January 2, 2025 • 14 mins
Tim Burton directed "Batman Returns", the sequel to the first Batman film of the iconic franchise that came out of a comic book created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger. This sequel had an all-star cast that included Danny DeVito, Michael Keaton and Michelle Pfeiffer who played a great Catwoman. I think "Batman Returns" is an okay film by critical point of view but I sure enjoyed the hell of the it. It is fun to watch due to its entertainment value. It has action, some type of drama when it comes to local politics of a city, romance stemming between Bruce Wayne/Batman and Selina Kyle/Catwoman, and the villain. You gotta have a villain that stands out and Tim Burton's version of Penguin. The design of the Penguin is forever iconic, but how DeVito brings this type of character out. You almost want to root for him and we do actually! We are amused and intrigued as what his goal in this film beside being a mayor. It's a film that's easy to enjoy and part of the reason is not Tim Burton's vision, but the one-liners that almost every character possesses. I'd say, half the time, it works! You really have to see the film to be embraced by the corny-ness of it all. Apart from that, I do like Burton's version of a gothic, dirty Gotham City, where you never seen the sun, lights blind the viewer, and technology seems to be lost in time. I do like cinematography, Burton made great decisions of what kind of shots we should see. A lot of them feel as if they did come from a comic book page. Every shot is different, proposing its purpose. I like the use of blue in the film, especially to mimic moonlight. What's great of the film is how these actors play these characters and play them respectfully toward the screenplay. The way Burton displays the interaction of Batman and Catwoman in the action and dramatic scenes are almost a masterclass of it's own. We honestly forget that we are watching two people dressed in costume. We forget their masks and false identities and realize underneath that are hungry human beings trying fill personal voids and Burton did a great job creating that.
three out of four tokes.
#batmanreturns #timburton
three out of four tokes.
#batmanreturns #timburton
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good morning, and this is morning real. If I see it,
I review it. It's a three to four to one
hundred minute or so podcast of films that I review
of all countries, all nationalities, black and white, detect the
color from nineteen twenty two to twenty twenty five, which
we are here. Thank God. Happy New Year everybody. Anyways,
(00:24):
I wanted to talk about this film called Batman Returns.
I had not seen Batman Returns from beginning to end
since I was a little kid. Was I avoiding this film? No,
It's just you know, there was tons of films far
beyond Tim Burden's work, far beyond the DC Common Universe,
far beyond Batman period. Honestly, I've never seen this movie
(00:46):
from the beginning to the end. I think I remember
watching this film on the bootleg VHS. Imagine that a
boot leg VHS, and I remember seeing it as a kid,
and it kind of weirded me out because you see clowns,
you see a penguin man, you see Batman and Catwoman,
you see all these kinds of characters. You see freaking
(01:08):
Christopher walking with a crazy ass haircut, which to me
is of course very burden esque. Anyways, this Film is
a nineteen ninety two American superhero film directed by Tim Burden,
screenplay by Daniel Waters, Story by Daniel Waters in San
Haam based on Obviously Batman, created by Bob Kane and
(01:32):
Bill Finger and published by DC Comics. Produced by Denise
Danovi and Tim Burton. Starring Michael Keaton as Batman, Dandy
Vito as Penguin, Michelle Pfeiffer as Selina Kyle who is
also Catwoman, Christopher Walking as Max Shrek, Michael Gohd, Pat Hinel,
Michael Murphy, and more. Cinematography by Stefan Shopski, who honestly
(01:57):
I applaud this guy, Stephan Stephan did a good job Man.
Edited by Chris the Bonsden Lebinson. Music by the og
Danny Elfman, who's obviously his work stands out in almost
every film he does, or actually almost every work he does.
Production companies Warner Brothers and PolyGram Pictures Interesting Distributed by
(02:19):
Warner Brothers. This song came out in the summer of
nineteen ninety two. It's one hundred and twenty six minutes
made a lot of money in the box office, as
it should have, you know, and this film is very
plain and simple. It's about the penguin. You know, we
see the penguin. Is he a good guy or a
(02:40):
bad guy? Obviously he is up to no good based
on his upbringing, which didn't really have a lot to
begin with. I like the beginning of this film where
it really centers around as to why the penguin is
the penguin, you know, and why he wants revenge, and honestly,
a premise like that makes sense. Now, there's a lot
of things about the film that I thought was kind
(03:01):
of weird, kind of didn't make sense to me. The
number one thing about this film to me that I
do not like, well, it's not that I didn't like it.
I have a little hard time, like you know, just
getting a rap, just wrapping myself around it. Sometimes the
one liners are good, and sometimes the one liners are
just over the top. But is it because they were
(03:25):
paying tribute to the old school Adam West Batman's were
like almost every line was a zinger, even though it's
corny nine times out of ten. Honestly, some of these
zingers are really good. They make me smirk, they make
me smile, somebod they make me laugh, and obviously some
make me cringe and I enjoyed this film. I think
(03:48):
it's a nice adaption, a very gothic, dark thematic adaption
of you know, of a Batman film period. The Vito
really stands out in this film even more than Michael Keaton.
I mean, Michael Keaton's character in this film pretty good Batman.
You know, he's very humble, he doesn't really take crap
(04:11):
from nobody. Obviously he's attracted to women, especially snel Selena Kyle.
There's that little subplot where you know, he kind of
falls in love with her and she falls in love
with him. But obviously they have secrets, and as the viewer,
we're looking at him and we're like, are they gonna
hook up? Are they gonna hook up before they know
(04:33):
about each other's secrets or afterwards during I really wish
this film was rated are because we probably would have
seen that, we probably would have ingested that, but we didn't.
We got what we got now. I don't know if
the end of the video was a theater actor or
I don't know if he's done any theater work. Mind you,
I don't really do research on the films that I review.
(04:54):
There's some if I really like it, or if I
really hate it, I'll do research on it. But if
anybody can tell me if Danny de Vito did any theatrical,
you know, Broadway style work, I would say he's a
really great theater actor because he's It's not that he's
(05:16):
not over the top. The way he says his lines
and the way he moves sometimes it's very grandiose. It
kind of calls out to a Broadway type of crowd,
you know, And I enjoy every minute of it. Actually,
you know, even the even the crappy one liners, I
still like it because in some weird way, it just
makes sense. Actually, one of the reasons why I would
(05:38):
stick watching this film. And there's not a bad film.
It's not a film where like you're gonna turn it
off walk away from Like I said, you know, Bird
did an alright job. It's really the script itself that
has a lot of issues with it. Some of its dialogue,
some of it is subplotting, you know, like we don't
kind of know where this is going, kind of unwraps
(06:01):
in a weird way, and once we know what's going on,
I don't feel truly convinced that this was the way
to go, you know, like, I wish there was a
little bit more on Selena Kyle's, like not the transformation
of her becoming catwomen. I actually thought that scene was
pretty fucking cool, you know, and I'm a cat guy
and everything. I thought it was cool. But did it
(06:22):
make sense, of course not. You know, she falls out
of a I don't know. It seemed like a five
story building. He crashes to the you know, to the
snow covered concrete, and then next thing you know, you
see cats just swarming from all kinds of hidden places,
from the alleys, from trash cans in between cars and
(06:45):
all that crap, and they start the process, you know,
and it's like, you gotta find some that works. And
to Tim Burden, for as far as the fantasy genre
of it all, I guess it works well enough. You know,
you just gotta believe what you're seeing. And I believe
what I'm seeing because Selina Khlea does become almost a
(07:06):
different person in the film, and I like how her
character is very third dimensional. You know, she knows what
she's doing is not right. She knows it's wrong. She
has conflictions with like not with just men or women
or whatever, but like she's always kind of wanted to
have somebody next to her. She wanted she wanted to love. Man,
(07:28):
it kind of seems like she wanted to just love
and she's kind of desperate for it. And Max Shrek
pushing her out the window was literally like the last straw,
not literally, but it was the last straw man like
that was like ef it, that's it. And it took
Batman Slash Bruce Wayne to kind of kind of make
her change in some weird way, or at least attempt to.
(07:48):
I don't know. Nice third act. I wish it was
a little bit different as to how they would open
the third act. The cinematography is great. I kind of
wish I was on those sets man, because you really
believe that Gotham was cold, dark, dirty, filled with all
kinds of characters, corruption and not corrupted characters. And it's
(08:13):
kind of and it's funny because even as a child
watching this film, I always thought it was kind of
weird seeing Gotham sort of like not stuck in the
sixties or whatever, because the stuff that you see in
the film, it's at least at that time, was accurate
as far as like technology is concerned, as far as
(08:33):
like consumerism technology, not the technology that Batman goes. This
shit was like, you know, ahead of its time, even
like as a superhero, right, But I don't give a
fuck about that. It's just kind of weird and kind
of cool that they will keep certain elements of the
sixties and bringing some stuff from like let's say, late eighties,
(08:54):
mid eighties or whatnot and kind of blended together. You know.
I gotta give it up to the production designer. That
person did a great job working with Tim Burden making
us believe that not only is this Gotham, but this
is a Batman film. I love the costumes, even the
the Catwoman costume. I mean, come out man, that alone
(09:17):
is iconic ays itself hilarious. That it took I guess,
I don't know, a whole night to come up with
that costume, or a whole hour. I don't know, Man,
it's kind of weird. I get it. You gotta push
time to make the story keep going and going and
going to a certain peak. Right, So there's you know,
some of those things are you know that. I don't
(09:39):
wish it was a little bit better or different. I
don't know, but either way, I enjoyed this film. I
enjoyed the cinematography. Writing could be better. I don't know
if I have a favorite scene. There's a lot of
good shots in this film. I love the close up
on Selena Kyle, even when it's on cat Woman. I
(10:01):
do like the close ups. Tim Burdy knows how to
invoke emotion through the close up as well as the
white shot. But it's the close up that really kind
of touches you in a sense, you know, not only
does he doesn't do it first Lena Connells, he does
it for Batman, he does it for the Penguin, definitely
does it for Max, Shrek, Christopher Walking playing a villain,
(10:23):
not like a big, huge villain, but like, you know,
he's not a good guy. He's not a good guy,
but you gotta give it up to the way he
finesses himself, the confidence, the overconfidence that he has. You know,
that's actually somebody you kind of want to not like
rute for, but like you like him enough that Okay,
even though he's a villain, I can still you know,
(10:46):
I can still see this guy. I can see the
edginess that he has, you know, and it's a total
contrast to to Batman, Slash Bruce Wayne, and there are
similarities with Catwomen as well. I like the similarity is
that Catwoman has with Bruce Wayne Penguin. Everybody has these faults,
everybody has these secrets. I like the film in the
(11:08):
sense that it really touches upon legacy. It touches upon
can we live a life where nobody knows about her
our faults or the stuff that we just kind of
handed down to. You know, Penguin was inherited a bad
upbringing and it made him to what he was saying.
(11:28):
Goes with Batman. You know, he brought up, he was
brought up on a good way, and then something happened
to his life. Not that we're shown that, thank god,
but events like that make him to what he is.
Selena Kyle as well, you know, something tragic happened that
kind of turned her into Catwoman. So there are really
(11:50):
good things in this film, and then there are some
things that just needed to work on. You know, I
would have loved it if Tim Burton did the Bratman Forever.
He probably wouldn't have called it Batman Forever. I kind
of wish there was something I kind of wish he
had did the film, Like I wish he could have
done the third sequel or the threequel to this franchise,
(12:13):
because he really nailed it on just on the cinematography alone,
the production design alone. It makes you feel that you're
watching sort of a gothic Batman film, and all the
other new films after that obviously aren't as gothic. Some
of them. Well, I'll just say, like like the Christopher
Nolan Batman's dark to me, the best Batman's the ones
(12:37):
with Ben Affleck. There's a different vibe to that, you know,
and the Batman, which I've actually seen. I don't know
if I'm going to review it. I kind of want
to review, but you know, there's a theme to that
as well, and actually that one's actually pretty close as
far as like the not the emo nests of it all,
(12:58):
but like sort of the this to it. Either way, people,
i'd suggest you watched this Batman Batman Returns. It's not
a bad film. It needs work, obviously. Honestly, if I
have to give it on this rating, I would give
it three out of four tokes. It's really not a
(13:19):
bad film. I honestly like I think it's it's it's
an okay film. I was more inclined to give it
two and a half tokes. But my name is Ray Solerzar.
Follow me on Morniyshelle Films, IG and YouTube. Check out
my website Mornishellfilms dot ceo. The next one I'm probably
gonna review is the film called Camera Person. It's a
(13:41):
documentary film about Kristin Johnston who it's like a memoir film.
I'll say more about it on the you know, on
the review. Thank you and have a happy New Year.
Good morning, and this is morning real. If I see it,
I review it. It's a three to four to one
hundred minute or so podcast of films that I review
of all countries, all nationalities, black and white, detect the
color from nineteen twenty two to twenty twenty five, which
we are here. Thank God. Happy New Year everybody. Anyways,
(00:24):
I wanted to talk about this film called Batman Returns.
I had not seen Batman Returns from beginning to end
since I was a little kid. Was I avoiding this film? No,
It's just you know, there was tons of films far
beyond Tim Burden's work, far beyond the DC Common Universe,
far beyond Batman period. Honestly, I've never seen this movie
(00:46):
from the beginning to the end. I think I remember
watching this film on the bootleg VHS. Imagine that a
boot leg VHS, and I remember seeing it as a kid,
and it kind of weirded me out because you see clowns,
you see a penguin man, you see Batman and Catwoman,
you see all these kinds of characters. You see freaking
(01:08):
Christopher walking with a crazy ass haircut, which to me
is of course very burden esque. Anyways, this Film is
a nineteen ninety two American superhero film directed by Tim Burden,
screenplay by Daniel Waters, Story by Daniel Waters in San
Haam based on Obviously Batman, created by Bob Kane and
(01:32):
Bill Finger and published by DC Comics. Produced by Denise
Danovi and Tim Burton. Starring Michael Keaton as Batman, Dandy
Vito as Penguin, Michelle Pfeiffer as Selina Kyle who is
also Catwoman, Christopher Walking as Max Shrek, Michael Gohd, Pat Hinel,
Michael Murphy, and more. Cinematography by Stefan Shopski, who honestly
(01:57):
I applaud this guy, Stephan Stephan did a good job Man.
Edited by Chris the Bonsden Lebinson. Music by the og
Danny Elfman, who's obviously his work stands out in almost
every film he does, or actually almost every work he does.
Production companies Warner Brothers and PolyGram Pictures Interesting Distributed by
(02:19):
Warner Brothers. This song came out in the summer of
nineteen ninety two. It's one hundred and twenty six minutes
made a lot of money in the box office, as
it should have, you know, and this film is very
plain and simple. It's about the penguin. You know, we
see the penguin. Is he a good guy or a
(02:40):
bad guy? Obviously he is up to no good based
on his upbringing, which didn't really have a lot to
begin with. I like the beginning of this film where
it really centers around as to why the penguin is
the penguin, you know, and why he wants revenge, and honestly,
a premise like that makes sense. Now, there's a lot
of things about the film that I thought was kind
(03:01):
of weird, kind of didn't make sense to me. The
number one thing about this film to me that I
do not like, well, it's not that I didn't like it.
I have a little hard time, like you know, just
getting a rap, just wrapping myself around it. Sometimes the
one liners are good, and sometimes the one liners are
just over the top. But is it because they were
(03:25):
paying tribute to the old school Adam West Batman's were
like almost every line was a zinger, even though it's
corny nine times out of ten. Honestly, some of these
zingers are really good. They make me smirk, they make
me smile, somebod they make me laugh, and obviously some
make me cringe and I enjoyed this film. I think
(03:48):
it's a nice adaption, a very gothic, dark thematic adaption
of you know, of a Batman film period. The Vito
really stands out in this film even more than Michael Keaton.
I mean, Michael Keaton's character in this film pretty good Batman.
You know, he's very humble, he doesn't really take crap
(04:11):
from nobody. Obviously he's attracted to women, especially snel Selena Kyle.
There's that little subplot where you know, he kind of
falls in love with her and she falls in love
with him. But obviously they have secrets, and as the viewer,
we're looking at him and we're like, are they gonna
hook up? Are they gonna hook up before they know
(04:33):
about each other's secrets or afterwards during I really wish
this film was rated are because we probably would have
seen that, we probably would have ingested that, but we didn't.
We got what we got now. I don't know if
the end of the video was a theater actor or
I don't know if he's done any theater work. Mind you,
I don't really do research on the films that I review.
(04:54):
There's some if I really like it, or if I
really hate it, I'll do research on it. But if
anybody can tell me if Danny de Vito did any theatrical,
you know, Broadway style work, I would say he's a
really great theater actor because he's It's not that he's
(05:16):
not over the top. The way he says his lines
and the way he moves sometimes it's very grandiose. It
kind of calls out to a Broadway type of crowd,
you know, And I enjoy every minute of it. Actually,
you know, even the even the crappy one liners, I
still like it because in some weird way, it just
makes sense. Actually, one of the reasons why I would
(05:38):
stick watching this film. And there's not a bad film.
It's not a film where like you're gonna turn it
off walk away from Like I said, you know, Bird
did an alright job. It's really the script itself that
has a lot of issues with it. Some of its dialogue,
some of it is subplotting, you know, like we don't
kind of know where this is going, kind of unwraps
(06:01):
in a weird way, and once we know what's going on,
I don't feel truly convinced that this was the way
to go, you know, like, I wish there was a
little bit more on Selena Kyle's, like not the transformation
of her becoming catwomen. I actually thought that scene was
pretty fucking cool, you know, and I'm a cat guy
and everything. I thought it was cool. But did it
(06:22):
make sense, of course not. You know, she falls out
of a I don't know. It seemed like a five
story building. He crashes to the you know, to the
snow covered concrete, and then next thing you know, you
see cats just swarming from all kinds of hidden places,
from the alleys, from trash cans in between cars and
(06:45):
all that crap, and they start the process, you know,
and it's like, you gotta find some that works. And
to Tim Burden, for as far as the fantasy genre
of it all, I guess it works well enough. You know,
you just gotta believe what you're seeing. And I believe
what I'm seeing because Selina Khlea does become almost a
(07:06):
different person in the film, and I like how her
character is very third dimensional. You know, she knows what
she's doing is not right. She knows it's wrong. She
has conflictions with like not with just men or women
or whatever, but like she's always kind of wanted to
have somebody next to her. She wanted she wanted to love. Man,
(07:28):
it kind of seems like she wanted to just love
and she's kind of desperate for it. And Max Shrek
pushing her out the window was literally like the last straw,
not literally, but it was the last straw man like
that was like ef it, that's it. And it took
Batman Slash Bruce Wayne to kind of kind of make
her change in some weird way, or at least attempt to.
(07:48):
I don't know. Nice third act. I wish it was
a little bit different as to how they would open
the third act. The cinematography is great. I kind of
wish I was on those sets man, because you really
believe that Gotham was cold, dark, dirty, filled with all
kinds of characters, corruption and not corrupted characters. And it's
(08:13):
kind of and it's funny because even as a child
watching this film, I always thought it was kind of
weird seeing Gotham sort of like not stuck in the
sixties or whatever, because the stuff that you see in
the film, it's at least at that time, was accurate
as far as like technology is concerned, as far as
(08:33):
like consumerism technology, not the technology that Batman goes. This
shit was like, you know, ahead of its time, even
like as a superhero, right, But I don't give a
fuck about that. It's just kind of weird and kind
of cool that they will keep certain elements of the
sixties and bringing some stuff from like let's say, late eighties,
(08:54):
mid eighties or whatnot and kind of blended together. You know.
I gotta give it up to the production designer. That
person did a great job working with Tim Burden making
us believe that not only is this Gotham, but this
is a Batman film. I love the costumes, even the
the Catwoman costume. I mean, come out man, that alone
(09:17):
is iconic ays itself hilarious. That it took I guess,
I don't know, a whole night to come up with
that costume, or a whole hour. I don't know, Man,
it's kind of weird. I get it. You gotta push
time to make the story keep going and going and
going to a certain peak. Right, So there's you know,
some of those things are you know that. I don't
(09:39):
wish it was a little bit better or different. I
don't know, but either way, I enjoyed this film. I
enjoyed the cinematography. Writing could be better. I don't know
if I have a favorite scene. There's a lot of
good shots in this film. I love the close up
on Selena Kyle, even when it's on cat Woman. I
(10:01):
do like the close ups. Tim Burdy knows how to
invoke emotion through the close up as well as the
white shot. But it's the close up that really kind
of touches you in a sense, you know, not only
does he doesn't do it first Lena Connells, he does
it for Batman, he does it for the Penguin, definitely
does it for Max, Shrek, Christopher Walking playing a villain,
(10:23):
not like a big, huge villain, but like, you know,
he's not a good guy. He's not a good guy,
but you gotta give it up to the way he
finesses himself, the confidence, the overconfidence that he has. You know,
that's actually somebody you kind of want to not like
rute for, but like you like him enough that Okay,
even though he's a villain, I can still you know,
(10:46):
I can still see this guy. I can see the
edginess that he has, you know, and it's a total
contrast to to Batman, Slash Bruce Wayne, and there are
similarities with Catwomen as well. I like the similarity is
that Catwoman has with Bruce Wayne Penguin. Everybody has these faults,
everybody has these secrets. I like the film in the
(11:08):
sense that it really touches upon legacy. It touches upon
can we live a life where nobody knows about her
our faults or the stuff that we just kind of
handed down to. You know, Penguin was inherited a bad
upbringing and it made him to what he was saying.
(11:28):
Goes with Batman. You know, he brought up, he was
brought up on a good way, and then something happened
to his life. Not that we're shown that, thank god,
but events like that make him to what he is.
Selena Kyle as well, you know, something tragic happened that
kind of turned her into Catwoman. So there are really
(11:50):
good things in this film, and then there are some
things that just needed to work on. You know, I
would have loved it if Tim Burton did the Bratman Forever.
He probably wouldn't have called it Batman Forever. I kind
of wish there was something I kind of wish he
had did the film, Like I wish he could have
done the third sequel or the threequel to this franchise,
(12:13):
because he really nailed it on just on the cinematography alone,
the production design alone. It makes you feel that you're
watching sort of a gothic Batman film, and all the
other new films after that obviously aren't as gothic. Some
of them. Well, I'll just say, like like the Christopher
Nolan Batman's dark to me, the best Batman's the ones
(12:37):
with Ben Affleck. There's a different vibe to that, you know,
and the Batman, which I've actually seen. I don't know
if I'm going to review it. I kind of want
to review, but you know, there's a theme to that
as well, and actually that one's actually pretty close as
far as like the not the emo nests of it all,
(12:58):
but like sort of the this to it. Either way, people,
i'd suggest you watched this Batman Batman Returns. It's not
a bad film. It needs work, obviously. Honestly, if I
have to give it on this rating, I would give
it three out of four tokes. It's really not a
(13:19):
bad film. I honestly like I think it's it's it's
an okay film. I was more inclined to give it
two and a half tokes. But my name is Ray Solerzar.
Follow me on Morniyshelle Films, IG and YouTube. Check out
my website Mornishellfilms dot ceo. The next one I'm probably
gonna review is the film called Camera Person. It's a
(13:41):
documentary film about Kristin Johnston who it's like a memoir film.
I'll say more about it on the you know, on
the review. Thank you and have a happy New Year.
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