August 15, 2025 • 46 mins
0:00 - Coach and Raj discuss how yesterday showed that even without the starters, the Broncos will be just fine! They breakdown how the Broncos might look as they seek to build off Thursday's great joint practice.
12:38 - Mark McClune of CBS 5 in Arizona joins us to discuss how the Cardinals offense is evolving compared their defense. He also highlights how yesterday was not their best showing but they will be better by Week 1. He also explaisn why the Cards could compete for the NFC West if they get out to a strong start this season! Mark also explains what's holding Kyler Murray back from being the greatest version of himself.
33:35 - Coach and Raj talk about embracing the city you live in's teams regardless of your favorite teams. Does that rule apply to the Rockies?
12:38 - Mark McClune of CBS 5 in Arizona joins us to discuss how the Cardinals offense is evolving compared their defense. He also highlights how yesterday was not their best showing but they will be better by Week 1. He also explaisn why the Cards could compete for the NFC West if they get out to a strong start this season! Mark also explains what's holding Kyler Murray back from being the greatest version of himself.
33:35 - Coach and Raj talk about embracing the city you live in's teams regardless of your favorite teams. Does that rule apply to the Rockies?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Fair question. I probably was gonna get to this. I
haven't done this before. I haven't had two joint practices before.
So I'm gonna I'm not gonna play. Neither Jonathan or
myself were gonna play the ones. Now there'll be a few,
Like there's five, five six players that are on an
eight play pitch count.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Real quick with.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Nick, he had a little spur on the top of
his foot. All right now, I had two spurs removed
on my big toe and that hurt like them, you
know what, And so I'm a little bit. I'm still recovering.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's better.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
His is something that we just had done and we
knew that he was gonna miss this week. He'll be
up and at it next week. So he's been fan fantastic.
His miss and the daisy's missed has been this simple
bum spur in a unique spot on the top of
the foot. It's not weight bearing. He went ahead and
(01:11):
had it done I think three stitches. The goal would
be to have him back at practice next week getting
some work against normals.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Those are the words of Sean Payton following yesterday's joint
practice with the Arizona Cardinals. We are back in studio.
Training camp for us being out there live is now
wrapped up for the twenty twenty five these er season.
Thank you so much to our friends at Ramos Law
for being out there with us as we welcome you
guys into the morning sprint on a Friday Coach Mike Sandford, Alex, Ryan,
(01:39):
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on the shop MAZD to text line getting you ready
for Saturday evenings Week two preseason matchup. Where As you
heard the coach say, well, we're not really going to
see anybody play.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
This is the right decision. There's there's no doubt in
my mind that you got enough out of two joint
practices and the most important piece of this puzzle is
that you got the performance out of Bononix that you
needed for Bonnicks, but also obviously for this this entire offense.
(02:15):
To get to get the confidence and get the groove
back a little bit that was Yesterday was a that's
how Stella got her groove back kind of day and
it was good.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I as the practice progressed, you and I doing the
show live from training camp are very last one. Man,
I'm gonna miss it, especially after yesterday. It makes me
really miss it because that was a lot of fun,
was it? Not Alex just another team out there? Not fun?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Are you in a miss training camp? I will miss
that day of training camp and the Wednesday that was
super super like physical. Remember the Wednesday, July thirtieth practice
basically the last good practice that It was the.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
One where JK. Dobbins And who did Dobbins beak with
that day?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Well, Malcolm Roach was was yeah. And then of course
Marvin Mims came out either after that practice it and
talked about what he's he's a fat what he says,
he's fat guy or something like that, somebody that he
body shamed him. What you're allowed to do? Your football
is a sport. Apparently that that it's politically correct. A
body shame just cool.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I guess that was the day that you knew Talanoa
Hufanga and Drake Greenlaw were the energy leaders of this defense. Yeah,
I'll miss those days. I will certainly miss those energy days.
I will not miss what happened on Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, they were. Unfortunately, there are too many of those
type of days that were.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Just like and I gotta be honest, man, what are
we watching?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
What are we seeing?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Even though the energy was vastly different yesterday, and that
was something that you could feel like if how you
were there in person, you could feel at the Broncos,
especially their first team offense, was there ready to perform,
and they did they needed to do that. It still
felt as though coach that there were some portions of
practice that just it should have been faster. It lacked
(04:13):
energy for me from a from like a management standpoint,
and I think that's a Sean Payton thing.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I don't actually I think it was actually an Arizona
Cardinals John hilly gannon thing. So what I noticed is
that people would be in position to move on to
the next drill the next period, they were in position,
and then they would just wait. And I wonder if
there was a little built in recovery, elevation acclamation piece
(04:45):
of the puzzles that you didn't just sprint to the
next drill and start the start.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
The period because Denver was moving the whole time. Yeah,
in the moment they got out there move.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Did you notice that too, though, before any team period started,
they would transition to that place and then it was
like a minute and a half to two and a
half minute of just standing.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Before the horn. I think that was it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And the same thing happened to the last team or
team period where it was no timeouts. I want to say,
there was like a minute or something on the clock
and you had to move yourself into field goal position.
And while the Broncos did get into field goal position,
I believe they hit one there at the end there
were two sacks, including two quarterback hits from klay As
Campbell on bow Nick. So like, while it felt positive,
(05:24):
that was the only time the Arizona defense really did
get to Denver. Yeah, I did feel as though that
they were ready to get into a period and then
there was a lull, and that's probably where I was
feeling there was one little piece of energy that was missing.
That was it.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
The wild thing about that is a lot of these
NFL franchise employ sports science people like doctors in sports
science and that could have been an agreed upon component
of practice, because you're you're going up at least four
thousand feet in elevation, and you and I did look
at it. You were right. The Arizona Cardinals Stadium is
(06:01):
the third highest elevation stadium in all of pro football.
Las Vegas is number two. You were right, rash, I
got a tipped.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Cap, thank you.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
But still even then, I mean, you're talking about what
Vegas is at sixteen hundred feet elevation maybe seventeen years.
You're split here and then Arizona is at like one fifty.
You're split in here. But even then, teams that have
come to joint practices in Denver against Denver probably outside
of there was a I guess a really bad joint
practice in Denver with either Russell Wilson's first or second
(06:33):
year is either Sean's.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The Cowboys practice.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Cowboys practice was that Nathaniel Hackett. That was a dumpster
fire from everything I was able to hear about. But
you notice that a lot of visiting teams, every single
one of them, are making at least a four thousand
foot climb in elevation. Outside of the Vegas Raiders, they
have to build some things in because they they want
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to acclimatize the elevation. So I think that's why the
energy is dippy.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Are the Broncos technically a home team against the Jets
when they go to London? Are they technically home?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Are they giving up a home game this year? Because
if we're talking about built in advantages, and I know,
like you should beat the crap out of New York,
like that should be a an afterthought game. You should
kill the Jets. But if you're giving up a home game,
I don't necessarily love that. If we're talking about built
in advantages playing the New York Jets are.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
The home team?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Okay, all right, there we go.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
So Denver Broncos at New York Jets on October twelfth live.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, you essentially remove a road game this year.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Where is is that?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Is that game at Tottenham?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Oh? Nice to Tottenham Tartenham.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's artam the Broncos and the Jets a Tattenham.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
You just you got your nice uh fresh from Ireland? Guinness?
Is that from the actual Guinness Brewery? Is the Guinness Brewery?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Like, big dude, it's massive?
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Is it really cool? Oh?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Do they have like do they have I pas there?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Do they have different like they have like a blonde.
I've had the blonde, and they have there's zero zero
one if you're into like drinking non alcoholic beers.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
And there's been a lot of that's articles out today. Hey,
you know what that's called beers? That'd be the zero beers. Hey, rush,
let's get tonight. Let's get together tonight on a Friday
and just smash zero beers.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Let's go have some zero beers. There's been articles coming
out about how like the you know, the the mega
decline of drinking and gen Z and stuff like.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
That, and you already know what you know? What the uh?
When the state of Utah had a cap on the
alcohol percentage on beers, did you know that? Yep? Three
two beers right? And there's some other states, I believe,
even in the Upper Midwest. I can't remember what states
in particular.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well, for a while in Colorado, if you had a
liquor license at it was Colorado grocery store, you could
only sell three two beers.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Right, So that's called Hey, you want to get together
and just slam a bunch of near beers beers?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I love that fantastic.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
That's that's actually a real say in Utah. All the
all the derelicts that live in Utah that aren't members
of the church, aren't following the the ways of the
Utah Church.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
No, the Guinness Factory tour is a must go, absolutely
must see you.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Would you swim in a pool of Guinness? Yes? I
totally five four nine two five. If given the opportunity
to jump in a vat of freshly brewed guinness, would
you just take a nice little swim? Would you open
your eyes underwater?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It was the only no, I would not. It was
the only thing I had in Ireland. I was gonna,
you know, I like my whiskey, but I like, you know,
more of a bourbon guy.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Irish whiskey is good.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It is.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
You don't love it.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's too scotchy for me.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Like PD Scotch. I hate p D Scotch. It's the
like it's it's like, did somebody put their throw a
cigarette in this Scotch? Like this bourbon? Take your cigarette
out Brett Kane's dad. I don't want cigarettes in my
dad gum bourbon.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
The guinnesses are supposed to be low calorie too, what Yeah,
it's a lower You think it's a heavy beer because
it is a darker beer. It's a lower calorie beer. Yeah,
so that's all I had. I had a bunch of
the item free. I don't know that. I probably should
have been listening a little bit more. I was too
enthralled with the actual like art of the you know,
(10:35):
two minutes and second love that and it's different.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Man.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
They don't want the poor to be side glass, sideways glass?
Do they like three quarter angle straight straight?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Top it. Yeah, it's a whole thing, and that it
has to sit.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
And that's the best way apparently to pour a beer
is to make it foamy, because then the what what
gives you the berths and the indigestion and sometimes the
beer farts. It's sometimes the uh beiritutes is beard is
that you don't let the carbonation actually burn out on
the poor. So that's how you're that's the way you
learned the to what is it? How how long is it?
(11:11):
Two minute poor?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't know what it is off the top mind,
but the two.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Minute poor is essentially what you need to get done.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
The length of a Guinness poor, of a proper guinness poor.
Ish I should know this off the top of my head.
I was just there. Sorry, is one hundred and twenty
seconds just under two minutes?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Are are you kidding right now? What one hundred and
twenty seconds is under two minutes?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Sorry? One nineteen point five. I round it up two
minutes on the nose, one hundred and twenty seconds, But
one nineteen point five is the actual number according to Guinness.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Oh is it really so? It's just under one hundred
nineteen point five. Yes, that's really cool. I thought you
were telling me that one hundred and twenty seconds is
under two minutes.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I think I actually said that that I was in
my head. It was a great say. I was looking
at the number in front of my face right now.
Is one nineteen point five? So yes, just under two minutes.
But then, me being you know who I am, I
rounded up on the.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Point five because why not.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Eighty nine point five B plus Nope, that's a name
minus brother three oh three five oh four oh nine
two five is where you guys can reach us. Today
we're gonna get into the weeds about this depth chart
and start talking about cuts. Because Sean Payton got into it.
He talked forever yesterday, and he got into all of
these very difficult cuts that they're gonna have to make
at offensive line, at running back, at wide receiver. Is
(12:33):
my guy Joaquin Davis gonna make the team. There's just
not enough damn spots. We'll get into it next.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
The New York jetsund are the home team.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Okay, all right, there we go.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
So Denver Broncos at New York Jets on October twelfth Live.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, you essentially remove a road game this year.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Where is is that?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Is that game at Tottenham?
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Oh? Nice to Tottenham, Dartnham. It's still Dartnam, the.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Broncos and the Jets Tottenham.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Tell me how many quarters are there in an American
football game?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Uh, I'd say six.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I'm going to take wild guess and say five.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Oh, Colin, you try to make me look stupid.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Four. Four. Asking Britt how many quarters are in a game,
it's like asking me if one hundred and twenty seconds
is equivalent to two minutes. We have to pause and
think for a second there. In my defense, one nineteen
(13:36):
and a half is just shy or just shy of
two minutes. But yes, quarters would typically mean four. That's
how that works. You fall in their coach Welcome back.
Three oh three, five oh four, oh nine two five
is where you can reach us. Today we will be
joined by CBS five in Phoenix. The sports director Mark
(13:56):
mcclun will join us at ten twenty five to talk
about Saturday evenings game between the Broncos and the Cardinals.
But we didn't get to see a whole bunch of
the Arizona offense yesterday. It was on the far side
of the field. It was basically it was reactionary and
it was typically Marvin Harrison does something cool. Trey McBride
(14:17):
looks like the best tight end in football, and that's
basically it. Trey McBride's a freak.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
He is big time. Anytime I peeked over on the
far side of the field yesterday, Trey McBride was making plays.
It's the best player on your team. I do think
that Marvin Harrison Junior is gonna have a big year
after watching what I saw yesterday. I don't know how
the full practice played out. I don't know if there
was many reports about it, but it seemed like the
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beginning the onset of practice, Marvin Harrison Junior like established
himself as as a dude that was on the field
in just physical dimensions and physical attributes just look different.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Here's Sean Payton speaking about the former CSU ram Kree McBride.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean, look, that's a joker, right, And so
when you and you.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Get paid, those.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Those players become more difficult than the blue chip receiver
out here that we can lean to double.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
It's just it's just a little bit harder.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And then when you're not putting any game plan in, yeah,
you know, in other words, you're spending you know, a
night and a half with what you're you know, you
can appreciate. Then a player like that, they're so they're
so they're so quarterback friendly because they're they're in they're
they're just closer to the position the halfback that's an
(15:42):
elite receiver, the tight end. Those guys are really a
quarterback friend. And so I'm anxious to watch because we
didn't really have a lot of idy crossover tape. We
played them in the preseason last year. Zach had an
unbelievable game, Wilson. But I'm anxious to watch that other
side of the ball and watch and appreciate maybe what
(16:06):
you guys saw and how he's playing. But when you
get one, they're hard to find. They're they're valuable.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
He's the joker and obviously went on through that full
minute gushing about that type of player. Dude, they're going
to draft a tight end in one of the first
two rounds of the next two drafts. They're going to
find someone that they fall in love with and they
will draft the next Tray McBride because he knows the
second rounder, dude, he knows. Sean Payton knows this Evan
(16:39):
Ingram thing is a two year deal and that's it
it is. It's not that you're not getting anything more
than this two year deal out of him. And honestly,
I don't know if Sean Payton fully fully believes that
Ingram can get to that level.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I think he doesn't know. Yeah, we also have to
remember that what we've seen are the practices that the
public can be at and they can film. And so
if you make a huge emphasis of creating schemes and
touches for Evan Ingram, John Payton knows that he's tipping
(17:17):
his hand to the rest of the league schematically, these
are things that we're going to do to get Evan Ingram.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
All I can react to is what I've seen. Ye,
you're right for three weeks.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
But I would say like the offensive structure was at
camp last year felt different than what we saw during
the regular season. And I've always thought that Sean Payton
really really holds back, really holds in some of the
scheme that he ends up employing during the regular season.
So I'd say that that is going to be a
(17:46):
component of Evan Ingram. I'm standing by the fact I'm
gonna stand strongly on this hill that Evan Ingram is
without a question going to have a very very significant
season this season this year for Broncos. He's gonna have
a it's gonna be big. He looks healthy, and that's
another part of it. When you haven't had full health
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in a couple of years, do you really want to
exhaust every aspect of having Ingram in training camp. I
think Bonix and him have a fine They have a
good enough a fine connection right now, But now it's
just about how does it all, how does it all
play together in real time?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Does the assumed addition of like Ingram being a big
time target for both this year and again, I'm just
reacting based off of what I've seen at camp, and
it just hasn't felt like a focal point. Let's say
I'm completely wrong, You're totally right Ingram steps in. He's
a big time target. Does that allow you to cut
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more wide receivers than you would normally be comfortable cutting
to get down to that true fifty three because he's
not a true tight end, because as he is a
guy who's going to be split off the water of scrimmage,
split off your off your tackles more often than not.
Your six wide receivers right now are Sutton Mims, Veile, Bryant, Franklin, Sherfield.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Who are you cutting? Sherfield's making the teams as Darren
Rizzy's take, and he gives you value value at the
receiver position. So really that's a special team's take. That
was a special team's acquisition. So that's five.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Your cuts, your cuts right now. Michael Bandy, Joaquin Davis.
My favorite player in camp, Jerwan Newton, Tyrese Rowan, Yep.
Never felt like he was going to make the team,
but he could be a practice squad guy. He's been
featured a lot in special teams.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
He actually gives you value as a scout team player
on practice squad because he's got high at high end
speed and he's a bit more of those Uh, he's
a bit more of one of those non shut Sean
Payton prototypes.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Blad McConkey.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yeah, is a smaller. He's smaller, he shiftier, doesn't really
quite fit.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
So there's no chance that my dude, Joaquin Davis makes
the team. And it makes me so sad because he
has been delightful to watch all camp long.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Any chance he makes a practice squad, yes, And I
don't know that Joaquin Davis would get would get picked
up off with.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean unless he shows out because obviously what we
heard from Peyton is that there might be six to
ten type or guys who have eight plays in them
in terms of your first teamers this weekend, just because
you simply have to have bodies to go out there
and play football. He's gonna be one of the guys
that gets, you know, three and a half quarters of
full run. Maybe he goes and he balls out and
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someone likes him, they pick him up.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
It's fact him being off the team wouldn't affect what
the Broncos do this year. Would just you know, make
me sad because I was hoping that he's going to
be the undrafted college free agent that makes the team,
because they always have one. Twenty twenty one years, they
always have an undrafted college free agent make the team.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I don't think there's gonna be one this year. There's
there's no space.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
You're undrafted free agents right now. Joaquin Davis, Newton, Rowan,
Courtney Jackson play web on the offense. Maybe one of
the offensive line or lineman makes it. Josh Pickett the corner,
Jaden Robinson the corner.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
None of none of the inside linebackers from this undrafted
free agent class. Look, because that's the position of need
right now. A little banged up with Dre green Law,
Drew Sanders still is not fully returned to practice from
anything I've seen, Alex Singleton back, but m.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
That's a position.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
If the Broncos are looking at themselves like we should
have probably addressed it somehow, some way from a depth standpoint.
Knowing that your two starters are guys that have injuries recently.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
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mcluin of CBS five in Phoenix. How are you, Mark,
Welcome in.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Hey, good morning, Thanks for having me on. Hey.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
We're juiced up to have you getting ready for Saturday
night's game, where unfortunately both Gann and Peyton and you
know told us that the ones aren't gonna go against
each other. We did see plenty of that yesterday in
our takeaway since we were right on top of the
Denver first team offense against the the Arizona first team
defense is for the first time in like two weeks,
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the first team offense for Denver has looked awesome. What
have you heard from the opposite field in terms of
Kyler Murray, Trey McBride, a now Beefeer, Marvin Harrison junior
coming in. What's the overall consensus in Arizona about how
their first team offense looked.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I think a little bit of a little bit of good,
little bit of bad, little bit in between. They made
some plays. They got Sir ten On on an out route.
I think they're pretty happy about that. Kyler didn't talk
after practice, neither did an MHJ. So we're kind of
going off with Trey McBride said, but you know, he
had some catches, the Colorado Native, the Fort Morgan Native,
the tight end for the Cardinals. He had a pretty
good day. I do think it was hot, and I
(23:12):
think the altitude probably didn't play in the cardinals favor.
I think they didn't probably put their best showing out there,
probably one that they wanted. But you know, I think
they came up here for a learning experience and they
definitely you know, saw a team yesterday in the Broncos
that I think is going to be very competitive this season.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Mark if it makes Cardinals fans and the faithful any
feel any better, it happens just about every year you
come to Elevation.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It just does this.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
We actually noticed that we think that Jonathan Gannon actually
built in a minute and a half, like a ninety
second break before each new period started. That was competitive
because we've never seen that at practice for the Broncos.
We thought that was like an elevation acclamation type of
a period. So something of note. But one of the
thing I was gonna ask you about just looking at
(23:59):
this defense the Arizona Cardinals and what Bnick's in this
offense was ultimately able to do. Do you see the
Cardinals defense as, even though it's young, as being taken,
being in a position to take the next right step
under Jonathan getting in and grow together.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I think defense is going to be their strength, but
I think it's going to be the front seven. You've
got a ton of depth up front, and that starts
with thirty eight year old and soon to be a
thirty nine year old Denver native Kalais Campbell, who told
us yesterday this might be his last year. I don't
believe him. I think he's gonna keep playing as long
as he can. But you've got some great pass rushers there.
You've got Josh Sweat, who just wrecked shop in the
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Super Bowl for the Eagles against the Kansas City Chiefs,
and then Baron Browning, a guy that you know very
well from his time here in Denver, coming off the
edge along with the guy is Avin Collins, who they're
calling a unicorn. So I think, you know the front
seven is going to be the strength of the team.
Will Johnson, one of their corners, are rookie from Michigan.
He was the MVP of the National Championship Game two
(24:59):
years ago, so that was kind of his first real
you know, look at NFL speed and you know mixed results.
He did get beat a couple of times. It's a
little difficult for us to see because we were watching
the offense from one angle. It wasn't very elevated. And
and by the way, if any of you want to
like have a side sunscreen business here in Denver for
(25:20):
those out of towners, you don't realize how close we
are to the sun, let me know because I'll invest. Man,
I didn't realize how smoked I was going to get
yesterday not reapplying sunscreen.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Dude, it gets hot out there at Trading Camp. We're
very happy to be back inside the backus in Shanker
Studios today. Mark mclun of CBS five in Phoenix is
our guest on the Ramos Law Hotline. Talk to me
about the expectations in the NFC West, right. You obviously
have a team in the Rams that are Super Bowl hopeful,
trying to squeeze the last juice out of the lemon,
(25:51):
that is Matthew Stafford. But the rest of the division
kind of feels wide open. Can you can Seattle get
the same version of Sam Darnold that Minnesota got last year.
What the heck are the forty nine ers without talanoa Hufanga,
dra Greenlaw and now a forty plus million dollar version
of Brock Party. Does Arizona feel as though like this
(26:12):
is finally the year that you can take advantage of
an NFC West.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, I think absolutely. It's gonna start with the strong
start because the schedule's not that hard. Out of the blocks.
They start with New Orleans, then they're home to the
Panthers and Jacksonville. They do have this the Seahawks on
a Thursday night game in late September. I think that's
gonna be the kind of you know, litmus test right there,
because it becomes a gauntlet after Thanksgiving. They're gonna have
to get get out of the blocks quick. But yeah,
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San Francisco, I mean they always seem to put it
together there. We watched them pretty closely in Arizona because
Brock Party with the high school in the Phoenix area
and his story is just incredible, didn't have any any
d one offers going into a senior year, and then
all of a sudden Bama offers them, and then he
goes to Iowa State and sets the world on fire.
You know, still monitoring Matt Stafford and you will see
if the back holds up. And yeah, Sam Darnald in Seattle,
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you would think they would just be able to kind
of pick up pick up what he was doing and
what they were doing last year. But I think there's
some confidence in Arizona. I think it feels like Arizona's
on the rise. How quickly they can get there. It's
all going to depend on Kyler Murray if he can
take the next step. And there's there's just there's it's
such a divided camp on Kyler in the valley because
it's now year seven and there's been one playoff game.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
You're selling geez, it is wild to think that Kyler
Murray has been playing call of duty and also employed
by the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Now he's that battlefield guy this weekend.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Yeah, without question. When do you look at the NFC
West landscape? Is this one of the most unique divisions
in football because of the the the boomer bust nature
of just about every team and how they've been up
and down between the Niners going to the Super Bowl
and then essentially being a shell of who they were
the year the next year and the Seahawks, what do
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they have? The Cardinals seem like they've been a little
bit more of a steady CLI as of late. And
and then of course you know, the Rams look like
maybe the team to be. What do you make of
the NFC West, What are you guys seeing as it
relates to the cardinals chances in that division?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Well, and and full disclaimer, I don't watch a lot
of the NFC South, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I got to put all my time and out, and
I mean the.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
AFC West is so much fun to watch as well,
and we show a lot of those games on CBS
five and Phoenix. Yeah, I think the Cardinals are built
for the long term money Austin for their general manager.
I mean, he was a Patriots personnel guy with Belichick
and Brady and then he went to Tennessee and helped
build that so he knows what he's doing. And this
is a big year for Kyler. I mean I actually
sat down with Kyler and it's going to air on
(28:39):
our pregame coverage and then it's I'm gonna blast that
out on social media just about you know, his expectations
for the year, because I asked him, I was like,
how do you kind of balance, you know, like like
having to take the next step and putting those expectations
out there and kind of the narratives that are out there.
And he even said it, He's like, I I mean,
people want to say this is make or break, boom
or bust for us, but I got to take it.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Day by day.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I think he really believes that. I think he's in
a good spot. It's just can it translate to wins?
I think that's the biggest thing, you know, And maybe
there's just some elements to being out west. You know,
the NFC West, everything's boom or bust and it's been
that way since eighteen forty nine.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
What's the biggest thing that holds Kyler Murray back from
breaking through?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Well, I mean the knee injury three years ago set
him back, he says, the knees back to feeling like.
I mean, he miss missed time with a torn acl
and came back two years ago for the last four games.
And I don't think he's run as much as he
did before. I mean, I love seeing him run. It's
such a weapon. I would love to see them bootleg
him and turn the corner and the defense has to
(29:41):
pick their poison runner pass. I don't think they're going
to give away all of their secrets right now in
the preseason, but I do think it's not putting enough
pressure on the defense. And when Kyler sits back in
the pocket and has to throw, I mean the height
he's shorter than the rest of his offensive lineman, and
when he gets out in space, he's one of the
most dynamic players in the NFL. Now he also throws
(30:02):
one of the best balls in the NFL. So I
think it's just putting it together, you know. For the
for the Cardinals, they lost five to six down the
stretch last year and they have to run the ball
with James Connor and Marvin Harrison. Junior has to turn
into a guy who was who was drafted with the
number four overall pick. Last year. He had a good
season for rookie, comparable with Larry Fitzgerald, but it wasn't nearly,
(30:24):
you know, like a Jamar Chase type season.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
ESPN came out with an article three days ago that
talked about the future rankings of NFL franchises, and part
of that was a big time prediction in twenty twenty seven,
and the big prediction that ESPN had here in Denver
was well, Bo Knicks won't be the quarterback of the
Denver Broncos. What is more likely in twenty twenty seven
(30:47):
Bow Knicks is not the quarterback of the Broncos or
Kyler Murray is not the quarterback the Arizona CA.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Wow, And I think it. I don't know the search
to that. I mean, I think I could see it
going either way for both guys. I think in sitting
down and talking to Kyler, he's in a really good
spot now. If it if it doesn't go well, if
it's I mean, if they win ten games and don't
go to the playoffs, I think you bring him back.
(31:15):
If they win eight games, I think that's the scenario
where they look in the draft and they look to rebuild.
So you know, I mean, I would be very surprised.
To me, I would think Bo Nicks would would be
like a guy that you would, you know, uh, build
build around for the long term. But I don't know,
is Tbo coming back? Is that the story?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I think you just had a kid.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I think he's out in Arizona. We see him from
time to time, so I'll check in and see if
he's I mean it seems like he could still run
over people.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Hey, Sean Payne's still looking for his joker. He couldn't
stop gushing about Trey mcbribes. Is why I was saying, like,
does he really love it? Evan Ingram here, Tim Tebow
could have been the joker.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Play tight endive is just give him a cowboy caller
and let him go run through people's faces.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Don't you miss it? Don't? I mean? I just miss TBO.
I wanted I wanted, like the the UFL to sign TBO,
Vince Young, Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I was waiting for the Texas to come out of you.
You had to get me off.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir, absolutely, man forever.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
As we get out of here. And I know we've
got an interview to get into very quickly arch banning
the real deal or not the real Deal.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I was just talking to sam Acho about this. Who's
the Cardinals, who's a preseason analyst? Yeah, he's great people,
I mean just in a great heart for just everybody,
and I mean he's just just just a good man
and h And we sat down and we actually did
an interview for the pregame show, and my first question
was like, hey, man, how do you think Arch is
going to do this year? We both started laughing. We
didn't use the answer, but I think everybody's interested. And
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you know, he says, you stand next to him and
he looks like he's drawn Arch, you know, six foot four,
two hundred and twenty pounds or whatever he is. But
you know, we just have to see him throw the
ball well in a big game. I think that's the
last step. And then you're like, all right, let's go,
let's make our plan for late January. So super excited,
but yeah, you know, it's college football. It's kids that
are turning into men, and you never know what's going
(33:08):
to happen. But I've never been more bullish on the Longhorns,
even though we are the underdog in the Horseshoe on
August at thirty.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
The underdog is the number one team in the country.
How's that work that, Mark McClune of CBS five in Phoenix.
We appreciate your time, brother, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Yeah, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Broncos and Cardinals seven thirty on Saturday evening, week two
of the preseason. We'll take a quick time out. Don't
go anywhere. This is Altitude Sports Radio ninety two to five.
Talk to me about the expectations in the NFC West. Right,
You obviously have a team in the Rams that are
super Bowl hopeful, trying to squeeze the last juice out
of the lemon that is Matthew Stafford. But the rest
(33:48):
of the division kind of feels wide open. Can you
can Seattle get the same version of Sam Darnold that
Minnesota got last year? What the heck are the forty
nine ers without Taloono Hufanga, Dra Greenlow and now a
forty plus million dollar version of Brock Party. Does Arizona
feel as though like this is finally the year that
you can take advantage of an NFC West What.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Do you look at the NFC West landscape? Is this
one of the most unique divisions in football because of
the boomer bust nature of just about every team and
how they've been up and down between the Niners going
to the Super Bowl and then essentially being a shell
of who they were the year the next year, and
the Seahawks, what do they have? The Cardinals seem like
(34:32):
they've been a little bit more of a steady climb
as of late, and then of course you know the
Rams look like maybe the team to be. What do
you make of the NFC West? What are you guys
seeing as it relates to the Cardinals chances in that division?
You lombardied me, Is that my first career Lombardi?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
You lombardied me? Is it my first career Lombardi? I
think it is.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I don't know if you ever lombardied Dempsey, but that's
the first time.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I don't think I ever Lombardi Dempsey.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I do think what we can take out of those
two clips, we're very verbose, very those are those are
you know what? So we need to you lombardied me.
But we moasured Mark mccluten.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
We told him how much we know, yes, before we
asked him what he knows yes. So that's the mosure
and the Lombardi is officially defined as I'm going to
follow up the question that was just asked and answered
by the exact same question.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Save exact question.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
So that's really interesting about how how do you cane something?
Can you cane something?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Keep it to twelve words or fewer?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Is he he's pretty pretty st Yeah, Nelly? Can we
nellie it?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Nellie's verbose Nelly likes to talk. We love Nelly.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Nelly just took his head sets off and is now
responding and reacting. You want to know how you can
break Cannag's do this three oh three, five oh four,
h nine to five.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Hey man, catch you wherever you get your podcast?
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Yeah, very good, very very well.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I loved that. Very interesting about the NFC West. So
tell us about the NFC West.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
So we got had a good time. Yeah, we real
our listeners are so prepared for the twenty five season
in the National Football League's NFC West. They're ready to go.
We really covered that.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I think it's disingenuous to only talk about the AFC
West as a football fan. As a Bronco fan, you
care about more than the AFC West. The vast majority
of football fans out there are not only obsessed with
their team's division. I care. I don't care as much
about the AFC South, but I am interested in what
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happens with Houston and Jacksonville this.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Year in our market with our fans, what would you
say is the number one followed division outside of the
AFC West.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I would assume it's the NFC East.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Really by our market here in Denver, Dallas, is there Dallas. Yeah,
they have tons of Texans here in the There's a
lot of Californians, right, So it's almost weird because the
Rams really have an indigenous fan base that like, if
(37:26):
you're a transplant from La here in Denver, are you
really a Rams fan? You're a Lakers fan and a
Dodgers fan. We know that, and then you're just trying
to figure out what the heck you are? NFL was
are They're real, real, real, real Rams fans, like generational
Rams fans that live in southern California. I'm from there.
(37:47):
They were the they were the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
When you leave a state, when you leave a state,
it's really hard to retain those fans.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Especially when you start talking about transplants. Yeah, because said
they're not they're they're they're at least several years to
decades removed from from that fan base or from that
team and having them as their local team.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
According to Westward, Okay, this was done. This was done
in twenty nineteen, so this has changed a little bit.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So my faux pas about asking the same question about
the NFC West as you did led to an interesting
little conversation.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I never said it was a bad thing. I just
wanted to make fun of you.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
You should because that's a very bad.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I'm just taking advantage of Sanford on three hours of sleep.
I don't get to do this often, but when I
have the opportunity, I'm going to swing at the pitch.
Texas two hundred thousand transplants in Denver. Again, this is
twenty nineteen, so this could be plus or minus.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
So we got to say Cowboys because the Houston Texans aren't.
Have they really captured the fan base. The people that
have moved here from Houston in the last twenty five years,
are they die hard Texan fans?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I probably not the same thing, right, New York one
hundred and thirty five thousand, Illinois one hundred and fifty
five thousands.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
There are a lot of Bears. There's a ton of Midwesterner. Sure,
it's the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I think Kansas in California with three hundred and sixty
five thousand transplants to Denver. Again, this is twenty nineteen
according to Westward.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
All right, so I'm gonna throw it out there. The
number one biggest fan base represented outside of the Broncos
here in the state of Colorado. Forty nine ers and
I've seen it. There's forty nine ers bars in this
in this town, multiple plural, it's forty nine ers bars two.
I just Dallas, Dallas, Calvin, I just gave you Dallas
and New York though, right, do you think that's the
(39:34):
same that is the same division. I guess when you
go when you go to a Rangers I know you
go to a Rangers Avs game in ball at Ball Arena.
It is very heavy Ranger fan base. Although you would
say that the fact that there's NFC East and AFC
East divided between Jets and Giants, are you gonna get
one team or one division that's really closely watched by
(39:57):
a big percentage, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say it's
NFC north Man. There's a ton of Minte Sutton's. There's
a ton of uh and they hang too.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
They hang on to their fandom. That's the Chicago fan
hangs on to the fandom, not like not like Ernie,
your du Ernie, you're my dude. Here it is on
the text line, he goes, guys. I moved here from
San Diego in ninety one, and I was a Chargers
fan when I was there, actually worked for the team
for two years and got to travel with them. But
once I got to Colorado, you can't help but be
(40:27):
a Broncos fan because it's just so Broncos crazy here
and I love it. That's the transplant that I love.
The guy that goes to a state and forgets his fandom.
I love that part of that part of you, Ernie.
That's that is the best thing you can possibly be.
You move to a new place, you're now a fan
of those teams. You can have your fandom live in
(40:50):
a locked shoe box in your closet from the team
that you or the city that you came from. But
you don't go to Ballreina where to Blackhawks Jersey. You
don't go to Mile High wearing a Bears jersey or
Raiders jersey. You know what, there is one fan that
I hate way more than the person who moved here
(41:11):
thirty years ago and hasn't found a way to be
a diehard of the teams that are actually here. It's
the person that was born here, grew up here, and
wants to be a fan of the opposite team, the
rival team, just to be that person that's.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
A bad, bad fan, bad fan, bad human, unless it's
passed down by maybe family, because that's me. That was
me in southern California. I hadn't ever lived in area.
Are you Giants fan?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Are you a heavier? Are you a what football team?
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Did you grow up loving wherever my dad was coaching.
I sound so dumb, but yeah, I mean it was.
It was USC football, and then until my dad coached
in the NFL, which he did for the San Diego
Chargers ninety seven to two thousand and one, it was
really whoever my favorite player was at the time. So
I was really into the nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears
(42:02):
four or five, six years after the fact, because I
had an unbelievable NFL Films documentary, You are a VHS tape.
I am a real vagabond, real vagabond. The only team
that is deep to me? It cuts deep, and I
hate the fact that they were a team that looked
like they were a showing for the playoffs and now
they're three or four games under five hundred and that's
(42:23):
the Raphael Devers San Francisco Giants that have been tanking.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Well, it's like my mets. I love my Mets. But
I won't be caught dead wearing a Mets hat to
a Mets Rockies game here in Denver. Won't do it.
Won't do it.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
You wouldn't wear you wouldn't have a Mets fat.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
I love the Mets. I love the Mets. I cried
when they lost the two thousand Subway Series. I had
World Series tickets in twenty fifteen, went there and got
kicked out of city Field. I love the Mets.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
Got kicked out of city Field for what I had.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
I had one beers. Okay, yeah, I had.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
I had one beers. I heard stuff that I had
one beers and stood stood.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
On top of a railing that I didn't realize had
a forty foot drop underneath me.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
So it's a miracle that you're you're physically with me today.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
I was swaying a little bit and then New York's
Finals dragged me down, then told me to exit the premises.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
Dragged you down?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah, they just grabbed me.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
Oh, I thought you meant like tackled you over the railing.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
I got him. But no, I love my Mets. But
if they're playing the Rockies, I'll go to a game
I'm not wearing a piazza jersey. I'm not doing it.
I adopted that four or three. He goes, Tell me,
when does Brett have to abandon the lines? You don't
have to abandon the team. But if you're going to
a game here in Denver and you've been here for
a long time, it disgusts me if you wear the
(43:44):
jersey of the other team, just does, just does, just
how I feel?
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Man?
Speaker 5 (43:49):
What about me having lived here for three and a
half years, die hard San Francisco Giant fan? Am I
not allowed to wear a Giant Series under my rules?
Speaker 2 (43:59):
No?
Speaker 5 (44:01):
I'm sorry. I violated the commandment's according.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
To her, I think you've been here long enough that
you violated a commandment. If you've been here for one, two,
three years, maybe I can be Okay.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
Does it count with the Colorado Rockies.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
That's a great question, Come on, a fantastic question.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
I mean, you gotta think about it, about it? What
is keeping the Colorado Rockies business model afloat.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Beers, beers and opposing fans?
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Amen?
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Damn, don't pull holes in my argument.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Although although as a Colorado sports fan, a lover of
Colorado sports scene, is it not better if you don't
wear your jersey of the opposing team to a Rockies game,
and you essentially just don't go at all, because then
the business model is not working for the Rockies. Alix
says a sale of the team could potentially happen.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Alex says not sure if you can call it love
if you're ashamed to be seen with them in public.
I'm not ashamed to be a Mets fan in public.
I just love the state of Colorado, I know, and
I love the Colorado. You're raised Colorado sport fan.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
You are big time born and raised.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Here more than the Mets, and I'm okay with you.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
Are actually born here, right?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
No?
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Oh, that's right?
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Are you born in born in Philly?
Speaker 5 (45:21):
Philly.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I don't remember living anywhere else. Moved here when I
was like three years old, like this is home, but
I don't, so you are.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
For intensive purposes, every single formative memory is in the
state of Colorado.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I don't have any memories from anywhere else. I love
Colorado sport fan more than I love my family bred
New York Mets fandom.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
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Speaker 1 (45:57):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Fair question. I probably was gonna get to this. I
haven't done this before. I haven't had two joint practices before.
So I'm gonna I'm not gonna play. Neither Jonathan or
myself were gonna play the ones. Now there'll be a few,
Like there's five, five six players that are on an
eight play pitch count.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Real quick with.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Nick, he had a little spur on the top of
his foot. All right now, I had two spurs removed
on my big toe and that hurt like them, you
know what, And so I'm a little bit. I'm still recovering.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's better.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
His is something that we just had done and we
knew that he was gonna miss this week. He'll be
up and at it next week. So he's been fan fantastic.
His miss and the daisy's missed has been this simple
bum spur in a unique spot on the top of
the foot. It's not weight bearing. He went ahead and
(01:11):
had it done I think three stitches. The goal would
be to have him back at practice next week getting
some work against normals.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Those are the words of Sean Payton following yesterday's joint
practice with the Arizona Cardinals. We are back in studio.
Training camp for us being out there live is now
wrapped up for the twenty twenty five these er season.
Thank you so much to our friends at Ramos Law
for being out there with us as we welcome you
guys into the morning sprint on a Friday Coach Mike Sandford, Alex, Ryan,
(01:39):
Emmy and you guys three oh three, five oh four
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for Saturday evenings Week two preseason matchup. Where As you
heard the coach say, well, we're not really going to
see anybody play.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
This is the right decision. There's there's no doubt in
my mind that you got enough out of two joint
practices and the most important piece of this puzzle is
that you got the performance out of Bononix that you
needed for Bonnicks, but also obviously for this this entire offense.
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To get to get the confidence and get the groove
back a little bit that was Yesterday was a that's
how Stella got her groove back kind of day and
it was good.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I as the practice progressed, you and I doing the
show live from training camp are very last one. Man,
I'm gonna miss it, especially after yesterday. It makes me
really miss it because that was a lot of fun,
was it? Not Alex just another team out there? Not fun?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Are you in a miss training camp? I will miss
that day of training camp and the Wednesday that was
super super like physical. Remember the Wednesday, July thirtieth practice
basically the last good practice that It was the.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
One where JK. Dobbins And who did Dobbins beak with
that day?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Well, Malcolm Roach was was yeah. And then of course
Marvin Mims came out either after that practice it and
talked about what he's he's a fat what he says,
he's fat guy or something like that, somebody that he
body shamed him. What you're allowed to do? Your football
is a sport. Apparently that that it's politically correct. A
body shame just cool.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I guess that was the day that you knew Talanoa
Hufanga and Drake Greenlaw were the energy leaders of this defense. Yeah,
I'll miss those days. I will certainly miss those energy days.
I will not miss what happened on Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, they were. Unfortunately, there are too many of those
type of days that were.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Just like and I gotta be honest, man, what are
we watching?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
What are we seeing?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Even though the energy was vastly different yesterday, and that
was something that you could feel like if how you
were there in person, you could feel at the Broncos,
especially their first team offense, was there ready to perform,
and they did they needed to do that. It still
felt as though coach that there were some portions of
practice that just it should have been faster. It lacked
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energy for me from a from like a management standpoint,
and I think that's a Sean Payton thing.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I don't actually I think it was actually an Arizona
Cardinals John hilly gannon thing. So what I noticed is
that people would be in position to move on to
the next drill the next period, they were in position,
and then they would just wait. And I wonder if
there was a little built in recovery, elevation acclamation piece
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of the puzzles that you didn't just sprint to the
next drill and start the start.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
The period because Denver was moving the whole time. Yeah,
in the moment they got out there move.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Did you notice that too, though, before any team period started,
they would transition to that place and then it was
like a minute and a half to two and a
half minute of just standing.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Before the horn. I think that was it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And the same thing happened to the last team or
team period where it was no timeouts. I want to say,
there was like a minute or something on the clock
and you had to move yourself into field goal position.
And while the Broncos did get into field goal position,
I believe they hit one there at the end there
were two sacks, including two quarterback hits from klay As
Campbell on bow Nick. So like, while it felt positive,
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that was the only time the Arizona defense really did
get to Denver. Yeah, I did feel as though that
they were ready to get into a period and then
there was a lull, and that's probably where I was
feeling there was one little piece of energy that was missing.
That was it.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
The wild thing about that is a lot of these
NFL franchise employ sports science people like doctors in sports
science and that could have been an agreed upon component
of practice, because you're you're going up at least four
thousand feet in elevation, and you and I did look
at it. You were right. The Arizona Cardinals Stadium is
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the third highest elevation stadium in all of pro football.
Las Vegas is number two. You were right, rash, I
got a tipped.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Cap, thank you.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
But still even then, I mean, you're talking about what
Vegas is at sixteen hundred feet elevation maybe seventeen years.
You're split here and then Arizona is at like one fifty.
You're split in here. But even then, teams that have
come to joint practices in Denver against Denver probably outside
of there was a I guess a really bad joint
practice in Denver with either Russell Wilson's first or second
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year is either Sean's.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The Cowboys practice.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Cowboys practice was that Nathaniel Hackett. That was a dumpster
fire from everything I was able to hear about. But
you notice that a lot of visiting teams, every single
one of them, are making at least a four thousand
foot climb in elevation. Outside of the Vegas Raiders, they
have to build some things in because they they want
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to acclimatize the elevation. So I think that's why the
energy is dippy.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Are the Broncos technically a home team against the Jets
when they go to London? Are they technically home?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Are they giving up a home game this year? Because
if we're talking about built in advantages, and I know,
like you should beat the crap out of New York,
like that should be a an afterthought game. You should
kill the Jets. But if you're giving up a home game,
I don't necessarily love that. If we're talking about built
in advantages playing the New York Jets are.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
The home team?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Okay, all right, there we go.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
So Denver Broncos at New York Jets on October twelfth live.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, you essentially remove a road game this year.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Where is is that?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Is that game at Tottenham?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Oh? Nice to Tottenham Tartenham.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's artam the Broncos and the Jets a Tattenham.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
You just you got your nice uh fresh from Ireland? Guinness?
Is that from the actual Guinness Brewery? Is the Guinness Brewery?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Like, big dude, it's massive?
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Is it really cool? Oh?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Do they have like do they have I pas there?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Do they have different like they have like a blonde.
I've had the blonde, and they have there's zero zero
one if you're into like drinking non alcoholic beers.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
And there's been a lot of that's articles out today. Hey,
you know what that's called beers? That'd be the zero beers. Hey, rush,
let's get tonight. Let's get together tonight on a Friday
and just smash zero beers.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Let's go have some zero beers. There's been articles coming
out about how like the you know, the the mega
decline of drinking and gen Z and stuff like.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
That, and you already know what you know? What the uh?
When the state of Utah had a cap on the
alcohol percentage on beers, did you know that? Yep? Three
two beers right? And there's some other states, I believe,
even in the Upper Midwest. I can't remember what states
in particular.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well, for a while in Colorado, if you had a
liquor license at it was Colorado grocery store, you could
only sell three two beers.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Right, So that's called Hey, you want to get together
and just slam a bunch of near beers beers?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I love that fantastic.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
That's that's actually a real say in Utah. All the
all the derelicts that live in Utah that aren't members
of the church, aren't following the the ways of the
Utah Church.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
No, the Guinness Factory tour is a must go, absolutely
must see you.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Would you swim in a pool of Guinness? Yes? I
totally five four nine two five. If given the opportunity
to jump in a vat of freshly brewed guinness, would
you just take a nice little swim? Would you open
your eyes underwater?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It was the only no, I would not. It was
the only thing I had in Ireland. I was gonna,
you know, I like my whiskey, but I like, you know,
more of a bourbon guy.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Irish whiskey is good.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It is.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
You don't love it.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's too scotchy for me.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Like PD Scotch. I hate p D Scotch. It's the
like it's it's like, did somebody put their throw a
cigarette in this Scotch? Like this bourbon? Take your cigarette
out Brett Kane's dad. I don't want cigarettes in my
dad gum bourbon.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
The guinnesses are supposed to be low calorie too, what Yeah,
it's a lower You think it's a heavy beer because
it is a darker beer. It's a lower calorie beer. Yeah,
so that's all I had. I had a bunch of
the item free. I don't know that. I probably should
have been listening a little bit more. I was too
enthralled with the actual like art of the you know,
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two minutes and second love that and it's different.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Man.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
They don't want the poor to be side glass, sideways glass?
Do they like three quarter angle straight straight?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Top it. Yeah, it's a whole thing, and that it
has to sit.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
And that's the best way apparently to pour a beer
is to make it foamy, because then the what what
gives you the berths and the indigestion and sometimes the
beer farts. It's sometimes the uh beiritutes is beard is
that you don't let the carbonation actually burn out on
the poor. So that's how you're that's the way you
learned the to what is it? How how long is it?
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Two minute poor?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't know what it is off the top mind,
but the two.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Minute poor is essentially what you need to get done.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
The length of a Guinness poor, of a proper guinness poor.
Ish I should know this off the top of my head.
I was just there. Sorry, is one hundred and twenty
seconds just under two minutes?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Are are you kidding right now? What one hundred and
twenty seconds is under two minutes?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Sorry? One nineteen point five. I round it up two
minutes on the nose, one hundred and twenty seconds, But
one nineteen point five is the actual number according to Guinness.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Oh is it really so? It's just under one hundred
nineteen point five. Yes, that's really cool. I thought you
were telling me that one hundred and twenty seconds is
under two minutes.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I think I actually said that that I was in
my head. It was a great say. I was looking
at the number in front of my face right now.
Is one nineteen point five? So yes, just under two minutes.
But then, me being you know who I am, I
rounded up on the.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Point five because why not.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Eighty nine point five B plus Nope, that's a name
minus brother three oh three five oh four oh nine
two five is where you guys can reach us. Today
we're gonna get into the weeds about this depth chart
and start talking about cuts. Because Sean Payton got into it.
He talked forever yesterday, and he got into all of
these very difficult cuts that they're gonna have to make
at offensive line, at running back, at wide receiver. Is
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my guy Joaquin Davis gonna make the team. There's just
not enough damn spots. We'll get into it next.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
The New York jetsund are the home team.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Okay, all right, there we go.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
So Denver Broncos at New York Jets on October twelfth Live.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, you essentially remove a road game this year.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Where is is that?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Is that game at Tottenham?
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Oh? Nice to Tottenham, Dartnham. It's still Dartnam, the.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Broncos and the Jets Tottenham.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Tell me how many quarters are there in an American
football game?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Uh, I'd say six.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I'm going to take wild guess and say five.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Oh, Colin, you try to make me look stupid.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Four. Four. Asking Britt how many quarters are in a game,
it's like asking me if one hundred and twenty seconds
is equivalent to two minutes. We have to pause and
think for a second there. In my defense, one nineteen
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and a half is just shy or just shy of
two minutes. But yes, quarters would typically mean four. That's
how that works. You fall in their coach Welcome back.
Three oh three, five oh four, oh nine two five
is where you can reach us. Today we will be
joined by CBS five in Phoenix. The sports director Mark
(13:56):
mcclun will join us at ten twenty five to talk
about Saturday evenings game between the Broncos and the Cardinals.
But we didn't get to see a whole bunch of
the Arizona offense yesterday. It was on the far side
of the field. It was basically it was reactionary and
it was typically Marvin Harrison does something cool. Trey McBride
(14:17):
looks like the best tight end in football, and that's
basically it. Trey McBride's a freak.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
He is big time. Anytime I peeked over on the
far side of the field yesterday, Trey McBride was making plays.
It's the best player on your team. I do think
that Marvin Harrison Junior is gonna have a big year
after watching what I saw yesterday. I don't know how
the full practice played out. I don't know if there
was many reports about it, but it seemed like the
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beginning the onset of practice, Marvin Harrison Junior like established
himself as as a dude that was on the field
in just physical dimensions and physical attributes just look different.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Here's Sean Payton speaking about the former CSU ram Kree McBride.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean, look, that's a joker, right, And so
when you and you.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Get paid, those.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Those players become more difficult than the blue chip receiver
out here that we can lean to double.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
It's just it's just a little bit harder.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And then when you're not putting any game plan in, yeah,
you know, in other words, you're spending you know, a
night and a half with what you're you know, you
can appreciate. Then a player like that, they're so they're
so they're so quarterback friendly because they're they're in they're
they're just closer to the position the halfback that's an
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elite receiver, the tight end. Those guys are really a
quarterback friend. And so I'm anxious to watch because we
didn't really have a lot of idy crossover tape. We
played them in the preseason last year. Zach had an
unbelievable game, Wilson. But I'm anxious to watch that other
side of the ball and watch and appreciate maybe what
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you guys saw and how he's playing. But when you
get one, they're hard to find. They're they're valuable.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
He's the joker and obviously went on through that full
minute gushing about that type of player. Dude, they're going
to draft a tight end in one of the first
two rounds of the next two drafts. They're going to
find someone that they fall in love with and they
will draft the next Tray McBride because he knows the
second rounder, dude, he knows. Sean Payton knows this Evan
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Ingram thing is a two year deal and that's it
it is. It's not that you're not getting anything more
than this two year deal out of him. And honestly,
I don't know if Sean Payton fully fully believes that
Ingram can get to that level.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I think he doesn't know. Yeah, we also have to
remember that what we've seen are the practices that the
public can be at and they can film. And so
if you make a huge emphasis of creating schemes and
touches for Evan Ingram, John Payton knows that he's tipping
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his hand to the rest of the league schematically, these
are things that we're going to do to get Evan Ingram.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
All I can react to is what I've seen. Ye,
you're right for three weeks.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
But I would say like the offensive structure was at
camp last year felt different than what we saw during
the regular season. And I've always thought that Sean Payton
really really holds back, really holds in some of the
scheme that he ends up employing during the regular season.
So I'd say that that is going to be a
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component of Evan Ingram. I'm standing by the fact I'm
gonna stand strongly on this hill that Evan Ingram is
without a question going to have a very very significant
season this season this year for Broncos. He's gonna have
a it's gonna be big. He looks healthy, and that's
another part of it. When you haven't had full health
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in a couple of years, do you really want to
exhaust every aspect of having Ingram in training camp. I
think Bonix and him have a fine They have a
good enough a fine connection right now, But now it's
just about how does it all, how does it all
play together in real time?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Does the assumed addition of like Ingram being a big
time target for both this year and again, I'm just
reacting based off of what I've seen at camp, and
it just hasn't felt like a focal point. Let's say
I'm completely wrong, You're totally right Ingram steps in. He's
a big time target. Does that allow you to cut
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more wide receivers than you would normally be comfortable cutting
to get down to that true fifty three because he's
not a true tight end, because as he is a
guy who's going to be split off the water of scrimmage,
split off your off your tackles more often than not.
Your six wide receivers right now are Sutton Mims, Veile, Bryant, Franklin, Sherfield.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Who are you cutting? Sherfield's making the teams as Darren
Rizzy's take, and he gives you value value at the
receiver position. So really that's a special team's take. That
was a special team's acquisition. So that's five.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Your cuts, your cuts right now. Michael Bandy, Joaquin Davis.
My favorite player in camp, Jerwan Newton, Tyrese Rowan, Yep.
Never felt like he was going to make the team,
but he could be a practice squad guy. He's been
featured a lot in special teams.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
He actually gives you value as a scout team player
on practice squad because he's got high at high end
speed and he's a bit more of those Uh, he's
a bit more of one of those non shut Sean
Payton prototypes.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Blad McConkey.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yeah, is a smaller. He's smaller, he shiftier, doesn't really
quite fit.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
So there's no chance that my dude, Joaquin Davis makes
the team. And it makes me so sad because he
has been delightful to watch all camp long.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Any chance he makes a practice squad, yes, And I
don't know that Joaquin Davis would get would get picked
up off with.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean unless he shows out because obviously what we
heard from Peyton is that there might be six to
ten type or guys who have eight plays in them
in terms of your first teamers this weekend, just because
you simply have to have bodies to go out there
and play football. He's gonna be one of the guys
that gets, you know, three and a half quarters of
full run. Maybe he goes and he balls out and
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someone likes him, they pick him up.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
It's fact him being off the team wouldn't affect what
the Broncos do this year. Would just you know, make
me sad because I was hoping that he's going to
be the undrafted college free agent that makes the team,
because they always have one. Twenty twenty one years, they
always have an undrafted college free agent make the team.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I don't think there's gonna be one this year. There's
there's no space.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
You're undrafted free agents right now. Joaquin Davis, Newton, Rowan,
Courtney Jackson play web on the offense. Maybe one of
the offensive line or lineman makes it. Josh Pickett the corner,
Jaden Robinson the corner.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
None of none of the inside linebackers from this undrafted
free agent class. Look, because that's the position of need
right now. A little banged up with Dre green Law,
Drew Sanders still is not fully returned to practice from
anything I've seen, Alex Singleton back, but m.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
That's a position.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
If the Broncos are looking at themselves like we should
have probably addressed it somehow, some way from a depth standpoint.
Knowing that your two starters are guys that have injuries recently.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
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mcluin of CBS five in Phoenix. How are you, Mark,
Welcome in.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Hey, good morning, Thanks for having me on. Hey.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
We're juiced up to have you getting ready for Saturday
night's game, where unfortunately both Gann and Peyton and you
know told us that the ones aren't gonna go against
each other. We did see plenty of that yesterday in
our takeaway since we were right on top of the
Denver first team offense against the the Arizona first team
defense is for the first time in like two weeks,
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the first team offense for Denver has looked awesome. What
have you heard from the opposite field in terms of
Kyler Murray, Trey McBride, a now Beefeer, Marvin Harrison junior
coming in. What's the overall consensus in Arizona about how
their first team offense looked.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I think a little bit of a little bit of good,
little bit of bad, little bit in between. They made
some plays. They got Sir ten On on an out route.
I think they're pretty happy about that. Kyler didn't talk
after practice, neither did an MHJ. So we're kind of
going off with Trey McBride said, but you know, he
had some catches, the Colorado Native, the Fort Morgan Native,
the tight end for the Cardinals. He had a pretty
good day. I do think it was hot, and I
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think the altitude probably didn't play in the cardinals favor.
I think they didn't probably put their best showing out there,
probably one that they wanted. But you know, I think
they came up here for a learning experience and they
definitely you know, saw a team yesterday in the Broncos
that I think is going to be very competitive this season.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Mark if it makes Cardinals fans and the faithful any
feel any better, it happens just about every year you
come to Elevation.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It just does this.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
We actually noticed that we think that Jonathan Gannon actually
built in a minute and a half, like a ninety
second break before each new period started. That was competitive
because we've never seen that at practice for the Broncos.
We thought that was like an elevation acclamation type of
a period. So something of note. But one of the
thing I was gonna ask you about just looking at
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this defense the Arizona Cardinals and what Bnick's in this
offense was ultimately able to do. Do you see the
Cardinals defense as, even though it's young, as being taken,
being in a position to take the next right step
under Jonathan getting in and grow together.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I think defense is going to be their strength, but
I think it's going to be the front seven. You've
got a ton of depth up front, and that starts
with thirty eight year old and soon to be a
thirty nine year old Denver native Kalais Campbell, who told
us yesterday this might be his last year. I don't
believe him. I think he's gonna keep playing as long
as he can. But you've got some great pass rushers there.
You've got Josh Sweat, who just wrecked shop in the
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Super Bowl for the Eagles against the Kansas City Chiefs,
and then Baron Browning, a guy that you know very
well from his time here in Denver, coming off the
edge along with the guy is Avin Collins, who they're
calling a unicorn. So I think, you know the front
seven is going to be the strength of the team.
Will Johnson, one of their corners, are rookie from Michigan.
He was the MVP of the National Championship Game two
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years ago, so that was kind of his first real
you know, look at NFL speed and you know mixed results.
He did get beat a couple of times. It's a
little difficult for us to see because we were watching
the offense from one angle. It wasn't very elevated. And
and by the way, if any of you want to
like have a side sunscreen business here in Denver for
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those out of towners, you don't realize how close we
are to the sun, let me know because I'll invest. Man,
I didn't realize how smoked I was going to get
yesterday not reapplying sunscreen.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Dude, it gets hot out there at Trading Camp. We're
very happy to be back inside the backus in Shanker
Studios today. Mark mclun of CBS five in Phoenix is
our guest on the Ramos Law Hotline. Talk to me
about the expectations in the NFC West, right. You obviously
have a team in the Rams that are Super Bowl hopeful,
trying to squeeze the last juice out of the lemon,
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that is Matthew Stafford. But the rest of the division
kind of feels wide open. Can you can Seattle get
the same version of Sam Darnold that Minnesota got last year.
What the heck are the forty nine ers without talanoa Hufanga,
dra Greenlaw and now a forty plus million dollar version
of Brock Party. Does Arizona feel as though like this
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is finally the year that you can take advantage of
an NFC West.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, I think absolutely. It's gonna start with the strong
start because the schedule's not that hard. Out of the blocks.
They start with New Orleans, then they're home to the
Panthers and Jacksonville. They do have this the Seahawks on
a Thursday night game in late September. I think that's
gonna be the kind of you know, litmus test right there,
because it becomes a gauntlet after Thanksgiving. They're gonna have
to get get out of the blocks quick. But yeah,
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San Francisco, I mean they always seem to put it
together there. We watched them pretty closely in Arizona because
Brock Party with the high school in the Phoenix area
and his story is just incredible, didn't have any any
d one offers going into a senior year, and then
all of a sudden Bama offers them, and then he
goes to Iowa State and sets the world on fire.
You know, still monitoring Matt Stafford and you will see
if the back holds up. And yeah, Sam Darnald in Seattle,
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you would think they would just be able to kind
of pick up pick up what he was doing and
what they were doing last year. But I think there's
some confidence in Arizona. I think it feels like Arizona's
on the rise. How quickly they can get there. It's
all going to depend on Kyler Murray if he can
take the next step. And there's there's just there's it's
such a divided camp on Kyler in the valley because
it's now year seven and there's been one playoff game.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
You're selling geez, it is wild to think that Kyler
Murray has been playing call of duty and also employed
by the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Now he's that battlefield guy this weekend.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Yeah, without question. When do you look at the NFC
West landscape? Is this one of the most unique divisions
in football because of the the the boomer bust nature
of just about every team and how they've been up
and down between the Niners going to the Super Bowl
and then essentially being a shell of who they were
the year the next year and the Seahawks, what do
(27:56):
they have? The Cardinals seem like they've been a little
bit more of a steady CLI as of late. And
and then of course you know, the Rams look like
maybe the team to be. What do you make of
the NFC West, What are you guys seeing as it
relates to the cardinals chances in that division?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Well, and and full disclaimer, I don't watch a lot
of the NFC South, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I got to put all my time and out, and
I mean the.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
AFC West is so much fun to watch as well,
and we show a lot of those games on CBS
five and Phoenix. Yeah, I think the Cardinals are built
for the long term money Austin for their general manager.
I mean, he was a Patriots personnel guy with Belichick
and Brady and then he went to Tennessee and helped
build that so he knows what he's doing. And this
is a big year for Kyler. I mean I actually
sat down with Kyler and it's going to air on
(28:39):
our pregame coverage and then it's I'm gonna blast that
out on social media just about you know, his expectations
for the year, because I asked him, I was like,
how do you kind of balance, you know, like like
having to take the next step and putting those expectations
out there and kind of the narratives that are out there.
And he even said it, He's like, I I mean,
people want to say this is make or break, boom
or bust for us, but I got to take it.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Day by day.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I think he really believes that. I think he's in
a good spot. It's just can it translate to wins?
I think that's the biggest thing, you know, And maybe
there's just some elements to being out west. You know,
the NFC West, everything's boom or bust and it's been
that way since eighteen forty nine.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
What's the biggest thing that holds Kyler Murray back from
breaking through?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Well, I mean the knee injury three years ago set
him back, he says, the knees back to feeling like.
I mean, he miss missed time with a torn acl
and came back two years ago for the last four games.
And I don't think he's run as much as he
did before. I mean, I love seeing him run. It's
such a weapon. I would love to see them bootleg
him and turn the corner and the defense has to
(29:41):
pick their poison runner pass. I don't think they're going
to give away all of their secrets right now in
the preseason, but I do think it's not putting enough
pressure on the defense. And when Kyler sits back in
the pocket and has to throw, I mean the height
he's shorter than the rest of his offensive lineman, and
when he gets out in space, he's one of the
most dynamic players in the NFL. Now he also throws
(30:02):
one of the best balls in the NFL. So I
think it's just putting it together, you know. For the
for the Cardinals, they lost five to six down the
stretch last year and they have to run the ball
with James Connor and Marvin Harrison. Junior has to turn
into a guy who was who was drafted with the
number four overall pick. Last year. He had a good
season for rookie, comparable with Larry Fitzgerald, but it wasn't nearly,
(30:24):
you know, like a Jamar Chase type season.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
ESPN came out with an article three days ago that
talked about the future rankings of NFL franchises, and part
of that was a big time prediction in twenty twenty seven,
and the big prediction that ESPN had here in Denver
was well, Bo Knicks won't be the quarterback of the
Denver Broncos. What is more likely in twenty twenty seven
(30:47):
Bow Knicks is not the quarterback of the Broncos or
Kyler Murray is not the quarterback the Arizona CA.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Wow, And I think it. I don't know the search
to that. I mean, I think I could see it
going either way for both guys. I think in sitting
down and talking to Kyler, he's in a really good
spot now. If it if it doesn't go well, if
it's I mean, if they win ten games and don't
go to the playoffs, I think you bring him back.
(31:15):
If they win eight games, I think that's the scenario
where they look in the draft and they look to rebuild.
So you know, I mean, I would be very surprised.
To me, I would think Bo Nicks would would be
like a guy that you would, you know, uh, build
build around for the long term. But I don't know,
is Tbo coming back? Is that the story?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I think you just had a kid.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I think he's out in Arizona. We see him from
time to time, so I'll check in and see if
he's I mean it seems like he could still run
over people.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Hey, Sean Payne's still looking for his joker. He couldn't
stop gushing about Trey mcbribes. Is why I was saying, like,
does he really love it? Evan Ingram here, Tim Tebow
could have been the joker.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Play tight endive is just give him a cowboy caller
and let him go run through people's faces.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Don't you miss it? Don't? I mean? I just miss TBO.
I wanted I wanted, like the the UFL to sign TBO,
Vince Young, Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I was waiting for the Texas to come out of you.
You had to get me off.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir, absolutely, man forever.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
As we get out of here. And I know we've
got an interview to get into very quickly arch banning
the real deal or not the real Deal.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I was just talking to sam Acho about this. Who's
the Cardinals, who's a preseason analyst? Yeah, he's great people,
I mean just in a great heart for just everybody,
and I mean he's just just just a good man
and h And we sat down and we actually did
an interview for the pregame show, and my first question
was like, hey, man, how do you think Arch is
going to do this year? We both started laughing. We
didn't use the answer, but I think everybody's interested. And
(32:47):
you know, he says, you stand next to him and
he looks like he's drawn Arch, you know, six foot four,
two hundred and twenty pounds or whatever he is. But
you know, we just have to see him throw the
ball well in a big game. I think that's the
last step. And then you're like, all right, let's go,
let's make our plan for late January. So super excited,
but yeah, you know, it's college football. It's kids that
are turning into men, and you never know what's going
(33:08):
to happen. But I've never been more bullish on the Longhorns,
even though we are the underdog in the Horseshoe on
August at thirty.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
The underdog is the number one team in the country.
How's that work that, Mark McClune of CBS five in Phoenix.
We appreciate your time, brother, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Yeah, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Broncos and Cardinals seven thirty on Saturday evening, week two
of the preseason. We'll take a quick time out. Don't
go anywhere. This is Altitude Sports Radio ninety two to five.
Talk to me about the expectations in the NFC West. Right,
You obviously have a team in the Rams that are
super Bowl hopeful, trying to squeeze the last juice out
of the lemon that is Matthew Stafford. But the rest
(33:48):
of the division kind of feels wide open. Can you
can Seattle get the same version of Sam Darnold that
Minnesota got last year? What the heck are the forty
nine ers without Taloono Hufanga, Dra Greenlow and now a
forty plus million dollar version of Brock Party. Does Arizona
feel as though like this is finally the year that
you can take advantage of an NFC West What.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Do you look at the NFC West landscape? Is this
one of the most unique divisions in football because of
the boomer bust nature of just about every team and
how they've been up and down between the Niners going
to the Super Bowl and then essentially being a shell
of who they were the year the next year, and
the Seahawks, what do they have? The Cardinals seem like
(34:32):
they've been a little bit more of a steady climb
as of late, and then of course you know the
Rams look like maybe the team to be. What do
you make of the NFC West? What are you guys
seeing as it relates to the Cardinals chances in that division?
You lombardied me, Is that my first career Lombardi?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
You lombardied me? Is it my first career Lombardi? I
think it is.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I don't know if you ever lombardied Dempsey, but that's
the first time.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I don't think I ever Lombardi Dempsey.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I do think what we can take out of those
two clips, we're very verbose, very those are those are
you know what? So we need to you lombardied me.
But we moasured Mark mccluten.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
We told him how much we know, yes, before we
asked him what he knows yes. So that's the mosure
and the Lombardi is officially defined as I'm going to
follow up the question that was just asked and answered
by the exact same question.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Save exact question.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
So that's really interesting about how how do you cane something?
Can you cane something?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Keep it to twelve words or fewer?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Is he he's pretty pretty st Yeah, Nelly? Can we
nellie it?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Nellie's verbose Nelly likes to talk. We love Nelly.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Nelly just took his head sets off and is now
responding and reacting. You want to know how you can
break Cannag's do this three oh three, five oh four,
h nine to five.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Hey man, catch you wherever you get your podcast?
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Yeah, very good, very very well.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I loved that. Very interesting about the NFC West. So
tell us about the NFC West.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
So we got had a good time. Yeah, we real
our listeners are so prepared for the twenty five season
in the National Football League's NFC West. They're ready to go.
We really covered that.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I think it's disingenuous to only talk about the AFC
West as a football fan. As a Bronco fan, you
care about more than the AFC West. The vast majority
of football fans out there are not only obsessed with
their team's division. I care. I don't care as much
about the AFC South, but I am interested in what
(36:51):
happens with Houston and Jacksonville this.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Year in our market with our fans, what would you
say is the number one followed division outside of the
AFC West.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I would assume it's the NFC East.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Really by our market here in Denver, Dallas, is there Dallas. Yeah,
they have tons of Texans here in the There's a
lot of Californians, right, So it's almost weird because the
Rams really have an indigenous fan base that like, if
(37:26):
you're a transplant from La here in Denver, are you
really a Rams fan? You're a Lakers fan and a
Dodgers fan. We know that, and then you're just trying
to figure out what the heck you are? NFL was
are They're real, real, real, real Rams fans, like generational
Rams fans that live in southern California. I'm from there.
(37:47):
They were the they were the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
When you leave a state, when you leave a state,
it's really hard to retain those fans.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Especially when you start talking about transplants. Yeah, because said
they're not they're they're they're at least several years to
decades removed from from that fan base or from that
team and having them as their local team.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
According to Westward, Okay, this was done. This was done
in twenty nineteen, so this has changed a little bit.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So my faux pas about asking the same question about
the NFC West as you did led to an interesting
little conversation.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I never said it was a bad thing. I just
wanted to make fun of you.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
You should because that's a very bad.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I'm just taking advantage of Sanford on three hours of sleep.
I don't get to do this often, but when I
have the opportunity, I'm going to swing at the pitch.
Texas two hundred thousand transplants in Denver. Again, this is
twenty nineteen, so this could be plus or minus.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
So we got to say Cowboys because the Houston Texans aren't.
Have they really captured the fan base. The people that
have moved here from Houston in the last twenty five years,
are they die hard Texan fans?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I probably not the same thing, right, New York one
hundred and thirty five thousand, Illinois one hundred and fifty
five thousands.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
There are a lot of Bears. There's a ton of Midwesterner. Sure,
it's the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I think Kansas in California with three hundred and sixty
five thousand transplants to Denver. Again, this is twenty nineteen
according to Westward.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
All right, so I'm gonna throw it out there. The
number one biggest fan base represented outside of the Broncos
here in the state of Colorado. Forty nine ers and
I've seen it. There's forty nine ers bars in this
in this town, multiple plural, it's forty nine ers bars two.
I just Dallas, Dallas, Calvin, I just gave you Dallas
and New York though, right, do you think that's the
(39:34):
same that is the same division. I guess when you
go when you go to a Rangers I know you
go to a Rangers Avs game in ball at Ball Arena.
It is very heavy Ranger fan base. Although you would
say that the fact that there's NFC East and AFC
East divided between Jets and Giants, are you gonna get
one team or one division that's really closely watched by
(39:57):
a big percentage, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say it's
NFC north Man. There's a ton of Minte Sutton's. There's
a ton of uh and they hang too.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
They hang on to their fandom. That's the Chicago fan
hangs on to the fandom, not like not like Ernie,
your du Ernie, you're my dude. Here it is on
the text line, he goes, guys. I moved here from
San Diego in ninety one, and I was a Chargers
fan when I was there, actually worked for the team
for two years and got to travel with them. But
once I got to Colorado, you can't help but be
(40:27):
a Broncos fan because it's just so Broncos crazy here
and I love it. That's the transplant that I love.
The guy that goes to a state and forgets his fandom.
I love that part of that part of you, Ernie.
That's that is the best thing you can possibly be.
You move to a new place, you're now a fan
of those teams. You can have your fandom live in
(40:50):
a locked shoe box in your closet from the team
that you or the city that you came from. But
you don't go to Ballreina where to Blackhawks Jersey. You
don't go to Mile High wearing a Bears jersey or
Raiders jersey. You know what, there is one fan that
I hate way more than the person who moved here
(41:11):
thirty years ago and hasn't found a way to be
a diehard of the teams that are actually here. It's
the person that was born here, grew up here, and
wants to be a fan of the opposite team, the
rival team, just to be that person that's.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
A bad, bad fan, bad fan, bad human, unless it's
passed down by maybe family, because that's me. That was
me in southern California. I hadn't ever lived in area.
Are you Giants fan?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Are you a heavier? Are you a what football team?
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Did you grow up loving wherever my dad was coaching.
I sound so dumb, but yeah, I mean it was.
It was USC football, and then until my dad coached
in the NFL, which he did for the San Diego
Chargers ninety seven to two thousand and one, it was
really whoever my favorite player was at the time. So
I was really into the nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears
(42:02):
four or five, six years after the fact, because I
had an unbelievable NFL Films documentary, You are a VHS tape.
I am a real vagabond, real vagabond. The only team
that is deep to me? It cuts deep, and I
hate the fact that they were a team that looked
like they were a showing for the playoffs and now
they're three or four games under five hundred and that's
(42:23):
the Raphael Devers San Francisco Giants that have been tanking.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Well, it's like my mets. I love my Mets. But
I won't be caught dead wearing a Mets hat to
a Mets Rockies game here in Denver. Won't do it.
Won't do it.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
You wouldn't wear you wouldn't have a Mets fat.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
I love the Mets. I love the Mets. I cried
when they lost the two thousand Subway Series. I had
World Series tickets in twenty fifteen, went there and got
kicked out of city Field. I love the Mets.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
Got kicked out of city Field for what I had.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
I had one beers. Okay, yeah, I had.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
I had one beers. I heard stuff that I had
one beers and stood stood.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
On top of a railing that I didn't realize had
a forty foot drop underneath me.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
So it's a miracle that you're you're physically with me today.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
I was swaying a little bit and then New York's
Finals dragged me down, then told me to exit the premises.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
Dragged you down?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah, they just grabbed me.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
Oh, I thought you meant like tackled you over the railing.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
I got him. But no, I love my Mets. But
if they're playing the Rockies, I'll go to a game
I'm not wearing a piazza jersey. I'm not doing it.
I adopted that four or three. He goes, Tell me,
when does Brett have to abandon the lines? You don't
have to abandon the team. But if you're going to
a game here in Denver and you've been here for
a long time, it disgusts me if you wear the
(43:44):
jersey of the other team, just does, just does, just
how I feel?
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Man?
Speaker 5 (43:49):
What about me having lived here for three and a
half years, die hard San Francisco Giant fan? Am I
not allowed to wear a Giant Series under my rules?
Speaker 2 (43:59):
No?
Speaker 5 (44:01):
I'm sorry. I violated the commandment's according.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
To her, I think you've been here long enough that
you violated a commandment. If you've been here for one, two,
three years, maybe I can be Okay.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
Does it count with the Colorado Rockies.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
That's a great question, Come on, a fantastic question.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
I mean, you gotta think about it, about it? What
is keeping the Colorado Rockies business model afloat.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Beers, beers and opposing fans?
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Amen?
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Damn, don't pull holes in my argument.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Although although as a Colorado sports fan, a lover of
Colorado sports scene, is it not better if you don't
wear your jersey of the opposing team to a Rockies game,
and you essentially just don't go at all, because then
the business model is not working for the Rockies. Alix
says a sale of the team could potentially happen.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Alex says not sure if you can call it love
if you're ashamed to be seen with them in public.
I'm not ashamed to be a Mets fan in public.
I just love the state of Colorado, I know, and
I love the Colorado. You're raised Colorado sport fan.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
You are big time born and raised.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Here more than the Mets, and I'm okay with you.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
Are actually born here, right?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
No?
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Oh, that's right?
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Are you born in born in Philly?
Speaker 5 (45:21):
Philly.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I don't remember living anywhere else. Moved here when I
was like three years old, like this is home, but
I don't, so you are.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
For intensive purposes, every single formative memory is in the
state of Colorado.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I don't have any memories from anywhere else. I love
Colorado sport fan more than I love my family bred
New York Mets fandom.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Three H three five oh four H nine two five
is where you guys can reach us kj's NFL notes
come up at eleven fifteen, will pop some tops at
eleven forty five. Get you guys ready for a beautiful
weekend Here in the Mile High City. Seven thirty kickoff
Week two of the preseason Broncos and Cardinals. On Saturday,
You've got.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
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