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Speaker 1 (00:03):
John twenty verses nineteen through thirty one. In the evening
on the day of Jesus' resurrection, the first day of
the week, the doors were locked in the room where
the disciples were for fear of the temple authorities. Jesus
came and stood among them and said, peace be with you.
Having said this, the Savior showed them the marks of crucifixion.
(00:27):
The disciples were filled with joy when they saw Jesus,
who said to them again, peace be with you. As
God sent me, so I'm sending you. After saying this,
Jesus breathed on them and said, receive the Holy Spirit.
If you forgive anyone's sins, they are forgiven. If you
retain anyone's sins, they are retained. It happened that one
(00:49):
of the twelve, Thomas nicknamed Didamis or Twin, was absent
when Jesus came. The other disciples kept telling him, we've
seen Jesus. Thomas answer was, I'll never believe it without
putting my finger in the nailmarks and my hand into
the spear wound. On the eighth day, the disciples were
(01:13):
once more in the room, and this time Thomas was
with them. Despite the locked doors. Jesus came in. Came
came in and stood before them, saying, peace be with you.
Then to Thomas, Jesus said, take your finger and examine
my hands. Put your hand into my side. Don't persist
(01:35):
in your unbelief, belief, but believe. Thomas said in response,
my Savior and my God. Jesus then said, you've become
a believer because you saw me. Blessed are those who
have not seen and yet have believed. Jesus performed many
other signs as well, sins not recorded here in the
(01:56):
presence of the disciples, but these have been recorded to
help you believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the only begun,
so that by believing, you may have life in Jesus' name.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
About six months ago or so, I was poking fun
at some old ancient liturgical words. They were xsihilation and insufhilation.
There's no pop quiz, and perhaps you weren't among us
at that time, but basically I had joked one was
(02:50):
like a liturgical blowout, while the other was just full
of liturgical hot air. But as I mentioned, the truth
behind those words were a priestly act of xuhilation was
to cast the evil that might be within one out
(03:15):
like heimlich maneuver if you think, or insuphilation like liturgical CPR,
or literally blowing the spirit of life within the infant
being baptized mouth. I see some of your faces already saying,
(03:36):
thank goodness, we don't do that now, and I agree.
But today's reading from the Gospel reminds me that our
lives sometimes needs a breath of fresh air. We need
that breath of peace that Jesus brings. Mary Catherine Hillcirt
(03:59):
Roman homiletics Professor. Homiletics is a big word that basically
means preaching preaching. Professor has often said the best sermon
a preacher can preach is letting two scripture readings argue
with one another. I've been having this argument in my
mind all week, for we end the first reading from
(04:23):
the Hebrew Scripture with God being a jealous God and
punishing for generations, down to the fourth for a parent's act,
and it continues down and then we have Jesus breathing
peace out among the disciples in my mind and invite
(04:46):
you to continue this argument within your mind this week.
How does an angry God or a God that is
jealous line up with Jesus, who's breathing peace among people. Now,
it's an argument that I think I have solved in
my own mind, and I may change my mind. But
(05:08):
is that sometimes we as humans imagine God being like
us and what we like or dislike. Surely God does
the same. So sometimes and it's true if we look
at some of the things in our own world, it's
something that happened in one family, something perhaps that is bad.
(05:30):
The next generation doesn't quite get over it. We still
remember that, well, this was, you know, part of you
know family, and then it gets passed down and we
sort of harbor those jealousies or negative feelings for a while,
sort of we create that own uneasiness in our mind. Well,
(05:52):
if our children play with their children, are they going
to turn out like you know, she did or he
did or they did? And I think this is where
we all need a bit of ensufhilation from Jesus. We
(06:14):
need Jesus to breathe out among us. I'm not saying
that Jesus needs to give us liturgical CPR or that
I need to do that, because I promise I won't.
But we sometimes need to reevaluate the world in which
(06:36):
we live, and as we know leading up to the
Easter story is a battle of powers, the powers of
the world and the powers of peace and a heavenly realm,
the power to keep things the way they are are
(07:00):
or the way we remember, and the power to give
it up for something else. And I imagine, like us,
like Thomas, that sometimes we have seen the scars and
(07:22):
the pain that this world can inflict on the body
of Jesus. The scars and the pain I don't think
Thomas is so much the part of being a doubter
as much as it is being one of the world,
the willingness to go on out there where the pain
(07:43):
might be, refusing to stay behind blocked doors of safety,
but to be our harbinger of peace. Yet perhaps we
need to be more like Thomas saying I will not
(08:03):
believe until I touched the scars. I'm not saying give
up belief, but doubt is part of our lives is
to realize if we are going to be people of peace,
sometimes we need to touch those places that have been
scarred by our earth and by the world and its people,
(08:27):
To go to those places where grief is real, to
go to those places where grief should not be the norm,
but more like here in the normans the northern hemisphere
of a bud finally emerging from the dirt and reminding
us that the cold and darkness of winter does not last,
(08:54):
That after night comes morning. Is that within us we
have the capacity to breathe out into the world something
that is different, something that not puts one party against another,
(09:17):
that doesn't create situations where we suspect all others to
be up to no good or up to scandal when
we don't agree, but to live into a world where
we can breathe peace. I was intentional earlier in the
(09:43):
service of asking you what does peace taste like? Sometimes
it tastes like a family reunion around the table where
finally everyone is welcome. Times the opposite of peace tastes
(10:05):
like the bitterness of smoke from weapons that gets into
your body and you just can taste it, even though
you cannot describe the taste quite literally. It's a taste
that's bitter. Perhaps perhaps we are called to be more
(10:31):
than just peace greeeders of shaking one another's hands, but
to be peace makers, to go out and to touch
those scars, just as Jesus presents to us to breathe
(10:53):
out all that we have known in Jesus ourselves. There's
many models for breathing out peace. And while I love
about the Gospel of John, at this point it tells
us there are so many other stories, but we've only
(11:18):
heard a few of them. I imagine in my own lifetime,
on a mission trip as a teenager in Houston, Texas,
a little boy which I've told some of you before,
of coming up as our youth group was working in
a kitchen that's passing out day old breads and doughnuts,
(11:41):
and this little kid come running up so excited that
he was getting his doughnuts today. Now these were not
the Krispy Kreme type that's down south where I'm from,
where they turn on a bright neon red light saying
hot doughnuts. Now, they said, had a couple of days
to cool down least, but this child was so excited
(12:07):
to have those things, which I cannot imagine perhaps eating myself.
Perhaps it's sometimes it's the smallest things that we do
in our lives that can bring peace. Now, I know
that peace is hard. It's not just sometimes to call
(12:29):
a truce, to call it over and leave the things
the way they were. But peace is to go a
step further, to examine what brought us to this place before,
(12:49):
not to just draw the lines, but to realize, how
can we collor beyond those lines? How are the people
on one side line and the other side steal one humanity?
Not enemies but brothers and sisters, my friends. I think
(13:13):
we are called to breathe in peace, but not hold
our breath, but to breathe it out and to make
the changes. For surely this world needs a bit of
liturgical CPR. So go in suphilate
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Man
John twenty verses nineteen through thirty one. In the evening
on the day of Jesus' resurrection, the first day of
the week, the doors were locked in the room where
the disciples were for fear of the temple authorities. Jesus
came and stood among them and said, peace be with you.
Having said this, the Savior showed them the marks of crucifixion.
(00:27):
The disciples were filled with joy when they saw Jesus,
who said to them again, peace be with you. As
God sent me, so I'm sending you. After saying this,
Jesus breathed on them and said, receive the Holy Spirit.
If you forgive anyone's sins, they are forgiven. If you
retain anyone's sins, they are retained. It happened that one
(00:49):
of the twelve, Thomas nicknamed Didamis or Twin, was absent
when Jesus came. The other disciples kept telling him, we've
seen Jesus. Thomas answer was, I'll never believe it without
putting my finger in the nailmarks and my hand into
the spear wound. On the eighth day, the disciples were
(01:13):
once more in the room, and this time Thomas was
with them. Despite the locked doors. Jesus came in. Came
came in and stood before them, saying, peace be with you.
Then to Thomas, Jesus said, take your finger and examine
my hands. Put your hand into my side. Don't persist
(01:35):
in your unbelief, belief, but believe. Thomas said in response,
my Savior and my God. Jesus then said, you've become
a believer because you saw me. Blessed are those who
have not seen and yet have believed. Jesus performed many
other signs as well, sins not recorded here in the
(01:56):
presence of the disciples, but these have been recorded to
help you believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the only begun,
so that by believing, you may have life in Jesus' name.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
About six months ago or so, I was poking fun
at some old ancient liturgical words. They were xsihilation and insufhilation.
There's no pop quiz, and perhaps you weren't among us
at that time, but basically I had joked one was
(02:50):
like a liturgical blowout, while the other was just full
of liturgical hot air. But as I mentioned, the truth
behind those words were a priestly act of xuhilation was
to cast the evil that might be within one out
(03:15):
like heimlich maneuver if you think, or insuphilation like liturgical CPR,
or literally blowing the spirit of life within the infant
being baptized mouth. I see some of your faces already saying,
(03:36):
thank goodness, we don't do that now, and I agree.
But today's reading from the Gospel reminds me that our
lives sometimes needs a breath of fresh air. We need
that breath of peace that Jesus brings. Mary Catherine Hillcirt
(03:59):
Roman homiletics Professor. Homiletics is a big word that basically
means preaching preaching. Professor has often said the best sermon
a preacher can preach is letting two scripture readings argue
with one another. I've been having this argument in my
mind all week, for we end the first reading from
(04:23):
the Hebrew Scripture with God being a jealous God and
punishing for generations, down to the fourth for a parent's act,
and it continues down and then we have Jesus breathing
peace out among the disciples in my mind and invite
(04:46):
you to continue this argument within your mind this week.
How does an angry God or a God that is
jealous line up with Jesus, who's breathing peace among people. Now,
it's an argument that I think I have solved in
my own mind, and I may change my mind. But
(05:08):
is that sometimes we as humans imagine God being like
us and what we like or dislike. Surely God does
the same. So sometimes and it's true if we look
at some of the things in our own world, it's
something that happened in one family, something perhaps that is bad.
(05:30):
The next generation doesn't quite get over it. We still
remember that, well, this was, you know, part of you
know family, and then it gets passed down and we
sort of harbor those jealousies or negative feelings for a while,
sort of we create that own uneasiness in our mind. Well,
(05:52):
if our children play with their children, are they going
to turn out like you know, she did or he
did or they did? And I think this is where
we all need a bit of ensufhilation from Jesus. We
(06:14):
need Jesus to breathe out among us. I'm not saying
that Jesus needs to give us liturgical CPR or that
I need to do that, because I promise I won't.
But we sometimes need to reevaluate the world in which
(06:36):
we live, and as we know leading up to the
Easter story is a battle of powers, the powers of
the world and the powers of peace and a heavenly realm,
the power to keep things the way they are are
(07:00):
or the way we remember, and the power to give
it up for something else. And I imagine, like us,
like Thomas, that sometimes we have seen the scars and
(07:22):
the pain that this world can inflict on the body
of Jesus. The scars and the pain I don't think
Thomas is so much the part of being a doubter
as much as it is being one of the world,
the willingness to go on out there where the pain
(07:43):
might be, refusing to stay behind blocked doors of safety,
but to be our harbinger of peace. Yet perhaps we
need to be more like Thomas saying I will not
(08:03):
believe until I touched the scars. I'm not saying give
up belief, but doubt is part of our lives is
to realize if we are going to be people of peace,
sometimes we need to touch those places that have been
scarred by our earth and by the world and its people,
(08:27):
To go to those places where grief is real, to
go to those places where grief should not be the norm,
but more like here in the normans the northern hemisphere
of a bud finally emerging from the dirt and reminding
us that the cold and darkness of winter does not last,
(08:54):
That after night comes morning. Is that within us we
have the capacity to breathe out into the world something
that is different, something that not puts one party against another,
(09:17):
that doesn't create situations where we suspect all others to
be up to no good or up to scandal when
we don't agree, but to live into a world where
we can breathe peace. I was intentional earlier in the
(09:43):
service of asking you what does peace taste like? Sometimes
it tastes like a family reunion around the table where
finally everyone is welcome. Times the opposite of peace tastes
(10:05):
like the bitterness of smoke from weapons that gets into
your body and you just can taste it, even though
you cannot describe the taste quite literally. It's a taste
that's bitter. Perhaps perhaps we are called to be more
(10:31):
than just peace greeeders of shaking one another's hands, but
to be peace makers, to go out and to touch
those scars, just as Jesus presents to us to breathe
(10:53):
out all that we have known in Jesus ourselves. There's
many models for breathing out peace. And while I love
about the Gospel of John, at this point it tells
us there are so many other stories, but we've only
(11:18):
heard a few of them. I imagine in my own lifetime,
on a mission trip as a teenager in Houston, Texas,
a little boy which I've told some of you before,
of coming up as our youth group was working in
a kitchen that's passing out day old breads and doughnuts,
(11:41):
and this little kid come running up so excited that
he was getting his doughnuts today. Now these were not
the Krispy Kreme type that's down south where I'm from,
where they turn on a bright neon red light saying
hot doughnuts. Now, they said, had a couple of days
to cool down least, but this child was so excited
(12:07):
to have those things, which I cannot imagine perhaps eating myself.
Perhaps it's sometimes it's the smallest things that we do
in our lives that can bring peace. Now, I know
that peace is hard. It's not just sometimes to call
(12:29):
a truce, to call it over and leave the things
the way they were. But peace is to go a
step further, to examine what brought us to this place before,
(12:49):
not to just draw the lines, but to realize, how
can we collor beyond those lines? How are the people
on one side line and the other side steal one humanity?
Not enemies but brothers and sisters, my friends. I think
(13:13):
we are called to breathe in peace, but not hold
our breath, but to breathe it out and to make
the changes. For surely this world needs a bit of
liturgical CPR. So go in suphilate
Speaker 1 (13:36):
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