Derrel Sims

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Governments deny, militaries, deny,even the mainstream media denis. But they
are here, and they've been herefor a very long time. The Mutual
UFO Network has been on the frontlines uncovering the truth since nineteen sixty nine,
and now we're sharing that truth withyou. Welcome moufan. What's Up

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is Tuesday night and you are listeningto moof on What's Up Radio? The
show that says Discovery starts with curiosity, and Curiosity starts with moufon brought to
you by kg R a dB dotCom. I am so excited for tonight's
show. We have the Alien Hunterhere, the one and only Darryl Simms.
I can't wait to get out.There's Darryl and I and Roswell.

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I got to meet him there finallyfor the first time. I've been an
admirer of his work for a verylong time, and I'm so excited to
get him on the show tonight.So I'm really excited that he's here with
us. As always, we areendorsed by moufon the Mutual UFO Network,
always asking that all important question,are we alone in the universe? I
am your host, Katie Page fromColorado moof on and let's bring on in

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my co host, my awesome cohost. First, we have Tara Diulis.
You can see Tara right here onsky Tour livestream with Mark D'Antonio.
How you doing, Tara, Hiknow a lot more about astrology than our
astronomy than I do. See Idon't even say the word right. That's
all right. It's a learning processfor all of us. So it's good

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to see you. It's good tobe back and glad to be here.
And we have such an excellent guesttonight. I just can't wait for it.
We sure do. Let's bring onin Shane Hurt. Shane Hurd is
the assistant state director for move Onin Arizona. How you doing, Shane?
Look at that fire? Shane's onfire tonight, Shane. I know,
yeah, it's kind of silly.It's like eighty here today. I'm

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just getting in the mood. Butanyways, what's up. Glad to be
here. I've been getting in themood today a little bit too. And
it's again I broke my own rules. I'm one of those people that like,
let's get through Thanksgiving, then youcould go to Christmas. But I
started pre decorating a little bit,so I'm kind of in that Christmas e
spirit myself. So I'll get it. Where do you have to kick us

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off tonight? Well, it's it'sall about joy, remember that. So
it's okay when you start Christmas aslong as you're happy. Well, today's
meme is inspired by our guest wellspecifically the similarities between the aliens and intelligence
agency. But it shows a manin a gown sitting on a table speaking
to the doctor who is rolling hiseyes to the side, and the man

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states, Doc, you gotta helpme. I was abducted by aliens and
they planted a micro chip in myhead and now they're monitor monitoring everything I
do. And then a tail fromhis head says, actually, we're from
the CIA and another anyway, justkind of just kind of when we we're

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just getting monitored by them and bythem and by everybody, and it freaks
me out sometimes the things that showup on our phones. I'm like,
yes, are your Google searches anything. It's pretty crazy, but it's true.
So well found on Etsy is whatI call would call an orb of
Aliens. Yes, it's an orbfilled with aliens. And this orb of

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Aliens is a linking game where youpick up one alien by the arm and
hook the other arm through a secondalien's arm, like monkeys, like what
was like the old barrel of monkeys, Yeah, barrel of monkeys. And
so you can continue to make yourchain, or you can line them up
and have a domino effect, orjust use your imagination and have fun.

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They're they're kind of fun. Sothe orb of Aliens come in different colors
and can be found where else buton Etsy, along with everything else you
could possibly want or imagine. Therethey look like a barrel of monkeys.
They're kind of fun, just kindof fun games for kids for this Christmas,
just little fun gifts. So therethey are in all different colors.

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Oh that's so cool. It wouldbe a good white elephant gift too.
Oh yeah, I actually ordered onEtsy today. I got a couple of
Christmas stockings, a little alien aUFO. Hey, Kathleen, Kathleen in
here ye, So Shane, what'sup with you. What have you heard?

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There is, Kathleen. I noticedit's for three years and older,
so i'd be able to play itall. Have you guys heard? We're
ready already, We're ready, You'realready? Are you ready? Well?
Listen? Have you guys heard thatSean Kirkpatrick, the head of Arrow,

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is retiring and they're going to havea temporary fill in his uh, one
of his deputies. And so we'vegot a video that kind of explains what
what's going on? Can we rollit? Oh my god. For decades,

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mysterious sightings like these have captured ourcollective imagination. Oh my god,
unidentified aerial phenomena like this object capturedon video by US Navy pilots flying through
restricted airspace in twenty fifteen. Theseare retrieving non human origin technical vehicles.

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So do aliens exist? And arethose close encounters evidence they visited Earth?
To separate fact from fiction, wewent, oh, oh, what happened?
That's halfway through? Did it notwork? I'm not sure what's going

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on? Oh my god? Fordecades mysterious. Oh my god, man,
I'm not in there, so I'mnot touching anything. We have to
go to the machine. Oh,darn it. Oh my god. For

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decades, mysterious sightings like these havecaptured our collective imagination. Oh, let's
see. Let me try and clickit. Yeah, Shane, lets Chanelle
do it. Just get on,Yeah, We'll let Chanelle run it.
Oh my god. Oh, fordecades, mysterious sightings like these have captured

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our collective imagination. Oh my god. Unidentified aerial phenomena like this object captured
on video by US Navy pilots flyingthrough restricted airspace in twenty fie. Oh
my god. For decades, mysterioussightings like these have captured our collective imagination.

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Oh my god. Identified aerial phenomenalike this object captured on video by
US Navy pilots flying through restricted airspacein twenty fifteen. These are retrieving non
human origin technical vehicles. So doaliens exist? And are those close encounters
evidence they visited Earth? To separatefact from fiction, we went to the

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man leading a search for answers frominside the Pentagon. I'm a long term
intelligence officer scientists and military officer.Doctor Sean Kirkpatrick, in his first television
interview after a year on the job, told us everything is on the table.
What keeps you up at night technicalsurprise, and that could be adversary

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technical surprise or extraterrestrial technical surprise.Kirkpatrick leads the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office
or ERRO, created by Congress lastyear to detect, identify, and attribute
mysterious objects of interest in the air, in outer space, and even underwater.
What's the most common misconception people havea UAPs or of the work you're

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doing, that they're all the samething, and they're all extraterrestrial, and
neither of those are true. Hisoffice is investigating more than eight hundred cases
potential UAPs reported by military pilots andservice members. The Factors video twenty nineteen
a stealers reporting glowing triangles above them, now believed to be ordinary drones distorted

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by night vision goggles. Many reportsinvolve unusual materials, most have been later
identified as weather or spy balloons.We have to go through the rigor of
taking each one, matching in againstour known objects and known catalogs, and
then reviewing that peer reviewing that,making sure that everybody's an agreement. But

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there's not an explanation for everything.Most notably the so called tic TAC incident,
off the California coast in two thousandand four. At a hearing in
July, David Fraver repeated the storyhe told ABC News five years ago.
I'm not like a UFO fanatic,It's not me, but i will tell
you that what we saw with foursets of eyes over a five minute period,

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still there's nothing. We have nothingclose to it. Fraverr appeared alongside
Lieutenant Ryan Graves, another former Navypilot. These sightings are not rare or
isolated their routine and David Grush,a former military intelligence officer turned whistleblower.
Grush repeated explosive and unverified claims he'smade in the past that the US government
has recovered evidence of extraterrestrials. AsI've stated publicly already in my News Nation

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interview, biologics came with some ofthese recoveries. Were they, I guess
human or non human? Biologics nonhuman? And that was the assessment of
people wh's recknowledge on the program andthat he was retaliated against after learning of
a supposed secret Pentagon program that aimedto select and reverse engineer UAPs. In
the last couple of years, haveyou had incidences that have caused you to

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be in fear for your life foraddressing these issues. Yes, personally.
After the hearing, doctor Sean Kirkpatrickrefuted Russia's claims in a letter published on
his personal LinkedIn page. He wrote, ARROW has yet to find any credible
evidence to support the allegations of areverse engineering program for non human technology the

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Pentagon, adding it has no informationthat any individual has been harmed or killed
as a result of providing information aboutUAPs. You can say categorically, you've
seen no convincing of confirmable evidence andintact spacecraft kept by the US government.
Now, I have seen nothing thatleads me to that conclusion. Is it
possible there is some secret program thatyou're just not aware of. I don't

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think so. I have access toanything and everything I need. Why do
you think these whistleblowers are coming forward? Well, one, I think the
recent law which extended whistle blower protectionsto them and named ARROW as the authorized
disclosure authority, opens the door forthem to come and tell us exactly what
they think they saw or know about. You believe them. I believe that

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they believe what they're telling me,and I my job is not to It's
not a question of belief, right, It's a question of what can I
go research. Kirkpatrick says between ninetyfive and ninety eight percent of cases reviewed
by his office are readily explainable largebirds, balloons, debris, or drones,
but a small number remain a mystery. So we are going to follow

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our data and our investigations wherever itgoes. So I have a full range
of hypotheses, so you can't ruleit out. I can't rule it out,
but I don't have any evidence thatsays that. Yet. Most Americans
believe intelligent life exists beyond Earth,and a majority say UAPs under investigation are
likely proof of contact. Do youthink extraterrestrial life is out there? I

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think it's statistically unrealistic to think itisn't I mean, given given the vastness
of the universe, we're going tofind it on your watch. Oh wouldn't
that be fun? I mean thatwould be probably the best outcome of this
job. Hm M, let's getShane and muted. There there we go,

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man, oh man? That Imean, Kirkpatrick, I think we're
first of all, I think we'rebeing watched by erow right, now because
we're having like some ghosts and machineso Arrow is onto us. Yeah,
it's it's interesting too. You know, well it's kind of interesting. You
know, the go ahead, Shane. I was just gonna say, you

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know, he's retiring, probably unrelatedto Arrow. You know, he's a
scientist, he's an intelligence officer,he's a military officer. I'm sure he's
a you know, qualified and youknow, the man deserves, you know,
respect for that and everything. Buton the other hand, you know,

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he was really upset about this whistleblowertestimony and was insulted by that.
And I just asked myself, whywould you be insulted? I mean,
if if you're the person maybe prodisclosure, why would you be insulted if
you were con disclosure, I couldsee why you might be insulted. Right,

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So you know, he's gonna moveon that. That's probably good for
him, good for Arrow, goodfor us, and hopefully we'll get somebody
in there that you know, issupportive of this effort and of course takes
it seriously from a scientific perspective,and it's the thing that we all want.

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But you know, things change,and they change fast, and and
with with the government and this kindof program. Uh you know, we
we well, let's just say theyhad eighty years of playing around with this
topic and and you know, keepingit from the public, and it feels

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like the old shell game. Ohyeah, there has to be life in
the universe, but it's not here. We don't have any evidence of it
and that kind of stuff. Soit's a little frustrating. But I get
white white those leaders in that organization, they have to go super careful,
and you know that's we're just seeingmore of that. I'm just hoping that,

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you know, we really get thereal information when the time comes.
What do you guys think I thinkwe're going to see some real evidence tonight
from Darryl. Yeah, I agree, And again it may not be science
that solves this issue, right,so we'll have to ask him. And
I wonder what Kirkpatrick really knows,Like, I mean, you got to

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know he had to stumble across something. So it makes me curious as to
why he got out so quickly.But Chris for we miss you, like
Chris, we do miss you.On a show last night. You were
awesome. Chris. All right,So Tara, that was a good clip
and it's a really fascinating just tosee you. That's it, just observation.

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Yeah, that looks like the showGames. Yeah, that has to
be a stressful job, filled withanxiety, I would think. So it's
probably a good thing for him thathe's moving on. So just for that,
Oh my gosh. Well, welltoday's Mars case. Let me just
I have a briefcase here for you. It's from May twenty third, nineteen

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seventy four, in Los Angeles,and it was it was about one am
when a sixty four year old womanwent into her back balcony and she noticed
in the sky the clouds and describedthem being very high and thick and torn
and ripped, with a lot ofdark sky showing between them. And then

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as she stood there noticing the clouds, she's a sudden bright flash of light
was in her eyes from a roofon the block next to her. So
the light mesmerized her, and asit came closer, she got a She
said she didn't remember it growing insize, so as it came near and
near it was the same, whichmight mean that it was much closer to

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begin with than she thought. Shegot a good look at it for about
twenty five seconds, and she saidit was a perfect circle. Here's her
drawing. She initially thought it wasabout six to eight feet in diameter and
described it as having two different typesof lighting on it. On the top
half of the sphere, the insidehad a glow like a frosted incandescent light

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bulb, so it glowed from withinand then right in the center of the
globe like a dividing line, wheregleaming diamond like points of light and sharply
contrasting with the solid lighted portion above. And these points seemed to be extra
lights coming from outside of the object, and they were reflecting on the bottom,

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so the lights were not blinking,but were described as a constant in
a constant state of scintillation, soit cast no light beams or shadows on
the ground. And as she watchedit, the sphere was really closer.
It moved from east to the westso to her right, and as it
passed she noticed there was a finor a fish tailed thing sticking out from
the bottom of it, and thefin was darker than the background of the

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sky. So after about a fivesecond view of the trailing edge and the
fin, the object blinked out anddisappeared. So the woman stated that it
was her impression that the object wentinto another dimension and became invisible. So
there's a picture of the fin,and so I thought it was interesting about
the fin. As we can see, there are fins on those tic tacks,

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and I think we have a pictureof one of those, and you
can see in the bottom there there'ssimilar fins like she was talking about,
and interesting, Yeah, kind ofinteresting. But it's just kind of another
cool sighting for further investigation in theMars archives. And I highly recommend when
those get opened up that everybody divein and investigate all these cool, cool

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cases. So that's what we have. Thank you, Tara. That's a
fascinating case and always my favorite decade, those seventies. Yeah. So yeah,
the fins are interesting. Yeah,I know that maybe they that might
be our own technology since it hasthose kind of apparatuses off the but I

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don't know for certain, you knowwho knows, But yeah, really cool
good case. Hey, would youhave any comment? Shane you're on mute.
I know he has a bit ofa lad so we're be patient with
Shane. Yeah, I have heardthat. Yeah, this late and he's

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killing us yeah, I think thatthe protrusions anten or whatever they are interesting.
I don't know that we can derivemuch from that at this point,
you know, because that object alsohad went you know, like four hundred
g's went from eighty thousand feet tofifty feet and in uh, you know,

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zero point seven to six seconds.So I don't even know how those
things would stay on there at thatkind of G force, you know what
I mean. So I think there'smore to it than meets the eye.
Maybe there's a field around it,you know, they're not experiencing G forces
whatever it is. If we havethat technology. Wow, but I have

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my doubt. Yeah right, goodcase, good case. Well you guys,
I think we should go ahead andbring our guests in. What do
you say? Yes? Absolutely?Yeah, yeah. So Daryl discovered the
alien implant phenomenon in nineteen sixty.He later pioneered research protocols such as alien

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fluorescence switched. By the way,he gave me a cool when we were
in Roswell this cool little black lidI put on my keychain and it's a
good idea and we could talk toDaryl about it. To have a black
light around you. So if youever suspect any contact. You can look
at your skin right away and we'lltalk about what that is. And he
orchestrated the first public surgeries and testingof alleged implants from the human body.

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Daryl has in his possession the largestcollection of physical evidence of alien human contact,
including skin samples, DNA samples,X rays, MRIs SNAs, objects
with possible forensic traces, and anomalousimplants and artifacts. He was the first
abduction researcher to initiate reaction from alienvia post hypnotic suggestions installed behind the abductee

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subconscious. He developed an extensive questionnairefor alleged alien experiences, employing a variety
of analytical techniques including symbolic profil symbolicprofiling drawings, handwriting analysis, neuro linguistic
programming which is known as NLP,and hypnotherapy. So please welcome to the

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show, Darryl Simms. Well,how are you everybody? Hi, Thanks,
it's good to see you, andthank you so much for being here
tonight. You're looking and I likethe black and red looking good. It
getting ready for Christmas? Oh yeah, we are all on the spirit of

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all of spring. It on early. Hey, Daryl, I really would
like to get started with your firstexperience within plants, which happens to be
yourself when you were just a littleguy. So can you kind of take
us back to what that experience wasfor you and how all that transpired.

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Sure, the basic story is thatI've been abductee since age four, and
my events took a dramatic change innineteen sixty when I was twelve years old
and I heard I heard my mother'svoice saying to go outside and look at

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the star system. And now theproblem with that is my mother and dad
are in the other end of thehouse, the door shut and the other
door I'm in the back of thehouse. There's no way you can There's
just that could have never happened.But it was distinctly a fake image,

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fake hearing of my mother's voice.Somebody programmed that so that I would go
outside. And I got up immediatelyand I walked outside. I just looked
out the back off the porch.It was quite cold. I'm gonna go
to New Mexico. In the desertnear Hallman Air Force Base and White Sands
Missile Range. I saw a verybright light, kind of like in the

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movie phenomenon how he looked up,saw a bright light, and he kept
getting bigger. All the problem was, I wondered why it was getting bigger.
It never occurred to me at agetwelve, it's coming toward you,
That's the reason it's getting bigger.And to my shock and amazement, the
next thing I know, I'm lyingon a table with my feet elevated about
eleven degrees, and I'm on thistable in the circular room, and there

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are these what I call the cosmicskinheads around me, like they have been
in other events. I consider usthe pizza and they're basically the pizza delivery
guys. And I got delivered thatnight, oh man. So I was
basically laying on the table. Andfor your audience viewpoint, because you're probably

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not going to hear this again,I developed a technique accidentally, not because
of any brilliance or anything like that, just accidentally. At age four,
I learned how to keep myself inthe altered state they put you in whenever
you're abducted, and also to beconscious at the same time. So I

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had full conscious control of myself,but I also could allow them to keep
abducting me. So to keep mein that abduction state. The reason that's
important is because if you they're saying, you can hear them talk between themselves.

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Normally they keep they give you asuggestion you can't hear anything. You
won't know anything, and so youlay there either in shock, in fear,
or in awe or amazement or whatever. But those are just programs to
keep you occupied so that you won'tknow. And I started crying at that
point, at age twelve, layingon a table because I overheard what they

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were going to do to me,and in detail. That one of the
things about when they when they describethings to you, they speak in it.
It's like an audio visual picture,and you get the information totally whenever
it happens. And I knew medicallywhat was going to happen, and I

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was horrified, and I said tomyself, you know, whind the world
did want to hurt somebody like me. You know, I'm just a little
guy. I've never harmed anybody inmy life. And anyway, the next
thing I know, the doctor typeGray, the bigger gray. He comes
walking toward me with the needle likedevice approximately eight inches long, with a

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little silver sphere on the end.Of it, he inserts it in my
nasal passage, jams it up there, breaks the nose, the bones in
my nose, and I screamed.And anyway, when he pulled it out
there, of course the needle hasgot blood all over it, and the
the little silver sphere is missing,so obviously it's went up behind my literally

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behind uh, I mean this waybehind the naval patches and behind the eye.
Now, the reason I didn't sinceI never found any evidence of that
other than my experience and I wasthere. A man contacted me years ago
and he said I had the sameevent happened to me. Of course,
I thought he's one of these wannabesmaking the story up in all that.

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But he sent me his X rayof a silver sphere behind his eye,
located in the brain, and theexact time was nineteen sixty, the same
time I had mine done. Ihave the x ray to this day,
so I know he's telling the truth, absolutely telling the truth. And I
know we have an image, Daryl, that you sent of some well,

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I don't know if that is thata different image there, it's a different
one. That's an ocular implant.We found that that fell out of the
lady's eye at her work in frontof her boss after a double mass subduction
of December eighth, nineteen ninety two, December eighth and December eleventh, nineteen
ninety two. It was, inmy opinion, the one of the most

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important cases in UFO files because weactually got the alien to respond to us
instead of them abducting us or whatever. We set them up and they responded,
and it was there was more physicalevidence in that case than we had
in all our cases at the time. How did they respond. They abducted

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eight of our people in two states, in several cities and took them from
small craft to a large craft.It was a probably rich you're kind of
a problem with this one. Thecraft fifty miles stick six hundred miles across.
It was located near the Moon.And when my senior investigator is an
engineer, told me about this,I said that kind of a hard pill

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to swallow. He said, Ithought you to say that, So I
brought the video. Someone had filmedthe moon during the time of the December
eighth December eleventh mass abduction, andthey have filmed a massive craft near the
Moon, and we think that wasthe one because during the same time that
was where they were all taken tothe craft was and people said, well,

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why would they need a craft thatbig? I said, well,
I said, I'm going to saysomething. I said, I'm not a
parrot. I'm not going to sayhere and tell you things over and over
and over and over and over thatyou've heard a million times. I'm not
a parent. I'm a researcher.I find new evidence. This is what
I do. I said. Mypoint is that when you see something that
doesn't make sense, and you knowit's true, you have to ask questions.

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If they've got a craft that big, why would I believe they're from
Zeta Reticula or wherever they claim tobe from. Why would I believe that?
Because you're not going to get thereand you're not going to prove it
anyway. However, whenever I've gotvideo tape of a craft six hundred miles
across fifty miles stick, I cananswer your question a little better. If

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you have a craft that size,you don't need a planet. You can
move that thing anywhere you want,and especially if you're non terrestrial, like
we're biological people here from the planet. These entities are not and they don't
need a planet. Literally, there'sno point to it. I mean you
have to think about that, lookat her biology for that to make sense.

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Otherwise it just sounds like a whopperup story. Yeah. Wow,
that is fascinating. I have notheard that before, Darryl. But you
go, let's go back to thelet's go back real quick. Shame,
but let's go back to the bbyup in your nostril. I think there
was another woman. I think youhave a photo of three little BB type
implants that you got out or twothere we go. Is that something similar

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to perhaps maybe what wasn't implanted inyou, the implanted objects in the uh
in the that you're looking at there, the little ghost fears. There were
four of them. They the mothercalled me and uh, she said,
uh, we've got these little spears. And she said, I've got she

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said, my little girl, thesix year old daughters. She said,
she told me a strange little manwith big black eyes came into her room
and did something into her nose,and I need you to tell me what's
going on here? Not so Isaid, Well, I said, she's
a my bob. We've got alot of different types of hands of course

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we could construe that some of themcould have been web like. But most
of the time, the webbing thatyou see on the alien, if you
see and almost no abductees ever seethe alien's feet. Almost no abductee will
describe an alien's foot because most ofthe time you're laying on a bed or
whatever are you're looking up at them, you're not looking at their feet.

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If you look at their feet,in some cases you'll see the feet will
be webbed between the dose. Ohinteresting, Daryl. I'm looking at those
hands behind you and they're all differentcolors, so you know, and I
know that I've read that. Butthe fluorescence can be different colors, and
is there special meanings behind those colors? Oh, you are so smart.

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Look out for numbers too. Yougot to have a little fun, a
little levity, Yes, a lotof fun, a lot of fun.
So yes, brilliant question. Oneof the questions Ted Oliphant asked me when
I was talking about cattle emulations,I said, He said, well,
what else you know about cattle emulations? I said, your cattle blow in

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the dark like my cattle. Helooked at me and lean forward, sun,
Are you telling me abductees. We'vegot four USNS on them. I
said, yeah, like some ofyour cattle. Who told you that?
What do you do here? Whodo you hear about that? We haven't
told anybody that. I said.Look, I'm an extra cop X.
See you think I've got a brain. I can figure a couple of things

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out. He said, what color? So I told him? He said,
oh my god, we didn't tellanybody that. I said, It
doesn't make any difference. I said, we have the same we have if
we found four USS on our cattle, which I call my abductees. And
he says, I call myself KOWtwo thirteen. By the way, so
I don't differentiate from anyone else.No, there's a whole story behind that.

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But anyway, he said, isthere are Is there a pattern of
these floress? Says yes. Isaid, there's procedural themes. There are
casual contacts like if they touch youwith their fingers, that'll show up,
and there's there's a procedural techniques theyuse on you. I said, I've

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got a police officer out of yourstate, believer or not. One of
my abductees that got abducted three differenttimes within a week, now that is
almost impossible. That almost never happens. People tell me that I think they're
really making it up. She actuallydid, and there were three different levels
of fluorescence on her and I madea power point out of the whole thing.

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Unbelievable. It's you can even seethe equipment where they picked it up
and touched it like the little scissorlike forceips. They laid them on her
arm and then you can see theimprint of them in Florence's laying on her
arm. Absolutely amazing stuff. That'sprocedural stuff, so she has casual contact
and procedural at the same time.There's another level of floris since I never

(35:15):
tell anybody about because if I do, then people will start saying, yeah,
me too. I know I've gota better idea. You show me
the florist's and I'll tell you whatit is. Cool, but a case
of the point which you brought upbrilliantly. I think a lady came to
my house one day, one ofmy abductees, and she says, she

(35:35):
said, Darrel La, I thinkI think I got abductive, but I'm
not sure, and I'm probably makingit up. A typical good good abductee.
She's always questioning her experiences. Icould be making up. It could
have been a bad dream. Itcould be I said, he could be
anything. It could be moon burn. I said, give me a break,
just tell me what happened. Soshe told me, shit, they

(35:55):
may be. They may be holdone of these little, horrible little baby
things with big bug eye black eyes. And I said, and then what
they made they wanted me to Ididn't want to hold it, and they
said it's going to die if youdon't take care of it. So they're
trying to use the moral thing onyou. Wow, I said, like
they care anyway, whether it doesor not. I said, the mortality

(36:17):
right among the little alien guys ishorrific. It's so huge. Wow.
I said, why do you thinkthey have collect tons of sperm from you
and eggs and from you and addsperm from men. I said, this
stuff is much bigger than you imagine. Anyway, She said, well,
so I held it and I didn'twant to and it was awful. And

(36:38):
I said, then what happened?She said, and then they made me
suckle it, and I said,ah, I said, okay, So
she tells the whole story, andI said, well, I'm probably I
probably just had a dream, butI probably dreamed the whole thing. I
told my wife over, I said, you take her to the bathroom.
Take this special black life that Ihave right here, about a four hundred

(36:58):
dollars life, about five hundred action. It's a special light will detect fluorescence
on the shroud of turin cool twothousand years ago. Give you an idea.
Well, anyway, you don't needthat. You can get a little
tiny black light on her website forfive bucks. That's all you need.
That little tiny thing will do ninetypercent of what the other one will do.

(37:22):
Anyway, So I said, youtake her in the bathroom and you
take this black light. Hit iton every level of florestance that we have.
I mean, we've got every levelof Florestan's on the thing. You
can imagine from the soret which isthe level that we find blood on the
shroud of for in. Anyway,she came back out and said, I

(37:47):
found florestan saw on her and onher breast. I found it on her
neck and on her hand where sheheld the baby. Oh wow, I
said, on every orifice. Shesaid, that's correct. And of course
when the lady saw the floor saysshe freaked completely up because like every abductee,

(38:07):
they act like they act like grapevictims the Rundle bathroom, wash themselves
and try to clean everything off.You don't get it just makes it,
It makes it brighter. Wow,Daryl, I know you mentioned earlier some
of the type of markings that peoplewill get. Have you cataloged those markings?

(38:30):
I know, I'm a member ofthe e r T and we've cataloged
certain markings that people have. Doyou have such a catalog and how do
you tell if you can at all? You know, the difference between maybe
some sort of common uh marker orrash or wound or something versus something that

(38:51):
you would suspect is not uh,you know that is anomalous. Like I
said, the reason I enjoyed theprogram that I because people like you asking
brilliant questions, very excellent. Yes, I do have I have catalog a
lot of them. I often don'ttell people what that catalog is because when

(39:13):
you do that, then people startcoming back with amazing exact same bruisings that
you have. And I'd preferred tosee the bruisings first, and I'll tell
you later. So the one ofthe things we do metically with our doctors.
Uh, we have, and I'llsend this to you if you want
it. You want to Shane,I'll be glad to send it to you.

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It's one of our doctor put togethera bruising patterns and it shows when
you see bruising on someone blue,brown, yellow, and things like that.
We can tell you exactly how longthat bruise is on there and often
I want impact what caused it.So I'll be glad to send it to
you. If you want to emailme, I'll be glad to send it.

(39:57):
You go to alien hundred the alienhunter dot com, click on it
and it'll email me right away andI'll be God sent it to you.
But I'll say to you, soif you've got questions on bruising in the
case in Point guy called me onenight and he told me about his experience.
He was in tears, crying andhorrific event and he had these long
claw marks across his arms. Imean they horrible and I guarantee he didn't

(40:24):
do that himself, and it wasn'this dog's got the longest clothes I've ever
seen for a dog. It wasa reptile. We got him, and
he later claims that he later gotcancer as results of the christ marks on
the fund. I don't know thatto be true. I only tell the
things that I do know. Idon't speculate about all that stuff. I

(40:45):
don't know that to be true.He says that that's that's fine, that's
his story. But the bruisings werehorrific. He had the claw marks down
his chest were it? And theywere quite wide. I mean there were
three like like like the claw markson his arm could have easily done that

(41:05):
went from the top ear down tohis past his nabel and uh anyway,
just horrible looking stuff. And uh, but I to me, I'm different
from other people. I as aninvestigator, everything's a mutilation. To me.
Look, if somebody abducts your kid, and I get tired of hearing

(41:30):
this from people. They always comeup and say, Darryl, you just
don't understand, uh is he?Uh? There there aid from other worlds
and they're just abducting you for experimentsand important thing. I said, if
I catch one of them, canI abduct them? Immoral? Why would

(41:51):
you say that? That's why?Why are the rules applied to them,
but not for us. Why can'twe reverse that. I'm not understanding your
block here. I said, myson got taken when he was six years
old. That changed me from aconcerned parent into an alien hunter overnight.
Right now, I hunted them thathunted me and hunted my son. I

(42:14):
don't look for evidence with a witha with a laptop and a pencil and
paper and camera. I hunt thepilots. Yeah, makes sense. It's
a scary event and we don't youknow, people are being taken against her
will. Can you talk a littlebit about this biological cocoon? What that
is, why they're cocoons? Andyou know when you extract an implant it

(42:37):
comes out looking a certain way.Can you talk a little bit about that.
I'll tell you a great secret aboutimplants that nobody knows about. Everybody
think you read on the internet,You think you know everythingybody, I laughed,
did presentation the big one at theBig Manchester conference. I said,
I'm going to tell you things aboutthe implants you think you know, and

(42:59):
showed several pictures like you had uphere. I said, everybody think those
are the implants, but not they'relike what go through the implants. It's
no, that's just the thing thatwas inside the implant. What I said,
I've told people, including DIDs,the National Institute of Discovery, Science,

(43:21):
New Sciences, and others, andI'm told Bob Biglowin, I'm telling
you people now, and I'll tellyou that right there, that biological covering
around that T shaped thing there,it looks like a shark tooth. Inside
that is a metal two metal objectsto look like a perfect teeth. It's
actually a capital T in prazibit.That's not the implant. What you what

(43:45):
you need to be looking at.This is the case when I went to
India and did the surgeon see andconducted the surgery there with the surgeon,
this is the biological covering. Thebiology is the implant. That's what you
need to be concerned about. Notthe nobody knows that. I said.

(44:07):
I've told everybody this from day one, and nobody seems to They're they're so
busy looking at what they're already lookingat with their rose colored glasses. They're
not looking at it as an investigator. You can't do that. It's just
the biology is the key. Isaid, what are the people that don't

(44:28):
have an implant. It doesn't makeany different pure in the abductee. The
biology is the key. You arethe biology HM, and most of those
covers are isn't the person's own tissue? Some of it? In our opinion
that is correct. I have ascoop mark on my leg, which I

(44:49):
got the second the Aliens came back. After that first night, after they
had the awful experience with me notaccepting their screen memory of a cloud,
my parents saw me. I wasvery upset and I wouldn't tell them what
went on. I never would tellthem because her program, you will you'll
destroy, ignore, or hide yourevidence. I did hid my evidence for

(45:10):
my parents, never told them athing. My mother was ninety some years
old and she saw me on AncientAliens and she said, well, that
was really good and everything that Godwas really impressed with your implants. But
they said you were an abductee.That's just not right. You're an investigator

(45:32):
four And she was horrified that Ihad never know. Well why did you
not tell us? I said,because of that dumb looking Boo Radley look
on your face right now. Ididn't want to see that look on your
face. When I was four yearsold of unbelief on the set of Ancient
Aliens right there, right there.It's the only time I was I did

(45:58):
not see Georgio act there he didthat at all. When he saw those
implants, he free completely out.Oh my godness, he said, those
are actually implants. I said,not a pile of rocks out in the
desert somewhere that somebody's stocked up,you think aliens did? And I just
laughed about it. That's funny,Yeah, I thought. I thought it

(46:20):
was good too. Shame Go ahead, you're on a little bit of a
lag, but we'll wait for youcatch up here. Okay. I was
just gonna ask Daryl, I knowwhy you became interested in implants and that

(46:46):
you know you had that experience yourselfpersonally, But at what point in your
life did you decide that you weregonna go after that, which, no
doubt was a very unique part ofthe abduction phenomena, probably not even known
or well known. But what whatdid you think or what caused you to

(47:07):
say I'm going after that? Well, I have to say, categorically my
own experience. I'd realized after Icame back that after the event, I
was laying in bed the next morning, and my mom always came and laid
my clothes out for to go toschool. And she looked on my pillow

(47:28):
and said, there's blood on yourpillow. Have you been picking your nose
again? I said, you havebeen alive. The answer is, of
course not. But there was bloodon my pillow from the event, So
I mean a good reminder. Sober. I realized that if that happened to
me, it probably happened to someoneelse. And I started looking and I

(47:51):
found an amazing case in Brazil innineteen eighty one. And in fact,
she's on the front of my book, the book and implants the Green Book.
You'll see if you if you everput that book up, you'll see
that the little arrow pointing at thatlifesaver sized object in her brain. Wow.
Yeah, absolutely absolutely scary, stunningcase. Stunning case. And she's

(48:17):
a contactee. By the way,she likes them. She thinks you're going
to say the planet fixed, eelson a hold and all that stuff,
none of which they've done yet.So yeah, do not believe any of
that. What is this Bob Whiteobject? Can we talk about that a
little bit? Sure? The BobWhite object. There are three objects that
we have. There are metallic objectsthat were expelled by a UFA, this

(48:43):
one. Every one of them hada witness in every one of these cases.
This is the Bob White object.This is about fifty years ago.
He and his secretary driving along andthey see a UFO and he's like,
oh my god. He sees ared orange object drop out of the UFO
expelled and he said, let's gocheck it out, and she's please,

(49:05):
don't do that, please don't.He does. He liked me. He
ran over and he and he pickedit, touched the object. It was
still white hot, but it waswarm, but it was not It didn't
hurt it, it didn't injury.He picked the object up, put it
in his trunk of his car.He said, well, that's impossible.
Object can't be like that. Yesit can. If you take a shuttle
tile off of the shuttle and putit put a Bunsen burner under it.

(49:29):
After about twenty minutes later, athing will heat up bright orange red and
you can touch it with your handand it will not hurt you. That's
he did possible. The second objectwe found that was an object he found
and it has been tested and itis extra tressful in origin in all likelihood.
The second object is an object bygiven to me by a piece of

(49:52):
it by Ben Foggen, and it'shad a clump of metal. It looks
like a clump of aluminum. Uthat The first object, that's a Bob
White object, again me totally inhand. I got a sample of that
as well. They wanted me tohave a sample in case there's here.
That's the Ben White object. Abouttwenty years later, Ben Foggin and his

(50:13):
family are all standing out on thedriveway and the UFO comes overhead and they're
like, what the hey, oldthat, you know what I mean,
the fun, fun bunch of peoplelike them, luck, I mean they're
they're in Ohio and they just youknow that's they're just country folks, just
as good as gold. And itexpels an object out of the and it

(50:34):
landed. The hot metal landed onthe driveway and took the form of the
rocks and the driveway so to speak. That they had that tested and again
it showed to be extraterrestril in orgin. Then the third piece is this one
right here, which I got abouttwo years ago from an individual and he
gave it to me gave me twentypercent of it. That's I cut off

(50:55):
twenty percent of it. And anyway, I did these analysis out of my
pocket, so I'm not a richguy. So I haven't done the analysis
on that. But I am reasonablysure that the object will turn up with
the same metallurgy as the other twodid, which is showed to be extra

(51:15):
trestural. The reason when I individualtold me about this one then sent me
a picture of it. I said, why would I believe that? He
said, well, I but ithappened. I said, you're not answering
my question. Why should I believeyour story? He said, well,
he told me the story. AndI said, I'm really good at what

(51:37):
I do, as I determine whereyou're lying to tell the truth if I
want you. You left parts ofyour story, as there's a thing that
happens to a duftees called hiding,ignoring, or destroying your own evidence.
I said, you're not telling methe whole story. He finally did.

(52:00):
He said, well, saw theobject he had. He can't put it
together. He saw the object,was amazed. Next thing he knows,
he's running the other way with hisdog, trying to get away from him.
He doesn't understand. He just gotabducted and got released. Now he's
running. Then he realizes what's kindof done. I need to go back

(52:22):
and check that out. And theyfell over there. He goes back over
looks at the sphere of object andit dropped this metal here you ah.
Oh cool wah. Reminds me ofthe Moury Island case that happened in Washington

(52:44):
State right before Roswell, where thosethey dropped some of this slag or whatever
that actually injured killed the dog,injured the sun and landed on the boat
in the water. And it's justcurious, what you know. Is this
a byproduct? Is it an error? Or is I suspect Shane, I

(53:07):
suspect that this was given to peopleon purpose. It's it's the technology of
it is unique. Uh. It'samorphous. Uh. Aluminum, we don't
have that here, so to speak. When it's lace with strontium. You

(53:28):
don't go down to the store andbuy a bunch of stronium and mix it
up for aluminum. It doesn't happen. Ah. There are a lot of
things about these these three objects.The two for sure that have already been
studied, and so even The reasonI like to send samples out to two
different labs at the same time isbecause if one lab is a government lab

(53:52):
or government watched let's say, Iwant to make sure that when the research
comes back, they did the sametesting and I got the same results,
because some laps will send you informationback to this completely skewed. I promise
you. Wow, I got amulti source, right. Let's yeah,

(54:15):
let's talk a little bit. Imean these few x rays at the peek.
Okay, that's a good one.That X ray is taken by one
of my abductees and she's in Brazil, and the doctor showed that to me,
which is really funny. Doctor Jacobsand doctor Doctor Jacobs and Budd Hopkins

(54:37):
that are sitting at another chair apartfrom us at the airport, and this
doctor brings I told him the xrays, why I can bring it to
me before I flew back to theUnited States. And so the doctor showed
me the X ray. And I'mamazed because he's an abductee too. Remember
what I said about the app destroyhigh to ignore evidence. That doctor looked

(55:00):
at that X ray and could notshow me the implant an XT ray.
I said, you don't see andI pointed in at the X ray in
the second toe down. You can'tgive me inch and a half long in
between the toes. You can't seethat. He said, what, he's
an abductee's programmed really to notice thesethings. Wow, And he's a doctor.

(55:23):
It doesn't matter. He's still anabductee. The rules of bloody you
like to do anybody that might theobject the lady's foe. That's the first
surgery we did in came Reell,California, and on August the eighteenth,
I think it was nineteen ninety five. There were three objects inside the lady's

(55:45):
toe. And her doctor when youfirst showed me this in Houston, I
said, that looks like surgical clipsfrom an osteotomy. She said, that's
what my doctor said. And Isaid, and what did you tell him?
I told him I've never had asurgery in my life. I said,
I'm interested. And then she tellsme a better abduction experiences, and

(56:05):
it just got infinites bigger and better. The reason this case interests me probably
is much or more than any othercase that I have, is because,
in my opinion, which I don'tknow if you want to talk about,
we may not have time. Youasked the question about the alien, or
they're different races my category the betterfaster your seatbelts. If you got one,

(56:31):
this is the alien unders answer aboutthe show up? Ready, hold
onto my hat. I don't know. I haven't I haven't met I haven't
met any races of aliens yet.Hmm, oh aliens. We're looking at
the five ones, the little gray, the taller gray, the reptile,

(56:52):
the praying manas the Nordic, andthe Bigfoot. These guys are all hats
clone made, manufactured for the personfor the purpose of making you believe they're
aliens from other planets. And ifthey abduct you and then tell you there
from Zeta, rearticulate you believe thatwithout a question. I don't. First

(57:13):
of all, if you look ateach one of these, you put your
your I use seven different hats toevaluate anything. All these hats are different,
as Nina days. There's a medical, aided science hat, a cop
hat, an intelligence hat, NativeAmerican hat, a spiritual hat. All
of these look at any piece ofevidence at the same time. And when

(57:35):
you ask me a question, Ihave to realize which hat are you wearing
at the time. Most of ushave a UFO hat. That's the worst
hat you can wear as an investigator, because I could get fooled. It
is it has been fooled by thealien has been fooled by liars, hoaxers,
skeptics and all kinds of people,government and everyone else. So I

(57:57):
ask people want to do my presentationsto put on a cop had. I
said, it's going to be realuncomfortable, but I want you to question
everything, and that's really a realgood thing to do. So the bottom
line is the small alien, thelittle short guy, he's he's the I
call him the cosmic pizza delivery guy. He has an IQ of approximately eighty.

(58:22):
That's called a moron. You said, well, you're being prejudiced.
No, I'm not. I'm tellingyou this. You want to know about
him or not. He can't putyour clothes on right, and he makes
huge mistakes. He puts you inthe wrong bed, the wrong location outside
the house sometimes, and he makeshuge mistakes. The doctor type who looks

(58:42):
just like him, but taller anda lot smarter, got an IQ about
one hundred and thirty five and forty. He is if there's any surgery,
you're going to be done on Unicutting, so he's going to be the
guy that does it. Then yougot the reptile. He's usually the guy
in charge, and he means thedevil himself. He's uh, he's a
tyrant ever since the word. They'realso very sexual. And then you got

(59:07):
the Nordic guide. There's well Idon't agree with you. I said,
well, wait a minute, Isaid, where do you think you get
Nordic DNA. Let's take a bigwild guest here, probably Norway. I'm
going to take a wild guests here, probably Norway. All the DNA of
every one of these creatures comes fromplanet birth, every one of them.
Who do you think DNA come from? That's a simian, it's an ape

(59:30):
like creature. Well it's it's Isaid, that's your opinion. That don't
mean anything. What can you provein a court of law? I said.
Doctor Melbourncatcham did the DNA analysis onBigfoot, and she said he's a
simon. I said, well,everybody knows that. But the other thing
she found was a mitochondrial DNA,which was amazing. It turned out to
be modern Get this modern human woman. Oh well, I said, well

(59:58):
it's space is yeah, it's not. The DNA comes from here, this
planet, right here. It doesn'tmean there aren't aliens out there. Probably
somewhere out there, millions of Idon't know, you know, could we
millions of I don't know. I'mjust telling you the ones that are playing
with us right now, for hoodwinkness. Are they under our oceans? Some

(01:00:22):
of them are, of course,I've been telling people. People are just
now beginning to believe it. Right, So we only have five minutes left,
Daryl, and I want to touchon this before we run out of
time. You'd mentioned a couple kindof I don't like using the word necessarily
symptoms, but you know, cravingsalt like you know, these types of

(01:00:45):
things being programmed with this app notto hide and destroy evidence. What are
some other commonalities that you've come across, Yeah, that kind of we've abductees
and contact these together. Well percentof people taking in any subduction experiences of
Native American inn and Irish cultic.You're Scottish period, as soon as I

(01:01:07):
I don't care if you're black,I don't care if you're Turk. When
I was in Turkey three different timesthey said, mister simm Jut is the
greatest presentation we've ever seen. Wow, fantastic. We loved it. But
you made one big mistake. Isaid, help me here, I'm coachable.
Tell me what the mistake was.You said, four or five percent
of people taking or Native American innand Irish strutigus or Celtic. I said,

(01:01:27):
that is correct, that is afact. We're Turks. I said,
so wid my stats are correct.Well we're not. I said,
listen to me carefully. If youdid not have Native American, I need
Irish, Celtic or Scottish blood inyou, I said, then you're part
of the fifty five percent that aren'tthat. Oh, I said, I

(01:01:50):
but my stats are correct. Isaid that on purpose. I said.
You people don't realize that you livedin tpees long ago. You don't even
know your own culture. Where doyou think you got tpiece from? What
do you think the Native American Sequoiaof my tribe, the Turokey and you
and we What do you think hewears a turbine on his head? You're

(01:02:16):
missing the whole point. They dida DNA testing on Turks and certain Native
Americans in the north part of thecountry and found that the Turks are Native
American, Indian, Irish, Scottish, Pelic, they're Native American for sure.
And Turk they know that for afact now. Then they all wrote

(01:02:36):
me and said you were right,and I said, I don't care about
you don't need to stroke me either. I know my stats are right right.
Wow, Darlai, I have aquick question for you, if I
may, real quick. The messages, the programming, I was also fascinated
about, you know, the stateof the world right now. People,

(01:02:58):
it's hard to stay positive and stuff. But it's I found it interesting that
that a lot of the abductees,if you ask them, they feel that
they are alone and that they alwayshave been. And I'm wondering if you
can talk briefly about that. Surethat one of the things I asked people
when I go to a conference,I ask have you've seen a UFO and

(01:03:19):
all these different questions. One ofthe big questions I'll ask them how many
of you? How many of you? I said, you don't have to
raise your hand, I said,you know who you are, and I
know who you are. I said, how many of you out there think
that even though your parents love caredfor you, you're not really your parents?
And a few hands will go up. Now you don't have to raise

(01:03:39):
them. I said, I knowwho you are. And I said the
second question I want you to Iwant you to ask, in your own
heart, in your own mind,how many of you, regardless of the
fact that your parents' love cared foryou, and you've got good relatives,
good siblings, you're all alone andyou know it. And my wife heard
that presentation. She looked at meand said, wait a minute, are

(01:04:02):
you all alone? Then she startedcalling. I said, it has nothing
to do with you. What canI do with you? Not being a
great wife? You had them?I said, but this is this is
a program that's running inside us.It's downloaded. It's an app. It's

(01:04:23):
an alien app. Wow, fascinating. That is fascinating. Well, you
know, we're down to a minutehere. This has been an interesting,
crazy night. To say the least. We haveted we never had before.
We can thank you enough. Ihope that will get you back on h

(01:04:46):
you know, down the line,because it's come back anytime you want me
on any subject something. All right, this sounds great. I really appreciate
you being here. I want tothank you to all our listeners. Thank
you Tara, thank you, Shane, thank you kaj Ra, Bill,
and thank you Chanelle. It's beena fascinating show, and we all we
all hope that all of you outthere have a great, fantastic rescue your
week, and we will not seeyou next week. So I want to

(01:05:10):
wish all of you a happy Thanksgivingand enjoy your Thanksgiving with your loved ones,
and we will see you the followingweek. So take care, everybody,
have a good night. Thanks butthanks Daryl, thank you, thank
you. We've got four hourss onthem. I said, yeah, like

(01:05:39):
some of your cattle. Aw whotold you that? What do you do
here? Who do you hear aboutthat? We haven't told anybody that.
I said. Look, I'm anextra cop X. See you think I've
got a brain. I can figurea couple of things out. He said,
what color? So I told him. He said, oh my god,
we didn't tell anybody that. Isaid, It doesn't make any difference.
I said, we have the samewe have if we found fluorescence on

(01:06:02):
our cattle at which I called myabductees. And he says, I called
myself CAW two thirteen, by theway, So I don't differentiate from anyone
else. No, there's a wholestory behind that. But anyway, he
said, is there are there isthere a pattern of these Flores says yes.
I said, there's procedural things.There are casual contacts, like if

(01:06:26):
they touch you with their fingers thatwill show up. And there's there's a
procedural techniques they use on you.I said, I've got a police officer
out of your state, believer ornot, one of my abductees that got
abducted three different times within a week. Now, that is almost impossible.
That almost never happens. People tellme that, I think they're really making

(01:06:48):
it up. She actually did,and there were three different levels of fluorescence
on her huh. And I madea power point out of the whole thing.
Unbelievable. It's you can even seethe equipment where they picked it up
and touched it like the little scissorlike forceips. They laid them on her
arm, and then you can seethat the inprint of them in Florence's laying

(01:07:10):
on her arm. Absolutely amazing stuff. That's procedural stuff. So she has
casual contact and procedural at the sametime. There's another level of florists.
I never tell anybody about because ifI do, then people will start saying,
yeah, me too. I knowI've got a better idea. You
show me the florist's and I'll tellyou what it is. Cool. But

(01:07:33):
a case in point in which youbrought up brilliantly. I think a lady
came to my house one day,one of my abductees, and she says
it. She says, Darrella,I think I think I got abductive,
but I'm not sure, and I'mprobably making it up. A typical good,
good abductee. She's always questioning herexperiences. I could be making it

(01:07:54):
up. It could have been abad dream. It could be I said,
he could be anything. It couldbe moonburn. I said, give
me a break, tell me whathappened. So she told me should they?
Maybe they made me hold one ofthese little, horrible little baby things
with big bug eye black eyes.And I said, and then what they
maybe they wanted me to? Ididn't want to hold it, and they

(01:08:15):
said it's going to die if youdon't take care of it. So they're
trying to use the moral thing onyou. Wow, I said, like
they care anyway when it does ornot. I said, A mortality right
among the little alien guys is horrific. It's so huge. Wow, I
said, why do you think theyhave collect tons of sperm from you and
eggs and from you and add spermfrom men. I said, this stuff

(01:08:38):
is much bigger than you imagine.Anyway, she said, well, so
I held it and I didn't wantto, and it was awful. And
I said, then what happened?She said, And then they made me
suckle it? And I said ah, I said, okay, so she
tells the whole story. And Isaid, well, I'm probably I probably
just had a dream, but Iprobably dreamed the whole thing. I told
my wife over, I said,you take her to the bath and take

(01:09:00):
this special black light that I haveright here, about a four hundred dollars
life about five hundred action. It'sa special light will detect fluorescence on the
shroud of to Win two thousand yearsago. Give you an idea. Well,
anyway, you don't need that.You can get a little tiny black
light on her website for five bucks. That's all you need. That little

(01:09:25):
tiny thing will do ninety percent ofwhat the other one will do. Anyway,
so I said, you take herin the bathroom and you take this
black light hit it on every levelof florestance that we have. I mean,
we've got every level of Florestan's onthe thing. You can imagine from
the soret, which is the levelthat we find blood on the shrouded for

(01:09:48):
in anyway, She came back outand said, I found forests on her
and on her breast. I foundit on her neck and on her hand
where she held the baby. Ohwow, I saw on every orifice.
She said, that's correct. Andof course when the lady saw the floor,

(01:10:11):
says she freaked completely up because likeevery abductee, they act like they
act like grape victims the rund thebathroom, wash themselves and try to clean
everything off. You won't get it. Ar just makes it, It makes
it brighter. Wow, Daryl,I know you mentioned earlier some of the

(01:10:31):
type of markings that people will get. Have you cataloged those markings? I
know, I'm a member of thee ERT and we've cataloged certain markings that
people have. Do you have sucha catalog And how do you tell if
you can at all? You knowthe difference between maybe some sort of common
uh marker or rash or wound orsomething versus something that you would suspect is

(01:10:58):
not. Uh, you know thatis anomalous. Like I said, the
reason I enjoyed the program tonight,it's because people like you asking brilliant questions,
very excellent. Yes I do.I have catalog, a lot of
them. I often don't tell peoplewhat that catalog is because when you do

(01:11:19):
that, then people start coming backwith amazing exact same bruisings that you have.
And I've preferred to see the bruisingsfirst and I'll tell you later.
So the one of the things wedo medically with our doctors, uh,
we have and I'll send this toyou if you want to. You want

(01:11:39):
to, Shane, I'll be gladto send it to you. It's one
of our doctors put together bruising patternsand it shows when you see bruising on
someone blue, brown, yellow,and things like that, we can tell
you exactly how long that bruise ison there and often what impact, what
caused it. So I'll be Godsent it to you. If you want

(01:12:01):
to email me, I'll be godto send it. You go to eend
the Alien hunter dot com and clickon it and it'll email me right away,
and I'll be glad send it toyou, but I'll send to you
if you've got questions on bruising inthe case in point guy called me one
night and he told me about hisexperience. He was in tears, crying
and horrific event. And he hadthese long claw marks across his arms.

(01:12:27):
I mean they horrible and I guaranteehe didn't do that himself, and it
wasn't His dog's got the longest clothesI've ever seen for a dog who was
a reptile. We got him,and he later claims that he later got
cancer as result of the cratch markson his fund. I don't know that
to be true. I only tellthe things that I do know. I

(01:12:49):
don't speculate about all that stuff.I don't know that to be true.
He says that that's that's fine,that's his story. Uh, but the
bruisings rip. They had the clawmarks down his chest were it and they
were quite wide. I mean therewere three like like like the claw marks

(01:13:09):
on his arm could have easily donethat went from the top ear down to
his past his nabel and Uh.Anyway, just horrible looking stuff and h
But I to me, I'm differentother people, I as an investigator.
Everything's a mutilation to me. Lookif somebody abducts your kid, and I

(01:13:35):
get tired of hearing this from people. They always come up and say,
Darryl, you just don't understand.Uh he uh. There there as from
other worlds and they're just abducting youfor experiments and important thing. I sten
if I catch one of them,can I abduct them? Immoral? Why

(01:13:57):
would you say that? That's why? Why did the rules applied to them
but not for us? Why can'twe reverse that? I said, I'm
not understanding your life here. Isaid, my son got taken when he
was six years old. That changedme from a concerned parent into an alien
hunter overnight. Right now. Ihunted them that hunted me and hunted my

(01:14:19):
son. I don't look for evidencewith a with a with a laptop and
a pencil and paper and camera.I hunt the pilots. Yeah, makes
sense. It's a scary event.We don't you know, people are being
taken against her will. Can youtalk a little bit about this biological cocoon?
What that is? Why they're cocoons? And you know when you extract

(01:14:43):
an implant it comes out looking acertain way. Can you talk a little
bit about that. I'll tell youa great secret about implants that nobody knows
about. Everybody thinks you read onthe internet. You think you know everythingbody,
I laughed. Presentation, the bigone with the big Manchester conference,
I said, I'm gonna tell youthings about the implants you think you know,
and showed several pictures like you hadup here. I said, everybody

(01:15:08):
think those are the implants, butno, we're like, what through the
implants? It's no, that's justthe thing that was inside the impact.
What I said, I've told people, including DIDs, the National Institute of
Discovery Science, the New Sciences andothers, and I'm told Bob Bigloin,

(01:15:30):
I'm telling you people now, andI'll tell that right there, that biological
covering around that T shaped thing there, it looks like a shark tooth.
Inside that is a metal two metalobjects to look like a perfect tea.
It's actually a capital T in specifics. That's not the implant. What you

(01:15:53):
what you need to be looking at. This is the case when I went
to India and did the surgeon andconducted the surgery there with the surgeon,
this is the biological covering. Thebiology is the implant. That's what you
need to be concerned about, notthe answer. Nobody knows that, I

(01:16:13):
said. I've told her boy thisfrom day one, and nobody seems to
They're they're so busy looking at whatthey're already looking at with their rose colored
glasses. They're not looking at itas an investigator. You can't do that.
It's just the biology is the key. I said, what about people
that don't have an implant, Itdoesn't make any different pure in abductee.

(01:16:38):
The biology is the key. Youare the biology hmm. And most of
those covers are isn't the person's owntissue? Some of it? In our
opinion, that is correct. Ihave a scoop mark on my leg,
which I got the second the alienscame back. After that first night,

(01:17:00):
after they had the awful experience withme not accepting your screen memory of a
clown, my parents saw me.I was very upset and I wouldn't tell
them what went on. I neverwould tell them because a program you will
you'll destroy, ignore or hide yourevidence. I did hid my evidence for
my parents, never told them athing. My mother was ninety some years

(01:17:21):
old and she saw me on ancientaliens and she said, well that was
really good and everything. That Godwas really impressed with your implants. But
they said you were an abductee.That's just not right. You're an investigator,
i'd before, and she was horrifiedthat I had never Well why did

(01:17:45):
you not tell us? I said, because of that dumb looking Boo Radley
look on your face right now.I didn't want to see that look on
your face when I was four yearsold of unbelief. Here's on the set
of Ancient Aliens right there, didright there, it's the all time I
did not see Georgio act there.He did not at all. When he

(01:18:09):
saw those implants, he free completelyout. Oh my godness, he said,
those are those actually implants? Isaid, not a pile of rocks
out in the desert somewhere that somebody'sstocked up you think aliens did? And
I just laughed about it. Yeah, I thought, I thought it was
good to shame. Go ahead,you're on a little bit of a lag,

(01:18:32):
but we'll wait for you. Catchup here. Okay. I was
just gonna ask Daryl, I knowwhy you became interested in implants, and

(01:18:54):
that you know you had that experienceyourself personally, But at what point in
your life did you decide that youwere going to go after that, which,
no doubt was a very unique partof the abduction phenomena, probably not
even known or well known. Butwhat what what what did you think or

(01:19:14):
what caused you to say I'm goingafter that? Well, I have to
say, categorically my own experience.I'd realized after I came back that that
after the event. I was layingin bed the next morning and my mom
always came and laid my clothes outfor to go to school, and she
looked on my pillow and said,there's blood on your pillow. Have you

(01:19:36):
been picking your nose again? Isaid, uh, you have belied.
The answer is, of course not. But there was blood on my pillow
from the event, So I meana good reminder, somber. I realized
that if that happened to me,it probably happened to someone else. And
I started looking and I found anamazing case and Brazil in nineteen eighty one,

(01:20:02):
And in fact, she's on thefront of my book, the book
The Alien Implants, the Green Book. You'll see if you if you ever
put that book up, you'll seethat the little arrow pointing at that lifesaver
sized object in her brain. Wow. Yeah, absolutely absolutely scary, stunning
case, stunning case. And she'sa contactee. By the way, she

(01:20:26):
likes them. She thinks you're goingto say the planet fixed, sels on
a hold and all that stuff,none of which say done yet. So
yeah, do not believe any ofthat. What is this Bob White object?
Can we talk about that a littlebit? Sure? The Bob White
There are three objects that we have. There are metallic objects that were expelled
by a UFA, this one.Every one of them had a witness in

(01:20:51):
every one of these cases. Thisis the Bob White object. This is
about fifty years ago. He andhis secretary driving along and they see a
UFO and he's like, oh mygod. He sees a red orange object
drop out of the UFO expelled andhe said, let's go check it out,

(01:21:11):
and she's please don't do that,please don't. Anyway, he does.
He liked me. He ran overand he and he picked the touched
the object. He was still whitehot, but it was warm, but
it was not It didn't hurt it, it didn't injury. He picked the
object up, put it in histrunk of his car. He said well,
that's impossible. Object can't be likethat. Yes it can. If
you take a shuttle tile off ofthe shuttle and put it put a Bunsen

(01:21:33):
burner under it. After about twentyminutes later a thing will heat up bright
orange red and you can touch itwith your hand and it will not hurt
you. That's he is possible.The second object we've found. That was
an object he found and it hasbeen tested and it is extra dressful in
origin in all likelihood. The secondobject is an object by given to me

(01:21:57):
by a piece of it by BenFoggen, and it's had a clump of
metal. It looks like a clumpof aluminum. U. That's the first
object. That's a Bob White object. Again me holy in hand. I
got a sample of that as well. They wanted me to have a sample
in case there's here. That's theBen White object. About twenty years later,
Ben uh Foggin and his family areall standing out on the driveway and

(01:22:21):
the UFO comes overhead and they're like, what the hey old that? You
know what I mean, the fun, fun bunch of people like him a
lot. I mean, they're they'rein Ohio and they just you know,
that's they're just country folks, justas good as gold. And it expels
an object out of the and itlanded. The hot metal landed on the

(01:22:42):
driveway and took the form of therocks and the driveway, so to speak.
That they had that tested and againit showed to be extraterrestrial in orgy.
Then the third piece is this oneright here, which I got about
two years ago from an individual,and he gave it to me, gave
me twenty percent of it. That'sI cut off twenty percent of it.

(01:23:03):
And anyway, I do these analysisout of my pocket, so I'm not
a rich guy, so I haven'tdone the analysis on that, but I
am reasonably sure that the object willturn up with the same metallurgy as the
other two did, which was showedto be extra treastural. The reason I

(01:23:25):
when I individual told me about this, when they sent me a picture of
it, I said, why wouldI believe that? He said, well,
I but it happened. I said, you're not answering my question.
Why should I believe your story?He said, well, he told me
the story. And I said,I'm really good at what I do,

(01:23:45):
as I determine where you're lying.To tell the truth if I wants you.
You left parts of your story,as there's a thing that happens to
a duftees called hiding, ignoring,or destroying your own evidence. I said,
you're not telling me the whole story. He finally did. He said,

(01:24:06):
well, he saw the object.He can't put it together. He
saw the object, was amazed.Next thing he knows, he's running the
other way with his dog trying toget away from him. He doesn't understand
he just got abducted and got released. Now he's running. Then he realizes,

(01:24:28):
let's kind of tell him. Ineed to go back and check that
out. And the abbe fell overthere. He goes back over looks at
the sphere of object and it dropsthis metal. Got to have it right
here. Ah oh cool, ohwoh. Reminds me of the Moury Island

(01:24:48):
case that happened in Washington State rightbefore Riswell, where those they dropped some
of this slag or whatever actually injuredkilled the dog, injured the sun and
landed on the boat in And it'sjust curious what you know, is this
byproduct? Is it an error?Or is or I suspect Shane I suspect

(01:25:15):
that this was given to people onpurpose. It's it's the technology of it
is unique. Uh, it's amorphous. Uh, Aluminum, we don't have
that here, so to speak.When it's lace with strontium. You don't
go down to the store and buya bunch of stronium and mix it up

(01:25:38):
aluminum. It doesn't happen, allright. There are a lot of things
about these these three objects, thetwo for sure that have already been studied.
And so even the reason I liketo send samples out to two different
labs at the same time is becauseif one lab is a government lab or

(01:26:00):
government watched, let's say, Iwant to make sure that when the research
comes back, they did the sametesting and I got the same results,
because some laps will send you informationback to this completely skewed, I promise
you. Wow, crazy, No, I got a multi source, right.

(01:26:21):
Let's yeah, let's talk a littlebit. I mean these few X
rays at the peak. Okay,that's a good one. That X ray
is taken by one of my abductees, and she's in Brazil, and the
doctor showed that to me, whichis really funny. Doctor Jacobs and doctor

(01:26:42):
Doctor Jacobs and Budd Hopkins are sittingat another chair apart from us at the
airport, and this doctor brings Itold him the X ray's why I can
bring it to me before I flewback to the United States. And so
the doctor showed me the X ray. And I'm amazed because he's an abductee
too. Remember what I said aboutthe app destroy high to ignore evidence.

(01:27:05):
That doctor looked at that X rayand could not show me the implant an
X ray. I said, youdon't see and I pointed in at that
x ray in the second toe down. You can't an inch and a half
long in between the toes. Youcan't see that. He said, what,

(01:27:25):
he's an abductee's programmed really to noticethese things. Wow, And he's
a doctor. It doesn't matter.He's still an abductee. The rules blind
you'd like to do anybody that mightthe lady's that's the first surgery we did
in came Reo, California, andon August the eighteenth, I think it
was nineteen ninety five. There werethree objects inside the lady's toe, and

(01:27:53):
her doctor when he first showed methis in Houston, I said, that
looks like surgical clips from an osteotomy. She said, that's what my doctor
said. And I said, andwhat did you telling me? I told
him, I've never had a surgeryin my life. I said, I'm
interested. And then she tells mebetter abduction experiences, and it just got
infant and bigger and better. Thereason this case interests me probably is much

(01:28:16):
or more than any other case thatI have, is because in my opinion,
which I don't know if you wantto talk about, we may not
have time. You asked the questionabout the alien or they're different races.
My categ better faster your seatbelts ifyou got one. This is the alien

(01:28:39):
unders answer about the show up?Ready, hold onto my hat. I
don't know. I haven't I haven'tmet. I haven't met any races of
aliens yet. Hm hm oh aliens. We're looking at the five ones,
the little Gray, the taller grayTile, the praying Mannis, the Nordic,

(01:29:01):
and the Bigfoot. These guys areall hats cloned, made and manufactured
for the person for the purpose ofmaking you believe they're alien from other planets.
And if they abduct you and thentell you they're from Zeta, particulate
you believe that without a question.I don't First of all, if you
look at each one of these andyou put your your I use seven different

(01:29:25):
hats to evaluate anything. All thesehats are different, as Nina days.
There's a medical, added science hat, a cop hat, an intelligence hat,
Native American hat, the spiritual hat. All of these look at any
piece of evidence at the same time. And when you ask me a question,
I have to realize which hat areyou wearing at the time. Most

(01:29:46):
of us have a UFO hat.That's the worst hat you can wear as
an investigator, because if you getfooled, it is it has been fooled
by the alien that has been fooledby liars, hoaxers, skeptics and all
kinds of bea government and everyone else. So I asked, people want to
do my presentations, to put ona coppat. I said, it's going

(01:30:08):
to be real uncomfortable, but Iwant you to question everything, and that's
really a real good thing to do. So the bottom line is the small
alien, the little short guy,he's he's the I call him the cosmic
pizza delivery guy. He has anIQ of approximately eighty. That's called a

(01:30:29):
moron. You said, well,you're being prejudiced. Now I'm not I'm
telling you this. You want toknow about him or not. He can't
put your clothes on right, andhe makes huge mistakes. He puts you
in the wrong bed, the wronglocation outside the house sometimes, and he
makes huge mistakes. The doctor typewho looks just like him, but taller

(01:30:49):
and lot smarter, got an IQabout one hundred and thirty five and forty.
He is if there's any surgery's goingto be done on UNI cutting,
so he's going to be the guythat does it. Then you got the
reptile. He's usually the guy incharge, and he's he means the devil
himself. He's uh, he's atyrant ever since the word. They're also

(01:31:11):
very sexual. And then you gotthe Nordic guide. There's well I don't
agree with you. I said,well, wait a minute, I said,
where do you think you get NordicDNA. Let's take a big wild
guest here, probably Norway. I'mgoing to take a wild guests here,
probably Norway. All the DNA ofevery one of these creatures comes from planet
birth, every one of them.What do you think DNA come from?

(01:31:35):
That's a Simian, it's an apelike creature. Well, it's it's I
said, that's your opinion. Thatdon't mean anything. What can you prove
in a court of law? Isaid, Doctor Melbourneketcham did the DNA analysis
on Bigfoot, and she said he'sa simion. I said, well everybody
knows that. But the other thingshe found was a mitochondrial DNA, which
was amazing. It turned out tobe modern Get this modern human woman.

(01:32:00):
Oh well that's interesting. Well it'sspacy, I mean, is it.
No, it's not. The DNAcomes from here, this planet, right
here. It doesn't mean there aren'taliens out there. Probably somewhere out there,
millions of I don't know, youknow, good we millions of I
don't know. I'm just telling youthe ones that are playing with us right

(01:32:23):
now, for hoodwinkness. Are theyunder our oceans? Some of them are,
of course, I've been telling people. People are just now beginning to
believe it. Right. So weonly have five minutes left, Daryl,
and I want to touch on thisbefore we run out of time. You'd
mentioned a couple kind of I don'tlike using the word necessarily symptoms, but

(01:32:47):
you know, craving salt, likeyou know, these types of things being
programmed with this app not to hideand destroy evidence. What are some other
commonalities that you've come across. Yeah, that kind of weave abductees and contact
these together. Well, forty fivepercent of people taking any subduction experiences of

(01:33:09):
Native American in and Irish Cultic Scottishin period as soon as I I don't
care if you're black, I don'tcare if you're Turk. When I was
in Turkey three different times, theysaid, mister Simms, the greatest presentation
we've ever seen. Wow, fantastic, we loved it. But you made
one big mistake. I said,help me here, I'm coachable. Tell
me what the mistake was. Yousaid, forty five percent of people taking

(01:33:31):
or Native American inn and Irish,Scottish or Celtic. I said, that
is correct, that is a fact. We're Turks. I said, so
wid my stats are correct. Well, we're not. I said, listen
to me carefully. If you didnot have Native American I knew, Irish,
Celtic or Scottish blood in you,I said, then you're part of
the fifty five percent that aren't that. Oh, I said, I but

(01:33:57):
my stats are correct. I saidthat on purpose. I said, you
people don't realize that you lived inTPS long ago. You don't even know
your own culture. Where do youthink you got tpece from? What do
you think the Native American Sequoia ofmy tribe the Cherokee and you and we

(01:34:17):
What do you think he wears aturbine on his head? You're missing the
whole point. They did a DNAtesting on Turks and certain Native Americans in
the north part of the country andfound that the Turks are Native American,
Indian, Irish, Scottish, Pelice. They're Native American for sure, and

(01:34:39):
Turk. They know that for afact now. Then they all wrote me
and said you were right. Isaid, I don't care about you.
Don't need to stroke me either.I know my stats are right right.
H Wow, Dearli, I havea quick question for you, if I
may, real quick. The messages, the programming, I was also fascinated

(01:35:00):
about, you know, the stateof the world right now. People it's
hard to stay positive and stuff,but it's I found it interesting that a
lot of the abductees, if youask them, they feel that they are
alone and that they always have been. And I'm wondering if you can talk
briefly about that sure that. Oneof the things I asked people when I

(01:35:23):
go to a conference, I haveyou've seen a UFO and all these different
questions. One of the big questions, I'll ask them how many of you?
How many of you? I said, you don't have to raise your
hand. I said, you knowwho you are, and I know who
you are. I said, howmany of you out there think that even
though your parents love cared for you, they're not really your parents? And

(01:35:44):
a few hands will go up.Now, you don't have to raise them.
I said, I know who youare. I said the second question,
I want you to. I wantyou to ask, in your own
heart, in your own mind,how many of you, regardless of the
fact that your parents love, caredfor you, and you've got good relatives,
good siblings, you're all alone.You know it. And my wife
heard that presentation and she looked atme and said, wait a minute,

(01:36:10):
are you all alone? Of course, and she started calling. I said,
has nothing to do with me.I can do with you not being
a great wife. You had them, I said, but this is this
is a program that's running inside us. It's downloading. It's an app.
It's an alien app. Wow,fascinating. That is fascinating. Well,

(01:36:35):
you know we're down to a minutehere. This has been an interesting,
crazy night to say the least,we have we never had before. We
can thank you. I hope thatwill get you back on you know,
down the line, because it's comeback anytime you want me on any subject,

(01:36:58):
something that sounds great. I reallyappreciate you being here. I want
to thank you to all our listeners. Thank you Tara, thank you Shane,
thank you kag Erra, Bill,and thank you Chanelle. It's been
a fascinating show and we all hopethat all of you out there have a
great, fantastic rescue your week andwe will not see you next week.
So I want to wish all ofyou a happy Thanksgiving and enjoy your Thanksgiving

(01:37:19):
with your loved ones, and wewill see you the following week. So
take care, everybody, have agood night. Thanks bye, Thanks Daryl,
Thanks Katie, thank you,

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