August 21, 2025 • 44 mins
0:00 - Coach and Raj discuss why Devaughn Vele became more and more expendable with the evolution of Troy Franklin and Pat Bryant. So what does this do for teams who want to maximize their picks like the Broncos? George and Sean have the blueprint and explain why it will lead to long term success.
12:43 - Could RB Jaleel McLaughlin be on the trading block? Coach and Raj discuss what his value should be regarding the trade market if a team wants his services.
31:43 - The Broncos track record of drafting around where the Broncos might be selecting with the new Saints 4th Round Pick has been very good! Raj uses his example to breakdown why trusting who drafts still matters! George Paton deserves a pay raise.
12:43 - Could RB Jaleel McLaughlin be on the trading block? Coach and Raj discuss what his value should be regarding the trade market if a team wants his services.
31:43 - The Broncos track record of drafting around where the Broncos might be selecting with the new Saints 4th Round Pick has been very good! Raj uses his example to breakdown why trusting who drafts still matters! George Paton deserves a pay raise.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Third and five Next Bowls, A block touchdown Fleay his
first as a pole and the Broncos of taking the
lead on a six yard touchdown pass to Devon Vley
out of Utah second goal.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
He keeps she throws ho touchdown Devonley with is he
thinking it's going to keep him out?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Like?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
No, no, no, He's gonna be full, go start a
training camp. Everything's good.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
We should beat That's that's it. Did you hear me? Okay,
that's what that's it means. That means it stops with Bailey.
Any concern there in terms.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Of Von No, no, no, no, all good?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
That's it. Well, yeah, that's it for the career of
Devon Vley here in Denver, as the Broncos trade away
their former seventh round pick out of Utah yesterday.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Well, the new college football world where you're playing twenty six,
twenty seven, and twenty eight year olds, they turn into
basically third, fourth, fifth year vets. They get traded in
just their second year of pro football, which is the
case with Devon vleated what twenty seven year old.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
And this is something that we talked about yesterday as
we welcome you into a Thursday edition of the Morning
Sprint RAJ alongside the coach Mike Sanford, one day ahead
of when we start high school football here on Altitude
Sports Radio ninety to five. We've also got some giveaways
to Elich Gardens going on today, so stay tuned for
all of those things. And as always at eleven twenty,
(01:59):
we will go through the biggest stories in the NFL
with Kate J's NFL Notes, But we start with the
big trade. Devon Vley has been traded to the New
Orleans Saints for a twenty twenty sixth fourth round pick
and a seventh round pick, So they essentially turn a
guy who's selected in the seventh into that very same
(02:19):
selection and what could amount to be like pick one
hundred next year. If New Orleans is gonna suck as
bad as we think they're going to, now, I'm gonna
miss Devon Vley. Yeah, great, great, dude, great pick six'
five two. Ten he's the Prototypical Sean payton wide. Receiver
(02:41):
it did feel, though where are you gonna get your touches?
NOW i asked you this question, yesterday, coach when we
are kind of going over our fifty three man. Roster
it's something that we actually didn't get to on air.
Yesterday when you AND i were talking across the, TABLE i,
went would you Trade vley for a? Sixth and you
looked at. Me you, WENT i, said would you trade
him for a? Fifth and you went AND i, said
(03:03):
how about a? Fourth and then this Weird Jim carrey
grinchy smile started to creep its way across your. Face
forgot about that.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Conversation it just wasn't part of, our part of our
yesterday because if it would have been on, air would
have done that rep.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yesterday With Victor.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Olafson so this glitchy smile creeps. Here they're just gonna
have to Trust ra and the fourth round.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Pick is what it ends up. Being it will essentially
be a top one hundred.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Pick that was a really good off. Air our best
radio is off, Air.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Oh it sure. Is it's so. Good you guys miss
a hell of a show five minutes in between, segments
and it's because we actually we kind of like each.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
OTHER i, mean you, know fun. Talking we don't hate
each other's, guts which is.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Good so pick number one hundred last, Year luke, McCaffrey good.
Player Troy franklin was selected at one oh, two really
good player a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Ago, okay SO i heard a couple of things speaking
Of Troy franklin.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And starry McCaffrey two years ago in the Same.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Franklin, Yeah i've heard a lot about the success Of
Troy franklin is the reason That Devon veley is being
shipped off and got great value back for return on.
INVESTMENT i, mean you're not fleecing The, Saints but you
want to talk about just a great business. Operation he
drafted the guy in a, seventh he plays as a,
(04:29):
rookie and you turn him around for a fourth and
a seventh just a mirror what sixteen months later after the.
Draft that's really really good.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Business do you know who The broncos selected with pick
one hundred and one last year this past? Draft?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Uh the one it's a. Guy Uh, no it's. NOT
i was gonna say it's it's Not Pat.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Bryant, No Pat bryant was selected in that same third.
Round But bryant was selected to close was THE. U
it was like the Resolution. JAKE i think it was
like a compensatory pick ye that they. Got So Savion
jones was selected at one oh. One The broncos have
fared well on the last two. Drafts, again we don't
(05:11):
really know What Savion jones is going to, be but
from what we've seen in camp from Both savion and Q,
as you're like young additions to uh to to the.
Defense AND i haven't even Mentioned JOHN. A barron being
an elite pick with the first round there the early
returns have been, good but With savion And Troy franklin
(05:32):
over the last two years like, that that pick one
hundred is pretty good For.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Sean it's a pretty juicy pick right there for any
team if you handle it. Correctly so back to, this
This Troy franklin arrow up potentially leading to the lack
of need or even the void of potential touches there
would be For Devon. VELEY i don't think It's Troy,
franklin they play a different. POSITION i think It's.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Paber.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Oh it is Very Vest, bryant the rapid ascent Of Pat,
bryant and this is WHAT i go back to we
all threw shade At Pat bryant for his forty time
what on Draft, day just about everybody to a certain,
Extent like, REALLY i Think illinois wide receiver that runs
in the four. Sixes, Really here's what changed it for.
(06:22):
Me it wasn't the four catch seven was at seventy
yard second game of the preseason performance where he was
just catching.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Everything he's just, big he's.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Physical what did it for me was when we were
doing our broadcast a mere two three weeks ago from,
that what is?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
It what side were we? On the southeast on the south, Side,
yes southeast is south way more, correct the south east
side of The Dove Valley. Complex And i'm looking over
Les garment out TODAY i.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Did i'm looking at the southwest side at a weird
at a strange, angle And i'm looking over at one
on ones in the red Zone broncos On broncos crime,
Happening AND i saw somebody create major separation on a red.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Zone route And i'm, like who is? That, oh That's Pat.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Bryan that was, Filthy my, gosh can that guy? Transition
and Then i'm, like, wait who is that Against pats er?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Ten the.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Second, oh and you know what happens when you're a
coach and you go back and you talk about that one.
Rep there's people that were on the field, saying, hey
did you see? What do you see What Pat bryant
did TO ps two in the red?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Zone that's not.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
NORMAL i would even go to the point of, saying
you know what that felt? Like and looked like it
looked and felt a little bit like Aman Ross Saint,
brown same profile for six. Forty guy plays explosively off
of his, insteps creates, separation awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Ability to drive at the at the route break.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Point and it just became completely evident you have the
type there to play your big, slot your, why or Your,
zebra depending on if it's ten or eleven. Personnel there's
almost some really good interchangeable redundancy in a positive way
Between Evan, ingram who is a basically a glorified slot
(08:19):
receiver and Now Pat. Bryant that those two guys can be.
Interchangeable you didn't Need Devon, valley which is. CRAZY i
would never have said that when this thing, started and
there was a nice point in time in training camp
where you started seeing Von vley come into his own
you know, what this opens up this opportunity for the
other big body type that you AND i have loved
(08:40):
the whole training. Camp, SEE i don't know if it.
Does i'm talking about on practice squad because then it's
the next man. Up okay that you have that body.
Type we're talking About Jaquen. DAVIS i don't Think Joaquin
davis might have even had a chance to make practice
squad to let alone have a chance to potentially play
into playing time at some point in the event that
there is an, injury.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Especially with how much we've Seen Courtney jackson And Drewan
newton factor in on special teams and, returns like there
may be spots for those two guys because we've seen
them utilized more wrong To jackson looked pretty.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Sweet that's one of the one of the kind of
glossed over storylines from. Preseason Game number two is number eighty,
nine the undrafted free agent out Of Arkansas state looked
like a he looked like a football.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Player.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Man it's something about eighty nine and The broncos in
training camp that just it always that number always.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Pops, in nice solid. Number it's who was?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
It last year Was brandon who is that it was
the receiver that it Caught Johnson. Johnson, Yeah Brandon. Johnson
he got a couple of touchdowns at the end of
the twenty two to twenty three, season and then last
year in training camp he did he did some good stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Too can we Get Evan ingram out of number? One?
Now Put ingram back in number? Seventeen oh, yeah it's.
Right give number one to somebody.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
ELSE i think he wants. One maybe give one TO. R. J.
Harvey get R. J harvey out of four? Seven weren't
there SOME i thought there were some jersey.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Changes were? There?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Maybe maybe it's just. Speculative it's Get harvey out of.
Thirty SO i love the number thirty. SEVEN i just
don't love it for a football, player for an offensive football.
Player Rodney harrison looked great in thirty. Seven all, right
this is gonna get. Weird Chris drury is a hockey,
player thirty seven? Elite all, Right i'm gonna get real weird.
Here have you ever in your just your everyday talk
(10:21):
when you speak in, hyperbole have you ever just had
a random number that you use for just about everything
in a hyperbolic? Sense so, like, yeah it's like it's
like ninety seven miles away from, here or LIKE i
have like ninety seven thousand issues THAT i need to deal.
With ninety seven is a good.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
One you know what my dad has been SINCE i
was a child is thirty. Seven why he just uses
thirty seven for, EVERYTHING i don't. Know he's a thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Guy thirty seven miles away doesn't feel like it's.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
So but you add like you can add thousand to thirty,
seven you can add. Million there's a lot of different
ways that you can really conjure up thirty. Seven like
my dad's like one of those, guys like he's, hungry you,
know Old Coach saffer.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Thirty seven dogs.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Today, yes he's like he's driving the cars LIKE i
could eat thirty seven double doubles right.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Now i'll take it real like you. Uh, Yeah So
broncos make the big Trade Devon veley to The New
Orleans saints free shot fourth in a Seventh, YEAH i
WAS i, TOO i WAS. I i was not Expecting
denver to make really any more roster moves outside of
like maybe someone gets cut cut days on the twenty,
(11:31):
SIXTH i believe twenty fifth or twenty. Six one of
those two, days maybe somebody gets cut twenty, six thank YOU.
kJ maybe somebody gets chopped off from a team that's
an inside linebacker and you need a little bit more depth,
there you need another veteran just because Of i'm uneasy
about the. INJURIES i thought that was like the only
thing that they may have done moving. FORWARD i kind
(11:53):
of thought we knew the fifty three made fifty three man.
Roster BUT i also don't believe that moving on from
From velay is about the wide receiver room and holding a.
SPOT i do think it's about they're not completely sold
on who their running backs are right now that you
might hold another spot for a, back or they're hoping
(12:17):
that someone gets cut and they, go that's our. Player,
now who's the discussion between running back? Wise we'll get into.
It on the other, side that's Coach Mike. Sanford three oh,
three five oh four oh nine to two five on
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Speaker 5 (13:13):
Myself when you did that read and you have your
stack of, PAPERS nfl notes is in. There you've got
all your different promotional readings looking for the right. One
but you were just you're such a journal like you
can tell you went to school to be a. Journalist
When BIG j, Journal Big jay, journal which when you
grab all the stack of papers and you just neatly
snap them against the against the table and then organize,
(13:36):
them it has the sound of. Journalists have you heard
of the term like a vocal stem or an audio, stem.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Like as in. Stimulation, yeah, okay so it's something that
kind of goes around media now now and. Again it's
a it's like a very fondly held memory of something
that you grew up watching or listening. To it's making
its way on like and then one of my and
(14:05):
typically what it is it's it comes from like a you,
know it's A SpongeBob quote that is just always stuck
in your head from the time you were like seven years,
old and it just makes you feel some sort of.
Way one of my audio stems is that who's it?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
FROM i don't, know some some sports radio guy or sports.
Center it's very Sports it's Very Sports center Is it's.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
VERY i Think Van pelt is a is he a?
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Gathering you, know Eyes in And Neil everett would do
it all the. Time they have the they have the
the paper strewn across their desk and then you hear
a little bit of a.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Shuffle it's one of my. Favorite i'll NEVER i will
never get over. It so if you guys hear that a,
lot it's not for, you it's for. ME i like it.
TOO i like my little radio reach.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Around all, right we're talking about The at least you
have the common Courtesy rush film metal jacket.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Reference My broncos fifty three man. Rosters we're talking about
what moving on From Devon vley actually. Means does it
mean that you're going to to bring in another wide? Receiver,
no unless a big name gets cut and you can
make it, happen it's probably not gonna. Happen So i'm
looking immediately to running Back, Dobbins, Harvey locklock.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
McLaughlin i Think. Lock i'm, like he's, locked. Dude Sean
pay loves that. Guy he should man loves that he's
The he's the best. Story julia McLaughlin is a lock
to make this.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Team he's been a lock all training. Camp so many
people talking about, like Oh julia might be on the.
Outside look at shut.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Up didn't we feel Like devon was a? Lock AND
i know trading doesn't Necessarily Could julia ever be?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Freighted? Sure, dude If i'm a team that is, despinately does.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
He slightly fit into that same category of divine really?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Good but you might have gotten? Better clearly you got
better in our J, Harvey.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
But did you did you maybe get similar to slightly
better In Tyler. Badet they're kind of the, same, bigger
and he's a better third down pass. Protector So it'slin
is just more of a scat guy and he's more
dangerous in the passing.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Game he is more dangerous in space Than. TYLER i
think he. Is and how many times have we seen
this first team offense during training camp work on quick,
checkdowns bubble screens at just finding a way to get
the ball out Of bo's hands, quickly and you need
running back to be able to do. That it's not
only gonna Be Marvin mimms behind the line of. Scrimmage
it's certainly gonna be a lot of looks at the running.
(16:51):
Back SO I i Think julil McLaughlin has always been
a lock to make this. Team now it's a difference
when you bring, up, oh could like le will be
a possibility for. Trade, yeah he could, Be but that
doesn't take away me thinking That Devon vley was a
lock to make The broncos. Roster just because he was
traded does not mean he was. Cut, right there's a
(17:13):
vast difference between the. TWO i saw a lot of
people going after On, twitter you, know you, know obviously
it's the, uh the receipt police going after people being
like there's no Way Devon veley doesn't make this. Team
he wasn't.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Cut my Pal Benjamin albright's been just wearing. Ros he
didn't say that he wasn't potentially a, trade, right it's vastly.
Different he said he's not getting, Cut so sure it Could.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Jalil get traded to a team that needs a running.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Back, Yes jeelil is not getting. Cut you heard it here.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
FIRST i mean that's my read on. IT i agree with,
you he's getting. CUT i agree with your.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Read and you know, What jelil has also currently AND
i guess the same could be argued For Tyler beiday
And Blake. Watson but undrafted free agent man with experience
cost controlled to the nth, degree that's a really valuable
thing for a.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Roster, also if you told me today, that, like you,
know who's a running back needy team right?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Now that position outside of the like the very top
five six guys in the, league and it just seems
like there's a bunch of JUST i think a lot
of teams are somewhat running back. Needy, CLEVELAND i don't.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Know you go back To New, orleansisco go To New
orleans to, say, hey, fellas like you really trust thirty
year Old dalvinkmara to stay Healthy San francisco wouldn't be
a bad. One how about you give us a Fifth
like if someone told me that a fifth rounder was
on the table For julil mclough WHEN i trade him. Today,
YEAH i love the, PLAYER i think he should be
on the. Team but you guys know, Me i'm mister draft,
(18:50):
pick and it's all about value with undrafted, players whether
it's value on the field or turning an undrafted player
or any pick into something that can help you down the.
Road we're at this point right with The broncos being
done with the. Rebuild they're done with the. Rebuild we
know that except FOR i don't picks, four, five, six
and seven.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Years are you done with the? Rebuild it like the weapon,
position just weapons on.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Off being done with the rebuild does not mean that
you trade away all of your.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Picks, No i'm, saying are you done like the? Rebuild
if you took this team from two thousand and twenty
to twenty.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Twenty, three which was just, Bad.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
You've gotten better in the offensive, Line you've gotten way
better in the.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Defense.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Everywhere the defensive rebuild to, me feels done outside of
just making good business decisions and moving on from guys
that are potentially up for big contracts that you just
don't want to Pay VISA vi Possibly John Franklin. Myers,
offensively the rebuild doesn't feel done in terms of WHAT
i really Believe Sean payton's gonna want to do with
(19:58):
regards to the passing game threat a real bona fide
scary human. Being, SURE i will give you, that but
that's that's really a one player as it pertains to
The velay. Trade and then, this you, know, hypothetical someone
Wants julia. McLoughlin here's a fifth rounder or a late
again late fourth rounder who that heck knows what could
(20:19):
actually Happen, Like julia was used not as much As
vle last, year but he was used positively in a
running back room that was crap last. Season if someone
wants to trade you a, fifth, forum you package a
fourth and a fifth and you move up higher in
round three if you see a guy that you really,
like that that's what all of this turns. Into so,
yeah if someone wants to give me a valuable pick
(20:41):
For julia, mcloffin, YES i trade it. Today it doesn't
mean THAT i don't think he's good enough to be
on this, team BECAUSE i very much.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Do so who's the competition right?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Now for WHAT i guess De Vaughan valay's roster spot
if we believe it might be at the running back.
Position who is the competition really.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Between Estimate watson Mid?
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Day so you've invested In estime because he's a draft,
pick fifth round draft.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Pick but that's a draft pick you've invested in you could.
Do you have to throw in the fullbacks as running
backs as.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Well you got too injured full Back Body. Tape burton's
gonna miss four games ON I. R so do you
even do you hold a roster spot for a fullback?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Here can you get through four games without bringing a
full back onto the? Roster you did bring a full back?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
On?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Well you do Like Adam? Prentiss is you? Know is
he A colorado? NATIVE i don't know nothing about full
Back Adam. Prentiss my brain only has so much space in.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
It here's A csu Ram okay transferred To South. Carolina
So i'll tell you, what, man he's got the the,
ultimate the ultimate two for in college football.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Mascots he was A ram and then a game. Cop,
Yeah oh my, GOD i love. That it's pretty. Good
better if he was like a. Cat, nah see Where i'm?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Going, NO i, DON'T i, know very sophomoric of. You
if you're if you know you're Getting Michael burton back
in week?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Five can't you get through four weeks with having like
one of your tight ends Like Lucas kroll going and
play the seven snaps a game at the very most
that a fullback is going to take in this, all we,
Said Nate adkins is banged up? Too how how do
we as? Well how long is?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
It?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Four four? Games? Geez what?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Happened did anything released on exactly what those injuries?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Were is that?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
It did you see anything in the right in the
preseason games or at?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Practice? Uh Nate adkins underwent ankle. Surgery that's not a
tight rope surgery to a high ankle. Spring do you
know what that? Is?
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah the tyro you know is the first program or
franchise that was doing there that were doing tight ropes
to get players back off high. Ankles high ankles used
to be sometimes season ending. Injuries they're they're almost a.
Fracture they're basically just a mechanism short of being a
full whatever tibby IF i don't know my leg buns.
(23:18):
Fracture So nick saban had was a Doctor, andrews the
big time doctor out Of, alabama the. Surgeon he had
this procedure that was revolutionary at the. Time and these
guys would get back from high ankle sprains in like three.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Weeks used to be like a four month. Injury pretty.
Cool can't you use one of those tight ends to
step in for a physical enough instead of holding a
roster spot For Adam. Prentiss croll's not physical.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Enough from What i've, Seen, LOANER i Don't loaner is
probably gonna be a practice squad.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Guy sean didn't speak very highly Of loaner the other
day two days, ago When shan was talking about, him
he was, like we we have a long road ahead of.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Us it's not it's not. Great there's he's barely played.
FOOTBALL i understand, that but he was he was drafted
to play. Football he wasn't pulled on as an undrafted free.
Agent he just doesn't you know. What you, know what's
weird about. Him he doesn't look like a player that
needs seasoning in the game of. Football you, know what
(24:24):
he looks. Like he looks like a football player that's
just not very. Good it doesn't have any elite. Trade
that's What i've seen it at training camp.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Practice this Is Sean payton On Caleb.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
LONER i would say a little, bit a little, bit
but if we gotta get, going you, know we gotta get.
Going BUT i would say a little, bit you, know
just overall his football, knowledge.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
We gotta get. Going it's a lot of little bits.
There there's there's not a lot of time for you
to show me. Something we gotta get. Going but if
we gotta get, going we do have to get. Going,
CALEB i don't have time for. YOU i will leave
you in the. Dust little.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Duckling he's not the guy get road before a. Camera
he runs you over man. Everybody just a, great, great
great question here from From Eric. Nelson could estimate convert
to being in a fullback you.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Want to make the?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Team That's it's like it's like the it's like The
Adam silver better Learn chinese buddy. Meme like you look
at odd your estimate right now and you, say, Hey,
bud better learn, fullback, buddy because there's nothing that oddric
estimate does right now as a tailback that's been on
display that you'd, say that's that's even plus the plus
side of AN.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
NFL i stopped thinking about. Him he's.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Done you better like start eating a, lot just stop
by and get late night taco bell every night and
become a full back and run through another man's.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Face do you hold that off that spot for another
man on the offensive, line just knowing that eventually an
injury is gonna come back and kill you because they've
been largely healthy for two full.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Years so you're Keeping Paul Cheski pert And Forsyth crumb
and You're crumb is like a swing practice squad activation
player last year crumb, yep because now you lost Guard,
dulo which was a big.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Loss.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
GUARDULOS i didn't see the vision in year one Of.
GUARDJULO i saw the vision in year. Two and he
was fighting some injuries last year in training. Camp but
his body looked bad last. Year now he looks he
looks like a.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Dude your offensive Lineman, Forsyth Paul, Chewsky, Crumb, pert and then, Mclinchy,
Minors Wattenberg powers. Bowls those are your your kind of.
Locks do you hold a spot For Will, sherman do
you hold a spot For? Throckmorton just hoping To god
(26:52):
that you stay healthy yet. Again and it hasn't been
the healthiest like training camp for the offensive line. EITHER
i haven't felt like no one's gone down with. Injury
but the McGlinchey thing at the, beginning it, was it was. Alarming,
yeah it's it.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Was it was a it was a reality check Of,
hey things happen to the most important position group in.
Football things do, happen and you do lose those. Players it's, funny, LIKE, i,
man you take those guys for. Granted i'm going through
it right. Now i'm so incredibly blessed with a great
group of of of offensive linemen myself very similar To
(27:27):
Sean payton and His broncos offensive.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Line.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Man you you just can't take those dudes for, granted
because there there are so many teams in pro football
and college, game high, school all levels of football that
would die to have a, solidified healthy group of offensive
linemen that are a true starting. Five and the thing
you got it with The. Broncos, now do you feel
good about your top? Seven like you've already Seen Alex
Paul chessky And Matthew pert play in significant minutes on this,
(27:54):
team and the drop, up the drop off wasn't wasn't
there at, all.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Malays campbell smacked Around Matt pert a little during that
joint practice on That.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Thursday that was just old man's. Strength that was just,
like get over, here that's my.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Bike what give me that pot? Pa do you hold
a spot for an inside linebacker if someone gets? CUT
i don't love the quality.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
There outside Of Lavelle, Bailey Justice, ornat and then your
two starters And drake Green Lawn Alex, singleton nobody else
has even flashed from a special team's.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Perspective sanders on ir for at least four. Games what's
his what's his first? Name? Drew? Oh, jeez, YEAH i
was thinking of undrafted free? Agents, sorry, uh in your
practice squad right? NOW i don't. Know it's a it's a,
basically it's an. Unknown SO.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I don't know he's The utah. LINEBACKER i think he
might have some special teams. Value he just he's looked
overmatched in training camp. Practice he wears like jersey forty,
ONE i believe.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Forty forty three something like.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
That there's a, couple there's a couple of just they
they look like they look like run of the mill college.
Linebackers that group after really After Lavelle, Bailey insternad.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
That might be it that that might be the spot
that you hold out. On is that if someone becomes
available from. That from an inside linebacking, perspective you, go
death isn't. Great that's why we traded Away, vailey not
because we want to bring in another wide receiver or
because Like Tyler badat has to be on this. Team it's,
because oh, god what happens If Drake greenlaw misses six
(29:29):
games And Alex singleton, misses you, know three of those
six games at the very same. Time then we get
murdered between the. Tackles then what happens With James cook
in the first round last year happens again because we
have no one who can stop the. Run that might
be the, spot that might be the big brain operation
here from a roster construction, standpoint is that you move
(29:51):
on From Devon vailey because you're hoping that an inside
linebacker becomes available five days from right. NOW i just
don't know who the heck that's gonna.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Be Drew sanders is closer THAN i THINK i assumed
he would be from WHAT i from What i'm, hearing
which is. Good that's a that's a pop of good.
Depth and now the group with so he got, hurt
what three weeks ago it? WAS i thought it was
like the first week of training.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Camp let's let's call it three weeks and that is
a that's a six week injury. Probably so what he
misses those four games ON ir that are demanded and
he comes back week, five that makes me feel a
little bit. Better So i'd rather take ON i would
rather take on a cut inside linebacker that's a veteran
(30:40):
than hold the spot For Audric estime Or Tyler. Bidet
doesn't do anything to. Me, yeah So Drew, sanders it
was exactly a month.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
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Speaker 3 (33:31):
Committed To Louisiana. Tech it's gonna be a it's gonna
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up all of his competition right. Now he's throwing that
rat poison at the other competition right, now is what he's.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Doing hey, man there's an acronym man for our football
team right. Now A Ds ain't done squat squat stuff Stuff,
shenanigans aint, Dune.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Shenanigans. Shuck, oh we've been Talking ain't, Done. Tyler there we,
Go thank you very, much ain't. Duncane we've been talking
a lot about The devon vlet. Trade, obviously it's the
big story from yesterday and going into today for The
broncos as we close up the preseason this. Week The
broncos have dominated fourth round picks dating back for the
(34:16):
last like seven. Years you want to go over this
list right. Now we've already talked About Savion, jones who
was a third round compensatory essentially a fourth round pick last.
Year depends how you want to look at. It it's
either super late third or super early fourth. Round Savion
jones early returns are really like the, player very versatile
on that defensive. Line coming out OF lsu twenty twenty,
(34:40):
four one hundred and second. Overall Troy franklin freshman year
rookie year rather was, eh it felt like a freshman.
Year it did feel like a freshman. Year case of
the drop. Season you know.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
What's good About Troy, franklin though he kind of put
on the freshman fifteen in a good.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Way after it means about fifteen.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Pounds it looks fifteen pounds heavier and more, muscular a
different type of freshman. Fifteen then Maybe raj your your
ex girlfriend from college that you you did indeed part
ways with when she put on said fifteen?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Pounds whoa getting that? From are we getting?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Close speaking of you, know natural and positive weight, Gain
we're getting close to The.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Oh yeah we. Are it could be any, day any
day between now and like a month from. Now oh,
MAN i.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Care i'm so. Excited, Man i'm so CAN I CAN
i come to the hospital or is that be?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Weird?
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Sure like during kind of up To, Caitlyn CAN i
come during? Them i'd prefer that you're not there During, Okay,
Right although you've.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Taken a snap or two man like in an emergency,
situation IF i know there's sure hands, There i've handled.
Pigskins if you will that have been been in adverse.
Conditions so if you godd the wife doesn't listen to the,
show yeah she, should does she? Should she would like
it all. Right they didn't have a fourth rounder in
(35:55):
twenty twenty, three but the closest they got was late
in the third eighty third overall in twenty twenty. Three
Cornerback Riley moss now not a fourth round. Pick but
if you're gonna utilize This saints pick as like essentially
pick number one, hundred THEN i can fudge my brain
to get down to pick eighty. Three in twenty twenty,
(36:16):
two you add back to back selections in the fourth.
Round damory mathis solid, player might not make the team this,
year probably deserves to make it in the, secondary but
that second airy unit is just way too deep right.
Now tomorrow mathis at one fifteen and then Ioma uazrique
swinging a. Miss Unfortunately Iowa state lost a year due
(36:39):
to the gambling. Suspension don't know if he'll make the
team this. Year twenty twenty one was an absolute home
run in the late third Round Quinn minors pick number ninety,
Eight Baron browning pick number one oh, five home, run
pretty good did not miss on those in twenty. Twenty
you missed great at All McTelvin agim at ninety. Five
(37:02):
who's that? Is he still in the. League albert Ogueybu
nam at pick number one eighteen in the fourth. Round
not Great McTelvin Nick Telvin ajeem maybe arguably an all
name just an all name team. Guy you missed. There
But albert oh at one eighteen another swing in a.
Miss you're just trying to find a way to connect
him With Drew locke and, like, hopefully, hey you guys
(37:24):
knew each other in, College like that means it'll. Work,
nope nightmare. There twenty nineteen home run pick seventy one
in the third. ROUND i can't really fudge that to
fourth because that's really truly middle of the third. Round Draymond,
jones solid third round. Pick twenty. Eighteen you Got Josie
jewel And Isaac yadam to SOLID nfl players Like Isaac.
(37:46):
Yadam does he make The saints this? Year if he
makes The saints and he plays as a, starter they
probably won't get a compensatory fourth round pick this.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Year it's not.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
BAD a couple of fourth round are still in the.
League from the twenty eighteen. Draft they've done pretty darn.
Well Isaac. Kadam His wikipedia looks like. Mine in. College
he just bounced all over the Place, Broncos.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Giants, Packers, Texans saints forty nine ers back To saints
just in.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
A mirror what six Years, yeah bounced all over the
place twenty sixteen late third, round essentially fourth, Round Justin
simmons out Of Boston. College the franchise has done very very,
well late third and early fourth very very. Well that's
(38:32):
the reason WHY i love this, thing, MAN i isn't it?
Amazing George peyton a couple of years ago felt like
he was inches away from being.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Canned it felt Like Sean payton was hired in order
to Fire George.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Peyton oh to dig the great he was the.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Undertaker the two takes That i've had that have not
come even remotely close to fruition with regards To Sean,
payton one. Vance joseph will be the perfect scapegoat if
it ever goes. Wrong he's already been fired by this
daying franchise as a head. Coach and would anybody be that?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Upset?
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Now what you would? Be BECAUSE i think his story
has been really a cool story and he is embraced
as really a part Of colorado sports. History he's a,
buff he's been At he had a renaissance of his
career from being fired as a head coach and coming
back as a decordinator and even overcoming a seventy point
melee In South.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Beach denver loves a good defensive, coordinator and if you
lean into that, ROLE i know he's not as like
long in the tooth As Wade phillips was when he
came here and starting to feel That broncos defense starting
to feel a little bit that way, though if you
dial into, that Like i'll eventually get another look at head.
Coach MAYBE i want, it MAYBE i, Don't but you
(39:54):
kind of dig into, That i'm gonna be the best
defensive coordinator in the league right, now AND i can chill.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
Him question why the heck Would Vance joseph want to.
Leave he's gonna take another bad job and event you're going.
AGAIN i, mean it's the hardest thing to get in
the position of offensive or defensive coordinator when you're actually
responsible for the performance of that, unit Which Joe lombardi
(40:21):
here is not responsible ultimately for the.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Unit he, is in name only an offensive.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Coordinator but the hardest thing to, get, man is to
get your personnel. Right when you got it, right you
gotta savor it because you have an opportunity to build
something almost to the to the extent of like The Steel,
curtain The Pittsburgh, steelers The Buddy Ryan, earraw like, you
The Orange, crush the The No Fly. Zone you have
those opportunities right in front of. You and if You're Vance,
(40:49):
joseph you're gonna continue to get paid. Handsomely you're doing just.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Fine so that thought process went To. Rye what was
the other?
Speaker 5 (40:56):
One it was That George peyton was going to be
the fall guy because he made the rust deal air,
quotes and it looked Like sean was game of throning
this situation around The Russell wilson narratives that that's that's
(41:18):
the Other peyton's, guy that's that's not my This peyton's.
Guy but, somehow some, way, man you know, What Sean
payton recognized that dude's pretty good at evaluating, talent that
dude can, draft that dude's really good in a really
in the second through seventh.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Round you Know what's so abundantly clear is that When
sean came here and again he it felt Like George
peyton was inches away from being kided because for the
until they win A Super, bowl you are shoveling dirt
on the. Corpse that is The Russell wilson. Contract always
(41:53):
you're you're trying to find a way to have grass
and flowers grow on top of. That so when someone walks,
by you don't see the, tombstone you just, go, oh
that's a that's a pretty. Meadow oh, crap what's buried underneath? It,
Right you're always going to do that until you find.
Success When sean came in, here it was so very
clear That sean was, LIKE i got the pro. Personnel
(42:14):
don't worry about. THAT i can handle the pro, personnel.
Right and that was the other. Thing IF i have
a guy who my WHO i want in the, DRAFT
i want out of, College i'm gonna tell you And
i'm gonna get. It there's no there is no. Conversation
it's my. Dude but if you look at the draft
picks That George peyton's, made, sure The Russell wilson contract
(42:35):
was a disaster and there's no getting a lot of
different abject, disaster.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
A lot of different arguments about, who who's, Who whose
hands bear the blood of The Russell wilson.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Contract his name's in the, contract he says it buck.
Stops where with the ownership, Group now it, does, Probably
BUT i think the ownership group was a little bit
too green to understand what was. Happening, well, sure, yeah
that guy's A Super bowl. Winner why.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Not it was a failed version Of Rick george and
see you making The Hill mary of hiring the only
guy that could drum up the excitement and the. Interest
it worked in the case OF ceu And Rick george
and of course Coach, prime it didn't work at. All in,
fact it was an absolute abject disaster With Russell wilson
(43:23):
and everything that he brings from a hype.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Perspective so at the end of the, day you gotta.
Perform you just. Didn't George payton's draft picks going back
to twenty twenty one when he overtook that, Room Patzertan, Quinn,
Miners Jonathan, Cooper Nick, Benito Marvin, Mims Drew, Sanders Bo,
Nicks Jade, Baron Pat, BRYANT. R. J, Harvey, Sadion, JONES H.
(43:46):
Robinson he went from being inches away from canned to
is this dude like a top THREE gm in the,
league top FIVE gm in the. League that's HOW i
feel right. Now and, yeah my my love and my
loyalty can be swayed by a very calm. Breeze it's
(44:07):
all in that, corner, now, Brother it's all in that.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Corner we all thought That Russell wilson was going to
be coming to The Denver metro and he would be
the chef that would be. Cooking what we learned Really
George peyton's he's the real, chef.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Maw iron chef of pounding. Drafts that dude has been.
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Third and five Next Bowls, A block touchdown Fleay his
first as a pole and the Broncos of taking the
lead on a six yard touchdown pass to Devon Vley
out of Utah second goal.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
He keeps she throws ho touchdown Devonley with is he
thinking it's going to keep him out?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Like?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
No, no, no, He's gonna be full, go start a
training camp. Everything's good.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
We should beat That's that's it. Did you hear me? Okay,
that's what that's it means. That means it stops with Bailey.
Any concern there in terms.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Of Von No, no, no, no, all good?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
That's it. Well, yeah, that's it for the career of
Devon Vley here in Denver, as the Broncos trade away
their former seventh round pick out of Utah yesterday.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Well, the new college football world where you're playing twenty six,
twenty seven, and twenty eight year olds, they turn into
basically third, fourth, fifth year vets. They get traded in
just their second year of pro football, which is the
case with Devon vleated what twenty seven year old.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
And this is something that we talked about yesterday as
we welcome you into a Thursday edition of the Morning
Sprint RAJ alongside the coach Mike Sanford, one day ahead
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(01:59):
we will go through the biggest stories in the NFL
with Kate J's NFL Notes, But we start with the
big trade. Devon Vley has been traded to the New
Orleans Saints for a twenty twenty sixth fourth round pick
and a seventh round pick, So they essentially turn a
guy who's selected in the seventh into that very same
(02:19):
selection and what could amount to be like pick one
hundred next year. If New Orleans is gonna suck as
bad as we think they're going to, now, I'm gonna
miss Devon Vley. Yeah, great, great, dude, great pick six'
five two. Ten he's the Prototypical Sean payton wide. Receiver
(02:41):
it did feel, though where are you gonna get your touches?
NOW i asked you this question, yesterday, coach when we
are kind of going over our fifty three man. Roster
it's something that we actually didn't get to on air.
Yesterday when you AND i were talking across the, TABLE i,
went would you Trade vley for a? Sixth and you
looked at. Me you, WENT i, said would you trade
him for a? Fifth and you went AND i, said
(03:03):
how about a? Fourth and then this Weird Jim carrey
grinchy smile started to creep its way across your. Face
forgot about that.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Conversation it just wasn't part of, our part of our
yesterday because if it would have been on, air would
have done that rep.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yesterday With Victor.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Olafson so this glitchy smile creeps. Here they're just gonna
have to Trust ra and the fourth round.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Pick is what it ends up. Being it will essentially
be a top one hundred.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Pick that was a really good off. Air our best
radio is off, Air.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Oh it sure. Is it's so. Good you guys miss
a hell of a show five minutes in between, segments
and it's because we actually we kind of like each.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
OTHER i, mean you, know fun. Talking we don't hate
each other's, guts which is.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Good so pick number one hundred last, Year luke, McCaffrey good.
Player Troy franklin was selected at one oh, two really
good player a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Ago, okay SO i heard a couple of things speaking
Of Troy franklin.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And starry McCaffrey two years ago in the Same.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Franklin, Yeah i've heard a lot about the success Of
Troy franklin is the reason That Devon veley is being
shipped off and got great value back for return on.
INVESTMENT i, mean you're not fleecing The, Saints but you
want to talk about just a great business. Operation he
drafted the guy in a, seventh he plays as a,
(04:29):
rookie and you turn him around for a fourth and
a seventh just a mirror what sixteen months later after the.
Draft that's really really good.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Business do you know who The broncos selected with pick
one hundred and one last year this past? Draft?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Uh the one it's a. Guy Uh, no it's. NOT
i was gonna say it's it's Not Pat.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Bryant, No Pat bryant was selected in that same third.
Round But bryant was selected to close was THE. U
it was like the Resolution. JAKE i think it was
like a compensatory pick ye that they. Got So Savion
jones was selected at one oh. One The broncos have
fared well on the last two. Drafts, again we don't
(05:11):
really know What Savion jones is going to, be but
from what we've seen in camp from Both savion and Q,
as you're like young additions to uh to to the.
Defense AND i haven't even Mentioned JOHN. A barron being
an elite pick with the first round there the early
returns have been, good but With savion And Troy franklin
(05:32):
over the last two years like, that that pick one
hundred is pretty good For.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Sean it's a pretty juicy pick right there for any
team if you handle it. Correctly so back to, this
This Troy franklin arrow up potentially leading to the lack
of need or even the void of potential touches there
would be For Devon. VELEY i don't think It's Troy,
franklin they play a different. POSITION i think It's.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Paber.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Oh it is Very Vest, bryant the rapid ascent Of Pat,
bryant and this is WHAT i go back to we
all threw shade At Pat bryant for his forty time
what on Draft, day just about everybody to a certain,
Extent like, REALLY i Think illinois wide receiver that runs
in the four. Sixes, Really here's what changed it for.
(06:22):
Me it wasn't the four catch seven was at seventy
yard second game of the preseason performance where he was
just catching.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Everything he's just, big he's.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Physical what did it for me was when we were
doing our broadcast a mere two three weeks ago from,
that what is?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
It what side were we? On the southeast on the south, Side,
yes southeast is south way more, correct the south east
side of The Dove Valley. Complex And i'm looking over
Les garment out TODAY i.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Did i'm looking at the southwest side at a weird
at a strange, angle And i'm looking over at one
on ones in the red Zone broncos On broncos crime,
Happening AND i saw somebody create major separation on a red.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Zone route And i'm, like who is? That, oh That's Pat.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Bryan that was, Filthy my, gosh can that guy? Transition
and Then i'm, like, wait who is that Against pats er?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Ten the.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Second, oh and you know what happens when you're a
coach and you go back and you talk about that one.
Rep there's people that were on the field, saying, hey
did you see? What do you see What Pat bryant
did TO ps two in the red?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Zone that's not.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
NORMAL i would even go to the point of, saying
you know what that felt? Like and looked like it
looked and felt a little bit like Aman Ross Saint,
brown same profile for six. Forty guy plays explosively off
of his, insteps creates, separation awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Ability to drive at the at the route break.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Point and it just became completely evident you have the
type there to play your big, slot your, why or Your,
zebra depending on if it's ten or eleven. Personnel there's
almost some really good interchangeable redundancy in a positive way
Between Evan, ingram who is a basically a glorified slot
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receiver and Now Pat. Bryant that those two guys can be.
Interchangeable you didn't Need Devon, valley which is. CRAZY i
would never have said that when this thing, started and
there was a nice point in time in training camp
where you started seeing Von vley come into his own
you know, what this opens up this opportunity for the
other big body type that you AND i have loved
(08:40):
the whole training. Camp, SEE i don't know if it.
Does i'm talking about on practice squad because then it's
the next man. Up okay that you have that body.
Type we're talking About Jaquen. DAVIS i don't Think Joaquin
davis might have even had a chance to make practice
squad to let alone have a chance to potentially play
into playing time at some point in the event that
there is an, injury.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Especially with how much we've Seen Courtney jackson And Drewan
newton factor in on special teams and, returns like there
may be spots for those two guys because we've seen
them utilized more wrong To jackson looked pretty.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Sweet that's one of the one of the kind of
glossed over storylines from. Preseason Game number two is number eighty,
nine the undrafted free agent out Of Arkansas state looked
like a he looked like a football.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Player.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Man it's something about eighty nine and The broncos in
training camp that just it always that number always.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Pops, in nice solid. Number it's who was?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
It last year Was brandon who is that it was
the receiver that it Caught Johnson. Johnson, Yeah Brandon. Johnson
he got a couple of touchdowns at the end of
the twenty two to twenty three, season and then last
year in training camp he did he did some good stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Too can we Get Evan ingram out of number? One?
Now Put ingram back in number? Seventeen oh, yeah it's.
Right give number one to somebody.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
ELSE i think he wants. One maybe give one TO. R. J.
Harvey get R. J harvey out of four? Seven weren't
there SOME i thought there were some jersey.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Changes were? There?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Maybe maybe it's just. Speculative it's Get harvey out of.
Thirty SO i love the number thirty. SEVEN i just
don't love it for a football, player for an offensive football.
Player Rodney harrison looked great in thirty. Seven all, right
this is gonna get. Weird Chris drury is a hockey,
player thirty seven? Elite all, Right i'm gonna get real weird.
Here have you ever in your just your everyday talk
(10:21):
when you speak in, hyperbole have you ever just had
a random number that you use for just about everything
in a hyperbolic? Sense so, like, yeah it's like it's
like ninety seven miles away from, here or LIKE i
have like ninety seven thousand issues THAT i need to deal.
With ninety seven is a good.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
One you know what my dad has been SINCE i
was a child is thirty. Seven why he just uses
thirty seven for, EVERYTHING i don't. Know he's a thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Guy thirty seven miles away doesn't feel like it's.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
So but you add like you can add thousand to thirty,
seven you can add. Million there's a lot of different
ways that you can really conjure up thirty. Seven like
my dad's like one of those, guys like he's, hungry you,
know Old Coach saffer.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Thirty seven dogs.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Today, yes he's like he's driving the cars LIKE i
could eat thirty seven double doubles right.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Now i'll take it real like you. Uh, Yeah So
broncos make the big Trade Devon veley to The New
Orleans saints free shot fourth in a Seventh, YEAH i
WAS i, TOO i WAS. I i was not Expecting
denver to make really any more roster moves outside of
like maybe someone gets cut cut days on the twenty,
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SIXTH i believe twenty fifth or twenty. Six one of
those two, days maybe somebody gets cut twenty, six thank YOU.
kJ maybe somebody gets chopped off from a team that's
an inside linebacker and you need a little bit more depth,
there you need another veteran just because Of i'm uneasy
about the. INJURIES i thought that was like the only
thing that they may have done moving. FORWARD i kind
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of thought we knew the fifty three made fifty three man.
Roster BUT i also don't believe that moving on from
From velay is about the wide receiver room and holding a.
SPOT i do think it's about they're not completely sold
on who their running backs are right now that you
might hold another spot for a, back or they're hoping
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that someone gets cut and they, go that's our. Player,
now who's the discussion between running back? Wise we'll get into.
It on the other, side that's Coach Mike. Sanford three oh,
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Speaker 5 (13:13):
Myself when you did that read and you have your
stack of, PAPERS nfl notes is in. There you've got
all your different promotional readings looking for the right. One
but you were just you're such a journal like you
can tell you went to school to be a. Journalist
When BIG j, Journal Big jay, journal which when you
grab all the stack of papers and you just neatly
snap them against the against the table and then organize,
(13:36):
them it has the sound of. Journalists have you heard
of the term like a vocal stem or an audio, stem.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Like as in. Stimulation, yeah, okay so it's something that
kind of goes around media now now and. Again it's
a it's like a very fondly held memory of something
that you grew up watching or listening. To it's making
its way on like and then one of my and
(14:05):
typically what it is it's it comes from like a you,
know it's A SpongeBob quote that is just always stuck
in your head from the time you were like seven years,
old and it just makes you feel some sort of.
Way one of my audio stems is that who's it?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
FROM i don't, know some some sports radio guy or sports.
Center it's very Sports it's Very Sports center Is it's.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
VERY i Think Van pelt is a is he a?
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Gathering you, know Eyes in And Neil everett would do
it all the. Time they have the they have the
the paper strewn across their desk and then you hear
a little bit of a.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Shuffle it's one of my. Favorite i'll NEVER i will
never get over. It so if you guys hear that a,
lot it's not for, you it's for. ME i like it.
TOO i like my little radio reach.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Around all, right we're talking about The at least you
have the common Courtesy rush film metal jacket.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Reference My broncos fifty three man. Rosters we're talking about
what moving on From Devon vley actually. Means does it
mean that you're going to to bring in another wide? Receiver,
no unless a big name gets cut and you can
make it, happen it's probably not gonna. Happen So i'm
looking immediately to running Back, Dobbins, Harvey locklock.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
McLaughlin i Think. Lock i'm, like he's, locked. Dude Sean
pay loves that. Guy he should man loves that he's
The he's the best. Story julia McLaughlin is a lock
to make this.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Team he's been a lock all training. Camp so many
people talking about, like Oh julia might be on the.
Outside look at shut.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Up didn't we feel Like devon was a? Lock AND
i know trading doesn't Necessarily Could julia ever be?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Freighted? Sure, dude If i'm a team that is, despinately does.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
He slightly fit into that same category of divine really?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Good but you might have gotten? Better clearly you got
better in our J, Harvey.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
But did you did you maybe get similar to slightly
better In Tyler. Badet they're kind of the, same, bigger
and he's a better third down pass. Protector So it'slin
is just more of a scat guy and he's more
dangerous in the passing.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Game he is more dangerous in space Than. TYLER i
think he. Is and how many times have we seen
this first team offense during training camp work on quick,
checkdowns bubble screens at just finding a way to get
the ball out Of bo's hands, quickly and you need
running back to be able to do. That it's not
only gonna Be Marvin mimms behind the line of. Scrimmage
it's certainly gonna be a lot of looks at the running.
(16:51):
Back SO I i Think julil McLaughlin has always been
a lock to make this. Team now it's a difference
when you bring, up, oh could like le will be
a possibility for. Trade, yeah he could, Be but that
doesn't take away me thinking That Devon vley was a
lock to make The broncos. Roster just because he was
traded does not mean he was. Cut, right there's a
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vast difference between the. TWO i saw a lot of
people going after On, twitter you, know you, know obviously
it's the, uh the receipt police going after people being
like there's no Way Devon veley doesn't make this. Team
he wasn't.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Cut my Pal Benjamin albright's been just wearing. Ros he
didn't say that he wasn't potentially a, trade, right it's vastly.
Different he said he's not getting, Cut so sure it Could.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Jalil get traded to a team that needs a running.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Back, Yes jeelil is not getting. Cut you heard it here.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
FIRST i mean that's my read on. IT i agree with,
you he's getting. CUT i agree with your.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Read and you know, What jelil has also currently AND
i guess the same could be argued For Tyler beiday
And Blake. Watson but undrafted free agent man with experience
cost controlled to the nth, degree that's a really valuable
thing for a.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Roster, also if you told me today, that, like you,
know who's a running back needy team right?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Now that position outside of the like the very top
five six guys in the, league and it just seems
like there's a bunch of JUST i think a lot
of teams are somewhat running back. Needy, CLEVELAND i don't.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Know you go back To New, orleansisco go To New
orleans to, say, hey, fellas like you really trust thirty
year Old dalvinkmara to stay Healthy San francisco wouldn't be
a bad. One how about you give us a Fifth
like if someone told me that a fifth rounder was
on the table For julil mclough WHEN i trade him. Today,
YEAH i love the, PLAYER i think he should be
on the. Team but you guys know, Me i'm mister draft,
(18:50):
pick and it's all about value with undrafted, players whether
it's value on the field or turning an undrafted player
or any pick into something that can help you down the.
Road we're at this point right with The broncos being
done with the. Rebuild they're done with the. Rebuild we
know that except FOR i don't picks, four, five, six
and seven.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Years are you done with the? Rebuild it like the weapon,
position just weapons on.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Off being done with the rebuild does not mean that
you trade away all of your.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Picks, No i'm, saying are you done like the? Rebuild
if you took this team from two thousand and twenty
to twenty.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Twenty, three which was just, Bad.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
You've gotten better in the offensive, Line you've gotten way
better in the.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Defense.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Everywhere the defensive rebuild to, me feels done outside of
just making good business decisions and moving on from guys
that are potentially up for big contracts that you just
don't want to Pay VISA vi Possibly John Franklin. Myers,
offensively the rebuild doesn't feel done in terms of WHAT
i really Believe Sean payton's gonna want to do with
(19:58):
regards to the passing game threat a real bona fide
scary human. Being, SURE i will give you, that but
that's that's really a one player as it pertains to
The velay. Trade and then, this you, know, hypothetical someone
Wants julia. McLoughlin here's a fifth rounder or a late
again late fourth rounder who that heck knows what could
(20:19):
actually Happen, Like julia was used not as much As
vle last, year but he was used positively in a
running back room that was crap last. Season if someone
wants to trade you a, fifth, forum you package a
fourth and a fifth and you move up higher in
round three if you see a guy that you really,
like that that's what all of this turns. Into so,
yeah if someone wants to give me a valuable pick
(20:41):
For julia, mcloffin, YES i trade it. Today it doesn't
mean THAT i don't think he's good enough to be
on this, team BECAUSE i very much.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Do so who's the competition right?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Now for WHAT i guess De Vaughan valay's roster spot
if we believe it might be at the running back.
Position who is the competition really.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Between Estimate watson Mid?
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Day so you've invested In estime because he's a draft,
pick fifth round draft.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Pick but that's a draft pick you've invested in you could.
Do you have to throw in the fullbacks as running
backs as.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Well you got too injured full Back Body. Tape burton's
gonna miss four games ON I. R so do you
even do you hold a roster spot for a fullback?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Here can you get through four games without bringing a
full back onto the? Roster you did bring a full back?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
On?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Well you do Like Adam? Prentiss is you? Know is
he A colorado? NATIVE i don't know nothing about full
Back Adam. Prentiss my brain only has so much space in.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
It here's A csu Ram okay transferred To South. Carolina
So i'll tell you, what, man he's got the the,
ultimate the ultimate two for in college football.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Mascots he was A ram and then a game. Cop,
Yeah oh my, GOD i love. That it's pretty. Good
better if he was like a. Cat, nah see Where i'm?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Going, NO i, DON'T i, know very sophomoric of. You
if you're if you know you're Getting Michael burton back
in week?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Five can't you get through four weeks with having like
one of your tight ends Like Lucas kroll going and
play the seven snaps a game at the very most
that a fullback is going to take in this, all we,
Said Nate adkins is banged up? Too how how do
we as? Well how long is?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
It?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Four four? Games? Geez what?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Happened did anything released on exactly what those injuries?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Were is that?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
It did you see anything in the right in the
preseason games or at?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Practice? Uh Nate adkins underwent ankle. Surgery that's not a
tight rope surgery to a high ankle. Spring do you
know what that? Is?
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah the tyro you know is the first program or
franchise that was doing there that were doing tight ropes
to get players back off high. Ankles high ankles used
to be sometimes season ending. Injuries they're they're almost a.
Fracture they're basically just a mechanism short of being a
full whatever tibby IF i don't know my leg buns.
(23:18):
Fracture So nick saban had was a Doctor, andrews the
big time doctor out Of, alabama the. Surgeon he had
this procedure that was revolutionary at the. Time and these
guys would get back from high ankle sprains in like three.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Weeks used to be like a four month. Injury pretty.
Cool can't you use one of those tight ends to
step in for a physical enough instead of holding a
roster spot For Adam. Prentiss croll's not physical.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Enough from What i've, Seen, LOANER i Don't loaner is
probably gonna be a practice squad.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Guy sean didn't speak very highly Of loaner the other
day two days, ago When shan was talking about, him
he was, like we we have a long road ahead of.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Us it's not it's not. Great there's he's barely played.
FOOTBALL i understand, that but he was he was drafted
to play. Football he wasn't pulled on as an undrafted free.
Agent he just doesn't you know. What you, know what's
weird about. Him he doesn't look like a player that
needs seasoning in the game of. Football you, know what
(24:24):
he looks. Like he looks like a football player that's
just not very. Good it doesn't have any elite. Trade
that's What i've seen it at training camp.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Practice this Is Sean payton On Caleb.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
LONER i would say a little, bit a little, bit
but if we gotta get, going you, know we gotta get.
Going BUT i would say a little, bit you, know
just overall his football, knowledge.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
We gotta get. Going it's a lot of little bits.
There there's there's not a lot of time for you
to show me. Something we gotta get. Going but if
we gotta get, going we do have to get. Going,
CALEB i don't have time for. YOU i will leave
you in the. Dust little.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Duckling he's not the guy get road before a. Camera
he runs you over man. Everybody just a, great, great
great question here from From Eric. Nelson could estimate convert
to being in a fullback you.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Want to make the?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Team That's it's like it's like the it's like The
Adam silver better Learn chinese buddy. Meme like you look
at odd your estimate right now and you, say, Hey,
bud better learn, fullback, buddy because there's nothing that oddric
estimate does right now as a tailback that's been on
display that you'd, say that's that's even plus the plus
side of AN.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
NFL i stopped thinking about. Him he's.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Done you better like start eating a, lot just stop
by and get late night taco bell every night and
become a full back and run through another man's.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Face do you hold that off that spot for another
man on the offensive, line just knowing that eventually an
injury is gonna come back and kill you because they've
been largely healthy for two full.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Years so you're Keeping Paul Cheski pert And Forsyth crumb
and You're crumb is like a swing practice squad activation
player last year crumb, yep because now you lost Guard,
dulo which was a big.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Loss.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
GUARDULOS i didn't see the vision in year one Of.
GUARDJULO i saw the vision in year. Two and he
was fighting some injuries last year in training. Camp but
his body looked bad last. Year now he looks he
looks like a.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Dude your offensive Lineman, Forsyth Paul, Chewsky, Crumb, pert and then, Mclinchy,
Minors Wattenberg powers. Bowls those are your your kind of.
Locks do you hold a spot For Will, sherman do
you hold a spot For? Throckmorton just hoping To god
(26:52):
that you stay healthy yet. Again and it hasn't been
the healthiest like training camp for the offensive line. EITHER
i haven't felt like no one's gone down with. Injury
but the McGlinchey thing at the, beginning it, was it was. Alarming,
yeah it's it.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Was it was a it was a reality check Of,
hey things happen to the most important position group in.
Football things do, happen and you do lose those. Players it's, funny, LIKE, i,
man you take those guys for. Granted i'm going through
it right. Now i'm so incredibly blessed with a great
group of of of offensive linemen myself very similar To
(27:27):
Sean payton and His broncos offensive.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Line.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Man you you just can't take those dudes for, granted
because there there are so many teams in pro football
and college, game high, school all levels of football that
would die to have a, solidified healthy group of offensive
linemen that are a true starting. Five and the thing
you got it with The. Broncos, now do you feel
good about your top? Seven like you've already Seen Alex
Paul chessky And Matthew pert play in significant minutes on this,
(27:54):
team and the drop, up the drop off wasn't wasn't
there at, all.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Malays campbell smacked Around Matt pert a little during that
joint practice on That.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Thursday that was just old man's. Strength that was just,
like get over, here that's my.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Bike what give me that pot? Pa do you hold
a spot for an inside linebacker if someone gets? CUT
i don't love the quality.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
There outside Of Lavelle, Bailey Justice, ornat and then your
two starters And drake Green Lawn Alex, singleton nobody else
has even flashed from a special team's.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Perspective sanders on ir for at least four. Games what's
his what's his first? Name? Drew? Oh, jeez, YEAH i
was thinking of undrafted free? Agents, sorry, uh in your
practice squad right? NOW i don't. Know it's a it's a,
basically it's an. Unknown SO.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I don't know he's The utah. LINEBACKER i think he
might have some special teams. Value he just he's looked
overmatched in training camp. Practice he wears like jersey forty,
ONE i believe.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Forty forty three something like.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
That there's a, couple there's a couple of just they
they look like they look like run of the mill college.
Linebackers that group after really After Lavelle, Bailey insternad.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
That might be it that that might be the spot
that you hold out. On is that if someone becomes
available from. That from an inside linebacking, perspective you, go
death isn't. Great that's why we traded Away, vailey not
because we want to bring in another wide receiver or
because Like Tyler badat has to be on this. Team it's,
because oh, god what happens If Drake greenlaw misses six
(29:29):
games And Alex singleton, misses you, know three of those
six games at the very same. Time then we get
murdered between the. Tackles then what happens With James cook
in the first round last year happens again because we
have no one who can stop the. Run that might
be the, spot that might be the big brain operation
here from a roster construction, standpoint is that you move
(29:51):
on From Devon vailey because you're hoping that an inside
linebacker becomes available five days from right. NOW i just
don't know who the heck that's gonna.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Be Drew sanders is closer THAN i THINK i assumed
he would be from WHAT i from What i'm, hearing
which is. Good that's a that's a pop of good.
Depth and now the group with so he got, hurt
what three weeks ago it? WAS i thought it was
like the first week of training.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Camp let's let's call it three weeks and that is
a that's a six week injury. Probably so what he
misses those four games ON ir that are demanded and
he comes back week, five that makes me feel a
little bit. Better So i'd rather take ON i would
rather take on a cut inside linebacker that's a veteran
(30:40):
than hold the spot For Audric estime Or Tyler. Bidet
doesn't do anything to. Me, yeah So Drew, sanders it
was exactly a month.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Ago that Was july twenty. Six so, YEAH i just
essentially four weeks.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
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That that's rat poison right, THERE kJ is trying to
hit me with rat. Poison you're not your first your, LAST.
kJ you know.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
THAT i do, know.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Dude please give credit TO uh a recent state champion
out Of, california new head coach of The Pine Creek,
Eagles Trevor.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
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Speaker 5 (33:12):
Bowl Regius, Jesuit Big Time, quarterback tons of scholarship Offers
Rubley Luke rubley taking On Dave logan and The. Boys Max,
vedica the quarterback From, creeks defending state, champion.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Committed To Louisiana. Tech it's gonna be a it's gonna
be a good. One Now here's coach is just talking
up all of his competition right. Now he's throwing that
rat poison at the other competition right, now is what he's.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Doing hey, man there's an acronym man for our football
team right. Now A Ds ain't done squat squat stuff Stuff,
shenanigans aint, Dune.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Shenanigans. Shuck, oh we've been Talking ain't, Done. Tyler there we,
Go thank you very, much ain't. Duncane we've been talking
a lot about The devon vlet. Trade, obviously it's the
big story from yesterday and going into today for The
broncos as we close up the preseason this. Week The
broncos have dominated fourth round picks dating back for the
(34:16):
last like seven. Years you want to go over this
list right. Now we've already talked About Savion, jones who
was a third round compensatory essentially a fourth round pick last.
Year depends how you want to look at. It it's
either super late third or super early fourth. Round Savion
jones early returns are really like the, player very versatile
on that defensive. Line coming out OF lsu twenty twenty,
(34:40):
four one hundred and second. Overall Troy franklin freshman year
rookie year rather was, eh it felt like a freshman.
Year it did feel like a freshman. Year case of
the drop. Season you know.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
What's good About Troy, franklin though he kind of put
on the freshman fifteen in a good.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Way after it means about fifteen.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Pounds it looks fifteen pounds heavier and more, muscular a
different type of freshman. Fifteen then Maybe raj your your
ex girlfriend from college that you you did indeed part
ways with when she put on said fifteen?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Pounds whoa getting that? From are we getting?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Close speaking of you, know natural and positive weight, Gain
we're getting close to The.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Oh yeah we. Are it could be any, day any
day between now and like a month from. Now oh,
MAN i.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Care i'm so. Excited, Man i'm so CAN I CAN
i come to the hospital or is that be?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Weird?
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Sure like during kind of up To, Caitlyn CAN i
come during? Them i'd prefer that you're not there During, Okay,
Right although you've.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Taken a snap or two man like in an emergency,
situation IF i know there's sure hands, There i've handled.
Pigskins if you will that have been been in adverse.
Conditions so if you godd the wife doesn't listen to the,
show yeah she, should does she? Should she would like
it all. Right they didn't have a fourth rounder in
(35:55):
twenty twenty, three but the closest they got was late
in the third eighty third overall in twenty twenty. Three
Cornerback Riley moss now not a fourth round. Pick but
if you're gonna utilize This saints pick as like essentially
pick number one, hundred THEN i can fudge my brain
to get down to pick eighty. Three in twenty twenty,
(36:16):
two you add back to back selections in the fourth.
Round damory mathis solid, player might not make the team this,
year probably deserves to make it in the, secondary but
that second airy unit is just way too deep right.
Now tomorrow mathis at one fifteen and then Ioma uazrique
swinging a. Miss Unfortunately Iowa state lost a year due
(36:39):
to the gambling. Suspension don't know if he'll make the
team this. Year twenty twenty one was an absolute home
run in the late third Round Quinn minors pick number ninety,
Eight Baron browning pick number one oh, five home, run
pretty good did not miss on those in twenty. Twenty
you missed great at All McTelvin agim at ninety. Five
(37:02):
who's that? Is he still in the. League albert Ogueybu
nam at pick number one eighteen in the fourth. Round
not Great McTelvin Nick Telvin ajeem maybe arguably an all
name just an all name team. Guy you missed. There
But albert oh at one eighteen another swing in a.
Miss you're just trying to find a way to connect
him With Drew locke and, like, hopefully, hey you guys
(37:24):
knew each other in, College like that means it'll. Work,
nope nightmare. There twenty nineteen home run pick seventy one
in the third. ROUND i can't really fudge that to
fourth because that's really truly middle of the third. Round Draymond,
jones solid third round. Pick twenty. Eighteen you Got Josie
jewel And Isaac yadam to SOLID nfl players Like Isaac.
(37:46):
Yadam does he make The saints this? Year if he
makes The saints and he plays as a, starter they
probably won't get a compensatory fourth round pick this.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Year it's not.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
BAD a couple of fourth round are still in the.
League from the twenty eighteen. Draft they've done pretty darn.
Well Isaac. Kadam His wikipedia looks like. Mine in. College
he just bounced all over the Place, Broncos.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Giants, Packers, Texans saints forty nine ers back To saints
just in.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
A mirror what six Years, yeah bounced all over the
place twenty sixteen late third, round essentially fourth, Round Justin
simmons out Of Boston. College the franchise has done very very,
well late third and early fourth very very. Well that's
(38:32):
the reason WHY i love this, thing, MAN i isn't it?
Amazing George peyton a couple of years ago felt like
he was inches away from being.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Canned it felt Like Sean payton was hired in order
to Fire George.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Peyton oh to dig the great he was the.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Undertaker the two takes That i've had that have not
come even remotely close to fruition with regards To Sean,
payton one. Vance joseph will be the perfect scapegoat if
it ever goes. Wrong he's already been fired by this
daying franchise as a head. Coach and would anybody be that?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Upset?
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Now what you would? Be BECAUSE i think his story
has been really a cool story and he is embraced
as really a part Of colorado sports. History he's a,
buff he's been At he had a renaissance of his
career from being fired as a head coach and coming
back as a decordinator and even overcoming a seventy point
melee In South.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Beach denver loves a good defensive, coordinator and if you
lean into that, ROLE i know he's not as like
long in the tooth As Wade phillips was when he
came here and starting to feel That broncos defense starting
to feel a little bit that way, though if you
dial into, that Like i'll eventually get another look at head.
Coach MAYBE i want, it MAYBE i, Don't but you
(39:54):
kind of dig into, That i'm gonna be the best
defensive coordinator in the league right, now AND i can chill.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
Him question why the heck Would Vance joseph want to.
Leave he's gonna take another bad job and event you're going.
AGAIN i, mean it's the hardest thing to get in
the position of offensive or defensive coordinator when you're actually
responsible for the performance of that, unit Which Joe lombardi
(40:21):
here is not responsible ultimately for the.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Unit he, is in name only an offensive.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Coordinator but the hardest thing to, get, man is to
get your personnel. Right when you got it, right you
gotta savor it because you have an opportunity to build
something almost to the to the extent of like The Steel,
curtain The Pittsburgh, steelers The Buddy Ryan, earraw like, you
The Orange, crush the The No Fly. Zone you have
those opportunities right in front of. You and if You're Vance,
(40:49):
joseph you're gonna continue to get paid. Handsomely you're doing just.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Fine so that thought process went To. Rye what was
the other?
Speaker 5 (40:56):
One it was That George peyton was going to be
the fall guy because he made the rust deal air,
quotes and it looked Like sean was game of throning
this situation around The Russell wilson narratives that that's that's
(41:18):
the Other peyton's, guy that's that's not my This peyton's.
Guy but, somehow some, way, man you know, What Sean
payton recognized that dude's pretty good at evaluating, talent that
dude can, draft that dude's really good in a really
in the second through seventh.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Round you Know what's so abundantly clear is that When
sean came here and again he it felt Like George
peyton was inches away from being kided because for the
until they win A Super, bowl you are shoveling dirt
on the. Corpse that is The Russell wilson. Contract always
(41:53):
you're you're trying to find a way to have grass
and flowers grow on top of. That so when someone walks,
by you don't see the, tombstone you just, go, oh
that's a that's a pretty. Meadow oh, crap what's buried underneath? It,
Right you're always going to do that until you find.
Success When sean came in, here it was so very
clear That sean was, LIKE i got the pro. Personnel
(42:14):
don't worry about. THAT i can handle the pro, personnel.
Right and that was the other. Thing IF i have
a guy who my WHO i want in the, DRAFT
i want out of, College i'm gonna tell you And
i'm gonna get. It there's no there is no. Conversation
it's my. Dude but if you look at the draft
picks That George peyton's, made, sure The Russell wilson contract
(42:35):
was a disaster and there's no getting a lot of
different abject, disaster.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
A lot of different arguments about, who who's, Who whose
hands bear the blood of The Russell wilson.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Contract his name's in the, contract he says it buck.
Stops where with the ownership, Group now it, does, Probably
BUT i think the ownership group was a little bit
too green to understand what was. Happening, well, sure, yeah
that guy's A Super bowl. Winner why.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Not it was a failed version Of Rick george and
see you making The Hill mary of hiring the only
guy that could drum up the excitement and the. Interest
it worked in the case OF ceu And Rick george
and of course Coach, prime it didn't work at. All in,
fact it was an absolute abject disaster With Russell wilson
(43:23):
and everything that he brings from a hype.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Perspective so at the end of the, day you gotta.
Perform you just. Didn't George payton's draft picks going back
to twenty twenty one when he overtook that, Room Patzertan, Quinn,
Miners Jonathan, Cooper Nick, Benito Marvin, Mims Drew, Sanders Bo,
Nicks Jade, Baron Pat, BRYANT. R. J, Harvey, Sadion, JONES H.
(43:46):
Robinson he went from being inches away from canned to
is this dude like a top THREE gm in the,
league top FIVE gm in the. League that's HOW i
feel right. Now and, yeah my my love and my
loyalty can be swayed by a very calm. Breeze it's
(44:07):
all in that, corner, now, Brother it's all in that.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Corner we all thought That Russell wilson was going to
be coming to The Denver metro and he would be
the chef that would be. Cooking what we learned Really
George peyton's he's the real, chef.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Maw iron chef of pounding. Drafts that dude has been.
Cooking three oh three five oh four oh nine two
five is where you can read us text elich e
L i c ch that's ELICH e L i T
h to three oh three five oh four oh nine two.
Five you can win a pair of season. Passes we're
giving away a winner at eleven.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
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