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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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As we roll in the hour two of a two
K Tuesday, Alex Ryan m you guys know me better
as RAJ alongside the coach live from Valor High School.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
He is Mike Sanford.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
kJ Granderson is behind the glass today. Been talking a
whole bunch about the Broncos and quarterbacks that they're gonna
have to face this season. Namely it's been Daniel Jones
and the Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Richardson.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Thing that happened this morning with the Colts is they
have gone with the former Giants quarterback and Danny Dimes.
You can expect to see him in week two of
the season talking about how Cincinnati, even though they got
everything they needed to see out of their first team
offense and Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, they decided to,
you know, throw the really expensive important dude's back out
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there on a Monday night, even though the offensive line
had no desire to block for their sixty million dollars
quarterback to guys who you'll see in the first four
weeks of the season. Another quarterback you'll see coming up
was at week nine this year, if I'm correct, against
the Washington is a Week nine against the Washington Commanders.
Week thirteen against the Commanders. After the bye week, Jaden Daniels,
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while he didn't play much last night, looked good and coach.
It got me thinking, remember how Jadeen Daniels ran away
with the Rookie of the Year at the end of
the season.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I remember it, yep.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And he separated himself like crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Remember because the primetime moments in him delivering in primetime
moments that Caleb that Caleb Williams Hail Mary victory on
national television.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I believe was it that Thursday night game?
Speaker 5 (01:52):
It might have been a Sunday night football I he
was a Sunday night football game those moments, Jaden Daniels
had his coming out party. Whereas the unfortunate nature for
bow Knicks as related to winning the Offensive Rookie of
the Year award was that some of his breakout moments
were just somewhat obscure games against teams, you know, like
the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, you needed to win those football games.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You did.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
It just didn't have this And I would argue that
Jaden Daniels needed to win those football games, but he
certainly did. He also won some bigger games in bigger
moments with a national audience. And let's think about bo
Nicks's big moments. I guess it was the Cleveland Browns.
That was a night game.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yes, it was a that was a primetime game. I've
gone through their last seven meaningful starts and Daniels like
barely played in the final game of the season against Dallas.
So I'm throwing that out the window. I'm not putting
those stats in there. It didn't matter, It didn't do
anything for him. It actually would have hurt him in
this scenario. The final seven games that really mattered for
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him started in Week ten against Pittsburgh at home. He
went four and three over the course of those seven games,
through sixteen touchdowns, seven interceptions, and averaged two hundred and
twenty six yards through the air. In those seven games
in which the Commanders went four and three. The three
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teams that they lost to home against Pittsburgh at Philly,
home against Dallas, the four games that they won. Talk
we want to talk about marquee wins. Let's talk about
the seven games that you had to have down the stretch. Right,
you beat Tennessee, You went two New Orleans and beat
them by one. And then the one game that you
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get I'll give you this. You beat Philly at home
by three. You had a big time win against the
eventual Super Bowl champions, and then Atlanta took you to
overtime with a rookie quarterback, in which you won thirty
to twenty four. Sure, you won games, but there is
one really impressive win in there. When you went four
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and three, sixteen touchdowns, seven picks, two hundred and twenty
six yards through the air. He would rush for two
touchdowns and an average of fifty seven yards per game. Right,
he had won wild game where he ran for one
hundred and twenty seven. That was the overtime game against Atlanta. Now,
let me bring you through bow nicks in those seven games.
And yes, I am including the Kansas City game because
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you had to win it. I don't care who you
played against. You had to win it to get in.
Am I gonna call it an impressive win? No, But
I have to include it because he played the game
and you had to win to get into the playoffs.
Bow over those seven games went five and two. He
threw nineteen touchdowns through the air compared to six interceptions.
He averaged two hundred and sixty yards through the air.
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He did not rush for a touchdown in those seven games,
but he did add twenty yards per game on the ground.
The delta between throwing the football from Bow to Daniels
in those seven games thirty four yards more per game
from Bow on the ground just thirty seven yards more
per game from Daniels as compared to Nicks. Now, if
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you add in the two rushing touchdowns Daniels has now
accounted for eighteen compared to Nix's nineteen, they should have
been neck and neck the entire way down the season.
Those five wins. You go back to Atlanta, they beat
the living crap out of the Falcons thirty eight to six.
In that game, they didn't have to go to overtime.
They beat the Raiders on the road. Not a great win.
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I'm not gonna call it, Marquee.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
You put it in that.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You put it forty one win or forty one points
against Cleveland thirty one points against Indy. None of those
wins are like really impressive, but there's only really one
win for Daniels over that course of seven games that
makes you go, huh, he, I guess he did something
really special. The numbers tell you it should have been
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neck and neck the whole way.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Two things.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
National awards are oftentimes given because of moments, not always
because of just strictly stats and analytics. Because if you
went strictly off stats and analytics, and we would both
agree that Lamar Jackson had the MVP season at the
quarterback position over Josh Allen. Josh Allen had several moments
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that were significant, and he also had a little bit
of that, hey, he hasn't really he hasn't won it
yet and we're gonna keep giving. There was fatigue like
the nikolea Jokic fatigue of just handing the MVP.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I'll give you a year.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
But as with the offense Rookie of the Year, I felt
like after that Bears Commander's marquee showdown in primetime between
pick number one Caleb Williams pick number two Jaden Daniels,
watching what he did, it almost felt like he had
to he had to.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
He had to throw away.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
His chances to win Offensive Rookie of the Year after that
second thing. Just the eye test of the way Jaden
Daniels got his yarded, the eye test of the way
that Jaden Daniels got his rushing Touchdow talk about a.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Nicole Jokic argument you're about to have.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Right, This is a.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
When you watch bo Nixon a lot of his production.
Can we all agree that some of his production had
stuff had something to do with Sean Payton and calling
screenplays that were dial ups that led to big touchdown passes,
simple bootlegs that there was somebody wide open, just like
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the Evan ingram from Jared Stidham for fifty eight yards.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
That was magnificent play design.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I don't care how you get the yards, just get them.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Vot the Offensive Rookie of the Year, and MVP voters
do care. They do because they watch these games, particularly
in prime time, when the national attention, the writers, the
media members are all at the same time watching critical moments.
What does the eye test look like in it? Jade
and Daniel, he clearly won the eye test, right, wrong
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or indifferent. Last year he was flashier. He was a
flashier player than Bonix. Does that mean he's a more
productive player than bon X? He was marginally?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Was he not? Rush? So if the stats are just slightly.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
In favor of Jaden Daniels and then the flash is
big time in favor of Jayden Daniels, you've got your
offensive Reokie of the Year award. Bonix has to be
the quarterback that wins thirteen fourteen games and does have
the consistent production, and then the awards will start following.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I see the text message coming in from the four
eight five. The narrative really changed when Daniels hit those
hail mary's.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yes, it did.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But if you're looking at how those yards and how
those scores happened, I look at a hail Mary and
I go, yes, is that a is, for lack of
a better term, a Heisman moment?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
It is?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
It feels that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
But when I look at a hail Mary, I go
that you didn't do anything there. If you throw that
ball ten times, it gets batted down nine out of ten.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Times completely, So I go, you reached into.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
A bag and instead of grabbing a handful of crap,
you came out with roses in your hands. So sure,
the narrative changed there, but I don't think it should have.
Those seven games that you had to win, Bo had
a better record. He accounted for more touchdowns both through
the air and on the ground combined, and the yardage
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difference between the two was what I say. Daniels averaged
three more yards per game. And we look at Jaden
Daniels as a dynamic two way threat.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Bow was a oh Man. He can move his feet,
can't he?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
He used to be the number one dual threat quarterback
recruit when he was coming out of high school.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But we forget about that.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
We look at Jaden Daniels and we go Heisman Trophy winner,
dual threat out of LSU. He can still do it
in the pros. So therefore he must be more valuable
because he can do more things. The numbers don't say that.
So why am I so in? Why was I so
enamored by Jaden Daniels last night?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I shouldn't have been.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I have learned as I got up this morning that
he's just as good the numbers say he's just as good.
He just doesn't look like your Rookie of the Year,
much like Nikola jokicch didn't look like your MVP not you,
Mike the collective WII or you rather, Roger.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
You're having two different arguments here. Offensive Rookie of the
Year is a regular season award, and I agree with that.
What did Jaden Daniels do in the postseason? He did
what no rookie has ever done before, and he broke
the all time rookie passing yardage record and shattered it,
shattered it in three games.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I haven't talked about the postseason.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm looking at last year's regular season.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
No. But you know, but you were talking about.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Why am I watching him last night enamored with him
when you have the same thing that you in Bowneck.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Okay, sure, sure, yeah, I see where're going.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Okay, breaking postseason matters a lot in the National Football League.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
And you know what Jaydon Daniels has now done that
bo Nicks has not done.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
He's won not one, but two postseason games, got to
an NFC championship game in his rookie year.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
That's why you're looking at him differently.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
In his three postseason games last last year, he was
right around one hundred passer rating mark, eight hundred and
twenty two yards passing five touchdowns, to just one interception.
That's why you have that feeling when you watch Jayden
Daniels because of what he was able to accomplish in
the postseason. I understand that has nothing to do with
the Offensive Rookie of the Year award, but it's most
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certainly has something to do with why he's already considered
potentially a top five quarterback in the National Football League
by some lists.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And both they're still down in the mid to late
teams in a lot of those lists.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Right, And can bo win in the postseason? I totally
believe he can. You bet he can.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Did he play?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Did he play horribly against Buffalo? I don't think so.
I think he started out strong, he threw a great
ball down the field to start the scoring, and then
it just kind of just got a little stagnant after that.
And you got beat by a better team, a team
that was built to run the ball down your throat,
and they did, and Josh Allen was played timely, experienced, veteran,
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savvy quarterback play and you lost big.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
If Jaden Daniels and the Commanders play in Buffalo, heck,
I don't even care if they play in Buffalo. If
they host Buffalo in the first round of the playoffs.
Does Jaden have an opportunity to go beat a very
injured Detroit team on the road and it would have
actually been on the road because they had to go
to Tampa to Detroit. So let's say they have to
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go to Orchard Park round one. I don't want to
be the guy that gives excuses for everyone, but the AFS.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We all know this.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
The road through the AFC is exponentially tougher than it
is through the NFC, just because of the quarterbacks that
you have to play against. I love Baker Mayfield, but
Baker Mayfield is not the league MVP and Josh Allen
that Bo had to face.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah, I agree, I mean, but you got obliterated. You
didn't even have a chance. He didn't score points. You
scored seven.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
In the game, that Bo.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
That I mean you could. You could look at the
Commanders Eagles game in Philly, the eventual, the eventual dominant
Super Bowl champ and until the fourth quarter, the Jayden
Daniels and the Washington Commanders had scored twenty three points
against arguably the best defense in Pro football last year.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Fourth quarter, that's where the game got away from you.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
And that's where Sakuon Barkley took took that game and
ran with it and scored twenty one unanswered points. So
I would I would say that even against the best
of the best, which clearly the best of the best,
RAJ was Philadelphia last year, not the team that didn't
even make it to the Super Bowl, the team that
got obliterated by the team that got obliterated by the
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by the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And that's that's the Chiefs right now.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
You can't make the argument of comparing the two and
say that they're in the same conversation because the postseason matters,
especially that position really matters.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
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Speaker 2 (14:38):
Kj's NFL notes are coming up next.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Every day here on the Morning Sprint, we go through
the biggest headlines on the gridiron with kj's NFL Notes,
Mister Granderson, start us off.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
ESPN released there twenty twenty five Power rankings after Week
two of the preseason, and they also asked the question
who's under the most pressure. The Broncos went up from
four teen to number eleven, and our very own Jeff
Legwall said Sean Payton's under the most pressure quote. He
has rocks out the job security, a deep pocketed ownership
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group to support him, in a proven personnel department to
build air roster. But Peyton has been the most vocal
throughout training camp about his team's Super Bowl worthiness. He
believes the Broncos are good enough if they do the
work to play for the Lombardi Trophy. It makes for
good conversation now, but he could be at risk if
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the Broncos have any significant stumbles or injuries in twenty
twenty five. Could Sean Payton be in trouble if they
underperform in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Guys, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
No, no, no, no no, no.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Seriously, come on, guys, I love you Leggy, I love you, ESPN.
Sean Payton's not gonna be in any trouble whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Now.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
One thing that we will say is high achievers like
Sean Payton that are not young, that are not in
their uh they're thirty forty something quest to make a
name for themselves if it doesn't go well, and it
then doesn't go well in another year, say twenty six,
twenty seven, and yeah, you could see that Sean Payton
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would would be in a completely different headspace right now.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Man, the arrow is pointing so far up.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Right now for this Broncos franchise that any thoughts whatsoever
of Sean Payton being in in any turmoil job job wise,
regardless of what happens this year is pretty wild.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
When you were on with Krekman and Lindahl yesterday from
three to four pm, you guys talked about something that
you and I brought up on our show on Monday morning,
which was like, would you trade Jared Stidham if you
could get a fourth round draft pick for him this
year because his stock looks to be higher and teams
are always looking for quarterbacks. And Nate had a really
good point, he goes, well, no, because the rebuild is over.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
It is.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You're not in the middle of the rebuild anymore. You
made the pos You have every piece available to you
outside of a I don't know I want, like the
luxury wide Receiver one or the luxury young tight end
of the future. You don't really need either one of
them right now. You're good enough to compete as is,
so it's over. The answer would then be, well, if
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bo gets hurt, you need someone who can steady the ship,
make sure that it doesn't sink and take a four
game stretch. Instead of being one and three, you go
two and two. Maybe get lucky, you go three and one,
and you continue that trajectory if they underperform. It's based
off of narrative from this year, right like I don't
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think the expectation is the Broncos are Like in the
AFC Championship this year, a lot of people are going, well,
they could be a dark horse. They could surprise you.
What a surprise mean. It means win a playoff game.
It means in a year in which the Chiefs should
probably take a step back, that you might be able
to sneak up and grab the division for the first
time since twenty fifteen. Right, that's what's surprised me means
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it doesn't mean win the Lombardi. If they missed the playoffs, yeah,
I would be super disappointing. But Shan's here next year.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
If they missed the playoffs, shut, I mean shots your
head coach for the next three years minimum.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Until he doesn't want to be the head coach.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
That's that's the name, that's that is what it is.
I mean he is, he is your head ball coach.
And he and right now he's he is pushing all
of the right buttons for this franchise.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
And there there.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Really is is no there's no way you can even
spin and create a spin that that that he's in trouble. Now,
what I will say, as as a guy that's been
a coach for a long time, man, you're always in
the hot seat with the same breath, in the same breath,
like you're always like a game, two games, a segment
of the season away from being on the hot seat.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
So that's just the nature.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
But you could say that for every single head coach
in the history of the game.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
kJ what's next?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Your own little internet shows are driving me crazy. That's why.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
That's exactly why coach. On Saturday, Broncos president Demani leachs
he's thopp by nine News set in the pregame show,
and he talked about Lone Tree not being ruled out
as a potential option for the Broncos moving there as
far as their stadium sites, and an exclusive statement that
was released by nine News from Lone Tree Mayor Marissa
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Harmon on Monday. She said, quote, the team's vision and
activated year round destination, integrated with transit, walkable streets and
first class mobility aligns with the long standing plan for
the Long Tree City Center near twenty five and seventy
envision with employment centers, shopping areas, restaurants, hotels, and array
of housing parking plazas. The Lone Tree City Center is
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proposed to be Metro Denver's next large scale, vibrant downtown end.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Quote.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
If you guys had to give an early prediction on
a scale of one to ten, how likely is it
that the Broncos leave the city of Denver.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Two six seven, Alas gunning vis a beat, it's better
for the Broncos to be in Denver.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I expect them to stay in the city proper. Also
for us to talk about like the metro area and
add Loan Tree into it, we are dangerously getting close
to Like how people talk about the Greater Dallas area
and how if you're within fifty minutes of Dallas Fort Worth,
you're in Dallas. No you're not, Like I get I'm
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out there. I would love to have the Broncos Stadium
down kind of south near me. It would be cool
for me, It wouldn't be cool for the vast majority
of Broncos fans. Keep them in Denver. I think that's
where they're gonna stay. But also, Loan Tree is not
the metro area people.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Its herbs and anybody wants like you point to to Dallas, man,
Dallas doesn't really even have a vibrant downtown whatsoever. I've
spent plenty of time in this in the Greater Dallas metro.
Basically all of the Dallas metro is Dallas. Where is
Denver is a real downtown at real city. You could
say that it's got some problems. I personally love Denver
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even with all of its problems, because that's what big
cities are. Big cities have issues, they always have. I
love the Denver Broncos in Denver. I love the ability
to take a walk across the river and go to
a site the Burnham Yard site. I think it would
be a tremendous site where and you would have the
opportunity to build up some commercial some food and beverage,
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some opportunities to really improve the overall economic I guess
trajectory of the city of Denver, and I think it'd
be a great thing for everybody involved. Keep it going
kJ your own little internet shows, you're driving me crazy.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Well, let's head to the top story outside of Denver.
Colts head coach Shane Steichen has selected Daniel Jones as
the Indianapolis Colts Week one starter over there twenty twenty
three fourth overall pick Anthony Richardson Singer. There did not
seem to be much of a separation depending on the
reports coming out of Indianapolis, but there in recent days
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Shane stike In stress that some minute factors would loom
large in the decision, and ultimately that's what led to
him making that decision. Today, if you're the Colts, what's
next for AR five?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I have seen some musings around social media over the
past couple of days with an AFC West rival and
how their head coach has always been enamored with Anthony Richardson.
Could the Raiders trade for Anthony Richardson and sit him
behind Geno Smith? Because Pete Carroll has always loved the
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raw talent of Anthony Richardson, And if that has any juice,
if that has any sort of leg behind it, I
welcome it with open arms. Get that dude into the
division tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
But here's what I've been hearing about Pete King. I've
heard from multiple sources across the league. He's got three years.
He wants to win. In three years. It's much more
likely that Micah Parson would be a Las Vegas Raider,
and combining.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Jerry Jones is getting to you there. You're removing the
s every time.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm a Michael Parson guy now
just full fledged.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It's become part of my momback. Yeah that's right, Jerry.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Why don't you pronounce your most valuable commodities correctly? But
I could see the more likely scenario is that you
end up having the world beating edge rushing tandem of
Max Crosby and Micah Parson, so that Pete Carroll could
do something very unique and very different than the rest
of the league, and that is to have two of
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the top four, two of the top three pass rushers
in football on the same roster. Then you could see
Pete Carroll getting to a point of relevance in his
first two years as the head coach of Raiders when
he's what is he, Dan, You're eighty years old.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I think the moral of the story here is that
the Colts and Anthony Richardson are not living past his
rookie contract and that fifth year option will not be exercised.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Is it dumb to say that Anthony Richardson, you should
just cut bait and start the conversation about playing tight end.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I would tray lance him right now. I would tray
lance him tomorrow. Like, you know, he's not your quarterback.
If Daniel Jones beats him out, you know he's gone.
And what you have to do is the Kyle Shanahan
thing and go, sure, if mister irrelevant's gonna beat him out,
we are gonna cut ties with him. Let him go
to Dallas or wherever the heck. Where is Trey Lance?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Now? Trey Lance?
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Actually he looks awesome under Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh's charger Lance.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Is a charger. We'll see.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, dude, that.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
My thought, Roji and I might have I said cut bait.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I meant that should the Indianapolis Colts cut bait with
the quarterback experiment and say we own the rights to
this extremely talented Greek god of a body type and
make him a tight end. And now you would potentially
have you know your Tyler Warren as your true traditional
why and then developmentally try to get something out of
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a guy of the physical stature of ar five as
maybe an f I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Good lie getting that dude to commit to playing a
non quarterback role when he pulls himself out of games regularly.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I'd also say a good ball player that doesn't like
getting hit.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Good luck to that, to that dude to ever playing
quarterback ever again in this league. Hey, you better learn Canadian, buddy,
you better learn French Canadian because you're going to be
playing in the CFL.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
There, buddy, what's your own? Little Internet shows are driving
me crazy.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
So there's a story that's coming out of Washington that's
kind of This is getting a little weird. Now let's
go back to yesterday. So Jordan Schultz Fox Sports. He
reported that the Commanders have been shopping running back Brian
Robinson Junior to teams around the NFL. They're not looking
necessarily to trade him unless the asking, unless the price
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that they're looking for is qualitative. Right. Dan Quinn comes
out last night and says he and GM Adam Peters
informed Brian Robinson Junior on Saturday afternoon of their plan
to keep him out of the game. Quinn then addressed
the rest of the team that evening about keeping him
out of the game, and Quinn goes on to decline
to provide any specifics about their convo with Robinson or
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his future with the team. So my question to you
guys is, with their not being a clear answer to
what's exactly taking place there, how likely is it that
BRJ is traded before the start of the regular season.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
How much do you trust in the legs of Austin Eckler.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Just such a niche back. Austin Eckler is not your
threat redown back.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
He's not the player that you want turning forty five
to fifty five snaps a game.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
He's he's more slightly built.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
He is.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
What is this year eight for Eckler. He's a little
bit more, he's a bit longer in the tooth.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I don't think that you want to head your bets
on Austin Eckler as your as your go to guy.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Nine years of NFL experience on Eckler year look like Yeah,
it did look like Eckler had lost a step the
last time we saw him. Like he's still gonna be effective,
but he has definitely lost that that burst. Robinson's gonna
play for the Commanders, but I don't know if I'm
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giving him a new deal right now. Man, Like he's
a good running back, he's not great. Eight hundred yards
eight touchdowns last year, seven hundred and thirty yards five
touchdowns the year before eight hundred yards two touchdowns as
a twenty three year old rookie. I kind of think
that's who he is, and he might only have a
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couple more years of that level of play. If I'm Washington,
I know I have to pay Jayden Daniels three years,
four years from now. I'm not spending that money on
a running back, especially with what happened with Terry McLaurin recently.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I'm not doing any.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Of that, all right.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
I got an idea here. Since we're talking about that,
If you're the San Francisco forty nine ers, why aren't
you picking up the phone right now and calling the
commanders about Brian Robinson. That is a team that has
been injured, injured, injured at the running back position last
year and going into this offseason. Christian McCaffrey could use
a real one.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Bag running Yeah, he could.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
What is last year?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
In Christian McCaffrey's absence, there was there was some pretty
productive players at the position.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
That came out of nowhere.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Jordan Mason.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Jordan Mason was one of them, and I think there
was another back that came in as a flash in
the pan.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Jordan Mason still for nine er.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I'm not entirely sure your rushing leaders last year Jordan Mason.
Isaac Garendo.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
No, Jordan Mason is now a Minnesota Viking.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Isaac Garendo was was a draft pick out of Louisville
that ran incredibly fast forty yard dash at the combine
two years ago.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
And Patrick Taylor had a big game as well, but
that was about it.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Isaac is currently slidded as their second running back on
the dip charte right.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Now, which makes sense.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
You know, ironically, Isaac Garrendo, six foot two hundred and
twenty pound player from from Louisville does does run very well.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
But you Yahoo Sports just brought up that very very point.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Could the forty nine ers look to trade for a
running back with a familiar team and and yeah, that's
a that's a Brian Robinson Jr.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
That's a good thought. Now, how would Christian McCaffrey feel
about that? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Brian Robinson Junior. Is he's a bonafie starting running back
in the National football.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I mean, Cemax not going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Would Brian Robinson.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I'm just talking about from a locker room management standpoint,
one of your leaders of your.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Football team, Brian Robinson Junior.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Would he be the best tailback if he were to
come on the if you were to arrive in Denver
and become a Denver Bronco. Would he be the most
proven best running back?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
He and Dobbins are kind of contemporaries, right.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
They are very similar.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
They're kind of the same guy.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Dobbins nine hundred yards nine touchdowns last year in the
next full season that he had, I mean, it was
half a season. Five hundred yards two touchdowns in eight games,
and then as a rookie in twenty twenty he rushed
for eight hundred yards in fifteen games in nine touchdowns.
They're very similar in terms of their production.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
They are.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
And the interesting thing about Brian Robinson Junior is that
in his three years of service, he's never played more
than fifteen games. He's been a twelve game guy, a
fifteen game guy, and a fourteen game guy, and he's
never had more than eight hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Seven ninety nine has been his cap. So yeah, I
mean that is the right That is the right profile
now that I look at it.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
It's the right profile to fit a Christian McCaffrey. And
I thought Brian Robinson Junior was a little bit older.
This is just year four coming up for him. For
brj kJ one more your own little internet shows are
driving me crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Over the weekend, the Texans traded wide receiver John Metchi
the third to the Philadelphia Eagles, and in return, the
Texans are getting tight end Harrison Bryant in a fifth
round pick in exchange, as the Texans are getting a
sixth round pick as well as Michie. But the trade
for Bryant obviously comes because the Texans lost a young
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tight end, Brevin Jordan, and so now they need a
backup for Dalton Schultz. But I want to focus on
the Eagles portion of things here because Mechi, entering his
fourth season, has only forty receptions for four hundred and
twelve yards and a touchdown in twenty nine games. If
you're the Eagles, I know he's not going to be
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a major threat for you at wide receiver, but why
would you add another wide receiver depth piece when you
are a run first team anyway?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Ah Man, I don't Maybe it's because Machi doesn't command
the type of volume to be satisfied in the in
the locker room, right, to be to be, I mean,
I don't know, it's right.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
It's kind of that sess. I mean, he really is
that guy. Hey, Mechi's like.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
He's a wide receiver three, but he's got more physical attributes.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I don't know I could see it happening.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
How many more years of elite play do you have
out of a twelenty eight year old AJ Brown?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
I'd say four four?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Okay, that fours probab for me, it's probably on the
long side because once you hit thirty as one of
those elite, high volume receivers like AJ Brown has been
for his career, I think you start to hit a cliff.
So why not take a chance on a kid who
had sky high pedigree coming out of Alabama. I know
he wasn't a first rounder, but he was an early
second rounder, and you get to have him sit behind
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DeVonta Smith and AJ Brown and learn from those two
dudes and then hopefully kind of turn into something when
he's twenty six or twenty seven and AJ is over
that thirty and DeVonta Smith is coming up on twenty
eight to twenty nine years old at that time.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I think it's a good chance for them.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Is Devonte Smith in your opinions the two of you?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Has he been a success in the National Football League? Yes? No?
What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
No?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
I don't feel like he has been because I love
the prospect. I thought he was gonna he was gonna
completely What are we talking about.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
The worst season this guy has had was thirteen games
in which he caught seventy passes, sorry, sixty eight passes
for eight hundred and thirty three yards and eight touchdowns.
That was last year. His worst season in which they
won a Super Bowl. He's got multiple thousand yard receiving
or receiving seasons under his belt, another one at nine
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hundred and sixteen yards. He's been largely healthy his entire career.
He's been a disappointment. We're screwed in Denver. If DeVonta
Smith's been a disappointment at the wide receiver position, what
are we talking about?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Would you have said that DeVante Smith would have had
better statistics going into his fifth year than a Courtland
Sutton would have when he was going into his fifth year. Sure,
I mean he should be based off the draft profile
of a DeVante Smith picked ten overall in the twenty
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twenty one NFL Draft first round. His ceiling for touchdowns
in a season is eight eight.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
He was pick ten overall.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
He's a Super Bowl winning wide receiver at twenty six
years old, with multiple thousand yard receiving seasons, and is
relatively healthy.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
All the time.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Jerry Judy, his contemporary at Alabama, who we all thought
was the absolute bust of all busts, had more receiving
yards last season than Davonte Smith has had in any
one season of his career. And Jerry did it with
seventeen quarterbacks for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
He had two hundred and twenty nine yards.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
I don't know, man, I just feel like Davante Smith
hasn't been an absolute bust. He just hasn't been as
dominant as I saw. Man.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
That dude was a baller at all Obama.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I mean, he was cold blooded killer when you watched
him play against SEC defenses.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I just haven't seen it.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Sixty eight receptions, eight hundred and thirty three yards, eight
touchdowns and in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna kick that out of bed
here in Denver. Yeah, get out. That doesn't do anything
for me. Kick that out of bed.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I mean, as it relates to like elite wide receivers
wide receivers, I would give that a six seven.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
That's if I'd put that right there.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
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kJ and Mike Sanford. Yeah, they'd say spit on DeVonta
Smith if he was wearing orange and blue.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
You guys are crazy, I got weird.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I'm gonna put this very bluntly at the end of
a two K Tuesday spice girls.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
What a poll? kJ, who's your favorite spice girl?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
By the way, I'm a sporty spice guy.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Sporty spice guy. Huh A ginger spice guy for a while?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah really?
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Oh yeah, okay, sure tells me a little something into
about you.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Some references I don't know. I don't know what it was.
Which one is Beckham's wife?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Which one was she push posh spice. Yeah, that's not
a great English accent, but you get where I'm going.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
She's a push push spy.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
He's a bush guy. And then the scary spice girl.
I think her name was mel. She was on America's
Got Talent for a bunch of years. They all had
relatively like good careers.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
The uh.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Ginger spice I think her name is Jerry. She married
the dude who is the head of like red Bull
Racing for the last fifteen or something years.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Seems like a smart decision.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, posh dated and married and has kids with David Beckham.
I don't know what Sporty Spice did. You're keeping up
on her Wikipedia page. This is off the top of
my head. I know way more about the Spice girls
I should ever know. But I am going to put
this bluntly. I would give my left nut for DeVonta
Smith to be a Bronco. I would trade that right now.
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You guys, you guys, kicking him out of bed is
like kicking a Spice girl out of bed.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Well, what I learned from our brilliant shot mos the
Texters is that we have some Eagles fans that listen
to this problem.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
They have people who have two eyes and watch football.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
No over the last four years, don't Sean Payton me
over the last four years.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
DeVonta Smith since he walked into the league, and again
going against guys who have been here, been there, and
done that in the league, a bunch of veterans who
had more seasons in their belt before he walked in
as a rookie. Since DeVonta Smith walked into the league,
his two hundred and forty four receptions are good for
fourteenth league wide. His yards per game are good for
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fifteenth league wide. His twenty two touchdown receptions are tied
with Terry mclaurin's to Von Diggs for tenth league wide
in the last four years.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And we don't want to touch any of that. And
what are that's a disappointment.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
He's got better numbers than DK Metcalf over the last
four years combined, better numbers than Jerry Judy, Garrett Wilson,
Jaln Waddle, Drake London, Brandon I, you Canico Collins, Amari Cooper,
and we don't think that guy has lived up to
number ten overall billing.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Solid number two wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
He's a number two wide receiver because AJ Brown is
there and Dallas Goddard is there and his quarterback has
fewer than two thousand pass attempts over the last five
years combined.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Solid number two wide receiver. And if you want to,
if you want to draft that at number ten overall,
go ahead, have fun with that.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Hey, Hey, if the standard is get at number two,
and we're not talking about a number two receiver like
we're talking about Jamar Chase and T Higgins is one
and two. That's a one A one B. This is
a very clear one and two he's good. I watch
is Alabama film and I was in love with Davonte Smith.
I was in love with the player. And just frankly,
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I haven't seen as an NFL wide receiver. I haven't
seen the wow that I expected to see. The thing
you gotta understand, Raj is I love the player. I
loved the draft profile. I thought he was one of
the best route running receivers that I had ever seen
at the college level. What I haven't seen is the
dominance as a route runner. You know why, because he's slender,
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because he gets eaten up by man coverage. Because NFL
press man coverage like a court, like a Patzertan the
second within the first five yards. Davonte Smith, when he
sees those types of looks, doesn't have the same kind
of juice as when he sees off and soft coverage.
He's a great free access receiver when he's given the
opportunity to run without any any any bumping at the
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line of scrimmage. Oh and that's my story and I'm
sticking to it. And by the way, Sporty Spice, all
I found out is that she's still alive. She's doing well,
she's still kicking she's she ran the London Triathlon twice.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
She's a big time supporter of Liverpool.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
You never walk alone.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
Other than that, she's just kind of you know, she's
she's a performer. Electronic pop punk kind of deal.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
So there you go. Melanie C is what she knows.
She's known as now Melanie D.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I can't get I just can't get over with the
DeVonta Smith thing. But I okay, he's not your cup
of tea. I get it, I get it, But it's
like kicking a spice girl out of bed.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Like I think he I think he.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Would make a huge difference here in Denver for a
team that's more pass oriented than the Eagles are. Like,
he's a guy who over again, I was going over
the course of the four years combined since he walked
into the league, and there's a lot of number one
wide receivers that he is. He's around there, but like
he does that all on three hundred and thirty something targets,
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which is down in like twentieth, tied for twentieth in
that time, and he's putting up numbers that are relatively
like number ten around the league in terms of like
average per game and reception tds. He's up there with
a bona fide number one in Terry McLaurin. He's up
there with a bona fide number one at least when
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he was in his pardon me, in his prime in
Stefan Diggs and DJ Moore and Justin Jefferson only has
one more touchdown reception than he does over the last
four years. Like, I don't know, man, it's he does
it for me, doesn't do it for you, but he
does it for me.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
He does it for me.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
He just hasn't done it to the level that I
thought he would in the National Football League. That's where
I'm coming from, not the place that he's a bad player.
He's a very good He's a plus wide receiver two
in the NFL. Have you said he might have that
in Pat Bryant here, Oh, I do unpack that.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You've seen enough out of thirteen.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
I've seen enough that he is. He is the same
things that I just I just threw shade at with
regards to Devonte Smith, frankly, the same stuff that Jerry
Judy had a hard time with, the physical at the
line of scrimmage nature of the position in the National
Football League, Sean Payton and how he employs wide receivers.
You need to be big, you need to be strong,
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you need to be physical. It's not so much about
just pure clock in the forty yard dash, because if
that was the case, then Jerry Judy would have hit
as a Denver Bronco.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Who is the kid out of Baylor that ran that
crazy sub four four forty and never turned into anything.
He was a I think he was a first round
draft pick to Tennessee if I'm correct, Like super small
but mega fast dude that were like we all thought
it was going to be the next you.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
All said John Ross. Was it not out of the
University of Washington John Ross?
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yes, he was in that same vein.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
I'm trying to remember the god the kid I remember
recruiting him out of Texas. He ended up playing it.
I think TCU Baylor over the course of his career.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Corey Coleman was the wide receiver that I'm looking for.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
He was.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Corey Coleman was physically huge like he was. He was
slapped together and but could run also just a little
bit stiff, A little bit stiff. Pat Bryan is not stiff.
He doesn't run great as we know, but he runs
functional and he runs powerfully, and I think you have
what is gonna end up being.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Man.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
Now, I love what I've seen out of Devon Vley,
I've loved what I've seen at times out of Marvin
Mims Junior. But to be a dependable wide receiver two
in Sean Payton's offense, man, I think the guy that's
going to be up for that role is gonna be
Pat Bryant this year.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
I do is to do part Bryan.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
As it stands August nineteenth, is Patrick Bryant already your
second best wide receiver on this team in your mind.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I'm gonna say yes.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
I'm gonna say yes based off the fact of what
we've seen at training camp. Caught my eye. He was
already working with the ones in the first week. His
football IQ is football maturity to be able to just
jump out there and play right now, I see it.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I see it.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Pat Brian's gonna be a star, and he's gonna be
another example of Sean Payton, George Peyton, but namely Sean
looking at all of us and saying, I was a
smart guy. Now you guess you than you Yet you
want to know what the forty yard dash was Pat
Bryan and his four point six seven and didn't matter.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
It didn't matter because I didn't can ball.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
It's gonna do it for us today, for coach Mike Samford.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Live out there at Valor Hi kJ Granderson behind the glass.
I'm Alex Ryan hemy thanks so much for joining us
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Speaker 2 (45:43):
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Speaker 3 (45:45):
Next Nate and Andy on your drive home from three
to six today we learned something about each other. Coach
was a sporty spice guy. I was a ginger spice guy.
And apparently DeVonta Smith isn't good enough to play football
in Denver. See you guys tomorrow morning at
Speaker 1 (45:59):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
He is Mike Sanford.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
kJ Granderson is behind the glass today. Been talking a
whole bunch about the Broncos and quarterbacks that they're gonna
have to face this season. Namely it's been Daniel Jones
and the Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Richardson.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Thing that happened this morning with the Colts is they
have gone with the former Giants quarterback and Danny Dimes.
You can expect to see him in week two of
the season talking about how Cincinnati, even though they got
everything they needed to see out of their first team
offense and Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, they decided to,
you know, throw the really expensive important dude's back out
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there on a Monday night, even though the offensive line
had no desire to block for their sixty million dollars
quarterback to guys who you'll see in the first four
weeks of the season. Another quarterback you'll see coming up
was at week nine this year, if I'm correct, against
the Washington is a Week nine against the Washington Commanders.
Week thirteen against the Commanders. After the bye week, Jaden Daniels,
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while he didn't play much last night, looked good and coach.
It got me thinking, remember how Jadeen Daniels ran away
with the Rookie of the Year at the end of
the season.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I remember it, yep.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And he separated himself like crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Remember because the primetime moments in him delivering in primetime
moments that Caleb that Caleb Williams Hail Mary victory on
national television.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I believe was it that Thursday night game?
Speaker 5 (01:52):
It might have been a Sunday night football I he
was a Sunday night football game those moments, Jaden Daniels
had his coming out party. Whereas the unfortunate nature for
bow Knicks as related to winning the Offensive Rookie of
the Year award was that some of his breakout moments
were just somewhat obscure games against teams, you know, like
the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, you needed to win those football games.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You did.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
It just didn't have this And I would argue that
Jaden Daniels needed to win those football games, but he
certainly did. He also won some bigger games in bigger
moments with a national audience. And let's think about bo
Nicks's big moments. I guess it was the Cleveland Browns.
That was a night game.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yes, it was a that was a primetime game. I've
gone through their last seven meaningful starts and Daniels like
barely played in the final game of the season against Dallas.
So I'm throwing that out the window. I'm not putting
those stats in there. It didn't matter, It didn't do
anything for him. It actually would have hurt him in
this scenario. The final seven games that really mattered for
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him started in Week ten against Pittsburgh at home. He
went four and three over the course of those seven games,
through sixteen touchdowns, seven interceptions, and averaged two hundred and
twenty six yards through the air. In those seven games
in which the Commanders went four and three. The three
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teams that they lost to home against Pittsburgh at Philly,
home against Dallas, the four games that they won. Talk
we want to talk about marquee wins. Let's talk about
the seven games that you had to have down the stretch. Right,
you beat Tennessee, You went two New Orleans and beat
them by one. And then the one game that you
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get I'll give you this. You beat Philly at home
by three. You had a big time win against the
eventual Super Bowl champions, and then Atlanta took you to
overtime with a rookie quarterback, in which you won thirty
to twenty four. Sure, you won games, but there is
one really impressive win in there. When you went four
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and three, sixteen touchdowns, seven picks, two hundred and twenty
six yards through the air. He would rush for two
touchdowns and an average of fifty seven yards per game. Right,
he had won wild game where he ran for one
hundred and twenty seven. That was the overtime game against Atlanta. Now,
let me bring you through bow nicks in those seven games.
And yes, I am including the Kansas City game because
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you had to win it. I don't care who you
played against. You had to win it to get in.
Am I gonna call it an impressive win? No, But
I have to include it because he played the game
and you had to win to get into the playoffs.
Bow over those seven games went five and two. He
threw nineteen touchdowns through the air compared to six interceptions.
He averaged two hundred and sixty yards through the air.
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He did not rush for a touchdown in those seven games,
but he did add twenty yards per game on the ground.
The delta between throwing the football from Bow to Daniels
in those seven games thirty four yards more per game
from Bow on the ground just thirty seven yards more
per game from Daniels as compared to Nicks. Now, if
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you add in the two rushing touchdowns Daniels has now
accounted for eighteen compared to Nix's nineteen, they should have
been neck and neck the entire way down the season.
Those five wins. You go back to Atlanta, they beat
the living crap out of the Falcons thirty eight to six.
In that game, they didn't have to go to overtime.
They beat the Raiders on the road. Not a great win.
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I'm not gonna call it, Marquee.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
You put it in that.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You put it forty one win or forty one points
against Cleveland thirty one points against Indy. None of those
wins are like really impressive, but there's only really one
win for Daniels over that course of seven games that
makes you go, huh, he, I guess he did something
really special. The numbers tell you it should have been
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neck and neck the whole way.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Two things.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
National awards are oftentimes given because of moments, not always
because of just strictly stats and analytics. Because if you
went strictly off stats and analytics, and we would both
agree that Lamar Jackson had the MVP season at the
quarterback position over Josh Allen. Josh Allen had several moments
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that were significant, and he also had a little bit
of that, hey, he hasn't really he hasn't won it
yet and we're gonna keep giving. There was fatigue like
the nikolea Jokic fatigue of just handing the MVP.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I'll give you a year.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
But as with the offense Rookie of the Year, I felt
like after that Bears Commander's marquee showdown in primetime between
pick number one Caleb Williams pick number two Jaden Daniels,
watching what he did, it almost felt like he had
to he had to.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
He had to throw away.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
His chances to win Offensive Rookie of the Year after that
second thing. Just the eye test of the way Jaden
Daniels got his yarded, the eye test of the way
that Jaden Daniels got his rushing Touchdow talk about a.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Nicole Jokic argument you're about to have.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Right, This is a.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
When you watch bo Nixon a lot of his production.
Can we all agree that some of his production had
stuff had something to do with Sean Payton and calling
screenplays that were dial ups that led to big touchdown passes,
simple bootlegs that there was somebody wide open, just like
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the Evan ingram from Jared Stidham for fifty eight yards.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
That was magnificent play design.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I don't care how you get the yards, just get them.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Vot the Offensive Rookie of the Year, and MVP voters
do care. They do because they watch these games, particularly
in prime time, when the national attention, the writers, the
media members are all at the same time watching critical moments.
What does the eye test look like in it? Jade
and Daniel, he clearly won the eye test, right, wrong
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or indifferent. Last year he was flashier. He was a
flashier player than Bonix. Does that mean he's a more
productive player than bon X? He was marginally?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Was he not? Rush? So if the stats are just slightly.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
In favor of Jaden Daniels and then the flash is
big time in favor of Jayden Daniels, you've got your
offensive Reokie of the Year award. Bonix has to be
the quarterback that wins thirteen fourteen games and does have
the consistent production, and then the awards will start following.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I see the text message coming in from the four
eight five. The narrative really changed when Daniels hit those
hail mary's.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yes, it did.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But if you're looking at how those yards and how
those scores happened, I look at a hail Mary and
I go, yes, is that a is, for lack of
a better term, a Heisman moment?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
It is?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
It feels that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
But when I look at a hail Mary, I go
that you didn't do anything there. If you throw that
ball ten times, it gets batted down nine out of ten.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Times completely, So I go, you reached into.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
A bag and instead of grabbing a handful of crap,
you came out with roses in your hands. So sure,
the narrative changed there, but I don't think it should have.
Those seven games that you had to win, Bo had
a better record. He accounted for more touchdowns both through
the air and on the ground combined, and the yardage
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difference between the two was what I say. Daniels averaged
three more yards per game. And we look at Jaden
Daniels as a dynamic two way threat.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Bow was a oh Man. He can move his feet,
can't he?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
He used to be the number one dual threat quarterback
recruit when he was coming out of high school.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But we forget about that.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
We look at Jaden Daniels and we go Heisman Trophy winner,
dual threat out of LSU. He can still do it
in the pros. So therefore he must be more valuable
because he can do more things. The numbers don't say that.
So why am I so in? Why was I so
enamored by Jaden Daniels last night?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I shouldn't have been.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I have learned as I got up this morning that
he's just as good the numbers say he's just as good.
He just doesn't look like your Rookie of the Year,
much like Nikola jokicch didn't look like your MVP not you,
Mike the collective WII or you rather, Roger.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
You're having two different arguments here. Offensive Rookie of the
Year is a regular season award, and I agree with that.
What did Jaden Daniels do in the postseason? He did
what no rookie has ever done before, and he broke
the all time rookie passing yardage record and shattered it,
shattered it in three games.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I haven't talked about the postseason.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm looking at last year's regular season.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
No. But you know, but you were talking about.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Why am I watching him last night enamored with him
when you have the same thing that you in Bowneck.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Okay, sure, sure, yeah, I see where're going.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Okay, breaking postseason matters a lot in the National Football League.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
And you know what Jaydon Daniels has now done that
bo Nicks has not done.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
He's won not one, but two postseason games, got to
an NFC championship game in his rookie year.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
That's why you're looking at him differently.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
In his three postseason games last last year, he was
right around one hundred passer rating mark, eight hundred and
twenty two yards passing five touchdowns, to just one interception.
That's why you have that feeling when you watch Jayden
Daniels because of what he was able to accomplish in
the postseason. I understand that has nothing to do with
the Offensive Rookie of the Year award, but it's most
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certainly has something to do with why he's already considered
potentially a top five quarterback in the National Football League
by some lists.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And both they're still down in the mid to late
teams in a lot of those lists.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Right, And can bo win in the postseason? I totally
believe he can. You bet he can.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Did he play?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Did he play horribly against Buffalo? I don't think so.
I think he started out strong, he threw a great
ball down the field to start the scoring, and then
it just kind of just got a little stagnant after that.
And you got beat by a better team, a team
that was built to run the ball down your throat,
and they did, and Josh Allen was played timely, experienced, veteran,
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savvy quarterback play and you lost big.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
If Jaden Daniels and the Commanders play in Buffalo, heck,
I don't even care if they play in Buffalo. If
they host Buffalo in the first round of the playoffs.
Does Jaden have an opportunity to go beat a very
injured Detroit team on the road and it would have
actually been on the road because they had to go
to Tampa to Detroit. So let's say they have to
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go to Orchard Park round one. I don't want to
be the guy that gives excuses for everyone, but the AFS.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We all know this.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
The road through the AFC is exponentially tougher than it
is through the NFC, just because of the quarterbacks that
you have to play against. I love Baker Mayfield, but
Baker Mayfield is not the league MVP and Josh Allen
that Bo had to face.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah, I agree, I mean, but you got obliterated. You
didn't even have a chance. He didn't score points. You
scored seven.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
In the game, that Bo.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
That I mean you could. You could look at the
Commanders Eagles game in Philly, the eventual, the eventual dominant
Super Bowl champ and until the fourth quarter, the Jayden
Daniels and the Washington Commanders had scored twenty three points
against arguably the best defense in Pro football last year.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Fourth quarter, that's where the game got away from you.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
And that's where Sakuon Barkley took took that game and
ran with it and scored twenty one unanswered points. So
I would I would say that even against the best
of the best, which clearly the best of the best,
RAJ was Philadelphia last year, not the team that didn't
even make it to the Super Bowl, the team that
got obliterated by the team that got obliterated by the
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by the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And that's that's the Chiefs right now.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
You can't make the argument of comparing the two and
say that they're in the same conversation because the postseason matters,
especially that position really matters.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
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Speaker 2 (14:38):
Kj's NFL notes are coming up next.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Every day here on the Morning Sprint, we go through
the biggest headlines on the gridiron with kj's NFL Notes,
Mister Granderson, start us off.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
ESPN released there twenty twenty five Power rankings after Week
two of the preseason, and they also asked the question
who's under the most pressure. The Broncos went up from
four teen to number eleven, and our very own Jeff
Legwall said Sean Payton's under the most pressure quote. He
has rocks out the job security, a deep pocketed ownership
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group to support him, in a proven personnel department to
build air roster. But Peyton has been the most vocal
throughout training camp about his team's Super Bowl worthiness. He
believes the Broncos are good enough if they do the
work to play for the Lombardi Trophy. It makes for
good conversation now, but he could be at risk if
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the Broncos have any significant stumbles or injuries in twenty
twenty five. Could Sean Payton be in trouble if they
underperform in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Guys, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
No, no, no, no no, no.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Seriously, come on, guys, I love you Leggy, I love you, ESPN.
Sean Payton's not gonna be in any trouble whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Now.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
One thing that we will say is high achievers like
Sean Payton that are not young, that are not in
their uh they're thirty forty something quest to make a
name for themselves if it doesn't go well, and it
then doesn't go well in another year, say twenty six,
twenty seven, and yeah, you could see that Sean Payton
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would would be in a completely different headspace right now.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Man, the arrow is pointing so far up.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Right now for this Broncos franchise that any thoughts whatsoever
of Sean Payton being in in any turmoil job job wise,
regardless of what happens this year is pretty wild.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
When you were on with Krekman and Lindahl yesterday from
three to four pm, you guys talked about something that
you and I brought up on our show on Monday morning,
which was like, would you trade Jared Stidham if you
could get a fourth round draft pick for him this
year because his stock looks to be higher and teams
are always looking for quarterbacks. And Nate had a really
good point, he goes, well, no, because the rebuild is over.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
It is.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You're not in the middle of the rebuild anymore. You
made the pos You have every piece available to you
outside of a I don't know I want, like the
luxury wide Receiver one or the luxury young tight end
of the future. You don't really need either one of
them right now. You're good enough to compete as is,
so it's over. The answer would then be, well, if
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bo gets hurt, you need someone who can steady the ship,
make sure that it doesn't sink and take a four
game stretch. Instead of being one and three, you go
two and two. Maybe get lucky, you go three and one,
and you continue that trajectory if they underperform. It's based
off of narrative from this year, right like I don't
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think the expectation is the Broncos are Like in the
AFC Championship this year, a lot of people are going, well,
they could be a dark horse. They could surprise you.
What a surprise mean. It means win a playoff game.
It means in a year in which the Chiefs should
probably take a step back, that you might be able
to sneak up and grab the division for the first
time since twenty fifteen. Right, that's what's surprised me means
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it doesn't mean win the Lombardi. If they missed the playoffs, yeah,
I would be super disappointing. But Shan's here next year.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
If they missed the playoffs, shut, I mean shots your
head coach for the next three years minimum.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Until he doesn't want to be the head coach.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
That's that's the name, that's that is what it is.
I mean he is, he is your head ball coach.
And he and right now he's he is pushing all
of the right buttons for this franchise.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
And there there.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Really is is no there's no way you can even
spin and create a spin that that that he's in trouble. Now,
what I will say, as as a guy that's been
a coach for a long time, man, you're always in
the hot seat with the same breath, in the same breath,
like you're always like a game, two games, a segment
of the season away from being on the hot seat.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
So that's just the nature.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
But you could say that for every single head coach
in the history of the game.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
kJ what's next?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Your own little internet shows are driving me crazy. That's why.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
That's exactly why coach. On Saturday, Broncos president Demani leachs
he's thopp by nine News set in the pregame show,
and he talked about Lone Tree not being ruled out
as a potential option for the Broncos moving there as
far as their stadium sites, and an exclusive statement that
was released by nine News from Lone Tree Mayor Marissa
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Harmon on Monday. She said, quote, the team's vision and
activated year round destination, integrated with transit, walkable streets and
first class mobility aligns with the long standing plan for
the Long Tree City Center near twenty five and seventy
envision with employment centers, shopping areas, restaurants, hotels, and array
of housing parking plazas. The Lone Tree City Center is
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proposed to be Metro Denver's next large scale, vibrant downtown end.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Quote.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
If you guys had to give an early prediction on
a scale of one to ten, how likely is it
that the Broncos leave the city of Denver.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Two six seven, Alas gunning vis a beat, it's better
for the Broncos to be in Denver.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I expect them to stay in the city proper. Also
for us to talk about like the metro area and
add Loan Tree into it, we are dangerously getting close
to Like how people talk about the Greater Dallas area
and how if you're within fifty minutes of Dallas Fort Worth,
you're in Dallas. No you're not, Like I get I'm
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out there. I would love to have the Broncos Stadium
down kind of south near me. It would be cool
for me, It wouldn't be cool for the vast majority
of Broncos fans. Keep them in Denver. I think that's
where they're gonna stay. But also, Loan Tree is not
the metro area people.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Its herbs and anybody wants like you point to to Dallas, man,
Dallas doesn't really even have a vibrant downtown whatsoever. I've
spent plenty of time in this in the Greater Dallas metro.
Basically all of the Dallas metro is Dallas. Where is
Denver is a real downtown at real city. You could
say that it's got some problems. I personally love Denver
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even with all of its problems, because that's what big
cities are. Big cities have issues, they always have. I
love the Denver Broncos in Denver. I love the ability
to take a walk across the river and go to
a site the Burnham Yard site. I think it would
be a tremendous site where and you would have the
opportunity to build up some commercial some food and beverage,
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some opportunities to really improve the overall economic I guess
trajectory of the city of Denver, and I think it'd
be a great thing for everybody involved. Keep it going
kJ your own little internet shows, you're driving me crazy.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Well, let's head to the top story outside of Denver.
Colts head coach Shane Steichen has selected Daniel Jones as
the Indianapolis Colts Week one starter over there twenty twenty
three fourth overall pick Anthony Richardson Singer. There did not
seem to be much of a separation depending on the
reports coming out of Indianapolis, but there in recent days
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Shane stike In stress that some minute factors would loom
large in the decision, and ultimately that's what led to
him making that decision. Today, if you're the Colts, what's
next for AR five?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I have seen some musings around social media over the
past couple of days with an AFC West rival and
how their head coach has always been enamored with Anthony Richardson.
Could the Raiders trade for Anthony Richardson and sit him
behind Geno Smith? Because Pete Carroll has always loved the
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raw talent of Anthony Richardson, And if that has any juice,
if that has any sort of leg behind it, I
welcome it with open arms. Get that dude into the
division tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
But here's what I've been hearing about Pete King. I've
heard from multiple sources across the league. He's got three years.
He wants to win. In three years. It's much more
likely that Micah Parson would be a Las Vegas Raider,
and combining.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Jerry Jones is getting to you there. You're removing the
s every time.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm a Michael Parson guy now
just full fledged.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It's become part of my momback. Yeah that's right, Jerry.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Why don't you pronounce your most valuable commodities correctly? But
I could see the more likely scenario is that you
end up having the world beating edge rushing tandem of
Max Crosby and Micah Parson, so that Pete Carroll could
do something very unique and very different than the rest
of the league, and that is to have two of
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the top four, two of the top three pass rushers
in football on the same roster. Then you could see
Pete Carroll getting to a point of relevance in his
first two years as the head coach of Raiders when
he's what is he, Dan, You're eighty years old.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I think the moral of the story here is that
the Colts and Anthony Richardson are not living past his
rookie contract and that fifth year option will not be exercised.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Is it dumb to say that Anthony Richardson, you should
just cut bait and start the conversation about playing tight end.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I would tray lance him right now. I would tray
lance him tomorrow. Like, you know, he's not your quarterback.
If Daniel Jones beats him out, you know he's gone.
And what you have to do is the Kyle Shanahan
thing and go, sure, if mister irrelevant's gonna beat him out,
we are gonna cut ties with him. Let him go
to Dallas or wherever the heck. Where is Trey Lance?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Now? Trey Lance?
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Actually he looks awesome under Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh's charger Lance.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Is a charger. We'll see.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, dude, that.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
My thought, Roji and I might have I said cut bait.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I meant that should the Indianapolis Colts cut bait with
the quarterback experiment and say we own the rights to
this extremely talented Greek god of a body type and
make him a tight end. And now you would potentially
have you know your Tyler Warren as your true traditional
why and then developmentally try to get something out of
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a guy of the physical stature of ar five as
maybe an f I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Good lie getting that dude to commit to playing a
non quarterback role when he pulls himself out of games regularly.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I'd also say a good ball player that doesn't like
getting hit.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Good luck to that, to that dude to ever playing
quarterback ever again in this league. Hey, you better learn Canadian, buddy,
you better learn French Canadian because you're going to be
playing in the CFL.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
There, buddy, what's your own? Little Internet shows are driving
me crazy.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
So there's a story that's coming out of Washington that's
kind of This is getting a little weird. Now let's
go back to yesterday. So Jordan Schultz Fox Sports. He
reported that the Commanders have been shopping running back Brian
Robinson Junior to teams around the NFL. They're not looking
necessarily to trade him unless the asking, unless the price
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that they're looking for is qualitative. Right. Dan Quinn comes
out last night and says he and GM Adam Peters
informed Brian Robinson Junior on Saturday afternoon of their plan
to keep him out of the game. Quinn then addressed
the rest of the team that evening about keeping him
out of the game, and Quinn goes on to decline
to provide any specifics about their convo with Robinson or
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his future with the team. So my question to you
guys is, with their not being a clear answer to
what's exactly taking place there, how likely is it that
BRJ is traded before the start of the regular season.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
How much do you trust in the legs of Austin Eckler.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Just such a niche back. Austin Eckler is not your
threat redown back.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
He's not the player that you want turning forty five
to fifty five snaps a game.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
He's he's more slightly built.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
He is.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
What is this year eight for Eckler. He's a little
bit more, he's a bit longer in the tooth.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I don't think that you want to head your bets
on Austin Eckler as your as your go to guy.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Nine years of NFL experience on Eckler year look like Yeah,
it did look like Eckler had lost a step the
last time we saw him. Like he's still gonna be effective,
but he has definitely lost that that burst. Robinson's gonna
play for the Commanders, but I don't know if I'm
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giving him a new deal right now. Man, Like he's
a good running back, he's not great. Eight hundred yards
eight touchdowns last year, seven hundred and thirty yards five
touchdowns the year before eight hundred yards two touchdowns as
a twenty three year old rookie. I kind of think
that's who he is, and he might only have a
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couple more years of that level of play. If I'm Washington,
I know I have to pay Jayden Daniels three years,
four years from now. I'm not spending that money on
a running back, especially with what happened with Terry McLaurin recently.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I'm not doing any.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Of that, all right.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
I got an idea here. Since we're talking about that,
If you're the San Francisco forty nine ers, why aren't
you picking up the phone right now and calling the
commanders about Brian Robinson. That is a team that has
been injured, injured, injured at the running back position last
year and going into this offseason. Christian McCaffrey could use
a real one.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Bag running Yeah, he could.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
What is last year?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
In Christian McCaffrey's absence, there was there was some pretty
productive players at the position.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
That came out of nowhere.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Jordan Mason.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Jordan Mason was one of them, and I think there
was another back that came in as a flash in
the pan.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Jordan Mason still for nine er.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I'm not entirely sure your rushing leaders last year Jordan Mason.
Isaac Garendo.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
No, Jordan Mason is now a Minnesota Viking.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Isaac Garendo was was a draft pick out of Louisville
that ran incredibly fast forty yard dash at the combine
two years ago.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
And Patrick Taylor had a big game as well, but
that was about it.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Isaac is currently slidded as their second running back on
the dip charte right.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Now, which makes sense.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
You know, ironically, Isaac Garrendo, six foot two hundred and
twenty pound player from from Louisville does does run very well.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
But you Yahoo Sports just brought up that very very point.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Could the forty nine ers look to trade for a
running back with a familiar team and and yeah, that's
a that's a Brian Robinson Jr.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
That's a good thought. Now, how would Christian McCaffrey feel
about that? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Brian Robinson Junior. Is he's a bonafie starting running back
in the National football.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I mean, Cemax not going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Would Brian Robinson.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I'm just talking about from a locker room management standpoint,
one of your leaders of your.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Football team, Brian Robinson Junior.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Would he be the best tailback if he were to
come on the if you were to arrive in Denver
and become a Denver Bronco. Would he be the most
proven best running back?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
He and Dobbins are kind of contemporaries, right.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
They are very similar.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
They're kind of the same guy.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Dobbins nine hundred yards nine touchdowns last year in the
next full season that he had, I mean, it was
half a season. Five hundred yards two touchdowns in eight games,
and then as a rookie in twenty twenty he rushed
for eight hundred yards in fifteen games in nine touchdowns.
They're very similar in terms of their production.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
They are.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
And the interesting thing about Brian Robinson Junior is that
in his three years of service, he's never played more
than fifteen games. He's been a twelve game guy, a
fifteen game guy, and a fourteen game guy, and he's
never had more than eight hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Seven ninety nine has been his cap. So yeah, I
mean that is the right That is the right profile
now that I look at it.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
It's the right profile to fit a Christian McCaffrey. And
I thought Brian Robinson Junior was a little bit older.
This is just year four coming up for him. For
brj kJ one more your own little internet shows are
driving me crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Over the weekend, the Texans traded wide receiver John Metchi
the third to the Philadelphia Eagles, and in return, the
Texans are getting tight end Harrison Bryant in a fifth
round pick in exchange, as the Texans are getting a
sixth round pick as well as Michie. But the trade
for Bryant obviously comes because the Texans lost a young
(31:53):
tight end, Brevin Jordan, and so now they need a
backup for Dalton Schultz. But I want to focus on
the Eagles portion of things here because Mechi, entering his
fourth season, has only forty receptions for four hundred and
twelve yards and a touchdown in twenty nine games. If
you're the Eagles, I know he's not going to be
(32:14):
a major threat for you at wide receiver, but why
would you add another wide receiver depth piece when you
are a run first team anyway?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Ah Man, I don't Maybe it's because Machi doesn't command
the type of volume to be satisfied in the in
the locker room, right, to be to be, I mean,
I don't know, it's right.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
It's kind of that sess. I mean, he really is
that guy. Hey, Mechi's like.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
He's a wide receiver three, but he's got more physical attributes.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I don't know I could see it happening.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
How many more years of elite play do you have
out of a twelenty eight year old AJ Brown?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
I'd say four four?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Okay, that fours probab for me, it's probably on the
long side because once you hit thirty as one of
those elite, high volume receivers like AJ Brown has been
for his career, I think you start to hit a cliff.
So why not take a chance on a kid who
had sky high pedigree coming out of Alabama. I know
he wasn't a first rounder, but he was an early
second rounder, and you get to have him sit behind
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DeVonta Smith and AJ Brown and learn from those two
dudes and then hopefully kind of turn into something when
he's twenty six or twenty seven and AJ is over
that thirty and DeVonta Smith is coming up on twenty
eight to twenty nine years old at that time.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I think it's a good chance for them.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Is Devonte Smith in your opinions the two of you?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Has he been a success in the National Football League? Yes? No?
What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
No?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
I don't feel like he has been because I love
the prospect. I thought he was gonna he was gonna
completely What are we talking about.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
The worst season this guy has had was thirteen games
in which he caught seventy passes, sorry, sixty eight passes
for eight hundred and thirty three yards and eight touchdowns.
That was last year. His worst season in which they
won a Super Bowl. He's got multiple thousand yard receiving
or receiving seasons under his belt, another one at nine
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hundred and sixteen yards. He's been largely healthy his entire career.
He's been a disappointment. We're screwed in Denver. If DeVonta
Smith's been a disappointment at the wide receiver position, what
are we talking about?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Would you have said that DeVante Smith would have had
better statistics going into his fifth year than a Courtland
Sutton would have when he was going into his fifth year. Sure,
I mean he should be based off the draft profile
of a DeVante Smith picked ten overall in the twenty
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twenty one NFL Draft first round. His ceiling for touchdowns
in a season is eight eight.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
He was pick ten overall.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
He's a Super Bowl winning wide receiver at twenty six
years old, with multiple thousand yard receiving seasons, and is
relatively healthy.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
All the time.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Jerry Judy, his contemporary at Alabama, who we all thought
was the absolute bust of all busts, had more receiving
yards last season than Davonte Smith has had in any
one season of his career. And Jerry did it with
seventeen quarterbacks for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
He had two hundred and twenty nine yards.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
I don't know, man, I just feel like Davante Smith
hasn't been an absolute bust. He just hasn't been as
dominant as I saw. Man.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
That dude was a baller at all Obama.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I mean, he was cold blooded killer when you watched
him play against SEC defenses.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I just haven't seen it.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Sixty eight receptions, eight hundred and thirty three yards, eight
touchdowns and in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna kick that out of bed
here in Denver. Yeah, get out. That doesn't do anything
for me. Kick that out of bed.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I mean, as it relates to like elite wide receivers
wide receivers, I would give that a six seven.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
That's if I'd put that right there.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
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kJ and Mike Sanford. Yeah, they'd say spit on DeVonta
Smith if he was wearing orange and blue.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
You guys are crazy, I got weird.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I'm gonna put this very bluntly at the end of
a two K Tuesday spice girls.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
What a poll? kJ, who's your favorite spice girl?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
By the way, I'm a sporty spice guy.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Sporty spice guy. Huh A ginger spice guy for a while?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah really?
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Oh yeah, okay, sure tells me a little something into
about you.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Some references I don't know. I don't know what it was.
Which one is Beckham's wife?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Which one was she push posh spice. Yeah, that's not
a great English accent, but you get where I'm going.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
She's a push push spy.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
He's a bush guy. And then the scary spice girl.
I think her name was mel. She was on America's
Got Talent for a bunch of years. They all had
relatively like good careers.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
The uh.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Ginger spice I think her name is Jerry. She married
the dude who is the head of like red Bull
Racing for the last fifteen or something years.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Seems like a smart decision.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, posh dated and married and has kids with David Beckham.
I don't know what Sporty Spice did. You're keeping up
on her Wikipedia page. This is off the top of
my head. I know way more about the Spice girls
I should ever know. But I am going to put
this bluntly. I would give my left nut for DeVonta
Smith to be a Bronco. I would trade that right now.
(38:10):
You guys, you guys, kicking him out of bed is
like kicking a Spice girl out of bed.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Well, what I learned from our brilliant shot mos the
Texters is that we have some Eagles fans that listen
to this problem.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
They have people who have two eyes and watch football.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
No over the last four years, don't Sean Payton me
over the last four years.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
DeVonta Smith since he walked into the league, and again
going against guys who have been here, been there, and
done that in the league, a bunch of veterans who
had more seasons in their belt before he walked in
as a rookie. Since DeVonta Smith walked into the league,
his two hundred and forty four receptions are good for
fourteenth league wide. His yards per game are good for
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fifteenth league wide. His twenty two touchdown receptions are tied
with Terry mclaurin's to Von Diggs for tenth league wide
in the last four years.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And we don't want to touch any of that. And
what are that's a disappointment.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
He's got better numbers than DK Metcalf over the last
four years combined, better numbers than Jerry Judy, Garrett Wilson,
Jaln Waddle, Drake London, Brandon I, you Canico Collins, Amari Cooper,
and we don't think that guy has lived up to
number ten overall billing.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Solid number two wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
He's a number two wide receiver because AJ Brown is
there and Dallas Goddard is there and his quarterback has
fewer than two thousand pass attempts over the last five
years combined.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Solid number two wide receiver. And if you want to,
if you want to draft that at number ten overall,
go ahead, have fun with that.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Hey, Hey, if the standard is get at number two,
and we're not talking about a number two receiver like
we're talking about Jamar Chase and T Higgins is one
and two. That's a one A one B. This is
a very clear one and two he's good. I watch
is Alabama film and I was in love with Davonte Smith.
I was in love with the player. And just frankly,
(40:06):
I haven't seen as an NFL wide receiver. I haven't
seen the wow that I expected to see. The thing
you gotta understand, Raj is I love the player. I
loved the draft profile. I thought he was one of
the best route running receivers that I had ever seen
at the college level. What I haven't seen is the
dominance as a route runner. You know why, because he's slender,
(40:28):
because he gets eaten up by man coverage. Because NFL
press man coverage like a court, like a Patzertan the
second within the first five yards. Davonte Smith, when he
sees those types of looks, doesn't have the same kind
of juice as when he sees off and soft coverage.
He's a great free access receiver when he's given the
opportunity to run without any any any bumping at the
(40:53):
line of scrimmage. Oh and that's my story and I'm
sticking to it. And by the way, Sporty Spice, all
I found out is that she's still alive. She's doing well,
she's still kicking she's she ran the London Triathlon twice.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
She's a big time supporter of Liverpool.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
You never walk alone.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
Other than that, she's just kind of you know, she's
she's a performer. Electronic pop punk kind of deal.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
So there you go. Melanie C is what she knows.
She's known as now Melanie D.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I can't get I just can't get over with the
DeVonta Smith thing. But I okay, he's not your cup
of tea. I get it, I get it, But it's
like kicking a spice girl out of bed.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Like I think he I think he.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Would make a huge difference here in Denver for a
team that's more pass oriented than the Eagles are. Like,
he's a guy who over again, I was going over
the course of the four years combined since he walked
into the league, and there's a lot of number one
wide receivers that he is. He's around there, but like
he does that all on three hundred and thirty something targets,
(41:58):
which is down in like twentieth, tied for twentieth in
that time, and he's putting up numbers that are relatively
like number ten around the league in terms of like
average per game and reception tds. He's up there with
a bona fide number one in Terry McLaurin. He's up
there with a bona fide number one at least when
(42:19):
he was in his pardon me, in his prime in
Stefan Diggs and DJ Moore and Justin Jefferson only has
one more touchdown reception than he does over the last
four years. Like, I don't know, man, it's he does
it for me, doesn't do it for you, but he
does it for me.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
He does it for me.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
He just hasn't done it to the level that I
thought he would in the National Football League. That's where
I'm coming from, not the place that he's a bad player.
He's a very good He's a plus wide receiver two
in the NFL. Have you said he might have that
in Pat Bryant here, Oh, I do unpack that.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You've seen enough out of thirteen.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
I've seen enough that he is. He is the same
things that I just I just threw shade at with
regards to Devonte Smith, frankly, the same stuff that Jerry
Judy had a hard time with, the physical at the
line of scrimmage nature of the position in the National
Football League, Sean Payton and how he employs wide receivers.
You need to be big, you need to be strong,
(43:19):
you need to be physical. It's not so much about
just pure clock in the forty yard dash, because if
that was the case, then Jerry Judy would have hit
as a Denver Bronco.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Who is the kid out of Baylor that ran that
crazy sub four four forty and never turned into anything.
He was a I think he was a first round
draft pick to Tennessee if I'm correct, Like super small
but mega fast dude that were like we all thought
it was going to be the next you.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
All said John Ross. Was it not out of the
University of Washington John Ross?
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yes, he was in that same vein.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
I'm trying to remember the god the kid I remember
recruiting him out of Texas. He ended up playing it.
I think TCU Baylor over the course of his career.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Corey Coleman was the wide receiver that I'm looking for.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
He was.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Corey Coleman was physically huge like he was. He was
slapped together and but could run also just a little
bit stiff, A little bit stiff. Pat Bryan is not stiff.
He doesn't run great as we know, but he runs
functional and he runs powerfully, and I think you have
what is gonna end up being.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Man.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
Now, I love what I've seen out of Devon Vley,
I've loved what I've seen at times out of Marvin
Mims Junior. But to be a dependable wide receiver two
in Sean Payton's offense, man, I think the guy that's
going to be up for that role is gonna be
Pat Bryant this year.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
I do is to do part Bryan.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
As it stands August nineteenth, is Patrick Bryant already your
second best wide receiver on this team in your mind.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I'm gonna say yes.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
I'm gonna say yes based off the fact of what
we've seen at training camp. Caught my eye. He was
already working with the ones in the first week. His
football IQ is football maturity to be able to just
jump out there and play right now, I see it.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I see it.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Pat Brian's gonna be a star, and he's gonna be
another example of Sean Payton, George Peyton, but namely Sean
looking at all of us and saying, I was a
smart guy. Now you guess you than you Yet you
want to know what the forty yard dash was Pat
Bryan and his four point six seven and didn't matter.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
It didn't matter because I didn't can ball.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
It's gonna do it for us today, for coach Mike Samford.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Live out there at Valor Hi kJ Granderson behind the glass.
I'm Alex Ryan hemy thanks so much for joining us
on a two K Tuesday stick around.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
PhD's got so much more.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Next Nate and Andy on your drive home from three
to six today we learned something about each other. Coach
was a sporty spice guy. I was a ginger spice guy.
And apparently DeVonta Smith isn't good enough to play football
in Denver. See you guys tomorrow morning at
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