May 10, 2025 • 19 mins
XG and I review "Fat Girl" (À ma sœur!) written and directed by Catherine Breillat that was released in 2001. It's a coming-of-age film from France. The French do coming-of-age films very differently from the USA. This is a film that's meant to break the human spirit and eliminates hope. It's a film about two sisters who sort of compete and talk about "girl stuff" to keep it PG. Their family are in vacation and the older sister secretly wreaks havoc in which shatters the innocence of the little sister. It's a film that's aimed for a mature audience and it barely holds back. Just barely. XG Guerrero joins me again on this episode as we discuss what the film centers at consent, which is keeping your children on check regardless of who and cultural background. It is a slice of life of the human experience and it doesn't spoon-feed you at all. Breillat and the cast all together made a brave film about discovering yourself, the trials and tribulations that females at a young age go through. We discuss the tension that the film develops throughout the course of its story time and it's done differently than from a traditional American film. We also talk about if the film is even worth-watching to begin with and what the director was trying to say concerning the subject at hand which is something I feel is important to take notice. No rating on the review but three & a half out of four tokes.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Ray Salazar and you're listening to or watching
more in real podcast. If I see it, I review it.
It's a three to four to undred men and or
sol podcast. The films that I review from eighteen sixty
five to twenty twenty five. Now, I'm a film buff man.
I love films, and not because of like certain reasons.
(00:22):
I just love cinema. Yeah, I won't watch a Marvel film,
but like who does nowadays? Right?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Anyways, Now, I didn't hear about this film until like
I was like, I don't know, like maybe thirteen or fourteen,
and I was watching this like documentary about films that
are like empowering for like women, and films that are
made by women, and like how they showcase like women's
(00:49):
troubles right in like different different areas of the world
in England, France, Germany, America, Southern America, you know. And
I remember seeing a heard of this documentary. They were
talking about this film Fat Girl, and they didn't say
too much about it. They just said, like, hey, you
know what, there's a very controversial film because of features,
(01:09):
you know, you know, crazy sexual situations involving teenagers and
all that stuff. And I'm like what like and I
didn't know nothing about film. I didn't know nothing next nothing.
I was just like, you know, happy watching fucking spy
kids and all that bullshit. You know that was my
you know, that was my life. And then as I
got older, get him to film school and all that shit,
(01:32):
fat girl reappears in my life and I'm like, oh shit,
I forgot about this movie, Like where can I fucking
download this? But like, which Torrent could I find for this?
Couldn't find it. Then I forgot about it, and thanks
to HBO Max, I was like, you know what, let's
fucking do it. I did it, and man, what a film.
(01:54):
And then it wasn't up until like a couple of
years back where I said to X, who's my guest?
X you gotta watch this film because your toxic as fuck.
I'm not saying you're grotesque as a person, but it
seems like you would like to not say dwelve into
situations like this, but you would kind of ponder like
(02:14):
situations like these and think to yourself, Fuck, man, there's
crazier things than what I talk about. So I want
to introduce my guest Xavier corrector what's up.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
An what's up?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Thank you for making me or yeah, making me watch
this movie. Went straight to the theater, went.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
To Kidnapped you, I coursed you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What was the theater we went to.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
We went to the new Beverly Cinema that's owned by
Quentin Tarantino.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, and I guess we watched a thirty five millimeter
film or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yes, we saw a thirty five millimeter version screening of
the film Fat Girl or in French a monseur or
in literal translation to my sister.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
It's the last time I watched a movie in film
was Passionate the Christ. We were talking about that, Yeah,
we were and forever. Yeah, because I didn't know, I
knew what digital was.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But I looked. I mean you can see, like you
can literally see.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
The what would you call that the frames mister, Yeah, yeah,
as they go by.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah. So it felt very nostalgic, very old school. I
was like, okay, I feel this.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Everybody was quiet, brought this movie theater. Izone would love
this movie theater. He was in there and said, shut
the fuck up your phones on silent if you talk, dude.
They were literally it felt like a principal to like
like middle school, like, don't do nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
But even if I owned that theater, I would still
allow he's on the smoke because it's the homie dog.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Do you think they could ever be a theater that
would let you smoke?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
There was it was announced recently that I forgot what
town in California it's trying to like or oh no, no,
I think it was the Regal Cinema though, like the
CEO said, you know what, We're gonna make theaters smokable inside.
But he was talking about weed and shit, you know,
so like, fuck, imagine going to the fucking Regal Olympic
down the street and you know, watching the film and
(03:53):
smokeing eating popcorn. But Xavier. This is a two thousand
and one coming of age drama fucking writing and directed
by Catherine Brellit, who a lot of people think she's
a genius, but a lot of people think she's a
sick fuck. Maybe she's a little bit of both. Produced
by Jean Francois Le Petit, starring Anai Rabou, Roxanne Mosquito,
(04:16):
Dibero Derenzo, Arsinee Kajan, Romaine Goople and Laura Betty Yay.
Cinematography by yodogos aravante. I'm not gonna go through the
rest because they are really really hard to pronounce. But
this film made seven hundred and sixty five thousand dollars
in the box office. Not ban not ban anyway. X. Yeah,
(04:41):
the theater was quiet, The film was quiet for the
most part. But it was shocking.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It was a crazy film.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It was a crazy film where, like you said, it
starts off very happy, very like.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Or just happy, like what would you.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Call it, happy, go lucky maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And these two this family, he's on vacation having a
great time. I'm assuming France, yep. And then it's just
nonchalant band up at a fucking.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
These two sisters are just walking down like whatever road
they're walking down, and yeah, I guess so. And then
they just talk about like you know what, I'm gonna
get a guy. It's just like what, I don't know where,
like and why right? And why? But that's the thing
about films like these were, like they don't spoon feed
you shit, bro, It's like you gotta figure it out,
(05:28):
you know, and like you're trying to figure out exactly
what she's trying to do. And but like you just
get it quickly because I'm like, damn, this is a
chick who's talking about guys and getting with guys, and
you can tell she's like a teenager, right, not even
like an older teenager. We're talking like just between like
thirteen or sixteen or whatever. And it makes you feel
kind of weird. But at the same time you're like,
(05:50):
go on, and the.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Way they saw each other, oh yeah, oh they were
savages and.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You know what, Exavier, there's a scene in the film
where like they're actually talking to each other nicely, right,
like they're like just talking right, But the older sister
fuck man, Like she's a.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Bit bit she insults her and calls her fat mid
fucking dinner.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's like how you called It's like how you call
the's on fat right every chance she gets type of thing?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Is it like that after effect that rage just put
in there? Yeah, As you can tell, the film is
about two chicks. One of them's chubby, that's what it's
called fat girl, and one of them is just like
a prettier girl. But they both have a different perspective
on how they want to lose their virginity, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And it correlates to life really because like the fat girl, right,
she like wants to get with a guy who's like
a nobody, Like she doesn't care about well, she does care.
She has a preference as to like how she wants
to lose a right, but like at the same time,
it's like she doesn't give a fuck what happens, right,
So her outlook on life is like, I don't give
(06:54):
a fuck about life. But this other girl, she meets
this guy in a fucking random cafe, brings him home.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
They're making out ten five minutes into the time. Five
minutes into their meeting, they're making out, bro.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And you know he's older, he's supposed to be like
twenty three.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
She's fifteen.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, so you can you can tell that her outlook
on life is very very twisted, right, I mean both
of them are. But at the same time.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Food.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
When you see the film, you see the family dynamic
in certain scenes of the film, you can tell that
parents don't care, don't go fuck.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I mean, I don't know if you remember, they meet
and then he ends up having dinner with the parents. Yeah,
the parents are kind of okay with it because he
says he's a law student, and I would be like
yo yo yo ya, like that's my daughter.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I know where you're going with this.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
They let him have dinner, he goes home, but he
sneaks back in as cousin France.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's a different get down, dude. It's just a different
get down. And when you're looking at it, yeah, and
when you're looking at her from an American perspective, obviously
you're gonna be like, whoa, what the what the fuck?
This is culture? Apparently it is man so chek Lits
he's making some money right now in the background. Anyways, anyway,
(08:04):
shout out the chek Lit's the unofficial sponsor of this
podcast episode. Anyways, Xavier, there was a moment in the
film where you were like, oh shit, You're like the
only person who said oh shit?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Was I really the only one who? Yeah? I loved it.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I loved every second of it because I wanted this
movie to break you down in some sort of mental way,
and it did.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It was crazy. Dog.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I went home and I talked to my lady about it.
I was like, dude, this movie's wild.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
She's like, what do you mean.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I was like, it starts like a coming of age
film and it's coming up like some solid shit.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
At the end of.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It, she got what she wanted.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Unfortunately, Ah, do not say that, because that's not what
she wanted. She wanted easy, non one night stand. She
did get. She did get a one night stand. Fuck?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, is that why she didn't tell the cops. Well? See,
I like how it ends because like you really don't
know what to expect after that, like you know she's
gonna say anything. But eventually, like when you look at
it like this, the dad's gonna find out what happened, right.
You remember how he said that he wanted the older
sister to get her head examined because basically she she
got raped because like the guy was you know, he
(09:13):
was pressuring.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And he was it was not very consensual, not.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It wasn't and it's fucked.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Up ember when he was we have to remember when
he's like, I need you to demonstrate love talking to
her and then he makes her sticking in her ass
and her sister's watching.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Bro. This movie is crazy. Bro, there's like anal sex
girls watching. It's fucking it's it's but.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's art there, but it's art according to art, according
to call it art, that's what and see that's what
the discussion, Like you ask me, see a lot of
a lot of people, a lot of critics. This film
really divided audiences because it really like tells you, like,
how far can the film go? As far as situations
like that? But guess what, we didn't really see it happened, dude.
(09:58):
That film is in the Criterion collection. The Criteria collection.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
It's like, where's this girl.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It's like the Smithsonian for filmmaking, and.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Where's this girl? Is she killing it in the French
film scene?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, so the Fat Girl, the Fat Girl never made
a movie after that. Why, I don't know why. It
didn't look it looked like she did a great job.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Remember when she was making out.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
With the poll was cool that she was so funny
to those are her boyfriends and she was cheating on
them and.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
She was fucking she was and she was singing. She
was like two minutes straight. What did you think of?
So you were talking to me about that earlier, We're like,
you know what, man, Like in other films, I would
have cut that shot or get to the next shot.
They took their time trying to build tension.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
In these movies.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Like I was telling you, Ray, like the movie where there.
They're showing us the freeway for at least a minute
and a half.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And it looks nice, bro, And it's cool.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
It's it feels it feels cinematic. It's not ugly.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Take but and here you knows what I mean. And
America takes its take. Go go go. It's very instagram.
I'm very TikTok. I need your attention now. If you
lose I need to grab it. Need to grab it,
need to grab grab it. This was like, enjoy it,
enjoy the movie. Enjoy her singing. She sang for a
minute and a half. Her singing was like Tommy's.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You couldn't enjoy that ride though, because honestly, like you,
it's crazy because I don't think about these things like
right at the get Sometimes sometimes I have to watch
it another time to like really like immerse myself into
the whole thing. It's pretty cool. How Like, Okay, so
the parents know what happened, well, at least the mom
knew what happened, right, Like, the fucking guy gave this
(11:25):
check a ring and it turns out it's the mom's ring.
And at the same time she knows exactly what happened
between the two right, like, you know, they actually slept
together and all that shit. So that car ride, dude
said a lot even though they didn't say shit at all.
All the shit that that was set us from the mom.
Oh yeah, you should have thought better, you know, just
(11:45):
grilling it to.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Her right with your parent or you fucked up bad?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah was it? I forgot, but I remember just being quiet.
It was quiet, bro, It was quiet, and you know,
the silence is deafening, as they say.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Right, silence speaks more than sometimes. When I got my dui,
my dad picked me up from the police station, didn't
say nothing, didn't put new music on. I could hear
the engine, I could hear the breaks, bro, and you're
just like say something like, just say something, just driving, bro,
just kind of like hoold dog and I'm just there
(12:19):
drilling like Bro, my heart hurts, but I'm like that,
just chill, just say you love me, say something.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Not in not in fact girl dog.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah yeah it was Yeah. So I did I feel attention? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah. Good drama, good and honestly food. Like when you
think about it, it's it's a very simple ass film.
There's no explosions, there's no like, I mean, there is
a twist in the turn.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
How much would it cost you you to make that movie?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Because it looked really like you said, very very simple, house,
a beach, a couple of actors.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Fucking car, cameras, cameras.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Well, yeah, they're cheaper.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It's a podcast. You know, this is cinema serve.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know that you get them to fucking act it's
way cheaper to get it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Uh oh, you're right, yeah, how much would it cost me?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Fuck?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Man, I don't know. I think I would invest a
good like seven grand, bro, because I got I got
the equipment. I just need people can pay people like
what give me five hundred dollars a time?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
How much huh? Seven grand can make you? How much?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, apparently I don't know how much they invested in
this film, but they made over seven hundred and fifty
thousand dollars and I don't know how. I don't know
if that's even a lot as far as like a
film coming out in France and like going worldwide. But yeah, man, honestly, like,
besides the crazy ass parts, it's really an effective drama.
It does show like the importance of kind of like
(13:50):
looking after your just looking after your kids, and like
even speaking from like someone who was a teenager, you know,
especially from a if you're a boy or girl. Man Like,
consent is like very important. It's very important to know
what you're like, what your kids are doing, no matter
what age. Man, I mean after eighteen you think into
whatever the fuck they want, right, But like these years
are crucial because it affects him in the long run.
(14:12):
And look at an event like this that you never
thought would like nothing would happen out of it. Look
what can happen? Crazy?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
This this movie made me like kind of like, am
I sure I want a daughter? Like cause you the
guys at work, you know, he paid for this vacation.
Yeahs out there just lighting it up and ship on VAK.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It's only an inconvenience once they know about it, and
it's crazy. We didn't see the film after that because
I don't think that's as crazy as this one. But
it's the same director and a lot of her films
are like very there's always got to be shocking and
there's always got to be something that has to shock
the audience with this chick because she's like a very
hyper pro feminist type of filmmaker, which is why like
(14:53):
a lot of people are like, ah, I don't know,
I think this this fucking filmmaker is bad shit crazy.
But look at the statement that she made with this film,
because when you look at a film like this, it's
like you need to only see that movie wants to
kind of like if you don't have your shit together,
as you know, a certain type of person who has
been in situations similar to that kind of might want
kind of might want to wake you up in But.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
If I had a daughter, I think i'd make or
watch this movie. Watch this movie.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Okay, this movie, and let me know what you think about.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Okay. So you know there were trailers before the film, right,
trailers that came around that certain time of year.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
With the mom thirteen to watch that thirteen thirteen thirteen.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, see now it's it's see man, Tarantino, you're a
fucking genius dog because you know what to put to
like highlight certain things of a certain film and that
film have you seen it before? No, Okay, it's a
crazy film. It's not as crazy as this movie, like honestly,
like maybe like twenty five percent, like you know, level right,
(15:54):
and this movie is like one hundred. So it is
kind of crazy. The movie before that, Kids Kids is crazy, dude,
crazy as fuck. Man. Anyways, Xavier, I hope you had
a good time watching the film. I enjoyed watching the
film regardless of like what goes on. But that's the
thing about films. It's supposed to make you think. Yeah,
(16:16):
some films make you walk, but I think you woke
for the right reasons. Man. And this is this a
film that you should watch again? Or could you watch again?
I don't know, man, It's a film I think like
you have to see it maybe every now and then,
but then again, sometimes it takes only one time to
kind of like just get through it and get on
with life. There's not a lot of films that like
(16:38):
make films like that or have films like that. So
it's good to know that something like that even exists,
because if there wasn't anything like that, then fuck man,
it's like less hope for the world.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Good x How would you rate this film out of four?
Try go out of and I'm gonna go out of
four out of four.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
It's it's a solid, dude, I would want to.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
It's four out of four.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Cheek lits, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just the only
reason I don't want to say four out of four
because I wouldn't recommend it and everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I mean the four out of fours, I gotta tell
everybody about this movie. It's more of a four out
of three because it's fucking wild. Bro. I don't want
to be telling people to watch this movie.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I mean, this film went.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Exc It's gonna be a fucking shock, shell shock.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Okay. So the accolades of this film two thousand and one,
the film one one, the Manfred Sells Beggar Award at
the fifty first Berlin International Film Festival Woo woo, and
the France Cultural Award at the two thousand and one
cons Film Festival. Two of those festivals are really like
highly regarded as like you get an award from there,
like you're you know what you're doing. So apparently Catherine Bay,
(17:49):
whatever her name is is, she knows what the fuck
she's doing. Hey, but you know what, she knows how
to shoot a film.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
She does.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Like the lighting. I like the way that it was lit. Man,
Like the way that you can hear the car driving
the summer and you can feel that it's a Mercedes too.
Because there's some films that you'll fucking be driving a
bands but it'll sound like a toyota. Why why with
this film? She does it right, So shout out to
her on that one. Either way, Yeah, we're out of
four cheek lids. Is this a date movie for you?
(18:15):
It is the couples there.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You can't watch this, lady, but not on the first date. Don't.
This is like once you already hit it.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Shout out to Xaber, I hit that like bun subscribe.
He's got other great movies. We've done Broke Back Mountain.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
What else have we done?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Grizzly Man.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
We've done Grizzly Man. We've done a couple of one.
I want to do Hustle on Flow.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
We should do come on man, we should do deep Throat.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What the fuck? I've never heard a scene or her
throat right.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Check me out at Morning Shot Films, dot CEO, I
g Morny Show Films, and I got a bunch of films.
I got Flow one Best Animated Feature Film and the
recent Academy Awards beat DreamWorks and Disney at the same time.
Fox them. Thank you
This is Ray Salazar and you're listening to or watching
more in real podcast. If I see it, I review it.
It's a three to four to undred men and or
sol podcast. The films that I review from eighteen sixty
five to twenty twenty five. Now, I'm a film buff man.
I love films, and not because of like certain reasons.
(00:22):
I just love cinema. Yeah, I won't watch a Marvel film,
but like who does nowadays? Right?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Anyways, Now, I didn't hear about this film until like
I was like, I don't know, like maybe thirteen or fourteen,
and I was watching this like documentary about films that
are like empowering for like women, and films that are
made by women, and like how they showcase like women's
(00:49):
troubles right in like different different areas of the world
in England, France, Germany, America, Southern America, you know. And
I remember seeing a heard of this documentary. They were
talking about this film Fat Girl, and they didn't say
too much about it. They just said, like, hey, you
know what, there's a very controversial film because of features,
(01:09):
you know, you know, crazy sexual situations involving teenagers and
all that stuff. And I'm like what like and I
didn't know nothing about film. I didn't know nothing next nothing.
I was just like, you know, happy watching fucking spy
kids and all that bullshit. You know that was my
you know, that was my life. And then as I
got older, get him to film school and all that shit,
(01:32):
fat girl reappears in my life and I'm like, oh shit,
I forgot about this movie, Like where can I fucking
download this? But like, which Torrent could I find for this?
Couldn't find it. Then I forgot about it, and thanks
to HBO Max, I was like, you know what, let's
fucking do it. I did it, and man, what a film.
(01:54):
And then it wasn't up until like a couple of
years back where I said to X, who's my guest?
X you gotta watch this film because your toxic as fuck.
I'm not saying you're grotesque as a person, but it
seems like you would like to not say dwelve into
situations like this, but you would kind of ponder like
(02:14):
situations like these and think to yourself, Fuck, man, there's
crazier things than what I talk about. So I want
to introduce my guest Xavier corrector what's up.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
An what's up?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Thank you for making me or yeah, making me watch
this movie. Went straight to the theater, went.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
To Kidnapped you, I coursed you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What was the theater we went to.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
We went to the new Beverly Cinema that's owned by
Quentin Tarantino.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, and I guess we watched a thirty five millimeter
film or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yes, we saw a thirty five millimeter version screening of
the film Fat Girl or in French a monseur or
in literal translation to my sister.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
It's the last time I watched a movie in film
was Passionate the Christ. We were talking about that, Yeah,
we were and forever. Yeah, because I didn't know, I
knew what digital was.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But I looked. I mean you can see, like you
can literally see.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
The what would you call that the frames mister, Yeah, yeah,
as they go by.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah. So it felt very nostalgic, very old school. I
was like, okay, I feel this.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Everybody was quiet, brought this movie theater. Izone would love
this movie theater. He was in there and said, shut
the fuck up your phones on silent if you talk, dude.
They were literally it felt like a principal to like
like middle school, like, don't do nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
But even if I owned that theater, I would still
allow he's on the smoke because it's the homie dog.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Do you think they could ever be a theater that
would let you smoke?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
There was it was announced recently that I forgot what
town in California it's trying to like or oh no, no,
I think it was the Regal Cinema though, like the
CEO said, you know what, We're gonna make theaters smokable inside.
But he was talking about weed and shit, you know,
so like, fuck, imagine going to the fucking Regal Olympic
down the street and you know, watching the film and
(03:53):
smokeing eating popcorn. But Xavier. This is a two thousand
and one coming of age drama fucking writing and directed
by Catherine Brellit, who a lot of people think she's
a genius, but a lot of people think she's a
sick fuck. Maybe she's a little bit of both. Produced
by Jean Francois Le Petit, starring Anai Rabou, Roxanne Mosquito,
(04:16):
Dibero Derenzo, Arsinee Kajan, Romaine Goople and Laura Betty Yay.
Cinematography by yodogos aravante. I'm not gonna go through the
rest because they are really really hard to pronounce. But
this film made seven hundred and sixty five thousand dollars
in the box office. Not ban not ban anyway. X. Yeah,
(04:41):
the theater was quiet, The film was quiet for the
most part. But it was shocking.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It was a crazy film.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It was a crazy film where, like you said, it
starts off very happy, very like.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Or just happy, like what would you.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Call it, happy, go lucky maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And these two this family, he's on vacation having a
great time. I'm assuming France, yep. And then it's just
nonchalant band up at a fucking.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
These two sisters are just walking down like whatever road
they're walking down, and yeah, I guess so. And then
they just talk about like you know what, I'm gonna
get a guy. It's just like what, I don't know where,
like and why right? And why? But that's the thing
about films like these were, like they don't spoon feed
you shit, bro, It's like you gotta figure it out,
(05:28):
you know, and like you're trying to figure out exactly
what she's trying to do. And but like you just
get it quickly because I'm like, damn, this is a
chick who's talking about guys and getting with guys, and
you can tell she's like a teenager, right, not even
like an older teenager. We're talking like just between like
thirteen or sixteen or whatever. And it makes you feel
kind of weird. But at the same time you're like,
(05:50):
go on, and the.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Way they saw each other, oh yeah, oh they were
savages and.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You know what, Exavier, there's a scene in the film
where like they're actually talking to each other nicely, right,
like they're like just talking right, But the older sister
fuck man, Like she's a.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Bit bit she insults her and calls her fat mid
fucking dinner.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's like how you called It's like how you call
the's on fat right every chance she gets type of thing?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Is it like that after effect that rage just put
in there? Yeah, As you can tell, the film is
about two chicks. One of them's chubby, that's what it's
called fat girl, and one of them is just like
a prettier girl. But they both have a different perspective
on how they want to lose their virginity, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And it correlates to life really because like the fat girl, right,
she like wants to get with a guy who's like
a nobody, Like she doesn't care about well, she does care.
She has a preference as to like how she wants
to lose a right, but like at the same time,
it's like she doesn't give a fuck what happens, right,
So her outlook on life is like, I don't give
(06:54):
a fuck about life. But this other girl, she meets
this guy in a fucking random cafe, brings him home.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
They're making out ten five minutes into the time. Five
minutes into their meeting, they're making out, bro.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And you know he's older, he's supposed to be like
twenty three.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
She's fifteen.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, so you can you can tell that her outlook
on life is very very twisted, right, I mean both
of them are. But at the same time.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Food.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
When you see the film, you see the family dynamic
in certain scenes of the film, you can tell that
parents don't care, don't go fuck.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I mean, I don't know if you remember, they meet
and then he ends up having dinner with the parents. Yeah,
the parents are kind of okay with it because he
says he's a law student, and I would be like
yo yo yo ya, like that's my daughter.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I know where you're going with this.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
They let him have dinner, he goes home, but he
sneaks back in as cousin France.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's a different get down, dude. It's just a different
get down. And when you're looking at it, yeah, and
when you're looking at her from an American perspective, obviously
you're gonna be like, whoa, what the what the fuck?
This is culture? Apparently it is man so chek Lits
he's making some money right now in the background. Anyways, anyway,
(08:04):
shout out the chek Lit's the unofficial sponsor of this
podcast episode. Anyways, Xavier, there was a moment in the
film where you were like, oh shit, You're like the
only person who said oh shit?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Was I really the only one who? Yeah? I loved it.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I loved every second of it because I wanted this
movie to break you down in some sort of mental way,
and it did.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It was crazy. Dog.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I went home and I talked to my lady about it.
I was like, dude, this movie's wild.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
She's like, what do you mean.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I was like, it starts like a coming of age
film and it's coming up like some solid shit.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
At the end of.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It, she got what she wanted.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Unfortunately, Ah, do not say that, because that's not what
she wanted. She wanted easy, non one night stand. She
did get. She did get a one night stand. Fuck?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, is that why she didn't tell the cops. Well? See,
I like how it ends because like you really don't
know what to expect after that, like you know she's
gonna say anything. But eventually, like when you look at
it like this, the dad's gonna find out what happened, right.
You remember how he said that he wanted the older
sister to get her head examined because basically she she
got raped because like the guy was you know, he
(09:13):
was pressuring.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And he was it was not very consensual, not.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It wasn't and it's fucked.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Up ember when he was we have to remember when
he's like, I need you to demonstrate love talking to
her and then he makes her sticking in her ass
and her sister's watching.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Bro. This movie is crazy. Bro, there's like anal sex
girls watching. It's fucking it's it's but.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's art there, but it's art according to art, according
to call it art, that's what and see that's what
the discussion, Like you ask me, see a lot of
a lot of people, a lot of critics. This film
really divided audiences because it really like tells you, like,
how far can the film go? As far as situations
like that? But guess what, we didn't really see it happened, dude.
(09:58):
That film is in the Criterion collection. The Criteria collection.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
It's like, where's this girl.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It's like the Smithsonian for filmmaking, and.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Where's this girl? Is she killing it in the French
film scene?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, so the Fat Girl, the Fat Girl never made
a movie after that. Why, I don't know why. It
didn't look it looked like she did a great job.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Remember when she was making out.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
With the poll was cool that she was so funny
to those are her boyfriends and she was cheating on
them and.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
She was fucking she was and she was singing. She
was like two minutes straight. What did you think of?
So you were talking to me about that earlier, We're like,
you know what, man, Like in other films, I would
have cut that shot or get to the next shot.
They took their time trying to build tension.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
In these movies.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Like I was telling you, Ray, like the movie where there.
They're showing us the freeway for at least a minute
and a half.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And it looks nice, bro, And it's cool.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
It's it feels it feels cinematic. It's not ugly.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Take but and here you knows what I mean. And
America takes its take. Go go go. It's very instagram.
I'm very TikTok. I need your attention now. If you
lose I need to grab it. Need to grab it,
need to grab grab it. This was like, enjoy it,
enjoy the movie. Enjoy her singing. She sang for a
minute and a half. Her singing was like Tommy's.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You couldn't enjoy that ride though, because honestly, like you,
it's crazy because I don't think about these things like
right at the get Sometimes sometimes I have to watch
it another time to like really like immerse myself into
the whole thing. It's pretty cool. How Like, Okay, so
the parents know what happened, well, at least the mom
knew what happened, right, Like, the fucking guy gave this
(11:25):
check a ring and it turns out it's the mom's ring.
And at the same time she knows exactly what happened
between the two right, like, you know, they actually slept
together and all that shit. So that car ride, dude
said a lot even though they didn't say shit at all.
All the shit that that was set us from the mom.
Oh yeah, you should have thought better, you know, just
(11:45):
grilling it to.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Her right with your parent or you fucked up bad?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah was it? I forgot, but I remember just being quiet.
It was quiet, bro, It was quiet, and you know,
the silence is deafening, as they say.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Right, silence speaks more than sometimes. When I got my dui,
my dad picked me up from the police station, didn't
say nothing, didn't put new music on. I could hear
the engine, I could hear the breaks, bro, and you're
just like say something like, just say something, just driving, bro,
just kind of like hoold dog and I'm just there
(12:19):
drilling like Bro, my heart hurts, but I'm like that,
just chill, just say you love me, say something.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Not in not in fact girl dog.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah yeah it was Yeah. So I did I feel attention? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah. Good drama, good and honestly food. Like when you
think about it, it's it's a very simple ass film.
There's no explosions, there's no like, I mean, there is
a twist in the turn.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
How much would it cost you you to make that movie?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Because it looked really like you said, very very simple, house,
a beach, a couple of actors.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Fucking car, cameras, cameras.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Well, yeah, they're cheaper.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It's a podcast. You know, this is cinema serve.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know that you get them to fucking act it's
way cheaper to get it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Uh oh, you're right, yeah, how much would it cost me?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Fuck?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Man, I don't know. I think I would invest a
good like seven grand, bro, because I got I got
the equipment. I just need people can pay people like
what give me five hundred dollars a time?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
How much huh? Seven grand can make you? How much?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, apparently I don't know how much they invested in
this film, but they made over seven hundred and fifty
thousand dollars and I don't know how. I don't know
if that's even a lot as far as like a
film coming out in France and like going worldwide. But yeah, man, honestly, like,
besides the crazy ass parts, it's really an effective drama.
It does show like the importance of kind of like
(13:50):
looking after your just looking after your kids, and like
even speaking from like someone who was a teenager, you know,
especially from a if you're a boy or girl. Man Like,
consent is like very important. It's very important to know
what you're like, what your kids are doing, no matter
what age. Man, I mean after eighteen you think into
whatever the fuck they want, right, But like these years
are crucial because it affects him in the long run.
(14:12):
And look at an event like this that you never
thought would like nothing would happen out of it. Look
what can happen? Crazy?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
This this movie made me like kind of like, am
I sure I want a daughter? Like cause you the
guys at work, you know, he paid for this vacation.
Yeahs out there just lighting it up and ship on VAK.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It's only an inconvenience once they know about it, and
it's crazy. We didn't see the film after that because
I don't think that's as crazy as this one. But
it's the same director and a lot of her films
are like very there's always got to be shocking and
there's always got to be something that has to shock
the audience with this chick because she's like a very
hyper pro feminist type of filmmaker, which is why like
(14:53):
a lot of people are like, ah, I don't know,
I think this this fucking filmmaker is bad shit crazy.
But look at the statement that she made with this film,
because when you look at a film like this, it's
like you need to only see that movie wants to
kind of like if you don't have your shit together,
as you know, a certain type of person who has
been in situations similar to that kind of might want
kind of might want to wake you up in But.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
If I had a daughter, I think i'd make or
watch this movie. Watch this movie.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Okay, this movie, and let me know what you think about.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Okay. So you know there were trailers before the film, right,
trailers that came around that certain time of year.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
With the mom thirteen to watch that thirteen thirteen thirteen.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, see now it's it's see man, Tarantino, you're a
fucking genius dog because you know what to put to
like highlight certain things of a certain film and that
film have you seen it before? No, Okay, it's a
crazy film. It's not as crazy as this movie, like honestly,
like maybe like twenty five percent, like you know, level right,
(15:54):
and this movie is like one hundred. So it is
kind of crazy. The movie before that, Kids Kids is crazy, dude,
crazy as fuck. Man. Anyways, Xavier, I hope you had
a good time watching the film. I enjoyed watching the
film regardless of like what goes on. But that's the
thing about films. It's supposed to make you think. Yeah,
(16:16):
some films make you walk, but I think you woke
for the right reasons. Man. And this is this a
film that you should watch again? Or could you watch again?
I don't know, man, It's a film I think like
you have to see it maybe every now and then,
but then again, sometimes it takes only one time to
kind of like just get through it and get on
with life. There's not a lot of films that like
(16:38):
make films like that or have films like that. So
it's good to know that something like that even exists,
because if there wasn't anything like that, then fuck man,
it's like less hope for the world.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Good x How would you rate this film out of four?
Try go out of and I'm gonna go out of
four out of four.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
It's it's a solid, dude, I would want to.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
It's four out of four.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Cheek lits, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just the only
reason I don't want to say four out of four
because I wouldn't recommend it and everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I mean the four out of fours, I gotta tell
everybody about this movie. It's more of a four out
of three because it's fucking wild. Bro. I don't want
to be telling people to watch this movie.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I mean, this film went.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Exc It's gonna be a fucking shock, shell shock.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Okay. So the accolades of this film two thousand and one,
the film one one, the Manfred Sells Beggar Award at
the fifty first Berlin International Film Festival Woo woo, and
the France Cultural Award at the two thousand and one
cons Film Festival. Two of those festivals are really like
highly regarded as like you get an award from there,
like you're you know what you're doing. So apparently Catherine Bay,
(17:49):
whatever her name is is, she knows what the fuck
she's doing. Hey, but you know what, she knows how
to shoot a film.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
She does.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Like the lighting. I like the way that it was lit. Man,
Like the way that you can hear the car driving
the summer and you can feel that it's a Mercedes too.
Because there's some films that you'll fucking be driving a
bands but it'll sound like a toyota. Why why with
this film? She does it right, So shout out to
her on that one. Either way, Yeah, we're out of
four cheek lids. Is this a date movie for you?
(18:15):
It is the couples there.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You can't watch this, lady, but not on the first date. Don't.
This is like once you already hit it.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Shout out to Xaber, I hit that like bun subscribe.
He's got other great movies. We've done Broke Back Mountain.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
What else have we done?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Grizzly Man.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
We've done Grizzly Man. We've done a couple of one.
I want to do Hustle on Flow.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
We should do come on man, we should do deep Throat.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What the fuck? I've never heard a scene or her
throat right.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Check me out at Morning Shot Films, dot CEO, I
g Morny Show Films, and I got a bunch of films.
I got Flow one Best Animated Feature Film and the
recent Academy Awards beat DreamWorks and Disney at the same time.
Fox them. Thank you
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