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What happens when the season from which light cannot escape—SVU’s 19th—bestows upon the world a two-part finale? An unintelligible, unmitigated disaster. Reality and common sense fold in on themselves, and we’re all left to try to make sense of the hellish mess that is “Remember Me” (S19E23). When character motivation, logic, and how technology actually works are entirely discarded, you are left with a confounding mélange of nonsensical dialogue and wild conclusions with nary a passing relationship to reality. Needless to say, this ride—a wild one for all the wrong reasons—gave the Munchie Boys plenty to discuss.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You really don't remember me.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Gorgeous. I'll say I had to forget me again.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
It was a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
We here know any's we are.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Is? Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hm hm.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
So you like it? Rough?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Show show me?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
He was like that, mm.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I wanna show you something? Show me, baby? What do
you go for me?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Hey? Whoa, whoa? Now do you remember me? Wait? In

(01:31):
New York City, sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
These are their stories.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Hello and welcome to yet another thrilling episode of munch
My Benson. My name is Adam. I am here in
a stormy but very hot Manhattan, New York City. I
am joined under line by Josh Dugan. How's it going
up there?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Josh, It's going great.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I actually fell asleep watching this the second time. Wowfully,
I miss I missed the end of the second time
around on the second half, so I'm actually I feel
like I'm actually doing okay because I did.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I barely finished the first time, Josh. So, so this
one might lack some of the the thorough nests that
we're known for at munch Mike Penson.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, that we pride ourselves in.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
You've been up to anything in a less whatever day
or so since we last folk.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
In the last twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, what can.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I talk about?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I took the kiddo and I and banded out to
Central Park. Today was very warm, but we had a lovely,
lovely time in the park. Kid got to slide nut slide.
He he swang and we found a little rock for
him to climb around on. So that was that was
a really fun outing into the city right on. But
that's about it. That's all all I got.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
So he was he was reveling in the work of
fred Rick Olmsted.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
He was. He was actually talking about how it was
so we were in an area that had once been
it was an African American town on the north side.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I was going to ask about that. Actually that's where
I was going to.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's where we were. Yeah, And so we had a
pretty thoughtful discussion about whether the benefits to society of
Central Park existing outweigh the negatives of people who certainly
didn't have a better place to go having their homes
destroyed or generally speaking, not their own benefit. So yeah, yeah,

(03:32):
that's the kind of discussion one has with a thirteen
month old.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, sure, sure, I'm sure he had a lot of insight,
nothing like displacing the freed black men and black women
of what this is eighteen sixties, eighteen seventies.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, I mean, I think Central Park was built in
the eighteen seventies. The ruins of Seneca Village I believe
are from the eighteen fifties. But needless to say, I
was following a toddler around, so I didn't get a
chance to read all of the plac arts, so I
can't can't give you a very detailed description of it.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, those placards that were put.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Up you last ten years ago, Yeah, exactly. Now, I
would feel much better about enjoying Central Park for that
reason than enjoying the myriad of other things around this
hell of a country of ours, including a really shitty
freeway in Austin that got built specifically over the freed

(04:29):
black community, and any number of other things.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, weren't both thirty five and MOPAQ.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well, yeah, thirty five was mostly to kind of segregate
the undesirables off into a red line district.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, and then Mopack Mopac cleared out Clarksmith.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Mopak specifically leveled at the sort of one black neighborhood
in West Austin, and you could see the founder, or
at least you could before the latest construction work. I
don't know if it's still there, but along the Johnson
Creek Trail, any of our Austin listeners, you can see
the remains of which was once a very large and
thriving community dating back to the end.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Of the Civil War that was destroyed America. Yeah, happened
in St. Paul too. Yeah, we were just watching watching
on the news about Uh fuck, I wish I could
remember the name of the neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I mean, I hate to say it, but there's very
it's every city, basically parts of the country that are
from that. In places where you think, oh, well, there
wasn't a black community to get oppressed, that's because there
are places like Oregon where black people were specifically not
allowed to go there for ye for a very long time.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, oh no, we're not racist, says everyone in Portland
about that anyway.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
So do you know what else sucks, Josh? Besides our country?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I mean, there are lots of things. We could go
on for days. Lots of things are broken.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, but but what else sucks, Adam, I'm going to
say this episode of Law and Order SVU that we
got to watch this week, and that we'll get to
get to watch next week.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Drop two episodes about yeah So. This week's episode, which
Adam and I clearly both love, is season nineteen, episode
twenty three, the penultimate episode of season nineteen, part of
a two parter. This one is called remember Me after

(06:31):
an obligatory Live Noah cold open where Baby Dough asks
about Grandma Sheila, who everyone prayed was out of the picture,
to the cold, indifferent God who clearly hates us all
and o pair named Lordis in a sleek black dress
descends the stairs to a family who rightfully tells her
she's a smoke show before they tell her to go

(06:52):
get her fuck on at the club because they're taking
the kids to Greenwich to hang with the grandparents like
the hot nanny. Finn and rollins out on the town,
but fins in his own personal country music hell while
Amanda's making fuck me eyes at some country bassist bobbing
around a rhythmically on the stage. Don't worry, though, SVU,
Faithful one cop is still manning the fort on a

(07:14):
Friday night, as Dominic Creesy sits at his desk telling
his sister Teresa that all the hot billionaires are taken
before a case centered around proffered penile foot massages on
the sea train. Waltz is in the door. Lordis eyes
a Latin honk across the club, asks him if he
remembers her, to which he replies, there ain't no way
I'd forget your hot ass. They go back to his place.

(07:37):
She pulls a gun, says now do you remember me,
and clocks him with the butt of the handgun. The
next morning, some rando walks into the precinct with a
phone he found in the club, playing a live feet
of Lordis, holding Miguel tied to a chair at gunpoint.
Lordis said that her captor's voice echoes in her nightmares,
and he says that's not possible because they've never met before. Tonight,

(07:58):
apparently Taru can't trace the IP of this feed because
it's being routed through the dark nut, but they pull
the billion address of the phone, which sends them running
off to the west village. She tries to tell him
that they met five years ago when she still had
hope and a future, and he says he was designing
software in Portland then, but she insists that he's the
one who burned and starred her roles. He chased down

(08:20):
the apartment on Bleeker, but no one is there. Luridas
tells Miguel that he deserves worse than death and that
he can get his ass ready for a hearty portion
of torture. After Miguel's neighbors say he's a solid dude,
but otherwise give the unit nothing to go on. They're
able to parse that the apartment in the video must
be Central Park West from the details in the video feed.

(08:41):
Then she walks onto the terrace. He pleas to the
camera for help, and a gunshot rings out false alarm.
Though she didn't kill herself, it was a starter pistol
for a race. She tells him she wouldn't let him
off that easily without a trial. He asks if she'll
let him go if he confesses to everything. Starts playing along,
but he won't cop to raping her because he says

(09:02):
he's never raped anyone. He then asserts that he has
connections with the police and that he can help her. Meanwhile,
police are pounding down every door with a balcony Near
the start of the race, an older dude, Jorge, keys
into the apartment just as she's starting to untie him,
and he ignores Miguel's warnings and gets brained for it
with the base of a trophy. Then Lordis sees that

(09:24):
Miguel keeps looking toward the camera, finds it and kills
the feed. Live an officer Montero or checking penthouses and
Lourtis gets the jump on Montero, and because this is
a Michael cheranucin episode, Live wanders in and ends up
in a standoff with weapons drawn. As the rest of
the unit leads the task force of police clearing CPW buildings.

(09:46):
Live agrees to drop her a weapon and acquiesce to
Lordis's demands, cuffing Montero to the showerhead and dragging poor
Jorge in there too. Lordis starts making demands, but Live
says she won't do anything if the gun's pointed at her,
so Lordis shoves back in Miguel's face. Liv says lord
has wanted a witness, so why doesn't she tell her
what happened? Lordis starts telling Live her story. Liv does

(10:09):
her whisper cop thing, telling Lordis. She believes her, then,
seemingly out of nowhere, starts screaming at Miguel when he
tries to talk, and telling her gun wielding nanny that
she wakes up in the middle of the night gasping
for airwin thinking of her own attacker, Lordis tells Miguel
to sing his favorite song, which, after she prompts him
as to what that song was, he does to appease her.
Miguel rightfully wonders just what in the fuck is going

(10:32):
on with the crazy cop before confessing to the crimes
of which he's been accused while under extreme duress. Finn
calls Live, who gives him enough to establish that she's
in trouble without alerting Lordis. Lordis burns Miguel's cheek with
a cigarette, then he leaves a puddle of long brewing
piss at his feet. Live says she's going to arrest
Miguel and testify against him. Lordis instructs Live to untie

(10:55):
him and then directs them to the terrace. Lordis says
Miguel caught her and her two friends when they tried
to escape as he was bringing them across a border,
and told her to choose which one he was going
to kill to teach them all a lesson, So he
needs to get up on the ledge and choose whether
to jump or get shot on the back of the head.
Liv says that if he dies, no one will know

(11:16):
what he did to her, and with prodding, gets Lourdis
to hand over the gun. The rest of the unit
races in after Lives diffused the situation, and Live tells
them to cuff both Lordis and Miguel. Liv says she
needs a minute, breathes heavily on the terrace, and we
get a Jesus Trannuchin. Can you write an episode without
Live getting into a hostage scenario Dick Wolf? But only

(11:39):
kind of because there is no dick Wolf and we're
shooting right onto the next fucking episode.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Uh huh. So forgive me. I wasn't listening, and I
I was looking up one little thing because I did
not take very good notes about this. Where did you
end it? Did you end it with Live on the
terrace or Live going downstairs on the street?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Heras, oh, yeah, that's that's clearly the act break. Okay,
so right, clearly the the episode break.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
But it didn't seem like there was a commercial break
there anyways.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
There would there would be if you were watching on USA.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
It doesn't really matter because nothing matters. But needless to say,
I felt honestly like this was a forty five minute
long cold open. The way that they treated it. Oh yeah, absolutely,
this is where credits roll basically right at the end
of that terrora scene.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
And yeah, it didn't really have the plot flesh out
nearly well enough to justify having an entire hour of
tele Oh God devote to this.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
No, okay, So let's talk about the guest star as
quick because we should move through this episode as quickly
as humanly possible.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I think, so. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
So, first off, we've got Genesis Rodriguez or an Ordez.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
She's from Miami. It's Jenni is Josh.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, but she's she's born to a Venezuelan actor and
singer and a Cuban model, so it's probably an Athis. Yeah, anyway,
whatever's lords Vega.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
So she's actually a you know, whatever you want to
call her, LATINX, Latina, Hispanic, whatever you want to call her.
But and I want to put this delicately, I have
been to the enviarrins of Mexico City, and I know
generally speaking, what poor people, especially in the hills, look

(13:29):
like in those areas. They do not look like Miami
based actress models.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah. Her mom was a Cuban model, Luisa Carolina Perez Rodriguez,
and her father was Venezuelan actor and singer Luis or sorry,
Jose Luis Rodriguez.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
She got her start in Telemundo novelas Prisioneira Dam Chocolatte
and Donia Barbara. Then she starred in films Cassademi, Padre,
The Welfare all comedy Man on leg Hours, Tusk, Delirium,
and Centigrade. She was main cast in Time After Time,

(14:06):
the Fugitive TV series, and season three of The Umbrella Academy,
which I think is upcoming. And then she was a
main voice cast in the New Shira Show and in
both Big Hero six and its subsequent TV series. She
also had a recurring role on Entourage. Then we've got
Carlos Miranda who's playing Miguel Lopez. He was main cast
in Vita, which I've talked about on the show before

(14:27):
I watched it. It's good. He's main cast in Vida
Anna and season five of Station nineteen, I worked like
a day on Vida Nice.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
He was also in like five episodes of Boss.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
He was in the last season of BOSH. That's what
I was going to say.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's what adamb, That's how I am.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
He's a street cop, right, isn't he under cover? Technically?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I think so, I don't really remember.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, but it's from this newest season of BOSH, that
final season of Bosh proper. He was also in Warrior
and The Blame Ring. Next up, we've got Eddie Hargate,
who's playing Officer Montero. These are his first two of
four and probably counting appearances as Ation Montero. He's obviously
Marishka's cousin. Mickey is his godfather, and uncle Bicky being

(15:10):
her father. Of course. He's also good friends with Milo Vintimilia.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh interesting.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, and then I've only got four more, thankfully. So
then we've got Robert Toronto who's playing NYPD Commands Center Leader.
He is in seven episodes of the original series and
one Criminal Intent. He's also in seven svus, including Juvenile,
where he's playing a different character, which we covered all
the way back in launch. My MAT's in episode five.

(15:38):
Who's the perfect victim for a ninety pound tower perp.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I got to tell you that he looks so much
like somebody that he is not, and I can't place it.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, somebody else too, and I couldn't, but he's not
not that guy, obviously. Brain melter here. Then we've got
Chris Beatam who's playing Alan Buckley, the father of the family,
which she is the nanny four. He was Joe Templeton Junior,
one of the shithead frat boys in Consent, which we

(16:08):
covered back in Launch My Ben's in episode eleven, This
might be the rapist bar in New York City.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Everybody's coming back, double brain melter.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Then he was also in six Inside Amy Schumer's as
various characters, and he had recurring parts on jag pan
Am and One Tree Hill. Missus Stephanie Buckley, she was
played by Kelly Deadman. She has a recurring role in
Power Book three, Raising Canaan, which is I believe currently
airing on Stars. This is her fourth different character in SVU.

(16:40):
She was also in three Criminal Intents and three episodes
of the original series. Her real life husband was one
of the cops, Officer Powell I believe in Asunder so
we saw her real life husband there, so he was
one of the shthead cops buddies in the unit.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
I believe she also had a small role in one
of my least favorite cage films, which I want to
like so much, Snake Eyes.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Well, you know why you don't. It's go to Palma sucks.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
And then lastly, I got a shit onto Paulmer and
I guess. Lastly, we've got Gary Perez, who's playing Jorge Diaz.
He's in five episodes of Thirteen Reasons Why, four episodes
of Big Dogs, three episodes of OZ, three episodes of
the original series, and two episodes of The Sopranos.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Nice. Yeah, I don't have anybody else. Honestly, I only
looked up the IMDb for the second part, and there
really weren't that many characters in the first One's just
hardly anybody.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I looked up the cursory other people. But then you're
running into the issue where like we're in the season
nineteen episode. Yeah, a lot of these like.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
They don't have big careers, So notes Josh, Yeah, I
mean you probably have more extensive ones than I do
about this one. Persutely, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
So I feel like it's fairly safe to assume that
Noah isn't going to be read anymore Beatrix Potter at
bedtime if it just delicits questions about Grandma Sheila.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Right, I mean I would tell that kid never mention
her name again.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, but he apparently saw her that day. I went
back to the last episode and sort of fast forward
through it a little bit to see, like if maybe
maybe Noah goes to see her at the end or something,
but that's not there.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
So I feel like there'd be some sort of restraining order.
I think that you could, well, she's in a hospital.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
She like, she's obviously in the institution at this point.
She's fucking nuts.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, she's nuts and she's dangerous, and I think Live
would be completely justified in cutting off all contact. But
Season nineteen Live is not exactly the most rational actress.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
No. No, Season nineteen Live doesn't make any sense, all right, So,
you know, we go to the bullshit family stuff and
then Lourdis is at the nightclub. My first thought is
this nightclub seems awful.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
It seemed miserable, but it did kind of seem like
the place where I don't know, some like vaguely Euro
the Hot Nanny's might go, so it's not out of place.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Sure, that's the Hot Nanny Club of God. And then
we're treated to Finn and Rollins at this bar, and
Finn says he wishes he was playing video games with
Ken's adopted son, his grandson, Jayden. Then fucking Rollins is
making fuck Me eyes with a bassist from the Junior Brothers,
who are a Brooklyn based Americana band who I'm sure

(19:25):
you've seen by now, right.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh, yeah, hundred times.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, I'm assuming you go to like one of these
bands performed on SVU showcases, which they surely have at
bars all over New York.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
They have like a Tuesday night residency at Phil Hughes Bar,
the bar around the corner from me, which, which is are.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
You really around the corner from Phil Hughes's Bar.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
It's not Phil Hughes's Bar, but it is the Phil
Hughes Bar that's been around since nineteen fifty seven, so
it predates the Twins Pitcher. But I guess yes, picture first,
so that would make make sense.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
That makes a lot more sense.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Maybe he was named after the bar. I don't know.
I bet he was, Yeah, it doesn't look pleasant, but
not one hundred percent out of place really. So my
first notes start with the guy who shows up at
the squad room with the phone. I have so many
questions about this moment.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Well, okay, but before this we also have Careesy, Like,
right before this this whole scene, I have like two
kind of long notes on probably more notes than I
have on the reci the episode, because Careese is like
having a conversation with Teresa on the phone, and he's
telling her that there are no George Clooney looking billionaires
out there that are looking for a wife. And the
crazy thing.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Is which one's Teresa is Teresa, she's.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
The one who's trying to bag the billionaire.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
She's always she's a billionaire. Bay. Okay, great, I'm glad
you remember this.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, but the crazy thing about this is that she's
trying to bag a billionaire who looks like George Clooney
on the second go around because she's divorced and her
college aged daughter was in an episode during this season
as a rape victim.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, so like it seems like she should really like
rec figure her expectations.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Step back a minute.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, yeah, get a better lay of the land low down.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Maybe still still go after that paper, that's fine, but maybe.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Sure, sure, but except an eighty year old billionaire, I
mean better off anyway, you know, play out the string.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, just you being around. He won't make you sign
a pre nap. Maybe you can like write his kids
out of the will something like that. Sure, get a
good knives out situation going on.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, totally. But then we've got some weird shit going
on on the sea train because mister Smith was offering
to massage women's feet with his dong. Now, I got
a lot of questions here because there's a fair amount
of like pressure and strength that goes into a foot massage.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Okay, so maybe maybe he gets you know, especially hard.
Maybe he has chemical assistance.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
But I feel like his dick must be like a
knotty p of driftwood or something, yeah, to be able
to really work a foot. Maybe it's callous in a
weird way, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Maybe it's one of those like egg shaped weird ones
you know.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
So now, yeah, yeah it could be that.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, it's it's more like a pressure point kind of
thing going on.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Maybe there's like a weird curvature that really that really
helps him.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
It goes right into the arch, just slides right in there.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah. Yeah, but needless to say, there's got to be
something weird going on with his dick if this is
what he does, because it really doesn't seem like you
could massage feet very well with a dick.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I mean, one thing you can say about the chernouchin
years is at least they kept the reverence.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Wildly inappropriate bullshit.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, they kept that going.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, or they brought it back, I guess. Then we
get to the fucking club and it's the do you
remember me? And he fucking doesn't remember, and then the
now do you remember me? And you know, she pulls
a gun. We're gonna have to kind of tread lightly
because I don't think we should talk too much about
what happens in the next episode because it affects how
this one reads.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I mean, sure I can approach this from a blank slate,
which is she comes across as a complete lunatic to
range lunatic.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yes, no, absolutely, she seems completely deranged. Now, Okay, the
central premise of this episode is fundamentally flawed either way,
like it's theoretically a premise with promise I guess, but
either he doesn't know her, or he straight up forgot
that he fucking raped this very attractive woman while transporting

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her across the fucking country and got himself into this
mess when he tried to take her home. So either
way this is playing because it's got to be one
of those two ways. Yes, either way this is playing
out makes no fucking sense.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
So okay, so the theory of the crime makes no sense,
whatever crime is being committed.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Also, anything about his character makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
No, no, no, no, it continues to not make sense
into the next episode, so that's not really killing anything away.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Well into this Yeah, no, his character never makes sense.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
But also the thing I have the biggest problem with,
of course, is that auto unlock on a phone is
not a thing.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
The random guy with the shaggy hair did not just
pick up somebody's phone off the ground and auto unlock
it into an app that has a live feed, right,
It doesn't matter what the.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Live especially a phone with a live feed to a
dark net video feed that's like totally encrypted and you
can't trace.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
So this guy was going through every single button on
the phone seeing what everything was before he came to
this darknet encrypted feed and.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
The code to unlock the phone was just four ones.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
He said he engaged autolock.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, but we all know what really happened.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
But the next question I have is, Okay, so even
if we accept the fact that he unlocked this phone
and that he found this live feed, why would he
take it to SFU. You don't call nine one one
and say I've got a hostage situation that it just
found about, and we're going to send you to the
brape investigators. They probably send you to the hostage negotiators

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because there are people at NYPD that specialize in that,
and clearly live has lost her certification for that. If we, uh.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Wait, how do you figure? Okay? So after this, they
figure out where he lived by the billing records on
the phone. So they go to his apartment and it
seems kind of suspect. I mean, we later in the
second episode find out that the apartment actually is in
that suspect because he was getting it painted. But it
looks like it's not really lived in.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
It does look like you're like, oh, what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's like one of the only alarm bells that play out.
If you're looking at this from two points of view,
and you're looking at it from either she is crazy
and has taken this random guy hostage, or he is
gaslighting her and he did it and is trying to
like keep up appearances. This is kind of the only
thing that in this episode than the camera running in

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the apartment, is sort of the only other thing that
is like a strike against him in her favor.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, you're trying to be like the uh. I think
he was like a daim yo judge in Rashomon, right,
and you're trying to hear all of the evidence, assuming
that everybody is to their best knowledge, telling the truth. Yeah,
and then reconciling it at the end.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Do you think Liv's doing that at any point in
this episode, because I sure don't.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
No Lives certainly not doing that.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
No Live, I.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Have to say that I worry about Lives drinking in
this episode. I see her take it like at least
one or two SIPs of red wine, and the way
she's playing the character.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Oh, she seems drunk.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
She seems like sauce. Yeah. Throughout.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Some of it could be exhaustion, like one of the
dopamine rush and the crash afterwards, or not dopamine, but
the adrenaline Russian the crash afterwards would.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Giving everybody involved in the creation of this episode a
lot of credit. If you're so, they go to his apartment, Yeah,
but then you're gonna have to fill me back in
how they figured out that this was in the seventies
on Central Park West, because that the gunshot. It was
the gun shot.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Okay, Okay, Now he can't possibly know that the police
are watching as he's looking into the camera. As Miguel
is looking into the camera, there's no way he can
know they're watching.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Who does he think is watching? Who is watching the
fucking camera? Josh, this is I know that it's never answered.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
The best case scenario for him is that some dark
entity watching swoops in to save him. But if that's
the case, why would he continue to play like nothing
has ever happened between the two of them, like he
never met or and he couldn't have done it. Why
is he playing that.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Card exactly like the cousins from Breaking Bad are going
to show up at any moment in Shopper into a
thousand pieces, Like, yeah, those are the only people who
would conceivably be watching this.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
My only other explanation for it is like Okay, well,
this is some fucked up sex dungeon. That's the only
other thing that it could really be. Because there is
a camera feed that seems like if the feed is
on the dark not just some fucking normal app yeah,
then it seems like something untoward is going on here.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Okay, maybe, but maybe I don't feel like the writers
or actors in this have any idea what the dark
net is, at least not enough to tip now to
opine on it.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
And they should because it's twenty fucking eighteen.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
But Josh, nobody puts the rape dungeon in the middle
of their living room. The rape dungeon doesn't go next.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Well, I was thinking that the bathroom would probably be
the place where all the fucked up shit goes on
if that's the scenario that's playing.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
App Okay, maybe that this is a second apartment that
is solely for the purpose of rape dungeon, So like
his normal life goes on at his other fancy apartment.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
And I mean, maybe it gets darker and it's like
snuff films and shit, but like it doesn't. Just nothing
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
But you have a better camera set up than that.
I'm sorry, but that camera is yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Absolutely, that's a terrible angle. If you're using that camera
for pornographic purposes, you're getting nothing.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
And also, i'll tell you because you've done the research
on this, because there's baby monitored No, because baby research. Sure,
excuse me, but if you're broadcasting over any fucking feed,
it's not over the dark web, and you can be traced.
Any of that shit that you can broadcast to anywhere

(29:17):
else somebody can hack into and they make it. They
really try to scare parents about this. So unless you
have a very closed circuit that's only a short distance
over a radio wave, it's not secure. And even that's
not secure, it's just only not secure over a very
short distance.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Now they figure out where this has to have been
because of the starter pistol going off. From what they say,
there's a ten k and the pistol goes off at
two pm on a Friday.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
That's not when ten ks take place.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
My thoughts exactly. They generally try to run distance races
in the morning because optimal performance occurs at temperatures between
forty four and fifty nine degrees. It was seventy two
degrees at two pm on the eleventh of May.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
But also Josh as a distance runner. I think both
of us have run in distance events.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, it was like twenty five thousand years ago, but
yes I did used to run.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, but the assholes that run in these races, they're
go getters. Those things start at seven.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
You know, when they don't start.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
They don't start at two Friday. They don't start on
a Friday ever. No, they have never started a Friday.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Saturday, and Sunday. These people work, or.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
On Monday when it's a fucking holiday. Yes, that's when happens.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
That's it. You're only getting these on holidays and weekends.
It's not at fucking two pm on a Friday afternoon.
Like this is basic ass shit. It seems insane to
me that not a single person in the writer's room
knew that road races don't happen in one the after
fucking noon and two on a goddamn weekday on a

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normal like in a normal week.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
But also, the whole for this episode is some shaggy
here dipshit walks into the station, we picked.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Up a phone.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
That's the episode. If he doesn't walk in, or he
walks into a frink squad episode.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I wish that had never happened. Can we retcon this
to where that dim shit doesn't walk in?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
All right?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
So I have to say that Miguel is super convincing.
He's either a gaslighting pro like sociopathic levels of manipulation,
or he didn't do it, because that's absolutely the way
this played to both of us. It wasn't just me
because when I was rewatching, I was like looking to
kind of like figure out, Okay, was I seeing things wrong?
And I don't.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I don't, no, no, no, He's playing it like he
is a computer six months ago and went to Gonzaga,
even though nobody actually goes to Gonzaga. It's just a
fake school with basketball scholarships or so.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I think it's actually a school. But so then he
he actually convinces her to start untying him, and then
Jorge Diaz wanders in. And my question here is if
he is a cartel dude and and like he's in
on it, like he's in on human trafficking. He also
doesn't make any decisions that makes sense. He is told

(32:05):
when the keys turn in the door to get the
fuck out and call the police. He wanders in fucking
completely oblivious, oh, completely, like doesn't listen to a fucking word,
Miguel says, wanders in dragon his fucking dumb, wheelly suitcase
and then gets clocked in the fucking back of the head.
And I also don't know how she got to that

(32:25):
angle either to be able to like sneak up behind him,
because she was kneeling at Miguel's feet ready to untie him.
And then the keys turn, and so it's like, wait,
how did she get to a spot behind the door
in the time from Jorge putting a key in the door,
her hearing it. Nothing, nothing makes sense.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
She was also worrying about five inch heels all night.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
No, no, she was barefoot at this point.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh, she finally is barefoot at this point, but.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Most yeah, she's barefoot. It was at the club she
was wearing the heels, but she was. She was barefoot
in the in the apartment for most of it.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
No very for the for what seemed like an excrucion,
she eatingly long, like I don't know, half an hour
of her just screaming at Miguel and crying. She was
still wearing the shoes. They did not look comfortable.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
By this point. I'm almost positive she is not wearing shit.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I no one lived, was there she took him off?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, but yeah, she definitely had him off then. But
maybe I'm maybe I'm misplaced. But still nothing makes sense.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Dias is supposed to be a hardened criminal mastermind, right,
that's what.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Well, we don't know that.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
We don't know, you don't know it. Yeah, but still
like that's that's at least one of.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
The theories who he is that it doesn't make any sense, Like, oh,
Jesus fucking Christ.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I mean, he looks like a guy who's like on
a cruise ship alone or something, and he went to
the Thomas Kincaid art sale at the cruise ship. That's
what he looks like. He has no situational.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Awareness, which if he were a cartel member, you'd think
he might. Yeah, you'd think if he made it to
what like his late fifties maybe sixties.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
But josh, he not only made it to those late
fifties or sixties, he made it to Central Park West
m M Patio.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Sure that's not a terrorists. He's got a fucking terrorist
at his apartment.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, he's like fucking String and Avon when they're on
top of the world. If they succeeded yeah, but you
know when they're in there, well.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
No, when they go to Strings apartment, I guess.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
When they go to Strings apartment and they're talking and
Avon's out of the joint.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
It's far less tasteful than String's apartments, Strings apartment. When
McNulty is sitting in Stringers apartment, Yeah, it's a class.
I don't even fucking know who the fuck was I investigating, Like,
who is this? Uh?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Anyways, back to.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
The then Live wanders into yet another fucking standoff hostage situation.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Obviously, we know there's this whole set of their checking rooms.
There's no way that it's not going to be lived
knocking on the door. We know that from the get go. Obviously,
I just don't think that she's doing a very good
job at being a police officer through this, because.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
It would make you think that, well that was me
being facetious. She is terrible. Now. I love that Miguel
having two sisters, like he's using that as the reason
that he could never have raped OWT.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I know, I know no rapers have ever had sisters
or mother.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Rapers can't have sisters.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
They've never had sisters.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, they've never had mothers either. That's true. So then okay,
it felt like liv was just bonding with her, Like
when you're watching it the first time, dude, it feels
like she's just playing her kind.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Of that's exactly what I thought.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
And then she's not, and you're like, what the fuck
is going on here? Like she starts doing the vic
whispering bullshit that at least during the Chernouchian years feels
like it's complete self parody, and then she just turns
and starts screaming at Miguel and you're like, wait, this
feels real. I think she might actually be buying this bullshit.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
No to me, I felt like, oh, she's just disarming
Lordis and she's.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Absolutely what I thought she was doing.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
But then no, yeah, you're absolutely right. To me. It
was like kind of the end of season two of
Twin Peaks when fucking Colin MacLaughlin gets infected with the
Spirit of Bob and all of a sudden Lordis isn't
the crazy one anymore, or it's fucking live and live
it Like her eyes are like bleeding basically, and is
losing her mind.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, she's losing her fucking mind. Like, I mean, the
only way any of this episode works is if you
don't stop at all and think about the massive, massive bottles.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
That just literally, I mean it's like it's like you're
breaking your legs stepping through these pottles.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
In this goddamn it. I mean, you're like you're like
falling into the goddamn Grand Canyon. Like the second time through,
it's clear that they've just built the skyscraper on quicksand,
and it's just kinda fucking disappeared.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, like how I mean, what drugs were they doing
in this writing room where they were like, no, this
is gold the live feed, we're going with the live feed.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Well, they had the cooler of greenies in the in
the in the rider's room. You know, they're they're kicking it.
They're kicking it sixties baseball style.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's not cheating if it doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Right, Yeah, So, so then her attacker sang La Bamba
while he raped her, getting him to sing the most
famous Spanish language rock song in the world. Isn't really
that telling after prompting him to do so, but.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
It's also it's the most famous Spanish language rock song
in English speaking America, right, And also the names of
everybody really upset me. Right, So you've got like Miguel
Lopez whatever, that's that's a real name, but it's also
like probably one of the most common ten names in
the Western Hemisphere. Lordis is a is a real name,

(37:27):
but it also is Lordis to me, is the name
of a seventeen yetfielder. Yeah, a seven year old Cuban woman.
That's Lordis. I know, one of those. I'm sorry, but
her friends Lucita just means little Lucy or little Lucia.
It's possible. Estella it is not a Spanish name, it's

(37:48):
not Estella is a Greek name, and I highly doubt
that a rural Mexican woman would have that name. Yeah,
but I don't doubt for it's that the true nurchant
writer's room would just be like, yeah, sure, I stell it.
That sounds like, okay, who gives.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
A fucking dude, Yeah, let's keep going. No one's paying
any attention, right, We're in season nineteen, like we can
just do whatever we want and it doesn't need to
make sense.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
It's fucking shocking.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
So then Finn calls Live and figures out, you know,
Live feeds him just enough to whatever. Then he's like
he tells Taru to start tracing live cell. I'm like, motherfucker,
look at the board over there, you've got three buildings left. Like,
you don't need to. You don't need to run a
trace on that cell. It's not gonna get you any closer. Yeah,
it's not going to tell you that it's in this
building or the building right next to it. It'll get close,

(38:36):
it'll be like that general vicinity. But I don't think
you're gonna be able to triangulate so perfectly that you
can tell any better than the goddamn three buildings right
over here on CPW that are clearly like, okay, it's
one of these three, because they've already eliminated all but
three of the buildings at this point.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
All of those buildings have door. Men, you just go, hey,
was a drunk, crazed police lieutenant uh here five minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
And pretty much everything that happens after this is just
fucking stupid. Like, the only note I have left is
even if liv believes this confession that Lord just gets
from Miguel, it means absolutely nothing, because a confession under
duress is not going to be admissible in court.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I watched it, man, and to me. There was nothing
about his acting that screamed, oh he's hiding the real
truth exactly. It was like, oh, he's pissing himself because
she seems fucking crazy and she's pointing a gun at
his head or making him nearly jump off of a
twenty story building.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
And like, we can't really talk about this until the next.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Eli se I gotta say that one thing I'm glad about,
and I've seen it a few times here, but I'm
glad that the sweded loafer no socks look for going
out is kind of going out of style because it's gross.
It's disgusting, make me want to vomit on his feet.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, it's as disgusting as Marcia gay Harden pouring fucking
five pounds of ketchup on her steak in the last episode.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Do we have anything else to talk about here? Can
we rank this? Fucking rank it? Yeah? All right, let
me get to the right page. So, of course, folks,
we rank these episodes, and uh, you know, we have
four criteria that we rank on. That's the quality, the
guess how problematic it was, and the depth and breadth

(40:22):
of lives ruined. We're coming up with a composite score
so that we can slot it in next to all
the other episodes that we've watched.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Right where it belongs.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
I really don't know how this one gets a score
that's that's very good. I really don't know how it
gets there.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
We're not going to have to do much tweaking either.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
So quality is an obvious one. One obvious one. It's
not one with a bullet not a question guess. I
would also say one, right, is there anything redeemable about
the guests in the first episode? The whole episode rests
on their performances, And I would say that I.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Don't think it's the performance that are bad necessary and like,
I think he's actually I think Miguel's actually good.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Mcguel's good. However, Okay, you're.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Right, nothing makes sense, But it's not the it's not
a guest fault.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
It's not his fault.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
No, it's not his fault, and it's not Genesis Rodriguez's fault.
The fault lies in nothing making sense, Like there's no
way to make sense of anything that's going on here
if you were the actor, and I.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Just feel bad for them, right, because I mean Genesis
Rodriguez probably it probably she would have been great, if
this may be great, she would have been fine if
this were one episode instead of two. But so much
of it is her crying and screaming at him, and
it's hard to watch, and not in that like good
uncomfortable way, in the bad uncomfortable way. No, So give

(41:42):
me a number, Josh, Is this a two? Then? Are
you saying?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I think it's a two? It's still really bad. I
don't want to give it any more than a two
because I don't want it to end up any higher.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
But really, the whole thing is the guests, and it
is not their fault, and.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah, it's not their fault, but it's not good. And
it's not good because it's relying on the guess it's
a two only because they couldn't do anything about this,
making me.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
And of course, the only other actor in this with
any amount of lines is Mriska Hargate, who is much
worse than either of the two guest actors, much.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
More like if you could go below one on this
one for quality, where her performance is a strike against
this episode, it is you would go below a one.
This is abysmal, and she's like straight up awful.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
It's bad it's real bad. I don't know how. I
don't know how they went into post production with this.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Can you imagine having to have been the editor on
this episode, Jesus christ Man having to just fucking stew
in this dog shit for as long as I.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Mean, hopefully Trus had fully pumped him full of whatever,
you know, ketamine, you know, like cow testoster.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
And I mean they'd have to be on acid.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
It felt like.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
It's just he's just sucking down touring.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
This is problematic, it is, but it's mostly problematic because
we've were forced to watch it.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah, it's so poorly consecuted that that yeah, poorly conceived
and executed that you're just like, okay, the fundamental things
that it's saying.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Let's step up back for a moment. Hargate herself got paid,
so this is a two parter. She got paid like
a million dollars for this, right, I don't know when
that big contract kicked in.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, plus back out.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
So that's just TARGETA. That doesn't include Iced Tea, who
also gets paid reasonably. Well I imagine CORESI and Rollins
are getting decent paychecks.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Rollins has been on you know
this is sixties.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Fucking Simon Winchester, Well he probably is lower rate, but whatever,
it doesn't matter. Still the Philip Sorry, Simon Winchester, I
think the guy who wrote the book about Krakatoa.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
He is.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, so a production in New York City has to
not be cheap to do well.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
This one was probably cheap. The first part was because
they shot it in one location almost entirely too.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
They at least two setups, but it was all in studio.
They were not outside at all. You're right, Okay. Anyways,
what I'm saying is this cost millions of dollars to make,
and this is what they came. This is what they
brought to the network after spending millions of dollars. It
blows my mind and I want to get some of that.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
And I mean, maybe Trnuchin's on a two year show
running deal, but it seems fucking insane to me that
they would have given him another season. We've seen what
four or five episodes from season nineteen, and every single
one of them has been bad.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Hey, so Mike, hit us up. I don't know what
pots you're stirring these days. So if you can get
some of that sweet NBC cash to make another series, Josh,
and I can come up with better material than this.
I could guarantee you that I can carry you that.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, I got I've got fucking series after series that
I could come up with that would play better than this.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
So can we give this a one for problematic because it's.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Because it's just so bad that it doesn't matter. And
the only problematic thing that's fun is the fucking subway
dick foot massage.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Oh, the subway dick foot massage might bring it to
it too, because that was kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, it was funny. It was straight up like.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
You feel like the first half was more enjoyable in
certain ways than the second half. But we'll get to
that in a second.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, you're really getting ahead of ourselves here.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
The depth and breadth of Lives ruined at the point
that we leave this episode.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, everyone's fine. I mean one guy's going to the hospital.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
That one guy's got brained. Miguel Lopez, he's not. Lopez
got burned and pissed himself.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Pissed his loafers. His loafers are bit pissed. Now.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah, liv has busted a few blood vessels in her eyes,
but that's it. So this is a one, right, Yeah, yeah, great,
So I think we're all agreed that this deservedly gets
a one point five, which let's see.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Where it rains second lowest I believe after a Sunday.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Right, should be pretty close to that. Oh, it's tied
with a Sunderer because asunder got a three for problematic.
So yeah, awesome. I think it's deservedly So all right,
so shall we? Well we already know what the next
one is. No rolling required.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Next episode is, and you may have already watched this
because if you're watching it, just kicking right into it.
So next week we will be talking about remember me Too?
And I was hoping when I saw the title originally
that maybe it was going to be a me Too episode,
because that's the first thing we got. No, it's not that.
In the conclusion of a two part season finale, Lieutenant

(46:36):
Benson suspicions about a kidnapping victim undercover a dangerous criminal
network prepared to silence anyone who gets in their way,
and I would pause it that maybe nothing about her
suspicions do that anyway, Yeah, that's that's what we're watching
next week. If you really like hearing us talk about

(46:56):
episodes that we didn't like of this show, Well, hold
on to your butt, because you're going to get more.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
If you guys can believe it. This one we've kind
of held back because we didn't want to give away
the goose. But next week, yep, it doesn't get any better.
It doesn't get better.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
No, no, no, and any of the sense that you
maybe thought it might have been able to make eventually,
don't hold your breath.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
All right, guys, So until then, let's just munch our
bedsonce okay, get yeah, you know, rate review the podcast, Yeah,
all that stuff. But remember the good times, you know,
like Chris Christopherson, remember the good times.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, when you were a Rhodes scholar and played college
football and got too cocky when you were shooting semi
tough and told all these football players that you used
to play football in college and then got let the
fuck up because Chris Kerstofferson did all that.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I get your song picked up by Al Green an
album cover where he's wearing probably the greatest outfit of
all time. Yeah, all right, until then, guys, we'll we'll
see ya.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Munch the fuck out of our bensons.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Just much our bensons. Remember, guys, this is a great
television show. And sometimes even in the sunniest life, a
little rain must fall so it gets better hopefully.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, oh god, it's just such a fucking dark peace out.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
I realize it's Friday night. My social life is it's great.
Thanks for asking, Reesa. I gotta tell you.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
I don't know what you've been waiting for, but the
last time I checked, all the billionaires who look like George.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Clooney, they're taken, you know. Hey, I gotta go all right,
I love you.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Tell me I love it too. All right, what do
you got?

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Picked up mister Smith here on the seat train offering
a massage women's feet with his penis.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
That's great, Come on.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Picked up mister Smith here on the sea train, offered
a massage women's feet with his penis, with his penis,
with his penis, with his penis, with his penies, with
his penies, with his
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