08-13-25 Hour 1 - 2025 Broncos vs 2009 Saints/Condensed Playcalling for Bo Nix/Shohei Ohtani Lawsuit
August 13, 2025 • 42 mins
0:00 - Broncos are on their way to being Super Bowl contenders but how close are they to the 2009 and 2011 Saints? Coach and Raj go down memory lane to properly explain where we are with this Broncos team.
11:12 - Coach and Raj discuss why Sean Payton has condensed the playcalling for Bo Nix. Coach breaks down the history of how playcalling has changed at each level and how QBs are receiving information.
29:53 - The guys give you a training camp update and discuss the Shohei saga that's looming again.
11:12 - Coach and Raj discuss why Sean Payton has condensed the playcalling for Bo Nix. Coach breaks down the history of how playcalling has changed at each level and how QBs are receiving information.
29:53 - The guys give you a training camp update and discuss the Shohei saga that's looming again.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Which roster comes into your head first when you can
compare what this one is.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Eleven was special?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Say nine, say nine?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Nine? Nine did it? I think eleven might have been
one of the better teams.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
And then but nine did it?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Coach say it?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Nine did it?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Six was tough?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Does it remind you of nine at all?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, there's some similarities because here's what happened in nine.
There were some veteran free agents that arrived in key
positions already with a young, talented draft class. And it
wasn't just the young veteran additions. It was like the uh,
(01:00):
the juju they brought, the leadership, like when you're around
Funga and Greenlaw.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Like it oft believe you have them. Like when I
saw them, I'm like, I can't believe. Preseason game, I'm like,
how did you get them? It's so insane to think
about that.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
They bring something very intentional and it's very serious, and
it's very and like and so the the better teams
that we've ever been a part of, have all taken
over and run themselves, and this is one that can
do that.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Sean Payton yesterday with Kay Adams talking about the similarities
to his former teams in New Orleans, not necessarily that
two thousand and nine championship team flow down a little
bit there, Kay or not. I wouldn't say Ky slow down.
The other people who were quote tweeting it throughout the
day being like, Sean Payton thinks they're the two thousand
and nine Saints and Kay was like, chill out, it's
actually the twenty eleven team that he was really saying
(01:55):
that they had similarities to the one that went thirteen
and three and then lost in the second out of
the playoffs too. Jim Harbaugh San Francisco forty nine ers,
got it.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I didn't realize that Harbaugh was coaching forty nine ers
in twenty eleven. That's a long time ago. YEP.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That Divisional round game was a thirty six to thirty
two final. Vernon Davis, with nine seconds to go, catches
a fourteen yard touchdown pass from Alex Smith to retake
the lead after the Saints had a sixty six yard
touchdown from Drew Brees to Jimmy Graham to take the
lead with one thirty seven to go in the fourth.
It was a heartbreaker for the Saints that year. But
(02:33):
Sean would he would wax on about his team and
how they do have similarities here and it's namely those
veteran offseason acquisitions on this vaunted likely number one defense
in the world.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
We do have to work a little bit with the
Illinois native. Sean Payton, on his Polynesian pronunciations, called him
like halfanga halffunga. It's talanoa hufonga. It's not. It's not huffunga.
That sounds like some type of disease that you need penicillin.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Board I think they call huff is what I've heard of.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Tally tally, tally, hoofunga.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Hoof, hoof, hoof, like the hoof, right you have, I
want an ud over that you please give me a
hoof give me.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Broncos are back out here. It's gonna be smoky, gosh,
it might be tough to breeze. They've got the uppers on,
but no bottoms today. So not a fully padded practice
like we were kind of anticipating.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Do you remember a year ago, right, Yeah, So we
do have uppers. So this is this gear for everybody
vic these are this is called shells. So shells in
the football vernacular is when you have real shoulder pads on,
not the spiders.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Which is what we were in yesterday.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
You have helmets. So that's the shah and the L.
It's for shoulder pad helmet, shoulder pad helmet and then
shorts that shells. Shells is not helmets only. That's helmets.
That's just helmets. Like I'm today, we have a so
my team has a scrimmage tomorrow night. Tonight, we're in
helmets only. It's it. So today's gonna be a good day.
(04:13):
When you have shells, en Raj, it gives you the
opportunity to have inside run. It gives you the opportunity
to to be physical. Obviously you're not gonna live tackle
and go to the ground, but there are opportunities for
you to be physical. And that's what today is gonna be.
And I'm looking forward today. It's interesting last year at
this time, the Green Bay Packers were coming into town
(04:34):
for the joint practice. That was a team that essentially
plays and trains at sea level. The Arizona Cardinals. You
realize that that's the second highest altitude National Football League team,
not Vegas. I think it's Arizona.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, yeah, I did not know that offhand. I thought
Vegas would have been right after the Broncos. There, Coach,
you have something in your hand here that Vic and
Mose were going crazy at.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
It's the reason that our ten o'clock program started at
ten oh five.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It sure is we were on time. Today. We're gonna
go through some of your play calls from the was
this the twenty.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
PAC twelve Championship game Saturday December seventh, twenty thirteen, the
Stanford Cardinal versus the Arizona State Sun Devils.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And the reason why you have this today is because
while Sean Payton, who's about nine feet to our east
right now, was talking with Kay Adams and how he
is typically in his offense. It is a it's a
long drawn out, really convoluted play.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
So let's give you a quick example.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Let's hear a.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Tiny little preview here of the old West Coast vernacular
that we used back in the day at Stanford. All right,
let's go green warp. So this is out of you personnel,
give me Green right West Nasty X short ninety five
will Badger kill Nomo ninety six, Power King Alert Nomo
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ninety seven, Chicago Water. That's one play call.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You said no motion twice.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yep, that's what it is. That's about fantastic. That's about
all I do. So that means that you started with emotion.
But if you kill because of a look to the
second call, we're gonna leave the X in the position
and not motion them.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Walk me through that full play call that you just
had as if I'm green.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
So Green right west, nasty X short, this is gonna
be two tight ends a full back end of tailback's
only one wide receiver Green right west Nasty would put
the Y and the V tight end to the right
in a wing alignment tight end in line wing alignment
to the right. Full back in green is dead eye
behind the quarterback IE formation football tailback is dotted behind
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the full back at seven yards toes at seven and
then the you have the X is opposite the receiver.
So that at that time that would have been gosh,
that was probably Doug Baldwin playing X for us in
twenty two personnel. The X was opposite and the X
short would imply that we are going to short motion
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our receiver down and the play call was ninety five
will badger. Okay, that's an inside ISO play to the
open side, away from the Y and the wing. Okay,
the Y and the and the U to the right side.
If you were to get boundary rotation, meaning the safety
comes down and becomes in an unblockable position where the
X short motion can't dig out that safety he's at
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linebacker depth, then guess what we were doing. We were
gonna kill it to no motion. We're gonna keep the second.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So this is the second part of the play call.
If a quarterback at the line of scrimmage or if
an offensive coordinator sees that they're going to kill the play,
this is the second play call that you're giving them.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
The second play call in huddle. Okay, So if he
likes the first play call and we have a two
high safety structure, you play call ends there essentially, Well
we yeah, So at the line of scrimmage, hey, let
it roll, let it roll, let it roll. Then the
kill no mo six king gone doesn't matter. And then
the alert shoot, I don't even know what the alert
was on this, get right here, no twelve years ago.
(08:00):
So if you saw boundary rotation in the boundary safety
in an unblockable position to be able to run weak io,
you were gonna kill the play. And so at the
line of scrimmage, Hey, here we go, kill kill kill.
Everybody then communicates, hey six king six kingo's trade tray tray.
Fullbacks got a new track. Tailbacks got a new track.
(08:21):
And now you're running. You're running power, which is backside
guards pulling. You're getting double teams at the point of
attack on the play side. Full back's kicking out the
n man on line of scrimmage. It's a ballplayer ran
yesterday at practice, not to my liking. I was not happy.
I screamed at everybody. Put in an old school, you know,
kind of a throwback we'll call it twenty ten Stanford
(08:42):
football type of formation. The boys didn't execute it. They
looked like they'd been living their entire life and in
spread seven on seven's And I said, you know what,
take something.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Friday night world.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
No, no, you're not. You know what we do. We
run the football coach.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Why do you have this in your hand today? Why
did we just go through a play call that I
understood six words of.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
He actually did pretty well.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, I was impressed. The Nomo piece was impressed. The
signal for Nomo had something to do with the former
La Dodger Adeo Nomo when we had it signaled.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
A Japanese thrower who's not embroiled in off season is
or off field issues, much like the current La Dodger
Japanese star.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
The demo with a very or unorthodox patient was a
delight towards a lot of fun. So the reason I
pulled this out is because I was surfing the world
Wide Interweb last night and I saw the Kay Adams
and Sean Payton hit, which was fantastic. Kay Adams always
doing great work, just gets way more out of all
the players and coaches than for some reason than myself
(09:45):
Vick Lombardi. I can't understand why they get why Kay
Adams gets more out of these athletes than U Raj.
Just they open up, they're they're they're more candid. But
Sean Payton was able to talk about, uh, the impact
of Bo Nicks on the vernacular his current offense, and
it Bo does come from a background where maybe some
of these play calls like green right ninety five week.
(10:07):
Maybe that just is just simply Willie Hey, Willy, Willie,
Willie Willie instead of saying green right ninety five week.
You can all compromise, you can compact it down into
one word. And that's something that Sean Payton has been
not just open to, but he talked about. There is
a massive difference.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
We'll get into some of that audio on the other side.
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Speaker 3 (11:14):
In the well, it's it's it's he's got say in
how we put it together. But we put it together
in a way where instead of calling twenty two flanker drive,
half back burst, you know, we might just call it uber.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh okay, he's a driver.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And and so then being able to get to the
line of scrimmage and use one word, these players are
are operating and thinking differently and more spontaneously.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Coach, I want to ask you the simplification as we
heard once again Sean Payton talking with Kay Adams regarding
the simpleification of his play calls, which is again the
reason why you have this play sheet in front of
you is because the vernacular from this Stanford Arizona Stake
game that you called in twenty thirteen and was that
the PAC twelve championship game, is well, it's the same
(12:13):
vernacular as Sean Payton uses in his offenses. I understand
why they have boiled it down to one and two
word play calls. Now because this seems ridiculous. Why did
it take until now?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
God, that's a good question. So the West Coast offense
goes back to Paul Brown, one of the founding forefathers
of the modern passing offense, of which Don Coriel split
and took it one direction. Bill Walsh, the West Father.
Though Don Coriel man air Coriel, Vic Lombardi knows a
little thing or two about Dan Fouts running air Coriel's system.
(12:49):
Those are the two main systems that the National Football
League even to this date, really come from that foundation.
The ironically, the the Don Corriel system called all routes
as numbers. So the route tree, if you heard of
the route tree, nine is a go route and eight
is a post route, at seven is a corner route,
(13:10):
at six is a digger out. A five I don't
even know what five is. A four is a curl.
I've never lived in the route tree world, but I
know it just loosely from drawing cards up and stuff
at practice for scout teams on the West Coast offense,
it was about words and labeling and being exact with
(13:33):
your details of how you label things. You tell the receiver,
the tight end, the full back, the tailback in the
play call, every single little thing about where to align,
how to motion, where to motion too. I mean, it
was overly descripts. It's almost as if you were telling
a story. And I have a tendency to do this,
probably because I come from a West Coast to offensive background.
(13:54):
But when you tell a story and you'd give too
many details.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's not the rules seven and drunken white. It's not
needless words. That's not what it is.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
So for example, I'm gonna give you this so Sean
Payton's world, and I'll go through my own personal evolution
of having coached in the very verbose and lengthy West
Coast offensive play call to now coaching in a high
school offense that does a lot of the same concepts
but compacted the verbiage by a lot. Okay, So, for example,
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what we used to call at Stanford the personnel group
would be Zebra juice Davis. That's just a who's on
the field, Zebra juice Davis. The play call gun double right,
flex cross three jets scat Florida kill two Jet scat
Alert two hundred jet Griffin. Do you want to know
what that play call is? Now? Cloud? Why it's cloud. Literally,
(14:50):
the word is cloud for all that Zebra Juice, Davis,
Gun double right, flex Cross three jets scats. See, I
can get on kill two Jet Scat Alert two hundred
Jet Griffin. Nope, Cloud.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I can get on board with Cloud because I can
see that play drawn up, and I'm sure that they've
got you know, you've got animated versions of these plays
and obviously you've got uh, there's seven hundred cameras out
here when you go through walkthroughs. You obviously get that
in your team meetings directly after practice. You can bring
it home on the iPad when you're done with that
day at camp. I can take Cloud and go Cloud
(15:22):
means what I just watched on the television screen. Yep,
that makes sense to me. It doesn't you know what,
who else it makes sense to bon NICKX. This generation,
this generation, they they don't this. This is not a
long winded sit around a campfire and tell long stories.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Generation.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Oh is this your yell at clouds? TikTok rant you're
about to go?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
I like Cloud? Okay, Cloud is a play. I love Cloud.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Cloud is a play.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
So why would I yell it set cloud? That would
be asinine to yell at cloud, bon Nix and the generation,
even though I mean Bonix appears to be a bit
of an old soul, but this generation is a digital generation. Man,
what used to be a long form text message to
say I am really pissed off right now, all you
(16:06):
have to go is search the emojis and and that's
that sentence. It comes across with a with the explotive.
It'd be question mark, the ampersand the uh ex and
it's it's an emoji covering the mouth with a bunch
of explatives. That's that's how this generation communicates, simplified in
(16:27):
little bits, even in visuals. The emoji generation is is
is incredibly compact to where it used to be. Like
I get a text from my daughter now, who's fifteen
years old. I have no idea what it means because
there's like there's like three letters on there that that
supposedly it means something, and I just say in in
(16:48):
old People, English Police, and then she puts it in
West Coast offensive Vernaca.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
She walks you through, every motion, she walks you through, Hey,
if I'm not home at this time, this is where
I'm gonna be, don't call me. Ask mom. That's what
Peyton says.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
She gives me a little X reset to green left
deuce neck. That means ogre wash ninety seven f slide
alert ninety for wheezy.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I'm going to Sarah's house. If I'm not there, we're
at Pinkberry and that.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
The original text was t f y huh what what
does that mean? Where are you? Are you alive? Sean?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And is post practice? Presser was talking about, you know,
two thousand and nine and twenty eleven, those two great
teams as a dodge getting stung by a bee for
the third time in a row. Every single year, I
get stung by a wasp at this godforsaken training camp.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Still have a job though, right sure, Still alive, Still alive,
still married, he's still happy, Got a kid on the way,
got a kid on the way. Get open, man, keep
getting stuck.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Keep getting Yeah, that's an annuals that's last year's.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
You're still there. You have a scar. I have a
scar from it? How about I'm not. I don't want
to throw this into the universe, but I'm going to.
I've never been stung by a beeror wasp in my life.
Oh I hope you never do. It's just weird. It's
just oh my god, it's just as much as I
am outside.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
The worst was the worst wasp sting. And I'll get
back into two thousand and nine and twenty eleven Saints
here in a couple of seconds. The worst wasps wasp
sting I ever had. I was coaching a hockey camp
during the summer, and we had the kids outside for
their lunch hour, and they'll get like thirty minutes to eat,
and then we have thirty minutes of like either a
game that we're playing or running through like Calistenics and
(18:28):
sprints outside. I took my shoes off because well, it's
summer and it's beautiful and I want to be Brent
Burns and hang out without shoes. Friend of the program,
Friend of the program, running.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Over good friend of the program.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I stepped on what I thought was like a goat
head or a burr and looked down on my foot
and it's a massive hornets stinger sticking out of my foot.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
So are their degrees of worst? Stings like that hurt more,
but they.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Ornets have always been worse for me. But I pulled
the thing out. I thought I was fine. I put
my skates back on to go for the next three
hours of summer camp coaching these kids, I had to
cut my boot off. I could not take my foot
out of my boot. At the end of the day,
my foot had swollen so much. I spent eight hundred
dollars on new skates the next day because I stepped
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on a damn wasp.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Are you allergic to?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Probably, It's not like I'm carrying around an EpiPen, although
in the fact that you're still have a slight bit
of inflammation from a year ago is probably not great.
Probably I should probably carry around an EpiPen. That's one
thing I've always wanted to do, like anytime that I've
got a buddy, who I've got a buddy was like
deathly allergic to like eggs, which is brutal for him
(19:41):
because like everything has eggs in it. I have always
always held if you eat an egg, I get to
stab you in the chest with the EpiPen. I've always
wanted to do that.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Like do you have like like through the heart? Cand
that kill you?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well? Through the heart?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Is it? The EpiPen supposed to go like in a thigh?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
But can I do it to the op so side.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Can I do it here?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Is that gonna have right pectoral this side yards on
that side?
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Unless your buddy's got massive man boobs, I think I
could potentially puncture a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
That's no fun to do. I just want to, like
Kalima down into the middle of your chest. I've always
wanted to do that.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
What is that? Is that? Vampires or what's kat lima?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Indiana Jones baby rips his heart out of the cessat film.
I'm dating myself, not you. You're the older one. You
should know Indy. Okay, these these two thousand and nine
and twenty eleven comparisons that Sean was making with with
Kay Adams yesterday, and does this team have any similarities
to well, the championship team in nine. Sean said, yeah,
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you can. You can feel it. There's some veteran acquisitions
that came in in the offseason of two thousand and eight.
You get Malcolm Jenkins in the first round as a
free safety. You could you could liken Malcolm Jenkins Barrett
a little bit, not necessarily the same exact player, but
you bring in Darren Sharper, one of the hottest hitting
safeties in the league, coming over from Green Bay that year,
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while not the same position. Speaking of energy and force
and Captain of your defense, Darren Sharper is your Dre
green Law. He is your talanoa Hufanga. Breaking news from Shams.
The Carolina Hurricanes owner Tom Dundon has agreed to buy
the Portland Trailblazers for the estate of Paul Allen for
(21:29):
the valuation of four billion dollars. So the Portland Trailblazers
the latest franchise in the Major Four to be sold
for a wild amount of money. The Blazers four billion
to Carolina Hurricanes owner Tom Dundon.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Could you have two professional franchises that you own that
are further tests from not really?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You sure can't.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
I don't know. Kronkeys could be You can technically be
the owner of the Seattle Seahawks and also, like the
Miami Heat.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
The Kronkeys have the l a rams. They also have
like don't they have arsenal? That's pretty far away. That's
a continent and an ocean.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yeah, that's a lot, it's quite a bit. It's an
it's one of the largest continents play. I mean, yeah,
that's a that's a long ways.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Is it too much for me to think that the
Darren Sharper type of acquisition that transformed the Saints from
a good team a great game. Is that the same thing.
Is it too much to just go, well, we had
this guy, and we also brought in a hard hitting
safety that feels like he's the the energy driver on
this year's team. Is it? Is it too elementary to go,
(22:35):
oh yeah, that's that's the reason why they're gonna jump
from getting beat thirty one to seven to competing for them.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
For one second, think that Sean Payton doesn't look back
at the the off season of movement, the off season
of who they took in two thousand and nine and
truly went out of his way to play his role
in making it feel like two thousand and nine. Again, dude,
(23:05):
we coaches are We're incredibly superstitious. We also just liken
success with a particular year of scripting how we did
practice and you like, that's a greatest hits album right there.
That's my best greatest hits album was that year of scripting.
That was also my greatest hits album of adding different
(23:25):
types of players to to a roster. I think that
you bring up a really good point man that you
will go out in your first round pick and you
get a kind of a luxury defensive back. Yes, same
thing happened in New Orleans in two thousand and nine. Yes,
you go out and get a presence, like established presence
(23:49):
as a safety that is a he is he is
a bad he's a bad mammage. Emma, He's a dude
that in romes. He'll hit you, he'll get his hands
on footballs. That was Darren Sharper, and he was an
established fed and he had done it, and he brought
a level of veteran leadership too. At the New Orleans Saints,
a young core that was growing and building together, and
(24:11):
then all of a sudden, you accelerate that growth by
bringing that kind of a player to the team. And
I don't know who we would have maybe for Drake
Greenlaw in terms of I don't know if there's a
two thousand and nine compart even a twenty eleven comp
for bringing a linebacker. What's my guy? Is it? Is it? Davis?
I always forget the guy's name. The linebacker's still playing
that Sean Payton brought into the Saints organization.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Oh, I know what you're talking about. I don't know
his first name though, Tomorrow Davis kJ that's exactly.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I don't think he was certainly not played. He didn't
play on the twenty nineteen, but no. But I think
I think that Sewan has already even mentioned that Drake
Greenlaw has the feeling of the Mario Davis in terms
of his presence, in terms of his vocal leadership.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
You know who the linebacker is? Who is Jonathan Wilma.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Oh, that's right, from established from you don't in Miami,
established veteran jet comes over. Not in the two year
did he come in.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
He came over the year previous.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It wasn't the two thousand and eight offseason. He was
the two thousand and seven offseason, so still relatively new.
But your linebacker addition to be the mouthpiece of that
of that linebacking corps, right along with the guy behind
him and Darren Sharper was Jonathan film Filma was a
freak great player, and he had a season ending knee
injury the year before he got to New Orleans. Like,
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the parallels are crazy.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
It and the parallels are probably slightly intentional rage. That's
my point is that as a head coach and a
guy that's very involved in every single decision you do.
Go back to your greatest hits. I as a coach,
go back to my greatest hits. Hey, what did I
do that? Gosh? I remember that we had a bye
week that year. We handled it really well and we
played awesome coming off that. Buy. I'm gonna go back
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and look at this schedule. I'm gonna replicate that schedule
or this thing. Hey, the whole year was awesome. You
know what I learned though by doing that a lot
of times for me recreating the twenty fourteen Boise State
season where we led basically every offensive statistical category, where
Jayji just ran rough shot over everybody and anybody, where
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we won a Fiesta Bowl, and we ended up having
future NFL players like Brett Rippin and I already mentioned
Jji and DeMarcus Lawrence really good players. When I tried
to replicate that elsewhere and it didn't work, it made
you realize there's no two teams that are creating.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You can't replicate the entire thing. But I don't think
it is I don't think it's something that you should
hold against Sean Payton.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
For It's there's a roadmap there's a roadmap, and you
want to continue to follow a similar roadmap.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And again the parallels are here that it happens in
the same position group. If the Broncos had already had
the established like captain of the mid or of the
linebacking corps, and the captain of your defense in terms
of how physical you want to play, and that's how
we're talking about Whufonga and green Law. If you already
had those, your veteran editions would have come elsewhere. Your
veteran editions would have come at wide receiver. Maybe you
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would have gone a little bit harder for a guy
like DeVante Adams, right he was available, Maybe you go
harder for that player. But well, you didn't necessarily have
that need on this team. I see the parallels. The
two thousand and eight Saints team. It's like that they
didn't make the playoffs. Man, they were eight and eight.
They need to win the final game of the season.
It's Carolina that year they lost eight and eight, don't
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make the playoffs. Two thousand and nine, they make it,
they win it. Crazier things have happened than the Broncos
losing thirty one to seven in the first round of
Buffalo and then making it the next year when they
look better. They do. It's that simple.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I I one did. They caught my eye right before
practice began, and Sean Payton was was lingering over here
with the with the local media muggles, and he was
also spending he spent a good deal of time talking
with court and Sutton, talking through some routes. It looked
like he was I'm a bit of a bit of
a body language reader, and it was almost like, hey man,
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you got a pretty good bag. It's done to step up, man, Like,
That's what I kind of read. And if you don't
think coaches don't do that, then you're wrong. They do that.
Coaches do that like, hey, I've taken care of you
even in like at various levels, college level, We got
you that nil deal. Man, It's time for you to
make good on your side.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Have you found though, that Courtland Sutton is one of
the guys who is holding back.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
No, no, it's not holding back. I mean if he
catches that first pass, okay, we're having a great season.
Games we're having because he catches that perfect pass from Bonnicks.
Bone Nicks is now two for two with a great
completion to Troy Franklin on an RPO hitch that got
nine yards. That that ball down the field is probably
what twenty four to twenty six yards. You're two for
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two now for more yards than you ended up throwing
for in eleven attempts.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Even if you punt in those next.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Ten, you're probably going to right because you're rolling likely
those in rhythm and it feels completely different.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It's funny Sean you mentioned he was talking with Courtland.
They were talking through this exact ball that the wide
receivers are going up. It's this short, little five yard
I fade in red zone fad, red zone fade. This
is the exact ball that Sean was talking with Courtland about.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah, and he was. He was actually Sean was demonstrating
the exact release of it. You know, this kind of
shave release where you get them with and then you
get your your verticality back so you don't drift into
the sideline.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You think Sean Payton saw the the reports out of
Las Vegas and how Pete Carroll was stepping into a
defensive scrum to stop it and went, hey, hey.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
It appears that we have unfortunately lost the guys down
at camp. So we're going to go ahead and take
a time out here, and we just want to say
thank you guys so much for listening right here on
out the two Sports Radio in ninety five.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
The super Bowl kind of goes without having to say it.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
You know, we're all working for that goal and you
can just kind of see and demeanors of guys and
by the by the way guys show up is that
that is our goal and uh, we don't really have
to talk about it. We can just go out there
and be about it and practice and uh practice hard
and that's just gonna make each other better. And you
never know, we could go out there and have a
great season, could go out there and have to grow
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and learn a lot. But we're definitely gonna be trying.
We're definitely gonna work really hard at it.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Bo Nick's talking about Super Bowl expectations with the Broncos
and having that be part of the the goal this
year for the twenty twenty five version. As we're live
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the text line today going through route progressions with the
wide receivers, I bet you were probably ten minutes away
from a first team activity.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Yep, about ten to fifteen. I think today's gonna be
a spirited red zone emphasis practice, a little bit of
goal line. Probably end up seeing a lot of goal
line walk through the fact that you're not in full pads.
You'd want to take away the banging on the lower half.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
How does welcoming in a second practice opponent in Arizona
tomorrow here at the very place that we're standing right now,
how does that impact what you do at practice today?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
It's a great question. So this is a bit of
a new occurrence here in the National Football League where
you're now seeing more joint practices two in a season
where you used to pretty much and with a lot
of frequency. See one. I remember when my dad was
coaching at the San Diego Chargers, well when they had
six preseason games, well there was a lot of preseason games,
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but even then, the Miami Dolphins came out and there
was a joint practice. It was like four days worth
of joint practice they were. I mean, it just felt
like they were there the entire week. I'm like, did
they take the train? They had to stay here for
extra time to make sure that trip was valuable enough
for them. Uh yeah, this is uh this, I think
this is a good thing. I like, I like the
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two practice uh model of against two opponents to have
those joint practices and clearly all these things that I
didn't Roger, I didn't even realize this until recently, that
the modern joint practice and or modern preseason game are
all cross division. Is that is that correct? Like conference
cross conference? Does anybody play AFC versus AFC or NFC
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versus NFC top.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Of my head, I don't think so. I believe they
try and keep them as far away as possible.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Trying to make sure that you don't practice together, know
each other's verbiage to a certain degree, and then potentially
play each other in the first round of the playoffs
like that would be fairly recent. If you're in the
wild card round as supposed, If you're in Super Bowl, Hey,
all bets are off. You're in the Dad Gup super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, how many things that you're installing on you know,
August thirteenth, they're gonna.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Be relevant at that point in time. Yeah, it's not
not gonna have.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
If there's one, like, hats off to you. If there's
one play that you go, hey, we saw remember that
Thursday at ninety eight degree smoky Thursday when we were
in Denver.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
You remember that play. I'll tell you what that smoke is.
Something else. It's heavy on the old lungs.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Speaking of Super Bowl contenders, the Buffalo Bills have agreed
to a four year, forty eight million dollar contract extension
with running back James Cook. So his holdout ends twelve
million dollars on average, brings Cook up into that upper
threshold of running backs in the league. I think twelve
is a really solid number for that player. Like it's
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not it's not Saquon, it's not Christian McCaffrey, but that
gets him into the top five. He's up there with
Alvin Kamara and Josh Jacobs and just under the Jonathan Taylor.
That is the running back that James Cook is at
this point in his career.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
It sure is. That's the that's the right number. You're
not putting him in the spot where he's you know,
a big, big money guy, top three money guy. Where
does he getend up at seven?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
On average? He ends up one, two, three, four, five six, seven,
tied for seventh.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Tide for seventh. Which is a good deal for a
for a player, probably a pretty team friendly deal based
off of what James Cook and his representation were originally desiring.
His value is real. All you gotta do is go
back to the Broncos playoff game against the Bills and say,
who is the player that impacted that game the most.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
James is a difference maker.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
It's really good.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
And again that's the reason why you didn't allow anyone
from the interior defensive line to go away. As Bo
launches a ball deep, de Troy Franklin hangs on to
that thing at the end of the or at the
back end of the end zone about about forty five
forty yards in the air or something like that.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
I can I can actually just hear one of my
fellow colleagues, former colleagues, a guy named Junior Adams who's
now the wide receiver coach of the Dallas Cowboys, dealing
with Ceedee Lamon George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
He was, I mean, that's good talent. I know it
too big and big personality, but still is awesome.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
The reason I bring up Junior Adams and watching Troy
Franklin catch a ball. Junior Adams was my wide receiver
coach at Boise State, my wide wide receiver coach at
Western Kentucky. He was also Troy Franklin's wide receiver coach
at the University of Oregon for at least two years
of his career there. And he always used to say,
and he had a little junior eyes, had a little
tiny like lisp, little mini lisp. He'd be like, hey,
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don't let the ball cross your ad when so, when
you're catching a football and it's like a go route,
did you notice where he where he? Where did he?
Where were his hands when he caught the ball above?
His eyes are below his.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Eyes, right shoulder above the eyes.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
That was actually below the eyes. Oh, so, so you
you don't want that ball like, so you want to
keep your hands if you if you have the ability
to high enough that you your eyes can track that
ball into your into your hands as opposed to letting
your hands be.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Below your eye, left hands above the eyes.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Well, he didn't do it. He he had low hands
and I could imagine, I could imagine Junior Adams being like, hey, Troy,
that's why you drop a couple of balls, because you
keep your you gotta keep the you gotta keep your
hands above your ass.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's such a minute change in how you go about
catching a football, and it matters that much.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Oh, it matters a ton. It's always about hand position
relative to your eyes. Critical, absolutely critical. Like that's why
you always hear people will get you, know, when you're
screaming at the television when there's a drop. I always say, dude,
you gotta shoot high hands there, because truly, there is
a thing when you're tracking a ball and and your
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hands are below, you're not gonna see it in all
the way and down into your eyes. Whereas if your
hands are high, you're gonna see that football, and then
your eyes are just naturally gonna go to that spot
where your hands are catching the football. The percentages of
catching that ball are so much higher.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Makes sense.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I Troy Franklin caught that ball, and he caught it,
but it's a little bit of a tiny mini double catch.
His hands were low on a on a post route,
and I just want to be like Troy.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Where it's not secure in the hands, it's secure on
the chest.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Yes, Troy Hi, your hands, don't let the ball, They'll
let the ball cross your eyes.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Coach, you've been uh following this sho heo Tani story
with what is going on with the most important player
in a sport that desperately needs a star. So he's
coming off of his interpreter stealing millions and millions of dollars.
Like his interpreter racked up like one hundred and eighty
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one million dollars of bets over the course of two years.
He had nineteen thousand bets across two years at one
hundred and eighty million. Now he won a bunch of
those bets. He also lost a ton and stole like
twenty million from show Hey that has now gone away.
The interpreters in jail and paying for the crimes of
you know, stealing money and I'm I'm sure evading you know,
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winnings taxes and all that crap. I don't know how
it actually went down, but sho Hey is now back
in the public eye because apparently he and his team
have like sabotaged a two hundred and forty million dollar
real estate project in Hawaii. It is something going on
with him or is he just one of those players
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that he's just he's got. He's got a bunch of
dudes around him there trying to get a piece of
the pie, and they happen to be way shadier.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
What I will say, and this is going to be
a very a massive over generalization. I spent a lot
of time in Japan, knowing the way the ethos of
business in Japan, and I know every country has its issues,
but man, it's rare being in Japan. Like so many
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things with Japanese business and the Japanese culture is extreme
levels of detail, extreme levels of professionalism. So it surprises
me that a player, and frankly a Japanese citizen, arguably
right now the most significant citizen of Japan, yeah, has
been aple to fall prey to such bad people surrounding him.
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It's wild.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
This is a guy who could this year become the
first three time MVP or three straight MVP winner in
MLB history. Now, there's been some players who have gotten
very very close to that, like Bonds won three and
four show hey, I believe has already won three m
vps in four years. He had one of them Uh
(39:26):
that I think it was two years ago that he
didn't win one. DiMaggio has multiple or has three or
more MVPs, but none, uh consecutive. Jimmy Fox had multiple
MVPs but didn't have three consecutive Yogi Berra, Roy Campanella,
Mickey mannl Stan Musial. Bonds has seven MVPs but did
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not win three straight show. He is on the verge
of winning three straight and now he's embroiled in this
type of of controversy yet again. Now, I don't think
any these things gonna happen about I like there nothing
leads me to believe that like Otani is a bad dude.
And if he is, I heard Brett saying this earlier.
Is he do too big of a star to allow
a downfall? That's a third of his contract?
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Wow, when you think of it that way, that.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Is, Barry Bonds is too big of a star to
let fail. Right, Everyone knew that dude was on steroids.
Everyone saw his.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Name, which was a bit different because everybody was the
sport was tainted at the time. But still this is
a little bit more of an isolated but still.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
He was the number one star, the biggest star in
that sport when it was booming. You everybody knew.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
You all started dealing with Wow, there was some shadiness
with Bonds and the business dealings with Victor Kanti and
Balco and all the things that were happening. But this
is this is potentially massive international white collar crime? Am
I right in saying that? And if that happens, baseball
might not be able to save him. He gets to
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that extent where he is where Shoe Heo Tani himself
has dirty hands in this, in this entire process. That's
the case. Man, There's I don't know how much you
can do as the institution of baseball itself to protect
him from what he's affiliated himself with or made decisions
to do.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Bonds did sorry, I apologize. Bonds did win four MVPs
in a row in the NL between two thousand and two,
rather two thousand and one and two thousand and four.
All right, So how then it's it's no al player
has ever won three consecutive MVPs four in a row
from ages thirty seven to forty. This dude one MVPs
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Like it's it's so painfully obvious what was happening there?
And again Major League Baseball turned a blind eye because
you can't afford to have your star go under and
the same thing again, I'm not alleging that show. Hey,
I like anything really to do with this, because it's
still so early in this two hundred and forty million
dollar suit that's going on. If any of it is
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true and he is connected to any of it, Rob
Manfred ain't gonna let that guy take the fall.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
No way.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
He's too good. Yep, he's too big and he brings
in too much damn money. Take quick time out. We'll
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Speaker 1 (42:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Which roster comes into your head first when you can
compare what this one is.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Eleven was special?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Say nine, say nine?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Nine? Nine did it? I think eleven might have been
one of the better teams.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
And then but nine did it?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Coach say it?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Nine did it?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Six was tough?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Does it remind you of nine at all?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, there's some similarities because here's what happened in nine.
There were some veteran free agents that arrived in key
positions already with a young, talented draft class. And it
wasn't just the young veteran additions. It was like the uh,
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the juju they brought, the leadership, like when you're around
Funga and Greenlaw.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Like it oft believe you have them. Like when I
saw them, I'm like, I can't believe. Preseason game, I'm like,
how did you get them? It's so insane to think
about that.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
They bring something very intentional and it's very serious, and
it's very and like and so the the better teams
that we've ever been a part of, have all taken
over and run themselves, and this is one that can
do that.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Sean Payton yesterday with Kay Adams talking about the similarities
to his former teams in New Orleans, not necessarily that
two thousand and nine championship team flow down a little
bit there, Kay or not. I wouldn't say Ky slow down.
The other people who were quote tweeting it throughout the
day being like, Sean Payton thinks they're the two thousand
and nine Saints and Kay was like, chill out, it's
actually the twenty eleven team that he was really saying
(01:55):
that they had similarities to the one that went thirteen
and three and then lost in the second out of
the playoffs too. Jim Harbaugh San Francisco forty nine ers,
got it.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I didn't realize that Harbaugh was coaching forty nine ers
in twenty eleven. That's a long time ago. YEP.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That Divisional round game was a thirty six to thirty
two final. Vernon Davis, with nine seconds to go, catches
a fourteen yard touchdown pass from Alex Smith to retake
the lead after the Saints had a sixty six yard
touchdown from Drew Brees to Jimmy Graham to take the
lead with one thirty seven to go in the fourth.
It was a heartbreaker for the Saints that year. But
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Sean would he would wax on about his team and
how they do have similarities here and it's namely those
veteran offseason acquisitions on this vaunted likely number one defense
in the world.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
We do have to work a little bit with the
Illinois native. Sean Payton, on his Polynesian pronunciations, called him
like halfanga halffunga. It's talanoa hufonga. It's not. It's not huffunga.
That sounds like some type of disease that you need penicillin.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Board I think they call huff is what I've heard of.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Tally tally, tally, hoofunga.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Hoof, hoof, hoof, like the hoof, right you have, I
want an ud over that you please give me a
hoof give me.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Broncos are back out here. It's gonna be smoky, gosh,
it might be tough to breeze. They've got the uppers on,
but no bottoms today. So not a fully padded practice
like we were kind of anticipating.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Do you remember a year ago, right, Yeah, So we
do have uppers. So this is this gear for everybody
vic these are this is called shells. So shells in
the football vernacular is when you have real shoulder pads on,
not the spiders.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Which is what we were in yesterday.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
You have helmets. So that's the shah and the L.
It's for shoulder pad helmet, shoulder pad helmet and then
shorts that shells. Shells is not helmets only. That's helmets.
That's just helmets. Like I'm today, we have a so
my team has a scrimmage tomorrow night. Tonight, we're in
helmets only. It's it. So today's gonna be a good day.
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When you have shells, en Raj, it gives you the
opportunity to have inside run. It gives you the opportunity
to to be physical. Obviously you're not gonna live tackle
and go to the ground, but there are opportunities for
you to be physical. And that's what today is gonna be.
And I'm looking forward today. It's interesting last year at
this time, the Green Bay Packers were coming into town
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for the joint practice. That was a team that essentially
plays and trains at sea level. The Arizona Cardinals. You
realize that that's the second highest altitude National Football League team,
not Vegas. I think it's Arizona.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, yeah, I did not know that offhand. I thought
Vegas would have been right after the Broncos. There, Coach,
you have something in your hand here that Vic and
Mose were going crazy at.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
It's the reason that our ten o'clock program started at
ten oh five.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It sure is we were on time. Today. We're gonna
go through some of your play calls from the was
this the twenty.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
PAC twelve Championship game Saturday December seventh, twenty thirteen, the
Stanford Cardinal versus the Arizona State Sun Devils.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And the reason why you have this today is because
while Sean Payton, who's about nine feet to our east
right now, was talking with Kay Adams and how he
is typically in his offense. It is a it's a
long drawn out, really convoluted play.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
So let's give you a quick example.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Let's hear a.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Tiny little preview here of the old West Coast vernacular
that we used back in the day at Stanford. All right,
let's go green warp. So this is out of you personnel,
give me Green right West Nasty X short ninety five
will Badger kill Nomo ninety six, Power King Alert Nomo
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ninety seven, Chicago Water. That's one play call.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You said no motion twice.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yep, that's what it is. That's about fantastic. That's about
all I do. So that means that you started with emotion.
But if you kill because of a look to the
second call, we're gonna leave the X in the position
and not motion them.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Walk me through that full play call that you just
had as if I'm green.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
So Green right west, nasty X short, this is gonna
be two tight ends a full back end of tailback's
only one wide receiver Green right west Nasty would put
the Y and the V tight end to the right
in a wing alignment tight end in line wing alignment
to the right. Full back in green is dead eye
behind the quarterback IE formation football tailback is dotted behind
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the full back at seven yards toes at seven and
then the you have the X is opposite the receiver.
So that at that time that would have been gosh,
that was probably Doug Baldwin playing X for us in
twenty two personnel. The X was opposite and the X
short would imply that we are going to short motion
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our receiver down and the play call was ninety five
will badger. Okay, that's an inside ISO play to the
open side, away from the Y and the wing. Okay,
the Y and the and the U to the right side.
If you were to get boundary rotation, meaning the safety
comes down and becomes in an unblockable position where the
X short motion can't dig out that safety he's at
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linebacker depth, then guess what we were doing. We were
gonna kill it to no motion. We're gonna keep the second.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So this is the second part of the play call.
If a quarterback at the line of scrimmage or if
an offensive coordinator sees that they're going to kill the play,
this is the second play call that you're giving them.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
The second play call in huddle. Okay, So if he
likes the first play call and we have a two
high safety structure, you play call ends there essentially, Well
we yeah, So at the line of scrimmage, hey, let
it roll, let it roll, let it roll. Then the
kill no mo six king gone doesn't matter. And then
the alert shoot, I don't even know what the alert
was on this, get right here, no twelve years ago.
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So if you saw boundary rotation in the boundary safety
in an unblockable position to be able to run weak io,
you were gonna kill the play. And so at the
line of scrimmage, Hey, here we go, kill kill kill.
Everybody then communicates, hey six king six kingo's trade tray tray.
Fullbacks got a new track. Tailbacks got a new track.
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And now you're running. You're running power, which is backside
guards pulling. You're getting double teams at the point of
attack on the play side. Full back's kicking out the
n man on line of scrimmage. It's a ballplayer ran
yesterday at practice, not to my liking. I was not happy.
I screamed at everybody. Put in an old school, you know,
kind of a throwback we'll call it twenty ten Stanford
(08:42):
football type of formation. The boys didn't execute it. They
looked like they'd been living their entire life and in
spread seven on seven's And I said, you know what,
take something.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Friday night world.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
No, no, you're not. You know what we do. We
run the football coach.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Why do you have this in your hand today? Why
did we just go through a play call that I
understood six words of.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
He actually did pretty well.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, I was impressed. The Nomo piece was impressed. The
signal for Nomo had something to do with the former
La Dodger Adeo Nomo when we had it signaled.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
A Japanese thrower who's not embroiled in off season is
or off field issues, much like the current La Dodger
Japanese star.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
The demo with a very or unorthodox patient was a
delight towards a lot of fun. So the reason I
pulled this out is because I was surfing the world
Wide Interweb last night and I saw the Kay Adams
and Sean Payton hit, which was fantastic. Kay Adams always
doing great work, just gets way more out of all
the players and coaches than for some reason than myself
(09:45):
Vick Lombardi. I can't understand why they get why Kay
Adams gets more out of these athletes than U Raj.
Just they open up, they're they're they're more candid. But
Sean Payton was able to talk about, uh, the impact
of Bo Nicks on the vernacular his current offense, and
it Bo does come from a background where maybe some
of these play calls like green right ninety five week.
(10:07):
Maybe that just is just simply Willie Hey, Willy, Willie,
Willie Willie instead of saying green right ninety five week.
You can all compromise, you can compact it down into
one word. And that's something that Sean Payton has been
not just open to, but he talked about. There is
a massive difference.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
We'll get into some of that audio on the other side.
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Speaker 3 (11:14):
In the well, it's it's it's he's got say in
how we put it together. But we put it together
in a way where instead of calling twenty two flanker drive,
half back burst, you know, we might just call it uber.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh okay, he's a driver.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And and so then being able to get to the
line of scrimmage and use one word, these players are
are operating and thinking differently and more spontaneously.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Coach, I want to ask you the simplification as we
heard once again Sean Payton talking with Kay Adams regarding
the simpleification of his play calls, which is again the
reason why you have this play sheet in front of
you is because the vernacular from this Stanford Arizona Stake
game that you called in twenty thirteen and was that
the PAC twelve championship game, is well, it's the same
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vernacular as Sean Payton uses in his offenses. I understand
why they have boiled it down to one and two
word play calls. Now because this seems ridiculous. Why did
it take until now?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
God, that's a good question. So the West Coast offense
goes back to Paul Brown, one of the founding forefathers
of the modern passing offense, of which Don Coriel split
and took it one direction. Bill Walsh, the West Father.
Though Don Coriel man air Coriel, Vic Lombardi knows a
little thing or two about Dan Fouts running air Coriel's system.
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Those are the two main systems that the National Football
League even to this date, really come from that foundation.
The ironically, the the Don Corriel system called all routes
as numbers. So the route tree, if you heard of
the route tree, nine is a go route and eight
is a post route, at seven is a corner route,
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at six is a digger out. A five I don't
even know what five is. A four is a curl.
I've never lived in the route tree world, but I
know it just loosely from drawing cards up and stuff
at practice for scout teams on the West Coast offense,
it was about words and labeling and being exact with
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your details of how you label things. You tell the receiver,
the tight end, the full back, the tailback in the
play call, every single little thing about where to align,
how to motion, where to motion too. I mean, it
was overly descripts. It's almost as if you were telling
a story. And I have a tendency to do this,
probably because I come from a West Coast to offensive background.
(13:54):
But when you tell a story and you'd give too
many details.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's not the rules seven and drunken white. It's not
needless words. That's not what it is.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
So for example, I'm gonna give you this so Sean
Payton's world, and I'll go through my own personal evolution
of having coached in the very verbose and lengthy West
Coast offensive play call to now coaching in a high
school offense that does a lot of the same concepts
but compacted the verbiage by a lot. Okay, So, for example,
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what we used to call at Stanford the personnel group
would be Zebra juice Davis. That's just a who's on
the field, Zebra juice Davis. The play call gun double right,
flex cross three jets scat Florida kill two Jet scat
Alert two hundred jet Griffin. Do you want to know
what that play call is? Now? Cloud? Why it's cloud. Literally,
(14:50):
the word is cloud for all that Zebra Juice, Davis,
Gun double right, flex Cross three jets scats. See, I
can get on kill two Jet Scat Alert two hundred
Jet Griffin. Nope, Cloud.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I can get on board with Cloud because I can
see that play drawn up, and I'm sure that they've
got you know, you've got animated versions of these plays
and obviously you've got uh, there's seven hundred cameras out
here when you go through walkthroughs. You obviously get that
in your team meetings directly after practice. You can bring
it home on the iPad when you're done with that
day at camp. I can take Cloud and go Cloud
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means what I just watched on the television screen. Yep,
that makes sense to me. It doesn't you know what,
who else it makes sense to bon NICKX. This generation,
this generation, they they don't this. This is not a
long winded sit around a campfire and tell long stories.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Generation.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Oh is this your yell at clouds? TikTok rant you're
about to go?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
I like Cloud? Okay, Cloud is a play. I love Cloud.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Cloud is a play.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
So why would I yell it set cloud? That would
be asinine to yell at cloud, bon Nix and the generation,
even though I mean Bonix appears to be a bit
of an old soul, but this generation is a digital generation. Man,
what used to be a long form text message to
say I am really pissed off right now, all you
(16:06):
have to go is search the emojis and and that's
that sentence. It comes across with a with the explotive.
It'd be question mark, the ampersand the uh ex and
it's it's an emoji covering the mouth with a bunch
of explatives. That's that's how this generation communicates, simplified in
(16:27):
little bits, even in visuals. The emoji generation is is
is incredibly compact to where it used to be. Like
I get a text from my daughter now, who's fifteen
years old. I have no idea what it means because
there's like there's like three letters on there that that
supposedly it means something, and I just say in in
(16:48):
old People, English Police, and then she puts it in
West Coast offensive Vernaca.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
She walks you through, every motion, she walks you through, Hey,
if I'm not home at this time, this is where
I'm gonna be, don't call me. Ask mom. That's what
Peyton says.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
She gives me a little X reset to green left
deuce neck. That means ogre wash ninety seven f slide
alert ninety for wheezy.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I'm going to Sarah's house. If I'm not there, we're
at Pinkberry and that.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
The original text was t f y huh what what
does that mean? Where are you? Are you alive? Sean?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And is post practice? Presser was talking about, you know,
two thousand and nine and twenty eleven, those two great
teams as a dodge getting stung by a bee for
the third time in a row. Every single year, I
get stung by a wasp at this godforsaken training camp.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Still have a job though, right sure, Still alive, Still alive,
still married, he's still happy, Got a kid on the way,
got a kid on the way. Get open, man, keep
getting stuck.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Keep getting Yeah, that's an annuals that's last year's.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
You're still there. You have a scar. I have a
scar from it? How about I'm not. I don't want
to throw this into the universe, but I'm going to.
I've never been stung by a beeror wasp in my life.
Oh I hope you never do. It's just weird. It's
just oh my god, it's just as much as I
am outside.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
The worst was the worst wasp sting. And I'll get
back into two thousand and nine and twenty eleven Saints
here in a couple of seconds. The worst wasps wasp
sting I ever had. I was coaching a hockey camp
during the summer, and we had the kids outside for
their lunch hour, and they'll get like thirty minutes to eat,
and then we have thirty minutes of like either a
game that we're playing or running through like Calistenics and
(18:28):
sprints outside. I took my shoes off because well, it's
summer and it's beautiful and I want to be Brent
Burns and hang out without shoes. Friend of the program,
Friend of the program, running.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Over good friend of the program.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I stepped on what I thought was like a goat
head or a burr and looked down on my foot
and it's a massive hornets stinger sticking out of my foot.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
So are their degrees of worst? Stings like that hurt more,
but they.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Ornets have always been worse for me. But I pulled
the thing out. I thought I was fine. I put
my skates back on to go for the next three
hours of summer camp coaching these kids, I had to
cut my boot off. I could not take my foot
out of my boot. At the end of the day,
my foot had swollen so much. I spent eight hundred
dollars on new skates the next day because I stepped
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on a damn wasp.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Are you allergic to?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Probably, It's not like I'm carrying around an EpiPen, although
in the fact that you're still have a slight bit
of inflammation from a year ago is probably not great.
Probably I should probably carry around an EpiPen. That's one
thing I've always wanted to do, like anytime that I've
got a buddy, who I've got a buddy was like
deathly allergic to like eggs, which is brutal for him
(19:41):
because like everything has eggs in it. I have always
always held if you eat an egg, I get to
stab you in the chest with the EpiPen. I've always
wanted to do that.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Like do you have like like through the heart? Cand
that kill you?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well? Through the heart?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Is it? The EpiPen supposed to go like in a thigh?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
But can I do it to the op so side.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Can I do it here?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Is that gonna have right pectoral this side yards on
that side?
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Unless your buddy's got massive man boobs, I think I
could potentially puncture a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
That's no fun to do. I just want to, like
Kalima down into the middle of your chest. I've always
wanted to do that.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
What is that? Is that? Vampires or what's kat lima?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Indiana Jones baby rips his heart out of the cessat film.
I'm dating myself, not you. You're the older one. You
should know Indy. Okay, these these two thousand and nine
and twenty eleven comparisons that Sean was making with with
Kay Adams yesterday, and does this team have any similarities
to well, the championship team in nine. Sean said, yeah,
(20:43):
you can. You can feel it. There's some veteran acquisitions
that came in in the offseason of two thousand and eight.
You get Malcolm Jenkins in the first round as a
free safety. You could you could liken Malcolm Jenkins Barrett
a little bit, not necessarily the same exact player, but
you bring in Darren Sharper, one of the hottest hitting
safeties in the league, coming over from Green Bay that year,
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while not the same position. Speaking of energy and force
and Captain of your defense, Darren Sharper is your Dre
green Law. He is your talanoa Hufanga. Breaking news from Shams.
The Carolina Hurricanes owner Tom Dundon has agreed to buy
the Portland Trailblazers for the estate of Paul Allen for
(21:29):
the valuation of four billion dollars. So the Portland Trailblazers
the latest franchise in the Major Four to be sold
for a wild amount of money. The Blazers four billion
to Carolina Hurricanes owner Tom Dundon.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Could you have two professional franchises that you own that
are further tests from not really?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You sure can't.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
I don't know. Kronkeys could be You can technically be
the owner of the Seattle Seahawks and also, like the
Miami Heat.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
The Kronkeys have the l a rams. They also have
like don't they have arsenal? That's pretty far away. That's
a continent and an ocean.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yeah, that's a lot, it's quite a bit. It's an
it's one of the largest continents play. I mean, yeah,
that's a that's a long ways.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Is it too much for me to think that the
Darren Sharper type of acquisition that transformed the Saints from
a good team a great game. Is that the same thing.
Is it too much to just go, well, we had
this guy, and we also brought in a hard hitting
safety that feels like he's the the energy driver on
this year's team. Is it? Is it too elementary to go,
(22:35):
oh yeah, that's that's the reason why they're gonna jump
from getting beat thirty one to seven to competing for them.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
For one second, think that Sean Payton doesn't look back
at the the off season of movement, the off season
of who they took in two thousand and nine and
truly went out of his way to play his role
in making it feel like two thousand and nine. Again, dude,
(23:05):
we coaches are We're incredibly superstitious. We also just liken
success with a particular year of scripting how we did
practice and you like, that's a greatest hits album right there.
That's my best greatest hits album was that year of scripting.
That was also my greatest hits album of adding different
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types of players to to a roster. I think that
you bring up a really good point man that you
will go out in your first round pick and you
get a kind of a luxury defensive back. Yes, same
thing happened in New Orleans in two thousand and nine. Yes,
you go out and get a presence, like established presence
(23:49):
as a safety that is a he is he is
a bad he's a bad mammage. Emma, He's a dude
that in romes. He'll hit you, he'll get his hands
on footballs. That was Darren Sharper, and he was an
established fed and he had done it, and he brought
a level of veteran leadership too. At the New Orleans Saints,
a young core that was growing and building together, and
(24:11):
then all of a sudden, you accelerate that growth by
bringing that kind of a player to the team. And
I don't know who we would have maybe for Drake
Greenlaw in terms of I don't know if there's a
two thousand and nine compart even a twenty eleven comp
for bringing a linebacker. What's my guy? Is it? Is it? Davis?
I always forget the guy's name. The linebacker's still playing
that Sean Payton brought into the Saints organization.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Oh, I know what you're talking about. I don't know
his first name though, Tomorrow Davis kJ that's exactly.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I don't think he was certainly not played. He didn't
play on the twenty nineteen, but no. But I think
I think that Sewan has already even mentioned that Drake
Greenlaw has the feeling of the Mario Davis in terms
of his presence, in terms of his vocal leadership.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
You know who the linebacker is? Who is Jonathan Wilma.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Oh, that's right, from established from you don't in Miami,
established veteran jet comes over. Not in the two year
did he come in.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
He came over the year previous.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It wasn't the two thousand and eight offseason. He was
the two thousand and seven offseason, so still relatively new.
But your linebacker addition to be the mouthpiece of that
of that linebacking corps, right along with the guy behind
him and Darren Sharper was Jonathan film Filma was a
freak great player, and he had a season ending knee
injury the year before he got to New Orleans. Like,
(25:30):
the parallels are crazy.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
It and the parallels are probably slightly intentional rage. That's
my point is that as a head coach and a
guy that's very involved in every single decision you do.
Go back to your greatest hits. I as a coach,
go back to my greatest hits. Hey, what did I
do that? Gosh? I remember that we had a bye
week that year. We handled it really well and we
played awesome coming off that. Buy. I'm gonna go back
(25:52):
and look at this schedule. I'm gonna replicate that schedule
or this thing. Hey, the whole year was awesome. You
know what I learned though by doing that a lot
of times for me recreating the twenty fourteen Boise State
season where we led basically every offensive statistical category, where
Jayji just ran rough shot over everybody and anybody, where
(26:13):
we won a Fiesta Bowl, and we ended up having
future NFL players like Brett Rippin and I already mentioned
Jji and DeMarcus Lawrence really good players. When I tried
to replicate that elsewhere and it didn't work, it made
you realize there's no two teams that are creating.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You can't replicate the entire thing. But I don't think
it is I don't think it's something that you should
hold against Sean Payton.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
For It's there's a roadmap there's a roadmap, and you
want to continue to follow a similar roadmap.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And again the parallels are here that it happens in
the same position group. If the Broncos had already had
the established like captain of the mid or of the
linebacking corps, and the captain of your defense in terms
of how physical you want to play, and that's how
we're talking about Whufonga and green Law. If you already
had those, your veteran editions would have come elsewhere. Your
veteran editions would have come at wide receiver. Maybe you
(27:11):
would have gone a little bit harder for a guy
like DeVante Adams, right he was available, Maybe you go
harder for that player. But well, you didn't necessarily have
that need on this team. I see the parallels. The
two thousand and eight Saints team. It's like that they
didn't make the playoffs. Man, they were eight and eight.
They need to win the final game of the season.
It's Carolina that year they lost eight and eight, don't
(27:33):
make the playoffs. Two thousand and nine, they make it,
they win it. Crazier things have happened than the Broncos
losing thirty one to seven in the first round of
Buffalo and then making it the next year when they
look better. They do. It's that simple.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I I one did. They caught my eye right before
practice began, and Sean Payton was was lingering over here
with the with the local media muggles, and he was
also spending he spent a good deal of time talking
with court and Sutton, talking through some routes. It looked
like he was I'm a bit of a bit of
a body language reader, and it was almost like, hey man,
(28:09):
you got a pretty good bag. It's done to step up, man, Like,
That's what I kind of read. And if you don't
think coaches don't do that, then you're wrong. They do that.
Coaches do that like, hey, I've taken care of you
even in like at various levels, college level, We got
you that nil deal. Man, It's time for you to
make good on your side.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Have you found though, that Courtland Sutton is one of
the guys who is holding back.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
No, no, it's not holding back. I mean if he
catches that first pass, okay, we're having a great season.
Games we're having because he catches that perfect pass from Bonnicks.
Bone Nicks is now two for two with a great
completion to Troy Franklin on an RPO hitch that got
nine yards. That that ball down the field is probably
what twenty four to twenty six yards. You're two for
(28:53):
two now for more yards than you ended up throwing
for in eleven attempts.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Even if you punt in those next.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Ten, you're probably going to right because you're rolling likely
those in rhythm and it feels completely different.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It's funny Sean you mentioned he was talking with Courtland.
They were talking through this exact ball that the wide
receivers are going up. It's this short, little five yard
I fade in red zone fad, red zone fade. This
is the exact ball that Sean was talking with Courtland about.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah, and he was. He was actually Sean was demonstrating
the exact release of it. You know, this kind of
shave release where you get them with and then you
get your your verticality back so you don't drift into
the sideline.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You think Sean Payton saw the the reports out of
Las Vegas and how Pete Carroll was stepping into a
defensive scrum to stop it and went, hey, hey.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
It appears that we have unfortunately lost the guys down
at camp. So we're going to go ahead and take
a time out here, and we just want to say
thank you guys so much for listening right here on
out the two Sports Radio in ninety five.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
The super Bowl kind of goes without having to say it.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
You know, we're all working for that goal and you
can just kind of see and demeanors of guys and
by the by the way guys show up is that
that is our goal and uh, we don't really have
to talk about it. We can just go out there
and be about it and practice and uh practice hard
and that's just gonna make each other better. And you
never know, we could go out there and have a
great season, could go out there and have to grow
(30:17):
and learn a lot. But we're definitely gonna be trying.
We're definitely gonna work really hard at it.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Bo Nick's talking about Super Bowl expectations with the Broncos
and having that be part of the the goal this
year for the twenty twenty five version. As we're live
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(30:45):
the text line today going through route progressions with the
wide receivers, I bet you were probably ten minutes away
from a first team activity.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Yep, about ten to fifteen. I think today's gonna be
a spirited red zone emphasis practice, a little bit of
goal line. Probably end up seeing a lot of goal
line walk through the fact that you're not in full pads.
You'd want to take away the banging on the lower half.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
How does welcoming in a second practice opponent in Arizona
tomorrow here at the very place that we're standing right now,
how does that impact what you do at practice today?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
It's a great question. So this is a bit of
a new occurrence here in the National Football League where
you're now seeing more joint practices two in a season
where you used to pretty much and with a lot
of frequency. See one. I remember when my dad was
coaching at the San Diego Chargers, well when they had
six preseason games, well there was a lot of preseason games,
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but even then, the Miami Dolphins came out and there
was a joint practice. It was like four days worth
of joint practice they were. I mean, it just felt
like they were there the entire week. I'm like, did
they take the train? They had to stay here for
extra time to make sure that trip was valuable enough
for them. Uh yeah, this is uh this, I think
this is a good thing. I like, I like the
(32:06):
two practice uh model of against two opponents to have
those joint practices and clearly all these things that I
didn't Roger, I didn't even realize this until recently, that
the modern joint practice and or modern preseason game are
all cross division. Is that is that correct? Like conference
cross conference? Does anybody play AFC versus AFC or NFC
(32:30):
versus NFC top.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Of my head, I don't think so. I believe they
try and keep them as far away as possible.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Trying to make sure that you don't practice together, know
each other's verbiage to a certain degree, and then potentially
play each other in the first round of the playoffs
like that would be fairly recent. If you're in the
wild card round as supposed, If you're in Super Bowl, Hey,
all bets are off. You're in the Dad Gup super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, how many things that you're installing on you know,
August thirteenth, they're gonna.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Be relevant at that point in time. Yeah, it's not
not gonna have.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
If there's one, like, hats off to you. If there's
one play that you go, hey, we saw remember that
Thursday at ninety eight degree smoky Thursday when we were
in Denver.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
You remember that play. I'll tell you what that smoke is.
Something else. It's heavy on the old lungs.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Speaking of Super Bowl contenders, the Buffalo Bills have agreed
to a four year, forty eight million dollar contract extension
with running back James Cook. So his holdout ends twelve
million dollars on average, brings Cook up into that upper
threshold of running backs in the league. I think twelve
is a really solid number for that player. Like it's
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not it's not Saquon, it's not Christian McCaffrey, but that
gets him into the top five. He's up there with
Alvin Kamara and Josh Jacobs and just under the Jonathan Taylor.
That is the running back that James Cook is at
this point in his career.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
It sure is. That's the that's the right number. You're
not putting him in the spot where he's you know,
a big, big money guy, top three money guy. Where
does he getend up at seven?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
On average? He ends up one, two, three, four, five six, seven,
tied for seventh.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Tide for seventh. Which is a good deal for a
for a player, probably a pretty team friendly deal based
off of what James Cook and his representation were originally desiring.
His value is real. All you gotta do is go
back to the Broncos playoff game against the Bills and say,
who is the player that impacted that game the most.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
James is a difference maker.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
It's really good.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
And again that's the reason why you didn't allow anyone
from the interior defensive line to go away. As Bo
launches a ball deep, de Troy Franklin hangs on to
that thing at the end of the or at the
back end of the end zone about about forty five
forty yards in the air or something like that.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
I can I can actually just hear one of my
fellow colleagues, former colleagues, a guy named Junior Adams who's
now the wide receiver coach of the Dallas Cowboys, dealing
with Ceedee Lamon George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
He was, I mean, that's good talent. I know it
too big and big personality, but still is awesome.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
The reason I bring up Junior Adams and watching Troy
Franklin catch a ball. Junior Adams was my wide receiver
coach at Boise State, my wide wide receiver coach at
Western Kentucky. He was also Troy Franklin's wide receiver coach
at the University of Oregon for at least two years
of his career there. And he always used to say,
and he had a little junior eyes, had a little
tiny like lisp, little mini lisp. He'd be like, hey,
(35:22):
don't let the ball cross your ad when so, when
you're catching a football and it's like a go route,
did you notice where he where he? Where did he?
Where were his hands when he caught the ball above?
His eyes are below his.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Eyes, right shoulder above the eyes.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
That was actually below the eyes. Oh, so, so you
you don't want that ball like, so you want to
keep your hands if you if you have the ability
to high enough that you your eyes can track that
ball into your into your hands as opposed to letting
your hands be.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Below your eye, left hands above the eyes.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Well, he didn't do it. He he had low hands
and I could imagine, I could imagine Junior Adams being like, hey, Troy,
that's why you drop a couple of balls, because you
keep your you gotta keep the you gotta keep your
hands above your ass.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's such a minute change in how you go about
catching a football, and it matters that much.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Oh, it matters a ton. It's always about hand position
relative to your eyes. Critical, absolutely critical. Like that's why
you always hear people will get you, know, when you're
screaming at the television when there's a drop. I always say, dude,
you gotta shoot high hands there, because truly, there is
a thing when you're tracking a ball and and your
(36:34):
hands are below, you're not gonna see it in all
the way and down into your eyes. Whereas if your
hands are high, you're gonna see that football, and then
your eyes are just naturally gonna go to that spot
where your hands are catching the football. The percentages of
catching that ball are so much higher.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Makes sense.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I Troy Franklin caught that ball, and he caught it,
but it's a little bit of a tiny mini double catch.
His hands were low on a on a post route,
and I just want to be like Troy.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Where it's not secure in the hands, it's secure on
the chest.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Yes, Troy Hi, your hands, don't let the ball, They'll
let the ball cross your eyes.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Coach, you've been uh following this sho heo Tani story
with what is going on with the most important player
in a sport that desperately needs a star. So he's
coming off of his interpreter stealing millions and millions of dollars.
Like his interpreter racked up like one hundred and eighty
(37:30):
one million dollars of bets over the course of two years.
He had nineteen thousand bets across two years at one
hundred and eighty million. Now he won a bunch of
those bets. He also lost a ton and stole like
twenty million from show Hey that has now gone away.
The interpreters in jail and paying for the crimes of
you know, stealing money and I'm I'm sure evading you know,
(37:50):
winnings taxes and all that crap. I don't know how
it actually went down, but sho Hey is now back
in the public eye because apparently he and his team
have like sabotaged a two hundred and forty million dollar
real estate project in Hawaii. It is something going on
with him or is he just one of those players
(38:12):
that he's just he's got. He's got a bunch of
dudes around him there trying to get a piece of
the pie, and they happen to be way shadier.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
What I will say, and this is going to be
a very a massive over generalization. I spent a lot
of time in Japan, knowing the way the ethos of
business in Japan, and I know every country has its issues,
but man, it's rare being in Japan. Like so many
(38:41):
things with Japanese business and the Japanese culture is extreme
levels of detail, extreme levels of professionalism. So it surprises
me that a player, and frankly a Japanese citizen, arguably
right now the most significant citizen of Japan, yeah, has
been aple to fall prey to such bad people surrounding him.
(39:03):
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
This is a guy who could this year become the
first three time MVP or three straight MVP winner in
MLB history. Now, there's been some players who have gotten
very very close to that, like Bonds won three and
four show hey, I believe has already won three m
vps in four years. He had one of them Uh
(39:26):
that I think it was two years ago that he
didn't win one. DiMaggio has multiple or has three or
more MVPs, but none, uh consecutive. Jimmy Fox had multiple
MVPs but didn't have three consecutive Yogi Berra, Roy Campanella,
Mickey mannl Stan Musial. Bonds has seven MVPs but did
(39:47):
not win three straight show. He is on the verge
of winning three straight and now he's embroiled in this
type of of controversy yet again. Now, I don't think
any these things gonna happen about I like there nothing
leads me to believe that like Otani is a bad dude.
And if he is, I heard Brett saying this earlier.
Is he do too big of a star to allow
a downfall? That's a third of his contract?
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Wow, when you think of it that way, that.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Is, Barry Bonds is too big of a star to
let fail. Right, Everyone knew that dude was on steroids.
Everyone saw his.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Name, which was a bit different because everybody was the
sport was tainted at the time. But still this is
a little bit more of an isolated but still.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
He was the number one star, the biggest star in
that sport when it was booming. You everybody knew.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
You all started dealing with Wow, there was some shadiness
with Bonds and the business dealings with Victor Kanti and
Balco and all the things that were happening. But this
is this is potentially massive international white collar crime? Am
I right in saying that? And if that happens, baseball
might not be able to save him. He gets to
(41:00):
that extent where he is where Shoe Heo Tani himself
has dirty hands in this, in this entire process. That's
the case. Man, There's I don't know how much you
can do as the institution of baseball itself to protect
him from what he's affiliated himself with or made decisions
to do.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Bonds did sorry, I apologize. Bonds did win four MVPs
in a row in the NL between two thousand and two,
rather two thousand and one and two thousand and four.
All right, So how then it's it's no al player
has ever won three consecutive MVPs four in a row
from ages thirty seven to forty. This dude one MVPs
(41:39):
Like it's it's so painfully obvious what was happening there?
And again Major League Baseball turned a blind eye because
you can't afford to have your star go under and
the same thing again, I'm not alleging that show. Hey,
I like anything really to do with this, because it's
still so early in this two hundred and forty million
dollar suit that's going on. If any of it is
(41:59):
true and he is connected to any of it, Rob
Manfred ain't gonna let that guy take the fall.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
No way.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
He's too good. Yep, he's too big and he brings
in too much damn money. Take quick time out. We'll
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