August 7, 2025 • 45 mins
0:00 - Sean Payton released the first depth chart of the year and guess what...all the rookies are last again! I'm shocked! This is my shocked face!
13:31 - The Jaguars listed Travis Hunter at both WR and CB on the depth chart. Looks like they actually wanna try playing him both ways!
30:58 - Sorry, Canada. Hockey is ours. We took it, according to Vic.
13:31 - The Jaguars listed Travis Hunter at both WR and CB on the depth chart. Looks like they actually wanna try playing him both ways!
30:58 - Sorry, Canada. Hockey is ours. We took it, according to Vic.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Mosher Lombardy and came on demand. Listen live
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Plenty of rules. One of them the depth chart has
to be released in a certain time.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Ye would you like to see the NFL get rid
of it?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
No?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
No, no, no, no no no, ye come on, no,
we just released the depth chart yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
All good.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I just didn't spend a lot of time on them. Well,
what's the purpose of doing you ask them? I mean,
I think for every game, I think it's important there's
a depth chart. It's a starting point. I just didn't
want to make a big deal over the rookies all
being at the end of the line and you guys
went into a tizzy. So they're all right, they're all
at the end of the line, and obviously that'll change.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
I didn't know that's where the no, no no came.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
No, that's what that's one year ago. Last year.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yeah, I did not realize that's where we got that
no no no. Although Sean does like to say some.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Way or goodman asking the question, and it's funny because
his response to that question can be applied today. You
know the depth chart that we went through earlier, All
the rookies are denoted last in the depth chart. There whatever,
whoever you are, John A. Baron, R. J. Harvey, your
last until your first.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Why do people get so hot and bothered about a
depth chart?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Why don't the BRONC Why don't these teams take these
depth charts seriously from the get goes?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well they do. I mean I think when I look
at the Broncos depth.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Chart, now that's not a serious depth chart. Well, I
mean it is, but you know what I mean, like, that's.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
But what's the purpose of doing it?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Message with this stuff?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, I I think, Look, people who get hot and
bothered about it, it's something to talk about. It's camp
gets very mundane. It's the same thing every single day
is said. And then maybe you get a nice little
nugget of truth from somebody on the podium. And I
liked what the players have had to say. I mean,
(02:07):
certainly the Courland Sutton contract and to Zach Allen that's
really cool, that's good, but it's mundane. So anytime you
get a depth chart, oh my god, let's break this
maw down. Well, it doesn't really matter. I care about
the depth chart in the week leading up to the
first game against the Tennessee Titans, Vick, That's what I care.
Who's doing what and by the way, and it's all
(02:30):
just has to do with the rookies. There's not one
other thing on that quote depth chart that surprises me
at all. Nothing.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You know, that's so funny you say that, And that's
the one thing that's missing from this camp. And when
I say missing, I don't like actually miss it. It's
just not there. There's no real competition.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean nothing.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Evan Ingram is the tight end. Drake Greenlaw was brought
in to be the starting inside landbacker. They got position
players that they brought in specific to fit those needs,
and there ain't changing. Nobody's changing there. Give me a
position battle that would surprise you.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Give me one the six wide receiver on.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Trent Srfield somehow got major snaps or something like that.
I guess that would surprise me. But Troy Franklin's doing
his thing. You've already got Sutton Mims in Veley doing
their thing. Pat Bryant was the third round or so,
he's sticking around. Yeah, maybe you've already.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Gave five guys locked up, right, there's five guys at
the wide receiver position. We're making his team so that
you give me one more, one.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
More surefield or games, they'll end up being on a
practice squad and want to want to be on the
active want to be on a practice squad. I guess VI.
The only surprise I would have, and it's not even
really a surprise, but the where Jaliel is listed in
the running back rotation? Is that fair as the second guy?
I mean ahead of estimate, ahead of the day. Obviously
(03:53):
Harvey is that guy. He's going to move up to
that spot. But that's where they have Jaliel right now,
as if to say, we like what he's doing and
he's a different back than all the other backs.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
What do you think the Broncos coaching staff is gonna
be focused on on Saturday Night?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
What do you think Sean Payton wants to see out
of this game? Is there any decisions gonna be made?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I've said it all week. I said the focus should
be on the run game this entire preseason, establishing the
run game, and it's just hard to do because in
the preseason you know, the practice today could indicate a
lot of what they'll work on Saturday. Like sometimes these
practices and these joint sessions, they're more physical than the game.
(04:33):
Depends what we see. I think. I think they have
to establish a competent run game because last season at
times was incompetent.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Would you guys agree, yes, Oh, there's no doubt about it.
I mean, they couldn't. That's why bow Knicks. It's part
of the reason why bow Knicks had such a good
rookie year at the quarterback spot, yards wise and so on,
is because they threw the football a lot and it
wasn't all downfield shots. I mean that one. No, it's
(05:03):
checked down Charlie City. So you're talking about very efficient.
The reason bow Knix didn't take a lot of sexes
because he's not in the seventh step drop. He's a
ton of swing passes and screens and little dumps over
the middle, that sort of thing. Talking about a guy
who's standing back in the pocket waiting for the play
to develop and then going up top it. I mean
(05:25):
in look, we're watching highlights from last year, but you
when you're watching some of these highlights, what are you
seeing out of these quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I mean, listen, we've seen some pretty good quarterbacks in
the highlights.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Have been I mean, when you see these guys, these
guys are these guys are chucking it over the.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Second it's like, well, you said you finally watched Hard
Knocks last night after doing this dirty the night before.
But and Hard Knocks will if you're a Buffalo Bill's fan,
Hard Knocks manipulated you emotionally because they started the show
and then they showed the four Super Bowl losses from
the nineties against you know what I'm talking about. Then
(06:00):
they showed the Bills getting a house, but are losing
to the Chiefs last year in the playoffs. But then
they did an entire highlight package of Josh Allen just
teared up the league last year and winning that MVP.
And if you're a Bills fan, how do you feel
about that? You're like, the that's the lowest moments in
our franchise history.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
But look at Josh Gord, no doubt about it, and
he'll throw the ball all over the field, and he
did it in that first episode. But I'm looking for
more of that out of Bonnicks this year. Vick.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
See that in a preseason.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
No, no, whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Peyton has put in these new wrinkles in the offense,
We're not going to see that on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
What I'm saying is that if you establish a running game,
This gets back to Vick's point. If you establish a
running game, it is going to open up more of
the damn field for number ten and he can, I think,
be even better. And it may not even work Saturday night.
They may run the ball and not gain anything. But
you have to start somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You have to just it's got to be molded into
that line and back field, how to run the ball,
where to run it? I mean, what kind of run
game do you want to see? What do you guys
want to see?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I just want to see anything productive, because I who
goes outside anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
You know, it's funny you say that, because I've read
this whole story about you can't break anything outside in
the NFL, the guys are too fast.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Their lateral movement nowadays, laterally guys fly. The ability to
get off blocks and run laterally is the best it's
ever been.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Defenses now are all like contained, contain, containing, contain, Like
vance Joseph was saying, what's going to make the Broncos
defense truly great? Is that consistency and not giving up
any of those big plays, like keeping those plays you
know contained.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
The biggest difference between the National Football League and every
other level of football is this. When you go watch
a high school game, are you in a college game?
You'll see that play where I don't know how you
get it to them, but the quarterback will pitch it
out to the tailback, maybe an option, maybe an outside handoff, whatever,
and then that runner will beat everybody to the corner
(08:05):
and gain thirty yards. How often do you see that
in the National So rare, so freaking fast?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Mad Max mad Max Well who got injured for the Bills,
but the dude ran a four to two at the combine?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy stupid. Hey are you talking about
the cornerback? Right? Yeah? Hey, you brought up that somebody
predicted the Broncos will get the twelve wins, and I
know where it came from. And I will say this
the USA today. I don't know any publication that's higher
on the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
They simulated every seventy two regular season games.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I don't know that. I don't know that anybody is
more high on the Broncos than calling coward. He loves
because he's Payne. But the USA today in terms of
love the scriptwriters rags, they love these guys.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
They love Dion two, they're always and artistles that see you.
But they they have the Broncos. They they are only
two teams that have more wins the Broncos, according to
the USA today, and that's the Ravens and the Bills.
They have the Broncos winning twelve games and winning the
AFC West. They have them going with twelve and five
and winning the AFC West, although they have the Chiefs
(09:19):
at eleven and six, and they said that the two
games the Broncos and the Chiefs play this season are
probably the winners of those games are going to decide
who wins the AFC West. And you know what I
mean that game where the Chiefs come here in the
first game, the Chiefs come to Denver, but the Chiefs
have a bye the week before, so they have two
weeks to prepare for the for the Bronx. And then
(09:39):
their last game is the Christmas Night game in Kansas City,
which is gonna have all the hype in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And I don't like that both of those KC games
are so late in the season.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, yeah, you'd prefer one early.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Like get mixed up a little bit. Okay, only because
when they're that close together, like if a player is
injured and misses both. Right, Yeah, you know, I wish
I wish one was earlier in the year, but it
could work that way.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It could work that way in your favor too, yus,
You don't know. I think that twelve wins. I was looking.
I was looking at the Power Rankings as well, and
that comes from Nate Adams. And I think Nate Adams
is a pretty good rider. I think he's a pretty
good football guy. Or excuse me, Nate Adams, Nate Davis.
I think he's a pretty a football guy. He has
(10:22):
the Denver Broncos currently in Power Rankings eighth.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yeah, it's great. National Football saw ESPN ranked the top
ten offensive players at each position. The Bronx don't have
a single player.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But it's because of their defense, the seventh overall defense.
And you know last season is going to be even
better this year. And I think that people recognize how
good that d is. He's got him ahead and last
year they were thirteenth going into the end of the season.
He's got him ahead of the Detroit Lions. Of all teams,
he's got him ahead of Pittsburgh with Aaron And that's
(10:56):
rightfully so Niners, Cardinals, Box, Well, he's he's got the
Chargers at fifteen.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, USA predicted the Chargers to win nine games.
They were like, they just don't have that special talent
on offensive defense. And it's not named Herbert, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Well, but the name Herbert's pretty damn good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Hey, yesterday we reported how the NFL is banning smelling salts,
which is not entirely true enough an that they're just
not going to pay for them anymore. So if a
player wants to show up at the game with a
pocket full of smelling salts, they can. They can call
Moser Mosuer. You have a case at home, right, But
isn't that crazy? Like, hey, you we we're not gonna
do it. But if you want to bring your own liability, liability, man,
(11:39):
is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, it's all about appearance.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
If an NFL team is handing some dude who's can
cust smelling salts, they're liable. If that dude brings his
own salts to the game. It's like, I mean, I
guess it's like handing out Copenhagen. If you bring your own.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Let me be honest about that.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Is some c y a nonsense.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It It kind of is. But if they were trying
to ban smelling salts, well they said all club personnel
as well. It's really weird. But if they were trying
to ban them, like ban them, ban them period. The
amount of black market contra banned smelling salts inside of
a locker room and on the sideline it and then
and then what are you gonna do? Get investigators? Well,
who who stuck the smelling salts on to the sideline
(12:23):
and all that? Because players are not gonna give them up.
But it's I promise you they're not going to give
them up.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Yeah I know, I know, and I'm sure they're gonna
bring them.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
George ke, George Kittle. If George Kittle wants to bring
his own, you know, palette of smelling salts for the sideline,
he can still do it. But it's just the league
ain't paying for it.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Bo Nix brings his own smelling salt to the game,
But then Sean Payton uses. It is that illegal because it's.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Not you know what I mean, Like, it's just dumb.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yes, it's just weird.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I understand what they jelly do. Yeah, they're doing a cya.
They don't want they don't want guys. You know, concussion
protocol to be sniffing salt. But what if a guy
gets banged up and he says, me as salt, but
it was brought to the sideline. Look, I guess the
leak can always say it wasn't us. It wasn't us.
You can't sue.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Us the Newshaw when it comes to this stuff. But
I get it. It's I mean, it's millions of dollars
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Speaker 2 (13:46):
Vic, I know that your banned on the text line.
Has that been revisited yet? As the boss obvious?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Is somebody gonna talk about? Is somebody talking to Shock Togevin?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
This breaking news is that Vick is beck on the
text line. I am no, you're not. I'm lying, was
lying before.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
You Still, I don't have any I do. I mean,
it's not really breaking.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Nelly, Nelly, you you should be Nelly. Can you send
that message please and get me back on the text line?
Speaker 6 (14:15):
I think I think Boss probably knows what's up.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Ask him. Then you're my go between. I don't talk
to him.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You do.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I will say this, you.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Will send him a raven vic perfect.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You are on the Twitch though, and I've noticed lately.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
If you want to see what Moser's face, well, I
guess most people know what your face looks like. Yeah,
you've been doing TV man. When'd you leave us from radio?
How long you been doing the TV thing?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Now twenty eighteen, but I was doing TV stuff before that,
I mean just a lot. But I will say this.
Vic sees the twitch feed and it's always kind of
been this way. But I don't know. Maybe it's the
time of year, maybe it's the heat. It's like ninety
five degrees yesterday. People are getting a little mos mos,
(14:59):
people getting litt You know what can happen either today
or tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You know what can happen. Hottest day in the history
of this city. Really, you know what The hottest temperature
in this in the history of Denver, Colorado is one
O five one o five, and we could break that
either today or tomorrow. At least one of the local
news we hit one o six brother tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's pretty hot.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I don't even want to anyway, my bad starting to
think about that.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I was gonna say this. Did you guys see the
comments of DeVante Adams wide receiver for the Losses. Yeah,
he's not sure.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
He's not sure anybody can do what Travis is gonna
try to do. I just read an article about how
the Jags are handling Travis at practice. Man, that dude
puts in work. He puts in mad work to get
what he needs from the offensive and defensive side of
the balls, and especially like they have him doing everything
the Jags. He even came out and said, He's like,
(15:56):
they're trusting me with everything. They are putting a lot
on his shoulders. But yeah, Davante's like, I don't think
it's physically possible to do what Travis is going to
try to do this season with the Jacks. It's physically
impossible to play both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I was gonna explain that, but you just did a
nice job of it.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
My bad, It's all good.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, But he what he said makes a lot of
sense because it's basically the way I think is that
he's gonna have to choose one side and then you're
going to have to vic sprinkle him in a little
bit on the other side. I mean, this is this
is not college football. And while the Big twelve is
major college football and you got big dudes, why doubt.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Him before he even gives it a shot?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Man? And I don't want to doubt him because Travis
Hunter does nothing but play video games, watch film, hang
with his family, and play football. That's all he does
in life. I don't even know if he eats, but
physically the wear and tear against National Football League players,
and he and Vic DeVante Adams brought up, man, you
(16:58):
gotta tackle Derrick Henry. He's right about that. You gotta
tackle that guy. And that's that's the job ahead of you.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So he thinks, what that he's not going to be
as good as indicated, or that he's going to rely
on one position solely.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
He's gonna have to pick one.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, he says if he tries to play both ways,
he says, the game will drop off on both sides
of the ball. And and he's going to get.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Hurt because find out he is slight. His body is
a pretty slight body. So we'll we'll see, we'll see
he's gonna get what do you think he'll see more
physicality on the defensive end of the offensive end?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Offensive? Right, because if you you press him at the line, right,
if he's because he's not the biggest guy, so you
smack you smack him as soon as he comes off
the line. You try to mess up the route, right.
But I mean, Travis doesn't shy away from contact. He
didn't it, see you, He's probably not gonna do it
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Here's what he said. There's just a lot of mileage, man,
And I don't know how. I'm not even concerned so
much if he can do it over the course of
a game or a season. It's more like, how long
is his career going to be if he's playing that
many steps, because all you're doing is doubling your risk
for injury one And I don't wish any of that
on him. I hope that he can play an injury
free season and go ball out. But I mean, it's
(18:16):
just the reality. The more you're on the field, I mean,
it's already a one injury guarantee. Is there a guy
in the NFLVIC that does not get injured?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
You're always going to have an injury of some sort.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah. Always.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah. You know who looks like he should never get
injured because I saw him talk. He was he was
talking about Chador with his shirt off yesterday, and I'm like,
that is just a as Miles Garrett, And I was like,
how does somebody that big ever gets hurt because he
he that he really likes him, he really Although I
have a quote that you find out tomorrow night. Here's
a quote VIC from the local CBS reporter there in Cleveland,
(18:54):
because all the talk is that, you know, Schador's getting
his start because everybody's banged up. And I'm, I'm it's crazy,
how excited I am to watch should replay the Cleveland Browns.
But here's the quote, Vick, and you tell me what
you think about this. Here's what this CBS reporter thinks
about yet about what's going on in Cleveland. He said.
The reporter said that Schadur has to have the greatest
(19:16):
preseason game in preseason football history to kind of change
the perception of the Browns coaches. That's good, cool, Carl,
That's a that's a fairly harsh statement. Where like the
point he was making is that Shador has looked better
in practice than Dylan Gabriel and some of these quarterbacks,
and the only thing that it has earned him is
(19:37):
more reps with the third and fourth string, like they're like, whatever,
he looks good, we don't care. Four string quarterback going
out there. Man, he's gonna have to look amazing. But
that puts pressure on Shadur, right then you're pressing the
whole game. If you're like, you have to be great
in a preseason game.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
That's very interesting that. I mean, if if the die
is already cast, what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, you know, I mean what why are they gone
through the motions? If the coaches already feel that, if
they're abundantly convinced that he's not going to be the guy,
what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Let me let me rewind you a little bit, because again,
you're on that coffee thing, aren't you. Man?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Unlimited coffee is the best. I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, because you're you are freaking out again today. It's
like you're smelling salted and coffeed. Rewind that. This local
CBS reporter said that Chador has to have the best
preseason game in history to do what to change.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
The coach's minds is basically what he said.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
But who right? Who did he say has looked the
best in camp? No?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
He said that Chadour has looked better than Dylan Gabriel
in camp. But it hasn't changed the amount of reps
that Shaduur has gotten. Okay, so it hasn't matter. That
hasn't matter how good Shador's look. He's just still playing
with the threes and fours.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
This is a very slippery slope for the Cleveland Browns,
for the coaching staff, for everybody. And I don't care
about Haslem and what his thoughts are. It's his team.
But the players know vic players know who can play
and who can't play. Players know who they can win
with and who they cannot win with, right sure, And
(21:14):
if you've got number twelve balling out, the questions will
go around the hey man, he man, why what are
we doing with this guy?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Why?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Why isn't it this? You see what I'm saying that
that's one way to screw up the internals of a
football right by not play the guys who are the
best players.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
The suggestion there in Cleveland from this reporter was that
maybe that's the only way Schadur changes his situation, is
that if he wins over the locker room with his play,
and then at that point it doesn't matter what the
coaches think, because you want over the team, and then
maybe that changes the view of the coaching stat Man,
(21:53):
I don't know. It's a bad situation. I mean, does
anybody think it's a good situation for shad there in
Cleveland or Cleveland in general? Man, I don't know what
they're doing with that that QB situation. None whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Well, if he has a great game tomorrow night, it
can only help his costs. If he sucks, then you know,
it's pretty much what they've been saying all along. I
don't care about Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I care about Shad.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I care about it. I care about Shador. I mean,
I look, do you think that there's pressure on him
to go on out and ball out and be crazy
and so on?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Right, he cannot just be it's solid, but I mean
throw four touchdowns or whatever nonsense that he wants.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
But I don't. I don't think that. I don't think
he's built that way. Maybe he feels a little bit
of it because he realizes he's not been getting the
snaps with the top two units in practice. Maybe he
does feel that way a little bit. But I will
say that he's always been a guy to me that
is confident in his own abilities, and he's confident, you know,
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in what he can do in any situation. So I
don't know that he feels all this coronal pressure. I
think he drives himself anyway. I mean, it's not like
he wasn't a driven quarterback at Coloradovic. He played through
a lot of pain and a lot of sacks and
a lot of a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, you know, I I visited with a bunch of
su alum last night after our tennis session, all passionate.
See you guys, man, they go to every game, the tailgate,
they go to every.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Hold on a second, you had a tennis session with
a bunch of su hanks.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
They were there, and I was talking to a bunch
of them, and one.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Thing, Wait, why aren't you Why aren't you making birdies?
Why are you playing tennis? What time? I did both yesterday?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
What happened to the pickleball obsession? I thought you were
gonna be the new king of the pick a ball court?
Was that last year.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Your brother, Your brother turned his pickleball court or his
basketball court into a pickleball No.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
He really plays pickleball there anymore?
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Okay, copy, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
If you play pickleball, you're either elderly or want to be.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Okay, So you're.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Talking for the athlete talk.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You're talking to.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
These seu anyway, and we're talking about Shador and Dion,
and you know they love it and they all agree
to got every single one of them completely aghast at
the retirement of those jerseys when they didn't a gain
not again ticked off about it. So it's not just us,
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it's not just all Boomer, it's the alumni. It's the
alumni that are mad about it, and not the most
recent alumni, the long time alumnia.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Shouldn't have happened. Yeah, it's still a mistake.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
It's yeah, it's yeah. But at the same time, about
making a mountain out of a mole hill, Like I
don't think right, You're like, this is this is dummy.
Probably should It.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
May be a mole hill to you, it's not a
mole hill to players who want to those national champions
and the national championship team layers who went to the
Big twelve.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Title, Why do they care? Vic, Why do you think
they care? So somebody who was successful at see You
thirty years ago, what do they care? Well, it was nepotism,
Yeah yeah, but because it's undeserving.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
That's why.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Okay, all right, yeah, I get it, but I don't
understand just it doesn't affect there, just like how you
don't care that the Rocky suck? Why do they care that?
Is get in love from the current SeeU administration or whatever?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Because it's not. It makes everything, uh a side show.
That's why it's it's it's it shouldn't have happened. And
and the more I think about it, how are we
four months removed?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah, they didn't see you. Just tweeted out a picture
of of the of the retirement right they had, they had,
Travis and chadur they have like it's up there somewhere
in Boulder. They have a special room with it when
they have the picture and the Yeah really yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wonder what the response was to that tweet.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I don't point it out, but yeah, I had this
conversation because I thought it was just us. I thought
it was sensitive media types being overly critical and I'll
boil you, but it's not. Man, it's the people who
went to school there, who paid bills there, who still
go to games there. They're equally.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Upsets.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Not the word like, what is this?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Do you think I think when you save a program?
I don't. I think it's silly as well. Vic, let
me be on record. I think it's silly as well.
Way too soon. Travis hunters a Heisman Trophy winner, so
I can see that. I can't see schidor that's me personally,
But I think it's also important to keep in mind
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that that program was saved. They probably would be, but
I can't guarantee you that CEU would be in the
Big twelve without coach Prime hunder percent. They look what's
going on with Oregon State and Washington State right now,
they are in no man's land. They are in They
are having an absolute abyss. So when you do that, Vic,
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you can kind of do what you want to do.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
As far as I'm not now, you can't. Everything you
said is fact. Prime saved the program. He changed the
program because the administration was going down a weird road
where they were talking about banning the damn game. And
he comes in and changes everything and injected a sense
of belonging, a spark, a fuel. That's all Prime. You
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hasn't mean his kid has his number retired the moment
he agree, that's just dumb.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Do you think there was any pushback at all when
they were like, hey, you know what we should do.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I don't think right now you can push back on
Prime because of what he's done.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Right because we haven't talked about CEU football in the
last thirty years in this city.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
We have a lot. I went to Alamo Bowl in
twenty twenty. But the point I'm trying to get at,
you had people, and we had him on the program.
You had a regent who was trying to get rid
of football, trying to get rid of the program and
turn fulsome field into a giant frog terrarium or something
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like that. I forget what it was, or maybe maybe
not that guy, but this guy genuinely was trying. He's
not a region anymore. He was trying to get rid
of football, which is it's it's almost inconceivable to think
about that. So I don't put all of this. I
don't know what it has to do with him either
making it with the Cleveland Browns or not. Do you
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think that Shador Sanders will have a National Football League career?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Vic, I don't know. From what I could see watching
him play, I always felt he was an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Then what's the hold up here? What's the that?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I mean, how can you be last on the depth
chart with the likes of Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I don't know, possible. I don't know. Here's what I
do know. The guy has talent. He's got arm talent,
head talent, leg tele he's got tileless toughness, He's got
all of that. Now, maybe he takes too many sacks.
Maybe he pats the football.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
The fifth round though, right because he took too many sacks.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I don't know. The guy's got talent. We'll see if
it comes through at the National Football League level. If
he was, if I owned a team, I'd want I'd
want to try.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
You were putting money on it, though, if you had
to bet the farm, well, I'm not. I mean whether
or not he'd have a team yere NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I would try to develop him. That's what I would do.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
You cannot tell me he's not better than Dylan Gabriel.
Give me a break.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah, yeah, And the reports are he's looked better than Gabriel,
and they and the coaching staff there in Cleveland's like,
we don't care, We're gonna keep doing That.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Might be when you have the team owner come out
last week and see, I didn't pick this guy. Ain't
my guy. I mean, that's all on on the GM. Weird.
I mean it's really weird. So who knows what's coming
down from upstairs? Who knows what what they're saying to
the coaching staff in terms of I mean, Vic, how
many owners get involved with with decisions like that, yes
(29:54):
or hint, well, Jerry certainly does because he's the GM.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
A lot of them though, I mean in Hard Knocks,
it was Pegla was on the sidelines talking to McDermott
right right, or he was talking to Sean like.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Doesla is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah, yeah, And he was on the sideline and he
was asking the coach like right, he was asking about
tight ends or different uh, different positions on the field,
just to be like, what's going on, Sean? What do
you think he was that wasn't giving you suggestions? He wasn't.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Terry was asking about the secondary. I think, okay, that's
what that's what set up the mad Max right, right,
they were talking about mad Max right. And then but
this was before he got hurt, before he did whatever.
Then the GM's out there talking to Thomas.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Ye and Thrmos. Thomas was given his opinion on everything.
Thurman was not shy. He was telling him everything that
he was Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, well that's an
all time great and they had Thurman addressed the team
and everything was fun.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
All right.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
We got to dive into some of the numbers from
this preseason game coming up. As the Broncos and Niners
go at it today and on Saturday night, we'll talk
about it next right here on Altitude Sports Moser Lombardi
and back at you here on this Thursday morning. Brett
Kine is he's got one more day off and then
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that's it for vacation for Brett.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
No, no, no, no, you don't. You don't get it
when Brett leaves, don't.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
We don't want to talk with that.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
We just say Brett's passed, he's left us.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
I tried to do that thing where I was gonna
convince people that something horrible that happened to Brett, but well, no,
not horrible.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Just saying, you know, he's left us, he's left the show.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
He's left us, gone to what's that? Hey Nelson's singing
that Michael Jackson song Gone too soon for Us? Please?
Where you do that?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Why don't I pull it up and let Michael do
the rendition?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Anyway? You know what?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Champs me boys, I'm looking at I'm looking at page
what page is this? Page five at the Denver Post
Sports section. And it's one thing when you're watching a
game of corse Field and you see a bunch of
Cubs fans. We're used to that, Cardinals fans, used to it,
Red Sox, Yankees. The hell's going on with all these
freaking Blue Jays fans that invaded yesterday?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Didn't realize we had that many among us.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Are there a lot of Canadians mos living in a
city he was going on run into a bunch of
this well French from up north.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I did see that former Colorado Avalanche John Mitchell was
it the game with his kids, so I'm sure he's
probably one of those wearing a Blue Jays. Yes, going
on with the He's a Toronto guy, let's get at her.
As I was leaving training camp the other day, I
saw a family of four wearing Blue Jays gear.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
So they just made a true See this is what
it's become now, this is what Coursefield's teams on the schedule.
Let's make a week of it in beautiful Denver, Colorado
and go to the game.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yeah yeah, I don't know, man, is there? I mean,
are we still ten years ago? We were one of
the cities that was getting the most influx of new
home right They're like people were moving to Denver in droves.
Are we still in that point where the Denver just
keeps growing each year it gets bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Now what a hold on his second?
Speaker 5 (33:01):
We got a lot of transplants, Yeah, but from Canadian transplants.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
No, that's what I'm saying. I mean, look, is a
great city, right, it ain't.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
It's it's big, It's okay. Canada only has one baseball
team now the Expos are long gone, so all they've
got is a Blue Jay. So I'm assuming that everybody
in Canada who likes baseball is a Blue Jays fan,
maybe like people from Vancouver or who knows, it's some
somebody Manitoba, the BC people. Maybe they've made have.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Their own baseball league, like they have their own like
the football league. They don't have like the Canadian Baseball league.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
They don't even have their own hockey league.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Okay, man, he's a dork.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Why am I dork? Hey? Man, I have a lot
of Canadian friends, and I'm sure they're listening to let me,
we took your sport and stole it and made it
our own. What are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
There we your sport, your national sport. Said it's ours now.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Although I am a little nervous about Team Canada house
and Team USA once, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
We took the sport and said we're taking over. We're
gonna take most of your teams. Your player's gonna come
play here. We've taken it.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Moser's probably gonna do about it. When's the last time
a Canadian team won the Cup? How many decades ago?
Was it Moses who was the goaltender of the team
that won the last Cup in Canada.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm gonna slam this whole cup of coffee so I
can keep up with you. It was Patrick Wall in
the ninety three Canadians three.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
As the last any last time any one of those
chuckleheads won the Cup?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
That's crazy, Kevin says. Blue Jays fans take over Safeguil
Field in Seattle too, when the Blue Jays play the
Mirrors Seattle. That's right, that's right down the road. Yeah,
what are they? What are these what are they doing
in Denver?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
How about this? Here's here's something on the text like
that I don't think is true. That said they said
that Denver's turning into San Diego, where everbody wants to
live in San Diego, but none of the professional sports teams.
But that's that.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
No, No, we may not respect it because it's been
hot this week. It's supposed to be one hundred today,
hundred record heat today. We may look at that and say,
oh my god. Denver remains, trust me, because most you
just felt it going to Italy. Denver remains. The summers
in Denver, I can't I can't think of any place better.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, but typically we get a lot of rain too
in the afternoon. I don't care you have been having
any of that. Now.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Colorado on the summer is the best place.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
I tell my wife all the time for vacation. Let's
not do it now, man, Yeah, I want to chill here.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
If you do it, do it in January February. Yet,
this is the best time that Colorado was amazing during
the summer.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I should I should just text Okay, Johnny Mitchell says, Yeah,
I went Monday and yes I had a Blue Jay's
Tea on See. I'm texting back. You're part of the problem,
So okay.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Tell Johnny this, Johnny, Say Johnny, how does it feed?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Let me know that we took on your sport.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Hold on it made it ours.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Let me, I mean, let me. I'm gonna record this
VIC so you can actually hurry up. Okay, ready, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Johnny, how does it feel in your heart?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
That's not working? How do you like that? One?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Take three? Take three?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Listening to the show, he can hear this.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, maybe he is. I don't know if he is
or not.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
This Yeah, come on, man, Okay, go ahead, Johnny. I
love you like a brother.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, it's not working, so screw it. Sorry, it's a
great it was.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
That was great. It's a great radio right there.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Hey, do you guys know who Andrew Kittridge is? And
did you watch what he did for the Cubs last night?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah? Was he got booed off the field the day
he got boot off? What happened last night?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
He threw an immaculate inning? And do you know what
an immaculate inning is?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
That's nine pitches.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Bam bam, bam, bam, bam bam, bam bam boom. That's
an immaculate inning.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
That's sexy. That's sexy. I'm here for.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
We're pretty damn that's pretty damn dominant, which the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Good well, let me let me let me give you
were you saying bam vic pam. Oh you're seeing pam. Yeah.
I thought you're saying bam bam bad.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Like pam like the like this was the stuff you
put on the.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, well let me let me how let me give
you a little bam of course field bam bam, bam,
bam bam. Let mean, come on, man, how do you
do that? I don't know how. I don't know how
you get out hit twenty four to three. How do
you lose twenty to one? I mean the eight of
those runs came off and catcher fine, they scored last
(37:50):
on the So he was a picture last night. It's
just ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
What the Rockies are gonna s watch it on the
golf course. They're gonna set all kind of records for
bad things. The record records this season.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
The starts to games. Games have been over before they've
ever started right first inning this season, compliments of Kevin
Henry first inning, these are the numbers allowed all right
before Tuesday. In if you're Colorado Rocky, they've got the
worst ERA in all of baseball first inning thirtieth in
the league, seven point nine six. Basically in ad RA,
(38:24):
they're worst in the league in hits allowed, runs allowed
worst in the league, worst in the league pretty much
in every category, and among let's say they're tied for
fourth worst, and home runs given up, they're the worst
in k's. They don't throw any strikes. Basically, the staff
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in the first inning of games cannot get any worse
than they are right now.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
So they're dead last.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
I think they're gonna set the record for the largest
run differential in the history of the sport. They're minus
three to sixteen in run differential.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
So if you can't get out of the first inning
without giving up runs without causing damage, I mean you
got no.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Shot, man, I mean they got no shot. No matter
what I mean. You could bring in show hey, and
I don't know what that would do for this team,
you know what I mean? Like you wait, A lot
of people on the text line when we were complaining
about the Rockies a couple of hours ago, were kept
saying two words culture change, culture.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
But what does that mean?
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Yeah, I don't I'm with you. I don't know what
that means. What does a culture change mean? That's that
we had a number of people saying, like they just
need to change the culture up there at Couersfield, and
I was like, that doesn't mean anything to me.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
The Rockies are also the second worst team in baseball
and errors per game.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
In the history of the sport.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Must have the best in field in the game.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Wow, that's what I think ownership said. Uh, they average
point seventy nine erarors per game, right, Okay?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
And did we get a prediction from montfort this season?
Didn't he say they'd be around or was that last
year there he was like, they're gonna be around for
I think we're gonna be around five hundred.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
We're five and he always says that. But but the
worst team in baseball at point eight to zero errors
per game is.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
A team who has twenty more wins than the Rockies.
Right now, let me see them, but the White Sox.
Because the White Sox just celebrated the fact that they
won their forty second game, which is more games than
they won the entirety of last year.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
This is a team currently in the second place inside
their division, which is considered maybe the toughest division in baseball. Woh, Boston,
the Boston Red Sox really, because well they average almost
an error per game, but they but they're.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Suddenly coming on, right, they're suddenly like, Yeah, they're eight
and two in the last ten.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, they've been playing.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Terrible start of the season. Yeah, playing a little bit better. Yeah,
I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Well, well, it's off for the Rockies this year. And
this is my last thought before we move on. Usually,
you're guaranteed their home record is going to be a
hell of a lot better than their road record. Right,
That's been the history of the Rockies, no matter how
good or how bad they are home versus away, it's
just the way it is. This year, they've won sixteen
games at home, fourteen games away from home, almost balanced
equally bad homes in a way.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
I can't believe those they as those crazy numbers, crazy numbers.
We're in August and they have how many wins on
the road?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Vic? Fourteen? All right, so Vic, Johnny Mitchell, he didn't
like your commentary.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I'm listen, man, I have Canadian relatives.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I love talking Fernando about that. How they heck, did
everybody end up in Toronto.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Because they couldn't get into the US? Dude, you know,
to get the proper I'm dead serious, Rick, is that
the proper immigration papers? You had to, they had to settle. Really,
it's like people who go to Boston College. They couldn't
get into Notre Dame. People ended up in Toronto couldn't
get into Denver.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
He says. His retort is, well, vic, I believe the
best on best of the Four Nations Cup proved that
Canada is better. Canada defeated the United States. There's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Hey, Johnny listen, Canada is much better at hockey. All
I'm claiming is we took your sport and made it
our own.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Or I should say we took your game and made
it into a billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
We haven't been able to do that with soccer. Like
my last frontiers, I want to take soccer from Europe
and South America and say it's ours.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Now.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
We've tried that with MLS, but it's not at the
height of the leagues around the world. We've done it
with every other sport. Basketball is ours, football is ours.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Yeah, but nobody else wants.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
To baseball as ours, hockey as ours. I'm not trying
to sound jingleist here, I'm not. I'm just I'm laying.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Go get it, go get soccer, go go be dominating cricket.
What else is out there that.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
We don't want? No, they're gonna have that. It's a
weird game.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
I don't want that. But yeah, man, let me let
me Indian Pakistan.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
That we don't dominate it.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Golf was born in the in Scotland. Correct, it is ours,
It's our sport and made it our own.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Is there currently a sport that we don't dominate that
we should? Man and Vicky might be right. It could
be soccer. It could be soccer because the rest of
the world lives and dies with that sport and we don't.
And I mean, I think that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Man.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
If the greatest athletes in this country all played soccer,
we would murder the world.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I'm a patriot to the end. Degree we have conquered
every frontier, every sport in the globe. Soccer is inconquerable
for whatever reason. We've tried everything since the nineteen.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Eighties, most even before that.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Most How many times have you been told in your
lifetime it's coming?
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, I hear that all the time.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I hear that all the time.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Yeh yeah, yeah yeah, Where is it? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was in a meeting ten years ago with a
bunch of MLS people, and they showed us a stat
that said, in ten years time, so right now, right now, allegedly,
right now, in ten years time, the number one sport
in America would be football. The number two sport in
America would be soccer. They predicted that ten years ago.
And that's currently. That's not the case.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
That's no, we're still we're still exporting our best players.
And think you export your best See, every other country
is exporting players to the US. It's pretty it's pretty
obvious now, Johnny, I love you. You live here because
you were exported here. Pretty much, it's pretty obvious. Now
football is.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Number one, Hockey is clearly number two, and then you
get into then you get into I guess the NBA
and then baseball.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
That made me sound like the big ugly American.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
No no, no, no, no, well, I mean no, no, no, no. Hey,
my family was exported here. Yeah yeah, yeah, mine too,
Mine too. I mean we're both you know, we all
came here raising white Italian Catholic dudes whose parents came
from the law the country.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Hey, I went and picked up my parents the other
night because they finally got back from the old country.
We're driving from d i A. Yeah, well, as you're driving,
and my mom, you know, she's born or raised in
the old country. We're driving down DA and she says, unsolicited,
I'm so happy to be home. There's nothing like America.
And you can go abroad. We went to we certain
parts of it. Ain't nothing like this place.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Ain't nothing like the US.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
And for those people out there who still could plain
every day, ain't nothing like this place.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Man.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
No, I get it, man, all right, this.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Is the Roman Empire. We are the modern day Roman Empire.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
All right, let's just get the leggy you talk some Yeah,
we got Jeff Lugwell next right here,
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Plenty of rules. One of them the depth chart has
to be released in a certain time.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Ye would you like to see the NFL get rid
of it?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
No?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
No, no, no, no no no, ye come on, no,
we just released the depth chart yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
All good.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I just didn't spend a lot of time on them. Well,
what's the purpose of doing you ask them? I mean,
I think for every game, I think it's important there's
a depth chart. It's a starting point. I just didn't
want to make a big deal over the rookies all
being at the end of the line and you guys
went into a tizzy. So they're all right, they're all
at the end of the line, and obviously that'll change.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
I didn't know that's where the no, no no came.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
No, that's what that's one year ago. Last year.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yeah, I did not realize that's where we got that
no no no. Although Sean does like to say some.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Way or goodman asking the question, and it's funny because
his response to that question can be applied today. You
know the depth chart that we went through earlier, All
the rookies are denoted last in the depth chart. There whatever,
whoever you are, John A. Baron, R. J. Harvey, your
last until your first.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Why do people get so hot and bothered about a
depth chart?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Why don't the BRONC Why don't these teams take these
depth charts seriously from the get goes?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well they do. I mean I think when I look
at the Broncos depth.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Chart, now that's not a serious depth chart. Well, I
mean it is, but you know what I mean, like, that's.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
But what's the purpose of doing it?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Message with this stuff?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, I I think, Look, people who get hot and
bothered about it, it's something to talk about. It's camp
gets very mundane. It's the same thing every single day
is said. And then maybe you get a nice little
nugget of truth from somebody on the podium. And I
liked what the players have had to say. I mean,
(02:07):
certainly the Courland Sutton contract and to Zach Allen that's
really cool, that's good, but it's mundane. So anytime you
get a depth chart, oh my god, let's break this
maw down. Well, it doesn't really matter. I care about
the depth chart in the week leading up to the
first game against the Tennessee Titans, Vick, That's what I care.
Who's doing what and by the way, and it's all
(02:30):
just has to do with the rookies. There's not one
other thing on that quote depth chart that surprises me
at all. Nothing.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You know, that's so funny you say that, And that's
the one thing that's missing from this camp. And when
I say missing, I don't like actually miss it. It's
just not there. There's no real competition.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean nothing.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Evan Ingram is the tight end. Drake Greenlaw was brought
in to be the starting inside landbacker. They got position
players that they brought in specific to fit those needs,
and there ain't changing. Nobody's changing there. Give me a
position battle that would surprise you.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Give me one the six wide receiver on.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Trent Srfield somehow got major snaps or something like that.
I guess that would surprise me. But Troy Franklin's doing
his thing. You've already got Sutton Mims in Veley doing
their thing. Pat Bryant was the third round or so,
he's sticking around. Yeah, maybe you've already.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Gave five guys locked up, right, there's five guys at
the wide receiver position. We're making his team so that
you give me one more, one.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
More surefield or games, they'll end up being on a
practice squad and want to want to be on the
active want to be on a practice squad. I guess VI.
The only surprise I would have, and it's not even
really a surprise, but the where Jaliel is listed in
the running back rotation? Is that fair as the second guy?
I mean ahead of estimate, ahead of the day. Obviously
(03:53):
Harvey is that guy. He's going to move up to
that spot. But that's where they have Jaliel right now,
as if to say, we like what he's doing and
he's a different back than all the other backs.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
What do you think the Broncos coaching staff is gonna
be focused on on Saturday Night?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
What do you think Sean Payton wants to see out
of this game? Is there any decisions gonna be made?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I've said it all week. I said the focus should
be on the run game this entire preseason, establishing the
run game, and it's just hard to do because in
the preseason you know, the practice today could indicate a
lot of what they'll work on Saturday. Like sometimes these
practices and these joint sessions, they're more physical than the game.
(04:33):
Depends what we see. I think. I think they have
to establish a competent run game because last season at
times was incompetent.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Would you guys agree, yes, Oh, there's no doubt about it.
I mean, they couldn't. That's why bow Knicks. It's part
of the reason why bow Knicks had such a good
rookie year at the quarterback spot, yards wise and so on,
is because they threw the football a lot and it
wasn't all downfield shots. I mean that one. No, it's
(05:03):
checked down Charlie City. So you're talking about very efficient.
The reason bow Knix didn't take a lot of sexes
because he's not in the seventh step drop. He's a
ton of swing passes and screens and little dumps over
the middle, that sort of thing. Talking about a guy
who's standing back in the pocket waiting for the play
to develop and then going up top it. I mean
(05:25):
in look, we're watching highlights from last year, but you
when you're watching some of these highlights, what are you
seeing out of these quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I mean, listen, we've seen some pretty good quarterbacks in
the highlights.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Have been I mean, when you see these guys, these
guys are these guys are chucking it over the.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Second it's like, well, you said you finally watched Hard
Knocks last night after doing this dirty the night before.
But and Hard Knocks will if you're a Buffalo Bill's fan,
Hard Knocks manipulated you emotionally because they started the show
and then they showed the four Super Bowl losses from
the nineties against you know what I'm talking about. Then
(06:00):
they showed the Bills getting a house, but are losing
to the Chiefs last year in the playoffs. But then
they did an entire highlight package of Josh Allen just
teared up the league last year and winning that MVP.
And if you're a Bills fan, how do you feel
about that? You're like, the that's the lowest moments in
our franchise history.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
But look at Josh Gord, no doubt about it, and
he'll throw the ball all over the field, and he
did it in that first episode. But I'm looking for
more of that out of Bonnicks this year. Vick.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
See that in a preseason.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
No, no, whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Peyton has put in these new wrinkles in the offense,
We're not going to see that on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
What I'm saying is that if you establish a running game,
This gets back to Vick's point. If you establish a
running game, it is going to open up more of
the damn field for number ten and he can, I think,
be even better. And it may not even work Saturday night.
They may run the ball and not gain anything. But
you have to start somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You have to just it's got to be molded into
that line and back field, how to run the ball,
where to run it? I mean, what kind of run
game do you want to see? What do you guys
want to see?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I just want to see anything productive, because I who
goes outside anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
You know, it's funny you say that, because I've read
this whole story about you can't break anything outside in
the NFL, the guys are too fast.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Their lateral movement nowadays, laterally guys fly. The ability to
get off blocks and run laterally is the best it's
ever been.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Defenses now are all like contained, contain, containing, contain, Like
vance Joseph was saying, what's going to make the Broncos
defense truly great? Is that consistency and not giving up
any of those big plays, like keeping those plays you
know contained.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
The biggest difference between the National Football League and every
other level of football is this. When you go watch
a high school game, are you in a college game?
You'll see that play where I don't know how you
get it to them, but the quarterback will pitch it
out to the tailback, maybe an option, maybe an outside handoff, whatever,
and then that runner will beat everybody to the corner
(08:05):
and gain thirty yards. How often do you see that
in the National So rare, so freaking fast?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Mad Max mad Max Well who got injured for the Bills,
but the dude ran a four to two at the combine?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy stupid. Hey are you talking about
the cornerback? Right? Yeah? Hey, you brought up that somebody
predicted the Broncos will get the twelve wins, and I
know where it came from. And I will say this
the USA today. I don't know any publication that's higher
on the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
They simulated every seventy two regular season games.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I don't know that. I don't know that anybody is
more high on the Broncos than calling coward. He loves
because he's Payne. But the USA today in terms of
love the scriptwriters rags, they love these guys.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
They love Dion two, they're always and artistles that see you.
But they they have the Broncos. They they are only
two teams that have more wins the Broncos, according to
the USA today, and that's the Ravens and the Bills.
They have the Broncos winning twelve games and winning the
AFC West. They have them going with twelve and five
and winning the AFC West, although they have the Chiefs
(09:19):
at eleven and six, and they said that the two
games the Broncos and the Chiefs play this season are
probably the winners of those games are going to decide
who wins the AFC West. And you know what I
mean that game where the Chiefs come here in the
first game, the Chiefs come to Denver, but the Chiefs
have a bye the week before, so they have two
weeks to prepare for the for the Bronx. And then
(09:39):
their last game is the Christmas Night game in Kansas City,
which is gonna have all the hype in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And I don't like that both of those KC games
are so late in the season.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, yeah, you'd prefer one early.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Like get mixed up a little bit. Okay, only because
when they're that close together, like if a player is
injured and misses both. Right, Yeah, you know, I wish
I wish one was earlier in the year, but it
could work that way.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It could work that way in your favor too, yus,
You don't know. I think that twelve wins. I was looking.
I was looking at the Power Rankings as well, and
that comes from Nate Adams. And I think Nate Adams
is a pretty good rider. I think he's a pretty
good football guy. Or excuse me, Nate Adams, Nate Davis.
I think he's a pretty a football guy. He has
(10:22):
the Denver Broncos currently in Power Rankings eighth.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yeah, it's great. National Football saw ESPN ranked the top
ten offensive players at each position. The Bronx don't have
a single player.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But it's because of their defense, the seventh overall defense.
And you know last season is going to be even
better this year. And I think that people recognize how
good that d is. He's got him ahead and last
year they were thirteenth going into the end of the season.
He's got him ahead of the Detroit Lions. Of all teams,
he's got him ahead of Pittsburgh with Aaron And that's
(10:56):
rightfully so Niners, Cardinals, Box, Well, he's he's got the
Chargers at fifteen.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, USA predicted the Chargers to win nine games.
They were like, they just don't have that special talent
on offensive defense. And it's not named Herbert, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Well, but the name Herbert's pretty damn good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Hey, yesterday we reported how the NFL is banning smelling salts,
which is not entirely true enough an that they're just
not going to pay for them anymore. So if a
player wants to show up at the game with a
pocket full of smelling salts, they can. They can call
Moser Mosuer. You have a case at home, right, But
isn't that crazy? Like, hey, you we we're not gonna
do it. But if you want to bring your own liability, liability, man,
(11:39):
is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, it's all about appearance.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
If an NFL team is handing some dude who's can
cust smelling salts, they're liable. If that dude brings his
own salts to the game. It's like, I mean, I
guess it's like handing out Copenhagen. If you bring your own.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Let me be honest about that.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Is some c y a nonsense.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It It kind of is. But if they were trying
to ban smelling salts, well they said all club personnel
as well. It's really weird. But if they were trying
to ban them, like ban them, ban them period. The
amount of black market contra banned smelling salts inside of
a locker room and on the sideline it and then
and then what are you gonna do? Get investigators? Well,
who who stuck the smelling salts on to the sideline
(12:23):
and all that? Because players are not gonna give them up.
But it's I promise you they're not going to give
them up.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Yeah I know, I know, and I'm sure they're gonna
bring them.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
George ke, George Kittle. If George Kittle wants to bring
his own, you know, palette of smelling salts for the sideline,
he can still do it. But it's just the league
ain't paying for it.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Bo Nix brings his own smelling salt to the game,
But then Sean Payton uses. It is that illegal because it's.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Not you know what I mean, Like, it's just dumb.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yes, it's just weird.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I understand what they jelly do. Yeah, they're doing a cya.
They don't want they don't want guys. You know, concussion
protocol to be sniffing salt. But what if a guy
gets banged up and he says, me as salt, but
it was brought to the sideline. Look, I guess the
leak can always say it wasn't us. It wasn't us.
You can't sue.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Us the Newshaw when it comes to this stuff. But
I get it. It's I mean, it's millions of dollars
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Speaker 2 (13:46):
Vic, I know that your banned on the text line.
Has that been revisited yet? As the boss obvious?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Is somebody gonna talk about? Is somebody talking to Shock Togevin?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
This breaking news is that Vick is beck on the
text line. I am no, you're not. I'm lying, was
lying before.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
You Still, I don't have any I do. I mean,
it's not really breaking.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Nelly, Nelly, you you should be Nelly. Can you send
that message please and get me back on the text line?
Speaker 6 (14:15):
I think I think Boss probably knows what's up.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Ask him. Then you're my go between. I don't talk
to him.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You do.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I will say this, you.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Will send him a raven vic perfect.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You are on the Twitch though, and I've noticed lately.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
If you want to see what Moser's face, well, I
guess most people know what your face looks like. Yeah,
you've been doing TV man. When'd you leave us from radio?
How long you been doing the TV thing?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Now twenty eighteen, but I was doing TV stuff before that,
I mean just a lot. But I will say this.
Vic sees the twitch feed and it's always kind of
been this way. But I don't know. Maybe it's the
time of year, maybe it's the heat. It's like ninety
five degrees yesterday. People are getting a little mos mos,
(14:59):
people getting litt You know what can happen either today
or tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You know what can happen. Hottest day in the history
of this city. Really, you know what The hottest temperature
in this in the history of Denver, Colorado is one
O five one o five, and we could break that
either today or tomorrow. At least one of the local
news we hit one o six brother tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's pretty hot.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I don't even want to anyway, my bad starting to
think about that.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I was gonna say this. Did you guys see the
comments of DeVante Adams wide receiver for the Losses. Yeah,
he's not sure.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
He's not sure anybody can do what Travis is gonna
try to do. I just read an article about how
the Jags are handling Travis at practice. Man, that dude
puts in work. He puts in mad work to get
what he needs from the offensive and defensive side of
the balls, and especially like they have him doing everything
the Jags. He even came out and said, He's like,
(15:56):
they're trusting me with everything. They are putting a lot
on his shoulders. But yeah, Davante's like, I don't think
it's physically possible to do what Travis is going to
try to do this season with the Jacks. It's physically
impossible to play both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I was gonna explain that, but you just did a
nice job of it.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
My bad, It's all good.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, But he what he said makes a lot of
sense because it's basically the way I think is that
he's gonna have to choose one side and then you're
going to have to vic sprinkle him in a little
bit on the other side. I mean, this is this
is not college football. And while the Big twelve is
major college football and you got big dudes, why doubt.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Him before he even gives it a shot?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Man? And I don't want to doubt him because Travis
Hunter does nothing but play video games, watch film, hang
with his family, and play football. That's all he does
in life. I don't even know if he eats, but
physically the wear and tear against National Football League players,
and he and Vic DeVante Adams brought up, man, you
(16:58):
gotta tackle Derrick Henry. He's right about that. You gotta
tackle that guy. And that's that's the job ahead of you.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So he thinks, what that he's not going to be
as good as indicated, or that he's going to rely
on one position solely.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
He's gonna have to pick one.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, he says if he tries to play both ways,
he says, the game will drop off on both sides
of the ball. And and he's going to get.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Hurt because find out he is slight. His body is
a pretty slight body. So we'll we'll see, we'll see
he's gonna get what do you think he'll see more
physicality on the defensive end of the offensive end?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Offensive? Right, because if you you press him at the line, right,
if he's because he's not the biggest guy, so you
smack you smack him as soon as he comes off
the line. You try to mess up the route, right.
But I mean, Travis doesn't shy away from contact. He
didn't it, see you, He's probably not gonna do it
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Here's what he said. There's just a lot of mileage, man,
And I don't know how. I'm not even concerned so
much if he can do it over the course of
a game or a season. It's more like, how long
is his career going to be if he's playing that
many steps, because all you're doing is doubling your risk
for injury one And I don't wish any of that
on him. I hope that he can play an injury
free season and go ball out. But I mean, it's
(18:16):
just the reality. The more you're on the field, I mean,
it's already a one injury guarantee. Is there a guy
in the NFLVIC that does not get injured?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
You're always going to have an injury of some sort.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah. Always.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah. You know who looks like he should never get
injured because I saw him talk. He was he was
talking about Chador with his shirt off yesterday, and I'm like,
that is just a as Miles Garrett, And I was like,
how does somebody that big ever gets hurt because he
he that he really likes him, he really Although I
have a quote that you find out tomorrow night. Here's
a quote VIC from the local CBS reporter there in Cleveland,
(18:54):
because all the talk is that, you know, Schador's getting
his start because everybody's banged up. And I'm, I'm it's crazy,
how excited I am to watch should replay the Cleveland Browns.
But here's the quote, Vick, and you tell me what
you think about this. Here's what this CBS reporter thinks
about yet about what's going on in Cleveland. He said.
The reporter said that Schadur has to have the greatest
(19:16):
preseason game in preseason football history to kind of change
the perception of the Browns coaches. That's good, cool, Carl,
That's a that's a fairly harsh statement. Where like the
point he was making is that Shador has looked better
in practice than Dylan Gabriel and some of these quarterbacks,
and the only thing that it has earned him is
(19:37):
more reps with the third and fourth string, like they're like, whatever,
he looks good, we don't care. Four string quarterback going
out there. Man, he's gonna have to look amazing. But
that puts pressure on Shadur, right then you're pressing the
whole game. If you're like, you have to be great
in a preseason game.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
That's very interesting that. I mean, if if the die
is already cast, what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, you know, I mean what why are they gone
through the motions? If the coaches already feel that, if
they're abundantly convinced that he's not going to be the guy,
what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Let me let me rewind you a little bit, because again,
you're on that coffee thing, aren't you. Man?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Unlimited coffee is the best. I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, because you're you are freaking out again today. It's
like you're smelling salted and coffeed. Rewind that. This local
CBS reporter said that Chador has to have the best
preseason game in history to do what to change.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
The coach's minds is basically what he said.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
But who right? Who did he say has looked the
best in camp? No?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
He said that Chadour has looked better than Dylan Gabriel
in camp. But it hasn't changed the amount of reps
that Shaduur has gotten. Okay, so it hasn't matter. That
hasn't matter how good Shador's look. He's just still playing
with the threes and fours.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
This is a very slippery slope for the Cleveland Browns,
for the coaching staff, for everybody. And I don't care
about Haslem and what his thoughts are. It's his team.
But the players know vic players know who can play
and who can't play. Players know who they can win
with and who they cannot win with, right sure, And
(21:14):
if you've got number twelve balling out, the questions will
go around the hey man, he man, why what are
we doing with this guy?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Why?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Why isn't it this? You see what I'm saying that
that's one way to screw up the internals of a
football right by not play the guys who are the
best players.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
The suggestion there in Cleveland from this reporter was that
maybe that's the only way Schadur changes his situation, is
that if he wins over the locker room with his play,
and then at that point it doesn't matter what the
coaches think, because you want over the team, and then
maybe that changes the view of the coaching stat Man,
(21:53):
I don't know. It's a bad situation. I mean, does
anybody think it's a good situation for shad there in
Cleveland or Cleveland in general? Man, I don't know what
they're doing with that that QB situation. None whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Well, if he has a great game tomorrow night, it
can only help his costs. If he sucks, then you know,
it's pretty much what they've been saying all along. I
don't care about Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I care about Shad.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I care about it. I care about Shador. I mean,
I look, do you think that there's pressure on him
to go on out and ball out and be crazy
and so on?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Right, he cannot just be it's solid, but I mean
throw four touchdowns or whatever nonsense that he wants.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
But I don't. I don't think that. I don't think
he's built that way. Maybe he feels a little bit
of it because he realizes he's not been getting the
snaps with the top two units in practice. Maybe he
does feel that way a little bit. But I will
say that he's always been a guy to me that
is confident in his own abilities, and he's confident, you know,
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in what he can do in any situation. So I
don't know that he feels all this coronal pressure. I
think he drives himself anyway. I mean, it's not like
he wasn't a driven quarterback at Coloradovic. He played through
a lot of pain and a lot of sacks and
a lot of a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, you know, I I visited with a bunch of
su alum last night after our tennis session, all passionate.
See you guys, man, they go to every game, the tailgate,
they go to every.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Hold on a second, you had a tennis session with
a bunch of su hanks.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
They were there, and I was talking to a bunch
of them, and one.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Thing, Wait, why aren't you Why aren't you making birdies?
Why are you playing tennis? What time? I did both yesterday?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
What happened to the pickleball obsession? I thought you were
gonna be the new king of the pick a ball court?
Was that last year.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Your brother, Your brother turned his pickleball court or his
basketball court into a pickleball No.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
He really plays pickleball there anymore?
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Okay, copy, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
If you play pickleball, you're either elderly or want to be.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Okay, So you're.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Talking for the athlete talk.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You're talking to.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
These seu anyway, and we're talking about Shador and Dion,
and you know they love it and they all agree
to got every single one of them completely aghast at
the retirement of those jerseys when they didn't a gain
not again ticked off about it. So it's not just us,
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it's not just all Boomer, it's the alumni. It's the
alumni that are mad about it, and not the most
recent alumni, the long time alumnia.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Shouldn't have happened. Yeah, it's still a mistake.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
It's yeah, it's yeah. But at the same time, about
making a mountain out of a mole hill, Like I
don't think right, You're like, this is this is dummy.
Probably should It.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
May be a mole hill to you, it's not a
mole hill to players who want to those national champions
and the national championship team layers who went to the
Big twelve.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Title, Why do they care? Vic, Why do you think
they care? So somebody who was successful at see You
thirty years ago, what do they care? Well, it was nepotism,
Yeah yeah, but because it's undeserving.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
That's why.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Okay, all right, yeah, I get it, but I don't
understand just it doesn't affect there, just like how you
don't care that the Rocky suck? Why do they care that?
Is get in love from the current SeeU administration or whatever?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Because it's not. It makes everything, uh a side show.
That's why it's it's it's it shouldn't have happened. And
and the more I think about it, how are we
four months removed?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah, they didn't see you. Just tweeted out a picture
of of the of the retirement right they had, they had,
Travis and chadur they have like it's up there somewhere
in Boulder. They have a special room with it when
they have the picture and the Yeah really yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wonder what the response was to that tweet.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I don't point it out, but yeah, I had this
conversation because I thought it was just us. I thought
it was sensitive media types being overly critical and I'll
boil you, but it's not. Man, it's the people who
went to school there, who paid bills there, who still
go to games there. They're equally.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Upsets.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Not the word like, what is this?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Do you think I think when you save a program?
I don't. I think it's silly as well. Vic, let
me be on record. I think it's silly as well.
Way too soon. Travis hunters a Heisman Trophy winner, so
I can see that. I can't see schidor that's me personally,
But I think it's also important to keep in mind
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that that program was saved. They probably would be, but
I can't guarantee you that CEU would be in the
Big twelve without coach Prime hunder percent. They look what's
going on with Oregon State and Washington State right now,
they are in no man's land. They are in They
are having an absolute abyss. So when you do that, Vic,
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you can kind of do what you want to do.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
As far as I'm not now, you can't. Everything you
said is fact. Prime saved the program. He changed the
program because the administration was going down a weird road
where they were talking about banning the damn game. And
he comes in and changes everything and injected a sense
of belonging, a spark, a fuel. That's all Prime. You
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hasn't mean his kid has his number retired the moment
he agree, that's just dumb.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Do you think there was any pushback at all when
they were like, hey, you know what we should do.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I don't think right now you can push back on
Prime because of what he's done.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Right because we haven't talked about CEU football in the
last thirty years in this city.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
We have a lot. I went to Alamo Bowl in
twenty twenty. But the point I'm trying to get at,
you had people, and we had him on the program.
You had a regent who was trying to get rid
of football, trying to get rid of the program and
turn fulsome field into a giant frog terrarium or something
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like that. I forget what it was, or maybe maybe
not that guy, but this guy genuinely was trying. He's
not a region anymore. He was trying to get rid
of football, which is it's it's almost inconceivable to think
about that. So I don't put all of this. I
don't know what it has to do with him either
making it with the Cleveland Browns or not. Do you
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think that Shador Sanders will have a National Football League career?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Vic, I don't know. From what I could see watching
him play, I always felt he was an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Then what's the hold up here? What's the that?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I mean, how can you be last on the depth
chart with the likes of Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I don't know, possible. I don't know. Here's what I
do know. The guy has talent. He's got arm talent,
head talent, leg tele he's got tileless toughness, He's got
all of that. Now, maybe he takes too many sacks.
Maybe he pats the football.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
The fifth round though, right because he took too many sacks.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I don't know. The guy's got talent. We'll see if
it comes through at the National Football League level. If
he was, if I owned a team, I'd want I'd
want to try.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
You were putting money on it, though, if you had
to bet the farm, well, I'm not. I mean whether
or not he'd have a team yere NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I would try to develop him. That's what I would do.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
You cannot tell me he's not better than Dylan Gabriel.
Give me a break.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah, yeah, And the reports are he's looked better than Gabriel,
and they and the coaching staff there in Cleveland's like,
we don't care, We're gonna keep doing That.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Might be when you have the team owner come out
last week and see, I didn't pick this guy. Ain't
my guy. I mean, that's all on on the GM. Weird.
I mean it's really weird. So who knows what's coming
down from upstairs? Who knows what what they're saying to
the coaching staff in terms of I mean, Vic, how
many owners get involved with with decisions like that, yes
(29:54):
or hint, well, Jerry certainly does because he's the GM.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
A lot of them though, I mean in Hard Knocks,
it was Pegla was on the sidelines talking to McDermott
right right, or he was talking to Sean like.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Doesla is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah, yeah, And he was on the sideline and he
was asking the coach like right, he was asking about
tight ends or different uh, different positions on the field,
just to be like, what's going on, Sean? What do
you think he was that wasn't giving you suggestions? He wasn't.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Terry was asking about the secondary. I think, okay, that's
what that's what set up the mad Max right, right,
they were talking about mad Max right. And then but
this was before he got hurt, before he did whatever.
Then the GM's out there talking to Thomas.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Ye and Thrmos. Thomas was given his opinion on everything.
Thurman was not shy. He was telling him everything that
he was Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, well that's an
all time great and they had Thurman addressed the team
and everything was fun.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
All right.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
We got to dive into some of the numbers from
this preseason game coming up. As the Broncos and Niners
go at it today and on Saturday night, we'll talk
about it next right here on Altitude Sports Moser Lombardi
and back at you here on this Thursday morning. Brett
Kine is he's got one more day off and then
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that's it for vacation for Brett.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
No, no, no, no, you don't. You don't get it
when Brett leaves, don't.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
We don't want to talk with that.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
We just say Brett's passed, he's left us.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
I tried to do that thing where I was gonna
convince people that something horrible that happened to Brett, but well, no,
not horrible.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Just saying, you know, he's left us, he's left the show.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
He's left us, gone to what's that? Hey Nelson's singing
that Michael Jackson song Gone too soon for Us? Please?
Where you do that?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Why don't I pull it up and let Michael do
the rendition?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Anyway? You know what?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Champs me boys, I'm looking at I'm looking at page
what page is this? Page five at the Denver Post
Sports section. And it's one thing when you're watching a
game of corse Field and you see a bunch of
Cubs fans. We're used to that, Cardinals fans, used to it,
Red Sox, Yankees. The hell's going on with all these
freaking Blue Jays fans that invaded yesterday?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Didn't realize we had that many among us.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Are there a lot of Canadians mos living in a
city he was going on run into a bunch of
this well French from up north.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I did see that former Colorado Avalanche John Mitchell was
it the game with his kids, so I'm sure he's
probably one of those wearing a Blue Jays. Yes, going
on with the He's a Toronto guy, let's get at her.
As I was leaving training camp the other day, I
saw a family of four wearing Blue Jays gear.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
So they just made a true See this is what
it's become now, this is what Coursefield's teams on the schedule.
Let's make a week of it in beautiful Denver, Colorado
and go to the game.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yeah yeah, I don't know, man, is there? I mean,
are we still ten years ago? We were one of
the cities that was getting the most influx of new
home right They're like people were moving to Denver in droves.
Are we still in that point where the Denver just
keeps growing each year it gets bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Now what a hold on his second?
Speaker 5 (33:01):
We got a lot of transplants, Yeah, but from Canadian transplants.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
No, that's what I'm saying. I mean, look, is a
great city, right, it ain't.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
It's it's big, It's okay. Canada only has one baseball
team now the Expos are long gone, so all they've
got is a Blue Jay. So I'm assuming that everybody
in Canada who likes baseball is a Blue Jays fan,
maybe like people from Vancouver or who knows, it's some
somebody Manitoba, the BC people. Maybe they've made have.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Their own baseball league, like they have their own like
the football league. They don't have like the Canadian Baseball league.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
They don't even have their own hockey league.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Okay, man, he's a dork.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Why am I dork? Hey? Man, I have a lot
of Canadian friends, and I'm sure they're listening to let me,
we took your sport and stole it and made it
our own. What are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
There we your sport, your national sport. Said it's ours now.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Although I am a little nervous about Team Canada house
and Team USA once, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
We took the sport and said we're taking over. We're
gonna take most of your teams. Your player's gonna come
play here. We've taken it.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Moser's probably gonna do about it. When's the last time
a Canadian team won the Cup? How many decades ago?
Was it Moses who was the goaltender of the team
that won the last Cup in Canada.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm gonna slam this whole cup of coffee so I
can keep up with you. It was Patrick Wall in
the ninety three Canadians three.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
As the last any last time any one of those
chuckleheads won the Cup?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
That's crazy, Kevin says. Blue Jays fans take over Safeguil
Field in Seattle too, when the Blue Jays play the
Mirrors Seattle. That's right, that's right down the road. Yeah,
what are they? What are these what are they doing
in Denver?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
How about this? Here's here's something on the text like
that I don't think is true. That said they said
that Denver's turning into San Diego, where everbody wants to
live in San Diego, but none of the professional sports teams.
But that's that.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
No, No, we may not respect it because it's been
hot this week. It's supposed to be one hundred today,
hundred record heat today. We may look at that and say,
oh my god. Denver remains, trust me, because most you
just felt it going to Italy. Denver remains. The summers
in Denver, I can't I can't think of any place better.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, but typically we get a lot of rain too
in the afternoon. I don't care you have been having
any of that. Now.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Colorado on the summer is the best place.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
I tell my wife all the time for vacation. Let's
not do it now, man, Yeah, I want to chill here.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
If you do it, do it in January February. Yet,
this is the best time that Colorado was amazing during
the summer.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I should I should just text Okay, Johnny Mitchell says, Yeah,
I went Monday and yes I had a Blue Jay's
Tea on See. I'm texting back. You're part of the problem,
So okay.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Tell Johnny this, Johnny, Say Johnny, how does it feed?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Let me know that we took on your sport.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Hold on it made it ours.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Let me, I mean, let me. I'm gonna record this
VIC so you can actually hurry up. Okay, ready, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Johnny, how does it feel in your heart?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
That's not working? How do you like that? One?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Take three? Take three?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Listening to the show, he can hear this.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, maybe he is. I don't know if he is
or not.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
This Yeah, come on, man, Okay, go ahead, Johnny. I
love you like a brother.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, it's not working, so screw it. Sorry, it's a
great it was.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
That was great. It's a great radio right there.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Hey, do you guys know who Andrew Kittridge is? And
did you watch what he did for the Cubs last night?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah? Was he got booed off the field the day
he got boot off? What happened last night?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
He threw an immaculate inning? And do you know what
an immaculate inning is?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
That's nine pitches.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Bam bam, bam, bam, bam bam, bam bam boom. That's
an immaculate inning.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
That's sexy. That's sexy. I'm here for.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
We're pretty damn that's pretty damn dominant, which the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Good well, let me let me let me give you
were you saying bam vic pam. Oh you're seeing pam. Yeah.
I thought you're saying bam bam bad.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Like pam like the like this was the stuff you
put on the.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, well let me let me how let me give
you a little bam of course field bam bam, bam,
bam bam. Let mean, come on, man, how do you
do that? I don't know how. I don't know how
you get out hit twenty four to three. How do
you lose twenty to one? I mean the eight of
those runs came off and catcher fine, they scored last
(37:50):
on the So he was a picture last night. It's
just ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
What the Rockies are gonna s watch it on the
golf course. They're gonna set all kind of records for
bad things. The record records this season.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
The starts to games. Games have been over before they've
ever started right first inning this season, compliments of Kevin
Henry first inning, these are the numbers allowed all right
before Tuesday. In if you're Colorado Rocky, they've got the
worst ERA in all of baseball first inning thirtieth in
the league, seven point nine six. Basically in ad RA,
(38:24):
they're worst in the league in hits allowed, runs allowed
worst in the league, worst in the league pretty much
in every category, and among let's say they're tied for
fourth worst, and home runs given up, they're the worst
in k's. They don't throw any strikes. Basically, the staff
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in the first inning of games cannot get any worse
than they are right now.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
So they're dead last.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
I think they're gonna set the record for the largest
run differential in the history of the sport. They're minus
three to sixteen in run differential.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
So if you can't get out of the first inning
without giving up runs without causing damage, I mean you
got no.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Shot, man, I mean they got no shot. No matter
what I mean. You could bring in show hey, and
I don't know what that would do for this team,
you know what I mean? Like you wait, A lot
of people on the text line when we were complaining
about the Rockies a couple of hours ago, were kept
saying two words culture change, culture.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
But what does that mean?
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Yeah, I don't I'm with you. I don't know what
that means. What does a culture change mean? That's that
we had a number of people saying, like they just
need to change the culture up there at Couersfield, and
I was like, that doesn't mean anything to me.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
The Rockies are also the second worst team in baseball
and errors per game.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
In the history of the sport.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Must have the best in field in the game.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Wow, that's what I think ownership said. Uh, they average
point seventy nine erarors per game, right, Okay?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
And did we get a prediction from montfort this season?
Didn't he say they'd be around or was that last
year there he was like, they're gonna be around for
I think we're gonna be around five hundred.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
We're five and he always says that. But but the
worst team in baseball at point eight to zero errors
per game is.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
A team who has twenty more wins than the Rockies.
Right now, let me see them, but the White Sox.
Because the White Sox just celebrated the fact that they
won their forty second game, which is more games than
they won the entirety of last year.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
This is a team currently in the second place inside
their division, which is considered maybe the toughest division in baseball. Woh, Boston,
the Boston Red Sox really, because well they average almost
an error per game, but they but they're.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Suddenly coming on, right, they're suddenly like, Yeah, they're eight
and two in the last ten.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, they've been playing.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Terrible start of the season. Yeah, playing a little bit better. Yeah,
I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Well, well, it's off for the Rockies this year. And
this is my last thought before we move on. Usually,
you're guaranteed their home record is going to be a
hell of a lot better than their road record. Right,
That's been the history of the Rockies, no matter how
good or how bad they are home versus away, it's
just the way it is. This year, they've won sixteen
games at home, fourteen games away from home, almost balanced
equally bad homes in a way.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
I can't believe those they as those crazy numbers, crazy numbers.
We're in August and they have how many wins on
the road?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Vic? Fourteen? All right, so Vic, Johnny Mitchell, he didn't
like your commentary.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I'm listen, man, I have Canadian relatives.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I love talking Fernando about that. How they heck, did
everybody end up in Toronto.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Because they couldn't get into the US? Dude, you know,
to get the proper I'm dead serious, Rick, is that
the proper immigration papers? You had to, they had to settle. Really,
it's like people who go to Boston College. They couldn't
get into Notre Dame. People ended up in Toronto couldn't
get into Denver.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
He says. His retort is, well, vic, I believe the
best on best of the Four Nations Cup proved that
Canada is better. Canada defeated the United States. There's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Hey, Johnny listen, Canada is much better at hockey. All
I'm claiming is we took your sport and made it
our own.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Or I should say we took your game and made
it into a billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
We haven't been able to do that with soccer. Like
my last frontiers, I want to take soccer from Europe
and South America and say it's ours.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Now.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
We've tried that with MLS, but it's not at the
height of the leagues around the world. We've done it
with every other sport. Basketball is ours, football is ours.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Yeah, but nobody else wants.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
To baseball as ours, hockey as ours. I'm not trying
to sound jingleist here, I'm not. I'm just I'm laying.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Go get it, go get soccer, go go be dominating cricket.
What else is out there that.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
We don't want? No, they're gonna have that. It's a
weird game.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
I don't want that. But yeah, man, let me let
me Indian Pakistan.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
That we don't dominate it.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Golf was born in the in Scotland. Correct, it is ours,
It's our sport and made it our own.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Is there currently a sport that we don't dominate that
we should? Man and Vicky might be right. It could
be soccer. It could be soccer because the rest of
the world lives and dies with that sport and we don't.
And I mean, I think that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Man.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
If the greatest athletes in this country all played soccer,
we would murder the world.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I'm a patriot to the end. Degree we have conquered
every frontier, every sport in the globe. Soccer is inconquerable
for whatever reason. We've tried everything since the nineteen.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Eighties, most even before that.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Most How many times have you been told in your
lifetime it's coming?
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, I hear that all the time.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I hear that all the time.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Yeh yeah, yeah yeah, Where is it? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was in a meeting ten years ago with a
bunch of MLS people, and they showed us a stat
that said, in ten years time, so right now, right now, allegedly,
right now, in ten years time, the number one sport
in America would be football. The number two sport in
America would be soccer. They predicted that ten years ago.
And that's currently. That's not the case.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
That's no, we're still we're still exporting our best players.
And think you export your best See, every other country
is exporting players to the US. It's pretty it's pretty
obvious now, Johnny, I love you. You live here because
you were exported here. Pretty much, it's pretty obvious. Now
football is.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Number one, Hockey is clearly number two, and then you
get into then you get into I guess the NBA
and then baseball.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
That made me sound like the big ugly American.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
No no, no, no, no, well, I mean no, no, no, no. Hey,
my family was exported here. Yeah yeah, yeah, mine too,
Mine too. I mean we're both you know, we all
came here raising white Italian Catholic dudes whose parents came
from the law the country.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Hey, I went and picked up my parents the other
night because they finally got back from the old country.
We're driving from d i A. Yeah, well, as you're driving,
and my mom, you know, she's born or raised in
the old country. We're driving down DA and she says, unsolicited,
I'm so happy to be home. There's nothing like America.
And you can go abroad. We went to we certain
parts of it. Ain't nothing like this place.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Ain't nothing like the US.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
And for those people out there who still could plain
every day, ain't nothing like this place.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Man.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
No, I get it, man, all right, this.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Is the Roman Empire. We are the modern day Roman Empire.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
All right, let's just get the leggy you talk some Yeah,
we got Jeff Lugwell next right here,
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