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Governments tonight, Military's tonight, eventhe mainstream media denights, but they are
here and we've been clear for verylong time. The Mutual UFO Network has
been on the front lines uncovering thetruth since nineteen sixty nine, and now
we're sharing that truth with you.Welcome upon What's Up with your hosts Katie

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the Mutual UFO Network, always askingthat all important question, are we alone
in the universe? We have afantastic guest for you tonight. We have
Laala Bright. Lalla Bright is apsychic medium and she's also a UFO experience
or contact d So I can't waitto talk with La La this evening.
Got to sit with her on apanel on online panel just the other night,

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and she is just chock full ofreally cool information. So looking forward
to that. I'd like to bringin my co host. We have Tara
Daulas Tara. You can see Taraalso here on k JR A on skytur
Live with Mark d'antono. How youdoing, Terra? Did you have a
wonderful vacation? We missed you lastweek? Hi Katie? What's up everyone?

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Yes, I am glad to beback, even though I would love
to still be on vacation. Itwas great. It was great. He
was like on a yacht, rightI was. I was hanging out on
Lake Powell on a boat, soit was awesome. Not a boat,
baby, Yeah, awesome. Lat'sspring. Shane Hurdan. Shane is the

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assistant state director for Phoenix Move Onand he has an awesome book. If
anybody's at all interested in investigating UFOs, I highly recommend Shane's awesome book,
Ginner's Guide to Researching UFOs. Howyou doing, Shane? Good? Good,
Thank you for the shameless plug there, and yeah, I didn't have

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his glamorous of a week. Ibasically shoveled horse stalls morning noon tonight because
my poor wife broke her fing soI have to. But I'd be breaking
something every week. I know myankle this time. Can't do it.

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Can't do it. You're wearing yourwinning shirt. I'm winning today by a
nose. I love it. Ilove it. Hey, I want to
give a shout out to all thosein Florida. We know we have hurricane
headed that way, so our thoughtsare with all of you, and I
hope you all stay safe out thereand evacuate if you're told to evacuate.

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We just had to do that acouple of weeks ago here we had a
fire within a mile of the house. So you know, these different weather
events that are out of our control. They're scary, but just go where
it's safe. You know, nothing'sworth worth risking your life over. So
stay safe out there in Florida.Yeah. Yeah, So Tara, what
do you have to kick us off? Well, so if you're flying to

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Florida, do you hate going tothe airports? Any airport? I know,
all the stuff you have to do. Have you ever wondered what it's
like maybe for aliens to go tothe airport. So today's Means Shows gives
us a glimpse of that, andit shows aliens going through security at the
airport and the guards shouting his instructions. You can tell he's just sitting their
board as heck, telling them tocompletely empty the contents of their stomachs and

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put their eyes in the tray.And here we thought we had it bad.
They're kind of going you can't evensee to go through the security.
It's funny, that's hilarious. Youwonder, I bet they have to do
the same thing. I wonder ifthey have to take their shoes off too
before they get on board. Idon't think you wear shoes. I don't
know. I've never seen an alien. So it seems like they want something,

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so well onto that. So ifyou're you go to Florida and you're
indoors, you know, staying withthe hurricanes, what you can do is
how about a big puzzle? Sothese are found on Amazon and they're proudly
made in the USA, and they'rep souls that basically are hidden piece images
puzzles. So here we have Bigfootand the Yetty, and they both have

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some beautiful images inside of them,and the big Foot's more like tropical,
where the Yetty is all that niceand cold stuff going on. But these
are inn't that pretty, and theyhave such kind faces. But there's eight
hundred and fifty pieces something you cando while you're indoors, just hanging out

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with your family or friends. Andwhere else can you find it but on
Amazon, where you can pretty muchfind anything, right, So, so
it's just not it's never too earlyto start that Christmas shopping. And I'm
telling you, it reminds me thefaces of those if you could put the
one back up, the summertime one. He looks like Harry and the Henderson's

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from Harry in a Hansons? Doeshe not put him on the roof of
your station wagons? Trap them ondown add out with the family. Truckster
is so kind looking. You know, who wouldn't want to hang out with
them? You know? Did youguys remember that movie? That's a great
movie. It's John lescou and allthe fun people so great. That's awesome.

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deals and offers and they've hydrated.Yep, we're all doing that every day.
So well, Shane, we're allcurious. What have you heard lately?
Have you? Yeah? Yeah,have you guys heard. I was
thinking about a couple of things thatkind of irritated me this week. So

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I'm gonna not be snarky, butyou know, sometimes you just gotta let
it go right, Okay. SoI don't know if you guys you know
what a trope is. A tropeis like a statement that means something else
essentially so, and so it's usuallyused well, some examples would be like

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hyperboles or irony, or metaphors orjuxtapositions and things. So I think you'll
understand what I'm talking about as Imove on further through this. But I'll
say, you know, I loverespect and admire you know, Neil Degrass,
Tyson, Bill Nye, Stephen Hawkingwhen he was alive, that sort

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of thing. But they typically willuse or make these kinds of statements when
talking about UAP, and it justfrustrates me a little bit because you know,
we're all about trying to have credibilityon the issue. You know,
it's something we've fought for for eightyyears and we're finally getting some. But
there are some holdouts out there,and I can get it. Scientific communities

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got to be careful about what theysay. But you know, they are
leaders and people listen to them.They influence people, so you know,
I want them to, you know, do and say the right thing.
So I'm going to just give youa couple examples here. So the first
one is this, and I betyou guys have heard it. We've all
heard this. It's with a billioncell phones on the planet, why are

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there no good photos and videos ofUAP? Right, we've all heard that.
Well, first of all, whatI'd like to say is there are
millions of photos and videos of UAP. Move On has a couple hundred thousand
themselves, right, The UAP,Pass Force, a tip ASA Arrow Bluebook,

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the DoD the Navy, the AirForce, and many other nations all
have photos and videos of UAP andthe public in general has many, uh
you know, just log onto theinternet and you're tripping over them already,
right. They're on the front pageof all these apps and websites now right

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because it's it's a popular topic.So that enlargement it's really hard to swallow.
You know. They want to makeit sound like they're just none or
they're none that are good right.Well, you know among those millions of
photos and videos are definitely misrepresentations,you know, hoaxes, there's misidentifications.

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Much like in the investigation process,when we investigate, you know, ninety
percent of our cases you can prettymuch, you know, find an explanation
for what you know, there's apercentage that are true unknowns, and the
same is true with these photos andvideos. Some of what we are seeing
are true unknowns now because you're justseeing them on the Internet and that sort

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of thing. It's very difficult togo through the process of vetting them and
making sure that they're real and accurateinvestigating. But it's being done what your
average person may not be able todo that, So I get that,
but it's that little uncertainty and obscuritywhere when you start making those comments.
You know, it's it's sort ofa dig, but it's really actually not

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true, and I think it's alittle weak and a little bit lazy and
actually a little bit dishonest. Soit irritates me when I hear those those
sorts of things. And you know, if you're a debunker, please stop,
I don't like that. You know, we don't need that stuff.

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You know, we're on the cuspof really learning something you know, important
and valuable here and we need toyou know, people who have influence should
use it to help bring credibility tothe topic and not not demean it.
Right, Okay, So the secondtrope that that kind of irritates me in
about you've all heard this one aswell, is hey, if they have

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the technology to come all the wayhere from light years away, I hardly
think they're going to crash their vehicleshere on Earth. Okay, all right,
let's get into this one. Ohreally, what's principle? Is this
opinion formed? Right? Just becausedoesn't make it so? And in the

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experience in all of human history,what machine do you hold as an example
of one that never fails? Solet's think about it. All machines,
they're first imagined, then they're designed, then they're manufactured, they're tested.
When they fail, you go throughthe whole process again until you get it

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right right, and then and I'lljust say that process is not a reflection
of a state of perfection, right, it's mistake laden. It is.
It takes effort. You know,science is hard, and so it's a
reflected that's reflected in that process.And then when you do get a machine,

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you know, perfected quote perfected whereyou want it. It fulfills a
purpose for which you design it,it still requires maintenance, repair, you
know, upgrading software, hardware,that kind of thing. And so why
would we make the assumption that machineis made by someone else would not have

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these same characteristics. That makes nosense. Just because a civilation civilization might
be more advanced than us, itdoesn't equate to perfection, right when you
think about it, Usually the morecomplex something is, the more likely it
can fail. And a lot ofpeople like to look at Ockham's razor,

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right, and Oham's razor essentially sayssomething to the effect that you know,
the simpler something is more likely,you know that you understand it correctly,
and you know simple is better thancomplex. Right. So the thing is,
so we we have observations that arenot explained by the evidence. So

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the evidence is there are crash retrievals. Right, We've not seen the proof
yet, but there's evidence there.So why are they crashing? Let's not
just you know, dismiss it.Why there must be a reason. Right,
Well, again, let's look athuman activity. Why do human made
crash crafts crash? Well, there'smechanical failure, there's pilot air, there's

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weather, there's physical phenomena, environmentalinfluences, collisions, hostile acts, et
cetera. Well, why would weassume these would not apply to any et
vehicle or craft, especially here inour atmosphere. Right, that there's no
reason to conclude that that would bethe case. Again, the evidence suggests

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otherwise, right, and you knowit might be due to superstition or religious
belief or justice you know, needto debunk. That makes some ignore this
evidence, But the fact is evensuggests it does happen. Somebody agrees with
you. Yeah, and then thegod speculated they might even be doing it

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intentionally to you know, seed humanculture so that we can advance more rapidly
from a technogic technological perspective. Butbottom line is actually none of us know.
We don't know, we don't knowwhat happens, why it happens,
at least not in the public domainanyway. But you know, the suggestion

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is that it's happening. And again, ignoring that, I think is you
know, kind of weak and quitekind of lazy, and it's an obvious
you know, obfuscation, uh,you know, designed to impugne the topic
rather than support it. And that'swhat kind of irritates me, you know.
And I would just like to askeveryone, you know, whether you're

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a layman, a scientist, military, law enforcement, educators, religionists and
everyone, just treat the topic withsome respect and and others and their opinions
with respect, and think about it. Humans are the most curious, imaginative
explorers known to the universe. Solet's act like it and find the truth

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about this phenomena once and for allfor the benefit of all of humanity.
That's it, is it? Great? Shade? Really? I mean you
bring up so many good points though, I mean, weather phenomenon, radar,
lightning storms, drunk pilots, youknow, these are could be teenage

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extraterrestrials. For joy, riot.Let's go see the crazies on planet Earth.
They're drinking, having a little toomuch fun. They crash that we
don't know. We don't know,we don't know what, we don't know
either, anything's possible. I mean, I'm thinking in the evolution of extraterrestrials,
they have to go through like adolescents, just like the rest of us,

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and we take you know, westeal the parents' car or whatever.
And not only that chain, butwe have so many different types of craft,
right some appear to be crashing morethan others. So to your point,
you know, of scientists, Danejust went he's not shooting and he

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just went the paranormal show. Nowhe's here. Oh, Tara too.
Hello, I think it's Katie.You guys, can you Katie? We
hear you. Oh it was onmy end that court. Everybody just went

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away. I heard that Mercury's andretrograde. You guys, I think has
it been like all week? Becauseit feels like it all right now that
that that's a really good, goodargument, Shane, I agree with,
And speaking of different types of craft, the case of the week this week

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is kind of interesting sometimes with thesephotos and videos we even US investigators have
a tendency to make quick judgments basedon We will look at a video,
We'll look at a photo and go, oh, it's our ABC r D,
it's this, that or the otherthing, without really taking any time
to go frame by frame and lookingwith an open mind. To Shane's point,

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let's all take a step back.We're trying to figure out this phenomena
together, leave our opinions to theside, and just look what's presented to
us. And the case this weekis sort of like that. First,
I'd like to say that it's nevertoo late to report in a historic case,
because although this one was just reportedin the last few months, it

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dates from May seventeenth of twenty seventeen, so you know a little bit of
an older case. It is casenumber Hold, let me get the light
here. It is case number onethree, two, one, six four.
It was a Category two case outof Glendale, Arizona. So we're
in your backyards right there, rightthere. So the reporting person says,

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as I was walking on the westside of the house, I happened to
look up and the sun was blockedout by the solar panel. I saw
the orbs as they appeared to glow. I hurried into the house and got
my iPhone. I shot some stillphotos and had to work very hard to
record them as they flew overhead.One flew very close to the house and
appeared to be about the size ofa Ford fusion. It was a cloudless

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and pretty much windless day. Inthe video, you'll see the solar panel
in the lower left corner and twoorbs. If you stretch the video you
will see more orbs further in thebackground. The orbs were moving very very
fast. Turns out the person whophotographed this event actually he was a videoographer
for two very large sport team sportsteams, so he is a videographer for

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a living, so a very crediblewitness. And before I say more and
how this case was concluded, I'llgo ahead and roll the first video terra

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mmmmmmmmmm for a little while, andthat was slowed down. But I have

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two others that I slowed down andzoomed in on. And the first one
I counted up to twelve of theseglowing orb like lights. So if you
want to run that second slowed video. At three thirty in the afternoon and

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one of the field investigators theories orsomebody who analyzed the videos theories were they're
on Google Earth. You could seethat there were a lot of what is
a certain type of tree, andmaybe perhaps they were seeds of this tree
blowing in the wind. But what'sinteresting is the more I looked at the

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video, I saw like streaks ofalmost like they were traveling really fast.
So that third video, if youkeep an eye, you'll see these streaks
as they are like seem to excelin their speed and they leave a trail.
So if we can run that thirdvideo, you'll see what I'm talking
about. Like I said, therewere twelve of these things kind of all

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going in different and there's one pointwhere three of them, three lights kind
of come together in a triangle andthen kind of shoot in different directions.
If there were something blowing in thewind, do you think they'd all kind
of go with the wind. Whatdo you guys think about this one?
It was closed as an unknown other, So, oh, I think it's

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great video, even though it's kindof difficult to see. There's there's quite
a lengthy video. Oh I forgotin the video too, there's a bug
that flies through, So there's aphotograph yeah, let's do that one where
it has the objects. Okay,so you see the house or the solar
panel, you see those orbs there, and then you see bug. And
during the video you could see thebug. Actually you could see the wings.

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You can see how the bug moves, which is excellent because it really
differentiates the bug and the orbs.And you have the house for perspective,
so really cool. And then therewere two other quick photos of just the
orbs that the witness sent in.But I counted, yeah, I counted
twelve of these things in that footage. And and the the FI in this

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case also, you know, statesthat this is a phenomenon that scene around
the world. He looked at severalother examples from cases in France and they're
very similar, eerily similar to whatthis witness captured. So what do you
think, Shane, Yeah, Imean, I think it's inconclusive, but
that is a common thing to see. I had a sighting those very similar

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to that. It was a singularobject, but you know, kind of
the white bright dot and the skyand that they are kind of confounding because
uh, you know, like yousaid, if if it were the cottonwood
puffs of of uh, you knowcotton that comes off these trees, it

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would behave differently. And the picturedid have some scale to it with the
solar panel and then later the onewith the bug, and so you could
really see that that thing was oftenat a distance, a greater distance.
So it was it was distant andas large as say the bug. Right,
so it had to be bigger thanthe bug, you know, uh,

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scaled up comparatively to the distance.We don't know it's the exact distance.
So it was that was not alittle piece of puffy stuff coming off
a tree. Based on what thatjust that last image that we saw.
And of course, like we alwayssay, it's not the visual representation,

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it's the movement. What was itdoing? And again it wasn't just kind
of floating around and and like yousaid, the streaking indicates that it's tracking.
You know, a camera goes atthe frames per second, and so
if it's moving fast enough, you'regetting to get that trailing that comes behind
it, so right and speak ina movement. What was really interesting I

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put the video and after effects Adobeafter effects, and I was trying to
track the one orb you know howyou can track it, so I could
put put like a round circle aroundit so you guys could follow the object
more easily on video here. Andwhat was interesting, I tried this several
times in the tracking kept tracking tothe left and down in the same pattern

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as if it was tracking something somethingelse that we couldn't see with our eyes.
And I'm like, I found thatvery curious. And that's another thing
with this phenomenon. That's why moveOn has the category, you know,
unidentified other because we do have theselighted orbs or these just what seemed to
be balls of light, or somepeople call them fairy lights. There's so

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many different names for these anomalous lights, and they can be orange, blue,
white, and I think La Lahas experienced this also and has captured
some of these lights with her camerasas well. And we could talk to
our guest about that, because youdon't know what category to put them.
Are they observing us? Are theyscouting lights? Are they I don't know

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what they are, but they're mysteriousand they're seen all around the world,
and I don't think we can dismissthem. Maybe they're not your typical standard
nuts and UFO craft with you knowwhere we think we have pilots. But
maybe they have more controller over theseenergy balls, that's I like to call
them that, or maybe they perhapsare these really small little I don't know,

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they're very unusual, you know.So last case of the week this
week, we're going to get backto Bob next Tuesday. Bob was at
the move On Symposium this last weekend. From what I could see, it
looks like everybody had a wonderful timethere at the symposium and Cincinnati we miss
being there. None of the threeof us made it this year, but
we'll be there next year. Andit sounds like they had a terrific,

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terrific time and a great, greatattendance, so fun was had by all.
Hey yeah, so Tara, doyou have a Mars case? Yes,
in fact I do. Oh,thanks Katie, Katie. Again.
At the move On Symposium, theyjust started to announce at the Mars Archives

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of historic cases are going to beavailable for everybody this year, so you're
going to find all sorts of interestingthings. And so today's case it brings
us to the night of November nineteenthin Temperanceville, Virginia, and so I
have a case here of a thirtyyear old practical nurse who got off work

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just after eleven pm and began herusual drive home. It was several miles
away, and this is the typeof information you'll find in these cases.
She pulled into a stop sign andnoticed a green light hovering in a nearby
filled at an altitude of thirty toforty feet, and there was also a

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bright shaft of light similar to alight being shining down onto the field below.
And then she saw that it wasan object, and so she described
again this as a description. Shedescribed it as circular in shape with two
each stationary green and red lights,and it was moving slowly. She said
it was grayish silver and had abubble similar to those found on helicopters,

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which was illuminated by a soft interiorwhite light. And so the witness stated,
this is what's interesting about this caseis that there were three human like
silhouettes were seen moving about inside thebubble with their torsos visible from the waist
up. So at this time,so she described it as tube and red

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green lights, and then she describedit's a little bit close up and started
to pixelate, but there's three movingfigures in that little bubble that comes up
so at this time, the objectbegan to move toward the witness in her
car and she was stopped at astop sign and saw the UFO across,
and so she sat there and watchedit as it flew directly over her vehicle,

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blocking out the evening sky, andshe said it it was directly above
her. She heard a loud hummingnoise similar to like a generator, and
it drowned out all the other sounds, including her running vehicle, and then
the object continued on and quickly disappearedfrom view. So the investigation found that
the proximity of it's called Wallop's Islandif I'm spelling it the right, it's

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a NASA base there. It wasjust a few miles away, so it
makes the sighting suspicious. However,the description of the craft was unlike anything
the investigator had ever seen. Sothis is possibly a CE three case because
it was a visual sighting of anyou been our entity entity associated with the

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UFO. So all sorts of funstuff can be found in these archives.
So and that's what I have.So okay, excellent, okay, excellent
case, Tara. That humming noise, man, that that is something that
somebody needs to get to the bottomof Alright, let's just collect these these
craft that have these hums because youhear it time and time seems to be

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more prevalent in the seventies and eighties. And I think you said that case
was in the eighties cresty to eightytwo. So what you know, did
they was that like an old modelof the UFOs that that needed to hum.
I don't know, they're so interestingmaking muff it is, but there's

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there's there's thousands of these cases,so I it's just really fun to get
it in a privilege to get toview themselves. No, it truly is.
And I think, you know,to the point, we can learn
so much from historic cases and wecan't just dismiss them. We got to
go back look at them, reinvestigatethem, take a second look at them.
Michael Schratt is an expert at bringingthose old cases to life and illustrating

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those old cases. I just lovethe work that he's been doing with those,
and so much can be gleaned fromthose historical cases. So I'm really
glad that that's being rolled out.But I think it's time to bring in
our guests. I'm so excited.Let may read her bio and we'll bring
her on in. So. LaalaBright is a psychic medium. Laala's earliest
paranormal recollection was at age five,and it is of her finding her neighbor's

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grave in a Baltimore cemetery with thousandsof grays by hearing the deceased neighbor calling
her. Her father was a Reekypractitioner, experiencer, and energy worker and
recognized her instantly. She now speaksto the deceased for those who need it.
She speaks to aliens for those whoneed it needs it, and she
calls energy beings to her home dailyand gets them to respond intelligently. And

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I would like to welcome to theshow, La La Bright. Thank you,
ah, thank you so much forbeing here. Lalla. You know,
like I said, I got tomeet you briefly just here recently,
and I just I would like tojust start if you could just sort of
give us a background. I meanyou kind of touched on it there in
your bio. You know, you'rea young girl, and you know,

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like well just like in the moviewhere I See Dead People, I mean
that had been quite scary for you, right hearing or was it not I
don't want to put words in yourmouth, but walk us through that a
little bit. It was as ifit was an everyday occurrence, even the
first few times. Okay, Iguess because I was so young, I

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just didn't know any better to bescared, right. I believe I had
more experiences. I remember when Iwas really little, I would dream of
me in my backyard looking up ina whole bunch of crafts would be flying
over my head. And then afew years later I saw a movie with
them in it, and I said, oh, I know what those are.

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I dream about them all the time. Yeah, And throughout my life
in different ways, they'd show up. I've seen a craft. I've literally
seen a craft, the underbelly ofit and the detail in it by accident,
because the helicopter put its spotlight onit and it was hiding in a

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cloud. I didn't know they didthat until I saw it. And they've
showed up as like these orange orbsover the roof. And then I found
out I had a by accident goingthrough the I was going to Florida.
I was flying and I kept settingoff the metal detector and eventually I'm like,
can I look at what you guysare seeing, because nothing's in my

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pocket or on me, and it'sthe size of it. It's a rice
in my upper left outer thigh.Oh interesting. Yeah, I never fell,
I never had surgery. There's noscars, and I wake up,
especially lately, I've been waking upwith weird triangle bruises and weird things happen.

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So they've always been in my lifeand even my dad's life. Yeah,
yeah, I was gonna ask aboutyour dada. But so where did
you grow up? La, La? What state did you grow up in?
Baltimore, Maryland? Baltimore, Maryland? Okay ya, wow wow?
And so yeah, if you couldkind of share with us your dad,
you said, there's because you typicallyhere like experience hers, they run in

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families. So if you can justkind of share with us about your dad
too. Sure, I don't knowif this has anything to do with it,
but we're all old negatives, andI know there's kind of a mystery
with that. Nobody really knows thatmuch about it. But he was always
scared to talk about Like we werebest friends and he would talk about anything

(34:57):
and spirits and spooky stuff. Hewas terrified to talk about UFOs and aliens,
and one time he did say,you know, sometimes I see them
following me when I walked the dog, and that was it. And I
remember one time I was in Floridavisiting. I was helping him take out
the trash and five large orange orbsappeared, one at a time and went

(35:23):
in the shape of a V overthe roof, and I said, do
you see this to my dad?He looked up at him and robotically he
said no, and he turned aroundand went in the house and never came
out. And that wasn't like him, you know. And then when I
looked back up at him, theywanted a time disappeared and I don't remember

(35:43):
anything after that. Now, mymom, she never was really into any
of this and she never talked aboutit, so I don't know. But
are both are both your parents deceased? Now? They are? Yeah?
Okay, okay, which which isa reason a couple of years ago I
lost my parents and my son's fatherfather and my boyfriend, and so I

(36:07):
decided to stop hiding who I am, and I because I wanted to help
people feel better because I was hurtingso much, yea, and I couldn't
find a real good psychic to helpme heal. So I was like,
well, let me just help otherpeople. And that's how this all started.
I mean, it blossomed. Imet Bob and he helped me with

(36:30):
the business and this, and andit's like more entities are drawn to me
now because I'm more open to it. I'm not scared of it anymore.
Well, you brought up a coupleof really cool, cool things, La
La. First of all, I'msorry about losing so many people all at
once, but it's in those timessome often we find ourselves, sometimes at

(36:52):
the lowest points in our lives,where we do make the biggest changes.
And and I really commend you forliving your truth and speaking your truth and
wanting to help others, because somany of us in this community, especially
experiencers, are taught to be quietand to not share our gifts and fuel
of ridicule and being teased or notbelieved. And I just wanted to just

(37:15):
say here, all of us hereat move on. What's up that you
know we are, this is whatwe do, this is what we're trying
to figure out. And certainly thishas been a pattern that I've seen repeated
over and over again, not onlyseeing people's family members that not only like

(37:36):
you said, he's a raiki healercorrect, so he has the gift of
healing. You see these gifts,psychic gifts, healing gifts, energy workers
that have sightings and unusual paranormal experiences, things like that. So I just,
you know, I commend you fortaking the risk and and doing what
you're doing, especially when your motivesis to help and share with other people.

(37:58):
Thank you very much. That's reallyfine. It was a little scary
at first, but it's definitely worthit, and I think there's more to
There's lots more to come. Ido believe that when your heart's in the
right place for sure. Yes,uh la la, this is Shane.

(38:19):
I feel like I kind of knowyou and both Bob because of Facebook and
you know a lot of the thingsthat you you post and stuff. So
I think that's really awesome. Youknow. One of the things I find
fascinating are the are the videos andclips that you show of these orbs interacting
with you and we're talking like eitheroutside or inside. How How has that

(38:45):
come about? I mean, Ijust I think that's wild. I know
it sounds silly, but they canhear my thoughts. My intentions are pure,
which is number one. If somebodywants to do this, they know
what your intentions are, whether youwant to try to hire or not.

(39:07):
And it started with me really grieving, and I said, look, can
you just show me a sign becauseI need to get out of my head?
And they did and it started faraway in the stars, and over
the months they got closer and closerto the point where they were moving my
camera. So, and I thinkyou have video footage of that too.

(39:28):
Did you want to want to talkus through what this is that we're going
to look at here in a second? Sure? Right? It was really

(39:49):
fast, So then okay, you'regonna have to start over, because I
think it cuts out in the verybeginning, a little orb shut down from
the sky and then all of asudden something, a light and looks like
a little head right appears and youcan hear movement and it's slowly moving the

(40:13):
camera towards my neighbor's house and thenit shoots. The orb shoots back out.
Where they move the camera is wherethey now shine their lights. I've
seen crafts. I have video ofcrafts and shine in a light. Because
I was too dense to realize that'swhat they wanted. So they did it
for me. I'm serious, it'samazing. So where is your camera located?

(40:37):
Is it mounted? Is it mountedon a pole or on the house
or where is this camera located?So it was it's mounted now before it
was on a table. And it'spretty heavy, so you really have to
move in. You have to puta muscle into it. But it's in
the backyard and there's nothing around itto touch it or hit it. It

(41:01):
wasn't windy that night, so Ithought it was amazing. I mean,
and the fact that they it showedup almost as a being, but in
in in light. So can weshow that again, Terra, I want
want to say that again. Andso you see it pointing towards the trees

(41:37):
and the roof and you see somethingshoot off, and it's right, it's
cool. Cool, that is verycool, And I think it's hilarious that
you're like, I kind of didn'tget it, but they wanted it over
here so they could capture this nextphenomenon that you often you see often you

(41:58):
and Bob, Hi, Bob,you're watching by the way science And I
told Bob too. Bob was onthe panel. We've been having that phenomena
up here in the rocky mountains whereI didn't know if it was like heat
lightning or there's not a cloud inthe sky, but the light the sky's
lighting up, and I'm like,what the heck. We're out here in
the middle of the where, soI you know, it's not as yours

(42:22):
seems to be more localized. Oursthis kind of further in the distance.
But so if we can roll terrathat that one video of the rooftops and
treetops lighting up, and so theway our houses are put, there's no

(42:50):
way a car light could make thathappen, or a person could make that
happen, And it happens frequently.But for a couple of months it was
happening, and then I got toa point where I got bored of it.
I hate to say that. Theystopped doing it for a while,

(43:12):
and after a while I'm like,look, I'm sorry, I miss it.
Can you do it again? Andthey started doing it again. So
but that's good too, because thatlets me know, you know, because
it could have been anything but thatthey heard me, and they they brought
it back. And sometimes there's thislittle it looks like almost a mini helicopter,

(43:37):
and its sideways and then goes upand down, and then that light
starts to crawl and it shoots away. I mean, we've had we have
a video of a portal opening upand a light swooping around and out it
goes out the middle light goes outthe middle of portal and then it disappears.
Wow, that is some really coolfootage because that in of itself.

(44:00):
I know when I filmed with Beyond, there was people out there in Elbert
County that had very similar footage wherethey're out on you know, one hundred
and thirty acres of land. They'reout there elk hunting or something, and
these anomalous lights will just light upthe treetops or shine a beam down.
So you know, this isn't anisolated phenomenal. People are experienced experienced at

(44:22):
the same kind of thing all over. It makes you wonder, you know,
And I've thought this a lot inmy research, and maybe Shane and
Terra have felt the same things.But it does seem like I mean,
you talk about ets communicating telepathically,knowing your intentions, knowing your thoughts,
your pure intentions, and being openso people who aren't so documented in that

(44:45):
are open tend to have more ofthese types of phenomenon around them. And
it's not a one off. Thisis repeatable, happens over and over and
over again. I know they say, well, this isn't science. But
when you can repeat something in itsrespond to you and it seems to be
interacting intelligent, intelligently, then thatis something we can look at. You

(45:06):
know. Absolutely. What I foundreally interesting is that I these like,
for sure, go ahead, youcan say okay, yes, I don't
know. Can you say we're allwaiting? Okay, sorry? I You

(45:34):
know, what I'm really curious aboutis this communication that that you have.
I mean, this is gonna soundsstupid, but what's it feel like?
What's it? What's it like?How do you know and feel about it?
It's the purest way I've ever communicbesides talking to my little boy.

(45:59):
It is the purest feeling ever.It really is because there's nothing in between.
ILL have to read any line.You know, nobody's trying to get
over on anybody. It's just thisis what I want, this is what
I feel, and they either doit or they don't, and they care
and if I'm nervous. They backoff, which I found really interesting.

(46:22):
I didn't know that they would dothat. And then when I calmed down
after a few days, they cameback. So it's it's a caring,
loving with these that are around me. It's very loving. Do you get
a sense of who these beings are? Because we all know that there's different
types of beings that are being,you know, experienced by people. Do

(46:45):
you get a sense of who theseare that you're communicating with? You know?
I don't. I don't want tosay I know for sure, but
I know I had a dream that'shome. I said, you know,
what is all this? And thedream said M fifty six, And so

(47:05):
I woke up and I googled it, and then I found out about the
Pladians and and all that stuff.I didn't know about that, and so
I'm guessing it has something to dowith that. But I keep asking them,
I want to know who you are. I want to know how you
sound, what you really look like. And the thing is, I'm a
little fearful, So I'm trying toget over that so that they'll do it,

(47:30):
because they're not going to come ifI have fear They're not going to
come close. Bob's ready to getlike zoomed up and flying the ship by
pop. Yes, what I said, see you see very nice. It's
gonna have a suitcase packed. Afterthe show, I sit by the door

(47:52):
waiting for the Palladians. Now,it's interesting you mentioned the Pladians, and
you mentioned M what came to youin a dream and M fifty six,
and so that's the constellation of LyrasLyra. Okay, that's so interesting because
I too just learned of this myselfwith from our other guests. So the
fact and this is something that youhear about. Also a matter of fact,

(48:15):
there's a whole chapter in my bookabout it with doctor Leo Sprinkle's work,
and doctor Leo Sprinkle, for thosedon't know, as a pioneer in
the contact the abduction experience, andso many people wrote to him about oh
thank you for that's the book thereabout doctor Leo Sprinkle. And but there's
a chapter called dreams or Memories becausepeople say, look, this came to

(48:37):
me so vividly. It's like noother dream I've ever had in my life.
It seems so real, these beingswe're here and being told information you
know, even with Betty and Barneyhill Zey to rearticuli, the star map,
all this, I mean, soI find that really fascinating that And
we also know that the Palladians seemto be I'm not that I'm going to

(49:01):
put ets in certain groups like theseare looking out for the best interest of
humanities and these ones aren't. Butif we're going to be in a broad
term, broad sense, the Pladiansalways seem to land on that more we're
here to help humanity side of things. So I find that really interesting.
That's really cool. Go ahead,Katie, go ahead, No, go

(49:24):
ahead to her phone. No,I was just thinking about, you know,
your dad and your history with yourfamily, and you said you oh
negative blood, excuse me, Andso I was thinking about your genetics.
And I'm wondering what your thought ison genetics and our individual abilities to have
these sensitivities and these communications or theseknowings or these you know, whatever it

(49:49):
is that a lot of people haveand a lot of us experiencing things differently,
And I'm wondering if you have anyinsight on that. I don't know
much, but I I've read thata lot of own negatives are very psychic
and do have you know, maybewe've been created, maybe they created,

(50:13):
Maybe they messed with our DNA sothat we can sense more. I don't
know. I do feel that theymonitor us because we are a little different,
that's for sure, because why elsewould they put a chip in me
and hang out. You know there'ssomething I know, right, yeah,

(50:36):
right, but I want to knowmore about that. I don't know that
much about it. But because thisis all you know, I just used
to experience it. I never reallylooked into it. That's the one thing
with the aliens. They numbed me. I call it an alien xan X
because I would just go, Okay, it's weird because I usually have anxiety

(50:58):
and I would be so calm wheni'd have of experiences. Yeah, you
brought up some about your father too, when you guys witnessed those orbs that
he was sort of like, don'tsee them, don't care. I'm not
going to talk about this. AndI know Terry and Shane you've heard this
as well, that this is sortof this kind of weird. You can
have multiple experiences experiencers together witnessing somethingso unusual and as if it doesn't happen,

(51:24):
and it could go months or yearsbefore they even talk about it again,
as if they're taking an Echi's annexor a numbing or something like that.
So again something that we hear that'scommon. Maybe they're trying to protect
our brains from being completely overwhelmed andtrying to process what it is we're experiencing.

(51:45):
I don't know absolutely, well,oh yeah, yeah. There's a
good book I think it's by Nickredfern on Bloodlines of the Gods, that
talk about the RH negative factor.Now, I know this has been talked
about in ethological circles for decades,looking at that RH negative factor, and

(52:06):
in fact, on the moof Onquestionnaire, I don't always do it,
but I know there is a placethere where do you know your blood type?
And I'm not on the experience orteam? Are Shane? Are you
on the experience or team? Arethey still asking that question? Do you
know? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so this is something that's most people

(52:28):
don't know they're blood types. Butyeah, right, so I find that
interesting and and like you too,you look at different Irish descents in Irish
folklore, in the psychics, andI don't know if you have Irish descent
in you a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And to Terra's

(52:49):
point, I mean that is apiece of science that we can look at
genetics in that kind of way,and are there sensitivities in certain DNA that
others might not. I mean,I don't want to say they don't have
it, because everybody has the ability, I think, to be psychic and
to be tuned in. It's likea muscle. You have to exercise it,
be open to it, learn howto dial in the channel and use
it and work it. Would youagree with that, Laala that if people

(53:15):
wanted to communicate with the tease,what advice would you give them. We
have just a few minutes before break, but that would be a good way
to take us in a break.I would say, be patient, be
pure with your intent. You cantalk to them inside your head or outside
verbally. It makes you feel better. But sometimes it takes a day,

(53:36):
sometimes it takes a month. Butkeep try and keep asking and keep looking
up in the sky. That's thewhole. Like, just let yourself be
free and they will call love it, but make sure you say only the
good ones. Oh my god,I should say that kind of important,

(53:58):
right, No, that's not that'snot a joke. You really do have
to take some measures to protect yourself. And do you have any ways that
you ground yourself and protect yourself beforeyou start communicating. My dad always said
to surround yourself with the universal whitelight or protection. Just imagine it.
That's all you gotta do, really, just imagine it. And I like

(54:20):
to burn sage every once in awhile just to clear the energy out because
you just don't know what's coming around. But people like them. I have
a d D really best, soI can't meditate, but people like meditating
a lot, just simple things.It don't have to be very detailed or
in depth. Is something that makesyou comfortable, it'll work. Yeah,

(54:44):
I'm with you. We have thatin common. We both have ADHD.
So it can be a little hardto meditate, but I don't think that's
always necessary. You just I thinkyou said it brilliantly. You just clear
your mind, have positive, goodintentions. And to say intention, I
think intention has a lot to dowith the phenomenon in general. And I

(55:06):
think, just like Shane was saying, you you have to think of a
craft and then create it and produceit. And that is no different with
unusual experiences as well. You haveto accept it's there and almost invite it
in interact with you. That's stepnumber one. But you have to be
careful what you're inviting in. Now, you do have a website, I

(55:28):
think we have it is created abanner Lala bright lc dot com and so
you could go to Lala Bright's websitethere if you're interested in her psychic readings.
And you know, we will talkabout this more after break. And

(55:49):
I'm excited about a new segment startingtoday. Lala gets to be my first
victim flaw. It's a new littlesegment I have. It's called an Evening
with an Extraterrestrial. It's a littlegame we're going to play here on out
with all our guests. It's fivequick questions, So we will get to
that after the break as well.And I want to talk to you more
about your psychic side of things andhow you think that also interacts with the

(56:14):
et contact. Do they go handin hand? Did one lead to the
other? Which came first? Chickenand the egg kind of thing, So
more about that after the break.And one other quick question, are you
considering writing a book? Uh?Bob really wants me to and you know
it would be a really good bookbecause my life has been interesting. No,

(56:37):
I don't even think people believe it, honestly, well, I don't
know. I would just heard that. So book is coming from La La
right, Okay, I heard thatcoming through. Did you hear it too,
Tara? Yeah, you're committed.It just all came through right here

(56:58):
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Getting that boogie on it always brightensup my Tuesday night, you know.
Okay, I'm so excited about thisnew segment. Okay, an evening with
an extra restaurant. I made alittle graphic. Gotta share the graphic.
Okay, I like it. Thisis this is a new segment even with
an an evening on Earth. Let'ssuppose it by here, because my first
question for you, La La,is where on Earth would you want to

(01:01:15):
show an extra tressure? Where wouldthis special evening take place? Anyway?
I would like to go take themto Antarctica, actually, because we're not
allowed there and this would be agreat excuse. Like I have an ailing
with me. Have to let melook smart. That is a great answer

(01:01:37):
to kick off the segment an Arctica, and I'm assuming you're bringing your boots,
your gloves, your smart hopefully it'sindoors. Okay. So the next
question is what are we serving ofany food? What food would you like
the extra tressure real to taste.Well, I'm gonna get a free mail
of sushi and I'm gonna make itso wonderful so we can get extra sushi

(01:02:02):
there in the sky. They probablydon't have anything like it, so it's
got to be exciting for him,right, that's my excuse. Love it
again. That I myself. Ijust actually I was in Arizona Shane and
Tara with Stacy. Stacy took meto the sushi bar where all the sushi
comes on like on a conveyor belt. Just pull in the place. You

(01:02:24):
know where I sp Guys go tothe boot camp in Phoenix. If you
want to be a field investigator,you could go to this sushi bar with
us. The three of us willbe there. That was my first tribe
said, that is a very uniquechoice, very unique choice to the aliens
are gonna go sushi huh no,No, it was pretty good. Okay.

(01:02:46):
The next question for you, whatmusic or what song would you play
for the extra Terrestrial? I thinkI would play. It's the band called
Perfect Circle of a Perfect Circle,and the song is Gravity, and it's
about getting through your own little innerdemons and whatever they may be, and

(01:03:08):
going towards the sun, the light. Because I wonder do they suffer with
this in some sort of way themselves, you know? Or is it just
then watching us go through that?Right? You know what? I think
that answer will never be beaten.I think you just right now, I'm
giving you the blue ribbon the songbecause that's an excellent choice for an excellent

(01:03:32):
reason. I love that. Okay, And what movie would you recommend your
et person? I just saw Pope'sExorcist? Okay, oh, and that
was good. I want to knowdo they coexist with demons? Do they

(01:03:52):
have to deal at all with them? What are their feelings on it?
How do they handle it? Ijust want to know are they fear ful
like we are of them? I'minterested in that because they're they're both demons
are powerful, Aliens are powerful.How do they co exist? You know?
It's it's interesting that's that is aninteresting, interesting thought. And and

(01:04:16):
you said you just saw this movie? Is it in theaters right now?
I saw it on was a Hulu. It's it's you can just it's free,
you can watch it. I thinkit's been out for a little while.
Oh, i'ma have to check thatone out. Now. That's that's
it. Yeah, all right,checking out that movie. And then finally
the final question, And you startedanswered at this one, but I'm gonna

(01:04:40):
have you answer what question? Whatif you had one question to ask an
extraterrestrial what would it be? Iwould like to know. Is there some
type of universal law that keeps themfrom really interacting or even interfering with us?
Or do they choose to kind ofstep away and wait till we come

(01:05:03):
to them? Or the situations right? What happened? Did we used to
be more together and then we separated? That that's a really good question.
I ponder that a lot, andI think we all do, because I
think that's often the argument, right, Like same with the blurry videos and

(01:05:27):
the blurry photos, Like if theywere here, why don't they just say
hey? And if there's so manydifferent types, one of them surely will
break the rules, if there's auniversal rule or law and say nope,
here we are yah haha, orthey have a sense of humor. So
that's a really good question. Ithink that's something we all all wonder,
like, why are they holding back? Obviously we're getting glimpses and they're communicating

(01:05:53):
on some level. Right, Yeah, you know so very good that it
is a great all right, goodjob. You're very hard to beat.
So so, speaking of that,there's another video, La La that you
shared with us, and I kindof wanted you to set this up a

(01:06:14):
little bit because I looked at thisframe by frame and it has very highly
unusual I, for the life ofme, can't figure out what I'm looking
at in this video. It's theone that looks well, I'm not even
gonna explain it. You explain it. What this is? Is it the
one that comes out of water?Is that the one? The one that
comes out of the wall? Oh? That was interesting. I wasn't even

(01:06:40):
calling that to me that night atall. I kind of felt like it
was there to watch and monitor,which I've never felt quite like that before.
But this thing, and this wasprobably as big as a basketball or
larger. Okay, it wasn't tiny. It was outside, came out of

(01:07:01):
the wall on the front of thehouse, and it kind of and it
was really windy out. So thisthing was strong. And it had three
legs, but you only see twountil it turns and you see the third
one. And I think on eachleg the leg there's a like a soft
light. And so it comes outof the wall, it kind of turns

(01:07:23):
and then it goes around the houseand disappears, and it never came back
again. I don't know what itis, if something was in it,
or someone was controlling it to dothat, or it was I mean,
it wasn't a ghost. I reallydon't know what it was. But it
certainly wasn't a bug or anything,because it literally came out of the wall,

(01:07:45):
you know. And I have anothervideo I can send you another time.
But and I slowed it down.You can see every little movement.
It's very interesting. Okay, sookay, here we go, and then
an orb goes after it that Yeah, yeah, wow, that is so

(01:08:17):
strange looking. I mean, you'reright, I was slowing it down and
stopping it and looking and it's nota bug. It's not a bird.
And you said it just came rightout of the wall like that. Wow
huh. And and this sense unusualshape. It's almost like a mouth guard

(01:08:38):
shape blowing in the wind. Whatyou know, amiens teeth too. Maybe
maybe not. I'm sorry that tookme. I'm thinking boomeray, but you're
right sort I like it. That'sawesome. Let's talk a little bit about

(01:09:08):
the sense of being watched or monitored, La La if you, if you
will, kind of talk us aboutis this something that you said or what
are your feelings on that. I'vealways felt something watching me my whole life
all the time, and it mademe feel kind of crazy when I was

(01:09:30):
younger. I didn't really understand why, and I've always They've always kind of
I physically have seen them check inalso, so that's validation that I wasn't
crazy. I guess they like partof it. They want me to know
that they're always there. I don'treally not. I kind of think,

(01:09:55):
I know this sounds weird, butI kind of think I'm somehow a part
of them. I don't know.I don't know how to explain it.
I just I feel very drawn tothem and very connected to them, almost
more than other human beings. It'sreally strange. I know that sounds weird,
but it's just how I feel.Yeah. So maybe they're just saying,

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look, we're either we're they're checkingon their experiment, or they're saying,
hey, you're our friend, we'rechecking checking on you that way.
I don't know, but it's somethingstrange. While I do you do you
think like your experiences? Uh?You know, I have trouble putting this

(01:10:40):
together in my own mind. Butyou know there's the psychic side of you
and the and the experiencer side I'veconnected. Are always or are they sometimes
connected? Or are they not connected? You know? They is this different
experiences. I don't know what I'mgetting at. I'll just let your answer.

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I know what you're trying to say, Shane. I think I think
they're always connected by as, butat times, I you know, I
did experience them and I wasn't usingmy psychic abilities. I wasn't even thinking
about it. You know. Actually, every time I've ever seen them physically

(01:11:27):
a craft or an orb or whatever, I wasn't using my psychic abilities,
which is interesting. Yeah, SoI don't know what that's about. But
when I psychically talk to them,I feel more connected with. I feel

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more connected with the ones that respondto me when I'm psychically talking to them.
The ones that show up out ofthe blue, I feel like I
don't know them. That's it's nota warm, fuzzy feeling interesting. So,
so would you say that, youknow, you don't necessarily have to

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be psychic to have experiences, butyou can have both and maybe not the
same every time. It's so it'sa combination of things that you're experiencing,
I guess, is what I'm tryingto writ my head around. Because there's
people I've spoken to that aren't psychic, are choose not to use it or

(01:12:31):
don't know they have it, andthey've had quite a bit of experiences.
And I think it's just the beingsor aliens or wherever you want to call
them. I think they just pickcertain people to go after more. I
think they go after everybody. Honestly, I think everybody gets monitored in some

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sense, because I mean, there'sthey're up here and we're down here,
so obviously sleep. But I thinkthere are certain people they go after more.
Well, La La, you yourexperiences and like when Katie read your
short bio, but you had heardvoices calling you in a cemetery. Do
you still hear voices like that?I know you're calling people, but if

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you are hearing that, I've hadthat experience and it sounds like a real
person is just talking into my ear. And is that what you're experiencing?
And what can you share with usabout that? So that usually scares me.
So I tell them to only doit for emergencies. Now, usually

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they show me. I like seeingpictures and decoding what they mean. But
when I do hear it, itis like someone's just talking to me.
And I guess the last time Iheard that was my mom had just passed
away and I was really upset,and I was laying in bed and nobody
was around me, and I heardher in my ear say I'm with you,

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and and she was she must havebeen like right here. And so
I think that when they need todo it, they do it that way.
There's always a certain reason to helpyou. I believe it's to help
you. Now, if I'm ifI'm giving a reading to someone and I

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hear someone's name, it's more internal. I'll I won't hear it outside.
It's a knowing, right, Yeah, like I did a reading two days
ago, and the husband that pastkept saying John, but inside my mind
and and it was his son John, So they it's just a little different.

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I think emergencies are are something important. They'll say it out here.
Is there is there any tips youcan give people to kind of differentiate what
is your own thoughts and your ownvoice inside your mind? Because we all
have that inner dialogue mind tends tonever shut the heck up, I'm just

(01:15:10):
and turns into that. But isthere ways that we can discern, like
what is maybe someone a guide oran et or a past loved one that
has our best interest in heart thathas a message for us, or a
sign or a symbol, or likehey Katy, go that way, not
that way? You know? Arethere ways? Are there ways to kind

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of tell the difference. It's hard, especially if you doubt yourself a lot.
But I would suggest kind of tellingyourself to quiet down as much as
you can and slow your thoughts.And if that same word or feeling or

(01:15:56):
picture keeps coming, keep showing up, that's a message. They will keep
bugging you about it to get thepoint across. But it's hard. It's
it's hard to know what's you andwhat's not. I still struggle with that
when I'm doing a reading. SometimesI'll literally say the person, oh my
god, I thought it was crazy, but it's thank you for validating that

(01:16:19):
that was, you know, hisson's name, because I'm like, I
just you know, because it's it'sstill kind of weird because I was brought
up Catholic and my mom didn't wantme to be this way, and then
my dad was totally hippie into it. So I still battle with that,

(01:16:39):
you know, right right, Yeah, So just if it keeps showing if
the if it keeps showing up,it's it's usually a message and not your
thoughts. That's really cool. Yeah, that's a good point. So also,
I had a question about hearing yourmother's voice like that. I too
experience that with my dad's passing,and it was like he was sitting on

(01:17:03):
the foot of my bed like inthat almost like before you're going to sleep
kind of state. Was that thesame thing for you or was it like
just in the middle of the dayand she was right there. Are you
in a certain state of consciousness whenyou're better able to communicate with people that
have crossed over? For with thatinstance, I was laying in bed,

(01:17:25):
okay, getting ready for trying togo to I was kind of fall asleep,
but I was crying a lot too, So it is easy. I
think it's easier for them to communicatewith us when we're sleeping or falling asleep
because our ego is out of theway, so we can't go. It's
just I'm just making this up,you know. So they can really give

(01:17:48):
us messages to our higher selves,because with visitation dreams, we'll remember them
and and I believe that they try, we'll listen. Sometimes when people are
grieving, it's harder to get messages, so I don't if anybody's going through

(01:18:10):
that they will come eventually. It'snot because they don't care. It's just
because you're grieving, and sometimes it'sharder for them to come through because of
that. I just wanted to saythat, Yeah, no, that's an
important question because especially when you're doingpsychic readings. In psychic work, you
you're dealing with people that are goingthrough sometimes the hardest times of their lives

(01:18:34):
right there. They're grieving there.And I know for my sister and I
we kind of had and I feltuncomfortable about it because so what you just
describe, Lalla was exactly how myfather came and talked to me. It
was almost like I could feel himsit on the edge of my bed and
have this conversation with me. Itwas in his voice, and it's don't

(01:18:57):
it's hard to hear somebody's actual voicewhen you're just trying to imagine a voice.
But it was like he was happy. And then my sister's like,
well, he didn't come to me, you know that kind of thing.
And I'm like, well, thathe you know, And and I often
wonder and same like the ranch stuffthat seemed to affect me in different ways

(01:19:17):
than it did her. Not tosay she hasn't had anything happened to her.
She has just not to the level. And so I'm wondering if you
have any insight as to why maybesome deceased loved ones are easier to communicate
with than say others. Well,I would ask, are you a little

(01:19:40):
more psychic than she is? Aremore sensitive to that kind of thing?
For sure? That's a big thing. A lot of people that aren't open
to psychic stuff or don't. Iwould say she's more fearful of it.
Fear will that's it. Fear willmake things not happen, you won't.

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It's amazing that it will stop messagesfrom coming. I guess I don't really
know how to answer that, becausethat's you know, I think you answered
it brilliantly. I think, youknow, openness and having fear, and

(01:20:26):
she can be a little bit morefearful of it, and so I think
that took that goal. Yeah,yeah, it's not yeah, yeah,
I mean, it's kind of likejust any kind of communication, right,
you know that you know, weneed we need to be in the right
headspace to convey the right message andall those things, those feelings. But

(01:20:47):
I while I was I had seena little bit of an article of a
guy who had was indicating that there'sdifferent type of psychics and mediums, like
some seventy three different kinds or whatever, and it was talking about how some
you know, see things, somehere, some feel and you know,

(01:21:14):
there's uh some as like auto writingand just all these different types of I
guess it's just types of communication thattheir ability allows them to have, maybe
more strongly than others. But doyou have you ever given that thought,
what kind of where what type ofpsychic ability you have and and and how

(01:21:35):
you use it? I mean,do you consciously use it? Can you
turn it on? Turn it off? Or is it just random or how
does that work? I honestly,my whole life until recently, thought everybody
could see spirit here, spirit smellbecause I do a little bit of everything.

(01:21:57):
I don't do the writing, butI thought that was norm I really
did. I have a hard timeturning it off, and I get really
tired if I if I go tolike Walmart, I hate it because I'll
be so tired by the time I'mdone shopping, because I feel everybody and
I'll have these feelings that I'll getset or angry, are really happy,

(01:22:18):
and it's I'm like, what isgoing on? You know? But I'm
learning how to do that. Ihave to ground more. I forget to
protect myself all the time because I'mso excited about getting messages and I just
don't think about it. I'm likethe worst at that. Bob would be

(01:22:38):
like, did you did you cutoff and stop the reading and tell the
spirit to go? I'm like,oh my god, I forgot. They're
probably still here. So We've gotprobably got a hundred spirits in the house.
Oh my goodness, but I wantto. I think it's interesting about
the writing. I really I wishI could do that. It's fascinating.

(01:23:00):
I bet you can if you ifyou try, I bet I bet you
if he's just quiet down and Iknow, you know, like me,
it's hard to meditate a little bit, but you know, but it's an
act. Well you actually it mightreally work well with somebody who does have
ADD or ADHD because you're actively usingthe pen and paper, you know,
and and just like what is hisname, Tyler Henry. Maybe his technique

(01:23:25):
where he just he has a pieceof paper and he'll just scribble as he's
getting his reading, he'll just andhe gives the people the paper when he's
done, like frame that is fromTyler Henry, you know. But that's
how he channels. So you're right, shame people do that. And I

(01:23:45):
was curious about you mentioned you seein pictures and I can relate to that
as well. And it's also truethat you don't when you have something in
your whole life, you just assumeeverybody's wired, and Funk is the same
way you do. So you're you'reseeing, you're thinking that everybody goes to
Walmart and sees pictures in their headsand feels everybody. But that's not true,

(01:24:09):
and I really hope that. Andkudos to Bob for kind of getting
on you to to protect yourself andto set boundaries and to learn to unplug,
because that can take a toll onyour physical health, your mental health.
You're riding that emotional roller coaster allthe time, and it's really hard
to learn to discern what's yours andwhat's somebody else's, and you know,

(01:24:33):
keep that there. There's times whenyou do need to shut it up.
But I'm curious about if you cankind of explain the pictures in your head?
What that? What do you seeand how do you interpret that.
It's like the people that have passedor whatever energy being it might be,
is showing me a family photobook,and so they'll show me pictures of them

(01:24:57):
and certain things they did and whatthey wore. And sometimes I'll see a
name written out, and I'll showa picture of a name, and then
they'll tell me about the person I'mreading for, and then their friends that
are still alive, and it's neat, and they do it so that it's

(01:25:17):
easy for me to decode for themand if I don't know, I'll just
say, look, this is whatI'm seeing. I don't want to know
what it means. But those thismakes sense to you, and it's it's
really fun. I like it alot. But the one thing I wanted
to say, I read eyes.That's my main thing and my whole life.

(01:25:38):
I was terrified to look in people'seyes, like deep into people's eyes
because I thought they could see mysoul too. So I'll be in high
school, like, you know,yeah, and I was like, they
can't. They can't read you too. Relax. I'm like, oh,
okay, but la la. That'sa good point though, And Mike,

(01:26:00):
you the kind of discussion we're justtalking about is is I just realized recently
that I'm an impass and so I'vebeen going my whole life thinking that everybody
felt that, and walking into Walmart, I feel everybody's emotions when I walk
in there, and I thought theywere mine, and it's blowing my mind
that it wasn't me. And soit's you know, your whole life,

(01:26:21):
you think that everybody is like you. And so my question is, how
did you maneuver through, you know, being young and having these gifts and
did you share this with any friends? Did you have people that you could
really talk to and may not haveunderstood what was going on, but that
you could share these things with,because not many people have that. Mine

(01:26:45):
then was oh Mike, my spiritualteacher, when I would listen most of
the time like I'm okay, comeon, But I only had him to
talk to. I was too.I think I tried once or twice when
I was younger, and one timeI got beat up for I scared them,

(01:27:10):
I guess, and the other timethey picked on me, and then
a group picked on me and itterrified me. So I really kept it
to myself for quite a while.Now. I did have an issue with
almost losing jobs because I'd like tohelp people, and if I got a
message somewhere, I would just blurtit out, not knowing that maybe I
should wait and ask if they wantit, or not be in front of

(01:27:34):
the boss when I do it,you know. So I had to kind
of learn the hard way, whichmade me very quiet and very shy.
But I think a lot, likeyou said, a lot of people do
go through that, and I thinkit should be spoken about more somehow,

(01:27:56):
I guess. Even then, ifsomebody hears this, They're like, okay,
I'll not alone, you know,because it's it's depressing. It is.
Yeah, you mentioned you have ason, and I want to talk
about children because children are more,as we all know, are connected,
I think, closer to the otherside and extraterrestrials. And right now I'm

(01:28:21):
having really bad dejavuso. This iscrazy. But anyway, how do you
handle with your son? And doesyour sun show signs of having the same
gift and if so, how doyou maneuver that? And what do you
recommend people do with children that areyou know, seeing spirit or seeing et
or what do you recommend for thatfor parents? I know he has dreams

(01:28:48):
where they'll come true warning dreams.He one time when he was little,
he woke up screaming that a snakewas gonna get them, and we don't
have we didn't have snakes where Ilived at all, ever, And we're
that day we go in the backyardand this huge six foot black snake sleathers

(01:29:10):
by him and I go, ohmy god, Okay, he's got it
too, So I struggle with it. I want him so badly to have
a normal childhood that I don't bringit up that I didn't bring it up
that much at all, but nowthat he's older, I take time to
talk to him a little bit ata time. Paste it out, That's

(01:29:33):
what I would say. Paste itout, make it sound fun, don't
make it sound too overwhelming or indepth. Because they're little and you want
them to be happy about how beautifultheir gift is. And so I have

(01:29:53):
a thing where I want to protecthim from everything, you know, So
I guess it's just wait and kindof give them a little bit of information
and see how they handle it andthen go from there. I would say,
Yeah, it's good advice. It'svery good advice. Also, So
can you share with us, likeyou mentioned you after you know, you

(01:30:19):
went through these multiple losses in yourlife, that you finally came to a
decision where you were going to ownyour gift and share it with others.
Do you remember like your first actualreading and can you talk about trusting the
process and kind of walk us throughhow that happened for you, Lalla,

(01:30:39):
the first reading ever my whole life? Yeah, yeah, started, Yeah,
that's a good question. Let mesee, Okay, my neighbor,
Nada, she was probably a yearyounger than me, and I had never
met her grandmama. Her grandmama hadpassed, and I kept talk describing this

(01:31:01):
lady, this older lady, andsomething about a rainbow. And she showed
me. She brought out a picturebook and every picture with her grandmother had
a rainbow in it, either byaccident or on purpose. It was just
this weird thing that always happened andthat, and she was just like,

(01:31:25):
Oh, that's neat, wow,okay, But I didn't understand what was
going on. I was just like, because what what spirits do is they
go, I'm going to keep pushingthis information on you, and you have
to share it because if you don't, I'm going to just keep bothering you
with it. So that's why Iwould blurt things out like that makes sense.

(01:31:51):
I get a question or a comment. It's a little bit off,
But you know, I've watched thisshow for a couple of years called The
Dead Files. And if you're not, there's a psychic medium. Her name's
Amy. Yeah, okay, okay, So here I don't need to explain
more about that part, but here'shere's the thing I find fascinating. And

(01:32:13):
see if you've got some thoughts onit is? Were you guys a laughing
at might getting too excited? Soin all of the episodes, okay,
a family is you know, hauntedor whatever in their home and they come
in and they identify who it isand then they help find a resolution.

(01:32:35):
And you know, it ranges fromyou know, dead people and spirits to
elementals to demons to whatever, andand the solution they recommend always involves like
different people like maybe a reiki masteror a Catholic priest or a shaman or
you know, a Native American orsome sort of different, you know,

(01:32:58):
way of dealing with whatever the problemis there. However, after watching this
for years, have been three orfour cases where she's determined its aliens and
the solution is there is none.You're stuck with it. Maybe you can
get referred to a therapy group.That's it. That really startled me or

(01:33:18):
struck me that whatever the phenomena ormultiple phenomena are, I mean, they
must be different because some things workon some and other solutions work on other
things. So I mean, yougot any thoughts on that? Yeah,

(01:33:39):
or she'd tell them to move out, and a lot of these families couldn't
financially move out. Yeah, youknow, it was weird. I know
there are I mean, I've onlyhad one bad experience with an alien,
and you know, it's so hardto know what to do because most of

(01:34:00):
the times you don't even know thatthey're around and bothering you. You know,
it's very much like a spirit thatattaches I don't I would suggest going
to a psychic that can pick soI can pick up on aliens and spirits.

(01:34:25):
Find somebody like that that can feelit out and sense it and kind
of help with that and trace backif it was from where you live,
or did you do some things somewhereyou shouldn't have. Yeah, sometimes they're
just angry that maybe you picked upan artifact that you shouldn't have, you

(01:34:45):
know, So, I don't know. It's it's hard because none of this
is really talking. This is stillkind of new information coming out. Nobody
really knows exactly what to do.I say, just stage every breaking part
of your house and hope for thebest time. That's crazy. That is
great, Lola, with your expiritYeah, with your experiences, do you

(01:35:13):
find that these entities or these thingsyou have communication with half a spirit as
you would have known it from beingraised Catholic type of thing, or just
a sense of self and spirit.They feel more business type. It's it's
not very emotional at all. Ican I can definitely tell the spirits.

(01:35:34):
I feel everything. You know,what have you said? Whatever? With
them, it's very much, Andeven if it's kind, it's very much.
This is why we're here, thisis what we're doing. You know.
I had somebody asked me a reallygood question. I didn't know the
answer, but it was a goodquestion. They said, have you ever
come across a dead alien? Energy? Picked up on that, but that

(01:35:58):
got me sick and ken? Thencan they die? Do they? What
happens when they do? That wasreally interesting. I went down that rabbit
hole. I hope someday I couldfind out. I try to ask them
yes or no questions, and sothey'll do certain things for yes. It's

(01:36:18):
very interesting. I've I've videotaped that. So I just get so excited to
ask stupid questions. But share withshare with us some of your yeah,
some of your insights that you gleanedfrom them. I've asked if they were

(01:36:39):
what's the one alien? Oh,my god? From what's the from Egypt?
That everybody's afraid of, not thereptilians, the main ones, the
DraCos, the Ananaki, the Ananakinaki okay, and they first they were
flying all around and when I askedthat question, they completely appeared. It

(01:37:00):
was like I shouldn't even ask thatquestion at all. That was eerie.
So I don't know what that wasabout. But I'll ask, you know,
are you from here? Are youfrom another dimension? Just about them?
Really, But then my add goesoff and I'll go do something else
with them, So that sucks,but I'm learning, but it's interesting.

(01:37:25):
I do remember that I was thinking, should I not have asked the Anu
Nachi question? Because I get mixed. People tell me mixed things, something
that they're evil and something that they'rewonderful and powerful. So so broke just
a follow up to that then,So you're sensing the evil and but do
you sense any emotion with him evenin the business and no live or anything

(01:37:53):
like, I don't feel it.I can just it's a no, it's
not a feel. If that makessense, it does, so, but
do you get the one goad I'msorry, do you get a sense of
like male female, you know,young, old, you know, any

(01:38:15):
personality, like you know, Idon't know any kind of personality or I
don't feel the age ever, butI do feel if it's a male energy
or female, I feel more maleenergy. Actually very rarely do I feel
a female energy. And actually whenI feel the female energy, they're stronger.

(01:38:38):
They it's they're more take charge.The males will kind of skirt around
until I'm comfortable, and the femalesare like, we're coming in. This
is it? You know? Ifound that interesting. I don't know if
they have an age like we do, you know, hmm. Interesting.

(01:39:00):
And they've given you a sense ofthe mission. What are they doing here?
And will they ever reveal the truth? I mean, everything that's going
on right now with the hearings andthat. Have you talked to them about
that and what they think of it? I only know so they never have
given me a date or anything likethat. I only know that they're here

(01:39:24):
with certain people for soft disclosure,to kind of get people ready for something
that's coming soon. And yeah,within a few years something's coming. Now
it might be here, but it'sgonna be more out in the open.
That's the feeling they gave me.But they these want to do it gently,

(01:39:47):
so they'll tell certain people, andthen we tell people and we kind
of make it seem fun and interestingand not scary. So that's what they
want. They want to help usand us to help them. I just
don't yet, no, but I'mworking on finding that out. Actually,

(01:40:09):
that's fascinating. So in a sense, what you're saying is they probably then
for maybe millennia, if they alteredour DNA, they've been maybe you know,
seating the planet, and they're activelykind of getting okay, I mean,
I know it sounds funny, butkind of getting their image out there,

(01:40:29):
like in the movie Paul, likegetting people comfortable with the fact that
we're not the only game in town, right, And then they're they're picking
and choosing people or workers or starseeds, light workers, whatever you'd like
to call them, to kind ofdo the work that you're doing, La
La and others are doing so whenthey do come and I have heard it

(01:40:50):
from others, not just you,that we're looking at a shortened timeline here
that something is going to happen.And do you believe that that there's people
in the know within our government militaryindustrial complex that are aware of this timeline
and do you believe that that's what'shappening now with this rolling out? Absolutely,

(01:41:14):
I one hundreds believe that if theydidn't have to give us little pieces
of truth, they wouldn't. There'sa reason they're doing this. I think
they don't want total chaos when thishappens, so they're trying to eat I
think one no mus to it.And because people don't respond the way I

(01:41:36):
thought people would, they almost actas you know, it's like, okay,
whatever. And because they do thislittle dance, they'll tell us something
about aliens and then something magically willhappen where we're looking over here, right.
Yeah, So we're not fully worriedabout the aliens. It's it's it's

(01:41:56):
they're smart in their own messed upway. But I feel they know.
I feel they know a lot more, and I feel they can't control whatever's
coming, and they that's what they'rescared of. M what's said, Yeah,
did you have a question, Shane? No, I'm just kind of

(01:42:21):
that that's very profound, and youknow me as kind of the nuts and
bolts guy, you know, physicalmaterial type emphasis that I think the real
truth of the matter, or thethe real information is really on this side

(01:42:44):
of it, the you know,the contacty, the psychic, the you
know, experiencers side of it.That's where the information is. And yeah,
I think I think if you talkto anybody just in the world in
general, not even related to ufologyor anything, is people have a sense

(01:43:08):
or of feeling that something is goingto happen right, just seems to permeate,
you know, human society. Soyou know, I'm really paying attention
to that, and you know,follow what you've been saying and looking for
a kind of clues enhance too.I think just most people get it.

(01:43:30):
There's some undercurrent, there's some somethingthere, and you know, we're all
just trying to figure that out.I have a question about crafts real quick,
if I could ask. I've gottensome pictures of crafts in the backyard,
and I've noticed two crafts so far. Have they The crafts didn't look

(01:43:54):
alike, they look very different,but they all they both had this light
ball attached to this I guess itwas maybe a metal arm and then a
ball of light. Did you senda photo of one of those? I
did, yes, Okay, Ididn't send a photo of the other UFO
with the ball of light. ButI did send a ufox picture that came

(01:44:17):
back on different occasions at different angles, So I thought that was cool.
Is that this one here? Yeah, so if you'll see it easier on
the bottom one, you see thatlittle ball at the very bottom, not
that one. Oh yeah that sorry. Wow. So this is the same

(01:44:38):
craft, different angle, different nights, and this, yeah, it's awesome.
But another craft came and it hadthat ball, and I was one
of you guys knew anything about thatbecause it's interesting. Well, I haven't
seen anything quite like this, butI have seen the balls, you know,

(01:45:00):
the more balls, the light ball. It was like the case of
the week this week. These swarmsthat appear to have independent propulsions. These
are not all floating with the windcurrent. These seem like to have direction
to them, shooting off different ways. But those are very unusual photographs.
And you said you physically see thesewith your eyes too, or was it

(01:45:25):
just captured on film or so Iwas calling them to me and I saw
flash in the video and I zoomedit because this was up in the star,
so I zoomed in and that's whatI found, and I said,
I'd like to know more about youcould you come back again, and I
think maybe a month later, acouple of weeks later, it came back

(01:45:47):
a different angle and same way.It was a flash. We wouldn't be
able it was so far away wewouldn't be able to see it with our
own eyes. But the other onethat had the ball, it showed up
during the day, which was interesting, and it even had a little bit

(01:46:08):
of purple attached to it, whichI've never seen before. But it didn't.
It flashed and it disappeared, soit never came back again. But
it was very interesting. That isso fascinating. And that second image,
Tariff, you could put that up. It almost looks like a question mark.

(01:46:30):
Yeah, yeah, can you talkabout that image? I always threw
that. I had a feeling thatit was something, but I almost threw
it out and didn't show anything ofit to anybody. And somebody on Facebook
said, another UFO person got thatsame craft like a year prior, and

(01:46:53):
I looked at the person's page,it's the same thing. I couldn't believe
it. So this was also anotherflash in the stars. Is it that
mouthguard that was flying earlier? Hey, you're on just something right there?
Kind of resembles that. I mean, you wonder and to me, and

(01:47:14):
I know Bob's bearing our own Bob, he has really has done a deep
dive into the orange orb phenomena.And these orange orbs are seen in different
sizes, from these small balls oflight to these ginormous balls, and I
am just fascinating. I experienced theblue orb years ago in my bedroom very

(01:47:38):
much felt like a monitoring device,and I'm wondering if it isn't something like
that some probes or monitoring or maybethey're picking up energy or interacting through energy,
But it very much feels just likeballs of energy light, right And
I know, I know there's peoplethat have argued, you know, different

(01:48:00):
types of like earthquake lights or naturalphenomenon, but these are these are not
swamp gas. I mean there's somethingmore to this, right exactly. Yeah,
that's fascinating. Yeah. There wasthe that case in nineteen ninety Do
you guys remember that big case wherethe triangles really got popular in Belgium And

(01:48:26):
there's a picture out there John,you know of that triangle. Well,
one of the things that people reportedand these things were really low to the
ground and very large, but theywould send out an orb in that case,
I think it was a red orband they literally watched it detach off
the bottom of the craft, goout, zoom around, do some things,

(01:48:51):
poke around and then come back andkind of like redoc. So to
me, that's very probe like right, and verical. But again that's very
physical. You know, UFO,you know nuts and bolts thing, but
that I've seen that, you gotto think they're they're like probes, right.

(01:49:13):
You hear that with crop circles,and you've also heard those same type
of things reported around animal mutilations.Can I share one thing real quick,
please, I've seen the red orbsflying out of I guess a mothership baby,
I don't know. But I wasparked getting coffee with a friend.
It started to freak us out,so we left and I started driving home,

(01:49:38):
and that's when it was night time. A helicopter put its spotlight on
a big cloud and I saw theunderbelly of this thing and it looked like
pipes. It was black metal,huge and looked like pipes intertwining with each
other. And the pipe pipes wereso large they were as wide as the
body of the helicopter. I mean, this thing was massive, and it

(01:50:00):
was in Baltimore a couple of weeks, just a few years ago. And
I don't remember driving home nothing,but I remember the detail of that craft.
I will never forget it. Itwas amazing. Is this the craft
that had the red light under it? It was shooting these I thought they
were fireballs at first, right,but they kept shooting the red orbs out

(01:50:25):
and interesting. Yeah, I meanthey weren't that big, you know.
But I was like, I don'twant to die tonight. I just want
to dunkin donuts. So we're goinghome. How did your how did your
friend react to this? And doyou believe that there was like a missing
time incident there? And how didyour friend respond to all this at the

(01:50:46):
time? She was scared. Tothis day she says she doesn't remember any
of it, that it never happened. Well, and yeah, it's weird,
la la. Do you ever keepjournals or notebooks about your experiences just
in case you don't remember or yougo back on any of them? Do
ever do that? But I should? I should do that. Someone told

(01:51:10):
me that recently. So that's asign that I need to, especially for
dreams too. Yes, do youdo that? I do? I take
Greg shorthand, so I can doautomatic writing and I can just write really
quickly with shorthand, and when Igo back later, I have no recollection
of stuff I put down. Soit's just a matter of meditating and just

(01:51:32):
letting go. And you know,I think everybody can do that, but
it's very it's very therapeutic just towrite it down or share it somehow,
even if it's a piece of paper. So that's true. I should because
some of the things I've experienced arecrazy. They can go in your book
all these things. Yes, Iknow, Bob's like, you're doing it

(01:51:54):
now. They said it. Youhave to do it, that's right,
so I will. Yeah, it'strue because our memories are funny and there
are certain details that will our brainswill focus on certain aspects of a memory
and forget other parts of it.So I think too, and that's good
for any of our listeners too.I mean, whether it's paranormal or UFO,

(01:52:16):
whatever related, if it's unusual ordream even right down the date,
the time, exactly what happened tothe best of your memory, because our
memories like to trick us. Thishas been a fascinating hour here and I
just want to kind of go backto the paranormal side of things, because,
especially with the high strangeness cases canwalk a ranch and things like that,

(01:52:40):
you often hear people that have extraterrestrialcontact or that will have paranormal or
electromagnetic kind of frequencies happen in theirhouse. TV's going on and off lights.
Have you experienced any of that pultrgeist kind of activity, and if
so, what we have a lotof It sounds like a radio changing channels.

(01:53:05):
It's it's strange. We picked thatup a lot with our our videos.
We've gotten e vps, We've gottenlights turning on an awful lot,
knocking. We've heard knocking on walls. So it's it's it's a little bit

(01:53:28):
of everything, not to the pointwhere we want to move out, but
it's definitely active. Absolutely cool.Shane, did you have a question?
I think you did right. I'mgood. I mean I did not,
but I'm still kind of from theother stuff. I get my head around,

(01:53:54):
why do you think there's so muchof that activity that happens, Oh,
the paranormal active electromagnetic effects, Idon't know. I think that's something
we're all trying to figure out.But I definitely, especially you know,
I compartmentalize a lot like you havedone too, La La, where we

(01:54:17):
want to put all these different phenomenainto different boxes and call them by different
names. And the more I readand the more I research, the more
I kind of coming to understand thatthey're all linked hand in hand, and
so it's it's not uncommon. AndShane would know two and Tara from talking

(01:54:41):
to experiencers that this is a phenomenon. And maybe it's as simple as what
you mentioned, La La, isthat you know, once you open that
box and you start interacting with it, it kind of invites the other things
to kind of tag along, soto speak. You know those Yeah,
yeah, so I find that interestingand I wanted to ask too before we

(01:55:04):
leave. Are their spirits, bothwhether they're deceased loved ones or even extraterrestrials
that are kind of earthbound that Iwould say, on the extraterrestrial side of
things that are here for a missionor a task, maybe, like you
said, they're kind of more serious. They're here to do a job,

(01:55:24):
but are they earthbound here until theyfinished their job? And that's true with
the spirits as well, you know, like for my dad and my brother,
both that are deceased. Could theybe stuck here or they can they
come and go? I mean,how does that kind of work. We
only have a couple of minutes left, unfortunately. But I think with spirits,
if it was something traumatic, theycould be maybe confused and earth bound

(01:55:48):
for a while, or they decideto be your guard guardian or protector.
They I think they choose to beearthbound sometimes with the aliens, I honestly
think they can just go and portalsand go back and forth. I mean,
I've seen it, I've gotten picturesof it. I think that's their

(01:56:09):
doorway to hear I do. Thatmakes a lot of sense. That makes
a lot of sense. Well,I want to thank you for being here
with us tonight. It's been apleasure having you and very insightful and you've
given us a lot to think about. And I know I'm going to leave
here and try to do some newtechniques and really open that channel back up,

(01:56:30):
try and communicate, because I thinkwe all share that where we can
have a dialogue and I you know, and it's something very personal to each
and every one of us, butit's an important piece of this UFO puzzle.
So thank you Lula for being ourguest tonight. It's been a pleasure
having you here. Thank you Tara, and thank you Shane, thank you
Bill Skywatcher, and we hope you'reon the mend. We're thinking about you

(01:56:51):
all the time and we hope tosee you guys all back next Tuesday night.
So have a good night, everybody, have a good rest of your
year. We take care
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