August 26, 2025 • 45 mins
0:00 - The Broncos have made about 20 cuts now. The roster is starting to come into focus.
14:51 - Aaron Gordon said he wants to shoot more 3s this year. But should he? Is that a viable strategy? Next, the Buccs cut Desmond Watson because of issues with his weight...okay...? Why'd you draft a 450lb guy then cut him because he's too big. After that, Brett has an interesting question. Which backup QB reclamation project is most likely to succeed in their new home: Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson, or Aaron Rodgers?
33:14 - Cal Raleigh is having a MONSTER historic year. He's putting that titular Big Dumper to work and smashing home runs left and right. Where does his season rank amongst all-time great catchers?
14:51 - Aaron Gordon said he wants to shoot more 3s this year. But should he? Is that a viable strategy? Next, the Buccs cut Desmond Watson because of issues with his weight...okay...? Why'd you draft a 450lb guy then cut him because he's too big. After that, Brett has an interesting question. Which backup QB reclamation project is most likely to succeed in their new home: Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson, or Aaron Rodgers?
33:14 - Cal Raleigh is having a MONSTER historic year. He's putting that titular Big Dumper to work and smashing home runs left and right. Where does his season rank amongst all-time great catchers?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
Made the team is not up to me. It's up
to the coaching stiffe and it's honestly up to God.
And I feel like I did what I needed to
do to put myself in position to be on it.
But end of the day, it's Sean knows the best
of the team and I'm between my trust and guy,
and I feel like I did what I needed to do.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You'll feel proud of what you've done this offseason and
you're getting in the end zone and all that.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yes, I'm proud of my progression. I definitely got better
towards from last year to this year and from the
beginning can towards the end, and I definitely progressed a lot.
And that's all you could do is progress in this league.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
So Audre guestamey. He was one of the cuts yesterday.
Now cuts are starting to come in a little bit
more quickly. So a while ago, Mike Cliff said that
Will Sherman was like go offensive lineman former buff Then
Michael Bandy was released and now two more undrafted rookie
center guard Joe mitchell Ski I believe his name was.
(01:10):
He is let go, but they do want him back
on practice squad and maybe one of them. That's a
little bit of a surprise. Turner Yell was just waved.
One of the guys in the safety mix.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
He's been there, he hasn't played a ton and he's
been kind of buried in the depth chart he was.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Was he like a fifth rounder for him a couple
of years back?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Was that's correct? He was a fifth round pack? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Practice squatter Yep, Yep, they are. They're loaded in a
lot of places. Many They got a lot of guys
in a lot of different spots. Uh. The the amount
of safety is are gonna keep is interesting. It feels like,
you know, like Jail Skinner, is he gonna be somebody
that sneaks onto the rocks? I thought he was.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Together we all liked a couple of years. I thought
we all did to.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It's just most they're stacked. It's like, what are you
gonna do? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I mean we say they're but okay, if they're stacked,
they should be a contender.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
For the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Then if they're stacked, I mean what, Okay, they have depth,
but are they stacked?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What's your definition of stacked?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, you asked the guy who brought up stacked. Yeah, okay,
well I'll tell you this.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Here's here's my definition in almost whoa?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
WHOA for football team or for not football team? Because
I can Well.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
You asked, are they a super Bowl contender? This is
almost always my answer. Well, there's maybe two exceptions. Every
year when the playoff hits. If you're a playoff team,
you're a contender. You just need to go on a
three week, four week run.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Were they a contender last year?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
No, they were one of the few teams that weren't.
And I think we all kind of knew it.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Were the Commanders a contender? Yeah, yeah they were. They
got in. They got hot. I think that's what they
were good all year. Yeah, but they got hot.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Too, they got really good that There are teams that
you see in the playoffs, like the Broncos were last year,
where you like, very cool story, not gonna go farther
than this, you know what I mean. Like, but those
just kind of knew they weren't ready.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, those teams usually have a special player or some
special players, and things went wrong for some reason in
the regular season, and then they picked it up and
became themselves again. I mean, the Commanders were a twelve
and five football team, so it wasn't like the game
out of let I mean, they did come out of
left field for the season, but they were good all
year long.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I have a question, by the way, you asked what's
your concern with the offense moving forward, and you said
it was are they going to be able to run
the football or now? Which I think is totally fair.
I have another one that I was just kind of
thinking about. Their offense is very much predicated on one thing.
If there's one thing that we know about the Broncos
offense that they do well, it's the connection of Bon
(03:48):
Knicks and Courtland Sutton. Right. Do you think there's an
argument to be made that bon Knicks looks his way
a little too much at times because he did that
all last year and during the reseason the snaps that
they played. Can you tell me a throw that he
had to somebody not named Courtland Sutton that you were like,
wow on.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You know, I used to be concerned about that, but
I'm I'm watching this Cowboys series. I'm on episode four,
Episode four. It's outstanding.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It's it's actually good. The Cowboys name.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I love it because I lived I lived it. If
you live it, you love it. Okay, it's also my era,
my generation. You're too young for it, Brett. You won't
remember a damn thing. You talk about teams that were loaded.
Take a look at the Cowboy back to back super
Bowl it's probably it's probably.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
The best offensive line in the history of the game.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Tony Casillas, Mark Stepanovsky, remember that that group. Yes, Nate Newton, Yeah,
Larry Allen, he wasn't on that team. He wasn't. Hold On.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Are you sure Larry Allen wasn't on that team? I'm
the super Bowl teams. Yes he was. Let me go back,
he absolutely was.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Hold On.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Maybe he was. Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Was Nate Newton the guy that messed up with the
like a couple of big ones? No, Leon Letton, That's
what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, Larry Allan was on those teams. You're moren he
was born in seventy one.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Uh, Nope, he wasn't on those teams. Oh you know why?
Oh you're I'm original.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Well, he joined the Cowboys in ninety four.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
On those teams.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
That was the very Yeah, that was the very end.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
He was not on those I know those teams because
I covered those teams. He was not on those teams.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I do remember Nate Newton very well. I remember Stepannski
very well. Yes, I remember all that.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
What was your question, I said, are you too reliant
on just Courtland's side?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, here's what I'm getting at. In that series, in
that documentary, Troy Aikman would talk about how every time
he went back to pass, he just looked for eighty
eight Michael Irvin. They wont two Super Bowls thinking that way,
And when eighty eight wasn't open, he'd look for a
number eighty. And that's just the way it is. You
have your guy, you have your guy that you work with,
(05:54):
and you work to get him open. Hey, Brett, you
know the you know else? They had what's up?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
They had this guy twenty two, he's good too, who
ended up becoming the best rusher in the history in
the history of the league. They had that guy too,
But they had tight End that was Janovich was a
total stud I mean, they had They were absolutely stacked.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
By the way textas, I don't think he has heard
me correctly. Everybody's saying, what about the Mims pass from
last year? I said in the preseason, you have a
throw from Bonnicks in the preseason that wasn't to Courtland
Sun that you remember. I mean, I guess the ev
An Ingram thing, but that was more a catch and run.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But I think that.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Second game.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But I'm thinking that once we get into the regular
season and they are going to smash Tennessee in Week one,
You're going to see so much more implemented than we
saw in the preseason. You're going to see Ingram, You're
going to see for the first time Dobbins run the football.
You're going to have the two headed monster. I mean,
(07:03):
you're I think that it's going to look different and
it should behave differently than it did this preseason. So
I think that, Yes, while Courtland Sutton has been a
major safety valve for Bonnicks not only last year but
this preseason, I think more options will present themselves wide open.
Will we get two week one?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, I just hope you have a couple a couple
of different guys that you trust in the offense, and
I hope one of them is running back. To be honest,
I would love that more than anything that you could
rely on Dobbins or Harvey to either run the ball
effectively or catch the ball a fine open space coming
out of the backfield. Now another cut. Sam Franklin Junior
(07:47):
has been let go, the veteran safety and special teamer
for the Broncos. Now he was somebody they signed. I
think they plan on having him on the roster. I mean,
he got a guarantee of one point three million bucks
that they just ate on this. But I wonder if
there are some younger guys that have proven worthy enough
to eat the money.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Remember, there are also things going on behind the scenes,
like Tomorri Mathis getting cut. That cut was as much
a salary dump as it was a personnel move because
of the money he was making. Now, it would not
surprise me one iota if the Broncos went to Mathis
and said, let's work a deal. We'll keep you on
(08:28):
the roster for this number instead of the number you're making.
Take a look at what he's making or was due
to make. I think it was over three point five
million salary. Yeah, he had a pretty good hit, So
that's the kind of guy where you go to him
and say, listen, you're not quite on the depth chart
where we want you to beat for that number. Let's
trim that salary a little bit and make it a
(08:50):
little more tolerable. And probably chose not to do that.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Damn you, Right, how does this work? So he was
making eight hundred nine to nine thousand, year one, one million,
year two one point one on year three and then
it jumps a three point six hmmm, I mean must
have a contract backloaded the contract.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So, I mean his contract alone made him a target.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
If you're a periphery dB, if you're not a starter
and you're just trying to make the roster and you're
making that kind of money and it's not a ton
but it's depth money, yeah, then you're already a target.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
So I'm sure the Broncos approached him, said hey, we
want to keep you around, we love your game, work
with us.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Well they were, but the thing is vic according to
Mike Cliss, they were trying to trade.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Him trade the contract.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well, I'm just saying that means that they wouldn't. That's
not bringing him back as you're looking at it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
But at the end of the probably because yeah, he
didn't want that, and so they're like, well, then we'll
try to trade him, and then our last.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Hope is to go the first conversation is can we
can we make a deal? I mean, and that's the
that's a tough part about the NFL, right, I mean,
if they don't like how much money they're paying you,
they want you to rework the contract.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Can I ask you as a question of some other
news that happened yesterday where Trey Hendrickson, I still don't
think he's happy with this, but a lot happier than
he was two days ago, where they just said, all right, fine,
no more years, but how about a fourteen million dollar raise.
Nobody's going to be unhappy with fourteen extra million dollars
(10:27):
for a season. But what Trey Hendrickson wants is long
term security, which he is not getting out of Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Yeah, but he's it's either take this or don't play.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, if they're saying take this extra fourteen mili
and you'll be in the same position you were before,
that's pretty good. They're saying here's fourteen million just to
get your butt here into the facility and play football.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I know why they're hesitant to give him.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
He's thirty two.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
He's thirty years old?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Is he not?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
How old?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Is he? Help me out?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Well, he's yes, he's he's thirty. Okay, they if they
sign him to a So what is he making now?
Thirty one point six million bucks?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
He's caught right between a rock and a hard place
with his age and with the kind of salary he
can command.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
If they paid him that contract over like four years,
which is probably what he wanted, How the hell do
you fill the team when you're paying Burrow fifty some,
you're paying Hendrickson thirty two, you're gonna be paying little
Jamar Chase, like, is it forty million years? Well, they decided,
and then t Higgins is getting now twenty five to thirty.
(11:39):
I don't know what the number is.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They decided they're gonna throw the money at offense first.
That's just their approach. That's the that's their approach to Plane.
I mean, because we all know the.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Problem with Cincinnati's always been they can't score him.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Look at their look at their I'd love to see
their salary cap differentials between offense and defense.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
I'm trying to find that now, I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Sure it's just offense crazy. I bet it's like seventy offense.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
This is why the Broncos have to get while they
getting's good. I know they don't have a T.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Higgins and a Jamark Chase on their team, but they've
got a patzer Tan and he'll come up again. They've
got a Bonnix who's going to be paid paid, right, Yes,
I mean it's Vic. We think about that money. We
think about the Russ money, and it's like, man, if
(12:32):
you just had that Russ money, you could do this
and that and this and that and so on and
so forth.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Okay, you're right about that.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
So they're spending one hundred and sixty seven million dollars
on their offense in ninety eight on defense.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Pay you.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Well, then they're they're that was.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
After the fourteen million dollar rais by the way.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Okay, so then you're still going to have to be
teams thirty five to thirty that kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
So Vic think about this.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I mean, when Bonnicks is going to get paid and you,
I mean, that's gonna eat that up. And then you
had to pay your own guys again. You paid Courtland,
did you not? You paid Zach Gallen, Did you not,
I mean, you're gonna geta pay bonito?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Are you not?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Hold on a second, listen to this.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
For the twenty twenty five season, the Bengals are spending
a total of two hundred and seventy nine million dollars
on their cap. I don't know if that's with or
without this raise from Hendrickson, Burrow, Chase and Higgins consume
forty four and a half percent of just those three players.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, so it's that's that's, that's what they want. Though
they're spending money on offense.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
The entire defense is thirty five percent of their cap.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Exactly what I said, players, though, don't make excuses. Then
when the Cincinnati defense has trouble stopping people and everybody's
all over the Cincinnati d who is their decoordinator?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Lou it was?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I think he got fired Lou Emaruno. Remember that guy
in a Rumo, whatever the hell's name was, And I
remember last year they're giving him flak, and I'm like,
spend some money on defense, man.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Oh, do you know who their defensive coordinator is? Now?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Whoever it is? Good Luck thal Goldenvic, the former note Dame.
Oh yeah, that's right, Yeah, former Notre Dame DC.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Wait, was he he was the head coach of Miami
for a minute, wasn't he.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah? Yeah, he's been around.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Three h three five four nine two five. We have
more cuts coming today's. We'll keep you up to date
on all of those when we come back. Though, piece
of audio I think is interesting. Something Aaron Gordon said
is he is making his China tour much like Joker
did a few weeks back. Mentioned something about his approach
(14:46):
this season and a plan of his to improve upon.
We'll get to it next. It's very difficult to find
a guy who did what Aaron Gordon did last year,
which was improve his He was a let's be honest,
he's a bad shooter. He's bad from the outside, he
was bad from the free throw line, and then all
of a sudden he became a really really good one.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
A clutch one. Yeah, not a good one clutch as
well if you remember the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
So, ag, what's the plan this year?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Was maybe a top five in the NBA in three
point percentage?
Speaker 6 (15:18):
So now I'm just going to increase the volume and
hopefully increase the percentage as well.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Just for a second, what's the proper number of threes
you think for the Nuggets, because I know that they've
they went out and they got Cam Johnson, who shoots
a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
He shoots two more threes per game, two or three
more than Michael Porter.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Junior did Ag said he wants to shoot more threes.
Tim Hardaway will shoot three, Tim Hardaway, lets it fly.
The one the guy I want shooting more threes is
Jamal Murray.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, he needs to shoot more threes.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, I just I don't want. I know it wouldn't
get this far. I don't want to turn into the cellar.
Of course we're not.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
We're not talking Boston. We're talking God. Let me tell
you it was really good inside. They tell you, what's
the honey hole? What's the honey hole?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Of threes? You tell me.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I don't think there's a particular number on it. I
just think that if you're feeling it and you can
hit them, hit them, and if they're open, hit them.
I just think that the Nuggets too many times last
year the offense looked predictable. They go inside, trying to
go back outside, and they'd fashion a three that was
late in the shot clock. If there's a three that's
open early in the shot clock. That's wide open. You've
(16:28):
got to take it.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
What do you think is the average the average in
the NBA threes per game?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Okay, I know that Boston blew that wide open last year.
They've got the record right, threees per game.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I would assume, I'm I just looked up the average
the average NBA team's three point attempts attempts attempts.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I will say thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Damn think almost now the thirty seven and a half.
Thirty seven and a.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Half, Yeah, because the Nuggets were below average and the
Celtics blew that average up.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well. Though the Boston Celtics take north of forty per
sometimes fifty fifth per game. They take too many, way
too many. They take too many. And that's just part
of the game that I wish could change.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
But it's not because three is worth more than two,
and if you do the math, that's just the math. Unfortunately,
for teams like that that RELYI so much on the three,
what do you go to when it's not working. The
Nuggets have the best interior player in the league. Yeah,
so if you're not making threes, how many times you
find yourselves during the game because I do stop shooting threes?
(17:27):
Give it to fifteen. How many times do you do that?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
A lot?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, a lot? Right because they miss? Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Now, when they're making, you're not saying that, though, When
you're missing, what are you saying?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
I'm saying this, I'm going no, god, no, no oh
nice shot, nice shots, Thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And that's the honey hole. I guess. The honey hole
is you make enough to keep guys off jokers pass, Agreed, Agreed,
You see what I'm saying. Yeah, did you see.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Aaron Gordon's picture next to yel Ming? Oh my god,
he look so I'm thinking, remember Aaron Gord at Broncos
camp next to Broncos's huge, and then Eric So then
Aaron Gordon next to Yeo Ming. If you put Yao
Ming next to the Denver Broncos, I mean, this guy's
a giant, is yeall?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Like four hundo?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
He's gotta be up there now, it's huge. I did
a little thing when Yao Ming played for the Rockets.
I just wanted to stand next to him on camera,
and I walked up to half half court where he
was standing, and I just wanted to say I'd like
to just stand next to you if you don't mind.
And he looked at me like the hell you doing?
And my head reached the top of his waist his
belly button.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I was just thinking about this? Yao? Ming could still
get a job in professional sports. He could walk around
with a towel around his neck at Tampa Bay's training
camp and probably just fine.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Maybe would you want to be that big?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
No?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Now it depends on what comes with it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Like you could never ride a regular motorcycle, you could
never drive a.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Never want to be shack size. I think that would
be a miserable life, honestly, I really do. Outside of
the making millions of dollars, well, you could always sing,
but you'd have.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Your own planes, so you have your own plane seats,
you have your own.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Yeah, but I'm not but most I'm not going to
assume that I'm just an NBA player, Okay, I'm just
I'm just going I'm just a dude. I'm just a
dude who's seven foot three hundred and fifty pound guy.
That seems that would be tough, like a tough life.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Did you read the day the Guinness Book World Records?
Remember they had the world's tallest man. I forgot his name,
Robert Wad Yes, I remember reading about him and like, god,
I feel bad for this dude just hanging out here,
just all big, and he died or he died like
in his twenties.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
But think, I mean, think about it. You're over there.
It insernya in your shack, your shack size. You're not shacked,
but your shack size.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Trying to sleep on one of those little hotel did
you You're like half on even me, dude, even me,
and I shrunk an inch.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
That sucked.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
You're a shrinking man.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Well it just goes to prove to you that the world,
I'm so healing, shrinking man, the world.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Is more accustomed to guys my size. That's what the
world is made for.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, it really even me, Brett. I had my feet
a couple of times. I'm like, there's no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I am not a big dude.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
You are not.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Do not get my toes hanging over the edge.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Vick, you are so lucky that you you found the
queen when you did, and you weren't like I don't
know Nelly's age. I think like I was right at
the cutoff. There are women that demand your six ft
feet tall today, like you have to be six feet now.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You know this.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
I'm not making this up. It's a real thing.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Yeah, you got some height sticklers, especially on the dating apps.
But a short king's like us, we have a place.
We find our place.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Vic I didn't have any of those restrictions.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yeah, we're gonna talk to Adam Chefter at nine o'clock today. Uh,
here's another one. Courtney Jackson, the guy that we loved
most just waves. I think he could be a practice squad.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I think so too.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
But that again, there's another right there, there's another wide
receiver gun.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
There's that guy, Corney Jackson who in the first game,
remember he's back there returning punts and kicks and you're like, man,
this guy's got some pop. Yeah he's not making the team. Yeah,
this guy's got some pop.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
That's what I said to MOJ. You know what sucks?
I really like that guy. He has no chance at
making the team none. What's the story with at Perry?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Love the name? I love the name mid Camp?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, too many, too many of these initial first.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
R J J K A T.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Here's the thing. Are they gonna keep Are they going
to keep five on the team, right, Yeah, they're down.
They're down to six. Are they going to keep five
or six? They're down to six? And he's the last guy. Now,
he's a draft pick by New Orleans a couple of
years ago. He's a he's a Peyton guy. He's a
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six five two ten guy.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Well, these last guys, they're gonna go practice squad. All
these guys that were cut today are practice squatters. The
last cuts are practice squatters. So don't be surprised. All
these guys are coming back. They'll find a way back,
all right, or they'll find a way on another active
roster somewhere.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Well, yeah they will.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Well, here's the name another backup quarterback that's released. A good,
a good backup quarterback name Easton Stick has been let
go from Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Do you realize that Easton Stick played every single game
of the preseason for the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
In fact, I'm sure, I'm pretty sure he started every
single game of the Preseason's the other two quarterbacks Panics
and Cousins, and they are gonna play them, right?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
They didn't play Panics all preseason?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Correct, which is I think a mistake, that's I think so.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
But Eastern Stick East and Stick risked your life for
these three games and then you're gonna get cut afterwards.
But risk.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
But he probably knew that. The good part for him
is he's got a lot of film. Now. He didn't
play terribly, I don't think, but he played.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I mean he started every preseason game for the Falcons.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So again, we'll keep you up to date on on
some of these tots as they keep rolling through here.
I'm a little bit faster now. The Broncos is the today.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
We also, uh, you saw that that Tommy DeVito got
the acts in New York.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You expected that Tommy after eating the W over the weekend,
he was eating the W with Jameis Winston. I saw
that Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Russell Wilson was nowhere to be found, but they were
eating the W. Guntlets was laughing. Question for the three
of you, three veteran.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Quarterbacks, who will do the best, Who will do the worst?
Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco, who will have the
most success of those three? Who will fall flat on
their face and probably just leave Rogers?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Flaco Russ.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So you think Russ has the worst chance.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Now, No, to be fair, I don't think any of
them do exceptionally.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Well, what's when I say exceptionally?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
What?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
I don't think any of them are making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You don't think. I mean Flacco's not making the playoffs
in Cleveland. That's not happening.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
No, I don't think it's happening.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I don't think Russell has a chance of making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I think Rodgers has a chance. Pittsburgh, he has a chance.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Do you know who he's throwing the football though?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Too?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
He came Metcalf, He came met Calf, Robert Woods.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah, he had DeVante Adams last year in New York.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
I think he.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Always Yeah, I think you always have a chance in Pittsburgh.
So I wouldn't put.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
No, No, I I do. That's why I have him first.
I still don't think any of them are making the playoffs.
I think there's their hell knows with Flacco and Russell
Wilson and just I don't think so with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Do you think Russell Wilson will be the Giants starting
quarterback when they played the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Well, I don't think so week six? It is a
week five or six?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
It's seven?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Week seven?
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I think it's seven.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Are you sure? Help me out, Nelly?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Are you sure?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Apparently I'm not? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Seven?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
How could you be so sure?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Because I'm staring at it?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
It is week seven? Correct? I keep flipping the Jets
and the Giants.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Here's the thing, Jackson dark looked pretty damn good. He
really did. And we know as well as anybody young
quarterback looks good. If Russell Wilson struggles at all, how
loud is that going to be in New York? What
the rookie at?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Which is why I thought it was a weird marriage
from the get go, Russell Wilson to New York. And
then it just got louder and louder, like if it
wasn't loud enough here, Like I'm with you, do you guys.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Remember when we were talking pre draft and I and
this is when we thought your door was still gonna
get picked in the first round. But it was after
they got Russell Wilson and they signed Jameis and I
think both of you guys thought quarterback was like off
the table for them, that they weren't gonna draft somebody.
I was like, I don't they might still they might.
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And then look they passed that first time and then
trade back up at the late end of the first
round to take Jackson Dark. But he looked good. There's
going to be Russell Wilson I can't have. He can't mess.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Up well either way.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
I can tell you this.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
The Giants fans. Giants fans are over the moon about
their future with him.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
They're over the moon.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
They I think they have every right to be. Yeah,
he threw the ball really well. Know what else to say?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Well, this is what it's gonna look like for Russell Wilson,
and I feel bad because he is almost a sacrificial
land to start this season, waiting for Jackson Dark to
take over. Open against the Commanders, right the luck in Washington, Giants,
Cowboys the following week. What you want about the Cowboys.
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The Chiefs visit Jersey in week three. Have fun with
that one. The Chargers come the following week. Nothing easy there.
And finally the schedule relents a bit. They play the
Saints October fifth. After that, they've got the Eagles, the
Super Bowl champion, So five of the first six games
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they'll probably be the underdogs in five of the first
or at least four of the first six.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
They'll probably be the underdog in Denver.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Russell Wilson has to navigate that schedule early on, so
it might be screwed, dude, it might It might be
perfect for Jackson Dart to come in and so.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Here's what they're gonna do. You just laid it out, Vic.
But after that they play Denver in Denver, then they
play Philly and Philly. I'm pretty sure after that eighth
week they're like, thank you for your service, Russell Wilson,
get the hell out here and never come back. I mean,
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they could feasibly be one in seven by the time
they get to week nine. What did you laugh at moment?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Jackson Dart's got the same problem that Zach Wilson had.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Zach Wilson where here.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Oh, it's not a problem. If I know what you're thinking,
that's not a problem. I think it's rephrasing. Rephrase it.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
What's the deal?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Let me look, talk amongst yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Just just just talk to yourself, all right, Just talk,
just talk, because what you're doing Vick's get about to
have a heart attack. So hang on a second, shut
up and talk.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Shut up and talk.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
So I I think I have an idea of where
they're going with this.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
But I think that's it. Yeah that Oh okay, are
big big big? Are you?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Are you all right?
Speaker 4 (29:09):
So it is what I thought you guys forgot.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Problem?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Why is that a problem?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's not a problem.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Is it a problem you wish you had?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Moj not a problem?
Speaker 5 (29:20):
I do have it?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Good answer, good answer? Uh, anyway, I think, Yeah, you
want to talk about a sacrificial lamb? I mean, does
does Russey Russ doesn't even make it to the Broncos game.
There's no way the only game that they can win
in that first stretches like the same thing.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You realize, the older we get, the more of a
problem that is.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, oh now I get the Zach Wilson, I understand.
Any who.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, that's why I think that Aaron Rodgers, of those
three quarterbacks I listed Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Joe Aaron
Rodgers has the best chance to win, the best chance
to start the whole season, and the best chance to
make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Can I ask you to let me ask you another question.
With veteran quarterbacks, who do you think starts more games?
Aaron Rodgers or Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well that's it. Who's gonna stay healthy?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Stafford's got right this second, Stafford's got a bad.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
You know what, doesn't get better? You're back, Well, I
know you're back, doesn't just get better. And they're they're
doing this thing where they're like, hmm, Stafford's fine, he's fine.
I know he hasn't practiced for you know, like six months,
but he's fine. He'll be ready to It's like, okay, ye, no,
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Stafford doesn't need practice time. Okay, he's veteran enough where
he can figure it out on the fly. But how
many hits are you gonna be able to take? And
you guys have seen Stafford's wanting to take one right
in the chin, in the pocket if he wants to
make a throw. It's just like I.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Just, I just you know, with Aaron Rodgers, why do
I still think that this guy can play? I'm probably
incredibly stupid about that, but I feel like, Aaron, if
you got an opportunity to throw the ball to DK Metcalf,
I don't know, man, I think that a guy like
DK And and you know, Robert Woods is no spring
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chicken either, And He's had his own fair share of
injury history. But Calvin Austin, they've got some dudes there
that can catch the football.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I just take another year removed after his Achilles tear.
I think he'll be a little a little bit more
of himself.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
I do.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I mean, but he's you're talking about a guy who's
forty one years old, gonna he's gonna be forty two
before Christmas. So I just I don't know. I just
think this guy still has game left. And that was
his only landing spot. So let me go one more time.
Aaron Who's number two?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I had Flacco second Flacco?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Yeah, and then runs.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
You guys, remember last year when the Patriots had Jacoby
Brissette and they had Drake May and they're wondering who's
going to start and who is the coach? Then he
was only here for a year. Mayo basically goes the
offensive line camper text. So I'm not gonna put Drake
May out there, And I just looked at He's like me,
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get ready to die because I'm not going to do
that to the young guys.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Jacoby, man, come on, man.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Every time he dropped back for a past was just that.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
And the funny part is they're only there's only two
quarterbacks in Arizona.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Only two.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Okay, there you got two.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You've got Kyler Murray and you've got Jacoby Brissette. Come on,
man's that was pretty much poor Jacobe last year. He
he's gonna see some playing time.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
I'm pretty sure he is.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
He might. Uh. We can ask these questions to Adam Schefter,
who will join us in twenty minutes? Stick around? Can
I push this now?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I pushed mine? That was all on the air.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Oh uh Hey.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Reminder to you guys, we are giving away an Odyssey
AI one cruiser double wide putters right handed, double white,
double on. It says double wide. I kind of like
saying it. Three hundred dollars putter. By the way, we're
giving that away. And all you gotta do is text
Shank in your first and last name to three oh
three five oh four oh nine two five.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
What did Shockey come up with that word?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
No, who did Nelly? All right, you could tell Nelly
is not a golfer, does not play golf. Yeah, when
he comes up with the word that is.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Verbot Hold on, hold on, I know you swing to
all the credit. He goes, is that cool with you?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And I said, yeah, well again you want another golf
nerd who doesn't understand the ethics of the game. You
do not, You do not even whisper that word.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
I guess what, Vick. I hate to tell you something.
When I was playing my incredible career at Division two
baseball and I had a starting pitcher that was going
like five six innings deep with a no hitter, we
talked about it too. Do you know that? Welles the
guy who says, I don't I don't watch cartoons, and
I don't believe in your superstition stuff. Now all of
a sudden with his golf game because he's so mentally
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weak because he wept on a bench at a driving
range once, can't hear the word shank.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
It doesn't bother me, but there are a lot of
people who will never even utter that word.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Well, then don't get the potter.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I'm just saying, if you have a case of the
then just text the word get this putter, and it'll
fix it for you.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
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Speaker 1 (34:58):
A five iron. It's a potter. Potter's not fixing your shanks.
You can shank Putts right now.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
You push, you push, You can push your Yanka Pott.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
You can push your Yanka Pott. You can't shank a Putts.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Okay, I'll tell you what else you can yank.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm just saying it was a good cue.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Hey, Can I ask you guys just a quick question.
I was just looking at the Circus Sports and they
have all these futures odds, So I was looking at
some NFL stuff and then they had one that was
a that popped up, which was odds to win American
League MVP this year, in which the favorite is Aaron Judge. Again,
here's my question. Cal Rawley, the catcher out of Seattle,
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is having the one of the most incredible seasons for
a catcher offensively in MLB, got fifty Daners.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Fifty, the big dumper. How How?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
What?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Why wouldn't he win m VP? I mean, it's being
a catcher. Your entire life is kneeling. Have you ever
been in a squatted position? I do this a lot
now with you being in a squatted position for like
your entire year, and hitting fifty bombs feels impossible.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Let me speak for catchers. I've never been a catcher.
My kid was a catcher in the little league. I've
seen got I don't think there's a more disrespected position
in all of sports. Heck, they call their equipment the
tools of ignorance. You understand that, right, Yeah, the tools
of ignorance. And yet catchers are so profoundly impactful on
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every game, every pitch. It's amazing. I mean, they don't
get the respect they deserve. It really, it's it's astounding
to me.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, so you're a baseball guy, you tell me no,
but nobody there's a man. I'll tell you what I
think to a man. You ask any baseball player who
do they respect the most on their teams? The catcher,
because not only are you doing that, it's ninety five
degree heat humidity. What did eachio say about playing in
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Kansas City in August? It's hotter than two rats bleeping
in a socket and he got all that gear on.
It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I played baseball in my whole life, and on some
occasions I would get into the gear to catch VP
or into some late innings, right, I would come in
and get behind the plate.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
K fine, It is such a thankless job.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Who was the last catcher MVP? Piazza?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Probably Mike be Gary Carter? No, did Gary Carter win
the MVP?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Now Buster Posey one day?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Oh oh Yeahge Rodriguez?
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Did Pudge win?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Are you asking me these questions? I can't answer and
ask the guy to google it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Buster Posey was the last catcher to win it in
twenty twelve.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
By the way, my h do you.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Know the most decorated before that was Joe Maller Joe
Maher won one VIC.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yes, my lovely bride loves Buster Posey. That's her favorite
of all time.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Do you know the most catcher in the history of baseball?
The most decorated player in the history of base Johnny Bench,
Yogi Barra, It was the most decorated. Was nobody's won
more World Series more? I mean, look at his resume.
Pull it up.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
He's got a ton of World Series He's a three
time MVP, like and he's won one as a manager.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Pull him up.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yeah, Yogi was the man. But all I'm saying is,
you know it's that along with.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Let me verify this.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
To hang on, it's gonna make this is this does
not deserve this, does not deserve the squash what.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yogi ber right?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yogi Barra's got like all decorated player.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
In the He was also a gunner's mate on a
landing craft during the DNA invasion.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I know that read his book.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yogi was the man.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Okay, I didn't read, but he was wounded by enemy fire.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Here's the other thing, Cal, Now he's not going to
do this. I think sat is thirty games left, so
for him to get the Marris number, he'd have to
have eleven homers in the last thirty games. Probably not
going to happen. But if he gets close, do you care? Yeah?
But here's do you guys remember when Aaron Judge hit
sixty two three years ago and it just I thought
that would be a bigger deal than what it was,
and nobody seemed to.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Really because it was stolen from Marrus.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
We won't get into that, but keep in mind that
Cal Rawley is hitting two forty seven and Aaron Judge
is hitting three twenty three. Well, I mean we're talking.
I thought it'd be like a little bit of Judge
eighty points higher he's hitting.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
I understand that, but I thought it'd be a little
bit of Judge fatigue along with Catcher doing something.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
He's got forty dongs, dude, he's got I mean, yeah,
but he's incredible.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
But he's always incredible.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
But here's the deal, though, uh, Rawley's actually behind the
fricking dish every single pitch. Yeah, working his butt off.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I do think that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
It has to factor in what is Judge doing. What's
he doing.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
He's hanging out, hanging out, getting guys out.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah, I know you're You're totally right.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I think the I don't understand why Catchers don't get
more respect. I've never understood it, never will.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
But he's he's not a heavy underdog. But I think
if I remember right, Judge was like minus one thirty five.
He was plus one seventy five for al MVP.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
At six foot eight though, how fast, I mean, Judge
covers a lot of ground.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
He's got a huge stride up there.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
You know, Judge, Judge is one of the best players
of this generation. Yeah, I he does every He's got
a cannon of an arm. He's a good fielder. Everybody
remembers he's dropping the alcs.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
How how many put it outs?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Says he have this this year? How many putouts? Probably
a bunch.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Are you talking about assists or putouts? Put outs are
just catching the ball? I'm talking about both. I have
no y.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
How would I know that?
Speaker 5 (40:38):
I'm telling you?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
He covers a lot of ground? You know does He
doesn't look fast, but he covers.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
A lot of ground.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Your boy, goodman? Who Yeah, Hunter is obviously the other
big name catcher, big hitting catcher, who's done a lot
of things this year. That's the other thing that surprised me.
He didn't start as a catcher. They made him a catcher.
You would think that a position like that, you you
got grow up with it a little bit. They made
him that position.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
I want you guys to watch. I want you guys
to watch any catcher. If you're if you're maybe you
go to Coursfield one more time before the season. Answer,
you're just happen to cruise, buy a baseball game on TV.
Watch how many times a catcher, by the way, takes
a foul tip off the hand, takes one off the
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inside of the thigh and they go shake their hand
a little bit and they just ride right.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
So let me get let me get back to the
VP in the late ending crap. If you take one
square off the mask, it's dude, that's not fun.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
No fun.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So foul vica, foul tip off your mask not fun.
A foul tip on the inside of the thigh not fun.
Even a foul tip off the chest. Those dude, those
chest protectors back in the day could only do so much.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Brett, Yeah, it'll.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Do this to you.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
It's just it's a thankless job.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
A couple more here. Most the guy that we were
impressed by, uh this preseason in training camp, Calvin Throckmorton
has been let go.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Lee Man, he made the It's my favorite block of
the preseason.
Speaker 5 (42:16):
Throck Morton had it.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
They also let go of cornerback Jaden Robinson is another
Uh did.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
They Yeah, no, I was.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
He was going to make the team. But why do
you guys sound shocked.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Well, I'm not shocked.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
None of these has shocked me.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
That that.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Doesn't shock me. Worse Quintin Newsome.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
He's been let go as well.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Ah yeah, yeah, okay, So again another reaction that's on
the on the corners stoppers are like the receivers.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
The corners are like the receivers, Why are you reacting
like throck Morton. I thought maybe add an outside shot
to be an extra.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
It's gotten cut right now. It surprised me. Not a
single one.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Okay, so you've got on You got Sir Tan Moss
and and uh.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Johnny Baron and Abram Strain and Jakuon. Like that's a
lot of corners, man. Yeah, I guess by the way
from Giants camp, the Giants have cut little Jordan Humphrey.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Wow, they have.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Also cut Greg Dulcic. I saw that two former Broncos.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
That's crazy. So little Jordan Humphrey goes from a prominent
member of this offense to getting cut by a team
that's lesser crazy. Dulsich I thought I had a good preseason.
I watched the game.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
What happened with Dulciic? What happened?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Well, injury couldn't stay healthy here, he couldn't stay healthy.
The other issue was could he block to be a
prototypical tight end?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
So you're infatuated with his hair, Well, no, he's just
he's he's like an albert O guy.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
To me, it's like six foot five, can run and
it's like you couldn't fight, you can't find anywhere to stick.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
And the touchdown passes that he did catch, You're like, man,
he looks pretty good on that route.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Right, You're like, this guy's got a little.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
Something something non like he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
He can't block him, Like so eighty percent of the
tight ends in the league can't block it.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
It feels like I'm convinced too that a lot of
times a tight end their careers are made early, early
in their career when if they find the right fit quarterback,
the right chemistry, yep, and they get going and they're good.
But a guy like Dulcich couldn't stay on the field,
couldn't get going. He was so lost, you know, he
was a vagabond, ends up with the Giants, just trying
hoping to make your career gets away from you. Like,
(44:30):
think about it, Travis Kelsey's a Hall of Famer, But
what would he be without Patrick Mahomes? What would he
be with without that combination?
Speaker 4 (44:38):
He'd still be good?
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Would he be the same player?
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Well no, just like Gronk would be really good. But
if he didn't have Brady, like, he's probably not fat.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Well, here's what I do know.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Rock Bauers last year with Gardner Minshew and Aidan O'Connell
kicked at.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Point.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Imagine if he had a guy.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
Made the team is not up to me. It's up
to the coaching stiffe and it's honestly up to God.
And I feel like I did what I needed to
do to put myself in position to be on it.
But end of the day, it's Sean knows the best
of the team and I'm between my trust and guy,
and I feel like I did what I needed to do.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You'll feel proud of what you've done this offseason and
you're getting in the end zone and all that.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yes, I'm proud of my progression. I definitely got better
towards from last year to this year and from the
beginning can towards the end, and I definitely progressed a lot.
And that's all you could do is progress in this league.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
So Audre guestamey. He was one of the cuts yesterday.
Now cuts are starting to come in a little bit
more quickly. So a while ago, Mike Cliff said that
Will Sherman was like go offensive lineman former buff Then
Michael Bandy was released and now two more undrafted rookie
center guard Joe mitchell Ski I believe his name was.
(01:10):
He is let go, but they do want him back
on practice squad and maybe one of them. That's a
little bit of a surprise. Turner Yell was just waved.
One of the guys in the safety mix.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
He's been there, he hasn't played a ton and he's
been kind of buried in the depth chart he was.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Was he like a fifth rounder for him a couple
of years back?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Was that's correct? He was a fifth round pack? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Practice squatter Yep, Yep, they are. They're loaded in a
lot of places. Many They got a lot of guys
in a lot of different spots. Uh. The the amount
of safety is are gonna keep is interesting. It feels like,
you know, like Jail Skinner, is he gonna be somebody
that sneaks onto the rocks? I thought he was.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Together we all liked a couple of years. I thought
we all did to.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It's just most they're stacked. It's like, what are you
gonna do? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I mean we say they're but okay, if they're stacked,
they should be a contender.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
For the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Then if they're stacked, I mean what, Okay, they have depth,
but are they stacked?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What's your definition of stacked?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, you asked the guy who brought up stacked. Yeah, okay,
well I'll tell you this.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Here's here's my definition in almost whoa?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
WHOA for football team or for not football team? Because
I can Well.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
You asked, are they a super Bowl contender? This is
almost always my answer. Well, there's maybe two exceptions. Every
year when the playoff hits. If you're a playoff team,
you're a contender. You just need to go on a
three week, four week run.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Were they a contender last year?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
No, they were one of the few teams that weren't.
And I think we all kind of knew it.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Were the Commanders a contender? Yeah, yeah they were. They
got in. They got hot. I think that's what they
were good all year. Yeah, but they got hot.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Too, they got really good that There are teams that
you see in the playoffs, like the Broncos were last year,
where you like, very cool story, not gonna go farther
than this, you know what I mean. Like, but those
just kind of knew they weren't ready.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, those teams usually have a special player or some
special players, and things went wrong for some reason in
the regular season, and then they picked it up and
became themselves again. I mean, the Commanders were a twelve
and five football team, so it wasn't like the game
out of let I mean, they did come out of
left field for the season, but they were good all
year long.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I have a question, by the way, you asked what's
your concern with the offense moving forward, and you said
it was are they going to be able to run
the football or now? Which I think is totally fair.
I have another one that I was just kind of
thinking about. Their offense is very much predicated on one thing.
If there's one thing that we know about the Broncos
offense that they do well, it's the connection of Bon
(03:48):
Knicks and Courtland Sutton. Right. Do you think there's an
argument to be made that bon Knicks looks his way
a little too much at times because he did that
all last year and during the reseason the snaps that
they played. Can you tell me a throw that he
had to somebody not named Courtland Sutton that you were like,
wow on.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You know, I used to be concerned about that, but
I'm I'm watching this Cowboys series. I'm on episode four,
Episode four. It's outstanding.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It's it's actually good. The Cowboys name.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I love it because I lived I lived it. If
you live it, you love it. Okay, it's also my era,
my generation. You're too young for it, Brett. You won't
remember a damn thing. You talk about teams that were loaded.
Take a look at the Cowboy back to back super
Bowl it's probably it's probably.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
The best offensive line in the history of the game.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Tony Casillas, Mark Stepanovsky, remember that that group. Yes, Nate Newton, Yeah,
Larry Allen, he wasn't on that team. He wasn't. Hold On.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Are you sure Larry Allen wasn't on that team? I'm
the super Bowl teams. Yes he was. Let me go back,
he absolutely was.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Hold On.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Maybe he was. Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Was Nate Newton the guy that messed up with the
like a couple of big ones? No, Leon Letton, That's
what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, Larry Allan was on those teams. You're moren he
was born in seventy one.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Uh, Nope, he wasn't on those teams. Oh you know why?
Oh you're I'm original.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Well, he joined the Cowboys in ninety four.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
On those teams.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
That was the very Yeah, that was the very end.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
He was not on those I know those teams because
I covered those teams. He was not on those teams.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I do remember Nate Newton very well. I remember Stepannski
very well. Yes, I remember all that.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
What was your question, I said, are you too reliant
on just Courtland's side?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, here's what I'm getting at. In that series, in
that documentary, Troy Aikman would talk about how every time
he went back to pass, he just looked for eighty
eight Michael Irvin. They wont two Super Bowls thinking that way,
And when eighty eight wasn't open, he'd look for a
number eighty. And that's just the way it is. You
have your guy, you have your guy that you work with,
(05:54):
and you work to get him open. Hey, Brett, you
know the you know else? They had what's up?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
They had this guy twenty two, he's good too, who
ended up becoming the best rusher in the history in
the history of the league. They had that guy too,
But they had tight End that was Janovich was a
total stud I mean, they had They were absolutely stacked.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
By the way textas, I don't think he has heard
me correctly. Everybody's saying, what about the Mims pass from
last year? I said in the preseason, you have a
throw from Bonnicks in the preseason that wasn't to Courtland
Sun that you remember. I mean, I guess the ev
An Ingram thing, but that was more a catch and run.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But I think that.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Second game.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But I'm thinking that once we get into the regular
season and they are going to smash Tennessee in Week one,
You're going to see so much more implemented than we
saw in the preseason. You're going to see Ingram, You're
going to see for the first time Dobbins run the football.
You're going to have the two headed monster. I mean,
(07:03):
you're I think that it's going to look different and
it should behave differently than it did this preseason. So
I think that, Yes, while Courtland Sutton has been a
major safety valve for Bonnicks not only last year but
this preseason, I think more options will present themselves wide open.
Will we get two week one?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, I just hope you have a couple a couple
of different guys that you trust in the offense, and
I hope one of them is running back. To be honest,
I would love that more than anything that you could
rely on Dobbins or Harvey to either run the ball
effectively or catch the ball a fine open space coming
out of the backfield. Now another cut. Sam Franklin Junior
(07:47):
has been let go, the veteran safety and special teamer
for the Broncos. Now he was somebody they signed. I
think they plan on having him on the roster. I mean,
he got a guarantee of one point three million bucks
that they just ate on this. But I wonder if
there are some younger guys that have proven worthy enough
to eat the money.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Remember, there are also things going on behind the scenes,
like Tomorri Mathis getting cut. That cut was as much
a salary dump as it was a personnel move because
of the money he was making. Now, it would not
surprise me one iota if the Broncos went to Mathis
and said, let's work a deal. We'll keep you on
(08:28):
the roster for this number instead of the number you're making.
Take a look at what he's making or was due
to make. I think it was over three point five
million salary. Yeah, he had a pretty good hit, So
that's the kind of guy where you go to him
and say, listen, you're not quite on the depth chart
where we want you to beat for that number. Let's
trim that salary a little bit and make it a
(08:50):
little more tolerable. And probably chose not to do that.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Damn you, Right, how does this work? So he was
making eight hundred nine to nine thousand, year one, one million,
year two one point one on year three and then
it jumps a three point six hmmm, I mean must
have a contract backloaded the contract.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So, I mean his contract alone made him a target.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
If you're a periphery dB, if you're not a starter
and you're just trying to make the roster and you're
making that kind of money and it's not a ton
but it's depth money, yeah, then you're already a target.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
So I'm sure the Broncos approached him, said hey, we
want to keep you around, we love your game, work
with us.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Well they were, but the thing is vic according to
Mike Cliss, they were trying to trade.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Him trade the contract.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well, I'm just saying that means that they wouldn't. That's
not bringing him back as you're looking at it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
But at the end of the probably because yeah, he
didn't want that, and so they're like, well, then we'll
try to trade him, and then our last.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Hope is to go the first conversation is can we
can we make a deal? I mean, and that's the
that's a tough part about the NFL, right, I mean,
if they don't like how much money they're paying you,
they want you to rework the contract.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Can I ask you as a question of some other
news that happened yesterday where Trey Hendrickson, I still don't
think he's happy with this, but a lot happier than
he was two days ago, where they just said, all right, fine,
no more years, but how about a fourteen million dollar raise.
Nobody's going to be unhappy with fourteen extra million dollars
(10:27):
for a season. But what Trey Hendrickson wants is long
term security, which he is not getting out of Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Yeah, but he's it's either take this or don't play.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, if they're saying take this extra fourteen mili
and you'll be in the same position you were before,
that's pretty good. They're saying here's fourteen million just to
get your butt here into the facility and play football.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I know why they're hesitant to give him.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
He's thirty two.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
He's thirty years old?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Is he not?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
How old?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Is he? Help me out?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Well, he's yes, he's he's thirty. Okay, they if they
sign him to a So what is he making now?
Thirty one point six million bucks?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
He's caught right between a rock and a hard place
with his age and with the kind of salary he
can command.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
If they paid him that contract over like four years,
which is probably what he wanted, How the hell do
you fill the team when you're paying Burrow fifty some,
you're paying Hendrickson thirty two, you're gonna be paying little
Jamar Chase, like, is it forty million years? Well, they decided,
and then t Higgins is getting now twenty five to thirty.
(11:39):
I don't know what the number is.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They decided they're gonna throw the money at offense first.
That's just their approach. That's the that's their approach to Plane.
I mean, because we all know the.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Problem with Cincinnati's always been they can't score him.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Look at their look at their I'd love to see
their salary cap differentials between offense and defense.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
I'm trying to find that now, I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Sure it's just offense crazy. I bet it's like seventy offense.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
This is why the Broncos have to get while they
getting's good. I know they don't have a T.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Higgins and a Jamark Chase on their team, but they've
got a patzer Tan and he'll come up again. They've
got a Bonnix who's going to be paid paid, right, Yes,
I mean it's Vic. We think about that money. We
think about the Russ money, and it's like, man, if
(12:32):
you just had that Russ money, you could do this
and that and this and that and so on and
so forth.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Okay, you're right about that.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
So they're spending one hundred and sixty seven million dollars
on their offense in ninety eight on defense.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Pay you.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Well, then they're they're that was.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
After the fourteen million dollar rais by the way.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Okay, so then you're still going to have to be
teams thirty five to thirty that kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
So Vic think about this.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I mean, when Bonnicks is going to get paid and you,
I mean, that's gonna eat that up. And then you
had to pay your own guys again. You paid Courtland,
did you not? You paid Zach Gallen, Did you not,
I mean, you're gonna geta pay bonito?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Are you not?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Hold on a second, listen to this.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
For the twenty twenty five season, the Bengals are spending
a total of two hundred and seventy nine million dollars
on their cap. I don't know if that's with or
without this raise from Hendrickson, Burrow, Chase and Higgins consume
forty four and a half percent of just those three players.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, so it's that's that's, that's what they want. Though
they're spending money on offense.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
The entire defense is thirty five percent of their cap.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Exactly what I said, players, though, don't make excuses. Then
when the Cincinnati defense has trouble stopping people and everybody's
all over the Cincinnati d who is their decoordinator?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Lou it was?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I think he got fired Lou Emaruno. Remember that guy
in a Rumo, whatever the hell's name was, And I
remember last year they're giving him flak, and I'm like,
spend some money on defense, man.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Oh, do you know who their defensive coordinator is? Now?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Whoever it is? Good Luck thal Goldenvic, the former note Dame.
Oh yeah, that's right, Yeah, former Notre Dame DC.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Wait, was he he was the head coach of Miami
for a minute, wasn't he.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah? Yeah, he's been around.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Three h three five four nine two five. We have
more cuts coming today's. We'll keep you up to date
on all of those when we come back. Though, piece
of audio I think is interesting. Something Aaron Gordon said
is he is making his China tour much like Joker
did a few weeks back. Mentioned something about his approach
(14:46):
this season and a plan of his to improve upon.
We'll get to it next. It's very difficult to find
a guy who did what Aaron Gordon did last year,
which was improve his He was a let's be honest,
he's a bad shooter. He's bad from the outside, he
was bad from the free throw line, and then all
of a sudden he became a really really good one.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
A clutch one. Yeah, not a good one clutch as
well if you remember the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
So, ag, what's the plan this year?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Was maybe a top five in the NBA in three
point percentage?
Speaker 6 (15:18):
So now I'm just going to increase the volume and
hopefully increase the percentage as well.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Just for a second, what's the proper number of threes
you think for the Nuggets, because I know that they've
they went out and they got Cam Johnson, who shoots
a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
He shoots two more threes per game, two or three
more than Michael Porter.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Junior did Ag said he wants to shoot more threes.
Tim Hardaway will shoot three, Tim Hardaway, lets it fly.
The one the guy I want shooting more threes is
Jamal Murray.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, he needs to shoot more threes.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, I just I don't want. I know it wouldn't
get this far. I don't want to turn into the cellar.
Of course we're not.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
We're not talking Boston. We're talking God. Let me tell
you it was really good inside. They tell you, what's
the honey hole? What's the honey hole?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Of threes? You tell me.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I don't think there's a particular number on it. I
just think that if you're feeling it and you can
hit them, hit them, and if they're open, hit them.
I just think that the Nuggets too many times last
year the offense looked predictable. They go inside, trying to
go back outside, and they'd fashion a three that was
late in the shot clock. If there's a three that's
open early in the shot clock. That's wide open. You've
(16:28):
got to take it.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
What do you think is the average the average in
the NBA threes per game?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Okay, I know that Boston blew that wide open last year.
They've got the record right, threees per game.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I would assume, I'm I just looked up the average
the average NBA team's three point attempts attempts attempts.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I will say thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Damn think almost now the thirty seven and a half.
Thirty seven and a.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Half, Yeah, because the Nuggets were below average and the
Celtics blew that average up.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well. Though the Boston Celtics take north of forty per
sometimes fifty fifth per game. They take too many, way
too many. They take too many. And that's just part
of the game that I wish could change.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
But it's not because three is worth more than two,
and if you do the math, that's just the math. Unfortunately,
for teams like that that RELYI so much on the three,
what do you go to when it's not working. The
Nuggets have the best interior player in the league. Yeah,
so if you're not making threes, how many times you
find yourselves during the game because I do stop shooting threes?
(17:27):
Give it to fifteen. How many times do you do that?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
A lot?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, a lot? Right because they miss? Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Now, when they're making, you're not saying that, though, When
you're missing, what are you saying?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
I'm saying this, I'm going no, god, no, no oh
nice shot, nice shots, Thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And that's the honey hole. I guess. The honey hole
is you make enough to keep guys off jokers pass, Agreed, Agreed,
You see what I'm saying. Yeah, did you see.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Aaron Gordon's picture next to yel Ming? Oh my god,
he look so I'm thinking, remember Aaron Gord at Broncos
camp next to Broncos's huge, and then Eric So then
Aaron Gordon next to Yeo Ming. If you put Yao
Ming next to the Denver Broncos, I mean, this guy's
a giant, is yeall?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Like four hundo?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
He's gotta be up there now, it's huge. I did
a little thing when Yao Ming played for the Rockets.
I just wanted to stand next to him on camera,
and I walked up to half half court where he
was standing, and I just wanted to say I'd like
to just stand next to you if you don't mind.
And he looked at me like the hell you doing?
And my head reached the top of his waist his
belly button.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I was just thinking about this? Yao? Ming could still
get a job in professional sports. He could walk around
with a towel around his neck at Tampa Bay's training
camp and probably just fine.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Maybe would you want to be that big?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
No?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Now it depends on what comes with it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Like you could never ride a regular motorcycle, you could
never drive a.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Never want to be shack size. I think that would
be a miserable life, honestly, I really do. Outside of
the making millions of dollars, well, you could always sing,
but you'd have.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Your own planes, so you have your own plane seats,
you have your own.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Yeah, but I'm not but most I'm not going to
assume that I'm just an NBA player, Okay, I'm just
I'm just going I'm just a dude. I'm just a
dude who's seven foot three hundred and fifty pound guy.
That seems that would be tough, like a tough life.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Did you read the day the Guinness Book World Records?
Remember they had the world's tallest man. I forgot his name,
Robert Wad Yes, I remember reading about him and like, god,
I feel bad for this dude just hanging out here,
just all big, and he died or he died like
in his twenties.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
But think, I mean, think about it. You're over there.
It insernya in your shack, your shack size. You're not shacked,
but your shack size.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Trying to sleep on one of those little hotel did
you You're like half on even me, dude, even me,
and I shrunk an inch.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
That sucked.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
You're a shrinking man.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Well it just goes to prove to you that the world,
I'm so healing, shrinking man, the world.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Is more accustomed to guys my size. That's what the
world is made for.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, it really even me, Brett. I had my feet
a couple of times. I'm like, there's no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I am not a big dude.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
You are not.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Do not get my toes hanging over the edge.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Vick, you are so lucky that you you found the
queen when you did, and you weren't like I don't
know Nelly's age. I think like I was right at
the cutoff. There are women that demand your six ft
feet tall today, like you have to be six feet now.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You know this.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
I'm not making this up. It's a real thing.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Yeah, you got some height sticklers, especially on the dating apps.
But a short king's like us, we have a place.
We find our place.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Vic I didn't have any of those restrictions.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yeah, we're gonna talk to Adam Chefter at nine o'clock today. Uh,
here's another one. Courtney Jackson, the guy that we loved
most just waves. I think he could be a practice squad.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I think so too.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
But that again, there's another right there, there's another wide
receiver gun.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
There's that guy, Corney Jackson who in the first game,
remember he's back there returning punts and kicks and you're like, man,
this guy's got some pop. Yeah he's not making the team. Yeah,
this guy's got some pop.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
That's what I said to MOJ. You know what sucks?
I really like that guy. He has no chance at
making the team none. What's the story with at Perry?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Love the name? I love the name mid Camp?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, too many, too many of these initial first.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
R J J K A T.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Here's the thing. Are they gonna keep Are they going
to keep five on the team, right, Yeah, they're down.
They're down to six. Are they going to keep five
or six? They're down to six? And he's the last guy. Now,
he's a draft pick by New Orleans a couple of
years ago. He's a he's a Peyton guy. He's a
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six five two ten guy.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Well, these last guys, they're gonna go practice squad. All
these guys that were cut today are practice squatters. The
last cuts are practice squatters. So don't be surprised. All
these guys are coming back. They'll find a way back,
all right, or they'll find a way on another active
roster somewhere.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Well, yeah they will.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Well, here's the name another backup quarterback that's released. A good,
a good backup quarterback name Easton Stick has been let
go from Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Do you realize that Easton Stick played every single game
of the preseason for the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
In fact, I'm sure, I'm pretty sure he started every
single game of the Preseason's the other two quarterbacks Panics
and Cousins, and they are gonna play them, right?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
They didn't play Panics all preseason?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Correct, which is I think a mistake, that's I think so.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
But Eastern Stick East and Stick risked your life for
these three games and then you're gonna get cut afterwards.
But risk.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
But he probably knew that. The good part for him
is he's got a lot of film. Now. He didn't
play terribly, I don't think, but he played.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I mean he started every preseason game for the Falcons.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So again, we'll keep you up to date on on
some of these tots as they keep rolling through here.
I'm a little bit faster now. The Broncos is the today.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
We also, uh, you saw that that Tommy DeVito got
the acts in New York.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You expected that Tommy after eating the W over the weekend,
he was eating the W with Jameis Winston. I saw
that Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Russell Wilson was nowhere to be found, but they were
eating the W. Guntlets was laughing. Question for the three
of you, three veteran.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Quarterbacks, who will do the best, Who will do the worst?
Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco, who will have the
most success of those three? Who will fall flat on
their face and probably just leave Rogers?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Flaco Russ.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So you think Russ has the worst chance.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Now, No, to be fair, I don't think any of
them do exceptionally.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Well, what's when I say exceptionally?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
What?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
I don't think any of them are making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You don't think. I mean Flacco's not making the playoffs
in Cleveland. That's not happening.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
No, I don't think it's happening.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I don't think Russell has a chance of making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I think Rodgers has a chance. Pittsburgh, he has a chance.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Do you know who he's throwing the football though?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Too?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
He came Metcalf, He came met Calf, Robert Woods.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah, he had DeVante Adams last year in New York.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
I think he.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Always Yeah, I think you always have a chance in Pittsburgh.
So I wouldn't put.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
No, No, I I do. That's why I have him first.
I still don't think any of them are making the playoffs.
I think there's their hell knows with Flacco and Russell
Wilson and just I don't think so with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Do you think Russell Wilson will be the Giants starting
quarterback when they played the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Well, I don't think so week six? It is a
week five or six?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
It's seven?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Week seven?
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I think it's seven.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Are you sure? Help me out, Nelly?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Are you sure?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Apparently I'm not? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Seven?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
How could you be so sure?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Because I'm staring at it?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
It is week seven? Correct? I keep flipping the Jets
and the Giants.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Here's the thing, Jackson dark looked pretty damn good. He
really did. And we know as well as anybody young
quarterback looks good. If Russell Wilson struggles at all, how
loud is that going to be in New York? What
the rookie at?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Which is why I thought it was a weird marriage
from the get go, Russell Wilson to New York. And
then it just got louder and louder, like if it
wasn't loud enough here, Like I'm with you, do you guys.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Remember when we were talking pre draft and I and
this is when we thought your door was still gonna
get picked in the first round. But it was after
they got Russell Wilson and they signed Jameis and I
think both of you guys thought quarterback was like off
the table for them, that they weren't gonna draft somebody.
I was like, I don't they might still they might.
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And then look they passed that first time and then
trade back up at the late end of the first
round to take Jackson Dark. But he looked good. There's
going to be Russell Wilson I can't have. He can't mess.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Up well either way.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
I can tell you this.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
The Giants fans. Giants fans are over the moon about
their future with him.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
They're over the moon.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
They I think they have every right to be. Yeah,
he threw the ball really well. Know what else to say?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Well, this is what it's gonna look like for Russell Wilson,
and I feel bad because he is almost a sacrificial
land to start this season, waiting for Jackson Dark to
take over. Open against the Commanders, right the luck in Washington, Giants,
Cowboys the following week. What you want about the Cowboys.
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The Chiefs visit Jersey in week three. Have fun with
that one. The Chargers come the following week. Nothing easy there.
And finally the schedule relents a bit. They play the
Saints October fifth. After that, they've got the Eagles, the
Super Bowl champion, So five of the first six games
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they'll probably be the underdogs in five of the first
or at least four of the first six.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
They'll probably be the underdog in Denver.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Russell Wilson has to navigate that schedule early on, so
it might be screwed, dude, it might It might be
perfect for Jackson Dart to come in and so.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Here's what they're gonna do. You just laid it out, Vic.
But after that they play Denver in Denver, then they
play Philly and Philly. I'm pretty sure after that eighth
week they're like, thank you for your service, Russell Wilson,
get the hell out here and never come back. I mean,
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they could feasibly be one in seven by the time
they get to week nine. What did you laugh at moment?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Jackson Dart's got the same problem that Zach Wilson had.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Zach Wilson where here.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Oh, it's not a problem. If I know what you're thinking,
that's not a problem. I think it's rephrasing. Rephrase it.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
What's the deal?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Let me look, talk amongst yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Just just just talk to yourself, all right, Just talk,
just talk, because what you're doing Vick's get about to
have a heart attack. So hang on a second, shut
up and talk.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Shut up and talk.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
So I I think I have an idea of where
they're going with this.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
But I think that's it. Yeah that Oh okay, are
big big big? Are you?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Are you all right?
Speaker 4 (29:09):
So it is what I thought you guys forgot.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Problem?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Why is that a problem?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's not a problem.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Is it a problem you wish you had?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Moj not a problem?
Speaker 5 (29:20):
I do have it?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Good answer, good answer? Uh, anyway, I think, Yeah, you
want to talk about a sacrificial lamb? I mean, does
does Russey Russ doesn't even make it to the Broncos game.
There's no way the only game that they can win
in that first stretches like the same thing.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You realize, the older we get, the more of a
problem that is.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, oh now I get the Zach Wilson, I understand.
Any who.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, that's why I think that Aaron Rodgers, of those
three quarterbacks I listed Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Joe Aaron
Rodgers has the best chance to win, the best chance
to start the whole season, and the best chance to
make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Can I ask you to let me ask you another question.
With veteran quarterbacks, who do you think starts more games?
Aaron Rodgers or Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well that's it. Who's gonna stay healthy?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Stafford's got right this second, Stafford's got a bad.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
You know what, doesn't get better? You're back, Well, I
know you're back, doesn't just get better. And they're they're
doing this thing where they're like, hmm, Stafford's fine, he's fine.
I know he hasn't practiced for you know, like six months,
but he's fine. He'll be ready to It's like, okay, ye, no,
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Stafford doesn't need practice time. Okay, he's veteran enough where
he can figure it out on the fly. But how
many hits are you gonna be able to take? And
you guys have seen Stafford's wanting to take one right
in the chin, in the pocket if he wants to
make a throw. It's just like I.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Just, I just you know, with Aaron Rodgers, why do
I still think that this guy can play? I'm probably
incredibly stupid about that, but I feel like, Aaron, if
you got an opportunity to throw the ball to DK Metcalf,
I don't know, man, I think that a guy like
DK And and you know, Robert Woods is no spring
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chicken either, And He's had his own fair share of
injury history. But Calvin Austin, they've got some dudes there
that can catch the football.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I just take another year removed after his Achilles tear.
I think he'll be a little a little bit more
of himself.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
I do.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I mean, but he's you're talking about a guy who's
forty one years old, gonna he's gonna be forty two
before Christmas. So I just I don't know. I just
think this guy still has game left. And that was
his only landing spot. So let me go one more time.
Aaron Who's number two?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I had Flacco second Flacco?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Yeah, and then runs.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
You guys, remember last year when the Patriots had Jacoby
Brissette and they had Drake May and they're wondering who's
going to start and who is the coach? Then he
was only here for a year. Mayo basically goes the
offensive line camper text. So I'm not gonna put Drake
May out there, And I just looked at He's like me,
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get ready to die because I'm not going to do
that to the young guys.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Jacoby, man, come on, man.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Every time he dropped back for a past was just that.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
And the funny part is they're only there's only two
quarterbacks in Arizona.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Only two.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Okay, there you got two.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You've got Kyler Murray and you've got Jacoby Brissette. Come on,
man's that was pretty much poor Jacobe last year. He
he's gonna see some playing time.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
I'm pretty sure he is.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
He might. Uh. We can ask these questions to Adam Schefter,
who will join us in twenty minutes? Stick around? Can
I push this now?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I pushed mine? That was all on the air.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Oh uh Hey.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Reminder to you guys, we are giving away an Odyssey
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giving that away. And all you gotta do is text
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Speaker 1 (33:40):
What did Shockey come up with that word?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
No, who did Nelly? All right, you could tell Nelly
is not a golfer, does not play golf. Yeah, when
he comes up with the word that is.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Verbot Hold on, hold on, I know you swing to
all the credit. He goes, is that cool with you?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And I said, yeah, well again you want another golf
nerd who doesn't understand the ethics of the game. You
do not, You do not even whisper that word.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
I guess what, Vick. I hate to tell you something.
When I was playing my incredible career at Division two
baseball and I had a starting pitcher that was going
like five six innings deep with a no hitter, we
talked about it too. Do you know that? Welles the
guy who says, I don't I don't watch cartoons, and
I don't believe in your superstition stuff. Now all of
a sudden with his golf game because he's so mentally
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weak because he wept on a bench at a driving
range once, can't hear the word shank.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
It doesn't bother me, but there are a lot of
people who will never even utter that word.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Well, then don't get the potter.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I'm just saying, if you have a case of the
then just text the word get this putter, and it'll
fix it for you.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
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Speaker 1 (34:58):
A five iron. It's a potter. Potter's not fixing your shanks.
You can shank Putts right now.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
You push, you push, You can push your Yanka Pott.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
You can push your Yanka Pott. You can't shank a Putts.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Okay, I'll tell you what else you can yank.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm just saying it was a good cue.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Hey, Can I ask you guys just a quick question.
I was just looking at the Circus Sports and they
have all these futures odds, So I was looking at
some NFL stuff and then they had one that was
a that popped up, which was odds to win American
League MVP this year, in which the favorite is Aaron Judge. Again,
here's my question. Cal Rawley, the catcher out of Seattle,
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is having the one of the most incredible seasons for
a catcher offensively in MLB, got fifty Daners.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Fifty, the big dumper. How How?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
What?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Why wouldn't he win m VP? I mean, it's being
a catcher. Your entire life is kneeling. Have you ever
been in a squatted position? I do this a lot
now with you being in a squatted position for like
your entire year, and hitting fifty bombs feels impossible.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Let me speak for catchers. I've never been a catcher.
My kid was a catcher in the little league. I've
seen got I don't think there's a more disrespected position
in all of sports. Heck, they call their equipment the
tools of ignorance. You understand that, right, Yeah, the tools
of ignorance. And yet catchers are so profoundly impactful on
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every game, every pitch. It's amazing. I mean, they don't
get the respect they deserve. It really, it's it's astounding
to me.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, so you're a baseball guy, you tell me no,
but nobody there's a man. I'll tell you what I
think to a man. You ask any baseball player who
do they respect the most on their teams? The catcher,
because not only are you doing that, it's ninety five
degree heat humidity. What did eachio say about playing in
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Kansas City in August? It's hotter than two rats bleeping
in a socket and he got all that gear on.
It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I played baseball in my whole life, and on some
occasions I would get into the gear to catch VP
or into some late innings, right, I would come in
and get behind the plate.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
K fine, It is such a thankless job.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Who was the last catcher MVP? Piazza?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Probably Mike be Gary Carter? No, did Gary Carter win
the MVP?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Now Buster Posey one day?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Oh oh Yeahge Rodriguez?
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Did Pudge win?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Are you asking me these questions? I can't answer and
ask the guy to google it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Buster Posey was the last catcher to win it in
twenty twelve.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
By the way, my h do you.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Know the most decorated before that was Joe Maller Joe
Maher won one VIC.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yes, my lovely bride loves Buster Posey. That's her favorite
of all time.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Do you know the most catcher in the history of baseball?
The most decorated player in the history of base Johnny Bench,
Yogi Barra, It was the most decorated. Was nobody's won
more World Series more? I mean, look at his resume.
Pull it up.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
He's got a ton of World Series He's a three
time MVP, like and he's won one as a manager.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Pull him up.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yeah, Yogi was the man. But all I'm saying is,
you know it's that along with.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Let me verify this.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
To hang on, it's gonna make this is this does
not deserve this, does not deserve the squash what.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yogi ber right?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yogi Barra's got like all decorated player.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
In the He was also a gunner's mate on a
landing craft during the DNA invasion.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I know that read his book.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yogi was the man.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Okay, I didn't read, but he was wounded by enemy fire.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Here's the other thing, Cal, Now he's not going to
do this. I think sat is thirty games left, so
for him to get the Marris number, he'd have to
have eleven homers in the last thirty games. Probably not
going to happen. But if he gets close, do you care? Yeah?
But here's do you guys remember when Aaron Judge hit
sixty two three years ago and it just I thought
that would be a bigger deal than what it was,
and nobody seemed to.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Really because it was stolen from Marrus.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
We won't get into that, but keep in mind that
Cal Rawley is hitting two forty seven and Aaron Judge
is hitting three twenty three. Well, I mean we're talking.
I thought it'd be like a little bit of Judge
eighty points higher he's hitting.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
I understand that, but I thought it'd be a little
bit of Judge fatigue along with Catcher doing something.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
He's got forty dongs, dude, he's got I mean, yeah,
but he's incredible.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
But he's always incredible.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
But here's the deal, though, uh, Rawley's actually behind the
fricking dish every single pitch. Yeah, working his butt off.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I do think that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
It has to factor in what is Judge doing. What's
he doing.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
He's hanging out, hanging out, getting guys out.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah, I know you're You're totally right.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I think the I don't understand why Catchers don't get
more respect. I've never understood it, never will.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
But he's he's not a heavy underdog. But I think
if I remember right, Judge was like minus one thirty five.
He was plus one seventy five for al MVP.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
At six foot eight though, how fast, I mean, Judge
covers a lot of ground.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
He's got a huge stride up there.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
You know, Judge, Judge is one of the best players
of this generation. Yeah, I he does every He's got
a cannon of an arm. He's a good fielder. Everybody
remembers he's dropping the alcs.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
How how many put it outs?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Says he have this this year? How many putouts? Probably
a bunch.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Are you talking about assists or putouts? Put outs are
just catching the ball? I'm talking about both. I have
no y.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
How would I know that?
Speaker 5 (40:38):
I'm telling you?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
He covers a lot of ground? You know does He
doesn't look fast, but he covers.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
A lot of ground.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Your boy, goodman? Who Yeah, Hunter is obviously the other
big name catcher, big hitting catcher, who's done a lot
of things this year. That's the other thing that surprised me.
He didn't start as a catcher. They made him a catcher.
You would think that a position like that, you you
got grow up with it a little bit. They made
him that position.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
I want you guys to watch. I want you guys
to watch any catcher. If you're if you're maybe you
go to Coursfield one more time before the season. Answer,
you're just happen to cruise, buy a baseball game on TV.
Watch how many times a catcher, by the way, takes
a foul tip off the hand, takes one off the
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inside of the thigh and they go shake their hand
a little bit and they just ride right.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
So let me get let me get back to the
VP in the late ending crap. If you take one
square off the mask, it's dude, that's not fun.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
No fun.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So foul vica, foul tip off your mask not fun.
A foul tip on the inside of the thigh not fun.
Even a foul tip off the chest. Those dude, those
chest protectors back in the day could only do so much.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Brett, Yeah, it'll.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Do this to you.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
It's just it's a thankless job.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
A couple more here. Most the guy that we were
impressed by, uh this preseason in training camp, Calvin Throckmorton
has been let go.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Lee Man, he made the It's my favorite block of
the preseason.
Speaker 5 (42:16):
Throck Morton had it.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
They also let go of cornerback Jaden Robinson is another
Uh did.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
They Yeah, no, I was.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
He was going to make the team. But why do
you guys sound shocked.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Well, I'm not shocked.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
None of these has shocked me.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
That that.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Doesn't shock me. Worse Quintin Newsome.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
He's been let go as well.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Ah yeah, yeah, okay, So again another reaction that's on
the on the corners stoppers are like the receivers.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
The corners are like the receivers, Why are you reacting
like throck Morton. I thought maybe add an outside shot
to be an extra.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
It's gotten cut right now. It surprised me. Not a
single one.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Okay, so you've got on You got Sir Tan Moss
and and uh.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Johnny Baron and Abram Strain and Jakuon. Like that's a
lot of corners, man. Yeah, I guess by the way
from Giants camp, the Giants have cut little Jordan Humphrey.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Wow, they have.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Also cut Greg Dulcic. I saw that two former Broncos.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
That's crazy. So little Jordan Humphrey goes from a prominent
member of this offense to getting cut by a team
that's lesser crazy. Dulsich I thought I had a good preseason.
I watched the game.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
What happened with Dulciic? What happened?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Well, injury couldn't stay healthy here, he couldn't stay healthy.
The other issue was could he block to be a
prototypical tight end?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
So you're infatuated with his hair, Well, no, he's just
he's he's like an albert O guy.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
To me, it's like six foot five, can run and
it's like you couldn't fight, you can't find anywhere to stick.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
And the touchdown passes that he did catch, You're like, man,
he looks pretty good on that route.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Right, You're like, this guy's got a little.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
Something something non like he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
He can't block him, Like so eighty percent of the
tight ends in the league can't block it.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
It feels like I'm convinced too that a lot of
times a tight end their careers are made early, early
in their career when if they find the right fit quarterback,
the right chemistry, yep, and they get going and they're good.
But a guy like Dulcich couldn't stay on the field,
couldn't get going. He was so lost, you know, he
was a vagabond, ends up with the Giants, just trying
hoping to make your career gets away from you. Like,
(44:30):
think about it, Travis Kelsey's a Hall of Famer, But
what would he be without Patrick Mahomes? What would he
be with without that combination?
Speaker 4 (44:38):
He'd still be good?
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Would he be the same player?
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Well no, just like Gronk would be really good. But
if he didn't have Brady, like, he's probably not fat.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Well, here's what I do know.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Rock Bauers last year with Gardner Minshew and Aidan O'Connell
kicked at.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Point.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Imagine if he had a guy.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
Hey, let's make way for the return of Adam Schefter,
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