We do, and we do get a lot of rebuttals
from people that are like, well it was the doctors,
what was we had.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Very good doctors that cared for our kids.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And we are truly grateful for the doctors and nurses
that cared for our kids. But I mean there was
even things about just how the kids fared through the
nick you fared through the birth Danielle even carrying them
that even left.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
The doctors puzzled.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, and even years later, the doctors going back to
you know, those nurses in the nick yoube that we're
keeping up with us, and then they're just dumbfounded that
this doesn't happen, that the girls were doing so well.
And you know, so there's a lot of things that
like okay, yeah, medicals.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah, the doctors will may even understand.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
The doctors may be great, but you know, there's there
was there was an X factor there that was carrying
these babies through and so I mean there was just
there's just something else there that you know, we believed
in that, you know, God showed us and we had
confidence in all through all through the pregnancy of the
(29:54):
nick you and and even beyond and yeah, and and
we you know, conveyed that confidence to the doctor that
he was just like looking at us like we're crazy
through that time and then everything panned out and he's like, hmm,
there's something different there, and even to the point of
(30:16):
like coming back to and visiting you know, the girls
years later at our house and stuff, just because he
wanted to see it and he wanted to see the
kids again and stuff like that, and because it's it
doesn't always fare that way.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I actually was just doing some research just recently for
whatever reason, I don't even know about like quintuplets and
all girls and stuff. I think if someone had asked
me a question, it made me wonder what has happened
since then? And you know, the first quintuplets were the
Dion quintuplets.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I think all.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Girls, all girl, the first all girl quintuplets. They were
born in Canada, I think in the thirties, nineteen thirties.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
In thirty four or something like that.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
They were actually they weren't just quintuplets. They were identical quintuplets.
So one egg split five times incredible. And then there
was a set in the UK and then the Buzzby quintuplets.
So since then, since the quins were born, our girls
were born. I was wondering if there's been another set
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of all girl quints and we know about them because
they were born in Texas and like Midland, Texas.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
And that story's very different than ours.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
But other than that, it hasn't happened again. And so like,
I just feel like as hard as our days might
be and as hard as it is to parent, and
as much as people might say, well you chose this,
I'm sorry, I don't know who's who says let's let's
have Adam. If I O came, he was like, I
(31:51):
really want to have quintuplets.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
He says.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That says that you know how to even pray for
that until unless you know you're at that phase.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You know, it's it is funny like whenever you're telling
our story or people find out we have quintuplets and stuff,
they're like, yep, we.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
All trying to have quintuplets. Like no, we're trying for one.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Moment, who does that? Who says that, you know?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Nobody, nobody just jumps to I want to try to
have quintuplets.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, but it just it just makes me see God
as so grand and that even even with someone as
little old us he's from Louisiana with Texas and you know,
struggle to have kids before and then having Blake and like,
(32:40):
I mean, you're gonna have quintuplets, and it's like what,
you know, like no one, no one thinks about having
people to this day will say like I really want
to have twins.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I mean even our girls will say like I would
love to have a boy twin and a girl twin.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
You know, but it's like people don't.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Because because multiple for this coma.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
But people don't ask for this or pray for this
or dream of this.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I mean, it's not a normal thing.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
And so I definitely, you know, feel that it's kind
of part of our purpose.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Is like God wanting us to share.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
His story through this, his grace through this, his love
through this, his miracles through.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
This, and you know, it's it's not always easy.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
And I think what I was going to say earlier,
maybe this was something it was something I had to
tie into.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
This was when I look at.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Challenges we face and obstacles and when things are hard
versus when things are easy. I think when things are hard,
what makes them easier to accept or to go forward
(34:06):
with is whenever you take yourself out of it. So
meaning when I look back and say, one of the
absolute most hardest extremous faith driven. Like life that we
lived was when I thought less about me and my
(34:29):
priority was the kids, yeah, health, the goals. Like it
wasn't about me, it was about how how like God's
brought us here. If it's up to me, I'll probably fail.
And I probably felt a couple of times with selfishness
and giving in. But because my eyes were set amongst
(34:53):
myself and my own desires and needs, I was I
didn't want to quit work, I didn't want to change kers,
I didn't want to like leave my job. All those
things just had to do because my eyes were set
amongst things outside of me. Right, And I think whenever
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we can step outside of like our own desires and
look at the desires of others and so offering grace.
And I think every parent has to walk through this, and.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
It's not easy. It's not easy.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's when we see how things bloom and how things.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Are better.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yes, I mean, and like another part of that is,
like you know, a lot of times, especially whenever we
get overwhelmed or frustrated and stuff, you kind of have
this like very narrow worldview where in a sense you
think of the war world walls around me, or like
I am. All of this hinges on me, And whenever
(35:59):
you kind of separate yourself and realize, like, it's not
about me, It's not about even if it's like work
or whatever, this project isn't solely about me. You know,
I'm working with a team, you know, I maybe a
leader or whatever. But whenever you kind of remove yourself
from that, you know, it makes things easier. You separate
(36:23):
that me mentality from things, and you know, you realize,
you know, I have a whole team around me, or
I have you know, this other aspect that is going
to help me get this job done and.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Kind I mean, and that applies in marriage too, with
you know, in confrontation and in arguments and fights and disagreements.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
It's often we have to remind ourselves.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
We are a team.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
We want in the end goal, we want the same.
We're seeing things quite differently from our own perspectives. So
let me see it as you see it so that
I can better understand. And so I mean, it's the
same thing like it applies to parenting, it applies to friendships,
to all of it, all the things.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, I mean, like applying it to you know, parenting
or your marriage and stuff like that. I mean, if
you have a completely narrow view of everything anything that
Daniel's Daniel does, you know, and I view it as
she's doing that to me, and I get really personal
about every single thing instead of.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
You know, no, she's she's not, she's not. Every one of.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Our decisions isn't directed at me. It's you know, it's
for the betterment of our family, and it's for like
the team of our family. And you know, you remove that,
you know, and you see that we're a team and
we're not just like two individual parents, like making decisions
that we feel like it's best or whatever. But you know,
(38:00):
in every argument that we get in, you know, you
have to take a step back and realize, Okay, this
isn't us fighting each other. You know, we're a team
fighting this situation or this decision or whatever. And once
you pull yourself back a little bit, you're you're able
to get a little bit of different perspective and try
(38:22):
to think of it from the other point of point
of view or you know, the family holistic point of view,
and things look a lot different.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Anyway, I'm pretty sure this is one wasn't what we
were going to talk about today.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
But I feel like it's been good conversation.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Hopefully it's I was just trying to get away from
Donald Trump as quick as possible.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I feel like we I feel like you did throw
out some major, like headline topics that would stir up
a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
But I do get very annoyed whenever people because you're
from Texas or because you're a Christian, anybody that's willing
to like actually sit down and actually talk about things,
you're gonna find that probably eighty percent of the things
that you talk about you're gonna find common ground on.
But nobody wants to get to the point of talking anymore.
(39:17):
And that's what's so frustrating, because probably eighty a good
eighty percent, you're gonna find common ground, and you're gonna
find things that you both agree on. And I truly
believe that because I've had conversations with people that are
just willing to talk, and you know, people that have
completely polar views of you. Every single time, it's probably
(39:37):
eighty percent, oh yeah I agree with that, or yeah,
like I mostly agree with that, but there's just one
little portion of that and it's fine. Yeah, it's fine
to have an opposing view, Like, I mean, yes, there's
been things that Donald Trump or Joe Biden or whoever.
There's been things that they've done that I have agreed with,
(39:58):
but there's also a lot things that I don't agree with. Yeah,
And like you know, anytime that Donald Trump gets on
the news or whatever, I kind of cringe at what
the heck he's gonna say, because I don't like how
he carries himself and through most things. And I mean
anybody that's just very arrogant, and I just I don't know,
(40:19):
I don't like it. But and I'm not saying I
am a supporter or I don't or I'm not, because
I don't. We're family feel like we don't support a
single person or a single side of anything. Like there's
things that we agree with and don't agree with on
both sides, and we kind of stay on that line.
(40:43):
And you know, we don't necessarily like jump into one boat.
Everybody just wants to lump each other into a thing
and then not have a conversation. And and I think
that's just the wrong way because I feel like years ago,
whenever I was a kid, like you could still have
conversations with people about stuff, and nowadays you just can't
and that's wrong. I mean you get to a point
(41:05):
where like what are we doing here? And I feel
like social media has like completely ruined the way people
communicate and it's further polarized everyone where there truly is
common ground there, And I feel like people just need
to get back to having conversations and being able to
(41:28):
be free to just like voice what you believe in
and not be scared to canceled or shout it down
or whatever because you have a certain belief because there's
always common ground.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Stupid rent.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Sorry anyways, Well I guess I mean, I guess we
should wrap this episode up. My phone keeps going off
by my daughter and they're probably like, what's for dinner?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Mom?
Speaker 5 (42:01):
So hope you enjoyed today's episode.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
It was a little bit, a little bit of a
lot completely off the cuff, pretty much found.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Pick up a conversation, but I feel like it's it's
worth an episode to kind of like throw out some.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Of our We had some topics that we were kind
of discussing before the podcast and then it just went
off the rails.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
So thank you, thank you for still listening for still listening.
It's one of those it's one of those episodes.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
But we love you guys.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
And this was.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Episode forty four.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
More than reality podcast. We'll see you in the next one,
all right. We love you guys.
Going on dates, spending time with your spouse's always important,
and I feel like we do, even though it's hard.
I feel like we do a pretty good job of
making priorities for that.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I do get very annoyed whenever people because you're from
Texas or because you're a Christian, anybody that's willing to like,
actually sit down and actually talk about things, you're gonna
find that probably eighty percent of the things that you
talk about you're gonna find common ground on. But nobody
wants to get to the point of talking anymore. And
(00:33):
that's what's so frustrating.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
This is More than Reality podcast where we dive into
all things faith, family, and marriage and share that there
is so much more than the reality that you see
on the surface. Welcome to More than Reality with Adam
and Danielle Busby.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
What's Up?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Welcome to Episode four forty four More than Reality podcast.
This is Adam and Danielle Busby, and.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
We have done more podcasts than my age.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Oh yeah two more.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Actually, yeah, a lot more. Let's just say it, a
lot more.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
That's out of the back.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Danielle's forty two, Am, I I'm forty three. Wait, no,
you're forty one, you'll be.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Forty two this year. Yes, yeah, you'll be forty two
this year.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Dude, don't make me age older than I am.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
It's just a few months away.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Babe, Like half a year now.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
We're at eight months in. This is August.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Oh men, okay, well you're three months away. You're like,
we're okay, change quarters is away there. Everyone likes talking
about their age. I think it's funny, Like whenever you're.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Like, you're forty one and three quarters.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Okay, forty one and three quarters.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
When you're like eighteen, you're like, yes, I'm eighteen, and
you're like, oh, I'm twenty one.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
And then like you get in your fortes and you're like,
I'm forty. It's in my forties.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
My forties, you're over that. Heel, yeah, whatever that means.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
But thirties were fun. Thirties was like a fun age.
Like twenties, you're like trying to figure out life. You
have to be an adult. You're over eighteen, you make decisions,
you're college school, you have jobs, you know, maybe you're
getting married. Thirties just like you're in I feel like
thirties I felt like was like the prime of life,
Like you're having kids career, you're.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Just starting to have kids, yeah, mostly, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And then forties is like people have kids later and later.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Now yeah they are, they are, And like forties it's
you're like in the heart of life. You know, your
kids might be graduate in high school, like in your forties,
and like you're transitioning to single not single, Like your
home changes, like your kids are growing up and they're
moving out of the house to go all empty nesters.
(03:04):
Empty nests, that's the word I.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Was looking for.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So I don't know, but then you know, then I
feel like the fifties is going to be like life
slows down, slows down, but then it's like you're back
just you and your spouse.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah. I mean we've talked and we've talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean a lot of people you get in that
trap of your life revolving around your kids.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah, and then you get lost, like when they.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Leave and you forget who your spouse is in a
sense because every single thing in your life revolves around
the kids for so many years, and then you become
empty nesters and you have to like re learn and
reacquaint who each other are and remember what you fell
in love with.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yes, So constantly dating, going on dates, spending time with
your spouse is always important, and I feel like we
do even though it's hard. I feel like we do
a pretty good job of making priorities for that, and
our kids know that.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It's ebbs and flows. Yeah, sure, I mean, in like.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
The season of like transition and of moving and all
the things, it's definitely been harder to have like one
on one time.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
But dude, did we ever talk about that when we
went to go Goo Dolls?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I don't think we did. Oh my gosh. So we
went on a date.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Literally it was like the week of moving and packing
and all these things, and some friends could go.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It was funny because I mentioned it to Danielle like
a few weeks ago, and then the day of completely
forgot about it. And then my buddy reached out to
me and he said, hey, he bought these tickets a
long time ago. Didn't realize that he was going out
of town that same night, out of the country, like
to Argentina, and so he's like, I'm not going to
(04:54):
be able to use these tickets. I put them up
for sale, but they're literally the best of the best tickets,
and so I don't know if they're going to get
sold or not, because they're literally front and center, front
row for the Goo Goo Dolls. And then we forgot
about it. He told me, like weeks ago, talked about
it with Danielle Man. That'd be super awesome. We love
Googoo Dolls and we've listened to him whenever we were
(05:15):
dating and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
And brings us back to the old days.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, and then he calls me like earlier that day
and he's like, hey, forgot all about this, but the
concerts tonight, you still want to go?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And I was say, uh, we're in the middle of moving.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He literally came up to me. I'm literally on the couch.
He's like, do you want to go to Goo Dolls
concerts night? I said, Oh, my gosh, yes, but I'm
so exhausted, no, I can't imagine.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Like, but we gotta dress, we just have to go.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
We need a break. And I was like, you're right,
we need a break.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Let's do it. And it was so fun. It was
one of the best concerts ever. It was awkwardly.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Close to the point where it's very awkward because we
were so close. We were like in the spit zone
splash the zones. Yes, and you felt obligated to.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Look away if he like caught your eye.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Look into his eyes the whole time as he's singing
all his songs, because he's looking, he'll look down at
you and kind of like smirk or whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
It's like, Wow, that's close.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're like, wow, this is like I've never I don't
think I've ever been to a concert that close. Like
we've had some really good seats at concerts before, but
not center of the stage, front.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Row, Like there's no better seat right there, less than
six feet away from the lead singer.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
And yeah, it was more like four feet.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's like just a little path between for the security guard.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, like you're so he felt so vulnerable. Yeah, you
don't have like a chair to hide behind right in
front of you.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But sometimes through the whole time, no matter what.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, sometimes even to go have fun, it's still so hard.
But I'm glad we took the time out from what
we had on our schedule and just said let's do it.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
And we had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That was awesome night and Dashboard Confessionals Open, which takes
us again back to date dating days and it was
just a fun night to like reminisce and yeah, lots
of old songs.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And then we had our nineteenth wedding anniversary, which we
mentioned that last week that we were going to be
going out of town.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So this past week on.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Tuesday, we flew out our Wednesday, we flew out to Colorado,
to Colorado.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Springs for.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The Messenger Cup. And it's a it's a big event,
the fifteenth year and it's primarily like kind of considered
more of the a fundraiser for John and Lisa Vivier.
John Beavier's company. He is a big evangelist, writes a
ton ton of books. But they have this app and
(07:59):
all these re sources and training materials on Bible studies
and who God is and like all this stuff, and
he offers that for free on his platform. They have
an app called Messenger X. But you know, this whole
thing was to raise funds and to fund all of
(08:21):
the projects, all these projects that he has all over
the world, I mean literally every single country. They have
projects to translate, transcribe, auto dub or audio dub all
of his materials so that it can be spread into
every single country, every single language.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And it was so countries that you know, prosecute the
Christians and stuff like being able to you know, have
this app and translate where it doesn't look like you're
necessarily like opening the Bible or something like that.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Not just to happen.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I mean, they're also they have like books underground printing
presses and stuff where they're actually printing the books and
the native language to pass out and to give to
pastors and church planners and stuff like that, to to
just spread the mess with message.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And anyway, So we went to Colorado Springs for this
event weekend or week or whatever.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
But primarily like a golf tournament, and they had a
big auction and.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
We were going to take the kids like people take
their families. But we were like, you know what, we
didn't do anything for anniversary. Let's just go like just
us and in between the meeting times, we'll go have
some fun and you'll golf and now hike and we
hike together and just had a little getaway and not
(09:52):
the best of timing, but we made it happen.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
We made it work.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Circling back to focusing on your relationship so that you
actually know who each other are later on in life, yeah,
whenever you become empty nesters.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So yeah, so take advantage of those moments because they
go by quick.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Yeah, yes they do.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And now we're going to take a break for our sponsor,
which is Cozier. So we have been doing some traveling
and we currently moved. We've been traveling and literally all
I can think about is getting back into my bed
with my cozy earth sheets. And funny that a friend
of mine knows that I've been looking for decorations stuff
(10:38):
for the bedroom and like furniture, bedding and all that
kind of things. She sent me some amazing cute printed
sheets and I said, these are amazing, but I will
never replace my.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Cozy hearth sheets.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
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So we went to Colorado Springs. My parents actually came
here because well we originally were going to drive them
to Louisiana or drop them off, come back and then
fly out the next day. And then we found out
Blake was having tennis tryouts for the new school that
she's going to be going to. She hasn't even gone
(12:40):
to school yet there, but she's trying out for the
tennis team, which was I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I'm so glad we found that day out, like yeah,
before we left, because that would have been such a fiasco.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
But been super proud of her for just like putting
herself out there and trying and going in to like
a scary situation because it's a school she's never been to,
kids she's never played with before, people that she's never met,
and she's going out there. She entered a tennis camp
for the new school and then the next week tryouts
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and we found out at the end of the week
that she actually made the team, which was super cool
and it was like a big motivation boost for her.
She's going to be going into this new school on
an athletics team, and she's made friends over the last
few weeks, and she's made friends outside of tennis as well,
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which has been super cool.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Which is which is awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
So I just keep telling her every time that she
has like this extra boost. Girl, one day you're going
to say thank you Mama and Daddy for following Jesus
and being obedient because I found my people.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, she actually went and had she went to like
a shave dice place earlier today with a few girls
that are going to be.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Going to her school.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, and so she met some new friends and so
she comes home just like excited, and.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, I'm just thankful for people like that that will
kind of go above and beyond to like help you
help your children kind of connect and like help you
like be in the know of like this is what's
happened in the community, and you know, you know, a
bunch of ninth graders are they're going to do this
and that, and so it's just been so helpful because
(14:30):
it's been very easy for the quins to just like
play outside and meet friends.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, there's like four girls here right now, extra girls
on top of our five ten year olds that are
just like at me every day. I went to work
this morning, had a bunch of meetings, got home and
right of them pulling in the driveway, Blake's pulling in
with her two friends that she went and had snow
cones with. And then there's two other girls walking into
(14:59):
the yard to go knock on the door to go
play with the quints and it's just I don't know, man,
it's it's amazing. I mean, it's just blessings on blessings
and you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It's like those small it's like I don't wanna, I
don't feel like I need to feel rewarded.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
But it's like these small, those small little things like.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Just help no help us know that being obedient to
like the path that we are interusting, like God's directing
us down. It's not always easy, just those small little things, yeah,
because I just bring a lot of joy.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Our biggest probably one of our biggest worries was just
the kids adjusting and the kids meeting people, and you know.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
And people like that's that's their biggest that's.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Their biggest fear because you know, you say, we're moving,
you're moving away from your current friends and stuff like that,
and so you know, that was our fear. And you know,
it's just one of those reassurances that God gives us
that you're you're doing what I want and I'm blessing
this situation. And it's just like little every single day,
(16:05):
it's just like little godwinks of someone, I'm taking care
of you and and they're gonna be Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, someone just asked me.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
What what I totally just had like a brain part.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Because kids are screaming in the background.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
What was I gonna say? I don't remember. It'll come
back to me.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's funny because like right as you're coming up with
that thought, I heard sounding like ava laughing in the background.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Anyway, so along, let me find these notes.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Adam gets distracted when he sees me looking at something,
he gets distracted.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
So I'm trying to like not it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I do think it's funny because, like you know, especially
since we've talked started the podcast and stuff, and you know,
you do hear a lot of you know, the real
things that we care most about, which you know, a
big part of that. One of the biggest parts of
that is our faith. And you know, you didn't really
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see a whole lot of that on our TV show, naturally,
because it's on a secular television network run by editors
that aren't us, and and so a lot of a
lot of the conversations, a lot of the answers and
stuff that we give on our television show that do
center around our faith would be some of the very
(17:37):
first things that get cut out, you know, later on
down the road. Whenever we actually have our own platform
where we're actually talking about the things that we care
most about, you know, people are like, oh, I never
knew this about y'all or whatever, good or bad, you know,
whether it's positive or negative criticism. But the more that
we talk about that, you know, it's just funny because
(18:01):
you I mean, trust me, we get tons of positive
comments and we are so grateful for the very positive
comments about you know, just thank you for the encouragement.
I'm so glad that you guys are open and willing
to talk about these sorts of things.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yeah, and then encouragement to keep doing it too.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know, we get tons of that, and I would
say it's very much needed for sure, especially in a
season of like change.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
And even though you know, we love.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Talking about our heart and topics like that, it's still and.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's not the only thing that we talk about battle like, Yeah,
we talk about real things and things that you know,
impact our family, impact our relationship, impact each other, you know,
just personal things that we are just open about. We're
pretty open book, especially on the podcast, and it's just funny,
like some of the comments, and trust me, I do
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think it's funny.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I'm so curious what you're gonna say that.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You know, people that hear that side of it, hear
you know, our faith side of it. It's just odd
that it's you get a visceral response from it, like
they're angry about it, or you know, they don't want
us talking about it.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
It's almost more of.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
An encouragement to talk about it, because if you even
if you don't agree with it or don't believe what
we believe, like that doesn't mean, you know, you need
to be hateful about it or whatever. Or I don't know,
I've just gotten some really off the wall comments or
direct messages lately. I'm just like, Wow, I don't get
(19:43):
that upset about other things that I see on social
media whenever it's something that I don't agree with, but
whenever it's about faith, like you get a very angry.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Response from people.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And like I've just of been pondering along those lines
like the last few days, like why such an angry
response instead of just like, oh, you know, I don't
necessarily agree with that or believe in that, or or
I'm still seeking and trying to understand that. It's not
that it's like all the way on the other side,
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like just angry about it.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, so they're offended because of something in their past
that they possibly have not dealt with that continuously, when
they hear something, it triggers the offense from the past.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And it could be I mean, like I know a
lot of people, and I mean we've had like even
church hurt in the past, where you know, things have
happened within the church. I mean, obviously people are flawed
and people and it's people, you know, it's not it's
not necessarily Christianity. It's the people hurt you and or
(20:57):
people have manipulated and changed stuff. And you know, just
before this, Daniel was talking about like just religion in
general and how like religion has like completely perverted like
Christianity and the Gospel and the Bible and you know,
and I think that's why, you know, people get so
(21:21):
worked up because they try to lump and especially in
the United States, they try to lump Christians with Donald
Trump or Christians with the Republican Party. And like I
know many Christians that are Democrats, and you know, because
they just believe different things. And that's okay to believe
(21:43):
different things, and it's okay to have conversations and it's
okay to talk about stuff, but it's it's gotten so
crazy the past probably.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Six to eight years.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Where and we've had people come, you know and message
us directly on social media media and they try to
lump us in with like this group because we're Christians,
or because we're from Texas or and a lot of
the things that they say, I'm like, well, I don't
really agree with that, Like you're trying to You're trying
to You're trying to lump me into this group of
people that I don't even agree with. Yeah, you know,
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we we talk about specific topics, like you know, whenever
we had because it's topics that we have a very
close and personal relationship with. Whenever it comes to like
I mean, we're definitely very much of pro life because
we have a very deep story.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
That connects us to walking a life of having to
make decisions.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Like that, and because we've seen stuff and we've had
very intimate views into you know, the lives of the
unborn based off of the many, the many, many many
ultrasounds that we've had before having the quints, and we
got this very intimate view of them and their personality
(23:00):
before they were ever born, which shine a light and
saying and they were people before they were born. Which
there's a group of people out there that don't even
think that they're human or they're not really people until
they come out of the mom So.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
If you're going to ask that person, always get so.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And if you try to argue or you try to
like kind of tell your point of view, they just
get angry and they don't want to hear it, and
they don't want to they don't want to hear any
sort of like alternating view. But we have a very
specific perspective and a very real perspective on it in life,
which which gives us our belief.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, and yes we can read something and believe something,
but in our story, like we didn't just read something
or see something like we lived it. We got a
very up close and personal view on life before life
is born, right, and so we believe life.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Is that conception.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And it's because that is how not just something that
we believe God has said, but something that we have
experienced in our own life story and testimony of you know,
becoming pregnant with quintuplets and having so many appointments to
(24:27):
make sure that they're growing in their you know, how
they are developing and growing every other week. It was
an appointment after appointment for hours, and so we are
seeing just different things and feeling different things.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
But being able to have like a visual.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And it's almost like, you know, I'd love to like
make a documentary of like tracking something like that, because
it's not I don't think anyone could.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Really kind of did, but it got cut out, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
We had to but no, like more of like documentary. Yeah,
I feel like we need to do that, Okay, so
put that in your schedule. Twenty twenty six, documentary of
Life before Breath. That a project there, but it really did,
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you know, and especially because we had a daughter before
we had the quins, so I already walked through a
pregnancy and I'm telling you not that I had a
different perspective, but it was a different intimate understanding.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
It gave a deeper.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
View on life, you know, and then how precious life is,
how how God molds each one of us and knows
each one of us and personality before birth, before birth.
So where we say like this is what we believe,
it's because we walked it.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
It's because we saw it. It's because we felt it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, And so you know, whenever you read like a
passage in the Bible that talks about like you know
before you were born, like I knew you, I knitted
you in the womb, and you know, and all these
things like I knew you. You can't help but like
go back and think about man like our experience through
that and to see that because like that's how we felt.
(26:29):
We felt like we knew them to the point of
giving them nicknames and stuff in the womb. Yeah that
now ten years later, they're ten years those same personalities
have carried over to this day on just how they
interact and how they how they are, and those same
nicknames that we've given them in the womb have carried over.
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And it's just crazy and you can't help it. Like
go back in reference like that scripture. Sure you're just
like wow, yeah, that makes it. That makes sense to us.
And and so it gives us and it gives us
as such a different perspective that most people will never get.
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And and that formalizes our belief you know, and and
so you know, yeah, you can get frustrated or angry
because we believe this way, but like we have a
very unique and intimate view of life before conception or
life before birth, and well.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And then and then to further on that topic of
seeing life born at twenty eight weeks gestational pregnancy. So
I'm seven months pregnant and twenty eight weeks in two days,
and I had five babies. So seeing life be born
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and survive before.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
It should be it should be at.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Forty weeks you know, full term pregnancy is just another
ten estimate to our beliefs of like watching them develop,
watching them grow, watching those things like you know, in
the womb at this phase, they would be learning how
to swallow or you know, just certain certain skills and
(28:19):
refluxes that they didn't know how to do. And now
we're watching them learn these things outside of the womb.
You know, it's just it's miraculous. I mean, I think
our vision, in our view on life is just so extraordinary,
you know, and it's an extraordinary story that I really
do feel like we need to like pray about how
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to how to really make that and.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
We do, and we do get a lot of rebuttals
from people that are like, well it was the doctors,
what was we had.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Very good doctors that cared for our kids.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And we are truly grateful for the doctors and nurses
that cared for our kids. But I mean there was
even things about just how the kids fared through the
nick you fared through the birth Danielle even carrying them
that even left.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
The doctors puzzled.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, and even years later, the doctors going back to
you know, those nurses in the nick yoube that we're
keeping up with us, and then they're just dumbfounded that
this doesn't happen, that the girls were doing so well.
And you know, so there's a lot of things that
like okay, yeah, medicals.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah, the doctors will may even understand.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
The doctors may be great, but you know, there's there
was there was an X factor there that was carrying
these babies through and so I mean there was just
there's just something else there that you know, we believed
in that, you know, God showed us and we had
confidence in all through all through the pregnancy of the
(29:54):
nick you and and even beyond and yeah, and and
we you know, conveyed that confidence to the doctor that
he was just like looking at us like we're crazy
through that time and then everything panned out and he's like, hmm,
there's something different there, and even to the point of
(30:16):
like coming back to and visiting you know, the girls
years later at our house and stuff, just because he
wanted to see it and he wanted to see the
kids again and stuff like that, and because it's it
doesn't always fare that way.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I actually was just doing some research just recently for
whatever reason, I don't even know about like quintuplets and
all girls and stuff. I think if someone had asked
me a question, it made me wonder what has happened
since then? And you know, the first quintuplets were the
Dion quintuplets.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I think all.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Girls, all girl, the first all girl quintuplets. They were
born in Canada, I think in the thirties, nineteen thirties.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
In thirty four or something like that.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
They were actually they weren't just quintuplets. They were identical quintuplets.
So one egg split five times incredible. And then there
was a set in the UK and then the Buzzby quintuplets.
So since then, since the quins were born, our girls
were born. I was wondering if there's been another set
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of all girl quints and we know about them because
they were born in Texas and like Midland, Texas.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
And that story's very different than ours.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
But other than that, it hasn't happened again. And so like,
I just feel like as hard as our days might
be and as hard as it is to parent, and
as much as people might say, well you chose this,
I'm sorry, I don't know who's who says let's let's
have Adam. If I O came, he was like, I
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really want to have quintuplets.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
He says.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That says that you know how to even pray for
that until unless you know you're at that phase.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You know, it's it is funny like whenever you're telling
our story or people find out we have quintuplets and stuff,
they're like, yep, we.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
All trying to have quintuplets. Like no, we're trying for one.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Moment, who does that? Who says that, you know?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Nobody, nobody just jumps to I want to try to
have quintuplets.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, but it just it just makes me see God
as so grand and that even even with someone as
little old us he's from Louisiana with Texas and you know,
struggle to have kids before and then having Blake and like,
(32:40):
I mean, you're gonna have quintuplets, and it's like what,
you know, like no one, no one thinks about having
people to this day will say like I really want
to have twins.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I mean even our girls will say like I would
love to have a boy twin and a girl twin.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
You know, but it's like people don't.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Because because multiple for this coma.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
But people don't ask for this or pray for this
or dream of this.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I mean, it's not a normal thing.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
And so I definitely, you know, feel that it's kind
of part of our purpose.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Is like God wanting us to share.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
His story through this, his grace through this, his love
through this, his miracles through.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
This, and you know, it's it's not always easy.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
And I think what I was going to say earlier,
maybe this was something it was something I had to
tie into.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
This was when I look at.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Challenges we face and obstacles and when things are hard
versus when things are easy. I think when things are hard,
what makes them easier to accept or to go forward
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with is whenever you take yourself out of it. So
meaning when I look back and say, one of the
absolute most hardest extremous faith driven. Like life that we
lived was when I thought less about me and my
(34:29):
priority was the kids, yeah, health, the goals. Like it
wasn't about me, it was about how how like God's
brought us here. If it's up to me, I'll probably fail.
And I probably felt a couple of times with selfishness
and giving in. But because my eyes were set amongst
(34:53):
myself and my own desires and needs, I was I
didn't want to quit work, I didn't want to change kers,
I didn't want to like leave my job. All those
things just had to do because my eyes were set
amongst things outside of me. Right, And I think whenever
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we can step outside of like our own desires and
look at the desires of others and so offering grace.
And I think every parent has to walk through this, and.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
It's not easy. It's not easy.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's when we see how things bloom and how things.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Are better.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yes, I mean, and like another part of that is,
like you know, a lot of times, especially whenever we
get overwhelmed or frustrated and stuff, you kind of have
this like very narrow worldview where in a sense you
think of the war world walls around me, or like
I am. All of this hinges on me, And whenever
(35:59):
you kind of separate yourself and realize, like, it's not
about me, It's not about even if it's like work
or whatever, this project isn't solely about me. You know,
I'm working with a team, you know, I maybe a
leader or whatever. But whenever you kind of remove yourself
from that, you know, it makes things easier. You separate
(36:23):
that me mentality from things, and you know, you realize,
you know, I have a whole team around me, or
I have you know, this other aspect that is going
to help me get this job done and.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Kind I mean, and that applies in marriage too, with
you know, in confrontation and in arguments and fights and disagreements.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
It's often we have to remind ourselves.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
We are a team.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
We want in the end goal, we want the same.
We're seeing things quite differently from our own perspectives. So
let me see it as you see it so that
I can better understand. And so I mean, it's the
same thing like it applies to parenting, it applies to friendships,
to all of it, all the things.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, I mean, like applying it to you know, parenting
or your marriage and stuff like that. I mean, if
you have a completely narrow view of everything anything that
Daniel's Daniel does, you know, and I view it as
she's doing that to me, and I get really personal
about every single thing instead of.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
You know, no, she's she's not, she's not. Every one of.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Our decisions isn't directed at me. It's you know, it's
for the betterment of our family, and it's for like
the team of our family. And you know, you remove that,
you know, and you see that we're a team and
we're not just like two individual parents, like making decisions
that we feel like it's best or whatever. But you know,
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in every argument that we get in, you know, you
have to take a step back and realize, Okay, this
isn't us fighting each other. You know, we're a team
fighting this situation or this decision or whatever. And once
you pull yourself back a little bit, you're you're able
to get a little bit of different perspective and try
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to think of it from the other point of point
of view or you know, the family holistic point of view,
and things look a lot different.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Anyway, I'm pretty sure this is one wasn't what we
were going to talk about today.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
But I feel like it's been good conversation.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Hopefully it's I was just trying to get away from
Donald Trump as quick as possible.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I feel like we I feel like you did throw
out some major, like headline topics that would stir up
a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
But I do get very annoyed whenever people because you're
from Texas or because you're a Christian, anybody that's willing
to like actually sit down and actually talk about things,
you're gonna find that probably eighty percent of the things
that you talk about you're gonna find common ground on.
But nobody wants to get to the point of talking anymore.
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And that's what's so frustrating, because probably eighty a good
eighty percent, you're gonna find common ground, and you're gonna
find things that you both agree on. And I truly
believe that because I've had conversations with people that are
just willing to talk, and you know, people that have
completely polar views of you. Every single time, it's probably
(39:37):
eighty percent, oh yeah I agree with that, or yeah,
like I mostly agree with that, but there's just one
little portion of that and it's fine. Yeah, it's fine
to have an opposing view, Like, I mean, yes, there's
been things that Donald Trump or Joe Biden or whoever.
There's been things that they've done that I have agreed with,
(39:58):
but there's also a lot things that I don't agree with. Yeah,
And like you know, anytime that Donald Trump gets on
the news or whatever, I kind of cringe at what
the heck he's gonna say, because I don't like how
he carries himself and through most things. And I mean
anybody that's just very arrogant, and I just I don't know,
(40:19):
I don't like it. But and I'm not saying I
am a supporter or I don't or I'm not, because
I don't. We're family feel like we don't support a
single person or a single side of anything. Like there's
things that we agree with and don't agree with on
both sides, and we kind of stay on that line.
(40:43):
And you know, we don't necessarily like jump into one boat.
Everybody just wants to lump each other into a thing
and then not have a conversation. And and I think
that's just the wrong way because I feel like years ago,
whenever I was a kid, like you could still have
conversations with people about stuff, and nowadays you just can't
and that's wrong. I mean you get to a point
(41:05):
where like what are we doing here? And I feel
like social media has like completely ruined the way people
communicate and it's further polarized everyone where there truly is
common ground there, And I feel like people just need
to get back to having conversations and being able to
(41:28):
be free to just like voice what you believe in
and not be scared to canceled or shout it down
or whatever because you have a certain belief because there's
always common ground.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Stupid rent.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Sorry anyways, Well I guess I mean, I guess we
should wrap this episode up. My phone keeps going off
by my daughter and they're probably like, what's for dinner?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Mom?
Speaker 5 (42:01):
So hope you enjoyed today's episode.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
It was a little bit, a little bit of a
lot completely off the cuff, pretty much found.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Pick up a conversation, but I feel like it's it's
worth an episode to kind of like throw out some.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Of our We had some topics that we were kind
of discussing before the podcast and then it just went
off the rails.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
So thank you, thank you for still listening for still listening.
It's one of those it's one of those episodes.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
But we love you guys.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
And this was.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Episode forty four.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
More than reality podcast. We'll see you in the next one,
all right. We love you guys.
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