68 - Close Enough to See Dick Mole (S9E15 Undercover) - Munch My Benson: A Law & Order: SVU Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I developed your prison persona based on a behavioral analysis
of inmate profiles at seal View.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I've been using drugs since I was thirteen and then
started muling to support.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
I have a prescription pills mostly, but you won't say
no to the hard stuff.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
What's my name, Katrina ray Lewis I hereby sentence you
for five years at seal View Correctional Facility.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
You're not a recreational user. You're a hardcore drug addict
facing withdrawal. You won't survive unless you get your hands
on some pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Movie ladies, single file, hands at your waist at all times.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Abusive father, abusive husband, just like all the other inmates,
your target for abuse. Every man's punching back.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Would you close in the basket and then hand them
to the office.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
This will be a full body and cavity search.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
You'll have no privacy. You will shower, sleep, dress, and
use the toilet in full view of other people. At
times you will feel humiliated and debraded.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Thirty seconds, pish it up.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
You're going to see things you want to stop with
every fiber of your being.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
As guts wall spread ups.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
But you can't react.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Ever. Oh, someone's been working out. Don't you touch me
like that?

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Enough?

Speaker 7 (02:24):
Already in New York City, sexually based offenses are considered

(02:50):
especially heinous these other stories.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Hey guys, welcome to a munch My Benson. My name
is Adam. I am here in New York City. I
am joined on the line by Josh. How's it going
in the basement?

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Josh, it's going. I had a had a pretty hectic
July that I just got out of.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, you had an eventful couple of weeks, right, First off,
happy birthday. I hadn't wished you a happy birthday yet.
I wanted to save it for the audience so they
can hear it. I think a week or so.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, so a week, yeah, a week from today. Yeah,
it's it's kind of scary to be, uh, recording an
episode that we have to release in less than a week.
We have enough time, suboptimal, it.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Happens, you know. The other stuff go the the I
know you were working on a film project. How'd that go? Well?

Speaker 4 (03:59):
I haven't been able to start editing it yet. Yeah, so, uh,
you know, I guess the proof will be in the
pudding as once I started fucking. Once I start working
on that pretty much all of the time that I,
you know, could conceivably have been doing that was spent

(04:20):
traveling because we had to shoot that thing in Austin.
But for the month of July, I was I think
I was home five days between the fifth and the
thirty first.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Were you in, like in a cabin in the woods
somewhere for the last week.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, there was a merman who was trying to kill us. Now, uh,
we we were up We were up north in sort
of like an hour north of Brainerd. Would you call
the movie Fargo.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Starts like Lake and the Woods, did you?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah? It was about it's just a couple miles south
of where the Chipwall National Forests start, So it's you know,
literally a lake in the woods.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
So you couldn't like dangle your feet in the water
and contemplate fleeing to Canada and giving up everything you'd
known in the past, could you?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
It wasn't that close to Canada.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's too bad. I just picture of my mind, you
kind of on a Tim O'Brien esque adventure to the
to the border.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Have you read in the Lake of the Woods.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Isn't that what am I am? I thinking of?

Speaker 1 (05:25):
That?

Speaker 4 (05:25):
That's that's the murder mystery.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
That's the murder mystery I'm thinking of. I think one
of the vignettes from the things they carried, but maybe not.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yeah, I think you are. But yeah, it wasn't. I mean,
you know, you like every day that thought crosses my mind. Yeah,
just trying to go to Canada and I mean this
country behind.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, Canada is great, man. I have nothing but good
experiences in the Great White North.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
YEP. Take us in Canada.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
So, speaking of murder mysteries, you know, I've been consuming
a lot of media here. I'll save some of it
for the next one. But so I watched I watched
Knives Out a couple of nights ago, which was a
lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Fun.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I mean I
think maybe I had heard so many great things about
it that I was maybe expecting a little bit. I
don't know. I wouldn't say that it was bad anyway,
but it just it was. I think it would look
like a lot of fun to make. It was fun
to watch. It was filmed really close to the town
I grew up in. Actually, so for the car chase scene,

(06:34):
I thought for a second it might have been Winchester, Massachusetts,
which is where I lived until I was ten years old.
But it was not. It was some other town. That's
that's you know, old and in Massachusetts. I can't remember
it's It wasn't Waltham. They did shoot in Waltham, but whatever. Anyways,
I enjoyed it a lot. I thought Daniel Craig's New

(06:59):
World Orland's accent was hilarious. Yeah, it was fun. I've
also been watching quite a bit of Diagnosis Murder recently.
Jesus Christ, I would say that I've firmly in the
Barry van Dyke fan club right now. I haven't actually
finished an episode of Diagnosis Murder, but so I don't

(07:21):
know how how are you figure out?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
How are you watching episodes of Diagnosis Murder and not
actually finishing them?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, because it's the kind of thing you watch when
you're falling asleep, and at a certain point it's like,
I honestly don't care how Mark and Steve Sloane, you know,
figure out a way to solve this this impenetrable crime.
But what I did see, Josh, is I saw a

(07:49):
episode that featured manchalum Rick i ell O, which I
thought was fun as the he was. I believe he
was the shitty husband that owned that Irish pub in
Choice Yeah, exactly in Choice Yeah, and he was he
was Ricky Iyello in this one, and it looked like
we were going to really think he was the the

(08:12):
killer in this one where there was like a sexy doctor,
sexy surgeon who gets off. But I think it was
probably her creepy bald apartment super So that's that's where
I was going. I don't know, It's hard to figure out,
because of course I never finished it, so who the
fuck knows.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Anyways, I'm sure all of the podcast listeners are going
to seek out that episode of Diagnosis Murder and also
fall asleep while watching.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, let me tell you, guys, it is a lot
of fun. Dick van Dyke is a star, so don't
don't talk too much shit. If you watch Knives Out,
they're explicit references to shows like that. They're even watching murder,
she wrote at one point in it, and this is
definitely in that MILIU. Now, the reasons why the Dick
Vandyke character is allowed to investigate these murders makes zero

(09:03):
sense at all. He's a fucking doctor who has no appointments.
That's that's what his kill.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Like a medical doctor, right, not a not like an
emmy or anything.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
No, he's not an emmy, like one of his proteges
eventually becomes an emmy, which also doesn't make sense because
he's just like he's like a like a hospitalist who
has residence. He like teaches residents. That's that's what he does.
But for some reason, he never has appointments. He doesn't
have surgeries, he's not doing any medical work. He just
walks around the hospital fuck and then starts solving crimes.

(09:34):
And his son is Barry van Dyke.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
The U is Jerry van Dyke in at.

Speaker 8 (09:39):
All, No, no Jerry, just Barry.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay. So I feel like we.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Have talked a lot about diagnosis murder and we have
an episode to talk about.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I could talk so much more about it, but we
do have an episode to talk about, and specifically an
episode with a fuck load of blood in it. We
are in a stretch of very different svus. We are
not getting the uh, you know, card murder investigation court case.

(10:32):
That's not what we're getting these days.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
We're getting and spoiler alert, the next one, which we
are recording after this not even close. Also not even
close to a normal episode.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, all right, so let's just fire up the recap.
A crazed, toothless older man wielding a machete is stalking
his prey in the woods at night, when a visibly
terrified rookie cop confronts him and finds a batter and
raped sixteen year old girl in the woods nearby. Sadly

(11:04):
for the rookie, old cyrus vert was out hunting vermin,
not co Ed's. Sadly for Benson, the victim, Ashley Tyler,
is not interested in helping the investigation. First, she trashes
the ambulance and needs to be sedated. Then, when she
wakes up, she refuses to give a statement or release
her rape kit, and her foster parents firmly ask Benson

(11:26):
to leave. Munch and Finn had a little more luck
finding some background on Ashley. Her mother, Resa, is in
the middle of a twelve year stint at Seal View
Prison on a drug wrap. Her father's been gone since
long before Ashley was born, so Ashley had been living
with her uncle Rick in Brooklyn until a zealous ACS
worker found Ashley sleeping in bed with her uncle and

(11:49):
placed her in foster care. Benson and Staylor find Rick's
door unlocked while he's singing in the shower. Taking advantage
of the situation, they perform a quick warrantless search of
the press misses and find a bottle of oxyconton and
a massive stash of weed before opening the shower curtain,
admiring little Ricky and taking Rick in for questioning Rick

(12:11):
as it soon becomes clear as a stand up dude. Yes,
he occasionally sleeps naked next to his teen niece, and
sure it was his two kilos of pot that Reesa
was busted with, but he's fighting to make things right
and take care of his niece. Stabler eventually coaxes the
dope out of Rick and learns that one of the
prison guards at Seal V was using Reesa as a

(12:31):
go between to procure Rick's pot to deal to the inmates.
When Rick quit dealing in a bid to win back Ashley,
the guard raped Ashley in retaliation. The problem for SVU
is that neither Rick nor Ashley knew the guard's name,
nor had they seen his face. So Ashley eventually agrees
to release the findings from a rape kit to Benson,

(12:54):
but also tells them that her mother, Resa is being
raped repeatedly by this guard and others and has no
one to protect her. Inside seal View, things go tits
up immediately, as some unknown comp took the rape kit
results from the hospital before Benson and Stabler could get
to them. Predictably, the badge was a Bureau of Corrections

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badge with a retired number, so not only is the
unit no closer to catching the rapist, he presumably knows
that Ashley was cooperating with SVU, putting Reesa in grave
danger inside. So Elliott cooks up a rare, non bespectacled
disguise and meets with rape Reesa, claiming to be her lawyer.

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The interview doesn't last long, as Resa was not that
happy to be there, and the guards come and take
her out almost immediately because they searched her room and
found contra band including drugs and a shive, and she
has taken away to the hull. Elliott talks to the
clueless warden, who wants to help but cannot imagine how

(13:57):
guards in her prison could be smuggling drug committing rape
and guess what happens next The word about Elliot's little
escapade got out and Resa was thrown into solitary confinement.
Ashley is apoplectic and tells Benson about the near constant
sexual abuse and torture Reesa is experienced on the inside.
Olivia feels so bad about everything that she cooks an

(14:20):
even coogier undercover scheme. She's going undercover in prison without
anybody in the prison in the loop. Things are about
to get nuts. George Wong then whips up a psychological profile,
and before we know it, Benson is in dinghy clothes
pretending to be a hard drug abusing Katrina ray Lewis.

(14:40):
Benson is shackled in processed like all the other inmates.
She is strip searched and forced to take a very
cold and very public shower. Then, when she objects to
being groped by a lecherous corrections officer another CEO who
just happens to be a newly on the job as
a guard, Finn throws her to the ground and hits
convincingly hard with his nightstick. A mustachioed prison guard Commanding

(15:05):
Officer Captain Lowell Harris clearly appreciates Finn's violence and lack
of respect for the inmates, but tells him to tone
it down because this isn't Riker's. Benson's taken to the infirmary,
where she sees the corpse of Reesa Tyler, who had
apparently hung herself. Ashley understandably blames Elliott for her mother's death,

(15:26):
which Emmy Warner determines was almost certainly a murder stage
to look like a suicide due to Reesa's fractured hyode
Boyne and the unnatural placement of the noose. Sadly, the
Westerville County Medical Examiner is unwilling to reopen Reesa's case,
so the only way this rapist is going to be
caught is inside Seal View itself. Benson makes a new friend, Shauna,

(15:49):
who gives her a lowdown on how to score by
showing skin and flirting with the guards. The guard who
groped her during intake, Matthew Parker, clearly as a gross
thing for Benson, so Munch and Lake do a little
digging on his financials and uncover a big money porn habit.
Before they can get an ID from Ashley, though, they

(16:10):
discover that she's been hospitalized with a potentially deadly multi
drug resistant strain of TB, which she'd probably contracted from
the guard who raped her. This means Benson will be
locked inside a prison for at least three days with
a craze disease above the law prison guard while the
CDC determines the outbreak of the TB outbreak inside. If

(16:31):
only the CDC was this prompt at responding to actual
disease house breaks inside actual prisons, maybe we wouldn't be
in the situation we're in today. The situation inside is
getting a little testy. While taking Benson away for a
quick sexual assault session, Coo Parker manages to incite a
full on riot, for which Benson is obviously blamed. She

(16:54):
is taken away by that mustachioed Captain Harris, but instead
of taking her to the Hole and Sea block, he
takes make sure to the prison rape dungeon and immediately
gets down to business, which in this case is rape
and torture. Though Live never stops screaming for help and
never stops fighting back, Harris decides it's a good idea
to take off her cuffs and is instantly rewarded with

(17:15):
an elbow to the face, which gives Live time to run.
Of course, there's no escape from this rape dungeon, so
she does her best to hide while the statistic Captain
Herod searches for her. Upstairs, Finn gets tired of waiting
for a TV test and runs off to grab Liv's
friend Shanna for what she thinks is a little, at
least somewhat consensual flatbacking session. She agrees to guide him

(17:38):
somewhere where they can have a little privacy. Back downstairs,
Live has been found by Harris and cuffed to a door.
Harris unbuckles his pants and prepares to rape her orally
when Finn finally rushes in and identifies both himself and
Benson as cops. Harris, though, is quickly released from police
custody since Ashley's TV's train came not from the prison

(18:00):
but from the group home she'd been sent to when
she was taken away from her uncle, thankfully for the
cause of justice. Benson and Ashley are much better acquainted
with a part of Captain Harris's anatomy than either of
them would like, and Ashley finally agrees to identify a
distinguishing mole on his wing, which is enough to lock
him up. Elliott and Warner both make some lighthearted Dick

(18:22):
jokes at Harris's expense, and we are left with a
if SVU had just done their jobs better in the
initial investigation, then Benson wouldn't have nearly been raped, Dick Wolf.
But you want to start with the guest, we can
go through the guests quick. Yeah, there's a few. There's
more in this than I thought when I first looked
at the list. There were more than I was kind

(18:43):
of interested in, mostly because of the wire connections, I guess,
but still.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Of which there are a few. Yeah, okay, So I'm
going to start with the Shriika Epps. He's playing Ashley
Tyler's the She's the teen victim found in the Cold Open.
She was born in Brooklyn. She won an Independent Spirit
Award for Best Female Lead and Half Nelson That The.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
That was the That's Cracksmoking substitute teacher film.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
If you guys don't know, Yeah, yeah, starring Ryan Gosling. Yeah,
that sort of put him on the critical you know,
the critical Darling. Yes, really good, really good movie.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
She took off time from acting in twenty thirteen to
focus on schooling, but it looks like she's sort of
back at it. She did spoken word vocals on two
tracks on Ryan Gosling's band's eponymous debut, Interesting dead Man's Bones.
And she was the only other credit that I was

(19:45):
interested in was she was in Brett Gellman's Dinner in America.
I don't know about that is It's a really uncomfortable,
really uncomfortable. It's on Adult Swim, so if you have
access to Adult Swim you can watch it there. I've
seen it. He He basically plays a dumb white guy

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and has a panel of black actors for dinner, and
they they talk about race, but Brett Gellman is predictably
awful as the white guy, and so it starts badly
and worse. Yes, it's really fun, but if you like.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
If you are in on the joke, probably right.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, if you're into terribly awkward comedy. Yeah. So next up,
we've got Hassan Johnson. He was playing Rick Tyler YEP,
Motherfucking we Bay Webee Brice from the wire So Shared
Universe Brain Melter. He was also in Clockers, Belly and Newlyweeds,

(20:58):
which AM actually sort of interested in. That was an
earlier Shaka King joint. I saw clocking directed Black Judas
in The Black Messiah.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Saw Clockers The Theater.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Nice.

Speaker 8 (21:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Nice. He was also main cast in the new Showtime
show Flatbush Misdemeanors. This is his second appearance on SVU.
He was also in two epps of the original series.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, I love how Son Johnson. I think he's great.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Oh yeah, Web is one of my favorite characters.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Then, staying with the wire, We've got Melanie Nichols. King
was playing Jill Botos, the foster Mother. She's from Toronto.
She was in forty one episodes of Rookie Blue. She's recurring.
She had recurring parts in Filth City, Little Fires, Everywhere,
Show Me a Hero, Veep, Orphan Black, Goosebumps, and Highlander

(21:52):
The Raven.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
She was Keema Gregg's irritation.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
She was, most importantly for our purposes, came a Greggs's
old lady, Cheryl.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, her irritating Normie wife.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Her Norman lawyer wife.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
And she was in another episode of SVU.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Then we've got motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
I thought, God damn it. Probably Johnny Mesner. Is that
who you got next?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
That's who I have next? Yeah, next up, I've got
Johnny Messner, who's playing Captain Lowell Harris, who's born in Syracuse,
raised in Newburyport, mass He went to college in San Diego.
He worked as a personal assistant to producer and Night
Eyes star Andrew stevens Uh. He has twin boys with

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Catherine Morris, the star of Cold Case, with whom he
at least appears to still be in a relationship. He
was also in Spartan, Hostage, The Whole ten Yard, Tears
of the Sun, and Running Scared. He had recurring parts
on Cold Case, Jane the Virgin, and The OC and

(23:09):
he voiced Flint in g I Joe Renegades. And when
you listen to him, that makes sense because he's got
that deep, manly voice.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah yeah, I can see that. He seems to play
those parts.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
A lot, uh yeah, a lot of soldiers. Then moving
down the the corrections officer line, we've got Todd Stashwick.
He's playing Matthew Parker. He's a Chicago guy. He went

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to Illinois State and did improv at Second City, where
he was in the National Touring Company. He moved to
New York in the early nineties and formed Burn Manhattan
like a sort of an improv group. I guess with
Kate Walsh and Jeremy Piven, among others. He was in

(24:05):
the rotation of comedic performers on Conan in the late nineties.
He has guest parts in virtually every show of the
last twenty five years. He has one hundred and twenty
seven credits since nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Including Diagnosis, Murder, FYI Sure.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
He was main cast and the riches in Twelve Monkeys,
the twelve Monkey series, not the movie, and he's had
recurring parts on CURBYR, Enthusiasm, Heroes, Men of a Certain Age,
The Originals, and Justified. Then moving down the line, we've
got Matthew Cole's or Cowls, who's playing Cyrus Wirt. He

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was born in New York. He was married to Christine
Baranski from October of nineteen eighty three to his death
in May of twenty fourteen from congestive heart failure. They
raised their daughters in Connecticut without tell because they objected
to violence and the sexual content of programs, which is
ironic given the fact that he's in this episode. He

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also he also played a recurring pimp role on All
My Children, which is apparently a very colorful part, and
he was doing that back in like nineteen seventy seven,
and he's bounced back. He bounced back a couple times
into it, popping up here and there, but up until
twenty thirteen, so.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
He was in slap Shot. He was, and he also.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Popped up in Money Pit, Slap Shot the World. According
to Garp, The Happy Hooker and the Friends of Eddie Coyle,
he appeared in different roles in the original series and
Trial by Jury, and also popped up in Homicide, making
this a yeah yeah. Moving down the line, we've got

(25:54):
lush Onse. I believe is how her name would be pronounced,
but I'm not sure she's playing Amber. She took her
stage name from the creole for The Charmed One. She
has been nominated for three Tony's Yeah for the first
one was in nineteen ninety one for Best Featured Actress

(26:14):
in a Musical for the Play On This or Sorry
Once on This Island. Then she won a Tony in
two thousand and six for Best Lead Actor in a
Musical for The Color Purple, which I did not know
there was a color purple musical, and that seems super
weird to me. Then she was also nominated in twenty

(26:36):
eighteen for Best Lead in a musical for Summer, The
Donner Summer Musical. She won an Emmy for Outstanding Achievement
for Individual Excellence on Camera Programming Performer for Handel's Messiah
Rocks Moving to Things That More People Might Have Seen.

(26:58):
She was one of Theo's Friends and two episodes of
The Cosby Show, one of which they went to prom
She this is her second time on SVU. She had
a recurring part on the Blacklist this year and was
in two episodes of The Underground Railroad and The Good Fight.
Very recently, she was also in Leap of Faith, The
Help and Side Effects her husband. Her first husband, was

(27:21):
a securities trader at Cantor Fitzgerald in Tower One and
died in the nine to eleven attacks.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Less than not the only time that nine to eleven
will come up in this episode of Munch by Benson
spoiler that's weird.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Then next up, I've got Tawny Cyprus who's playing Shawna.
She's from Point Pleasant, New Jersey. She was main cast
in the Blacklist spin off Blacklist Redemption. She was a
series regular on Unforgettable. She had recurring parts on the
Blacklist as that same character that was spun off from
Blacklist into Black List Redemption. She was also in House

(27:58):
of Cards. As we'rering, these are all recurring House of Cards,
Kvill Heroes Rescue Me, one hundred Center Street, and Third Watch.
I've got two more really quickly. Karen Ludwig, who's playing
the prison nurse, was Meryl Streep's girlfriend in Manhattan. This
is her second of three appearances in SPU. And last

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on my list is Dinah Lenny, who's playing the prison warden.
She majored in American Studies at Yale and she was nurse.
Surely in seventy four episodes of Er. That's all I've got.
There were a lot of a lot of you know,
kind of one off actors down the line who you know,
pop up as small bit parts and other things, but

(28:46):
nothing that I saw that was particularly interesting.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, I mean, did you talk about Linda Powell. She's
spent a bunch of stuff, but yeah, it's all kind
of bit parts. She was She was good in this.
But I think we can move on to the next segment,
which is talking a little bit about uh women's prisons
in New York State. Josh, this is my New York

(29:09):
State of Mind segment.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Just your caged heat.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
It's not just it's not it's not just a met
watching Pam Career films. No. So okay, So this episode
takes place in Sealview Prison, which is not a real place.
There was no seal View Prison. Now there was a
There is rather a Bayview Prison, which is actually in Manhattan.

(29:34):
It's a rare kind of state penitentiary that's inside a
major city, which is fairly rare. It's actually down right
by the Chelsea Piers, so on the west side of
the island. Now one, it's like fairly interesting place, I guess,
not too exciting. It's a it's a medium uh what
do you call it? A medium security prison, so not

(29:57):
where the craziest criminals go, but.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Not club fed either.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Now it's not club fed. They did. Uh there was
a famous mural that was painted on the side of it,
and back in the seventies or something when there was
just an empty lot next to it.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Was it a banksy.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
No, but it's a cool like yeah, obviously, but it's
a cool like uh like abstract expressionist thing. It looked
pretty interesting. Of course, since then that lot has been
turned into a massive condo tower. So the uh, the
you can still partially see the but barely, and it's
I mean, it looks like shit, But I can imagine
like living in a two million dollar, you know, two

(30:35):
bedroom condo and knowing that right next door is you know,
prisoners who have been stuck there for decades. I don't know,
it just seems creepy to me personally. But the one
person that this is mostly about, or is mostly kind
of referring to, is the Bedford Hills Correctional Facility for Women,
which is probably the most famous women's penitentiary in the country.

(30:57):
It's it's it's the women's version of sing Sing. It's
been around since nineteen oh one and basically kind of
the most famous women prisoners of course in New York
State have all spent some time there. Now. In nineteen
seventy four it was the site of a big prisoner's

(31:17):
riot they took over. They called it the August Rebellion,
kind of similar to Attica situation, which you might be
familiar with. But reading down the list of inmates that
stayed there, pretty much every single person that lived there
for a while could be the subject of an excellent
episode of Law and Order s for you. I don't
know what it is about like women criminals that makes

(31:39):
them more interesting. But I mean, really, I'm telling you so,
like Amy Fisher lived there for a little while after
she's chopped off. What's his name's Wang Joey but Joey
Buttafuoco that's his name.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Oh no, sorry, yeah, not John Waynebob. But that was Lorena. Sorry. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
But there's a few other great ones, like Carolyn Warmus,
who was a tea sure convicted of the murder of
a fellow teacher's wife so that she could supposedly get
closer to him. Now, it's not entirely clear that that
was what happened. It might have been that the husband
actually did the killing and blamed it on this girl
who was kind of obsessed with her. But anyways, an

(32:18):
interesting story. Nonetheless. More recently, Anna Sarokan, who was this
sort of famous Russian fraudster who moved to New York
in twenty thirteen and created this fictitious identity and a
delvy She was like a wealthy German heiress in this
identity and used that to like defraud tons and tons

(32:38):
of people out of millions and millions of dollars. Really
fascinating story for her the one that I really got
interested in. But I mean, there's all of them, every
single one of them is interesting, but Kathy Bowden was
one that was really fascinating for me. She was a
former Weather Underground member who was convicted for her role
in the nineteen eighty one brinkx rawrobbery, which is just

(33:01):
a fucking wild story. So the Weather Underground, elements of
the Black Panther Party and some radical communist organization staged
this robbery of an armored car and really like hyper
violent robberies, straight out a heat shit. They killed three

(33:22):
guards at the side of the armored car and then
they also shot up I think they just wounded like
a half a dozen other cops during the escape. But
one of the surviving guards, a guy named Joseph Trombino.
He had like he was shot but survived in that. Now,

(33:45):
twenty years later, he was almost killed in the nineteen
ninety three World Trade Center bombing because he was making
a delivery but managed to escape, and then he was
killed on September eleventh, two thousand and one making another
delivery to the World Trade Center. So this guy has
really been kind of at the center of history. I

(34:08):
guess anyways, really fascinating list of prisoners that stayed at
Bedford Hills. Of course, it is a terrible prison. They
kind of claim that nowadays they're the kind of model
for how a women's prison should be run. They have
like a child welfare program, so the YadA YadA YadA.
I don't exactly know. They're still warehousing people, so I

(34:29):
don't necessarily think it's probably that great. Can we get
to some episode notes.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Josh, Yeah, one quick correction, Okay, Amy Fisher shot Joey
Buttafuco's wife.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Lorraina Bobbitt cut off John Wayne Bobbitt's.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Penis, that's right. Yeah, that's right. I'm getting my Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Well, and they were supposed to celebrity box one Another
and John Wayne Bobbitt, but Bobbitt was arrested for domestic abuse. Yeah, yeah,
I was, that's right.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I didn't write it all down. I just vaguely they
kind of blend together and right, mind.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Well they were pretty much at the same time, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
So the cold open, great cold open, right, Josh. This
this is one of my favorite kind of things. The
red or the.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Upskirt shot of the vic in the park.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Hey, we're getting there. But the crazed old man wielding
the machete, uh sure, and the terrified rookie, Yeah, great stuff.
And then how is he he's wandering around the woods
at night when there's a sixteen year old girl like
moaning fairly loudly, not I don't know, maybe ten feet
away from where he's standing. Don't you think he would
have heard her before?

Speaker 4 (35:40):
He only has ears for I guess. Okay, so how
many times do you think they needed to shoot that
shot to get the angle jamb light and just right
to not show the rape zone while still giving us
too much of an idea as to what happened to
this poor.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I want the lighting notes about that, right, like how much?
Like how much were the grips and the dp huddling
getting that just right to get the shadow cast like
across her skirt but still have her legs splayed open?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Ye, it's wild And again you know she's supposed to
be sixteen.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
We have been really remiss, Josh in not telling the
number of be ankled panties that we've witnessed, because like,
this one is like a full upskirt shot, right, this
one is probably the lutest one we've seen yet. I think, yeah,
just insane, yes, and sixteen years old. I don't think
the actress, I don't think what's her name was sixteen? Yeah,

(36:43):
shreek Aps, but still pretty gross.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Shreeka Apps was born in nineteen eighty nine, Okay, so
she'd be about nineteen here.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, still kind of gross.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
I would, I would argue, very gross.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah. I like Cyrus Wort as a name. I feel
like it took him a while to come up with
that one.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Really into his name, I do. I have to say,
I really like when we get Stabler sort of like
training green rookies, you know, green rookie unis, Yeah, job
at crime scenes.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
We've seen that once or twice and it always works well,
like he's he's really good at that at that uh yeah,
kind of paternal paternal rule.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah, the paternal like pull your hat out of your ass, kid.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
She's alive, so that's not a murder weapon, right yep.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
So when we get to the credits, I was watching him.
I think it's kind of like I think Season nine
credits might be my favorite. Yeah, you know you got lake,
you got good picks. So pretty much the whole cast
Diane Neal is looking weirdly hot in the season nine
opening credits, like it's Warner, you know, of all the
eighty as, you know, she's probably the of all the

(37:55):
female ada's, she's probably the one who I'm least okay what,
she's the least being crass, the least like just she
she has the least animal magnetism.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Okay, soon, So let's say that they're at a certain point.
Let's I don't know, probably what whenever I think Angie
Harmon was the first, if I'm not mistaken, but whenever
Jill Hennessy was, whenever Jill Hennison is another model, Yeah no, exactly,
Like I get them confused because they're both like drop
dead gorgeous brunettes, you know, like whenever she joined the

(38:28):
original series, like they're like, oh yeah, this is this
is who's going to be the Adas now so and and.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Oh yeah this is the formula.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
And Diane Neil very attractive. But she's not that, right,
I mean, I.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Think, yeah, yeah, she's not. She's not the like just
runway model.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah cabin gray lick and uh, you are definitely are,
but not.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
And what's her face? Hardwick? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so but yeah, well,
I mean, hell, even Stone could be what do you mean,
like Stone's kid.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, Stone's kid. I was going to say Stone.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, the season, the season twenty.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I love a bald man as much as the next guy, Josh,
but I don't think they're not moriarty.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
But yeah, and like this one, it feels like it's
even more CPO out than all the rest of the
season intros are.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, I think it is. It's very CPI it I now,
whenever I'm doing like the recap, I'm always furiously typing,
so I wasn't watching it. Is Warner in the in
the main cast? Yeah, yeah, so it's really It's got
all my faves. So what I think is funny is
that instantly you can tell, at least I don't know,
you could tell the shooting schedule, Josh. And the shooting

(39:40):
schedule is that they did the seal of view scenes
before they did these opening scenes with Benson because they're
totally hiding her neck for the first like two or
three scenes. She's wearing a turtleneck I think in the
cold open, and then she has a scarf that's very
much trying to hide the like yeah, mark on her

(40:01):
neck that's there when from the probably from from.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Because some of it's probably not make up, Yeah exactly. Yeah, yeah,
some of it was a war wound on Saturn.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, like iced tea hit her a little too hard
with that night's ticking out.

Speaker 8 (40:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I thought that was interesting. It's like, what the fuck
is going on with her neck? And then by the
end of it, I'm like, oh, that's what happened.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Uh so yeah, then we're we're we're in the ambulance
and Ashley really doesn't want to talk, She's throwing it
all over the place, and then they have to sedate her. Uh.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Then, I've never seen a rape victim attack a cop. Now,
what about the victims of rape by cop? Would you
ever see that attack a cop? Just a question I had.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
I think we get an answer. Yeah, yeah, so, uh
you know, obviously I'm pleased to see both webe and
Keima's old lady here. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (40:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Now we have another heavenly set of foster pairs, which
is definitely a s FU trope. Now in this one,
we are kind of under the implication that the group
home is not heavenly because, of course, shoot your contracts.
Multi drug resistant TB from it. But these foster.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Parents when you're getting when you're getting consumption on steroids
from a group home.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
But but these foster parents are really going to the
mat for so good on them, Yeah, good on, good
on the whole as system.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yeah, I love when they go to Webay. Sorry, I'm
just gonna call him.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Just call him we Bay. We know he's hasan Johnson
or Rick or little Ricky or whatever you want to
call him.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Yeah, but well little Little Ricky's is a shower partner.
But when they get to his apartment and he cannot
sing for ship is it's pretty great?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, I mean really great. I love you, Rick Tyler.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
That's who Maybe I got soap in my ears. You
left the door open.

Speaker 6 (41:59):
Oh been for you, Cooper said, come and get it.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Locks of Moxie, Hello, Foxy is the.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I got it? Now what police, Let's go a little
Ricky loved hearing him in the shower really like knew exactly.
Gave me a sense of place. Yep, and I.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Totally enjoyed it. I also get the sense that he's
probably method and they all saw us.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Don to be fair, they saw a lot of dog
in the shooting of this episode.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Yep. Yeap dong all over the place Wallda wall Dong
in this episode, God damn it. Okay, So I don't
have any notes again until they get into prison.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Okay, So I have a great note here so according
so we'll call them we Bay. So Risa was. Risa
was busted with two kilograms of Webay's weed, which uh
to me, okay, for one thing, I went, that seems
like a lot. I don't know exactly like size wise,

(43:17):
because I've never seen that much weed. But that's a
lot more weed than I've seen. So I did a
little research to see exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
And there's also a lot more weed than is presumably
in that bag that they pulled out from under his.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Oh a lot more So I did a little online research. Now,
according to greencamp dot com, a kilogram of weed is
quote an enormous amount of marijuana. Let's say the size
of two watermelons. Now, Risa was busted with with two kilos,
so that we're talking about four large watermelons worth of weed.

(43:49):
That's you know, a lot, and that would be roughly
five pounds, which it's a lot. That's like a lot
of that's like you know, you could like do like
a like shoulder workout with that much weed. Anyways, another
shady website that I went to, stuvera dot com, suggests
that a pound of weed should cost between two and

(44:10):
four thousand dollars. If you're buying like the pound right now,
we're talking with two kilos. We're talking about ten to
twenty thousand dollars, which could be repackaged and sold for estimate,
say one hundred and sixty dollars an ounce and uh
street value. We're talking about yeah, street value. So we're

(44:31):
talking about roughly sixty four thousand dollars for that amount
of weed. In like profits in the neighborhood of forty
four thousand dollars. So that's like a pretty high martin,
you know, Like that's a pretty good margin that webas
making there. Now, another problem I have with this whole
like smuggling weed into the prison scheme is that I

(44:55):
know that the guards are in on it, and.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
I know that with the it firsthand. Yeah, I have.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
As we've mentioned before, I have seen the guards do
it firsthand. We've also seen it. I think Webay was
involved with it firsthand in the wire if I'm not mistaken, right,
was he already inside when that whole drug deal thing
was going on with the with the officer Johnson, what
was that? Wasn't that his name another sbu alum that

(45:22):
we've seen it was? What was? No, it was Tillman,
that's right. Officer Johnson was the shitty guy who's beating
up the kids in season four. Anyways, you don't smuggle
weed in that, I think Walker. Yeah, but you don't
smuggle weed in candy bars and in like, you know,
you smuggle something that has a higher profit per you know,

(45:45):
per volume. You smuggle heroin.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Or or you find a way to bring it in through.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Laundry, fentyl or coke, something where it's like, you know,
like the hardcore addicts are getting off on it. The
hardcore also like it's kind of hard to smoke a
joint without somebody noticing, you know what I mean. Anyways,
I think that they could have it would have made
a little bit more sense if it wasn't weed and
this whole prison weed scenario.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Yeah yep. Well but the oxy codone, the oxy codone
might have been part of it too.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, but he had a prescription for that, that was fair.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Yeah, he had a script, But he had a script,
but he that that still could have been I don't
feel like that was entirely dismissed as being being like
wrapped up in that.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Now I feel like he was a totally stand up dude.
But I also feel like it's a little it's a
little weird to sleep naked next to your sixteen year
old niece. I think that's a little weird.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
I would posit that it's more than a little weird.
I think she was fourteen at the time, not sixteen
now that that's okay, neither neither age would be okay
for that. But yeah, I love how quickly we ship
gears to like, no, he's a totally stand up dude.

(47:02):
Well he's webe. You know, he could kill some he
could kill a lot of people. He could drop a
lot of bodies, and you're still kind of like it.
It's webs all right. You know, he likes his fish
like the prison guard seems like a supreme piece of
ship before we've even met.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Him, just by like the way he by reputation, Yeah,
by what's being said.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
You know, he also snatched the rape kit from the hospital, which.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Is uh, it seems like he's a pretty you know,
smart guy if he's able to figure out, well.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
That's ballsy though, because he there's no way to know
that their surveillance is not working.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
I mean you could assume, and also no way to
know that, like it's going to be busy when you
walk in there. It can be busy at a time
in a hospital.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Yeah, it's it's pretty obvious right away that the warden's
either clueless or complicit. Yeah, because you know, Stabler goes
in with his uh weird undercover as a lawyer, sands
glasses and he like this. The whole op is blown
up immediately, and I get like it makes more sense,

(48:05):
I guess if it's the captain who's actually the one
pulling the strings and not the shithead you know, Ceo Parker.
But I feel like it still seems insane.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
That I feel like you have an issue with like
some guards. They're going to see him. Also, the captain might,
in a good natured way, give up the goose. I
think it's kind of left to our imagination, but yeah,
it seems it didn't seem like a very well thought
out scheme considering the risk that Reesa was in or
danger she was in. So yeah, I crazy.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Okay, now you know we jump ahead, Benson's going in
and you know there's no net aside from Finn.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
And we have a kind of a rare voiceover, which
is a weird, a weird trope for SVU. We don't
get to see voiceover montages very often.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Well, and it's not exactly voiceover, you know, it's it's
offscreen dialogue that we eventually cut in on, which we also, uh, well,
I'm not going to get ahead of ourselves. But yeah,
it's a it's a weird it's weird, it's thing because
we're not used to it. It's it's it's serving sort
of as vio.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a makeover montage. It's
what it is.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Yeah. Yeah, she lives getting cheese all that.

Speaker 8 (49:22):
I have.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
They're really going full caged heat like right away, lives in.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
The shower, her bosom.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yeah she's yeah, I mean she is full on like Yeah,
there's a lot of breast cupping here.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
I will have to say that I I didn't just
go frame by frame because when I pause on Hulu,
I can't see it very well. I was taking screenshots
as it was going to see if there was any
any visible Areola, And I can't say that I can
confirm or deny.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
There's no way she wasn't wearing flesh guts.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
I could I could not confirm it. I think you're right.
I think you could kind of make out the pasties underneath.
But I had to look. I had to look.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Yeah, I mean, this was your episode to do the
recap on.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, and I did. I did that. I needed to
do that for a later section anyways, So I was
already familiar with the technique. So it's not like, all right.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
So Resa got got the instant live gets into cel view.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Uh, then we uh see we meet Ashley again, go
back to Ashley. Yeah, and she's got a fucking cough.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yeah. And you know where that's going. We know where
that's going because we've seen we've seen the Congo episode,
and we've seen that's not the only time we've seen
somebody just suddenly get ill for the right.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Because well, I mean there was a whole Measles there
was no break episode.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Yeah, the Measles outbreak exactly. That was very very similar situation.
Do we talk about the hyoid bone fracture scene, Josh,
I mean we've.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Talked about hyoid bones before, but I guess we can
talk about it again.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yep. Okay. So there are two things I liked about
the scene. This is where Warner is describing why it
couldn't have been suicide, one of them being the placement
of the noose, and the other being.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
That right handed person the noose the not on the
noose would be a little off to the right of
the neck. Now left handed person be the other way.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
But I wish I might try to make a gift
out of this because Megan walked in while I was
watching that scene, and to somebody lacking context, the way
that Warner was moving her hand up and down looked
like she was simulating and jerking off somebody's penis that
was attached to her neck. And it was really funny,

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and Megan.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Or over her shoulder, you know. And the sort of
end of is it season two or three of Silicon
Valley where they're trying to figure out how to jerk
as many dicks office posis?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah? Exactly, man, good funny scenes. Too bad that like
half of those people are just horrible the other things.
So the hyoid pine fracture, I researched it I guess
you had already done research on it, but it appears
to be really common in Brazilian jiu jitsu, given the
dozens of threads that I found on it that mentioned

(52:21):
high ode pine fractures on Reddit's r BJJ forum, which
I did go to. Apparently it's something that could happen
pretty pretty commonly with I guess some.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Of the yeah, I mean they're doing choke holds, grapples.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
And choke holds that they're doing exactly if For those
not aware, the hy odebone is is one of those
strange kind of like.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
It's almost like a wishbone.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
It is. It's it's like floating behind your chin in
front of your of your backbone, and it's it is
a kind of a what do you call it? A
crescent shaped small bone? Yeah? Interesting? H so yeah, yeah,

(53:06):
so I guess now we're she's she's meeting shawna right, Hey.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Just off the boat home alone? No, you don't you
got to hear any problem. Have a nice week.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Yeah, I just need to get straight.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
You know who's holding.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
There's nothing here. It's been driving for about a week.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
So where's a girl?

Speaker 3 (53:34):
What's your name?

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Cat?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yep, Shawna, Yeah, shaw, I just.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
I just need little taste at deal job.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
You know that the only way gonna score is by
flat backing whatever, But you gotta make your merchandise a
little more attractive, you know, like, uh, like that girl
over there, you see her, she gets whatever she needs.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Yeah, yeah, the only way you're going to score is
by flatback I was like, yeah, no, I mean I
can tell I knew what flatbacking was, but by context,
you know my context. Okay.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
I just wanted to look up to make sure that
was a thing and not something that the SV writers
made up. And it is a thing. It's it is
a thing.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
You know. They have Urban Dictionary bookmark. It's really crazy
how like every single fucking thing is stacked against them
in this episode, Like the local emmy won't re examine
Reese's body because he doesn't want to piss off his
biggest client. You're sitting there like, there's probably the reason
they're your biggest client, jackass.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, it's because you don't you don't do shit.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Okay, now, Matthew Parker, we have the best part.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Matthew Parker's credit card statement.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Yes, his his porn subs it's.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Not just the porn subs, Josh, the whole credit card
statement is wild. So Matthew Parker being the the low
level lecherous corrections officer first.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
At this point, we think he's the guy who's good
for it.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
We think he's the guy who's good for it. We've
seen him.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
He full he's clearly good for plenty of awful shit.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
He full on cups Hargatea's ass cheek as she's doing
her intake and says, something really grows to her. And
also it seems to really like wielding this kind of
like awful power. He seems like the guy who could
be doing this now. So they pull his they pull
his records well, and.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
He clearly is going to take her down to the
crotch at Riia downstairs.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yes, so they pull his records, and his credit card
statement just completely insane. So first off, there's we got left,
we got right column, which is the charges, and we
got left column, which is like yeah, which is just
like the numbers being added up. The numbers do not
add up, Josh, truly.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Well, I think I think there's we only see the
first twenty four charges.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
No, no, no, no, no no, I'm just talking about the the balance,
new balance that stuff. So the balance is listed as
one thousand, three hundred and eighty nine dollars and thirty
two cents. There were supposedly four hundred and twenty five
dollars and thirty nine cents worth of transactions, plus fourteen
dollars and three cents worth of finance charges minus fifty

(56:18):
dollars even of payments. That equals one thousand, seven hundred
and eighty seven dollars and seventy four cents, which is
not the number listed as the new balance. The new
balance is one four hundred eighty nine dollars and thirty
two cents. Josh, So there is almost three hundred dollars
of missing cash here, which does not quite add up. Now,

(56:42):
obviously that.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Is far less interesting.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Than the next part. Yes, the next part is the
list of charges on his credit card. And holy shit,
is it amazing because he is a full on porn addict,
and not just regular porn, Josh. He into all kinds
of things.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Yeah, he's all over the map.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Really, so should we read down this list? Because you're
not gonna walk. You're not gonna see it unless you.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
You really have to.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah, you have to need some sleuthen to get to
at least to the lower level one.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
I'm assuming we both did.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
I got all of them, as far as.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
I got all of them.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah, so we have starting off the list, we have
Cocoa jugs dot com. Sure makes sense as yeah, absolutely,
I get it. Next we have prison mate dot net.
I love them dot Net. Don't know why he'd be
into women in prison because that's what.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Yeah, I mean, that's what he's got. But it could
also be a website dedicated to making good mate in
the joint. That's true, so he could be running a
mate game on the side.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
I don't think you can put an accent mark in
a in an email.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
You cannot, so it could be prisonmante dot com. You
know the best way to make mate with out a
gourd in the joints?

Speaker 2 (57:57):
See this one, this next one number three. To me,
this isn't even a porn site. This is just an
email address sexyhotmail dot com.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
But this is for your porn burn email.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I think we've both worked with a guy who had
a sexy hotmail dot com email address, so uh.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
I think we both worked with multiple guys with that.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Okay, So now we're kind of we're kind of revving
into gear with the peepster dot com. I guess that's
gonna be your voyeur website. Sure, maybe kind of normal.
But up your butt dot net?

Speaker 4 (58:33):
That that's my favorite of them, is it? It's direct? Well,
it's just it's direct. It's funny. It's a dot net.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, dot net. It's always funny.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Yeah, the dot net. Up your butt dot net. If
it was up your butt dot com, that's not funny.
Up your butt dot net is.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
I was hoping there'd be a CEO dot coe somewhere
in here, or dot co, dot dot uk, dot ca
A what dot dot are you? Anyways? We got nice
booty dot net that probably exists. This one might be
my favorite. Love in a Barnyard dot org because.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Now, are we sure it's not Louvina Barnyard dot org.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
That could just be a normal website that just could
be like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
That could just be be Louvina Barnyard's website.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I think it's love in a Barnyard, Josh.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
I know, And that's what it's spelled. L u v
I n A. It could be Louvina Barnyard.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
I don't know what freaks at SVU think like people
who consume porn watch because like you don't just go
from like Coco Jugs dot com to fucking full on
beast reality porn. That's not like, well progression.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
It could just be pastoral exhibitionist, so it doesn't need
to be fucking animalsts.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
He's got a straw fet issue, you know.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Yeah, he just likes seeing people fucked on haybangs out
in a field.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Okay, I iron kitten dot com though, no idea, what.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
I mean, what the fuck? What what would iron kitten
dot Com be?

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
It sounds horrifying?

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Yeah, it's is it like a fucking weird chastiv belt site,
but like a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I don't know, torture porn, you know, some sort of
like like dick torture shit. You know, I don't know,
some some fucking anti Christ Lars Rondreer shit, something like that.
Now for Good Company dot com, that's not porn.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Yeah, that sounds like a dating site exactly. Well, it
sounds like a escort site. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Now, okay, so just a couple boring ones her fetish
manner dot net Yeah whatever, cyber loves dot net another
dating site. Finally we get to Crotcheteria dot com. Why
Crotcheteria dot Com was not given a bolder you know
typeface in this because really, yeah, really good shit.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
It should be at the top of the list.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Good shit, Babes being bad dot net, Animal Looveclub dot Com.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Okay, maybe now that makes us think Louvin a Barnyard
is a maybe something else, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Then rounding it out with easy Date dot Com and
Cindysecret dot Com. But really some gems in there. They
really went all out.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Yeah, I mean, I really I want to know, I
really desperately want to know what iron kid dot Com is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Put it into your search browser. Josh, Nope. At this point,
my there's so much plot going on, right because we've
got prison riots happening.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
And we've got t lockdown.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Yeah, We've got Fin getting pissed off because he's.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
He's because he can't get his he can't get his.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Tests, he can't get his test on time. And we've
got Benson nearly being raped. Oh I I have one
note before we get to all the action.

Speaker 6 (01:01:57):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Benson's look almost works her prison junkie look, but they
really needed to do something about her haircut. Man because
her haircut is not the haircut of a lifelong you know,
yeah pill head to me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
They should have given her ratty ass extensions.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Or yeah, give her a wig, I don't know, wig,
like at least like the Olivia Ben's like, give Mariska
Hargotay a wig, right, like Benson that we don't even
need to have it explained. They could just do something
and it wouldn't matter. It's just like she clearly had
you know, her hair done like two days ago when

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when they were filming that, right, it took me out
of the scene.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
That's sure. Now, Okay, so we're on TV Lockdown. Yeah,
and then the guard supervisor starts to like, you know,
run to the front of the pack and oh, maybe
this guy's also sketchy as fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
The mustache kind of screams sketch for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
But it also screams leo. So it's hard to say anyway. Whatever, Now,
I do feel like we should say that it's positively
insane that Matthew Parker would be so fucking open about
banging the inmates to a guy who started there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
This week yesterday, yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
I believe like this prison is clearly super fucked ye
clue no, And you kind of want to say that,
like this doesn't seem realistic, like it couldn't be this bad.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
It's probably bad.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
That's probably bad.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Yeah, it's probably absolutely this bad. Uh uh yeah. Fuck
the way we wear house people in this country, especially
for fucking weed. Man, weed is legal.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
Here really, any drug use, any any just possession charges
without intented deal as fucking you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Could walk down the street in New York City right
now smoking a joint and nobody fucking cares.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Yep, well, because you know it's legal exactly. I mean,
I guess it's not legal to smoke in public, but
I or maybe I don't know how the New York
laws written, but I know you couldn't like walk down
the street and smoke in LA but it was legal.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Basically every street in Manhattan stinks like weed constantly. Now, Yeah,
the only place we didn't see weed getting smoked constantly
was on Governor's Island, which is this is like officially
National Parks property. So I was I was actually almost
like interested, like can you not do it here? I

(01:04:31):
don't even know anyways, it doesn't really matter, but we're back.
We're back for this A thrilling scene with Live in.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Har Well, there's also we haven't talked about the ryot
really at all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Yeah, we haven't.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Like, no, the guards just come in charging with rya
gear and the women are just upset because they want
to know what's going on because there's a fucking drug
resistant outbreak of well talking tuberculosis.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
So Parker is explicitly taking live away to Raper. Yeah
that's oh, that's like stand out, it's time for you
to get raped. That's that's like why he is there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
Hey's rape a clock, Jesus fucking Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Yeah, and you know, like there's no lag time between
the like there's no like time for people to get
into their riot gear, right, there's just immediate beating people
with night sticks.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
Mhm. So yeah, it turns out the Corrections Captain is
a racist, or rather one of them, because clearly Parker
is also a rapist. Yeah, and then we have, you know,
this fucking harrowing scene where it's like, oh, the person
we watch on the show for twenty plus years is

(01:05:50):
yeah the really the only main character that's been the
whole is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
You know, like less than an inch from she's close
enough to see mole.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Oh, like we linger on the shot on Hargateate's face,
and she's I mean, she's selling the look of like
fear and horror really well. She does a great job
in this episode. But holy shit, are we forced to
stew in the fact that his fucking erect rape dick

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is like less than an inch from her face. It's horrifying,
it's molly.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Erect.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I'm glad we have an outlet for things like this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Because I mean, it's like, we're laughing right now, but
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Its horrified.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
It is not a fun moment, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Not at all, especially because it's it's like telegraphed right
like we walked down the stairs and we're like, oh no,
this isn't good. And we keep walking forward and we're like,
oh no, that's not good, and we see that that
that bear mattress and it's like, oh fuck, that's not good.
And then it's it just like gets like that. The
fear and horror ratchets up throughout that scene. It's it's, yeah,

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it's a long scene. It's cutting back and forth between.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Finn's Finn trying to get to her, Finn trying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
To get you know, trying to get his his his
test done. Yeah, just horrifying and to see you know,
like the main character of the show like put into
this situation where not only is it horrifying for anybody,
but especially for her with her you know priors. Basically, Yeah,
it's it is. Uh, it is really a fucking moment.

(01:07:52):
The only thing that really I wish they had kind
of sold Harris as the bad guy a little bit earlier.
Uh in the episode.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
I think it works as a surprise though it does.
It works as like you think, like it's I think
it's a good mister act and like the fucking you
know what's this fuck is also a complete shithead rapist.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
He is, Yeah, he's also you know, like it's it's
trying to point out that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
I don't know that anything fucking happens to him at
the end of the episode either.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Yeah, and we know that there's dozens of other guards
in this place that are also raping these people too,
So yeah, it's it's horrifying, dark, fucking shit. Uh, which
of course they follow up with, uh with big jokes
because har you know, Finn rushes in and uh, you know,

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manages to save the day and Harris is taken taken
downtown to be questioned, and they tell him he doesn't
have the balls to handle men. That's why he was
at Seal View. Yeah, it's kind of in approach.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
M I actually I actually like her doing that. Yeah,
once she thinks she's got him, because it's like a
you know, yeah, it's especially since he's been raping all
of these fucking little time like fuck this piece of ship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Fuck, I'm happy to see him him they've taken down
a peg and and he he has this like shit
eating smirk on his face that scene, because yeah, he
really he really is odious.

Speaker 8 (01:09:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Yeah, once we once we figure out who he is,
because he seems almost friendly the first time we meet him,
and then he really he really goes to odious quick.

Speaker 8 (01:09:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
And of course Austin Lizzie, one of the best he boys,
comes in and saves his ass, but not for very long, Nope,
And almost immediately he.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Is he's made by his mole.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
He's made by the male.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
The the uh.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
And you know, we definitely know that live saw Dong
Live saw Dong.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
There was zip.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
She she knew what what distinctive feature?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
I mean, what what what a line of dialogue where
live is pressing Ashley to open up about the Dick mole.

Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
Yeah, like you saw them all right, just god, I mean,
just to be a fly on the wall of the
writer's room when there's when they came up with that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Oh oh oh, distinguishing characteristic on the dick.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Unbelievable, broken people, broken people all around, and then he's.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
There's something really special about these Neil barriers where and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Then so they go into arrest him. I really liked
the scene where they finally arrest Harris because there's this
you know, I guess he's either just finished brutalizing Amber
Lachan's or lachanse. Yeah, but she has a very strange

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on her, like a very strange grin as he is
being hauled off that I really enjoyed. And then of
course all the prisoners cheer as he's been taken away,
and then we really get some dick jokes from Stabler
and Warner right at the end, Captain.

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
We private to me, we'll have to enlarge it for
the jury, but it's right where Ashley said it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Was, See you in twenty years, captain, And that's.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
What It's really rare for them to be right at
the end too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
I know there's it was kind of like a little
like almost a g I Joe kind of like, uh,
you know, Masters of the Universe style wrap up to
an episode right where a little lighthearted pun and then
then it goes to credits.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Yeah, and then you know, I don't know, they high
five or whatever exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Yeah, So all right, that's so bad. Let's ranked this thing, Josh,
are you ready?

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
I'm ready, I'm I'm fucking ready.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Born ready to rank this one. I gotta say so,
of course, guys, I should say first, we rank these
episodes every week. We are trying to put every episode
of SVU in order in order of how they rank
on our rating system, which is a ten point scale
of four criteria with which we make a composite score.

(01:12:26):
So we rank on the quality of the episode, the
quality of the guests in the episode, how problematic it was,
and the depth and breadth of lives ruined over the
course of the episode, and that gives us our composite score. Now,
I gotta say, I think this one was pretty good.
I like this.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
Episode, yeah, I completely yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
And I like how you know that the main cast
member isn't going to be killed. Generally speaking, we're not
watching Game of Thrones, and should we know that they're
not going to go to jail for a convincingly long
amount of time. But in this episode, there really was
high stakes in that scene in that rape dungeon, and yeah,

(01:13:12):
it really could like you really thought it could have
gone there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
M And no, it's a I mean even having seen it,
you know, I obviously we both remembered the episode pretty
well because this isn't one you forget.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
No, this is a classic episode. This is really a
good one.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
But even knowing where it goes, it's like insanely stressful
for the entire fucking time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Like, yeah, there's like a whole like between commercial breaks
where it is just like it it doesn't stop, and
it ratchets up the stress and it is has a
pretty horrifying climax, and it does it well, like it works.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
Yeah, it really, it really does the and it does
the good. It does like the good job of like
cutting away to Finn trying to fucking extricate himself from
this fucking position without blowing his cover. Yeah, you know,
it does all of that. So like so you know,
the the cutting back and forth really ratchets up the tension.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Well, so I'm inclined to call this a nine. I
don't know that it's perfect, but I think it's really good.

Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
I yeah, I'm I'm there with you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
You know, it's not like because it's not there are
I guess there are laugh lines in it, but I
don't know it's not it's I don't know what perfect is,
but I think it's just like a tick below it.
But it is really fucking good and it works. Now.
I think the next one is the only one. Maybe
it maybe loses a peg because the guests are good,

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but I don't think that this is where the episode
strength lies. I mean I think that that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
I mean, I think Parker and Harris, you know, the two,
the two fucking you know, completely bankrupt corres.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
They're great, They're they're they're really.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Is flying crazy, menacing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
I think Shreek Aps is pretty good. I think Cyrus
worked is great.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
He's great. Johnson is awesome. Of course, I wish he
was in it so much more. Uh, It's like, I
really really loved his scene. He's completely stole it. But
I don't think it's by like a.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
Ten in no, no, no, no no. I think it's
probably like a seven or.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
That seems right. Everybody, everybody is good for the most part.
There's no there's no obvious bad you know, bad actor,
so to speak. But but it's not not perfect there.
Now this is a ten problematic, right, I mean we
are subjected to near constant prison rape references throughout this episode.

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
It also, I mean opens on that shot. You know,
it opens like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
We have an upskirt shot of a recently raped sixteen
year old.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
That's just barely lit the right way, So you know
that they took a lot of time doing like setting
that shot up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Yeah, there was some they really they really at their
angles down like they were drying, they were drawing out
some some boards.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Li's got a dick in her face for it felt
like an hour.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Warner is photographing a dick and making jokes about it.
Elliott has multiple dicks in his face that he is
joking about Throughout the episode. Shanna is talking about flatbacking
and then providing.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Example just just like casually.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Casually providing examples of chicks in prison that get whatever
they want.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Oh yeah, uh no, this is this is like wildly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Probably Finn is calling people crack hose right in front
of their daughters.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
Yeah, no, no, that was munch.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Oh that was much. You're right, that was much.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
Yeah, but I'm still problematic.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
I mean it's this is a ten, right, this is
a ten.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
I mean it's it's wall the wall dongs, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
It's the wall dogs, like from the from the get go.
Just it is like trow is dropped everywhere. God damn it.
We see a guy full on cup harget taste. But
we see Hargetee you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
Know, cupping her boobs, is doing like the.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Like the the Black Book Walk of Shame, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Like, yeah, it's god, it's fucking wife.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
I'm calling this a ten, Josh, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
That's fine, I mean going to push against it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
It's it's out standing. And then the depth and breadth
of lives ruined.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
Now but well we know that she deals with PTSD
from this for all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Why Yeah, and she is of course, and she's the lead,
the lead in the show and still is to this day.
Was probably back then, but at least the cod.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
You know, they were both getting nominated for at this time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Absolutely, we also have a TB outbreak in the foster
care system in New York. We have we do we
have Ashley who has a lifetime of PTSD to look
forward to, we have Resa who's dead, and we have
a we.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
Have a whole rape victims. Basically the entire prison has
been raped.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Every single one of them.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
That's my fuckhead, fuckhead. Parker doesn't seem like he's going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Yeah, absolutely, it seems basically in my understanding of it
from what Shauna was telling us, that basically the more
you enjoy the rape, the more you get while you're inside,
which is really dark, really really dark.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Mm.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
And uh, what else am I missing? Elliott's obviously seeing
a lot of a lot of whang, probably more than
he wanted to, uh live, definitely did. Yeah, this is
some pretty horrifying ship. Also, I think, and you have to, you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Have to chalk up Reesa's death is at least partially
on their shoulders.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Yeah, and I think that Iced Tea actually hit Harktet
in the neck with the knight stick, so that's another thing. Yeah. Yeah,
Reese's death totally on their shoulders, So Elliott hopefully has
to deal with that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
So what I kind of don't see how this isn't
a ten. Also, it's I mean, it's we're dealing with
a with a drug resistant tb out otbreak and and
and like fucking like hundreds of rapes in this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Episose hundreds of rapes and okay, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
And PTSD for our fucking for the lead fucking character
in this show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
And this is kind of like, you know, not not
necessarily with this episode in mind, but this is kind
of what at least when I was thinking about this category,
something like this right where it's just like we are
forced to think about thousands of rapes in this episode, right, And.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
I mean, you're you sit through one that is just
barely interrupted.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Yeah, And but we also with the intake scene, right,
we we we are forced to think about just the
like essentially the whole process of becoming a prisoner is
basically being raped, right, Like, like they are there from
the second they get out of that bus, and we
we like do a few different like sweeps around the

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yard right where they're all these extras and we're we're
definitely forced her to think all of them being.

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
Raped, a pad cast of characters who are all being raped.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Yeah, horrifying. Okay, Yeah, it's a ten, And I don't
feel bad about ranking this one really highly. This one
is is coming in.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
It's really good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
This kicks, it ticks the boxes. They definitely. I don't
know did did Harga take it Emmy buzz for this one?
I did not look that up for this episode.

Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
I don't know she was nominated for nine to one
one in season or she won. I think she won
that one. I think she was nominated for an Emmy
this year also.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Yeah, because this this was definitely one of those ones
where it's like she she should have gotten at least
at least a nom but I don't so our composite score.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
Yeah, so this is this is from two thousand, the
two thousand and nine season, right, Yeah, so she won
in two thousand and six, and then she was nominated
in two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, two
thousand and nine, twenty ten, twenty eleven. Yeah, so this
this is all in that one down.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
So she's basically nominated every year from two thousand and
four to two thousand and eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
So that puts this as a nine, which you might
realize is pretty high on our list. In fact, it
is number two behind only Hooked, which had an HIV
epidemic across New York.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
And was was also inappropriate in a much more fun Yeah,
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
It was a tick more fun and it had a
tick you know, one tick higher kind of guest participation,
I guess is really the only where, the only place
where we gave that one higher marks.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
But it was, it was well and that was all
because of what's as fuck from Succession, right as a
little kid in the coffee shop.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Well, it did have it did have Greg from Succession,
that's right. Megan still thinks that the g I. Joe
Snakeye Origin Stories movie is starring Greig from Succession, and
I don't have the heart to tell her that it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
But but yeah, well, I mean she'll find out when
you guys go to it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
This book, I wish, I'm really I really want to
see peg Man. We've been We've gone to the Pig.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
Oh, Pig was great.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Yeah, we've gone to this bar in the like in
the East village that's right across the street from a
movie theater. And our child is not of age to
go to movies yet, so we need to figure out
a babysitter situation. But Pig looks awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
Pig Pig was fantastic. That's the first movie I've gone
to since the pandemic. And I'm only going to you know,
weekday matinees, so that that are going to Fast nine tomorrow?
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
You don't give me any spoilers, but is it a
Mandesque revenge thriller?

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
Not at all? Okay, it's you couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
I don't don't give it the trailers.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
The trailer is not going to tell you anything about
what that movie is.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Okay, awesome. I know he wants his pickback, that's all
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
He yeah, he wants his pickback. It's a truffle pig
and it's you know, he loves his pig.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Anyways, Uh, I think we should roll the next one
and get on with our lives because it's already late
and we're going to try to do it today.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Yeah, so spoiler alert, we've already watched this one because
we're recording it in like two minutes. But uh, you know,
we'll go through the uh, we'll go through the little
rhythm here. So I am going over to episode dot LOL,
which is fueled by friend of the pod flat. The
tape is spinning and it is kicking out. Oh yeah,

(01:24:43):
you know Bill and Ted. They don't party, but it
kicked out rage Season six, episode seventeen, The overview. Fourteen
years ago, Stabler had a chance to nail Gordon Rickett
for the abduction, rape, and murder of Dana McNamara, but

(01:25:07):
Rickett managed to get off.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
That's the whole overview.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
Yeah. With the recent discovery of the body of Carrie
Lynn Palmer, Stable has another chance at cracking the case.
They can only hold Rickett for twenty four hours, but
are able to glean enough information during that time that
we'll just cut off. They can only hold off Rickett
because this is giving off too much of the plot.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Yeah, let's just say that if you've seen this episode,
you'll remember it because it is a different one. It
is starring.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
And starring heavily starring.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Star Evulgon screen Matthew Modine in a Canadian jux.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Know really in this movie or in this episode a lot?
Holy shit?

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Sure is. And uh and you know it's.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
We said this episode was different.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
This episode more different. So you guys are gonna have
to wait till next week for us to get into that.
But uh, yeah, until then, guys, munch myke Benson.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Yeah, month the Funk Out of our Benson's and you know,
rate and review the podcast. Listen to Andy podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Yeah, there's some great ones if you If you're looking
for podcasts, just send us a note. We will hook
you up.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
Yep, yep, and yeah we're you know, we're on all
the socials at Munch of my Benson. Yeah yeah, listen.
Listen to all those people rate and review this fucking podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
People, Tell your friends.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
Tell your fucking mailman, because he will tell everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Ah, all right, all right later, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:27:01):
Later, come out, Come out. Wherever you are. You can't

(01:28:23):
hide from me. I know you're in there. I'm gonna
get you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Please rob me.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
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