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Government's tonight, Military's tonight, eventhe mainstream media tonight. But they are
here and they've been queer for verylong time. The Mutual uf FOR Network
has been on the front lines uncoveringthe truth since nineteen sixty nine, and
now we're sharing that truth with you. Welcome, Lufana. What's Up with

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we alone in the universe? AndI think our guest tonight has some really
strong answers about that question. Wehave Ismael Perez with us tonight and we
are so lucky to have him.His book has just been exploding worldwide,
and I am so anxious to getto talk with him here in a few
minutes. First, I'd like tobring in my awesome, wonderful co host.

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We have Tara Diaulas. You canalso see Tara right here on Sky
Tour Live with Mark di Antonio.How you doing, Tara? Did you
have a good, good Labor Dayweekend? Did you do anything fun?
Yes, just kind of hung outby a pool at one point in time,
and you know, trying to getout of this heat. But it's
just always fun to have a holiday. So what's the temperatures in Arizona?

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You know, I'm always fascinated bythat. I think it's around one oh
seven ish today, so it's good. It's a little humid, but it's
nice. It's pretty cool. Goodthing you have that swimming pool. All
right, And also from Arizona,the Arizona State Director Phoenix Shane heard welcome
Shane. What did you do thisLabor Day weekend? Hey guys, great,
Hey Shane, how was your LaborDay weekend? You disappeared on us.

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Yeah, oh there he is,wait, oh there he is.
So did you have a good LaborDay weekend? Shane? Yeah? Sure,
did we went and saw the movieOppenheimer, Oh, what did you
think of that? That's on theWas it good? I heard it was
long. It's like three hours,isn't it. Yeah, it's three hours.

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And it wasn't quite what I thoughtit was gonna be, but it
was good. It was very muchabout the morality of it in the struggle
everyone had versus. It wasn't likeheavy on the technical and you know it.
It was more a story about thepeople involved. But it was very
interesting. I think it's important foryou know, recent generations of people who

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weren't alive back then to kind ofunderstand, you know, what that was
about and how you know, impactfulit is on our society. So that
was good, right, cool forsure? For sure. Well, I
wanted to, you know, theUFO community lost another gem of a soul,
Calvin Parker, So I wanted to, you know, rest in peace,

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Calvin. You know a lot ofFacebook posts and Calvin's gone fish and
he loved to fish. And Ifound a good little three minute video that
kind of explains Calvin Parker's famous sightingthere. So if we can run that
terra in honor of Calvin, thatwould be awesome. Almost since the beginning
of time, man has wondered what'sthe crits lie beyond the stars? One

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gochet Man believes we are not alone. Has to be a world out there
somewhere. I don't know who itis. It has to be a wall
out there, somewhere they come from. Regardless of where they come from.
Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker say theymet them here on the Pascagoula River.

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We were sitting there a fishing andI heard some type of hissing sound,
and when I looked around, itwas something that had come down behind Calvin
and me, but some kind ofbig craft door just to period there,
like a sliding door, and twoof'em took hold of me by the
shoulders, and one took hold ofCalvin, and I saw Calvin lulimp Once

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inside the craft, Hickson remembers beingexamined by an oblong shaped instrument that hovered
around him. He was completely paralyzed. Only his eyes could move. Hickson
doesn't know how long he was there, but the unknown creatures released him sometime
later, physically unharmed. They caredme back out there and put me on

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the ground about where they'd picked meup. From and I heard a zipping
child again, and I looked aroundand that crack was gone, you like
that. Later that same evening,both Hickson and Parker told their unbelievable story
to the Jackson County Sheriff's Department.Didn't know it at that time, but

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they had a tape playing there andafter they listened to them, after they
brought a side of that room andlistener to that tape, then they decided
something had happened to us. Untilnow, that tape has never been aired
on television. The tape shows justhow scared the two men were just hours
after being allegedly abducted. I wasdoing the crying very listen maricos Or,

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son of a civil doctors. Afterlisten to Charles's original description of the craft's
lighting compared to his description twenty sevenyears later, at a broom, let
it disguise, you'll blow that.You don't learn the parts age into it
the house. It was just surfect. It was either flashing or pulsing,

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not on which you were. Buthe would bluish. Charles's son, Eddie,
admits at first he couldn't believe hisfather's story either. Eddie says he
became a believer after hearing his fathertell the exact same story time and time
again. Daddy's taken numerous polygraphs andunder hypnosis and understanding it's almost impossible to

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lie under hypnosis, and it's neverchanged since the alien contact. Hickson has
published a book at his own expenseand still lives modestly in go Chay.
Calvin Parker hasn't spoken publicly about theevent in years. Hickson says he understands
why people have trouble believing his story, but he firmly believes the truth about
alien existence will be revealed one dayin the near future. Wow, what

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a case, a historic case thathas stood the test of time. These
guys were very credible witnesses, storiesnever changed. So sad loss for the
community, and he kind of pavedthe way for a lot of other witnesses
to come forward as well. Sosure, surely great. Yeah, So
so on that. No, we'regoing to change the subject here to today's

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meme. So I have a vintagememe here today, and it shows two
aliens collecting specimens from Earth. Soyou can see the two bicycles on the
ground and two kids in a jar. Looks like a little mason jar.
And then one alien is saying tothe other, now, this time gorok
punched some holes in the lid.Oh no, I have never done that,

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like with grasshoppers or something. Yeah, when your kid you forgot the
air or the water. Oh ohno, oh my gosh. Well it
is great. So I just wantto encourage everybody to visit the mufon website.
It's mufon dot com because it's loadedwith tons of information such as how

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to join and and how to becomea member, and and all sorts of
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shirts and hats, and there's booksand publications that are really interesting. There's
some Leo Sprinkle newsletters or really Springfieldnewsletters pardon me, yeah, it's kind
of cool. And then there arethe Field Investigator training. They have a
new section that is specialty items,which is really kind of fun because they

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have fun stuff like this Roswell Garagesweatshirt. And they have the fun Cats
and Space T shirt, which gotthat one from my daughter. I got
that for my daughter. I loveit. It's fun those cat All of
us cat lovers love that one.They also have the not Ours that's the
Tic Tac T shirt that shows theimages of those famous Tic TACs. And

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there's a cool move On TV shirtthat has this neat like half alien phase.
It's kind of spooky but really cool. But all of that can be
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what's up? What's up? Fuelup? Well, I want to know
what's up, Shane. What haveyou heard lately? Hey? Have you
guys heard? Arrow is making alittle more progress, you know, in
the last few weeks or so,And they actually got their website going and

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a lot of people four inches andlooking for that. And yeah, there's
the logo somewhere there. And itis called the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office,
and it oversees the Pentagon's investigations intounidentified anomalous phenomena. I think we're

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all familiar with that. And thatwebsite includes, you know, general information
about ARROW, its mission, itsactivities related to the collection of information about
UAP, And of course when youlook at the logo, we always look
for interesting clues. And I knowwe've had Jean Ramirez uh the speaker who

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is retired from the CIA, andhe did a presentation about all the mission
patches that you know the military hasand the meaning behind him. It'll blow
your mind. It's freaky there.There is stuff to it, but any
rate with arrow. We see therethe Latin logo and statement around there,

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which translates into at the top therethe universe is changing, and then on
the bottom our life is what ourthoughts make it. So I think that's
pretty interesting. Yeah, and andis that Ryan also the fact from John

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Ramirez's statements are extreme interested in consciousnessand I'm shocked to see it on here,
but you know, cool right,and then ran in the word arrow.
Yeah, I mean, and alot of what they're looking into our

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silver orbs, right lights balls oflight white or silver orbs. I think
that's kind of interesting that they putthat, if that's what it means in
the oh there of arrow, Soit's kind of cool. But anyways,
you know, uh, the thedirector of EROS name is Sean Kirkpatrick,

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and he made some statements lately,some controversial, you know, some pretty
straightforward by what he said. Hereis a team of experts is leading the
US government's efforts to address unidentified anomalousphenomena using rigorous scientific framework and a data
driven approach. And the idea isto improve data collections andderdize recording requirements and

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mitigate the potential threats to safety andsecurity posed by uIP and you know,
all those things sound pretty good tous as UFOE investigators and Mouffon. You
know, those are the principles thatwe apply in our investigations. And on
the website they talk about their missionand their vision and and you know,

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those are all pretty typical things withany kind of you know, organization,
especially the government organist zation. Butthought it was interesting that the US Deputy
Secretary of Defense, Kathleens it's kindof taken a more active role in this
process over the last few weeks ormonths at least since the hearings are in

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July twenty six, because all ofthe sort of deadlines that they've had,
they've missed right, gone a littlebit late. And I get that,
you know, I wor to getan organization, and you know those those
schedules when the boss comes in andkind of starts poking around, you know
that you know that it's time tomake sure these headlines are met. And

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I think that's kind of what we'restaying there. But uh, you know,
one of the things that she emphasizesand I think is good so the
mission isn't lost, is that,you know, whatever the UAPs are they
want to know and as well aswhy how they exhibit behaviors and are not
really understood by our sensors are observedand all of that, you know,

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to make sure it isn't a threat, right, And I've always you know,
I held the view that at aminimum, and this is a flight
safety threat, right, not justfor the military, but for commercial as
well, And it seems like ano brainer that they need to be looking
at that. So so we're lookingat some progress. The website site isn't

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fully functional. Part of the processwill be that members of the government and
military and those organizations can report cremationthrough the web and that's probably soon to
come in the next few weeks.And then ultimately they're talking about the general

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public being able to submit reports,which I think is kind of interesting.
And again being a move On memberand looking at our database and the number
of cases that we get that,you know, I hope they're prepared for
the us that they're gonna get andpeople you know, are gonna you know,

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take them up on their word anddo it. So I think that's
gonna be pretty interesting over the nextfew months to see what that is.
So all in all, I followit through. I appreciate that it exists.
There are definitely some things that Iyou know, I'm afraid of it
being another blue book and as weall are, right seventy five years of

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history of government denial and so forth. But this is absolutely a step in
the right direction and the right kindof pressure is being applied by the public,
by scientists and the military members themselves. So all in all, I
think it's on a good trajectory.Although I have to have that feeling.
I don't want the rug yanked outfrom under me. I don't feel like

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could happen at any time. I'mgonna be positive and graduate them for doing
at least, you know this much. It's more than we had, right,
So that's it. That's only Iam so Shane. I was poking
around the Arrow website today and Iappreciate how visual their charts are. I
think I tear out, Yeah,here we go. So they have trends,

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they have pie charts and graphs andmaps and and tables, and I'm
all about that. I'm a veryvisual person, so and this is just
a little glimpse of what's on there, and they really break it down.
So I'm loving that. I reallylike that, and I'm hoping maybe perhaps
move On can follow suit with thatand take some of their database and make

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it visual and graphic like that,so you can look at some of these
these uh, you know, statisticsout of glance on a pipe chart,
having to dig through you know,thousands of reports. But no, I
appreciate how visual totally agree are helpful, right right, No, that's that's
awesome, Shane. Thank you forthat insight and thank you for sharing that

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the website's fact. So yeah,and hopefully you know, I'm can adopt
that, right, Yeah, we'llbe awesome. I'm just wondering. They're
getting all these cases, but they'renot necessarily going to investigate all of them,
right, I mean, they're goingto be a depository of them,
but not necessarily an investigation like Moufondoes. Okay, rights on the civilian

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side. Yeah, So, speakingof Moufon, we have case of the
week. This is a short onethis week, short little video, so
let's just jump into that. Itis case one two nine eight sixty seven.
It's a Category two case. Itoccurred March seventeenth, twenty twenty three,
at one in the morning. Thewitness was interviewed by phone for about

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twenty minutes. The witness and hiswife were totally shocked by seeing the object.
He seems very sincere, incredible andso basically, the witness and his
wife saw a low altitude object coveringover their home in the early morning hours
of March twenty, mark seventeenth,like I said, in Southampton, Pennsylvania.

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The object appeared to be solid withtwo tail lights. The tail lights
flashed three times. After the thirdflash, the object flew away at an
incredible speed. The FI ruled outball lightning. The conditions that morning,
we're not all we're not favorable forlightning of any kind. And they said
we did not find any evidence oftampering or hoax of the video. The

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witness stated that the object appeared tobe a single solid object with two flashing
tail lights. The cause will bethe case will be closed as an unknown
u AB. And it's just ashort little video. But Teriff, you
can run that video. Great,do you want to see that again.

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Let's see that again. Let's dothat. Let's see that one again.
Ye wow, that was intriguing tosay the least. It was cool.

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Crazy, that's like number one engagering. Yeah, if we could prove
that to be authentic, which accordingto our our field investigator, was a
credible witness. Didn't look like anytampering of that video. And so there
you have it. Case of theweek. Yeah, and tera do you
have a Mars case to share?Oh my gosh, I do. We

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have such cool cases in the archives, all of mufons archives and so the
Marph Mar's Archives of historic Cases containfiles dating from two thousand and prior and
most of these were investigated without theuse of a computer, internet or cell
phone. And it's just incredible theamount of work that goes into investigating a

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case and then hand typing the detailsin the final report for submission. And
not to mention, but I willthe witnesses that had the means and ability
to come forward back then. Sofor instance, today's you know, today's
case comes to us from Aurora,Maine, and it was December fourteenth,

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nineteen seventy eight, and this witnesssaw something incredible and was so affected by
it he had to tell someone.And here's an example of what he went
through just to make the report.He first told his wife, who urged
him to call the police. Thepolice referred him to the Charleston Air Force
Base. The air Force base saidthey did not investigate UFOs anymore, huh,

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and the sergeant referred him to thetelephone operator. The telephone operator was
no help and inspiration, the witnesscalled the Banger Daily News. The person
on duty told him to call thebanger An International Airport. The airport referred
him to a random gentleman who happenedto personally know the field investigator. So

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we sure hope it's easier to reportsightings now. And it's amazing that this
story even got documented. You know, he just was persistent in trying to
talk about it. So the witnesswas a veteran a US Marine in his
early thirties, and he explained thatduring the particular day he was developing these
really uncomfortable feelings, although everything wasin his routine was normal, but that

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evening, his daughter was sleeping andhe was extremely restless and decided to go
out for a drive at about onein the morning. There's that one o'clock
hour again, So this is somethingthat he had never done before, and
he had never left his young daughteralone, and so he was riding along
for about thirty five minutes when hesaid, all of a sudden, his
vehicle, his car motor stopped andhe coasted along the road to a stop.

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So he turned off his radio andwith his light still on, he
tried to start his vehicle, buthe was unsuccessful. And it was then
that he heard this very loud,crackling noise. It was almost a tapping
sound that he was unable to describe, but he compared it to like Spanish
castaneta, you know, click,click, click, the steady clicking.
So yep, that's right. Sohe was going like this, turned his

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head right and towards the noise,and he saw this UFO hovering in a
nearby field, and he said itwas close enough he could throw a rock
at it and hit it. Wow. Yeah. So he described it as
an elongated rectangle with the square frontfacing him so he could see the entire

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object. He could not see theentire object, but indicated it was large,
easily could fit forty cars in it. He described the object as possibly
having some large pipes or tubes onaside. And this is where he saw
it. He saw, okay,let me start. He saw two.

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He was two large circles at thebottom, and while he was looking at
that, the front facing square hadsome very pale green lights and then it
changed to a reddish pink and startedgoing back and forth. And so as
he was looking at these circles onthe bottom, he noticed the lights were
changing colors and blinking faster and faster. And then it reminds me of Peti's

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story. He heard a voice say, do not be afraid, we will
not harm you, and the lightsblinked faster and faster, and he then
heard a voice they do not beafraid, we will not harm you.
We are from the seventeenth Star.And then as quickly as that happened,
he said, the lights slowed downand he heard we will return. So

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the objectans seemed to rise at anangle, and that crackling noise came back
and it was gone. And hesaid he was able to start his engine
again right at that time, butit seemed like it kind of jumped and
kicked like it was already started.And he returned home, and he said

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that event, from the time theengine stopped to where he started, it
was about five minutes. So herewe see an example snapshot of the interview,
and notice how the heading states theinterview and interrogation. Just so you
know, moufund does not interrogate thewitnesses. You know, it's kind of

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funny, but we do use theinterviews and conversations with the reporting parties and
our investigation. Some reporting parties don'twant to talk to anyone, and so
if that's the case, the investigatorsmake their own investigation and use the witness
story as it was submitted to completetheir report. It's always helpful to be

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able to talk to someone. Sothis witness said he was scared, especially
at the start in the end ofthe event, but he said to while
the lights were flashing, he feltlike he was in a daze and he
didn't move and his body didn't haveany feeling other than a needle like tingling
throughout, So similar to like whenyour footfalls asleep. So yes, exactly

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so. Upon questioning, the witnesscouldn't be exactly sure of the time he
left the house and the time hereturned. However, he believed that he
may have experienced it missing time.And here's an excellent example of where a
field investigator did them at and calculatedthem miles per hour with the time left
to establish a missing time chart apossible missing time. So the witness thought

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he had about thirty to forty fiveminutes of missing time. It could have
been anywhere from thirty five to seventyminutes based on this chart. Wow,
it's very interesting that they do it. So this shows all field investigators must
keep an activity log as well.And this case shows how the FI contacted
the police, the witnesses FAA WeatherServices. Here we have a really cool

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report that shows the chronology of eventsfrom when the car engine failed to when
it operated normally again. And yousee the crackling and the pulsating and the
message and voice, and we alsohe did a really thorough job. You
also see a table on the seventeenthStar, which is really kind of cool.
You see a lot of star chartsin these files and these historic cases.

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So interestingly, their investigation revealed remarkablecoincidence that there were numerous reports of
a sonic boom in the area earlythat morning around the same time of the
event, and a nearby Air Forcebased spokesman reported that about forty four am
that morning, the sound barrier wasbroken by one or more of a number

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of F one oh six interceptor aircraftthat was participating in a defense exer spies.
You know this that's suspicious. Yes, it was over the exact area
where the UFN counter what ufhone counterwas in progress at the same time.
So were the UFOs there because ofthe training exercise or were the jets there

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because of the UFO or did theyjust decide to meet and have you know
of early breakfasts. Were not surethat's it, but you know, events
like these can be life changing.And the witness in this case had many
questions for the FI, like whathappens, what do I do with this?
What am I? I'm looking foranswers and could this happen again?

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And he also said it's a hellof a thing to try to live with,
you know, it doesn't believe you. It's in your head every single
day. So in conclusion, theFI ruled out man made or natural phenomena
and stated that it could only beclassified as a hallucination, a hoax,

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or a bona fide UFO experience.So kind of interesting, but I believe
it's a possible CE two because ofthe effects that it had on his personal
body in the cars and stuff.So Katie and Shane what do you think
of that? I just have tosay that's my favorite decade. Anybody who

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knows me knows that I'm all aboutthe seventies. You know, they're just
awesome cases. I mean, wehave the effects on the vehicles and that
those are so common in the perhapsin the early seventies even late sixties,
but really interesting case. And Ido have to my comment on that case
is going through the Mars and beinga part of that program. You're right,

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these investigators back in the day precomputers. I think the computers have
ruined us a little bit of Marineba LAA because back then, boy,
you did the work. You hadthese reports, and you did the graphs
and you did the math. AndI love those historic cases for that reasons
because they were really thoroughly investigative,most of them were. They really drove

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me to be a better investigator.Yeah, you know how thorough they were
for sure. What do you think, Shane, Yeah, I love it.
That's a great case. And Ithink the professionalism of the investigator and
even the astute nature of the witnesswas really solid there. And I always

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love that element of a car stalling, because it's not that cars don't stall,
but when it stalls and the effectsthat it has on electronics, which
continues to this day. So Ialways find out a fascinating and very credible
piece of evidence. Cool cool,Yeah, for sure. Well it's funny,

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Katie. Who do we have withour guest today. I know,
I'm so excited to bring him onbecause I've never met him in person.
I've seen his videos, I've heardso much about him, and like I
said, he's got this worldwide,this hot book out there right now.
So let me read his bio andwe'll get him on. So Ismail is

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an awakened star seed with memories ofan ancient galactic war that took place in
our galaxy, and has been gettingdownloads about galactic and cosmic intel for many
years now. He has the authorof Our Cosmic Origin, a book that
is now available on Amazon, whichtook him ten years to write. I
also believe it is now on audiobookas well. I'll ask him to be

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sure about that, but I thinkso. In this book, he proposes
the idea that Mankind's origin was cosmicand galactic, revealing a higher cosmology involving
the existence of endless worlds and otheruniverses. We're gonna have to ask him
about the multiverse that he believes himselfto be one of many, many cosmic

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ambassadors that have incarnated at this timeto help restore the Earth and it's rightful
place in the galactic and cosmic community. And we've all heard you know that
Galactic Federation. So please welcome tothe show. Is Meil Prez. Thank
you as Mel for being here.It's an honor to have you on our
show. Hi. Everyone, howare you guys doing? Welcome? Welcome,

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Thank you for having me here.Yeah, did you have a wonderful
Labor day? Anything special? Hada chance to just do me and become
a hermit for a whole day,no social engagement, being meditation, nature
and my quietness. That's it.Ah, you know what, nobody gets

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enough of that. I was justsaying, I'm ready for a couple of
days of that as well. Sothose are cherished moments for sure. I
would really like, first of all, I don't know where you're located in
the world. If I think you'rein the United States, but I don't
know that for sure. And Ijust kind of wanted to go back to
how all this unfolded for you.How old were you? What happened to

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kind of awaken you to this paththat you're on now? Well, it
all started as a kid. Eversince I was three years old, four
years old, I just remember beingslightly, may I say, just by
far way different than my other siblingsand my cousins and my whole family.
I felt like I didn't belong herefrom day one, you know, very

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the reality was very blurry to me, like almost as if I was trying
to get acclimated to this new density. I couldn't figure it out. I
noticed that my body was a lotmore denser. I kept observing my hands.
I guess my aunt's thought I wasa weird kid. I always asked
word questions. But the whole pointis, you know, I was telepathic
with animals. I was able toread communicate with my pets. I was

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able to communicate with the trees outsidethe flower or as the plants, and
I thought that it was a normfor everyone else, and to know,
everybody thought I was crazy, orat least my siblings. How many siblings
did you have as Melk, Ihad two younger siblings and cousins that were
like fairly like my age. Orjust a year or two, you know,
slightly younger or older, and theyall used to pick on me and

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tell me, you know, atleast say all the words, the words
stuck at the trees again. Butit's okay. You know, there's a
saying that says there's a black sheepin every family, right but right.
So it all started as a kid. You know, I felt very connected
to the unified field, as ifmy mind was part of this energy field
that existed not only within me butall around me, and it was connecting

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everything else. So it was veryeasy for me to feel the oneness of
everything in existence, to the pointwhere at one point I even started you
could say, I started exploring telekinesis, and it was actually working great.
I was able as a kid,as a four year as old. As
a four year old, I wasable to shift my consciousness to the you

(35:08):
know, higher states, higher frequencies, gamma, gamma frequency, brain weight,
which is pretty much well all themagic stuff happens. So as a
kid, I was able to naturallyjust shift my consciousness, which was different
because nobody else could do that.But unfortunately, growing up in a very
religious, conservative Catholic upbringing, itwasn't really a good thing. When my

(35:32):
grandmother walked in and you know ifshe thought I was possessed by a demon
and called the local priest and theysay, get out of their demon.
But what to do, Yeah,that's what they do with it. Don't
understand, you know, it's somy I was forced to shut down.
I was forced I had no otheroption, you know. I was told

(35:53):
I needed to not entertain this stuffbecause it was the devil. So I
shut down for many years, andit wasn't until maybe about the age of
fifteen sixteen where I decided to rebel. I decided to rebel after so many
years of suppressing my inner knowing ofthings, you know, my inner abilities,
and so I started researching things formyself. I well, the first,

(36:15):
first and foremost, I disagreed witheverything that I was taught in school.
I think it was all hogwash.From elementary school to high school.
I was always questioning everything I booked, my teachers, and even in college
my professors called me a pest.But the whole point is I always disagreed
with everything because I knew that itwas there was a bigger, you know,
bigger truth. They suppressed truth toeverything, and so I started researching

(36:39):
a lot at an early age,you know, getting into like philosophy,
political science, metaphysics. I startedreading my my first book in Esoteric Knowledge
at the age of sixteen and ahalf, which was pretty sixteen year old
to learn about mysticism at that age, I think, you know, for
me, it was I think dueto the fact that I've always been connected

(37:01):
to this unified force and I hadthis inner knowing when I was a kid
that kind of that book kind ofit did something to me. It kind
of propelled me to like want tolearn more about this stuff. And then
that's when I realized that I hada block that I actually had blocked myself
from from fully understanding my multi dimensionality, you know, fully engaging in that.

(37:22):
And so I wasn't until I startedpracticing Krea Condalini yoga four years later
I got serious about my spirituality,and at the age of twenty that's when
I had my first where or Iguess I would say a big part of
my consciousness started reintegrating back into myconsciousness, my wake state, and that's

(37:43):
when I knew I was different.And at that point I started getting downstreams
like transmissions from my galactic family.I'm not knowing who they were at first,
but you know, they would Iwould always sense their presence. It
would always kind of communicate to methrough synchronicity and stuff men numbers of course,
eleven eleven four foot four world citiesthat they're like trying to transmit information.

(38:07):
And so I used to, youknow, just get these downloads,
and then they would guide me tocertain records, certain manuscripts, ancient manuscripts,
or sometimes I would end up ina place where some strange name would
come in and say, oh,I need you to uh these records were
mental get to you. You know, here you go. I'm like,
what is this this rate of okay? Fine, So just stuff like that,

(38:30):
riminicities. Like my whole life,I was led by something greater than
myself. And I wrote my firstbook at the age of twenty five,
revealing to sequence the world the battlebetween you know, lights and the dark,
and how they operate through secret societies, but really how it involves magic,
you know light white magic, whichis healing, healing magic, and

(38:52):
then just destructive magic right used tomanipulating control, and how at the highest
levels of the secret societies you hadactually wizards. You have real wizards.
You know, we watched movies likeYou're The Rings and seeing Gandalf fantasy,
but these people have really existed throughoutthe centuries and millennium all, you know,
if you want to respect to cantusas where the originally. But the

(39:14):
whole point is even this, thesewizards, I've come to discover the thing
themselves were also being used by otherworldly entities. And that's when I went
deep into the rabbit hole and realized, wait a minute, this proxy warrior
taking place between these two forces.It's just a small mimicking of a greater
war that's been going on in ouruniverse involving many galaxies, like a straight

(39:35):
out Star Wars type of you knowscenario. And then that's when I started
writing our Cosmic Origin. Wow wow, yeah, so that's yeah, Shane,
you're muted there you go. It'smay yeah, yeah, it's slow

(39:59):
the systems and slow tank. WhenI was just going to ask, just
for my benefit, and then anyof the listeners that don't know, how
how would you describe or explain whata scar seed is? Well, the
best way to describe it is isa celestial or a higher, a higher

(40:21):
dimensional soul, a soul that isolder than your average souls on Earth,
a soul that actually descend. Itchose to descend from higher levels of reality
where they had already completed the differentlevels of spiritual attainment and mastery and enlightenment,
and they just decided to come backto help the planet evolve into you

(40:42):
know, a higher frequency yourself.So basically, our our mission is manifold
first and foremost. We are ancientsouls that are incarnating human bodies. A
particular resonance or it actually raises thevibration of the entire planet, because you
know, energy is contagious, andbecause we come in will to such a

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high frequency. It is believed thatper you know, seven thousand Earth tarrants,
which are the young souls evolving fromthe bottom up, whereas we come
from the top down, it's sufficientefficient enough to actually change the entire vibration
of seven thousand people for one person. That's how powerful our frequency is when
we, you know, are inour you could say, in our zone.

(41:27):
So the second mission of a starseat is to also bring forth the
what's called the different divine templates backto the Earth, so that we could
establish a continuous ascension from the Earthbeyond just the fifth dimensional world, because
we're gonna going beyond fifth dimension.We're gonna go We're going back to where
we came from, which is allthe way from the top the twelfth dimension,

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which is the realms of Eternity.So that's where we originated. So
we also came with a template thatallows the Earth to reas send itself back
to her original state as the twelfthdimensional Earth version known as Ara Mattana,
So Aaron Mattana is Earth in thetwelve dimension. We could lead just so
just how like we have different versionsthat exist in the higher dimensions, so

(42:14):
does the planet. So that's whathappened. That's what stars these are.
We are old souls from the higherdimensions that volunteered to not only help the
planet reach you know, the fifthdimension in above, but also really save
the organic way of life because wehave the best amalgamation of all the divine
genetics from across the different universe's ones. So our avatars are actually the ultimate

(42:39):
you could say, an all naturalorganic weapon designed to once you know,
through the activation of Burman DNA,we're going to be so powerful enough that
we could pretty much do anything inthe future. So you know, there's
many multiples why a star seat isdown here, but the main reason is
to save the organic way of life. Many questions, I'm going to start

(43:00):
with this one. You mentioned synchronicitiesand signs and kind of a way of
knowing you're you're listening to. Youknow, people call them guides or their
their spirit guides, or their greatteachers or their religious spiritual leaders, whatever
you choose to believe or call them. You mentioned the numbers, the eleven

(43:22):
eleven You mentioned four four four.For me it was three three three.
Do these numbers have different meanings?And if so, can you kind of
touch on some of the more commonnumbers that people might see as they're awakening.
Well, definitely, eleven eleven eleveneleven is an indicator of drastic change
happening, like something huge shift coming. Four four four is more of a

(43:46):
an indicator saying that your spirit teamis always there on it, like just
giving you that reassurance that they arewatching over you. I'm not much of
a numerologist, but I believe thateach number, like three three three,
it also has its own significance.But I believe that each number that we

(44:06):
see, like on a repetitive basis, is definitely a way in which these
other dimensionals are communicating with us.So pay attention. Pay attention people if
you're waking up every night at acertain time, or seeing these on license
plates all the time, or yeah, just random places and it's beyond synchronicity
sometimes. One other quick question.You know, you mentioned the word avatar,

(44:31):
and that makes me think of videogames and you know, maybe that
we're living in a matrix kind ofwhat are your views on that? What's
your take on that? Well,okay, if you guys really want to
Okay, this is we're going tocompete into the grabbit hole. Let's go

(44:53):
exists within a higher simulation, whichis less denswer of course, within a
simulation, within a simulation, withina simulation. So we're in terms of
we we could start looking at youcould say so called realities or as as
dimension or dimensions rather as frequencies,different vibrating frequencies, that's all they are.

(45:15):
Basically, we are experiencing out ofthe entire light energy spectrum, we
are experiencing the lowest which is likethe lowest level or energy and matter is
almost frozen. That's called the thirddimension. So as we move up in
frequency, we actually go into higherdimensions where the matter is less dense.

(45:35):
So the more we ascend through thevibration light energy of frequency spectrum, the
lighter we become. Because we areall falling what is what we used to
be called light beings. You know, we never had worth this dense in
the higher dimension before we begin Sothrough a process of involution or descent,
we went from a state of eternity, because that's where we come from,
which is what they call base reality. By the way, everything else is

(45:58):
a simulation, and then we fellinto the eleventh dimension, and that's when
the simulation began. So the eleventhdimension is not base reality, you know,
but it's still a higher level ofreality than where we are currently adding
the third dimension, and it's stilla higher level level of reality than the
fifth dimension six, seven, eightor nine or ten. So every dimension
becomes a little bit you're you're moreconnected to the one unified force, to

(46:22):
the all which is the God Force. As you go higher and higher,
you're more one with that. Inother words, once you reach the twelve
you literally become one with the alliedunified energy field, which is the universal
left force. You become one witheverything, which very cool, right.
Well, your your book has alot of messages of hope like that.

(46:44):
You know, it's really interesting youas I was reading it, you also
you know you're talking about it.It's so exciting the times that we are
in, and there's so much toknow in what our future holds. But
you know you're what you're talking about. You discussed briefly about the ancient libraries
and that have been destroyed that containeda lot of this information that I believe

(47:08):
that maybe you're sharing with us andyou can clarify that. But do you
think that there may still be libraryor two out there still to be uncovered,
like maybe the Hall of Records underthe Sphinxes does exist or something.
And what are your thoughts about what'shappening now to our artifacts? Well,

(47:30):
most of them have been taken bythe by the Vatican, which is the
core of the Cabal, has beenfor the last seventeen hundred years. Luckily,
the Brotherhood of Light, the GoodForces have safeguarded a few very important
records and they've kept it within theiryou know, subterranean vaults. Whatever you
want to call it. But itis believed that the halls of record underneath

(47:53):
the Sphinx Niya hasn't yet been nobody'syet on Earth in other words, but
it's believed that it's only accessible throughthe right of frequency or the right energy
field. So it's it's going tobe unlocked by a certain type of frequency
of consciousness. Yeah, somebody hasto be in the right frequency to access

(48:16):
those records. So those records areactually interdimensional records because it's not just about
the third dimensional universe, but itgoes into the history of the fifteen dimensional
time matrix which I was describing,how everything is a simulation within a simulation
all the way to twelve dimension andbecomes eternal reality, which is the only
base reality. Wow, but it'sit's all going to be revealed very soon.

(48:40):
You know. We are definitely livingin the precedent of guys where they
call it the fullness of time,where everything has ever been suppressed for thousands
of years, the truth about ourorigin, the truth about our our inner
power. How powerful we truly are, you know, as multi dimensional beings
currently experiencing right in the spectrum oflight, the low frequency, but as

(49:00):
we bounce back up. It's goingto be amazing of a right, how
we're going to just be like theseamazing individuals, you know, with amazing
abilities. Then even AI is notgoing to compare it to some of the
divine powers that we're going to bemanifested. But so you can't even compare
it. Wow, I was thinkingtoo. You know, you had mentioned

(49:27):
that you know, you had awarenessof this in your childhood and and then
you know you you begin to research. Just have you reached out to others
and are you you know, apart of the community and that you share
information with I mean, I knowyou you obviously wrote wrote that wonderful book
and everything. Do you are youa part of the community. Guys communicate

(49:50):
and share ideas and I guess encourageand upbuild each other that kind of thing
I do. Actually I have Igo live on my YouTube platform every other
night, so a lot of thepeople that resonate with this information. What
we do is we create a communityof just like minded individuals where we could
pretty much speak our minds and youknow, talk about anything. We want

(50:15):
to talk about exiting the matrix seetheir multi dimensionality, you know, UFOs,
you know extraterrestials, the different typesof terrestials, you know. So
yeah, I do have a communitylike that where every other night I go
live and we just kind of weit's like a roundtable, you know,
I answer questions. I start offwith certain topics, of course, and

(50:37):
then from there I opened it upfor questions and answers. So it's kind
of it because even they communicate amongthemselves in the chat, which is awesome.
It gives them an opportunity to connectwith other people worldwide that are already
at the same frequency of consciousness.And wow, that's awesome. I know
you have your your website as well. I have a question for you and
I too. You know, backwhen lu Alazando came out and and said

(51:00):
we're going to have a fundamentally differentconversation a year from now, my mind
didn't go necessarily the UAPs and UFOs. It went to consciousness in the power
that I think the true suppression,the true suppression is our own individual powers
that each soul has. And you'respeaking about that very eloquently. But my

(51:23):
question to you is are there peopleout there, because the world's a mess
right now that given the powers thatwe ultimately can develop. Everybody has to
develop, just like a muscle.Can we trust everybody to use it in
a responsible way? I mean,I worry that there's there's souls out there

(51:44):
that might not be necessarily wanting touse whatever powers of the mind or manifestation
in such a positive way, andthat kind of makes me a little nervous.
What do you think about that?Well, there are two ways in
which this phenomena is going to unfold, right this next stage of human organic
human evolution without merging with technology,because that's totally different fields that they don't

(52:08):
want to get into, but it'sgoing to happen. I think that the
people that are going to the firstones to activate are going to be people
that area you could say, establishedwithin their heart. They are completely all
loving, all compassionate to every livingthing. They respect everyone that they practice
kindness, and they are really ina state of service to others mentality.

(52:31):
So I think those are the peoplethat are going to obviously be very responsible
enough to mature enough to be ableto use these abilities for good. However,
in the event that say, someof the star seeds that are down
here, because the star seeds arepretty much gonna be the ones that are
going to activate more so than theEarth territ because the star seeds are happen
genetically spliced with a lot of differentalien genetics that makes their body. By

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the way, but some of thestars seats arena are also going to be
able to be even more powerful thanother stars seats, where they're gonna have
multiple abilities. And so because thereare going to be different grades of upgrades,
and we can see that the oldestof souls, the most mature,
are going to have most of thepowers. And so as a result of

(53:15):
that, they're going to just makesure everyone's in check, okay, because
they're you know, they'll be ableto stop them really quick like that if
they wanted to, you know,and everyone's gonna be all right, cool.
Obviously, there's going to be somekind of an order and you know,
rules and principles we all have toabide by, the right I mean,
that makes sense. I mean,the way our world is set up

(53:38):
right now, it is just sonot ready for the unveiling of this.
I mean, it's going to bechaos for a while. I'd imagine we
only have a couple of minutes leftuntil our first break. But don't don't
you agree with that? I mean, it'll be a huge world adjustment.
And do you think this, youknow, are you looking at a five
year timeline, ten year twenty,I mean in our lifetime. What are

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you predicting as far as the awakeningkind of you know, as this unfolds?
All right, before I answer thatquestion. The alternative to this natural
organic, you know, transformation ofour species right into the next levels human
evolution. There's also the transhumanist path, which is the dark Side's way of
doing it, through the lazy wayof spiritually bypassing, not doing the work,

(54:21):
not you know, meditating, notconnecting with source, with nature on
a daily basis, because that's wherepowers are coming in more and more.
We're symbiotic relationship with our environment viaour own individual consciousness as we infuse it
with the consciousness of the elements,to plants, to stones and the planet
in general. Were ask a certainamount of people are actually going to take
the transhumanist path, and those arethe people that want billionaires. Yes,

(54:45):
so they're going to go a differentroute AI talking to AI exactly. And
that's why they're developing AI because theyknow that this is coming. They know
about the real prophecy, so wewant to compete with us, you know.
But to answer your question, yourquestion was the time frame when this,
well, you know, I wouldsay I would, I would really,

(55:08):
I really feel like it's going tohappen within a decide, that's all.
I'm gonna say. Wow. That'swow. All right, I ask
you that. And I because youknow, there's kind of these whisperings going
on within the community of this.I'm hearing four years, you know,
four year timeline, so I'm definitelyhearing for sure within a decade. That's

(55:29):
something big. And I keep goingto like what what should we be prepared
for? But and you know,the consensus mostly is what you just spoke
about. So that's really interesting.I think before we go to break,
how along to my clock talk aboutsupernatural? My my computer clock is messed
up, my show clock. SoI'm relying on you guys to I'm going
blindly here in time. But youdo have a website. I think I

(55:52):
took a screenshot of that. I'mgetting there yet, hold on, hold
on, oh, here we gothis one here it is the Cosmic Arts.
Yeah, that is your website.So I encourage people and the U
R l for that is I'm workingthere. I'm not sure. Let's see

(56:13):
here. Is that Our Cosmic Originthat is my other website. You could
put them both. One of themwill just take you to like the Cosmic
Arts is for my classes, andyou could order the audio version of my
book, my online course as thatis cool. Our Cosmic Origin that's where
you could order the latest version,which is the purple book of Our Cosmic

(56:35):
Origin, the newest edition which hasan added chapter. And then also you
have access to all my social mediaplatforms, my YouTube channel and so on
and so excellent. All right,I think we are right up against the
break and when we come back,we're going to do my new segment and
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r e dB dot com. Allright, we are back. So my

(01:00:40):
new segment, Evening on Earth withan Extraterrestrial so asmail, this is something
we came up with. So Ihave five questions I'm going to ask you.
The first one is, so anextraterrestrial comes down, perhaps from the
play eighties. It could be anywhoever you whoever decides to come down on
whatever evening, where on Earth wouldyou like to meet the extra threshold anywhere

(01:01:02):
on the planet. I would probablywant to meet well, due to the
fact that there's a huge government coverup regarding their presence and you know,
the negotiations that have been going onget behind the scenes. I would probably
want to meet him somewhere, perhapsat the top amount Shasta or in Sedona
and the middle of nowhere in orderto not you know, create some sort

(01:01:28):
of like alarming type of attention.Some are very private, that's a good
answer. Mount Shasta, boy,that is one high strange this area,
same with it, of course,Sodona. Of course, the thing they
probably just want to meet me becausethere's something very important they want to share
with me. And of course it'sbest to be in a place where you
don't have government spying on you,that's right. But being that remote,

(01:01:50):
you're gonna have to picnic basket thefood in So what food would you like
this sextra terrestrial to taste? Anydish? Any dish? I would have
to say Indian food, some ofthat curry, yes, all right,
curry interesting, all right? Andnow you're gonna put on the background music
a song. What song would youplay for the extra terrestrial? I would

(01:02:13):
probably play some of that fast beattrans dance music, but you know the
that goes into like big it reachesa crescento and then it goes like techno,
but no, it's not. It'sdifferent than techno. I'd probably play
something like that for it. Seewhat it what it does? All right,
vibe going on. You've got thiswhole vibe going on. Now you're
gonna he's gonna say, hey,I would really like to watch a flick

(01:02:37):
tonight. What movie would you recommendto our little extra terrestrial friend each phone
home? Oh? Et, ofcourse, of course that's a good one.
And the final question, then,the most important one. If you
can ask one question, what wouldit be? I would ask him what
density or dimension are you from?And then depending on what his answer is,

(01:02:59):
then I'll know exactly piece from atype one, Type two or type
three galactic civilization. Okay, that'sa great lead into my next question.
Can you talk to us about youknow, type one, Type two and
the different density dimensions. Well,there's actually type five because you know,
we are dealing with a multi multipleuniverse reality. But a Type one to

(01:03:20):
a Type three are galactics. Theyonly exist within the perceived area of the
universe, which is really the fourpercent. Right when they peer into the
sky, they only see the galaxies. Everything else is dark matter. They
call it dark energy. So whenthey appear into the skies, they're only
looking at the four percent. Sowithin that four percent we have type one
and type two and type three andnow other differences. Is Type one is

(01:03:43):
kind of like a beginning space agecivilization that has just recently discovered free energy
technology, proportion systems, anti gravity, the controlling of magnetics, the gravitational
field. They figured out how tocontrol their own weather, which is something
that you know they do from behindthe scenes, and they're able to a
dice and sphere tap into the planetaryfield, which is a toroial field of

(01:04:06):
the planet, so they could harnessenergy beyond you know what they are currently
using, which is plant combustion andcoil. I think that's where they get
their energy from. But they wouldactually now be harnessing planetary power. So
that's what a type of point is. They harness planetary power. So now

(01:04:26):
they're able to soar off into spaceto colonize and nearest solar systems and still
not fully yet mastering interdimensional physics,but on their way, but thousands of
years from for of their I guessevolution. There's a ghost in the machine.

(01:04:58):
Maybe they don't want me to describeI think. Okay, I don't
know that. Apologize. Yeah,that's never that's never happened, So talk
about mystical okay. Sorry. Soa type two is called stellar because they
are able to tap into stellar power, which is their son uh and then
an intermediate or an advanced form ofa stellaries multiple stars. Yeah, the

(01:05:23):
hardest, the power of many stars. Now they're able to manipulate wormhole stargates
and zoom from one point of thegalaxy to the next without traveling in space,
just going from you know, onepoint to the next through a stargate.
So that's called a type two,a stellar. And now they have
access to like a whole galaxy.So that's where we're at as far as
like our secret space programs are concerned. We're no longer type one within the

(01:05:43):
private secture. We've already jumped intoa type two. By the way,
most of us don't know that thoughcorrect left in the dark, and a
type three is galactic. It's it'sabout one hundred thousand years ahead of a
Type zero, which is what weare still. Oh, I mean,
technically we're zero point nine. We'reabout to transition into the space age.
But it's about a few thousands andthousands ahead of ahead of a Type one,

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and then only a few thousand yearsahead of a Type two. So
a galactic is a civilization that isyou could say is intergalactic because then now
they harness the power of an entiregalaxy, which is equivalent to billions of
stars. So when you tap intothat much energy, you could actually manipulate
time and space as we know itand transfer your entire civilization to a younger

(01:06:31):
universe in the event that that universegrows old into case. So that's how
advanced they are there, so they'reconsidered immortal at that point. They just
continue. Yeah, and we couldidentify them as the big bulge at the
center of all galaxies. When youguys look at galaxies, you know how
they all have that big bulge oflight at the center. Well that's where
all the Type three exists because they'reall using galactic central galactic power, the

(01:06:57):
galactic core. So they're harnessing thatwhat seems to be like a black hole
but it's really just luminous light thatis spinning the galaxy. That is,
you know, giving it is energy, it's universal life supply that in turn
sustains the billions of slower systems andall the life forms and galaxies. So
a type three is able to administratethose that universal life forms. They were

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able to control that, so inthat regard they control the entire fate of
a galaxy. So lucky. Thebenevolent eties that are known as the Sarians
High Council is serious, and ofcourse those that come from Sagittarius and the
system of the Vega system, theyare there at the center of harnessing the
power, so they could eventually winthe war against the Reptilians and you know

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the dark ones, which is awesome. And then and then the Type four
is is more of now that goesinto what they call the so called dark
dark energy and dark matter, themissing universe, so that is reality that
vibrates beyond the galaxies. They harnessthe entire power of an entire universe,
which is billions of plans. That'scalled the Type four. So they're all

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they're concerned with is just the creationof universes. They don't even they don't
even engage in our petty galactic wars. They just oversee things. So yeah,
so even the galactic wars are likea like a soap operative. A
civilization of a type four. Theyjust watch, They just see how things
are. Sometimes they do intervene,though, like you know, if something

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goes wrong, they have to intervenein order to tweak the timeline timeline in
order to have that timeline in apositive trajectory, then they will intervene.
But other than that, like thetype four just watches and all they do
is create universes. So civilization ofthat level, I mean, these guys
are like God's God assistant. Andthere is a type of life which is

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which is related to the always existingrealms of the Mother Central Universe. So
believe it or not, guys,there is a central Universe, a mother
Verse, in which all the universeare coming from, including and so that's
what a Type five is is theyare the intelligences that inhabit, inhabit to
the realms of the Mother Central spheres. And now they all they do is

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they're just all they do is justjust watch. They just watch, you
know, That's all they do.Are they the ones that kind of then
ultimately decide if we're ready to joinback into our galactic federation family. I
mean it all kind of judges thatis, normally they don't really how can
I say they don't really intervene.The ones that are in that intervene are

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the Type four, the ones thatare creating in the verses and system form
of building systems and all that stuff. But the ones that are Type five,
they're all they're already in a stateof pure trinity and bliss. Like
they don't even use physical bodies.They're just sure light intelligences. You can't
even I mean, they could manifestany any form they want, they could

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descend into any dimension they want,you know, but they don't really intervene
with what goes on. Yeah,they're just kind of like silence observers.
So yeah, interesting. Yeah,so a type five silvered cosmics, I
know, you know cosmic you know, with the the the various alien species

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that you know are thought to comehere. I've read as many as like
seventy two different ones. You know, what do you think about that?
And what you know? I guesswhat I really want to know is what
do you feel UFOs are and whatis the source behind those some ones that

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we typically see photograph, video,engaging the military or you know, producing
civilian experiences. What do you attributethat too. It could be a multi
hole different Yeah, it's it couldbe a multiple multiple different scenarios and full

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thing. We do have the technology. I would have to say over sixty
percent of the sightings are our own, like the tic TACs, like you
know, the other craft that theycommonly you know, witness a near military
basis, Like all that stuff isis because why do you think they're always
around military basis? Because they're tryingout new prototypes. They're constantly yeah,

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advancing their prototypes. So we've we'vehad the Texans to fifties guys, and
it all started with the Nazis ofcourse. But so over sixty percent of
the sightings are our own. Theother forty percent are really just our galactic
family of light. Those are theones that are considered positive races that exist
in higher dimensions like five and above. The ones that exist in dimensions ten

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to eleven and twelve, they actuallyhave to through the luring of frequency,
they have to materialize a physical form. Actually, even the ones that fifth
dimensions sometimes, so when we dosee them, all they do is they
just decelerates their mibrational free could seeof their craft and that's how we're able
to stee them. They have theability to do. So I'm curious,

(01:12:08):
thank you. Yeah, it's it'sa great question, Shane, because you're
but you're talking about all these thingsthat we see, but most of the
creatures we see are human, noidor human like, And maybe you can
talk about how, you know,like you were talking the core of all
the universes, we're all kind ofdescendant and so there's this human like species

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throughout all of the universes or metaverses, and like Shane said, I've heard
something like seventy to eighty some typeof things. And kind of on a
side note of that, do youthink there's any living on the Moon and
anybody's occupying that well, not thesurface of the Moon, but even though
that it is currently undergoing terraforming sothat it could sustain our type of life,

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but in the inner in the innerMars's right, we're referring to the
Moon here, right, the Moon, But if you want to talk about
Mars, that's cool too, becauseI know you said there was a gate
there in Mars at one time.Right, the Moon. The Moon is
a natural it's not a natural planettoid, it's an artificial construct that was
created by advanced racist the good guysat first, but then later it was

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hijacked by the Darts the dark guysin order teams that as a controlling satellite
and spiked satellite. So inside theMoon there has always been extraterrestrial races that
have been just sitting there, monitoringus from inside the Moon. Yeah there,
Yeah, so they just live thereand they get along with each other

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then, well not necessarily because wehad two opposing groups recently, how can
I say it? Okay, Sofor the last few thousand years, the
Moon has used by the negative onesin order to kind of control us,
keep us in this reincarnational loop.It's something to do with Black Cube and
the Rings of Saturn that we're receivinginformation from Marahan to keep the people of

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the Earth locked into this limited thirddimensional vibration without going beyond it. Is
that the soul recycle or that theyspeak of that's on the far side of
the Moon, that box and theseboxes that around that recycles our souls just
watched something about that. Yeah,it's interesting that you would bring that up
on the show. Just literally twodays ago, I was watching that.

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So that was done by the darkForces. But because twenty eighteen there's been
a huge changeover in power in ourSolar System where the Galactics, in collaboration
with the Earth Alliance members of thepositive programs like Solar Ward and Space Force,
they have been actually conducting some massiveinterplanetary operations where they've been eliminating all

(01:14:47):
the negative ets from these bases thatare around our Moon, around our Solar
System, and then of course insideSo for the last few years, all
that stuff has been neutralized. Sothe black the Black Cube is no longer
operative. In other words, doesthat mean we're going to stop reincarnating back
and back? And what happens sincewe're not going to reincarnate back here on

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Earth, do we reincarnate elsewhere?What happens to our souls? Then,
well, we just descend into ourfifth dimensional avatar body. Yeah, so
we have an avatar in every dimensionby the way, and all the way
to the twelve. Beyond the twelveis just true light. But at the
level of twelve dimension is when weare both eternal and physical at the same
time. So we have an avataron every dimension, by the way,

(01:15:34):
So all we do is just ourconsciousness just recycles back to an avatar that
is less dense and with more abilities. And so that's yeah, that's something
we all have to look forward to, because if we're less dense, we
could perhaps fly, and you know, we'll be I'm assuming, and you
correct me if I'm wrong, butjust more loving and carrying and connected with

(01:15:56):
everybody else. And maybe you cankind of speak about you know, Tara
mentioned the different types of et races, and we know about the common ones,
the Reptilians, the DraCos, thePalladian, you know, the tall
whites and that, you know,and I struggle sometimes with putting them all
in you know, boxes of goodversus evil or you know, can you

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speak about that, I mean theevolution of this galactic war. I mean
you mentioned Lyra and is that aplace of origin? And can you walk
us through that kind of briefly?So this war between good and evil,
which is involving many other dimensions,has you know, it's it's a ward

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that's start in the eleventh dimension,even before it reached the galaxy. But
the races that are involved are theyfall under two categories. The positive races
are in service to others. Theyare part of the and they're they're part
of the mental philosophy of like everythingin the universe is stake and everything is
connected, therefore we have to livein harmony with it. So they're all

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about that. And then the negativeones, which is what we call the
fallen ones, are the ones thatare against that. Instead, they're all
about service to self. They're allabout manipulation. The end justifies the means
type of mentality, which is traconi. So we could say that all extraterrestrials

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fall under those two categories. Youknow. That's what you know infused the
galactic wars is that those that decidedto abide by the principles of the law
of one consciousness, unique consciousness,by the insistrate or defending themselves in the
universe from those that wanted to,you know, push their ideology of control,

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power, domination and totalitarianism and enslavementand all that stuff. So that's
what fused the galactic wars, youknow, it's really it was really a
response from the positive races against thenegative races who are out to the entire
universe at one point five hundred andsixty million years ago to be exact Earth.
Why did they choose Earth to makethis so tumultuous and difficult. I

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feel like I'm sure a lot ofus do. It's like constant struggles all
the time. Why our planet,Well, for multiple reasons, our planet
happens to be the most important planetin the entire multiverse, not just our
universe. It is part of anexperiment that has been conducted at the highest
levels of reality by all the forcesof good being carried forward, carrying carried

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forth through the forces of good throughoutthe lower dimensions, including the third which
are the Earth Allies. It's becauseof the fact that Earth is a living
cosmic library, and that's the reasonwhy you know, Earth is the final
battleground. Because what they're really afterwardsof the data the genetic template, our

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genetic encodings. You know, there'scertain like a matematical formula, our genes
are encoded with certain sequences, andso they're after those, you know,
those types of codings so that theycould access realms, the realms of eternity.
So it turns out that because weare a very diverse race, and
we can carry a mixture of allthe races in our multiverse in one spot.

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We have as a result of that, we are also considered the most
where we carry the greatest potential inother words, and so there's many and
that explains why we are coveted asa race, by the way, our
why our genetics is very valuable toevery other race out there, because we
are the potpourri of all the differentcelestial races put into one spot. And

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so you know, that's that's anotherreason why the last battle takes place here
because you know, what happens hereis going to end the war everywhere else.
In other words, so wow,no no pressure on us. Huh.
But are there other physical worlds planetsin our three dimensional universe that has

(01:20:09):
you know, biological entities living uponthem or is this you know, you
know, entirely dimensional and non physicalwell physicality, there's different grades of matter.
It exists on every dimension all theway to the eleventh and twelve month.

(01:20:29):
So that's why extraterrestrial civilizations are asphysical you and me, despite if
they're from higher dimensions, because thedifference between their their type of matter in
our matter is that third matter ismore subtle, it's more it's less dense
than our matter, but it's stillphysical. If we were to raise our
frequencies to their particular libration, wewould cease to exist in the third dimension

(01:20:49):
and reappear in that dimension. Allright, So everything, you know,
it's it's like kind of like thewave particle double slit experiments. Everything's just
really just in a state of oceanan ocean oceanetic energy format, and it's
sort of consciousness that we collapse thingson every different level of reality, So
everything is held like that. Everydimension is health as a you could say,

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similar to the way the third dimension. It's just different type of matter.
So, yeah, they're all physical. All the different ets out there
are physical. The only time wherethey refrain from being physical is when they
reach the quoth dimension and then theyevolve into non physical, pure light body
state of being cool. And yeah, so what do you think of the

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hybrid programs? The abductions that arestill you know from our reports and the
art are still being reported. Actuallyit's on the rise, And so what
do you think about these hybrid programs? Are they still continuing to this day?
Are you getting information about that,and if so, why what is
the endgame with that? Well,because of the original program that has been

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going on for billions of years,which is to create a super race where
they combine the best celestial genetics ofdifferent types of civilizations from across the multiverse
twe into one. You could saythat the negatives or the fallen ones are
also trying to compete with the positiveprogram, and so that's why they're kind
of conducting their own programs, butthat are not in alignment with a divine

(01:22:24):
program. And what I mean bythat is that they're inserting insects, genetics
from insectoids, cybernetic artificial intelligence typesof creating you know, half humans or
half organics half inorganics. And sothat's where their program goes wrong, is
that they're incorporating reptilian genetics, youknow, insectilian genetics, things that are

(01:22:44):
not part of the original Angelic blueprint. In other words, I'm wondering,
is Mail there. You talk inyour book about the millions and millions of
possible you know, plants or andhave universe. It's just there's so many
galaxy and so many planets. There'sjust the amount of possible life out there

(01:23:09):
is just unbelievable. And so Iguess my question with all of that,
and you're you're talking about how wehave these governing this federation that kind of
watches over us, and there's somekind of you know, order to that.
How is it we as individuals,you know, we some of us

(01:23:30):
pray or some of us just thinkto our you know, whatever our higher
self is, and we all youcall it something different, but there's an
there's the implication that there's there's soulsor these vibrational entities, these beings out
there that help us individually. Andit's hard to understand. How can something
out there, these buildings and thingsreally be there to help me individually,

(01:23:55):
and how can I connect with somethinglike that? Well, right now there
is a huge effort by the ourgalactic family to connect with you know,
their offspring, which is us tostar seats. So I would say that
the best way to do it,if you if you want to establish communication
with your your star family, isthrough meditation. And then you have to

(01:24:17):
pop the question. You have toask the question. You have to voice
it and say, you know,I want to make contact with you,
and you have to and they willhear you telepathically. Cool. Yeah,
so there is a way to communicatewith them, but you have to be
serious about it, and you haveto be dedicated, you know, establishing

(01:24:40):
thirty to forty minutes a day,perhaps even an hour to try to quiet
your mind so that you could gointo some sort of state of mind where
you could actually begin to telepathically connectwith your star family, because they're all
they're doing is just waiting for usto communicate with them, because that's how
first contact is going to establish.It's never going to come from the government.
Guys, the government, and it'ssad, you know. The real

(01:25:03):
contact that's going to happen through thestar seats, through the through the aliens
that are here in human form.I'm sorry to say the lesson also in
the sense, so those aliens thatare here and here in human foreign can
we recognize them? Yeah. Theyvibrate with a particular frequency, so it's
all in their energy field. Theynormally exert or exuit a type of indigo

(01:25:29):
or violet or blue, blue,purple and indigo. That's the vibration that
the star seats have. They exudethem. So when when you are in
contact with one of them, andif you have the clairvoyant gifts, you
could actually see their aura or youcould be clear sentient and you could feel,
you know, their their energy field, which is different than the average
person because most stuments only vibrate anywherefrom sixty hurts or milli vaults to about

(01:25:58):
you know, one hundred and twentyone hundred fifty, whereas the stars people
that are down here in human form, and a lot of them are in
the fifties, sixties, and seventies. They came in the fifties, by
the way, or eighties, inthe late forties, that's when the first
wave came in. Uh you know, of course, a huge chunk of
the mark the forties, fifties andsixties and late thirties. That could explain
a few a few of you guys. So you guys are probably you don't

(01:26:18):
even know it. That's why.Oh we know it, we know it.
We just don't want it anyway,No, just kiddingmating to the third
dimensional human you know world. Butthe whole point is they're they have a

(01:26:39):
certain type of frequency. They seethings differently. Their nonconformists from day one,
they don't just take face value whenthey learn in the educational system.
They question every everything and they're reallydrawn to the stars, the supernatural,
mysticism, and of course aliens andu of us. So that's when,
you know, let's talk about thata little bit, because what happens,

(01:27:01):
and you mentioned it at the topof the show, what happens when you're
like that and you go against thetide, You you are more intuitive,
you're more I mean, you know, Tara is like this too, with
the animals and nature and the trees. And my youngest son, I mean
he and I mean he was pickedon in elementary school because he saw kids
like pulling things off trees and hewas like trying to protect the trees.
So I totally resonate with that story. And so and he could call.

(01:27:26):
He didn't talk for three years wewere signing with him. He just clicked.
He would he spoke in a click, and he finally talked. But
he when he started talking, wouldcall people by color, so he would
see people's arrows. You know,he just turned twenty one, so he's
not my baby anymore. But let'syeah, but let's talk about that because

(01:27:47):
when when you are dealing with that, when you are taught to shut down
and you're different from everybody else.You can go through PTSD and you can
become very quiet and reserved. Andcan you share with us maybe some ways
to help, you know, ourlisteners out there, or any viewers that
either are going through that themselves orhave children that perhaps are a little bit

(01:28:11):
different. I mean, all thechildren now coming in with autism. Do
you think this is a part ofthe galactic plan? Kids that are much
more sensitive now you hear about rainbowkids or crystal kids or these things.
Can you speak about that and whatare some tips for parents or for the
individuals to kind of help bring themout of that and feel like they're okay

(01:28:31):
and they're they're safe. Well,it's definitely you could definitely develop some sort
of a state of depression. Youcould definitely do that because you're being told
to not be yourself first of all, depressing it's natural to you. So
based on my own experience, itwas very challenging. There was many of

(01:28:53):
times where I didn't want to behere anymore. I wanted to beat me
up, Scottie, take me back, where's my ship? You know,
it's the best thing to do,especially if you have kids that are autistic
because autistic. Okay, so kidsthat are autistic are really advanced. They're
just and that's why they label thembecause they don't use they don't need words

(01:29:14):
like we do. They're completely mental. Everything they do is mental. They
communicate, they see things mentally,and they're telepathic and they operate on higher
demand. Their consciousness rather, it'salready operating in higher dimensions. So it's
very hard for them to interact inthe third dimensional society, and that's where
they get labeled. So the bestthing to do is to nurture them to
try to engage their right brain byvisuals. They're more visual than they are,

(01:29:36):
you know, left brain oriented.Teach them how to master their breathing,
Teach them about yoga, teach themhow to meditate, you know,
teach them the art scripal arts.And that's one way in which these kids
can learn to harness their power becauseall it is just scattered focus. All
you have to do is is learnhow to beam that focus. You know,

(01:29:56):
once you learn learn how to controltheir minds. They're scattered folks,
it's just able. It's able.They're able to narrated into anything you want,
and they achieve it. Align theirchakras right, So you know it
is tough. It is tough,it's not easy. Go ahead, Tara,

(01:30:18):
Well, I have a question foryou. So you talk about how
there's really no such thing as death, but it's really a transformation into another
dimension. So isn't it all aboutlight? And that's the exciting thing is
that everything is just a different formof light, all energy and us and

(01:30:40):
you could talk about that, it'sjust kind of cool. Well, we
are light, yes, yes,we're the angels. We originated in light
where beings of light. You know, our original avatar was not flesh and
bones, it was it was alight body. It was a Markova was
a tortial field, and that allowsus to know as verse or at least

(01:31:05):
travel to different places of different dimensionsat one point. So as as light
beings, you could say that ourconsciousness is part of that field. You
know. That's why even when youthink of how the forces of nature,
magnetism, the gravitational field, it'sall living consciousness. You could actually communicate

(01:31:26):
with the electromagnetic field. You cancommunicate, yes, with the weak force
and the positive force and the strongforce and all the forces. Because it's
it's who we are, you know, as energy beings, we can connect
with every level of intelligence at willif you wanted to. Well you discuss
in your book also like the futureand and you know, changing into this

(01:31:51):
more positive vibration of love and compassion. And and I thought it was interesting
about the future how you talked aboutmaybe the new motto is it's the greatest
benefit for everyone and everything if I'mgetting that right, And and that your
philosophy, future philosophies that we areall one where right now we feel so

(01:32:13):
separated and there's such you know,forced you know, fighting against each other.
So the future, I think that'sreally cool. Yeah, and it's
being led by the Star people,all of you guys out there. You
know, even the fact that youguys have this platform that reveals what's happening,
you know, with UFOs and capturingfootage and talking about it, you

(01:32:35):
know, discussing it. I mean, this is a big part of a
star Seed mission. You know,what you guys do is definitely indicating that
you guys are all Star Seeds.So even you Shane, Yeah, I'll
tell you, I'm a very frustratedperson because it's so interesting not to make

(01:32:57):
this about me. But I knowI was drawn to UFOs in a very
nuts and bolts kind of way.And then as I began to you know,
experience it and get more deeply intothe you know, the community and
doing the research, you know,I began to appreciate the whole conscious consciousness

(01:33:19):
side of it on a whole otherlevel, which is awesome. But you
know, I've been a like aspiritual person my whole life, but I
feel like I'm as dumb as abox of rocks when it comes to,
you know, trying to connect.I mean, you know, I've I've
tried to you know, meditate,and you know, I go look at

(01:33:40):
the stars every night, you know, before I go to bed, and
I I you know, I triedto you know, contact and and it
just I just I feel like Iam deaf, dumb, and blind,
and it irustrates me because I havesuch an interest, but it just you
know, I mean, you know, I have a feel of synchronicities here

(01:34:00):
and there, and you know,had a little paranormal experience when I was
a kid, and you know,things like that. But you know,
I can't really say I've had anabsolute, undeniable siding. Uh, you
know, I haven't had any experiences. I mean, so it really frustrates
me because it feels like, youknow, I have the interest, but

(01:34:21):
it's like, I'm not, youknow, I don't have any connection besides
the you know, meditation, andyou know, I'm you know, I'm
positive about the whole thing. Anyrecommendations what I can do to maybe,
you know, tweak this a littleand and and make some progress that way.

(01:34:45):
Well, what about spending time withnature? How often do you do
that my phone a lot daily?I have a horse ranch and I take
care of, you know, anacreage, and I'm outside and you know,
I make sure to ground and barefoot and on the earth and really
commune with the animals. And youknow, my whole family we have a

(01:35:09):
love for animals and take care ofmany animals and and you know those sorts
of things. So, I meanthere's that too. I'm like, why
am I so dumb? You're not? It feels it though I feel similar
things. Shane. You know,yeah, you seem to be more intelligent
than the average person. I mean, the average person is still still pondering

(01:35:31):
if whether we're alone in the universeor not, trust me or not.
You're very intelligent. I mean,there's still people out there unfortunately that still
think that they never even think ifthere is other life forms out there other
than ourselves. I think, Shane, that you have to you have to
trust the divine path or guidance.And I feel like, and I hear

(01:35:54):
this from other contacts as well,that you're you are on this path and
you're listening and you're paying attention.Otherwise you wouldn't be here and you wouldn't
be doing what you're doing. Andand your role that you're playing right now,
the nuts and bolts guy, that'simportant too, because you're bringing along
those folks and they're slowly all goingto wake up together. So you have

(01:36:15):
an important role. Just know that, you dude, and don't don't dumb
yourself down like that, because you'revery intelligent and you play an import role.
I started in this even though Iwas an extreme experiencer from my Skinwalker
Colorado ranch experiences, and it wasfrightening. But and this is something I
wanted to ask Gizmo right now,Things that are unknown to us can be

(01:36:35):
seen as frightening, But for meand so many others out there, those
frightening events turn into a very spiritualpath and turn into something much more powerful.
And no matter how some of youknow you say star seats you want
to try and unplug or get offof it, it almost like pushes you

(01:36:56):
back, like, ah, you'regoing to go here and do this.
And I think if you're awake toit and you're listening and paying attention,
it turns into a very powerful spiritualAnd I can't tell you, I don't
want to drop names, but VerryRoth, there's some others in the field
that are very nuts and bolts driventhat have been awake into the more conscious
spiritual side by Jacques Vallet, youknow, he led led the pack and

(01:37:17):
really opening up this consciousness. Whatdo you think about that? Is well,
about the fear turning into a spiritualpath for people when it comes to
UFOs and ets, well, Ithink it all relates. I think you
can't be into the supernatural and notbeing too spirituality. You can't be into
extraterrestrials because it involves another dimension,beings from other planets and not have any

(01:37:40):
understanding of spirituality. I think it'sall interrelated, you know. I think
that even though there are different levelsof awakening, you know, some people
are still at the level of conspiracytheory, right, well, we know
that other government is hiding alien craft, we know that they're working with aliens
or retiliens, the grays, whatever. And then there is another level where

(01:38:00):
there are a little bit more consciousbecause now they're integrating spirituality with conspiracy theory.
They are doing the inner work,they are doing the spiritual cleaning or
the spiritual exercises, and then nowthey're starting to understand that, yeah,
even though that there are negative etsworking with our government, there has to
be also positive ets that are counteractingnow and obviously working in benefit, in

(01:38:24):
the benefit for humanity, and sothen now they begin to align more with
that. And then of course thereare those that are just extremely advanced where
they're like literally masters of the matrix, constantly manipulating time, matter people around
them, and they're living like they'reextraterrestrials while being human at the same time

(01:38:44):
of course having these amazing abilities.So there are different levels of awakening,
I would say on the planet ring, and all of those levels are still
within less than ten percent, unfortunately, because I believe that once we hit
ten percent, that's when we hitcredit mass and the collective consciousness of humanity
begins to understand these higher concepts.Awesome, Tera, Did you have a

(01:39:13):
question, extract? I'm sorry,I guess I do. Your Your book
mentions that you know that we mayhave lost a lot of the records of
our past on this planet, butother planets have records of the galactic wars
and things like that. Do theyhave records of us as well? Could
could our libraries, you know,once we communicate, could our libraries be

(01:39:38):
opened again or how should I sayit, replenished with the records they have.
Absolutely, Well, you know,we talked about the halls of records
being underneath the sphinx, right,that is an example of records that have
never been corrupted or contaminated, andthey're still they're fully intact. But yes,

(01:40:00):
the different systems out throughout, thedifferent civilizations that are more geared towards
service to others that are in ourfavor definitely have a copy of all of
our records as well, because youknow, a lot of these civilizations,
all they do is they just takerecords of what happens in these lower worlds
that are being monitored by say aType two civilization. Because even primitive worlds,

(01:40:25):
believe it or not, are alsobeing watched by these type two civilizations,
and they wait for them to reacha certain level of consciousness first of
all, a certain level of spiritualmaturity, cultural and technological progress before they
begin to slowly but surely you couldsay, begin the process of first contact.

(01:40:46):
So this is happening any planets,not just in the Earth. It's
just that the Earth happens to beone of the most important planets in the
whole cosmos for many reasons. Interesting, Let's talk about free will for a
minute and humans if we have freewill or not. So let's say we
are incarnated with a DNA of adraco or a reptilian or something like that,

(01:41:10):
and we're kind of their minion,you know, a certain individual.
Does that individual then have the freewill to conquer that and choose a lighter
side and say I don't want tobe a part of this anymore. I
choose love and oneness and light andnot be doomed to their their fate.
I mean, is how do yougo about that? First? Can they

(01:41:30):
and then how do you do that? I guess through meditation in that but
can they even begin to do that? Or you just sort of sorry,
do they know? Yeah, wellyeah, First foremost is are they aware
that they're being and then once theybecome aware of that, then yeah,
it's it's their choice to overwrite theprogramming through willpower of course, because unless

(01:41:54):
they're fully AI or cybernetic, theystill have you could say, connection to
source, to God even if theyand they could change it. And to
give you an example, not allthe reptilions are evil. About a twelve
percent of the reptilian population in Oriontwelve percent, which is less than fifteen
percent defective. They didn't want tolive according to the service self philosophy,

(01:42:17):
and for the expansion of the empire, they decided to defect and kind of
live their own lives without you know, falling into the mindset of the typical
draco, and they became spiritual.They decided to live in harmony with other
beings. So, just to giveyou an example, anybody could defect from

(01:42:39):
the dark side. Anybody could overoverride the negative programming if they wanted to,
as long as they're not yeah,as long as they're not fully AI,
because once you're fully once you're cybernetic. Like in terms of like the
Grays, the Grays are definitely notorganic anymore. They are definitely cybernetic,
inorganic as a diet race. Youknow, to give you an example,

(01:43:00):
why do you think the grace havebeen extracting aches from women on the earth
because they want to save goodine race? Because they lost their connections to go.
I want to create a certain hybridthat will allow their whatever is left
for their consciousness to incarnate in abody that has a connection to go.
Wow. Well that's a hopeful messageactually, And I kind of want to

(01:43:23):
talk to you too a little aboutyou know, you mentioned, you know,
spending time in nature and meditating andeven you know, as long as
you can throughout the day to reallyconnect. But can you talk about you
mentioned telekinesis and certain powers, andyou mentioned that you have kind of worked
with these different abilities the Monroe Institutebending spoons and can't are those abilities we

(01:43:47):
can all kind of work to developAnd what have you done in that realm?
Well, I'm still trying to rememberand trying to you could say,
switch on some of these abilities,but I do know that by being part
of these off world programs that Ido have altars and it's when I switch

(01:44:08):
into these altars that I'm able toconnect with my say telekinesis and telempathy and
all that stuff. But we allhave it in us, and I think
through disciplinary meditation we could all unlockbegin to unlock our abilities by willpower and
choice, because you know, thisis just the beginning of our what we

(01:44:30):
are capable of doing, this isjust us using perhaps even just a tiny
more percentage of our entire genetic material. You know, once we reach twenty
percent, we're going to be likeX Men twenty five thirty and we become
like the gods. And then ofcourse, if we ever reach one hundred
percent God, we're going to bebe We're going to be able to pretty

(01:44:55):
much create anything we want at willour own universe want to. And that's
why these beings of the twelfth dimensionthat are part part of a part of
category for civilization, that's all theyengage in. They just create universes because
they don't, Yeah, they don'thave time to. It's considered it's considered
immature for them to engage in galacticwars at that level. Can can you

(01:45:23):
talk about time and space and astime exists in all dimensions and it only
exists up to the third fourth.I think once we get to the fourth
dimension, time becomes kind of likeplastic. You could just tweak in and
play with it. And that's howhow they're able to tie travel is because
they're trying. They're going into higherdimensions where everything's happening at the same time,

(01:45:45):
because once you get to the fifthdimentioned, there is no time.
And so at that point, ifthere is no time and you have access
to all of time on every time, you know, in every trajectory as
far as we see it from youknow, sequly in the third dimension from
a higher dimension, it's all happeningat once. So that's how they're able
to time travel. Wow, Soit's like the Black Universe type of thing,

(01:46:08):
kind of similar. Similar, youcould say something like that, you're
you're on the right track. It'shard to comprehend sometimes, Oh it is.
It is, you know, that'swhy time is irrelevant and fifth dimensional
Earth and above it's it's only existinghere. Do you think in some of
our military black access projects, who'sa we've all heard anywhere from we're more

(01:46:31):
advanced, maybe forty fifty years moreadvanced than what the average person knows.
Do you think that somehow they theymeaning military or black access projects, were
able to manipulate and learn how tomanipulate time and jump time like Project looking
Glass in that And how did thataffect what's happening now? Well, there's

(01:46:57):
this thing called the Mandela effect.We're cast simply alternating from one alternative Earth
to the other, where in astate of superposition you have infinite numbers of
probability Earth's taking place. So theMandela effect is pretty much the result of

(01:47:17):
the time wars that are taking place, a timeline wars, and it's taking
place by everyone, both the Lightin the dark. Everyone's time probling.
You know, we have people timetraveling from the first creation all the way
from the beginning of the time,the fifteenth dimensional time matrix, we have
traveling into the future, and thenwe have people from the future traveling into
the past to try to alter thefuture. So it's it's a it's a

(01:47:43):
war that has already been won bythe Light in a sense where they were
able to pin down the Dark sideon every probability and every so so that's
why our future is so hopeful exactly. That's why we are going to be
witnessing the rise of the Golden Age. It's been prophesied about the Age of
Aquarius. Sorry I was on mutethere, so you had already talked about,

(01:48:15):
you know, our DNA being afocus and you know the reasons for
that. But you know, I'vehad a couple of cattle mutilation cases in
my career as an investigator, andit seems like that continues to this day.
I mean, it started documented backin the forties and so forth.

(01:48:39):
Is that is it related to anyof this or is this something that standalone
different or do you what are yourthoughts on that, because again, if
it's a DNA thing, you know, I mean it's been seventy years they've
been doing it. What you know, how what more can you learn type
of thing? But any thoughts onthat at all, Well, they're still

(01:49:00):
conducting these horrible interbreeding programs where theywere cross breeding species humans with animals.
Unfortunately, that's existed during the timesof Atlantis, and it was one of
the reasons why Atlantis fell. Butit's it's been happening and it's still happening
again. So that was something thatwas established in the nineteen fifty four through

(01:49:25):
Project I believe it was called theGray Ada Treaty g R E. A
TA. I believe gray a treatythat allowed the Grays to not only abduct
humans of females to extract their eggsof course, harvest genetics, but also
they were mutilating, you know,like say cows and stuff and a different

(01:49:47):
types of animals. But I thinkthat they were also taking genetics from animals
as well. It's interestingged go ahead, go ahead, fa okay, go
ahead. I was interesting. Thankyou. I wanted you to finish your
point. I was just saying thatit's interesting you brought that up. I

(01:50:09):
just that's what I did over LaborDay weekend. I'm going to share some
photos next week on the show.But Snippy the horse, which you know,
was a famous horse mutilation in nineteensixty seven, the family invited me
out there over the weekend. Wehad a SkyWatch and and all that stuff
to uf a watchtower. But youknow, so that was a heavy topic

(01:50:30):
and they're they're hope hopeful to maybeplan a yearly event up there. But
what was interesting about it is themutilation phenomenon has been seen as such a
kind of a dark, heavy topic, and they're all about consciousness and enlightenment
and ascending and making this positive.So that's a conversation the family was having

(01:50:53):
and it was interesting how you turnedsomething like that into something that can be
positive, and so kind of ismawas speaking about. Ultimately, at the
end of the day, we cantake something like that and turn it into
something positive. So thank you forbringing that up, Shane, And it
is very much still going on tothis day, which brings me to my
next question. You mentioned that,and you know, I know you can't

(01:51:16):
predict the future, and you're saying, possibly under a decade, that this
is sort of all coming, thisbattle that's been going on for millennias coming
to a head. What do youview or what do you see or what
have you downloaded or heard that thisis going to actually look like? I
mean, are we going to seebig tidal waves and flooding? Should we

(01:51:39):
have some sort of preparation planned?What are you seeing and hearing? Well,
it depends on which version of theEarth you're vibrating with, because right
now we are existing in the there'smultiple scenarios unfolding in the spectrum of negative
and positive and everything in between.We could say, let's just start by

(01:52:02):
seeing in the negative Earth spectrum,where we call the negative timeline. Yes,
there's going to be tsunami's, earthquakes, perhaps even a pulse shift right,
massive cataclysms, but there's in apositive reality timeline, there's going to
be miracles taking place worldwide. Allof a sudden, people are going to

(01:52:23):
be having these abilities, all ofthe wicked and negative enterities are going to
be dispersed from that reality, fromthat Earth, and all of a sudden,
everything's going to go back to beinghow it was before the falling consciousness,
going back to the plants. Sodepending on where you're vibrating, there's
going to be some sort of ofEarth's yet where the fifth dimensional Earth begins

(01:52:45):
to split from the third dimensional Earth, and those that are on the spiritual
path through their hearts, you know, through their own integrity, are going
to be able to go into thepositive Earth. Right. Interesting, So
basically in a nutshell is going tothe reality that your experience is going to
depend on where you are spiritually andhow you vibrate. Okay, so you

(01:53:08):
hear that, everybody, all ourlisteners, everybody, you can work on
it. Yeah, stay positive,And now that is a challenge. It's
a daily challenge, especially the worldwe're in right now. And I think
one of the keys is and maybeIsmael has a tip, but we only
have what four minutes left of theshow. The time flew by. But
as you work and you do thespiritual work and you're you have to ascend,

(01:53:31):
and you may have friends and familiesthat don't and how do you deal
with that? How do you keepfollowing that spiritual path while trying to maintain
all that other negative energy that goeson around you. Do you have any
advice for people, Well, thebest thing to do is set yourself that

(01:53:55):
some boundaries. If you, guys, feel like you're certain there's people that
are no longer supporting you or nolonger align with your purpose, they could
be hindering you, which at whichpoint you have to set boundaries. Because
in the end of the end ofthe day, you know you are your
own savior. Nothing externally is goingto save you but yourself. So I
would say, you know, justin order to keep that high vibration,

(01:54:19):
high frequency, you have to setboundaries with those that are trying to pull
you down, that are trying tosuck your life excellent, that's an excellent
way to end on a more positivenote. I didn't want to end with
that the end of the world kindof so yeah, set boundaries, keep
doing the good work, keep youknow, serving others and not serving self.

(01:54:40):
So I appreciate it. I wantto mention again your book. I
hope our cosmic origin. I hopeeverybody picks up a copy again your website,
check out his website. And alsoyou will be speaking at an event
I believe in November. Is thatright, the Stairway to the Stars.

(01:55:00):
I believe that's in Las Vegas.Can you tell us a little bit about
that. Yes, it's being promotedby Gaya TV and I believe Fate to
Black. So it's going to bea huge event. I'm going to be
there with a lot of great speakersthat are in the field, and it's
going to be interesting because this isgonna be my first time where actually I
get to speak at an event whereyou're going to have people from ancient Aliens,

(01:55:24):
You're gonna have fepens, all thesedifferent part of the industry. Yeah,
like veterans are in the industry,So it's going to be exciting.
I'm going to be breaking down theentire cosmic and galactic history, the different
dimensions, all the way from thetop down. So hopefully cool people,
you know, for those that showup, it's going to be mind blowing.
But I'm also going to be speakingin an event on the fourteenth of

(01:55:45):
this month to the seventeenth, whichis next weekend. I think Luxter Resort
and Casino, and that's nice.That's called the Alien Event. Okay,
the Alien Event, the Alien Event. That's awesome. Yeah. I hope
our listeners can get out there andsee you. We certainly appreciate you being
our guest tonight on the show.Sorry about our little crazy cosmic cosmic discriturbances.

(01:56:12):
Thank you to Tara, Thank youto Shane Tara, thank you for
running the back end. Thank youto Bill Skywatcher and KGr And I hope
everybody out there has a fantastic restof your week and a fantastic weekend,
and we will see you back herenext Tuesday night. So take care of
everybody and have a great one.Thank you so much. Nice meeting,
all, great meeting. Yeah,yes, thank you.
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