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October 24, 2025 53 mins
Erick and Rich discuss whether or not we’re in an AI bubble and how much MSPs should be worried if we are, before exploring strategies for increasing profitability and client retention by selling outcomes instead of tools. Then they’re joined by the co-founders of Titan, a venture capital-backed A.I. software company/MSP rollup that’s building something totally new in the history of managed services. And finally, one last thing: Beware the surf-jacking otter of Santa Cruz, Calif. 

Discussed in this episode:
Are we in an AI bubble?
Move Over, Private Equity. Venture Capital is Investing in MSPs Too.
Shield Technology Partners Is Building Something Totally New in Managed Services
Surfboard-stealing otter attacks resume at California beach 

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