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August 12, 2025 44 mins
Nik Bonitto's contract is on the horizon but what else needs to get done? Coach and Raj discuss that while breaking down what happened at practice. 

KJ's NFL Notes 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Back out here live at Broncos training camp. All of
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W takeover from twelve to three. They'll have live podiums
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to everything that we learned today at a non padded

(00:38):
Broncos practice. Looking like they're gonna keep the intense work
until the Arizona Cardinals come here on Thursday for a
joint practice session ahead of Week two of the NFL preseason.
Start off the show talking about Nick Benito, who was
not originally out here. He is now back out. He's
in a hoodie, but not with his helmet Dawn and
not with any spider unders. He's not participate in practice today.

(01:02):
He did pull up a little bit lame on Saturday's practice.
Nothing really to be concerned about, but definitely something to
keep an eye on as other players of his ILK
in this offseason, in this training camp coach, when they've
been held out of practices like that. It's been a
similar optic, has it not a lot of times it
ends up in a contract situation and.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
All of a sudden we get some news coming down.
I hope that's what we I really hope we get that.
I want that desperately, either today or tomorrow. A So
it means that there's no concern about the health of
Nick Benito, which I don't think there is, man, But
it does just feel does it feel after his performance
in preseason, him getting even pulled up just a little

(01:44):
bit lame that you're like, this needs to happen, because
then you've got a player that's gonna like, you're gonna
ask me to play in preseason when I'm like fighting
for every single dollar, Like this needs to happen. And
that's what I feel, man, This needs, this does need
to happen, that Nick Bonito needs to be paid. What
do we say thirty five?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I was cool with thirty eight because that gets him
to legit number three, number three in terms of average value.
That gets him to number three, and he would have
signed that deal at twenty five years old, which puts
him right around the time in the age that Nick
Bosis signed his contract.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
So therefore you could potentially have incredible savings in three years.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Right, do it now. Don't get into the situation that
the Dallas Cowboys always find their themselves in. Don't get
into that situation like the Avalanche got themselves into those
situations too. You wait until the last minute to re
sign Miko Ranston when it first came around. You got
into the last minute to resign Gabriel Landeskog when his

(02:43):
big deal came up, and then you kind of waited
and forced yourself into trading Miko Ranston last year during
the season because you were nervous that you would have
had to like let him walk. Don't don't put yourself
in the position that the Abs put themselves in.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Eventually, you gotta pay the pipers man. You pay the
pipe pay him early, no question.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
They did it with Zach Allen, and they're already looking
at that deal, going yeah, it's one of the better deals,
if not best deals, for a player that is that
that versatile on the defensive line. You're gonna have the
same feeling if Nick Benito signs his deal today, do
it now? He clocked in at number thirty eight on
NFL dot COM's one hundred list, and this from that article,

(03:24):
Benito explodes onto the scene in the wake of Baron
Browning's Week two injury, and he played so well that
Browning was obviously expendable at the trade deadline. Obviously leads
the Broncos in sacks at thirteen and a half, and
he only played sixty one percent of the snaps on
defense last year. That number has to go higher.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I think so. But man elite ed dreshers, how often
do they play upwards of seventy five percent of the snaps?
I mean, I'm guessing it's it's fairly low. Max Crosby's
a bit of an outlier. He seems like his motor
is just completely completely off off the charts. But you
gotta think, like Micah Parsons, is he playing seventy five

(04:03):
percent of his team snaps? I guess. I mean, when
you start thinking, you start getting into the TJ Watts
of it all. And those guys are high, high energy guys,
high output players.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
What is what can I hear right now? I don't
hear any oh, I hear there's Avalanche highlights going on
my phone. What am I doing? Defensive?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
You are a mess today.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm a mess. Defensive stat count back, and so let's
go back to elite pass rushers and how many snaps
they play in terms of percentage. Let's go back to
the Broncos in twenty fifteen, Von Miller, who was a
freak that year and obviously won Super Bowl fifty m
seventy six percent. I want Nick Benito at three quarters
of your defensive snaps. You want that money.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
You want to be the all time Broncos No.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
This is the twenty fifteen season by itself, So you're
looking at pure edge rusher. Go get the football, Go
get the quarterback. You want to be vonn You want
to be a top three paid edge rusher in the league.
I'll play seventy five percent of the snaps. We've been
talking about how what the expectations are for Nick Benito
going into the season, and if it changes based off
of based off of the amount of money that you're

(05:11):
being paid, if you sign that deal in the offseason,
it can't be sixty one percent of the snaps. If
you are completely healthy and he wasn't fully healthy last year.
He was largely healthy, not fully Nick Bonito. If you're
completely healthy, dude, you're playing three quarters of the snaps.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
TJ. Watt the standard bear last season, what percentage do
you think he played a snaps?

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Seventy two he played? Is it way higher?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
He played eighty six percent of the total snaps for
the for the Pittsburgh Steelers. You have, you have a
really valid point, a highly highly valid point. So let's go.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Max Crosby von the year before twenty fourteen eighty four
percent of the team snaps on defense. The year before
that in twenty thirteen on defense, I think was Vaughn hurt?
In twenty thirteen Vaughn was hurting twenty thirteen only forty
seven percent. Max Crosby, that guy never comes off the field.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Ninety Every year has been nearly it's been ninety percent
or above every year.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
You gotta play, dude, you have to play. You need snaps.
Is seventy five percent low? Now, now that you're looking
at these comparisons for contemporaries.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
So TJ. Watt and uh and and Max Crosby are
like known. Let's see what Michael Parsons is Michael Parsons.
If you're gonna make thirty eight season, dude, he's an
eighty one percent guy.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
You can't be at sixty. You got to be at
seventy five or higher. Seventy five is low more the
low watermark for those types of players. Yeah, you're not
a gadget player. You are not a luxury item at
sixty percent of the snaps if you're making thirty eight
million dollars.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
So we're onto some seven on seven. This is good
work here, so that Lucas Croll is back out on
the field. He just got a got a corner out
on a flood concept first play off seven on seven
from Bonnix. You know, I noticed watching bow Knicks today
the sense of urgency from bo picked up. He's actively

(07:12):
coaching receivers on exactly what he wants. Hey, take this
type of level of patience, this stick. I want this
to time out this way. I see a player right
now that probably was going through the doldrums of the
monotony of training camp, certainly that six day in a
row training camp.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Because we saw that command of the huddle early on
in camp the first couple of days, and we made
a note of it that like Sean Payton wasn't ever
talking to Bo Nicks, he was talking to other position groups,
and bow was in command of his offensive line and
his wide receiver groups. It did kind of go by
the wayside of this.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
It felt a little like there was a general malaise
over not only Bonnicks, but I'd say the general the
general football team, which was interesting. And that shows youquarterback
to your leader. And so as a quarterback, if you
just have a three day stretch where there's a bit
of a just just the energy, the attentiveness to detail,
the the command, where it dips, then you start to

(08:13):
see some diminishing returns Bonicks Bonus, he looks like he
is ready to respond. That's what I see. I see
a quarterback that says, man, this hasn't been a great
training camp for me. That was not a good performance
in my first preseason game, and I had my entire
crew of weapons out there.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Response has always been one of your favorite things about Bo,
has it not?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's it is what I believe is what kept him
from going the way of many other rookie quarterbacks following
I wouldn't call it a disastrous start at Seattle and
a disastrous second game. It's a great throw right there
from Bonix.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
As a rookie. No, those two starts were not disastrous,
but he has.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Bonded immediately after with the with the briar Gar trip
back to the East Coast.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
If he has the same situation happen in year two
where he throws red zone picks where you need points, Yep,
it turns into disaster.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
It turns in disaster unless you respond. They respond the
next series, respond the next game. Don't allow the same
mistakes to permeate. And that's what we've seen from Bright.
But you can't.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
You can't start slow this season with how the schedule
gets really tough in the middle, you cannot start slow.
We've talked about how important the first four games of
this season are. You gotta find a way to be
three and one. If you're not three and one after
the first four, the talk of the AFC West Crown
is it's kind of over.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
We were talking about it yesterday. How you might have
a good start to the season if you're the Denver Broncos.
Not a great start to the season, but you might
be playing good football and you might start two and three.
You might start the season two and three rush and
if that's the case, what does that ultimately lead to
big pictures?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
So if you start two and three, that means did
you start to to oh? And then you lose three
straight and that.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Let's talk about who those teams are. At the Chargers.
You've got to get over the hump there home against Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
That's a game you should win with how but what
a beautiful ball bow just threw Detroy Franks.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
That was stitty?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Was stitty?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah? Stitty? Man, he's Dial.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
It's just a training camp, hero, Dial. I thought it
was bo. It's just a training camp hero, Jared Stidham.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Training camp and preseason game. And then you have your
fifth game would be at Philadelphia. It's a tough start, man,
like the game that I look at and I read,
I read letter at Red Circle, at whatever you want
to do. Do not sleep on this game either at Indianapolis. Man,
it's early on in the season. Guy Devon Mele just

(10:48):
made a tremendous catch, another absolute seed from Jared Stidham
on a back shoulder throw.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
A little forty five yard.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
It was kind of a back shoulder fifty. It was
a tell you what, man, I will say the offense
looks like it is it is set out to get
the bad taste out of their mouth. And you wonder
if there's some player leadership that took place where it's
not just Sean getting in there, getting in their bacon,
getting in their chili a little bit, but it's it's

(11:18):
these players talking to each other about, Hey, that's what
we put forth in the last three weeks or even
two and a half weeks, unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Before the energy, the rebound energy that we're seeing in
front of us right now today. You know what that is, man,
That is there's always give and take, there's always good
and bad. Yep, that is the bad situation born from
no drama training camp.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, you're right? Is there almost isn't. It's funny man.
I always joked that. I like we're talking about what
our types are as it relates to females. I couldn't
have married somebody that was just no drama all the time.
I need some of the ups and downs in my life, man,
I do I.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Need some of that to get a text message?

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Here? Your tongue. Oh, I get him all the time,
not just about what I say on air, just about
just life. I mean, that's a little bit where urban
Meyer was a head coach in the NFL game, a
terrible head coach in the college game. Multiple national championship
winner won it. Bowling Green built Utah into the program

(12:20):
that it is today, and then obviously won national championships
at both Florida and Ohio State. He believed in crisis creation.
My dad worked for him at Utah. If things are
going along too smoothly, or they just seems like there's
nothing happening, that's a moment of adversity.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
You get a little handsy with someone at a bar.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yep, you try to see see what what's going on
down there at the bar. No in trading cap he
would create some type of crisis, whether it's you know,
benching a senior leader that the whole team revolts against him.
He loved creating massive, massive UH situations of UH of infighting.

(13:02):
That's not really my jam because I like, I like
the game of football should be pure. But you can
see the reason why. And there's our guy Joaquin Davis
on a shallow cross, Sam Ellener Ellinger stays hot, Joaquin
Davis UH doing what he does. Man, exciting player.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
My training camp Darling number eighty Joaquin Davis.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't know how Sean Payton allows him to leave
this facility, uh and sign elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
If you try and stash him on the practice squad again,
well he The reason why you might be able to
stash him on practice squad is if he doesn't put
up big tape in any of the final two.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
He ended up having. I think he had a reception
if I'm not mistaken in the preseason game.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Now, the if the word gets out from camp that
he's looked really good, that's a bad ball, was that,
Sam Ellinger?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, I've learned. Also, uh raj it is hard g
oh Ellinger. Yeah, I was saying it wrong. I had
heard in the recruiting world back in the day that
it was Ellen Jurr. But I found out being on
with Chris Taveres of nine News. Okay, we did the
halftime in postgame show for the for the nine News
broadcast of Broncos at forty nine ers Chris Deaverez. He's

(14:13):
an Austin native, so is our guy Sam Ellinger, and
he also covered the Texas Longhorns for the entire day
of sam Ellinger's college career.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, the good news is barring complete travesty this year,
we won't have to worry about saying Sam Ellinger's name
much this year.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Correct. Correct, Although he did look great, he did look
it great in the training, in the preseason game, and
so far in training camp.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Take a quick break on the other side, kJ, we'll
have his NFL Notes. Tell us what's going around the
rest of the National Football League. As we are in
week two of the preseason. Coach Mike Stanford, Alex Ryan
to me, it's the Morning Sprint every day. Here on
the Morning Sprint with Coach and Raj, we go through
the biggest stories in the gridiron with kj's NFL Notes.
Week two of the NFL's preseason. We're out here live

(14:58):
but Broncos Park, powered by Commons Spirit. Again. All of
our training camp coverage this year is brought to you
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partner of Bronco's Country, kJ wits first.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Earlier this morning, Bronco star outside linebacker Nick Benito was
announced as the number thirty eight player in the NFL
for the twenty twenty four season on their Top one
hundred lists by the Players. Here's a snippet of what
players around the league think of Nick Bonito and our
apologies to twitching YouTube ahead and music under it. So

(15:32):
unfortunately you guys will not hear it.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
He is worth, without a doubt, a top five edge
rusher contract in the league right now. Sign him now.
The issue is if your Benito's camp, you don't sign
until Michael Party or Michael Micah Parsons.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
It has become so Jerry's head man jes so much
the show is that we Jerry has disrespected Micah Parsons
so badly that we no longer call him by his
real name.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
If you're the Benito camp, you wait until that deal
gets done. You can't jump the gun on this, can't
do it.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
But you did mention something. Nick Benito doesn't have anywhere
near the average snap count no that some of those
top four guys do have.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
That's part of the conversation.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
High percentage of snap count, Max Crosby insanely high number
of snap count above ninety percent of majority of his
seasons in the NFL. What do we say even Parson
was above seventy or above eighty. I mean that that
has to mean something because those guys that are getting
that type of money. TJ. Watt is not a He

(16:43):
is not a net negative in the run game against
the run game. He's a net positive. Max Crosby big
time net positive against the run game. I'd say Micah
Parsons mixed back, good run defender or not a little
bit of a mixed bag. Nick Benito. That's been the
one downside of him to pay him top three money
because the top three guys right now in the National

(17:04):
Football League that are that kind of uh, that that
kind of edge rusher. Also, they are not a liability
whatsoever whatsoever in those in those run gotta have it situation.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Dollar per play is likely what they're looking at here.
And then I suppose on the opposite side of that negotiation,
if you're in the Benito camp, you can go, well,
look what he does with only sixty percent.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
For sure, he's highly productive. He does show I think
he shows enough versatility. The film I watched of him
was positive as it relates to what he does on
on you know, rundowns. He just needs to be out
there with more frequency.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
kJ what's next.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
That wasn't my vision.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Is being Seth Walder wrote on Monday that as a
bold prediction. He thinks Boone Knicks will lose his starting
job in twenty twenty seven and leave the Broncos at
the end of that season. Quote there's optimism optimism around
him now, but there's reason to be skeptical in the
long run. As a rookie, his rushing led him to
be decent efficiency wise, but he ranked twenty eighth and

(18:10):
completion percentage.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Over xpect I kept talking about that one last year.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I know you should need that one.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
And then what was the other one? EPA? Yep, what
is it like, extra additional or estimated points added a
value per pass or whatever? His EPA per pass was
not good.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
And he was twenty second in yards per drop back
despite playing behind a top tier offensive line. The roster
around him is great now, but it won't always be
in quote, So I want to lean into that last
part there where he says it won't always be great
around him. If both Knicks becomes a quarterback that needs
talent around him to be essentially brock party, would the

(18:50):
Broncos be right to move on from Boknicks in twenty
twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
I don't think we need to top the brakes here
big time. We had to. Week ago, we were having
conversations about the national narrative that Sean Payton said that
this is going to be a top three, top four
quarterback in the NFL within the next year or two fingers,
and now we're all of a sudden saying he won't
play for the Denver Broncos in twenty seven. Like I

(19:17):
usually say, the truth lies somewhere between these two realities.
I believe just being out here every day at practice,
knowing what makes bo Nick's tick, seeing his response today,
watching the red zone team period in front of us
as we speak, and as I watch right here, he
does throw a nasty incompletion into a running back Vielene
of Scrimmage, I would say that Bonnicks is going to

(19:38):
not just be your quarterback in twenty twenty seven, Bonis
is going to be a top ten quarterback after the
twenty twenty seven season.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Once again, the pass rush looks dominant, and that's even
without Nick Benito being out there against speaking first team offense.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Speaking of which, can I can I Can I shower
some praise on a player that I don't think we've
talked about enough This train camping at a awesome preseason game,
Jonah Ellis. Jonah Ellis has been awesome. I think this
guy is is twitched up. He looks healthy. He is
the guy's a problem. He's a real problem, and he's

(20:14):
a He's a net positive in the run game as well.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
JK. Dobbins continues to show his East West ability. That's
gonna be He's he's your best back.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
If there's one thing I've learned, as much as there
were some positives take away from R. J. Harvey's burst
that he showed to get to the edge, JK. Dobbins
is RB one for this football team today and it's
not particularly close.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I think the Seth Walder comment about how you know
is Seth Walder. He's an ESPN writer for the NFL
and and part of that exercise, it was part of
the the future rankings of teams three years down the road.
Part of that exercise was one big bold prediction for
each one of the teams. That was the big bold
prediction is that bo Nicks is not the start in

(21:00):
Denver come twenty twenty seven. I don't see a world
in which that happens, right, And I think it's the
same reason why I don't think that he that bo
is capable of a sophomore slump. He doesn't do enough
things badly. He doesn't do enough things that are catastrophic
to a team to have the bottom fall out on him.
And yeah, is he gonna need some help to get

(21:21):
him to elevate his game? Does he need a true
number one wide receiver eventually? Does he need a true
tight end that can make a difference in the past game. Yes,
he does, and hopefully that's gonna be Evan Ingram. But
when that time comes, sure the defense takes a little
bit of a step down, But do you start to
balance those two units out rather than having it be
a have and have.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Not Right, it's gonna be okay, agreed.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's a disaster if he's not on the team in
twenty twenty seven, kJ keep it going.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I wasn't my vision.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
As we start to take a peek into later this
week with the Arizona Cardinals, Hey coach Jonathan again and
stepped up to the podium this morning and he talked
about why this week won't necessarily determine everything for Cardinals players,
but it will define who may be a part of
the bigger picture this week.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
I mean OTAs you know, different parts of the year,
different repsy might be waited a little bit differently. But
I went on this morning as well, you know, and
I told the team today, like, I'm not making decisions
off of today's practice and Thursday's practice and Saturday's game,

(22:32):
but these this is an important week for our guys
because roles are starting to get defined and the clock
is ticking.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Are there any bubble players for the Broncos that fit
that same tone?

Speaker 3 (22:45):
I think it's the gosh, the biggest bubble player today
for me and the Denver Broncos is a player that
just appears to have fallen out of favor with this
franchise and most importantly with play caller Sean Payton. And
that's odd your cast today. It's not typically a good
sign if you are the fifth round drafted running back

(23:07):
from last year and you are now getting the clean
up carries in a preseason game at the end of
the fourth quarter as time is expiring. Tyler Bade Blake
Watson both got reps well before. Adric Gast consistent and
Adrick Estime basically just closed out the scrimmage, I mean

(23:29):
the preseason game. It's a scrimmage for all intense purposes.
It's not a great sign for Audric. Not a great sign,
and the Broncos have wanted Audric estime to be this player.
Great throw from Jared Stidham, tight coverage Jade Baron on
Devon Veley, and just a great catch by Vele A

(23:50):
nice little rpo. But it's almost as if when you
watch Adricstaby, you're waiting for the moment where he breaks tackles.
You're waiting for the moment where he runs people for
We just haven't seen it. We haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I don't think he's making the team.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
I don't either.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
I think you're running backs, are Dobbins, Harvey McLoughlin.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
I think, I think. I think the day's going to
be active, and I think you try to keep Watson
in practice, squad stashed. That's what I think you do,
and I think that's a good I think it's a
good group.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Estimates the cut, dude, it's just the writings on the wall.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
He looks to be the cut, you know. I linebacker.
I think because of what's happening, Alex Singleton is back
out here. I'm watching him. I'm trying to find dra Greenlaw.
I see him, I think over on the sideline. Have
you seen Drake green Law here today?

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I haven't seen him yet today.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
He has not been turning any reps. It appeared that
it's Alex Singleton getting a lot of the first reps
with backer and Justin Strenad both as a is a
special teams guy and then also he appears to be
the next linebacker up. Lavelle Bailey might have kind of
slipped down. That's a great throw and catch right there,

(25:00):
an ingram right over the middle of the field, and
another Jarrett Stidham Just dime, are like, are we overreacting
right now into watching Jarrett Stidham look.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
No, because because he looked like that last year or too. No,
he didn't yod.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Averages grits at training camp. Man, I don't know, man,
He's looked like that preseason game was fantastic. What he
did in that preseason game. What he's doing out here
right again?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
But he's going against twos and threes right now like
he was against San Francis.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Very true. Bo should look good. BO went against twos
and threes in the opening series for three for three series.
Did you see one San Francisco forty nine ers starter
against Bonick.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
No, he didn't.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
He is seeing starters right now again at broadcost training camp,
but still back to one of ones on ones.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Okay, man, kJ what's next?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Stop it? Uh? The twist?

Speaker 4 (25:55):
They twitsch Chant does want to know coach, like, if
you had to give a grade thus far? Was looking
out there today?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
How?

Speaker 4 (26:01):
How's how are things going? I think we may have
lost the guys temporarily here for just a quick second,
but nonetheless we'll continue to work through it as the
guys are getting ready to reconnect here in just a second.
But as coach just eluded their you know, quarterbacks are
looking good. Both Nixy's back facing the ones, Jared Stillham's

(26:22):
throwing crazy passes out there. So it's a it's it's
what you to expect that training camp. You know, the
offense is trying to figure it out. I think they've
got some fire under room now, especially looking at how
things played out against the forty nine ers, So that's
something you definitely got to always kind of keep in mind,
is like, when how does this team respond? We saw
moments of it last year, and I think we're seeing

(26:42):
moments of it right now in training camp. So kudos
to the offense. They're looking good today. They they they're
looking a lot better compared to day's past. So for
what is worth, will take it. You guys, got me?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yes, sure, got you? Brother?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Sorry, man, I started talking about bone X and the
and the the fictitious quarterback controversy that that my brain
is trying to create.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
You got centered, Yeah, it was. It was wise they
snipped a wire.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Wisely, they centered me because it is acidine to even
consider that.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Well, here we go.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Let's go to the biggest story that want to play.
Uh oh, talk to me, coach.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
We got some action today. Man, this is a good practice.
This is the first fun practice I've watched since that
Wednesday of two weeks ago. I just had an incredible
interception by Jaden Robinson, the nickel from Oregon State, six
foot one, ninety three undrafted free agent rookie, covering Jerwan
Newton and a pass thrown by Sam Ellen here. It

(27:38):
was a great throw, but was able to just got
tipped enough and uh, the interception was made, just tremendous.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
All right, Well we've lost the guys, but anyway, as
we transition to our next door here, The biggest story
outside of the Broncos right now is Jordan Love. Packers
quarterback Jordan Love Tory Ligerman his left thumb. It had
a procedure to repair their GM Brian guten Counts announced
earlier this morning. He called it a quote little procedure.
He also said he shouldn't miss any regular season time,

(28:10):
and this is after he banged his left thumb on
the helmet taking a sack this past weekend. The surgery
will be today to repair the ligament. So they are
believing that things will be just fine. And as the
guys are back out of their training camp. That can
hear me now? I was just talking about Jordan Love
and the surgery he's having on his left thumb that

(28:32):
was announced this morning by GM Brian guten Counts, And
I just wanted to ask you guys, what's the likelihood
that this becomes a lingering or nagging issue this season
in regards to Jordan Love trying to figure out, you know,
how to hold the ball like you know, things of
that nature. Do you think it could become a nagging thing?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
You bring up a valid point in the sense that
Jordan Love plays in a stadium, in a Division where
there's some cold weather games. Soldier Field cold weather game,
obviously the frozen tundra, lembeau Field, Minnesota. You don't have
to deal with it. Obviously being on the road in
US Bank Stadium, but yeah it's Detroit, you don't deal

(29:12):
with it. But to you know, really, you're gonna play
a lot of your home games in cold weather environments.
I don't love this for my guy, To be candid,
I think he sustained this injury from the preseason game
in which he was one of five, which wasn't great
both for him and for the Packers offense. If you remember,
he had a great first season as a starter. It
was healthy that year. Set year two opened. The season

(29:36):
opens up in that horrible pitch, a horrible field in
Brazil at a soccer stadium. Guys are slipping all over
the place. There's injuries left and right. Jordan Love ends
up hurting his knee and you deal with a lingering
issue to start the season at the quarterback position. You
don't It's hard enough to play quarterback in the National
Football League. You don't need to have these things that
just linger over you. And even a left thumb procedure

(29:59):
that's you're gonna be You're gonna be sidelined for some
time to let the even the wound of the surgery heal.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Being an offhand right, an off throwing hand surgery. How
much does that affect you as a quarterback?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Taking snap up snaps under center can be a problem.
The like you can't just club up and play quarterback,
even if it's your off hand. You can't. It's really
really challenging. I just think it's it'll be fine once
he gets back into it. I what I don't love
about it for Jordan is he's gonna miss time and
he needs the development. He's he's a good player, but

(30:35):
he's a hot, like high ceiling player, but his floor
has proven to be pretty low at times, decision making,
you know, being a little bit risk averse with the football.
He's he's gotta have a big year.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
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(31:11):
in just a few minutes. That's the coach, imraj. It's
Altitude Sports Radio ninety two to five wrapping things up
here on a two K Tuesday with the mornings sprint
the coach, Mike Sandford, Alex, Ryan Emy PhDs coming up
next from noon to three, Nate and Andy on your
drive home from three to six. Today, no pads today
for the Broncos. Just helmets and spiders.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
But a good spider helmet type day.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
It was a fast day, it had more energy. It
was lacking in the energy department. Certainly in the middle
of last week before they left to go play the
forty nine ers in their joint practice session, it did
seem like it was lacking pace. Today was not that game.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
What we saw of the first two series of the
Broncos opening preseason game at San Francisco felt like a continuation. Yes,
what was a generally speaking, less energetic, less urgent style
of practice for nearly a week. I mean it was
about a week that we saw that it didn't have

(32:11):
that same pop that it had in those first ten practices.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Did you see the news coming out of the Nevada
Supreme Court as it pertains to John Gruden, who has
been in an ongoing legal battle with the National Football
League dating back to his twenty twenty one leaked emails
case that eventually led to his firing as head coach
of the Raiders. The Nevada Supreme Court rules in Gruden's

(32:36):
favor five to two. Is the decision that his lawsuit
against the NFL will not go to arbitration and behind
closed doors, but it can now proceed in public. Gruden
sued the NFL, sued the commissioner, saying that the NFL
had deliberately leaked his emails to ruin Gruden's reputation to

(32:56):
get him fired from the Raiders. So again, it was
an ugly situation. Obviously those emails should not have been
sent and those words not used. But it seems as
though Gruden's going to be able to have a leg
to stand on, to go up against the shield, which
is not something that a lot of people normally get
the opportunity to do.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, it's it's gonna be fascinating to see. I mean,
John Gruden certainly way out of line with some of
his emails and stuff that we ended up becoming a
public information, public assumption, but it is what it is.
They you know, I love I love John Gruden to
the football coach. I don't love John Gruden from some
of the things that I've heard about the person. But hey,

(33:35):
people make mistakes in their lives. There's plenty of people
out there that have made mistakes and that learned from
said mistakes. We'll find out if that ends up being
John Gruden and he gets the opportunity to be a
head coach again.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
In a far less serious headline, would you like to
hear the latest on Florida Man?

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Which one off?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Florida Man? Yes, any Florida Give me a Florida man.
Florida man catches eighty seven invasive pythons in a month,
and he's awarded one thing thousand dollars through Florida's state
incentive systems. So pythons Bermese pythons. If I'm eighty seven
eighty seven python venomous, no, just.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Non venomous, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
If he's just an invasive python, a massive, massive snake,
he's Aaron Mann. He won a thousand dollars for capturing
eighty seven of these gigantic snakes which are like wrapped
around him in his waite. Seems like a lot of
effort for a g feels like a whole ton of
snakes for one thousand dollars, dude, it comes out to
like twelve bucks a snake.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
And those things, if you see the picture that we're
looking at, they're gigantic. Those are not the kind of
snakes that you want to just just casually try to wrangle.
Eleven fifty bortified a snake.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I can't stand him.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Snakes or spiders scary more like potentially poisonous spiders. Snakes
spiders like for me, why you can just smosh them,
You just smack them. I always think about just the
old snake attack, not knowing, not seeing them, because they
can you never know. Some drops on you, you know,
you're going through and you're going through the garage and
you have a you know, you take out a cardboard

(35:08):
box and a and a black widow just just lands
right inside of your collar. Yeah, that's scary. I just
I've got snakes skilled.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I got visions of freaking ice cube and John Voyd
and j Lo and anaconda, and I can't get that
out of my head.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I love snakes. I was hiking at Garden of the
Gods with my family and I it.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Was three years ago, so I just rattlesnake all I
had a fight.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yep. So we were we were we were walking kind
of on our own in this area that was a
little bit less traveled by the tourists. Of course, that
was my idea, let's go over here it's less touristy.
And there was a baby rattler right in our track, like.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Walking boom, there's a mama somewhere.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Well. Even scarier than that baby rattlers. They're poisonous. Their
their venom is highly more toxic because it's more concentrate.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Okay, I suppose that makes sense. Found that anatomically.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yep. Found that out after the fact. But I gave
the family the hey, everybody, relas, take a few steps back,
stay back there. And then my redneck friend who I
coached with at SeeU, started going after the dang thing
with the stick, and I'm like, you're a moron, what
are you doing. He's lunatic. He grew up in Oklahoma,

(36:23):
lunatics a ton of poisons.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Like the people who like wrangle alligators for a living lunatic.
What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (36:29):
I'm like, Clay, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Have you watched the Netflix documentary about the girl who
like just swims with great white sharks?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
I have not as good.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
What's it called? Uh?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Girl something like that?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Is it a new blue? Is it a new one
in the Swedish? Like? Uh? The girl who kisses dead spiders,
the girl who wears venomous leotard, It's called.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Shark whisperers, shark whispers. She dives with like bull sharks
and tiger sharks and great whites and stuff. If her
name is Ocean Ramsey, her name is Ocean, which I think?

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Is she fairly different? Uh?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
She's different? Kay?

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Okay dever Broncos offense, Yeah, that appears to be uh
to be working in the opposite side in the red
zone and we see another you know he has had
a big day to day. Evan Ingram, who played over
ten snaps in the opening preseason game. Is what one target?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
He had one target, no reception, no receptions.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
You can tell that he has come out and Sean
and the scripting of practice today has been very intentional
to get him involved.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Week two in the preseason in that vein. Who are
the offensive skill position players that you need to see
against Arizona have a like concerted effort to feature them? Right?
We obviously saw in week one against the forty nine
ers that like the running backs heavily featured. Yep, that
you find a way to script Pat Bran into the

(38:00):
third down offense, right if you want him to be
a safety blanket for bow Nicks, script him into the
third down situations. Who are the players that you must
see scripted into the offense?

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Marvini, I want to see it. I want to see it.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
On Thursday they saw like a bubble screen games and
that was basically.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah, I want to see it. Thursday at practice in
the joint practice against the Arizona Cardinals, Devon val continue
like I see the arrow trending back up on Devon
Vley after what had been an offseason hampered by injury,
in a training camp beginning that was was less than impressive,
less than stellar. Evan Ingram Man Evan Ingram is a

(38:36):
guy that you know, at least in the joint practice,
your two new offensive acquisitions that are veterans JK Dobbins
and Evan Ingram. Yeah, I want to see what they're
capable of.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Do you want Dobbins in a preseason game?

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Preseason practice?

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Okay, so in joint practices, pads are on, Cardinals are here.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
We're out. I want to see those two players look
like they are a huge piece of what is going
to give you the the the juice to have the
next right step offensively because you added two veteran players
and positions that were just below the line last year.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
But you're comfortable with having Evan Ingram in game situations.
You measure two guys that you you are.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
I'm talking about. I'm talking about practice, right, So the
joint practice.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Would you want to see Evan Ingram in week two
of the preseason.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
I don't care. I don't care about that. I care
about the practice me personally, because this is gonna be
in front of the Broncos media, the Broncos fan base
to a certain extent. Yeah, I want to I want
to see. I want to see Evan Ingram and JK
do some things.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
The other player that I am I'm looking at on
the defensive side. You know who I want to see
not in a nickel position. I want to watch I
want to watch Jade Barron on the outside.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
I don't know if you're going to see it.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
I want to see it, right because if he's going
to be the player that like allows you to so
again he's he's soon versatile, you're obviously going to see him.
I think he's going to be your starting nickel throughout
the entire season.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
I think you said that's a real competition that's happening.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
It is a true competition. But if we get to
the point where, right we've been talking about the contracts
with bow Nicks and Nick Benito, and when you go
and pay those edge rushers and you pay those quarterbacks,
you eventually have to you have to clip off other
pieces of the team. I think one of those pieces
would be your incredible depth in the secondary. So let's

(40:29):
say Riley Moss prices himself out of Denver in the future,
you have you not drafted his replacement with John A. Barron.
I do want to see what he can do on
the outside. If it's a preseason game.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, I just think that in the modern National Football League,
you draft a nickel as high as the first round
as high as pick twenty to be the starting nickel.
Not to say that their their position designation from the
combine is cornerback, but in reality, you're not drafting a cornerback.

(41:01):
He is a He is a nickel, and he's competing
to be your starting nickel, which is a part of
your base defensive package that is not a sub package anymore.
The NFL is a ton of eleven personnel, a ton
of just one wide, one tight end I said, white
tight end, one tight end, and three wide receivers. And
then he's also versatile enough to play some dime linebacker

(41:24):
if you will, because he showed that he's physical enough
to handle the box even in an NFL preseason game.
He showed that he doesn't give up those leaky yards
when he makes contact.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
You know, it would be really fun to watch him
or who is going to be fun to watch him
against on Thursday, Trey McBride, good call. Do you ever
are you think you're gonna get that matchup or if
you're John Payton trying to force that matchup. Yes, here's
go show me what you can do in a practice
scenario against one of the top is trade McBride a
top three, top five tight end in the game right now.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Basically, yes, showed me season last year.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Is one that's actually my my most exciting matchup.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
It's uh, it's.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Either him or it's like Marvin Harrison against patstan Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I want to see Marvin Harrison versus Patzertan. I've heard
good things about him this training camp. He was a
bit of underwhelming last year.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Super underwhelming. Yeah, you know, kind of the you know,
fortieth fiftieth best wide receiver in the league last year,
didn't really take off, wasn't completely healthy. That. That's a
very interesting matchup coming up on Thursday. But the one
that I really want to see, it's gonna be Jade
Baron and Trade McBride.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
What about Uh, who's the who's the Could you name
a player from the Cardinals defense right now?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
No? No, I can't, no shot.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
It's a bit of a no name defensive unit, is
it not.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
I don't think I can find it.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
If I had to take a guess. What about Buddha Baker.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Is Budda Baker a Cardinal? Really?

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
I don't know if he's I don't see him on
the depth sto. Oh he is, Yeah, he's starting.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Remember the draft, the draft pick from Ole Miss Walter Nolan.
The third is Will Johnson. The corner is that the
is that Michigan corner, Will Johnson. Yep, Will Johnson.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Kalay Campbell still in the league, still rocking.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Man? Is he that?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Dude's gotta be like thirty six thirty seven has to
be as an older player. Dude, he's thirty four, he's forty.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Kay's thirty eight, thirty eight, damn man, but we'll be
thirty nine during this season. Good for him making the
money when you can broad test purposes. Is a forty
year old?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
All right, that's gonna do it for us today for
coach Mike Sandford, kJ behind the glass, Cole Smith keeping
us on the air today, appreciate you don't go anywhere.
PhD's got live podiums. Reaction from what we're watching today
during camp is Will Let's drills the field goal from
let's call it thirty eight yards. We'll talk to you
guys tomorrow morning live from Broncos Park at ten am.

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