August 12, 2025 • 43 mins
Nik Bonitto was ranked 38th in the NFL Player's Top 100 List! Coach and Raj discuss why Nik Bonitto wasn't playing at practice and how much of it is contract based.
Bo Nix is now getting mixed reviews after his weekend. Journalists are now wondering can Bo be the lng term option. Coach and Raj explain why he can!
Raj goes on an Avs tangent after a training camp update!
Bo Nix is now getting mixed reviews after his weekend. Journalists are now wondering can Bo be the lng term option. Coach and Raj explain why he can!
Raj goes on an Avs tangent after a training camp update!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Back out here live at Broncos Park for training camp
twenty twenty five on a two K Tuesday, the coach,
Mike Sanford, Alex Ryan em you guys are listening to
the Morning Sprint here on Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five.
A beautiful day as Broncos are out here in helmets
and if spiders, I don't even know if I see
spiders underneath the jerseys right now. It should be a
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light day obviously in terms of physicality as the Broncos
get ready to welcome in the Arizona Cardinals for a
joint practice session on Thursday and then preseason game number two.
As we start today, Coach, just some notes. Guys who
are absent from practice right now, tight end Nate Adkins,
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and one of the players that we heard from and
heard about in that show open there, number fifteen, Nick Benito,
not at practice today. Mike cliss to the first one,
reporting that about six or seven minutes ago on Twitter. No,
we do not see number fifteen out here today.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
No Nick Benito today did limp off after his fourth
and final quarterback pressure, and it was a minor limp.
But I think the limp might have more to do
with the fact that it is time to pay that man.
Could that be happening in real time today?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
The last time that we saw this happen during camp,
a player not be present, especially at a practice lake.
Today's right where it's gonna be mostly walk throughs, a
lot of offensive installs. Well, who wasn't there? Portland Sutton
wasn't at practice that day? Zach Allen had the same
exact thing. Wasn't at practice that morning, and then they
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showed up the next day and they were millions and
millions and millions of dollars richer. I just think the
president has been set this camp that if a player
of that ILK is stepping out, there's a very good
chance that is contract based and not just hey he
needs a day off, Hey he tweaked something, so he's
not going to be walking around with us today.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
To be fair, I think it's probably sixty percent contract
base that he's not out here, forty percent that he's
a little dinged up from the preseason game, the sixty
percent likelihood that it is contract based, Alex. I think
this is a very wise decision for the Denver Broncos
to pay him now, because I believe wholeheartedly after watching
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his back to back to back pressures of Mac Jones.
And granted it's against the second defense, so excuse me,
the second offense from the forty nine ers in a
preseason game. Nick Benito is going to command top three
edge rusher dollars a year from now, maybe even top
one after the market is reset by Trey Hendrickson t
(03:03):
J Watt semi reset the market already, am I right?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
TJ Watt's TJ Watt is the standard bearer right now
in terms of or average value a year.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Who's up is it Max Crosby? That could be up
here in the next year? Is he already?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Max Crosby signed his deal in twenty five, He's signed
through twenty twenty nine. At thirty four.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
On them, there's what other edge rusher that, Oh, it's
a Parsons, Michael Parson Parsons and then Danil Hunter. But
Hunter's you know, thirty two at this point, different situation
thirty one, maybe Nick Benito he's gonna get paid. It's
just a matter if he gets paid, paid paid or
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paid paid. I think if you do it today, you
pay pay him.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's the reason why the deal hasn't gotten done. Coach,
I firmly believe that this is not a the Broncos
don't want to pay Nick Benito yet situation. I am
completely convinced it's the Benito camp holding out trying to
see whether or not Parsons is going to reset the
market in Dallas, or if they just have to have
their hands forced and sign this extension before the year
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to guarantee that you get that long term deal. You
get that guaranteed money. God forbid, something bad happens this year,
whether it is a drop off in your play and
he turns into an eight or nine sack guy and
now you're looking at you're looking at twenty million, twenty
four million, or if he does get again, knock on
your wood, if he gets injured and doesn't play a
full season and can't live up to that billing in
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a contract year, you're not looking at thirty five to
forty million on an average basis. I think this has
been a Benito camp. We are in a position of power,
and let's just wait until Nick or Michael Parsons eventually
signs that deal at an average basis of like forty
two or forty three.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
The right move for Nick Benito and the right move
for the Denver Broncos for the reason that you just
mentioned it, Nick Benito, the fear is that you get injured.
I mean, like God forbids something actually did happen to
him at the tail end of his appearance in the
preseason game. Think about the amount of money that could
be left on the table if you don't secure a deal.
(05:14):
So it's the risk right you are playing. You are
playing with a big stack of chips in Vegas, and
you're saying, am I willing to walk away and put
these chips in my pocket and go to the cashier
and cash out right now? Which is what would it
be the case for Nick Benito and his agency? Or
am I willing to go out there and just keep
letting it ride?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
No, it would be dumb to bet on yourself again
this year after playing basically full seasons as a rookie,
as a sophomore, and as a third year player in
this league and having your best season again. I know
he wasn't the start of those first two years. But
having your best season come last year in fifteen starts
and thirteen and a half sacks. I hate to say,
like I don't think this is gonna be the case
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for Nick Benino, but there's a chants that's the best
Nick Benito season there's ever gonna be.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
There's a chance. We've seen crazy chance. There's one hundred
percent chance you get injured. There's one hundred percent. There's
always the chance, right.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Which is why you sign the deal.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Baby, You sign the deal, And for the Broncos, it's
a very wise decision to sign the deal because in
the event that you wait till next year or next offseason,
or even maybe two thirds away this through through through
this season, he's already ten sacks through twelve games, you know,
nine games. He looks like he's watching him out of
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training camp practice every day. Seeing him in those those
three snaps in a row against the forty nine ers,
he looks like a guy that's gonna actually have more
sex studio.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Isn't it funny? You have the defensive player of the year,
maybe the best defensive player in foot You know he
is right now, he's the best defensive player in football
in Pats retain the second has pat been the most
dominant player on the field in camp? No, I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's been Nick Benito, Nick Benito. It's been Nick Benito. Yeah,
we see it every every day. He just keeps showing up.
So let's have the conversation about contracts. Okay, the top
five average annual value of edge rusher contracts. Number one
TJ Watt at forty one million, Number two Miles Garrett
at forty million, Number three Daniel Hunter at thirty five
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point six million, Number four Max Crosby at thirty five
to five, and then number five. And this is what
the sweet spot that I think we need to start
talking about. Nick Bosa thirty four million, he's at number five.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
He's gonna get more than Nick Bosa. Bosa's two hurt
too often. He's getting more than Bosa.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Is he deserve to get more than Max Crosby, who's
thirty five to five?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
No, I agree with you. No.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
And I see Cole here and thinks that he deserves
more than Max Krasse.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
He's not a better pass rusher than Max Crosby.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
He hasn't proven it for the longevity of his career
like Max Crosby has. So you make Nick Benito the
fifth highest paid edge rusher in the National Football League,
and the contract should be thirty.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Four to five to thirty five to two. But every
single of there's a difference between all of those contracts
and Nick Benito. Every single one of those players signed
their most recent contract that puts them into the top
five of average contracts by ed rushers in the NFL.
All of those guys signed that contract outside of Nick
Bosa much older than where Nick Benito is right now.
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Watt signed his extension at thirty, Garrett signed his extension
at twenty nine, daneil Hunter at thirty, Max Crosby at
twenty five. You have to find another twenty five year
old at number five, and that is Nick Bosa. What
was Max Crosby's. Max Crosby signed his deal at twenty
seven years old last offseason. It's a three year extension
at thirty five and a half million dollars. There's a
chance because of how young he is, right he's two
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years younger than Max when he signed that extension, that
he makes more than Max just because of how young
he is and how the cap continues to rise. Yeah,
Now do I think Do I think the player is
worth more than Max Crosby at this point in his career. No,
is the ceiling just as high Shirt. Sure, So if
you told me he sits in at thirty six, thirty seven,
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thirty eight, I'm happy with that. If that's the deal.
That Like, if he actually is working on signing a
contract right now and he's not just sitting out today
because of a tweeked X, Y or Z, and he
walks out and it's thirty eight million dollars a year
over the course of four seasons, I'm ecstatic.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm for sure, for sure, get the deal done, Denver,
Get the deal done.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Nick. What's a successful season for Nick Benito? If he
doesn't sign the season this year or the extension this year,
I'd put the number at fifteen fifteen sacks.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Fifteen sacks he's going to command big money because he
did thirteen, he would be thirteen and a half backed
up by Does it change it greater than fifteen sacks?
Does that number change for you? If he signs the
extension today.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Let's say he becomes a top three paid pass rusher
in the game. This afternoon. He's at thirty eight million dollars.
He's signed through the year, you know, twenty thirty maybe
even twenty thirty one. At thirty eight million per fifteen sacks.
It doesn't change for you that And that's what he's
capable of not do.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Not only do I desire and put a number for
him to achieve at that would be an appropriate number.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I just look at the arrow on Nick Benito Raj
That arrow just.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Continues to go up and up and up. And he's
healthy and he's fresh, and he's young. Hopefully he's healthy.
I mean, I want to put that into the universe.
So there's the knock on wood on our on our
composite table that we have out here.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I literally have no wood out here around.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, it's tough, tough place to find wood. That's what
I would put as the number to make it a
generally speaking, a massive success.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
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No Nick Benito at practice, no kroll out at practice.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Did we see anything of Lucas Croll outside of being
wide open in the end zone?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Dude, we didn't talk about that touchdown pass yesterday. We
went through almost every play in the first half of
that game, every play of notes in the first half
of that game.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Of the starters and offensively and defensively, that's.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
The most wide open I've seen anyone in the end
zone in length. So what three years for the Bronx.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So what happened right there was this was a bunch
set and this is the stidem to Croll.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Touch Stidem to Croll, so it's a bunch set.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And instead of playing just like either a man coverage
or a pure zone coverage, the forty nine ers played
essentially like a version of in and out, which means,
if this guy goes in, I take him. If he
goes out, then the other other player takes him like
a safety, and the safety and corner both took the inn.
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Therefore there was nobody to take the out and the
corner route was wide open. So just you know, second
third string, maybe even four string defensive backs for the
forty nine ers and just seeing normal breakdowns. So yeah,
it was not had nothing to do with a great route.
It was a great concept. It's a great concept to
be in and out coverage, which means that you have
to you have to communicate in real time as people
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pass from you know. So it just the premise is
that all patterns have x amount of peace people they're
gonna break out, and why amount of people they're gonna
break in?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Therefore you're gonna account for it. They were set up
in amazing territory. Right there was the read interception that
put them on the San Francisco forty. You got back
to back good runs from Tyler Bday McLaughlin gets you
to the twenty five, you get an R. J. Harvey
first yard run when he bounces out, or first down
run when he bounce into the A side like you had.
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You were marching down very easily against a tired second third,
if not fourth stringers at the end of that first
half right for San Francisco. So I'm not I'm not saying,
like Lucas kroll is, is anything to be like super
excited about in terms of a red zone threat this year?
But is there anything to read into how the offense
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clicked under Jarrett stod him and it didn't under b Nicks. No, uh,
I feel like bos pressing a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I do think that my little theory after I went
back and rewatched the film about Robert Salah employing several
blitz looks that are maybe outside of the generalman's handshake
of what a preseason should look like, I think those
were reserved for Bonix because he knew that bo Nix
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is Sean's guy. I think once you got to to
Jared Stidham and going into Sam Ellinger.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
You saw way more just vanilla.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Your day one installation, base coverage, base looks, and I
think that that what happened probably for Stitty would have
happened for bo had he gotten those looks. That's how
that's how I view it, because you can't. You could
be listening right now and say, you know what bo
Nix has got it. He's a he's a starting quarterback
in the National Football League. He's gotta be able to
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make adjustments to deal with those types of pressure looks.
The answer to that is you game plan for that
week for those pressure looks that are on film or
historically film. You don't have a chance to quote game
plan when you're playing a joint practice two days before
a highly competitive joint practice that is not a normal
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game week, two days before normal game week. Game day
is basically a walkthrough, and then it's a pure walk
through the next day where.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You're working on all those various looks.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So bo Nix and his postgame press conference was right
in saying, I'm not gonna concern myself too much with it.
Preseason ends up being more about reacting and less about
game planning and executing a plan against all of the
particular looks.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
You just have to take the looks as they come.
The Athletics NFL staff came out with their quarterback tier
rankings yesterday. Bow Nicks slots in in tier number three,
alongside the likes of Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers, Tua, Trevor Lawrence,
Gino Smith, Sam Darnold, Drake May, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young,
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and Kirk Cousins. That is your Tier three quarterbacks, ranked
fifteen through twenty five. Bo sits at number twenty, tied
with Sam Darnold, ahead of May, but behind Lawrence and
Geno Smith. This tier again, according to the Athletic, a
Tier three quarterback is a legitimate starter, but needs a
heavier run game and or defensive component to win football games.
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A lower volume or lower volume drop back passing offense
suits him best.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I agree with the ranking today, meaning there's only one
year of data. The Broncos felt like they were as
good as their defense was last year in games. If
their defense was able to stemy opponents, they were going
to probably win that game. If their defense was leaky
like they were against the Bengals, frankly at times they
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were against the Browns. Luckily, they also scored on defense
as well twice that the Broncos offense outside. I thought
Bo really performed in the Bronco the Bronco Brown game
in terms of executing at a high level, becoming an
explosive offense.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I think he did some things against Cincinnati to.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Stay to stay score for score with the Bengals, but
couldn't get it done at the end of the day.
And that's where you're at right now. Where do I
think Bo's going to be postseason? Even after the preseason
game that wasn't great. I think Bo's gonna end up
being in the top fourteen category without question.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That top fourteen category. They have it as your tier two.
It's between quarterbacks number six and number fourteen. It starts
with Jaden Daniels, your reigning rookie of the Year. It
goes to Justin Herbert, who continues to be he continues
to be ranked off of the physical tools.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That but let's not forget. Do you remember Justin Herbert
last season coming to empower field I do and not
missing any throw IoT. I also remember what they did
in the playoffs? Agreed, but do you remember what the
Broncos did in the playoffs. That's fine, but that's that's
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the reality.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Of where you sit today.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Both both quarterbacks, but justin Herbert looked far superior in
their head to head matchup, and in that particular.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Game, Jared Goff ranked at number eight behind Herbert. CJ.
Stroud and Jalen Hurts tied at number nine. That's a
slap in the face of the Super.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Bowl winning quarterba qu I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Eleven through fourteen, Baker Mayfield, Dak Prescott, Jordan Love, Brock Purty.
That is your list of quarterbacks again, this is the
Athletics quarterback tiers ranking that he would have to jump
in and those become his contemporary.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
My prediction is that Bonix comes out of this season
as a top fourteen quarterback in the National Football I'm
not gonna go top ten. Not there because top ten
would require you're better than some of these guys. Jalen heard, CJ. Stroud,
Jared Goff keep going down Baker Mayfield and I'd say
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he has the ability to bypass Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And Jordan Love. Jordan Love.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I mean that was bad. They had a bad first
preseason game. Receivers just can't catch the ball in Green
Bay for some reason. Jordan was one for five and
I think he had four documented drops. Like their offense
is got has some issues. They have some dynamic firepower
that just isn't coming. It has not panned out. I
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think Bow ends up. I want to see Bo be
better than brock Purty coming out of this year, and
that's my prediction.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
If Bo isn't better than brock Purty, there's a there's
a serious issue. If Bo isn't better than brock Purty,
you're not winning a Super Bowl a bow knicks and therefore.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It will be you think after this year, because I
mean brock Purty is going this will be what year
four of brock Purty is as I mean, I guess
he didn't start the season three years ago as the starter,
became the starter as a year progressed. He's been to
a Super Bowl, hasn't won it. He's been to one,
hasn't won it. He also just got paid paid second contract.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And look at what's happened with the San Francisco defense
as a result. You're right, Talla, we're looking at it.
We're looking at him live from training camp. Deebo Samuel
is no longer on that team right there. There are
very serious issues within San Francisco, like I think there
is a very there is a much greater chance that
Kyle Shanahan doesn't have a job by the end of
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this season than San Francisco makes another run in an
NBC championship.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
The Savannah Bananas just walked by us, the firefighters and
the bananas, and I looked at him, gave him the
evil eye and said, I'm not really interested in your product.
Nonverbal communication. Didn't say it, but I'm not interested in
their product. So I don't want him on his guests,
our listeners. You guys good with that. I don't want
to TikTok dance to break out out here at training camp.
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It's football time, man, it's not theater aka fake baseball.
I digress.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Scottie Hastings was wearing a cut off savana banana shirt yesterday.
Huh did you have that conversation with Scotty? I didn't
even notice it. Scotty went, he had a good time. Okay,
not a Savannah in bananas, Guay, what was the question
I was talking? Actually, I don't even remember what I
was talking about. You've completely detailed me, coach. I appreciate that.
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The other thing I was seeing on on ESPN they
had their future team rankings, the Broncos slotting in at
number eight in terms of their their overall outlook three
four or five years into the future, and one of
the big hits that they had against the Broncos was, well,
bow Nicks wasn't as good as you think he was
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at the end of the season because he was utilizing
his feet too much and those were starting skewing his
offensive numbers. And the bold prediction that they come out
with in this one Nicks will lose his starting job
during the twenty twenty seven season, which will be his
last as a Bronco. And that actually reminds me of
what I was talking about before you derailed with this
span of bananas thing. Yeah, Bo's got to be better
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than Bronck in order to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Oh yes, oh yes, to win a Super Bowl. And
that's that's the goal. That's what the Pentner Group has
paid Sean Payton handsomely to do.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Dude, If he's not better than Brock, the bull prediction
is true, Does it have to be after this season? No,
that's that was what I would say.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
No, I think a very successful year for Bonicks to
keep the arrow trending towards Super Bowl champion. You'd overtake
brock Party this year. Now, is it a failure if
you don't. No, you're still still part of your growth.
But you will be not only ahead of schedule, you
will be in a position where the Denver Broncos don't
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just get to the point of feeling comfortable talking about
the Super Bowl, where it's it's nearly an expectation that
they're in that game.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Changed my game. I have not changed my goalposts with
the Broncos this year. My goalposts are compete seriously for
the AFC West. You don't have to win it, but
you should be in the conversation within the last two
to three weeks of the season. Right. If you find
a way to be within a game in the last
three weeks and you kind of have it within your
own hands, you win a couple and you win the division,
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I'm happy with it. If it doesn't happen, way she
goes right, you do have to win a playoff game
this year in order for me to call it to success.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
That is true must, and I think your best path
forward to winning a playoff game this year is what
I kind of kind of go back to is the
most important thing for the Denver Broncos. In Sean Payton's
real second year as the head coach. He had this
his third year, we know that, but real second year
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with his quarterback, his roster, his culture, You've got to
take you gotta take over as as at least AFC
West number two team. You gotta get better. You gotta
be better than the Chargers after this year, and that
was the biggest disappointment for me. First year head coach
Jim Harbaugh sweeps the series against second year head coach
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Sean Payton Chargers versus Broncos.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That happens again this year. This year's a failure top
to hold on top to bottom last year, though, I
don't think you can look at playing the Chargers last
year and go complete failure. You're not on the same
level of them going into this season. Last year, the
Chargers had a better roster than you. Top to bottom.
You had a rookie quarterback that was the sixth guy
selected at his position in the first round over the
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first twelve picks.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
The Chargers could also, I mean, you could argue from
a roster perspective that they might have been the most
efficient skill player group in Pro football surts of wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Looking at last year, the rosters for both teams were
vastly different. Vastly different.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Who had a better defensive roster all things at the
end of the season, the Chargers or the Broncos have
a better defensive roster Denver at the end of this
preseason note, you would have said Chargers for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
The Chargers defense was filthy.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
They ended up top five in just about every statistical
category as well. Jim Harbaugh and his ability to pound
the football, run the rock man.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
That still scares me because that's a way that.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
You win divisions or win games against divisional rivals.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
There are competitives. All He's got a rookie doing it
this year, and then do another guy with like one eye.
But what's going on with Najee Harris?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Did he play? Has he played yet? In training camp?
I haven't even looked does he Does he have any No.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Peter, We asked Peter Schaeffer that a few days ago,
and Peter went, it doesn't look good with It's not
not ideal. So you've got a rookie and a guy
who injured himself in a firework accident. Are you really
are you confident that Harbaugh can pound the rock this
year as much as he did last season?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yes, yes, because it's a it's an identity Omarion Hampton's.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Gonna be as I think he's gonna be good. I
still stand here, aren't sold on him.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I think he's even a good reason he's gonna be
good is he's gonna get so many at bats running
the football, and he's one of the one of the
few guys is gonna benefit from a head coach and
an offensive coordinator in Greg Roman that will give him
the opportunity to fully get lathered up and get into
a rhythm and into a groove. Will Sean do that
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during the regular season? Kind of did it? It was
kind of sweet. He kind of did in the preseason.
One of the better things that happened offensively for the
Denver bronco.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
He gave r J. Harvey ten Sorry it was seven
touches on the ground and another two targets with one
reception through the air.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
And he did the same thing for I mean, Watson
touched it, but they touched it three times in a row.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I don't know. Jaliel had how many touches with like
three or four. It wasn't much.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It wasn't nearly as much as the other guys, but
that was that was good to see. But can he
do it when the season starts, because I think that
who's whoever wins the battle of the of running the
football and the turnover battle between the Chargers and thes
is gonna ultimately win that series. It would be a
success for me to split with Harball.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It would be a success. You and I have had
this conversation. I think it's very, very possible that the
entire AFC West splits down the middle totally. I mean,
the Raiders, you can say that they're a dumpster fire.
They have a terrible roster.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
They do have a bunch of no names outside of
Drock Bowers, outside of Geno Smith, outside of Max Crosby
and Ashton Genty.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
The rest of the roster. I was watching the preseason,
ye who are you? Who are you?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I don't like I coached football with your contemporaries, and
I don't know any of you, like got Marien Hurt
who is It's a no name roster, but they're still
coached by a one of the better coaches over the
last twenty five years in pro football and college football
for that matter. They're gonna run the football. They're gonna
(27:52):
be built to stop the run. Geno Smith can always
catch a hot hand problem with him as he does
throw the ball to the other team, he does turn
the ball over, he does create negative plays and against
his defense. If they get three takeaways against the Raiders,
the Broncos create three takeaways, you're gonna sweep the Raiders.
But if you don't, right, it's gonna feel different going
(28:13):
into Allegiance this year than it did last year.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I was at that game.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It felt inevitable, like this team is a joke. This
franchise today is a joke. It got a lot more
serious with Pete Carroll, Ashton genty year or two of
Brock Bauers and Frankly as as much as a guy
like Geno Smith feels a little bit kind of like
a ploy, like it doesn't feel real, he's still good
enough to scare you, whereas that was not the case
(28:40):
last year with Gardner Minshew and an Aidan o'conma.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
You mentioned something about Sean Payton in his coaching style
when it comes to the running game, and it comes
to his running backs, and that is trusting the running
game and trusting the players enough to give them some run,
to give them a little bit of rope. There's a
really interesting pair parallel that I want to draw it
to the Colorado Avalanche and Jared Benner. You don't think
of Sean Payton and Jared Bednar as the same type
(29:06):
of coach when it comes to running backs for the
Broncos and when it comes to younger players for the Avs.
I think they're one and the same. We'll talk about
it next. Back out here Live at Broncos part powered
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in helmets and just spiders today. So light day at practice,
a lot of install that we're expecting before we get
into the similarities between Sean Payton and Jared Bednar that
I've noticed when it comes to committing to the running
game and committing to that room and Jared Bednar not
necessarily committing to his younger players. What have you seen
so far in front of you today? Coach.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I've seen a little bit of pace period, which is
like they're throwing screens and it's a one play period
and then the entire offensive unit is spring to the
other field. There feels like there's been an awakened sense
of urgency for this football team. Even some of the
practice structure. There's been more running around, there's been more
(30:12):
drill to drill and I'll be on and there's louder base,
there's louder music, like you mentioned it. Sometimes coaches make
those changes, Hey, we need to crank this thing up.
Get the songs need to be louder, and they need
to be better because our energy has sucked and it
showed up on Saturday against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's such a football thing to have music blaring at practice.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
It's so weird because it used to not be a
football thing. That was a that was probably a two
thousand and I'd say two thousand and about eleven twenty
twelve is when people started blowing music at practice. And
you know what, you know it started it tempo offenses
because you no longer had communication. It was all temp
(30:57):
like fast tempo. So you want this soundtrack to set
the energy for fast tempo. So it was like scrillicks,
like a lot of a lot of E d M,
a lot of uh, you know, those types of music
to set what what the tempo of practice was. But
then it also, uh, it had a little bit to
do with like we don't need to communicate anymore. We're
just gonna run as many plays at practice as humanly
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possible and then we'll just watch the film.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
When we watch the film. Is this another thing that
started in college and then actually high school? Okay, so
I was recruiting.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I was recruiting at Lake Travis High School in Austin, Texas,
just outside of the actual Lake of Lake Travis, beautiful place,
beautiful high school football program, one of the best in
the state. I go to a practice and I was
it was like six in the morning. I'd never heard
EDM music at a football practice at especially six in
the morning. I mean, they were buh lasting it and
(31:50):
the tempo and energy of practice was off the charts,
and I'm like, coach, this is awesome. I wish we
did this at Stanford. And I brought the idea back
to David Shaw, who's not exactly the most emotionally charged
individual I've ever been around, very much stoic, very stoic.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
He looked at me like, I'm like, I'm about to
fire you. Yeah, he's he's.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
He looked at me as if I was like, are
you trying to change the way we football? You're not
gonna change the way we football. Never say that again.
We stand around a lot and talk a lot, and
there's no energy at our two hours and fifty minute practice.
We do football like the Stanford libraries, or we do
football exactly. I think Toby Gerhart wants to listen to Cruella. Yes,
(32:32):
So that that's a little bit about just the kind
of the integration and music in a football practice. I
will say, Man, Roger, we were talking about how energy
even our radio shows energy when we're out here at practice.
The last couple of days has been the last couple
days we've been able to be out here, which was
last Monday and Tuesday, a little bit at the end
(32:54):
of that six day grind of Monday through Friday. Would
you agree also that the energy out here had dipped
a bit? Oh, certainly like a lot, a lot. Well,
there's a reason why those practices went so long. Do
you also agree that since the music started blaring, since
we've seen the tempo of practice pick up significantly since
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last Tuesday, that our energy is also mirroring their energy.
Those Monty Ball jerseys, Yeah, I just had a little
Monty Ball being worn by Savannah Bananas.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
They those guys gotta be from Wisconsin. There's no reason
why you should be rocking a Monty Ball jersey yet.
Jerseys you can possibly have with the Bronco we got.
We did get a bone next jersey purchase what you
You can't be rocking a Monty Ball jersey, can't do it.
(33:52):
They were, they were authentic jerseys called you. Other Broncos
roster news of they have signed wide receiver eighty Perry,
formerly interesting signee the New Orleans Saints. Okay, so at
Perry is.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
A player that was drafted in twenty twenty two out
of Wake Forest, so not not a player that was
there during the Sean Payton era of the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
But he was there with.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Darren Rizzy, who clearly is looking for more special teams juice.
But you can look out here in at Perry, number
eighty seven, just another long angular receiver. I mean, if
you look at him standing next to Cortland, Sutton, Devon Vley,
Troy Franklin, and our guy Joaquin Davis. You're like, yeah,
there there seems to be like Sean Payton has a type.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, he's six foot five two oh seven.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yeah, Raj, Like when you were in college, were you
the kind of guy that your friends would be like.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Raj has a type? Yeah, okay, I married my type.
Yeah that's cool, Good for you. I was kind of
like a all over the place short coeper nuts baby.
So I went from I went from a I got
one stuck to my head for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
My freshman year maybe mom my freshman year in college,
I had a six foot four girlfriend that was a
starter on the basketball team. My next girlfriend a five
foot three gymnast that was a type.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Coach, not a type. Yeah, just you know, just keep it,
keep it, you know, keep I do. Now I have
a type. Her name's Amory. I was gonna say my type.
You might want to amend that. It's been my type
for twenty four years now.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
So going back to the type that Sean Payton has
at Perry being an interesting player out of Wake Forest
at the combine, he measured in nearly nearly six foot four,
just a shade under six feet four, but ran a
four four seven forty yard dash.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Tons of Monty Ball jersey's coming here? Three three Monty
Ball jerseys worn by the Savannah Banana dudes. You know why?
Probably the Broncos story. Oh, crapo, crapo, crap Do we
have any jerseys?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
These guys they've been they're like been trying to get
rid of these game authentics, and they're like, Oh, the
Savannah ban As are here.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
We gotta give him something. We gotta give something. Got
him something for free? Oh we got some malls? I
think I like I have one of those for the
for the Nuggets. I've got like a sign is it
Monte Morris. I've gotta sign Montey Morris jersey from like
years ago. I'm not gonna do anything with it. It's
just sitting in the house collecting. Dave mars is a
pretty good Uh, wasn't he pretty good? He's a solid
(36:25):
player Warrior too. Did he play for the Warriors. He's
bounced around. Yeah, yeah, he's a solid player for the Nuggets.
I enjoyed him. I did. Uh. You mentioned you mentioned
Sean Payton not committing to the run game, and uh
will he do it much like Horror Baugh has uh
in Los Angeles with the Chargers, And I couldn't help
(36:47):
but think Jared Bednar has to do the same thing
with the Avalanche this year because of the lack of
let's be honest, the lack of skill and the lack
of scoring in the bottom six that they have coming
into this year. I've looked at the line combinations. I've
asked to see if they can trade another player that
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is in their bottom four in defense, to see if
you can bring in some better players in your middle
six with the forwards, and you might not be able to. Like,
have they kicked the tires on Sam Girard this offseason
with other teams, I would think they have. And there's
a reason why he's still in Colorado and he's skating
with Keaton Middleton and skating with Brent Burns over the
last few days. I just don't know if the market
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was there for a guy like Sam Gerard, who would
have been had would have had to have been the
player to move on from in order to bring in
a player of substance for the forwards in the middle
or the bottom six. They signed Joel k v Ront.
They have to find a young player or two or
three and lean on them early on in the season.
Where I see Bednar he gets a little bit of
(37:51):
success with guys. You know, you see the Prishapov and
he looks okay, or the ivan Ivans of the world,
and they look okay, and they don't get extended looks,
extended run. They automatically just go, You'll play a couple
of games. If you're good enough for us, we'll send
you back down and we'll use you in spots. I
think at the beginning of the season, much like Sean
Payton has to do with his running back room, Jared
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Bednar has to commit to running or running the football,
has to commit to commit to his young players in
the bottom six, and if that means you're gonna lose
a couple of games early on the season, you have
to deal with it. Sean Payton has to do the
same thing with his running back So tell me who.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Who would be some of the I guess down the
road young players that could end up commanding significant ice
time in NHL games. Are these are these players that
finished out at Eagles? Are they in the system? Are
these guys that we are all very familiar with as
AVS fans.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
No, they're gonna be players that you really aren't familiar
with because of how thin their their farm system has
become over the past few years by trading away players
and trading away picks to try and run a championships.
And obviously you got one of those back in twenty
twenty two, but it's been diminishing returns ever since. The
guys that you're gonna have to look out for this season,
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I think Gavin Brindley, who comes across in the deal
with Columbus, who is a smaller player albeit has first
and second round pedigree to him. He's small, but he's
defensively sound, he skates really well. You have to give
him a little bit of rope. You have to look
at finding a way to get a player like Mikhale
Guliyayev on the back and over from the Continental League
(39:31):
as soon as maybe at the end of this season,
right Like I know Ili Nbokov is gonna come back
over from the KHL after his season's over. I want
them to do the same with Guliaev. Could you look
at a Taylor mccark, like a big body forward type
of player that could get a couple of minutes. Those
are the type of players. It's you're gonna see the
the a Chan, You're gonna see the the Steinberg's get
(39:52):
some minutes, but you have to commit to playing them.
None of those names that I just mentioned, outside of
Gavin Brindley in and Mikhail Julie should excite you. As
an Avalanche speak.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Speaking of very young players in the AVS, I got
to spend about an hour last night with somebody who's
not young and is an ave. Last night at orientation
for transfer students, I got a chance to see none
other than Brent Burns.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Is he wearing shoes? Uh, he was wearing shoes. Their
flip flops did not.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
He was not wearing his teeth And honestly, having spent
time around professional athletes, arguably one of the most genuine,
awesome human beings I've ever seems like in my life,
that guy is awesome, dude. He he has so much
positive energy. He'd be a great friend of the program.
(40:49):
At some point we gotta becoming we gotta get a
little Brent Burns on the area. That guy's got juice.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Man. He's a player that I think is going to
transform how this defensive unit plays. I think he is
his lan is everything at six foot five and north
to two hundred pounds like he again, he's six' five
and like two thirty. Eight he is. Massive is he a?
Bruiser not, necessarily but he doesn't have to. Be what
he brings to the team off of the ice is
what you're gonna miss If Eric johnson isn't on this.
(41:15):
Team AND i THINK ej is gonna get a contract
sent his. WAY i know all those guys are out
there and uh in The Amalfi coast enjoying their time
With nathan. McKinnon not all of, them but a. Handful
Eric johnson is among. Them he has to take over
the mantle of old guy on the team that is
all about the. Vibes, yeah and he is just energy
(41:35):
in and of.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Itself he's gonna be a great kind of yen to
maybe the overly serious nature Of nathan. McKinnon, yan and
that's what he, is like HE'S i don't, KNOW, Raj,
Like i'm a guy that's would you? Agree WHEN i
come into a, room most times it's kind of like
chaos and loud and obdoc like, yeah, Yeah i'll give you,
that and and and When i'm not, there you notice.
(41:58):
It maybe that's WHAT i think That Brent burns is
gonna be for THIS avs locker. ROOM i had so
much fun talking to. Him he's in tremendous. Shape tremendous.
Shape he doesn't look like a guy that's carrying around Fifteen, well,
really twenty years of professional?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Hockey this?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Is this?
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Is is this his twenty fifth year of professional hockey
between you, know low between like major Junior, yeah if
you add in his major junior, seasons, yeah twenty fifth year.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Of, hockey that's. Insane i'll say this about.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Him he had a chance to come out and watch
me coach football practice one of the.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
DAYS i didn't know he was out. There he.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Was his mind was blown by, how, like how.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Does football operate like?
Speaker 3 (42:38):
This because He's, Canadian he's, LIKE i don't understand how
they know all these?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Plays how do they know where to?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Go how are there one hundred and thirty five people
on a field at one time and they all know
what they're.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Doing it was really cool to talk to him about.
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
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A beautiful day as Broncos are out here in helmets
and if spiders, I don't even know if I see
spiders underneath the jerseys right now. It should be a
(00:37):
light day obviously in terms of physicality as the Broncos
get ready to welcome in the Arizona Cardinals for a
joint practice session on Thursday and then preseason game number two.
As we start today, Coach, just some notes. Guys who
are absent from practice right now, tight end Nate Adkins,
(00:57):
and one of the players that we heard from and
heard about in that show open there, number fifteen, Nick Benito,
not at practice today. Mike cliss to the first one,
reporting that about six or seven minutes ago on Twitter. No,
we do not see number fifteen out here today.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
No Nick Benito today did limp off after his fourth
and final quarterback pressure, and it was a minor limp.
But I think the limp might have more to do
with the fact that it is time to pay that man.
Could that be happening in real time today?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
The last time that we saw this happen during camp,
a player not be present, especially at a practice lake.
Today's right where it's gonna be mostly walk throughs, a
lot of offensive installs. Well, who wasn't there? Portland Sutton
wasn't at practice that day? Zach Allen had the same
exact thing. Wasn't at practice that morning, and then they
(01:58):
showed up the next day and they were millions and
millions and millions of dollars richer. I just think the
president has been set this camp that if a player
of that ILK is stepping out, there's a very good
chance that is contract based and not just hey he
needs a day off, Hey he tweaked something, so he's
not going to be walking around with us today.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
To be fair, I think it's probably sixty percent contract
base that he's not out here, forty percent that he's
a little dinged up from the preseason game, the sixty
percent likelihood that it is contract based, Alex. I think
this is a very wise decision for the Denver Broncos
to pay him now, because I believe wholeheartedly after watching
(02:40):
his back to back to back pressures of Mac Jones.
And granted it's against the second defense, so excuse me,
the second offense from the forty nine ers in a
preseason game. Nick Benito is going to command top three
edge rusher dollars a year from now, maybe even top
one after the market is reset by Trey Hendrickson t
(03:03):
J Watt semi reset the market already, am I right?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
TJ Watt's TJ Watt is the standard bearer right now
in terms of or average value a year.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Who's up is it Max Crosby? That could be up
here in the next year? Is he already?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Max Crosby signed his deal in twenty five, He's signed
through twenty twenty nine. At thirty four.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
On them, there's what other edge rusher that, Oh, it's
a Parsons, Michael Parson Parsons and then Danil Hunter. But
Hunter's you know, thirty two at this point, different situation
thirty one, maybe Nick Benito he's gonna get paid. It's
just a matter if he gets paid, paid paid or
(03:44):
paid paid. I think if you do it today, you
pay pay him.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's the reason why the deal hasn't gotten done. Coach,
I firmly believe that this is not a the Broncos
don't want to pay Nick Benito yet situation. I am
completely convinced it's the Benito camp holding out trying to
see whether or not Parsons is going to reset the
market in Dallas, or if they just have to have
their hands forced and sign this extension before the year
(04:09):
to guarantee that you get that long term deal. You
get that guaranteed money. God forbid, something bad happens this year,
whether it is a drop off in your play and
he turns into an eight or nine sack guy and
now you're looking at you're looking at twenty million, twenty
four million, or if he does get again, knock on
your wood, if he gets injured and doesn't play a
full season and can't live up to that billing in
(04:31):
a contract year, you're not looking at thirty five to
forty million on an average basis. I think this has
been a Benito camp. We are in a position of power,
and let's just wait until Nick or Michael Parsons eventually
signs that deal at an average basis of like forty
two or forty three.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
The right move for Nick Benito and the right move
for the Denver Broncos for the reason that you just
mentioned it, Nick Benito, the fear is that you get injured.
I mean, like God forbids something actually did happen to
him at the tail end of his appearance in the
preseason game. Think about the amount of money that could
be left on the table if you don't secure a deal.
(05:14):
So it's the risk right you are playing. You are
playing with a big stack of chips in Vegas, and
you're saying, am I willing to walk away and put
these chips in my pocket and go to the cashier
and cash out right now? Which is what would it
be the case for Nick Benito and his agency? Or
am I willing to go out there and just keep
letting it ride?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
No, it would be dumb to bet on yourself again
this year after playing basically full seasons as a rookie,
as a sophomore, and as a third year player in
this league and having your best season again. I know
he wasn't the start of those first two years. But
having your best season come last year in fifteen starts
and thirteen and a half sacks. I hate to say,
like I don't think this is gonna be the case
(05:56):
for Nick Benino, but there's a chants that's the best
Nick Benito season there's ever gonna be.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
There's a chance. We've seen crazy chance. There's one hundred
percent chance you get injured. There's one hundred percent. There's
always the chance, right.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Which is why you sign the deal.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Baby, You sign the deal, And for the Broncos, it's
a very wise decision to sign the deal because in
the event that you wait till next year or next offseason,
or even maybe two thirds away this through through through
this season, he's already ten sacks through twelve games, you know,
nine games. He looks like he's watching him out of
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training camp practice every day. Seeing him in those those
three snaps in a row against the forty nine ers,
he looks like a guy that's gonna actually have more
sex studio.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Isn't it funny? You have the defensive player of the year,
maybe the best defensive player in foot You know he
is right now, he's the best defensive player in football
in Pats retain the second has pat been the most
dominant player on the field in camp? No, I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's been Nick Benito, Nick Benito. It's been Nick Benito. Yeah,
we see it every every day. He just keeps showing up.
So let's have the conversation about contracts. Okay, the top
five average annual value of edge rusher contracts. Number one
TJ Watt at forty one million, Number two Miles Garrett
at forty million, Number three Daniel Hunter at thirty five
(07:22):
point six million, Number four Max Crosby at thirty five
to five, and then number five. And this is what
the sweet spot that I think we need to start
talking about. Nick Bosa thirty four million, he's at number five.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
He's gonna get more than Nick Bosa. Bosa's two hurt
too often. He's getting more than Bosa.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Is he deserve to get more than Max Crosby, who's
thirty five to five?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
No, I agree with you. No.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
And I see Cole here and thinks that he deserves
more than Max Krasse.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
He's not a better pass rusher than Max Crosby.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
He hasn't proven it for the longevity of his career
like Max Crosby has. So you make Nick Benito the
fifth highest paid edge rusher in the National Football League,
and the contract should be thirty.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Four to five to thirty five to two. But every
single of there's a difference between all of those contracts
and Nick Benito. Every single one of those players signed
their most recent contract that puts them into the top
five of average contracts by ed rushers in the NFL.
All of those guys signed that contract outside of Nick
Bosa much older than where Nick Benito is right now.
(08:29):
Watt signed his extension at thirty, Garrett signed his extension
at twenty nine, daneil Hunter at thirty, Max Crosby at
twenty five. You have to find another twenty five year
old at number five, and that is Nick Bosa. What
was Max Crosby's. Max Crosby signed his deal at twenty
seven years old last offseason. It's a three year extension
at thirty five and a half million dollars. There's a
chance because of how young he is, right he's two
(08:51):
years younger than Max when he signed that extension, that
he makes more than Max just because of how young
he is and how the cap continues to rise. Yeah,
Now do I think Do I think the player is
worth more than Max Crosby at this point in his career. No,
is the ceiling just as high Shirt. Sure, So if
you told me he sits in at thirty six, thirty seven,
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thirty eight, I'm happy with that. If that's the deal.
That Like, if he actually is working on signing a
contract right now and he's not just sitting out today
because of a tweeked X, Y or Z, and he
walks out and it's thirty eight million dollars a year
over the course of four seasons, I'm ecstatic.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm for sure, for sure, get the deal done, Denver,
Get the deal done.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Nick. What's a successful season for Nick Benito? If he
doesn't sign the season this year or the extension this year,
I'd put the number at fifteen fifteen sacks.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Fifteen sacks he's going to command big money because he
did thirteen, he would be thirteen and a half backed
up by Does it change it greater than fifteen sacks?
Does that number change for you? If he signs the
extension today.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Let's say he becomes a top three paid pass rusher
in the game. This afternoon. He's at thirty eight million dollars.
He's signed through the year, you know, twenty thirty maybe
even twenty thirty one. At thirty eight million per fifteen sacks.
It doesn't change for you that And that's what he's
capable of not do.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Not only do I desire and put a number for
him to achieve at that would be an appropriate number.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I just look at the arrow on Nick Benito Raj
That arrow just.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Continues to go up and up and up. And he's
healthy and he's fresh, and he's young. Hopefully he's healthy.
I mean, I want to put that into the universe.
So there's the knock on wood on our on our
composite table that we have out here.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I literally have no wood out here around.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, it's tough, tough place to find wood. That's what
I would put as the number to make it a
generally speaking, a massive success.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
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No Nick Benito at practice, no kroll out at practice.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Did we see anything of Lucas Croll outside of being
wide open in the end zone?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Dude, we didn't talk about that touchdown pass yesterday. We
went through almost every play in the first half of
that game, every play of notes in the first half
of that game.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Of the starters and offensively and defensively, that's.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
The most wide open I've seen anyone in the end
zone in length. So what three years for the Bronx.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So what happened right there was this was a bunch
set and this is the stidem to Croll.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Touch Stidem to Croll, so it's a bunch set.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And instead of playing just like either a man coverage
or a pure zone coverage, the forty nine ers played
essentially like a version of in and out, which means,
if this guy goes in, I take him. If he
goes out, then the other other player takes him like
a safety, and the safety and corner both took the inn.
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Therefore there was nobody to take the out and the
corner route was wide open. So just you know, second
third string, maybe even four string defensive backs for the
forty nine ers and just seeing normal breakdowns. So yeah,
it was not had nothing to do with a great route.
It was a great concept. It's a great concept to
be in and out coverage, which means that you have
to you have to communicate in real time as people
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pass from you know. So it just the premise is
that all patterns have x amount of peace people they're
gonna break out, and why amount of people they're gonna
break in?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Therefore you're gonna account for it. They were set up
in amazing territory. Right there was the read interception that
put them on the San Francisco forty. You got back
to back good runs from Tyler Bday McLaughlin gets you
to the twenty five, you get an R. J. Harvey
first yard run when he bounces out, or first down
run when he bounce into the A side like you had.
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You were marching down very easily against a tired second third,
if not fourth stringers at the end of that first
half right for San Francisco. So I'm not I'm not saying,
like Lucas kroll is, is anything to be like super
excited about in terms of a red zone threat this year?
But is there anything to read into how the offense
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clicked under Jarrett stod him and it didn't under b Nicks. No, uh,
I feel like bos pressing a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I do think that my little theory after I went
back and rewatched the film about Robert Salah employing several
blitz looks that are maybe outside of the generalman's handshake
of what a preseason should look like, I think those
were reserved for Bonix because he knew that bo Nix
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is Sean's guy. I think once you got to to
Jared Stidham and going into Sam Ellinger.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
You saw way more just vanilla.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Your day one installation, base coverage, base looks, and I
think that that what happened probably for Stitty would have
happened for bo had he gotten those looks. That's how
that's how I view it, because you can't. You could
be listening right now and say, you know what bo
Nix has got it. He's a he's a starting quarterback
in the National Football League. He's gotta be able to
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make adjustments to deal with those types of pressure looks.
The answer to that is you game plan for that
week for those pressure looks that are on film or
historically film. You don't have a chance to quote game
plan when you're playing a joint practice two days before
a highly competitive joint practice that is not a normal
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game week, two days before normal game week. Game day
is basically a walkthrough, and then it's a pure walk
through the next day where.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You're working on all those various looks.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So bo Nix and his postgame press conference was right
in saying, I'm not gonna concern myself too much with it.
Preseason ends up being more about reacting and less about
game planning and executing a plan against all of the
particular looks.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
You just have to take the looks as they come.
The Athletics NFL staff came out with their quarterback tier
rankings yesterday. Bow Nicks slots in in tier number three,
alongside the likes of Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers, Tua, Trevor Lawrence,
Gino Smith, Sam Darnold, Drake May, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young,
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and Kirk Cousins. That is your Tier three quarterbacks, ranked
fifteen through twenty five. Bo sits at number twenty, tied
with Sam Darnold, ahead of May, but behind Lawrence and
Geno Smith. This tier again, according to the Athletic, a
Tier three quarterback is a legitimate starter, but needs a
heavier run game and or defensive component to win football games.
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A lower volume or lower volume drop back passing offense
suits him best.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I agree with the ranking today, meaning there's only one
year of data. The Broncos felt like they were as
good as their defense was last year in games. If
their defense was able to stemy opponents, they were going
to probably win that game. If their defense was leaky
like they were against the Bengals, frankly at times they
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were against the Browns. Luckily, they also scored on defense
as well twice that the Broncos offense outside. I thought
Bo really performed in the Bronco the Bronco Brown game
in terms of executing at a high level, becoming an
explosive offense.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I think he did some things against Cincinnati to.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Stay to stay score for score with the Bengals, but
couldn't get it done at the end of the day.
And that's where you're at right now. Where do I
think Bo's going to be postseason? Even after the preseason
game that wasn't great. I think Bo's gonna end up
being in the top fourteen category without question.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That top fourteen category. They have it as your tier two.
It's between quarterbacks number six and number fourteen. It starts
with Jaden Daniels, your reigning rookie of the Year. It
goes to Justin Herbert, who continues to be he continues
to be ranked off of the physical tools.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That but let's not forget. Do you remember Justin Herbert
last season coming to empower field I do and not
missing any throw IoT. I also remember what they did
in the playoffs? Agreed, but do you remember what the
Broncos did in the playoffs. That's fine, but that's that's
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the reality.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Of where you sit today.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Both both quarterbacks, but justin Herbert looked far superior in
their head to head matchup, and in that particular.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Game, Jared Goff ranked at number eight behind Herbert. CJ.
Stroud and Jalen Hurts tied at number nine. That's a
slap in the face of the Super.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Bowl winning quarterba qu I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Eleven through fourteen, Baker Mayfield, Dak Prescott, Jordan Love, Brock Purty.
That is your list of quarterbacks again, this is the
Athletics quarterback tiers ranking that he would have to jump
in and those become his contemporary.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
My prediction is that Bonix comes out of this season
as a top fourteen quarterback in the National Football I'm
not gonna go top ten. Not there because top ten
would require you're better than some of these guys. Jalen heard, CJ. Stroud,
Jared Goff keep going down Baker Mayfield and I'd say
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he has the ability to bypass Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And Jordan Love. Jordan Love.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I mean that was bad. They had a bad first
preseason game. Receivers just can't catch the ball in Green
Bay for some reason. Jordan was one for five and
I think he had four documented drops. Like their offense
is got has some issues. They have some dynamic firepower
that just isn't coming. It has not panned out. I
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think Bow ends up. I want to see Bo be
better than brock Purty coming out of this year, and
that's my prediction.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
If Bo isn't better than brock Purty, there's a there's
a serious issue. If Bo isn't better than brock Purty,
you're not winning a Super Bowl a bow knicks and therefore.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It will be you think after this year, because I
mean brock Purty is going this will be what year
four of brock Purty is as I mean, I guess
he didn't start the season three years ago as the starter,
became the starter as a year progressed. He's been to
a Super Bowl, hasn't won it. He's been to one,
hasn't won it. He also just got paid paid second contract.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And look at what's happened with the San Francisco defense
as a result. You're right, Talla, we're looking at it.
We're looking at him live from training camp. Deebo Samuel
is no longer on that team right there. There are
very serious issues within San Francisco, like I think there
is a very there is a much greater chance that
Kyle Shanahan doesn't have a job by the end of
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this season than San Francisco makes another run in an
NBC championship.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
The Savannah Bananas just walked by us, the firefighters and
the bananas, and I looked at him, gave him the
evil eye and said, I'm not really interested in your product.
Nonverbal communication. Didn't say it, but I'm not interested in
their product. So I don't want him on his guests,
our listeners. You guys good with that. I don't want
to TikTok dance to break out out here at training camp.
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It's football time, man, it's not theater aka fake baseball.
I digress.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Scottie Hastings was wearing a cut off savana banana shirt yesterday.
Huh did you have that conversation with Scotty? I didn't
even notice it. Scotty went, he had a good time. Okay,
not a Savannah in bananas, Guay, what was the question
I was talking? Actually, I don't even remember what I
was talking about. You've completely detailed me, coach. I appreciate that.
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The other thing I was seeing on on ESPN they
had their future team rankings, the Broncos slotting in at
number eight in terms of their their overall outlook three
four or five years into the future, and one of
the big hits that they had against the Broncos was, well,
bow Nicks wasn't as good as you think he was
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at the end of the season because he was utilizing
his feet too much and those were starting skewing his
offensive numbers. And the bold prediction that they come out
with in this one Nicks will lose his starting job
during the twenty twenty seven season, which will be his
last as a Bronco. And that actually reminds me of
what I was talking about before you derailed with this
span of bananas thing. Yeah, Bo's got to be better
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than Bronck in order to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Oh yes, oh yes, to win a Super Bowl. And
that's that's the goal. That's what the Pentner Group has
paid Sean Payton handsomely to do.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Dude, If he's not better than Brock, the bull prediction
is true, Does it have to be after this season? No,
that's that was what I would say.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
No, I think a very successful year for Bonicks to
keep the arrow trending towards Super Bowl champion. You'd overtake
brock Party this year. Now, is it a failure if
you don't. No, you're still still part of your growth.
But you will be not only ahead of schedule, you
will be in a position where the Denver Broncos don't
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just get to the point of feeling comfortable talking about
the Super Bowl, where it's it's nearly an expectation that
they're in that game.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Changed my game. I have not changed my goalposts with
the Broncos this year. My goalposts are compete seriously for
the AFC West. You don't have to win it, but
you should be in the conversation within the last two
to three weeks of the season. Right. If you find
a way to be within a game in the last
three weeks and you kind of have it within your
own hands, you win a couple and you win the division,
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I'm happy with it. If it doesn't happen, way she
goes right, you do have to win a playoff game
this year in order for me to call it to success.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
That is true must, and I think your best path
forward to winning a playoff game this year is what
I kind of kind of go back to is the
most important thing for the Denver Broncos. In Sean Payton's
real second year as the head coach. He had this
his third year, we know that, but real second year
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with his quarterback, his roster, his culture, You've got to
take you gotta take over as as at least AFC
West number two team. You gotta get better. You gotta
be better than the Chargers after this year, and that
was the biggest disappointment for me. First year head coach
Jim Harbaugh sweeps the series against second year head coach
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Sean Payton Chargers versus Broncos.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That happens again this year. This year's a failure top
to hold on top to bottom last year, though, I
don't think you can look at playing the Chargers last
year and go complete failure. You're not on the same
level of them going into this season. Last year, the
Chargers had a better roster than you. Top to bottom.
You had a rookie quarterback that was the sixth guy
selected at his position in the first round over the
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first twelve picks.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
The Chargers could also, I mean, you could argue from
a roster perspective that they might have been the most
efficient skill player group in Pro football surts of wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Looking at last year, the rosters for both teams were
vastly different. Vastly different.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Who had a better defensive roster all things at the
end of the season, the Chargers or the Broncos have
a better defensive roster Denver at the end of this
preseason note, you would have said Chargers for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
The Chargers defense was filthy.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
They ended up top five in just about every statistical
category as well. Jim Harbaugh and his ability to pound
the football, run the rock man.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
That still scares me because that's a way that.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
You win divisions or win games against divisional rivals.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
There are competitives. All He's got a rookie doing it
this year, and then do another guy with like one eye.
But what's going on with Najee Harris?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Did he play? Has he played yet? In training camp?
I haven't even looked does he Does he have any No.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Peter, We asked Peter Schaeffer that a few days ago,
and Peter went, it doesn't look good with It's not
not ideal. So you've got a rookie and a guy
who injured himself in a firework accident. Are you really
are you confident that Harbaugh can pound the rock this
year as much as he did last season?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yes, yes, because it's a it's an identity Omarion Hampton's.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Gonna be as I think he's gonna be good. I
still stand here, aren't sold on him.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I think he's even a good reason he's gonna be
good is he's gonna get so many at bats running
the football, and he's one of the one of the
few guys is gonna benefit from a head coach and
an offensive coordinator in Greg Roman that will give him
the opportunity to fully get lathered up and get into
a rhythm and into a groove. Will Sean do that
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during the regular season? Kind of did it? It was
kind of sweet. He kind of did in the preseason.
One of the better things that happened offensively for the
Denver bronco.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
He gave r J. Harvey ten Sorry it was seven
touches on the ground and another two targets with one
reception through the air.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
And he did the same thing for I mean, Watson
touched it, but they touched it three times in a row.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I don't know. Jaliel had how many touches with like
three or four. It wasn't much.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It wasn't nearly as much as the other guys, but
that was that was good to see. But can he
do it when the season starts, because I think that
who's whoever wins the battle of the of running the
football and the turnover battle between the Chargers and thes
is gonna ultimately win that series. It would be a
success for me to split with Harball.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It would be a success. You and I have had
this conversation. I think it's very, very possible that the
entire AFC West splits down the middle totally. I mean,
the Raiders, you can say that they're a dumpster fire.
They have a terrible roster.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
They do have a bunch of no names outside of
Drock Bowers, outside of Geno Smith, outside of Max Crosby
and Ashton Genty.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
The rest of the roster. I was watching the preseason,
ye who are you? Who are you?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I don't like I coached football with your contemporaries, and
I don't know any of you, like got Marien Hurt
who is It's a no name roster, but they're still
coached by a one of the better coaches over the
last twenty five years in pro football and college football
for that matter. They're gonna run the football. They're gonna
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be built to stop the run. Geno Smith can always
catch a hot hand problem with him as he does
throw the ball to the other team, he does turn
the ball over, he does create negative plays and against
his defense. If they get three takeaways against the Raiders,
the Broncos create three takeaways, you're gonna sweep the Raiders.
But if you don't, right, it's gonna feel different going
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into Allegiance this year than it did last year.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I was at that game.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It felt inevitable, like this team is a joke. This
franchise today is a joke. It got a lot more
serious with Pete Carroll, Ashton genty year or two of
Brock Bauers and Frankly as as much as a guy
like Geno Smith feels a little bit kind of like
a ploy, like it doesn't feel real, he's still good
enough to scare you, whereas that was not the case
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last year with Gardner Minshew and an Aidan o'conma.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
You mentioned something about Sean Payton in his coaching style
when it comes to the running game, and it comes
to his running backs, and that is trusting the running
game and trusting the players enough to give them some run,
to give them a little bit of rope. There's a
really interesting pair parallel that I want to draw it
to the Colorado Avalanche and Jared Benner. You don't think
of Sean Payton and Jared Bednar as the same type
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of coach when it comes to running backs for the
Broncos and when it comes to younger players for the Avs.
I think they're one and the same. We'll talk about
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in helmets and just spiders today. So light day at practice,
a lot of install that we're expecting before we get
into the similarities between Sean Payton and Jared Bednar that
I've noticed when it comes to committing to the running
game and committing to that room and Jared Bednar not
necessarily committing to his younger players. What have you seen
so far in front of you today? Coach.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I've seen a little bit of pace period, which is
like they're throwing screens and it's a one play period
and then the entire offensive unit is spring to the
other field. There feels like there's been an awakened sense
of urgency for this football team. Even some of the
practice structure. There's been more running around, there's been more
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drill to drill and I'll be on and there's louder base,
there's louder music, like you mentioned it. Sometimes coaches make
those changes, Hey, we need to crank this thing up.
Get the songs need to be louder, and they need
to be better because our energy has sucked and it
showed up on Saturday against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's such a football thing to have music blaring at practice.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
It's so weird because it used to not be a
football thing. That was a that was probably a two
thousand and I'd say two thousand and about eleven twenty
twelve is when people started blowing music at practice. And
you know what, you know it started it tempo offenses
because you no longer had communication. It was all temp
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like fast tempo. So you want this soundtrack to set
the energy for fast tempo. So it was like scrillicks,
like a lot of a lot of E d M,
a lot of uh, you know, those types of music
to set what what the tempo of practice was. But
then it also, uh, it had a little bit to
do with like we don't need to communicate anymore. We're
just gonna run as many plays at practice as humanly
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possible and then we'll just watch the film.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
When we watch the film. Is this another thing that
started in college and then actually high school? Okay, so
I was recruiting.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I was recruiting at Lake Travis High School in Austin, Texas,
just outside of the actual Lake of Lake Travis, beautiful place,
beautiful high school football program, one of the best in
the state. I go to a practice and I was
it was like six in the morning. I'd never heard
EDM music at a football practice at especially six in
the morning. I mean, they were buh lasting it and
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the tempo and energy of practice was off the charts,
and I'm like, coach, this is awesome. I wish we
did this at Stanford. And I brought the idea back
to David Shaw, who's not exactly the most emotionally charged
individual I've ever been around, very much stoic, very stoic.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
He looked at me like, I'm like, I'm about to
fire you. Yeah, he's he's.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
He looked at me as if I was like, are
you trying to change the way we football? You're not
gonna change the way we football. Never say that again.
We stand around a lot and talk a lot, and
there's no energy at our two hours and fifty minute practice.
We do football like the Stanford libraries, or we do
football exactly. I think Toby Gerhart wants to listen to Cruella. Yes,
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So that that's a little bit about just the kind
of the integration and music in a football practice. I
will say, Man, Roger, we were talking about how energy
even our radio shows energy when we're out here at practice.
The last couple of days has been the last couple
days we've been able to be out here, which was
last Monday and Tuesday, a little bit at the end
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of that six day grind of Monday through Friday. Would
you agree also that the energy out here had dipped
a bit? Oh, certainly like a lot, a lot. Well,
there's a reason why those practices went so long. Do
you also agree that since the music started blaring, since
we've seen the tempo of practice pick up significantly since
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last Tuesday, that our energy is also mirroring their energy.
Those Monty Ball jerseys, Yeah, I just had a little
Monty Ball being worn by Savannah Bananas.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
They those guys gotta be from Wisconsin. There's no reason
why you should be rocking a Monty Ball jersey yet.
Jerseys you can possibly have with the Bronco we got.
We did get a bone next jersey purchase what you
You can't be rocking a Monty Ball jersey, can't do it.
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They were, they were authentic jerseys called you. Other Broncos
roster news of they have signed wide receiver eighty Perry,
formerly interesting signee the New Orleans Saints. Okay, so at
Perry is.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
A player that was drafted in twenty twenty two out
of Wake Forest, so not not a player that was
there during the Sean Payton era of the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
But he was there with.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Darren Rizzy, who clearly is looking for more special teams juice.
But you can look out here in at Perry, number
eighty seven, just another long angular receiver. I mean, if
you look at him standing next to Cortland, Sutton, Devon Vley,
Troy Franklin, and our guy Joaquin Davis. You're like, yeah,
there there seems to be like Sean Payton has a type.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, he's six foot five two oh seven.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yeah, Raj, Like when you were in college, were you
the kind of guy that your friends would be like.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Raj has a type? Yeah, okay, I married my type.
Yeah that's cool, Good for you. I was kind of
like a all over the place short coeper nuts baby.
So I went from I went from a I got
one stuck to my head for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
My freshman year maybe mom my freshman year in college,
I had a six foot four girlfriend that was a
starter on the basketball team. My next girlfriend a five
foot three gymnast that was a type.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Coach, not a type. Yeah, just you know, just keep it,
keep it, you know, keep I do. Now I have
a type. Her name's Amory. I was gonna say my type.
You might want to amend that. It's been my type
for twenty four years now.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
So going back to the type that Sean Payton has
at Perry being an interesting player out of Wake Forest
at the combine, he measured in nearly nearly six foot four,
just a shade under six feet four, but ran a
four four seven forty yard dash.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Tons of Monty Ball jersey's coming here? Three three Monty
Ball jerseys worn by the Savannah Banana dudes. You know why?
Probably the Broncos story. Oh, crapo, crapo, crap Do we
have any jerseys?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
These guys they've been they're like been trying to get
rid of these game authentics, and they're like, Oh, the
Savannah ban As are here.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
We gotta give him something. We gotta give something. Got
him something for free? Oh we got some malls? I
think I like I have one of those for the
for the Nuggets. I've got like a sign is it
Monte Morris. I've gotta sign Montey Morris jersey from like
years ago. I'm not gonna do anything with it. It's
just sitting in the house collecting. Dave mars is a
pretty good Uh, wasn't he pretty good? He's a solid
(36:25):
player Warrior too. Did he play for the Warriors. He's
bounced around. Yeah, yeah, he's a solid player for the Nuggets.
I enjoyed him. I did. Uh. You mentioned you mentioned
Sean Payton not committing to the run game, and uh
will he do it much like Horror Baugh has uh
in Los Angeles with the Chargers, And I couldn't help
(36:47):
but think Jared Bednar has to do the same thing
with the Avalanche this year because of the lack of
let's be honest, the lack of skill and the lack
of scoring in the bottom six that they have coming
into this year. I've looked at the line combinations. I've
asked to see if they can trade another player that
(37:07):
is in their bottom four in defense, to see if
you can bring in some better players in your middle
six with the forwards, and you might not be able to. Like,
have they kicked the tires on Sam Girard this offseason
with other teams, I would think they have. And there's
a reason why he's still in Colorado and he's skating
with Keaton Middleton and skating with Brent Burns over the
last few days. I just don't know if the market
(37:30):
was there for a guy like Sam Gerard, who would
have been had would have had to have been the
player to move on from in order to bring in
a player of substance for the forwards in the middle
or the bottom six. They signed Joel k v Ront.
They have to find a young player or two or
three and lean on them early on in the season.
Where I see Bednar he gets a little bit of
(37:51):
success with guys. You know, you see the Prishapov and
he looks okay, or the ivan Ivans of the world,
and they look okay, and they don't get extended looks,
extended run. They automatically just go, You'll play a couple
of games. If you're good enough for us, we'll send
you back down and we'll use you in spots. I
think at the beginning of the season, much like Sean
Payton has to do with his running back room, Jared
(38:13):
Bednar has to commit to running or running the football,
has to commit to commit to his young players in
the bottom six, and if that means you're gonna lose
a couple of games early on the season, you have
to deal with it. Sean Payton has to do the
same thing with his running back So tell me who.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Who would be some of the I guess down the
road young players that could end up commanding significant ice
time in NHL games. Are these are these players that
finished out at Eagles? Are they in the system? Are
these guys that we are all very familiar with as
AVS fans.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
No, they're gonna be players that you really aren't familiar
with because of how thin their their farm system has
become over the past few years by trading away players
and trading away picks to try and run a championships.
And obviously you got one of those back in twenty
twenty two, but it's been diminishing returns ever since. The
guys that you're gonna have to look out for this season,
(39:06):
I think Gavin Brindley, who comes across in the deal
with Columbus, who is a smaller player albeit has first
and second round pedigree to him. He's small, but he's
defensively sound, he skates really well. You have to give
him a little bit of rope. You have to look
at finding a way to get a player like Mikhale
Guliyayev on the back and over from the Continental League
(39:31):
as soon as maybe at the end of this season,
right Like I know Ili Nbokov is gonna come back
over from the KHL after his season's over. I want
them to do the same with Guliaev. Could you look
at a Taylor mccark, like a big body forward type
of player that could get a couple of minutes. Those
are the type of players. It's you're gonna see the
the a Chan, You're gonna see the the Steinberg's get
(39:52):
some minutes, but you have to commit to playing them.
None of those names that I just mentioned, outside of
Gavin Brindley in and Mikhail Julie should excite you. As
an Avalanche speak.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Speaking of very young players in the AVS, I got
to spend about an hour last night with somebody who's
not young and is an ave. Last night at orientation
for transfer students, I got a chance to see none
other than Brent Burns.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Is he wearing shoes? Uh, he was wearing shoes. Their
flip flops did not.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
He was not wearing his teeth And honestly, having spent
time around professional athletes, arguably one of the most genuine,
awesome human beings I've ever seems like in my life,
that guy is awesome, dude. He he has so much
positive energy. He'd be a great friend of the program.
(40:49):
At some point we gotta becoming we gotta get a
little Brent Burns on the area. That guy's got juice.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Man. He's a player that I think is going to
transform how this defensive unit plays. I think he is
his lan is everything at six foot five and north
to two hundred pounds like he again, he's six' five
and like two thirty. Eight he is. Massive is he a?
Bruiser not, necessarily but he doesn't have to. Be what
he brings to the team off of the ice is
what you're gonna miss If Eric johnson isn't on this.
(41:15):
Team AND i THINK ej is gonna get a contract
sent his. WAY i know all those guys are out
there and uh in The Amalfi coast enjoying their time
With nathan. McKinnon not all of, them but a. Handful
Eric johnson is among. Them he has to take over
the mantle of old guy on the team that is
all about the. Vibes, yeah and he is just energy
(41:35):
in and of.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Itself he's gonna be a great kind of yen to
maybe the overly serious nature Of nathan. McKinnon, yan and
that's what he, is like HE'S i don't, KNOW, Raj,
Like i'm a guy that's would you? Agree WHEN i
come into a, room most times it's kind of like
chaos and loud and obdoc like, yeah, Yeah i'll give you,
that and and and When i'm not, there you notice.
(41:58):
It maybe that's WHAT i think That Brent burns is
gonna be for THIS avs locker. ROOM i had so
much fun talking to. Him he's in tremendous. Shape tremendous.
Shape he doesn't look like a guy that's carrying around Fifteen, well,
really twenty years of professional?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Hockey this?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Is this?
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Is is this his twenty fifth year of professional hockey
between you, know low between like major Junior, yeah if
you add in his major junior, seasons, yeah twenty fifth year.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Of, hockey that's. Insane i'll say this about.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Him he had a chance to come out and watch
me coach football practice one of the.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
DAYS i didn't know he was out. There he.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Was his mind was blown by, how, like how.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Does football operate like?
Speaker 3 (42:38):
This because He's, Canadian he's, LIKE i don't understand how
they know all these?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Plays how do they know where to?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Go how are there one hundred and thirty five people
on a field at one time and they all know
what they're.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Doing it was really cool to talk to him about.
It it's like two different. Worlds take a quick time.
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