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October 31, 2023 113 mins
Join us LIVE, Halloween Night, October 31st 8:00 PM EST (6:00 PM MST) on MUFON \"WHAT’S UP\", Katie Paige, Shane Hurd, and Tara Diulus will be talking with special guest David Morehouse.
David Morehouse, Ph.D., is an international best-selling author, educator, and the only U.S. Army Special Operations Combat Arms Officer ever to be trained in the intelligence collection protocols of Coordinate Remote Viewing (CRV) and Extended Remote Viewing (ERV) by the Defense Intelligence Agency's Directorate of Science and Technology.
In his book Psychic Warrior, Dr. Morehouse became the first person to reveal to the public that Remote Viewing was scientifically developed and validated by the C.I.A. as a viable, accurate intelligence collection methodology used for decades by the United States Intelligence Services.
Since 1995 he's trained tens of thousands of Remote Viewers.
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Governments denight, militaries deny, eventhe mainstream media denies it. But they
are here, and they've been herefor a very long time. The Mutual
UFO Network has been on the frontlines uncovering the truth since nineteen sixty nine,
and now we're sharing that truth withyou. Welcome Move On. What's

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Up with your hosts Katie Paige,Shane Heard and Tara guy Juis exclusively on
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is here. My guest from lastweek, Heidi Hollis, might have something
to say about that, but hey, love you, Heidi. Just have
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that all important question. Are wealone in the universe? And I want
to wish everybody out there a veryhappy and safe Halloween from your friends here
at moof on What's Up. Ihad fun making that graphic, so I

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hope you guys all have a funHalloween tonight. I'm glad you're here with
us. Boy, do we havea special guest for you tonight. We
have David Moorhouse, international best sellingauthor and educator in both Coordinate Remote Viewing
CRV and Extended Remote Viewing ERV andwe're gonna learn more about that coming up
here shortly. And you know,it's not very often we get to talk
about the Colorado ranch that has personalties to me, but David Morehouse did

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this incredible project with Beyond Skinwalker forthe Rocky Mountain ranch, and we're gonna
do some digging into what the remoteviewers came up with when they remote view
to this ranch. So I'm superexcited to have him on the show with
us tonight. Unfortunately, Shane Hurdwon't be with us tonight. He has
family commitments, So we miss you, Shane. We hope to see you
back next week. But let's bringin our co host, Tara Diulis.

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You can also see Tara right hereon Live Skytour Live stream with Mark D'Antonio
Terra. Oh my goodness, we'rehaving fun. Can you tell, my
gosh it is? You know,it's just last This is lime punch.

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Lime punch is good on Halloween.Anyway, what you got first tonight,
Tara? Oh? Well today,you know it's it's gonna be a fun
night. I can tell. Andso today's mean. We'll start out with
that. Dracula and Alien are flyingin the UFO, and the Alien says
to Dracula, you know it's gonnabe a long fly. You should get

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some sleep, and then Dracula replies, yes, but the horrible drag.
Yes, but first the favor Imust ask of you, horrible. Next
you see, of course, Draculasleeping as the UFO is flying upside down.

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Okay, well, in honor ofHalloween and jack oelenders everywhere, we
have a fun short video for youtoday from the amazing folks at pumpkinmasters dot
com. Check that out, GuysChanel, can you please run that first
video? That's fun, that's awesome. So those are the folks from pumpkinmasters

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dot com, so check them outand for all your pumpkin carving deeds.
They have color changing lights, carvingkits and patterns and you know plan ahead,
make a note for next year.And here's some other fun little pumpkin
jack o' lantern carvings with Ufosat.I love that he has a little yaf
in the background. I like thered light on that one almost looks like

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a gourd. And then there's acouple more. There's the one. I
think we saw that one in thevideo. He's very serious looking. Oh
that's cool in that need. Ilike how it glows, so I've carved
it very thin. Ooh, watchout, that's so so. Also found

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on Etsy are Rosebud chocolates and theycome in all sorts of shapes and flavors.
And here we have green chocolate aliens, so you can order a dozen
as a gift or to share withfriends, and they're really good. These
are vanilla and they'll wrap them andmake them in any colors. You can
use them for all lots of sports, such a special event, so to

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speak. So so that's it.So again, those are Roadsebuds chocolates and
they can be found on Etsy alongwith everything else in the world almost so,
you know. And at this pointI would normally hand it over to
Shane. However, he's having afamily commitment, like you said, and
in his absence, I wanted toshare with you what I won during the

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raffle at the last Weekend's move Onmeeting. And she will always win raffles.
I love it. Give me someonethat this way, bah, I'm
going to pop that picture up realquick. Here it is right there.
What do you think of that?So have you heard there? We have
Shane on an alien pace that's cool, cool, really soft T shirt,

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so I think those might be forsale at some point. Were money rolls
over next year things and shanehead that'sso funny. Oh my god, it's
really cool. But that was ahot item and I really am am fortunate
to have won that, so awesome. Yeah, So Katie, what do
you have going on for us today? Well? I have a very shortcase

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of the week. I thought itwould be cool to kind of see if
we have any reports in CMS froma Halloween night, and we didn't have
any last year, but we didhave one. Let's see me pull on
my notes. Okay, next caseone two zero seven zero one Category one
Case Curt October thirty, first,twenty twenty one, out of Darrell,

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Texas at seven forty five pm,right around the time people are out trick
or treating. So basically the witnessdates Halloween evening observing trick or treating.
The wife and I turned all outdoorlighting and sat behind our pickup trucks close
to our garage door so as notto attract anyone onto our property. Bob
Bud, I hate when people dothat. Not your thing, white kid's

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dam Okay, I'm not judging eatingit themselves. No, my mommy's a
time judge it. Anyway, ourneighbor had come out as well around seven
thirty, so now we have threewitnesses PM to chat. Then went back
inside his house at around seven fortyseven forty five, thinking my neighbor was
outside, I looked over in thedirection to his house, which is north

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of us, noticing that he wasn'toutside. I looked back up to the
northeast sky and noticed what looked likean outline of a large owl coming in
our direction. I thought this owlpart was interesting because of Mike Cloland,
you know, in his research withowls and neupos ideas. Anyway, as
it flew closer, what seemed outof the ordinary were three dimly light orbs

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where the breast of the owl wouldhave been as soon as I approached overhead.
As soon as it approached overhead,I knew it wasn't what I thought
I was viewing. It wasn't theowl as shown in the drama. The
video I created, I could makeout the shape of what I told my
wife was Batman's battering. So theBatman symbol is what it looked like.

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And he sketched it and did avideo which I'm going to share in a
minute without the point on the tail, three dimly light orbs centered in a
chevron paper shape, and what appearedto be a piece of glass reflecting either
light from the ground or the starsshining through the object. This case was
closed as an unknown UAV. Solet's first start with the image that the
witness sketched. There we go,So, yeah, the three dimly lit

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things, and he said this wasa pretty low elevation. It flew silently
right over his head. And thenhe created this little video, which I
thought was pretty cool. So Chanel, if you could please run that video.

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So the point being is when you'reout there trick or training tonight,
keep your eyes up to the skies. You never know, never know.
I over your heads. Did youget a Mars case this week? Tara,
Well, well, for today's Marssegment, I thought it might be
fun too and interesting to look at. As to a few more citing sketches,

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Yeah, we looked at the youknow, figures of creatures last time,
and so I pulled together sketches fromnumerous files and and so we're just
Chanelle. You can just run throughthese. This is from October of two
thousand, October thirty, first,two thousand in Trenton, Missouri. This
is from October seventy five and Meridium, Connecticut. Wow. Yeah, this

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is from November seventy seven in Charlotte, North Carolina. And those are all
lights. Yeah. I love theseventies. Man, we had like closer
encounters were structured craft lights, beams, uniforms with emblems. It was a
different time in the seventies, itwas. And look at that one retractable
lights on it too. And Idon't know if you saw those, but
this one is from batt Eva inNew York. I probably said that wrong.

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I apologize, but that's from nineteenninety two and it has a bunch
of lights along the bottom. Thisis kind of a very nice illustration.
You can see all the different typesof you know, skills people have and
relaying what they saw, just likeyour case, Katie, the witness did
that video on their own. Younever know what you're going to get in
these. So the next one isfrom This one's from August of eighty three

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in Dairy, Pennsylvania. How bigthat thing was in front of them,
okay, you know, and allthe lights around it had a hatch.
This is from August of eighty six. It's an unknown location. The next
one is from September of nineteen eightyfrom Anderson, South Carolina and black Steel

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and you know, big big thingthat looks like a shower head. But
this was from August of ninety sevenin Florida. That's funny. This next
one is from September of seventy twoSandeville, Illinois. And it's interesting.

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It looks, you know, italmost looks like a grenade, but all
these different shapes and the red flickeringlight at the top of that. The
next one is September of seventy three. This is a round metallic ball and
a lot of those sly you know, I've seen them myself, so I
believe in the metallic balls floating inthe middle of nothing, and they're there.

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Okay. The next one is fromNovember of seventy three in Clinton,
Missouri. Yeah, and this nextone is cool. It's a pyramid shapes
and that's from November of eighty eightand rally, North Carolina. So this
guy gave us the sides of thefront and the bottom. He was able
to distinguish all those sides. Veryinteresting. Oh wow, okay, yeah,

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this is that is from Flagstaff,Arizona from ninety three. It looks
like a balloon to me. There'sseveral of them in the air, and
I wonder if that's what those were. I don't know. These, Yeah,
these are some boomerangs boomerang excuse mefrom Heron, Indiana. And I
guess the second one from the topis the one that most resembled what he

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saw is what the notes said.Excuse me, all right. So next
we have this is from September ofeighty six in Evansville, Indiana. To
me, pardon me, let meget a sip real quick. The dumples
look like a missile. Well asurfboard shark are a shark? So they

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had the next one shows Yeah,here's one from Stratford, Connecticut that's kind
of similar to those others. Ithas fins as well. To me,
that looks on like a an AirForce jet. There's something, but it's
hard to say. It's hard tosay. Okay. So then here we
have another one with fins. Waita minute, from seventy six in the

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same case, because it's let's see, this is, yes, it is.
This is the one drawn after thewitness sketches, so they must have
got out of order there, sothat one was first, and then they
had the artist draw this next onehere. Okay, I thought we were
on to something there for a minute. Yeah you are, Katie, You're
just you're on it. Okay.So this one is from September eighty seven,

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Greensburg, Pennsylvania, and it almostto me looks like a blamp,
but it was seen over the greenGate Mall parking area, so who knows,
we're flattened out mask It has theholes on the end, you know.
Yeah. Really. This one isfrom September of eighty nine, Kalamazoo,

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Michigan. So there were two independentwitnesses and this is though, drawing
from the first witness, so itkind of reminds me of a transformer.
And then the next the next imageshows the second witness. It's what they
saw very yeah, and they didn'tknow about each other, which is cool.

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Cool, Yeah, I wonder whatthat is. Okay. So the
next one, this is from WestSaint Paul from September of nineteen ninety looks
like my coffee table levitated. Notnot making fun of them, but this
is a strange looking one. Youknow, we do get. People don't

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realize how many reports we do getof squares and cubes. And we'll check
out the next one. Katie,shouldn't be flying. There's too much,
too much business. Yep. Doesthis look like something like you've seen boxes?
You know? So this is fromSmithport, Pennsylvania and from nineteen eighty

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four October eighty four. Very strange. That's five feet by two and a
half feet, not very big.Classic. And then we have just a
few you can run through these chanel. These are just our little classic UFOs,
just little saucer shape, some withwindows, some with lights. This
one had grid and iron looking gridon the bottom of it. Mm hmm.

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Another classic shape, some rays comingdown. And this is that's coppy
how it looked at night and therewe have our head awesome hard appropriate.
Yeah, so anyway, wouldn't thatbe great? So look up you might

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see the Flying Pumpkin, the GreatPumpkin whatever that is. Watched that earlier
today? Oh did you? Oh? Funny? I mean I go to
rock Charlie Brown. God, heonly got rocks. We got wrong every

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every Halloween. It's just a classic. You gotta watch it. Yeah,
it is, it's great. Well, that was fun looking at all those
sketches. Hope you enjoyed them.So now put the alien sketches together with
you have both sketches. Okay,it's a test right awesome. Well,
without Shane here doing the have youheard segment, we're a little bit early

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this time, but we need allthe extra time with David Morehouse's we get
so I say let's bring him inon the show early. Let me read
his Bible, will get so.David Morehouse, PhD And first I would
like to thank David for his manyyears of service. So thank you for
your years of service. Is aninternational best selling author, educator, and

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the only US Army Special Operations CombatArms officer ever to be trained in the
intelligence collection Protocols of Coordinate Remote Viewingc r V and Extended Remote Viewing er
V by the Defense Intelligence Agencies Directorof Science and Technology. In his book
Psychic Warrior, doctor Morehouse became thefirst person to reveal to the public that

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remote viewing was scientifically developed and validatedby the CIA as a viable, accurate
intelligence collection pathology used for decades bythe United States Intelligence Services, and since
nineteen ninety five he's trained thousands ofpeople on remote viewing. He has a
fantastic website and wonderful courses and wonderfulbooks. So please welcome to the show.

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A happy Halloween to David Morehouse.Hey, hi, I it's good
to be here. Yeah, it'sreally good. I'm happy. Where's your
cost? I'll just talk that.I love it. Good stuff. You

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gotta laugh, you gotta laugh.We have a good time on this show.
You have to have a good timethis day and age, right,
I mean come on, Well,if you don't, you're just gonna go
out and like shoot yourself in theface. I mean, yeah, you
know, that's what it's like.It's like everybody's oh, it's so horrible,
it's never gonna get better. Well, I'm older than most, I'm

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older than all of you. Solet me just tell you it has its
ups and downs. But don't shootyourself in the face. No, please
don't. And you know, Iknow it's trouble sometimes, but hey,
we we are pretty living in prettygood days right now. I have to
say, you know, it mightget a little bit worse before it gets
better. Yeah, tombs up,thumbs up from Dave. You know,

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it's like, yeah, you know, it's all her zombie Okay, anywhere
zombie bacteria virus you're using ship themover to my house if it gets really
bad, I'm just gonna self inject. Oh man, okay, I want

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to start out with you, DavidBye, if you can explain to me
in our viewers what the difference betweenc r V and e r V is.
Let's start and then sure, Idon't actually know. I'm just kidding.
Actually I do. I know verywell. I just wanted to see

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you both like, holy crowd,We hold me? Was supposed to so
chick a tree. Yeah, cr V is. It was originally called
Coordinate Remote Viewing. You're going tosee it called everything under the Sun at

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this point, even by some ofmy former colleagues in the unit, they
call it something different because if youunderstand the history of where removing actually came
from, and you kind of wantto start there, maybe that's a better
place to start. Oh, youwant me to back up ten years,

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like ten years, ten years backwards? Okay, Katie said it ten years
backwards. All right, So herewe go. I mean none of this
was none of none of this humanability had labels and titles and other things.
I mean, in truth, yesit did. I mean, if

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you go look up human extrasensory perceptionand all the titles go with it,
you're going to find seventy two unlesssomebody's made some up that I've not aware
of right now, seventy two differentcategories of this from psychokinetics, psychesis,
clairvoyance, claar, audience clare,sentience Claire. Now back back. It

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goes all this stuff, everything fromShawmanism to you name it, right,
and none of that has none ofthat is remote viewing. I mean,
all of it has a finger intoan ability with the remote viewing, but
that's not where that's not what remoteviewing was. Remote viewing started from the

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CIA being given information that that theSoviets at the time and the Chinese,
but particularly the Chinese, were goingout into the country it's a big country,
China and finding finding youth, likethey don't care what age. Anybody
that the village in that province saidwas weird had an ability that was beyond

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what other people did. Male orfemale. They would scarf them up,
take them back, and they werecollecting them. And then their intention was
to evaluate them, train them,mold them, shape them, to use
them as an intelligence collection tool.Because look, if you understand the intelligence

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services and what they're all about,it's about collection. It's about using whatever
means are available to you human siganvotent elent. You know, it used
to be like there were these inmy day. It was like, oh,
there's like the standard five and beyondthat it was very exotic. Now
there's like thirty five. There's likethirty five different ways in which they scarf,

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or the term is scrape. Theyscrape intel. We scrape intel.
Now we scrape it off everything you'redoing. So if you think you're in
the coach store buying a purse andand nobody knows, they know, and
if they think that you're you know, a target for some reason, they

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know you're in a coach store buyinga purse, and well, how much
the purse costs and how long youshop for other purses, And then they're
gonna go like, you know,she must be being paid by somebody or
he, and then they go offand they look at that and they go
back back back, and that's whatthey do. So now they know before
I know, sometimes they know,they actually do. If you guys keep

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playing with Google. Yeah, Ican't tell you the number of times i've
any classified breathings when actually Google executivesare in there trying to go and you
have to understand what's happening, andgenerals will be back there going, yeah,
don't don't we do something like that, and everybody be like, well,

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yes, sir, we do.Yeah, Well we don't give a
shit if Google does it. It'slike okay, So the guy'd be like,
okay, I'm in the wrong place, you know, walk away at
three star general sitting there. Yeah, we already do that. We do
that. So it's you're being capturedby so many places anyway, it was

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just ridiculous to see that. Butback to the story. So they find
this out and so they're like,this is important, and the director of
the CIA at that time, turnsaround and goes, are we doing this?
No, No, we just gotour asses handed to us with MK
Ultra. No, we're actually notdoing anything related to this. And he's

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like, well, we need todo something, so you need to put
that all together. The same guySydney Gottlieb who got in trouble with MK
Ultra as the guys turning around nowbeing given the mission. You know,
the Soviets and the Chinese are doingthis. They're pulling all these people in
that are natural gifted psychics, youthfulor otherwise, and they're trying to use

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them to spy on us. Isthis real? Can they really do it?
Now? You have to as peoplein a free society, go fricking
cool, you know, like weactually had people going like yeah, you
know, we should we should figurethis out, like are they really doing
it? And that's what happened.That was the genesis of this. They

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turned around and went instead of liketorturing people to decide whether or not you
know, they were going to giveup something if you you know, withheld
food or playing cards or something elsefrom them, it was like now you
actually had them going after like isthere actually an ability and humankind and the
collective global you know, society ofhumans. Do human beings actually have an

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ability to see something just sit inspace time? Do they have that ability?
That was deliverable? Number one?So in the contract, So they
put out a contract request for proposalsSRI Stanford Research Institute International, which used
to be part of Stanford but brokeoff to be an independent research agency,

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which happens often, right, theybroke off, and they put in a
proposal with targ and put off.Russell Targ, Harrow put off, both
laser award winning laser physicists put theiryou know, the bid in for the
company to do the research on this, which would have been intriguing, right,

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A few were them. But interestingly, now if you go back to
SRI International and you go back insearch to their webpage, now there's no
mention of what these guys did notand whatsoever. It's not even talked about.
But these guys put forward their proposaland the CIA turned around apparently according

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to you know, the analysis andrequirements. I'm not sure what the CIA
is contracting. You know, requirementsare for deliverables, I know what they
are for Department of Defense and Departmentof State. But I'm not sure what
the CIA does. But they turnedaround and went, you know, thumbs
up. You get a soul sourcecontract. A soul source contract means that,

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in late terms, nobody else isqualified to look at this in the
way that you're qualified to look atthis or perform this. Right, So,
soul source contract, and they gaveit to them. Now, the
deliverables, and I'm going to distillthis down considerably, were three parts.

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One, can you prove scientifically thatthere is a human ability to see distant
in space time and report accurately onwhat your perceptions are distant in space time?
Two? Can you identify which individualsare or have a propensity for this?

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In other words, if they're harvestingindividuals out of their different provinces provinces
in China or out of different youknow, cities or countries in the Soviet
Union, what do we need tobe looking for? You know, what
do we need to go after sowe can bring them in and mold them
and shape them. Yeah, whatare we looking for? What individuals are

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capable of this or capable of learningthis? And then the third deliverable and
there were many deliverables in between allof these, but the third major deliverable
in the contract was and can youreplicate it? In other words, can
you train these individuals that you select? Can you train them to do what

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the other individuals can do, whichmeans you have to now identify a protocol,
a training protocol that says that wewill standardize is what everybody is doing.
Because if you're an intell intelligence analyst, you can't have fifty people coming
up with every variation of their perceptionsof something, and then you're supposed to

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blend that together, find correlation anddecide, you know, what's usable to
send for able forward, which iscalled actionable intelligence. So those were the
three major deliverables, and so howdid they do right? It was very
shortly. They came back within ayear, came back and said, we

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have absolutely proven that there is ahuman ability to see distant in space time.
Cool absolutely proven. So if you'rea skeptic, bone you go question
what Stanford Research Institute International produced andbone you. Because the CIA didn't take
what SRI produced for face value.They turned around and said, well,

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we're going to hire an auditing agencyto come in and make sure that your
stuff is scientifically viable, you know, and you know it's publishable if we
chose to do that. But thatnow, look, the CI didn't do
that. CIA didn't do it becausethey thought it was the right thing they
do. They did it because theydidn't want to get their ass and a

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ringer. They The CIA is alwaysabout keep somebody between you and the problem
or potential problem. So in thisparticular case, it was go find research
agency agencies that would be auditing agenciesto go look at what Stanford SRI did
and tell us is it good?Is it vile? Is it? Is

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it supportable? Does it? Isit work? Is a good science?
So the research agencies did and twoof them, two independent research agentcsies he's
paid for by the CIA, wentinto look, came back and said it's
good. You know, modifications here, a slight changes there, you know,

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to eliminate some investigator bias and thesekinds of things, but otherwise good
practice. And so the CIA movedforward the second question or deliverable, which
is who would be good at thisand how do we know where they are
and find them? And that kindof stuff, which I thought was one

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of the most poignant most powerful thingsthat I heard during my tenure in this
organization was was for them to saysimply this, everybody has this ability.
It is not something unique to anyone. You don't have to get shot in

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the head, you don't have tohave a heart attack, you don't have
to have a near death experience,you don't have to have anything that people
throw out there as the condition ofwho are what they present themselves to be.
Every human being is born with thisability to be omnipotent, omniscient,

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omnipresent, eternal in that aspect ofthings, right, if you understand it
from a quantum mechanical perspective, everyhuman being is born with that ability,
which when I knew that and Iknew it, not believed it, but
learned it and knew it, thatwas transformative for me because now it was

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then why were we given that ability? Why were we given that ability?
And how different might our experience inthis planet, in this collective whole of
humanity be if all of us realizeand recognize that this was our ability,

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God given, Creator given, aliengiven out and give a damn, what
was you know, what bestowed thisupon us? And why? Because if
we have that ability the sense andfeel outside of ourselves to be omnipresent,
you know, omni directional, omniomniscient, right, et cetera. Why

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were we given this? It wasgiven for a reason, not for us
to waste it, or not forus to allow the legions of the status
quo this planet to tell us whatis and what isn't allowed for ourselves.
David, on that point, doyou think that the ability, you know,

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all these extra senses that we have, do you think that they've been
suppressed, that we've been conditioned notto use a lot of those senses.
Yeah, of course, absolutely,absolutely, It's part of everything. It's
part of everything that you face fromfrom kindergarten, you know, K through

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twelve you're told what's real, what'snot real, I mean, what you
can accept, what you can't.I'm almost like when I've heard that,
you know, in K through whatever, they're now starting mindfulness training in response
to all else that's going on inthe world right now, I'm kind of

(35:30):
finding myself going sure you are sure? Yeah, that sounds that's kind of
Marxist lenin is to me, Likeseriously, you know, that's like that's
kind of going back to you know, the original Francis what was her name,

(35:52):
Francis Willard. You know, FrancisWillard, the first the woman who
uh who actually started with reading thirdgraders after she failed in her effort to
bring about prohibition. See all ofus here be like, we can't drink.
I mean, you know, allof us be like, what the
hell. But Francis Willard, whowas a president of Women's College, going

(36:15):
to be married with a guy.And this was back in the eighteen hundreds,
eighteen eighties, and they broke offthe engagement because he just didn't agree.
Francis Willard tried to get the USCongress to pass an amendment that said
that drinking was unconstitutional and therefore,you know, against the law across the

(36:39):
board, and of course all thegood old boys in Congress at that time,
in like eighteen eighty nine were like, get the hell out of here,
you know, pick up your skirtand go we drink it. Francis
Willard, who was was a socialist, also turned around and said, she

(36:59):
goes, okay, I'll figure thisout. So understanding Marxist Leninist theory,
she truly I'm making this up.She is part of the school board on
a state scale, expanding into anational scale, and introduces a school board

(37:21):
initiative to start training from the thirdgrade up. Does that ring a bell
from the third grade up? Aboutthe ills of alcohol and why we shouldn't
be involved this? Now you laughor you might scoff about that, like
how ridiculous. Part of Marxianists Lininustheory is if you want to change the

(37:43):
ideology of a people or a nation, change the ideology up their children.
And so starting in eighteen ninety foursomething like that, I may be up
by a few years. In nineteenfifteen, the ideas is once again introduced

(38:06):
into the Congress, and very shortlythereafter, the men and or women who
were at those days, men whowere decision makers and legislators, were raised
in school with the ills of alcoholand that ideology. And what happened to

(38:27):
us? We end up with anamendment to the Constitution which bans the consumption
of alcohol. And that's what happened. Now, why is that important?
It's just talking about why we gothere, you know, it's like it's
changing that you're asking you ask methe question, is that what we're subjected
to? Yeah, we are subjectedto that if we can take an entire

(38:52):
generation and then get an amendment tothe United States Constitution supported by individuals who
were raised under that kind of anindoctrination that drinking alcohol destroys everything, and
you get that on them, whichthen just exacerbated the problem, right because

(39:12):
of the human condition. More peopledied, more, corruption, more graph
more from every level, from thebottom level to truck drivers and distributors all
the way up to the President ofthe United States. It completely corrupted the
entire system. And then you knowthat it gets repealed. But that's how
it starts. So you asked thequestion, are we indoctrinated in these ways

(39:36):
about what we can think, what'sreal, what it's not real. That's
a single poignant example that I helpyou capture how carefully orchestrated what we believe,
what we're allowed to believe, whatwe are told is normal, what
we're allowed to say is not normal, or what we're told is not normal,

(39:57):
is not only crafted, in strategized, but spoon fed to us.
So and that's a lot of gametoo, isn't it. I mean make
it take like you said, generations, Well, that's the strategy. You
know, one generation is insufficient theoretically, you know, in order to bring
about what's what is called a chainreaction, and you know, in any

(40:24):
kind of organism, in any kindof an environment contained environment, in the
collective global of humanity, you haveto reach ten percent with a singularity of
mission or message. And if you'recapable of doing that, reaching that ten
percent, then you'll start a youwill begin a you'll begin a chain reaction

(40:46):
of ideology that will not stop acrossan entire planetary human organism. We've never
come close to reaching that at thispoint, but trust me Yrons, and
you know, you know in pathology, I mean, you know it's there
are individuals that understand this. Maybethey don't understand the science of it or

(41:10):
the mapp of it, but theyare working diligently to do this, to
stop to stop freethinking, and tointroduce a channelized method of thinking that permeates
through the entire global society to alterthat. And they're not doing it from

(41:30):
some altruistic perspective. They're doing itfrom a perspective of I benefit from this
in some way. You can't figurethat out what the benefit is, then
you're either naive or stupid. You'renot you're not, You're not ignorant.
Ignorant implies that you're actually intelligent,trying, you know, intelligent and various

(41:52):
and various levels of optics and maybenot this particular slice of the ply stupid
implies that you just believe whatever anybody'sfeeding spoon feeding you by whatever means,
whether it's in high school, college, your professors, and you never question
anything because you believe whatever they're feedingyou right now. That's the way it

(42:12):
is. And then you go outinto the world and do it precisely what
it is that their agenda is.Their agenda is not to inform. Their
agenda is to shape, their agendasto shape and to you know, and
to create so that you carry themessage forward, not a message of truth

(42:34):
or you know, reality, butwhat you aren't how failed we are as
a species. You know, howbad we are in this and how bad
we are in that. And lookaround us right now, I mean right,
you know, look around us.What's going on with us right now?
Well, how is remote viewing differentfrom being a psychic medium? That's

(43:00):
a really good question, Katie,because I tell you what, as a
special operations officer, there are plentyof times I just want to leap across
the table, put my two handsaround the throat of something. I'm just
kidding. I'm just kidding. It'slike every time. I mean when I
was doing when I first started comingback on the scene again, after like

(43:22):
eighteen years of just going hell withthis, I'm not doing it anymore because
I was teaching remote viewing and everythingthat defined me was about remote viewing because
of what I chose to do whenI wrote the book Psychic Warrior, which
was I didn't write that book becauseI thought it was going to be some
self aggraddizing moment for me like it, or that it was going to be

(43:44):
some benefit to me. I didnot have any of that in mind.
I wrote that book and made thedecision to stand the consequences of writing that
book because I wanted the world tounderstand that these abilities are not unique to
anybody trying to present them as uniqueto them. These are what every child

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born into this existence has, howeverit manifests or does not. All of
us have this ability to see,to perceive, to understand, which I
believe was a right given to usfor a reason. I mean the words
omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, eternal. Those are words ascribe demand in ancient

(44:36):
Latin, long before that, youknow, before the Old or New Testament,
wherever written. Those were words givento us as human beings, and
our abilities to perceive that were laterstripped from us, stripped from us and
given an assigned to only special people, special special entities, special things,

(45:02):
which if we joined the business ofthat particular religion or belief structure and paid
for it, then we could beenlightened and understand what all that meant.
But the truth of it is,those words were ascribed to us as human
beings. Is this some of thesecrets some of our secret societies hold to

(45:27):
them and they don't want to share, and they're keeping that knowledge secret.
Well, if you're talking about ifyou're talking about Masonry, Freemasons, or
the Illuminati, now, because Icould talk from start to finish about both
of those organizations and they are notwhat everybody wants them to be. They

(45:50):
are not what everybody wants you tothink that they are. They are not,
and I could talk to them inreality and the history of what they're
really about. I mean, Freemasonryis about teaching a man to be a
man, that's that's the bottom linewith that, how to live, how
to live a life reviewed so thatwhen you leave this life you are missed,

(46:16):
respected, revered, loved and remembered. That's what it's about. You
See, women have a very verydefined point in their life where they exit
being a girl and becoming a woman. Right, there's a very defined point

(46:37):
in your life when that happens.Biologically, emotionally, intellectually, all things
come with that change. Men,no, I mean, men stumble through
life as young boys and they arepenises with feet for the most of that
time. Right, And it isno, I mean, truthfully, there

(46:59):
is no there's nothing set aside wherethere's nothing where men say to young men,
let me teach you how to bea man, Let me teach you
how to be a gentleman. Letme teach you how to be a student
of the world of life. Itdoesn't happen. There's nothing. There's nothing

(47:21):
in any church. And I've beenin a height, you know, I
belonged to several churches, even thoughI was not brought up in a church.
My father, in fact, myfather who fought in World War two
and the Korean War, when hepassed his one director. Was no paid
clergy at my funeral, was me? You know, he would no,

(47:47):
no, no, no, Ido not want any paid clergy guy showing
up and uttering nonsense at me,because he had been in war and he
knew what a war was, andhe knew what people were. He grew
up in the depression, you knowwhat horror and sorrow and regret other things
were. And he wanted family,friends and love and reality around him to

(48:09):
recognize him, and he wanted hisnation to recognize him for his sacrifices as
a soldier service as well. Yes, and my grandfather, my grandfather was
a colonel of infantry in World WarOne. And my son is now a
command sergeant major who's probably going tobe the command sergeant major of the Maryland

(48:32):
Army National Guard in about eighteen months. Good for him, Yeah, you
know, I mean the ranking noncommission officer, command sergeant's major. That's
pretty amajor, wonderful. And hergrandson who's in the army, I think
he's a specialist now aviation aircraft framemaintenance or something like that. My sons

(48:58):
that as well, right, cool, Yeah, so I respect all of
that and all those perspectives, andyeah, there we are told what we're
supposed to be and what we're notsupposed to be. And my entire intention

(49:20):
for telling that story was because Iknew that this was something that could ignite
humanity, and as a soldier whohad been involved in the things I was
involved in the idea that you mightignite humanity. Humanity not a particular state

(49:42):
or population of people, or raceor anything else, but humanity to what
is possible for them, what wasbestowed upon them coming into this life.
And it wasn't my perspect I mean, if you want to look it up,
there are Scandinavian you know, pediatricpsychology, psychiatric reports that are available,

(50:04):
published peer reviewed articles that are outthere. If you're so inclined,
go look them up. There areliterally thousands of them that talk about what
children born into this life, remember, about where they came from, and
whatever religious terminology you want to giveit, pre existence, meaning before this

(50:25):
life, whatever you want to assign. I don't care. It doesn't matter
to me. None of that mattersto me. But if you think that
we were not created and placed herefor a purpose, then and you think
that we're just a biological anomaly thatjust happened to rise up out of primordial
slime, and you know, anda mass the capabilities, the intellect,

(50:52):
experience and spirituality for all three ofus to say here tonight and talk.
Then I think that you are youshould drink more wine or do something,
because it's like that doesn't pass thelogic test scientifically, biologically, you know,
there's nothing, nothing in science thatsupports that point of view. It's

(51:16):
just a point of view. David, I have a question for you.
So the with the remote viewing,I guess it's it might be the question.
I'm sorry, Well, with theremote viewing? Is it about energy

(51:36):
and frequency? Is that what we'redoing? Are we sensing energy fields?
Are we what are we doing?Or are we is it like we're going
maybe it's a block universe. I'mjust kind of trying to wrap my head
around all this. Are we goingto a place in time when you remote
view? That is just that wecan visit and we can see all aspects

(51:57):
of it or you know, wherewe and it includes your emotions or is
it images or senses or what isit? Yeah, I'm gonna throw out
a few finish after break, I'mgonna throw a few buzz phrases out,
everything is energy. Everything is energy. Energy is everything. Therefore everything can

(52:19):
be. Everything can be expressed aswaveform on some level. If you're going
to take a break, take itthere. If not, that means that
means as you as individuals, ifyou're trained to listen, to feel,
to sense that waveform, and tointerpret it, which you were given that

(52:45):
ability at birth, it was justtold to you that it means nothing.
The only thing that means anything iswhat you can see. You can feel,
touch, tastes, smell right here, right here. That's anything beyond
that, it's all bs. Anddo not engage with that because that won't

(53:06):
get you into Harvard or Yale orStanford right or Princeton. That will not
get you where you need to be. And you will not be a CEO,
CFO blah blah blah blah blah.You will not be all the things
that humans are supposed to aspire to, right, you will not do that
if you focus on those kinds ofthings. And that's actually the most incorrect

(53:31):
guidance that could be given to somebody. In fact, the vast majority of
the people who have risen to thetop of the innovative fields in our lifetime.
Our lifetime mine now span sixty nineyears. I've been individuals who have
been connected in some way to somethingbeyond the physical. Buck Charleston, you

(53:55):
know Dan Needlman, the guy thatyou uh uh Jetblar Airways, Ille Callaway,
they got to design the Calaway GolfClub. These are guys that have
come into my into my sphere andmy field that I have trained in viewing.
These are guys that have said tome, you know, look everything,

(54:19):
I envision everything, and I seeit comes to me in dreams.
It comes to me in parts,comes to me in pieces. Uh huh.
Yeah, it comes to you,to you when you're in these places
of devoid of judgment, devoid ofinterpretation, devoid of external voices defining for
you. It comes in these placeswhere you are incubating. Right, Yeah,

(54:45):
it's a good place to take ourbreak. Yeah, and that so
we're going to take a break toget back and do Evening on Earth with
the Extraterrestrial and get into the Romanceremote view. So stay with us.
We'll see it on the flip sideof the break. I was like,
really, really, I had acostume. This is my real place,

(55:13):
all right? We are back,Happy Halloween, everybody guide you're here with
us Halloween. So we do afun little game here and evening on Earth
with an extraterrestrial extraterrestrial comes down.Where on Earth would you like to have
dinner with this et? David meyep, you Oh, I got Yeah.

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In the restaurant on the top ofthe Affel Tower Paris. Oh,
nice, beautiful and what would beeating? Pricey? But you know what
would I eat? I have tocheck the menu out now, but I
think never know, you know,it changes. But they had amazing solid

(55:54):
you know, last I checked whenI was there, and then I think
I had some sort of I hada fish which I can't remember what the
fish was, but I did havelike, I did have some more dirvs
that were a little bit questionable.Yeah, you know, they're very French.

(56:19):
We don't want to get the Ithink the ET would actually like like
them. These were things came offthe bottom of you know, the river,
and these were things most human beingswould look at and go like no,
thank you. And I was like, you served them, we monsieur
and I was like okay with crackersand I'm like okay, So yeah,

(56:44):
I was eating Yeah, I was, but I can tell you they tasted.
They tasted like the bottom of thesea. You know. They were
like, yeah, I'm not I'mnot griping. I mean I signed up
for I was like, okay,and what kind of wine this one?

(57:08):
Like? Lots of that wine.I was like that more wine I drank,
the better they tasted. How Iwas traveling to, you know,
the bottom of the sea where thiscreature was scooped up by whatever means and
then sliced up with this guy quiteacutely, and then served on a plate

(57:29):
with whatever. I'm just telling you, folks. It was not normal human
food, but it's normal in Paris, my favorite city in the world,
Paris. So ask me another alienquestion, Katie, and you'll probably be
sorry about the answer. Have yougot spaghetti and meat? Paul's was going

(57:49):
to be it? You're wrong.So what music would you like this eat
here while you're having what music?H gangster rap? I know about what
I mean, what music gangster?I don't know. I could go like
back, let's go back to theeighties, like I don't know. I

(58:15):
don't know. Actually I don't reallylisten to music, which you can tell
by the way I dance. Youknow, I don't really know to the
seventies and the eighties and kind ofI have no idea what music is today.
I don't. I mean, Istop listening. I just stopped listening

(58:38):
a long time ago to it becauseof you know. I mean, I
can tell you this in Paris,you don want to hear a gangster rap,
not in a restaurant anyway where they'recaving up something that came off the
bottom and see that you would normallyscrape off the bottom of your shop.
There will be no gangster wrap.So I have no idea to empower an

(59:00):
alien race with. I'd be like, hey, no juke boxes here?
Do you have a iPod? Oh? Well, then you're screwed, because
are you signing up for Apple Musicor do you have like Amazon Music?
And they'd be like, I'd belike, I don't know what to do
for you, man, you wantme in homotune? I get a homotune

(59:21):
from the eighties. I heard JimmyHendrix and I and Janis Joplin concert.
I did, I actually did.I could do light my fire for you
and and be like that's awesome.He would love some Hendricks. I think
everybody and he was a paratrooper.You know that, right, he was

(59:45):
a paratrooper. Yeah, he wasin the eighty second Airborne Division. Sorry,
I didn't know that. And whatform would you recommend this et?
What film? Oh? What movie? That's that's interesting. That's an interesting

(01:00:07):
Now you got me stumped. Yes, that was the most fascinating one to
me because it was just trying tounderstand that they don't look like us.
Which movie is this, I think, but the one, the one where

(01:00:28):
the the thing shaped like this,the craft comes down and they come in
right and there it's about they throwup their their octopods or something like that,
and they throw up the language iscircular and they sort that out.
That to me was the most intriguingof any of the crap that you see

(01:00:52):
out there, right, because that, to me spoke to how it will
probably be that they don't look like, or speak like, or live in
the environment that we live in,which goes right back to the Drake equation
talking about the potential for habitable planetsin the universe. I mean not in

(01:01:16):
universe, excuse me, in ourgalaxy. I'm like, we're one galaxy
in in billions, one hundred andeighty billions estimated galaxy in the visible universe.
People don't get what the visible universemeans. Visible means just what we
can freaking see, you know,how far alike can actually travel to us?

(01:01:39):
And the truth is their shit beyondthat that we don't even know.
And it's like, we mathematically cancalculate that it began from a point of
singularity and based on how many yearswe estimate, how many billions of years
we estimate, it's you know,the galaxies are separating and spreading, we
can calculate the speed of this andtravel. So back this up. Yeah,

(01:02:00):
this is the whole work of youknow, of Hawkins for the last
decade of his life was like aweek of backwards that all the way back
to the point of singularity. Andhe couldn't, you know, way he
couldn't because he insisted that time hada role in that and his his all
the folks that we're working with himas PhDs or candidates, we're going we

(01:02:24):
cannot put time into this equation.We understand that Einstein did, but if
you're trying to back this up,as soon as we get to a certain
point, time confuses the equation.The equation is unsolvable at this point because
of time, because we don't understandthis point of singularity where the material that

(01:02:49):
began this uniform this universe happened notas a big bang. It was on
a big was not a big explosion. It was like perforating a membrane,
and the material that formed this universespilled into it and expanded outward. And
it is still expanding outward. Soa lot of a lot of people when

(01:03:14):
you say, okay, so nowonce that was determined, we're no longer
infinite, are we And we're not. But people are like, oh,
we're not infinite? What the hell? And it was like, we're not
infinite? But what's that in?Yeah, didn't think about it like that

(01:03:36):
yet, what's it in? Andif it happens to get what's that in?
So what do we in? Whatis where we came from in?
And so now it goes into thiswhole. I'm going to say this is
highly interpreted by me as a physicist, not as not as a physicist by

(01:03:58):
trade, but I took it knowin college. Uh it is. It
is highly speculative and very interpretive,and I want everybody to know that.
But I also want you to knowthat any any physicist worth their weight and
feathers will tell you that everything wedo in physics is interpretive. Everything we

(01:04:20):
do is an interpolation. It's allan interpretation. And you know what the
truth is, next week could allbe bullshit. Everything we're saying right now,
all the you know, all themathematical proofs that we produce and everything
else. It could. It'd bebullshit tomorrow. And here's why, because

(01:04:41):
we only know what we know rightnow. Do you think we're living in
a tricks David aware and like amatrix? Like a game, because oh
god, yeah, yeah yeah,like a game, that's an interpretation,
that's an overlay in the lexicon ofremote viewing, that's an overall, that's
a human right interpretation of game strategy, game construct. To put that down

(01:05:06):
there and go like the whole ideaof multiple worlds, multiple dimensions, multiple
universe, in other words, aneight dimensional hyperspace or construct, that's a
human interpretation that which is expected.It's expected to be there. But that's

(01:05:28):
not what it is, and itis only you know it's But I granted,
since you brought it up, it'sa really good interpretation. I mean
you've got to dig it. Likein the last matrix when they you know,
when they're showing the waveform expression ofeverything, as everything is seen as

(01:05:50):
you know, waves as photons oflight coming out. That's how in a
way that remote yours see. Theyperceive things kind of in that way and
dark, granular perspectives of things,and they are not it's not like looking,

(01:06:14):
you know, like you're standing onthe corner somewhere. It comes in
different ways of perception for every viewer. It's different, but that would be
the closest to it, because howviewers perceive seeing is a misnomer. And
I'm careful about using that because itimplies for everybody listening that they see through

(01:06:36):
physical eyes and they don't. Theyperceive. They are detecting, decoding and
objectifying waveform expressions of data, detectthe code, objectify. Now, the
detective code part is part of ourhuman nature. We're all connected. We
already said that, we know thatwe're omnipotent, omniscient, omnipress and eternal

(01:07:00):
beings bestowed upon us by our creatorfor a reason, not just because they
couldn't figure out what to do withit, right, They gave it to
us for a reason. We're supposedto be evolved using to tell you know,
disability to detect, detect, anddecode. We're supposed to be connected

(01:07:21):
with each other, irregardless, youknow, irregardless. That's about that's not
even a word, regardless of wherewe are, right, it's indifferent to
space or time or anything else.Omnipotence, right, that means omnipresence.
It means everywhere, once somebody andthen they'll call you that happens. Those

(01:07:45):
are examples of yeah, what areconsidered to be you know, micro or
minor protuberances right in that where ina particle wave theory. If you're looking
at that, and I'll explain that, it's like, all of a sudden
you're aware of Oh, you know, I should be calling I'll bet you
Katie's going to call me and saywhere all the stuff you're going to give

(01:08:10):
me for this show? And I'mlike, yeah, I figure she was
going to say that. I wasthinking that I was going to probably anyway,
I know I'm getting crazy on it, but anyway, you're doing these
things and all of a sudden,here's a thing that you looked at down
here's an email or a text fromKatie. I knew it, you know.
Okay, so you have to goback and do it now. Most

(01:08:30):
people just look at that and goshit, you know, it's all a
matter of coincidence and that you know, the convergence of time and space and
that kind of said, no,it's not. It's the fact that we
actually communicate to each other. Wecommunicate to each other, we we talk
to each other, we think abouteach other, we care or we don't

(01:08:54):
care about each other, right inour processes. And if you go in
to particle wave theory and you understandparticle wave there and I'm going to give
you a I'm going to give youthe entire semester of physics in the next
sixty seconds. Oh right, Sohere you are particle wave theory. You're

(01:09:15):
thinking like you hear in physicist scope. Well, when it's observed, it
coalesces into a particle in position one, and then when it's no longer observed,
it decoheres into waveformen right, youknow, and then when it's observed
again, it coalesces into position two. All right, let me explain that

(01:09:39):
it's not about like some guy lookingthrough a microscope or something. I'm looking
at it now. No, itis when they say observed in the physics
community, I mean it's measured soon the celloscope when they're measuring a party,
When they actually measure of the presenceof a particle, a waveform coalesces

(01:10:00):
into a spike on the celloscope.That's position one observed, position one measured.
When it is when they're no longerobserving it, they turn off the
celloscope, no longer. It decoheresback into its waveform. It when they
turn it back on and observe it, measure it again, it coalesces into

(01:10:26):
another particle, and then again andit collesses in another. So position one,
two and three. Now, oldphysics, like you know, Newtonian
physics would say, oh, well, to get from position one to two
to three, the waveform travels bythe most direct path quantum mechanical interpretations of

(01:10:51):
physics, which I ascribed to Iadmit, and did back before it almost
even existed, when I was incollege. It is quantum mechanical physics.
Say no, no, no,no, it's a wave form. And
when it's a waveform and it coalescesand decoheres, how it gets from a

(01:11:12):
position to one to two or tothree. It travels by and listen to
this every possible path, every possiblethat's omnipresent. If the wisdom of the
world can be free will, dowe have free will? All that stuff?

(01:11:35):
Every possible it means is their originalthought? Are you thinking a thought
that is something you're driving from acrossthe universe which is all around you,
or are you there? Because whatmost people don't understand about REMO viewing it

(01:11:59):
is this. It's not about goingfrom here to there, it's you're already
there. It's about just having somebodytell you based on a concept of the
target. I want you to tuneinto this concept, this channel. I
want you to be looking for thesethings at this place. And that's that's

(01:12:23):
a great segue into the radio.Yeah, that's a great segue into what
we did at the ranch. Onefinal question that I have to get to.
What one question would you ask youret over your dinner? What one
question would you have? What onequestion? Can I go for a ride?
Oh? Yeah, it's a goodone. Yeah, I like a

(01:12:45):
good answer. So let's talk.Can I go where? Can I take
me back to where you are?Just so you can check it out.
I don't want to stay. Iwant to sign a document says I don't
want to stay there. I wantto be You've got to bring me back
here, but me a ride.If if you can't take me back there
and bring me back, can youjust take you for a stand around the
planet? Cool with that? Maybemaybe maybe a detour out around the moon

(01:13:10):
a couple of times come back.I'll be cool with that too. That's
awesome. So, David, canyou set up for our viewers and our
listeners what the project was at RockyMountain Ranch for Beyond Skinwalker? And I
wish we had a few more hoursand unfortunate, so I know we're gonna
have to get to and yeah,okay what he did? And okay Tara

(01:13:35):
the zombie Zombie Tara. Yeah,so if you could set up projects and
how many viewers and you know,I've been waiting for Tara this entire time,
and I hear you, Katie,Tara, I wanted you to like
to vomit some like you know,some like green goo black green go on,

(01:14:00):
you know, like then I wouldhave been like, well, this
is Halloween show. I would havebeen like, yes, I'm in the
right place tonight. Okay, Okay, I love it, so go ahead.

(01:14:27):
Sorry, so we get this.The way this whole thing process works
is the first thing somebody comes toyou and goes like, we would like
you to do these things. Now, there was a producer who was part
of that program who came and hadhurt me on on I don't know,

(01:14:48):
clubhouse or some other place, whocame and said, look, hey,
we would really like you to comeand do this with us. And I
was like, I've done that before. I've done like the entire shows that
were just about remote viewers being putto the test. And you know,
with proctors, they're like a likea guy out of a sergeant out of

(01:15:10):
the California Highway Patrol to you nameit. Guys like yeah, like to
make sure we're not passing notes amongsteach other. I mean, it was
just funny, but I get I'mnot concerned by that. It's like because
I know if the viewers are doingit correctly the way they're supposed to be
doing it, what they come upwith is is going to be within this

(01:15:36):
spectrum of usable data. And that'sall I care about usable data, you
know, is that I know thatthey're not going to be one hundred percent
accurate. They never will be.They never were. And I know that.
You know, one viewer operating independentlyof other viewers is not to be
trusted. Why because the rule numberone is not one hundred percent in accurate.

(01:16:00):
So why would you trust one viewergoing, I think it's this.
It's so stupid to do that,right, it's so stupid to do that.
Oh, I think it's this.It's like, you think it's this.
You might as just be like JohnnyCarson, what was the thing?
You know, Cresky crestyet a holdof the thing. I think you know?

(01:16:21):
You know, it's not that,it's not that you know. It's
a it's an intelligence collection methodology harnessinga human ability. But it's not one
hundred percent accurate. It never Whybecause it's human interpretation. You cannot let
go of your humanness to be someartificial intelligence to spew out only what you

(01:16:47):
know based on what you you know, think you know. Actually you're doing
that, but you're doing that froma human interpret interpretation perspective. So it's
a human interpretation at the feat ofhuman thought, which according to target and
put off, not target put off, but darn I forgot her name and

(01:17:10):
I apologize to her. I've alwaysknown her name. Uh there, I
will remember it tonight, like,oh it was that. It's uh look,
there has been there have been publishedstudies by Targ and his colleague female
physicists on the speed of human thoughtbeing faster than this than the speed of

(01:17:34):
light, which was you know,the cosmological standard for speed or measurement of
speed, which actually really has nothingto do with speed. It's really more
a measurement of distance than speed.But anyway, it's it was uh Raucher,

(01:17:55):
Elizabeth Raucher, thank your mind forfinding getting me there. Doc Elizabeth
Rauscher and Targ as a co authoron It's it's a powerful paper that they
wrote, and I wish all ofyou would look at it, but it
just talks about the speed of humancognition, which their calculations are kind of
in sync with actual tests of humancognition. Actually, when you're looking at

(01:18:23):
how humans are able to cognate,when you really look at it, our
ability to store and our speed withwhich we can process. And I know
you're all thinking, like, that'snot me. I can't remember what I
had for breakfast. That's all we'retalking about. We're talking about the potential.
You're born into this life and youhave to recognize this. You're born

(01:18:45):
into this life with the cape ofthe neurological capability to read, speak,
write, understand every language of humancommunication. That's amazing. You learn,
you learn what you learn. Butyou're born. You know, like no

(01:19:06):
baby comes to this life and theyand they try to speak like Chinese and
and they go, well, no, you were supposed to speak English.
Fuck you, You're out of here. It's like, no, it's not
that's not how it works. Right, You're you're born with a neurological capability
understanding any any language, it fromany region, any dialect, anything.

(01:19:28):
So what pairs it down? There'sactually an understanding that you come in with
that capability, and from a psychiatricperspective, if you don't engage and exercise
that capability, there's a thing calledDarwinian pruning. I hate that, but
that term, right, I thinkI've been Darwinian pruned in a lot of

(01:19:50):
areas. But I hate so Isaid, I hate that, but I
love that term. Darwinian pruning.It means like your brain turns around and
goes, well, okay, you'renot gonna use this. You know you're
not gonna use this. It startsthrowing neurons out going. Well, you're
not gonna do it. Okay,fine, I'm not you know, keep

(01:20:10):
feeding these things and keeping them alive, and it starts Darwinian prety. Means
you're whittling down these capabilities. That'snot not that exaggerating. I'm exaggerating,
Okay, it is right. Itis just that that's what happens. Like
Seriously, if you just learn toexist in a trailer park, smoking meth

(01:20:32):
and eating burritos from the local conveniencestore, your brain will Darwinian prune you
from a brain capable of understanding everything, speaking, writing, reading, everything,
anything in this existence down to that. That's a choice that your environment

(01:20:59):
makes. Studying hard. I mean, no, ship right, You're like
which is which is where it alwayswas? It was like if you're not
turning the page, if you're nottrying to find things out, if all
you're doing is existing in right now, like right now, I mean I

(01:21:21):
get it, Okay, eck arttotally. I'm not that the now is
not important. I'm just saying thatyou're in the now. You need to
be focusing on the environment. Everythingaround you and how you're going to react
to that. So we as humanbeings are making a choice more and more

(01:21:43):
and more. I just did apodcast like three nights ago where I might
have got on a limb because Isaid, people are just getting stupider and
stupider and I and I and peopleare like the guy was doing it,
he was like, oh my god, I'm going to get out of YouTube
for this one. I'm like,no, there's been stupider and stupider,
and I go, look, Icould be polite about this and go,
they're getting more naive. How withthat, they're getting stupider and stupider you

(01:22:08):
are naive? Or to say thatsomebody's ignorant of something implies that they that
they're still intelligent enough to know certainthings, but then they just don't know
anything about that particular piece of thepie. But when you have no idea
about that piece of the pie orthe rest of the pie, and you
just accept what everybody's handing you basedon however many pies they throw at you,

(01:22:32):
and you just go, they're allreal, they're all real, they're
all real, they're all real.You're stupid, You're not ignorant. You're
stupid. You're just have completely checkedout of your requirement as a human being
to like be discerning and to liketurn around and go like is that real?
Or is that just stupid? Andsafe? You know, and drive

(01:22:57):
safe safe. There was this Ihave to segue to a new story.
Okay, sorry, Standing there todayat the at at the d MB Department
of Motor Vehicles, which in Floridais called the tax Collector. That there's
just out there the tax collector,big sign on the side of building.

(01:23:18):
Tax collector. You're thinking, okay, so I'm there, you know,
and there's an older gentleman, he'smaybe not that much older than me,
but he's over he's going his numberwas called. I wish my number had
been called. His number was called. And he's over there, and I'm
still sitting there with like, Imean, I'm like, I could be

(01:23:41):
here till I could be here,I could grow a beard sitting the long
number. Seriously, I'm literally I'vebeen going, I'm going to be here
a long time. What's your number? All ahead of me? So anyway,
this guy's over there, and he'slike and he goes through the thing.
You can't hear what they're saying.Right, But in all our wopedness,

(01:24:05):
in all of our projected technological advancement, there's half of this entire place
is talking to a face on acomputer screen. Not this guy, because
he's back for the third time,so he is now being seen by a

(01:24:25):
live person because he's obviously a screwup and can't figure this shit out.
Right, So the guy is andyou would think like he deserves. Now
wait a minute. First of all, why are the numbers? Like why
am I an alpha thirty one?But they're like a Juliet in a you
know something else. It's like thatdoesn't make it. I'm asking around,

(01:24:47):
like what what? And some guysays to me, who's got a Juliet
number? He goes, well,we're all here because see it says like
we're back again. So we're likepasses pass what's that mean? He goes,
well, we screwed up. Wedidn't bring everything we're supposed to bring,
so they gave us a pass.We ran home like dumb shits,

(01:25:08):
packed up all this stuff we're supposedto have came on back and now we're
here, and so I go,okay, I understand now. So this
poor guy I'm watching him because I'msitting there waiting for Alpha thirty one to
be called, And all of asudden, the guy stands up. He
stands away from the girl who's infront of me. He has an actual
life person, and she goes,you're supposed to stand over here, stand

(01:25:31):
over there by the camera. Andthis guy's like he steps back like three
feet. He's like, where's thecamera, where's the camera? And she's
going, no, sir, it'sit's over there. It's it's it's over
there. And he's like what,And he's turning around and turning around,
He's like where, what are youtalking about? It? He's what camera?
And all of us who are liketrying to be helpful citizens at this

(01:25:55):
point, we're standing of her goingit's sir, sir, and we're trying
to get his attention. It's overhere, and he's like, what are
you talking about? He's like heis just spinning literally no exaggeration, not
doing this for comedic fact. He'sspinning in circles. He cannot figure out
where he's supposed to go, andshe's going and she's going, and she's

(01:26:18):
got him the speaker over to thephone where he's supposed to be. She's
talking to him, I'm the speaker, sir, over here, you're supposed
to go over here. He's likefour feet away from her at this point.
She's talking to him from a speakerover by the camera, which is
literally fifteen feet away, and he'slike, what what do you want me

(01:26:39):
to do it? And he's justlike spinning around circles. So, like
a couple of us are like,hey, over here, Oh, you're
supposed to go right over here.He goes oh, he goes oh,
because there's a big sign come overhere to the count. He's like,
so he goes, oh, that'swhat you're saying. So then he goes
over and I'm kidding you not,I kid you not. So they're like,

(01:27:00):
there's a cute there's a mat therethat goes stand here to you over
He stands three feet to the rightof that map. I mean the camera
is nowhere near him because in hismind he doesn't know what the camera looks
like or anything else. No,he's just he's just he's not stupid.

(01:27:28):
This is ignorance. This is ignorance. He doesn't know he's standing there like
this. He's like and he's lookingaround, and he can hear his voice
over to the left going sir,sir, and you can see it going
like this. He's looking over atit and he's standing there staring straight ahead.
There's no camera. He's on thecorner of the wall. The foot
things are over here to the right, three feet she's going. And then

(01:27:50):
I look over at the girl who'stalking on the on the phone, which
is speaking over here, and she'sgoing, uh, can you scooch to
your and she goes like this toyour left? Can you scooch to your
left? And so he's like,scooch, He's like looking around. So

(01:28:15):
there's a guy in front of me. He's like, move over and put
your feet on the yellow prints overthere, us back and all the whole
audience of people. And he goes, he should not have a driver's license.
That's what I'm going to say.And he's like oh, and he
stands there. You know, youknow, it gets a picture taken,
and she goes, you can comeback over now. And I'm just like,

(01:28:40):
oh my god. And this iswhere we are today. This is
life. This is life today,you know. And and and you have
a twelve year old that goes likeyeah, he should have known yellow footprints
were right there. He should haveknown. What's the matter with that guy?
He's screwed up, he's the changedanyway. I don't know what the

(01:29:02):
question was. I have to sharethat experience the ranch remote view. I
think you're gonna have to have youback for this particular show because right now
we're talking about more important things.Poor man. I was like, I

(01:29:30):
need somebody, need to throw thisguy like a life reserver and go.
And then it just happened to getlike there's some like Vietnam veterom and they
go like, I'll go over hereto the you got you gotta you don't
have a you don't have an appointment. You don't have an appointment like you
know, like you mean you're notbaptized. You don't have an appointment.

(01:29:51):
You're not baptized. Like, goover. You gotta go over to the
to these uh you know online youknow, public computers and sign in and
get it appointment. And this guycomes over and I'm over like because I
got a I got a ticket forgoing across a bridge without a sun pass.
So I've got this fine and theywon't register in my car because I

(01:30:12):
don't have this fine paid off.And I'm like trying to go through that
more on menu on my phone,right and this guy comes over and he's
over there and I can see him. He's got all he should on.
He's like Vietnam veteran. He's gotlike purple hearts and all this shit up
you know, on up here.He's an aerosoult guy, me one hundred
and first Airborne Aerosoult Division and allthis stuff. And I'm like, hey

(01:30:34):
there, hey there, brother,you know what do you need? I
show him my tattoos for a rangerregiment and stuff. He's like, oh,
they just put me over here.I don't know what I'm supposed to
do. I absolutely understand, whichis that's how we tread aliens. When

(01:30:54):
they come here. We just likethrow them over here and we go,
you know, sign in at theWhite House. If you don't sign in
the White House, we're going totalk shit about you for the next twenty
years, you little jerks, youknow kind of thing. It was just
hilarious, I mean hilarious, butsad to me. Here's this guy,
Vietnam veteran, purple heart. He'slike, I don't know what to do

(01:31:17):
yeah, I don't know what I'msupposed to do here, you know,
and anyway, so we guided himthrough it all. Finally got his appointment.
He was so happy he got hisappointment. Came back like three hours
later. I had my appointment.I got my appointment, and he finally
gets over there, and then theyprobably turned him Marie away in like five

(01:31:39):
minutes because he didn't have the document. They wanted to get a pass.
But there you go. You geta pass and you can come back if
you can figure out you just goto the gentleman over the receptionist. Now
the receptionist that was that was differentbecause there was one guy who like smiled
and talked to himself and whistled thewhole the entire day. And I kept
saying, the person was with me, that's really freaky, creepy, weird.

(01:32:04):
Yeah, that guy could be aserial killer or something. It's like
talking to himself when nobody's looking.He's like talking and making gestures and and
and the person's like, you shouldn'tbe so judgmental people. I'm like,
I'm not being judgmental. Look overthere, don't don't look where you can
see you you know, over thereyou know, it's like you know on

(01:32:25):
the knicks on the down low waysay you know whatever, like just look
over there and don't be seen.You know, don't look over there because
he he has all my information inthe computer. He knows where I live.
I mean, he could be likesomething, it's like Halloween stuff.
He could be like you don't showup with an ice picker or something straddling.

(01:32:46):
But what are both of us like? You know, so it's like
don't don't don't look over there.Don't let him know that we know that
he's strange. So, but thatguy is like he helps everybody. Then
he would talk to himself and smileand whistle and get up and whistle.
I go, who works at thed MB? Oh sorry, it's Florida
the tax Collector's office, right andwhistles through the day. Who does that?

(01:33:14):
Is the matter of perspective, isn'tit. I mean, of course,
and I knew you were take meat aara perspective, guy, It's
a matter of how you look atit. Are we talking about remote view
of the d MBA Okay, askthe quick question real quick before you get
onto Katie's thing. And I know, but David can you a group of

(01:33:38):
people remote view to the beginning thatsingularity. Uh, you could. But
the problem is this good question,excellent question, the question, the answer
you might not like. Going backto rule number one, it's not one
hundred percent accurate, never has been, never will be. And rule number
two you never trust the results ofa single remote your operating in penenty of

(01:34:00):
other room viewers. And rule numberthree removing is never intended to be a
standalone endeavor, which means it hadto be done in consonants with other methodologies,
research, investigatory, of scientific,et cetera. Methodologies. Those are

(01:34:20):
the criteria for effectiveness in it,which were the criteria not a sign just
to do that, But any intelligencecollection methodology. None of the intelligence collection
methodologies used then or today are onehundred percent accurate. None of them are
one hundred percent accurate. Why becausethey're all interpreted by human beings. If

(01:34:45):
it's photo imagery interprety interpretation, ratherit's interpreted by human being who says this
is what this is, signal interpretation, same thing, this is what they
mean by what they're saying, etcetera. It just continues on that way,
which is why remote viewing held itsown, along with all the intelligence

(01:35:09):
collection methodologies, and why in understandingthose things, even you know, not
knowing what remote viewing is truly capableof the Director of the CIA turned around
and said, I don't care ifit's six percent accurate. If it's six
percent accurate information that I cannot gleanby all these other intelligence collection methodologies,

(01:35:30):
that's six that's intelligence dollars well spent. It's far more than that. And
it the more viewers you have,the higher the accuracy. You know that
the correlation goes, the positive correlationcoefficient rises. And so in Katie's exercise,

(01:35:54):
you had seventy two remote viewers basicallyfrom seven different countries working this project,
three separate targets. And so thecorrelation, the positive correlation coefficient calculated
from the thousands of data points producedby many individuals. And I showed those

(01:36:18):
slides to Travison, and Travis andEric were like, well, I hope
you have you know, AI,because how do you pull all that together?
I went coffee in two coffee intwo weeks of work with four people.
That's what the biggest remote views everdone. It was the It was

(01:36:41):
actually bar none without any exaggeration noother nobody's ever pulled that many remote viewers
together, that many remote viewers trainedunder the same protocols, with the same
exacting expectations and standard of their product. And that's critical because a lot of

(01:37:02):
different people claim to be trained havebeen trained and reviewing who were not.
That was actually the the podcast Idid most recently, which was Fakers and
Liars, which was I love thatone. Actually, it was an interesting
one to do. People that comeup and go, I'm a remote your

(01:37:25):
you're remove your Yeah, I'm ashaman. You're a shaman. Yeah,
I'm a practicing shaman. Did youtake remote viewing training? No, but
I'm a practicing shaman. You know. It's like you didn't take remov viewing
training, so nobody trained you inremote viewing. No, but I'm a

(01:37:47):
practicing shaman. Okay, so you'renot a remote your No I am.
No, you're not You're not aremote shut up, Shut up before I
raise my voice. You're a shaman, you're practicing shaman. I don't even
know what that means, but I'lltell you this. I'm a room of
viewer because I was trained in remoteviewing by the military, by the CIA,

(01:38:08):
D I A. That's how I'ma remote viewer. I don't claim
to be a shaman. How wouldyou feel if I claimed I'm a shaman
because I'm a remote viewer? Wouldyou be okay with that? Now it
goes like, right, it goesalong those lines. It's like, oh,
they shut up and get off thechannel, you know, out of
here jettison. But it happens.I mean, there's a Navy seal out

(01:38:31):
there claiming to be a remote vieweruses that term. And the whole gist
of this was why are people doingthat? Because because now people realize that
it came out of the CIA DI A, that it came from Stanford,
that was born in science, testedin science, validated in science.

(01:38:54):
It has this scientific rigor attached toit. It was used as an intelligence
collect methodology and was viable for thirtyplus years. It's still in effect even
though they claim it isn't. Theywould never have given up that capability just
because somebody wrote a book, right, So people jump on that and start

(01:39:15):
saying I'm a remote viewer. Noyou're not. And you know this particular
guy, a seal turning around goingon remote and he's written like he's he's
written a couple of books. I'veread one and particularly read a review on
one which was, yeah, prettyinteresting. But the point is when you're

(01:39:38):
starting turning around sell books and sellclasses and saying remote viewing and warfare,
remote viewing is a seal, thisremote viewing is that I have to jump
in and go like stop that,stop stop saying that you're not that.
And the bottom line was, youknow, an interviewer, a wise interviewer

(01:39:59):
back this person into a corner,saying like, where'd you learn or did
you learn removiewing? Well, youknow, I just picked it up here
and there. No, I meanseriously, we're learning like who taught you?
Who did it? You know?I think I read a book somewhere,
but I you know, yeah,I just kind of picked it up.
Oh so you're intuiting what other peoplespent months or years learning to be

(01:40:23):
capable of doing it, and we're, you know, doing it in support
of the US government. The guydidn't say that, but this was the
point of this whole of what I'msaying here is that people have just turned
around in this environment of non discernment. Yeah, which is why everything we're

(01:40:43):
doing for move on everything we're doing, for everything in this arena, we
have to discern what is real andwhat is not, and what is possible
and what we think things are.And we have to do that with a
genuineness and our intention in our heartto be capable of saying that's not what

(01:41:10):
it is that I'm looking at.I'm trying to figure this part out and
we have to Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I just wanted to mention
your books and bring those up aswell as your website. No, you
do offer training, and you weretalking about to how to train properly,

(01:41:30):
and you do offer that to people, and you have, for you've trained
thousands of remote viewers on how todo it properly. So his website.
Can we bring up his website andI yeah, that's perfect, have online
remote viewing courses. Yeah. SoI'm just encouraging our listeners out there,

(01:41:53):
if you're listening to this to checkout don't go to remote, don't go
to David moorels dot com though,to go to David there. It is
right there and he does offer courses. And I mean, I have to
say, I don't know about you, but for me, the experience with
Beyond Skinwalker and they were. Imean, even in the hotel there was

(01:42:16):
David moorehouse and I so wanted togo meet you and introduce myself. They
would allow it. They would notallow it until cameras were rolling. He
put together the most incredible PowerPoint presentation, and I have to admit I'm not
admitted. I have not admitted thisonline. When I was done, and

(01:42:39):
I'm driving home in my jeep onthe way back to the hotel after that
mind blowing presentation that leads to thecrew, the camera crew, and to
myself and and it is legit,like when they have that's I'm meeting him
for the first time, I'm hearingwhat he had to say for the first
time, cameras rolling, and mymind was so blown. I was thinking

(01:42:59):
to myself my drive back, likeis this faked? Are they faking this
stuff? Because our viewers hit onon that ranch was mind blowing, from
the people involved, to the blackout, helicopters, to boxes, to noises,
to creatures, to UFOs, tothe locations that they targeted. It

(01:43:19):
blew my mind, Terra, andthen to ultimately see that that whole thing
didn't even make the episode. Youknow what's going on? I was not
surprise. Was there is a thing. You can go to History dot com
and they have a little clip thatthey included, but it nowhere encapilates,

(01:43:43):
encompasses. I guess I should saythe amount of data and we don't have
time unfortunately on the show, fromcraft to boxes, to sounds, to
everything that we experienced there in theColorado ranch in the mid to late seventies.
And these remote viewers, these seventyseventy two remote viewers from around the
world, some of whom have reachedout to me and shared their findings and

(01:44:04):
their sketches, which has been incrediblefor me to see. It was so
did that that's funny. Don't tellme who did it. There's a couple
of them. They're not supposed toare they not supposed to do They're not
supposed to do that because that's marketing. In my opinion, that's marketing what

(01:44:26):
they're doing. But that's okay.Look, I think and in their defense,
I think they were just kind ofsharing their experiences. I know there
they were trying look here, yougot to know and this was what was
funny, is like, as we'representing all this, so I don't know
this but my business managers over theregoing there, and they're the producers like,
we got to get her to cry. She needs to cry. They're

(01:44:48):
they're like, this is you gotto get Katie to cry. Jess,
Like when he shows her these things, she's supposed to cry. It's like
they're like, you didn't even know, but you're over there being on camera
with these two other talking heads thatare over there, right, Bosta Monte
and the other guy and and uh, and they're like, cameras are on

(01:45:10):
you. They're like when he throwsthese sketches up, she's kind of you
know, I know you didn't.You're like, well, you know,
you were just going through the thing. But they were like, she's got
damn it, you know, youknow, damn it. You know she
cried. You're like all else tobe. I was like, well,

(01:45:32):
there we go that show biz folks. You know, I did my best.
I did my part. I showedher to the ugly alien photos and
talked about him, and she didn'trespond. So maybe next time I was
alcohol. That's all I'm gonna say. Producers, alcohol, get her,
get her drunk, maybe she'll respond. Give me. She cry. I'm

(01:45:54):
crying now because I know, it'slike freaky, right. You were like,
you're like, she's like looking overat boost of money and the other
guys getting that's very much what weThat's I was mind blown. I think
that was I was. They're alllike focus focus, like at your cast

(01:46:20):
some light over. They're like,can we get a tear running down the
cheek or something? Because that's thisis where television has come to, Right,
You're like, O, can weget her to like like a gasp
like from Katie, you know,like that kind of thing like I throw
up the dark alien picture. Youknow, that's what they're looking for.

(01:46:41):
And they're like, damn it,you know, damn it, she would
do it over noodles, which theyright, the whole big thing, right,
the whole noodle thing, Like we'regonna go get food from this Hi
restaurant, okay exactly, and they'relike, no, we're bringing it in
special okay. You know, yeah, tastes like ty food that I've had

(01:47:08):
everywhere else I've ever had Thai foodin the United States, And why would
I think it'd be different in wherethe hell are we are? We south
of Denver? Where are we exactly? You know? And they're like Oh,
it's special typhood. Actually it's not. But hey, it's in plastic

(01:47:30):
and it's plastic chopsticks. It's good. It was funny. I just had
to look at the whole thing.And I didn't get a chance to talk
to you like as I normally am, which is like this. I was
trying to be like, I mean, shit, I didn't know what I
was supposed to be with these guys. It had been a long time since
I had, you know, beenon camera doing something like that. I'm

(01:47:53):
not shy being on camera, obviously. I'm not shy about any of that.
I don't care. I really don'tcare. None of that phases me.
Yeah, it's been forever since Iwas doing that stuff. Until then,
I was doing it with you,and I really just wanted to be

(01:48:15):
presenting what seventy two people saw itwas mind truthful, truthful, yeah,
and powerfully as they saw it,because I thought it made a big difference
for them. It was huge.It was Haavy back on. Yeah,
because we've got to get into this. That's just a teaser, everybody.

(01:48:35):
We're having David back on the showso we can get into some of that
stuff in a future episode. Solook, for that, we'll get it
scheduled. I want to thank youso much for spending your Halloween night with
all of us. David Morus couldn'tbe more thrilled to have you here.
Thank you, Tara, Thank youto all our listeners. Thank you Chanelle
for running the back end. Weappreciate all of you. Have a safe
and happy Halloween. Go watch thosescary movies and we'll see you next Tuesday

(01:48:58):
night. Take care, everybody.Thanks everyone, Thanks David, Thanks for having
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