0:00 - The Colts just named Daniel Jones their Week 1 starter. That's gotta be the end of Anthony Richardson's Colts days, right? There's no coming back from that. Could he go elsewhere and find success? Who are the great reclamation project QBs in NFL history that switched teams and revived their career?
16:10 - It's almost college football season, which means it's time for Paul Finebaum to say something stupid that makes us mad. He said an SEC school will probably try to steal Deion Sanders regardless of how this season goes. What does that mean? Even if Deion goes 1-11, Florida will try to poach him or something?
32:51 - Baseball's weird, man. The Rox are rallying! Even the worst teams can get hot in a 162 game season. Also, Rich Eisen had a touching tribute to his former ESPN/SportsCenter co-host the late great Stuart Scott.
16:10 - It's almost college football season, which means it's time for Paul Finebaum to say something stupid that makes us mad. He said an SEC school will probably try to steal Deion Sanders regardless of how this season goes. What does that mean? Even if Deion goes 1-11, Florida will try to poach him or something?
32:51 - Baseball's weird, man. The Rox are rallying! Even the worst teams can get hot in a 162 game season. Also, Rich Eisen had a touching tribute to his former ESPN/SportsCenter co-host the late great Stuart Scott.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Mosher, Lombardi and Caine on demand. Listen live
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
All right, hey on, hay On, there is to me.
It's shocking.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
If anybody is paying attention to the Week two matchup
that the Broncos have, because Moser is already declared, not
only is Week one against the Tennessee Titans going to
be a victory, it is going to be a win
that backups will be in in the second half. That's
how Moser feels that the Tennessee game is going to
go to open the season.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
The next week they do.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
What you want a proclamation. Bo Nitch will be wearing
a baseball cap. Okay, that is a dub.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
The next week, the Broncos go on the road for
a game that we all thought was going to be
a w as well.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
We assumed better team than Tennessee. But it's at Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
While a decision has been made, according to Adam Schefter
and Stephen Holder, the Colts have just named Daniel Jones
their starting quarterback over Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Let's get weird.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Huh, Danny Dimes seems to be more fit for their offense.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So they're done with Anthony Richardson. They've said this is over,
this is so much. After a couple of years, we're
done with this pretty much, no more.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I don't hold a hot time out. You realize he's
two years younger than Bonnick's. Yeah, he's only twenty three
years old.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I think he entered the NFL at twenty.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
He just turned twenty three. Yeah, okay, a couple months ago.
He's still very very young. Vic I challenge you right now.
I don't think I know the answer.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But I might know the answer.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
How many how many games did he play in college
at Florida Richardson?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I think it was like thirteen years.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I say that's twelve, Okay, I think it's twelve total games.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I mean, he's still a very young guy.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
If I'm the Indianapolis Colts, I have absolutely no problem
throwing Danny Dimes, who's twenty.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Eight twenty four games? He played twenty four?
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Did he really?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh my bad?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I have no problem throwing him as the backup and
let him, I mean, let him learn some more. I
guess if he's you know, if he's gonna be a future.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Guy for you. Sorry most year credit he played in
twenty four games. He had twelve starts. There you go,
That's that's what I meant.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Here's the thing. Can I ask a question regarding Anthony Richardson?
He has raw talent, like we've seen Nelly, if you
can find it? Can you find Week one last year
he had a touchdown pass that was like an eighty
yard just ripped. Do you guys remember this? Yeah, his
arm the first of the year last year. See if
you can find it and pull it up behind me.
If you do, Nelly, was he done the second he
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tapped out of that game?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Midway through last year?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You guys remember that when he went off, he went
off for a scramble, tapped his helmet and said, I
need to breathe. I remember that, and then ever since then,
the Colts were like, it felt like they were done
with him right then and there, right because there was
a whole bunch of backstory. And then I think they
played Flacco a little bit after that, they gave him
the starting job.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think that they were done with him midway through
the year after he did that.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Well, here are is numbers against the Broncos last year
in that game in Denver. You remember, Anthony Richardson was
seventeen to thirty eight, zero touchdowns, two picks that same game.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
That game was like a seven point game with like
ten minutes left, by the way, that was the game.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Jonathan Taylor gave the ball back right before crossing the
end zone.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
You remember that, Yes, and they had the double reverse
pass that was picked off by Benito.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Indy was up in that game with a chance to
take a pretty good lead, and Jonathan Taylor says, Eh,
you gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Have the ball.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
I don't, I don't need it.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I gotta see this throw again. This is a want
it this from week one last year. I want you guys,
let's all watch this for a second. Just look what
this arm can do.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
Stumble.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He's in the middle, he's backing up like against his body,
and he chucked it that looked like from the thirty
yard line to the end zone and to the end
zone like with his weight back and not not even
stepping into it like raw talent, raw talent.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Though Bonnicks threw a sixty seven yard Yeah, it wasn't
like that though.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
This This this is a guy's off balance falling backward vic,
I don't you know, I just.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
To move on that quickly. Gosh, that's gotta hurt. That's
really got it hurt. I don't even know that they're
moving on.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I just think you don't start Daniel Jones to give
him the job back? Probably right, I mean, I guess
you can say that kind of happened last year in
Carolina with Bryce Young, where they gave what he was Dalton, right,
Dalton a few starts and then gave him the job back,
and Bryce Young played better. But it's very rare that
you're like, I'm Week one, I'm starting somebody else than
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my young quarterback who's.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Had a couple of years in the league.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Who's the best, who's the best rehab project quarterback wise
that you could think of?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Donalds Donald's got a pretty good He's got a pretty
good one going on. Rich Cannon became became.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
An m v P in in Oakland.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, he did. That's a good question. Tex Kansas, Texas,
help us out, help us out. Who would you consider,
like the the guy who was young quarterback that was
giving up on they got a second opportunity in capt Baker.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Could they consider Baker Mayfield a great example one. I mean, listen,
he the Browns wanted him gone. All he did was
unlock all the beer joints or all the beer what
do you call all the beer coolers in Cleveland? He
had locked them all, right with that win. And you
know on two days notice he goes to l a right.
Remember he went in and filled in for the Rams
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two days notice. Played his butt off.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Some people listening to Drew Brees.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Drew Brees was a pretty damn good quarterback when he
was in San Diego, and Sean Payne just took him
next level.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, breeze, breeze, Wasn't it? More like people were concerned
with his shoulder?
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Yeah, he had an injury. John Lynch caused it. John
Lynch hit him in the end zone, jacked up his shoulder.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Alex Smith is a good one. Gino Geno's got a
case for it. He came back from the Jets start
those few years in Seattle, became a starting quarterback again.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I feel like we're missing someone though, too. I feel
like we're missing somebody that should be even more obvious
to us.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
Rich Gannon became an MVP of the league.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He was a backup to MVP.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Yeah, Kurt Warner. Someone says Kurt Warner was different. That
Kurt Warner was.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Was the rags to riches. He made a movie. He
was never was that became somebody. Right. He wasn't a washout.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
It's not like he came into the league much balllyhooed
and washed out.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
That wasn't the case.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I got a couple, I got a couple. Goff, would
you consider golf that say? Uh, the Rams kind of
gave up on him.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, but he was traded. He was traded. I mean
he was.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
He was a dude for dude, not hey, we'll bring you.
They brought him in as a starter there in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Brett Ryan Tannehill when he went to Tennessee and took
him to the AFC Championship game. He had a couple
of really good years in Tennessee. I think that's the
one that decent.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Decent is the word.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But if you're looking at these guys, who.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Was the first gime we're just talking about, because I'm thinking,
let's say, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, these guys are they they haven't even had a shot.
I mean, you were talking about Donald first.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Do any of these guys have a chance and Anthony Richardson,
any of these guys have a chance at a reclamation
project at all. Because I tell you what, if I'm
Zach Wilson and I realize I'm behind Tua, I've got
a feel that I'm going to get some pretty good
opportunities to get in the game and get some snaps
this year.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I'm I'm so glad we aren't in this space anymore,
because we certainly were for about a decade.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But if you're.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
If you're the Jets, they don't have a young quarterback
on their roster. They have justin fields that they're trying
to do this with. What are you willing to part
with to take a flyer on Anthony Richardson former or
what was he sixth overall? Something like that, fourth overall
or something?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I think I think, just to make it a bigger party,
I think Cleveland should sign him.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
God, that'd be funny, that would be really funny. But
do you do you go like mos?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You seem to like the potential of what Richard said.
He's huge, he's athletic, he's got a strong RM. He
looks like an Adonis. Would you give up a third
for him.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
No, if you're one of these teams that's that doesn't
have a quarterback, like you're that stupid.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Let me let me admit, Let me, let me admit something.
I asked MOJ. I think, MOJ might I speak for him?
I love arms, I love I know you do. I
love most might give up a third for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I love watching guys just drop back and hook the football.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It does something to me. So I might. I might.
It depends on my situation.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
But he's still I think the key here, boys is
that he's not twenty seven, right, he's twenty three years old.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
He just turned twenty three. Yeah, he's still a baby.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I mean, you get I guess I'm like every other
stupid GM in the in the NFL. Man, if I
get my hands on him, if I get my guy's
hands on him, I can make him something.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So let's go through this again. You always talk about
getting a hot start to the season. You want to
start the season off well, get the vibes up, get
the juices flowing.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Your first two matchups.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Sorry, number one draft pick and Cam Ward who plays
for a very very bad football team, who's going on
the road against one of the league's best defenses.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And who just got in a fight at camp with
his defensive line, one of his defensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
The second we you have Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Weeks three, four, and five get a lot more difficult
because then it's Herbert Burrow in Jalen Hurts, and then
after that it's justin fields and I think maybe Russell Wilson.
It's like you have sandwiched two fairly easy quarterback matchups,
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three really tough ones to two easy ones. Again, not
the worst sort of start if you can steal kind
of one in the middle.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Not the worst, you know, In the last twenty five years,
the Denver Broncos have drafted how many quarterbacks in the
first round.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Think about this for a second.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
How many quarterbacks drafted.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
In the first round?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Paxton ly, Paxton Tebow, Tebow jobs, j Cutler four four right,
Bonnix is still under wraps, Axcell Lynch washed out. They
traded the other two guys. They traded Cutler in Tiba.
Do you remember what they got for you? The fact
that they got stuff back for Tebow?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
What did they know what they got for Teba?
Speaker 7 (11:05):
They traded him to the Jets for a fourth and
a sixth round pick.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Okay, Cutler was traded to the Bears.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
What they get for cutting Look at this, They got
Kyle Orton. They got Kyle Orton along with two first
round picks?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah? Who, but Cutler was here's the difference to Culer
could play, but they got two of them. Cutler could play. Like.
That's the thing with Richardson.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Richardson ain'tetting that because Richardson has not proven whatever you thought.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Again, the most Richardson would get is a sixth round
for sixth, No way, he.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Was fourth overall, it'd be more than that. Again, he's
twenty three years old. Man, he's still young. He's still
very young.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
What did the Broncos. What did the Broncos trade for
Zach Wilson?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It was pick swap. It was like a sixth or seventh.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
So you mean to tell me that that Anthony Richardson
has shown you more than what Zach Wilson showed you
with the Jets.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah? Nothing for him, dude, nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I got a hard time believing. And I think it's
just I think it's more than just his arm or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I think it's the athletics, the athleticism and his size.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
VI.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You might be right. You might be if I bring
up this name from the three oh eight eight, what
do you think? What do you think? People think? Ready?
Pretty good reclamation project.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
After a stint with the Patriots and the forty nine ers, let.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
Me think about this whole time a second. After a
stint with the Patriots and the forty.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Nine ers, this guy went to another team and won
a super Bowl and a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Who we take, Patriots and forty nine ers? Patriots first,
then forty nine ers. Yeah, but it's old school. Oh well,
that's what I'm Steve. Why are you making fun of me? Dude?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Steve Grogan had the last neck Dawson that that guy
could take a bite and it wouldn't hit his stomach
for twenty minutes. That's how long that guy's that.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You're gonna say. Jimmy G.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I mean, Jimmy G went from the Patriots to San
Francisco and made the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Who is it? Jim Plunkett he's started with this. I
didn't know he started with the Patriots. Yeah, he started
with the Patriots. I never guess that.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Yeah, Jim Plunkett Brogan's neck, dude, look at that all right?
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Now, show me Plunkett's face, Well, just a big old face.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Why do you want to make fun?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And he wore that tiny little dude, I was just
a kid when the Raiders won the.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Super Bowl, would plunk it over the over Ron Jaworski
and the Philadelphia Eagles. I hated Jim Plunkett because the
Broncos and Raiders at that's an all time.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
But Jim Plunkett was was a flame sort of a
flame er out there he is and uh he won
the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
For God's sake, it stays. That's not even the helmet,
that's that's hairspray did. Like how would that save you?
Look at look at that helmet, Like if you got
hit in the ear hole like those quarterbacks did back
in the day, that helmet doesn't help you.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Lose an ear. The face mask is a chin strap.
How does he not break his nose? Like every week? Man,
that's insane.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
I was looking at I always go down this.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Remember the guy you remember the dude you guys were
telling me about that wore no helmet In the mid nineties, Actually.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
There was a theory on that you want to prevent
concussions in the National Football League somebody, somebody wrote a
paper on let them play without helmets.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You know it's safer to do bare knuckle boxing instead
of putting on the gloves too.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, well no, but you wouldn't have crowded the helmet
stuff to worry about because nobody.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Oh, you know, you're right, there's no psychopaths in the
NFL to snap their next to make a hit. You
kidding me?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You think you think.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Guys are gonna barrel down the field with the crown
of their helmet if they're not head, if they're not
wearing a helmet.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Vic if I asked you if you had no knowledge
of what happened previously in the NHL, and I said
you don't you really think that guys would not wear
a helmet and sit in front of a slap shot
wear that off the face?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Dude.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
The craziest thing is the same thing, Brett, Brett stop.
I want you to remember there was a time there
was an era were hockey goaldies did not wear masks.
I know.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And you guys are telling me that if you remove
the helmets that listening football players aren't going to be sieges.
I don't worry with you.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
I want you to sit there and close your eyes
and imagine yourself inside hockey goal with slapshots coming at you,
and you're not wearing a mask.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I played third base, same thing. I didn't have a mask,
Same thing, I wore one off the face. What are
you talking about anyway?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Uh? Three or three? Five? Four oh nine? Two five?
It reminds me Brian Cushing. You remember that crazy man.
You think if you didn't put out on him, he
wouldn't still stick his nose into somebody, please, but he
probably would.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
All right?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Back after this, rapidly approaching live football this weekend, starting
on Friday, Valor taking on Pine Creek, and it's going
to be Nate and Tyler on a TV simulcast.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
By the way, Altitude TV.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That'll be at seven o'clock on Friday Saturday morning, ten am.
The opener to the college football season from Dublin, Iowa
State in Kansas State. Two ranked teams, Big twelve teams.
Implications for CEU's upcoming season on the line. By the way,
speaking of said, I saw this earlier on ESPN. They
(16:45):
had fine mom on first take with the headline shot.
SEC schools called theon regardless of Colorado season outcome, it's
I don't know what that means regardless of their season outcome.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I mean, like, he finishes zero to twelve and they
should still call.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
First of all, he has a contract and it's a
pretty large buyout. Remember when they ye, well they announced
all that.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
He's making ten million year. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I think the ESPN just regurgitates stuff for the hell
of it. You put Sanders on the air and it
becomes why would you even report a story like that?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Season eddying?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I have no idea what to expect out of the
cu Buffs this year?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Do you guys?
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
And it leads me to the question I wanted to ask,
because regardless of the outcome is a wild thing to say,
we have like some expectations for the Broncos. They have
to make the playoffs again, and I think for most
people winning a playoff game is the logical next step
for you to be like successful season?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
What does that look like for SeeU?
Speaker 7 (17:50):
No idea.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You don't know what you would consider a success as
of right now.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
I don't know what they are. I mean does anybody?
I don't know what they are. Who's first of all
is juju gonna play quarterback? Is getting Salter?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Who's the quarterback? Well? Both.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Here's what gets web Here's what gets weird with college now.
I don't think anybody really knows what their team's going
to be.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's a good point.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Everybody's team is brand new. You need to have expectations.
Outside of that, it's easier and others. It's easier with
the Nuggets because we know the players. It's easier with
the Broncos, we know them. It's easier with the Ahs,
we know them.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yeah, but this one's different because they lose two perennial players.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
They lost two guys who had their jerseys retired.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Well, and with that vic it's what kind of team?
What kind of echelon do you want them to be?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
In?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Ohio State lost really good players last year, Michigan lost
really good players. Georgia Bama they lost really good players.
But they still have the same expectations.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Mm hm, So I think what should see you be?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
I think they're asking can they reach the level of
those teams where you just get new good studs in.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, that's the the imperative in college athletics.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
They're not going to find another Travis Hunter. But it
seems to me the transfer from Liberty and the and
the freshmen are pretty damn good players. So I mean,
I I don't know if the expectation should be I
would love the expectations should be that you pick up
right where you left off and there's no big deal.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Like here's here's this. If they aren't with a couple
of weeks left in the conversation for a Big twelve
title game, is that? Is that not successful?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I will be bummed out if we hit week ten.
It's like, well, they're too far back, they can't make it.
I don't think that's something you live with. I really don't.
I think you should expect more regardless based on what
based on ten million dollar head coach.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Okay, so are you certain that this is a team
like you just mentioned Ohio State, you mentioned Michigan, Alabama.
Those are replenishment programs. Yes, the expectations are this. You
know that program is going to replenish every year. Is
SeeU finished program?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yet?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Well?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
See that's vic. That's what That's what I'm getting at
with Brett. It'll be great if they were Brett. That's
all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
When you pay a coach that kind of money. See,
you might have different ways to value success. Part of
the ten million dollars they paid Dion was what attention
on the program, merchandise getting out of state people to
come to their school because Dion's there, I'm going to
target to.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You, Brett, He's already paid for himself. Okay, but hang on,
that's part of why they pay them. I don't care
how much money they make.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
If I have a ten million dollar head coach in
my state, I want that coach to produce at a
ten million dollar level. I'm not asking him to be Bama. Okay,
I know they aren't going to do that. But to
be competitive and be in the conversation for a big
Big twelve title every year should absolutely be the standard.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
With that, I got another topic and talk to see
you and CSU in a moment. But Betty nods from FanDuel,
Where do you think SeeU ranks right now? Betty nods
to win the Big twelve Championship.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I'll go down the list.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Oh, they're probably high because they're going to get a
lot of money on them.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
I would say, no, third, not even close. Yeah, I
was gonna say they're probably like eighth, Kansas State and
Utah and Texas Tech all tie to plus five fifty,
Top three, Arizona State plus six hundred, Baylor plus six fifty,
TCU plus eight fifty, Iowa State plus twelve hundred, Kansas
plus fifteen hundred, BYU plus twenty three hundred, and then Colorado.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Plus three thousand.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I'm actually surprised by that, just because I thought people would.
It's like when people would put money on the Lakers
to win every year the NBA champions.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
You mentioned the coach. You're putting money on coaches. Yeah,
and that's the ability to replenish the cupboard.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Okay, I'll give you how about this. I'll give you
another example, one that I know a lot better. There
were years I knew Nebraska was not going to be good,
but Nebraska's money and their odds to win the Big
Ten would always be high because a lot of people
would bet on Nebraska frombra that they'd be better, and
I knew they weren't going to be that. I knew
that they weren't Ohio State, but the odds did not
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match up with their team because they had a lot
of money on them.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I mean, I just think the betting public is saying
we don't believe it. I mean, you lose Shador and
you lose the Heisman Trophy winner, You're gonna have a
regression big time.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I mean, they finished.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Really fourth in the Big Twelve last year in terms
of overall record, but they were tied with the three
teams in front of them inside the conference at seven
and two.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Right, yeah, I'm looking at how I want to believe.
I want to believe.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I want J Norvil and company to have a double
digit win season. I want I want some ten wins
for the Ramies.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Speaking of that, I hate to go down this road again,
but it just sucks most.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Do you remember a few years.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Back when see you and CSU got it on first
game of the season, maybe the second at that point,
I don't remember, and they played down at.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
The skame with the third week the last couple of years, well, there.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Was a few years ago.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Mosier nine got down there and we took the VESTPA
and we went tailgating before the game, and it's all
we talked about that week was the game I barfed,
you barfed on a lamb chop. The fact that that
that game, that game all right, So this year, see
you opens up against Georgia Tech.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
That'll be hell of a game too. At Colorado that's
hell of a game.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
CSU opens up against Washington, that's a hell of a challenge.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
CSU does THEIRS on Saturday, August thirtieth.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
SeeU does THEIRS on the twenty ninth.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
But man, do I miss ceuc issue already already and
you cannot tell me it's not talked about. It's not
hyped up because we hyped it up every time we
all did, and it's gone.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I have so many fund memories of going to that game.
No matter where it's held, well, it's it fullsome whether
it's up at Colorado State, Cambas, Mile High, it's just
a lot of fun memories.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
I mean, I'll just ask you.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
A CSU opens up against Washington again, the hell of
a freaking challenge.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
See you open up.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Against Georgia Tech. Are we more interested in those games
or if they played each other?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
If they played each other, well of course, yeah, so
why aren't they playing each other? I do not possess
the answers you're looking for.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I think the Rams can be a ten win team.
They cannot win at Washington on the thirtieth. They cannot.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
There's a lot of games they can win.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Though there's a lot of games the Ramies can get
it done. And that Boise State game toward the end
of the year always scares me. The Air Force game
always scares me because.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
They finished strong last year. They found their stride.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
They did Texas.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Jay Norvel mentioned this year they're trying to get Colorado
on the schedule for next season.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, whatever it takes, do it. But any I don't
think it's CSU's choice.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
No, No, it's it's about what CEU wants to do.
But again, I the expectation thing is hard to get
your mind wrapped around because it's hard for really any team.
But I will say, when your coach is making the
amount of money that he's making, and the textra says
that they don't have the money that the other teams
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do to be competitive year in year out. They got
enough money to pay their their head coach that much,
but they don't they don't need. Here's the other thing
I would I would say, they aren't competing with Georgia,
they aren't competing with Michigan.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
And Ohio the state.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Yeah, but they are competing with Kansas And did you
see what that Kansas alum just did?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Three hundred million.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Dollars the largest gift ever.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
I think his name is David Booth.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
They named the stadium after him, and the rest of
them money is going to nil.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Bam, what was it for sports? Yeah? But what you
give in sports? Here you go. So most of it's
towards the stadium, like a stadium contribution.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Well they redid the stadium.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Yeah, so he pretty much has his name all over then,
and the rest of it is earmarked for athletics.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
The have you seen have you seen the new Kansas Stadium?
Have you seen all the stuff?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It says rock chalk in seats at the time. I mean,
it looks pretty impressive to me.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I'm trying to figure out you guys have asked me
this before. But if I was I was a guy
who owned a yacht, I had that kind of money when.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I tossed like twelve million year my good old Uno
Mavericks to get Derek Jeter to coach him what I
do it, and he wouldn't do it for twelve million
a year though.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
But I can't do that because my boy's coaching right now,
my former teammates head coach right now, I can't ask him.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
The million Are you earning.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
The three hundred million dollars? This guy's an asset manager.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
What the hell that is.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
From Austin, Texas?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Fake?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
The largest single gift in the history of college athletics,
not just Kansas. Nowhere in the history of college athletics
has there been a single gift this large. Not even
t Boon Pickens eclipse that number at Oklahoma State. That's
how big of a donation that was to the athletics department.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Hey, but if you'd take inflation in bet at the time,
Pickens' donation was probably more.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Maybe so.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, yeah, they might not be that but Kelly suck. Yeah,
Kelly got to get back on Kelly.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Hey, just quickly. The ringer, I like the ringer. Ringer
got sharp folks there.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Broncos and the rankings of every NFL offense heading into
the season. If I told you the Broncos were fifteenth,
does that sound right?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Nope? Better or worse?
Speaker 6 (27:55):
I think they should be like twelve or twelve. Yeah,
I would have them closer to ten, eleven, twelve, right
around there.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
The team right behind them at sixteen is the Las
Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Yeah, too close to buddy, Buddy with that, that feels
that I don't think.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Well, again, you've got the best tight end in the division,
one of the best tight ends in the league. You've
got a running back who, in his small sample size
against twos and threes is running over people.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Don't. I don't know, Brett, I don't know. The team
ahead of them is the Texans at fourteen. What it right?
Top five? You could probably.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Guess Philly, Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore, Detroit, Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Is Baltimore is Philly.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Is not Philly is not a top five team.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Kansas City is off that offense, off offense.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Oh, I'm sorry that you mad.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Team of so Detroit is six. They're outside the top
five six for that.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, that's stupid.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
I don't want to hear this.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Bill's one Ravens two. I don't get this. That's stupid.
It's a ridiculous poll. Somebody needs to explain this one
to me, because I've seen a lot of people do this.
Smart You're you're the one who brought it up. No, No,
I've seen a lot a lot of smart people do this.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
People I respect in NFL circles that have set this
over and over again that I just don't see it.
Their number three offense on the Ringer again, people I respect.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I like people who work at the Ringer. I think
they're sharp.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Their number three offense in the NFL is the forty
nine ers, and I need that one to be explained in.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Detail, history, pedigree, lineage.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
But Kyle Shanahan's just gonna figure it out always in
forever sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
What they're looking at, I don't see.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
A I mean, they if they got McCaffrey healthy, they
still got Kittle, they still got Au, still got a
decent offensive line.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
But Party is going to lead the third best offense
in the league. Okay, I'll believe that when I see it.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Well, are Yukas out for like half the well not
even half the year? How long is he out for?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
He's gonna miss? Simple is what it is. Six weeks Okay,
unless you think Ricky Piersoll is some like Jem that's
about to break out and be amazing with no debo there, No.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
But Jawan jennings is is a pretty damn If they've
got Ayukin Jennings and Ricky Piersoll and Kittle then and
McCaffrey stays healthy. That's a pretty damn good offense.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Regarding regarding that poll, how can you not have.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
The Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles ranked in the top
five when they've proven I mean, you may not like
their offense, you may think it's weird that they move
the ball whenever they want to move the ball.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I would say probably because their greatest das set is
their defense, which was crazy, and then their offense scored
when they had two sort of things. Their offense was
like amazingly good last year. They needed like a late
eighty yard run from Saquan to get on top a
lot of times.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
How is Detroit not on that list?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Come on, Yeah, they get Detroit six, and they have
them behind Cincinnati at five, which is I think fine.
Here's another one, though people are doing the They have
green Bay at four. I'm gonna have to see the
green Bay stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, I guess that.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I gotta. I'm gonna have to see that one. Got
a lot of talented guys.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Green Bay is still by the way, do you guys
know this green Bay was the youngest team in the
NFL by far, one of the youngest in NFL history
two years ago. On offense, they're still the youngest this
year still because they end all of their wide outs
were like twenty one year old rulers.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Let me take one more little gander at those guys,
one more little one.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Starting quarterback who is Jordan Love? All right?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Running back Josh Jacobs pretty good, pretty damn good wide receiver,
Jalen Reed, Matthew Golden Romeo.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Oh, they've got some They've got some dudes.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Man at Tucker Craft tight end.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah. Like I said, I'm gonna they're good. Number four
offense in THEE.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I meant to see that one cause that feels a
lot like the same as Shanahan, Like, oh, Shanhani figured out.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It feels like oh Lafloral figured out. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
But you know what, maybe this is the optimism because
what you said is true. Jordan Love is growing with
those guys, and some of those guys made some catches
last year. Victor were going, Oh my god, look at
this guy, Like they have chemistry. They have big time
chemistry there.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
I think they're improve it mode. You got to prove
it to me.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, I mean it just to have them, do you
like Christian Watson, I understand my bias in this. To
have them two spots ahead of Detroit that put up
a bajillion points on teams last year, it seems like
a pretty tough sell to me.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
So again, can listen to us anywhere on the Altitude
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give you one of two options right now. You got
to put your money down on the Denver Broncos winning
their final pre season game, or Colorado Rockies beating the
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Dodgers again tonight. Where are you going the crapshoot of
the preseason football starters getting eight to ten snaps according
to Sean Payton this weekend or tonight the Rockies for
the second time in a row beat the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
What are you gonna do? I'm going pull on Broncos
me too.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Broncos have proven that their their backups are pretty damn good.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
They got the look at their numbers in the preseason.
They've got the best numbers in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Nelly record this way you play.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna predict that the Broncos backups are better
than the the Saints backups.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
That's my prediction.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
But do you think that the even the backups won't
get as much run and it'll be just sort of
third teamers and guys.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Let me all right, so let me ask you a
different one. Do you think Sean Payton in his return
in New Orleans will want to win that game?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Well, he already put a spanking on him last year.
I mean, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
What did they won that game? Like thirty eight to
six last year or something.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
I don't know if he really cares. I don't I don't
know if he really cares. Its probably always nice to
go there to the super Dome and get a dub. Though,
I would say the Broncos have the better chance because
you know he's on the hill tonight for the Rocks.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
Austin Gomber, the nibbler is on the hill.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Is he gonna nibble his way two.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
And six with the six seven five era that's.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
He's been nibbling.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I have a feeling that this could be out of
control by the sixth inning.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I believe my Rocks. Where's the six to seven? They're
on a hot streak.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I mean, yeah, his white most You're gonna be down
two in the bottom of the eighth and here come
the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
It's gonna be my prediction.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Can you explain the Milwaukee Brewers to me?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
They're a good team, got some dudes. What would you like?
What would you like me to explain? I just can't
lose it's players.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, there is, I'm telling you right now. There is
something that's magical about I know.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It's been a while when you get on a run,
but when a baseball team gets on a run like that, God,
is it fun to watch? Really fun? Seven out? Yeah,
that win.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
But it's not It's not like, you know, we've watched
the Nuggets rattle off ten, eleven, twelve game win streaks.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
It's like, that's cool, but it's it's like when it's baseball.
I don't know why. It just feels different, doesn't it.
We do a little math.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
No, hey, uh, the run differential between the Milwaukee Brewers,
who are best in the league and they.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Cut her out of Rockies to the worst than the league.
What's the running for Why are you bring up some
older again? The Rockies have won sixty seven older between them.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Let's see, the Rockies are up three hundred something. I'd
say the difference would be five hundred and twenty runs.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Close, it's four hundred and ninety four.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
That's through through the this point in August, it's four
it's five hundred runs. Why why can't I just to
enjoy a couple of seconds. Why can't I just be like, yeah,
the Rockies are playing some fun baseball.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Before you like, oh, well, the different well the April
it does just stop.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
It does throw some things into perspective. Jack, It's pretty crazy.
My perspective is the last week. That's my perspective of
rocket and your myopic.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
And you know what, in the last week, the Rockies
are World Series contender. You're obtuse, intentionally obtuse, which is
better than just being abduce.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You know, I'm looking at their lineup. Yellis has got
twenty five Jacks hitting two sixty five. Uh, the right
fielders hitting almost three hundred.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
You got some dudes there. They're just kind of doing
it as a team.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Most by the way, I don't know if this this
could be like just a shoulder shrug that you don't
know Alex ganne to year entry level contract, got anything
for me? He's a guy, Okay, you don't. Okay, that's
fine though.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I mean he was a captain of New Hampshire. But
it's fine.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I just I wondered if you had any like inside dope?
Is this guy got some potential?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Who will be a guy to help out with the
Eagles and whatnot?
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Okay, got kan of all time? All right?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Eric Ganya, Eric Gany, hold on, Sam Ganye, lights out, Kanye.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
I got you a different I got you wore the glasses,
the rexpecs whatever, that's fine. Do you remember the old
mean Gene Oakland days of wrestling. There was a Gangye
in the wrestling ranks in the seventies and early eighties
who was pretty badass.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
I think his name was Brett Ganye.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Oh so you don't even remember his name. That's how
famous he was.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Huh, pretty badass guy that you don't remember his name.
There's really not a lot of gangy is out there.
I mean, Eric is the guy and that's that's the one.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
But Sam Ganye the hockey player has an R at
the end of his name. So I don't you know?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
What do you want? What do you want to do
about that?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
It's gang ye, but there's not just an E with
the thing over it. There's an R hanging out at
the very end to know, what do you do?
Speaker 7 (38:19):
He was born in nineteen twenty six. His name is Vern.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Okay, I just looked up. Let me tell you, king
of the sleeper hold? Why do we take all the crap?
Let me tell you of the sleeper hold?
Speaker 6 (38:35):
Dude, where would we be without the guy who invented
the sleeper hold?
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Is the most famous Gagnie of all time.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
I'm out for a second. He's not. It's Eric No.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Kevy likes Simone ganye, the former Philadelphia Flyer. I like
that too, so Simone Gan ye.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
He was an All Star by the way, in in
two thousand and one. Here in Denver, Vern gangne as.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I'm looking at a picture of him that is probably
from the nineteen thirties. He's doing the classic old wrestler pose. Okay,
this thing, yeah, where he's got the what it's not
like a speed of whatever that thing is that they
that the wrestler's wearing trunks and he's doing this and
I'm telling you right now, I've seen fifteen guys at
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a family cookout that looked like that in the.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well, you can say what you want.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
His son, Greg was a member of the High Flyers,
the tag team wrestling squad Jim Brunzell and Greg Gangne.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
No, Nelly, this island is. It's got the shoulder straps
that go over the top too.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Oh, you're just talking about like.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
The just he's just got the diaper thing.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
The women these days would call those booty shorts rock
and booty shorts doing this pose.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
And I'm telling you right now that man was every
one of my friend's dads in high school cooking.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Up a steak. Well, you can think of what you want.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
One of the reasons, how the heck did we get
onto ganye is anyway?
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Bright brought up Ganye.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Why are you bringing up Ganya when you know he's
gonna do this crap? Why are you doing it? I
asked Moser a hockey question, to his answer being oh,
Alex Ganya.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah, So that's how I got that I was doing
my job correctly, Brett.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
He's a depth guy for the organization. Okay, that's all
I wanted to know if it was somebody I shall attention.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
He was drafted by the Lightning about five years ago,
four years ago, never signed with him. Played all of
his career at New Hampshire. In terms of college career,
was their captain, big old defenseman at six foot five,
stay at home kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
One thing you learned from that conversation. Kids, you put
some respect on vering Gania's name. Also, look up Eric,
we know gane that's everybody knows him. We know Greg Shy, Yeah,
we know them all lights out, you understand.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Anyway, Vic, you were talking about Sports center anchors earlier.
They brought Rich eisen Mack for an episode of Sports
Center last and it's my.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
It's it's the Sports Center that I think we would
all take if they grew up with that.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
We all grew up with different errors of Sports Center hosts.
And you know, I've got my top five of my
favorite of all time. But I thought Rich eisen Man
he was so good last night when he paid homage
to his former partner Steve Scott. And here's a little
bit of what he said at the end of that
Sports Center that he hosted for the first time in
twenty years. Okay, Steve Nelson is on top of it.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
He's talking to the kid.
Speaker 9 (41:44):
Yeah, so we have some esteemed company Vic, and I'm
just letting him know about the business. So if you
have anything you'd like to China, don't.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Worry about the show. Don't worry about us.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
I mean you're doing no, I'm not listening to this.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
If you have Rich Eisen please Rich Eisen on Sports
centerlized my bad.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
For inspiring the youth of America here to go.
Speaker 10 (42:03):
There should be someone else right here in this chair
next to me, right there as he was for my
seven years in the role he referred to as my
TV wife. And that's my dear late friend Stuart Scott,
who is indeed looking over my shoulder tonight. I frequently
think of Stuart a lot, and what he might think
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of the sports headlines of the day, like say, Bill
Belichick being the head football coach at his beloved school.
We used to host sports centers after Lebron's high school games.
So what would Stuart think of James still playing at
age forty with forty thousand points and with all these
new crossing of sports TV streams, like say ESPN buying
NFL Network and partnering up with My Daily Show. What
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would it look like if Stuart sat in with say
Ernie Shack, Kenny and Charles when Inside the NBA comes
here to ESPN this fall. I could go on and
on because I miss Stuart so very much. She should
be in that chair with me with us tonight.
Speaker 6 (43:05):
Again, very touching tribute from rich Isisend last night. Who
was a fill in host? And it just jogs my memory?
Top five all time? Olberman, Patrick, Kenny Maine, Stuve, Scott
and Van Pelt.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
What he was there at the SPS.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
We all remember Valvano's speech, but Stuart with his daughters
were there.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Oh my god, oh boy. I mean that was really
that was really tough. What was your era, Brett? Who
was your era of Sports Center? Because you don't have
generational eras, who's yours?
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Kenny Maine, Kenny Maine, John Anderson, Neil Everette, you know
all those guys, And honestly, like I really don't know
why they don't go back to it, Like if if
it's just one one version of Sports Center where it's
just all the highlights, you do it just like you
(44:00):
used to do it like even hearing the music. The
music when they did that with Eisen yesterday was like, yep,
that one. I want that one, not the All right,
here's the highlight from the game. Now we go over
to Kendrick Perkins for five minutes. What did you think
of Shay's thirty five points? It's like, I just do
the highlight thing.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
I don't mean that I do miss just seeing an
in depth highlight package.
Speaker 7 (44:21):
Like if you miss the game, just show me everything
I missed.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Baseball was dead on that network the second they took
away Baseball tonight.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
The second that was gone, I didn't get my web gems.
I didn't get any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
It was over. It was you knew it. Writing was
on the wall. Who was the guy?
Speaker 6 (44:34):
That was Hawaiian Larry Larry Beale, Larry beal Away? Is
he really Aloha means goodbye? That was Larry Beale? Right,
I don't remember Larry beal Yeah, he would say what
on a home r A Loha means goodbye? He was
a There were a bunch of you know, we went
through the era of really serious, like Bob Lee was
really serious, Charlie Steiner was really serious.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Bobb Ley I'm sorry what I respect him as a journalist.
Whenever he was on the TV, it was like it's no, no,
thank you, no thank you. I it just felt like
he was talking at me. Okay, that's what it felt like.
He was on that show. What was it called? Was
it the Sports Reporters or the Outsiders or something like that.
(45:18):
He was on that show and it's like, really good
in depth sports journalism. That's not you. I said, no,
not for me.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Vic, I got one for you that gets forgotten. He
passed away unexpectedly.
Speaker 7 (45:34):
I know you're going I know exactly what you're gonna say.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
Tom me So I when I worked in tom Mes
was good bro, good bro. When I when I when
I graduated, I worked at a fellowship in New York
City and I went out to Bristol, uh, just to visit.
At that time, you know, they would show you around
and I got to hang out with tom Mees for
like an hour just to watch what he did.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
And he was so cool, such a good dude. What
a tragic passing for him. Then he dined in swimming
pool at well he drowned.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, alright, Nelly fact checker.
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Speaker 2 (46:22):
I'm sorry, Nelly, just quickly. I just remember Bob Lee
being like the investigation into the NFL's and I was like, Nope, no,
whatever you're gonna say next is not for my ears.
As soon as the word investigation is brought up the channel,
who cares bro last night?
Speaker 9 (46:41):
Go ahead, and Nelly, well, I wasn't listening to the
show five minutes ago, but I was listening earlier when
Vic told us about a problem he had with his vespa,
and you know who troubleshot? It was his twelve year
old nephew, I believe. He said, here, here's the problem
you had.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Due you're gonna burn that motor up with no oil
in it. Man, what are you doing?
Speaker 7 (47:00):
I did not know that you had to have oil
all the time.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
What for God's sake?
Speaker 7 (47:05):
What do you mean you didn't? I thought you just
sort of give it to it a little bit anyway.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, just just a little, just a little taste.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Ic free bit of advice. Put oil in your motor. Vehicles.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Hey, just keep it happy, right, you don't spoil it?
Speaker 7 (47:18):
Just hey, hey turn on no what that oil?
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Ain't got no oiolated? You ain't got no gash. Let
me let me say something right now. I got one
more impression for you. You want to know how fast
my finger hits the channel change button. Hello, Welcome outside
the lines. I'm Jeremy Shap. That's all tough for me,
And I was like, done you got? I like Jeremy Shapp.
(47:47):
It is that show not for me?
Speaker 3 (47:49):
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Speaker 2 (47:52):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
All right, hey on, hay On, there is to me.
It's shocking.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
If anybody is paying attention to the Week two matchup
that the Broncos have, because Moser is already declared, not
only is Week one against the Tennessee Titans going to
be a victory, it is going to be a win
that backups will be in in the second half. That's
how Moser feels that the Tennessee game is going to
go to open the season.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
The next week they do.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
What you want a proclamation. Bo Nitch will be wearing
a baseball cap. Okay, that is a dub.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
The next week, the Broncos go on the road for
a game that we all thought was going to be
a w as well.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
We assumed better team than Tennessee. But it's at Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
While a decision has been made, according to Adam Schefter
and Stephen Holder, the Colts have just named Daniel Jones
their starting quarterback over Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Let's get weird.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Huh, Danny Dimes seems to be more fit for their offense.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So they're done with Anthony Richardson. They've said this is over,
this is so much. After a couple of years, we're
done with this pretty much, no more.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I don't hold a hot time out. You realize he's
two years younger than Bonnick's. Yeah, he's only twenty three
years old.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I think he entered the NFL at twenty.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
He just turned twenty three. Yeah, okay, a couple months ago.
He's still very very young. Vic I challenge you right now.
I don't think I know the answer.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But I might know the answer.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
How many how many games did he play in college
at Florida Richardson?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I think it was like thirteen years.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I say that's twelve, Okay, I think it's twelve total games.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I mean, he's still a very young guy.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
If I'm the Indianapolis Colts, I have absolutely no problem
throwing Danny Dimes, who's twenty.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Eight twenty four games? He played twenty four?
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Did he really?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh my bad?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I have no problem throwing him as the backup and
let him, I mean, let him learn some more. I
guess if he's you know, if he's gonna be a future.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Guy for you. Sorry most year credit he played in
twenty four games. He had twelve starts. There you go,
That's that's what I meant.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Here's the thing. Can I ask a question regarding Anthony Richardson?
He has raw talent, like we've seen Nelly, if you
can find it? Can you find Week one last year
he had a touchdown pass that was like an eighty
yard just ripped. Do you guys remember this? Yeah, his
arm the first of the year last year. See if
you can find it and pull it up behind me.
If you do, Nelly, was he done the second he
(03:07):
tapped out of that game?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Midway through last year?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You guys remember that when he went off, he went
off for a scramble, tapped his helmet and said, I
need to breathe. I remember that, and then ever since then,
the Colts were like, it felt like they were done
with him right then and there, right because there was
a whole bunch of backstory. And then I think they
played Flacco a little bit after that, they gave him
the starting job.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think that they were done with him midway through
the year after he did that.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Well, here are is numbers against the Broncos last year
in that game in Denver. You remember, Anthony Richardson was
seventeen to thirty eight, zero touchdowns, two picks that same game.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
That game was like a seven point game with like
ten minutes left, by the way, that was the game.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Jonathan Taylor gave the ball back right before crossing the
end zone.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
You remember that, Yes, and they had the double reverse
pass that was picked off by Benito.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Indy was up in that game with a chance to
take a pretty good lead, and Jonathan Taylor says, Eh,
you gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Have the ball.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
I don't, I don't need it.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I gotta see this throw again. This is a want
it this from week one last year. I want you guys,
let's all watch this for a second. Just look what
this arm can do.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
Stumble.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He's in the middle, he's backing up like against his body,
and he chucked it that looked like from the thirty
yard line to the end zone and to the end
zone like with his weight back and not not even
stepping into it like raw talent, raw talent.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Though Bonnicks threw a sixty seven yard Yeah, it wasn't
like that though.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
This This this is a guy's off balance falling backward vic,
I don't you know, I just.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
To move on that quickly. Gosh, that's gotta hurt. That's
really got it hurt. I don't even know that they're
moving on.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I just think you don't start Daniel Jones to give
him the job back? Probably right, I mean, I guess
you can say that kind of happened last year in
Carolina with Bryce Young, where they gave what he was Dalton, right,
Dalton a few starts and then gave him the job back,
and Bryce Young played better. But it's very rare that
you're like, I'm Week one, I'm starting somebody else than
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my young quarterback who's.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Had a couple of years in the league.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Who's the best, who's the best rehab project quarterback wise
that you could think of?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Donalds Donald's got a pretty good He's got a pretty
good one going on. Rich Cannon became became.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
An m v P in in Oakland.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, he did. That's a good question. Tex Kansas, Texas,
help us out, help us out. Who would you consider,
like the the guy who was young quarterback that was
giving up on they got a second opportunity in capt Baker.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Could they consider Baker Mayfield a great example one. I mean, listen,
he the Browns wanted him gone. All he did was
unlock all the beer joints or all the beer what
do you call all the beer coolers in Cleveland? He
had locked them all, right with that win. And you
know on two days notice he goes to l a right.
Remember he went in and filled in for the Rams
(06:02):
two days notice. Played his butt off.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Some people listening to Drew Brees.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Drew Brees was a pretty damn good quarterback when he
was in San Diego, and Sean Payne just took him
next level.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, breeze, breeze, Wasn't it? More like people were concerned
with his shoulder?
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Yeah, he had an injury. John Lynch caused it. John
Lynch hit him in the end zone, jacked up his shoulder.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Alex Smith is a good one. Gino Geno's got a
case for it. He came back from the Jets start
those few years in Seattle, became a starting quarterback again.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I feel like we're missing someone though, too. I feel
like we're missing somebody that should be even more obvious
to us.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
Rich Gannon became an MVP of the league.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He was a backup to MVP.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Yeah, Kurt Warner. Someone says Kurt Warner was different. That
Kurt Warner was.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Was the rags to riches. He made a movie. He
was never was that became somebody. Right. He wasn't a washout.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
It's not like he came into the league much balllyhooed
and washed out.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
That wasn't the case.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I got a couple, I got a couple. Goff, would
you consider golf that say? Uh, the Rams kind of
gave up on him.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, but he was traded. He was traded. I mean
he was.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
He was a dude for dude, not hey, we'll bring you.
They brought him in as a starter there in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Brett Ryan Tannehill when he went to Tennessee and took
him to the AFC Championship game. He had a couple
of really good years in Tennessee. I think that's the
one that decent.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Decent is the word.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But if you're looking at these guys, who.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Was the first gime we're just talking about, because I'm thinking,
let's say, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, these guys are they they haven't even had a shot.
I mean, you were talking about Donald first.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Do any of these guys have a chance and Anthony Richardson,
any of these guys have a chance at a reclamation
project at all. Because I tell you what, if I'm
Zach Wilson and I realize I'm behind Tua, I've got
a feel that I'm going to get some pretty good
opportunities to get in the game and get some snaps
this year.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I'm I'm so glad we aren't in this space anymore,
because we certainly were for about a decade.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But if you're.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
If you're the Jets, they don't have a young quarterback
on their roster. They have justin fields that they're trying
to do this with. What are you willing to part
with to take a flyer on Anthony Richardson former or
what was he sixth overall? Something like that, fourth overall
or something?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I think I think, just to make it a bigger party,
I think Cleveland should sign him.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
God, that'd be funny, that would be really funny. But
do you do you go like mos?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You seem to like the potential of what Richard said.
He's huge, he's athletic, he's got a strong RM. He
looks like an Adonis. Would you give up a third
for him.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
No, if you're one of these teams that's that doesn't
have a quarterback, like you're that stupid.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Let me let me admit, Let me, let me admit something.
I asked MOJ. I think, MOJ might I speak for him?
I love arms, I love I know you do. I
love most might give up a third for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I love watching guys just drop back and hook the football.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It does something to me. So I might. I might.
It depends on my situation.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
But he's still I think the key here, boys is
that he's not twenty seven, right, he's twenty three years old.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
He just turned twenty three. Yeah, he's still a baby.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I mean, you get I guess I'm like every other
stupid GM in the in the NFL. Man, if I
get my hands on him, if I get my guy's
hands on him, I can make him something.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So let's go through this again. You always talk about
getting a hot start to the season. You want to
start the season off well, get the vibes up, get
the juices flowing.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Your first two matchups.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Sorry, number one draft pick and Cam Ward who plays
for a very very bad football team, who's going on
the road against one of the league's best defenses.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And who just got in a fight at camp with
his defensive line, one of his defensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
The second we you have Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Weeks three, four, and five get a lot more difficult
because then it's Herbert Burrow in Jalen Hurts, and then
after that it's justin fields and I think maybe Russell Wilson.
It's like you have sandwiched two fairly easy quarterback matchups,
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three really tough ones to two easy ones. Again, not
the worst sort of start if you can steal kind
of one in the middle.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Not the worst, you know, In the last twenty five years,
the Denver Broncos have drafted how many quarterbacks in the
first round.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Think about this for a second.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
How many quarterbacks drafted.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
In the first round?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Paxton ly, Paxton Tebow, Tebow jobs, j Cutler four four right,
Bonnix is still under wraps, Axcell Lynch washed out. They
traded the other two guys. They traded Cutler in Tiba.
Do you remember what they got for you? The fact
that they got stuff back for Tebow?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
What did they know what they got for Teba?
Speaker 7 (11:05):
They traded him to the Jets for a fourth and
a sixth round pick.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Okay, Cutler was traded to the Bears.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
What they get for cutting Look at this, They got
Kyle Orton. They got Kyle Orton along with two first
round picks?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah? Who, but Cutler was here's the difference to Culer
could play, but they got two of them. Cutler could play. Like.
That's the thing with Richardson.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Richardson ain'tetting that because Richardson has not proven whatever you thought.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Again, the most Richardson would get is a sixth round
for sixth, No way, he.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Was fourth overall, it'd be more than that. Again, he's
twenty three years old. Man, he's still young. He's still
very young.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
What did the Broncos. What did the Broncos trade for
Zach Wilson?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It was pick swap. It was like a sixth or seventh.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
So you mean to tell me that that Anthony Richardson
has shown you more than what Zach Wilson showed you
with the Jets.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah? Nothing for him, dude, nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I got a hard time believing. And I think it's
just I think it's more than just his arm or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I think it's the athletics, the athleticism and his size.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
VI.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You might be right. You might be if I bring
up this name from the three oh eight eight, what
do you think? What do you think? People think? Ready?
Pretty good reclamation project.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
After a stint with the Patriots and the forty nine ers, let.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
Me think about this whole time a second. After a
stint with the Patriots and the forty.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Nine ers, this guy went to another team and won
a super Bowl and a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Who we take, Patriots and forty nine ers? Patriots first,
then forty nine ers. Yeah, but it's old school. Oh well,
that's what I'm Steve. Why are you making fun of me? Dude?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Steve Grogan had the last neck Dawson that that guy
could take a bite and it wouldn't hit his stomach
for twenty minutes. That's how long that guy's that.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You're gonna say. Jimmy G.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I mean, Jimmy G went from the Patriots to San
Francisco and made the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Who is it? Jim Plunkett he's started with this. I
didn't know he started with the Patriots. Yeah, he started
with the Patriots. I never guess that.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Yeah, Jim Plunkett Brogan's neck, dude, look at that all right?
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Now, show me Plunkett's face, Well, just a big old face.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Why do you want to make fun?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And he wore that tiny little dude, I was just
a kid when the Raiders won the.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Super Bowl, would plunk it over the over Ron Jaworski
and the Philadelphia Eagles. I hated Jim Plunkett because the
Broncos and Raiders at that's an all time.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
But Jim Plunkett was was a flame sort of a
flame er out there he is and uh he won
the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
For God's sake, it stays. That's not even the helmet,
that's that's hairspray did. Like how would that save you?
Look at look at that helmet, Like if you got
hit in the ear hole like those quarterbacks did back
in the day, that helmet doesn't help you.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Lose an ear. The face mask is a chin strap.
How does he not break his nose? Like every week? Man,
that's insane.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
I was looking at I always go down this.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Remember the guy you remember the dude you guys were
telling me about that wore no helmet In the mid nineties, Actually.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
There was a theory on that you want to prevent
concussions in the National Football League somebody, somebody wrote a
paper on let them play without helmets.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You know it's safer to do bare knuckle boxing instead
of putting on the gloves too.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, well no, but you wouldn't have crowded the helmet
stuff to worry about because nobody.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Oh, you know, you're right, there's no psychopaths in the
NFL to snap their next to make a hit. You
kidding me?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You think you think.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Guys are gonna barrel down the field with the crown
of their helmet if they're not head, if they're not
wearing a helmet.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Vic if I asked you if you had no knowledge
of what happened previously in the NHL, and I said
you don't you really think that guys would not wear
a helmet and sit in front of a slap shot
wear that off the face?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Dude.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
The craziest thing is the same thing, Brett, Brett stop.
I want you to remember there was a time there
was an era were hockey goaldies did not wear masks.
I know.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And you guys are telling me that if you remove
the helmets that listening football players aren't going to be sieges.
I don't worry with you.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
I want you to sit there and close your eyes
and imagine yourself inside hockey goal with slapshots coming at you,
and you're not wearing a mask.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I played third base, same thing. I didn't have a mask,
Same thing, I wore one off the face. What are
you talking about anyway?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Uh? Three or three? Five? Four oh nine? Two five?
It reminds me Brian Cushing. You remember that crazy man.
You think if you didn't put out on him, he
wouldn't still stick his nose into somebody, please, but he
probably would.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
All right?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Back after this, rapidly approaching live football this weekend, starting
on Friday, Valor taking on Pine Creek, and it's going
to be Nate and Tyler on a TV simulcast.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
By the way, Altitude TV.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That'll be at seven o'clock on Friday Saturday morning, ten am.
The opener to the college football season from Dublin, Iowa
State in Kansas State. Two ranked teams, Big twelve teams.
Implications for CEU's upcoming season on the line. By the way,
speaking of said, I saw this earlier on ESPN. They
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had fine mom on first take with the headline shot.
SEC schools called theon regardless of Colorado season outcome, it's
I don't know what that means regardless of their season outcome.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I mean, like, he finishes zero to twelve and they
should still call.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
First of all, he has a contract and it's a
pretty large buyout. Remember when they ye, well they announced
all that.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
He's making ten million year. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I think the ESPN just regurgitates stuff for the hell
of it. You put Sanders on the air and it
becomes why would you even report a story like that?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Season eddying?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I have no idea what to expect out of the
cu Buffs this year?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Do you guys?
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
And it leads me to the question I wanted to ask,
because regardless of the outcome is a wild thing to say,
we have like some expectations for the Broncos. They have
to make the playoffs again, and I think for most
people winning a playoff game is the logical next step
for you to be like successful season?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
What does that look like for SeeU?
Speaker 7 (17:50):
No idea.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You don't know what you would consider a success as
of right now.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
I don't know what they are. I mean does anybody?
I don't know what they are. Who's first of all
is juju gonna play quarterback? Is getting Salter?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Who's the quarterback? Well? Both.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Here's what gets web Here's what gets weird with college now.
I don't think anybody really knows what their team's going
to be.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's a good point.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Everybody's team is brand new. You need to have expectations.
Outside of that, it's easier and others. It's easier with
the Nuggets because we know the players. It's easier with
the Broncos, we know them. It's easier with the Ahs,
we know them.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yeah, but this one's different because they lose two perennial players.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
They lost two guys who had their jerseys retired.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Well, and with that vic it's what kind of team?
What kind of echelon do you want them to be?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
In?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Ohio State lost really good players last year, Michigan lost
really good players. Georgia Bama they lost really good players.
But they still have the same expectations.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Mm hm, So I think what should see you be?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
I think they're asking can they reach the level of
those teams where you just get new good studs in.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, that's the the imperative in college athletics.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
They're not going to find another Travis Hunter. But it
seems to me the transfer from Liberty and the and
the freshmen are pretty damn good players. So I mean,
I I don't know if the expectation should be I
would love the expectations should be that you pick up
right where you left off and there's no big deal.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Like here's here's this. If they aren't with a couple
of weeks left in the conversation for a Big twelve
title game, is that? Is that not successful?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I will be bummed out if we hit week ten.
It's like, well, they're too far back, they can't make it.
I don't think that's something you live with. I really don't.
I think you should expect more regardless based on what
based on ten million dollar head coach.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Okay, so are you certain that this is a team
like you just mentioned Ohio State, you mentioned Michigan, Alabama.
Those are replenishment programs. Yes, the expectations are this. You
know that program is going to replenish every year. Is
SeeU finished program?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yet?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Well?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
See that's vic. That's what That's what I'm getting at
with Brett. It'll be great if they were Brett. That's
all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
When you pay a coach that kind of money. See,
you might have different ways to value success. Part of
the ten million dollars they paid Dion was what attention
on the program, merchandise getting out of state people to
come to their school because Dion's there, I'm going to
target to.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You, Brett, He's already paid for himself. Okay, but hang on,
that's part of why they pay them. I don't care
how much money they make.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
If I have a ten million dollar head coach in
my state, I want that coach to produce at a
ten million dollar level. I'm not asking him to be Bama. Okay,
I know they aren't going to do that. But to
be competitive and be in the conversation for a big
Big twelve title every year should absolutely be the standard.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
With that, I got another topic and talk to see
you and CSU in a moment. But Betty nods from FanDuel,
Where do you think SeeU ranks right now? Betty nods
to win the Big twelve Championship.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I'll go down the list.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Oh, they're probably high because they're going to get a
lot of money on them.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
I would say, no, third, not even close. Yeah, I
was gonna say they're probably like eighth, Kansas State and
Utah and Texas Tech all tie to plus five fifty,
Top three, Arizona State plus six hundred, Baylor plus six fifty,
TCU plus eight fifty, Iowa State plus twelve hundred, Kansas
plus fifteen hundred, BYU plus twenty three hundred, and then Colorado.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Plus three thousand.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I'm actually surprised by that, just because I thought people would.
It's like when people would put money on the Lakers
to win every year the NBA champions.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
You mentioned the coach. You're putting money on coaches. Yeah,
and that's the ability to replenish the cupboard.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Okay, I'll give you how about this. I'll give you
another example, one that I know a lot better. There
were years I knew Nebraska was not going to be good,
but Nebraska's money and their odds to win the Big
Ten would always be high because a lot of people
would bet on Nebraska frombra that they'd be better, and
I knew they weren't going to be that. I knew
that they weren't Ohio State, but the odds did not
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match up with their team because they had a lot
of money on them.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I mean, I just think the betting public is saying
we don't believe it. I mean, you lose Shador and
you lose the Heisman Trophy winner, You're gonna have a
regression big time.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I mean, they finished.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Really fourth in the Big Twelve last year in terms
of overall record, but they were tied with the three
teams in front of them inside the conference at seven
and two.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Right, yeah, I'm looking at how I want to believe.
I want to believe.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I want J Norvil and company to have a double
digit win season. I want I want some ten wins
for the Ramies.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Speaking of that, I hate to go down this road again,
but it just sucks most.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Do you remember a few years.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Back when see you and CSU got it on first
game of the season, maybe the second at that point,
I don't remember, and they played down at.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
The skame with the third week the last couple of years, well, there.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Was a few years ago.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Mosier nine got down there and we took the VESTPA
and we went tailgating before the game, and it's all
we talked about that week was the game I barfed,
you barfed on a lamb chop. The fact that that
that game, that game all right, So this year, see
you opens up against Georgia Tech.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
That'll be hell of a game too. At Colorado that's
hell of a game.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
CSU opens up against Washington, that's a hell of a challenge.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
CSU does THEIRS on Saturday, August thirtieth.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
SeeU does THEIRS on the twenty ninth.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
But man, do I miss ceuc issue already already and
you cannot tell me it's not talked about. It's not
hyped up because we hyped it up every time we
all did, and it's gone.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I have so many fund memories of going to that game.
No matter where it's held, well, it's it fullsome whether
it's up at Colorado State, Cambas, Mile High, it's just
a lot of fun memories.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
I mean, I'll just ask you.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
A CSU opens up against Washington again, the hell of
a freaking challenge.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
See you open up.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Against Georgia Tech. Are we more interested in those games
or if they played each other?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
If they played each other, well of course, yeah, so
why aren't they playing each other? I do not possess
the answers you're looking for.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I think the Rams can be a ten win team.
They cannot win at Washington on the thirtieth. They cannot.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
There's a lot of games they can win.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Though there's a lot of games the Ramies can get
it done. And that Boise State game toward the end
of the year always scares me. The Air Force game
always scares me because.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
They finished strong last year. They found their stride.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
They did Texas.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Jay Norvel mentioned this year they're trying to get Colorado
on the schedule for next season.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, whatever it takes, do it. But any I don't
think it's CSU's choice.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
No, No, it's it's about what CEU wants to do.
But again, I the expectation thing is hard to get
your mind wrapped around because it's hard for really any team.
But I will say, when your coach is making the
amount of money that he's making, and the textra says
that they don't have the money that the other teams
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do to be competitive year in year out. They got
enough money to pay their their head coach that much,
but they don't they don't need. Here's the other thing
I would I would say, they aren't competing with Georgia,
they aren't competing with Michigan.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
And Ohio the state.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Yeah, but they are competing with Kansas And did you
see what that Kansas alum just did?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Three hundred million.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Dollars the largest gift ever.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
I think his name is David Booth.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
They named the stadium after him, and the rest of
them money is going to nil.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Bam, what was it for sports? Yeah? But what you
give in sports? Here you go. So most of it's
towards the stadium, like a stadium contribution.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Well they redid the stadium.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Yeah, so he pretty much has his name all over then,
and the rest of it is earmarked for athletics.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
The have you seen have you seen the new Kansas Stadium?
Have you seen all the stuff?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It says rock chalk in seats at the time. I mean,
it looks pretty impressive to me.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I'm trying to figure out you guys have asked me
this before. But if I was I was a guy
who owned a yacht, I had that kind of money when.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I tossed like twelve million year my good old Uno
Mavericks to get Derek Jeter to coach him what I
do it, and he wouldn't do it for twelve million
a year though.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
But I can't do that because my boy's coaching right now,
my former teammates head coach right now, I can't ask him.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
The million Are you earning.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
The three hundred million dollars? This guy's an asset manager.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
What the hell that is.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
From Austin, Texas?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Fake?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
The largest single gift in the history of college athletics,
not just Kansas. Nowhere in the history of college athletics
has there been a single gift this large. Not even
t Boon Pickens eclipse that number at Oklahoma State. That's
how big of a donation that was to the athletics department.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Hey, but if you'd take inflation in bet at the time,
Pickens' donation was probably more.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Maybe so.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, yeah, they might not be that but Kelly suck. Yeah,
Kelly got to get back on Kelly.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Hey, just quickly. The ringer, I like the ringer. Ringer
got sharp folks there.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Broncos and the rankings of every NFL offense heading into
the season. If I told you the Broncos were fifteenth,
does that sound right?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Nope? Better or worse?
Speaker 6 (27:55):
I think they should be like twelve or twelve. Yeah,
I would have them closer to ten, eleven, twelve, right
around there.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
The team right behind them at sixteen is the Las
Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Yeah, too close to buddy, Buddy with that, that feels
that I don't think.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Well, again, you've got the best tight end in the division,
one of the best tight ends in the league. You've
got a running back who, in his small sample size
against twos and threes is running over people.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Don't. I don't know, Brett, I don't know. The team
ahead of them is the Texans at fourteen. What it right?
Top five? You could probably.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Guess Philly, Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore, Detroit, Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Is Baltimore is Philly.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Is not Philly is not a top five team.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Kansas City is off that offense, off offense.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Oh, I'm sorry that you mad.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Team of so Detroit is six. They're outside the top
five six for that.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, that's stupid.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
I don't want to hear this.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Bill's one Ravens two. I don't get this. That's stupid.
It's a ridiculous poll. Somebody needs to explain this one
to me, because I've seen a lot of people do this.
Smart You're you're the one who brought it up. No, No,
I've seen a lot a lot of smart people do this.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
People I respect in NFL circles that have set this
over and over again that I just don't see it.
Their number three offense on the Ringer again, people I respect.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I like people who work at the Ringer. I think
they're sharp.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Their number three offense in the NFL is the forty
nine ers, and I need that one to be explained in.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Detail, history, pedigree, lineage.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
But Kyle Shanahan's just gonna figure it out always in
forever sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
What they're looking at, I don't see.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
A I mean, they if they got McCaffrey healthy, they
still got Kittle, they still got Au, still got a
decent offensive line.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
But Party is going to lead the third best offense
in the league. Okay, I'll believe that when I see it.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Well, are Yukas out for like half the well not
even half the year? How long is he out for?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
He's gonna miss? Simple is what it is. Six weeks Okay,
unless you think Ricky Piersoll is some like Jem that's
about to break out and be amazing with no debo there, No.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
But Jawan jennings is is a pretty damn If they've
got Ayukin Jennings and Ricky Piersoll and Kittle then and
McCaffrey stays healthy. That's a pretty damn good offense.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Regarding regarding that poll, how can you not have.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
The Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles ranked in the top
five when they've proven I mean, you may not like
their offense, you may think it's weird that they move
the ball whenever they want to move the ball.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I would say probably because their greatest das set is
their defense, which was crazy, and then their offense scored
when they had two sort of things. Their offense was
like amazingly good last year. They needed like a late
eighty yard run from Saquan to get on top a
lot of times.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
How is Detroit not on that list?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Come on, Yeah, they get Detroit six, and they have
them behind Cincinnati at five, which is I think fine.
Here's another one, though people are doing the They have
green Bay at four. I'm gonna have to see the
green Bay stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, I guess that.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I gotta. I'm gonna have to see that one. Got
a lot of talented guys.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Green Bay is still by the way, do you guys
know this green Bay was the youngest team in the
NFL by far, one of the youngest in NFL history
two years ago. On offense, they're still the youngest this
year still because they end all of their wide outs
were like twenty one year old rulers.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Let me take one more little gander at those guys,
one more little one.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Starting quarterback who is Jordan Love? All right?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Running back Josh Jacobs pretty good, pretty damn good wide receiver,
Jalen Reed, Matthew Golden Romeo.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Oh, they've got some They've got some dudes.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Man at Tucker Craft tight end.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah. Like I said, I'm gonna they're good. Number four
offense in THEE.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I meant to see that one cause that feels a
lot like the same as Shanahan, Like, oh, Shanhani figured out.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It feels like oh Lafloral figured out. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
But you know what, maybe this is the optimism because
what you said is true. Jordan Love is growing with
those guys, and some of those guys made some catches
last year. Victor were going, Oh my god, look at
this guy, Like they have chemistry. They have big time
chemistry there.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
I think they're improve it mode. You got to prove
it to me.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, I mean it just to have them, do you
like Christian Watson, I understand my bias in this. To
have them two spots ahead of Detroit that put up
a bajillion points on teams last year, it seems like
a pretty tough sell to me.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
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give you one of two options right now. You got
to put your money down on the Denver Broncos winning
their final pre season game, or Colorado Rockies beating the
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Dodgers again tonight. Where are you going the crapshoot of
the preseason football starters getting eight to ten snaps according
to Sean Payton this weekend or tonight the Rockies for
the second time in a row beat the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
What are you gonna do? I'm going pull on Broncos
me too.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Broncos have proven that their their backups are pretty damn good.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
They got the look at their numbers in the preseason.
They've got the best numbers in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Nelly record this way you play.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna predict that the Broncos backups are better
than the the Saints backups.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
That's my prediction.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
But do you think that the even the backups won't
get as much run and it'll be just sort of
third teamers and guys.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Let me all right, so let me ask you a
different one. Do you think Sean Payton in his return
in New Orleans will want to win that game?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Well, he already put a spanking on him last year.
I mean, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
What did they won that game? Like thirty eight to
six last year or something.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
I don't know if he really cares. I don't I don't
know if he really cares. Its probably always nice to
go there to the super Dome and get a dub. Though,
I would say the Broncos have the better chance because
you know he's on the hill tonight for the Rocks.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
Austin Gomber, the nibbler is on the hill.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Is he gonna nibble his way two.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
And six with the six seven five era that's.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
He's been nibbling.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I have a feeling that this could be out of
control by the sixth inning.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I believe my Rocks. Where's the six to seven? They're
on a hot streak.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I mean, yeah, his white most You're gonna be down
two in the bottom of the eighth and here come
the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
It's gonna be my prediction.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Can you explain the Milwaukee Brewers to me?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
They're a good team, got some dudes. What would you like?
What would you like me to explain? I just can't
lose it's players.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, there is, I'm telling you right now. There is
something that's magical about I know.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It's been a while when you get on a run,
but when a baseball team gets on a run like that, God,
is it fun to watch? Really fun? Seven out? Yeah,
that win.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
But it's not It's not like, you know, we've watched
the Nuggets rattle off ten, eleven, twelve game win streaks.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
It's like, that's cool, but it's it's like when it's baseball.
I don't know why. It just feels different, doesn't it.
We do a little math.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
No, hey, uh, the run differential between the Milwaukee Brewers,
who are best in the league and they.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Cut her out of Rockies to the worst than the league.
What's the running for Why are you bring up some
older again? The Rockies have won sixty seven older between them.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Let's see, the Rockies are up three hundred something. I'd
say the difference would be five hundred and twenty runs.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Close, it's four hundred and ninety four.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
That's through through the this point in August, it's four
it's five hundred runs. Why why can't I just to
enjoy a couple of seconds. Why can't I just be like, yeah,
the Rockies are playing some fun baseball.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Before you like, oh, well, the different well the April
it does just stop.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
It does throw some things into perspective. Jack, It's pretty crazy.
My perspective is the last week. That's my perspective of
rocket and your myopic.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
And you know what, in the last week, the Rockies
are World Series contender. You're obtuse, intentionally obtuse, which is
better than just being abduce.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You know, I'm looking at their lineup. Yellis has got
twenty five Jacks hitting two sixty five. Uh, the right
fielders hitting almost three hundred.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
You got some dudes there. They're just kind of doing
it as a team.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Most by the way, I don't know if this this
could be like just a shoulder shrug that you don't
know Alex ganne to year entry level contract, got anything
for me? He's a guy, Okay, you don't. Okay, that's
fine though.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I mean he was a captain of New Hampshire. But
it's fine.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I just I wondered if you had any like inside dope?
Is this guy got some potential?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Who will be a guy to help out with the
Eagles and whatnot?
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Okay, got kan of all time? All right?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Eric Ganya, Eric Gany, hold on, Sam Ganye, lights out, Kanye.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
I got you a different I got you wore the glasses,
the rexpecs whatever, that's fine. Do you remember the old
mean Gene Oakland days of wrestling. There was a Gangye
in the wrestling ranks in the seventies and early eighties
who was pretty badass.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
I think his name was Brett Ganye.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Oh so you don't even remember his name. That's how
famous he was.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Huh, pretty badass guy that you don't remember his name.
There's really not a lot of gangy is out there.
I mean, Eric is the guy and that's that's the one.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
But Sam Ganye the hockey player has an R at
the end of his name. So I don't you know?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
What do you want? What do you want to do
about that?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
It's gang ye, but there's not just an E with
the thing over it. There's an R hanging out at
the very end to know, what do you do?
Speaker 7 (38:19):
He was born in nineteen twenty six. His name is Vern.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Okay, I just looked up. Let me tell you, king
of the sleeper hold? Why do we take all the crap?
Let me tell you of the sleeper hold?
Speaker 6 (38:35):
Dude, where would we be without the guy who invented
the sleeper hold?
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Is the most famous Gagnie of all time.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
I'm out for a second. He's not. It's Eric No.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Kevy likes Simone ganye, the former Philadelphia Flyer. I like
that too, so Simone Gan ye.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
He was an All Star by the way, in in
two thousand and one. Here in Denver, Vern gangne as.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I'm looking at a picture of him that is probably
from the nineteen thirties. He's doing the classic old wrestler pose. Okay,
this thing, yeah, where he's got the what it's not
like a speed of whatever that thing is that they
that the wrestler's wearing trunks and he's doing this and
I'm telling you right now, I've seen fifteen guys at
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a family cookout that looked like that in the.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well, you can say what you want.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
His son, Greg was a member of the High Flyers,
the tag team wrestling squad Jim Brunzell and Greg Gangne.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
No, Nelly, this island is. It's got the shoulder straps
that go over the top too.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Oh, you're just talking about like.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
The just he's just got the diaper thing.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
The women these days would call those booty shorts rock
and booty shorts doing this pose.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
And I'm telling you right now that man was every
one of my friend's dads in high school cooking.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Up a steak. Well, you can think of what you want.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
One of the reasons, how the heck did we get
onto ganye is anyway?
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Bright brought up Ganye.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Why are you bringing up Ganya when you know he's
gonna do this crap? Why are you doing it? I
asked Moser a hockey question, to his answer being oh,
Alex Ganya.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah, So that's how I got that I was doing
my job correctly, Brett.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
He's a depth guy for the organization. Okay, that's all
I wanted to know if it was somebody I shall attention.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
He was drafted by the Lightning about five years ago,
four years ago, never signed with him. Played all of
his career at New Hampshire. In terms of college career,
was their captain, big old defenseman at six foot five,
stay at home kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
One thing you learned from that conversation. Kids, you put
some respect on vering Gania's name. Also, look up Eric,
we know gane that's everybody knows him. We know Greg Shy, Yeah,
we know them all lights out, you understand.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Anyway, Vic, you were talking about Sports center anchors earlier.
They brought Rich eisen Mack for an episode of Sports
Center last and it's my.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
It's it's the Sports Center that I think we would
all take if they grew up with that.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
We all grew up with different errors of Sports Center hosts.
And you know, I've got my top five of my
favorite of all time. But I thought Rich eisen Man
he was so good last night when he paid homage
to his former partner Steve Scott. And here's a little
bit of what he said at the end of that
Sports Center that he hosted for the first time in
twenty years. Okay, Steve Nelson is on top of it.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
He's talking to the kid.
Speaker 9 (41:44):
Yeah, so we have some esteemed company Vic, and I'm
just letting him know about the business. So if you
have anything you'd like to China, don't.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Worry about the show. Don't worry about us.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
I mean you're doing no, I'm not listening to this.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
If you have Rich Eisen please Rich Eisen on Sports
centerlized my bad.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
For inspiring the youth of America here to go.
Speaker 10 (42:03):
There should be someone else right here in this chair
next to me, right there as he was for my
seven years in the role he referred to as my
TV wife. And that's my dear late friend Stuart Scott,
who is indeed looking over my shoulder tonight. I frequently
think of Stuart a lot, and what he might think
(42:23):
of the sports headlines of the day, like say, Bill
Belichick being the head football coach at his beloved school.
We used to host sports centers after Lebron's high school games.
So what would Stuart think of James still playing at
age forty with forty thousand points and with all these
new crossing of sports TV streams, like say ESPN buying
NFL Network and partnering up with My Daily Show. What
(42:45):
would it look like if Stuart sat in with say
Ernie Shack, Kenny and Charles when Inside the NBA comes
here to ESPN this fall. I could go on and
on because I miss Stuart so very much. She should
be in that chair with me with us tonight.
Speaker 6 (43:05):
Again, very touching tribute from rich Isisend last night. Who
was a fill in host? And it just jogs my memory?
Top five all time? Olberman, Patrick, Kenny Maine, Stuve, Scott
and Van Pelt.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
What he was there at the SPS.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
We all remember Valvano's speech, but Stuart with his daughters
were there.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Oh my god, oh boy. I mean that was really
that was really tough. What was your era, Brett? Who
was your era of Sports Center? Because you don't have
generational eras, who's yours?
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Kenny Maine, Kenny Maine, John Anderson, Neil Everette, you know
all those guys, And honestly, like I really don't know
why they don't go back to it, Like if if
it's just one one version of Sports Center where it's
just all the highlights, you do it just like you
(44:00):
used to do it like even hearing the music. The
music when they did that with Eisen yesterday was like, yep,
that one. I want that one, not the All right,
here's the highlight from the game. Now we go over
to Kendrick Perkins for five minutes. What did you think
of Shay's thirty five points? It's like, I just do
the highlight thing.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
I don't mean that I do miss just seeing an
in depth highlight package.
Speaker 7 (44:21):
Like if you miss the game, just show me everything
I missed.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Baseball was dead on that network the second they took
away Baseball tonight.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
The second that was gone, I didn't get my web gems.
I didn't get any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
It was over. It was you knew it. Writing was
on the wall. Who was the guy?
Speaker 6 (44:34):
That was Hawaiian Larry Larry Beale, Larry beal Away? Is
he really Aloha means goodbye? That was Larry Beale? Right,
I don't remember Larry beal Yeah, he would say what
on a home r A Loha means goodbye? He was
a There were a bunch of you know, we went
through the era of really serious, like Bob Lee was
really serious, Charlie Steiner was really serious.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Bobb Ley I'm sorry what I respect him as a journalist.
Whenever he was on the TV, it was like it's no, no,
thank you, no thank you. I it just felt like
he was talking at me. Okay, that's what it felt like.
He was on that show. What was it called? Was
it the Sports Reporters or the Outsiders or something like that.
(45:18):
He was on that show and it's like, really good
in depth sports journalism. That's not you. I said, no,
not for me.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Vic, I got one for you that gets forgotten. He
passed away unexpectedly.
Speaker 7 (45:34):
I know you're going I know exactly what you're gonna say.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
Tom me So I when I worked in tom Mes
was good bro, good bro. When I when I when
I graduated, I worked at a fellowship in New York
City and I went out to Bristol, uh, just to visit.
At that time, you know, they would show you around
and I got to hang out with tom Mees for
like an hour just to watch what he did.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
And he was so cool, such a good dude. What
a tragic passing for him. Then he dined in swimming
pool at well he drowned.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, alright, Nelly fact checker.
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Speaker 2 (46:22):
I'm sorry, Nelly, just quickly. I just remember Bob Lee
being like the investigation into the NFL's and I was like, Nope, no,
whatever you're gonna say next is not for my ears.
As soon as the word investigation is brought up the channel,
who cares bro last night?
Speaker 9 (46:41):
Go ahead, and Nelly, well, I wasn't listening to the
show five minutes ago, but I was listening earlier when
Vic told us about a problem he had with his vespa,
and you know who troubleshot? It was his twelve year
old nephew, I believe. He said, here, here's the problem
you had.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Due you're gonna burn that motor up with no oil
in it. Man, what are you doing?
Speaker 7 (47:00):
I did not know that you had to have oil
all the time.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
What for God's sake?
Speaker 7 (47:05):
What do you mean you didn't? I thought you just
sort of give it to it a little bit anyway.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, just just a little, just a little taste.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Ic free bit of advice. Put oil in your motor. Vehicles.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Hey, just keep it happy, right, you don't spoil it?
Speaker 7 (47:18):
Just hey, hey turn on no what that oil?
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Ain't got no oiolated? You ain't got no gash. Let
me let me say something right now. I got one
more impression for you. You want to know how fast
my finger hits the channel change button. Hello, Welcome outside
the lines. I'm Jeremy Shap. That's all tough for me,
And I was like, done you got? I like Jeremy Shapp.
(47:47):
It is that show not for me?
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Hysterical iTunes, Spotify, Muslim body and can't have a wonderful Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
We'll talk to you tomorrow. I love you. I
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