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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The transformation of a legendary opera singer into a recluse
might sound like fiction, but Maria Callis's final days tell
us something profound about the price of genius and fame.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
That's fascinating. How this woman who commanded stages worldwide ended
up essentially imprisoned in her Paris apartment. What do you
think drove someone so powerful to such isolation.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, the new film Maria starring Angelina Jolie really dives
deep into this question. You know what's striking. By nineteen
seventy seven, Callous was only fifty three years old, but
she was already living like someone waiting for the final
curtain call.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The timing of her decline is particularly tragic. Most opera
singers can perform well into their sixties or even seventies,
but here was Callous popping pills and having hallucinations while
still relatively young.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You know what's really interesting about how Pablo Lauraye directed this.
He uses this technique of switching between black and white
and color footage plus actual archival material of Callus performing.
It creates this dreamlike quality that mirrors her mental state,
that reminds.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Me of what he did with Jackie this way of
blending reality and fantasy to get at a deeper emotional
truth exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And speaking of emotional truth, let's talk about Aristotle Onassis.
Here's a man who pursued Callous while she was still married,
only to later try to silence her greatest gift. He
literally told her to stop singing.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's like telling van Go to stop painting or Beethoven
to stop composing. It shows such a fundamental misunderstanding of
who she was.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well, the film really emphasizes how this relationship devastated her.
You know, before onasas Callus had revolutionized opera, she wasn't
just a singer. She was known as La divina for
her dramatic intensity and vocal control.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
The way they portray her loyal staff members, especially for Ruco,
really grounds the story. These people watched her decline firsthand,
trying desperately to help someone who seemed determined to self destruct.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And what's fascinating is how the film handles her famous
diva personality. She's shown as aloof and dismissive, but also
desperately craving adoration. It's like watching someone trying to hold
on to their reflection in a breaking mirror.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
That's such a powerful image, and when you consider her background,
the poverty, the difficult relationship with her mother, it adds
another layer to her need for validation.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
You know what really gets me the scene where she
attempts to sing again and fails. It's not just about
losing her voice, it's about losing her identity. For an
opera singer, your instrument is literally part of your.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Body, so when that goes, there's no replacement, no second act.
It must have felt like watching yourself disappear.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
The documentary crew subplot really drives us home. Here's this
former I being asked to revisit her glory days while
she can barely hold herself together. It's like being forced
to attend your own funeral.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well that's what makes this story so universal, isn't it.
It's about what happens when the thing that makes you
special starts to slip.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Away exactly, and Jolie's performance captures this perfectly. She shows
us both the diva and the desperate woman beneath. It's
interesting how she even did some of her own singing,
though there was lip syncing involved too.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Looking at the bigger picture, this film seems to be
asking some pretty profound questions about the nature of talent
and identity.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That's right, and it's particularly relevant today when we think
about how we treat aging performers and artists. The film
really makes you question our culture's obsession with youth and perfection.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The way they weave in her past, from her childhood
to her glory days, creates the sense of time collapsing,
much like Callus's own experience seems to be.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And in the end, what makes this film so comple
is how it manages to be both intimate and epic.
It's about one woman in an apartment in Paris, but
it's also about art, fame, love, loss, and the price
we pay for greatness.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's such a perfect way to look at it. They've
turned her life into the kind of dramatic narrative she
might have performed on stage, while still maintaining its essential truth.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well, if there's one thing we can take away from
this story, it's that even the most extraordinary talents are
ultimately human, vulnerable to the same fears and losses as
the rest of us. Maybe that's what makes Callus's story
so enduringly powerful. You've been listening to movies first available
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Speaker 2 (04:44):
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Speaker 1 (04:47):
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